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the iHeartRadio app and California Government. They're doing it again. I know our
government is made up of the people that we, when I say we citizens
have voted for, but it doesn't mean that everything that they do is worthy
of emulation or applause or anything like that. And when I talk about government
in a general sense, I don't think people who are elected to office by
and large have the interests of their constituencies at heart. Someone hit me on
Instagram and said, mo, you should run for office. I said,
I should absolutely not run for office, because it's almost like I know too
much as far as how the sausage is made. I know that most politicians
are full of ish. Most politicians and elected officials are unserious, and it's
about staying in office and the perpetual campaigning and what have you. And they
will say anything to just about whomever they think is the constituency which is best
suited to get them re elected. I have no illusions. That's why I'm
registered independent. There are deeply held beliefs I have, and there are certain
politicians who are more in alignment with them, But by and large, I
just can't take elected officials seriously. Here's what I mean. In California,
for the past two years, more than the past few years, we've again
and again and again sought to pass bills which were more in the purview of
the FDA than actual governance in the sense of things which actually improve our lives.
I don't need the government to tell me what to eat, what not
to eat, how to eat. I don't need the government to tell me
what can or cannot be put into food. I leave that to the state
Department of Health, leave that to the FDA. Proposed California bill would ban
methylene chloride from decaffeinated coffee production. I said I was going to talk about
this. I didn't get to it last hour. I'll get to it this
hour. And I say this as someone who is very rare. I don't
drink coffee, never have I know, Mark, I'm serious. I don't
drink coffee, and working in radio, you think I drink coffee. The
only time I've ever had coffee, as in like hot coffee, I was
in Spain, I went to a dunkin Donuts and they didn't have any water
per se. You know, they didn't have any drinks. Everything was coffee.
Coffee was everywhere, and I said, well, when in Barcelona,
do is the Barcelonians? So I had coffee while I was there. Didn't
like it. Never grew on me growing up. Both my parents heavy coffee
drinkers, didn't like it. Never grow on me. I liked hot chocolate
because I didn't like to taste of coffee. And at best I will have
an iced coffee. Back when I was filling in for Bill Handle on rare
occasion, I'm not a morning person, so getting up at four o'clock in
the morning to do a six am shift, I needed a little pick me
up. That's the only time outside of that. Never so I don't have
a personal vested interest in whether they banned this particular coffee ingredient or if they
banned coffee altogether. I won't miss it. I won't care about it one
bit. You really hate America, don't you. I hate everything about America
when it comes to coffee. Oh my god, this is abnormal. Realize
that you're the abnormal one. I admit that I am a strange individual.
This is just one of my peculiarities. Okay, it's just one of them.
I got a bunch of them. But the chemical in question is methylne
chloride. It's a colorless liquid that federal regulators have already banned in certain manufacturing
and industrial processes, but not in food or drinks. Coffee companies use methyline
chloride to remove caffeine and this one. Assembly Member Eloise Gomez Rees is the
author of Assembly Bill two zero sixty six, which would ban methylene chloride from
all coffee products in the state. Quote. There are three ways of decaffeinating
coffee going through the process. This is the only one that uses a known
carcinogen to decaffeinate it. Of course, the National Coffee Association is against this
proposed ban. The President and CEO Bill Murray, not that Bill Murray,
but his name is Bill Murray, had this to say. Quote. The
activists sponsoring this bill have not presented any evidence to justify banning the most common
type of decalf because none exists. Not only is there no evidence of any
health risk, but in fact, decades of independent scientific evidence demonstrate that drinking
European method decalf like all coffee, is associated with reduced risk of multiple cancers
and chronic diseases. The World Health Organization, the American Cancer Society, the
American Institute for Cancer Research, the World Cancer Research Fund, and California's own
Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment agree close quote. Well, it's pretty simple
to me. Just be a non coffee drinker like me. That'll in all
your problems. Sean, do you drink coffee? You do a little bit.
I do an occasion thought, only ice, though I don't like hot
drinks either. Okay, at best, I'll do ice coffee and it's definitely
not decaffeinated in nature. What's the point. Yeah, it's like a non
alcoholic beer. Yeah, and I never I never drank beer for the taste,
right, I drink beer for the buzzy exactly. If I'm going to
a baseball game and that's about the only time I have beer, I will
have a beer for the purpose of having a light buzz and watching the Dodgers.
I don't go home and say, hey, why don't I have me
and old duels? Nor Mark, do you have the hotline to the nuthouse?
Because I need you to get them on the line and have some straight
jackets come up here with this coffee. That is a politically incorrect way to
emotionally and unstable people. Okay, coffee, beans, nuts, it's all
in the same. We need some sort of intervention here, We need we
need you to be put in volunteer. You're more upset at me not drinking
coffee than this proposed California bill which would outlaw methylne chloride. When they packed
the caffeinated is it a carcinogen or is it not? I don't know.
I'm saying that's what the story says it is because wait, wait, there's
a carcinogen in cigarettes and that hasn't been outlawed. Well, the existence of
one bad thing doesn't justify the existence of further bad things. I would say
that just because there is a carcinogen, that doesn't mean that it's been worthy
of being banned. So you're gonna take this bold pro cancer stance, This
is admirable. Lie like this. No, no, no, there's a
carcinogen in alcohol. I am pro the ability to have a drink, to
have a smoke, it, even have decaffeinated coffee. Now, if you
want to say there has to be a warning label as there is on cigarettes.
If you want to limit how it can be advertised, as there is
a limit to the way you can advertise alcohol and cigarettes, that's a different
discussion. I'll have that discussion, but damn it, when I get home
tonight, and probably you will too, we'll have a nightcat. Well,
let's meet in the middle on this. I think we can find some common
ground here. Anybody who wastes my time drinking decaffeinated coffee, maybe you deserve
cancer. How about that or a slap slap. I'm not gonna wish cancer
on anybody. I'm just trying to compromise. Don't drink decoffinated decaffeinated coffee.
Don't do it. You are lower than low and I'm the person who's supposed
to be in the nutthouse. Goodness, gracious, you just around here wishing
cancer on people just because they don't drink your fully caffeinated coffee. Don't blame
the people trying to compromise in you the American way. You say I hate
America. Do you know how American coffee is? You might as well be
running around the office here in a speedo with a rising sun on it.
Look at the top. Yeah, it's Later with Mo Kelly if I am
six forty. How did we get here? How did we get here?
With life everywhere? In the iHeartRadio app, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. Well, welcome to the party,
y'all, Welcome to the party. It's it's so funny hearing all the
discussions today across social media. On TV, you even had political commentators talking
about why is Caitlyn Clark not making as much as the man? Why is
she only gonna make maybe three hundred and forty thousand dollars across the four years
of her rookie contract. And I said, oh, y'all so cute.
You haven't been actually following WNBA basketball or women's college basketball. You just came
to it recently because of Caitlyn Clark. It's so cute. And your fake
outrage because you don't even understand how any of this works. You don't know
what a collective bargating agreement is. You don't understand how the NBA had to
fight for all these progressive rays increases for the players over thirty five years or
so. They had lockouts, they had strikes, They had all sorts of
fights about revenue sharing and merchandise and broadcast rights. And you say, well,
Kitlin Clark should be paid more. No, she shouldn't, because she
is being brought in under the twenty twenty collective bargaining agreement, which was negotiated
and agreed upon by two sides, the owners and the Women's Players Association,
the union. It was agreed upon and there's a payscale, a rookie payscale.
It didn't matter if it was Caitland Clark or it was maybe Bethany Brown
in the newsroom, whoever was going to be number one pick overall, they
were going to get that exact same contract because that was collectively bargained agreement.
That wage scale was agreed upon. Why, because that's all the WNBA can
afford. Realistically, you can't pay Caitlin Clark the same as you did Victor
Winbeyama the number one overall draft pick for the men in the NBA, because
they're not there as in the WNBA. They're not bringing in the same level
of revenue, they're not commanding the same amount of money for their broadcast rights.
In twenty fourteen, the NBA sold its broadcast rights for twenty four billion
dollars was ten years ago. Ten years ago, and when they're renegotiated next
year, it's expected to sell for two point five times that. It should
be maybe sixty billion that'll be sold for across many networks. The WNBA is
not there. You raise that rookie pay scale and also the average pay or
minimum pay for all the players in the league. By expanding their broadcast rights,
which they have to sell, they've made one step forward by selling.
I should say that that deal that the WNBA entered into with CBS, and
so the Indiana Fever and other teams will be shown on national TV through all
out the WNBA season, which I might add is only half the length of
the NBA season. WNBA only plays like forty games. NBA plays eighty two
games. There's another point of comparison. But if you believe, if you
personally believe that Caitlin Clark should be making more money or the women of the
WNBA should be making more money than it's incumbent upon you to put your money
where your mouth is. That means purchasing a description, a subscription on the
w NBA League Pass it means buying merchandise, it means watching the events,
it means talking about the league and also the games on social media. But
it just seemed like you just found out about the league last year, maybe
last week, or nothing before, Caitlyn Clark. That's what it sounds like,
because if you're talking about the women's pay and you don't understand what a
collectively bargained agreement or revenue sharing, how both of those things figure into the
rookie pay scale, which is locked in and has been locked in for the
WNBA since twenty twenty. If you don't understand those things, then yes,
it's going to seem like it's so unfair. It's just unfair. Kitlin Clark
deserves more money. Did you see the ratings for the NC two A game.
It's a different league. I don't care. It just seems unfair Kinglin
Clark, she was so good on SNL, she deserves millions of the get
an endorsement. I don't care. That's how you sound because you don't understand
how it actually works. And if you don't understand how it actually works,
then yes, it's going to seem unfair. The WNBA can't even afford can't
even afford to fly all their players' private they still are flying commercial. Lakers
got their own team plane. All the NBA team's got their own team plane.
Why Because they're bringing in billions and billions of dollars. The w NBA
is presently losing millions of dollars each year. Can that change? Absolutely?
That's why you have a Kitlin Clark and hopefully get a better TV deal.
But the point is you cannot pay the WNBA until they on the same level
as the NBA, until they start making NBA level revenue from ticket sales,
merchandise, jersey sales, broadcasts and streaming rights soul. Until the WNBA performs
on a level pun intended of the NBA in a monetary sense, then the
players are not gonna get paid the same amount. I don't want to hear
about. Well, the women are doing the exact same job as the men.
Oh no, no, no, we're talking about a business here.
Well, what about the ratings for the NCWA. That's one game and that's
college that's not pro that'll do barn gangbusters for the next TV deal for the
nc two A tournament. But we're talking about the NWNBA. The WNBA has
to demonstrate in this year, this time, while they have Caitlin Clarks and
all the eyes of America watching. Since you're now in WNBA fan for all
of twenty minutes, you gotta put your money where your mouth is and actually
support the league, not just you, but your family members, your friends.
And then you will start to see it more places. Because I remember,
Stephan, I don't know if you remember this, or maybe I didn't
tell you this, but Mark wouldn't know this because he wasn't here yet.
But when we first started the show and I had John Jackie Ray, we
were talking about the WNBA CUNC consistently and people were saying they were hitting me.
Then when I was on Twitter and other social media, why you're always
talking about WNBA. No one cares about that league. No one cares about
women's basketball. That's what I got. I have been consistent. I have
always been all in on women's basketball, women's soccer, women's tennis. I
am a legitimate fan. I can tell you about the teams. I can
tell you about the star players, the key executives, all of that.
And now people were sending around this meme talking about Caitlyn Clark. Deserves more
money. No. No, The WNBA owners negotiated and collectively bargaining agreement keyword
agreement with the players union as far as salary and pay structure and revenue sharing
relative to the money they were bringing in, and the league wasn't bringing in
money. It is subsidized. The league is subsidized by the NBA. It
is losing money, and they're still paying their players as at this moment,
is not generating a profit, so there's no revenue to speak of to share.
If Caitlin Clark can be the catalyst to change all that wonderful, I
am all for it. But if you're gonna send me that meme one more
freaking time talking about how Caitlin Clark is only as gonna make some four hundred
thousand dollars from her w NBA contract for the first four years, You're an
idiot. You're dumb. You're dumb, dumb, dumb. You need to
stop sending it to me. You're just mad and loud and dumb. I
know that sounds harsh, but someone needs to tell you that because I've been
talking about w NBA for years now, and now you want to say,
Mo, did you see this I'm surrounded by idiots. Not you, Mark,
Not that's around. I'm just saying in the in the you know,
the bug sphere, in the in the web and the worldwide web, of
course, of course, and get back to me when you're ahead of the
curve. On women's wrestling, we talked WWE. We've had Bianca bell Air
on here twice. What are you talking about? Okay, are you sure
you work on this show? Stefan? Can you remind them how many wrestlers
we have on it? Let's see female wrestlers. Well, let's just focus
on that a little bit more. Please, all right, we've had a
number of female wrestlers, wrestlers in general. Okay, I'm a fan of
wrestling, and I would like to meet I think you should pay closer attention
to the show. You might become a fan. My goal is to do
that at some point. It's Lady with mo Kelly. We have more w
NBA talk and Caitlyn talk because y'all need to be educated and just woman.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
It's weird. I was watching cable news. I was watching broadcast news.
I was listening to commercial radio, I was listening to public radio, and
just about every outlet was discussing the Caitlyn Clark phenomena. That's good, but
also talking about the pay disparity in the WNBA. That's bad because that's not
new. But people want to act like, oh my gosh, this is
such a tragedy. This is just a this is something which just can't happen
in America. It's unfair. It's gender disparity. No, it's not.
It's not gender disparity. It has to do with capitalism and revenue sharing.
And I'm gonna remind folks, and I leaned on Stephan but now I had
to go back and look it up. Do you remember Britney Griner. We
were talking to Jackie Ray, who is a w NBA correspondent for night Cast
Media, and Britney Griner. That was the biggest story in the nation,
how she pled guilty to having you know, marijuana something something on her in
Russia and people were asking, what the hell are you doing playing in Russia?
And we had the discussion. Then the WNBA players were not making enough
money in the WNBA, so they were playing in international leagues. Russia at
the time was one of the top paying leagues. That's how they were able
to afford a Britney Grinder. I think she was making about a million dollars
a year playing in Russia. They said, why the hell would you go
to Russia because they were paying. This is not a new issue. We
were discussing back in July of twenty twenty three and all you new found WNBA
fans did not care because you didn't like Britney Grinder. But the underlying foundational
issue was still there. It was you didn't care when those players not named
Caitlin Clark, who had actually proven themselves in the WNBA. You didn't care
when they were not getting paid. You just care now you can't even tell
me who is the number one player in the draft last year. That's what
I thought, So save all the outrage about this is so unfair. You
know what fair is for fairies for five year olds, because when you're five
years old, that's when your mama and your daddy should have told you that
fair to that actually exist. This is not about fair This is about a
collectively bargained agreement between owners and the players union which dictates the payscale for the
subsequent years until the next collectively bargained union agreement. If you want to be
mad at someone, be mad at the WNBA players Union, which agreed to
this deal. Or you can be mad at the owners for continuing to subsidize.
When I say owners, they're usually NBA owners that own both the NBA
franchise and a WNBA franchise. You can be mad at the owners for subsidizing
the NBA, which would not exist without the continued financial support of the NBA
team's slash owners. Having said all that, there is an opportunity here to
change the trajectory of the WNBA, and it was never more apparent than watching
the draft last night. I had it on in the studio. It was
going on up until my show. It started a few hours before my show,
went into my show, and I got to tell you it was well
done. The ladies were well dressed. You could tell they took advantage of
the moment. And I don't say this to be salacious, but the women
look beautiful and how they're being presented. It was a good way to showcase
the league and the growth of the league, the impending growth. There were
a number of names in that draft class that you and I both know because
of the storylines. We talked about how the storylines were so important. Because
of the storylines of Caitlin Clark, you already know who Angel Reese was.
When they showed Paige Becker's from Yukon, who's not coming out this year,
who will probably be the number one draft pick overall next season, you know
who she was because of the storyline between Iowa and Yukon in the tournament.
That's what grows the game, and you will have some of these players coming
out of this growth in the league who will become stars, not w NBA
stars, but transcend the where casual fans, non fans know who these athletes
are. There are a lot of people who have no interest in the w
NBA who now know who Angel Reese is. For example, Okay, it's
little by little, brick by brick, but if one more person sends me
that damn Caitlin Clark mean about how much money she's not making or deserves to
make her pay them what they're pay them what they're worth, I promise you
I will block you on site. I like blocking people anyhow. If I
had a block button for Mark Ronn. I would have blocked him ages ago.
You wouldn't. He always has something to say. I'd rather at least
mute him, but I can't. I don't control Thank you, Stefan.
You don't have the willpower. I don't have the means. Oh, I
have the willpower. I like blocking mother father's. I will block y'all left
and right. I will throw a block party in them in a heartbeat.
I would be so empty without me, you wouldn't know what to do with
it. I'll put up those cones and those those concrete barriers around the studio
and I will just block people the rest of the night. I'll open up
my threads. I don't have Twitter anymore, but I'll open up every social
media app. I have a true souls. I'll just get on there and
just block people. I have an account there. I don't even use.
Just block. I think you need to get back on Twitter and start arguing
with people again. I enjoyed that. Nope, I enjoy not going through
the stress of people who were just trolling. They didn't have anything constructed to
say. They were just mad that I was in this time slot. Well,
I'm not going anywhere. Too bad so said block. See there,
here we go. That's what I like. But to be serious for a
moment, just one of course, of course, let's bring it down.
This is a time. If you really want to see the WNBA succeed,
you actually have to act like it. You can't send me on one day,
going back to last segment, jokes about how nobody watches the WNBA,
nobody cares about the women's game. It's bad basketball. You can't send that
to me last year, and the same account send me this year. This
is so unfair to Caitlin Clark because you only care about the league now because
of Caitlin Clark. That is your only point of entry. That's the only
name that you know. That's the only thing you know about this sport.
And for all of twenty minutes that you've been paying attention, twenty minutes,
you want to tell me now what I need to look out for, what
I need to discuss, what I need to be aware of of, you
know, just the unfairness of it all and your outrace. You're angry.
You want me to do something about it. I want you to learn how
simple stuff works. When they renegotiate for the last time, the collectively bargained
agreement which will dictate the rookie pay structure and contracts revenue sharing going forward.
That next agreement, which I believe is next year. I think it's like
every five years you will see a dramatic increase in pay for not only rookies
but also players at large in the WNBA. So fewer because of this moment,
fewer will have to go overseas to play to just make ends meet.
Like a Britney Griner who made maybe two hundred thousand in WNBA, but made
a million dollars in Russia, and you were okay with her being jailed in
Russia because she'd enact the way that you wanted her to act. But now
you're mad because Caitlin Clark is not making that money. Well, if you're
actually concerned about the WNBA, the league, then you have to be concerned
about the league. Buy a t shirt, buy a ticket, watch a
game, call a friend. I don't know what you need to do,
but you have to actually support the league. Get a subscription to WNBA,
League pass, whatever, Tune until later with Mokelly as we talk about it
just about every week, shout out Jackie Ray. You have to actually support
the league. And if you actually support the league, then you can say,
hey, the WNBA salaries are increasing and people like Caitlin Clark are being
paid there. But until you do that, it will never happen. None
of your memes or hashtags mean anything. You actually have to support the league.
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty.
But Steph, and I gotta ask you. I know you're a dog
lover like me. Coming up on Sunday, Sir, is the Wiggle Waggle
Walk. I'm gonna be there. Riley's going to be there, Benson is
going to be there. My wife, I don't know. She's still undecided.
She may just want to stay in bed. But the three of us
are gonna be there. I'm gonna meet all of you. The question I
have to you, Stephan, is are you going to be there? Not
sure? I'm not syre like Tim Cammy, I don't know. Well,
if you'd like to come out and join us. The Wiggle Waggle Walk and
Run is one of Pasadena Humane's biggest fundraisers each year, with proceeds helping to
save lives of thousands of animals in our community with programs such as foster Care,
Kit Nursery, Animal ICEEU Wildlife and more. I am part of the
KFI team. I have donated in support of Amy King, who's our team
captain, and KFI has been the top fundraising team for the last three years
and we want to make sure that it's fourth year. This year, we
want to keep our street going. We can only do that with your help.
You can go to kfiam six forty dot com, forward slash wiggle and
it'll give you all the information there where you can donate. Process is fast,
easy and secure and you can be sure that it will benefit animals in
need. So come on out Sunday Brookside Park and Pasadena. It starts at
nine am for the walk, but there are plenty of other things to do
hang out. I would love to say hello to you. Riley, my
younger Mini Schnauzer. He's antisocial. He will probably bark at you in everyone
who may come up to me. That's just who he is. Benson,
he's a little older, he's much more laid back. He just wants to
fight a place in the sun, to just sit down and just roll over
on his back. That's all he wants. I know that if I give
him that, he's happy. Riley he's an instigator. He'll take on coyotes
or does not matter. I was gonna say, does he ever get Benson
like in public? Does he get him rolled up? Ever? Always?
Always? No, no, no, always. And they're kind of like
Abbott and Costello. One is looking at the other, one's like, what
is wrong with you? That's a great comparison. I mean, honestly,
like, what's wrong with you? This is like, I'm here to have
a good time, get some snacks, you know, maybe yeah, maybe
have some people pet me. And here you are instigating, barking at people,
telling everyone to go away. It's counterintuitive, is counterproductive. Get what
the program man? And they will fight at home for that reason. What's
the what's their age difference? Benson is six, he'll be seven on Halloween,
and Riley is four. He will be five on November twenty ninth.
Oh wow, okay, yeah, so they're getting in the middle age.
Just Vinson is slowing down in the sense of he doesn't need to be jumping
around all the time. But he has his moments where he will start wrestling
with Riley, just let him know that he's still the alpha in that relationship.
Oh yeah, But looking forward to the Wiggle Waggle Walk, something we
do each year, and I'm this year most definitely. And it's a good
time if you've never been. There are plenty of vendors, there's food,
there's souvenirs you can buy. You can meet with other pet owners and exchange
information and wisdom. And again, I'll be there and I'm looking forward to
meeting you, and I'll be out there with my dogs. So I always
talk about all the time, and they're the joy of my life. They
are the kids who never grow up. You know, that make you mad,
but also they make your life really fulfilling. I can't speak for cats,
you know, there's just a different relationship going on. You know,
dogs are in fact different from cats. You really lit on something there.
Yes, yes, yes, they're very different. I understand that you're a
cat lover. Well, no, I like dogs too, But I just
don't have a yard where I can have a dog. Well I understand that.
And when I lived in a townhouse, it was difficult. Before my
wife and I bought this house, we were living in my townhouse and it
had a balcony and Benson was the only dog we had at the time,
and he would use the balcony to do his thing on people below, which
was very funny. I can't be mad at the dog going outside and doing
what the dog is supposed to do outside. Now, if you just happen
to be walking underneath my balcony at the time, that's a U problem.
That's a you and a golden shower problem. That's right. You know.
Just be glad as the number one and not a number two. You have
to take your victories wherever you can. A glass half full of pee,
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