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All right, we're back. So
I was gonna split these up into topics,

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which I kind of will, but
let's just do the quick, just

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put all these moral things together.
Russo's they came up from Hollywood Report today,

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so it's pretty much a done deal. I think we're gonna do.

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I don't think we are doing a
Common Com Predictions episode next week. I

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think the reason this is coming out
now is because I feel like you're gonna

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get some news like it's the timing
is suspicious, you know. Uh.

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But in Hollywood Reporter, so s
tre Scooper, they said that the Russ

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brothers are in talks for Avengers five
and six. No dug articles like it's

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gonna wrap up the song out.
Yeah, the writers are supposedly supposed to

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come back. That came in later
on Deadpool or dead Fuck. But Deadline

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did a different report earlier or later
saying some more information and Marcus mcpheeley they

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wrote all the movies that they did
with them, so there is either there

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coming back or there's like at least
one of them coming back. So you're

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getting some of those writers and right
now, Avengers five is currently gonna be

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a new story, new title,
and they're not if there's any worry about

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it before. Sounds like they are
not doing the King thing right now.

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And then we also got traders for
Captain America and Agatha Dylan. I'll leave

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with you, what are your thoughts
on this MCU stuff we got this week.

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Yeah, the Russo Brothers stuff,
it shouldn't be surprising, but it

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was surprising for me. You know, it sounded like they were ready to

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go do their own thing after the
MCU. But it's like, yeah,

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many many years have passed now since
they did that, and their careers kind

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of in between, there haven't really, I guess, blown up on their

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own. I mean, they're making
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mc was like clearly a good fit
for them. So I don't know.

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It's two things. It's like,
Okay, I like all the movies that

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they did with the MCU, so
I'm excited for this, but I also

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think I was excited for something kind
of new and different, just to get

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a little bit of different flavor,
a different vibe. But you know,

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when it comes down to it,
like these guys are the masters of taking

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all these different movies, different characters, different vibes, for all these different

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things and making them cohesive and work
together visually and and you know, dramatically

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and comedically all this stuff. So
it makes a lot of sense. And

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I think for MCU, where they've
been throwing a couple of wild cards mainly

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because they're taking so freaking long to
make these things. That things change,

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things happen, Movies come out,
some other movies don't come out, Things

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get canceled, change, people get
canceled. All this stuff happens that,

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like you know it, why not
just go back to something like old reliable.

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I just go back to what's worked
for them many times in the past

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financially and making movies that people are
in love with that are their favorite across

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all this this whole property. So
I think it makes a lot of sense.

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And I don't know, I just
want these movies to get like back

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on track at this point, and
honestly, these seem like the best picks

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to put things back on track.
So yeah, I guess that makes a

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lot of sense. And then based
two on just all we've heard of,

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MCU is slowing down in terms of
the amount of projects they are putting.

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Now, I think all of this
kind of just makes sense, so cool,

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I'm here for it works for me. And then yeah, for the

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trailers. Weirdly, both of these
trailers, Captain America and Agatha really did

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not feel like MCU things to me. Obviously, I'm seeing a couple of

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characters that I've you know, seen
in other projects of course, so that

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that part of it makes sense,
But they just didn't feel very EMPCU like,

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which is a good thing to some
extent, as I'm just saying there,

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it's nice to have different tones and
vibes for these things, but also

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it, I don't know, it
didn't really get me. It didn't get

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my MCU whistle blowing if that makes
I don't know where that if that analogy

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makes that any sense whatsoever. But
it didn't. Yeah, it didn't get

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me hyped for the next phase or
next things necessarily. I think Agatha looks

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like, I don't know, it's
you know, they were doing this jokey

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thing where they were changing the title
a whole bunch of times, and it

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seems like the gimmick of this show
is gonna be that each episode is like

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just a different horror trope, and
like that's what each episode is gonna be

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and then there's gonna be some through
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So I don't know, I guess
to me, it just seems like it's

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gonna be a bit too like surface
level, and I don't know. It

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could be fun, but I think
it'll be like overally, like one episode

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and then really kind of not care
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the end of the day it'll just
be a little too short and shallow for

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me to really love it. And
I'm like, oh yeah, two years

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later we'll be like, oh,
remember Agatha, Remember when that was a

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show that happened, and then that
character was in No Projects ever again.

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I think that's kind of the vibe
we're gonna get there, But I don't

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know. Some of it did look
a bit darker, you know, MCU

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darker, So it's like a little
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Aubrey Plaza is Aubrey Plaza, so
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this, which is cool, so
I'm into that. And then Cap,

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I don't know, I think you
know, they did this call it called

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this a teaser. It was still
like two minutes long, but it is

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still a teaser. I don't know. I guess that the like everything we've

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heard from this movie, other characters
that might be showing up, like those

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are the things that maybe more excite
me than what I actually saw here,

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and that's never a good thing.
Like even you know, we talked about

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for so long there what potential cameos
could be in Deadpool. We did the

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same thing in Multiverse Madness at the
end of the day, like there wasn't

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a ton of Multiverse and with Deadpool, like they're probably gonna keep it kind

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of constrained too, and that's like
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you gotta have a good movie at
its foundation, and then the cameos just

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kind of add fun scenes and like
fan service on the side of it.

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Right, So I don't know what
this movie is gonna be. I think

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Harrison Ford actually seems really really good
in this and really intriguing. And I

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mean, I love Sam, I
love the journey we've gone on with him.

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He's not my top ten character for
me or anything in the MCU,

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but I think he's set up in
a good spot for But I guess I

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just got to see a little bit
more because this didn't really move the need

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much for me, So I don't
know. I'm sure that will change when

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I get another couple of trailers in
there, or when we're closer to it

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and we're here more about actual like
maybe more solid rumors, like things getting

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confirmed. But for right now,
my hype level on these projects is pretty

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low overall, mister Patzer, Mister
Patzer, I'm pretty aligned with Dylan's your

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button, my butt it uh,
I'm pretty aligned with Dylan with my butt

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on the trailers, at least I
with the Agatha one. There was things

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in here that I liked, especially
that I'm going with Parks right now.

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Like Aubrey Plaza. Yeah, she's
just so fantastic, so I'm excited to

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see her in this and like the
dark moments of that chick's getting like possessed

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or something like, It's like,
I think it'll be a fun watch.

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I think this is a bad trailer
though, Like I didn't like the start

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of it. I I really just
didn't like the trailer overall. But like

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I feel like if I just saw
like screen captures or maybe or maybe maybe

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like a little little snippet of like
Aubrey Plaza dropping like a nice one liner

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I would have liked it more so. I think it was a maul.

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I don't know what I was trying
to say now malnourished. Yeah, they

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needed some electrolytes or something there.
It looked a little parched. And then

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with Captain America again like I'm I'm
definitely aligned with Dylan again. I liked

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Harrison Forden here. I was I
was curious how I was gonna feel about

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him in this role, but no, I think it looks good and it

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was a better trailer than the Agatha
one for me, but it didn't do

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too much to increase my hype level. It might rise closer to I'm definitely

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excited to see Sam on this journey
and I I love this big weight that

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he has, especially the line like
my Name where he's just like you might

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be Captain America, but you're not
Steve Rogers. Like, I'm excited to

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see how Sam kind of deals with
that weight that he's been feeling since Captain

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My gosh, what was it called
Winter Soldier? And yeah, hands in

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the air, like you just don't
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don't you feel like we dealt with
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it's I think it's just like a
never ending weight though that he's going to

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be feeling because I just don't have
need every time for them to be like,

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well, you know, I don't
need dead put a look over him

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and secorts like you know, but
they got to have that line in the

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next movie though, you know,
like they did in a TV show,

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but they got to be movie.
I think I would be totally acceptable if

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like, after this movie, we
can we can move away from that.

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It's just like how many people saw
the show, Miss Marvel, just like

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you're not Steve Rogers and Avengers when
they meet him, Well, you know,

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America, we're Steve. Isn't that
bench over there? Wings on?

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Yeah, listen my butt next to
Steve. What's up, Steve? Get

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that butt over here. I guess
you're right. It's just was It's just

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I was like, like, I
I hope it's touched upon, but I

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hope it's not the storyline of him
having to feel like he's Captain America again.

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You know you got John Walker.
You're not wrong with your with your

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thoughts there, Travis. I think
I think it's like really like the line

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delivery that sold me on it.
There and also like in the show,

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it was him donning the shield and
like actually becoming that character. And now

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it's like this is gonna be solidifying
that, like holy like this is Captain

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America. It's not Steve Rogers,
but like Steve Rodgers was never what this

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Captain America could potentially be. Right, So I'm I'm hoping that is a

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big driving force of the film.
And uh was the Russo's Yeah, it's

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it's funny. I feel like it's
something that just makes sense. You know,

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I dropped the meme. It's like
you can live with your own failure.

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Where did that bring you back to
me? For both of them,

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for both of them, and it's
just like yeah, no, I'm I'm

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totally okay with this. I didn't
really like anything that I've seen that they've

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done other than Avengers, and you
know, like like they definitely have to

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scramble the pieces to like get this
Avengers film with everything that was going on

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behind the scenes. So I like
the idea of just no, we're benching

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that character for now and we're we're
just gonna We're gonna bring in something that

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they know has worked in the past, and if it's not broken, don't

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fix it, and you know,
like Infinny War Endgame, amazing movies.

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But it also wasn't just the Russo's
right, like there is so many factors

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and clearly all those factors were able
to give us what we got and we

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well on that machine. Yeah,
yes, yeah, yeah, they're good

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at And then maybe that's where it
showed that maybe they need that machine to

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help us on their projects. You
know, they can't guide that machine,

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but they can't maybe build it.
I don't know, so like me reading

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this, and I'm sure like a
lot of general audience members even if they

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don't know, like a lot of
directors, it's just like, oh,

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same guys that did Infinity War Endgame, for like the director, Yeah,

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that's gonna be nice to see on
a poster, right, So yeah,

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I like to hear that. Now
it's like, Okay, we actually have

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a team. I guess it's a
rumor still, but you said it's done

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deal yeah unless something falls apart money
wise. But I think that's what fell

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up out before probably was they probably
are coming off Endgame being like hot shit,

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being like we want to do all
this and we should get this,

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and Marle's like eh, we can
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this, and maybe they also found
hey, we've had a couple of duds,

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or maybe it is not as easy
as we thought to find directors that

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are just like they're not find the
James Guns or the Russos or the who

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else would be out there, like
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but like I feel like they had
a good record of finding smaller tier directors

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and then boosting them up. They
try this go around and that's not happening,

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Like they're getting you know, like
whatever you think about Turtles doing.

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It's like they get Chloe Jao and
that's like oscaring director. But for the

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audience it's mixed, you know,
Sam Raimi even lost people go ahh,

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I don't like that style and them
to you it's too sam raimy. So

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it's like Russo's. I feel like
they're just good at making whatever the car

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it sounds bad, but whatever the
blueprint is of a Marvel movie of like

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the Phase one to three, it's
like these are the guys that do the

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blueprint the best, you know.
So I'll go because I'm already talking.

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Yeah, I I'm not shocked,
but I'm not. I did not have

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this on the Bengal card right now, just because we had heard so many

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times even the Russos say like,
oh yeah, we've talked about and it

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just doesn't look like it's happening.
I do think that's what it was where

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I think MC was probably pretty high
on themselves and Russells were pretty high in

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themselves, and they've both had a
couple of defeats because yeah, Netflix or

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sorry. They did that grave Man
movie Netflix that was meh. They did

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that Cherry movie Tom Holme that was
meh. And they had that Amazon show

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that was super expensive get canceled after
one season. So they've not been like

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doing a bunch of hits. So
I felt like maybe that's what they felt

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like, Oh we can go show
them and really they didn't. And same

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thing MC would be like, oh
we can do this, we can find

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our next Russos, and they didn't. We went through the Sung Chi director.

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In the Deadline report. They also
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offered the gig first, but he
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Wars movie. I really hope that
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I'm watching Game of Thrones, like, that's one of the rumors of why

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that season was rushed because they wanted
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and then that movie never happened.
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years, I hope for his sake
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but I was developing a Star Wars
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Kaffe Kennedy that week was like,
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Did put Wolverene, you know,
didn't it not happen? Because Game of

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Thrones fucking sucked and they're like,
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They always do that. The second
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and Thunder. The second they announced
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remember that came out. Then all
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the cry. Second, Yeah,
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the second they're not like fucking white, steaming hot, Like, eh,

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like, yeah, but look at
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that's a whole other podcasting jacolate,
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that's interesting. I'm gonna see how
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me, I think this is the
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right now. They had a year
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they had their worst and so you
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sucked and been critically panned, like, there are gonna be playing the same

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way ball Biker, whether you're like
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we're gonna be tacking more established characters, that is a backwards way of

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him saying, like, not as
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company, that's what they're gonna lean
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makes money. And on paper,
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I really hope this has a better
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is this was the same reaction many
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JJ back for episode nine and that
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gonna be very curious. If we
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well, kind of like the break
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fans level, let's bring them back. They'll do Avengers. They've always said

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for years they wanted you secret wars. Let's get them. And if these

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suck or disappoint, then it's like, you know, that's really good.

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The Kirkle made the joke about FIVEY
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of like I would start to worry
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what, might be time for someone
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at the same time they're keeping Kathy
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I'm excited to see what Avengers five
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something like Masters of Evil. I
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Avengers versus X Men. I don't
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anything just to get our team established
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So yeah, I'm overall, I'm
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I can't be disappointed with it.
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Chris broke the whole thing of Marvel
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thoughts. I liked the trailer,
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discord, I worry that the show
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gonna be as dark and spooky and
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taking footage and doing a good trailer
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this Iron Hearts, and there's a
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it's like content content content, So
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kind of on the backstep of people
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like they're trying to be, oh, it's darker, more adult, but

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Hal but with this, I don't
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then cap. I think this was
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chair. It's a good announcement tray. It's a good trailer that they want

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a friend dead Pool and Wolverine to
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time Marvels and Cinemas, it's this
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too. I think they really need
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need to see this? Other than
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I like the MCU, I like
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here? And then they did some
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guess Isaiah Bradley's gonna be like a
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him. And very crazy timing that
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in the States, and there's like
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like, yeah, that was pretty
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It's a good announcement. Stre I
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with Red Hulk. But that always
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they're trying to get it back to
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like Winter Soldier. It's gonna be
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those two things, and the leaders
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those two things go together. I
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Winter Soldier, but I feel like
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don't know how grounded you can keep
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they're saying a lot of stuff.
Also funny that John Carlow has just been

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reshooting the scenes now, but they
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to me, that's a win with
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think they are gonna be more careful
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poison the water hole anymore. So, mister Field, I think bringing the

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Russo's back is I mean, have
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and you love the old Guard.
I love the Old Guard. I'm a

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man after the Old Guard. Oh
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great idea. I really really do
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experience, and you've got a whole
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can examine, they can look at
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like piece together a story that works. And like you guys have already said,

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they can choose who to bench,
who not to bench, who'd bring

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in. And I think that there's
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a thing like this. So I'm
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works out. I hope they get
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is that downside where if it doesn't
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movie, then that's a nail in
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out of that hole. So it's
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up that there was originally a vaccine
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but they edited out because it was
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is like two products in a row
for cap where he's very close to real

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world stuff. Even though I think
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time to keep them because it's like
it's Captain America. They didn't fucking keep

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his suit though. I hate his
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say that, I hate that they
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it's just like it's just Steve Rodgers
discount suit in my opinion. So oh,

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it's a good thing. It's Taylor's
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to talk to his wife. Eh, she just walked in on me.

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one of those characters that I'm not
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fun in wand of it, but
getting her own show never really like blew

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my mind. So when I watched
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that I am really excited for.
Seeing the possession totally threw me to the

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side, like, oh my god, this is terrifying. I've got like

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Ash versus Evil Dead vibes watching this, and I really like that. But

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then there's other things too, like
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stuff that I'm not really driving with. At the end of the day,

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I'm excited to see how she's gonna
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trance that wanted to put her in
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how this show is going to end
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I'm not. I'm not super sold
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I need to wait a little bit. So it's working and jerking the other

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the other project here Captain America,
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him. Oh yeah, I'm k
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Hulk there, the Gamma radiotion,
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I'm interested to see how this is
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leader was in there, So I'm
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boosted now again because I know they
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apprehension on it because I just I
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I don't know, very low key
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but of course you got REREADHLG in
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I'm excited to see Harrison Ford in
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as you said, the Leader,
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what they're gonna do with all this
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there's lots of MC movies, Black
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Our Men's three even felt like espionage, but like super villains, like what

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do you call them? Not the
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I'll give you that, all right. Fine, Finally, trailers don't need

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to break all these down. We'll
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talk about. So we got trailers
this week for Ternaire zero as a Netflix

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animated series that's happening August twenty ninth, Watchmen Chapter one. They're doing the

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watch Them story in animation form.
That just looks identical to What If in

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my opinion, they're doing a chapter
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has a movie called f one with
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Joseph Kok whatever his name is,
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similar to whatever John Kerzinski is.
It's Joe Krazinsky or something. Nora,

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which was a big independent film in
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four as we live in a Time
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I forgot the Patreon questions because we've
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just pull them up here. I
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except for the one SPEC talk about. He said, not sure. If

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the Russo, oh, we we
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hit a billion, would they sway
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we'll see if they announce it.
But I think I think if that Star

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Wars news is true, and I
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think so unless the Russes fall apart
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he's out of the woods for now. Maybe he could come back in the

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future, though, you good for
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think Avengers personally. Yeah, so
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but I don't. I don't,
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rumor. I totally missed that rumor, I think, but I don't.

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I don't in my mind, I
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think. I guess. I don't
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that they need for an Avengers movie. Yeah, they've won him apparently a

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bunch because apparently they went to one
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end, but then the Star Wars
thing was happening. So they've about two

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times gone to me, like you
want to do this? So I think

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one day he will. Any director
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such a risky thing to do.
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think if his age, it's just
that nostalgia of I could make fans of

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Accolytes episodes. Yeah maybe, I
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sixty crowd, it is like and
I'd have that nostage too, But it's

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like it is that, like,
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Wars movie, it's always been,
It's been in my mind since I was

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eight years old, but doesn't fall
apart, probably so you know,