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excited and delighted to be with you
again today. My guest is Michael

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Cameron. We're going to be talking
about his new book and his spiritual supernatural

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UFO encounters and it's going to be
fun. Michael, Welcome to the show.

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Brother, how are you hello there? Thank you for inviting me it's

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good to be here. Good to
have you. Man. Your new book

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is High Strangeness he is and that
was put out through Philip Mantle's publishing company.

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Correct, Yeah, Flying Disk Press. Awesome. Yeah, I've I've

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interviewed a couple of the people that
put out works through him and just we

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just lost what is his name from
Pasca Gula, Yeah, Calvin Calvin Parker.

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Yeah. I was able to interview
him in person. He lives or

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lived less than thirty minutes away,
so I was able to go there in

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person and meet him. Yeah,
So that was cool. And he worked.

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He was a lovely guy. He
worked with with Philip and Flying Disc

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and they put out some amazing work
for sure. Yeah. I think it's

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still ongoing, isn't it, and
continuing. I mean, he's a lovely

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guy. Yeah. Did you ever
get a chance to speak with him?

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Only briefly? Probably last year.
I did, any but it's a very

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brief time. You know. I
actually wanted to meet him, but I

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didn't get the opportunity to at the
time. Yeah, which is just a

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bit of a shame. But I
did. Yeah, I did speak to

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him briefly, and I do know
lots of people that knew him. So

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that's cool, thank you. But
yeah, we're going to talk about your

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book and your experiences and going back
to when you were a kid is where

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a lot of this stuff gets birthed. And you know, definitely for me,

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you know, playing it something in
my mind and my life to kind

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of put me on a trajectory to
ask deeper questions. So for you,

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where did all this start, with
these experiences and supernatural interdimensional beings UFOs,

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all of this stuff, Where did
it start? For you? Well,

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from me, it started, I
guess when I was being born into the

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world again, you know, I
often say at the time when I was

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being when I was being born here, I was my mom's mum, which

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would be my grandmother from my mom's
side, she was passing you know again

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what you know, into I guess
spirit world. And I often say to

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people, you know, maybe we
met each other on the way. She

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was on the way back and I
was coming back here. And after when

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I was born, I was born
premature, was an unexpected child. I

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was in hospital a long time.
But when I did eventually go back to

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the house, which was a new
house. I was brought up in a

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you know, as I said,
in the Roman strict Roman Catholic Irish family

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in a Roman Catholic environment. My
dad was a school keeper of a school

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house which was in the built into
the grounds of the what would be a

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junior school. And you know,
my book focuses primarily on this location in

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the East end of London during the
nineteen seventies and for most of the you

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know, most of the activity that
has happened to me in early childhood and

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teen age, in my teenage years
happened in the ouse or in the location,

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or within the school itself. So
in the ouse that I was brought

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up in or as a baby,
we experienced in the house lots of poltergeist

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activity, which you know, it
seems to be associated with this type of

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phenomena, you know, high strangeness
with and you know, in the in

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the house itself when I was basically
in my cot my parents were seeing things,

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you know, like orbs flying around
or balls of lights which were in

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the room where I was. And
my brother Sean, So I talked in

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the book about my three brothers,
Frances, Kevin, and Shawn. Sean's

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two years older than me. I'm
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lot older than me, and Sean
and and my brother you know, my

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brothers were were seeing entities that were
basically looking down into my cot when I

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was a baby, which and you
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was happening. There was cold spots
in various areas that were previously not there.

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And my mum used to hear disembodied
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house that were calling her name,
and when she turned around there was nobody

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there. Often caused her to flee
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I remember there was a time when
my brother Francis was laying in bed and

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we had a large wooden oak wardrobe
which was really heavy, and it was

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toppled over on top of him on
the bed. But he wasn't hurt,

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but he was in shock. And
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and some it pushed him down the
stairs. He felt something move against him

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like a hand and or something,
you know, knocked him again. He

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wasn't injured, he was just shot. And there was not to banging on

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the walls in the house where we
grew up. It was the you know,

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the walls and there were were really
strong and so if you were to

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bang your and against them, it
would it would produce only the sound of

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thuds, you know. But these
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used to continuously, every almost every
night, go downstairs to check there was

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nothing now, and when he returned
to the bed, the sounds would return.

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it's only a sort you know,
help from the Catholic Church. When the

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activity started to get more you know, I guess more sinister where somebody could

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be so as he hurt, and
when we had objects that went missing and

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then reappeared. So eventually a priest
come in and you know, they blessed

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the house and it eventually went away, this type of activity. But as

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for the you know, I am, you know, I would describe myself

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as an alien abductee from infancy.
I'm a mill lab which is a military

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abductee. And also, you know, I guess a spiritual experiencer, which

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is all tied in with this phenomena. So it incorporates, you know,

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the m ibs men in black you
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and other types of entities along with
military projects. So it but for me,

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I guess it started with the you
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it would be when I was aged
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we had an experience ourselves where we
were where we witnessed what would you know

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now be called a daylight disc,
you know, the the classical saucer shaped

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craft. So you know, I
talk about that briefly in my book as

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I go through each narrative, each
story, and then you know, much

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later on a little bit after that, I, you know, I had

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experiences. One experience that I had
that that I took about in the book

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is when me and Sean are playing
in school grounds and then we go off

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and play in the school itself.
It's a summer holidays, you know,

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it's a very hot day. My
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would have been working in the school
with clingers, you know, whilst they're

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getting the school ready over a period
of weeks, six weeks, and then

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he goes he goes into the house
to have a bike to eat. Me

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and Sean go into the school,
into the main school and we play ide

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and seek. Remember in the book, I explained that I go off to

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you know, to hide, and
Shawn's counting. Somewhere in between that Sean

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stops counting. He gets to you
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and then I suddenly, you know, I come out. At first,

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I don't. I think he's trying
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get me to come out, to
reveal where I'm hiding, so I don't

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come out straight away, but there's
just total silence, and then i'd eventually

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do come out out and I see
my brother looking what would be through two

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doors that lead led into the you
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and he's just staring into space what
I think is into space until I

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walk towards him and he says,
what's that? What is it? And

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then when I looked to where he's
pointing, inside the school hall itself,

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there's a piano and there is this
strange looking creature standing there just staring at

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us, just looking at us,
whilst we're looking at it. You know,

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during those times, there was nothing
that we would associate with this type

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of creature, you know, growing
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we just didn't have any influences like
that around us, especially in the nineteen

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seventies and in a in an Irish
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our days were mostly associated with going
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to the church and the school.
And this creature would look like I guess

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today, which would look closely in
the resemblance of what you would find in

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close encounters of the third kind,
you know, the the creature that comes

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out from underneath the big ship.
Who is you know, I guess the

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leader. The only difference is this
this one had huge black eyes, and

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it had it was very tall,
and they had long, spinderly arms and

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spindly legs. And at the point
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somewhere in between that we went into
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consciousness, you know, and everything
anything around us, like sounds or anything

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that vanished, you know. And
as I explained to people, you know,

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I guess it would be called you
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was coined by the you know,
the British UFO researcher Jennie Randalls. She

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coined that phrase the OS factor,
and so and then I, you know,

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from looking back, I would say
that we did have a lot of

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time. So when I eventually come
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felt a I was disorientated. I
was scared looking through at the you know,

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it's almost like when somebody wakes you
up when you've been sleepwalking and you

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don't know where you are really,
and so I'm looking still at where this

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creature was, but now the creature's
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he's still in this type of state
of consciousness. But when he eventually snaps

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out of it, you know,
there's this feeling of dread, feeling of

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terror that you need to get away
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run back to the way that we
come into the school, because we were

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going to go back to the house
to tell our parents. But when we

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were going, when we were going
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my dad was coming in and then
he come up to us, and it

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was sewn that explained that there was
something in the school. There wasn't huge

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human, and for a short moment
he was you know, my dad,

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he was like looking at our faces
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him, but obviously he could see
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to investigate, I guess, you
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human, but looking for an intruder. But when he went off, he

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come back a little while later,
and he couldn't find anything. And as

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he said that, the doors were
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there was no windows stop and there
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there was nothing near really, I
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after that, you know, to
just go off and play again. Just

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stay close to the house so that
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be seeing so you know, these
so there was a there was a series

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of events that if me and Sean
didn't counter have, you know, have

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experiences together. But then these I
don't know if Sean continue to have these

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experiences, you see, but I
did. Mine continued and they still continue

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to this day. And most of
the experiences I had were not positive experiences.

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So you know, this is basically
what I am. You know,

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I talk about in my book,
I talk I go. You know,

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the book's more than just I'm not
just telling it. I'm you know,

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it goes into my life a little
bit more so that the reader can have

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a little more insight into who I
am. So there's the book's got a

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lot of detail in it, you
know, in some places, in some

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some of it what I write about
it is quite sensitive, you know,

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so it goes into other issues that
are for some people may not think it's

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related to high strangeness. But in
book two, which I'm writing now,

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it explains more why do I put
that in? And now I associated with

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the me leab programs. I guess
the training of the oh m hm.

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So do you think that that was
pre planned or they took notice that,

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you know, maybe ships were attracted
to your home that the government can see,

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like you know who who the ets
or whatever are watching and then kind

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of come in to see those kind
of things versus because you said, you

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think there's something that happened when you
were born, right, this crossing over,

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this passing of a torch or something, and then you start having these

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encounters when you're a child. You
know, the whole my lab thing or

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when they get you know, the
military induced abductions is what the my labs

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are. And so from my study, it's it's been a huge I see

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them as trying to hijack the phenomena
to keep tabs or even the create fear

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in hysteria, so that you won't
lean into it, that you won't see

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it as something pleasant versus something that
was created, like your first initial encounter

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being a my lab or was it? I mean, what do you think

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I mean? I did have in
the beginning, which I do talk about.

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I did have experiences what we're now
known to be the classical Nordics,

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you know, the tall blonde athletic. These were the first one I had

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contact with, and you know,
for a while they the experiences seemed quite

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good. And eventually when they did
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that I had the what we now
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they're not good. They don't have
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interests of people, our hearts.
We know that the military, you work

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with them and you know, in
some cases work against them. But the

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you know, from my understanding the
things and what I've been told from outside

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of the body is that the you
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come, when you return here,
we have contracts that we agree to.

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These contracts you know, to in
a way like ballpoint like bullet points,

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to cross off certain things in order
to grow spiritually, you know, with

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our associations with people, and there's
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archage will say, you know,
human beings of choice. You know,

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we don't we don't judge them.
It's a choice you make, and whatever

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choices you make in this in these
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or you're just remain static, I
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know, you hope in your heart
more to forgive. You know, people

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that you have experiences with that in
some cases are there too, you know,

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for us to grow spiritually. But
in this case, though, I

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know that the from lifetime to lifetime
we have you know, we with some

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of us come through certain bloodlines we
have we you know, some of us

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go, especially star Seeds, they
go through the you know, the ancient

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mystery schools to learn certain you know, certain things, and some of them

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follow military lines that you know,
what would I guess what could be considered

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what now what they call super soldiers, you know the Vikings for example,

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that they were considered to some degree
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super in that they were their skill
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you had the Knights Templar again that
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you know, super brotherhoods. But
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they the grace the abduction program is
it's a lifelong program that's been going on

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for centuries. So the same people
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over again. It's very difficult once
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them. And normally when you're on
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to you. It can happen to
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teenager, young adults, mature adults, and very much so leading into

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death. The programs go on and
continue for you. But what happens is

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is when you come back here a
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that are inside you know, your
biochemical field or you know what's surrounding your

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body. These you know even then
you pass into if you want spirit,

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when you return it and you have
a different body, I mean the grades

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called these containers, the implants.
When you come back it, they switch

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on the game. So the Grays
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But in this case the grades,
because it's the abduction programs we're talking

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about, they are able to then
detect you and monitor you a gang,

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so you're then automatically brought back into
these programs. So, you know,

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for the military, though I don't
think the military are so much jeopardies in

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them. There's more working with them. We know that the Grays and the

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military of you know, the deep
underground military basis, and they work often

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side by side and very much so
with many other races that don't have the

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best interests of human beings at heart. A lot of these projects and programs

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go back before biblical times. You
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place of interest for a lot of
these you know, negative if you want

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racist, they have a lot of
they have a lot of isness in these

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places. You know, they do
human trafficking. You know that we've got

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the body parts that are associated with
these type of beings. You know,

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the rabbit goes really deep, and
some people don't want to see what's down

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that rabbit or because some of it's
not very nice. But on the flip

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side of the Quinn, there are
positive beings here as well that are interested

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and very much concerned with our wealth, spiritual welfare. And you know,

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eventually you'll see much more of these, you know, as we push out

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the negative ones you know as the
vibration, planetary vibration, and each one

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of us our energy fields increase,
become much more lighter and vibrant. You'll

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see more of these beings, you
know, as I was told outside the

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body to push them out of the
earth with frequency, you know, from

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the heart, I guess from a
higher frequency, because you know, some

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of these type of beings can't stay
within that energy. So you know,

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this is how we were how we
will move forward, I guess, mhm,

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yeah. When the the men in
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how was that for you? You
know, when did you first notice that

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you were being observed by by humans? You know in the men in black

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phenomen the many the man in Black
happened for me after the the entity that

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we see in the school all me
and Sean so sewn. On this particular

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I was in the house alone on
this particular night. My parents were would

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have being in the garage which would
have been adjacent to the house. They

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were actually laying tiles, floor tiles, and Seawn was with them at the

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time when I was in the house
on my own in the kitchen and I

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observed, you know, I didn't
know what it was back then. I

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observed this strange looking man staring at
me in the other room, dressed fully

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in black, and you know,
it was just at the time, just

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watching me. I don't know if
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I do talk about this in the
book and how I felt, and you

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know, it goes into much more
detail in there. But there are there

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have been other times that I've had, you know, other experiences with the

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MIBs, you know, outside of
the body. So you know, as

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I explained to people a lot of
my abductions that I went on to have

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through my life where outside of the
body, you know, the grays can

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take you. They can force your
you know, your your e feric body

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or your astral body outside, they
can move it outside. You know,

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some of the abductions that have happened
in especially in the United States, on

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loan roads, you know, people
driving in the middle of the night or

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feel the need to get up and
go drive in somewhere, then encounter a

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ship you know, you have the
you know, the grays, and sometimes

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you have a beam of light that
comes from these craft, you know,

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often often hitting the driver or passenger, and then they feel that they're moving

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through the glass. You know,
this is an out of body experience where

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they're forced to come out of their
body and then they experienced that missing time

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and then they're suddenly back in their
body driving on a road, maybe in

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the wrong direction. You know that
this was often the case, you know,

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back in the sixties and seventies,
maybe the fifties of them, but

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we didn't really understand them what that
type of technology was. You know.

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I think we're becoming much more aware
now. You know, we a lot

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of us know what out of body
experiences are. I'm a natural projector so

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in my me lab projects, I
would come under an astraut operative that are

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used, you know, for various
activities outside of the body. You know,

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some people have natural abilities and that, and I think we can all.

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But as I stress, doesn't make
me special in any way, shape

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or form. You know, some
people say to me, well, Michael,

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you're special, You've been chosen.
Let me just clarify. I don't

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feel that I'm special, and I
don't feel chosen because a lot, as

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I said, a lot of my
experiences are not good, have not been

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good. And although I do have
a natural ability to do certain things,

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every one of us can do that. It's just learning how to do it

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again, that's all. Like remote
viewing. Everyone could do that. Everyone

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can travel outside the body. It's
just a case of learning. I mean,

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we do it when we're sleeping.
You know, this is where dreams

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come from. It's just that we
remember them a lot of the time with

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symbols. You know everyone you know, even if you come outside your body

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and you're in your immediate location above
your just floating above your body or in

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the you know, in the room
where you are. But you can obviously

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travel outside through the roof, you
know where the walls and fly around your

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locations, or you know, enter
through portals into other dimensions. And everyone

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can do it. But there are
some locations you're not allowed to go.

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It's just not allowed to go to
them. But you'll know once you get

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to them, and where you can
and can't what you can and can't do.

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Do you think that some of this
phenomena, whether it's my lab or

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whether it's abduction, because I'm sure
you're aware. I mean, I don't

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know all of your story, but
like you know, whenever these things happen,

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you're not really cognitive in the moment. It's almost like you're drunk or

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whatever, like a little bit.
It's just like you you remember it afterwards,

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like you know what I'm saying,
So you remember it the next day

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or a dream or day javu,
something happens. Do you think that this

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could be a type of the phenomena
where people talk about having these downloads where

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like they're all automatically they know all
of this stuff, like they're taken and

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trained in, whether it's on a
ship, whether it's in another dimension wherever

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a secret school. If you will
that you know, you don't get it

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just then. You don't wake up
knowing everything. Sometimes you do right but

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comes to you later like this epiphany, this download of knowledge that it seems

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like it's instant, but you were
being taught while you were asleep or taken

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off off world and taught. Well, a lot of the time, you

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know, that's correct what we're saying. I mean, a lot of the

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time we are, you know,
especially star seats. You know, there's

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a lot more star seats waking up
now. They're learning who they are and

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they're learning there ever they have,
you know, connected with the star systems.

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You know, they've been here before
a star seats. And we very

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much do get taken outside of the
body, you know, but you know,

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let's just move away a little bit
from the negative ones a minute,

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because let's go more into the positive
ones. So a lot of the positive

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stuff. If we do get moved
outside of the body, we do go

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to certain locations to be trained or
to be re educated in what we already

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know. It's a case of just
remembering. Really, I mean, we

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have we have this and their DNA, and I think it'll be much more

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apparent to star seeds as we go
on, you know, as we move

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forward into what would be you know, I guess a greater spiritual destiny for

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the Earth then what we've previously had. And when I think we reached that

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stage, it's not yet, but
when we do, we'll never go back.

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We'll never return to what we have
with what we were. You know,

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we just want to go further and
further and further. But yeah,

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we do get we do get uploads
and downloads and I mean, but if

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we return to the abduction stuff,
the abduction stuff's a little bit different.

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I mean, we do you know
some of my memories, as to say,

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my book then Mark and memories,
they're very clear and I do remember

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quite a lot, but there is
also fragmented memories. So it's like you

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might go to you might remember the
beginning or the end, you might meet

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in the middle, but very much. Yeah, there is fragmented memories as

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well. And you know, I
think there could be two reasons for that.

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I think one it could be natural
in that the mind is protecting us

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from you know, from trauma.
But I do also know, you know,

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with with the Grays especially and the
military, they create screen memories which

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are deliberately put in front of your
mind so that you're you, you know,

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you don't remember the full story,
so they're able to then to carry

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on with their insidious you know,
activities hidden the way in the dark.

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But the more that we speak about
this phenomena, the more that we you

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know, we we make people aware. So you know, so I'm as

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an abductee and a meal lab you
know, as I go on in my

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podcasts that I've been doing and hopefully, you know, some conferences. Maybe

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later on I will be I will
be more vocal in my my talks about

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the meal aand projects and programs,
and we'll be teaming up with other meal

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laps. I'm also an advocate at
the moment, as I said, of

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the mental and emotional side of this
type of phenomena and what happens to abductees.

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I'm very passionate about that and very
protective obviously, but not only of

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abductees. It's happening, you know, in the paranormal, is happening with

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crypt zoology. You know, there's
there's a whole lot of the phenomena.

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But you know, in the past
we separated it, didn't we We've put

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them in, you know, one
there and one day and one there.

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But now we know that this all
this phenomena is some way connected. It's

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all related to one another. And
so it's just doing the research really and

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trying to see what each one of
us. You know, each one of

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us old the puzzle. We hold
the jigs, you know the parts of

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the puzzle. I guess you know
yourself and many of the people listening.

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We hold valuable piece man. And
that's why these talks and this lessons are

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huge, you know, of just
talking. You know, so we're doing

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sharing stories and and you find out
that you're not alone. And that's one

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of the biggest things too. You
know, you're talking about being there for

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the people that are going through it. The simple fact of letting them know

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that they're not alone, you know
that they're that they're broken, or that

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they're you know, you know,
they don't have nobody to talk to about

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any of this stuff. So putting
yourself out there strategically even it works wonders

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for helping people. And I love
I love being able to do that.

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And you know, hear the responses
back from some of the stuff that I

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do. Like I even recently,
I had an amazing connection that I made.

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So I do music as well,
So I do spiritual rap, and

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I put a lot of the stuff
in my music. So I put a

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lot of I talk about UFOs and
you know, all everything in there.

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And so I just put out a
new song recently and in it I just

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mentioned it in passing. I said, some people like the party gets to

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date it to the long gone me. I hunt for UFOs and filming with

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my cell phone and I just threw
it in there and I just kept it

411
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,720
moving, you know, and then
and I do it intentionally. It's a

412
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,519
cool little verse, but I'm like, I really that's what I do.

413
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:16,720
I have fun doing it, and
you know, contact me if you do

414
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:21,839
too to listen to that. Yeah, I'll send it to you. But

415
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:27,559
there was a guy who heard it
and in Canada who has been having encounters

416
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:32,279
his whole life and filming them and
all types of things, and he doesn't

417
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:36,599
have anybody to talk to, like
he doesn't he doesn't have any friends,

418
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:40,799
he doesn't have people online, which
we're working to make this normal, right,

419
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:45,119
to make this where everybody doesn't you
don't feel weird to talk about your

420
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,440
experiences. And so it was so
cool because he reached out to me.

421
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,880
I have a lot of people reaching
out, too many people to reach out

422
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,799
that I can talk to. That's
why we need more people in this.

423
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,759
But he reached out and I wrote
him back and we got to talking and

424
00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:05,240
he is like, man, I
didn't know there was anybody else who goes

425
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,559
out and does it. So it's
just so awesome to be able to strategically

426
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,480
even through a song lyric, you
know, or through a podcast you know

427
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:14,839
what I'm saying, just help help
people, to let them know that you

428
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,920
know, that they're not alone.
It really does speak volumes and to tell

429
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,319
them like there is a time to
talk about it and when not to talk

430
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,200
about it right on the podcast.
Let's talk about it at the dinner table

431
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:30,680
for Thanksgiving maybe not, you know, and that's where people get put in

432
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:37,000
the institutions and get black labeled by
the family. And we need to be

433
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:39,720
there for those people and still be
able to teach how to you know,

434
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,359
zip it when you need to.
There is a time to talk about football,

435
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,519
to talk about your job or something. Right. But yeah, it's

436
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:52,839
really helping people, it's very much. Yeah, I truly agree with what

437
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,160
you said. And music's a great
way of doing it, you know,

438
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,799
and because the people like to listen
to music. But when you're putting that

439
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,359
in, it could be also you
know, like this guy could be oh

440
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,119
wait, wow, you know,
maybe could reach out to this guy,

441
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,159
this guy and make no some that
you can touch him. And this is

442
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,159
what's happened. I maybe you're going
to get a lot more of that.

443
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,280
It's a it's a wonderful way to
do it. Congratulations to you on that,

444
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Yeah, it's awesome. Just any
art, you know, and this

445
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:21,239
is an art. Conversation is an
art, you know, extracting questions out

446
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,280
of out of people that they haven't
talked about, you know what I'm saying,

447
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,599
Like writing a book, all of
this is ways to get the information

448
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,920
out. And especially music too,
Like there's so many people that came before

449
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:37,239
us who like that wasn't their thing, like the only thing they were known

450
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,199
for. But there where you know, David Bowie has the song Starman,

451
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,320
like there's a lot of stuff sprinkled
throughout. I know, I'm an Incubist

452
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:51,880
fan, the band Incubist, and
he talks about I'm counting UFOs and I

453
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,360
signaled them with my lighter and in
this moment, I'm happy. It's little

454
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,159
bitty things that are like just that
song is not about UFOs, but it's

455
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:02,559
just sprinkled in there to be like
maybe you know something that you know,

456
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,920
but you know what though, you
know, as a musician yourself, you

457
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,400
must I was talking about this the
other day about musicians. Musicians do seem

458
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:19,920
to have a high level of you
know, interest in this, in these

459
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,360
subjects, or they have you know, when you get to talk to them,

460
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,480
they have their own experiences about it. So so you know, there's

461
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:32,159
the music and you know it has
an importance in this field, and I

462
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,119
think you know, and I think
like people like yourself, you'll be able

463
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:44,480
to push that forward much more profoundly. Yeah, and mine is all that.

464
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:46,000
So it's kind of niche, like, Okay, I'm not doing somethings

465
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,599
about women and all that, like
all my stuff is about spirituality. But

466
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:55,719
it is cool too when when you
see a celebrity, a mainstream person song

467
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,559
and there's there's so much out there, it's really cool too. And it's

468
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:07,440
probably it's maybe just a one liner, but it's something deeper is there.

469
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,480
And there's so many that helped that
helped me because that I didn't you know,

470
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:17,159
to listen to those songs and and
there's there's pieces of the puzzle that

471
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:22,280
are sprinkled out. You know,
it's out there. But do you feel

472
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,280
sometimes when you're when you're writing the
music, do you feel sometimes you're being

473
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,440
channeled you're channeling? Yeah? Do
you feel like sometimes it's just flowing and

474
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:36,760
sometimes it's not coming from you or
maybe it's coming from an eye aspect of

475
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,519
you, like your oversaw. Yeah, for sure, especially in hindsight,

476
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,360
like after the fact it's out and
I'm like, you know, there's no

477
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,280
way. I like, that's too
good, like because it's weird, because

478
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,880
it speaks to me. It's like
someone else even speaking to me personally.

479
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,400
You know, Hey, you're not
alone. Great things are coming. You

480
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,920
know what I'm saying, don't give
up. It's one one thing to speak

481
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,800
it to people, but it's something
that's God. You know, it's the

482
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,119
universe echoing it to us. So
to be a part of that, to

483
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:12,119
be a conduit for that, you
know what I'm saying, That energy,

484
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:17,920
that hope, that creativity is priceless. But yeah, I definitely I'll tell

485
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,079
you this. This is what I've
been experiencing lately as because there's power in

486
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:27,719
writing, even the books and all
of that. I'll write some stuff about

487
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,440
my experiences and about my beliefs one
way, and it may be very surface

488
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:35,880
level, but it sounds deep and
profound. But for me, I just

489
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,559
meant something in passing and then I
recorded write it, put it out.

490
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:45,960
It goes out into the atmosphere people
saying it right. And then later like

491
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:52,039
those same lyrics, I experienced them
at a way deeper level of like a

492
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:57,519
dimension if you will, Like you
know, I'm meant it at the surface,

493
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:00,719
but then I experienced it time ten. You know that that I didn't

494
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,880
even know was like really possible.
So that's been interesting to write something created

495
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,519
and then it comes back, you
know, to visit you at a deeper

496
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:15,320
level. You know. Have you
always had that? Have you always had

497
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:22,039
this feeling to to you know,
to be creative in this way? Yeah,

498
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,360
but you know, we just we
don't know that we can kind of

499
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,440
work with the universe, you know
what I'm saying, to create something to

500
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,400
put it. It was just like
you know, being expressive, and then

501
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,280
the things come back, your words
come back to visit you. You know,

502
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,280
as you think, as you speak, you're creating. It's a part

503
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,000
of the magical beings that we are. But yeah, once you know,

504
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:49,519
like hold on, it's a thing. You can experiment with it and get

505
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,880
better at it. That's when it
gets interesting. It's very much like what

506
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:59,280
the archangels say, there is about
your you knows as being a human being

507
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,480
was to a human being for us
to make those choices, you know,

508
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:07,199
we we have a choice and how
we want to present ourselves and how we

509
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:13,079
want, you know, as conduct
as you know, mediums to focus this

510
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,920
energy through us for other people to
experience it, you know, and and

511
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,639
for a lot of us, you
know, like yourself and others listening.

512
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,000
We choose to do it in a
positive way to help others, you know,

513
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,639
and to heal ourselves and others and
to educate others. But you know,

514
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,199
but as a collective consciousness, but
individuals doing it. But we are

515
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,760
a collective consciousness as well, that
we are all experiencing this together and we

516
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,960
all want really, you know,
I think a lot of us now are

517
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:46,079
on the same page. We all
want the same things. We don't want

518
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:52,000
this control by endowments and you know, and then telling us what we need

519
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:54,320
or what's good for us. You
know, we're spiritual beings. We're adults

520
00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:02,440
where where you know where to some
degree immortal, you know, And you

521
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,760
know, I eventually I will talk
about immortality as well. And you know

522
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:15,280
I am a I am an alchemist
from you know, which continues on through

523
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:22,280
through bloodlines. You know. But
the military seek, especially in these projects,

524
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,079
you know, they're very much interested
in trans trans humanism, so you

525
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:35,719
know, using eye official intelligence and
the biology to create immortal beings, but

526
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:40,199
you know, they because they can't
reach the true essence of immortality. You

527
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,320
know, it goes through and through
initiations for a process that you have to

528
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,920
follow, and a lot of the
time it goes from lifetime to lifetime.

529
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:58,039
But everyone, human beings, everyone
has the ability to achieve this, and

530
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:01,159
and they're very much helped outside the
body, you know what we're what you

531
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:06,119
were saying, you know, do
we go to these locations there? We

532
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:09,280
do, we go to these locations. But the more spiritual way you become,

533
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,000
the much more help you'll get in
doing this, you know, because

534
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:19,559
of the beings outside of the body, they want you to have this knowledge.

535
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,960
And why shouldn't you have you know, of divine essence? And why

536
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:29,079
wouldn't Why wouldn't we want to have
that to better ourselves than our world and

537
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:32,760
and the environment around us. We
don't need, we don't need all the

538
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,719
other stuff, thank you very much. Yep. And that's that's always been

539
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:44,000
the trick. These are you know, these these are cycles and yeah,

540
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:49,920
and and respiraling and the spiral repeats
and we've seen this all before. This

541
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:55,039
isn't nothing. There's nothing new under
the sun. The people spirits don't die,

542
00:41:55,519 --> 00:42:00,320
you know, they're just reborn and
put into a different best if you

543
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:06,920
will, the whole reincarnation thing or
now you know, there is certain things

544
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,079
that that die, you know,
and get cast off, and it's usually

545
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:14,119
the dark stuff. That's from my
study, in my research and really the

546
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:19,800
biblical and ancient text, it's like
the wicked, the dark souls that sin

547
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,480
against humanity, like they they get
deleted at some point. So hence this

548
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,719
so called transhumanism thing of like,
hey, we don't want to die because

549
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,400
we're probably not coming back kind of
thing, so let's tap into immortality here,

550
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,119
and you know, maybe yeah,
they exactly. I mean with the

551
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:43,079
transhumanism projects though they've you know,
they've created artificial worlds really, but they

552
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,960
need souls to inhabit those, you
know, to go to those worlds.

553
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,039
But like you said, they're not
they're not planning on kind that way.

554
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,320
They're not planning and going into the
like that they want that, so they

555
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,800
have to create their own artificial worlds
where but of course in order to do

556
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,320
that, they have to live somehow. So that's why I agree in this

557
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,960
technology and you know, they've got
very very advanced technology. You know,

558
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:13,400
civilians have no idea what technology they
have. It's way way beyond what they

559
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,360
think that we what we possess.
I mean with a lot of the technology,

560
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:21,800
which is alien technology as well.
They've got technology that could change the

561
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,360
world pretty quick. They could change
the environment, they could get rid of

562
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:30,320
home listeners, they could help people
that are struggling with their mental health emotionally

563
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,599
with diseases. But they're worthholding it
this technology. But whilst we're doing these

564
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:42,519
podcasts with your music and other musicians
and people awakening, you know, we

565
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:46,159
can do something about this. Yeah, we think that, you know,

566
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:52,519
the government should should help and should
or the churches you know what I'm saying,

567
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,840
should help, but they they're not
and they don't. You know,

568
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,039
it's like the ball is in our
hands because we're waiting for help. But

569
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:05,559
you are. You are the help, Like you are the help that everybody's

570
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,239
looking for to tap in to.
Remember like you said, sure, remember

571
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:15,440
the ancient healing technologies, the ancient
tones and frequencies that that delete depression.

572
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:19,480
You know what I'm saying, like
all of that and it's available and it's

573
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:22,159
coming back to us. We're having
dreams of this. We're being taught this,

574
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,039
but you know, we're all we're
waiting, like, why doesn't the

575
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:28,760
church pick it up? Why doesn't
the government teach this in school? Why

576
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,320
don't they teach about nutrition? And
why they only treat disease and not help

577
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,440
prevent it. You know, these
kind of things, and you can see

578
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,159
it because you're supposed to be the
one to step up and do it.

579
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:42,760
They're not going to do it.
They're in it for profit and really don't

580
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,760
care about you. You know,
they don't know, they don't you're right,

581
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,000
I mean that, you know,
the churches. I mean this is

582
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:52,800
not to say I mean there are
good people in churches and individuals, but

583
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,440
a lot of the time, you
know, again they caught up in the

584
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:59,920
in the the deception. They don't
really know. They think they're doing good.

585
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,000
You know, they do their own
good in their own ways. Overall

586
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:07,320
for the you know, for the
establishments or those yeah, as good as

587
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,960
they can, they do good.
Some people do good, but the overall,

588
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,840
the overall establishments they don't care.
I mean, they don't want to

589
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,000
help people wait in that base.
That's not it's not what they want.

590
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,679
You know, they'll lose out on
lots of stuff. If they do that,

591
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,840
so then it's you know, so
then it's us as communities to come

592
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:30,840
together and to build, you know, a new world for ourselves. I

593
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,559
mean, we're using ancient knowledge and
you know, in some degree in some

594
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:42,559
aspects of you know, spiritual technology, and you know, and technology is

595
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:45,159
just a piece really of you know, equipment. It can be used either

596
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:49,239
way, can't it to help or
to hinder, you know. But for

597
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,440
us, we want to help.
We want to you know, we want

598
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:58,159
to you know, create something beautiful, something better for for all of us,

599
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,480
you know. And if they don't
want to be part of that,

600
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:05,079
and let them go off into their
own city of little worlds and if they're

601
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:07,840
you know, do whatever is what
they want to do there and leave us

602
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,440
to it. Yeah. Yeah,
as long as I'm here, as long

603
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,840
as I have access, I'm gonna
try my best and encourage others to do

604
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,400
the same. And it is working. There is no trying, you know,

605
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,039
It's like Yoda, there is no
try, just do it man and

606
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:22,800
more. Yeah, of course,
yeah, yeah, that's the right,

607
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,639
that's the way forward. But I
think that you were saying about frequencies,

608
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:30,760
there's going to be a lot more
about frequencies coming out as we go forward,

609
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,719
you know, and for somebody like
yourself, that's going to be amazing

610
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,039
as well. Oh yeah, No, I'm already experimenting with it in my

611
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:42,159
music and you know, creating meditation
music and things like that, and really

612
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:45,840
experimented with it in my life first
so that I can Yeah, you know,

613
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,880
I can't just read a book or
whatever. How can we practice this?

614
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:52,760
How can I How can I,
you know, be a scientist to

615
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,400
get results, like you know of
healing of growth. Even there's so much

616
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,159
out there man, that all the
technology, it's there, and it's natural.

617
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,280
It's natural, it's in the it's
in you know. You said that

618
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:14,880
once you once you can like see
more, believe more, be trusted with

619
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,239
more, then more's given to you
and and they'll work with you more and

620
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,159
in different ways, right, the
good ones, even in the bad ones

621
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:27,719
too. The more darker you become, the more dark energy they're gonna call

622
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,880
upon you to create in the world. But you start to see I say,

623
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,000
there hand or the hand of God, whatever you want to call it.

624
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,400
You start to see it in everything. So it's not just in the

625
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,719
ship, you know what I'm saying, Because most of the time, you

626
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,679
can't even see a ship, so
you've got to be able to feel or

627
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,440
hear or whatever. So there is
a little bit. Now you've got to

628
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:52,760
practice. Okay, I feel something's
going on. I hear ringing in my

629
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:58,239
ears. That tone that I've been
experimenting with it. It's in my ear

630
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,559
every morning from five to six am, and then it goes away. What

631
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,199
is it? And it's up for
you to experiment and research and find out

632
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,320
what it is and get good at
it, and then you can share and

633
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,480
teach others how to do it.
And it's in everything that we look at.

634
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:21,719
And that's been the most profound and
fun thing for me lately, because

635
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:25,519
in our minds we have certain things
that are like this is this is where

636
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:28,559
they are. This is the cool
part. The cool part is when a

637
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:30,280
ship comes down. Well, if
a ship comes down a good guy,

638
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,559
they might get shot shot down,
and so they can't speak to you that

639
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,199
way, but they are they are
in tune with the animals. They are

640
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:44,519
in tune with the insects. So
learn to speak their language. Hey,

641
00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:49,960
that's where I've been, you know, doing that and allowing the animals and

642
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,880
the birds and the wind and the
water and everything the elements to teach you,

643
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:58,440
and that's been next level and not
looking at it as something mundane or

644
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,880
that's just a bird, or that's
just the wind. No, no,

645
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:04,440
no, yeah, yeah, I
agree totally with you. You know,

646
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,599
I'm on the same page as you
with all that. And I think pretty

647
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:12,519
much that most of the people are
you know, are really that listening to

648
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:16,159
your music, that are listening to
you know what we're what we're talking about.

649
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,559
You know, we want the same
thing. You know, we're learning

650
00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:27,480
and we're opening our hearts to a
better understanding of ourselves and what's better for

651
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,440
for our world. I mean the
powers that be, you know that they

652
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:35,519
don't have the same interests as us
as for the planet. You know,

653
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:37,559
they want to hold it back.
They want it for themselves. You know,

654
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,239
when you have a new wave of
energy or not a new wave of

655
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,920
an ancient wave of energy resurfacing on
this planet, you know it's going to

656
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,800
be hard for them to stop that. Yeah, it's it's because the thing

657
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,039
is, you know, the every
every every now and again, like you

658
00:49:55,039 --> 00:50:00,800
said, we have these waves of
energy and we you know, we experienced

659
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:07,239
this and the planetary body itself evolves, even if we don't actually see it,

660
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,239
it does evolve. You know,
they're stopping what they're doing is stopping

661
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,639
natural law. So if the planet
is ready to evolve, and you know,

662
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:21,519
not everyone, but a greater part
hopefully of the Earth of human beings

663
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,960
evolved with that energy, you know
that there's going to be other beings out

664
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,480
there that won't be too happy about
that. The Earth itself won't be happy

665
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:32,519
about that, because you know,
they want to go to the next level,

666
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,599
you know. So I think what
we're looking at though, eventually is

667
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:43,519
pretty much checkmate for a lot of
these darker energies that have existed for a

668
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:47,519
long time here. It's time now
to you know, to knock them off

669
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:54,280
the board so that we can continue
our own spiritual destiny. You know.

670
00:50:54,360 --> 00:51:00,800
But going forward, when always said
and done, I think, you know,

671
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:06,239
we've got a great future. Yeah. Yeah, we have to be

672
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,280
the ones to override that narrative,
you know, because it's just a belief.

673
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,840
It's just you know, whatever you
believe, you receive. If you

674
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,960
believe that's there's negativity coming and it's
about the end, and your energy is

675
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,199
going to project, you're going to
project it out of you, because that's

676
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:25,280
how powerful you are. And if
you have negative enough platform or loud enough

677
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,199
mouth, you'll get others to believe
you. There's negativity there, but negativity

678
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:35,280
doesn't necessarily mean the end game negativity
is. Oh see, there's always you

679
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,719
know, different forces opposed in one
another. But it's how you deal with

680
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,280
that and what we can do with
it because we're having you know, because

681
00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:46,880
for instance, you know, you're
having I've had lots of dark stuff happening

682
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,920
to me. I still do,
but and there is a butt I choose

683
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,599
not to allow it to take me
over. I have the choice to say

684
00:51:54,639 --> 00:51:59,599
no to it, you know,
to rise above it to help others.

685
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:02,159
And that's what I'm doing for my
books and from my thoks, you know,

686
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:08,480
and meeting like minded people I think
sometimes sole families like yourself. You

687
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:13,880
know, we're all coming together now
for the same reasons and enough's enough.

688
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,039
Yeah, yeah, very much.
So. Yeah, I'm you know,

689
00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:22,079
it's hard to be hopeful sometimes,
but I totally am. You know,

690
00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:25,440
you have to be. I've been
both, and that's how you know that

691
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:30,840
you can choose right now. You
can experiment with it. If you've expected

692
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,360
bad stuff, if you've done bad
stuff. If you've expected good stuff and

693
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,119
you've done good stuff, then you
know that, Okay, I can choose,

694
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,039
you know, to bring something beautiful
to this world. You know,

695
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,519
we can take the dark, we
can take dark energys experiences. We can

696
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:52,360
then you know, we can take
the good stuff from the bad. What

697
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:57,239
we've learned from that, you know, the knowledge and the wisdom, and

698
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,159
then we can use that as a
choice to make better decisions, so we

699
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:06,880
don't have to follow their bloody narrative. You know, we can. You

700
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,599
know, we can do a lot
good and I mean each one of us,

701
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:13,679
you know, as human beings,
we do have these universal traits.

702
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,119
We have universal experiences and that's often
especially with music, that's what brings us

703
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:22,679
together as you know, as one. Yeah, and I don't think they

704
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,880
have that there a lot of these
other races don't have that. Human beings

705
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:34,239
are unique and a lot of the
planetary bodies and even multi dimensional we are

706
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:40,239
unique in what we can do and
also in our future potential to do better,

707
00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:45,920
you know, much better than I
guess a lot of other planetary bodies.

708
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,159
We just are, you know,
we're very we are very close to

709
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,119
you know what, if you want
to quit God or creation or the creator.

710
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:59,679
We have a we have a you
know, we have a good relationship.

711
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,239
Should we say with that with the
creator with the creative energy? M

712
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,199
hm. You know, so as
each one of us, you know,

713
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,559
each one of us are again we'll
look into too good. We're looking to

714
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:17,159
do something that's really really special.
Yep, it hits different. I always

715
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:21,840
say it hits different when we do
it. You know, there's one and

716
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:25,679
that's that's the power of a narrative. Like I don't think that they have

717
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,039
any power really, you know,
but they can. Like the true power

718
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:36,000
is to convince us that they do, yeah, and then to get us

719
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:38,599
to voice their narrative, you know
what I'm saying. And there's a lot

720
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:43,119
of people who do that. As
far as like the end of the world

721
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,639
scenarios, evil is there's only evil
in this world is cursed, this world

722
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,639
is negative, there's only demons run
it. No, let's you know,

723
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,719
there's a portion in parts of it. But yeah, but like how about

724
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:59,199
if you change your wording, there's
parts that that angels run too. You

725
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,639
know, there's there's things and it
depends on what you're focusing on. And

726
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:07,679
then when you say it you create
it, and they do have. I

727
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:09,079
mean, there is evil in the
world. We know this, you know,

728
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:13,599
we see it every day, you
know, and there's evil that exists

729
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:21,360
outside of a lot of the boundaries
of you know what I'm saying every general

730
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,360
public exactly. But but what you're
saying is, yeah, it's true.

731
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,639
I mean, you know there is
that, but there's the other side.

732
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,519
I'm not putting my head in the
saying and say that all that know,

733
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:35,159
everything's happening right now, and then
you have to choose what you want to

734
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:37,519
bring in or what you want to
focus on. And what you're saying is

735
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:42,559
correct. They want us, they
do have some sort of power over over

736
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:45,079
people, but that's not the end. That's not the end of the story

737
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,159
that they want you to think they
got more over you. The bottom line

738
00:55:50,199 --> 00:56:07,880
is the using technology, but it's
not the end game within the world where

739
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:16,840
we're still we're still going to win. Yeah you kind of you just kind

740
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:22,760
of breaking up there, But I
did hear what you technology technology to control.

741
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,639
But we're still going to win,
and that's that's what we need to

742
00:56:25,679 --> 00:56:30,840
know. But yeah, they exactly, you know, they they have technology.

743
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,159
I mean even with the me like
projects and programs and the you know,

744
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:36,639
you had the Montop project and the
Monarch project, and there's so many

745
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:39,920
projects you know to name here,
but a lot of the time it is

746
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,719
you know, they do use technology
in a way that can control human mind

747
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,840
and human being. It does work. But as we said before, going

748
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,880
back to you know, what I
described as source code, this is something

749
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,639
that they're looking for in Star Seats. They can't find it. They will

750
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:06,079
never find it. That's another show
in itself. But and they want us

751
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:08,519
to think that we are less than
what we are, that we don't know

752
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:13,159
nothing, that we can't control their
own destinies, that we you know,

753
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:16,360
that they need to lead us by
the hand as their slaves and stuff.

754
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,519
But it's nothing could be further from
the truth. And I think as we

755
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:25,920
go forward, everyone that's awakening will
becoming aware, especially star Seats you know,

756
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,280
that have their you know, they
have their mission objectives to do here

757
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,760
from the creator. And you know, people will see more and more.

758
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:44,400
Now this is all smoke and mirrors. We human beings individually as a collective

759
00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:50,400
have so much more power, you
know, and and choice to do better

760
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,159
and not to you know, it's
not to put up with their rubbish regardless,

761
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,519
you know, I mean, you
know, we've all suffered in some

762
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:04,480
way, shape or form in our
lives and you know, but again it

763
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:08,719
doesn't mean that we have to be
angry or bitter. We can do we

764
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:14,760
can be better. Yeah, try
to make you better, but we've grown

765
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:20,079
better. Man. Hey, I've
enjoyed this talk. Man. Where can

766
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:24,639
people go to find out? You
know, get your book and and you

767
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:29,559
know, find out more about what
you got going on. And my books

768
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:34,239
available as usual on Amazon. It's
on paperback, i'd cover, it's on

769
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,320
audio, and it's on Kindle and
kindleell unlimited. But you can reach me

770
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:43,039
on my email if you want to
reach out to me. It's Michael Cameron

771
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:51,440
lower Keys twenty twenty three at gmail
dot com. And also, you know,

772
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,519
you can find me on the Amazon
itself, got my own site on

773
00:58:54,559 --> 00:59:00,519
their author's page. You can tap
onto and to see any updates on there

774
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:07,280
of any future projects that will be
doing coming up. Or you can find

775
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:12,079
me on Facebook, which is Michael
Cameron when that's Cameron with a K,

776
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,239
and you can reach out to me
on there if you if you want to

777
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:22,639
to have a chat or to share
experiences hecky. Well, guys, make

778
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:25,239
sure you check in with him.
Check out his work. Go to his

779
00:59:28,199 --> 00:59:32,119
Kindle Amazon page follow his work there. You can follow and get the updates

780
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:36,760
and all that good stuff. Check
out his book there and appreciate it.

781
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,599
Man, Thanks for coming on and
keep doing what you're doing. Man,

782
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,960
you know, share your story and
you know, a little goes a long

783
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,679
way. I'd like to listen to
some of your music, yeah, man,

784
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:54,159
just type in Truth Seeker on any
platform and the newest that song,

785
00:59:54,679 --> 01:00:05,559
the newest one is called I Can't
Unspeakable is the new EP. It's four

786
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:09,320
songs, but that one song of
we shot a music video for it's it's

787
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:15,679
a cool video, but it's called
Lonely Road and it just talks about feeling

788
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,159
walking this road, feeling like it's
lonely, but we're not alone. And

789
01:00:19,199 --> 01:00:21,760
we got friends in high classes,
we got friends with us, you know.

790
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,400
But it's even though it feels lonely, we're not alone kind of thing.

791
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,679
And yeah, but I've done that. I've done so many songs over

792
01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:36,480
the years that just talk about all
of this phenomena, you know, summoning

793
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:40,679
UFOs and dream state stuff, astral
projection, you know, all the fun

794
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:45,760
stuff and the and the dark stuff
too. We talk about the demons and

795
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,480
the you know, the wicked government
and all that kind of stuff. So

796
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,480
check it out, man, for
sure. It's it's like a music for

797
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:58,840
the movement. It's a soundtrack for
spirituality. I love that. Hey,

798
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,880
I enjoyed it, man, Yes, thank you and thank you. Speak

799
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,880
to you later, blessing and to
you bye.