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Welcome to you, softcore History.
What is up? Welcome back to softcore

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History. I am your host for
the week, Rob Fox. As always,

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I am joined by Jake Goldman and
Dan Rochester. How's it feel to

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be second bro? Symbolic for life, always the second choice? Are you

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the second child? Are you the
oldest? I'm the oldest? Okay that

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I know of that? Yeah,
you know, Dad was doing your dad's

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like Mario, just down to the
pipes, banging princesses. It's not a

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plumber though, sewer princesses. Yeah, a little less skilled than a plumber.

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No offense, Dad, he didn't
go to trade school. You played

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baseball a community college. That's sick. It is Duco baseball players are legit

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the Delaware County or Delaware Community College
fantoms. I believe that's a good name.

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That is a good name. It's
better than like the Cougars or something.

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Yeah, Tigers, Tigers we used
to be and ticket holders for the

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minor league hockey team in Philadelphia.
Oh gods, the fantoms that had to

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be just like I feel like I
saw the ninety eight Colder Cup. I

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was in a fucking Phantom's commercial.
How many people every game got stabbed by

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a broken bottle. It's got it's
gotta be. I'm thinking, like over

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under nine and a half double digits. We're not here to talk about your

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traumatic childhood hockey memory, you say, or honestly, maybe cherished childhood hockey.

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Honestly, one of the best moments
left the ninety eight Colder Cup.

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It's like what you just had,
like a Canadian hillbilly. Yeah, like

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you just grew up an hour outside
of fucking Calgary. I was seven.

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You know, when like you go
to a small town where people care about

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the high school football team. It's
on the water tower. Yeah, and

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it's like, dude, no one
outside of the city cares about this,

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right, but it meant something to
me, damn it. I mean the

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Soul one inn AFL title. Nobody
blanked. It's the Big three Football's one,

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right, Always trying to flip flop
between baseball and basketball, Yeah,

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because like between what is like,
I mean it's a flowers when the Stanley

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Cup, it's kind of a big
deal. But a lot of I would

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say, yeah, you're in the
Northeast, Yeah, but I would say

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it's a lot of Bandwagon fans,
right, bandwagon the Blues in twenty nineteen.

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It happens. I'm like, I'm
a casual and then there's plenty of

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hockey fans, but I don't think
they go outside of their arena when it

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comes to other sports. Like if
somebody that's a Flyers fan in Philadelphia's probably

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not a six Ers fan. It's
such a grim existence to be an NHL

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first fan, Like you're kind of
a lunatic. If you're hockey first.

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Now you're kind of a psycho.
Make one of your best memories minor league

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hockey. And that's what I'm saying. So if it's like a minor league

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team, it's that's very letter Kenny
Juniors. Yeah, it's like a trailer

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park boys situations. It's it's aggressive. But enough of that before we get

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It's not hard to find, I
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you that roll in that Rob sent
you. Yeah, but enough of that,

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let's get into this week's episode,
as everyone I'm sure is aware,

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Uh, there is both the writers
and actors strike going on right now.

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Yeah, blah blah blah. We
don't really need to get into why that's

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happening. I'm gonna give our hard
and fast opinions on right yea rather or

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not it's justifying. Yeah, I'm
not gonna get into, uh what that's

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about, but to fights it to
say no, I want you to remove

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yourself from the guild and make yourself
a social pariah. I'm not in the

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guild. I don't know, but
I want you to do it. I

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do have a script registered with w
GA West, a pilot script, but

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that's it. I'm not a guild
member myself. I want you to get

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blackballed, probably already. So these
are not my opinions. But Rob off

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my told me that they are spoiled
and that they deserve minimum wage if you

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could even call what they do work, I believe it's Yeah, he was

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just going in on him. I
wish you could be here before the podcast

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recording and I being labor sympathized,
but we know the struggle of a blue

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collar man. Yeah, Rob doesn't. He's the heroical parents were lawyers,

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very wealthy, incredibly wealthy, private
schools. I've seen his home. It's

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fucking picturesque. It's very American dream
in the sub in the outskirts of it.

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I don't know that your eyes were
open at my house. They were

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when I've got there. The first
time they were when the sun opened up

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through the plantation shutters. It was, yeah, you're you're live in help

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was very kind to me. I
don't know. I don't know if you

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guys think this bit wounds me,
but I just enjoy people thinking I'm like,

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incredibly wealthy. Don't you take once
you lean back into your chair and

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enjoy the episode. Yeah, you
two just make up a history about here's

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what happened with history about Rob's life. Well, again, that's a technical

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guy. I would like you to
be in focus this entire episode. I

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am comfortable like this today. And
I told you this is how I was

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gonna live. I said, as
you were framing up, this is I'm

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gonna live today. Oh my god, it's on you. It's so on

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you, on your back. I
hope it's poisoned. It's really on you.

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I'll yeah, welcome back. We
are within the cricket house. We're

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guess, yeah, our studio has
never been sprayed for pests, so I

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guess there's worse things than crickets.
But oh yeah, I mean scorpions for

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sure. But they're they're here too. They and it's so weird. Every

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time I have a joke that falls
flat, they start chirping really loud.

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Yeah, it's kind of like a
built in shit test, you know,

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it's a built in bit. Yeah. They're actually robotic, kind of like

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how people think birds aren't real.
I just have a ship in my crickets

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here. It was on your nuts, inserted for a comedic effect. They're

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huge. These things are well fed. They're like locusts. They're just loading

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up on hard af where all the
spiders. They might have taken out the

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spiders. Bro, God damn it. They're like Mecca. This is why

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every time my wife is like a
spider, I need you to kill them,

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Like where is it? Because there's
a lot of spiders I would like

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to leave in place, tactical spiders. Yeah, a lot of tactical spiders

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outside they're staying. Yeah hell yeah, man, unless it's like legitimately something

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like a black widow or something unless
it's that I'm fucking leaving it. We

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should seriously think about setting off a
tactical nuke in the studio. We have

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the smoke bomb almost set it off
the other day. According to Holloway.

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No, according to our veteran,
that you really. He said, as

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long as the pin's not removed here, you could throw that against the wall.

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I think it makes a lot of
sense considering they have to travel in

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crates across long distances. Yeah.
Yeah, so anyway, strike's going on.

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Whatever I used to say, I'm
not gonna talk about what it's about

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or whatever, but suffice it to
say, what it's not about really is

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talent working conditions. Yeah right,
they're not really Like, no one's getting

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sucked into machinery, as you said
earlier. They just get catered their soft

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Yeah, breakfast launching dinner seems like
an easy gig. Well, I was

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gonna say, seg has not actually
had a strike about working conditions since the

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nineteen fifties. Oh and look,
it's not you know, actors. It

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was more about actors and writers.
But actors like they worked twelve hours a

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day and maybe sometimes they're director or
producers mean to them or jerks off in

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front of them or something like that, you know, at a party,

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finds a plant, crimes in it. Whatever. But unless you're a method

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actor, overall, it's a pretty
great job as long as you're working,

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Like being an actor's like a dope
job. So working conditions haven't really been

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a like an overall all industry problem. It's like, you know, people

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have bad productions and stuff, but
whatever, But holy shit, did working

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conditions for actors used to be insane? Well The Wizard of Oz Lady with

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Judy Garland, so it was all
running gun from the hip and by that

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I mean get on my hips mostly
mostly be truly creative too with some of

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the stunts and how to get shots. Especially before Citizen Cane. Oh,

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it was all uh what do you
call it? Not digital practical effects.

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Yeah, it was all practical effects. It was all fucking you know,

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it was all like hardware. It
was all like you had to do fucking

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every It was like Christopher Nolan right
when he found out it was cheaper to

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crash an actual plane than CGI the
player sent off a real nuke in Oppenheimer.

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Yeah, Christopher Nolan is one of
is a nuclear power, like what's

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his sin copy then they signed off
sign him having nukes. Yeah, it's

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fine for the movie. Yeah,
But so I actually wrote in here,

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I was like everyone kind of vaguely
knows about Judy Garland. Everyone knows that

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she was like like the studios were
just giving her like cigarettes and meth starting

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at the age of like twelve,
and working her twenty hours a day.

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Gotta keep her thin. She was
chemically woken up and chemically put back the

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bed. Gotta keep her thin.
She's only allowed to eat like one grape

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a day. You know, a
lot of black face basically mostly how Silly

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and Murphy did for Oppenheimer, but
he was doing it by choice. What

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was this shit? Like I ate
an almond today that was like his own.

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It's like, you were already skinny, dude, Killian, you were

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already fucking skinny. That was the
best part of the movie. We knew

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this going into Oppenheimer didn't really eat
much, but they really threw it in

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your face, like, hey,
APPI, here's a fruit, like an

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orange is really gonna do some fucking
damage to you. Yeah, that's really

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that's substance right there. That's gonna
keep the weight on the fucking five calorie

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orange. Yeah, that's sugar man. Just get him high though, right,

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But yeah, everyone everyone kind of
knows about Judy Garland. Uh so

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I'm not talking about Judy. That's
a that's two, that's almost two.

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Instead, ready to talk about another
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who is in some ways A was
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time period. And b was sort
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or Chris Farley, the original fat
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who did physical comedy, the abbot. No, I was unaware of fat

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people before the nineteen forties. They
were they were there. Well, there

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was Fatty Arbuckle that we're not talking
about him, but his name was Before

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processed foods, they still had sugar
and alcohol off. They were a lot

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dinner. The end though, for
this person was somehow much much worse than

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Belushi and Farley, and it was
drect directly related to working conditions. Damn,

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it's worse than Farley. Have you
seen his fucking death picture? Uh,

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I'm gonna call it now. Was
a set light kind of dangling and

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it fell off and decapitated him.
He wishes, oh he wishes. Who

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was this man we're talking about Curly
from the Three Stooges. Oh, yes,

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I'm not unaware of how he died. I never cared to look into

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it. Are you guys familiar with
The Three Stooges at least? Yeah,

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so hopefully. I guess he was
a method actor himself. He was actually

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just that Zwinky we'll get into that. Yeah, so you know which one

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it is, too, right?
The guy it's like, yeah, yeah,

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he was the most famous one.
He was his head's chopped off,

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by the way, the most famous
comedian of his era. No training and

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anything whatsoever. No no improv classes, no fucking just a natural born talent.

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Yeah kind of really, I mean
he only played the one character,

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but yeah, that's someone that's been
to a full course load of improv in

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school. You don't need it,
you never got it, or you don't

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maybe it's it's very true. I
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uh people going to a local troop
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I said to me in the middle
of year show. I was say,

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imagine being in it. Yeah,
it's even worse. Dan turned to whisper

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me, do we whisper to me. He was like, this is the

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worst thing I've ever fucking seen.
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only been Jake on the stage so
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like, I never went to Jake's. But I did go to one when

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I was dating a girl to see
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groups there was just this like lesbian
girl that did, uh these twirly kind

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of spinner drape things or ribbon dancing, Like she ribbon danced, and I

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didn't know. I thought it was
a bit At first. I was the

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only person laughing because everybody else like
was there to joke around. But she

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was dead serious. Well you can't, that's that's on the show runner.

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Yeah, you can't drop that in
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people not to laugh at it.
Fucking stupid. I always get annoyed it.

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But I died. It was the
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That's because I thought it was.
She was just so committed to the bit.

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It is really funny. It's like
Will Ferrell and School right when he

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just does the ribbon dancing. Ribbon
dancing't hilarious? Was that his church?

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The improv show was oh Man this
spreeks of Austin sounds comedy. I always

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get annoyed at Austin I don't even
know a couple, but Austin improv shows

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in particular, because I don't know, like they're always so like satisfied with

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themselves and I'm like, you shouldn't
be. No, it's literally like some

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of the worst people in the class
wreck we really killed that and feeling No,

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I fucking hated every second of the
guys shouldn't shouldn't name names. Jared

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Boost and Jared We're great to work
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Boosh though dropped a hard. We
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a racist grandfather, so we started
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that could jap like like after it, like someone was like, you cannot

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do that again, and we're like, he's playing a character. It's totally

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fine. Fucking bitch shit. By
the way, that's annoying to you because

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I would hear stories about ucb in
La and stuff like that. Listen,

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you gotta play it safe, Italians, Polish, Irish, that's all you

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gotta go after. Yeah, And
I honestly, you know, even Greek

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people will call you a racist.
I think Greek's the line Greek term.

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I don't even know what the Greek
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Yeah, you're damn I don't know. You just call him Harry or something.

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It's greasy, it's it's oily.
They're oily. You go fuck a

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block of feta, you piece of
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Shove this into your euro Yeah.
Uh. Anyway, so you know

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where the students are. They started
in vaudeville, became big film and kind

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of TV stars those later, and
are one of the most famous comedy groups

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in American history. If you don't
know, uh, there was a terrible

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movie about them in like twenty twelve
or something like that. And like any

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band or TV show, people say
the Stooges were never the same after they

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lost an original member, in this
case, their most popular member there Curly.

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I don't know if you recall have
you ever heard of Shemp? No?

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Shemp? No, what's up?
Your heard Shemp? Shemp was a

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guy who replaced Curly. It's actually
his brother, Oh oh god, very

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Belushi. Yeah, very Belump.
Also Mary, Curly's wife replace them in

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all aspects of life. Curly had
too many wives for that to be possible.

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Kind of multiple families, well kind
of, we'll get not simultaneously.

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I will say I had to watch
a lot of according to Jim, I

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watched. I don't. I didn't
have to. I watched a lot of

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according to Jim as a kid.
Yeah, that was your choice. Yeah,

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watched with my parents. Yeah,
and it was always just so funny.

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It's like, really, he's married
to Courtney Thorne Smith. Really couldn't

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tell you who it was, really
just some hot chick. Yeah. It

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basically Sherylhids like Courtney Thorne Smith,
same thing. No, but Larry David

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plays himself. Yeah, that's true. Jim belie she got Seinfeld money.

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Yeah, Jim belush. She's like
a contractor, right, he's just like

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in a middle class schlub married to
court Thorne Smith. To be fair,

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there's a lot of people that are
contractors that do fairly well, that are

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living that exact life or just go
to I was just in Tuscaloosa, every

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sec bro was married to somebody that's
an eight or above. Yeah, because

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that's because the market's all fucked up
there. You know what, I mean

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it's all dad body, Dallas looking
motherfuckers' dad body. It's not even dad

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about it's bodies that are just like
a sack of potatoes that were left in

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a bathtub. Nothing of golf polo
can't fix. Yeah, dad body,

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Daddy money. That drive fit does
not it's not drive it it's pika.

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It's a it's a structured shirt that
they're wearing. Yeah, they're gonna they

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keep it on during sex. Yeah, so that's what that's their secret that

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you don't realize. The backwards had
as well. Yes, NI wars hats

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dope, dude, boat choose too
for traction for traction on the boat on

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the boat. According Cling Coward,
you would not be a franchise quarterback because

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I have a backwards hat and you're
wearing a backwards cap right now. What

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can I say, Jake, though
all the makings of a great NFL QB.

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I've always said I would have been
a great QB if we didn't run

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a triple option in high school?
Did you really? Yeah, that's funny.

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Yeah, I played offensive and went
to the academies. Why don't you

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serve? I know, because they
also run a triple lot. Well,

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the idea I just want. Yeah, it's just fucking but they would run

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the triple option. Mostly for sure, they would run the quadruple option.

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They'd had another wrinkle we can't even
conceive. Yeah. Uh so, yeah,

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Chemp replaced Curly at some point,
and he was sort of a dud.

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He actually was an original member,
but before they got famous, he

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left to his own ship. Curly
came in, but anyway, Shemp replaced

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him. I don't know if you
know this, but having a shemp,

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or being a shemp that was the
original jumping the shark, that was jumping

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the shark before jumping the shark.
I've actually heard that term before. Yeah,

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yeah, it's a real shamp.
It's funny you keep saying. I

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don't know if you know this though, because almost exclusively I will not for

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this episode, we schemped up.
Yeah. So like, for example,

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if I left this show, anyone
you replaced me with would be the shemp.

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M it might be a higher quality
product. Actually, what have we

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got someone you know? I might
actually grow. I was reading the comments

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on the Roswell Patreon where we recorded
in Phoenix, and people loved it.

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Me, you and Georgia. Yeah, because we were all too fucking we

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were handed. We were so fucked
up actually kind of funny. I just

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kind of gave up on the topic. Movie. We gave up like thirty

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minutes into it and just started riffing. The one time you guys drink on

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the show, I'm not there.
It was blast. It was a super

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Bowl week and this management week.
Yeah, it was. I remember.

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I know, I know why,
I know what was going on. I'm

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sorry you don't show up the trips. Georgia got me high as ship before

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that too. He's like, you
must smoke. It was like, yeah,

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yeah I do. I'm on vacation. You're lucky, you're alive.

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Dude. No, I say that
because he killed Aaron Carter. He got

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Aaron Carter high Georgia did. Yeah, they're not related, but emphasize enough

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that there's like thirty crickets flying fucking
studio right now. So many, God

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damn insane. It's like we're outside. It's really ridiculous. Side would be

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better. Actually, there's more room
for them to play around. God doesn't

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want us to speak about Curly no
or he does. Every time we get

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off topic, Rob gets hit with
a cricket. Stay on topic. The

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people need to know God supports the
writer as an actress, strike clearly.

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But yeah, being a shemp was
kind of jumping the shark before jumping the

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shark was a thing. So for
example, when to go with the jumping

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the shark person. When Chachi kind
of replaced the Fonds, you know,

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he was a real shimp. Scrappy
doo would be a shimp, scrappy do

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absolute shimp. Basically everyone who ran
the office after Michael Scott a fucking shimp.

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Yeah, definitely a shop So that
is a shamp. Yeah, I'm

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sure you've heard heard it at least
once in your life. But what happened

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to Curley, who was arguably the
most beloved member of the group, what

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happened to him? How do you
die? Well? The Stooges worked a

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lot, okay, like around town, like on film. Between nineteen thirty

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four and nineteen fifty seven, when
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they ended with Columbia Pictures, they
made one hundred and ninety short films.

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Yeah, they probably had a bad
deal, right Cannon. They probably signed

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like a massive extensive contract, like
an imperpetuity contract that's like your ours forever.

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Yeah, as one of our what's
one of our top three cash phrases

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on the show, shit, don't
change, no tales all this time.

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I'll get to that. Okay,
we'll get to that. We'll get to

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that. We'll get to that.
Oh, we'll get to that. None

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of our catchphrase that is kind of
orases because we guess a lot of the

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stuff. It's like, oh,
so what's gonna happen and we're like,

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yeah, we'll get to that.
We'll get to that. We will get

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to that. I wish we start
doing that, but never get to thinks,

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well, it would be funny.
I there's a lot of listeners it's

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a better bit. There's a lot
of listeners who leave reviews that are basically

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like they never get to it.
They never get to it. Fuck you

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gloss over it. That's been our
show. It would be better if we

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don't get to it. It's a
free flowing conversation, that's right. So,

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even though they were with Columbia Pictures
from thirty four to fifty seven,

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Curly would not appear in any Stooges
films After nineteen forty seven. The Stooges

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were insanely popular, so much so
that Columbia head Harry Cohne uh used them

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as leverage against theaters in order to
bully them into showing some of other Columbias

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some of other of Columbias movies.
Oh so we'll pull the Stogies stuff if

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you don't show our other movies.
Yes, damn uh Now Cone would do

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that to get more of Columbia's pictures
in the theaters. The Stugis never knew

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that because he made sure to never
let them know the numbers that they were

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doing. Keep him in the dark. Yeah, make them hungry. He

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somehow kept it from them that they
were the most popular comedy actors. How

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they know? How did people not
just come up to them be like you

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guys are fucking credible. They didn't
get like Curly he's getting like five blow

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jobs a day. And then Harry
Cohnes like, I'm sorry, boys,

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and numbers are down again. You
really popular with Horse sorry, and they

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don't have money for movies. I
actually do the opposite with you guys.

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I don't have the heart to tell
you that we have about fifteen listeners total.

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You're just funding us. I believe
it. I believe it. I

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can't I can't stress enough that we
are being kamikaze by crickets left and right.

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Things don't want to live. Well, it finally reigned in Texas.

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Oh it's really bad. Yeah,
well, they all came in. It's

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kind of like I imagine, it's
kind of like what they did with Tim

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Tebow at UF where it's like,
all right, Tim, you're gonna have

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your own little rim in your own
little major and you're never gonna come out.

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Yeah, except for practice. That
is essentially so. In fact,

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not only did Kohn do that and
withheld how popular they really were, how

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much money they really made for the
studio, how valuable they were to the

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studio. The Stooges also were on
a year to year contract. Oh and

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it had to be renewed at the
end of every year. And at the

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end of every year, Cone would
tell them the numbers were down. Boys,

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they the numbers are down. You're
not John like he used to and

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give them less money. Uh not, well kind of if you adjust for

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inflation. Every single year, Cone
would wait until the last second to renew

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their contracts, and Khne's tactic work
every single year for twenty three years,

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not once from nineteen already four to
nineteen fifty seven, which, by the

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way, I know that's twenty three
years. So that's like two thousand to

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twenty twenty three. And you think, like, but think how much the

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world and the economy and everything changed
between those two years, oh a thousand

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percent. You have the Marshall Plan
take place in that period, World War

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Two, the depression, you have
the Golden Age of capitalism happen. Yeah,

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yeah, all this stuff over those
twenty three years. Not once did

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they ask for a raise because they
believed they were barely worth. He negged

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them, yes, into a great
deal, and they never got one.

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They lost out on millions and millions
of dollars at the time. He's such

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a stand up guy. That's what
he's doing for us, and that he

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really believes in us. That's what's
screwing the studios. Now. All these

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apps have to put out their numbers
to get more investment, Like wait a

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minute, how much are you streaming? Wait a minute, what are you

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paying us? Right, that's why
that's happening. Like, yeah, I

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was gonna say, yeah, if
that sounds for this sounds familiar to you,

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You don't, they don't. I'd
be surprised if any of them break

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even streamers. Yeah, no,
but that's mostly because but that's like any

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other people. Actually, this is
a show biz thing. This is a

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tech things. It's a huge tech
It's the same way, the same shit.

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Uber did, the same shit,
all the food out, it's all

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had their first profitable year. It's
all based off potential. Uber's in the

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black for this first time. I
know. They were. All of our

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rides for a decade were subsidized by
investor money. Yeah, now it's getting

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expensive. Now it's super expensive because
now we're paying what it actually costs.

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00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Yeah, we've been getting a discount
for a decade. They got its hooked

405
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,759
on the product. I remember when
I first took a lift, it was

406
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:38,640
free. Yeah. When they first
showed up here, it was like,

407
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,799
na, man, just hit it. Just get in, baby, get

408
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,920
in on the ACCID. What's the
boyfriends about it? What's the what's the

409
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,359
deal? Guys? Yeah? Smart
Cone By the way, Harry Cone.

410
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,720
I did a little bit more reading
on them, but I didn't do a

411
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,799
ton, not because I didn't want
to talk more about them and stuff.

412
00:27:56,839 --> 00:28:00,200
But are you a cone head?
One of you got he? One of

413
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,640
you? Two? I don't care
which one needs to do an episode on

414
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,160
him. Harry Cone. Let me
put it this way, he makes Harvey

415
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,799
Wine scene look like a feminist interesting. He is the casting couch goat.

416
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:18,400
Okay, uh yeah, one of
us will take that. Harry Cone.

417
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,880
That's what they call me in prison. He said, a conical Harry conic,

418
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,480
Harry conical, fucking penis. Yes, it's very pointy. I didn't

419
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,319
you didn't do anything with it to
anyone. But it's just like you're in

420
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,200
the showers, like hey, Harry
Cone. It's like, oh my god,

421
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,880
yeah, this literal Cone again.
Cone heads. Cone is once said

422
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,599
to have remarked that running a studio
was quote better than being a pimp.

423
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,240
Holy shit. If you want to
know his thoughts on everything, There was

424
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:55,279
no saying the quiet part loud back
then. So yeah, you just said

425
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:56,920
what you wanted. You just said
anything, anything you wanted. Most of

426
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:03,720
Hollywood starlets back then were tragic stories, and Harry Cohne had a part,

427
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:11,400
and they were mostly tragic. I
mean, I'm not nagging anyone's aptitude,

428
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:15,559
but there was a way to get
casted very quickly in Hollywood. Oh and

429
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,640
Harry Cohne partooking it for decades.
Yeah, I'm telling you one of you

430
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,559
two needs to do an episode on
him. He is like again, Harvey

431
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:33,599
Weinstein ain't got nothing. The Gaga
Bradley Cooper movie Stars Born, the Original

432
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:37,359
I believe covers it in great detail. Maybe not Harry Cohne, but like

433
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,200
probably could be. Midwestern girl goes
to make it in the on the big

434
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:47,920
screen and constantly just like every producer
is just a sleeze back. Yeah,

435
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,759
just like you know what gets you
in this movie Daddy's lap, which,

436
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:59,279
like I mean, I guess you
know that's what That's how he did business

437
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:00,240
at the time. Look, I
would suck cock to have a show on

438
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:06,759
TV right now. You gotta be
more specific, Yeah, like an HBO

439
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:14,559
show. Sure, fucking TLC TLC. I don't know, reality softcore history,

440
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:17,599
reality show TLC. You're sucking deck
for that. You're sucking dick for

441
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,000
that show. You wouldn't, No, probably not, absolutely not, because

442
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,880
no one's watching TLC anymore. That
show is just gonna be about these three

443
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,759
guys how to suck dick. Speaking
of the bad contracts and the content on

444
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,039
that station, we've talked about it. Where that girl looks like she's like

445
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:37,079
eleven. Okay, that exact show. Though, what network do you suck

446
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,640
a dick to get it on our
show or her show? Our show?

447
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,119
Uh? I just said it would
probably be a streaming service, yeah,

448
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:52,480
hbo hbo hbo or I don't know, like Comedy Central, because we've always

449
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:56,680
we've always pitched as like Insomniac meets
board Dan. Right, yeah, so

450
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:02,039
it's gonna be it's gonna have to
be on something with out like MPa restrictions.

451
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,960
Yeah maybe maybe yeah, or fax
X whatever. You don't want it

452
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,400
on a stream I think the last
thing you want is a Hulu original.

453
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,240
I mean, you'll take it,
but I won't take it. Fucking no.

454
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,000
Maybe like kiss All French kiss the
producer for that. Okay, that's

455
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,079
fair. Yeah, I think that's
that's a good slide. Like I have

456
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:23,680
a list of a scale, Rob
has a whole four quard four quadrant graund

457
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,799
I'll share you the Google. Would
you pip out your wife first or you?

458
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:37,240
Uh, let's take a way too
long answer. I guess I think

459
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:38,759
I think I know the answer is
not what you just said. Answer.

460
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,680
You said you you thought through the
moral and ethical dilemma context of your answer

461
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,640
and got to it. No,
I think it'd be me. I think

462
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,359
I can I think of the option
we'reund the table from how you just answered

463
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,119
it. I don't know how you
would. I don't know how you would

464
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:57,720
go. Well, Courtney, and
you're listening, I assume, so tell

465
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:01,039
me what you think when you listen
to this episode. And if you don't

466
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:04,440
say anything, we assume you're cool
with it. Yeah. Yeah, if

467
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,720
you don't, if you don't mention
it at all, we assume that you're

468
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:15,119
cool to just go bananas on some
producers Wiener, so dumb, so stupid,

469
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,359
the woman that famously doesn't listen to
our podcasts. Yes, yeah,

470
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:29,039
yes, as another run, you've
said so many traps for really have So

471
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,960
that was not great for the Stooges
that they lost out on millions of dollars

472
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:39,759
again at the time, millions of
dollars not adjusted for inflation. Uh,

473
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:45,839
but also thanks to the popularity of
their particular type of humor, slapstick.

474
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:52,920
Yes, their films had what we're
known literally as violence quotas, so they

475
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,359
had to have a certain amount of
people getting hurt, certain amount of pies

476
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,960
to the face, certain amount of
mounts to the head outs were used quite

477
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,079
often. Yeah, and that's the
problem. They they always had one up

478
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,000
their previous gags kind of like Jackass. Yes, yeah uh and it was

479
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:15,240
just looney Tunes and humans, yeah, and practical effects. The Stooges uh

480
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:21,480
suffered quite a few injuries throughout their
run, and they increased over time.

481
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,880
Injuries like broken ribs, broken noses, teeth, knocked out, concussions.

482
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,319
We should recut an episode of Three
Stooges to the Jackass theme. There,

483
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,759
don't know, it's Curly. I
mean, they were one of the Stooges.

484
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:37,000
They were trying to fake and pull
their punches, but like obviously you

485
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:40,400
do that many fucking films. I
imagine they're drinking the whole time too.

486
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:43,079
No no, no, no,
no, no no. They were totally

487
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:46,079
sober. They were super professional.
That's wild, okay, straight up.

488
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:51,599
Yeah done. Man. Mo would
not allow it. That's pretty cool because

489
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:57,079
probably you'd get way more hurt.
Oh yeah yeah, so yeah, that

490
00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:00,359
was all according to Larry Fine,
like all these all of these in juries

491
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,720
were common during filming The Three Stooges. And again for this hugely successful group,

492
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,960
Curly was the most popular member and
he was one of the most physically

493
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,000
abused on screen, as was his
hair. He was just he looked the

494
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,760
funniest. That had a lot to
do with it. Yeah, and actually,

495
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,840
we're gonna get to what he thought
of his hair. He thought he

496
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:23,599
was a fucking stud. We'll get
to that. Curly was the most popular

497
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:30,639
member, but stardom was not really
great for him. Well no again,

498
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:36,079
like I said, A referenced Belushi
and Farley, kind of the same deal

499
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:39,079
here. Curly, for his character, had a bald and mostly shaved head.

500
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,280
It was one of his calling cards, but having to shave his head

501
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,480
actually made him feel super ugly and
unattractive to women, and that deeply affected

502
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,719
his self esteem. This, along
with their frantic work schedule, led him

503
00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:00,199
to eat and drink to excess to
kind of just drown his sorrows and as

504
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,840
much dope a mean as he could
just bury the self talk. Oh Curly

505
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,320
is not who I thought you're thinking
of, the one with curly hair.

506
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:12,039
That's Larry. Yeah, it's a
bit yeah, got it. Curly means

507
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,559
something different, gotcha, Curly's kind
of balding. Curly. She had to

508
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,239
shave his head. He shaves his
head. He was not balding at all.

509
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,719
He had a good thick head of
hair, but he's kind of the

510
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,039
fatter one. Yes, he's the
fat one. I was picturing the dude

511
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:30,199
with the curly hair. No,
so Mo is the bowl cut who's like

512
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:34,280
the sort of leader, the least
idiot. Larry is I don't know,

513
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,719
just the weird one. And then
Curly is like the They're all stupid,

514
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,559
but Curly's the stupidest. Gotcha,
Okay. I would imagine people at home

515
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:46,360
who are not familiar with the three
stooges like myself, would also think Curly

516
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:52,679
was the one the one was like, yeah, blah blah blah whatever,

517
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:57,239
Yeah, Curly is He's the Chris
Farley the group, is the blue Shi

518
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,760
the group. He's the biggest.
They all do physical comedy. He does

519
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,519
the mool comedy and stuff like that, so you're not all kind of chunky

520
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,760
he but Curley sort of the big
one. He and so this led him

521
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,440
to he was actually like a really
introverted, kind of quiet guy. But

522
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,800
he was so stressed and felt the
need to entertain people and be popular because

523
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,480
he's so famous, that he drank
to kind of bring his personality out and

524
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:29,599
stuff like that let's drag dude,
Like, I can't imagine that being the

525
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,559
personality type fort stardom at all,
an introvert, Like, I'm trying to

526
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:37,760
think of other people that would fit
that bill. A lot of actors,

527
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:43,679
a lot of actors are like weirdos. Yeah, for the weirdos. I

528
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,199
mean, fame has to ruin you
too on a certain level. Especially I

529
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,440
feel like the younger you get it, oh for sure, Like think about

530
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,920
it, like you who's totally chill, like Brian Cranston, Yeah, who

531
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,639
didn't get fair like he was on
Malcolm in the Middle when he was in

532
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:00,119
his like probably late dirties, early
forties. You know, it's kind of

533
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:06,239
chill. McAuley culkin, No,
he was insane for a while. Yeah,

534
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:12,280
he's well adjusted now. He from
decades of therapy. Decades dude,

535
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,960
Like you know who else kind of
had the same thing as McCauley culkin Corey

536
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,480
Hart, You know what happened to
him? He dead? He's dead?

537
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:25,840
Yeah? Or Feldman? Who man
not a person? I don't know.

538
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,440
Frankie Moran has is killing it right
now. He's a racing doesn't remember filming

539
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,760
Malcolm in the Middle. To be
fair, that's from racing. That is

540
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,039
from racing. Yeah, that's the
CT. Yeah, that's the car crashing.

541
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:38,880
But that's wild can match that.
He's on that show for what like

542
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:44,480
seven years a decade. Yeah,
and he doesn't remember it because he's tiny.

543
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:46,960
One of the most underrated television shows. If he gets in a car

544
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,719
crash, like his whole body gets
CT. Yeah, he's a small dude.

545
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,400
A lot of race cards actors are
too. Yeah, a lot of

546
00:37:54,440 --> 00:38:00,199
small actors are very tweet people.
Despite his low self esteem, though specifically

547
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,280
about his looks, like he thought
he was just like hideous to women because

548
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,800
of the haircut in particular. Uh, curly was popular with women actually really

549
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,440
uh yeah, particularly gold diggers looking
to steal his money. Of course,

550
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,960
of course, I was just yeah
because they probably think he's huge. Yeah,

551
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:22,360
well he is. He is as
far as like fame and popularity.

552
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:28,280
He's rolling in it. But he's
getting everyone making good money. Yeah,

553
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,119
Like, don't get me don't get
me wrong, they're making good money.

554
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:36,960
They're just not making anywhere near their
fair share. Right, So they were

555
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,039
just you know, gold diggers trying
to steal his money, and boy did

556
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:46,840
they succeed at that. I mean
every single time except once. Curly was

557
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:53,760
married four times. Uh Moe's son
in law Norman Mauer. Mauer whenever noted

558
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,920
as a quote from Norman. I
think in like a not a biography,

559
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,920
I guess, but like in a
yeah, maybe in a biophy, I

560
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,880
don't know. Norman said of Curly
he was a pushover for women. If

561
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,199
a pretty girl went up to him
and gave him a spiel, Curly would

562
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:13,719
marry her. Then she would take
all of his money and run off.

563
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,079
It was the same. This is
even worse. Honestly, it was the

564
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,440
same. When a real estate agent
would come up and say, I have

565
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,440
a house for you, Curly would
sell his current home and just buy another

566
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,199
one. Very trust in them.
Yeah that's so they weren't doing that bad.

567
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:30,719
He was. Yeah, yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Like he

568
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,440
was making They were making a lot
of money. It's just like, I

569
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,960
don't know, man, imagine if
like if everyone in the Avengers made two

570
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,400
million dollars. Yeah you know what
I mean. Yeah, you're not feeling

571
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,920
bad for them insomuch as like,
well, you're all fucking millionaires, but

572
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,679
it's like you could be making fifty
They should be making a lot more.

573
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,960
Yeah, they're not They're not getting
their fair share, and the Studgies were

574
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:57,880
one of the biggest draws at the
time. So Curly's second marriage, which

575
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,760
produced a daughter, ended in a
horribly bitter divorce in nineteen forty. The

576
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,320
stress from it caused him to gain
a ton of weight and develop hypertension,

577
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:12,960
which, by the way, he
had already been like aggressively drinking and eating

578
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,920
and stuff for six years at this
point dealing with fame. The constant stress

579
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:22,360
of work also had him out all
night getting fucked up. Essentially, you

580
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,639
know, you're shooting twelve hour days. He's like improvising a lot, trying

581
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:29,760
to be funny. His brain is
his brain is going on stop, his

582
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,760
body is going on stop. And
then like you can't just all right,

583
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:37,039
time for bed after that, you
need something to spurn the candle in both

584
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,960
ends. Yeah, it's unfortunate,
but I mean, like anyone that works

585
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,719
really hard hours knows that. Like
I don't. I don't do that often,

586
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,199
but when I've had to put in
like long weeks or shit like that,

587
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,679
Like if you put in like a
twelve thirteen hour day or you're up

588
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,760
until like one in the morning,
working and then you're like, all right,

589
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,000
well I should go to bed now. It's like you're not not gonna

590
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:57,719
happen. Yeah, you need to
like you need something to knock you out.

591
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:02,199
Yeah, and his choice will be
taken a mallet, like a fit

592
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:10,239
of whiskey or something that's rough.
Yeah, every night. So all of

593
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,920
the stressed ship, there's like five
of them. It's fucking they all came

594
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,000
out of the ceiling. I think
they're just I think there's like a colony

595
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,320
up there. It's like ants,
but it's cricket. Crickets have like a

596
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:30,280
beehive they might. Now at this
place, it's called your insulation. Yeah.

597
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:34,079
Yeah, anyway, so yeah,
square up, Doug. Everything was

598
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:38,639
terrible. I mean the act was
popular, but they weren't getting paid enough,

599
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,440
and he was stressed all the time. In fact, the only thing

600
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,199
that ever really brought him joy.
I mean maybe his daughter did, didn't

601
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,800
really say in my research, but
again the softcore history, the only thing

602
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:55,079
up to this point ever really brought
him father was your child children. Don't

603
00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:00,119
know, do your children bringing in
joy? Yes, great joy, great

604
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,800
joy, great joy, much joy, more than we'll ever know. It's

605
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:10,320
non fathers, certainly gotcha. Well, non father, So I'm just gonna

606
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:16,920
assume then with your father expertise,
it's a little joy. Yet there's one

607
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:22,239
other thing that brought him joy.
This is probably his main source of healthy

608
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:29,199
joy, semi healthy joy. Befriending
stray dogs. Oh that's sweet. He

609
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,559
had a kind heart. He did
that all he was. This is like

610
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,440
this guy was like incredibly sweet.
This is becoming more tragic as Yeah,

611
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,679
he just sounds like a moron.
He is really dumb. He's really dumb,

612
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:47,119
way too trusting and always stressed out. Yeah, typically fun episode,

613
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:51,199
they don't go hand in hand.
He's a Usually if you're a moronic or

614
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you know, dumb and successful,
it doesn't stress you out. Usually they're

615
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,760
the most even killed people we know. But he's an introvert. But people

616
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,239
don't want to see the clown cry
dance clown. Just make the hahas happen.

617
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,840
Yeah. So he would pick up
homeless dogs, take them with him

618
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,280
from town to town when they were
touring and until he found a home for

619
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,280
them somewhere. When not performing,
he usually had a few dogs waiting for

620
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,440
him at home as well, just
like dogs he adopted. I thought they're

621
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,960
gonna be on set that they wouldn't
do. Mo actually ran a pretty tight

622
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,119
set. MO wouldn't let him drink
on set. He couldn't drink until after

623
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,840
the after work was done. I
assume he showed up violently hungover. Yeah,

624
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,880
but that's when you're at your best. Was not a lot kind of

625
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:42,159
you're just stripped down. A decade
into their relentless and endlessly stressful Columbia run

626
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:46,559
by nineteen forty four, Curly was
basically a shell of his former self.

627
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:51,559
He had likely already suffered a stroke
at least one, but no one really

628
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:52,840
knew for sure. That was a
great bit you did, Curly, where

629
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,960
you went all limp and started talking
with the weird moniker. Did you just

630
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,519
did the woo woo woo without that
one side of your out so wild?

631
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:05,440
That crazy dude. How do you
think of that? Yeah, don't keep

632
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,960
doing it. That's just the one. After filming Rocking in the Rockies.

633
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:21,119
Uh, Curly was so like visibly
unwell that MO made Curly finally just you

634
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:25,239
know, go to a doctor.
Yeah. Curly was diagnosed with obesity,

635
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,639
hypertension, and a retinal hemorrhage.
Man, I would love God, I

636
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,800
love that obesity is a diagnosis.
It's like, how do you run the

637
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,880
test on that? All right?
Yeah you got that, bro, Yeah

638
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,559
right, yeah, you got it. You just take the height and weight.

639
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:43,840
Yeah yeah, I mean it's it. Yeah. I don't even think

640
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,559
you need to. I think a
lot more rare back. I think you

641
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:47,960
could do an eye test for a
lot of folks, for a lot for

642
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,639
quite a few. Yeah, but
I only trust the eye test. He

643
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,719
was able to become data in your
analytics out of here eye test only grit.

644
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,599
I just need to see it.
Yeah, he was able to become

645
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:05,239
obese by the way. I mean, you know, you're genetically predisposed to

646
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,280
a certain extent, and I think
he was. But I mean think about

647
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,079
the time frame he became obese,
the height of the Great Depression to the

648
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,880
height of World War Two, where
you've got like food rationing and everything like

649
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,920
that. Yeah, he had money, though, he did. He did

650
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:22,119
have money. Easy to be a
fat rich guy. Mo begged, begged

651
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,880
Columbia President Harry Cone to give his
brother some time off to recover, but

652
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:34,280
Cone refused, So they got back
to filming. Get back on that sound

653
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:40,239
stage, idiot, the show goes
on. Yeah, laugh, slave dance

654
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:46,880
Monkey. The Stooges did have five
months off between August nineteen forty five and

655
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,599
January nineteen forty six. They used
that time to book a two month live

656
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:58,280
performance commitment in New York City,
working shows seven days a week. Always

657
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:04,639
be content and always seven days week
is insane too. During their time on

658
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:08,599
the East Coast, Curly met his
third wife, Mary and Bucks Bomb,

659
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:15,519
who he married on October seventeenth,
nineteen forty five, after a two week

660
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:20,280
relationship. Sometimes when you know,
you know and everyone that needs a companion,

661
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,960
this was that mos encouragement because he
was like, maybe a woman will

662
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:29,280
fix you, though the last two
have destroyed you. Yeah. Yeah,

663
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,280
Actually the first one, his first
wife was pre fame and they just got

664
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,480
divorced. Then the second wife they
left on good terms. Maybe the first

665
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:43,039
one, I doubt divorce was good
terms. Ever, in this time period

666
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:47,199
there's divorces like that was pretty intense. Really, it's it's almost like murdering

667
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:51,000
your wife now essentially, Yeah,
like you don't do it. Yeah,

668
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:54,639
you're you're abandoning this woman. Yeah
uh during yeah, so he married her

669
00:46:54,639 --> 00:47:00,119
after two weeks. By nineteen forty
six, Curly's voice was completely shot and

670
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:05,480
he could barely remember his lines because
his brain was so fried from drinking and

671
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:12,000
strokes. That'll do it. But
the work went on, but his marriage

672
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:16,519
did not, and the divorce proceedings, uh with how long was the third

673
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:21,000
marriage? Like? Nine months?
Is that less than a year? The

674
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,800
curly starting to sound like Lee Corso
right now they just wheel him out.

675
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,239
It's like do the thing, put
the mascot head. That is essentially how

676
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:34,199
it h That's tragic right now,
it's hard to watch it. That's like

677
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,280
Herb Streets, a total pro.
I'm glad they sit him next to him

678
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,559
for sure. It's like put him
off the pasture. He gets the team

679
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:45,199
wrong every time he talks. It's
nuts. It's not it's not great.

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Sorry, So the divorce proceedings in
this one where especially bitter a The

828
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,320
press coverage was really sensational and bad. Believe it or not, this was

829
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,639
not great for Curly's already horrible stress
and stroke addled brain. Get out.

830
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:45,000
Really yeah. Also check it out
the media and news sensationalism. It's not

831
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:49,400
new. No, no, people
like I can't believe this. Amber heard

832
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:57,119
Johnny Depp divorce forever. Yeah.
They probably dragged this poor moronic buffoon through

833
00:57:57,159 --> 00:57:59,360
the mud. I mean, think
about this. This is the nineteen forty

834
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,159
six. You don't even got ward
report anymore. Gott a report on some

835
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,559
stories. Yeah, it's give us
a smut. Yeah? Oh god damn.

836
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:14,360
Marion Slop likely outright lied during the
divorce proceedings to get as much money

837
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,719
as possible. And by the way
they got married, she was a bitch

838
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,960
to him the entire time, and
he tried to keep winning her affection by

839
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,639
spending basically all of his money on
jewelry trips for coades blah blah blah.

840
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:29,880
She was just racking that all up
and then swept the card. Is he

841
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,719
paying alimoney for all of his ice
wives. I don't know, probably imagine

842
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,840
he was close to bankruptcy. This
man was living in a shoebox. He

843
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:45,000
was not living well. But Marian
likely outright lied during the proceedings. He

844
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:47,639
was as much money and sympathy as
possible, she claimed, and I quote

845
00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:52,599
he used filthy, vile language.
He kept two vicious dogs. He shouted

846
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:57,800
at waiters and cafes, struck and
kicked me, and put out cigars in

847
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,480
the sink. The last one does
and fit. The last one is so

848
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,159
like what oh yeah, that was
another thing, by the way, he

849
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:09,280
smoked cigars like he was fucking Ulysses
in his grand constant cigar smoker. That's

850
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,159
smoking a pack of cigars. It's
gonna clock the drains. Yeah, he's

851
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:15,920
putting it out in the sink.
Can't do that. Yeah, I mean,

852
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:22,519
I guess it's unsightly, but like
all the other things are well.

853
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:27,440
Everyone who knew him completely disputed that. Yeah, you kind of YadA YadA

854
00:59:27,519 --> 00:59:30,280
YadA the strike and hit me,
yeah, because it was likely all bullshit,

855
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:34,320
like he was like a big sweetheart. Everyone was like, this is

856
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:40,400
and this woman again notorious liar.
Yeah, basically he was getting taken for

857
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:45,239
everything. He was worth and again
like like the guy said Norman whatever in

858
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:51,239
the whatever biography. Uh he was
like I mean he was any. As

859
00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:52,800
soon as a pretty girl came up
to him, he would just do whatever

860
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,960
she said. I think there was
a lot of people back in the forties

861
00:59:57,639 --> 01:00:01,960
like our grandparents U their parents before
then. I don't think they dated much.

862
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:09,320
No, I think it was hey
a second, Yeah, what about

863
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:14,000
it? You're stuck. I mean, how do you even meet people?

864
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,280
How do you it's people in your
town. It's just the people in your

865
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,360
town. It's usually always how it's
been. I guess that's true to an

866
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:27,000
extent. You're not meeting people elsewhere. I mean, it's one thing if

867
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,000
you're in you know, he grew
up in I think New York, so

868
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:31,679
that's fine, but LA for most
people, especially if you're outside of a

869
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:37,119
city. Holy shit, that's that
I'm thinking from like small Route USA.

870
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:42,920
Yes, city boys over here.
Yeah, we're just sliding through pussy.

871
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:49,840
Sure you know what I mean.
I guess I don't know. You don't.

872
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,159
I didn't get laid until I left
Pennsylvania. It's funny because I lost

873
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:58,000
my V card before all of us
Yeah, combined, he was seven,

874
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:04,920
I was very young. It actually
wasn't legal for you. Do you want

875
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,239
to talk about it? Not with
you? Okay, okay, not doing

876
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,760
this bit anymore, that's fine.
But if you subscribe to our Patreon you

877
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,320
can call in and ask about it. At the time Jake was assaulted,

878
01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:22,000
it's not a laughing matter. None
of this episodes labatter. It's really not.

879
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,000
None of our episodes really are ever
the subject matter never supposed to be

880
01:01:27,039 --> 01:01:29,199
funny. Yeah, it's never a
good We don't never really have like a

881
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:35,559
happy story on the show. Yeah, Stubby Timothy Dexter, that was fun

882
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:38,440
He locked his wife in an attic, said she was a ghost. That

883
01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:42,280
was kind of funny. Though it
was fun it's kind of funny for us

884
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,000
objective us objectively funny through the lens
of the present. There's a lot of

885
01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:49,599
other things that happened in Lafe before
that. All right, I will say

886
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,840
Stubby is of just a feel good
story. All right, it doesn't feel

887
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,639
good. That's tell our most feel
good story. Now, let's get to

888
01:01:55,719 --> 01:02:00,480
the least feel good part of this
episode. How do he die? How'd

889
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:07,519
he died his fourth wife? There
are fates worse than death to live on

890
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:14,880
in eternity like in carbonates. We're
getting we're getting to the parts inspired me

891
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,360
to write this episode. Okay to
the part where I was like to go

892
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:22,079
back to the whole working conditions thing. Did they upload him to the cloud

893
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:27,840
and he has to make like dumb
slaps Jimmy Stewart ghosts for PEPSI from from

894
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:31,880
spare Bedroom by it now on I
doude he's an Ai ghost? No,

895
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:40,880
not an AI ghost? Where's my
family? Why? On May sixth,

896
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:50,519
nineteen forty six, while filming Halfwits
Holiday, Curly suffered a massive stroke on

897
01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:54,360
set while sitting in the chair and
the director chair Jules White's chairs. He

898
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,840
was the director. He just took
a seat in the chair. Sit down.

899
01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:00,400
Uh. They were shooting the last
scene of the day, last scene

900
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,239
at the time. Don't let it
stop him and Curly keep it rolling.

901
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,079
Curly had just scrabbed to see what
they were about to shoot the last scene.

902
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:09,480
Keep it rolling, boys. They
put him on strings. They were

903
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:19,480
he's a ventroke withal Now Curly had
this massive debilitating stroke and no one noticed

904
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:24,920
that meets he was in such shit
condition, Like if you have a massive

905
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:30,320
stroke and no one catches on either
everyone's just so well, no one noticed

906
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,360
for a little bit, No Curly
over there, actual at odd. Finally,

907
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,599
the assistant director called for Curly to
take the stage to shoot the final

908
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:40,679
scene with the other two stooges,
and he didn't answer, didn't answer,

909
01:03:40,679 --> 01:03:45,719
didn't answer. Uh fucking diva.
Mo went looking for his brother, found

910
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:51,599
him sitting in the chair. His
head was dropped into his chest and his

911
01:03:51,679 --> 01:03:57,519
mouth was distorted. He was looking
very strokey, essentially cartoonishly stroke. Yeah,

912
01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:05,480
just like Curly could not speak or
move. He just sat there in

913
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:11,280
horrifying pain as tears streamed down his
face, frozen in the director's chair.

914
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,840
I don't get this one, Curly, this bit isn't funny. Uh So

915
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:23,280
everyone immediately rushed like Curly had a
stroke and he's crying, he's frozen in

916
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:28,679
pain, and everyone immediately rushed to
rework the scene so that they could do

917
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,159
it without Curly, And yeah,
I mean he's already fucked up, Like

918
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,239
what's another ten minutes, right?
And also they called an ambulance attention,

919
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,400
you know what I mean. So
they were like, okay, okay,

920
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:43,559
you call an ambulance, will rewrite
the scene to shoot it without Curly because

921
01:04:43,559 --> 01:04:47,320
we obviously can't stop production, right, it's just not it's grind culture.

922
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:53,440
Cone won't let us, Harry Cohne
won't let us grind grind grind, which

923
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,280
respect I guess I mean, like
you said, Mo runs a tight ship.

924
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,639
Yeah, so I guess he got
time for your stroke, Curly.

925
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:05,199
It's no time for a stroke boy. After filming was over, Mo,

926
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,840
by the way, I don't I
don't know if I mentioned this, but

927
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,199
Mo and Curly are like literal brothers. Yeah you didn't. I I was

928
01:05:12,239 --> 01:05:15,079
kind of curious because, like,
so we had another brother too that came

929
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:17,760
into play later. Larry was not
one of the Howard brothers, okay,

930
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:23,440
but Mo and Curly and Shamparral were
all literal brothers. They could have actually

931
01:05:23,519 --> 01:05:27,440
just had all three beat brothers in
the three Shuoges. I believe they were,

932
01:05:27,519 --> 01:05:29,519
but I don't remember. No,
But I'm saying, like, if

933
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,480
Sheep is also their brother, why
did they bring in this Larry fellow.

934
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,440
He's just that good. He just
part of the troupe, baby like that

935
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:40,280
had to clearly that calls tension within
the family. Now, No, Shemp

936
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,039
wanted to go do his own ship
for a while. I bet he didn't

937
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:45,280
want to No, he did.
He was not fired. I bet there

938
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:50,280
was an issue. He left before
they got big family gatherings Christmas, Thanksgiving,

939
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:55,800
maybe after they got big. Yeah, he was probably really salty.

940
01:05:56,039 --> 01:06:00,519
I think Shemp was just the damon
wayans Uh. Yeah, you know,

941
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:06,400
doing his own thing. I don't
get it. So anyway, they kept

942
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:12,239
filming, finished the scene, and
then Mo went to whatever hospital his like

943
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,559
half dead brother had been taken to, but of course finished filming first,

944
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,280
right Harry Cohin wouldnt let him do
anything else. Real professional, you only

945
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:25,079
have so much studios on uh.
And then two months after that stroke,

946
01:06:25,159 --> 01:06:30,320
his divorce was finalized. Perfect Curley
was never able to work again. He

947
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,079
made like one or two cameos,
but that was it. Did not really

948
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:39,039
ever work again. He made cameo
he came back to set and they were

949
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:45,119
like, oh, we should just
have you in a golf Yeah, we

950
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:53,400
did recover. He only talked in
that who well. At the end of

951
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,840
his life he was unable to communicate. After several more strokes. Oh god,

952
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,880
he had more. He had the
lenin. He had almost as many

953
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,719
strokes as films. He had more
strokes than wives. No, definitely had

954
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,719
more strokes than wives. He had
hundreds of strokes. I mean he had

955
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:11,760
little mini strokes. You do.
You aren't more prone to them once you

956
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,599
start having them, yea, after
the first you survived more than like three.

957
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:20,519
I don't know this one. In
the fucking forties he did, however,

958
01:07:20,679 --> 01:07:24,679
I'll make them like they used to. They don't. Despite not being

959
01:07:24,719 --> 01:07:27,039
able to work full time. He
did, however, get married again.

960
01:07:28,679 --> 01:07:32,119
Of course, someone married him,
is what I'm saying. It's time to

961
01:07:32,199 --> 01:07:36,639
the only woman that ever loved him
because he's in a vegetative state. Valerie

962
01:07:36,639 --> 01:07:42,039
Newman in nineteen forty seven and high
school sweetheart. I don't just some woman

963
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:47,719
and they've actually fell in love and
they had a kid. Whoa, they

964
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:55,760
milked the vegetable They had a daughter
in nineteen forty eight. Hmm, that's

965
01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:00,599
cool. Little silver line. There
was a there's a hotline question about like,

966
01:08:00,639 --> 01:08:03,360
what famous person would you like from
history? Would you like to see

967
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:12,519
the sex stape of this one?
Morbid curiosity? Yes, okay, it's

968
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:15,039
up there. Uh well he did. I mean, look it's not he

969
01:08:15,079 --> 01:08:17,039
wasn't just a I mean, he
was in a wheelchair for a while,

970
01:08:17,079 --> 01:08:20,439
but he did recover a little bit. Uh, it wasn't imagine his first

971
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,560
wife loved him. He wasn't big
yet. He wasn't big yet, but

972
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,159
they didn't get divorced. And look, it should be noted like during his

973
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:30,359
retirement and all the post stroke stuff. For a while, there was a

974
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:35,319
little bit of time with Valerie where
he lived, and a nice little life

975
01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:40,039
with his daughter, and they had
a pool in the in their nice house

976
01:08:40,119 --> 01:08:46,560
and stuff like that. But unfortunately
he kept smoking cigars. The strokes kept

977
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:51,520
coming. You know, it sounds
I don't know how how do he just

978
01:08:51,640 --> 01:09:00,479
keep doing all the things? Yeah, eventually he became like two. I

979
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,000
just like he couldn't even keep him
in a nursing home anymore because he was

980
01:09:03,039 --> 01:09:08,199
so gone. But like, I
don't know, was combative with the nurses

981
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:13,319
and stuff like that. Finally,
in nineteen fifty two, he died at

982
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:17,319
the age of forty eight. His
brain probably melted off his ears. Dude,

983
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,840
Like, what do you mean his
brain was goop? Car accident?

984
01:09:23,119 --> 01:09:26,840
No, for real, he was
driving, he was how the fun was

985
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:32,000
I'm kidding? He just fucking completely
de Yeah, I once you hit the

986
01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:36,439
triple digis, Yeah, it's rough. I I kind of want to make

987
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:42,319
a really sad movie about this,
right, Like you know, I'm already

988
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:45,479
thinking of what the track is,
like the trailer track, I'm thinking,

989
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,600
like, my body is a cage. I was thinking of something horrific the

990
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,840
entire time when you kind of yeah, but I get why he's saying it's

991
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,560
like there's a fete worse than death. It's because your body literally is in

992
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,000
this instance, you're for the fucking
prison. For the last while of his

993
01:09:58,039 --> 01:10:01,039
life, he could not communicate beyond
squa easing mos handy. At one point

994
01:10:01,079 --> 01:10:06,680
he was he started crying because he
couldn't say anything or communicating that that was

995
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,880
this was after that, he still
boned. He mean, he got to

996
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,439
the point where he couldn't speak,
couldn't do anything. And I mean so

997
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,199
in nineteen fifty two he was forty
eight, right, So in nineteen thirty

998
01:10:17,239 --> 01:10:19,680
two, what he was twenty eight, So, I mean this started his

999
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:26,479
strokes started like in his mid thirties, late twenties something that no mid thirties,

1000
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,640
mid thirties, that's so rough,
man, Like, I just that's

1001
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:38,079
so brutal and at all. A
huge part of it was essentially fame played

1002
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:41,760
a big part, but essentially a
very big part of it was there just

1003
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,000
like absolutely brutal work schedule. Yeah, I mean that's definitely part of it

1004
01:10:46,079 --> 01:10:51,279
for sure. I think, yeah, when you're doing seven shows, fuck

1005
01:10:51,319 --> 01:11:00,039
you come on, dude, fucking
it's fine shore we go, oh god,

1006
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:05,840
damn, we're fighting crickets like we're
little little fists at dude. They

1007
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,680
keep coming. Yeah, that one
like covered right in front of us,

1008
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,880
Like try me, they're mocking us. Damn insane. Anyway, seven days

1009
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,039
in a row, tons of shows. You're working twelve hour days like,

1010
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,720
and when they're not filming, they're
doing live shows. I don't know how

1011
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,159
people do this kind of work just
in general, because like I don't know,

1012
01:11:21,319 --> 01:11:25,960
you talk to people that have it
works off job wise, right like

1013
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,399
where they're like doing a hard labor
or twelve thirteen hours a day and they

1014
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,039
just never quit and you're like,
dude, I think i'd just be okay

1015
01:11:32,039 --> 01:11:35,479
being hungry for a little bit.
Like I couldn't do that. I mean,

1016
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,399
I can't speak for people who do
like construction and stuff like that,

1017
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,319
but at least there's something like,
I don't know, you're doing physical labor,

1018
01:11:43,399 --> 01:11:46,359
so maybe to an extent, you're
like healthier, Well you're healthier,

1019
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,640
and also like you're not get the
vitamin D, have a little energy.

1020
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,880
Yeah, you're you can go to
the end. You can go home at

1021
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:57,680
the end of the day. May
be like you leave, whereas he was

1022
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,479
like a doing physical work, you're
getting smashed in the fucking face. And

1023
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:06,119
there's a rule booker like instructions,
but also just like the mental stress of

1024
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:11,760
always having to think of like new
jokes and then and then yeah, when

1025
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,560
you're out and about, you have
to be on. No construction worker has

1026
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:16,840
to be on when they leave.
They can say, hey, hey Jim,

1027
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,039
do the jackhammer thing. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, not that being

1028
01:12:20,039 --> 01:12:25,560
a comedians harder than being fucking physical
laborer. But in terms of this person's

1029
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,720
particular mental stress, I think you
see it a lot like Okay, I

1030
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:33,760
guess I'll cat off. You know, it's crazy too mean, the one

1031
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:39,000
way you say, hey, nice
titties, I don't have the heart to

1032
01:12:39,079 --> 01:12:41,039
do it. Yeah, man,
I'm not in it. I'm not on

1033
01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:42,479
the clock. I don't even know
you. I'm not on the clock.

1034
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:47,680
Yeah, I can't even imagine.
Like I think that also does kind of

1035
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:53,560
speak to like the way celebrities are
treated here, especially maybe worldwide, I'm

1036
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:58,720
not sure, but like people see
people on a screen and they think they

1037
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,439
have a personal relationship up with them
because they've affected their lives and emotions in

1038
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:05,239
a certain way. Right, So
like it's got to be worse now with

1039
01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:11,199
like the ability to DM a celebrity
and like the access that people get too

1040
01:13:11,279 --> 01:13:14,720
much. I also think daily content
is deeply unhealthy. You should not be

1041
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,439
creating. You can do an act
the same act over and over again for

1042
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,239
new audiences and stuff like stand ups, do from town to town and stuff

1043
01:13:20,279 --> 01:13:24,960
like that night like you should because
at least you're perfecting something, right,

1044
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:30,800
dude, it is not fucking healthy
to do. Try to be I cannot

1045
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:33,159
yeah funny or whatever every day.
Yeah, we used to do that.

1046
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:40,720
It's hard and stucked. It's you're
hitting your well the bottom of it once

1047
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,399
a week, like three times a
day for every day for four years.

1048
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,960
Not fun, it's not. It
does not bring out the best people,

1049
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,800
no, And it's then people are
like, well, long form content's debt,

1050
01:13:54,039 --> 01:13:59,560
so we need quick bits long form
content. It's funny too that that's

1051
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,119
the case, because long form content
shouldn't be dead. Because there's more talent

1052
01:14:02,119 --> 01:14:05,039
than ever, so you should just
have more long form content than ever,

1053
01:14:05,359 --> 01:14:10,560
and all these people should just not
have to be making Yeah no, it's

1054
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,319
not to like avoid work whatever.
But he's just like, yeah, the

1055
01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:15,359
best things I've read or long form
right, Still, the best pieces of

1056
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:21,880
art are long form. It's TikTok. Yeah, But I mean not to

1057
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:27,439
say that there aren't memes that make
a chef kiss. But whatever, what'd

1058
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:32,079
you guys learn today? I'm sad. I learned that this poor man just

1059
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,239
had his life ruined by fame and
working conditions. I guess, had his

1060
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:41,520
life made and ruined. I learned
that Curly was the fat though he did

1061
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,880
learn that Hitler is Harry Cone.
Well, yeah, we haven't really learned

1062
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,279
what he did, but just from
what you alluded to, I would imagine

1063
01:14:48,279 --> 01:14:51,039
he's Hitler even what he did to
them. Yeah, just in general,

1064
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:58,119
bottom, that's just that's show bizz
baby, that's the business. And you

1065
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:01,920
don't think that's happening now all the
time, constantly happening, especially with like

1066
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:09,880
sponsorships, Stephen podcast and everything.
There's I mean everywhere I've worked and even

1067
01:15:10,039 --> 01:15:15,159
this job included when I everyone gets
stressed from stuff. Right, there's a

1068
01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:19,920
constant reminder for myself where it's like
I'm not saving lives, like this isn't

1069
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:24,960
going to ruin anything. Get fuck
up or no one will remember you.

1070
01:15:25,239 --> 01:15:28,319
Yeah. And speaking of that,
we have a brand new shirt out we

1071
01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:30,720
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1072
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,079
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1073
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:39,279
on the YouTube so t shirt right
here. Yeah, what are yours today?

1074
01:15:39,399 --> 01:15:42,520
Yeah? We also have a few
more designs in the in the chambe

1075
01:15:43,159 --> 01:15:45,279
coming. But no one will remember
you. It's the most important thing you'd

1076
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:47,960
ever learned. Yeah, So when
you're stressing out about work, just remember,

1077
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,720
don't because no one else will.
Yeah. I was actually while researching

1078
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,600
this today. I do this all
the time, and it's it's really like

1079
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:04,439
reassuring or whatever. I Harry Cohne's
funeral the comedic comedian, I don't know,

1080
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:10,159
comedic voice whatever, comedian Red Skellington. I think his name is said,

1081
01:16:10,279 --> 01:16:13,000
uh, well, like it's a
fake name. It might have been

1082
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:17,279
a stage name, Red skelling I
certainly hope it is a stage name.

1083
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:23,920
He was eulogizing Harry Cohne and uh, and like everyone from Hollywood was there,

1084
01:16:24,359 --> 01:16:27,760
and and Red Skellington, I guess
was a huge comedian at the time

1085
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,920
and for a long time too,
had like a very popular radio show from

1086
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,680
like the thirties to the early nineties. And I was just like, I

1087
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,560
never heard of this guy. He
was probably huge. There were probably people

1088
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,279
who were like, that is my
guy. That is my sense of humor,

1089
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:45,079
that is everything the same way you
might think of, you know,

1090
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,479
the way I would think of like, uh, Trey Parker and Matt Stone

1091
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,520
or like Tina Fey with dirty rock. People like probably saw him like that's

1092
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,000
me, that's my voice that I
identify with this person. And I was

1093
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,439
like, I don't who the fuck
this is. Charlie Chaplin got his whole

1094
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:02,760
look swaggerjacked by a genocide, genocidal
maniac. M But I see what you're

1095
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,119
saying where it's like there's someone that
was probably superfluent. There's plenty of influential

1096
01:17:06,119 --> 01:17:11,720
people for their time that don't they're
not remembered, right, yeah, right,

1097
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,039
And he was not as big as
Curly and the Three Stooges, who

1098
01:17:15,039 --> 01:17:17,680
were still remembered fairly well to this
day. But like, give it give

1099
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,439
it another fifty years for the three
students, one hundred years for three students.

1100
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:26,800
It's incredibly difficult to have a lasting
impact in anything you do. Yeah,

1101
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,920
yeah, no one, I remember
you suggest relax a little bit,

1102
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,000
just take a pree your life.
You ain't Napoleon. Yeah, have a

1103
01:17:33,039 --> 01:17:36,560
beer. And by the way,
given Napoleon three thousand years, see him

1104
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,439
gives a shit about him? Yeah, three thousand years on a geological given

1105
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,159
a point two hundred years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But that's all

1106
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:49,399
I got for today. Uh,
Jake Goldman and David way to grow the

1107
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,239
reviews, right? We did for
Dan Yeah, for David Jester and Jake

1108
01:17:53,279 --> 01:17:56,479
Goldman. I am Rob Fox,
and for all the crickets in the studio

1109
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,079
as well. You just got saw
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