WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.519 This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The show is sponsored by 2 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:07.839 G three of Peril. The views expressed in the following program are those of 3 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:13.240 the sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of sevent ten wo r or iHeartMedia. 4 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.239 Who is Mark Webber. He's a self made business executive here to help you 5 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:23.960 find your success, from the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in 6 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:29.239 Paris. His global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational. 7 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:35.840 He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic proof that the American 8 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:40.920 dream is alive and well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark 9 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:47.600 Webber Weber. I'm nauseous being nice. I'm sick of being sweet. Yeah, 10 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:51.640 I've been nice and sweet for too long a period of time and extended 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:56.079 time over the last few weeks. I'm disgusted with myself. There's been too 12 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.600 much talk about family, fatherhood, doing the right thing. Not only can 13 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:06.159 I take it any more, I'm exhausted making believe I'm one with the human 14 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:11.840 race. Even got criticism from it this week. Who are you? This 15 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.159 is not we expect on the show. I've made it clear I don't like 16 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.599 humans. But I have to get back to center, where the real world 17 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:22.840 is. I've tried nice, it doesn't work for me. I've tried to 18 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:26.560 give advice, but I get angry eyes and response. I've been criticized. 19 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:32.000 I've been told I lost my way. Imagine taking crap for being a good 20 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:37.200 guy. I've been surrounded by a wonderful month of events. I got to 21 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:40.159 be the man, a father, a family man, a friend to old 22 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:46.280 friends or friends, to family friends or just people I like. I made 23 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.840 three speeches from the heart. Big mistake, thinking an audience as a heart 24 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.200 let alone heart felt. What an idiot. Once again, I'm a fool. 25 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.480 Now. I have reasons, many for the sweet version of Mark Webber. 26 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:04.560 The last few weeks beautiful occasions, wonderful times, places, events, 27 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:10.120 but it's spilled over into beyond the family speeches to whomever. I'm speeched out, 28 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:15.639 talked out, explained out, reasoned out. It's a nice guy over 29 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:20.439 and out. I'm done. I'm finished. I'm back. The radio show 30 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:24.520 and the podcast is a chronology of these times and events. But terrible being 31 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:30.280 the good Swede Mark Webber. Yeah, I'm nauseous with myself. Truth is 32 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:35.240 what adds to the revulsion I'm feeling. There's people the reaction to me. 33 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:39.520 One person I was told I don't know who it was said thirty two minutes 34 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:45.520 of talking. I hated from beginning to end. That was the reaction to 35 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:50.159 my wedding speech. I know, if you don't know someone personally, you 36 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.599 don't take it personally. But the feedback from workers, the lack of sense 37 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:58.759 of humor, the stupidity, the backup morons and text to the studio to 38 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:05.400 LinkedIn complaining I have to get back on point now. If you're not interested 39 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:08.280 in this stuff, I guess I should leave it to Joel Olstein or Billy 40 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:15.599 Graham Junior. I got soft. What a waste of time expecting appreciation for 41 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.599 taking a moment in time. I'm a month to focus on sweet success. 42 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.719 What kind of fool am I? Who am I kidding? Now? I 43 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:28.000 suppose the exception of those that get it, there are some good people, 44 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:30.960 few and far between, I must say. But yet even within the type 45 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:36.360 family ranks there is some mutiny. But to be fair, there have been 46 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:40.680 beautiful moments, emotional thank you, tremendous showing of appreciation, thank you so, 47 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:46.280 and some missing thank yous. But I'm not done. I'm back. 48 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:53.479 I'm through it. Nice sweet, politically correct appreciation for mankind on search of 49 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:57.039 kindness from the human race. I'm back, effort. I'm back on the 50 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.360 dock side. I knew I was right all along. I had a brain 51 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:03.520 freeze and I forgot about human nature. Humans don't like them, and it's 52 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:09.400 for a reason why bother with good? When war is accepted, illegal is 53 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:14.120 legal, crime is everywhere, lying is the norm. The current administration spins 54 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:19.839 everything, even if the timing for sharing disasters is orchestrated. Outrageous politicians are 55 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:25.560 outraged when they're caught. Scandal everywhere, No leadership, no answers, no 56 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:30.120 solutions. F you to all of you that make jokes about the submarine imploding 57 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.720 because it was those rich guys dyeing. I don't like humans. I do 58 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:40.480 find some good people amongst you, few and far between. But why was 59 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:45.399 I thinking? How can I possibly have forgotten that where we are a society 60 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:49.759 doesn't applaud the good. We worship the stupider. Yeah, I'm back and 61 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:55.639 now I'm comfortable again. Tonight, Let's talk to talk, walk to war, 62 00:04:55.800 --> 00:05:00.680 complain about everything this. Everyone be mean arrogant and nasty. Impossible, 63 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:04.639 that's the plan. Now joining me on the dark side my lawyer, my 64 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:09.279 son, and my co host Jesse Webber. I don't think I agreed to 65 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:12.560 go on the dark side, but for purposes of this exercise, let me 66 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:17.319 just say I like the softer side of you. Oh gosh, no, 67 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:21.040 No, they're not throwing anybody under the bus. Some people just commented on 68 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:26.560 some things that you have been saying in the last few weeks. I think 69 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.560 that's fair to comment on you. No, of course it's fair. However, 70 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.040 it never surprises me when people just don't get it. They don't get 71 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.199 me. Now you know. The truth is no, it's not okay. 72 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:41.800 I do good. A little thanks is in order, and certainly you don't 73 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.199 like the show, get your own. Let's see what you can do. 74 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.720 What I will flat out agree with it's time to move back to the real 75 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:54.199 world, because sweet and kind is just not who I am. One of 76 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.319 the shows that you did while I was out, I thought this is interesting. 77 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:01.360 It was in search of good news and you said only nice stories are 78 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:06.199 fluff pieces. I think that is so right. It's nonsense. Nonsense is 79 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:10.600 sometimes what sells. You don't really want to hear it. But that's it. 80 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:13.639 That's the only nice stories they actually put together on the news. I 81 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.839 think the last time I actually heard of not necessarily nonsense and not really a 82 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:23.240 fluff piece, but something that people were so fascinated with that wasn't politics or 83 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:28.399 war or the economy. It was the Johnny Depp amber heard trial. People 84 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:32.199 were like fascinated with that. They were fascinated with learning more about the Hollywood 85 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.759 lifestyle, learning about this couple. Yeah, because it's bad. It's the 86 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:41.199 dark side, two Hollywood types fighting it out in court. You've got three 87 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:45.399 billion viewers on the Lorn Crime Network on YouTube. Yeah, that's the dark 88 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.639 side. Yeah, the dirty laundry. It was a nasty case. And 89 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:53.000 then look, you talk about my profession. People love true crime. They 90 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:57.279 love murder, They love learning about these murder stories. I mean, it's 91 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.800 an attraction there. I sometimes don't get it. You know, there's some 92 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.759 stories that are compelling. Maybe it's a search for a missing person, maybe 93 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:08.399 it's a search to find out who did something. But there's like this fascination 94 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:11.759 with true crime. I think it's happened the last twenty years or so, 95 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.720 and it's just gotten even more with podcasts and TV shows. It's like good 96 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.199 versus evil. You're making the point humans want the dark side. By the 97 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:23.160 way, talking about your wedding speech and how everybody hated it, just for 98 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.680 the record, your speech at my wedding was for me and my wife right 99 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.439 because we loved it. What else does that matter? Great? Thank you? 100 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:34.199 Okay, So the Hilton comment not my favorite. You basically got up 101 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:38.319 there and told people how to dress and said if they don't know how to 102 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:42.360 dress, the Hilton's down the block. A little harsh considering that many of 103 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.480 the people at the wedding, these out of towners, were staying at the 104 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:51.279 Hilton. I think they should have a sense of human I frequent the Conrad. 105 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:55.639 It's a Hilton property. Nobody knows that you stay at the Conrad. 106 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:57.920 They thought you were making fun of them. They thought you were like above 107 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.319 them. What did I have a list of people with they stayed? It 108 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.199 was funny. Nobody gets it. Okay. Put aside the Hilton comment, 109 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.519 what about your comments on fat activists. You were talking about them. I 110 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.680 don't think that one any friends at the wedding, amongst those that night that 111 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:15.639 it might have been a little bit overweight. Hey, maybe I'm too hard 112 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.160 on myself. Maybe I've been on the dock side. Listen f them. 113 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.279 Also, I struggled with way throughout my life. I have a right to 114 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.519 comment, and I have a right to tell him the best exercises, pushing 115 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.920 away from the table, get a sense of humor, go on a diet 116 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:33.000 while you're certainly back the old Mark Webber's back. You know what pissed me 117 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:37.480 off more than anything. I was talking about being a father, okay, 118 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:43.840 and how important it was and my responsibilities. And I talked about Don Coleone 119 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.720 talking to Johnny Fontaine, and he goes, do you spend time with your 120 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.639 family? Of course I do. Well, that's good because any man that 121 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:58.120 doesn't spend time with his family can't be a real man. Crickets, no 122 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.679 lefts, no plause, nothing in just shows you that people are morons, 123 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:05.320 humans and morons. I'm not happy about it. That's what you're angry about 124 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:11.480 that you didn't get an applause for your Don Corleone impression. I'm upset. 125 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:16.320 I spent the last three weeks being a good guy, standing up for fatherhood, 126 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.759 standing up for doing the right thing, and all I got is criticism 127 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.919 and comments, no sense of human I'm nauseous with myself. That's tonight show. 128 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:30.000 I'm nauseous with being nice. But now I want to get back on 129 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:35.120 to the real world and make sure everybody knows that I haven't changed, that 130 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.519 I have no use for humans. By and large. Let's start with okay 131 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:41.080 with you. You want to get into this sol you want to be nice 132 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.000 tonight? Oh no, I find this interesting. Let's go okay. The 133 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:48.039 political situation i'd like to callest part of our conversation. I wish I was 134 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.279 a Democrat. I've said it before. I'm left on social issues, but 135 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.519 the Democrats, the Wolkes are taking to a point of view that's crazy. 136 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.879 Now all of a sudden, pizza is ruining the world. Don't charge your 137 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.399 car at night? What am I supposed to charge it in New York during 138 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:11.039 the day when there are no charging stations? I support climate change legislation, 139 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.879 but what about all these guys who are saying it and they're in their private 140 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.360 jets. Look, I have no problem flying private. I love it. 141 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:20.639 But I think you just should shut the up. If you're going to do 142 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.039 that, you know you have no right to talk about climate change. And 143 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:28.320 by the way, hooray for for Bill Maher pointing it out. The pizza 144 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.879 thing is ridiculous. Oh my goodness, the coal burning ovens pepperoni is going 145 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.720 to be the end of the world. I do not believe that this is 146 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:39.679 going to go down without a fight. I think people are going to protest. 147 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.279 I think this is gonna get ugly. No way, you're taking away 148 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.519 our pizzas from New York City. Not gonna happen. Yeah, No more 149 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.000 regular cars, only electric cars with no place to charge them, and no 150 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:54.639 plans for what to do with batteries and all the waste that's caused. Now 151 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.320 they're putting a tax on New York for anyone who drives into the city below 152 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.840 sixtieth Street. They're gonna do with that money. They think they're gonna stop 153 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.000 people coming from the city. The people who drive into the city can afford 154 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.080 to him. By the way, what about all the lubers, and what 155 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.639 about all the taxis and what about all this? What is this nonsense? 156 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.879 It's not bad enough that they closed off half the lanes of Manhattan. These 157 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.080 people don't know what they're doing. I can't believe it. Yeah, I 158 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:24.159 wish I was a Democrat. The Democrats the evil They're street fighters. Go 159 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:30.440 figure, they lie with no conscience. Nancy Pelosi is so tough, so 160 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.519 arrogant. I respect her. I love what she did to Trump during the 161 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.519 State of the Union address. What a street fighter. The only problem is 162 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.559 it's not a single thing she stands for that I agree with. But what 163 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:48.720 a woman. And Adam Shift Shift, the Adam Shift strange looking guys whatever 164 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.279 he is congressman wants to be a Senator. During the Ukraine problem for Trump, 165 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:58.039 he stood up and read a letter that supposedly came from a whistleblower, 166 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:03.039 and he changed used the whole letter around. This was a letter that I 167 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.919 believe, I'm not mistaken, was a transcript from the phone call. And 168 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.039 he took poetic license in what he said during the reading of that letter to 169 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.879 the entire world. And he got caught. And over the course of the 170 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:22.480 last few years as the member of the CIA Intelligence Committee, he talked about 171 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.200 how they had all the details, all the documents to prove Trump was a 172 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:31.559 conspirer with the Russians, that he was a trader, and then when time 173 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.759 came, he had nothing. So he gets censored, not impeached, censored, 174 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.600 and he uses it a badge of honor to stand up and say what 175 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:46.320 a righteous guy he is. There's so much nonsense in lying on the Democratic 176 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.960 side, it's unbelievable. Now I respect him for it. This idea that 177 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.720 if it hurts Trump, it's okay. And the whole presidency of Trump three 178 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.600 years, he's fighting to say I did nothing wrong, and he didn't. 179 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.799 Biden did what he accused Trump of doing. He interfered in the politics of 180 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.279 the foreign nation because they were investigating the Sun's company that it was being paid 181 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:13.879 by. He insisted they fire the Prosecruda. That's one of the reasons they 182 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.960 impeached Trump. The Democrats, the masters of deny, deny, deny. 183 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.480 When they get caught with their pants down, they say, that wasn't me, 184 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.759 that's somebody else. Your pictures wrong. They are crazy, smart, 185 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:33.679 just not smart on any decisions they make. They're crazy and they're great at 186 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:39.759 making Republicans look like fools and ruining our government. Look they destroyed the economy, 187 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:43.919 they gave away our energy independence. They put us at risk a global 188 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.080 war with Russia and China. I respect them. They have no conscience. 189 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:50.480 They're not afraid of anything, and when they do wrong, they don't admit 190 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.639 it. They plass the blame to everyone else. They're tough, but never 191 00:13:54.759 --> 00:14:03.279 right. Republicans a morons. They have the answers, but they can't convince 192 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.440 the electorate or anyone else. They have the worst reputations. They're not good 193 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.519 guys, even though they are the Republicans. They bring knives to a gunfight. 194 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:15.200 They just don't know how to communicate. A former president. The Trump 195 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.039 may go to jail. The current president may get impeached and put in jail 196 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:22.240 with his son. Hey, Trump, your choice. There's plenty to dislike. 197 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:24.919 I have to agree call him a racist, although I've never seen a 198 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:31.080 policy put in place to demonstrate that the opposites. In fact, anything goes 199 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.000 against Trump. But you want the dark side, Everything he done makes sense. 200 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.759 He brought us a vaccine, but he gave us a choice of whether 201 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:41.320 to take it or not. The Democrats got to the vaccine and mandated that 202 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:45.399 they forced everyone to take it. I took it. I was glad to 203 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.360 take it, but let's face it, Democrats forced it. Now everybody's finding 204 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.720 out it didn't have a plan. Didn't that work? Right? Now? 205 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:56.240 Trump the only one talking sense on a Ukraine. He's the only one who 206 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:58.639 came right out and said it, give me one day and I'll end the 207 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.960 war in Ukraine. People are dying just for the moment put Us signed the 208 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:09.320 ruination of civilians and their culture. The soldiers are dying every day. The 209 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:16.000 entire political system behaves like that's okay. It's okay for soldiers to die because 210 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:20.200 they signed up to serve. Yes, they signed up to protect their country, 211 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:24.799 but not to die needlessly. These soldiers, their sons, their fathers, 212 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:30.679 their brothers, their lives are lost to their families. They're gone. 213 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:35.039 It's a runation, it's a travistan. All the civilians that are dying. 214 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.720 Trump is the only one who said clearly they're dying. You'll have to stop 215 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:45.080 this. There's no leadership in this country. Both parties are disgusting. And 216 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.799 once again you gotta give it to Democrats for the credit for their degree of 217 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.720 evil. To Democrats are all party line, no independent thought. That's their 218 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:58.200 way or the highway. Their Republicans let their hearts get in the way. 219 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.960 Romney, I don't know whether I'm a fan or not of him, but 220 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.600 he does act independently. He does what he thinks is right. He should 221 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.480 be applauded for that. On each issue he votes what he thinks is right, 222 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:12.240 and he's vilified. Rand Paul is always right. There's a guy with 223 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:17.960 common sense. Nobody supports them. They turn him into a buffoon. But 224 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:22.080 he was right with everything. They made him look foolish with his arguments with 225 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.759 Fauci, and everything he said was right. Our government is on the wrong 226 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.759 side of everything. You want to talk to dark side China, I have 227 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:34.919 to say it. I'm a fan of China. I spend so much time 228 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:41.679 there when I was younger. They're well made and they're inexpensive. That's a 229 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:45.840 pretty powerful position, don't you think. Yeah. I spent a lot of 230 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.759 time doing business, developing products, teaching the Chinese our know how, handing 231 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:55.720 him our technology. I demand anyone to show the gun that was put to 232 00:16:55.759 --> 00:17:02.080 their head to willingly give them our technology. And now we're angry with China 233 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:06.680 for being smarter than we are. We should be angry at all politicians for 234 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:11.319 this stupidity, for not holding the Chinese feet to the fire, for making 235 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.440 sure they bought as much from us as we bought from them, and made 236 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:21.759 sure they stop stealing our intellectual properties. What about TikTok and stealing our private 237 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:25.000 information. We don't have an issue with that. Close it down. If 238 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.079 that's what it's doing, close it down. Clearly, haven't seen how good 239 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:33.200 the dance videos are. Well, then don't complain. We're doing stupidity. 240 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.880 You can't be made of China for being smart on us for being a wealthy 241 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:42.559 nation investing in technology and finding training partners around the world who evaluated to them. 242 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:47.680 They started investing in Africa. Nobody understood why they invested in Africa. 243 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:52.799 Africa has all the minerals we need as a forward society to make computers and 244 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.559 computer chips, and they have the franchise on all its stupid Hillary Clinton settled 245 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:02.440 them are nuclear uranium. Their friends with Russia. They get energy from Russia. 246 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:06.559 China is a million times smarter than us. They have no enemies. 247 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:11.720 They exist and let others exist. We give and get nothing. Once again, 248 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.559 Trump said it with NATO. There's a war in Europe right now with 249 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.400 Ukraine fending off the Russians. Who's funding it, who's there? We are? 250 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:25.599 We have no strategy. We have strategicy. That's a fake word, 251 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:29.400 like the fake things we get for being American fools. We have no leadership. 252 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:33.200 Where are geniuses politicians? Where we give away essential skills and manufactory, 253 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:40.839 where we're are dopey politicians. When we allowed Taiwan to be the only one 254 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:45.079 to make computer chips, where we allow China to make all of our medicines, 255 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:52.119 all our penicillin, all our antibiotics. They control our hell through medicine. 256 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.279 They don't ever need to fire a shot to win us over. We'll 257 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:02.559 I'll be speaking Chinese someday. Tay China. I'm a fan. Oh and 258 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:06.079 the big guy. You know who the big guy is? He sends Blincoln, 259 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:10.319 the Secretary of State, to try and reset our relationship with China. 260 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:14.960 We told he had an excellent meeting, and right at the same time, 261 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.680 our president, the big Guy at the same time quojia dictator. That went 262 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.599 over. Well. You know you can't make this up. We have zero 263 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.920 leadership. We're in a divided nation. We're in trouble. Welcome back, 264 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:33.039 Mark, No more missed the nice guy. Tonight I'm on the dark side. 265 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.160 I'm nauseous for the way I behave for the last month. I was 266 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:40.400 a good guy, a sweet guy, a nice guy, stood up and 267 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:45.480 made speeches that people should admire because I gave faith to humans no more. 268 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:49.960 I'll take a break back in a minute. Always in fashion. As one 269 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:56.440 of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, Karlagefeld was renowned for his aspirational and 270 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.359 cutting edge approach to style. His unique vision of Parisian It comes to America 271 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:06.400 through Carlagofeld Paris. He has women's collections, men's collections, ready to wear, 272 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:10.640 accessory, shoes and bags. The fashion house Carlagofeld also offers a range 273 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:15.799 of watches. I wearing premium fragrances. You can explore the Carlogofel collection at 274 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:18.720 Karlogofel Paris dot com. But it's more than that. I, for one, 275 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.279 love to shop. I love going around and seeing what's happening and what 276 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:26.440 catches my attention, what would make me feel good to wear now. I 277 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.920 don't wear the women's wear obviously, but I can appreciate it and may look 278 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.279 amazing. If you want to look right, you want to have clothes that 279 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.839 fits you well. You want to look like you're wearing something that's very expensive, 280 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:44.119 that's exclusive for you and yours. You can find it at very affordable 281 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.079 prices at Macy's. Socarlogofel dot com Paris. The women's ready to wear fashion 282 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:52.519 is extraordinary, as well as the handbags and the shoes. I, for 283 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:56.880 one, wear men's clothes on like my appreciation of women's clothes. I'm a 284 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.960 modern guy. I want to look current, I want to look the way 285 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.640 I want to feel. I go out at night, I'm in black and 286 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.880 Carlagafeld is my buddy. Calls are great, they fit great, and they 287 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:11.079 have little tweaks and touches, whether it's a stripe on the sleeve or button 288 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.559 at the neck or on the shoulder. There's a lot of details that go 289 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:18.200 into Carlagafeld because he's always been, he always had been one of the world's 290 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:22.319 great designers, and this legacy and goes on and on. I can't speak 291 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.079 enough about it except to say to you, you want to feel good about 292 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:29.160 yourself. You want to know that you're dressing properly. You want clothes that 293 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:36.000 fits you well. Carl Lagafeld Paris at Macy's or Carlgafel dot com. My 294 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:41.599 favorite brand has always been ISOD. My company at one time bought that brand. 295 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:44.640 The CEO of the company handed it to me and said you better make 296 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:48.480 it work. And I put everything in my career to make Eyesod work, 297 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:52.039 and I fell in love with that brand, and to this day it is 298 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:57.279 one of the most exciting endeavors I've ever got involved with. ISOD is an 299 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:03.720 incredibly strong brand. If you play golf, if you play tennis for that 300 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:10.720 matter. They make a great polo shirts. I mean great. They're fit 301 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:15.559 perfect. The material is unique because it's a PK fabric that waffle weave you 302 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:21.720 see, and it's made of a blend of cotton and microfiber that allows you 303 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:27.519 to stretch. And very often they are treated with solo protection as well, 304 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:33.119 so they stretch, they're comfortable, and they breathe well. And one thing 305 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:36.440 about Isaah they always fit. They'll never tug on you. You put it 306 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:41.000 in your waist, They'll fit you great. The colors, patterns are sensational. 307 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:45.240 Now I will also tell you ISAOD makes great shorts and great golf pants. 308 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:47.759 If you're a golfer and you want to look good, you don't want 309 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:49.759 to have to think about how do I look. You want to think about 310 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.599 how you play, not how you feel. ISOD is the brand for you. 311 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:56.960 I know I was there when it was created. The strategy behind that 312 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:00.799 brand is brilliant. It's one of my favorite brands. While I talk about 313 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:04.799 I should tell you about the men's sportswear. ISOD wasn't enough being a golf 314 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:10.480 brand. It wasn't enough being just great polo shirts with logos, without logos, 315 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:17.519 incredible brands in story and history. ISAD makes salt weather programs. They 316 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:25.519 have great printed woven shirts, short sleeves that look excellent with colors, excellent 317 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:29.640 with shorts, excellent with cotton pants, of which they also make this whole 318 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:34.720 salt order relax line from ISAOD, whether it be felice, cotton sweaters, 319 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:41.039 nitpolos, woven shirts and pants of a range of colors and fabrics that are 320 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:45.240 perfect for a guy wants to go casually in the spring and summer of this 321 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:53.160 year and he is. The thing ISOD is affordable. Everyone listening to me 322 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:59.119 talk about this brand can afford to buy it and know that there are a 323 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:03.079 lot of other brands that also have a look like Iesode. Although I don't 324 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.400 believe it's fun as Eyeshot is. The brand has a lot of energy in 325 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.519 it, but at the price points, no one can compete. You can 326 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.799 find eyes that at your leading retailers and online at eod dot com. Talk 327 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:21.440 to you later, guys. I wish you a very happy spring in summer, 328 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:25.440 and I help you by telling you if you wear eyesode, you're gonna 329 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:29.920 look great. Welcome back, Jo always in fashion. Here's your host, 330 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:33.880 Mark Webber Lou. Come to the dock side. I'm on the dock side 331 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.079 now, just like in Star Wars. Last few weeks, I had some 332 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:44.559 beautiful occasions, anniversary's, weddings, nice things. You got to speak three 333 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:48.000 times mate speeches. And what did I get from being a nice guy? 334 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:55.599 Criticism? People don't get me. I'm actually nauseous from being nice and sweet, 335 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:57.759 and thinking about it, this week, I decided to go back to 336 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:02.200 the dark side, which is where I am. I get to complain, 337 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:04.640 I get to be angry, I get to be pissed off, and that's 338 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:08.359 kind of where I am tonight. I'm trying to temper it down. You 339 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:12.400 like being the bad guy, Say hello to the bad guy. Actors always 340 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.720 say they prefer playing the villain. It's more fun, isn't Well, it's 341 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.920 not so much that I want to be a villain. It's my view on 342 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:26.160 humans and people in general that there are some really nice people, and over 343 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.359 time I've talked on the show about they show up at the strangest places and 344 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:33.440 when you need them, they're there for you. But generally speaking, I 345 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:38.960 don't like humans. For someone to say, whoever, that was thirty two 346 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:44.119 minutes of my speech at your wedding was terrible, It's not that they thought 347 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:47.319 it was terrible, it's that they were offended by what you said. I 348 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:51.039 don't know who the person is, and I hope I never know, and 349 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:53.319 I don't care if I should ever meet them again, and if they or 350 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:57.079 any of their friends or listening to the show person has no brains, I 351 00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:03.039 don't want to know them. How about that morons anyway? What I want 352 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:10.039 to talk about now, of all things, this fashion. What a shotka 353 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:12.799 right for a show that's called always in Fashion, I have to talk about 354 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:19.079 fashion because it's making me crazy. What a respect in fashion is conviction. 355 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:26.920 What I don't respect is compromise, and compromise is rooting the fashion system. 356 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:33.079 Compromise is a fine idea until it compromises your principles. You have to remember, 357 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.079 we're in the business. What do people need what can you sell a 358 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.119 lot of? What do people want? Or what can you sell a lot 359 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:48.680 of without compromising your principles. I'll also remind you that in this world, 360 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:53.759 in order to make money, you have to sell a lot of what you 361 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:59.880 make. Think about Tesla has to sell a lot of cars. Think about 362 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:06.880 Apple has to sell a lot of phones. On fashion, you have to 363 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:11.279 sell a lot of key items basics. We all wear basics when we admit 364 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.160 or not. We wear T shirts, we wear sweaters, we wear sweatshirts. 365 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:19.920 Companies have to sell a lot of them. But the best companies disguise 366 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:25.680 these basic as fashion. They have to be comfortable and they make you look 367 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:30.960 current and better. Now I work between two worlds. One world I grew 368 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:38.359 up working for Man of the People products fan using shirts isod sports where even 369 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:42.480 Calvin Klein, when you think about how much underwear genes sports where they sell, 370 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:49.759 is very affordable. Donna Karen decan y tremendously affordable products that would sell 371 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:56.440 a ton of them. Decany sold three hundred million dollars worth of jeans over 372 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:02.759 a fifteen year period at Popular Prize. So I lived in that world. 373 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.880 The other world I walked into is the luxury world at lvmh Luis Vutan Moet 374 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:14.640 Hennessey. The luxury world talks about what do I put in to my product 375 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.519 to make it better rather than what I take out of it to make it 376 00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:22.160 less expensive. So let's take a stroll to those worlds. Have any of 377 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:30.720 you seen the recent men's wear collections for Spring twenty four. It's been men's 378 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:41.559 fashion week around the globe. Product vetone, Gucci disaster. Ladies, keep 379 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.400 wearing your naked dresses. I don't know what signal you're trying to send, 380 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:51.799 but I'll look at you. But men, I can't believe what I'm seeing. 381 00:28:52.920 --> 00:29:00.720 The genius Raft Simmons is now at Product and the clothes are in sanely 382 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:07.359 sick and terrible. Raf Simmons is famous, I'm not Raf Simmons did a 383 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.880 movie called Dior and Me. He was the creative director at Dior. He 384 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:18.880 was sensational. He was unbelievable because everything he did at Diyor was in keeping 385 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.200 with being a luxury company, to being out in front of it like no 386 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.960 one else, and someone the merchant said to or tempered a lot of what 387 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:34.359 he was doing in order to make it salable. Now salable at Dior is 388 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:38.319 very different. It's salable at some of these other companies I mentioned because at 389 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:45.920 the or you're talking about very very expensive handbag, shoes, sunglasses, dresses. 390 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:51.000 But within it, he was brilliant. Now I want to tell you 391 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:55.240 the other side. I did a show back in June, I think of 392 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.839 last year, probably a year ago, about my former company Van Jusen, 393 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.799 when they saw hold off their assets of venues in and isod to evolve people, 394 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.039 my son's company where he works, and I did a show called you 395 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:14.240 Failed. There's no other way to spin it, and the responsibility of keeping 396 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.720 the founding brand of Phillips venues in pH as seen on the stock exchange was 397 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:27.519 a failure of the highest proportions. Drove me crazy. Now on LinkedIn every 398 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:34.039 week I get comments from anywhere from a thousand to when my wife passed away 399 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:40.799 twelve thousand people to the show that you failed eighty eight hundred people, the 400 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.960 second largest response I ever had. Because people were invested and they are invested 401 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:51.599 in brands and PVH selling off their namesake brand was a failure of the greatest 402 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:55.079 proportions. I spent thirty years of my life doing everything I can to make 403 00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.559 that brand great, as did so many other of my associates, and they 404 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.400 gave it a way. And then pH who owned Calvin Klein, which is 405 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.640 amazing success during my tenure, even more amazing after I left. Calvin Klein 406 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:12.960 is one of the truly great brands in the world between underwear, Calvin Klein, 407 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:18.680 Jeens, Calvin Klein Sports, where Calvin Klein, Fragrances, eternity c 408 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:23.920 K one what a company. They hired Raf Simmons to be the creative director, 409 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:30.160 not just for the collection, they gave him the whole company. And 410 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:36.519 what did he do. He went out and started making strange things, couturier 411 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:41.640 ideas that a handful of people would be interesting. Remember before I said I 412 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.359 don't like compromise, Well, I have to give it to Raf Simmons because 413 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.319 he never compromised. He went ahead and started making the same things he'd made 414 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:56.480 for everyone else and literally destroyed Calvin Klein. The collection closed, every one 415 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.359 of their business suffered. The CEO of the company had, I want to 416 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:01.799 say, had to leave, but it was a blot on his career. 417 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.599 He was a great guy who did well for I think eleven twelve years. 418 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.279 He retired at his own choosing. But he took a hit for that. 419 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.279 And all the people associated with Ralf Simmons, Calvin Klean company, the president, 420 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:20.319 the executive, they're all gone. They had to start all over. 421 00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.480 They had to get rid of Ralph Simmons, and they did. And now 422 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.200 I watched him at Product. I'm a Product fan. You want to talk 423 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.319 about the dark side, I'm on the dark side now. I saw the 424 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:34.960 men's run my show. There were more skirts than pants. There are more 425 00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.559 dresses than pants. They're more shorts than pants. There are more skin on 426 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:43.240 men's weban I've ever seen in my life. How can you wear this? 427 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:47.480 What are you doing to fashion? I watch what's going on and I say 428 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:52.440 to myself, who's allowing this to happen? What's going on in fashion? 429 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.240 I have a question for you, Pharrell. What is he known for. 430 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.400 He's a musician and a producer, a genius at it right. He's amazing, 431 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.240 He's incredible, and he's a cool guy, cool guy that never ages. 432 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.519 He like looks the same for the past twenty years. And I knew 433 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.799 him Farrell because of his music. From a fashion point of view, I'm 434 00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:19.000 asking myself, what are his credentials. I know he wore a smokey the 435 00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.799 bear hat. I know he likes sunglasses. I know he's a cool guy. 436 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.400 But he was just named creative director of Vitone. The way that I 437 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.440 would look at that is you say, okay, he is a creative artist, 438 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:36.519 and creative artists sometimes that can translate into fashion, can it? Absolutely? 439 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:40.720 Why is Kanye West grating clothes? Because he could maybe Farrell could as 440 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.200 well. I'm not arguing. I just saw the Runway show and it's strange, 441 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.720 vite. They're all about the next thing. They're all about fashion, 442 00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:53.920 and I gotta tell you, Farrelle in Paris brought out the big guns. 443 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:58.559 Jay Z was there. He and jay Z sung at the show. I 444 00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.359 mean then or then and after whatever. But I'm watching what's going on. 445 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:06.559 I'm thinking about my former company, Viton. I'm wondering what this guy's fashion 446 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.440 credits are. I haven't read the reviews, but why, baba. They're 447 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:15.000 applauding brown shoes with navy suits. They're applauding all these white soul shoes. 448 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.960 They're pluting all these things. They're putting Billy Porter from wearing a dress to 449 00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.719 the oscars. All of this is okay all of a sudden, what's going 450 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.079 on in fashion? I don't understand. Look, I wish him luck. 451 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:35.559 I like the idea that he's a person who is noticed, that he draws 452 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.639 people to anything he does, and he will draw a new audience to LV. 453 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:45.679 I just have my fingers cross that the fashion will be more sensible. 454 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:53.000 But I never dream of the nightmare then I'm looking at right now? How 455 00:34:53.000 --> 00:35:00.719 could this statement possibly help anyone? And why are we embracing in his industry 456 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:06.079 this lack of clarity, this lack of common sense, this lack of style. 457 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.760 Where can this lead? I know nowhere to you? Wow? Look 458 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:19.280 at what you're wearing behind your back? Also? Wow? Wow? Shouldn't 459 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.920 be your goal? You deserve to be seen, You deserve to be appreciated, 460 00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:28.559 deserve to be respected, you deserve to be taken. Seriously, we 461 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:30.599 can't do it with the fashion I'm seeing on the run rays right now. 462 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.000 And I might be the only one saying it, but that's the way it 463 00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:38.440 is. I'm not a nice guy tonight. With that, I'll be back 464 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:45.920 in a minute. Always in fashion spent a lifetime of my career building the 465 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.039 van Usen Brand, and I am so pleased that they're back with us now 466 00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:55.159 talking about suits. Men, We're dressing up again and it's become cool to 467 00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.840 wear a suit. Suits can be one on multiplecasions in multiple ways. You 468 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.000 could wear a suit formally to go out at night or to an event, 469 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.440 to wear a suit to the office with or without a tie. If you 470 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:12.159 look closely, now fashion trends, suits are being worn with turtlenecks or mocknecks. 471 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:17.239 The choices are endless, and every one of them looks right. You 472 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.400 could really really look the part. I believe that packaging yourself this is important. 473 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.880 Does the products you package and wearing a suit is one of those things 474 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:31.039 that make men look their best. Venues and invented a new idea. It's 475 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:37.320 called the cool flex suit. It's been engineered with stretched technology, giving you 476 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.320 the most comfortable fit and mobility. It's wrinkle resistant fabric, it's cool moisture 477 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.679 wicking. It makes it perfect for all occasions. As we discussed just now, 478 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:52.159 this new style of looking shop while feeling cool and comfortable is amazing, 479 00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:57.800 and I'm so excited that the Venusing company is involved in this new technology and 480 00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.719 is embracing the whole idea of dressing up. Let's not forget van Uson made 481 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:07.800 its name with dress shirts. It's only proper that the suit business follows strongly 482 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:12.079 in its way. You can find van Uson cool flex men's stretched suits at 483 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:16.440 jac Penney or online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're great. You 484 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:22.039 should go look at them. Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your 485 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:27.800 host, Mark Webber. I have been nauseous with myself. I can't look 486 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.239 in the mirror. I've spent the last month being a nice guy a place 487 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:36.559 I'm not familiar with. I'm used to being tough to the point, but 488 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.280 fair. Maybe I don't know even what that means, but I've been different 489 00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.119 because I've been in these situations, and now that I have been doing it, 490 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:53.320 I've gotten criticized for my behavior. Some for the show. I'm just 491 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:58.639 getting angry. I'm on the dock side. Now that's this week's show. 492 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:04.159 I'm not being nice. I'm complaining, and I think Jesse evens enjoying it. 493 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.880 I am. As much as I like the sweet Mark Webber, You're 494 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.280 much more fun as the dark Mark Webber, as the bad guy. You 495 00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:15.360 know, before your wedding, we took a bunch of guys out for dinner 496 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.719 the night before, and I got up and spoke extemporaneously, no notes, 497 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.719 no plan whatever, and I was talking about gripes and stuff, and I 498 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.039 was funny as hell. I was my best speech of the last month. 499 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.760 I think that's the most fun you had of the wedding weekend. Maybe. 500 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:32.400 Yeah, I'm angry and I'm feeling better. Though, Wait, wait before 501 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.559 you get into it. It seems you're getting angry and angry as we go 502 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.199 forward in the show. That's funny, but I would say, no, 503 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:44.000 my angerer is equally proportionate. I thought, you don't care what people think. 504 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.280 I know, do you to an extent? Not like I'll change my 505 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:51.320 behavior, but I'm conscious of how people respond to what I do. Yeah, 506 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.559 one person watches you on TV makes a comment about your hair or something 507 00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.320 you said you get a little nose out of joint or note so funny you 508 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:00.559 should say that. I'll tell you this. I'll be like, you know, 509 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.599 somebody said something about my hair, or somebody said something about this. 510 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.400 Instead of saying me, ah, forget it, who cares what they saying? 511 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:08.920 You side with them. You go, huh, maybe your hair is 512 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.800 a little too long. Maybe you do have to give it a second thought. 513 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.079 I'm shocked. I'm shocked for the guy who doesn't care what people think. 514 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.480 Anytime somebody gives me a critique, you're like, oh, maybe you 515 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.559 have to think about that. Well. One of the people who wrote me 516 00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:23.719 a letter this week commented, I am tough on you, are demeaning on 517 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:29.440 you on the show, and I'm really other than fooling around saying I can't 518 00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:31.280 believe you took a honeymoon and you stay here and you know you didn't take 519 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:36.239 your recording good man, which I would think is a joke. Do you 520 00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:38.119 feel I'm tough on you on air? Well, first of all, I 521 00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:44.039 wrote it anonymously, No, you didn't. It happen to be from a 522 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.599 guy who I know very well. And let me just say to the person 523 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:51.360 that wrote you, I appreciate you defending me, But at the same time, 524 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.440 I really don't think I needed any defense. I feel like you and 525 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:58.880 I are always just joking around. It's never really serious. Yeah, that 526 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.400 was one comment the stand. Then there was comments he made a comment that 527 00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.760 you know which really part of the would triggered this show, which is I'm 528 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:10.599 grateful in that regard because he was saying that always in fashion is not on 529 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:15.000 point, which is really what I want to talk about. For the moment. 530 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:21.480 Everything on this show is a life lesson. I've always said you should 531 00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.840 listen, but more importantly, you should hear what I'm saying on focusing this 532 00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:30.039 audience on what's important. Business. You can't do it alone. You need 533 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:35.599 people. For me, considering that this entire night have been talking so far 534 00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.320 about how I don't like humans, I want to make the point you can't 535 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:42.320 be successful in business without people. No one can do it all themselves. 536 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:47.719 But I have a concept that I hire or I will only tolerate inherited people 537 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:53.840 that work directly for me, who make me struggle to be value added. 538 00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.480 I don't want to do anything. I want their ideas. I want the 539 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:04.480 brilliant, so I want their expertise to lead the way, and I want 540 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:08.079 to struggle to make a contribution. And then when you think about that, 541 00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:12.119 you might say it makes no sense, But it makes all the sense in 542 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:16.920 the world because I then have to work to figure out what we're missing, 543 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.159 what to do to make us better, what to do to make us more 544 00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.760 unusual. I want to work with the smarter people. The better you are, 545 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:30.400 the more excited I will get. I'm never fearful than anyone who would 546 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.440 report to me might be better than me. If you're better than me, 547 00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:37.480 more power to you. I'll come work for you. There's always an opportunity 548 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.519 in companies for all of us. There's always room. You better than me. 549 00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.400 I have to accept you as a key player, but I'll tell you 550 00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.119 I'm tough to beat. My exact quote goes like this, I want to 551 00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:51.280 work with people who make me struggle to be value ended. I'll find a 552 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.639 way to contribute. I'll add a perspective, make your ideas special. I'll 553 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.559 make you more confident. But no question, I'm a tough guy in business. 554 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:05.800 Tough but fair. It means I'm demanding. I don't suffer fools well, 555 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:12.440 but I'm also understanding and try and bring fools along. Have you come 556 00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.639 to me, ask me a question, or you present an idea. I 557 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:20.360 expect you to be prepared. I expect you to be thorough, to consider 558 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.559 all the options. I expect you to look for an ounce should you need 559 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:27.000 one, Because if your idea or your plans don't work, what are you 560 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:31.719 gonna do? H you need to have a backup. I expect people to 561 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:38.000 think through the unintended consequences. Look, I don't believe we should ever make 562 00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.960 the same mistake twice. We have to have some class. We have to 563 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.840 give credit where it's due. You got to remember to appreciate and say thank 564 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:50.039 you. You have to remember anither to take credit for other people's work. 565 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.719 And I will tell you if you always agree with me, one of us 566 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.119 is needed. So you better have some ideas that are different from mine. 567 00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:00.840 I don't need kissing my ring to make me nice. This whole idea of 568 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:07.159 sweet and nice is platform for me to talk to you tonight about different subjects. 569 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.039 Like the show always is, I look for something that might trigger a 570 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:15.400 response. I look for something that's saying. In this case, me being 571 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.000 nice didn't pay off. Allows me to talk about things that are annoying me. 572 00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.880 That allows me to be tough but fair. You know, when I 573 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.079 talk about once in my life, I was brilliant, it was designed to 574 00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.719 challenge you to think outside the box, to realize that it's okay to think 575 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:37.119 differently. When I talk about I used to be important, I understand that 576 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:42.400 time's change, in life's changes, you have to be self aware. For 577 00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.840 me, it's fun to see the reality of it. What I'm complaining that 578 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.920 nobody sees me anymore, and what it feels like to no longer be relevant. 579 00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.000 That's real. It gets me to see humans that they're best and the 580 00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:58.719 worst. And I love it. I'm not unhappy. I'm a realist. 581 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:04.239 I had my aunts in business. I was important, I was a CEO. 582 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.639 Now I'm not. Now I do radio, I do podcasts. I'm 583 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:12.800 sure I'm relevant to those who not only listen, but here. I believe 584 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.480 it's great that I get your comments. I want you to keep them coming. 585 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.599 I don't mind those friends who've written me are concerned you're being honest with 586 00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.000 me, No, don't worry about. All it does is trigger more ideas 587 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:28.039 for me. I wonder whether you get the impact. One of these folks 588 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:31.079 who I've mentioned now a couple of things he said, said, I'm losing 589 00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:36.840 the spirit of always in fashion. I couldn't disagree more. This show began 590 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.360 as a business show. I tried every time I came out there this is 591 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.199 mark where, but this is always in fashion, this is business. And 592 00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:47.719 with spite of all that talk about business, Apple Spotify categorized us as culture 593 00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:52.719 and lifestyle. That's who we are. Any subject is game, any subject 594 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.280 is relevant, and I love the freedom at off it. I love the 595 00:44:55.320 --> 00:45:00.639 opportunity to expand beyond the walls of fashion. So I welcome put. I'm 596 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:06.199 not sorry in the least for you reawakening the tiger in me. Well, 597 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.599 I think you should continue to be mean to me because I like getting the 598 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:13.079 fan mail. I like people defending me. I mean, I gotta tell 599 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.920 you, people defending me at the wedding, people defending me on air. 600 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:21.000 My goodness, I haven't seen so much Jesse love in quite some time. 601 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:22.960 Give me one example where I gave you a tough time. Well, I 602 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:27.119 mean, it's light humor, it's light. But you gave me a hard 603 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.000 time about certain decisions that I made. No, I want to hear that's 604 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.599 psychobabble. You didn't give me a little bit of a hard time about going 605 00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.400 to Greece. No, I questioned whether I need to go to the other 606 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:39.039 ends of the world. There were so many other places to choose from. 607 00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:43.400 I was talking to you as your dad, your father. I was concerned 608 00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:46.599 you being so far from home and a place that has all kinds of problems. 609 00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:51.079 Never seems to meet their budgets. I don't know what's going on in 610 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:52.679 Greece. That was a hard time. You gotta do better than that. 611 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.519 Keep going. Let me hear what else. The truth is, I can't 612 00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.039 think of anything that you did bad at me, because nothing stood out. 613 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.159 You tease me here and there, but I don't think of anything that bad 614 00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:07.440 in particular. I know you can't. And just to put things in perspective, 615 00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.360 do you tease me? Yeah, I tease you, but rightfully so 616 00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:14.519 someone's got to hold your feet to the fire a little bit. You give 617 00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.159 me all kinds of stuff no matter what show we're doing. That's true. 618 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.679 Oh you gave me a hard time and out bringing my equipment to Grace to 619 00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.960 do the show. Yeah. Was it a hard time or it was a 620 00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:28.239 joke? Do I expect you to work on your honeymoon? Yeah? I 621 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.719 do. But hey, I have a different question for you. While we're 622 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.800 just rambling here. I don't want to mention names. I don't want to 623 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:40.440 mention brands, but one of the former brands that I used to work at 624 00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.960 it is looking for some help. I had a conversation with the principles of 625 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:53.400 the company about coming in there and helping them get back on track. Should 626 00:46:53.400 --> 00:47:00.920 I go back to semi something work or not? Yes? First of all, 627 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.719 your mind always has to be active. You wouldn't be good just sitting 628 00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.920 around. And yes, the radio show takes a lot of time. It's 629 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.320 a great thing that you do. But I think you would love to be 630 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:15.039 part of a company working in that industry again, being value added. I 631 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.480 think you would love it. I think it would make your life interesting. 632 00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.119 So you want to put your forefather back to work after he retired, I'm 633 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:27.840 not telling you to work in a sweatshop from six am until midnight. So 634 00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.199 how many hours should I work every day? Should I travel over the world 635 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:35.039 all over again? No? No, no, no, no more light 636 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.360 work? You said semi semi, So I don't know. Two hours a 637 00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:43.239 day, three hours a day every day? So I shouldn't have days off 638 00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.960 to play golf or hang out and just do nothing. I should have a 639 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:49.480 schedule every day. If it's taking a phone call for an hour and a 640 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.320 half, is that the worst? The funniest thing is I used to be 641 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.760 a consultant, you know. I have this practice, and I would take 642 00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:58.760 phone calls and fall asleep on them. That was terrible. You know, 643 00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:02.079 you probably shouldn't say that on air because they're probably listening to this, and 644 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:06.519 by the way, your future potential employer might be listening to this. You 645 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:10.519 don't have any urge to be back in the industry, that's a great question, 646 00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.840 But the real question is why would I. I'm concerned that it's my 647 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:21.559 ego. I'm concerned that, you know, being back in some form gives 648 00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:25.840 me a platform. I walk in I stand tall, people respect me. 649 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:30.519 I can't tell you how many times the folks I was involved with talking about 650 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.800 this that it was an honor for me to be there. I haven't heard 651 00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:37.800 that, you know, maybe ever. But I'm concerned it's my ego. 652 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:43.760 Number one and number two, it is another mountain to climb, to go 653 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:47.440 back to some degree in the fashion luxury business. But is that where I 654 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.239 should be climbing mountains or should be finding new mountains to climb like we did 655 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.079 with radio, like I did with books. While is there some other career 656 00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:59.679 that you haven't told me about that you want to do. I want to 657 00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.639 be a whole fighter. If you think about it, there's a part of 658 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:06.719 you you're still reading about the industry. You always tell me, what's going 659 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.519 on? We talk about it here. You're not interested in building a company, 660 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.440 up, building a brand? Well, I'd be lying if I didn't 661 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.639 say I wasn't considering it. You're like the in the movies, the assassin 662 00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:21.039 who comes back for that one job they need him out of retirement. Yeah, 663 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.239 and that's the one he gets killed in. Okay, maybe bad example. 664 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:28.360 I'm just saying you're still value added. Look, I'm not money motivated. 665 00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:30.920 Whatever they would pay me is not going to be enough to change my 666 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:37.199 life, So the money doesn't mean anything in this regard. I am very 667 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:42.880 protective of my time and the fact that you know, what's our favorite trips. 668 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.360 Our favorite trips are the ones where we have nothing planned. And what's 669 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.519 our favorite days where we have nothing to do when we figure it out on 670 00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:52.159 the day of Okay, now, what if I told you your whole life 671 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.599 now you have to have nothing planned and you could just do whatever you want. 672 00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.920 I mean, it's amazing. I wish I had that. So why 673 00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.800 you're telling me to go back to work. I was in Greece for two 674 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:05.000 and a half weeks. I kind of still have that mentality of looking at 675 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.320 the ocean and eating Greek salads. So I'm kind of like still in that 676 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:12.320 mentality. Maybe if you ask me into a couple of weeks. I think 677 00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:17.639 it's time to summarize tonight's show. Half the time I'm self deprecating. I'm 678 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.480 making fun of myself so that when I want to brag about myself, I 679 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.199 can do it. You know, I used to be important. Nobody sees 680 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:30.280 me anymore. People don't like me. This that I do that all the 681 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:31.960 time, and I'm part of it is so I have the right to brag. 682 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.880 I am a smart guy. I do a radio show that's unique, 683 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:44.440 and it's smart, and it's clever. And if you take the time to 684 00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:52.559 listen, but more importantly to hear, if you take the time to look, 685 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:58.679 but more important to see, you'll be better for it. This show. 686 00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.840 If you listen to the it bits lost in a sentence, there are 687 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.639 gems. So when I get your comments, all of you out there, 688 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.800 friends and foes, think about what you're saying. Did you miss the point 689 00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:16.719 you're getting what I'm saying. Do you enjoy the show for the purity of 690 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:22.639 it, for the diverse set of subjects. Do I open your minds to 691 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:28.360 sometimes thinking about things you might not have thought about. Did you learn something? 692 00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:31.639 Well, if you did, stop criticizing me. I don't want to 693 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:35.480 hear it. I'm on the dark side. Go bother someone else, or 694 00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:37.599 go get your own show. Good night,