Welcome to you, softcore History. What is up? Welcome back to softcore
History. I am your host for the week, Rob Fox. As always,
I am joined by Jake Goldman and Dan Rochester. How's it feel to
be second bro? Symbolic for life, always the second choice? Are you
the second child? Are you the oldest? I'm the oldest? Okay that
I know of that? Yeah, you know, Dad was doing your dad's
like Mario, just down to the pipes, banging princesses. It's not a
plumber though, sewer princesses. Yeah, a little less skilled than a plumber.
No offense, Dad, he didn't go to trade school. You played
baseball a community college. That's sick. It is Duco baseball players are legit
the Delaware County or Delaware Community College fantoms. I believe that's a good name.
That is a good name. It's better than like the Cougars or something.
Yeah, Tigers, Tigers we used to be and ticket holders for the
minor league hockey team in Philadelphia. Oh gods, the fantoms that had to
be just like I feel like I saw the ninety eight Colder Cup. I
was in a fucking Phantom's commercial. How many people every game got stabbed by
a broken bottle. It's got it's gotta be. I'm thinking, like over
under nine and a half double digits. We're not here to talk about your
traumatic childhood hockey memory, you say, or honestly, maybe cherished childhood hockey.
Honestly, one of the best moments left the ninety eight Colder Cup.
It's like what you just had, like a Canadian hillbilly. Yeah, like
you just grew up an hour outside of fucking Calgary. I was seven.
You know, when like you go to a small town where people care about
the high school football team. It's on the water tower. Yeah, and
it's like, dude, no one outside of the city cares about this,
right, but it meant something to me, damn it. I mean the
Soul one inn AFL title. Nobody blanked. It's the Big three Football's one,
right, Always trying to flip flop between baseball and basketball, Yeah,
because like between what is like, I mean it's a flowers when the Stanley
Cup, it's kind of a big deal. But a lot of I would
say, yeah, you're in the Northeast, Yeah, but I would say
it's a lot of Bandwagon fans, right, bandwagon the Blues in twenty nineteen.
It happens. I'm like, I'm a casual and then there's plenty of
hockey fans, but I don't think they go outside of their arena when it
comes to other sports. Like if somebody that's a Flyers fan in Philadelphia's probably
not a six Ers fan. It's such a grim existence to be an NHL
first fan, Like you're kind of a lunatic. If you're hockey first.
Now you're kind of a psycho. Make one of your best memories minor league
hockey. And that's what I'm saying. So if it's like a minor league
team, it's that's very letter Kenny Juniors. Yeah, it's like a trailer
park boys situations. It's it's aggressive. But enough of that before we get
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let's get into this week's episode, as everyone I'm sure is aware,
Uh, there is both the writers and actors strike going on right now.
Yeah, blah blah blah. We don't really need to get into why that's
happening. I'm gonna give our hard and fast opinions on right yea rather or
not it's justifying. Yeah, I'm not gonna get into, uh what that's
about, but to fights it to say no, I want you to remove
yourself from the guild and make yourself a social pariah. I'm not in the
guild. I don't know, but I want you to do it. I
do have a script registered with w GA West, a pilot script, but
that's it. I'm not a guild member myself. I want you to get
blackballed, probably already. So these are not my opinions. But Rob off
my told me that they are spoiled and that they deserve minimum wage if you
could even call what they do work, I believe it's Yeah, he was
just going in on him. I wish you could be here before the podcast
recording and I being labor sympathized, but we know the struggle of a blue
collar man. Yeah, Rob doesn't. He's the heroical parents were lawyers,
very wealthy, incredibly wealthy, private schools. I've seen his home. It's
fucking picturesque. It's very American dream in the sub in the outskirts of it.
I don't know that your eyes were open at my house. They were
when I've got there. The first time they were when the sun opened up
through the plantation shutters. It was, yeah, you're you're live in help
was very kind to me. I don't know. I don't know if you
guys think this bit wounds me, but I just enjoy people thinking I'm like,
incredibly wealthy. Don't you take once you lean back into your chair and
enjoy the episode. Yeah, you two just make up a history about here's
what happened with history about Rob's life. Well, again, that's a technical
guy. I would like you to be in focus this entire episode. I
am comfortable like this today. And I told you this is how I was
gonna live. I said, as you were framing up, this is I'm
gonna live today. Oh my god, it's on you. It's so on
you, on your back. I hope it's poisoned. It's really on you.
I'll yeah, welcome back. We are within the cricket house. We're
guess, yeah, our studio has never been sprayed for pests, so I
guess there's worse things than crickets. But oh yeah, I mean scorpions for
sure. But they're they're here too. They and it's so weird. Every
time I have a joke that falls flat, they start chirping really loud.
Yeah, it's kind of like a built in shit test, you know,
it's a built in bit. Yeah. They're actually robotic, kind of like
how people think birds aren't real. I just have a ship in my crickets
here. It was on your nuts, inserted for a comedic effect. They're
huge. These things are well fed. They're like locusts. They're just loading
up on hard af where all the spiders. They might have taken out the
spiders. Bro, God damn it. They're like Mecca. This is why
every time my wife is like a spider, I need you to kill them,
Like where is it? Because there's a lot of spiders I would like
to leave in place, tactical spiders. Yeah, a lot of tactical spiders
outside they're staying. Yeah hell yeah, man, unless it's like legitimately something
like a black widow or something unless it's that I'm fucking leaving it. We
should seriously think about setting off a tactical nuke in the studio. We have
the smoke bomb almost set it off the other day. According to Holloway.
No, according to our veteran, that you really. He said, as
long as the pin's not removed here, you could throw that against the wall.
I think it makes a lot of sense considering they have to travel in
crates across long distances. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, strike's going on.
Whatever I used to say, I'm not gonna talk about what it's about
or whatever, but suffice it to say, what it's not about really is
talent working conditions. Yeah right, they're not really Like, no one's getting
sucked into machinery, as you said earlier. They just get catered their soft
Yeah, breakfast launching dinner seems like an easy gig. Well, I was
gonna say, seg has not actually had a strike about working conditions since the
nineteen fifties. Oh and look, it's not you know, actors. It
was more about actors and writers. But actors like they worked twelve hours a
day and maybe sometimes they're director or producers mean to them or jerks off in
front of them or something like that, you know, at a party,
finds a plant, crimes in it. Whatever. But unless you're a method
actor, overall, it's a pretty great job as long as you're working,
Like being an actor's like a dope job. So working conditions haven't really been
a like an overall all industry problem. It's like, you know, people
have bad productions and stuff, but whatever, But holy shit, did working
conditions for actors used to be insane? Well The Wizard of Oz Lady with
Judy Garland, so it was all running gun from the hip and by that
I mean get on my hips mostly mostly be truly creative too with some of
the stunts and how to get shots. Especially before Citizen Cane. Oh,
it was all uh what do you call it? Not digital practical effects.
Yeah, it was all practical effects. It was all fucking you know,
it was all like hardware. It was all like you had to do fucking
every It was like Christopher Nolan right when he found out it was cheaper to
crash an actual plane than CGI the player sent off a real nuke in Oppenheimer.
Yeah, Christopher Nolan is one of is a nuclear power, like what's
his sin copy then they signed off sign him having nukes. Yeah, it's
fine for the movie. Yeah, But so I actually wrote in here,
I was like everyone kind of vaguely knows about Judy Garland. Everyone knows that
she was like like the studios were just giving her like cigarettes and meth starting
at the age of like twelve, and working her twenty hours a day.
Gotta keep her thin. She was chemically woken up and chemically put back the
bed. Gotta keep her thin. She's only allowed to eat like one grape
a day. You know, a lot of black face basically mostly how Silly
and Murphy did for Oppenheimer, but he was doing it by choice. What
was this shit? Like I ate an almond today that was like his own.
It's like, you were already skinny, dude, Killian, you were
already fucking skinny. That was the best part of the movie. We knew
this going into Oppenheimer didn't really eat much, but they really threw it in
your face, like, hey, APPI, here's a fruit, like an
orange is really gonna do some fucking damage to you. Yeah, that's really
that's substance right there. That's gonna keep the weight on the fucking five calorie
orange. Yeah, that's sugar man. Just get him high though, right,
But yeah, everyone everyone kind of knows about Judy Garland. Uh so
I'm not talking about Judy. That's a that's two, that's almost two.
Instead, ready to talk about another star from that time period, a star
who is in some ways A was one of the most famous people of the
time period. And b was sort of like the original kind of John Belushi
or Chris Farley, the original fat man, the original sort of bigger guy
who did physical comedy, the abbot. No, I was unaware of fat
people before the nineteen forties. They were they were there. Well, there
was Fatty Arbuckle that we're not talking about him, but his name was Before
processed foods, they still had sugar and alcohol off. They were a lot
dinner. The end though, for this person was somehow much much worse than
Belushi and Farley, and it was drect directly related to working conditions. Damn,
it's worse than Farley. Have you seen his fucking death picture? Uh,
I'm gonna call it now. Was a set light kind of dangling and
it fell off and decapitated him. He wishes, oh he wishes. Who
was this man we're talking about Curly from the Three Stooges. Oh, yes,
I'm not unaware of how he died. I never cared to look into
it. Are you guys familiar with The Three Stooges at least? Yeah,
so hopefully. I guess he was a method actor himself. He was actually
just that Zwinky we'll get into that. Yeah, so you know which one
it is, too, right? The guy it's like, yeah, yeah,
he was the most famous one. He was his head's chopped off,
by the way, the most famous comedian of his era. No training and
anything whatsoever. No no improv classes, no fucking just a natural born talent.
Yeah kind of really, I mean he only played the one character,
but yeah, that's someone that's been to a full course load of improv in
school. You don't need it, you never got it, or you don't
maybe it's it's very true. I saw people go through it. God that
uh people going to a local troop show is maybe the most pain inducing thing
I said to me in the middle of year show. I was say,
imagine being in it. Yeah, it's even worse. Dan turned to whisper
me, do we whisper to me. He was like, this is the
worst thing I've ever fucking seen. And I was like, dude, it's
only been Jake on the stage so far. Know. No, he was
like, I never went to Jake's. But I did go to one when
I was dating a girl to see her friend, and in the middle of
groups there was just this like lesbian girl that did, uh these twirly kind
of spinner drape things or ribbon dancing, Like she ribbon danced, and I
didn't know. I thought it was a bit At first. I was the
only person laughing because everybody else like was there to joke around. But she
was dead serious. Well you can't, that's that's on the show runner.
Yeah, you can't drop that in the middle of a comedy show and expect
people not to laugh at it. Fucking stupid. I always get annoyed it.
But I died. It was the hardest. I laughed all night.
That's because I thought it was. She was just so committed to the bit.
It is really funny. It's like Will Ferrell and School right when he
just does the ribbon dancing. Ribbon dancing't hilarious? Was that his church?
The improv show was oh Man this spreeks of Austin sounds comedy. I always
get annoyed at Austin I don't even know a couple, but Austin improv shows
in particular, because I don't know, like they're always so like satisfied with
themselves and I'm like, you shouldn't be. No, it's literally like some
of the worst people in the class wreck we really killed that and feeling No,
I fucking hated every second of the guys shouldn't shouldn't name names. Jared
Boost and Jared We're great to work with. I forgot they were in that
Boosh though dropped a hard. We were in a sketch and he was playing
a racist grandfather, so we started yelling about Japs on stage. It's like
that could jap like like after it, like someone was like, you cannot
do that again, and we're like, he's playing a character. It's totally
fine. Fucking bitch shit. By the way, that's annoying to you because
I would hear stories about ucb in La and stuff like that. Listen,
you gotta play it safe, Italians, Polish, Irish, that's all you
gotta go after. Yeah, And I honestly, you know, even Greek
people will call you a racist. I think Greek's the line Greek term.
I don't even know what the Greek slurs? Are you fucking democracy inventor?
Yeah, you're damn I don't know. You just call him Harry or something.
It's greasy, it's it's oily. They're oily. You go fuck a
block of feta, you piece of shit. That's actually pretty great fet ahead,
Shove this into your euro Yeah. Uh. Anyway, so you know
where the students are. They started in vaudeville, became big film and kind
of TV stars those later, and are one of the most famous comedy groups
in American history. If you don't know, uh, there was a terrible
movie about them in like twenty twelve or something like that. And like any
band or TV show, people say the Stooges were never the same after they
lost an original member, in this case, their most popular member there Curly.
I don't know if you recall have you ever heard of Shemp? No?
Shemp? No, what's up? Your heard Shemp? Shemp was a
guy who replaced Curly. It's actually his brother, Oh oh god, very
Belushi. Yeah, very Belump. Also Mary, Curly's wife replace them in
all aspects of life. Curly had too many wives for that to be possible.
Kind of multiple families, well kind of, we'll get not simultaneously.
I will say I had to watch a lot of according to Jim, I
watched. I don't. I didn't have to. I watched a lot of
according to Jim as a kid. Yeah, that was your choice. Yeah,
watched with my parents. Yeah, and it was always just so funny.
It's like, really, he's married to Courtney Thorne Smith. Really couldn't
tell you who it was, really just some hot chick. Yeah. It
basically Sherylhids like Courtney Thorne Smith, same thing. No, but Larry David
plays himself. Yeah, that's true. Jim belie she got Seinfeld money.
Yeah, Jim belush. She's like a contractor, right, he's just like
in a middle class schlub married to court Thorne Smith. To be fair,
there's a lot of people that are contractors that do fairly well, that are
living that exact life or just go to I was just in Tuscaloosa, every
sec bro was married to somebody that's an eight or above. Yeah, because
that's because the market's all fucked up there. You know what, I mean
it's all dad body, Dallas looking motherfuckers' dad body. It's not even dad
about it's bodies that are just like a sack of potatoes that were left in
a bathtub. Nothing of golf polo can't fix. Yeah, dad body,
Daddy money. That drive fit does not it's not drive it it's pika.
It's a it's a structured shirt that they're wearing. Yeah, they're gonna they
keep it on during sex. Yeah, so that's what that's their secret that
you don't realize. The backwards had as well. Yes, NI wars hats
dope, dude, boat choose too for traction for traction on the boat on
the boat. According Cling Coward, you would not be a franchise quarterback because
I have a backwards hat and you're wearing a backwards cap right now. What
can I say, Jake, though all the makings of a great NFL QB.
I've always said I would have been a great QB if we didn't run
a triple option in high school? Did you really? Yeah, that's funny.
Yeah, I played offensive and went to the academies. Why don't you
serve? I know, because they also run a triple lot. Well,
the idea I just want. Yeah, it's just fucking but they would run
the triple option. Mostly for sure, they would run the quadruple option.
They'd had another wrinkle we can't even conceive. Yeah. Uh so, yeah,
Chemp replaced Curly at some point, and he was sort of a dud.
He actually was an original member, but before they got famous, he
left to his own ship. Curly came in, but anyway, Shemp replaced
him. I don't know if you know this, but having a shemp,
or being a shemp that was the original jumping the shark, that was jumping
the shark before jumping the shark. I've actually heard that term before. Yeah,
yeah, it's a real shamp. It's funny you keep saying. I
don't know if you know this though, because almost exclusively I will not for
this episode, we schemped up. Yeah. So like, for example,
if I left this show, anyone you replaced me with would be the shemp.
M it might be a higher quality product. Actually, what have we
got someone you know? I might actually grow. I was reading the comments
on the Roswell Patreon where we recorded in Phoenix, and people loved it.
Me, you and Georgia. Yeah, because we were all too fucking we
were handed. We were so fucked up actually kind of funny. I just
kind of gave up on the topic. Movie. We gave up like thirty
minutes into it and just started riffing. The one time you guys drink on
the show, I'm not there. It was blast. It was a super
Bowl week and this management week. Yeah, it was. I remember.
I know, I know why, I know what was going on. I'm
sorry you don't show up the trips. Georgia got me high as ship before
that too. He's like, you must smoke. It was like, yeah,
yeah I do. I'm on vacation. You're lucky, you're alive.
Dude. No, I say that because he killed Aaron Carter. He got
Aaron Carter high Georgia did. Yeah, they're not related, but emphasize enough
that there's like thirty crickets flying fucking studio right now. So many, God
damn insane. It's like we're outside. It's really ridiculous. Side would be
better. Actually, there's more room for them to play around. God doesn't
want us to speak about Curly no or he does. Every time we get
off topic, Rob gets hit with a cricket. Stay on topic. The
people need to know God supports the writer as an actress, strike clearly.
But yeah, being a shemp was kind of jumping the shark before jumping the
shark was a thing. So for example, when to go with the jumping
the shark person. When Chachi kind of replaced the Fonds, you know,
he was a real shimp. Scrappy doo would be a shimp, scrappy do
absolute shimp. Basically everyone who ran the office after Michael Scott a fucking shimp.
Yeah, definitely a shop So that is a shamp. Yeah, I'm
sure you've heard heard it at least once in your life. But what happened
to Curley, who was arguably the most beloved member of the group, what
happened to him? How do you die? Well? The Stooges worked a
lot, okay, like around town, like on film. Between nineteen thirty
four and nineteen fifty seven, when they from when they signed with to when
they ended with Columbia Pictures, they made one hundred and ninety short films.
Yeah, they probably had a bad deal, right Cannon. They probably signed
like a massive extensive contract, like an imperpetuity contract that's like your ours forever.
Yeah, as one of our what's one of our top three cash phrases
on the show, shit, don't change, no tales all this time.
I'll get to that. Okay, we'll get to that. We'll get to
that. We'll get to that. Oh, we'll get to that. None
of our catchphrase that is kind of orases because we guess a lot of the
stuff. It's like, oh, so what's gonna happen and we're like,
yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. We will get
to that. I wish we start doing that, but never get to thinks,
well, it would be funny. I there's a lot of listeners it's
a better bit. There's a lot of listeners who leave reviews that are basically
like they never get to it. They never get to it. Fuck you
gloss over it. That's been our show. It would be better if we
don't get to it. It's a free flowing conversation, that's right. So,
even though they were with Columbia Pictures from thirty four to fifty seven,
Curly would not appear in any Stooges films After nineteen forty seven. The Stooges
were insanely popular, so much so that Columbia head Harry Cohne uh used them
as leverage against theaters in order to bully them into showing some of other Columbias
some of other of Columbias movies. Oh so we'll pull the Stogies stuff if
you don't show our other movies. Yes, damn uh Now Cone would do
that to get more of Columbia's pictures in the theaters. The Stugis never knew
that because he made sure to never let them know the numbers that they were
doing. Keep him in the dark. Yeah, make them hungry. He
somehow kept it from them that they were the most popular comedy actors. How
they know? How did people not just come up to them be like you
guys are fucking credible. They didn't get like Curly he's getting like five blow
jobs a day. And then Harry Cohnes like, I'm sorry, boys,
and numbers are down again. You really popular with Horse sorry, and they
don't have money for movies. I actually do the opposite with you guys.
I don't have the heart to tell you that we have about fifteen listeners total.
You're just funding us. I believe it. I believe it. I
can't I can't stress enough that we are being kamikaze by crickets left and right.
Things don't want to live. Well, it finally reigned in Texas.
Oh it's really bad. Yeah, well, they all came in. It's
kind of like I imagine, it's kind of like what they did with Tim
Tebow at UF where it's like, all right, Tim, you're gonna have
your own little rim in your own little major and you're never gonna come out.
Yeah, except for practice. That is essentially so. In fact,
not only did Kohn do that and withheld how popular they really were, how
much money they really made for the studio, how valuable they were to the
studio. The Stooges also were on a year to year contract. Oh and
it had to be renewed at the end of every year. And at the
end of every year, Cone would tell them the numbers were down. Boys,
they the numbers are down. You're not John like he used to and
give them less money. Uh not, well kind of if you adjust for
inflation. Every single year, Cone would wait until the last second to renew
their contracts, and Khne's tactic work every single year for twenty three years,
not once from nineteen already four to nineteen fifty seven, which, by the
way, I know that's twenty three years. So that's like two thousand to
twenty twenty three. And you think, like, but think how much the
world and the economy and everything changed between those two years, oh a thousand
percent. You have the Marshall Plan take place in that period, World War
Two, the depression, you have the Golden Age of capitalism happen. Yeah,
yeah, all this stuff over those twenty three years. Not once did
they ask for a raise because they believed they were barely worth. He negged
them, yes, into a great deal, and they never got one.
They lost out on millions and millions of dollars at the time. He's such
a stand up guy. That's what he's doing for us, and that he
really believes in us. That's what's screwing the studios. Now. All these
apps have to put out their numbers to get more investment, Like wait a
minute, how much are you streaming? Wait a minute, what are you
paying us? Right, that's why that's happening. Like, yeah, I
was gonna say, yeah, if that sounds for this sounds familiar to you,
You don't, they don't. I'd be surprised if any of them break
even streamers. Yeah, no, but that's mostly because but that's like any
other people. Actually, this is a show biz thing. This is a
tech things. It's a huge tech It's the same way, the same shit.
Uber did, the same shit, all the food out, it's all
had their first profitable year. It's all based off potential. Uber's in the
black for this first time. I know. They were. All of our
rides for a decade were subsidized by investor money. Yeah, now it's getting
expensive. Now it's super expensive because now we're paying what it actually costs.
Yeah, we've been getting a discount for a decade. They got its hooked
on the product. I remember when I first took a lift, it was
free. Yeah. When they first showed up here, it was like,
na, man, just hit it. Just get in, baby, get
in on the ACCID. What's the boyfriends about it? What's the what's the
deal? Guys? Yeah? Smart Cone By the way, Harry Cone.
I did a little bit more reading on them, but I didn't do a
ton, not because I didn't want to talk more about them and stuff.
But are you a cone head? One of you got he? One of
you? Two? I don't care which one needs to do an episode on
him. Harry Cone. Let me put it this way, he makes Harvey
Wine scene look like a feminist interesting. He is the casting couch goat.
Okay, uh yeah, one of us will take that. Harry Cone.
That's what they call me in prison. He said, a conical Harry conic,
Harry conical, fucking penis. Yes, it's very pointy. I didn't
you didn't do anything with it to anyone. But it's just like you're in
the showers, like hey, Harry Cone. It's like, oh my god,
yeah, this literal Cone again. Cone heads. Cone is once said
to have remarked that running a studio was quote better than being a pimp.
Holy shit. If you want to know his thoughts on everything, There was
no saying the quiet part loud back then. So yeah, you just said
what you wanted. You just said anything, anything you wanted. Most of
Hollywood starlets back then were tragic stories, and Harry Cohne had a part,
and they were mostly tragic. I mean, I'm not nagging anyone's aptitude,
but there was a way to get casted very quickly in Hollywood. Oh and
Harry Cohne partooking it for decades. Yeah, I'm telling you one of you
two needs to do an episode on him. He is like again, Harvey
Weinstein ain't got nothing. The Gaga Bradley Cooper movie Stars Born, the Original
I believe covers it in great detail. Maybe not Harry Cohne, but like
probably could be. Midwestern girl goes to make it in the on the big
screen and constantly just like every producer is just a sleeze back. Yeah,
just like you know what gets you in this movie Daddy's lap, which,
like I mean, I guess you know that's what That's how he did business
at the time. Look, I would suck cock to have a show on
TV right now. You gotta be more specific, Yeah, like an HBO
show. Sure, fucking TLC TLC. I don't know, reality softcore history,
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Uh? I just said it would probably be a streaming service, yeah,
hbo hbo hbo or I don't know, like Comedy Central, because we've always
we've always pitched as like Insomniac meets board Dan. Right, yeah, so
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I mean, you'll take it, but I won't take it. Fucking no.
Maybe like kiss All French kiss the producer for that. Okay, that's
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Uh, let's take a way too long answer. I guess I think
I think I know the answer is not what you just said. Answer.
You said you you thought through the moral and ethical dilemma context of your answer
and got to it. No, I think it'd be me. I think
I can I think of the option we'reund the table from how you just answered
it. I don't know how you would. I don't know how you would
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cool to just go bananas on some producers Wiener, so dumb, so stupid,
the woman that famously doesn't listen to our podcasts. Yes, yeah,
yes, as another run, you've said so many traps for really have So
that was not great for the Stooges that they lost out on millions of dollars
again at the time, millions of dollars not adjusted for inflation. Uh,
but also thanks to the popularity of their particular type of humor, slapstick.
Yes, their films had what we're known literally as violence quotas, so they
had to have a certain amount of people getting hurt, certain amount of pies
to the face, certain amount of mounts to the head outs were used quite
often. Yeah, and that's the problem. They they always had one up
their previous gags kind of like Jackass. Yes, yeah uh and it was
just looney Tunes and humans, yeah, and practical effects. The Stooges uh
suffered quite a few injuries throughout their run, and they increased over time.
Injuries like broken ribs, broken noses, teeth, knocked out, concussions.
We should recut an episode of Three Stooges to the Jackass theme. There,
don't know, it's Curly. I mean, they were one of the Stooges.
They were trying to fake and pull their punches, but like obviously you
do that many fucking films. I imagine they're drinking the whole time too.
No no, no, no, no, no no. They were totally
sober. They were super professional. That's wild, okay, straight up.
Yeah done. Man. Mo would not allow it. That's pretty cool because
probably you'd get way more hurt. Oh yeah yeah, so yeah, that
was all according to Larry Fine, like all these all of these in juries
were common during filming The Three Stooges. And again for this hugely successful group,
Curly was the most popular member and he was one of the most physically
abused on screen, as was his hair. He was just he looked the
funniest. That had a lot to do with it. Yeah, and actually,
we're gonna get to what he thought of his hair. He thought he
was a fucking stud. We'll get to that. Curly was the most popular
member, but stardom was not really great for him. Well no again,
like I said, A referenced Belushi and Farley, kind of the same deal
here. Curly, for his character, had a bald and mostly shaved head.
It was one of his calling cards, but having to shave his head
actually made him feel super ugly and unattractive to women, and that deeply affected
his self esteem. This, along with their frantic work schedule, led him
to eat and drink to excess to kind of just drown his sorrows and as
much dope a mean as he could just bury the self talk. Oh Curly
is not who I thought you're thinking of, the one with curly hair.
That's Larry. Yeah, it's a bit yeah, got it. Curly means
something different, gotcha, Curly's kind of balding. Curly. She had to
shave his head. He shaves his head. He was not balding at all.
He had a good thick head of hair, but he's kind of the
fatter one. Yes, he's the fat one. I was picturing the dude
with the curly hair. No, so Mo is the bowl cut who's like
the sort of leader, the least idiot. Larry is I don't know,
just the weird one. And then Curly is like the They're all stupid,
but Curly's the stupidest. Gotcha, Okay. I would imagine people at home
who are not familiar with the three stooges like myself, would also think Curly
was the one the one was like, yeah, blah blah blah whatever,
Yeah, Curly is He's the Chris Farley the group, is the blue Shi
the group. He's the biggest. They all do physical comedy. He does
the mool comedy and stuff like that, so you're not all kind of chunky
he but Curley sort of the big one. He and so this led him
to he was actually like a really introverted, kind of quiet guy. But
he was so stressed and felt the need to entertain people and be popular because
he's so famous, that he drank to kind of bring his personality out and
stuff like that let's drag dude, Like, I can't imagine that being the
personality type fort stardom at all, an introvert, Like, I'm trying to
think of other people that would fit that bill. A lot of actors,
a lot of actors are like weirdos. Yeah, for the weirdos. I
mean, fame has to ruin you too on a certain level. Especially I
feel like the younger you get it, oh for sure, Like think about
it, like you who's totally chill, like Brian Cranston, Yeah, who
didn't get fair like he was on Malcolm in the Middle when he was in
his like probably late dirties, early forties. You know, it's kind of
chill. McAuley culkin, No, he was insane for a while. Yeah,
he's well adjusted now. He from decades of therapy. Decades dude,
Like you know who else kind of had the same thing as McCauley culkin Corey
Hart, You know what happened to him? He dead? He's dead?
Yeah? Or Feldman? Who man not a person? I don't know.
Frankie Moran has is killing it right now. He's a racing doesn't remember filming
Malcolm in the Middle. To be fair, that's from racing. That is
from racing. Yeah, that's the CT. Yeah, that's the car crashing.
But that's wild can match that. He's on that show for what like
seven years a decade. Yeah, and he doesn't remember it because he's tiny.
One of the most underrated television shows. If he gets in a car
crash, like his whole body gets CT. Yeah, he's a small dude.
A lot of race cards actors are too. Yeah, a lot of
small actors are very tweet people. Despite his low self esteem, though specifically
about his looks, like he thought he was just like hideous to women because
of the haircut in particular. Uh, curly was popular with women actually really
uh yeah, particularly gold diggers looking to steal his money. Of course,
of course, I was just yeah because they probably think he's huge. Yeah,
well he is. He is as far as like fame and popularity.
He's rolling in it. But he's getting everyone making good money. Yeah,
Like, don't get me don't get me wrong, they're making good money.
They're just not making anywhere near their fair share. Right, So they were
just you know, gold diggers trying to steal his money, and boy did
they succeed at that. I mean every single time except once. Curly was
married four times. Uh Moe's son in law Norman Mauer. Mauer whenever noted
as a quote from Norman. I think in like a not a biography,
I guess, but like in a yeah, maybe in a biophy, I
don't know. Norman said of Curly he was a pushover for women. If
a pretty girl went up to him and gave him a spiel, Curly would
marry her. Then she would take all of his money and run off.
It was the same. This is even worse. Honestly, it was the
same. When a real estate agent would come up and say, I have
a house for you, Curly would sell his current home and just buy another
one. Very trust in them. Yeah that's so they weren't doing that bad.
He was. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like he
was making They were making a lot of money. It's just like, I
don't know, man, imagine if like if everyone in the Avengers made two
million dollars. Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, you're not feeling
bad for them insomuch as like, well, you're all fucking millionaires, but
it's like you could be making fifty They should be making a lot more.
Yeah, they're not They're not getting their fair share, and the Studgies were
one of the biggest draws at the time. So Curly's second marriage, which
produced a daughter, ended in a horribly bitter divorce in nineteen forty. The
stress from it caused him to gain a ton of weight and develop hypertension,
which, by the way, he had already been like aggressively drinking and eating
and stuff for six years at this point dealing with fame. The constant stress
of work also had him out all night getting fucked up. Essentially, you
know, you're shooting twelve hour days. He's like improvising a lot, trying
to be funny. His brain is his brain is going on stop, his
body is going on stop. And then like you can't just all right,
time for bed after that, you need something to spurn the candle in both
ends. Yeah, it's unfortunate, but I mean, like anyone that works
really hard hours knows that. Like I don't. I don't do that often,
but when I've had to put in like long weeks or shit like that,
Like if you put in like a twelve thirteen hour day or you're up
until like one in the morning, working and then you're like, all right,
well I should go to bed now. It's like you're not not gonna
happen. Yeah, you need to like you need something to knock you out.
Yeah, and his choice will be taken a mallet, like a fit
of whiskey or something that's rough. Yeah, every night. So all of
the stressed ship, there's like five of them. It's fucking they all came
out of the ceiling. I think they're just I think there's like a colony
up there. It's like ants, but it's cricket. Crickets have like a
beehive they might. Now at this place, it's called your insulation. Yeah.
Yeah, anyway, so yeah, square up, Doug. Everything was
terrible. I mean the act was popular, but they weren't getting paid enough,
and he was stressed all the time. In fact, the only thing
that ever really brought him joy. I mean maybe his daughter did, didn't
really say in my research, but again the softcore history, the only thing
up to this point ever really brought him father was your child children. Don't
know, do your children bringing in joy? Yes, great joy, great
joy, great joy, much joy, more than we'll ever know. It's
non fathers, certainly gotcha. Well, non father, So I'm just gonna
assume then with your father expertise, it's a little joy. Yet there's one
other thing that brought him joy. This is probably his main source of healthy
joy, semi healthy joy. Befriending stray dogs. Oh that's sweet. He
had a kind heart. He did that all he was. This is like
this guy was like incredibly sweet. This is becoming more tragic as Yeah,
he just sounds like a moron. He is really dumb. He's really dumb,
way too trusting and always stressed out. Yeah, typically fun episode,
they don't go hand in hand. He's a Usually if you're a moronic or
you know, dumb and successful, it doesn't stress you out. Usually they're
the most even killed people we know. But he's an introvert. But people
don't want to see the clown cry dance clown. Just make the hahas happen.
Yeah. So he would pick up homeless dogs, take them with him
from town to town when they were touring and until he found a home for
them somewhere. When not performing, he usually had a few dogs waiting for
him at home as well, just like dogs he adopted. I thought they're
gonna be on set that they wouldn't do. Mo actually ran a pretty tight
set. MO wouldn't let him drink on set. He couldn't drink until after
the after work was done. I assume he showed up violently hungover. Yeah,
but that's when you're at your best. Was not a lot kind of
you're just stripped down. A decade into their relentless and endlessly stressful Columbia run
by nineteen forty four, Curly was basically a shell of his former self.
He had likely already suffered a stroke at least one, but no one really
knew for sure. That was a great bit you did, Curly, where
you went all limp and started talking with the weird moniker. Did you just
did the woo woo woo without that one side of your out so wild?
That crazy dude. How do you think of that? Yeah, don't keep
doing it. That's just the one. After filming Rocking in the Rockies.
Uh, Curly was so like visibly unwell that MO made Curly finally just you
know, go to a doctor. Yeah. Curly was diagnosed with obesity,
hypertension, and a retinal hemorrhage. Man, I would love God, I
love that obesity is a diagnosis. It's like, how do you run the
test on that? All right? Yeah you got that, bro, Yeah
right, yeah, you got it. You just take the height and weight.
Yeah yeah, I mean it's it. Yeah. I don't even think
you need to. I think a lot more rare back. I think you
could do an eye test for a lot of folks, for a lot for
quite a few. Yeah, but I only trust the eye test. He
was able to become data in your analytics out of here eye test only grit.
I just need to see it. Yeah, he was able to become
obese by the way. I mean, you know, you're genetically predisposed to
a certain extent, and I think he was. But I mean think about
the time frame he became obese, the height of the Great Depression to the
height of World War Two, where you've got like food rationing and everything like
that. Yeah, he had money, though, he did. He did
have money. Easy to be a fat rich guy. Mo begged, begged
Columbia President Harry Cone to give his brother some time off to recover, but
Cone refused, So they got back to filming. Get back on that sound
stage, idiot, the show goes on. Yeah, laugh, slave dance
Monkey. The Stooges did have five months off between August nineteen forty five and
January nineteen forty six. They used that time to book a two month live
performance commitment in New York City, working shows seven days a week. Always
be content and always seven days week is insane too. During their time on
the East Coast, Curly met his third wife, Mary and Bucks Bomb,
who he married on October seventeenth, nineteen forty five, after a two week
relationship. Sometimes when you know, you know and everyone that needs a companion,
this was that mos encouragement because he was like, maybe a woman will
fix you, though the last two have destroyed you. Yeah. Yeah,
Actually the first one, his first wife was pre fame and they just got
divorced. Then the second wife they left on good terms. Maybe the first
one, I doubt divorce was good terms. Ever, in this time period
there's divorces like that was pretty intense. Really, it's it's almost like murdering
your wife now essentially, Yeah, like you don't do it. Yeah,
you're you're abandoning this woman. Yeah uh during yeah, so he married her
after two weeks. By nineteen forty six, Curly's voice was completely shot and
he could barely remember his lines because his brain was so fried from drinking and
strokes. That'll do it. But the work went on, but his marriage
did not, and the divorce proceedings, uh with how long was the third
marriage? Like? Nine months? Is that less than a year? The
curly starting to sound like Lee Corso right now they just wheel him out.
It's like do the thing, put the mascot head. That is essentially how
it h That's tragic right now, it's hard to watch it. That's like
Herb Streets, a total pro. I'm glad they sit him next to him
for sure. It's like put him off the pasture. He gets the team
wrong every time he talks. It's nuts. It's not it's not great.
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Marion Slop likely outright lied during the divorce proceedings to get as much money
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was as much money and sympathy as possible, she claimed, and I quote
he used filthy, vile language. He kept two vicious dogs. He shouted
at waiters and cafes, struck and kicked me, and put out cigars in
the sink. The last one does and fit. The last one is so
like what oh yeah, that was another thing, by the way, he
smoked cigars like he was fucking Ulysses in his grand constant cigar smoker. That's
smoking a pack of cigars. It's gonna clock the drains. Yeah, he's
putting it out in the sink. Can't do that. Yeah, I mean,
I guess it's unsightly, but like all the other things are well.
Everyone who knew him completely disputed that. Yeah, you kind of YadA YadA
YadA the strike and hit me, yeah, because it was likely all bullshit,
like he was like a big sweetheart. Everyone was like, this is
and this woman again notorious liar. Yeah, basically he was getting taken for
everything. He was worth and again like like the guy said Norman whatever in
the whatever biography. Uh he was like I mean he was any. As
soon as a pretty girl came up to him, he would just do whatever
she said. I think there was a lot of people back in the forties
like our grandparents U their parents before then. I don't think they dated much.
No, I think it was hey a second, Yeah, what about
it? You're stuck. I mean, how do you even meet people?
How do you it's people in your town. It's just the people in your
town. It's usually always how it's been. I guess that's true to an
extent. You're not meeting people elsewhere. I mean, it's one thing if
you're in you know, he grew up in I think New York, so
that's fine, but LA for most people, especially if you're outside of a
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it's not a laughing matter. None of this episodes labatter. It's really not.
None of our episodes really are ever the subject matter never supposed to be
funny. Yeah, it's never a good We don't never really have like a
happy story on the show. Yeah, Stubby Timothy Dexter, that was fun
He locked his wife in an attic, said she was a ghost. That
was kind of funny. Though it was fun it's kind of funny for us
objective us objectively funny through the lens of the present. There's a lot of
other things that happened in Lafe before that. All right, I will say
Stubby is of just a feel good story. All right, it doesn't feel
good. That's tell our most feel good story. Now, let's get to
the least feel good part of this episode. How do he die? How'd
he died his fourth wife? There are fates worse than death to live on
in eternity like in carbonates. We're getting we're getting to the parts inspired me
to write this episode. Okay to the part where I was like to go
back to the whole working conditions thing. Did they upload him to the cloud
and he has to make like dumb slaps Jimmy Stewart ghosts for PEPSI from from
spare Bedroom by it now on I doude he's an Ai ghost? No,
not an AI ghost? Where's my family? Why? On May sixth,
nineteen forty six, while filming Halfwits Holiday, Curly suffered a massive stroke on
set while sitting in the chair and the director chair Jules White's chairs. He
was the director. He just took a seat in the chair. Sit down.
Uh. They were shooting the last scene of the day, last scene
at the time. Don't let it stop him and Curly keep it rolling.
Curly had just scrabbed to see what they were about to shoot the last scene.
Keep it rolling, boys. They put him on strings. They were
he's a ventroke withal Now Curly had this massive debilitating stroke and no one noticed
that meets he was in such shit condition, Like if you have a massive
stroke and no one catches on either everyone's just so well, no one noticed
for a little bit, No Curly over there, actual at odd. Finally,
the assistant director called for Curly to take the stage to shoot the final
scene with the other two stooges, and he didn't answer, didn't answer,
didn't answer. Uh fucking diva. Mo went looking for his brother, found
him sitting in the chair. His head was dropped into his chest and his
mouth was distorted. He was looking very strokey, essentially cartoonishly stroke. Yeah,
just like Curly could not speak or move. He just sat there in
horrifying pain as tears streamed down his face, frozen in the director's chair.
I don't get this one, Curly, this bit isn't funny. Uh So
everyone immediately rushed like Curly had a stroke and he's crying, he's frozen in
pain, and everyone immediately rushed to rework the scene so that they could do
it without Curly, And yeah, I mean he's already fucked up, Like
what's another ten minutes, right? And also they called an ambulance attention,
you know what I mean. So they were like, okay, okay,
you call an ambulance, will rewrite the scene to shoot it without Curly because
we obviously can't stop production, right, it's just not it's grind culture.
Cone won't let us, Harry Cohne won't let us grind grind grind, which
respect I guess I mean, like you said, Mo runs a tight ship.
Yeah, so I guess he got time for your stroke, Curly.
It's no time for a stroke boy. After filming was over, Mo,
by the way, I don't I don't know if I mentioned this, but
Mo and Curly are like literal brothers. Yeah you didn't. I I was
kind of curious because, like, so we had another brother too that came
into play later. Larry was not one of the Howard brothers, okay,
but Mo and Curly and Shamparral were all literal brothers. They could have actually
just had all three beat brothers in the three Shuoges. I believe they were,
but I don't remember. No, But I'm saying, like, if
Sheep is also their brother, why did they bring in this Larry fellow.
He's just that good. He just part of the troupe, baby like that
had to clearly that calls tension within the family. Now, No, Shemp
wanted to go do his own ship for a while. I bet he didn't
want to No, he did. He was not fired. I bet there
was an issue. He left before they got big family gatherings Christmas, Thanksgiving,
maybe after they got big. Yeah, he was probably really salty.
I think Shemp was just the damon wayans Uh. Yeah, you know,
doing his own thing. I don't get it. So anyway, they kept
filming, finished the scene, and then Mo went to whatever hospital his like
half dead brother had been taken to, but of course finished filming first,
right Harry Cohin wouldnt let him do anything else. Real professional, you only
have so much studios on uh. And then two months after that stroke,
his divorce was finalized. Perfect Curley was never able to work again. He
made like one or two cameos, but that was it. Did not really
ever work again. He made cameo he came back to set and they were
like, oh, we should just have you in a golf Yeah, we
did recover. He only talked in that who well. At the end of
his life he was unable to communicate. After several more strokes. Oh god,
he had more. He had the lenin. He had almost as many
strokes as films. He had more strokes than wives. No, definitely had
more strokes than wives. He had hundreds of strokes. I mean he had
little mini strokes. You do. You aren't more prone to them once you
start having them, yea, after the first you survived more than like three.
I don't know this one. In the fucking forties he did, however,
I'll make them like they used to. They don't. Despite not being
able to work full time. He did, however, get married again.
Of course, someone married him, is what I'm saying. It's time to
the only woman that ever loved him because he's in a vegetative state. Valerie
Newman in nineteen forty seven and high school sweetheart. I don't just some woman
and they've actually fell in love and they had a kid. Whoa, they
milked the vegetable They had a daughter in nineteen forty eight. Hmm, that's
cool. Little silver line. There was a there's a hotline question about like,
what famous person would you like from history? Would you like to see
the sex stape of this one? Morbid curiosity? Yes, okay, it's
up there. Uh well he did. I mean, look it's not he
wasn't just a I mean, he was in a wheelchair for a while,
but he did recover a little bit. Uh, it wasn't imagine his first
wife loved him. He wasn't big yet. He wasn't big yet, but
they didn't get divorced. And look, it should be noted like during his
retirement and all the post stroke stuff. For a while, there was a
little bit of time with Valerie where he lived, and a nice little life
with his daughter, and they had a pool in the in their nice house
and stuff like that. But unfortunately he kept smoking cigars. The strokes kept
coming. You know, it sounds I don't know how how do he just
keep doing all the things? Yeah, eventually he became like two. I
just like he couldn't even keep him in a nursing home anymore because he was
so gone. But like, I don't know, was combative with the nurses
and stuff like that. Finally, in nineteen fifty two, he died at
the age of forty eight. His brain probably melted off his ears. Dude,
Like, what do you mean his brain was goop? Car accident?
No, for real, he was driving, he was how the fun was
I'm kidding? He just fucking completely de Yeah, I once you hit the
triple digis, Yeah, it's rough. I I kind of want to make
a really sad movie about this, right, Like you know, I'm already
thinking of what the track is, like the trailer track, I'm thinking,
like, my body is a cage. I was thinking of something horrific the
entire time when you kind of yeah, but I get why he's saying it's
like there's a fete worse than death. It's because your body literally is in
this instance, you're for the fucking prison. For the last while of his
life, he could not communicate beyond squa easing mos handy. At one point
he was he started crying because he couldn't say anything or communicating that that was
this was after that, he still boned. He mean, he got to
the point where he couldn't speak, couldn't do anything. And I mean so
in nineteen fifty two he was forty eight, right, So in nineteen thirty
two, what he was twenty eight, So, I mean this started his
strokes started like in his mid thirties, late twenties something that no mid thirties,
mid thirties, that's so rough, man, Like, I just that's
so brutal and at all. A huge part of it was essentially fame played
a big part, but essentially a very big part of it was there just
like absolutely brutal work schedule. Yeah, I mean that's definitely part of it
for sure. I think, yeah, when you're doing seven shows, fuck
you come on, dude, fucking it's fine shore we go, oh god,
damn, we're fighting crickets like we're little little fists at dude. They
keep coming. Yeah, that one like covered right in front of us,
Like try me, they're mocking us. Damn insane. Anyway, seven days
in a row, tons of shows. You're working twelve hour days like,
and when they're not filming, they're doing live shows. I don't know how
people do this kind of work just in general, because like I don't know,
you talk to people that have it works off job wise, right like
where they're like doing a hard labor or twelve thirteen hours a day and they
just never quit and you're like, dude, I think i'd just be okay
being hungry for a little bit. Like I couldn't do that. I mean,
I can't speak for people who do like construction and stuff like that,
but at least there's something like, I don't know, you're doing physical labor,
so maybe to an extent, you're like healthier, Well you're healthier,
and also like you're not get the vitamin D, have a little energy.
Yeah, you're you can go to the end. You can go home at
the end of the day. May be like you leave, whereas he was
like a doing physical work, you're getting smashed in the fucking face. And
there's a rule booker like instructions, but also just like the mental stress of
always having to think of like new jokes and then and then yeah, when
you're out and about, you have to be on. No construction worker has
to be on when they leave. They can say, hey, hey Jim,
do the jackhammer thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not that being
a comedians harder than being fucking physical laborer. But in terms of this person's
particular mental stress, I think you see it a lot like Okay, I
guess I'll cat off. You know, it's crazy too mean, the one
way you say, hey, nice titties, I don't have the heart to
do it. Yeah, man, I'm not in it. I'm not on
the clock. I don't even know you. I'm not on the clock.
Yeah, I can't even imagine. Like I think that also does kind of
speak to like the way celebrities are treated here, especially maybe worldwide, I'm
not sure, but like people see people on a screen and they think they
have a personal relationship up with them because they've affected their lives and emotions in
a certain way. Right, So like it's got to be worse now with
like the ability to DM a celebrity and like the access that people get too
much. I also think daily content is deeply unhealthy. You should not be
creating. You can do an act the same act over and over again for
new audiences and stuff like stand ups, do from town to town and stuff
like that night like you should because at least you're perfecting something, right,
dude, it is not fucking healthy to do. Try to be I cannot
yeah funny or whatever every day. Yeah, we used to do that.
It's hard and stucked. It's you're hitting your well the bottom of it once
a week, like three times a day for every day for four years.
Not fun, it's not. It does not bring out the best people,
no, And it's then people are like, well, long form content's debt,
so we need quick bits long form content. It's funny too that that's
the case, because long form content shouldn't be dead. Because there's more talent
than ever, so you should just have more long form content than ever,
and all these people should just not have to be making Yeah no, it's
not to like avoid work whatever. But he's just like, yeah, the
best things I've read or long form right, Still, the best pieces of
art are long form. It's TikTok. Yeah, But I mean not to
say that there aren't memes that make a chef kiss. But whatever, what'd
you guys learn today? I'm sad. I learned that this poor man just
had his life ruined by fame and working conditions. I guess, had his
life made and ruined. I learned that Curly was the fat though he did
learn that Hitler is Harry Cone. Well, yeah, we haven't really learned
what he did, but just from what you alluded to, I would imagine
he's Hitler even what he did to them. Yeah, just in general,
bottom, that's just that's show bizz baby, that's the business. And you
don't think that's happening now all the time, constantly happening, especially with like
sponsorships, Stephen podcast and everything. There's I mean everywhere I've worked and even
this job included when I everyone gets stressed from stuff. Right, there's a
constant reminder for myself where it's like I'm not saving lives, like this isn't
going to ruin anything. Get fuck up or no one will remember you.
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don't because no one else will. Yeah. I was actually while researching
this today. I do this all the time, and it's it's really like
reassuring or whatever. I Harry Cohne's funeral the comedic comedian, I don't know,
comedic voice whatever, comedian Red Skellington. I think his name is said,
uh, well, like it's a fake name. It might have been
a stage name, Red skelling I certainly hope it is a stage name.
He was eulogizing Harry Cohne and uh, and like everyone from Hollywood was there,
and and Red Skellington, I guess was a huge comedian at the time
and for a long time too, had like a very popular radio show from
like the thirties to the early nineties. And I was just like, I
never heard of this guy. He was probably huge. There were probably people
who were like, that is my guy. That is my sense of humor,
that is everything the same way you might think of, you know,
the way I would think of like, uh, Trey Parker and Matt Stone
or like Tina Fey with dirty rock. People like probably saw him like that's
me, that's my voice that I identify with this person. And I was
like, I don't who the fuck this is. Charlie Chaplin got his whole
look swaggerjacked by a genocide, genocidal maniac. M But I see what you're
saying where it's like there's someone that was probably superfluent. There's plenty of influential
people for their time that don't they're not remembered, right, yeah, right,
And he was not as big as Curly and the Three Stooges, who
were still remembered fairly well to this day. But like, give it give
it another fifty years for the three students, one hundred years for three students.
It's incredibly difficult to have a lasting impact in anything you do. Yeah,
yeah, no one, I remember you suggest relax a little bit,
just take a pree your life. You ain't Napoleon. Yeah, have a
beer. And by the way, given Napoleon three thousand years, see him
gives a shit about him? Yeah, three thousand years on a geological given
a point two hundred years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But that's all
I got for today. Uh, Jake Goldman and David way to grow the
reviews, right? We did for Dan Yeah, for David Jester and Jake
Goldman. I am Rob Fox, and for all the crickets in the studio
as well. You just got saw served