When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice mix in some vodka colored
a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well,
hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling a
friend. That's how we spread the word about the pirate ship. That race
is here. He's glowing today. You want to know why, because the
forty nine Ers went down more impart, the Cleveland and Eagles went down as
well. J E t s Jets, Jets Jets. Yeah, I know,
Patriots beat them the uh it's a funny thing. Well that I think
they were just pressuring and so much that they I mean they really got uh
some bad decisions on the Eagles. Well m Johnson I heard that made a
big difference. And then when you look at the forty nine ers, McCaffrey
going out and debo. Yeah, I was really really pissed because I thought
for sure that was gonna be like a blowout wind and it was at the
beginning. It was they ran right down the field. I was so happy.
And then tonight you got Dallas. How you feeling. I don't know.
I'm still pissed at him from last week. So we're not speaking,
okay, And then we have our swifty fan. We'll talk about his swiftiness
in his fiftiness. I think that's great. Yeah, he's a swifty in
his fifty. I'm driving here and I saw the weirdest fucking thing at the
corner of my eye. See this truck go off into a parking lot and
I look, I go, no, I don't know when this would have
happened, but they're driving around with no front windshield. What I couldn't tell
if there was something had just happened and they just kept going. But and
then the person was turning around, there was no wind shield. The front
bumper and all and grill were bashed in on one side. You couldn't like
windshields don't pop out anymore. They shattered. They's got to be somebody that
was No, it was a truck. It was like a it was a
pickup truck. I think of Chevy, and so I'm going they had to
clear the glass out of there. You don't see that stuff on the side
the west side. I expect that going What is on the car what is
going? Yeah, you're right with the bondo and then the front fender's green.
You gotta bull one of the I was going, what is going?
I'm so curious, like I almost wanted to stop and go what happened?
I want to know the story, but I don't know. I couldn't tell
if they were like doing a stunt thing or he wants to because he wasn't
going. It wasn't pulling into a garage. He was pulling into canking the
bottle return like he's I don't know, I got my bottles returned. I'll
get my windshield tomorrow. He was going, on there, it's a little
scary. Uh so Mark in the world of pop culture lost? Uh somebody
I think who was Probably I would think at some point in your life,
maybe you might have fantasized about the Ane Summers. Yea in the mag A
little bit, a little bit before my time. What do you mean a
little before your time? Three's Companies early eighties. No, it's not.
I was in the seventies. Well, I definitely got off to Susanne Summer's
seventies early eighties. I think, yeah, yeah, all right, Well,
Suzanne Summers I had read this, and then I actually found audio to
confirm it, but I was because sometimes you read stuff on the internet,
you never know. And it's an interesting thing because we always tell people stand
up for yourself, you know, you got to stand up for your push
back a little bits to be strong, and then when people are that way,
we basically get annoyed with them. They're pain in the ass and we
don't want them around. And especially when it's like a woman who's pushing back
a little bit at a certain time in history, it doesn't always go so
well. So she what her contract was up, and we've heard about like
Friends, where they each got a million dollars an episode, but they would
do it only if they kind of all bonded together, almost like a mini
union, and that was going to be the deal. So she apparently had
gone to John Ritter and Joyce and said, hey, why don't we bond
together. We'll get more money, And she was trying to get a pay
raise that would be comparable to what John Ritter was making. I think it
was one hundred and fifty thousand an episode at the time, the same thing
that I think Carol O'Connor was making on all in the family and the mash
alan Alda was making one hundred and fifty mash and all in the family had
lower ratings I think, significantly lower than the Three's company, which surprised me
when I but you know, I don't know if they had waned, if
they were coming towards the end of those shows. I have no idea.
But she talked about what happened when she kind of stood up to them,
listen to this. My contract is now up. I want you to pay
me what you're paying them in And I say to John and Joyce at the
end end of the season, before you know my contract's up, you two
have already renegotiated. I'm going to ask for big money and a piece of
the back end, and if you two back me up, because we have
favored nations, we'll all get it. So I'll be the patsy. In
the morning, when my husband had left for this meeting, he said,
you know, this could all blow out of the water. And I said,
they're not going to get rid of Chrissy. Never think that you're not
replaceable rule number one. Yeah. Yeah, And that was it, and
they got rid of her because they didn't want to pay her. They offered
her five thousand dollars. I think she was looking for close to like a
I don't know how much of a raise, maybe like a thirty thousand dollars
an episode raise. They offered her a five thousand dollars an episode raise.
She pushed back and they go done fired. Where that happened at the end,
Yeah, yeah, that's why she was off the show. Didn't think
about it, yep. And then they brought it. They did. They
brought another They brought in another boy, brought her cousin in. Because this
happened mid season. Yeah, yeah, so they brought a girl, girl
who actually was hot. They brought her cousin in. Yep, there was
her, and then there was another one. Two was it or two?
Then came in? Was on? Was on the rest of the season.
Yeah, the rest of the series. I mean then you had the thigh
Master. Great legs, how do you get them? I used to say
that today it's a great legs. You can't see it anything, you can't
can you hold on? I want to go back to that time in life.
Yes, great legs, how do you get them? I used to
do aerobics till I dropped and then I found thime Master. Every single time
you squeeze thime Master, you strengthen the tone right where you need it,
so it's easy to squeeze. Squeeze your way to shape the hip some thighs.
I thought I'd never fit into these jeans again. Thank you. Husbands
should be the one of the puffs up right is exercising these muscles with just
the right resistance, just balance resistance. Coil is designed to give you results
quickly and comfortably. Want to tone your upper chest and arms. The thig
Master will give you excellently. This thime Master every great legs. But now
we can look like we were. How much money she made off thigme master
all time, right? Three hundred million dollars man. I think it was
invented by a Swedish woman. She went into business and bought them and with
somebody else, and then she tells the story about how much money she made
from thigh Master. I use the thigh Master every day of my life.
I do fifty in the morning, fifty mid afternoon, and fifty while I'm
lying in bed at night. And I could crack walnuts with my thighs.
I live a good life and nineteen ninety five times ten million, so kind
of do the math, you know, and we're probably at fifteen million.
Now. We had partners fifty to fifty and they got drunk on money when
it all started selling, and they they overspent to the point where they could
no longer have ford to be in their side of the business. So we
bought them out. We have one hundred percent. How about that? Wow,
one hundred percent. She and her husband. So she's the one that
bought all them out. Yeah, she and her husband bought them out.
So they had so Now it was nineteen ninety nine and they sold fifteen million
of them at nineteen ninety nine, three hundred million dollars on a fucking thigh
mash. Do you ever look at these this ship and go Waden't I think
of that? Yes, heppans all the time. Sometimes we create things that
come out. It's like, what what was the There's been a couple of
things. Yeah, the VEGETI phone knocking? Oh yeah, yeah, when
you once you're in tax kit, you gotta you gotta do a breathalyzer to
open the phone. Oh, it's a great they have it. No,
we want to Oh, come on, I know, we got all idea
over here. Let's go make itu see it's a breathalyzer. You gotta blow
in your phone and you cannot open it. You can't text, you can't
call, you Can''s a great idea then, yeah, before texting got when
taxing started in popular Yeah, I told somebody Wagmans that they should start texting
when the when the prescriptions are done, and they do. I do know.
Yeah, yeah, that was your idea. Oh no, I mean
I'm sure someone else came up. Someone else came up with it, But
I mean I was there. I mean I was closed all right. You
didn't you say you're too young for Three's Company? I think No, I
mean I'm trying to think. How about this this show man? I mean
we saw oh wait, you remember this this one? Let's see, is
that the one with the kids? Yeah? Step by step that was on
the Friday. That was on the Friday. Yeah, that was like the
nineties. You would have been too old. No, I was been.
I watched Stay by the Bell in the ninety that was like ninety ninety one,
ninety two, because I graduated ninety two, and I remember yeahing on
high school. Yeah, I was in college. The company started in the
seventies, but they re ran them, and they did we run them?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they still run them. Well, I guess,
she said. She never talked to John Ritter after that, after she
got fired for twenty or thirty years, never got and she goes one day
out of the blue, I get a call and she said it was John
was John Ritter, and she's like, I'm I'm gonna So she gets on
and she said something to him like, uh, I hadn't I guess.
He gets on and goes, hey, I forgive you, and she's like,
I had to put on my big girl pants to go forgive me for
what? And then she didn't say anything. He said to her, listen,
I got this new show I'm doing. It's called Eight Simple Rules,
and I want to do a scene where I have a nightmare and I'm back
on Three's Company. And she said to him, well, I don't want
to be part of a nightmare scene. I don't want that to be portrayed
as a nightmare, she said, but I will do something with you.
And he died a week later, so she at least got to she talked
to him. She at least got to talk to talk to her one more
time before he died. But everybody else who's ever worked with that guy had
nothing but like glowing things to say. I've never read a bad thing about
that dude other than this, which was just kind of like, I think,
it becomes an awkward situation. She got fired, you decided to stay
on the show. What are you gonna do? Point he's making harm for
twenty thousand dollars a show. I was going to walk away? Yeah,
well, of course, right, imagine that back then too. It's a
lot. I know, Jesus Christ, that was in summers. I don't
know she had cancer, yeah, and she never did chemotherapy. She did
all natural. She did, Yes, she'd okay and I was going.
And she lived for twenty three years. She had breast cancer, now I
thought. The New York Post in an article yesterday said she had lived with
cancer for fifty years, some forms of cancer. Yes, So I don't
know what other cancer she I don't know, but all I know is that
she never did chemotherapy. Now all natural. I remember her being on Could
it have been on Weisa's show where she did some kind of she was you
know, you always get them, You would get these stars in eight minute
slots. She'd have eight minutes, and then you were told the things you
couldn't ask them about, which we would, yes, we would always try
to find a way to weave it in. Otherwise, the interviews for a
minute, that was that was the challenge. Sometimes you get them to see
if they would hang up on you. They do all this stuff, like
Ashton Kutcher when he was promoting like Butterfly Effect the movie. That's when I
was producing Wheeze and we were told we could not ask anything about to me.
More So, towards the end of the thing, I slipped Wheeze a
note about and he goes, bruh, you know you got you got some
tasty old ladies. She's quite the hot piece, a little old for you,
and he goes, yeah, and then it gets quiet. We're waiting,
and then he goes, it's so bad though, because I'm looking out
my hotel window now and I can see the paparazzi. He goes, I'm
trying to find a way to get out of here because I got to go
somewhere. There's somewhere I have to be. He goes, but I'll never
be able to get there with the paparazzi that's outside and it's all because of
that. It was like you got yeah, you got an answer. Sometimes
he didn't. Yeah, yeah, most of sometimes you would get the answer
because they're like, God, thank God, something different to fucking talk about.
Well see, that's the other thing is everything's the same, and they
have a lot of times they had no clue about what the what The publics
almost say, don't ask, Yeah, don't ask. You would get these
don't ask questions. But Susan Summers, I thought, came on to talk
about hormone replacement therapy and how at the time she was in her in her
sixties, and she would she and her husband were having sex three or four
times a week or a day or whatever it was. They were banging.
I don't blame them. Yeah, yeah, right, Well that that dude
man. He wrote that. I don't know how it got out, but
People magazine or something had the love letter he handed her. Her birthday is
today, she would have turned seventy six or seventy seven, and he handed
her some love poem and he could go read it with them there, but
it was like, you know, what is love? And he's like,
I close a lot of emails with love and I say love but you It's
so different and it's very sappy but sweet thing. I almost feel like it
should have been private. Sometimes I hate that stuff, you know, it's
a little more private. But speaking of pop culture, your girl was everywhere
this weekend. She sure was everywhere. Yeah. I came up with a
theory yesterday too. I know why this is happening. Christ You're not becoming
one of these conspiracy as. You guys might all agree with me with what
I with what I came up with, Okay, Taylor Swolf, Taylor Swift
and Kelsey, Yes, Travis Kelsey. I watched there's a documentary on Netflix
called Miss Americana, and it's about her her last album and tour. And
I picked up on something that Marianne kind of agreed on me. I picked
up on something. I think she's a lesbian. What I think she I
think she's I think she's covering up that's why she's out with Kelsey, that
he's the beard. There was just a lot of gay pride there. It
was just a lot of things going on in there that kind of like stood
out, and because people were all wondering why she's doing this, she's the
biggest person in the world. Why she's doing this. Maybe she likes she
does and I'm saying, maybe you know, but if it's not, if
this is the publicity, that might be the reason why. All right,
So the Eras movies out this weekend. Yes, and you went to it?
I did you see? I was thinking about you? And I almost
said because you texted me saying were you at the theater when you win?
When you texted me yeah you were? Yeah, Because I almost said,
are you alone? But you said you were with your girlfriend. I'm not
going to go alone. I'll go fucking the rested. I swear to God,
I think you. I was uncomfortable being there with my girlfriend who is
older. No. Sevent second, I gotta I'll play a song for Mark
the Uh. Okay, So I read reviews of this thing. It made
ninety four million dollars, Like she needs any more money? Made ninety four
million dollars at the box office. What did you think of it? Well,
I'm gonna start by saying that it was a shitty Saturday and I didn't
want to go. We alreadyould marry I bust the tickets. Yes, So
I made myself I made myself go. So we packed up. Perre was
good. We brought a bunch of stuff and we went in there. She
got she got great, she got great seats, and it was so I
was starting to get in a batter moond. It was fucking excellent. Yeah,
the whole thing was excellent. I mean, I just don't know.
And it was a three hour show. It was a three hour movie.
So we were like, oh, we'll stay for two hours. You know,
we don't have to see the whole thing. All of a sudden,
we're there at five thirty. All of a sudden, it's eight thirty and
we watched it. We stayed for the whole thing. Stay for I'm just
a girl. Okay, that's so. Kevin says to me, pot up
my phone and get my phone. He's all excited. He's gonna I actually
then that's producing. I don't know. All right, all right, so
hang on, were you the were you the only guy ever? No?
Well the others were bad. Fourteen year old. She took us two daughters.
So yeah, it's a I admired the fact that you have. But
you guys don't understand. I'm a music guy, and I know what talent
is and I know what it is. And this girl has been out since
she was thirteen years old, and I fouled that that whole career when she
played at the Bees is getting creepier. But where did she played the Bees
guitars? And she did, Yeah, she did. So we went and
we saw this girl, this this girl that was supposed to be the next
big thing. Okay, and use when it's the next big thing, it
doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. We've heard it with
sports, We've heard it with everything, right, we heard without You know,
Culver is going to be the next big thing. And I don't even
mean to pick on him because to even play at the level that that guy
played was amazing. You can say that about a lot of Yankees process.
Yeah, sure they failed more than they're good. Yeah, So so I
can't. I don't have a problem. I just I was saying to myself,
I go, if you're a fan. I was like, would Marco
by himself or would he wait to stream it? It's gonna come out,
Yeah, come out. But we wanted to go, and well the fact
that you went with your girlfriend is fine, right, yeah, that makes
it. I wouldn't want to that by myself. But it's creepy because I
did read where some thirty nine year old guy was put out. It must
have been like a thing, you know, one of these dear abbys or
whatever in the paper. He's like, I was thinking of going, but
I'm afraid it look like a pedo, and I go, always afraid,
afraid it's sick. I could have taken my daughter. We actually that was
that was the joke, and Marianne said, we should have brought Jocelyn.
We should have brought her so I see, but her lyrics from the time
she was thirteen and she's thirty four now, it was great. The lyrics
just got I mean, she's writing these songs when she's thirteen fourteen years old,
you know, and and the songs she gets so in this era's tour,
she's going through seventeen years album, she's going through all her albums,
and you can see her getting better and battery. You can see when she
leaves country and she goes to pop and she took a big chance that could
have you know, in the Markana movie, I saw because I knew you
were going to talk about it. I did watch the trailer, yes for
the Eras tour, and she says at one point she told people that she
was gonna do this, and they go, you're gonna play from like all
your albums and she's like, yeah, it's called errors. I'll see you
there, yes, and or something to that effect. And then only it
always goes back to you gotta you have to believe in whatever you're doing,
because everybody else is. They're not They're gonna tell you how, and they're
not telling you. They're not telling you to destroy your dream. I don't
believe most people are that fucking mean. We hear about the mean people,
but I think there are a smaller group than we give them credit to.
But I think most people, Matt, you probably got this in the restaurant
business. Hey man, all these warnings don't do this, and when you
had an idea, and now you know, I don't know if anybody's come
to you and going, oh I was wrong. I'm glad you didn't listen
to me, have you. I mean, Mark is one of them,
Okay, yeah, I mean, and you weren't saying anything to be mean.
You were saying it kind of I was gonna say o him. That
was that I was wrong with. This is before I was in the business.
But a lack of a better term, I of love. You want
to see your friend face. You don't want to see your friend, right,
so you try to give advice. If you got an idea and you
believe like this broad belief, don't tell anybody, Just do it. That's
what this is. This is right here tonight. This is don't tell anybody,
Just fucking do it and then let them come out and go, Well,
that will never work. No one ever made any money. Okay,
it's all on her terms, though, Yes, this is all her.
Everything that's done is her. Let me read you mean, get the box
office numbers for the weekend. Ninety four million is what I had to.
Well, it's only in North America. Ninety two point eight domestic and then
thirty point seven international international, being we're saying North America. So I figured
it was just North America. It was just Canada and Mexico. But I
don't I would assume she's an international forts. Okay, those four thousand theaters,
that's not many throughout the country, is it not? For no?
What is a traditional open I have no idea what a traditional opening would be,
like, let's say, uh, mission impossible or Mavericks opening. It's
on every theater right right. I don't know if this is there. No,
he just said forty five. Seem it was less. So I want
to read you what Rogeribert dot com. And I don't know who's reviewing this,
okay, but Rogeribert dot com the late critic, he said, whoever
wrote this says simply, as a technical spectacle, Taylor Swift the Errors Tour
is a dazzling achievement, capturing the sensation of seeing the pop goddess sold out
concerts and all their normanity and intimacy. And this person started out by saying,
is it one hundred and thirty six minutes? It's three hour? Yeah?
Yeah, okay. I think they said, oh that's not quite three
hours. She's a little over two hours and change. I thought they said
one hundred and thirty six minutes. Maybe I'm wrong, but the person said
they were dreading it and it went by so fast and it was almost dizzying.
And then later in the in the review said, but regardless of the
Araswifts revisiting her singular ability to connect emotionally with both the songs and her audience
is what shines through. Her showmanship is astonishing, her hustle, her joy.
There's an abiding authenticity at the core, even as we see her evolve
from one album to the next, right in front of her eyes. Is
it just concert footagers behind the scenes? So far from it's from l It's
from LA. It's a it's all so fine. You're seeing Yeah, you're
seeing the schoncer from the beginning to the YA. And I'm gonna tell you
something man. She wrote a song called Tim McGrath y. She was thirteen,
Oh she did. That was when she was thirteen, but they released
it when she was fifteen sixteen. She wrote it and when she the first
time she played at the country wards Tim and Faith for sitting in the front
row and she went over but she's singing the song, and she went over
and introduced herself. Hello, I'm Taylor. That's some fucking balls, you
know. But the song is about no, yeah, I know. But
she went over and introduced herself and the place went not you know, I
mean, I guy said it was the first time they met. But the
song was wasn't really about It was about Tim Grass. The person's about his
songs, Yes, about his songs. How they touched her much like Bruce,
like Springsteen. That's right. You introduced yourself to faith Hill, didn't
you, by having her signed your kid. No, that was Carrie Underwood.
Oh, I offered to have her sign Jamison's forehead. You not carry
on? Yeah, And intimately this was one of those where you're not like
I met Faith Hill where it was like standing next to a cardboard cutout.
She's tiny, and you just stood there, took your picture and moved on,
take a picture and move on. The line was like out. It
was sneaked all around the back hallways of the Blue Cross Arena. So that's
not that wasn't great. But the Taylor Swift or carry Underwood came into uh,
into the studios. Really. Yeah, so we chatted for a minute.
Yeah, kept it very quiet, mark pressing your face. Oh man,
I would have found it waiting to get in right, No, you
know I would, Yes, you would. All right, Well take a
moment. Uh, I'm a little worried about the Buffalo bills. Don't be.
We're gonna talk, Yeah, I am, and I'm gonna tell you
why I'm gonna tell you, I don't like when the quarterback and I get
it, I understand, but when there's a melee on the field, we
don't need you going in to throw a shoulder. I just I do not
need to see you throw a shoulder, right, I mean, if Dak
does that, do you not get a little nervous? No, hichoh,
go ahead and jump in. But no, Look, I get the idea
of like, I want your franchise, put your franchise guy. And then
I saw him on the ground kind of wincing with the shoulder. And then
after the game he's going, yeah, I got banged up. Yeah,
you got banged up. You think that's how he got Do you think that?
I don't know. I'm not sure. I saw him on the ground
way before that, But then he runs yes, And then he runs in
later on during that fight a melee at the end and he drops his shoulder
on the lineback passion. Of course. I love his passion, and I
get it. I've been in those moments. Man, I could be the
same. But I'm going you gotta be a little bit smarter than that,
dude. Yeah, we're trying to make all that money right and get to
the Super Bowl. We will talk to the future owner of the Buffalo Bills
next bTB tonight. So Kevin says to me, Hey, do you trust
me to order? Kevin always orders food for us, which is wonderful,
and tonight shows up chicken and waffles. Those waffles are the you don't even
need syrup on them, they're the best. Like everything there is so good.
But you can also go and rent your back room for parties. I
did for the for the after funeral, so and it holds sixty five people,
sixty five countryably. Yeah, it's a nice more, but you don't
want to do more now. Yeah, but that's nice for like holiday parties,
for work or if you're gonna you know, some people, if you're
having like even a baby show or something. I mean, it's a good,
good place. I recommend it. I'm not being biased. It was
the everything was excellent on Friday. You know you're going through you know,
that's where you don't want to It's one thing you don't want to worry about.
Yeah, you know, and everything was taking was taken care of,
just excellent. I had the wrong So when when you go, you have
you got to order a package. Do you order a package on the on
the website, or you can talk to somebody on the on the phone.
That's all it costs. Doesn't cost anything to rent the room. You buy
a carrying package the week before, you give us the amount of people of
the head count. That's what you pay. If you get more people,
and you're gonna be short on food obviously, but you know we've done everything
from baby showers. Have I gotta I gotta ask a question, and this
is nothing to do with anything, but how do you like estimate per person?
Because a lot of times let's say, well, let's say you have
sixty five let's say I say to you, listen, man, we got
fifty people coming, so you know how much food? And anytime I've beend
someplace where there's fifty people, I usually see food left over. I don't
factor kids, yeah that eat like maybe a chicken nugget. Yeah, well,
un around. But sometimes you get some some people, some women that
I mean check. I don't mean to pick on women's you know there's time.
Usually if somebody says fifty, yeah, we'll make enough food for sixty
sixty five, I rather have extra food and have them take it than run
out of food. Okay, Unfortunately Friday we ran out of food because they
didn't think there would be that many people. It was crazy, but you
know, yeah, and everything was fine. I got, I got.
I think someone sent me a picture of you. What I think John the
nurse took a picture with you, or maybe he took a picture of himself
at the thing? Oh, John nurse's friends with Chances sister. Yes,
yes, he was nice and I was I was drunk. I don't really
remember. Well good, I'm glad you were drunk. Yes, I mean
I remember you texting me. Oh I did. Yeah, Well, I
just wanted to make sure you're right. I didn't. Oh, I don't
know how you go, you know, I mean, that's that's a long
time anyway, not not not to dwell in that. But look what made
it nice? Be TV? Absolutely Yeah. I have to show you a
text that I got from the listener, and then I don't know how to
answer. We had a listener that came in the other day looking for me.
I was I was out of town but wanted to talk to Method was
on the Bilified podcast, which I thought was really cool. And I'm sorry
I missed you. But it's cool that your listeners are coming and talking about
the podcast. I just I got it. I got a text and I
go, I'm not answering this. I'm gonna just show it to Matt and
let Matt you No, it's not even that. It's like I just don't
feel like I can. It's not you know what I mean. It's not
my business. But people love it and they hear us talk about it,
and you know that pizza deal is phenomenal, and I know you know you
get it. I'll just say what it is. It's a large one topping
pizza for ten bucks on a Friday and ten bucks on Tuesday. You know
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was a win, it was an ugly win and the future owner of the
Buffalo Bills was probably not in great spirits. Yeah. Well, brud Mark
always getting the right. I appreciate it. Well, whatever, that's a
good that's a good Monday morning, Monday after root, I mean, yeah,
my frustrating all right, Greg, here's my question. Where would the
Bills offense be if they didn't have digs to constantly bail them out? Yesterday?
Oh maybe the New England Patriots. Oh we scored yesterday, I mean,
I Greg, they were shut out for three quarters. I don't think
that's happened since that Green Bay game. And I forget what year that was,
twenty eighteen or something. Yeah, the frustration level, you know,
is getting to an all time high with this. You know. Ken Dorsey
did his press conference today as he does the day after as the McDermott.
And you know, there's something about local media that just doesn't ask the questions
that need to be asked, like why are you not putting people in the
into the flats, into the zone down the scene when they're when when when
it allows for it. Either he doesn't understand what the defenses are doing against
him and if he if he doesn't get that, then I don't know what
the hell he's doing as an NFL offensive coordinator, or or is a horrible
play caller. I mean, I can't get over the ineptness of watching his
offense just sputter and sputter. It's either that or he's got the wrong players.
I mean, look, Knox has got to catch that ball. Yeah,
I agree. I mean I know they're going to say, like both
guys in the post game said, you know, it's my bad. I
should have caught it, or I should have thrown it higher. You threw
that, You throw that a little bit higher. Knox gets a game over.
We don't. We don't have this where I'm literally like I was so
nervous, I had sweaty, but I thought I was gonna throw and I
never get that. I was losing my mind. I'm sure I'm losing my
freaking mind. Is it? The thing is, you know, could because
the ball has been up a little higher, sure could have been. Well,
you know what, you're in the NFL. You're a freaking NFL.
You've got to make the play. I mean, Josh could have played,
could have been a little better, could have been a little better. But
come on, you're not going to not making that catch. Other than the
Giants the game, I mean, they had two possessions after one yard line
to end the second quarter and to end the game, and they didn't ask
you either one of them. Thank god, were you at the game?
I was so did you? Were you able to see Dable at the half?
You might? You may have seen the replace today. I mean he
was John ty how do we say it, Tarad? That guy Tyrod.
I mean he was just chewing his ass out because it was an option play.
You know, it was a I think a run option, and he
chose to run and it went nowhere. It was a bad cause, I
mean it's wide open. You don't he turns around and I don't know who's
standing behind him. I don't know if it's an assistant offense coordinator or not.
This kid's whole face is a younger guy. His whole like, you
got that, but it wasn't me that. Yes, yeah, I gotta
tell you. But you know what, and this is how bad you know,
you know, your life experiences in situations and circumstances had an influence over
your decision base. This is how you got one yard to go. Yeah,
all the Saquon Barkley and get him in the damn end zone. Are
you kidding me? He is your offense, he's your number, he's your
best offensive weapon. And what do they do? They put it Tyrod takes
it, keeps in his own hands. He tried to do that at the
end of the second quarter. It was a little bit deeper. He didn't
make it happen, not getting any points. Fourth quarter, you got the
ball to one yard line. It doesn't happen at the end of the second
quarter. Nine point nine, nine, ten times you give that fall the
Barklings, they get in the end zone, but they didn't because of what
happened before that offense, that offensive line is a huge problem in New York.
It is they seemed to be They seem to be a little bit better
last night some of the guys at least, I mean they looked at one
guy off his couch. He said, yeah, I know, yeah,
because straight out, straight off the couch. You know how they do that,
all right, I'm out of St. John Fisher University. Greg would
say about an Alfred University. I'm straight off the couch. What I remember
looking at the TV back to Dorsey though, is it his call to be
in the booth or would he be better suited down on the field, kind
of working with Josh between series, because they kept showing Dable and Josh for
all those years, and Dables right there with him on the side. He
was for in the beginning Josh, and then he went up above. Yeah,
go up above he was. And one of these things was because she
was such a dabled is such a high head, and Davie was so passionate
about stuff. It needed to be up in the booth where it was business
life. Yeah, he was in time out up there, you know he
was. It was a little calmer, he was a little more business like.
He was sitting down. He was able to process things a little bit
better. You had a better perspective of the field. And and different things.
I think I think Dorsey needs to be up up top. I think
it's better for him to see everything from up and you can get a you
can get a feel for kind of formational stuff. And then down in distance,
I think you I think you can get a better perception of that from
up top. I don't Dorsey again. He I just don't understand why he
puts the offensive line and Josh in positions on a pre snap situation where he's
not requiring a defense to reveal their their positions. Move it, flip it,
let the defense tell you what the hell they're doing. He doesn't do
that. I don't understand it. I don't get it. It's striving to
be freaking crazy again. Dabel did the same damn thing for four years and
then finally when they got their butts kicked by Jacksonville. In Jacksonville it was
nine to six game. I mean, what remember that game? Yes,
it was after that that Dable began to then formations to get Josh and more
important to the offensive line. They're blocking teams or having better ideas of who's
coming and wasn't coming. But yesterday I just didn't seem like that that Dorsey
was calling the right play against the against the defenses that were anticipated. I
think that was the thing. I think the problem is, isn't it if
people are forgetting this. Dabel helped was the first coach of Josh Allen.
He's the one the coach Josh Allen. He's the one that you know,
so who knows Allen better than Dabell. People are aren't talking about that in
terms of like scheming against him. I know, I agree, I think,
I mean, and Dabel look that he had that team psyched up for
the game. He did Tyrod Taylor supposedly all of a sudden, is in
Dave were piped up for that game for you know, for Dabel right and
Dabell coming home right. I just think, you know, I mean,
I hate to think that professional athletes get up for one game more than another,
but but I think as a human being, you can't help it.
Oh Bill, heck, yeah you do. Yeah, that's not saying I
mean, I think as a human being you can't help that. It would
just be right, You're gonna get a little more pumped up the coaches a
little more. He wants to go in there and he wants to win.
Against the game. I was on the sideline in the pre game and Dabel
had those guys ready. I mean, those guys were There was something about
John and I said, I go, this game makes me When I got
down there and I saw the way those guys were kind of walking. They
had a bit of confidence even though they sucked, but they had swagger that
was kind of like, you know what, we got nothing to lose here.
We got nothing to freaking lose than andying dangerous. Yeah, and Son,
you know you're playing Buffalo prime time Buffalos where people wind up going there
and beat them there because they don't lose it home. Yeah. And and
the other thing that made me nervous was you know, we're we're talking about
this London and they flew our Friday and sold their tired I thought that was
BS. I did not agree with that. What I was afraid of was
the hangover from the travel, which was this week, when you get back
here, you're more tired coming back. I I've been more tired coming back
than I was going there. Then you got the primetime game, you got
the late game, and to me, it was a trap game. I
was like, Oh, they stink are coming in the giants are going to
be jacked up the dabled against a old guys, and sure enough, look
what they freaking did? They almost laid the goose egg guy or I can't
believe it. Yeah, this came right down to the wire. And in
terms of being a fan, I mean, that's what you right, You're
right on the edge. Just the adrenaline is pumping. But that pass and
and you're seeing a lot of video today where you pass interference, but I
think there was also offensive pass interference on that one as well. I had
a full face mask. He had his hand right there on the face mask.
MA. Now, I just they called it the first time. The
second time, it's like, let the fellas play. I agree, I
don't know what that at that point. I mean, you could have called
it. I think he could have argued either way. I'm glad they didn't
call it clearly as a fan. But oh wait, wait a second bill,
come on, don't pull that crap. Pull crap definitely pass. Oh
well yeah, but what I'm saying is the other guy. The other guy
had his hand on his mask though. Did he grab it though, Because
he can have his hand on the mask as long as he does not I
don't know. I look like I don't know. I know it doesn't sound
dumb. I know exactly what you're saying. It doesn't sound dumb at all.
It's but I couldn't tell from the angle I saw. I couldn't tell.
So I just a lot of calls go against Buffalo. Some got to
go with him too, you know. That's the way the game is.
These guys. Until these NFL officials are full time and you hold them accountable,
you're going to continue to get these ship calls. That's the problem.
Yeah, that they do hold them accountable. I mean, they do do
the review on them, and then they grade them. The coaches greade them,
and then the NFL grades them. So as a former defensive back,
you get a you get a you get a pass interference call like he had
on a play before, right, and that was a whole bar as well.
Yes, you'll do it the next play too. Constantly hold the next
play because is that refly gonna call it twice in a player? No,
the chance of getting now so we're a different player. Then the champions go
up that they would make the call the second call, though it feel not
as great as there was no call previously. So at the former DV I
always would grab them the time the play right after the Champion de game call
over Slimmon zero and thank god they didn't make that call. I mean,
it's one of those things that I mean, you see what happened with I
mean that shook the team up. The stadium kind of went flat after that.
You know, it was kind of like, oh, Parrish, yeah,
Damien Yeah. It was like, oh my god, is this another
damar situation? If those players, do you even want to play prime time?
Point No? I mean once you gave the thumbs up and you got
later, yes, it was very scary. It was very scary. Oh,
very scary. And it really, I mean the stadium was a was
got I mean it was it was a somber tone until you got an indication
that he was okay. But you know that that's exhausting. But even for
the players then to go all right, let's get back into this hit each
other, you know, it's like what we well, that's what that's what
I mean by it's exhausting is that you're you're pumped, man, you're jacked
up, and you've got a certain mindset, frame of mind you're getting after
it. It's work there. And you see one year Goomba, your boys
go down like that and you lose. I mean you get the plated.
You're like holy ship because you then worried and then you have that that that
emotion, that energy to then try to jump right back and change your mindset.
That's a that's a that's a draining element that people don't I think always
appreciate. And then what happened second half. I called it London legs in
that fourth quarter when when say Kwama was running all over them. The same
thing happened last week against the Jaguars. Right, they just don't have that
let they don't have the leg and they're on the field too long. Yeah.
Yeah, Look the defense though seems to be playing pretty well. Gave
up nine points. Yeah, that's great. I mean, that's that's Sean
McDermott y. And with all the injuries that they have after the dragon,
he just let that slide. See Fraser coming back going back next year.
No, it's gonna be Rod Rivera. So well, Greg, if you're
up for a road trip this Sunday, I'm in. That's right, you're
going to Yeah, uh I gotta think he's taking his private driving a car
with you. You've been invited, but I don't think I can pull it
off. Yeah, they have game travel, so but I don't think I
can pull it off. If I grow my hair this week, I'll go
with you. There, you got, there, you go. You're taller
than American, Yeah, you just get so you get a what are the
weave or the I got a mullet. I'm a swifty so I'm a swifties,
So I can go with you. That would be a blast. Great.
I don't know a part of me right now. I don't I need
He did a step back and watched from home because I've been to too many
of the games this year that I'm like, I almost feel like there's bad
mojo. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta get a better frame of
mind because I'm just so frustrated the way Dorsey's played calling he is bad.
The My game was fantastic. It was fun. Yes, he was hitting
on alice cylinders. Yes, either either he was in the he was in
McDaniel's head, or he had there. They were steeling their signals because he
had the guys in the spots that they needed to be with all the soft
spots on the defense, and man, he left the games. They're not
there at all. It's a weird phenomenon for me to watch this and unlike
you're you're the guy that comes on the show later in the week that breaks
the twenty two downs. Oh yeah, I don't have the I don't have
the time to watch him like that. I watched it once after the game
so I can actually relax and go to sleep. Uh yeah, I love
the all twenty two is amazing. You won't need to watch much of that
week. I mean, Stevie Wonder could be your offensive coordinator, probably putting
for next year. I I gotta say this, Greg, will you talk
to Josh Allen like? I love a guy who's got a lot of passion,
and I love that he's got his players back. But when you go
running into the melee and throw a shoulder at a linebacker, A what's wrong
with that? What do you mean? What's wrong with it? God,
he was on the ground earlier grabbing at his shoulder and then used the same
shoulder then the lower and go out of guy? What's wrong with playing quarterback?
I saw Kyle Allen come in for a few plays and I was like,
oh God, that one's over. Season's over. Okay, I agree
with you probably shouldn't use the same shoulder to be the nim knot, But
the fact that I am, first of all, I'm okay with that because
that that kind of got some energy back. That got some energy back in
the team. And that's what he is good at. He is a stolid
leader. He's the guy. He's he's your buddy that always has your back.
So you're gonna do whatever you can't for that guy. I'm okay with
that. Now, had he had it been during the play and he chased
out and then tried to Blocken or something, that's a vengeance. Okay,
that's not a good play. But that was the play was dead. He
was just being a he was being a schoolyard kid. I'm okay with that
stuff. As long as you don't get hurt, that's all I worry about
him. I'd the guy of Josh Allen stature. Shouldn't he have a lot
of say in this offense? Like he should be an audible, he should
be able to do things. I know he's able to do. Somebody it
seems like he doesn't have enough say in this offense. Yeah, I don't
know. You know, that's a that's a great question because one of the
things that when when when Marchibroda took Jim and got him into the k gun.
Well, first of all, Jim's personality is very different than than Josh.
Jim isn't know at all. Jim is always arguing with you when he
thinks he's right. And he probably just got Sticky Card to argue with him
and said, you know what, you son of a dog, why don't
you do this on your own? And he did it, and and they're
like, go ship, now we got a thing to do this. I
think for me, I'm a as a former defensive player. Flow is everything
and energy is everything. And if you can get Josh and that team to
get going at a different pace, I don't I think they're too lazy on
offense. I think they got a temple with I want to get the offense
going. I want to I want them at the line calling plate, keeping
the defense off the field, keeping their own personnel on the field, and
then trying to work it and then use the athleticism. We got the pretty
canalentented skill players with good speed. Let's use it. Let's get that going.
At the beginning of the game, it's too drown You know, they've
burned almost an entire play clock every time in those first couple of possessions.
You kidd me, get the ball going, get it going, get this
spling going, get it to the edge, get the ball offside, and
get up the freaking field. That's what they kind of did against Miami.
They kept it rolling. They didn't I feel like too. That's what McDermott
was sort of alluding to himself in the post game, saying, we need
to get that rhythm. And I don't know, some people are saying that
he wants you to hand it off and get the run going in the beginning.
I don't know how people were interpreting that, but it sounds pretty much
like what you're saying. Defense is going to play like you want him on
the field all the game. But yeah, you know what, the first
couple of drives go, no huddle, drive it right down their throats,
get it going, get the momentum going, and take it from there.
And I like that. I like when you're under center. You know that
the old traditional side one is because the linebackers got a hold bounder. The
linebackers got a hold when you're under center. One of the reasons why it's
affect him on the pass is because the linebackers at the hold. Otherwise you
know, he dumps it and you break through the line and he got seven
eight yards before there's any contact. So I like to play action off of
that. You just got to make sure that that you mix it up,
get more balanced in it. Yeah, would just freaking hammer it him,
by the way, I'm a huge fan of And you're not gonna like this
still when you when we're having a challenge that we've had and it's like first
and second down and there's nobody over the center and they've got a big gap
and I think I can't remember what play was. It was early in the
game and there was like nobody in the a gaps. It was like it
was like a wide open in the center because they were they were going to
come at their coming after him, dinner center going up underneath just you know,
running to the linebackers. Get eighteen yards, Josh get get quarterbacks.
Well he can right again, you just worry that you know, how many
hits can he take? But yeah. I mean he's a big duties.
He doesn't look you can't play. He doesn't. No, you can't.
You don't want to hurt, but he can't play. Scared either. Post
game on the field, they caught him. He really didn't want to have
this interview. You could tell, but he said, uh, I'm a
little banged up. And I mean I saw him on the ground. They
showed him and he was wincing at one point, So yeah, you just
worry. That's where I went, Well, then don't go throw the shoulder
after you just were wincing on the ground, please, But good for him
defending his guys. Then, well, look, as I said, you
know, before Greg came on earlier, I could see myself doing the same
thing. You're just gonna run out there and try to defend your guys.
That offensive line is never going to forget that. Yeah, right, and
Bill, that's why we love you because we know you do the same myself.
I can't. I can't blame them for it. I can't either.
I just go, man, well you know what it is too. I
think it was pointed out it might have been on Good Morning Football where they're
like, you know, this is usually where the most quarterbacks kind of kind
of stepped aside and let the other guys handle it, not Josh Allen.
At this they weren't saying one way or the other whether it was good or
bad. I mean, they were sort of alluding to, like, man,
maybe not the smartest thing for a quarterback, but we all appreciate it.
That's why I'm trying to prove. Yeah, well what's that? That's
why people love him. Ye's just you know, so I think, uh,
what do they got? They got two buys this year? One is
coming up next weekend. What I said that about Arizona. By the way,
New England defense looks pretty good. We could catch the Bills at the
right time. Here I heard Josh Allen think last weekend yesterday was your best
shot. Well, here's hoping you got to score an early score. Yeah.
I mean for me, this team coming up again into New England really
is it's an injury thing at this point the season. You know, who's
healthy, How are they? How are they clicking? You know, I
think the defense is banged up as well after this last game. The offense,
you know, the offense with Josh obviously, his health is a major,
major concern coming off. For me, I can't stand playing against Belichick
because he can scare the hell out of you. What he can do with
defense is he can be so unorthodox. And right now, Belichick, he's
got nothing to lose, are you kiddings? What do they have to lose?
And so that's where Belichick's creativity. You know, he might put who
might have eleven guys standing up on the line of scrimmage just standing up ready
to catch and then run the you know who's gonna rush or who's gonna drop
in the coverage, just to confuse the hell out of them, right and
you know, so those are the things with Belichick that just that you just
don't know about. And for me, give me concern. Uh. I
think this week coming up is going to be I think the Bills are either
going to lay an egg like they did last night, or they're going to
put forty five up on them like they did what two years ago in the
playoffs. That that that's kind of where they seem to go, either filing
all cylinders or they're not. And if you're not filing all cylinders and you're
in New England and you have turnovers like they did, last night. I
mean, that'll freaking kill you. Unfortunate and penalties only penalty the game gets
interesting, and that this thing last night that just kind of was like,
you know, you're you're you're grabbing, I'm grabbing, pulling the hair out
of my head? Is that is that Dorsy's not doing us any favors and
it's play calling, but dam we're not helping ourselves because they're making super they're
making super pedalsy. It's just foolish to do that against these guys. If
there's servants quarters this week, and maybe I'll spling over and watching the servants
course you're new your man cave. Oh yeah, dude, If I'll be
in touch this week, let you know what, let you know what's going
on. I got my pooper, super guy coming to pick up the pooper.
All set, perfect guy, nice well Greg? Then we uh,
the only thing left to say is go bills or not? Ye, go
bills, Go bills, buddy, got that we need to because the Dolphins
are freaking hammered it. Man, they're not all shilling. They are again.
I don't want to peek. I don't want to say. I hope
we didn't peak against the Dolphins this year similar to what we did last year.
You know, we got to stay healthy, get through this run because
we don't have our we don't have our buy. I think it's six more
weeks, seven weeks, the beginning of December. So staying healthy through this
and uh, you know we do. We got two games in ten days.
We play against We play against the Patriots, and then we play Thursday
night in Buffalo against the Bucks. Yeah Mayfield first round, first round pick.
Yeah, twenty eighteen draft. Well, I yeah, I like the
six and two. We'll take that. Yeah. Yeah, Oh, that'll
be a huge. That'd be a huge that that that win tears up the
thing, right, win cures it off. So that's right, today's win.
Yeah, in December, when it comes to January seventh, we go
into the Dolphins game in South Florida. Uh, that game against the Giant
will be only remembered because it's counting in the Winton column, and it will
it will definitely be important. I think it's that game as to who wins
the ass and then he gets the higher seat. So all right, take
them anyway we can get them, guys, that's right, Greg, anyway
we can get them, well as a future owner. I think, uh,
I think you got to get in Dorsey's here. Yeah, yeah,
I almost gallant year yesterday. I think he'd probably urge it. All right,
all right, guys, thanks mans talking with bills, go bills.
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rarely children and Palaestindian children, and it took me back to a really horrible,
horrible place. And you know, no one in this world deserves to
suffer like that, you know, especially not kids. You know. After
my dad died, my mom tried pretty much everything she could do to cheer
me up. I remember one day when I was eight, she got me
what she thought was a Disney movie, but it was actually the Eddie Murphy
stand up special Delirious, and we played it in the car on the way
home, and when she heard the things Eddie Murphy was saying, she tried
to take it away, but then she noticed something. For the first time
in a long time, I was laughing again. I don't understand it.
I really don't, and I never will. But sometimes comedy is really the
only way forward through tragedy. You know, my heart is with everyone whose
lives have been destroyed this week. But tonight I'm gonna do what I've always
done in the face of tragedy, and that's try to be funny. Remember
I said, try and live from New York. It's Saturday night. I
actually thought I was great, that's awesome. I went Holy's awesome. Pete
Davidson who knew he's great. I like him, you do, I do?
I liked his He had the one movie I can't remember it was on
that. It was on that you just you just want? Yeah, yeah
I didn't joy. I actually did enjoy that. And then he had a
series on Peacock. I hear he was funny where he's playing himself and did
you you saw it? Yeah? I think he made fun of that and
his mom and his actual monologue that like three people watched it. Mom,
Joe Pesci was his was his grandfather? Yeah? I heard good things about
was his mother? Wow, he's playing himself? But which is was just
fun just playing buff State. I think in November I just saw something come
across that he's gonna be doing a show up buff State. Ariana Grande,
Kim Kardashian, Kate beckinsal Emily you rad rad to Kouski now you Sawski she
uh Man. That was just some like yeah, is this ma is God
making up for a bad childhood? Taking your dad? I mean, look
at that. That's like that's a murderer's row. I mean that just goes
to prove that if you have a sense of humor and you're a good guy,
then you know I can get the check. I guess so. And
then there's a bunch of women and I don't even know who they are,
but Pete Davidson, you would hang out with that well get his leftovers?
Oh yeah, you know what I mean. I got your left I got
your leftovers back in the day. You did not. I talked to somebody
today. I don't know if you know her. She says, what are
you doing? Going to the podcast Bill's podcast? And she called you make
dreamy and she said, and she said, since she met you because you
we used to work with somebody she was friends with. When she met you,
she was she's always thought you were hot. Well, I don't know
who that is. I don't know think, I don't even know if you
if you'll know her? So, Okay, am I supposed to see that
light? This is one point he wanted to So I'm supposed to ask.
I don't know how am I supposed to follow us up? Matt? What
am I supposed to do? You want me to do? Tell you?
No? No, no, what am I supposed say? It's like she
is? She hot? All I'm saying is that somebody that we worked with
friends. You have to figure we worked there thirty years ago. I know.
Okay, so she's probably our age. All right, okay, so
what are you saying? Like the rolling Stone song time? Maybe I mean
I'm not seeing well time this in the song time the lyrics. You gonna
tell him that some woman's is he doesn't, he won't know who it is.
Why would that? Why does that make it? I'm gonna mention the
name. He's gonna go don't know. Yeah, I don't. I probably
don't. But that wasn't When I asked, is she's so hotter? She
bustes what he's asking? I don't answer. Don't answer. I don't answer
that. Do not answer that. I'm not answering answer a very nice person.
You just answered she's very pretty. You just answered that, not with
a pH. That's not nice. Got it? When do we give a
compliment? I'm just you. I was just playing with you. Like all
of a sudden, the girl says it all of a sudden gets turned on
me. I like how he also he also plays the guilt carbon. He's
gonna he's gonna question the question, the question, and like these as will
ask for me I call him an instant's biggest instigator in my life. Why
Bill and I get along? I don't have to do anything to make myself
poking guy me what I get to talking about? When I get a foot
tap out of the table, I know it's my turn. Stupid question for
him? All right? Now? Could you get arrested for giving somebody an
STD? Could they sue you? I guess, I guess arrested isn't the
right term. Now. I wouldn't think that that would be something like if
you enter something into something. But if you I didn't even mean to say
it like that, but if you do something there's is there inherited risk?
I mean, you're kind of taking an inherited risk if you don't use protection
you could get there could be a pregnancy, an unwanted pregnancy potentially, or
there could be sexually transmitted diseases. Don't be a full wrap your tool.
But listen to this story, and I think it gets a little better because
it involves a minister and in Houston reverend order to pay two point four or
five million dollars to a woman that a jury found he gave herpes to Okay,
the jury agreed, so this has to go to court. You have
to sit there in front of everybody and talk about and there's pictures, and
there's God there. I don't know what there is. It's court. You
gotta have pictures, gotta have evidence. I've seen legally blonde come on tonight.
That woman's lawyer is speaking only to our Devin Clarks, who's live outside
the courthouse where the judgment was granted just this morning. Devin Keith Danielle,
that attorney we spoke to, says it was a three day trial with six
and a half hours of deliberations, and after that a jury found Reverend Ralph
D. West the Second liable and ordered that hefty judgment. So he got
a reverend and he gave it chick herpes. And now she's won a two
point four to five million dollars settlement. Does she get to keep the herpes
too? Apparently, Joe, that's your parting gift, right. I can't
fix it. She's got it for the rest of your life. Attorney Sean
Murphy is speaking for his client who a jury found contracted genital herpes from Reverend
Ralph D. West the Second after meeting off Facebook, as seen here on
the church without Wall's website, he's listed as the Eldridge Campus minister, so
he met her on Facebook. Chats are up and then are the Holy Spirit?
I guess so the things that she come girl, if she got no
we look at for cases like these are essentially four things. If the defendant
infected and how can we prove it? Did he know he was infected?
And you know, how do we prove and do we have evidence of that?
Not only does Murphy say they were able to prove those facts, but
also that Weslyede when asked about having her So, how do you prove that
you have it to a jury? Medical records? I would assume, I
would assume, yeah, it's got Well, I'm wondering that to your points
or did they go through his medicine, kept it and find herbie Kream for
peace and that he gave it to his client after they had unprotected sex and
Mark wait his client, I think he was talking about that. I think
that was lawyer. Yeah, Art of twenty eighteen. She got an outperat
two or three days later, went in and got tested and you know from
there able you know, through the medical records, able to identify that he
was the source of it, in part because she hadn't been with anybody else
she had had a prior negative test. Murphy says subsequent conversation supported the claims.
When she asks you know where did this come from, his response was
his son's mother. He adds there were also emails between West and his client
where she accuses him of knowing he had it, of giving it to her,
you know, and there's other allegations about not caring about me, that
kind of thing. The response, Murphy says, was telling he never once
denied that he had it or that he knew he had it. West declined
to comment. Murphy says his client does feel a sense of relief and vindication,
but she's got two point four or five million dollars US and enough medicine
to keep it at bay. I would say herpyes for that. You may
have it. You may not know how what I what do you mean?
Well, you've had sex? Sorry? Yeah, but it's not like I
go back in the day. Yeah. I know who my partners were though,
and who they do. Yeah, I know who they were with and
weren't with. I mean you're doing Yeah, how does that text conversation go
with me? First of all, did you you kind of lead into it?
You're like, hey, I yolo, I think her. I think
any chick that is getting into especially let's say you were married and you're divorced
and now you're getting back in the dating scene and so you're going on apps
and stuff. You just keep that news story on your on your phone and
showed it to the guy before you start. Go Hey, just so you
know, it could be two points I mean worth a two point four buddy,
that's crazy that you know what? He deserves it he knew he had
it. Yeah, he didn't do the precautionary measures. He deserves to have
to pay that money. Now, I did know somebody who Stephanie wants to
strip from everybody. Yes she does. She likes everybody to be tested before
smart moves. It is a smart move or you get paid apparently. But
yeah, this is I I knew somebody who was and it was a woman
who stopped as they were things started to get hot and heavy, and uh,
this guy could tell a wonderful story. And he goes, she said,
I just want you to know I have herpes. I don't you know,
blah blah, And he's like, uh, Yeah, it was over
after that. Yep, that's where boners go to die. Yeah, but
they got madison. They got medisine for it though, right, I mean
if you if you're in medicine, you can't catch it. Right, But
isn't it also only contagious when it's it's gonna be a flowing up good Yeah,
dormant, you're okay, but you're you know, you're taking that chance.
So it's like STD roulette, Russian roulette. I guess, Yeah,
you guy got a loaded gun wanted to could be it could be that.
That's crazy. I just I was shocked when I saw that, because I
go two, that's that's insane over an STD. But you knowingly did give
it to somebody, and their lives are altered, and then from now on
they should probably if they're going to do the right thing, say hey,
anyway, this guy's a pastor having sex? Is this what we're gonna talk
about? That was the pastor having sex is an odd thing? And pastors
have sex. No, I know, but this don't. But he's well,
he's a reverend, he's divorced. He probably should be in the eyes
of the Lord. Usually, you know, those sex out of wedlock.
Don't get me started on that one. What does this open up other things
too? Now do you get other people coming out and look at it?
I mean, how many people in Charlie's she'd have sex with them knowing he
had HIV? Aggie Johnson too, Oh yeah, yeah, Magic Johnson?
Who coming out of the woodworks now? Because I don't know, I don't
know, and I don't know what the statute of limitations are on those cases
because they're a number of years old. But it does make you wonder if
some other him and says, hey, I had sex with him too,
and he didn't say anything to me. And I just went and gotten tested
because I saw it on the news and I have it. He's clearly the
reason why. And yeah, you gotta test that Herb though, make sure
it's legit, Reverend her It couldn't be just money, pastor having two point
four million. I just didn't really think about it. Let's go. I
guess so those heavy are, But how about, like, could you imagine
your parents see this, Your family sees it, you know, Christmas comes
along, and if I'm in your family, I'm having it on my phone
and just hitting it at the most inopportune time at dinner. It's going to
kill her dating on Facebook. All of a sudden, you hear in Houston,
reverend order to pay two point four or five million past the turkey please.
That would be terrible, Mark. That's not nice to be terrible.
But it kills her dating life now too, Yes, it does. That's
what I mean. She she has to tell everybody from that that point on.
Yeah, you're right, so maybe the two point five five million is.
And it just seemed I was like, whoa, I don't know,
how are you feeling down there? You know it's early, it's you know,
it's not time to play yet. All right, I'm good. Ma
gets very quiet before games, doesn't he gets very like, you know,
I should talk. I'm still very upset about last week. I told you,
I know, but I don't usually hold rudgers this long and about a
loss. I have held this one all week like it's bad. Yeah,
that was an ugly loss though it was really Yeah, but you know what
I mean, Like, in a turning point of your season, the game,
you need to make a statement, and you made a statement that you
suck is what you did? You know? McCarthy came out and basically said,
hey, I suck as an offensive coordinator. I should have never got
rid of Kellen Moore. And here we are. Oh boy, Yeah,
what are they playing to San Diego? Sorry? No, Los Angeles Chargers?
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He said, the way Blue Usha but those Georgiss to shame that said
that's a lo. She was thirteen when she wrote the sup Yeah, there's
If you never have anything to watch, get bored, go to that flis
watch Miss Americana. You might have tipped aspect on who she is and what
she's about. No, I'm very impressed by this. Yeah, and I
don't hate her music so but I didn't know she was thirteen much. This
is the Tim mcgross song earlier, although I'm disappointed because I had not seen
the opening of Monday Night Football. Oh yeah, that was cool. And
I didn't see that Chris Stapleton cover amazing Yeah in the air tonight. Yeah.
Oh man. I thought Phil Collins did a great job of that song.
It's played everywhere. Yeah, to hear Chris Stapleton so much better not
take anything away from Collins a cover. It was weez who used always say
this on the radio. Every band should do a cover, and I would
put a caveat on that. Do a cover in your own style. Don't
be Weezer doing Toto, so I can't hear. I hate that son exactly.
I hate nothing. But when Metallica covers Bob Seeger, I dig that
when Guns N' Roses, does you know Paul McCartney and Wings Live, I
thought, I love that, and I love a good cover that's got like
authenticity, that's authentically the band. Even even harrow Smith covering the Beatles.
Yeah, oh yeah, because you think of this is narrow. I think
harrow Smith song one hundred percent. I agree with I didn't know we thought
that, but I agree one hundred percent of Yeah. He always said like
every band should do a cover and and I I know what he's saying,
but I would even just go as yourself. Don't try to do it in
a karaoke. I didn't like the Weezer ship. I thought it was I
didn't it was identical. That's what I'm saying. Give me something that tells
me it's you right, you know? Oh my god, what happened?
Fumble? Oh god, damn. I might as well stand in the air.
I'm sorry. We're watching the Monday night game and Matt reeche bTB listen
go out there, and uh, I'm a shot. Oh I was gonna
say something wait wait, wait, oh down, okay man. If they
didn't have this the replay back of the day, that would have been a
fumble. Well they called it a fumble. They call it that in the
field. Oh they did. Okay, all right, good wells. You're
relieved and all of a sudden, welcome to being a Cowboys fan. The
uh. So, I'm talking to a friend of mine who I guess their
mom was coming in to watch. The kids are older now, they're like
more. I think the youngest is middle school. Everybody else's high school,
almost out of high school. But when the mom comes to watch the kids,
she always pre orders cleaning supplies to be delivered to the house first,
so as to say, like your house is, it's almost like you're in
trouble with your mom, And so mom's coming with her own cleaning supplies to
clean your house, which is someone insulting in a way. And then I
was thinking about it, and I go, I don't remember ever really getting
in trouble with my parents as an adult. I don't know how you do
it. But even now, like you know, like I got it.
My guys are in the early too. I don't know you've got how old
your son met my oldest twenty five twenty five? Do you ever have moments
where you still got to be Oh? The dad he living be for a
short period. I am about it eighteen months ago. Yeah, slob,
but he actually knows how to clean up after himself. My younger son,
he's nineteen, even worse because after the oldest moved out, than Joshua stayed
there for a little while. He was terrible. Gosh, clean up the
toilet, Jesus. Oh, you know. And I'm I'm very I'm ridiculous
about my kitchens, my bathrooms. They have to be spotless. Yeah,
So they hate living with me, so they move out as quick as they
can because I don't like, you know what I'm going. I don't know,
like, I try to be cool with my kids. And I got
one who's twenty one and he lives up here, and I took him to
see Bobby Kelly, the comedian over the weekend. We went to dinner,
yeah, and then we went over to see that show. And I mean,
I think of it. I forgot how I mean, Bobby's one of
my favorite comics. But he had me laughing so hard I couldn't even breathe.
And I think my kid loved it. And then I'm like, but
then there's all this other shit that goes on and it's like, how do
you walk this line of I want to say, you know, because I'm
talking to the other day and he's kind of getting himself upset. I go,
well, this is going good. If all you're gonna do is tell
me all the things that are going well, I'm gonna hang up the phone
right now. And I go, okay, well, then I think you
should probably hang up because yes, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm your
dad. I don't want you to look at the negative of shit. There's
a lot of good things going on here too, and if you focus on
all the shitty stuff, you're gonna keep getting shitty stuff as you are.
You are getting it because that's what you focus on. But I you know,
it's one of these things where I go, man, I don't want
to be yelling at a twenty one year old, but I have. I
have said, oh I think it's coming back, that's coming back. Oh
well, they look flat. No matter what I'm telling you right now,
I can tell you right now what this game is going to be. Like,
it's gonna be the he's out at the bar about this is a big
o' l right today, they're coming out fla Okay, so what happens like
the rest of the week. Does everything hurt more when they lose? Let's
say they lost last week, this this week, everything hurt, Everything hurt.
Yeah, do you have less tolerance with like no, you know,
I've got used a lot of people, but like you know, let's say
you got employees. Sometimes employees ask dumb questions. Yeah, they do dumb
things. Yeah, do you have less tolerance for that? A little bit?
But I'm a lot better than I used to be. Okay, Yeah,
he lost a lot of friends one year when he went to the Dallas
New England game in Dallas, I sure did. He went on and just
blasted everybody. Well, the Patriots fans were complete assholes at the end of
the game, complete assholes. And I may have said, I hope that
plane goes down. Those assholes are on You put this on Facebook? Yeah,
he called out some He called out some guy's girlfriend about her cheat you
yeah, oh my, you know I put it out there that she was
cheating. Was it true? Oh yeah? Are they still together? No?
Did it end because of that? I don't know, But that's not
my problem. Why fucking my cowboys? Who said? Did she say something
or he did she said something, she said yeah, and then he,
you know, is backing it up. And you know, I basically told
him, your girlfriend's fucking somebody else, just so you know, Oh yeah,
how did you know he was one? Not that time? See that's
a risky move. Yeah, that is what it is. And then a
risky move. That's why I don't argue with him. Well, here's the
thing. He knows you very well. I know I would never do that.
That's why that's right route for Dallas. I want him happy. When
we owned, when we owned the place together, I rooted for Dallas.
He would be a dickhead the next one. I'd like to see Dallas win
this one. Me too, I really would. It just makes everybody's life
a little easier. I mean, you saw Dak hold that ball for about
eight seconds. Come on, man, get rid of the ball. Yeah.
I think the other I think against Miami, Josh was getting rid of
the ball in about two seconds earlier. Yeah, get rid of the ball,
get out. It's amazing how I mean, that's the thing that I
can figure out. It's how you ref these games. How you can possibly
see everything that's happening. You know, we bitch about the refs all the
time, but they have split seconds to make these decisives. I mean,
it is so fast. Listen to Dallas radio other day and they were talking
about they put you in a position. What the umpires would do is they
take you out to a baseball field and they say, okay, make this
call, and they put you where they're at at second base, and you
got to split second to say was he safe? Was he out? And
ninety five percent of the calls were wrong, really normal human beings. Yeah,
that's how hard it is. It's very difficult. That's it's easy to
look at the replay. Sure that guy's grabbing his jersey and we're seeing it
from camera angles. We don't have some guys big ass block it, you
know what I mean. These are bohemoths out there. Those linemen are huge.
Oh boy, oh boy, this one's in at so far. Yeah,
this is one that's one place I would love to go to just to
see the stadium. It looks a me. It does look pretty cool.
Didn't you go there? I've been in LA and I was outside the stadium.
I don't want to go back to LA. Had no interest in it.
Where'd you go? See the food fighters. They were at the arena
next door. Oh I thought they were there. Okay, yeah, boy,
nice arena by next door, real nice. Yeah. Well it's early
in the game, mat that's why it's only seven nothing, that's twenty four
nothing. It's just I never felt like I would be a fan like that.
You know, as a kid, you'd be a little disappointed in the
Giants loss. Allright, no big deal. Last night. I would have
been so upset if the Bills lost that game, and yet at the same
time, I felt like they sort of did. Like I felt like they
lost. The teams win ship games, good teams, good way to win.
I lose Josh a ball that was I was like, how the hell
did it get in there? When they slow it down, you can see
where he had, but it was a quick lean. It was the touchdown,
and I'm going that that's incredible, that's amazing. All Right. I
know that the Monday night game is on and this is a big one for
Matt Reeves, so wrapp it up. Yeah, Joe, Dallas, go
Dallas, please go see Taylor Swift Airs tour on the recommendation of Mark check
Out, every everybody check out, telling people to check out Miss American on
Nutflix. Yeah, and do not root for Kevin's Patriots next week, although
I fear their defense. I'm I know you, I'm Bill Moran. We'll
see them on