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What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season two episode they see

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one of clips and dip hopefully your
favorite Clippers podcast, one of them you

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listen to also hopefully. I am
Chuck Mockler, joined by Will Updike and

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Adam Osland. We're going to talk
to Kawhi injury. We are going to

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talk about that. We're going to
talk about the Clippers issue against larger teams.

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Some of those larger teams happen to
be just some of the better teams

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in basketball. And then we're gonna
talk there was a poll sent out to

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Clipper season ticket holders about jersey retirements
and into it, So that's something we're

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going to discuss. But before we
get into all that, I mentioned them

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just now. They're fantastic co hosts, great people. Adam, Will,

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how you doing on this dry,
cold Los Angeles evening. I'm good.

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Surprised this is episode fifty one.
I thought that was last week since Will

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didn't want to call it five.
Oh yeah, this is fifty one part

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too. It's like Dune. It's
exactly like dude. I'm good. It's

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good to be odd with you guys
once again. Well are we doing I'm

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good. I'm good. Yeah,
I actually missed last night's game, So

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you guys are gonna have to break
it down for me, tell me what

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went wrong. So I'm excited to
hear about that. I think we all

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just are a little stunned, shocked, upset, crying, baffled by this

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recent by this recent kine is I
know I threw up. Yeah, yeah,

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when the injury report came out.
I also vomited on the public transit

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situation. I was in your guys
hair back. Yeah, man, I

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wish I simultaneously. Yeah, Kawhi
Leonard ruled out with a left abductor strain

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by the Clippers Tuesday, February thirteenth. Yeah, that is the information we

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have. We had no indication that
that was gonna happen. He has looked

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tired. I think that's fair to
say he's not tired, but he's been

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working really hard. Clippers have had
an absurd schedule. The abductor strain is

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not something that seems like cut and
dry injury time thing. We had some

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speculation from La Murray about it that
we'll get into, but yeah, I

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don't know, Adam, how are
you feeling? This kind of means we're

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gonna talk about the Warriors game,
we might as well kind of talk about

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it now. It really changes things
ahead of that game. But bigger picture,

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what's your scale of worry? I
have lit a candle for those of

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you on YouTube dot com slash at
Clippers podcast. You can see my candle

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is lit that nothing else crazy happens. Adam Oils, I'm not overly concerned

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at this point. I'm guessing this
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and quite frankly, when you're a
team that is only going to be defined

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by what happens in the postseason,
and we have evidence by that before because

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Kawhi Leonard won the All Star Game
MVP and then no one cared when they

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ended up losing to the Denver Nuggets
in the postseason in the bubble. So

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I feel like, especially for someone
like Kawhi Leonard, it's all about what

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happens in the postseason, and if
this gives him extra rest on other parts

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of his bodies that could be his
body that could be aching right now.

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Okay, as long as it's not
some long lingering issue going on. Last

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six games from him, he's still
averaging twenty five on fifty three percent,

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shooting fifty four percent from the outside. So as much as he has struggled

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or played down to a level we
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half months because he's been so god
teer, he still has been pretty damn

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good. So if he was playing
through it, he was able to still

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put up some good numbers and be
their best player against Minnesota last night.

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Yeah, Will where that just made
me feel much more calm. Where are

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you at? Mile mild concern?
I feel like I would be more concerned

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if it wasn't the last game before
the All Star break. It seems like

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timing wise makes sense, you know, get an extra couple of days of

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rest. Why not? I will
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what's going on with these clippers growings? We got some soft growings going

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on. Uh, gotta work on
that. And yeah, I'm not overall

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concerned. I mean, you know, just looking at the box score last

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night, two and three looked more
like one oh six point five. But

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you know, I'm not too concerned. Six. That's the first time I've

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ever heard someone refer to I got
it. Thank you, Thank you for

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explaining that. Man, I don't
know, I don't know. That caught

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me off guard. I went right
back to my alternate radio station up in

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norcaw growing up Quad what O six
point five? I was like, does

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Will know? I used to listen
to that all the time. He knows

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as much about cork Bos now he's
got the osseling. Yeah. So last

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game, like you mentioned, last
game before the All Star break, and

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also it is in away game.
Just stay home, Kawhi. Don't even

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make the forty minute flight up to
the Bay for this. I'm fine if

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he hanged, if he goes to
San Diego or whatever he does, Like,

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just hang man, we all know
you're part of the team. You've

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been great this year. You don't
got to be you don't got to be

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there. I'd be fine with him
staying home. We also didn't want Paul

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Georgia to play, but he ended
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So what they're two and two so
far this season without Kawhi and two

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of those games. The two losses
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home at Crypto against the Boston Celtics. Correct, who were the two wins

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they had in there without Kawhi?
Leonard let me look, I was trying

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to think of that earlier, because
this is why you have James Harden.

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This is why you added that firepower. In case one of two pine three

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or one oh six point five is
out, you have somebody to fill in

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some of the scoring load and help
them out. And it's I mean,

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going five hundred without the claw is
successful. They were able to pull it

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off the entire twenty one to twenty
two season, small sample size, thank

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goodness, so far this season.
This will just be again his fifth game

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miss Tomorrow Night on the year.
But two of those games were extremely lopsided

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losses by the Clippers. Those two
losses they had without Kawhi were a little

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bit alarming, and you could just
see the defensive impact without him and how

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much he was lacking. Here are
the wins that we have without Kawhi.

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We beat the Hornets and we beat
the Grizzlies. Those were the two statement

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wins without Kawhi Leonard, and the
other two games we lost by thirty seven

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points in the Celtics and nineteen to
the Thunder. We're not We're playing a

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team in between those four Tomorrow Night. I think the Warriors are a little

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in between those two. But I
mean, of course, like I'm sure

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people are wondering, is there gonna
be more information? No followed this team

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long enough. It sucks. We
we just gotta wait until maybe the pregame

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presser tomorrow night from Tylu. But
I don't think we're not going to be

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getting any concrete information. So I'm
just hoping people don't get their hopes up

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for that, which seems to happen
every time. What did a law Murray

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say or shed light on on Twitter? Loss said, I'm not sharing the

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rundown. That's privileged information. Share
the cat. The cat will be back.

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Trust me, those people, The
cat will be back. Las said.

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The fact that Kawhi Leonard has already
ruled out not even a questionable tag,

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suggests that it would be surprising for
him to play in the All Star

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Game. That injury takes several days
to get over, and I think he

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could be questionable at best for the
OKC Memphis back to back, which is

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what the Clippers come home to,
which is kind of a pain in the

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ass. Yeah, I hope.
I mean timing wise, if you're looking

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for a bright spot, it's good
that it happens now. Is they have

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the All Star break for him to
rest up. Not just him, Paul

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George beats a Zubots. The timing
probably couldn't be better for this Clippers team

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right now, But you don't want
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You still want to get that victory
and do what you can against the Golden

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State Warriors tomorrow, who are playing
much better. Yeah, the Warriors look

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a little terrifying right now. Uh, it's not. They're good. Not

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the right time to be playing the
Warriors without Kawhi Leonard For the Clippers,

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they've won five in a row.
They're shooting forty two percent from three on

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thirty five attempts from three per game
in last stretch, top five, and

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assists per game in the league right
now over these last five games. And

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here's one that's curious, ninety six
field goals attempted per game, the most

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in the league over the last five
games. Clippers are dead last in the

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league over the last five games with
eighty two. Uh, Will, how

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do you feel about this matchup sans
Kawhi Man, this is gonna be a

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difficult one, but you really I
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into the All Star Break on the
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So yeah, I don't know if
this is going to be a difficult

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one. This is going to be
a difficult one. Who do we think?

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So Amir starting right, I would
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a mere Coffee. He started with
Paul George was out. I'm trying to

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think though, in the four games
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Mir start all those games? I
don't know if he did, but it

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would it would make the most most
sense. Let's just assume a Mire Coffee

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is starting. He's playing fantastic basketball
right now. I wish he got more

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shots up yesterday against Minnesota, did
a lot of his damage and inconsequential time

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late in that ball game. But
Amir has been on. He's been the

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hottest player on the team, even
hotter than Kawhi over the last month.

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Now, obviously the volume isn't there, but he's been fantastic with his shooting

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and just having the confidence to put
them up from the outside. Something I'm

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looking for more from Terrence man uh
when Yeah, we're gonna need Terrence to

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play a little bit better in this
one. I mean obviously with Kawhi being

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out, but people were a little
he he looks tired though, too.

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We said this on I said this
on Twitter on the at the Clippers bot

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account, Like, I think when
you think about fatigue, your head kind

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of goes like the Stars, right, you go to two and three and

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Harden and Zoo. I mean,
Amir and Terrence look tired too. They're

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having to work, They're working really
hard, They're playing really well. It's

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very hard to play the best bath
team basketball you've ever played for an entire

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season for the first time kind of
in your career. So those guys are

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tired too, Like, But yeah, I think, I think, and

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it was a mirror all four of
those games that that Kawhi was out.

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So it ain't broke. Don't fix
it, I guess. But who's getting

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the steph assignment? I assume it's
going to be Terrence Man and they'll switch

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with him in a mere coffee some
But yeah, in PG thirteen, they

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were switching everything early on in the
game against Minnesota yesterday and throughout it.

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But this Golden State Warriors team just
blew out the Jazz on the road,

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marketing and playing a team that didn't
have, you know, a substantial sell

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off to the point where they traded
marketing in or calling Sexton or anybody like

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that. So you would have thought, oh, they're kind of keeping the

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group together. They're making run at
the play in and they got smoked by

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the Warriors last night once nine to
one seven. And Golden State finally has

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taken the governor off of Jonathan Kaminga. That's been the big revelation for them.

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They're starting Draymon at center and they
have Jonathan Kaminga next to him with

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Wiggins, Steph and Klay Thompson,
who's kind of assuming a new role now

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not playing in some fourth quarters.
He's feeling his basketball mortality or at least

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having to turn into more of a
role player than the star he used to

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be. So this is a team
that it's kind of like the pieces are

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starting to come together. They're fitting
very well. That game against the Phoenix

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Suns had legs. I think that's
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They're just really in tune at the
moment. Yeah. I was looking

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at just Steph's numbers specifically over the
stretch, He's taken thirteen threes a game

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and he's hitting them at a cool
fifty. Yeah, he's taken more threes

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than ever, which is kind of
saying something for the best shooter in all

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time, and it's working. I
mean that shot that he hit against Phoenix.

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When people criticize Steph Curry all the
time for not hitting shots at the

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end of games, who do you
want the ball? I want igodala that

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type of stuff. Steph has had
some of the I think he has the

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best clutch numbers in the game this
season. During clutch time, it's Steph

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Curry by a wide margin. So
they are surging at the moment the Clippers

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are going to have their hands full. Well, do you think without Kawhi

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will see small ball lineup? I
mean, we've just been leaning into them

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so much. I feel like it
would make sense. Maybe you go,

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I don't know, like maybe you
mix it up though, and do try

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to take advantage of the size against
a smaller team. I mean I feel

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like that, especially with like how
the offense has kind of looked as of

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late. But I feel like we
just keep saying the same thing. But

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it's like, you know, maybe
get maybe get the big men going a

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little bit, Maybe get some pick
and roll going, get some paint touches,

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Like, maybe let's do more than
like dribble out most of a shot

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clock and get an Isico possession.
I think that'd be pretty cool. You'd

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be on board with that. The
Warriors have been going small. They have

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this lineup of Steph Podzimski, who
they really like. Wiggins. He's killed

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the Clippers before, hasn't he?
I think? So they're what they're two

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and one, I guess them.
They had the big twenty two point come

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back with the Paul George game over
Clay, but they lost up in San

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Francisco where it'll be tomorrow. So
they won two games against them at home,

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and this is what the final game
of the four and the PACTV Chuck.

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Yeah, we played three like super
close to each other. Mm hmm.

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I mean Pods that had thirteen and
Pods had thirteen and eight the first

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time we played. Yeah, that
I think that was the game I was

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thinking of. Their loss to them
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Clippers started to activate Kawhi Leonard going
into terminator mode where they played Sacramento on

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the front end, and then that
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They lost to Golden State. Looked
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not a lot to take out of
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a completely different animal. Yeah,
it's kind of like the running into a

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buzzsaw just a little bit before the
All Star break, which I don't feel

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super good about. It does make
picking of the player of the game a

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little bit easier. The Kawhi Leonard
player of the game. Oh, Adam,

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we don't know if you were there
for this. Someone on YouTube had

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the great idea that since we can't
pick Kawhi Leonard as player of the game,

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the award should be called the Kawhi
Leonard Player of the Game Award so

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he can still be No, it's
perfect. Our listeners are brilliant, smart

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people. I've always said everyone who
listens to the podcast is very smart.

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For the most part, Adam,
who is your Clippers player of the game

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against the Warriors, Kawhi Leonard?
Excuse me? Who is your Clippers Kawhi

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Leonard player of the game. Pick
I'm gonna go with the guy criticized earlier.

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It wasn't Steph Curry. It was
Terrence Mann, who just I think

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he got up three shots against Minnesota. He simply hasn't been aggressive enough.

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As well as he is shooting the
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size right now. In twenty twenty
four, when he turned it around from

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the outside, I need to see
him put him up now. He's still

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enough of a threat that Rudy Gobert
in that game yesterday closed out on a

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three pointer with him. He took
him off the dribble and went to the

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basket and got the layup. That
was his only made shot. But Terrence

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Man has to be more aggressive right
now. If you're gonna be the starting

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lineup next to two, one,
three, you do have to take advantage

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of the opportunities that you get to
maintain being that thread out there on the

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court, so you make life easier
on everyone else. So without Kauai in

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this one, I want to see
him get up ten shots. I do.

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I want to see Terrence Man play
with Forest, get downhill. It

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feels like it's still just a down
off year for him right now. It

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is. As much as he has
shot the ball better from the outside in

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twenty twenty four, we still haven't
had enough of those signature Terrence Man games.

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He was great against Boston in that
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but there haven't been enough games where
he's made his mark and you really

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felt his presence. Now, he
doesn't hurt you most of the time either,

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and that's the good thing about him. But I just I want the

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Golden State Warriors have to deal with
the impact of Terrence Man playing with confidence

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because when they have had comebacks over
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victories, his fingerprints were all over
those. He would always make an impact,

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especially in second halves of ball games, just being that spark out there.

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I need that from Terrence Man tomorrow. Adam needs it. Have we

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considered that PJ. Tucker is maybe
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have it when he gets his shot
called he's rogue, Yeah, maybe yeah,

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he's rogue. Yeah. Terrence being
really good is gonna We're gonna need

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him to crack this Warriors defense,
who their offense has been playing great.

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Their defense has one hundred and four
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all aside from him having to guard
Steph Curry and doing a good job there.

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But I also need his offense in
this game, is what I'm saying.

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Yeah, will you're Kawhi Leonard player
of the game pick for Clippers rous

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Warriors. I'm going with Norm.
I know that we're only like two games

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removed from an eighteen point performance in
that loss to the Pelicans, but I'm

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ready for I'm ready for some nuclear
Norm, right. I'm ready for him

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to kind of go off. And
I think that think that could just be

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kind of a spark that we kind
of a spark that we need to get

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over this team because he can get
hot. Our defensive penalty doesn't stopping himself.

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He can get hot. Score some
points. Score some points, boys,

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Chuck, I'm gonna go someone who
we're gonna talk about in the next

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segment who got criticized a little bit
on Twitter with some fair points when it

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comes to playing teams uh with size. I know that's not the Warriors,

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But I'll tell you who's really gonna
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James Hard. We need James Harden
to be aggressive with the ball.

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We need to have him make it. He's usually made the right read.

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Turnovers haven't been bad, but when
they come, they kind of it's in

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bundant, you know it's it's in
multiple in a row, is what it

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feels like. So James Hard,
give us a triple double? Very doable.

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We need it against this version of
the Warriors. Please give us,

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I will say please. Long history
of going up against the Golden Sea Steph

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Curry also a very weird aside.
This was pointed out by a Twitter user

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at selene Ft. Third season in
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on Valentine's Day? Is that right? It is no love lost. They

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should to keep doing that and into
it just cause why not. Why not

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be the only team that has a
weird Valentine series like once a year something.

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Do it. Who's the Clippers record
in those Valentine's Day matchups? I

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don't know off the top of my
head. You gotta go to Basketball Reference,

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buddy, stat muse, buddy,
you better get to basketball records like

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a pioneer Basketball Reference take your child. Yeah it's the dust bowl. I

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was a stat I was the guy. I was the stat guy, and

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then Basketball Reference tickard jobs. All
right, we're getting off the rails.

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We got to talk about we gotta
fill Will in on what happened against a

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very large Timberwolves team last night.
It's indicative of some other issues maybe the

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Clippers have. We're gonna talk about
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in three two one, Hey, welcome

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back in to Clips and Dip.
We decided collectively the sky isn't falling after

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Kawhi Leonard is going to be out
to the last game before the All Star

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break. But we're coming off the
heels of kind of a recurring theme.

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I know, I know a lot
of fans out there are worried about it.

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So we're gonna talk about it.
It's the Clippers verst size and I,

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as I stated, I was unfortunately
unable to catch this game. So

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what wait, where are you guys
at? Tell me what went wrong?

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Well? They were up by fourth
a half after a fast and furious run

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to end the second quarter. Knock
down a couple of three pointers. James

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Harden hits a buzzer beater. Then
they start the third quarter and the t

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Wolves going in at o run and
they had taken I think there's just six

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free throws in the first half,
and they took thirteen in the third quarter

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alone. Anthony Edwards had just six
points in the first half, and I

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think he had thirteen points in the
third quarter alone. We're numerology stuff going

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on, but the game kuinky dicky. They unraveled at the end of that

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third quarter. And I'm not putting
it on one guy, but it was

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a rough stint from Russell Westbrook.
It was a rough stint in the game

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from Terrence Man offensively, just not
being aggressive enough. And at the end

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of that third they lose that quarter
by twenty one points. They lose the

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game by twenty one points. They
got outscored forty to nineteen in the third

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quarter. That was the game right
there. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone.

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I'm pointing figures of me. It
was on me. Guys, start

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with yourself. But I some of
those miss layups, Okay, he missed

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two layups and a dunk in the
span of I don't know, four possessions

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and it turned. It turned into
seven points going the other way. And

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it's just it's been happening more and
more frequently, especially against good teams with

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size, which we'll talk more about
here. I appreciate the aggressiveness and trying

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to go at Rudy Gobert. It
wasn't happening. I thought he had a

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really good stint in the first half. But in that third quarter, the

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Clippers they let go of the rope
a little bit. He took five frees

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he should never be taking. They
dared himze, they dared they was funneling

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to Russ on the perimeter, and
that's a win. Look, I love

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good chaos. Russ. His first
two possessions were good chaos. He got

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to the rim and he you know, he made a layup and he got

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fouled, and then it was like, dude, five threes. It's like

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fuck, Like, that's what a
free safety does. With a team like

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Minnesota, who defends so well already
that if they can just play free safety,

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it's like, sure, take the
threes, Russ, Well, gladly,

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let you take five threes. I
didn't lose this the game, but

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it doesn't. It didn't help.
So yeah, I mean it's it's so

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easy to game plan, you know, like you he gets all he gets

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a ton of space to shoot the
to shoot open threes, and then I

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just feel like even when he's going
into the basket, it's like, don't

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get in front of him, don't
risk a foul, just be ready,

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just be ready to grab the defensive
board and take it to the other end,

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like he's gonna miss, don't even
miss. My issue is if you're

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gonna go small, which they did, and that's how they ended the first

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half, and they kind of caught
the Timberwolves by surprise. They went small

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at work. It can work in
spurts. It has in the past against

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Rudy Gobert. Guess what, guys, this is not the Utah Jazz from

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twenty twenty one. They have all
these great perimeter defenders. I've talked about

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it before the first matchup against the
Timberwolves. They have been the number one

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ray of defense from pretty much the
first week of the season on. They

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have consistently been great on that end. They have the best personnel to guard

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the Clippers that I have seen of
any team in the two pin to three

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era they do outside of what they
bring with Rudy Gobert to support that,

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and the Clippers are going small in
the third again, it's like, well,

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if you're gonna go small, why
not do it. If you're gonna

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call it five out, all five
guys need to be able to shoot right

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real five out. Russell Westbrook is
not a shooter. He's also not finishing

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at the rim, So what exactly
is he doing to benefit them in this

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five out lineup to try to spread
out that tough defense? And look,

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I love Russ, but for net
chaotic, highly volatile ball doesn't always work

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against great teams with great defenses,
and especially in the postseason in a seven

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game series like I don't think it's
a good matchup for us at all.

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But they've been playing him more and
trying to make it work with two to

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three and James Harden and overall it
has worked much better the last couple of

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months. But when you go against
big teams like this and you're trying to

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go five out and spread them out, what is the role with Russ?

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Oh, he's a rebounder, he
pushes the pace. I don't see it.

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I don't see how it's gonna be
effective against a defense that good right

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in the Minnesota Wolves. I'm curious
your guys' thoughts on this because you know,

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once again recurrent thing. Not to
dump on Russ. He does some

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great stuff. No, but when
we have games like this versus like a

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really good Russ performance, like which
one do you think lineup wise TYLERU is

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taking more data from? Because I
I think, like we know, Tyler

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is a sample sized guy, right, like which one of these are are

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making it into his journal and which
ones are? Like you know why journal

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makes me not that's exactly what it
is. I don't know why you keep

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I do. But it's just funny
to think of when I hear think about

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Tyler riding in a journal, it's
like, anyway, I think he takes

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the good ones, and it's he's
a point guard guy, like this isn't

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this is? Do you think he's
learning nothing from these? When it's it's

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not saying he's learning nothing from these
when it's a bad stretch. That's that's

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a bit of a jump there.
I think the minutes restriction on Zoo makes

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things way harder than Tyler's letting on
and again I don't mean that in like

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a goddamn for those of you listening, Will has made my name smarter than

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Tyler, which I'm not. But
I just it's just kind of weird right

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now. Right you got the Zoo
thing, and I'm not putting it all

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on that, but I think he
takes the good things. He's a point

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guard guy. Like it doesn't It
wouldn't surprise me if if that, you

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know what I mean. Like,
part of the problem was not only was

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he on a minute's restriction, Zuo
just hasn't looked like himself yet. He

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picked up his fourth foul I think
early in the third quarter, and that's

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when he said, okay, if
it we're going small. You know why,

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because Mason Plumbley gave them nothing in
the first half. Mason Plumbley has

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to play much better than he has
since coming back from injury against the bigger

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teams, which is why you have
him. He has to be more effective

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out there. I don't know what's
going on with him, if he's still

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working himself back into his own rhythm, if he's still getting back in shape.

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Because that was a serious knee injury, we were concerned that, hey,

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he could be out for the season. It looked bad, it was

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scary, but he just had nothing
for him in the first half. And

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I mean he had a turnover I
think on his first possession. Yeah,

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point Plumb, Like we're not just
talking about doing the things that big men

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do. He's playing outside of himself, turning the basketball over, making terrible

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decisions. I've been a little bit
like, I love big Plumb as much

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as anyone. You know that,
but I've been a little bit surprised of

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late gonna speed right past that.
So I'm curious about that too. Like

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Todd, like Tys only saw him
in garbage time, seems like he's been

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the one who's the odd man out
rotation. He got in late in that

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third when things completely went to hell. He was on the court, I

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believe when Russ was trying to go
downhill. It takes a zoom and its

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restriction and plumbing to be playing really
bad that day, and that's when Daniel

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Tys gets in the game. We're
talking about something like a thirty five to

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eleven run from the end of the
third into the fourth by Minnesota. I

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mean forty to nineteen's already crazy.
That was the whole twelve minutes right there.

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00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,799
Yeah, the Tys thing is interesting. There's a contingent of people who

406
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,480
want the Clippers, and again,
Will You've talked about this every year.

407
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:03,720
The Clippers have two centers, it
doesn't matter. People want them to play

408
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,000
together. People want ty Lu to
try Daniel Tye and a Vitza Zubats out

409
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:17,319
there together, or like, let's
not, let's not, it's not guys,

410
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,559
guys, okay, let me let
me point this out offensive. They

411
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,559
tried PJ. Tucker next to a
Vitza Zubats. I know it was ineffective,

412
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,519
but you tried it. Sure,
the small ball was ineffective. It's

413
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:32,799
it's not gonna work for a sustained
period of time because it just takes the

414
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,319
legs out of Kawhi and Paul George
when they have to play defense. When

415
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:38,759
Kawhi is having a guard Rudy Gobert
and getting dunked on like that, that

416
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:42,799
has an effect on the other end
eventually. That's why I'm saying it's a

417
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:48,240
little bit on the gimmicky side to
play small against a team this big.

418
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,519
You might have to find some other
solution, That's all I'm saying. And

419
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:55,359
the only way to find it is
to actually try some things out there.

420
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:59,000
Daniel Tys is shooting forty percent from
three. I know it's on like forty

421
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:03,799
shots from the outside, it's not. It's not a very nigehball funnel into

422
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:08,079
Tyson now on the perimeter. No, but I'm saying, if he's wide

423
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:12,319
open and still making those three pointers
as he has been with teams playing off

424
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:17,119
of him, you can hurt teams
that way until they stop it, or

425
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,039
until he starts going cold from three. How about we see what a bigger

426
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:23,720
sample size could actually look like with
him out there. I just looked about

427
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:29,240
Russie everything. It's twenty eight percent. Sorry, and you're you're not wrong,

428
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,759
but I didn't realize. I just
don't know like that, the the

429
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:41,640
Tyson and Plumbly thing, or the
Tyson zoo, or the whatever combination of

430
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:48,640
the two of the three centers we
have playing together. I'm saying it's unlikely

431
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,759
to work. Also, what has
been happening is unlikely to work. So

432
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,559
why don't we try this other thing
we haven't even gone to yet? Again,

433
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:03,559
they tried PJ next to Zoosy.
When is PJ coming back in March?

434
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,359
Fuck? Hey, hey, hey, cheers, so that man maybe

435
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:14,119
tomorrow against Draymond. I don't know, it's a good call. Law Murray

436
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,400
brought up an interesting thing kind of
when asked on This is the Law Murray

437
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,079
episode when asked how Clippers can improve
against a team like the Wolves, and

438
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:25,279
I mentioned that the Timberwolves give you
the mid range, but the Clippers,

439
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:29,599
in Law's words, in this game, they didn't run around or move,

440
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,079
so it makes the game a little
bit harder than on them than maybe it

441
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,200
could be or something like that.
Kawhi's Bill Adam, you and I talked

442
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,279
about this post game on five seventy. Kawhi is built to beat the Timberwolves.

443
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,680
His offense is perfect for this,
right, Like it's it's right there

444
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,759
in that mid range. You know
they're giving those spots. But I'm like,

445
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,519
you're pointing at him about defensively,
like how he's getting worn down in

446
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,400
these lineups, And that's one of
those things that has to be has to

447
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,640
be considered. Just because he can
do it on both ends of the floor,

448
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,160
it doesn't mean that he should.
And like it's different. Obviously in

449
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,279
the playoffs that's a completely different beats, but in the regular season, that's

450
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,880
It's just a lot to ask of
your stars, especially in a in a

451
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,799
season where you're already getting the best
production out of them that you've gotten maybe

452
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,519
in the entire two whenever. Yeah, and well, and I mean that's

453
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:22,559
part of it, right, like
you're getting because of the availability and and

454
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,359
just how they've approached the season this
year. But yeah, I like your

455
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,559
point about how it's too taxing for
those guys and those are that needs to

456
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:35,440
be the biggest goal is preserving both
of those guys for the playoffs. I'm

457
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,480
even fine, Like you know,
we've been talking about seeding, and obviously

458
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:44,240
we want to stay top three,
but like those guys, those guys' health

459
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,200
and optimum performance is like first,
second and third for me, healthy three

460
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,599
seed over limping into the playoffs of
course, I mean anytime, like at

461
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:58,400
any time, especially in the West
right now, because I don't think there's

462
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:01,880
that big of a difference. It's
it's matchup dependent. But between some of

463
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,559
those teams that you could be seeing
in the first round anyways, there are

464
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,240
some If Golden State or the Lakers
get in there and you're playing one of

465
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:13,359
them, that's a really tough opponent
in the first round. If it's the

466
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:16,960
Pelicans, if it's the Sacramento Kings. There there's no easy out going on

467
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,920
the West. And I don't think
there's as much of a difference. I

468
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,200
know there's four teams that have separated
themselves, but I'm not sure there's as

469
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:30,079
much of a difference as there is
record wise talent wise, because the Phoenix

470
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:37,519
Suns are what currently fifth round if
the playoffs started tomorrow, that's one of

471
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:45,079
the most talented teams on paper in
the league. Their record is injury influenced

472
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:49,079
in not building up chemistry yet with
Bradley Beal, but lately they're much better

473
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,920
than that. So, as Will
said on Your Guys last show on the

474
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,200
Live, like, you're not playing
the record, you're playing the team now

475
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:02,160
what they look like now with the
personnel they have now available. Yeah,

476
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,160
which is funny because we were just
talking about the exact same thing with the

477
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,599
Warriors who were playing tomorrow, Like
we're not playing the last in the pack

478
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:15,800
day Warriors or whatever it is.
Bill Parcells was wrong. You are who

479
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,320
your record says you are. I'm
sorry, there's no context to that.

480
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaking on the mid range thing,
I picked Harden to be the player of

481
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,559
the game. He's getting put in
the mid range and it's kind of helping

482
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:34,920
defenses. He's shooting thirty four percent
on driving floaters and he's shooting thirty eight

483
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,599
percent on pull ups within the perimeter. So like hardened in the mid range.

484
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,519
We've we asked him to do the
catch and shoot thing. He did

485
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:46,519
it. We love it, wonderful
results. We gotta hope these shots start

486
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:50,880
falling because that little lob, the
thing that looks like a lob to zoo,

487
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,960
but it's really a floater, Like
that's not really going in right now,

488
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,159
you know what I mean, Like
the deceleration is there. He's one

489
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:00,360
of the best guys. A's stopping
and you know, on a diamond things

490
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,320
like that. But the shot has
to start following because if he gets going

491
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,039
in the mid range, I feel
infinitely better than if he's not. Against

492
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:15,960
the team specifically like the Timberwolves,
and even though they're giving you the mid

493
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:21,320
range, it's like, well okay, but it's still Jade McDaniel's guarding you

494
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,360
in the mid range. They're not
giving it to you. They're just all

495
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,760
that means is go Bear is in
drop like he's not gonna come help and

496
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,039
he doesn't need to because they have
really good defenders already. Yeah, Jane

497
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:37,440
McDaniel's Federal Way legend. This is
the point that you were making earlier in

498
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,719
the show, Chuck, I think
right off the top. But it's not

499
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,280
just that you're losing to a team
with size. You're losing to one of

500
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,519
the best teams in the NBA that
happens to be big. Now, maybe

501
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:52,960
there's some correlation there too, because
I don't know size matters right now in

502
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:59,400
the NBA are starting to go back
that direction. But the Timberwolves are just

503
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,760
really damn good. They've been the
best defense all season long, and they

504
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:08,000
wrecked the Clippers yesterday, who understandably, Yes, they weren't completely sharp.

505
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:12,480
They didn't have Big Zoo going thirty
minutes, and they didn't have a fresh

506
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,960
Paul George Kawhi Leonard, But that's
what you deal with with a lot of

507
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,639
squads right now at this time of
the year. It's not just the Clippers

508
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:21,440
waiting for the All Star break to
get right. It's a lot of teams.

509
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,639
Yeah, we had some people on
Twitter. We just kind of asked

510
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,760
people how they were feeling. We
had a couple size takes will what do

511
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,400
you think of Uh, there were
some rational takes, I would say,

512
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,039
Uh, for the most part.
On here drift to to music said,

513
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:42,159
I feel the same as I ever
did, even prior to the hardened trade,

514
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,360
Clippers need size. I will stand
on that hill until it's addressed.

515
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,960
First time I ever heard stand on
that hill as a person to die.

516
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:58,000
He's not die, he's just chilling
die. He's looking down at the dead

517
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:05,280
bodies of people who doubt his philosophy. Out of that before the heart trip,

518
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,400
Like what more size did you want
when with like Roco and Batom and

519
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,039
stuff on the team, Like how
much bigger could we have really gotten?

520
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,920
You want the double? You want
to do the double centers at one time?

521
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Uh? I Look, it's an
issue. I think they're built to

522
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,800
like to be good in small ball
lineups. They like, you know,

523
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:36,480
certainly on paper, the personnel and
everything makes sense. And I don't know,

524
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,719
like I'm still you know, you
know, right, Like we've seen

525
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,880
this only obviously in the regular season, and I do trust that it's something

526
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,119
that we'll be able to manipulate a
little bit more in a seven game series.

527
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,159
But it's it's kind of like we
were talking about before. Uh,

528
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:57,280
for the most part, these offenses
of these bigger teams really struggles like that,

529
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,360
you know, they already kind of
struggle and what they've been able to,

530
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,480
uh certainly stymy the Clippy Clippers so
far in the regular season. I

531
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,400
don't know that you would hold out
on that for a seven game series.

532
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:13,480
And if the Clippers are getting stops
of their own onto an already like poor

533
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:21,159
offense, I mean, like mediocre, Like I'm still liking that battle.

534
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,079
I I agree it would be nice
to have an extra wing. I'm surprised

535
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:29,960
we we we missed out on that
young which is another great pickup by the

536
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,159
Suns, that that would have been
nice getting getting another wing or something in

537
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:37,639
there. But like we have three
bigs uh occurring, Adam, we should

538
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:44,760
play two of them together. We're
just a little limited realistically what we can

539
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,920
realistically do. And I think we
were all on the same page of like

540
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:51,400
even at the trade deadline, like
how much of this rotation are you willing

541
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,960
to give up to get the guy? And like what you know, who

542
00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:00,679
is ultimately that guy that really vaults
you over that you would be like now

543
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:05,159
trade now. The size of this
team is perfect. The personnel is perfect.

544
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,480
Everything about this team is perfectly.
It's just it's never gonna happen.

545
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:13,639
Man, and that guy would They
would have had to put together some crazy

546
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,360
offer. So the second apron make
things weird for every team. There's a

547
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,840
bunch of stuff going out around that, Like the reason the traded line was

548
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,559
quiet because all these owners are like, the fuck is the second apron.

549
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:28,719
A lot of it is just Zoo
needs to get back to one hundred percent

550
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:32,440
because I'm getting incoming about this issue
all the time on Twitter to somebody's saying

551
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,360
we can't beat anyone with size,
the Cavs, the Tea Wolves, the

552
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Pels, the Lakers. It's like, Okay, how many games did Vita

553
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:42,960
Zubats actually play against those teams?
And how many games was he not on

554
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,159
a minute restriction? Oh? Like
none of them? Uh the first two,

555
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,159
I guess against the Lakers, and
you could say he dominated Anthony Davis

556
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:53,920
in that second game and the Clippers
probably still should have won that. But

557
00:39:54,599 --> 00:40:00,800
Mason Plumley has to play better.
That has to That's part of the solution.

558
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,239
Mason Plumbley has to play better.
He's supposed to be one of the

559
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,719
best backup bigs in the league,
considering he was starting for a team,

560
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,559
granted it with Charlotte, but he
was having a career year. So maybe

561
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,800
it's just health, timing rhythm for
him. And then it beats a Zubots.

562
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,239
It's getting back to one hundred percent
and getting back in that flow he

563
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:28,239
was with James Harden or maybe it's
Timezi Metsu maybe sign all the bigs.

564
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,159
Well, what's this right? Why
don't you read this take from blank Slate

565
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:35,000
because this is one that I think
I think Adam is going to have things

566
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,519
to say about, which I'm excited
for. All right, So blank Slate

567
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:42,559
said, uh, Louis and Tyler
needs to reset. The offense should be

568
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,760
less focused on ISO to get the
stars going and more on quicker ball movement,

569
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,920
getting the ball from side to side, using paint touches to set up

570
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,440
threes, back door cuts, and
more space for the one on one attacks

571
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:59,960
role players not getting enough goal attempts
Adam. Let's say, let's just upend

572
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:04,719
the offense completely. Tyler Loue criticized
the team last night for kno getting the

573
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,440
ball side to side, for not
moving it enough along the perimeter. The

574
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:12,159
message was there the players didn't do
it enough. I think there's a shot

575
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,239
factor when you're going up against a
team that always has a hand in your

576
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,239
face on every shot like Minnesota had
last night, when typically you're the best

577
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,000
three point shooting team in the league
because you were finding open shots and they

578
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,320
weren't last night. So a bit
of a culture shock for the Clippers,

579
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,480
even though they had played them once. That's how good the Timberwolves are defensively.

580
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:37,320
They're They're the best defense by a
significant margin so far this season.

581
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,480
It is alarming that we basically heard
Kawhido say the same thing about the offense

582
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,679
a couple of weeks ago. We
were all really excited considering like where the

583
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,079
Clippers were in their hot streak,
and it's still more of the same.

584
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:51,320
Or is this just fatigue handing into
the All Star breaking it? Literally?

585
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,519
Their offensive rating going into that game
last night was one twenty three since November

586
00:41:54,519 --> 00:42:01,639
seventeenth, it was historic, reset
it hundred. So tylu should change it

587
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,079
because there's one team that gives them
problems. Uh, And it's really more

588
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:12,159
about a roster thing than an offensive
principal thing. Twenty nine different strategies,

589
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,840
one for each team, all right, smarter than TYLERU give us the intel,

590
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:21,760
tell us what to do. No, I think I think it's crazy.

591
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,679
I think it's right. Like reset
the offense, what does that even

592
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:32,119
mean? Rotation player just gets ten
to attempts boom boom, Yeah fifty right

593
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:37,639
there, we're starting five. You're
doing good. Uh yeah, I don't

594
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:39,960
know. And it's also yeah,
so it'sine. Let's call it what it

595
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,480
is. The point you made about
the adjustment, there was a Kawhi got

596
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,039
the ball in the paint yesterday,
went up to do like a layup,

597
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:52,960
saw Rudy and and then had to
go out and do this awkward look.

598
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,320
He made it do this awkward looking
fade away, and you don't love that

599
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,960
play? I did too. But
it was a perfect an example of like

600
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:06,079
this team is gigantic. You're playing
the biggest best team in the league,

601
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:10,360
so that one of the biggest teams
ever. Really when you have Rudy Gobert

602
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:15,880
and katyays Reid who comes in off
the bench and is this Sam as large

603
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,639
as well? The Clippers have an
ant issue too. He's very good and

604
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:23,440
usually tends to figure things out.
They may have no answer for him when

605
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,559
he's at his best. Nobody does
right, just like you know, just

606
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,519
like Kawhi, there are tradeoffs,
like when we talk about, oh,

607
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,960
the Clippers don't have this to match
up with this team, every other team

608
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:37,119
is going, damn, how do
we match up with the Clippers in this

609
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:42,800
way? That is the league.
There are no perfect teams. It's just

610
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,039
how well can you mask your flaws
in the seven game series. No perfect

611
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:51,239
teams, just perfect fans. That's
that's all we got. In the NBA.

612
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,880
We had some not insane takes,
which was nice to see. Most

613
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:59,480
of them were not crazy. Dub
twelve twenty said, it's February our biggest

614
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:02,039
coming off injury with time limitations.
We just got back from a two week

615
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:07,199
Grammy trip, playing eight games in
thirteen days. It's the week before All

616
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,840
Star. Let's not overreact losing to
a good team. Note the things we

617
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:15,599
learned in the matchup and apply later. Love that. Thank you, Dub.

618
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,000
There were some good things in the
journal. Put it in the journal.

619
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:23,360
Bro. They got to go at
Mike Conley Moore, Yeah, yes

620
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,480
they did. They did. It
was effective, although the Tea Wolves picked

621
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:30,719
up on it pretty quickly and a
double came. But that's how Paul George

622
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:36,599
got a couple of looks and he
and Kawhi Well, on that play you

623
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,639
mentioned Kawhi instead of going in the
restricted area, he backed it out and

624
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:45,519
had the six foot fade away.
They were intent on getting into the basket.

625
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:50,119
On that play where Paul George crossed
up Anthony Edwards, he tripped obviously,

626
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:54,599
but he went at Rudy Gobert for
a really acrobatic lefty layup. It

627
00:44:54,679 --> 00:45:00,280
was incredible, and they didn't shy
away. They kept testing him. That's

628
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,719
what has to be done against Minnesota. You gotta understand going into it,

629
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,679
you're gonna lose some of those battles. It doesn't matter. You have to

630
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,000
keep going at him. That's just
where it is. So I think there

631
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:15,519
was some game plan stuff that I
like there. I also think uh and

632
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:19,599
maybe Wilson Seddon Adam. Do you
think that this game was managed like a

633
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,519
playoff game would be by TYLERU.
I don't think there were. I think

634
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:27,880
we're gonna see a couple different avenues
the Clippers take in the playoffs against this

635
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,119
team. Well, one because zoo
Bots on a minister restriction just kind of

636
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:39,800
upends all the rotations and lineups and
minute allocations. But yeah, I don't

637
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,840
think coach lou ever gives too much
away during a regular season, especially against

638
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,199
a team where you might likely have
to see them in the playoffs. I

639
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,760
just don't. I think, like
what Will was saying earlier, you know,

640
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,199
it just still feels like the Clippers
in a playoff series have a few

641
00:45:55,239 --> 00:46:00,280
more moves, have a few more
tricks up their sleeve that we have not

642
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,920
seen at all this season. In
fact, coach who talked about it recently,

643
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,039
they're still putting in some of the
offense and will be during the All

644
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:12,920
Star Game. They haven't even you
know, uploaded all the offensive game plans

645
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,760
yet and all the schemes. So
this is still a team that has James

646
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,159
Harden, who's been on the team
for what forty games now, And I

647
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:23,920
think that may come into effect with
some of the floaters being missed here and

648
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,559
there. I think there's a comfortability
issue because when he goes to that floater,

649
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,840
part of how he gets that shot
off is because of the threat of

650
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,119
the pick and roll. It gets
him to that point, but then you

651
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:37,119
don't know if he's gonna throw a
lob or get the floater and I think

652
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:42,679
he's been a little bit still indecisive
at times with that in between shot there,

653
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:49,000
so it could get better. There's
nothing like a business trip to Indiana

654
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:52,880
to get the vice right, to
get everything nailed out. That's what they

655
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,440
need. Well, do you have
any more thoughts on the Clippers versus large

656
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,760
teams before we we have to do
another outbreak? No? I don't think

657
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,039
so. Do you guys want to
see them pick up someone still? I

658
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:08,320
said met to. I don't know, man, Okay, let me let

659
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:14,119
me ask you this. If this
game last night happened before the trade deadline,

660
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:15,719
do you think they would have made
a move? Do you think this

661
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:21,159
game was that much of a red
flag gir alarming because they had red They

662
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:27,239
had red flags before this game and
the same they have the same red flag,

663
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,599
I guess, but it's like,
now you get them twice at home,

664
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,599
you lose by twenty one. This
time, there's a little bit more

665
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:38,599
data now that's true. I don't
know. I don't know if that would

666
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:42,760
make the front office, you know, feel a little bit more urgency to

667
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,039
bring someone else in. I still
think it's Plumbing's got to play. Betters

668
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:50,840
played better, and they're still figuring
out with zoo Back, like who gets

669
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:59,760
to play each night and how much
with those guys give me the name Adam

670
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,679
goes straight. I call him zoo
Back. When he doesn't play good,

671
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:07,880
zoo block zoo Back. Yeah,
all right, coming up, we're gonna

672
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,800
be talking. The Clippers are gonna
retire at least one Jersey into it,

673
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,880
it seems. And then the All
Star break is in La and we have

674
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,920
a fun giveaway to talk about,
thanks to giveaway Adam, who just finds

675
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,960
things to give away, which is
great. If you're watching over on YouTube

676
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,559
dot com slash at Clippers Podcast,
you don't have to worry about this.

677
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:28,239
But if you're listening, the ads
have been loud for some people. If

678
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,800
that's been the case for you,
go ahead and turn it down. We

679
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,519
got ads coming up in three two
one. Welcome back. In Clips and

680
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,000
Dip season two, episode fifty one, I'm Adam Mas and we got Chuck

681
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:44,440
Mockler in Will Updike here. We'll
also have tomorrow night a little Clips and

682
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,199
Double Dip. I think Will's coming
on. But then again, if the

683
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:50,480
Clippers lose the Golden State Wars,
it could be Chuck. It's a loss

684
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:58,840
of town. Uh so a little
bit of miscellaneous here to close things out,

685
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,039
guys there hiring a jersey at Into
It Dome. I didn't get the

686
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:06,960
email, h so maybe Chuck if
you got it. It's not on Twitter.

687
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,079
Someone tagged me, I'm okay,
Well what did What was the verbiage?

688
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,039
How did they describe it? Basically, let me find this damn tweet.

689
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,840
I did get the memo thank you
for Oh this is from Ron Seal.

690
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,679
Oh, thank you for trita status. Ron. He's been a listener

691
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:27,719
for a very long time. So
check out POC culture, uh he said.

692
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,880
The email says, as we get
closer to moving into Into It Dome,

693
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,599
we got to wondering who do our
fans think is most deserving of a

694
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:39,000
jersey retirement? If and when we
reached that point somewhere down the line,

695
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:45,280
so we thought we'd ask this.
It would be fantastic if you could complete

696
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,360
a super quick survey on this four
questions only. The survey will be open

697
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,440
through Wednesday, y February fourteenth.
Wow, great copy. Who do you

698
00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:01,199
guys think is going to get their
jersey retired at into It? They gotta

699
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:06,239
put something up for Ralph. I
don't know if it's a jersey, they

700
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,719
could be mustache for Ralph would be
very fun. Chae Kurn has a jersey,

701
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:17,119
right, yeah, is freaking statue. Yeah, I'm about Bob McAdoo.

702
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,960
But I mean that doesn't matter when
you're talking or the Clippers, especially

703
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,800
because they have gone back with versions
of the old Buffalo Braves jerseys. They've

704
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:37,760
implemented that into their city editions over
the years. Yeah, yeah, I

705
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:44,239
mean I think like it's gotta be
all of the big three from Bob City,

706
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,960
Like they're no matter what people's feelings
or whatever. Like, I don't

707
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,960
think the Clippers are not going to
retire Chris, Paul, Blake and DJ's

708
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:54,559
numbers. Oh, they definitely should. I don't know if it's not gonna

709
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:59,519
happen anytime soon, obviously with two
of them still technically playing, but no,

710
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:01,679
three of all three are still playing. Blake is you know, a

711
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,000
free agent at the moment. But
should we sign Blake? Would we have

712
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:07,920
beat the Timbrels if we signed Blake? Do you guys call last night?

713
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,840
Oh? Yeah, I bet I
got the tin? Uh? Will anyone

714
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,760
else? Who do you think is
going up there? Me? Last got

715
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,800
to get up there. I thought
I'd love lou Will's jersey to be retirement.

716
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,599
I think that is totally Yeah.
I would I would really like I

717
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:27,559
would really like both the bet you
guys like, I would love if Jamal

718
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:31,039
and Williams both who's got retired.
I know we'll probably get shipped on for

719
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:36,760
that by like the wider media or
whatever. Those guys were kind of wider

720
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:42,440
media, I mean, wider fan
days or whatever. Mainstream media hates this

721
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,039
pot, I'll tell you that much. I don't know. I think it

722
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,639
would be cool. It's what four
total six man a year awards that they

723
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,039
it's cool that we're one Clippers like, I mean, I think that's kind

724
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:57,559
of cool. I'd like to see
Elton Brand and that red jersey get retired.

725
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,199
Elton Brand was part of a team
and the leader of it that helped

726
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,280
put the Clippers on the map,
that six team that went to the second

727
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,599
round and had his best years as
a Clipper. He was dominating one probably

728
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:12,920
one of the more underrated players in
the game at that time. Before the

729
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,920
Achilles injury, Elton Brown was an
absolute beast. Yeah. Do you think

730
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,159
we could do like a co jersey
retirement and be like Baron Davis and Laura

731
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:24,599
Dern just to commemorate that one month. While that'd be cool, do you

732
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:35,360
think's visor's going up that should?
Did you see people people were like crapping

733
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,000
on the clippers for putting jerk like
the high school jerseys up too, And

734
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,760
I'm like, what what's wrong with
you? Like truly, what's wrong with

735
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,679
you? Let us have our stuff. It's our house, we could have

736
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:51,159
whatever stuff we love. I mean, you would you would just be so

737
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,239
I just feel like he would be
so psyched on that if you you know,

738
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:58,400
when you visit as a kid,
you know, yeah, that's it's

739
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:04,519
great raiding the city and what are
we How could you criticize that? I

740
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,199
hate the youth and I hate the
city. That's right, That's what people

741
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,000
are saying, Like, what the
that's the for this episode? But it's

742
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:15,800
not even like it's not even like
it's it's like southern California, Like it's

743
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:21,760
like even larger than just Yeah,
people who don't like that can go to

744
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,320
hell. I think those are all
good retirement options. If you don't like

745
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,760
our options, leave a comment and
we'll thumbs down it or let us know

746
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:37,199
on Twitter what you guys think.
I don't think Danny Manning's making it still

747
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,239
have good years cool, but I
don't know if he's I don't know.

748
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:45,880
No disrespect to the Manning family,
the Danny Manning family, I don't know

749
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,400
about Peyton. All right, we're
gonna play a little Love Mary Quarantine here.

750
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:59,440
They all start breakers in LA.
I want to, oh mcghetty to

751
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,639
have spicy spaghet that makes sense.
Put he and mcguet he and Elton brand

752
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,840
in the same day. That'd be
great. You could put the knuckleheads in.

753
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,280
Yeah, I was gonna say that
would be good because there's like eras

754
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:15,000
you know that. I feel like
i'd retire all the jerseys if it was

755
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,679
my way, no one would have
any numbers. We'd have to make up

756
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,760
new numbers. Yeah, I guess
they didn't think about implications of that,

757
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,280
like you can't use the number.
I'm number forty seven the unlicensed old NBA

758
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,320
games, which you can't have a
city or a number. You can pick

759
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,079
a number between ninety nine and eighty
two. That's what you can wear on

760
00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:37,719
my friend. Goofy numbers though,
would be kind of fun. Yeah,

761
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,800
I would. I would. I'm
a fan of that, all right.

762
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,440
The All Star Break is in LA. We we had a thing on here

763
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,239
to guess Kawhi and pg's stat lines. But I think we all want zero's

764
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,079
across the board for the All Star
Game for those two guys don't play.

765
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,320
Yeah, we'll play and take a
really funny foul someone really funny, and

766
00:54:54,320 --> 00:55:00,440
then the game is really a tough
watch. It has become a complete spectacle

767
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:07,119
of just people mocking the NBA and
how middle these guys care. Like it

768
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:12,360
doesn't make sense if you're gonna have
all these spectacular highlights. They kind of

769
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,599
only work nowadays because we've seen everything
when someone's trying to play defense against it.

770
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:20,960
At the same time, when it's
just open gym stuff, it's not

771
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:28,119
nearly as impressive. Yeah, it's
not like it's just not indicative of the

772
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:31,480
talent level of any of the players
participating in the All Star In the All

773
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:37,440
Star Game, if I honestly,
I don't understand who it's for to be

774
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:44,079
like to be perfect little kids.
I think is grow the game, but

775
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:46,440
like you're gonna be excited about the
game, like watching some kind of shitty

776
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:52,880
basketball. Kids don't know ball,
so yeah, that's why you hate them.

777
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:59,079
And then when you realize how much
it sucks. That's your coming of

778
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:04,360
age ball moment, like, yeah, people guys don't care. Yeah,

779
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:13,400
they're not being competitive. Yeah so
they also sure, So the All Star

780
00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:20,000
Game is in Indiana? What are
we gonna do? How can Clippers players?

781
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,920
I totally got this wrong and wrote
this if the alcar game was in

782
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:24,719
LA. So I totally whiffed this. So this is for next year?

783
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,440
I said, I know I got
it wrong. I wrote this like seven

784
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,800
hours ago when I was tired.
So that's my bad. How are the

785
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,320
Clippers players when the So you thought
that the AL Game was going to be

786
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,039
in l A this whole time,
just this morning? Oh okay, because

787
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:40,599
when I was writing the rundown,
I was like, oh, ship,

788
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,239
let's get this going. Do you
think you were busy this weekend? Not

789
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:52,159
at all? Not at all?
When the Also game is in LA as

790
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:57,440
everyone knows is next year. Uh
I'm thinking of why is Clippers players can

791
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,559
make people feel welcome. It's a
big it's hard to traverse. The options

792
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:07,079
here are Paul George puts in a
shift for the d t l A safety

793
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:09,199
team, which if you've been to
downtown LA, are the people in the

794
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:14,039
purple shirts who ride the bike and
give you directions and protect you from maybe

795
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:20,159
some situations happening. The other option
Russell Westbrook Star Maps tour guide. He's

796
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:22,079
in the van, he's got the
mic. Maybe you're doing his version of

797
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:28,320
Stars. People feel welcome. Third
option James Harden handing out free samples of

798
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,480
his wine as you leave your gate
at lax you enter the city. You

799
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:37,199
know how Hawaii you get the lay. I feel like it should be on

800
00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:40,760
the plane because that's like wait,
every flight to lax Hey, for those

801
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,760
twenty one and over, you can
get a free glass for everyone. Any

802
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,159
ticket and customer gets. Oh yeah, they still try to cut it with

803
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:52,519
a ton of ice and go cheap
on you. Yeah yeah, just because

804
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:54,440
like when you get out at the
airport, it's like, man, I

805
00:57:54,440 --> 00:58:00,119
gotta get my bag. I'm assuming
he's handing these out in glass. You

806
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,920
know, it's a very larger glass
like wine last I'm like, I gotta

807
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,159
carry this around and go get my
bag. And it's got a top with

808
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:08,719
a straw coming out of it.
You gotta get on the gotta get on

809
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:13,320
the stupid shuttle to get to the
to get to the uber lift pickup I

810
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,400
mean, I got I'm busy,
I can't hold the glass of wine,

811
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:22,039
all right, So you're not liking
the line one? Which one do you?

812
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:25,800
Which? I think Paul George downtown
on a bike. Yeah, I'm

813
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,639
I'm I'm loving that. I think
I'm marrying to Russell Westbrook Star to War

814
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:36,519
though. That's great. Yeah,
Russ would crush that, Adam. Yeah,

815
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:40,400
I'm going with Russ first, then
the one with James Harden, then

816
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:46,159
cyclist p It's not a night shift
for Paul George either. He's there in

817
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:53,320
daytime hours, so he's not by
the CVS on seven games. Then I

818
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,639
saw one of those guys one time. I'm like, they're you know,

819
00:58:55,679 --> 00:59:00,960
they're like on the mountain bikes,
Uh, trying to pass a car in

820
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,920
a right hand turn lane on the
right side. It was very slow.

821
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,000
It was very slow. But like
they came off the bike obviously. Hey.

822
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,480
Sometimes Hey, they were fine.
They were totally fine. They were

823
00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:15,800
they were they were just a little
embarrassed. What are you gonna do?

824
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:21,280
Uh? Sometimes you're in the zone, you know, you think you're you

825
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,079
put that purple polo on. You
know, you're not seeing anything you have

826
00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:25,880
you're out blinders up, dude,
you're going as fast as you can.

827
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,280
You had to help blood doping running
through you. Yeah, you had to

828
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,719
help someone find the fancy peanut butter
and jelly place at Grand Central. I

829
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:37,440
don't even know if that place is
still there. All right, Adam,

830
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,159
do you have the giveaway item?
We barely tease this up top, but

831
00:59:42,159 --> 00:59:45,360
we have a giveaway folks. You
stick around to clips and dip. You

832
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,760
will see how you can win free
stuff. As we have done in the

833
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,079
past, given away a T shirt
that became a pillow and which is er.

834
00:59:54,239 --> 01:00:00,480
We now have a vizza Zoo bots. Is this a bibblehead? What

835
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:04,440
do you call it? Some people
on Twitter are calling it something else?

836
01:00:05,239 --> 01:00:07,400
What were they calling it chuck?
I'll let people go on Twitter and figure

837
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:15,599
that out. We got the bobblehead. Yeah, bach bibble half brought to

838
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:20,800
you by Lexus Uh Josh, shout
out lex I do lexis sadge. They

839
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,760
gave me a free car every mom
I'll get there January first, that if

840
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:30,920
I could stay in that cage,
if I could dance in the cage,

841
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:37,119
I do some do you guys want
to guess Big Zoo's birthday because it's on

842
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:39,920
the back of this, it's like
August. It's August fifteenth, Slaber the

843
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:45,239
right, No weirdo, what is
it March eighteenth, nineteen ninety seven.

844
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:50,000
But you had some real stalker vibes
there without Quickie Cake. There's Amber player

845
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:52,280
at my same birthday for some reason, me and Paul Georgia Moon brothers.

846
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:58,079
You're not mistaken. You're not Moon
brothers. So are we doing it in

847
01:00:58,119 --> 01:01:00,880
the traditional way? Here? In
clipson the best comment below? Yeah,

848
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,920
I think that makes sense on YouTube. Yeah, we'll pick it. What

849
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:08,519
are we gonna pick it? And
we're not shipping this bad boy international?

850
01:01:08,519 --> 01:01:15,679
I'm sorry, we might no keep
it in the States. We're not keeping

851
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:19,599
in the States, all right,
I won't pay for the ship this time.

852
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,760
You can comment from anywhere and if
we like it, could be funny,

853
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:29,360
could be insightful, we'll we'll pick
this. We'll pick it on the

854
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,760
next episode. That seems fair,
right, Yeah, it could be a

855
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,880
song if you write a song,
you know, just a little jingle meeting

856
01:01:38,239 --> 01:01:45,440
song. Oh I'm not no no
jingle whole song bridge. It is in

857
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,599
mint condition. Let's hope of Eats
Zubats gets back to that condition as well.

858
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:52,559
It perfect take. A good jingle
is as good as any song.

859
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,719
Yeah, you know what? You
know what jingle had stuck about? I

860
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,840
listened that cars for kids every day
by myself. I have and this is

861
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,320
such. If anyone listening or watching
knows this jingle, please, is it

862
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,679
gonna be O'Riley. No, It's
Dino's gas station for Montana. Do you

863
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:15,880
remember those w was right here at
Dino's. We know you're always on the

864
01:02:16,239 --> 01:02:21,039
run. Right here at Dino's.
It's been stuck in the I've been there

865
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,880
in seventeen years. It's been stuck
in my head for three days. Hope

866
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,920
it's still Hope Dino's doing Okay,
you've ever seen that movie Pie where the

867
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,159
guy takes the drill to his head
at the end. That's what I'm living

868
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:36,280
right now. That's how I felt
when I looked at the Clippers injury report

869
01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:39,440
today. I got the ryobi,
I switched in the new battery. I

870
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:45,960
put the longest drill bit. I've
had a long slogan stuck in my head,

871
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,440
not even it's not even a jingle. What's the slogan? And then

872
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:55,840
we'll promise we will get out if
you want to pay more that's your business.

873
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:01,679
If you want to save money,
that's Archie concord Ford's business. Good

874
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:06,760
luck, Archie conkling forward. The
only thing I remember is give no quarter.

875
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:09,320
Oh yeah, we got to get
a update on that. Someone please

876
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:15,480
let us know how much rid How
many nets have been ripped? None,

877
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:20,920
paints have been broken? Barely double
digits. All right, we have to

878
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,119
get out of here. We're doing
a double dip tomorrow after the game against

879
01:03:24,159 --> 01:03:29,079
the Warriors. If anything happens with
Kawhi and Paul George and the Alstar game,

880
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:31,239
we'll we'll talk about it. There's
gonna be a preview pod the very

881
01:03:31,239 --> 01:03:35,079
important games next week. We hope
everyone has a good All Star break.

882
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,320
If you want to catch up on
episodes, relive that nine game winning streak,

883
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,639
we have some We had some great
work during that game winning streak.

884
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,360
If you're coping with the injury of
Kawhi will where could people find old episodes

885
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,320
and maybe review us if they felt
like it. Ah, so, you

886
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,000
can get this podcast wherever you get
your podcast. If you feel so unclined,

887
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,000
you can leave this a little ratiing
and review over on Spotify or Apple

888
01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:00,599
Podcasts. It helps us out.
If you want to get the full clips

889
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:04,199
and dip experience, you got to
tune in subscribe. That's over at YouTube

890
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:10,880
dot com slash at Clippers podcast,
and we're always available on Twitter for the

891
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:17,079
most part. That's That's at Clippers
Pod for the most part, mostly before

892
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:23,480
we send people out of here.
We mostly tweet at night. For those

893
01:04:23,639 --> 01:04:26,679
new to the pod, we do
a wonderful thing where Adam says a positive

894
01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:30,960
thing at the end of the episode, Adam, what's the positivity? Day

895
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,920
before the third year in a row, the Clippers play the words of Valleton's

896
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:39,320
stuff. Our friend Joey Lynn asked
Kawhi Leonard last night after the Clippers got

897
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,480
Theiroly dominated and lost by twenty one, how close they are to being a

898
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:47,719
championship caliber team, and Kawhi responded
saying, quote, We're right there.

899
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,039
We've been winning games, as everybody
has seen. There's ways for us to

900
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:56,440
get better. That's what's scary.
Now is the time to turn it around.

901
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:01,079
Now. They won't have him tomorrow, but they have the All Star

902
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:06,760
breakoff. Guys, can heal up
get refreshed? Before the Clippers version of

903
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:12,760
March Madness was seventeen games coming up. I love March madness. I love

904
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,519
that positivity. Hope everyone has a
great break. Enjoy the cold weather.

905
01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:19,880
It might rain, we hope you
stay dry. Yeah, nothing else to

906
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,920
say other than the usual. Hope
everyone has a great night and as always,

907
01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:25,000
let's go clips.