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Welcome to the Teachers Need Teachers Podcasts, the podcast for teachers who don't want

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to just survive teaching, but actually
thrive. So, as promised, I

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have this episode that's taken me a
while to put together because there's so much

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that I need to say about my
past semester with the Modern Classroom Project.

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And for those of you that are
new and have no idea what that is,

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I'm going to link in the show
notes my previous episodes about the Modern

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Classroom Project so that you can know
what it's all about, or you can

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just listen right now to this and
you can learn about how I run this

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model. Really wanted to give you
guys an update on this because I have

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a lot to say, and it's
been definitely a work in progress, and

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the fact that I'm still doing it
should say a lot. Ever, face

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the frustration of planning a crucial lesson
and having to deliver it on a specific

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day, only to find out that
a significant number of students are absent or

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worse, despite a seemingly successful class, a significant portion of your students fail

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the assessment. Yeah, of course
that's happened to me. As educators navigating

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these challenges can be really daunting.
Reteaching risks boring the rest of the class,

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after school tutoring or lunch tutoring encroaches
on our personal time, and relying

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on students to just figure it out
independently really is a gamble. In this

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episode, I delve into a solution
that many teachers, including myself, have

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found to be transformative. By eliminating
traditional lectures. Not only have I revolutionized,

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and I really mean that, how
my students learn, but more importantly,

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I've positively impacted my own mental well
being. So today I'm going to

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share the six phases that transform my
teaching from stress to success, including insights

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into my lesson planning strategies, how
I manage the classroom, and more importantly,

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the results stemming from this really remarkable
technique. As I've mentioned in three

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previous episodes, this year, I
transitioned to what is called the Modern Classroom

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Project, and I'll go ahead and
link that so that you guys can catch

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up on those episodes. So basically, it's like a flipped model where students

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are getting the information the learning via
video and they're also practicing in class with

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extra help from me, And it's
just very much self pace. When I

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decided to adopt this model, it
actually took me a long time, so

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I had to reframe the way that
I saw teaching and how I saw the

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curriculum in general. So after learning
about this model, I actually spent a

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couple of weeks just thinking and staring
at past classes in Google Classroom, looking

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through all of my teaching materials that
I regularly use, and trying to get

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an idea of how this was going
to work because my students wouldn't have me

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carrying them along and teaching them in
real time the lessons, and that was

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just a really huge paradigm shift for
me because I'm just used to doing that

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whole stage on the stage thing that
a lot of have learned and probably a

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lot of us still use. And
also, as I was learning about this

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model through actual free courses through the
Modern Classroom project, I had to let

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go of my pessimism and skepticism and
just that nagging feeling in my mind that

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was like, well, this isn't
going to work, well, how is

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that going to work? And coming
up with all these reasons why it would

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be a bad idea to do this
because I've always wanted to do something like

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this, and so I had to
think about pacing from a different way.

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But I had to structure the units
and the lessons so that it could still

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be self paced for the students and
ensure that they were still learning. And

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it doesn't seem obvious that that would
work, because maybe students are getting the

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videos but they're not actually absorbing the
information. But at the same time,

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that could also be happening when you're
giving lecture. One of the nice aspects

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of this model is that if students
didn't understand it the first time, or

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maybe they spaced out in the middle
of your lecture, they can actually rewind

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and go back and listen to it
again. I had to let go of

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that need for control by standing in
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that we are all moving at the
same pace at the same time, and

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really allowing myself to trust the students
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that was just the first phase.
The next phase was also thinking about assessment

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and what that would look like in
a self paced model. As I was

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learning more through their amazing Facebook group, and of course as I mentioned the

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free courses that they have, I
had to think about how am I going

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to find out if students are actually
learning, because it's one thing to just

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play a video, and it's another
to actually see if they absorbed or learned

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anything from that video. Traditionally,
I would have them just do a worksheet

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or work in groups or answer out
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that if they're all moving at a
different pace, So I had to rethink

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formative and even summative assessments. In
this model. I adopted what they call

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mastery checks, which are basically a
fancy word for formative assessments, but it's

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just a checkpoint along the way to
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student watch the video and try to
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practice associated with it and they actually
somewhat mastered it. Sometimes students wouldn't quite

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completely master it, but I could
tell that they knew enough to at least

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progress, and I knew that they
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I let them move on. But
it really serves two purposes, not only

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for me to know that they did
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also it's some accountability on part of
the students. So if they didn't actually

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pay attention to the video, then
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then they wouldn't be able to move
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beginning, I was creating so many
mastery checks because I just wanted to make

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sure that they really were doing what
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was creating more work for myself.
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I was a lot more thoughtful about
the mastery checks because I wanted to make

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sure that they really showed whether or
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the standard or skill that they needed
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So it's just kind of like when
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want students to learn, you can
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really need to know all of the
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So that's where I had to think
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useful and also how I wanted to
check these. I didn't necessarily want students

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to hand in work or submit work
online. I wanted something that was maybe

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a little bit easier and more manageable
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that would be in the form of
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if they didn't pass, and it
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they didn't pass it right away because
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and then retake the mastery check.
I also explored opportunities for meaningful practice and

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definitely embedding group work, because I
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the best when they can struggle through
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This would mean that I would have
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where students had to wait until everybody
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frustrating at times for the students,
but I wanted to make sure that they

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all had the prerequisite information before they
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my units, I would start out
with some kind of group activity where they

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would struggle together, and then they
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and all of the videos. So
the third phase was actually putting all of

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these ideas together and creating a streamline
planning process. It did take a couple

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of units for me to get over
the struggle of just like, what should

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a unit look like? But it
started to flow better because I did what

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most of us do, which is
work backwards. We think about the skill

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or the standard that we want them
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want them to learn how to write
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about all of the little mini skills
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in order to successfully write that.
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that's how I would plan those units, which is pretty typical. But the

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hard part is making sure that there
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that they do complete is meaningful.
What they also advocate is to have different

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types of learning opportunities based on what
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categories, must does, should do, and aspire to do. The must

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do is are self explanatory. These
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The should dos are additional learning opportunities
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that didn't quite understand it. For
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to write a race paragraph, I
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to write it, and then they
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students who didn't quite understand it the
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practice where I wrote a different race
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again without feeling like they were just
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first time maybe they didn't quite grasp
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it a little better, or just
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And then the last category is aspire
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activities. I've only done a few
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forge ahead, I didn't necessarily want
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could have probably created something like other
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they could watch, But this being
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decided to just stick with the mustus
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of times most of the lessons are
mustus if I'm being honest, and I'll

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probably embed more should dos in the
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terms of personalizing content for the students. But if they get to a mastery

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check and they realize that they didn't
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to the should does. They can
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eventually trained students to know what it
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they see fits in the next phase. After all this planning is creating the

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videos, and I'll be honest,
it's kind of a tie in terms of

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which took up the most time,
because planning does take a lot of time,

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and creating videos it can't take a
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not technologically savvy. You can use
videos that you find online, and I

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have used some of those, depending
on why I needed them. A lot

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of times it was just a screen
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or I would just use something like
an app on my iPad or a screen

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share on my computer and teach them
that way. I didn't put my face

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on any of these videos. I
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concept and you want to try to
keep the videos fairly short. They recommend

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no more than eight or nine minutes, and I did my best to stay

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within that limit in terms of my
workflow. After creating a video, there's

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a couple of different ways to do
this. Post it to YouTube publicly and

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save it in the playlist that you
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it as unlisted, and then I
upload it to an online software called ed

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puzzle, and you may have heard
of this, And what's great about ed

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puzzle is that you can embed questions
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they are paying attention and not just
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It's really great and yes I had
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It's about thirteen fourteen dollars a month
for that, and it's not necessary to

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use it. I just found it
to be really useful in terms of making

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sure and keeping track of who is
watching the videos. I know that a

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lot of teachers like this option,
so again it's not necessary. And from

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there I sign it through Google Classroom. And one thing about Google Classroom that

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I just found out about is that
they are working on a function where you

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can upload videos to Google Classroom from
YouTube and within that you can embed questions.

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Now at the time of this video, if it's working, then that

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could completely bypass the need for the
ED Puzzle, So that could be really

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cool if you want to explore that
route. So I use Google Classroom as

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my learning management system and that's how
I disseminate all of the units and all

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of the lessons, and of course
I let them know about the videos and

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an effort for me to not have
to recreate all of these units in Google

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Classroom year after year. I did
create a master course that just kind of

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stays there, and I just copy
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different class periods that I have.
So here's what this looks like in terms

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of disseminating the units. I'll create
the units in Google Classroom, and what's

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great is that you can categorize it
by units, and then I will post

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all of the lessons in there.
Let's say that there's seven lessons less than

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one point one, one point two, one point three, something like that.

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I will schedule that to go out
all at once so that students can

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move along as necessary. If there's
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I will upload it as well,
so everything just comes out all at

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once, so that students can access
the materials that they need as they are

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progressing through the unit. So Google
Classroom is where students will get that information,

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and then they'll have to go to
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And this is really important because for
me, they're going to two different places,

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so I do leave instructions for them
in terms of where they're supposed to

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get the lesson or what it is
that they're supposed to do next. So

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let's say that they're absent, they
can go into Google classroom and see what

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the next part of the unit is, and then they can just keep moving

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along if they want to try to
keep up or catch up later on.

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One of the ways that the modern
classroom project ensures that students stay organized and

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on track is to have some kind
of a personal tracker. So I create

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this where all of the lessons are
laid out, and then also for me,

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I also put instructions on what it
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So it'll say, go to Google
classroom and download one point three and open

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it in Notability, which is the
app that they use to annotate on their

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iPads. And then the next point
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open up the video one point three
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something like that. So it's very
detailed in terms of what it is that

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they're supposed to do and where they're
supposed to go. And again this makes

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it so that as they're moving through
the lessons, they can just look on

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that tracker and see what it is
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this tracker goes out when I disseminate
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So the next phase was figuring out
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with this model, because that was
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very different than before. It's not
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for five periods in a row.
It was going to be the students getting

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the lessons on video. Then I
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during this time and how am I
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the students who are highly unmotivated.
I had no clue what this was going

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to look like. So after some
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does look like. At the beginning
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up with the students, and this
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ongoing. It's something that you have
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bit at a time if you really
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some kind of grammar or sentence correction
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you like to do. We still
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and that still allows me to engage
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know me and I get to build
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and we go through the entire unit
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they going to be responsible for needing
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learning, because that's what goes in
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them where they need to finish for
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goals in terms of how far we
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say, Okay, by the end
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a really good goal would be to
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really good goal it would be to
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depends on where we left off.
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realistic goal in terms of where it
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end of the class period and then
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of the year, I had students
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videos, or they could bring headphones, and not all of them bring those

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consistently, as you can imagine,
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that I got from the school,
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I'll give them a sanitizing white to
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The students are working on the lesson, they're watching the video, they're doing

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the practice, and I'm circulating,
and it's really a amazing to be able

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to walk around and watch them work. It's something that when you are lecturing,

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you don't have the privilege of being
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were walking around while you're lecturing,
that could also be a little bit confusing

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for the students because they're trying to
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lesson, and I get to look over

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their shoulder, and I get to
catch the students who are doing nothing,

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or I get to catch the students
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the students who seem to have skipped
too far ahead and they're not really doing

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the practice correctly. I just really
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and I get to know my students
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preparedness, and it's just been really
eye opening. So you walk around the

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classroom and if you see a bunch
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confused or stuck on the same spot, you can pull those students aside and

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then you can have a group lesson
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of reiterate or clarify things for them. It works out really well. The

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modern classroom project model really advocates for
having a public facing tracker where you display

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it on the board, like who's
on what lesson? And I'm not at

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that point. I really just prefer
to walk around and just see who's doing

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what and help them as I see
fit. I don't really want to keep

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track of them that way, although
a lot of teachers have had a lot

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of success with that. One of
the benefits of having that kind of a

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tracker is that if students are on
the same lesson, then they can go

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and sit by that person and work
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I'm just not quite there yet,
Maybe we'll try that next school year.

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One thing that doesn't work with this
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students work. I learned this the
hard way because what happens is some of

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the students will just do something else
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to them, or they'll get distracted, or they'll become unmotivated. It's just

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as if they were doing regular work
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They just there's something about circulating around
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what they wrote down, saying good
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did, and maybe not the entire
time that you're walking around. I will

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just sit sometimes and just watch them
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or look for someone who decides to
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obvious that they're not paying attention,
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But I highly suggest that you don't
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your students. It's more a way
of allowing them to move at a pace

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that works best for them. So
the sixth phase of this was thinking about

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how all of these parts move together, especially when it comes to classroom management.

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Because here's a thing. Just because
students are allowed to be self paced,

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it doesn't mean that they're working.
In fact, there are a lot

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of times when students aren't working.
If a student is already unmotivated in every

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single class, it doesn't mean they're
going to be more motivated in yours.

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This does increase the chances of them
at least learning some of the material,

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because if they decide that they're going
to check out for ten minutes, it's

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not ten minutes during your lecture,
it's just ten minutes of class time,

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and then you can redirect them and
then you can have them still get the

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lessons. So it's beautiful that way. And are students going to talk when

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they're not supposed to? Yes,
it doesn't solve all classroom management problems.

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However, it does mean that when
one student is being disruptive, you don't

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have to stop the lesson to deal
with them. The other students who aren't

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being disruptive get to keep learning and
it's great. And as I mentioned with

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the worm up, it doesn't mean
that you never get to have class discussions

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or that you can't have things like
socratic seminars or group work. You can

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absolutely still do that, but again, the learning part, the part where

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you were teaching them the new concept
or reviewing the concept, it gets to

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happen on their own time, and
it gets to happen whether or not they're

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in school or at home or out
of town. So rethinking your role while

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the learning is happening while you're not
lecturing it really does have an effect on

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classroom management because again, you can
really be present, you are walking around,

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You are catching all the little things
that maybe you wouldn't be able to

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catch, or that the students would
more likely get away with or try to

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attempt because of proximity to them,
because you're at the front of the room

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and they're over to the side or
the back. You being able to circulate

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around just really has a huge effect
on the number of off task behaviors that

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happen. So let's discuss the results
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it's a great model, but is
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I decided to look at my students
writing from last year as well as test

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scores, and here's something that kind
of surprised me. Nothing changed the scores

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weren't better, The scoolors weren't worse. The writing wasn't better or worse either.

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Now does that mean that it didn't
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shows me that it does work.
I'm still delivering the same quality of lesson,

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it's just via video. And if
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with this model because the students were
able to go back and learn the material

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and complete the assignment compared to being
absent and me somehow figuring out how to

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catch them up with a concept that
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their scores didn't go up, but
they also didn't go down, which I

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think is really significant considering that I
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room lecturing them. And this was
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imagine, this model is amazing for
catching up students. I've had students who

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just miss all kinds of school for
whatever reason, and they can work on

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this when they're gone, and some
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just have to follow along the tracker. We'll ask me what are we doing

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when we're gone, which is really
silly to me, and I'll just tell

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them we are progressing through the unit
and they can just work on it if

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they want to, and some of
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work on it when they're gone,
that's fine too. They can catch up

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when they're in class. But one
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I have to teach them a major
concept, something that we're going to use

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all the time, like the race
paragraph, and they happen to be absent

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that day, or just having a
bad day and not focusing, or they're

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distracted or whatever, they can still
get that crucial lesson, and if they

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didn't understand the first time, they
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I had a student who was gone
all last week while we were writing

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a major essay. I was talking
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wow, he's been gone all week, And one of his group members

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said, yeah, But it's a
good thing that all the lessons are on

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video. So even my students recognize
the power and the value in having these

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lessons be online so that they don't
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of the frustrations that I have with
this model is that some students will deviate

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because they aren't following the lesson.
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they won't know what to do next, even though by now we're on

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thirteen units and they still ask me
what should I do next? Just because

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you have it all laid out,
it doesn't mean that students are going to

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be inherently organized. Also, some
students just want to fast forward through the

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lesson and skip it because they're like, oh, I already know how to

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do this, And you can set
that functionality in ed puzzle so that they

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can't skip ahead. But then it
can be frustrating if ED puzzle is glitching

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and it sends them to the beginning
and they were almost done with the lesson

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and now they have to watch it
again. That's a technology issue, but

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it has been frustrating for my students
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as much group work as we have
in the past, and I'm someone who

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really believes on the power of collaborative
work. It's been a little bit harder

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to embed that. But I just
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I have before, and it can
get a little bit overwhelming at times.

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When you have your students all over
the place in a unit, they tend

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to move together at a similar pace. But you'll have a few outliers,

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and sometimes it can get a little
bit overwhelming and frustrating to keep track of

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all of those students. But I
still find that it's valuable and worth it

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because the students that need to catch
up or the students that are falling behind,

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it benefits them so much I can't
reiterate it enough. Now, let's

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also talk about how this has been
on me. So it's a mixed bag.

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Number one, it's a lot of
work to have to create those videos.

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Not going to sugarcoat it, but
I only have to create the videos

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this year and reuse them from now
on. Yes, I will tweak a

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couple of videos that didn't quite work
out. I had a video where I

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did a screen recording and apparently it
stopped recording all of my movements and just

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kept recording the audio. And I
don't rewatch. Every single one of my

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video is not going to lie,
And so the students caught it, which

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is pretty comical because all of a
sudden, thirty hands shot up in the

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air saying you say that you're highlighting, but there's not actually any highlighting on

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the screen. So there are some
glitches and some videos that I'm going to

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have to record, but for the
most part these lessons are done. It's

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pretty awesome, but there's more work
in that aspect, and then also the

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planning part and the disseminating everything,
creating the tracker. All of that a

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lot of work, but I'm only
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in terms of my mental well being, I can tell you that during actual

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class time, I have so much
more relaxed. I am really loving getting

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to know my students, working with
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room, helping those students that struggle, and giving them so much more individualized

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time. It's just been so amazing
for the students, and I've had discussions

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with them and they love it.
There are a couple of students who do

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prefer the old school lecture style,
and that's fine, and we do have

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some moments like that, like when
we're doing grammar, but for the most

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part, the vast majority of my
students really wish that there are other teachers

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were doing this model. It's just
been great for me. I don't have

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the Sunday scaries anymore because everything is
planned out. I don't have to worry

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about what we're doing on Monday.
What are we doing Monday? We're picking

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So do I recommend that you do
this sure with one caveat if you are

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someone who is a newer teacher,
maybe not, only because you don't know

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yet what it is that you want
to do or that you need to do

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and you're still learning. And I
do see value in actually lecturing in front

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of the class when you're just starting
out, so that you can really learn

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about pacing and what works. I'm
worried that if you aren't used to teaching

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yet, then your lessons might go
by a little too fast or a little

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too slow, and until you kind
of get used to how to pace your

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lessons for students to truly grasp it, I feel like you might want to

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hold off on this. I also
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someone who has a curriculum. So
I know that a lot of you have

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a curriculum that you have to use, that you're forced to use, and

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you have to say certain things and
do certain things on certain days. And

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this model will actually work really well
with that because it's already planned out for

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you and you just have to go
along and create the videos and the lessons

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for it. But if you're someone
who's still creating your own curriculum because you

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were just told to teach, maybe
you were given a textbook and you just

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have to kind of wing it,
then you might want to take some time

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first to figure out your curriculum and
then the following year create the lessons.

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That's just my recommendation. I know
that with the Modern Classroom Project, they

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think that anyone can do this at
any time, and just from my experience

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and the struggles that I went through, I would definitely hold off if you

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fall into those two categories. However, you can also go in the Facebook

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group for the Modern Classroom Project,
and so many people are just willing to

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just give you their materials, to
give you their pacing guides and their trackers,

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and it's just so supportive of a
community that if you just want to

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kind of poke around and lurk and
see what other people are doing and maybe

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try it for like one or two
classes or two subjects. If you teach

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elementary, then you can do that. And I can tell you there are

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elementary teachers that are doing this.
So if you're skeptical as an elementary teacher.

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You just need to go to the
Modern Classroom Project website and they have

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a course for how those teachers do
that, and also go into the Facebook

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group to get additional help. So
I hope that all made sense. If

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it didn't, then you might want
to actually head over to the YouTube video

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of this because I do have screenshots
of things like my personal tracker and what

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my Google classroom looks like in terms
of how this is uploaded, and that

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way you can get more of a
visual in terms of how this works.

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That might help you if you just
want to try it out and just you

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know, even though at the time
of the recording it's March, it doesn't

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mean that it's too late to try
it out. You could try it out

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for just one upcoming unit and just
see how it goes. You can just

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play around with it, and that
way you know how to tweak it.

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And if you want to play with
it more this summer and develop it,

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then you have the time to do
that because you've had a chance to experience

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it. So let me know if
you're going to try this and if you

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have any questions or if you just
want to brainstorm with me. You can

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email me at kimat teachersnewteachers dot com
and if you have any episode suggestions,

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I would love to hear those because
I am starting to get a little bit

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of writer's block and I don't necessarily
know what it is that would be valuable

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to you, so please let me
know, and so be sure to email

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me and let me know any topics
that you'd like me to cover. Thanks

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for hanging out with me today,
you guys, and I will see you

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next time.
