1 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,879 Welcome back everyone to a new episode. If you were wrong with Molly Hemingway 2 00:00:18,879 --> 00:00:21,679 and David Harsani. Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the 3 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:26,440 show, please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. Molly, 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,800 how's it going. It's going all right? All right, how's it going 5 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,520 for you? David? It's okay. I'm very excited because it looks like 6 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,679 this week we're going to get another new Speaker of the House, possibly and 7 00:00:38,719 --> 00:00:47,280 that always gets me revved up. So I guess yesterday's Wednesday, and on 8 00:00:47,320 --> 00:01:02,359 Tuesday maybe it was just Massy and maybe another Congressman who joined Marjorie Taylor Green's 9 00:01:02,359 --> 00:01:07,040 efforts to replace Mike Johnson as Speaker of the House. Do I have that 10 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:12,120 right? I think? So. The problem is, well, listen, 11 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:15,599 I think the big problem is that, and I agree with this critique, 12 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,920 is that Johnson is just falling doing whatever Democrats want, especially when it comes 13 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:26,840 to the Ukrainian funding, tying it to Israeli funding, tying it maybe even 14 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:30,920 to border funding, which sounds exactly like the Senate bill that we had what 15 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:38,040 last month. Yeah, so I think everyone understands that Mike Johnson is in 16 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:42,120 a difficult position. It is an incredibly tiny majority for Republicans and one that 17 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:46,760 could slip away at any moment. So I think people get that, and 18 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:49,400 I think people are willing to cut some slack because of that. But having 19 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:57,040 said that, even with that acknowledgment, people are surprised by how poorly he's 20 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:01,280 handling that majority in terms of getting things that people want. And what I 21 00:02:01,319 --> 00:02:06,799 mean is, I think people understand that when Democrats control the Presidency and the 22 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:10,719 Senate, and that the Senate also has a small majority, but they basically 23 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:15,400 don't because Mitch McConnell, who's the Republican leader, pretty much agrees with the 24 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,520 Biden agenda on all sorts of things, that it would be hard to do 25 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,360 what Americans actually want. What Americans actually want, what they have conveyed repeatedly, 26 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:30,919 clearly, overwhelmingly, is that they would like the US Congress to do 27 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,439 something about our border. And they have even been pretty explicit about like, 28 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,319 we don't want this, we don't want anything else done until you get the 29 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:44,599 border done. And Johnson had kind of said some stuff a few weeks ago 30 00:02:44,719 --> 00:02:49,240 that he understood this and that the American people would not be trifled with on 31 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,560 this issue that they weren't going to be used to ramrod Ukraine war funding through 32 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,439 and then just a few weeks later that's precisely what he appears to be doing, 33 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:08,280 and I mean going to outrageous lengths to achieve the Biden McConnell Ukraine war 34 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:14,680 funding agenda, including like yesterday he said that he believed that the US was 35 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:19,599 at war, that he was a wartime leader, and that that meant he 36 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,560 had to screw over the American people on what they wanted and instead deliver Ukrainian 37 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:29,479 funding. I mean, it was a bizarre He gets a lot of praise, 38 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,039 Like a time I saw Matt Contnet, he was like, this guy 39 00:03:31,199 --> 00:03:35,120 is the best guy ever, you know, kind of thing on Special Report 40 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:40,560 last night. But among the American people who are not neo cons are affiliated 41 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:45,039 with the military industrial complex, it seems to be going. It seems to 42 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:49,759 be a bit of a disaster. Well, I will say this, I 43 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:52,639 don't think you have to be a neocon to want to support Ukraine, but 44 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:59,599 I will say this just as a cynical in a cynical political way, Johnson 45 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,080 could have should have separated these bills completely, make people vote on the Ukrainian 46 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:09,919 funding if they want make the Democrats vote against the Israeli funding, which they 47 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:14,719 would vote against if it wasn't tied fused in with the Ukrainian funding, and 48 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:17,199 then have a border bill and see what's the most important thing for Congress. 49 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:18,959 What are they going to vote, how are they going to vote, and 50 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:24,160 what's going to happen. But instead he's done exact he's literally taking the strategy 51 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,040 of the Democrats, who in the Senate hold all this together, are specifically 52 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:30,920 just for Ukrainian funding, the only thing they actually care about. Two things. 53 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:33,879 He actually is pretending to separate out the funding, even though it's a 54 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:41,079 complete pretend thing, because it will all be united in reconciliation and it's, 55 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,759 like you said, it's exactly what the Senate wants. Secondly, I don't 56 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:48,800 even entirely know what the word neocon means, but how would being a Ukraine 57 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:57,360 war supporter be outside of that? I think that neocons are interested in building 58 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,839 or exporting American democracy, having the US involved in oldest places. Now, 59 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:05,639 simply if you had you literally last week told me that Ukrainians were basically our 60 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,480 allies. So if you want to send them money through NATO or how however, 61 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,160 what yeah, last week I said ISRAELI, Israel was our ally, 62 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:17,000 It's a different situation than Ukraine. And you told me, well, well, 63 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:21,399 a stens or fundamentally we were allies of Ukraine as well because we had 64 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:28,959 been involved in there. Oh, I was critiquing our foreign policy there. 65 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,120 I don't actually think. In fact, what I was trying to make clear 66 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:39,720 was that the US government had sort of created and made Ukraine be a ass 67 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,399 It's had made it be a vassal state and had been controlling its domestic operations. 68 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:47,279 And I was saying that as a critique of what against what we should 69 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:53,879 have done, which was understand the very fraught situation there and keep Ukraine as 70 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,600 a as a neutral party in between NATO and Russia. Let me ask you 71 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,759 this question, is wanting to fund Israel does that make you a neokon? 72 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:08,879 No, I'm not completely clear on the difference, Like if you yeah, 73 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:14,720 that's what I'm not So one thing I would say is and I just said, 74 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,439 I don't love that term neocon for a variety of reasons, including that 75 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,360 I don't find the people to be conservative at all. So I don't like 76 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:26,600 that the con is in there because that's short for conservative. But when you're 77 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,120 looking at wars that are wise to engage in, I do understand what you're 78 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:38,240 saying that people could legitimately be arguing that they believe, you know, they 79 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:44,040 believe there's like some national interest in this, but not all wares are created 80 00:06:44,079 --> 00:06:48,000 equal, and the Ukrainian conflict is one where a lot of wise people have 81 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,959 kind of pointed out that the including like you hear this even on the floor 82 00:06:53,959 --> 00:06:58,079 of the Senate, that even with all of the funding that we've done, 83 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,279 the like massive amount of funding we've done for Ukraine, that the Russians have 84 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:08,360 gotten stronger in the meantime, that there is very little chance, there's no 85 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,160 chance of success really for the Ukrainians out you know, outside of like the 86 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:15,720 fever dreams of people who think that platitudes are the same as winning wars. 87 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:24,120 And you know, it's just it's it's it's a problematic situation there. So 88 00:07:24,439 --> 00:07:29,319 let's we don't need to debate Ukraine right now. Let's just talk about US 89 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,319 politics and how people view what's going on. I don't think Ukrainian funding is 90 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,720 as unpopular as a lot of maybe conservative you know, like hardcore conservatives believe. 91 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:44,120 But I do think that a lot of people, even normal people, 92 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,000 will say, why are we sending them money when we're not even taking care 93 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:49,759 of the border. So to me, this is a right. What you're 94 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,480 making a face? I mean what I'm saying, that's what That's what the 95 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:57,199 people who are critical say. They say, I think that, yes, 96 00:07:57,439 --> 00:08:01,160 the applight of the Ukrainians is bad, and in a perfect world where moneys 97 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:05,319 grew on lollipop trees, we would love to help out in every way possible. 98 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:09,439 But like you know, that's basically what they're saying is this is an 99 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,720 untenable situation. So my point is merely that if you have a if you're 100 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:16,800 Republicans and you aren't a minority, and you're not really going to get anything 101 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:20,079 done, the only thing you can get done is to put the Democrats in 102 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:24,279 a bad position, like symbolic votes that put them in tough spots, like 103 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,920 forcing them to vote on a vote down a border bill or like you know, 104 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:33,159 or forcing them to vote against Israel funding or stuff like that. So 105 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,759 if he can't even get that done, I think fundamentally we disagree that he's 106 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:39,759 not doing a good job. Now Here is my question. Unless you have 107 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:46,080 something to say about that, My question is should he be deposed as speaker 108 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,240 or is that a waste of time? I mean, I'm I was one 109 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,799 of the people who did not think that the previous speaker should have been ousted, 110 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:56,639 so by the way, I feel like that'd be a point has held 111 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,440 up well with time. Of course, it was just a fight over some 112 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,120 petty nonsense. It had no real strategic value to do that. There was 113 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,759 no I mean, I think that that was kind of people didn't like him, 114 00:09:07,799 --> 00:09:11,399 but that was kind of a backfilled excuse to get rid of him without 115 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:16,559 any plan. And this is where you are now. Well, I would 116 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:24,639 just say Kevin McCarthy is not particularly conservative ideologically, but he handled the very 117 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:30,000 small majority in a way that understood the reality of what he was dealing with. 118 00:09:30,039 --> 00:09:33,360 And he seemed to understand that he had to play well with both the 119 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:37,320 people who run DC and the voters who got him into him and all of 120 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,720 his conference into power. And that is what I don't see from Mike Johnson. 121 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:48,639 This is not the people understand when you only narrowly control one body in 122 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:52,639 DC, you're not going to win the world. But they do expect a 123 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,720 fight. And even if it were like you were saying, if you got 124 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,799 out there and he was like, hey, guys, guess what, We're 125 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,240 not doing a single thing until we fix the border. And if you don't 126 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,759 want to fix the border, that means we're not doing a single thing until 127 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:11,159 next year. And that may be, but this is how serious we are. 128 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,799 We actually care about the American people, We actually care about national sovereignty, 129 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,120 we actually care about you know, just like them in any way, 130 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:22,759 shape or form. And because of that, if you want anything done, 131 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:28,240 you are going to have to fix the border, and until then, we're 132 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:31,480 not doing a single other thing. If that were his posture, he might 133 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:35,679 not get the border done, but he might and he would have a big 134 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:43,440 win for his party. And I don't see why Republicans would why Republican voters 135 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,600 would see the difference between voting for a Democrat and a Republican right now, 136 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:52,039 I literally don't see the difference. I do well. I mean, in 137 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,919 this Congress, what can you point to like that they impeached my arcis? 138 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:00,559 But that's not how you view this sort of thing if Democrats were running it. 139 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:03,399 Listen again, I agree with what you said before that comment, if 140 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,399 Democrats ran things, you'd have one bill after the next. There's a counter 141 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,440 history here that would be much worse. At the very least, there are 142 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,720 a bulwark against other more terrible bills in the past. Well, I agree 143 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,879 with that, or even I actually do love the investigations that go on, 144 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,639 and I think it would be a disaster for hockeing Jeffries to be continuing to 145 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:28,720 use power to go against Americans like the Democrats did when they held the Congress 146 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:33,000 just a few years ago. I get all that. I'm just saying part 147 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:39,120 of being a leader is giving people reason to love and support you and put 148 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:45,759 energy into keeping you in power, and they're not really doing that for their 149 00:11:45,799 --> 00:11:50,639 voters right now. I agree. I think I think probably the problem with 150 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,799 Mike Johnson is that he's not cut out for this kind of job to begin 151 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,840 with. Maybe, like I think, he's probably a good man, probably 152 00:11:56,879 --> 00:12:01,720 conservative, but he probably doesn't have the skill set to deal with what's going 153 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:05,919 on. Could he just read the Constitution? Because when he said that we 154 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,320 are at war and therefore that explains why he is so bad, I was 155 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,039 like, Okay, fine, who are we at war with? Like I 156 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,240 want to know, who does he believe we are at war with? And 157 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:22,639 then when are we voting on that? I know it's quaint to care about 158 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:28,879 the Constitution and Article one and section eight, But who does he think we're 159 00:12:28,879 --> 00:12:35,200 at war with? Literally, I'm actually wondering that thinks we're at war with? 160 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,519 Yeah, he thinks we're war with Russia, I guess. But you 161 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,919 know, he's undermining the argument that they need to fight there so we don't 162 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,919 have to fight. I mean, that's been this kind of essential argument of 163 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:48,679 people who are saying that we have to stop Russians, you know, in 164 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:52,120 the on the eastern border of Ukraine, is that we won't have to fight. 165 00:12:52,159 --> 00:12:54,720 But if you're saying we're already at war, so does he believe we're 166 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,759 at war? Actually, this is I wasn't being silly there. Does he 167 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,679 believe we're at war with Russia? Or does he believe we're at war with 168 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:07,159 Iran or both or what? Like? I literally don't know who he are 169 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:13,080 war war with. I mean, I don't think we should be at war 170 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:18,480 with either, but Iran has killed six hundred American servicemen, constantly undermines our 171 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,360 interests in ways that maybe Russia doesn't. I don't know. People get mad 172 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,720 when I say that I don't want to be a war with anyone either of 173 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,480 those. I do want to help, Okay, go on, no, 174 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,240 I mean if that's why, I was like, I literally don't know which 175 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:37,679 which nuclear power he believes were at warm or even Well, what do you 176 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,559 think? Do you think they kind of are soon? I'm worried that they 177 00:13:41,639 --> 00:13:45,360 kind of are. They're acting in ways that seem to indicate they feel you 178 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:48,399 know, I think if they were, they would have been they would have 179 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:52,279 been a war already. I don't think Israel can live with their an iranium. 180 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:56,240 One of the things that annoys me in foreign policy discussions is that the 181 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,039 neo cons Sorry, but it's true. They always claim that the person that 182 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,840 they want to go to war with is some Looney Tunes crazy person. So 183 00:14:05,919 --> 00:14:11,720 you might remember with Putin they were like, no, he's got terminal cancer 184 00:14:11,879 --> 00:14:16,559 and the treatment is making him crazy. Or you know the leader of North 185 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:22,519 Korea and he's crazy pants. It'saam Hussein was crazy pants. And I really 186 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:28,080 hate it because as much as sometimes these people do seem crazy or hard to 187 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:33,639 understand, it's actually incumbent upon you to understand your enemy and deal with the 188 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:35,320 reality of whoever they are. And by the way, Putin is not. 189 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:43,200 You know clearly clearly that CIA operation to claim that the cancer treatments were making 190 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,440 him looney tunes was one of their stupider operations. Having said that, I 191 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,080 will admit Iron scares me on this score. And I don't mean that they're 192 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:58,240 crazy, but their particular belief system. I do think they are friendlier with 193 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:05,559 the idea of like a world ending more than I would like any adversary to 194 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,960 be. Debt it keeps you tossing and turning at night. 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But that is a scary thing that they're 213 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:37,200 trying to do. Now, imagine if they did have nuclear weapons, and 214 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:41,279 let's say they do, but just I'm sorry, let's say they don't. 215 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:45,480 They would have it would be impossible to retaliate. It would be impossible to 216 00:16:45,559 --> 00:16:48,440 deal with them. They would do whatever they wanted and we couldn't do anything, 217 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,080 or the Israelis can't do anything because the Iranians would just be like, 218 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,480 we have nuclear weapons and we're willing, we are willing to go to nuclear 219 00:16:56,519 --> 00:16:59,840 war. I don't think the Russians want to be in a nuclear conflict with 220 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,200 it anyone. I'm not so sure about the Iranian mulah, so I think 221 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,920 that that is one big difference. But I mean the Israeli situation, we 222 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,960 didn't mention. You know, Iran attacked Israel in a in a serious way 223 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:21,000 from its own territory for the first time ever with a barrage of ballistic missiles 224 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,680 and drones, and everyone's you know, poop pooing the drones. But those 225 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,400 drones were meant to sort of mess with the with the ability to take down 226 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,519 the more serious missiles. They weren't just you know, thrown out there symbolically. 227 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,119 That was an attack that was meant to kill people. So on that 228 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,279 this is so unrelated and I'm sorry, but I just want to say I 229 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,160 was traveling for much of the last few weeks and at church on Sunday morning, 230 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,559 and my parents' church, their pastor, who's so awesome. I love 231 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:55,599 him. But during the prayer of the church, he prayed for Israel and 232 00:17:56,599 --> 00:18:03,000 Ukraine and other war torn countries and referenced the attack on Israel from Iran. 233 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:10,079 But while traveling and just doing normal people things that are completely outside of politics, 234 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,680 I hadn't heard about it until Sunday morning, and I had this like 235 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:19,440 brief glimmer into what life is like for a normal person, you know, 236 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:26,000 like off of Twitter. I had no idea what was going on? Yeah, 237 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:29,720 go man, it was a war. Yeah, And so I was 238 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:32,079 like, But also I was taking up and trying to get people to explain 239 00:18:32,079 --> 00:18:34,440 to me all day long. So I was like flying back from Colorado and 240 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,279 I'd be like, so, what what exactly happened? It was very difficult 241 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:42,559 to just get a good read on what had happened the previous day. Well, 242 00:18:44,319 --> 00:18:48,440 I was enraged not just by the Iranian attack, which is expected, 243 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,640 but the attack of the American left against Israel. Literally hours after it was 244 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,559 attacked, we were already hearing how Netta nya, who was going to drag 245 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,359 us into a war you know, or you know, you know all this 246 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,599 kind of stuff, and how America you know, and I just again, 247 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:06,039 I might have said this on the podcast. I just no, American soldiers 248 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:08,359 died defending Israel, and I think they've ever asked for American soldiers to die, 249 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,880 unlike the Kuwaitis, the Iraqis, the Afghans, you know, and 250 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,519 on and on. I mean, Israel can defend itself, but it does 251 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,119 need help. It's a tiny country. If you don't want to help it, 252 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,519 people don't want to send them funding, that's fine, that's a position 253 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,599 defend it. But the idea that they are the instigators of this war, 254 00:19:25,759 --> 00:19:29,920 or they are the people looking for conflict is completely a you know, just 255 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:33,960 historically incorrect and morally incorrect. Yeah, no, I think you know. 256 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,720 I was listening to I was on Fox yesterday, but I was listening to 257 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,720 Larry Cudlow before I was on, and I love him. First of all, 258 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,519 He's one of the nicest people at Fox. And I don't want a 259 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:49,000 ton of TV news, but if I did, it would be like Stuart 260 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:55,880 Varney and Larry Kudlow. I love those guys. Anyway, he was outraged. 261 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,880 I think that the US Congress was so much about Ukraine funding and so 262 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:04,559 little about the US border, and I think he was outraged on multiple levels, 263 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:11,440 including just what an assault on the American people it is. But he 264 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:14,720 kept being like, yeah, if you you know, we get we've given 265 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:17,240 money to Israel. If we want to give some more, fine, but 266 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,839 like, you know, good country. But like this idea that you're going 267 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,599 to spend billions upon billions in Ukraine and not fix the border, he just 268 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,079 thought was like really offensive and it was interesting to hear someone speak so clearly 269 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:32,359 about it. But I bring it up in part out of reference to what 270 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,039 he was, like, Yeah, you want to give money to Israel. 271 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:37,400 Fine. I think that a lot of Americans are pleased with how that relationship 272 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,400 has gone. Like, don't listen to the fringe left there to get a 273 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:48,000 good feel for what the average American opinion is. Americans have found that alliance 274 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:52,440 to be a good one, fruitful, helpful to have an ally in the 275 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,240 region, and not altogether that expensive, you know what I mean, Like 276 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,920 it's yeah, occasionally occasionally they need some help, and mostly they take care 277 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,200 of themselves. And also one thing I like is the you know, like 278 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:14,960 the whole thing that so Iran obviously is behind the whole October seven massacre and 279 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,599 the response from Israel is like pretty pinprick. You know. They go after 280 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:23,160 just some top military leaders and they're you know, and then Iran retaliates with 281 00:21:23,279 --> 00:21:30,799 this like barrage of rockets and everything like that, and Israel does not, 282 00:21:32,039 --> 00:21:34,680 you know, and they can't really afford to be like, oh, We're 283 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,319 coming after all of you. But you can tell they're just kind of calmly 284 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:44,119 figuring out how they're going to respond. Well, you made two good points 285 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,759 there. You know, people should remember the money we give Israel. Listen, 286 00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:49,599 if you're against foreign aid, I hear you, right, if you're 287 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:55,319 against foreign aid to Israel only, I also hear what you're saying exactly. 288 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,240 But the money that we give Israel for its defense system is the most expensive 289 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:06,279 item I believe is a deterrence to war. To make them strong, is 290 00:22:06,319 --> 00:22:10,759 a deterrence to regional war, not some kind of aggression Israel has. Actually, 291 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,920 no, I should put it this way. Iran has no geopolitical, 292 00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:18,519 normal geopolitical problem with Israel other than there are Jews there. Do you know 293 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:21,240 what I'm saying? They have. No, they're not actual enemies. There's 294 00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:25,279 no reason for them to be fighting. And the other thing you mentioned It 295 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:27,279 is true Israel can only fight short wars. They're a small country that do 296 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,880 not have a big population. In sixty seven, it's seventy three. What 297 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:36,680 they do is they're attack basically, or there's aggression against them. They fight 298 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:38,400 back, and they do very well. And as soon as they start doing 299 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:44,319 well and gaining, the world tells them they have to restrain themselves, so 300 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,000 just not what the enemy would do, and then they want to rewind the 301 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,400 clock to the beginning of the conflict. This time, though, Israel hasn't 302 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,839 even had a chance to retaliate against Iran. Where everyone's telling them to restrain 303 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,759 themselves, it is insane. I asked this question in a column. But 304 00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:03,559 if the US had been attacked by hundreds of missiles aimed at civilian areas. 305 00:23:03,559 --> 00:23:07,240 By the way, would Joe Biden have called that a win? I'm thinking 306 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,079 maybe he would have. Maybe he would have, but I don't think any 307 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:15,000 normal president would have called that a victory, and we would be retaliating. 308 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:21,079 But Israel is asked not to do that. Yeah, I get what you're 309 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,880 saying. I also get that there are legitimate concerns. There are some people 310 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:30,640 who get a little too bellicos after something like this happens and they're like, 311 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:33,960 we need to go to war with a run and it's like, well, 312 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:37,039 that's not me. We like the US. Yes, yeah, there was. 313 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,799 That's an idiotic thing to say. The US a lot of Republican leaders. 314 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:47,079 And so I guess what I'm saying is I understand the impulse to be 315 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:57,000 like tamping down some of the ill poorly thought out response. I will sound 316 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:00,839 too defensive of Joe Biden there, but like people are saying, like, 317 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:06,160 okay, the goal should you always have to think like what's in your interest? 318 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:08,799 And I would say a wider war is not in Israel's interest, It's 319 00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:15,000 not in our interest, and so we also not in our interest. Is 320 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,279 everyone acting like the US is no threat at all? Like it's kind of 321 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,000 embarrassing. All these countries are just acting like they're not worried about what we'll 322 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:30,119 do at all. I mean the US, I agreed the US doesn't need 323 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,759 to go to war with Iran, but I will say that Iran is an 324 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:41,119 aggressor on it's constantly taking American hostages, it's constantly undermining US interests, went 325 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,359 about and killed hundreds. That's why Solemani is dead. They killed hundreds of 326 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,680 American servicemen. Listen, whether we should be in Iraq or not, that 327 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:52,640 doesn't mean Iran is It's okay for Iran to kill Americans. I mean, 328 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,519 something seems pretty clear cut to me, and we don't need to be at 329 00:24:56,519 --> 00:25:03,200 war with Iran. But if Israel not America, if Israel doesn't do something 330 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,000 about this, then what's the deterrence for Iran to try it again? I 331 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,559 mean, they may have just been testing out, you know, the capacity 332 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,440 of the Israel to defend itself like this. We don't know what's going on. 333 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,799 You know, Israel is bordered by Isabella. I mean, you know, 334 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:22,319 and we don't want a regional war there either, for many reasons obviously. 335 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,559 But anyway, I just think this, Yeah, this president says don't 336 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,240 and everyone just does whatever they want because no one is deterred by him because 337 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:36,599 they know he's a complete weakling surrounded by Obama accolta. Some people were comparing 338 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,880 Joe Biden, his I told Iran, don't if you're thinking about doing something, 339 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:48,079 don't. They compared that with the various like tweets and statements from Trump, 340 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,319 Who's like, if Iran is even thinking about doing anything to touch a 341 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,400 hair on the head of any American, you will rue the day you were 342 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:03,799 born. That's a horrible impersonation. I'm sorry. The Sometimes it actually is 343 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,319 good to put a little bit of fear in people about, like, we 344 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,440 don't know what he's going to do if we do this nobody, I know, 345 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:12,880 people. You know, Reagan's not popular in big parts of the right, 346 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,839 but his whole he was not a warmonger. In fact, he was 347 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,440 just about strengthening deterrence. I think that that's a good way to go for 348 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,359 the United States in general, and was a relatively good way for him to 349 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,359 go. I was thinking about how he's got something for everybody, So the 350 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,680 neocons. Actually, it's like kind of funny how much the neocons believe that 351 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,880 Reagan was a neocon. But there's a ton of stuff you can pick out 352 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,000 from his foreign policy as well, if you're a realist or someone who is 353 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:42,400 not a fan of the incons. I mean, he was not a fan 354 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:48,920 of democracy building at all. He was a fan of scaring commies basically, 355 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,559 right. I mean, he left very rude after the attack from Palestinians mostly, 356 00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:56,640 and I can't think of another place where he was a democracy building really, 357 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,359 I mean, it was more about the interests of the United States locally 358 00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,799 in the Central America and so on. Right, yep. I don't really 359 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:08,599 see a neo much of a other than being having a strong military, which 360 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,000 I guess most people want, right I have. Americans want a very strong 361 00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:18,519 national defense. They just want it less focused on nation building and more focused 362 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:25,519 on protecting our country, more focused on bombing bad people like I. If 363 00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:29,599 you never use or if people think you will never actually use that military, 364 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:37,240 that is not a deterrence. Correct. Yeah, So any event, anyway, 365 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,000 that's a bad situation there. I do wonder what Israel is going to 366 00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:41,839 do. Hopefully they punish your on. I mean, you cannot get away 367 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,720 with something like that or a sovereign and another sovereign nation that is I think 368 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:49,519 a step too far, complete red line for any free country. And also, 369 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:53,279 as I mentioned last week, no Israeli government will survive that allows that 370 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,799 to happen and does not retaliate in some way, It just won't happen. 371 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,519 Just and again, to get back to this country, though, the idea 372 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,279 that Mike Johnson is preparing to spend billions of dollars on Ukraine and do nothing 373 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:12,920 on the US border. Is deeply alarming about the situation of the lack of 374 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,880 leadership in the Republican Party right now, and that's exactly what's about to happen. 375 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:25,000 And it's like, you know, never been a Republican. I've never 376 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,759 been employed by a Republican or worked for Republicans or anything like that, so 377 00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:33,680 I don't have a ton of experience there. But I feel like this is 378 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,519 such a bad idea. I mean, like there's so many problems with Republican 379 00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:45,279 leaders not actually representing Republican voters that it could really hurt the security of the 380 00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,720 republic. I mean, there's the political angle, which is, if you 381 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,079 people really didn't like Donald Trump, what you should have done was just deliver 382 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,519 win after win for Republicans and they would their love for Donald Trump would go 383 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:02,039 away. But they see just by comparison. I was actually this was another 384 00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:04,440 fun thing about being out in the wild. I was with a bunch of 385 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,720 people who are not there. They're kind of definitely Republican voters, but not 386 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:15,200 natural Trump fans. And one of them was saying that when he watches Donald 387 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:21,119 Trump get out there day after day, being with his enemies trying to imprison 388 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,759 him and bankrupt him and his family. And that's where people usually can turn 389 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:26,839 the screws on you, not when they go after you, but when they 390 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:30,119 go after your children. Right, that's when people cave. But every day 391 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:36,319 the guy gets up and just takes it and knows that if at any moment 392 00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:38,559 he would bow down to like the regime, it would all be over. 393 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,799 But he doesn't do it. And every day he gets out there and he's 394 00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,000 like, no, I'm actually I'm actually running for president again. And that's 395 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,200 how seriously I take this. And they see what he's willing to do for 396 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,000 the country and for them, it makes them love him. And if by 397 00:29:53,039 --> 00:30:00,720 comparison, you have Mitch McConnell constantly talking crap about Republican voters, Mike Johnson 398 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,480 being like, I used to be a conservative, but then I had a 399 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:07,119 conversation with the CIA, and now I see that you can't be a conservative 400 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,319 that you know, like how easy it was to make him get down on 401 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:17,839 his knees to the security state. You know, it does not create love 402 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,160 and adoration, and in fact, quite the opposite. So if the Republican 403 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,960 Party truly didn't think it was a good thing to have Donald Trump in it, 404 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,640 leading it and setting the direction. 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Yeah, I saw a lot of 412 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,839 Republicans say that, my you know, we're talking about the PHISA bill, 413 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:22,319 that reform bill that Johnson just completely caved on within after one meeting with you 414 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:26,440 know, intelligence officials or whatever. But everyone thinks, you know, they 415 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,119 bribed it. Yeah. I hear people say, I think they just scare 416 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,799 you. I think they take you in there and go listen. You know, 417 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,039 there's gonna be a gike. You know, there's gonna be some terrible 418 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,680 terrorist attack if we don't you know, have fight, you know, have 419 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,480 FISA the way it is and so on. But I don't understand why can't 420 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,400 come out. I'm not saying get rid of the whole apparatus. Obviously, 421 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,200 we need to defend protect American citizens, but he can say we need to 422 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,720 reform it to make sure there are a fewer abuses, you know. I 423 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:53,480 mean, I just don't understand why you can't take a moderate, you know, 424 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:57,640 position on this kind of thing. It's obviously abused, it's abused, 425 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,839 and I don't it's Donald Trump this time, and Trump officials who you know, 426 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,759 every single FISA warrant, there was something wrong with every single FISA warrant 427 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,000 that was used in the whole Rushi Gate thing. So can't we come up 428 00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:15,720 with some kind of reform and imagine how easy it is to to weaponize that 429 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,119 against someone who's not even you know, running for president. I mean, 430 00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:22,960 it's mind boggling how much power they have. And I just don't understand why 431 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,519 he couldn't support some kind of reforming of that of the PAISA bill, okay, 432 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,880 or you know, on yes, obviously I cared deeply about Mike Johnson 433 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,319 passed the tie that he broke the tie by passing the vote to give the 434 00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:44,319 deep state whatever they wanted to continue their attack on Americans and their u and 435 00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:47,559 their properly elected leaders with the FAISA package. But also, like, why 436 00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:53,039 couldn't he just say, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna pass HB two or 437 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,960 whichever bill it is that deals with border security, and we're going to pass 438 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,480 funding for Israel. And we know that you are all going to vote against 439 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:02,240 both of those things, but we're going to pass them, and we're going 440 00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:06,400 to send them to the Senate, and we are not doing a single thing 441 00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:13,480 of what you want to be brought up until and unless Joe Biden signs those 442 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:17,640 bills and then we can move on to what are these other things? Yeah? 443 00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:28,200 Okay, And but back to this Mike Johnson, Sorry, what he 444 00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:31,519 said in calling himself a wartime speaker was really disgraceful, I thought, and 445 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:37,079 it relates to how we don't win wars anymore, and we don't take war 446 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:43,640 and peace and our national security seriously anymore. This guy and this pathetic cabal 447 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:52,079 of mediocre people in Washington that he represents is disgraceful to the real war heroes 448 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,440 this country has actually had in our history when we took national security seriously, 449 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,160 and when we took going to war seriously. And it is high time we 450 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,480 returned to the leadership of people who respect the country, citizens and the people 451 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,119 who volunteer in our military to go to war when it directly impacts our national 452 00:34:07,199 --> 00:34:12,199 security, and when we have the commitment of the American people to prosecute it 453 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,519 to victory, and that commitment is constituted by a vote in Congress following what 454 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,039 our constitution says. These people and Mike Johnson is related to this. They 455 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:28,079 are disgraceful and they need to be thrown out in public in a free and 456 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:34,719 fair election. And I was talking to someone actually when Mike Johnson came out 457 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,760 and said he was preparing to sell out Republican voters with this like bowing down 458 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,360 to Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden. And this person just sent 459 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:49,559 me that scene from Brave Heart. Do you know where William Wallace is like 460 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:54,400 riding on the horse and hits the guy with the mace. Yeah, that's 461 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,440 the picture that the person sent me. It was like, I don't think 462 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:07,519 people understand how it makes Americans that the permanent DC class is so corrupt and 463 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:13,199 so stupid and so reckless, like you want war? I mean, Mike 464 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,280 Johnson, He's like, I want war. We're in war, baby. 465 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,239 We're not following the Constitution, but we're at war. We won't say with 466 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,239 whom, and we won't say what the metrics for success are, but we're 467 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,199 at war. That guy is about to get us into a real war. 468 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,880 Like that guy by not resisting what Biden and Schumer and McConnell are doing, 469 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,880 he's about to get us into a real war that he so desperately craves like 470 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:39,320 these are un serious people who are the opposite of statesmen. But the sad 471 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,639 truth is that voters are going to re lack ninety nine percent of these people, 472 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,599 as they do each time. So it's up to them to change that. 473 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,199 And if they don't, they get what they deserve. As Mankin said, 474 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,840 I mean, I don't really you know, that's one thing. But 475 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,639 I just one other thing that you said that's interesting. I think that you 476 00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:59,039 have a lot of people in DC. First of all, no one's found 477 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,880 that no one's followed constitution on this since the Iraq war. I feel like 478 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,159 an idiot talking about the Constitution that we all purport to follow. But I 479 00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:08,440 mean every time I mention it, I feel like I'm some kind of like 480 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:14,559 tea parties like Dave seven seventeen seventy six or something like it's so Jejune to 481 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,639 talk about the Constitution, Like no one really cares, right, I mean, 482 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,760 but I wanted to say this. You know, there is this weird 483 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,000 juxtaposition between all the big war talk on one hand and then when there is 484 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:31,039 actually you know someone, and then and then kind of the weakling, you 485 00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:35,800 know, non deterrence, you know what I mean, like don't don't, 486 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,519 don't, and everyone just does it, so you look weaker and weaker each 487 00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,679 time. But yet on the other hand, you have this big talk going. 488 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,119 I mean, no one really do people. I just don't think Iran 489 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,519 or Russia really fear America in any any way. Now, I'm not saying 490 00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:51,679 we should be in war with other countries, but they should respect us, 491 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,760 and they don't. What you got there, sew, Well, have you 492 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,760 read this one? I figured like you might, this book Waging War by 493 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,360 David Baron. No. It's kind of interesting. I mean, he's like 494 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,880 a big Democrat foreign policy guy, but it's about the battles between Congress and 495 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,920 presidents dealing with foreign policy from the beginning of the country to isis. But 496 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,960 what kind of makes me sad reading this is that we go from having conflicts 497 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:21,000 to just not having conflicts at all. Like the Constitution is clear that war 498 00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:25,840 is declared by Congress, by Congress with votes, not with leaders going into 499 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,679 back rooms with the CIA and just telling people were at war, but like 500 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,199 actually voting and being held accountable so that the American people can weigh in on 501 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,360 whether they want to go to war in this place or another place. And 502 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,880 this book goes through all the conflicts that Congress had with various presidents, including 503 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:50,239 George Washington, you know, and now we just don't have those conflicts at 504 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,719 all because Mike Johnson says, sir, yes, sir, I'd like to 505 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,599 follow your foreign policy, Joe Biden. I mean, there's no conflict, 506 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,239 there's no vote, and it's just sad. I mean, we were in 507 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,400 war in Serbia without a vote, We were in war in Libya without a 508 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,800 vote. We are in war all over the place without any kind of vote 509 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:14,639 by Congress. People just circumvent and honestly, we sign all kinds of international 510 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,320 agreements through the executive branch, which is also you know, on climate change, 511 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,840 on all different kinds of things. That's also on constitutional treaties are supposed 512 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,400 to go through the Senate, but the Senate abdicates it's has abdicated as responsibility 513 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,599 a long time ago. I know this is a different topic, but just 514 00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:35,960 the other day, Chuck Schumer is celebrating the student loan forgiveness plan, like 515 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,360 that's an executive abuse. The Senate doesn't exist to be appendage of the Democratic 516 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,079 Party. I get that there's politics. It's supposed to also defend separation of 517 00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:50,559 powers, which it doesn't even do. They celebrate, you know, the 518 00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:55,039 executive branch doing what it does. These are our defenders of democracy Mali people 519 00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:01,559 who celebrate not having power. I do feel like it's weird that each year 520 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:06,639 it seems that news is speeding up and the amount of things are happening that 521 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:14,079 aren't getting a proper response, Like it just increases this unconstitutional and in direct 522 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:21,000 violation of the Supreme Court buy off of young voters that Democrats are doing through 523 00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:30,719 this student loan having me repay other people's students. You know, it's a 524 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,880 real assault on our system. Of government, and nobody seems to care. 525 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,400 Mike Johnson is busy doing war time against an unnamed country, too busy to 526 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:46,440 actually care about what Joe Biden is doing in violation of the Constitution. Of 527 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,480 course, the media are not going to say anything about it. It's scary. 528 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,079 This is a bigger attack on the Constitution than you know. I mean, 529 00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:59,800 it is, it's up there in recent years. I mean, you're 530 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,840 ignoring this. Not only is it obviously an executive abuse that you're breaking contracts 531 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,800 and unilatterly taking people's loans and making other people pay them, which is just 532 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:16,159 authoritarian. You're ignoring Supreme Court. You're ignoring the Supreme Court which told you 533 00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:20,360 not to do it. By tweaking a couple of words in your plan like 534 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,639 this way, you can just keep doing it and go on forever. And 535 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,039 obviously is just trying to buy vote. And there's no downside for them if 536 00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:30,599 you don't care about the Constitution. There's no downside because if the Supreme Court 537 00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:32,800 overturns it, they'll just go back to attacking the Supreme Court as hating AMERI 538 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,519 you know, as being this terrible institution. If you know, and if 539 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,920 it works obviously they're going to be paying off some young people. I blame 540 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,400 the media for this, as I often do for many things as well, 541 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,760 because they keep calling it by euphemisms like loan forgiveness, which it's not, 542 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,360 or cancelation, which it's not. Loans have been given, loan, the 543 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,840 money has been used. Someone needs to be repaid. Either we can print 544 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,280 more money and create more inflation, or we can let our kids pay for 545 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,039 it. I wonder if they polled and asked people, do you think your 546 00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:09,920 kids should pay for someone's PhD in journalism or gender studies or whatever crappy, 547 00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:14,880 useless degree they're getting. I bet you they would not be as gung ho 548 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,079 about this plan, right. I don't even want to pay for PhD in 549 00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,519 neuroscience, yeah, for a variety of reasons. But pay your own loans? 550 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,760 And why is it student loans? Why isn't it mortgages, Why isn't 551 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,760 it car loans? Why? Why? Because they want young people to vote 552 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,159 for Joe Biden, for Democrats. It's the only reason. And God, 553 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,360 I think we're heading in a bad direction. I mean, like Elizabeth Warren 554 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,599 is a social, Like she's not even a social, She's just an a 555 00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:45,360 status and authoritarian and so is now Chuck Schumer like they keep moving farther and 556 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,519 farther to the left. Thanks, So you were mentioning so mentioning Chuck Schumer 557 00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,920 in the Supreme Court, I just have to say that I was listening to 558 00:41:53,119 --> 00:42:00,679 oral arguments in yesterday's Fisher case. This is the one where to go after 559 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,559 political opponents. The Department of Justice did something they never do with any DC 560 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,559 protesters. So DC protests happen all the time. Throughout the summer of twenty 561 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:15,880 twenty. We had riots, arsonists, attacks on cops, a besieging of 562 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,599 the White House, attacks on federal monuments. You know, there were The 563 00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:24,920 Department of Justice did not go after the people who did the months long siege 564 00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:31,840 of the Marco Hatfield Federal Courthouse that shut down business there. But when January 565 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:38,559 six happened, they wanted to really destroy the lives of anyone who was involved 566 00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:42,599 in just that riot, not any of the other riots that had hit the 567 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,440 entire country that previous year, just those people. And so they came up 568 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,519 with a theory that had never been done before, where you would use an 569 00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:58,920 obscure provision of the Sarbanes Oxley Act to like ramp up the sentencing of people, 570 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,119 even people who had like peacefully entered the capital. You know, there 571 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:06,840 are differences between the people who like broke windows and broke their way in versus 572 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,119 people who were actually like welcomed in by cops opening doors. You know, 573 00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:14,360 there are differences there, but there aren't differences when it comes to the DOJ 574 00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:19,679 going after these people. And so a lot of people were challenging the use 575 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,920 of this obscure Sarbin's ox Leaty provision and I and a few of them made 576 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,079 it to the Supreme Court, and one of them is the sky Fisher. 577 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,559 So the court was trying to test the outer limits of this theory that the 578 00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:40,000 Department of Justice was using. And it was really interesting that, you know, 579 00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:45,280 I can't remember. It was like Alito or Gorsitch were asking different questions 580 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,840 about when it would be used. Oh yeah, it was Gorsach who was 581 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:53,679 like, so could this be used if you were interrupting a trial? And 582 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,519 like it's like, no, I can't remember. I do feel like maybe 583 00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:00,360 both of them were asking along these lines, could you use this if you 584 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,519 pulled a fire alarm to delay a vote of Congress? That happened just quite 585 00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:12,199 recently where Jamal Bowman, the Democrat, tried to delay proceedings related to I 586 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,719 think the last time the speaker chair was vacated, and not only did he 587 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,920 not get Sarbine's ox laid, he got nothing. He got like the lightest 588 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,679 slap on the wrist, and no problem for him even though he's a member 589 00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:28,000 of Congress. So one of the reasons why the government was saying that they 590 00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:31,320 have to use this obscure provision is because these people really had intent. They 591 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,440 knew what they were doing. Oh like Jamal Bowman, No, not him, 592 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:42,119 he might have been confused, you know. And this Elizabeth Preligar, 593 00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:45,639 however you say he named the solicitor for the government, was saying like, 594 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,920 yeah, if you, let's say you're pro abortion protester and you interrupt the 595 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,880 Supreme Court proceedings to delay them, you might not know that you don't have 596 00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:00,440 a First Amendment right to do that. And I'm sitting I sit there thinking, 597 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,800 you know what, I just went to hear oral arguments. They told 598 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,360 us like a hundred times you don't have a First Amendment right for outbursts. 599 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,400 And these justices know what the rules are of their court. They know that 600 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,719 she knows that's not true, you know, And I started thinking about what 601 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,440 it was like for some of these people. Imagine that you are one of 602 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,320 the justices who overturned Roe v. Wade with the Dobbs decision, and that 603 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,280 means that you are one of the people who literally cannot go out to eat 604 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:37,760 dinner. Your wife or your husband cannot go out to eat dinner for years, 605 00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:44,639 maybe forever. And you have people who are threatening violence against you for 606 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,119 years, your children, some of them actually come quite close to killing your 607 00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:53,760 children, and you were told by the Department of Justice, oh, sorry, 608 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,840 there's just nothing we can do about it. You have the White House 609 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,280 and the Department of Justice actually being like this First Amendment protected activity. You 610 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,079 have like Merit Garland. So let's say you're Brett Kavanaugh. You served with 611 00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:10,159 Merrick Garland for like twelve years on a court together, and he's telling you 612 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,320 there is just nothing they can do to stop your home, your wife, 613 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:22,760 and your children from being under constant threat of murder. There's just nothing they 614 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,239 can do. And then the next day they're like, so would you okay 615 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:31,480 this, Oh, let's keep going. Let's say Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer 616 00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:36,639 has personally called you out by name, which he did in the case of 617 00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:39,840 course Chan Kavanaugh, and called for violence against you if you don't rule the 618 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:45,559 right way according to his belief and support of killing onmore and children, and 619 00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:51,599 nothing happens. Nobody charges him with incitement once some of his followers take him 620 00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:53,159 up on it, you know, nothing happens, and then the government is 621 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:57,840 like, yeah, would you sign off on this like obscure use of a 622 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,320 provision that has never been used this way before so we can go after our 623 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,880 political opponents because one afternoon they made us a little bit scared for our safety. 624 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:13,320 Just imagine what that must feel like for those people. All they want 625 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,360 to do is keep you poor and stupid. The Watchdot on Wall Street podcast 626 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:21,480 with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the 627 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,760 economy and how it affects your wallet. Some in the media are trying to 628 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:29,000 tell you it's bad if your prices go down, causing a deflation spiral. 629 00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,880 If prices go down, are people really going to hold off on buying things? 630 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,519 Doesn't everyone need groceries. Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall 631 00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:38,599 Street. It's affecting you financially. Be informed. Check out the Watchdot on 632 00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:43,159 Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get 633 00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:50,960 your podcasts. I mean, obviously, I think that there were people involved 634 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,159 in in January sixth who are more violent than others, and some you know, 635 00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:58,519 the idea that a bunch of people wandering in they were all part of 636 00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:01,599 a coup data to over three democracy and knew it. It's just preposterous. 637 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:05,559 And everyone knows it. You know, everyone knows that you can call it 638 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,360 nine to eleven all day long. It's just not and uh and yeah, 639 00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:14,880 I mean it. Yeah, I mean, isn't this the thread that goes 640 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,920 through so many of the problems today is that there's just two different sets of 641 00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:23,760 rules, two different sets of you know, just think about Donald Trump being 642 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,360 on trial for stuff that Joe Biden obviously did as well, and just one 643 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,480 guy being let off and the other guy having to deal with it, you 644 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,079 know, and this goes, you know, this threads through so many different 645 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,960 domestic issues that are going on. Yeah, Garland did not seem convinced by 646 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,440 any of those, Yeah Garland, No Garland Gore such case. I seem 647 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,719 convinced. Yeah, I because I'm working on, you know, these books. 648 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,880 I've been listening to a lot of oral arguments, and I'm sorry, 649 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,599 but I got a kick. I know some people might you kind of heard 650 00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:00,800 the New York Times or are other people trying to present Gore just being condescending 651 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,400 when he first came on the court, And in a way, I get 652 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,440 that, but it was so funny to me when Elizabeth Preligar, who has 653 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,440 this like little girl valley girl voice, she's you know, she's like actually 654 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,679 a really good solicitor. She's very successful. People rightly praise her, but 655 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,519 she sounds like a fourteen year old girl, which is just like hard for 656 00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,199 me to listen to. But she's she also speaks very quickly and she interrupts 657 00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:27,400 a lot, and you're not totally supposed to do that. But the way 658 00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:30,679 that Gorsich just says if I may, you know, he has this like 659 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,840 very low baritone. He's like, if I may, and it comes off 660 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,559 like little girl, please stop talking, you know, or you like, 661 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:45,159 stop talking right now. But that was that was a good argument. You 662 00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:49,719 know, their case constantly is that these people are bought off. There was 663 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,920 a story about Gorsicic getting a house from these lawyers or whatever, some smear. 664 00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:55,559 But the funny thing is they hate them because they're principled. Now. 665 00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:00,599 I don't always love what Gorsich does, but it is clear that he has 666 00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:07,119 a judicial philosophy that he follows through almost autistically to its end each time, 667 00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:12,079 and sometimes conservatives don't like it. And yet the smear on all these people 668 00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:15,039 is that they're not principled, that they're bought, and it is just an 669 00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:22,039 incredibly it's just disapproving with almost every case that they take it. Yeah, 670 00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,519 I hope so, yeah, listen, no one's perfect, but I've made 671 00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:30,119 the argument often that I think it's the last functioning institution in this country. 672 00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:38,559 So talking about that insurrection issue, I read the transcript of an interview that 673 00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:45,679 Governor Johnson Unu or whatever his first name is had with George Stephanopolos, and 674 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:52,000 he got a lot of mockery from bellow Trump ranged people for how he handled 675 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,639 this because he's endorsing Trump and they feel like this makes no sense. The 676 00:50:55,679 --> 00:51:00,599 whole interview was it was such a it was kind of weird to watch. 677 00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:07,719 SNU Knew sort of famously went after Trump during the primaries, he thought about 678 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:14,599 running himself. He endorsed Nicky Hayley, and he has used like just emotional, 679 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:21,000 completely unhinged rhetoric when talking about January six, he calls it an insurrection, 680 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,119 right, like it's just totally ridiculous. And so George Stephanopolis was like, 681 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,320 here's you a few months ago saying that January six was the worst day 682 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:36,559 in the history of the world and that Donald Trump was personally responsible for it, 683 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,159 and now you're endorsing him, Like, you know, that seems not 684 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,679 good. And so the never Trump you know posses were out there just like 685 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,480 highlighting this and saying like how awful Sanunu looked for it. I actually agree 686 00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:52,599 he looked awful, but like from a normal person's perspective, which is what 687 00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:59,000 the heck is wrong with him accepting every single left wing narrative such as that 688 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:04,639 January six was an insurrection. He was asked questions about the twenty twenty election 689 00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:06,119 and he was like, no, no, no, don't worry. Do 690 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,519 not hurt me in any way. I agree with you that the twenty twenty 691 00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:13,880 election was the best election in the history of the world. I mean that 692 00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:17,239 should get you kicked out of the Republican Party. It's not just that you 693 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,920 are taking away from Republicans the right to be involved in setting policy on how 694 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:29,679 we run our elections. You are directly aiding the Democrat Party in what they've 695 00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:32,800 done to elections when you speak that way, and you know likewise, when 696 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,039 you know that the Democrats centerpiece of their campaign is that if they don't get 697 00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:40,920 their way, democracy is hurt, and therefore everything gets put into this like 698 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,960 democracy bucket and you like go right along with it. That doesn't make you 699 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:52,079 a Republican governor. It makes you a Democrat like Patsy, And I think 700 00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:57,280 that there are all these Republican types like him. And they look at Liz 701 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,039 Cheney, who they were like totally cheering on when she was running the Republican 702 00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:07,239 Party destroying efforts. On January sixth, they're like, I think we're going 703 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,119 to take back the party, guys. I think we got it got We're 704 00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:14,519 going to take it back from those yahoos. And then they saw what actually 705 00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:19,960 happened is that Liz Cheney wrote herself out of political existence beyond MSNBC roundtables, 706 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,280 and they're like, oh, we don't want to be Liz Cheney. So 707 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:28,440 we're going to pretend that we actually support Republican voters and their candidates such as 708 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,360 Donald Trump, but we're going to still be the same way on everything else. 709 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:37,280 And I think they really do believe Republican voters are stupid to fall for 710 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,559 this. And it's also just it's no way forward. If you give over 711 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,320 election security to your enemies, you are not a leader of your party full 712 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:53,039 stop. Just not I mean, just from a different perspective, I think 713 00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:57,639 he's just a Northeastern governor who's going to be pretty liberal on stuff. Even 714 00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:00,480 though I agree with you, we didn't have to say all the things he's 715 00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:04,840 done. But the thing that always cracks me up about this sort of critique, 716 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,760 not yours, but the never Trumpers, is that this is completely normal 717 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,920 every Republican George Bush called Reagan's economic planned voodoo economics, and he was the 718 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,960 vice president a year later. Like this, everyone always rallies around the candidate 719 00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:22,079 of the party and they move forward. Do you think people who do you 720 00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:24,840 think most Democrats think Joe Biden's the best candidate out there or agree with him 721 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,039 the most. No, they rally around it, but no one makes them 722 00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:31,559 take purity tests, you know. So there was this Politico hatchet job against 723 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:36,360 Kevin McCarthy that I read last week. So Kevin McCarthy spoke on a few 724 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:42,280 college campuses and was very well received without selling out his party. And so 725 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,920 I think it's Ben Jacobs at Politico, the guy that I think he got 726 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,679 beat up by a member of Congress a few years ago in Monty body slammed. 727 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:54,760 Yeah. He writes this like total hatchet piece. He's clearly frustrated that 728 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,239 he can't find a single student, even though they're all liberal, to speak 729 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:05,599 against McCarthy. And one of the things that he complains about with Kevin McCarthy 730 00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:09,800 was that he had done something nice for Donald Trump, Like I can't remember 731 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,280 what it was, but it was like Donald Trump liked a certain candy or 732 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,480 something and he got that candy for him or you know whatever. And he's 733 00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:22,800 like, this is complete sick of fancy and it's just like what you were 734 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:28,480 just saying. How is it that when like, sorry, doing a nice 735 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,920 thing for a president is a pretty common thing, like throughout all space and 736 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,880 time doing nice things for your leader, right, But when Kevin McCarthy does 737 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:43,079 it for Donald Trump, that means that he's corrupted and immoral. And then 738 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:45,039 the other thing was that Ben Jacobs was upset about, is that some of 739 00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:50,800 the lines that he used at Georgetown he also used at Harvard or wherever. 740 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,960 The next school was. I'm sorry if you are a political journalist with more 741 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,280 than a single day experience and you were writing that a politician has set a 742 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:07,199 line more than once, as if that's newsworthy, like just leave the profession, 743 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,719 you know, they say this is a thing over and over again forever. 744 00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,760 That's funny. Here's another thing though, just quickly, like if you 745 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,039 here's what happened with Sonona. They asked him. Listen, in the end, 746 00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,480 you're going to vote for Donald Trump or whatever. You know. Let's 747 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,599 say you don't like Donald Trump. But the other choice is it is just 748 00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:35,360 a disaster on the economy, selling out our allies, just weak, feckless, 749 00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:37,760 you know, disaster, And I have to make a choice, and 750 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,239 you're asking me what my choice is. It's not going to be difficult for 751 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,760 a Republican to say Donald Trump anymore. Actually the question was even worse than 752 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,559 that. It was asked by George Stephanopoulos, a man who worked and became 753 00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:54,800 someone because who worked for Bill Clinton, and that's where he made his name, 754 00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:00,519 Bill Clinton the rapist, Bill Clinton, world famous rapist. Yes, 755 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:07,320 Bill Clinton is asking you know this is Georgetefanopolis also did this thing where he 756 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,960 falsely accused Donald Trump of rape in that interview with Nancy Mace where she cleaned 757 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,519 his clock. And then here his question too, sudan Nu was like, 758 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:22,679 wait a minute, You're going to support Donald Trump even if he's convicted. 759 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,519 And that was like the that was the whole thing, was like, even 760 00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:35,880 if he's convicted, as if like a conviction in one of the current Democrat 761 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,719 show trials would in any way change anything at all, Like a conviction is 762 00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:45,079 going to happen in at least one of the trials, maybe all of them. 763 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,760 That's the point. The point of the show trials is to secure a 764 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,280 quick and easy conviction. The idea that you would support Donald Trump while he's 765 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,840 going through a show trial but not at the conclusion of it, Like, 766 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:04,280 that's not a legitimate journalistic question. Nobody, nobody with integrity thinks, for 767 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,239 instance, that the Alvin Bragg case that's going on in New York right now 768 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:13,559 is legitimate. Nobody, nobody, even far left wing MSNBC. People when 769 00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:17,639 the indictment came out were acknowledging that it was complete and utter horse maneuver, 770 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:25,360 Like even the most crazed partisans. The idea that when Alvin Bragg succeeds in 771 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:30,559 his show trial in New York City, which he will, that that would 772 00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:37,639 somehow change things is absurd and it should be treated as absurd. Does do 773 00:58:37,719 --> 00:58:44,320 any that's just if Donald Trump is convicted in that trial, it's just a 774 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,199 friend r When when it's just a fine, I don't know, I assumed. 775 00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:52,519 I mean, the whole point of navalneying your political opponent is to kill 776 00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:54,559 them. So I don't know if it's just going to be a fine or 777 00:58:54,639 --> 00:59:00,199 a prison time or jail sentence or have no idea, but like that's not 778 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,119 the point. The point is to kill your political opponent, which is what 779 00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:09,960 the show trials are all about. So, but like people, people clearly 780 00:59:10,039 --> 00:59:14,679 don't view these charges as legitimate. I think we live in a country, 781 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,559 sad to say, where if you're charged with the crime, most people think 782 00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:21,719 that means you're guilty of the crime, not like technically guilty, but like 783 00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:24,360 in that informal sense, like, oh, he was charged with murder. 784 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:30,360 He's a murderer. You know clearly that's not true. In the case of 785 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,840 the of the charges against Donald Trump from his Democrat opponents, whether it's the 786 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:43,840 Biden dj or Alvin Bragg or Letitia James or Fannie Willis, these are the 787 00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:49,639 opportunity to take these things seriously really occurred at the point of indictment, and 788 00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:54,119 judging by the polls which show which would show in a in a sort of 789 00:59:54,119 --> 01:00:00,559 free and fair legitimate like running election a nineteen eighty style l and slide, 790 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,480 clearly the American people don't view this as legitimate. Even the people who love 791 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,760 what's happening love it for the navalney reasons like we don't like this guy, 792 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:15,760 we want him dead, not because they actually think that Donald Trump broke any 793 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,119 law when he paid a non disclosure agreement. They do not believe that. 794 01:00:19,239 --> 01:00:22,840 Nobody thinks that, literally nobody that brag jury, Like, if you get 795 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,880 on that jury, you're either politically motivated or you're the one of the dumbest 796 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,280 people on earth. Because literally all you have to say is that you can't 797 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:38,000 you can't be unbiased juror right because everyone knows Donald Trump is in the world 798 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,960 one jury said he was a fan of the Barrowitz report, and they tried 799 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,639 to get him off the jury and they couldn't. He should be like ejected 800 01:00:46,719 --> 01:00:52,679 from you know, society. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, 801 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,800 so, yeah, he's not going to listen, he's not going to 802 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,599 get a fair trial there, because jury systems are ridiculous, especially when there's 803 01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:02,480 a political to it and politically motivated. All right, well, I'm sure 804 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:07,440 we'll have more on that trial starting soon, right, I mean the jury 805 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,639 selections now, so it must be very close. Yea, So maybe we'll 806 01:01:10,639 --> 01:01:14,000 talk about by the way, do you think it's going to help Donald Trump 807 01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:17,199 or hurt Donald Trump that the judge in that trial says that he can't go 808 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:23,880 to his son's graduation. Probably hurt. But I think that that's already all 809 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,239 baked in. I think all the people who feel like Donald Trump is the 810 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,159 target of you know, law, fair and all that already are big things. 811 01:01:31,239 --> 01:01:34,480 Yeah. I wonder David, like, let's say you're just like one 812 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,639 of these, Like let's say you're you know, Bill and Susan Crystal or 813 01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:40,840 whatever, you know, your people who are like completely deranged by Trump. 814 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,239 You support the women's March, you wear a vagina hat on your head, 815 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:50,639 you know, like all that kind of stuff, and you are you're cheering 816 01:01:50,719 --> 01:01:54,920 on all the lawfair against Donald Trump, and they say we're not going to 817 01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:01,840 let him go to his son's graduation. Are you so removed from basic decency 818 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:07,000 that you're like, yeah, or do you go? Am I the batty? 819 01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:08,480 I think I'm the batty? I feel like I'm I don't think so. 820 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:12,239 I don't think so. I think that they think of Trump as Hitler 821 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,199 or worse in some instances. So no, So, like you know, 822 01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:16,599 if you ask me, would you go back and shoot baby Hitler in the 823 01:02:16,599 --> 01:02:19,800 face, I'd be like, yeah, I'd shoot him with the magnum right 824 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,119 in the face. I think they would do that with Donald Trump. So 825 01:02:22,119 --> 01:02:25,840 I think not going to a graduation is not going to really affect their view 826 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,239 of it. I think they just think he deserves to be punished. I 827 01:02:29,239 --> 01:02:31,400 think they view him as Hitler, worse than Hitler. I mean, you 828 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:36,679 see, I'm going to catalog this in my forthcoming book. I mean there 829 01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:42,920 are column after colum when people say he's worse than Hitler in major major publications. 830 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,760 Yeah. So, no, I don't think I don't think Bill Crystal 831 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:52,360 is going to care. That's just my view. Let's talk about let's about 832 01:02:52,400 --> 01:03:00,199 it. Let's talk about something more enlightening culture. I actually did something. 833 01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:05,000 I actually watched something. I did two things. I'll start. I don't 834 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,960 know if you had I think maybe you don't have a lot. You were 835 01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:12,920 very busy, right, go on. So I watched this show called Fallout 836 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,400 on Amazon, which is based on a video game which is extremely popular, 837 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:22,079 has been since I believe the late nineties. Have you ever did Are you 838 01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:23,679 a gamer? Have you ever played in any way, shape or form? 839 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:29,079 Have you ever played a video game? Like? Did you have Telexico? 840 01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:30,719 Yeah? Television, That's what I had? Well, me too. I 841 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,880 wanted Ataria my dad, you wanted to get like something better for me, 842 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,280 and he got in television. It was still okay, it was okay. 843 01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:43,000 Yeah. I love video games. I try not. I try. It's 844 01:03:43,079 --> 01:03:45,599 very addictive for me, so I try not to play them because it takes 845 01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:47,519 up too much of my time. But anyway, I've never played Fallout. 846 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,880 I love this show. I'm so happy I'm watching it. I expected it 847 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,440 to be terrible. Walton Goggins is in it. One of the from justify 848 01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:00,719 you're such a huge fan. I just think it's a March show. It's 849 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,440 kind of funny. It is violent, so if you don't like like super 850 01:04:03,519 --> 01:04:06,400 violence, then you know it's not for you. So that's what I did. 851 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,920 That's my big show. I watched like six episodes. I recommend it. 852 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,519 Okay, I I haven't watched anything, but I did go bowling. 853 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,559 My my cousin, Garth died. We talked about it, and the funeral 854 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:27,000 was in Colorado last week. By the way, excellent funeral. My cousin 855 01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:32,960 Garth was larger than large personality and had a lot of friends. There were 856 01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:36,199 several hundred people, you know, many hundreds of people at his funeral, 857 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:44,079 and it was a beautiful service. The sermon was so crist centered and comforting 858 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,480 and beautiful hymns, and then you know, there was the meal afterward. 859 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:55,960 People shared stories and the stories were really funny and everything. But my cousin, 860 01:04:56,159 --> 01:05:00,199 his sister organized a little bowling outing for from people who were there. 861 01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:08,480 I am a horrible bowler. What's the score? Not good? Although, 862 01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:13,000 like also I don't know the terminology at all, So like my first two 863 01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:16,000 balls were gutter balls, you know. Then like by the sixth or seventh 864 01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:19,599 frame I got. I had a gutter ball in the first roll, and 865 01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:23,800 then I got all of the all ten of the things strike. Yeah. 866 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,039 Yeah, So but I didn't know the names for it, and so I 867 01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:28,679 was like explaining to my brother's like, I got all ten of the things, 868 01:05:28,679 --> 01:05:30,760 and he's like, that's called a strike. No, that's not called 869 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,920 a strike. That's called a spare. A spare is if you hit like 870 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,639 one down and then you hit the nine others. But I just I had 871 01:05:39,679 --> 01:05:42,559 a gutter ball and then I got all ten. Oh is that still a 872 01:05:42,599 --> 01:05:47,119 spare? Okay? And then but then the next frame I did get the 873 01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:50,400 strike. I got all ten on my first one, which was very exciting. 874 01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:54,920 But then but then I think I got tired and it just degenerated from 875 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,039 there. But there is something very fun. I was talking to my cousin, 876 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,679 my dad's cousin, Tina, and I was asking her some question about 877 01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:06,280 the rules, and she sounded like that guy from Batman. You know. 878 01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:11,239 I was I just didn't know how something went or what the scoring was, 879 01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:15,039 and she was like, I was formed in bowling Alley's Bowling Alleys raised me 880 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,679 like I know this, and she was so good. She was like such 881 01:06:18,679 --> 01:06:24,280 an amazing bowler. So that was fun, and it did seem like bowling 882 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,400 would be something I would like to do more of. Oh yeah, I 883 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,880 grew up with a lot of bowling. I liked it. I've been gone 884 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,519 in a while. They sort of made the bowling alley's like discos now, 885 01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:35,440 like there's music and lights. I don't know if they're all like that, 886 01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:40,320 but I don't enjoy that. Ll So this this was certainly nicer than the 887 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,400 bowling alley I'd been to in high school. But it wasn't so nice that 888 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,239 it was super expensive or super clean, you know what I mean. It 889 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,760 was still like a bowling alley. And the dude next to me was so 890 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,840 good. I was like, I bet he's on one of those like bowling 891 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,000 shows, you know. He was just powerful and had a great form, 892 01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:00,760 and it was so much Anyway, it's fun. It also made me wish 893 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,320 that I live near my family so I could do silly things like bowling all 894 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:10,199 the time. Yeah yeah, all right, well that's a little of a 895 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,599 downer note. And no, I also went. I also went to a 896 01:07:13,719 --> 01:07:17,440 record store and I got some records. I got a Dionne Warwick Greatest Hits 897 01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:20,559 for three dollars. I mean, that's what it's worth. I also, 898 01:07:20,679 --> 01:07:25,000 I don't know why, but I got a couple of Cheech and Chong albums 899 01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:29,800 and they hold up pretty well. I don't know why I like Cheech and 900 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,679 Chong. I'm not not a stoner, but I think it's like growing up 901 01:07:32,719 --> 01:07:35,760 in California and Colorado. They would play a lot of the bits on the 902 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:44,639 radio and they just make me laugh despite my differences. So I mean, 903 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,400 I've seen I saw all their movies because that's when I was alive. I 904 01:07:48,519 --> 01:07:53,079 never really totally got into it. So maybe I'll give it a shot. 905 01:07:54,159 --> 01:07:58,000 Yes, thank you, thank you for that recommendation. Hofully, you'll have 906 01:07:58,119 --> 01:08:00,800 more next week. And until them, be lovers of them and anxious for 907 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,719 the break and really breathe and say, and I say, they've got a 908 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:09,199 lot of space. There'll be a place where I can stay. I was 909 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,440 born and raised and said, and I say, I'm going back to find 910 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:14,760 some of them.