WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:06.040 Extreamly live on the I heard radio wat. This is I on the Ball 2 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:12.080 with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome 3 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:14.800 back Toy the ball Hero, Fox Sports twirteen fifty. I'm Steve PSJ. 4 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:19.399 Now we have Henry with the bookings. O. This is I on the 5 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:26.719 Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. So the MLB drafts started yesterday. 6 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:31.640 Grab his Basanna from Oregon State went first overall. Guardians, three of 7 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:35.960 you guys have been selected in today's rounds. Pitcher Jackson Kent went to the 8 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:41.000 Nationals in the fourth round, Pitcher Clark Candiote went to the Padres in the 9 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:45.119 fourth round as well, and pitcher Anthony Susak went to the Rangers in the 10 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:50.359 eighth round. Kenyotty what okay? Was Kendyatty? What? Jackson the league 11 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:52.359 guy? He was the number one? Yeah, he was a Friday starter. 12 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:56.000 Okay, so he was She was the main starter then then and actually 13 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:59.719 Susak got off to a bad start. I think he was a starting pitcher 14 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:02.439 for and then he was a setup and then all of a sudden he became 15 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:06.239 their closer and he did really he's a lot of a lot of had a 16 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.159 lot to do with why they got, you know, where they got showed 17 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.079 all their arms. Yeah, so three yeah, three really three of their 18 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:15.079 four top pitchers are gone. Not surprised with any of them though, really 19 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:22.400 and uh and I guess nobody. None of their recruits have been picked so 20 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:25.799 far, which is good. So you know, you feel like if if 21 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:30.519 he recruited some guys that at least those guys might be showing up. The 22 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:36.239 Columbia Football Federation president and his son were part of twenty seven people who were 23 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:42.640 arrested at the Copa America final yesterday in Miami because they were fighting. According 24 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:48.079 to the story on ESPN, they were fighting with the security people trying to 25 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:52.120 get on the field and and they've they've they've charged with three counts of three 26 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:55.719 foulon counts of battery. This is after the game before I think it was 27 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:57.879 before. It sounds like that was part of the problem, not that people 28 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:04.239 trying to get in. This was this was elsewhere. This it's had nothing 29 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:06.799 to do with trying to get in the stadium. It says they were trying 30 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:12.080 to get on the field. The uh who the president, the president Ramon 31 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:17.919 is it Heson hes On, So I guess he didn't have his name tag 32 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:22.840 either on it. J E s U r U and he Ramon and and 33 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:27.280 his and his son Ramon Emil. Uh they were they were both got three 34 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:31.240 fellon accounts of battery, uh, according to UH. According to this, 35 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:36.319 it says the The policy report goes on to say that the altercation with the 36 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:39.400 hest instern physical. Once a security officer asked the men to step back by 37 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:46.479 placing his palm on the kid Ramon Emil to guide him back. According to 38 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.879 the officer of the duo quickly became irate at a garden, began shouting at 39 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:53.120 him, and then I apparently escalated from there. Don't you know who I 40 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:57.000 am? Yeah, but that was that was chaos. I don't know if 41 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:00.560 he saw some of that. Yeah, I mean there's I'm gonna show a 42 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:07.439 picture of of escalator that had been destroyed. I don't know. I don't 43 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:08.719 know how you would have done that. There were you know, like there 44 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:13.000 were people, barriers, people were foll there were barriers trying to hold people 45 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:16.199 back. People were squished up against them and falling over, little kids and 46 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:22.800 stuff getting smashed, and they're just you know, it looks it's people that 47 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:27.639 came to the game, didn't have tickets but decided they were getting in, 48 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.599 right, they didn't have tickets, and they and then and then and then 49 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.560 and they got in and at some point, at some point, it got 50 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.360 so chaotic at the gates and so dangerous that they just opened the gates so 51 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:42.400 anybody could go in. And so you'd go to your people going to their 52 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.520 seats, and there were other people in their seats, and they weren't leaving, 53 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:51.159 they weren't giving up the seats. It did bring up concerns for the 54 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:53.800 woke up in the World Cup totally two years because America, the United States, 55 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:58.280 is a ghost. Yeah. Yeah, you can't handle your situation. 56 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:00.159 You can't handle this, but you you can do with the America's Cup. 57 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.840 Wait till the you know, wait till the Euros show up and there, 58 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.319 you know, and their people. You know. I I was certain, 59 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:10.960 okay, I we didn't actually bet on this, but I told my daughter 60 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.879 we were watching the game, and to my daughter, I'm gonna I'm gonna 61 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:18.959 tell her, I guarantee there's gonna be a fan incident during the game that 62 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:25.240 stops the game, either a riot in the seats or fans on the field 63 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.959 during the during the match, it didn't happen. So Richard, Richard, 64 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.600 this is like Twitter is when you send me notes. I'm gonna I'm gonna 65 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:35.160 say this because now it's no longer your notice, it's everyone. So Richard 66 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:39.959 says, becoming a third world country. We're we're coming to change charging the 67 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:44.199 gates, throwing what next to charging of the gates? Throw urine bombs? 68 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:49.040 Stabbing somebody his socker sucks. Well, first of all, you know these 69 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:55.560 fans were they were the Columbia and Argentina fans. So I'm gonna blame it 70 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:58.360 on them. And I don't care if somebody wants to call me and say 71 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:00.279 I'm an idiot and just make you know I'm judging. Yes, I am 72 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:04.879 judging, okay, because this stuff doesn't really I mean, you have situations, 73 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:09.199 you have brawls and things like that, you know, among individuals at 74 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.639 US sporting events all the time, but you don't have major sport events like 75 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:15.680 this for people to say, I'm coming with or without a ticket, and 76 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.600 I'm getting in. So, Henry, I want you to meet my new 77 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:25.959 co host, Archie Bunker, to do Archie bunkers. It's too long to 78 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:30.480 explain. But our listeners Google, Yeah, our listeners know who we're talking 79 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:31.800 about. But serious, I mean, you know, look, I mean 80 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:36.120 you know they're rowdy soccer fans. We don't have rowdy soccer fans because you 81 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:40.399 can't win. You got to be a winner first. But for whatever reason, 82 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:44.360 Steve, I'm just saying we don't have them, not to this extent. 83 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:46.959 Not to this extent, they don't do that, all right. And 84 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:51.879 in the actual game, Argentina defeated Columbia one to nothing to win the Coco 85 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:58.519 America in extra time an extra time and it was last few matches were very 86 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:02.600 good, but it was a great Semis Swinels. I really had fun watch 87 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:08.000 and I can't remember having fun. Well. I've had fun watching other soccer 88 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.319 matches in the past, only if I had money on. I had no 89 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:15.480 money on. I just watched it no apparent reason. It can be done. 90 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.720 It can be done for no apparent reason. I just watched it and 91 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:21.319 I sit from start. I mean I sat through all the pregame stuff. 92 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:27.000 Uh my, my, my, my daughters were making fun of the studio 93 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.120 host and her dress and saying it it didn't it didn't fit with what they 94 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:31.839 were trying to do, So there was that kind of commentary. But I 95 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.480 sat there through all the pregame stuff and then I watched the whole mass. 96 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:39.560 I went to google the outfit. Yeah, it was just it was just 97 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:45.720 a funky looking dress, just crazy design. And in the euro Cup final, 98 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.560 Spain defeated England by score of two to one. Yeah that last it 99 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:50.959 was the last second goal to It was in the last couple of minutes, 100 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:55.000 right, Yeah, that was it again. Yeah, that was another one. 101 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.240 That was a that was a fun thing to watch. At the end, 102 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:00.839 I was still feeling the sting of that Dodge loss. But again, 103 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:05.399 you know, I don't know why these two these two tournaments became kind of 104 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:09.959 important to me, not important, but just worth watching for me. Well, 105 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:14.160 no, are you hooked? No? But there was nothing else on. 106 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:15.680 But there was nothing else on, right, you know, I didn't 107 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.639 feel like watching the baseball game that was on last night with the Dot and 108 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.160 I don't want I don't want to watch any baseball. That's part of it. 109 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:26.079 Well, the Dodgers are souring you. Yeah, so are you okay? 110 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:31.079 Team USA basketball defeated Australia in ninety eight ninety two in an exhibition game 111 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:38.519 today in United Arab Emirates. Oh, Australia. I guess Australia is pretty 112 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.000 good. Notable players on that. You know, who are some of the 113 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:47.040 notable guys on that? Or what's his name? Josh Green is on that? 114 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:49.560 Yeah? Yeah, the game a good game, game, a good 115 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:55.000 note. Everyone on ESPN after the game says, what's wrong with every game 116 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.759 is a different game. There's actually some people out there saying that this team 117 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.040 is better than the Dream Team. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. 118 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.480 Shake yourself, I don't. Yeah, I don't know. It's like 119 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.040 people saying Lebron is better than Michael Jordan. Yeah. Yeah, maybe we're 120 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.639 too close to it, or it's our not our not our age group because 121 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:13.879 your son's group is more this group, right than our group. Yeah. 122 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.720 So I'm sure that they didn't see that they were even born in the dream 123 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.439 They don't even they don't even know that. Yeah, but they do this. 124 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.720 They had anything before nineteen ninety They have no idea what happened. There 125 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.759 was no World War one or no World War two, no Vietnam. They 126 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.720 don't know. Oh, I wasn't born yet what shut shut up? Did 127 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:35.399 you got a history class, Henry? Did you? I mean, I 128 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.440 can take one look at the roster of the Dream Team and just say, 129 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.679 yeah, exactly, exactly, there's and there's a bunch of Hall of famers 130 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.399 on this team too. But I'm sorry, you know, put put them 131 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.200 at you know, the at that prime age against these guys at their prime 132 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:54.240 age, and the Dream Team kills them. How old are you, Harry, 133 00:08:54.559 --> 00:09:00.799 You're a sensible twenty year old? No wonder we like from the Arizona 134 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.919 Women's soccer hired Nat Gonzalez and an assistant coach, and he had been the 135 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.799 head coach a U SEE Riverside since twenty eleven. Yeah, it sounds like 136 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.919 this is a great hire. There's been some reaction to that are on social 137 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.519 media that this apparently is a great high for Becka Morrow. Oh yeah, 138 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:22.759 yeah, okay, I don't know it's all, but yeah, it's funny 139 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.399 because did you read the did you read the release? No, they're all 140 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:31.440 into they're into strength and training and analytics and all that stuff. I don't 141 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.600 know what when this's happened, but it's all that. Now kick the ball, 142 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.799 it's play the game. I mean Honestly, this is we're old dudes. 143 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.559 Now I'm feeling sixty or whatever. But before didn't we just play and 144 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:45.840 if I was better than you, I'm going to be better than you. 145 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.639 Yeah, I just remember, I don't know if this applies, but we 146 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:54.879 have time right when the football coach stoops Mike stups here. And remember there 147 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.799 was a dude or alleged dude on Sixth Street who could be looking at the 148 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:01.759 practice field, and there was concerns. And I'm thinking, Mike, is 149 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.840 is that really a concern because isn't it your guys against their guys. I'm 150 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.559 better than you, and I'm gonna prove it. They know what you're doing. 151 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:13.879 You're supposed to be better exactly. It's whether you were uniforms uniform. 152 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.240 I'm there to kick your ass. Yeah, I don't care. If you 153 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.960 know what I'll run. You can either block or you can't. Right right 154 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.639 now, hear you? When did this all change? Where was I sleep? 155 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:28.360 It changed when video became such a part of the ease of video became 156 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.840 such a part of uh the game prep use of the use of video. 157 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.320 You know they, I mean they have video on the sidelines now and in 158 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.960 some you know, in some leagues and stuff where you can you can go, 159 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.799 you can go look at the plays that you just ran, see what 160 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:45.159 they did against those, and then try and you know, do come up 161 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.240 with something else. And then now that you know, with different types of 162 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:50.960 software, programs and stuff like that, I mean, how do you know 163 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.600 some of these baseball stats that you see that you know, Joe Blow he's 164 00:10:54.600 --> 00:11:01.080 batting four twenty one against a right handed pitcher who who throws you know, 165 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:05.919 an eighty five mile an hour change up and he's he's he's batting three forty 166 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:11.159 one against the change up. That's why they had to shift right. And 167 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:13.639 then it was a good enough yeah, you know, and and stuff like 168 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:20.159 that. It's just when data became so available through the various types of software 169 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.360 and video, and like, I don't understand how they get some of these 170 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:28.399 statues exit velocity and you know, all that kind of stuff, exit angle 171 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.519 and launch angle, sorry, launch angle, those kinds of things. And 172 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.480 they know the launch angle of every hit in Major League Baseball now, and 173 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.600 I'm like, what the hell? And that's when it happens, Steve. 174 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.279 And then when coaches, coaches man just started believing it. Yeah, yeah, 175 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.440 right, I get. When the shift came up, I get. 176 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:50.919 I mean, remember the first time you saw the shift when you saw three 177 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:52.720 infielders on one side? What are you doing? Wait? Wait wait wait 178 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.120 wait wait wait? Why why wouldn't you hit it over there? And then 179 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.759 they didn't. Well, it's kind of a cool to a scouting report. 180 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:01.799 We used to watch and scout and this guy likes hit up a middle. 181 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.120 Yeah, yeah, but this is all kind of crazy. But hey, 182 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.759 they're not pay me millions, so I wish they were not you me. 183 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:16.440 Okay, last thing I got. The Tucson Sugar Skulls lost to the San 184 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.720 Antonio gun Singers forty nine to forty three this weekend to fall to two and 185 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.440 thirteen on the season, and they have one more one more game. There 186 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.559 are games within one touchdown. Must be Yeah, a whole bunch It might 187 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.679 have to, but guess what you still lose, still lose. That's a 188 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:37.879 whole bunch of them. Ant on the local teams. FC two Son is 189 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.039 in the playoffs. During the playoffs. Yeah, we'll have the coach on 190 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:45.759 Wednesday. So I know that Perelman was pretty excited. He pumped him up 191 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.320 a week or so ago. We had him on. It's it's a thirty 192 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:52.600 two team bracket. Uh, the Tucson is in that is in the what 193 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.480 the Western bracket? I just had it here. Yeah, they're in the 194 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:03.039 they're in the Western Western bracket. But it's thirty two team single elimination tournament 195 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:09.080 and they start on Friday and they host right m Yeah, yeah, Friday, 196 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:13.159 and that'll be exciting. Who knew the start of the season, Oh 197 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.080 brand new? Right yeah, and here they are. Yeah, so good. 198 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:20.159 Congratulations to We got a call, we got call. We can get 199 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:24.679 this in real quick, real quick. Hey, call us on the other 200 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:26.519 side of this guest of this guest, and we're calling the guests again, 201 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.960 right that was it wasn't our guest. We're calling him. Thanks for calling 202 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.159 call us out the other side, because we're going to break now, and 203 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:37.360 we're gonna go to break. We're gonna have Tim Everson. He's the sports 204 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.519 editor of the Manhattan Mercury newspaper in Manhattan, Kansas, where Kansas State is. 205 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:43.600 We want to talk to him about what's going on, you know, 206 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:48.039 just dron the Big twelve, uh, sort of getting acquainted over there and 207 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.360 then talking a little bit about that first game that well It's not a conference 208 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.039 game, but it is kind of a Big twelve game against It's a game 209 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:58.639 against a Big twelve opponent when Arizona plays the Kansas State Wildcats the other Wildcats 210 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.879 in the third game of the season. So stick around for Tim every s 211 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.759 We'll bear it back. 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I don't know if you know what that was, 269 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:11.400 but I'm sure you can google. I don't know. I don't think 270 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.960 you can google it. No, actually it was in Kansas. It was 271 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:22.000 versus Kansas and basketball. Oh so never mind, he got see we yell 272 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.640 at people who confuse Arizona with Arizona State, and now Steve does that right 273 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:29.440 now, I'll believe the show right now. Great to have you on bead 274 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:33.680 that Jay found you. Are you as excited as everybody here to see that 275 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:37.559 Kansas State Arizona football game? Yeah? I mean it's at least for Sate 276 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:42.000 State. It's kind of the first kind of marching matchup of the season, 277 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:48.599 and it's our first look at at the Four Corners school. So, I 278 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.480 mean, I think everyone around here was super excited whenever we landed before of 279 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:57.200 the guys and uh, you know, we're excited to kind of get this 280 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:00.279 new version of Big twelve up runner. Well, Well, let me go 281 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:04.960 to that because uh, you know we're sitting over here and we've been in 282 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.960 the Pack telve all this time. You know, what were the I mean 283 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:15.079 what kind of reputation I guess these four schools and particularly Arizona have you know, 284 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.079 among you know the big twelve, right, What where do people think 285 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.480 of these schools coming? Uh? What do they think of their football programs? 286 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.200 Obviously you know Arizona sticks out with basketball, but you know when we're 287 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.720 talking football, they're kind of like, uh okay, they're you know, 288 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:32.319 kind of middling schools. Utah has been good recently with a couple of rosebells. 289 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.440 But you know what what was that? What were the fans thoughts in 290 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:38.079 terms of what was being added to the league, particularly in football? Yeah? 291 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:42.119 Absolutely, Well, first and foremost, you know, Colorado is like 292 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:49.799 you know that inebriated Hausen that you for a while that you're kind of welcoming, 293 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:56.200 welcoming back. Well, we're very, very familiar with them. Yeah. 294 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.440 And then at the Arizona schools. I I know that uh K State 295 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:07.039 in Arizona and Arizona State have played in the somewhat recent maybe Arizona not since 296 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.799 the seventies. Airs in the state fairly recently. Programs have had their you 297 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:17.680 know, their height, but nothing you know, super super impressive, you 298 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:22.160 know, just at times Teddy, A lot of coaches has gone through. 299 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.480 We've known that. And then obviously Utah, as you mentioned, have kind 300 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:33.119 of been the is kind of this been the standard bearer of the non USC 301 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:37.359 Oregon right act. Well, and so we're you know, expect them to 302 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.000 be kind of kind of like k State in a way. It's kind of 303 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:47.920 a hard nosed, kind of blue collar you know, win winning the line 304 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:52.799 football team. And so I think that is you know, broadly, at 305 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:57.599 least from my perspective, kind of what what the what their reputations are. 306 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:03.720 So how long have you covered Kansas State for a while, Uh, it's 307 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:10.200 been in college. No, it's probably been you know, we're going on 308 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:12.640 like eight years, so they've been off and on. Yeah, they've been 309 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:17.960 pretty good in your stretch. Yeah, Yeah, I've I've been lucky and 310 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.720 then said I've taken over this job. You know, they they went Big 311 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:25.359 twelve, they went to the Sugar Bowl, they won the Pop Tarts full 312 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:30.440 last year that I've I've been lucky to get them kind of in their stride 313 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:34.000 Okay, so so you've seen some pretty good football. I think they went 314 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.519 second or third in the I think I picked second in the media poll, 315 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:44.480 right, yeah, did you vote and where did you have them? I 316 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:51.359 did vote. I had them as number two, also with utah number one, 317 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:55.599 just because I felt like, while I, uh, well, I 318 00:21:55.640 --> 00:22:00.519 think that there's a lot of potential for Case State, especially offensively. They 319 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.519 got some young pieces that I think are going to really make some noise. 320 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:08.880 I just felt like Utahaw was kind of had the more established situation, had 321 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:15.960 the more established quarterback, and you know, it's just kind of proven that 322 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:19.839 they are among that that upper echelon. Well, let's go to the quarterbacks. 323 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:22.240 Let's go to the quarterbacks, because there's a lot of you know, 324 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.279 obviously Arizona fans think they've got the best quarterback in the league. You guys 325 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.839 think, you know, or Kansas State feels like they do. Then there's 326 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.839 all these people who think that it's Shador Sanders, who's you know, being 327 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:37.960 picked as the best quarterback, but yet their team got picked to finish eleventh 328 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:41.400 in the league, which is an incredible conflict. I think in terms of 329 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.359 like, okay, how do you how do you pick. How do you 330 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:45.720 say you've got the best quarterback in the league, but you're going to finish 331 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:49.920 eleventh. So just some of your thoughts on the quarterback situation across the Big 332 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:56.200 Twelve. Well, it's it's it's a very strong situation. I mean I 333 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.440 think that, uh, just if you go school by school, well there 334 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:04.359 maybe with the exception of one or two, there isn't a school with a 335 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:10.119 quarterback that I don't think has a pretty strong enough side. You know, 336 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:12.920 I have gotten to see Avery Johnson in action. I do think he's the 337 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:17.640 real deal. I think that there's a you know, if he wasn't, 338 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:22.480 I think that Will Howard would still be in Manhattan instead of about to start 339 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:30.119 for perhaps the number one overall preseason Ohio State Luck Guide. But I mean, 340 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:33.880 what Arizona what what what? What Noah did at Arizona last year was 341 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.640 was phenomenal. I think the whole new coach thing makes you wonder how that's 342 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:42.839 kind of gel But obviously he has a pieces coming back that are going to 343 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:48.680 help immensely came rising. As I did mentioned kind of that standard Bear and 344 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:55.039 Daniels at Kansas, which is if he can stay healthy, he's as dynamics 345 00:23:55.200 --> 00:24:00.240 as anyone. Aric Green at West Virginia is going to be you know, 346 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.039 are going to surprise some people. Uh and I you know, and I'm 347 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:08.920 I'm forgetting six other rough robec to that at Iowa State had a surprisingly good 348 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:14.160 freshmen year and he should be better. So it's just it's a really fun 349 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:18.599 league for quarterback play. For for this upcoming season, we should see a 350 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:23.079 lot of really really good quarterback. Well have you backed Tim for basketball? 351 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.920 We have a lot of time left now, but I'm the basketball guy, 352 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.319 so we'll wait for that. Uh So, other than other than Noah and 353 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.400 and t Mac probably who else do you think or who else do you know 354 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:40.119 of Arizona? It's not not it's not a very long list. I haven't 355 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:45.759 been able to fully dive into, Uh what else you guys are bringing back 356 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:49.079 out of those are kind of the big name. Defensively, I feel like 357 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:59.039 I feel like there's a linebacker and that I feel bad for not having Yeah, 358 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:03.680 I know that that when when when Jed split, you guys didn't lose 359 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:08.960 as much as maybe people would have thought you would have with the transfer portal 360 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:15.039 situation. And then we get into coaching, so I know that in general, 361 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.279 you were able to kind of keep a lot of that talent around, 362 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.759 which is exciting. I mean, I you know, so let me ask 363 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.200 you, in your capacity as a sports editor and the big guy, I'm 364 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:32.359 assuming you travel with the team. Yes, it kind of depends on how 365 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:36.759 far the road trip is and everything. We haven't really figured out where all 366 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:40.559 all be going. But in general, yeah, yeah, so what what's 367 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:45.599 the more rabid places for fans and the places that are great venues to watch 368 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.440 the game because there's no fans probably need to kind of write those and write 369 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.799 those names down absolutely. So, I mean, you got you're gonna start 370 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:57.279 off with a great one. I mean, Manhattan, super fun rabbit fan 371 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.480 base. It'll be passed. It'll be like out. You know, it's 372 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.880 a Friday games, so that's going to add an extra little something to it. 373 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:10.799 Iowa State is, Uh, it's tough up there. I mean, 374 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:15.559 and especially if you play them when it's cold and miserable outside, it's it's 375 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:19.759 not a fun place to go play. Oklahoma State, Yeah, they got 376 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:26.119 the paddles and they're always super good and and and uh, definitely I think 377 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:33.319 one of the more underrated environments te Tech is fun. They learned. TTU 378 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:37.039 aren't anything super spectral. But when they're good, they you know, they're 379 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.880 they they they pack it out trying to take I'm for getting anybody else. 380 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:48.839 Oh, West Virginia. West West Virginia also one that's just they're just a 381 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.279 rabbit up there. West Virginia just sounds like an un fun place to go 382 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.319 because of that, because they're fan base and they're they're just nuts over there. 383 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.599 But then it's for you know, Arizona. That's going to be the 384 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.119 longest trip, I guess, probably a longer than Central Florida. Yeah, 385 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:07.680 I mean it will be. It's interesting because you got to fly into you 386 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.480 gotta fly into Pittsburgh and then you gotta you got to drive in from there, 387 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:17.440 unless you pay to fly directly into Morgantown, which I have been told 388 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:21.079 is more Okay, All right, Andy, So let me ask you this, 389 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:22.200 and this is you know, we're going back, you know, back 390 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:30.400 aways on this. But what's been the overall reaction to Oklahoma and Texas and 391 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.319 them starting all of this that happened. I mean, are big PAP fans 392 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:38.079 pissed at them? Are they happy they're gone? Are they upset that they 393 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:44.400 threw everything into total chaos, or are they just out of sight, out 394 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.720 of mind. It's it's it's a little of all of those. I think 395 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:55.440 it's different for each one. I think Oklahoma there'll be some sadness that at 396 00:27:55.559 --> 00:28:00.319 least at least from non Oklahoma state people. That's because that's you know, 397 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.279 they got to deal with that themselves. But at least for someone who from 398 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.240 from McCool has just been in the conference with them for over one hundred years. 399 00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:14.079 You know, you're sad to lose that history. You're sad to lose 400 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:19.400 that that bringand and they truly geography, they belong, they belong the big 401 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.200 problem. I mean they're big eight member, they were big seven member, 402 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.720 they were a big six numbers. So I mean they you know, they've 403 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:33.000 been there from the beginning. Uh. Texas, it's it's it's you know, 404 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:34.920 don't let the door hit you on the way out. Uh. They 405 00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:45.680 they came in when when the Southwest Conference dissolved, immediately took over, use 406 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:51.079 their you know, their money and everything. They kind of bully everyone around, 407 00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.960 and they got you know, the last seat of re alignment before this 408 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.119 most recent one. They got the long Coorn network out of it, and 409 00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:00.839 they got you know, they've found a way to chase Texas, A and 410 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:06.920 M and Nebraska out and uh, you know, I I will think that 411 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:11.880 anyone will miss They didn't provide enough on the field for anyone to feel like 412 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:17.200 losing them is that big of a You know, they wanted they won the 413 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.000 Big twelve on their way out the door, but they still I think I 414 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:26.160 saw a graphic earlier today that of the returning of the long standing Big twelve 415 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:34.920 numbers. They like have since uh two thousand, they've won f or fixed 416 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:41.000 most games out of everybody what not. It's you know, people aren't aren't 417 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:47.519 gonna miss it, right. I want to tell CONTI that because we had 418 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:48.880 the who do we have the car? The guy from Washington Post to one 419 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.160 of my buddies said the same thing. It's like Texas thinking they won five 420 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.960 or six national championships right in football, and they really haven't. They had 421 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.839 to stick out the chest like that. But that's good to know. Uh. 422 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.319 So, you you talked about the league. I think it's going to 423 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.839 be very balanced, right at least in the top six seven, would you 424 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:11.440 agree? Oh? Absolutely, I think even deeper than that. I mean, 425 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:17.240 I I don't want to mess around with you know, Arizona's and are 426 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:21.079 not Arizona. Houston is in you know, deep rebuilding mode. But you 427 00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:22.759 know they just they just got a great coach. I don't want to I 428 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.119 don't want to mess around with that. They they state the year that they 429 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:33.799 want the virtual title. Julane came in and beat them with UH and then 430 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:40.480 of course the coaches. I'm blanking with those things. But yeah, literally 431 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.079 it is, you know, back to front, it's tough, like buy 432 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.000 you people are saying, oh they're taking a step back, that's going to 433 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.839 be tough. You see, it's going to be a lot better the state. 434 00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.079 You know, going in the year two of a program under a new 435 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.079 coach is you know a lot different than the year one. And they seem 436 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.559 to have some stuff that you're out of quarterbacks. So I don't know, 437 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.359 I mean, it's it's going to be a blood bath, I think, 438 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.319 so, Tim, how many how many regular seasons? This might a dumb 439 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:18.799 question regular season championships has Kansas State won? I'm asking the reason for a 440 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:23.279 reason. I'm asking the question for a reason. Yeah, may one trying 441 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:29.240 to think I mean three four more? I think it's four, Okay. 442 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:30.519 So the reason I asked that because we talk about this all the time, 443 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:37.480 Arizona struggled throughout the Pac ten Pac twelve years forever. They never really had 444 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.960 a chance to win one outright, right, But I think the people here 445 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.440 think that now is their chance because the league is going to be kind of 446 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.599 comparable to what they've been used to, but better. You know what I'm 447 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.720 saying, It's going to be more equal. Did you feel that way too? 448 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.720 Absolutely? I mean I think with any you know, it's it's going 449 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.720 to come down to I don't know how the gonna break, you know, 450 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.640 tiebreakers, but there's probably going to be you know, six schools with seven 451 00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.759 or more wins, and it's you know, I think that any anyone is 452 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.480 going to be able to knock off anybody. It's gonna be super fun to 453 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.960 watch. Yeah, I mean, I think that's what we like about it, 454 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.480 and that and that, as you said, that doesn't even get into 455 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.319 the basketball piece of this, which is going to be you know, even 456 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:23.799 better. But you know, look, you know, looking at this football 457 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.440 season, a lot of discussion about how even this league is. That that's 458 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.279 good, but then what might be the bad part? Of it is if 459 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:36.599 the league cannibalizes itself, they might only get the one automatic spot in the 460 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.759 in the playoffs, you know, and then there might be five SEC teams 461 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:43.079 or something anything like that. And I think that you've already seen your mark 462 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:47.039 his whole Like didn't We're going to be the deepest league. I think that's 463 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:53.480 already starting to start the campaign. Hey, there's a lot of good teams 464 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:58.559 in this league. Don't don't forget about us just because you know we have, 465 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:04.359 you know, four teams with three or four losses that three or mortal 466 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.240 fear left locks. Let me ask you this because let me ask you about 467 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:08.960 Bret Yormark, because you know, from where we were sitting over here in 468 00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:15.720 the PAC twelve watching it slowly deteriorate into eventually nothing, and you know, 469 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.799 we were seeing Bret Yormark as a guy who was really having a lot to 470 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.160 do with the PAC twelve falling apart, and we didn't like him because of 471 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:28.599 that, because we felt he was wrecking the whole thing. Now Arizona's in 472 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.880 that league, and I'm like, okay, he we thought he was a 473 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.480 jerk, but now he's kind of our jerk and we like him because he 474 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.319 just seems like a guy who's going to go out there and try and get 475 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:42.640 stuff done. What's what's the overall your overall impression of Brett Yormark and how 476 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:49.400 he's running the league. I think that he is and I say this POSI 477 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:54.000 I think he's a shark. I in the sense that you know sharks, 478 00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:59.519 you know that they're always moving, They're always they're always you know, trying 479 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:06.319 to move forward. And if he if you give him an opportunity to make 480 00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.199 this league better, he's going to take it. Yeah, you know, 481 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:15.079 if you leave yourself open for that. He has the league's number one, 482 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.079 you know, priority in mind. He's going to make you know, you 483 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.239 know, I feel I think people still feel bad. I still feel bad 484 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:28.440 for Oregon State and Washington State. Now they were kind of left out in 485 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.639 the polls, but you know what, the Big twelve is stronger now with 486 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:37.599 the four foreigner schools, and that's your job. And he does I don't 487 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.800 think he feels like you need to apologize to anybody. And with all the 488 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:47.360 hubbub around the ACC, I would I would be I would be nervous if 489 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:55.639 I was a Virginia or I don't know that's one of the other smaller institutions, 490 00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:00.320 one of the schools that's not cleansing Florida State. Right, Yeah, 491 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:04.199 well, thanks so much for joining us. We'll probably talk to you as 492 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.559 we get closer to the game. Yes, thank you guys so much. 493 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.280 Shopping to hop on anytime, all right, appreciate it, Tian, nice 494 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:14.159 to meet Jack. Thank you, Manhattan, Kansas. Yep, Timmy, 495 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.559 ever since you know, I love the guys from there, right, we 496 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.719 could have gone and gotten a guy from the witchitap paper or whatever. You 497 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.000 know they're there, but you know, you know that these guys are embedded 498 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.599 in there, right and uh, you know, very close with so he 499 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.239 was good to have. My apologies to Manhattan. I thought I was in 500 00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:37.840 Lawrence, you know, Steve, I did. 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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio app. This is I 544 00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:01.320 on the Ball with Steve Robera and Jacin Salez on Foxwards fourteen fifty. Hey, 545 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:04.719 welcome back to I the Mall Hero on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 546 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.559 Steve, You're Jay. We have Henry with us, and Henry is ready 547 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.679 to answer the phone. He tried to call earlier. Give us a quick 548 00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:15.719 call back. We're ready for you now, but you know before we went 549 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:21.480 to the break. Yeahs call five THEO four forty and give us a plus 550 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.320 We've covered a lot of stuff today. Yeah, it was good stuff from 551 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:27.880 both sides, with the with the NBA simmer League and now with Tim. 552 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.280 Uh. That's a good story. Good stuff that we're doing, not to 553 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:35.119 pat ourselves on the back of my brick in my head, reaching out to 554 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.800 these people who knew there were stuff better than we do, all right, 555 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.400 Yeah, I mean we're and we're learning too, and so they right because 556 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.559 you know, he couldn't name the people that there's other pieces, but you 557 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:47.440 know it's all it's all fresh, yeah too, Yeah, yeah, no, 558 00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:52.440 it is. And you know, and again there's more and more discussions. 559 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:57.280 You're this stuff about Florida State and Clemson. Yeah, it's getting legs, 560 00:39:57.639 --> 00:39:59.760 right. I mean, somebody brought it up once and it's kind of 561 00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.079 like, you know, don't be surprised if then all of a sudden, 562 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.679 it's like everybody's talking about it. Yeah. And the only thing I've heard 563 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.840 about that that that is that financially it doesn't make sense because one of the 564 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.719 reasons that there they are where that they're pissed off about being in the accsy 565 00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:16.440 not they feel like they're not getting enough money. Sure that they're the two 566 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:21.880 football programs that stick out and they feel like they should be getting more money 567 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:22.559 than the others. Well, what are you going to go to the Big 568 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:27.239 twelve and you're gonna be okay with getting thirty five million dollars a year like 569 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.320 everybody else? You know, what, what are you going to accomplish by 570 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.039 leaving that? Right? You're not going to the SEC, You're not going 571 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.159 to the Big ten. So what are you going to do? Right? 572 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.639 Well, how does it make sense when you feel slighted? I guess that's 573 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.760 part of it. You know, no one's treated me like we should be 574 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.800 treated I don't I don't know, but you're right, though, the piece 575 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:47.599 of the pie is what the piece of the pie is, right, you 576 00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:51.840 know? I mean, is ESPN going to give the Big twelve more money 577 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.840 to bring those two teams into the league when they've already got them in the 578 00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:00.760 ACC because the ACC is also an ESPN contract? Well, why is it? 579 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:06.320 Why would the why would the the Big twelve, you know, put 580 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:07.960 more money? I mean, why would the ESPN put more money in the 581 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.280 Big twelve when all they're doing is movie you know, from one league to 582 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:16.280 another? That are they going to take their shares from the from the ACC 583 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:21.079 contract and put them in the Big twelve contract. But that doesn't make any 584 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.760 sense because again, the whole reason they're not happy is because they feel like 585 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.840 they should be getting more money than the rest of the teams in the ACC 586 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.440 because they bring more, uh more eyeballs, you know, with their football 587 00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.119 program. Yeah, well soon, I think it's gonna be a while before 588 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.199 we hear what's going on. Although that you know, there's like you say, 589 00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:42.159 there's legs to this, Yeah, because there's been some legs for a 590 00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.199 while. Yeah. I mean, I'm just flipping through through social media or 591 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.960 through you know, Twitter during the break and Aaron Torres has put up a 592 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.559 thing that he's promoing by saying, you know, thee this f SCU clems 593 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.760 and stuff is heating up. I'm like, doesn't make any sense. But 594 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.639 what I like him in the league, I don't even know, right, 595 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.800 because we just got rid of USC in Washington and Oregon. Now a sudden, 596 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.840 we want to bring Florida State and Clemson into the league that Arizona is 597 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.519 in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean would you would it improve 598 00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:15.400 the league? Sure? Sure, But all of a sudden, now it's 599 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:19.199 not as it's top heavy again right, right, No, the f SU 600 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:23.199 is not usc but it's but it's but it's something like unefeated last year, 601 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.320 right, so you know it's and then Clemson is no slouch. Right, 602 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.800 So you're thinking, Okay, just when we had a chance to be a 603 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:34.079 title contender, right now, you're gonna bring in two teams. We're gonna 604 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.800 be already you're behind them already, right, So I don't know. I 605 00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:39.559 mean, I guess I wouldn't. I wouldn't say no, don't bring them 606 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:44.000 in because I don't want to have to play those guys. But you know, 607 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.239 I guess I'm not one hundred percent sure of what it adds to the 608 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.719 league, well, you know, and then what it does for the a 609 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.360 SEC. Yeah, I don't know. Credibility probably, yeah, But but 610 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.119 you don't need to create if you're already in. We don't want them. 611 00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.599 I'd like what I here's what I'd like to see, like everything else, 612 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:05.800 like them talking about expanding the the CFP playoff. Let's run this for a 613 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:08.239 while. Let's just run this. Let's go with this, and let's see 614 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:12.119 how what it looks like and how it works. Get you know, if 615 00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.400 it's two years, three years, five years, whatever. You know. 616 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.559 We we went through a lot to get to where we are. Let's see 617 00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.199 how it works, right, you know, Let's get the new car off 618 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:27.119 the lot before we start talking about putting any stereo in it, or some 619 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.639 new tires or you know, a better paint job or whatever. Let's get 620 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.000 it off the damn lot and drive it around for a little while. Look 621 00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:36.440 at you with it now, Like the analogy. Yeah, yeah, you 622 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.840 didn't like mine, but I liked them. I didn't like you mistaking Kansas 623 00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:45.199 for Kansas. Oh yeah, but that was nothing analogy. That was just 624 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.360 it was just a mess food. I don't even know why I thought that, 625 00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.159 because Lawrence is obviously Lawrence, and Manhattan's Manhannen two smallish college sounds. 626 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.199 Yeah, Okay, we have nine minutes. Anybody want to call. If 627 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.960 you guys try to call and get on know, it's your chance. Five 628 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:06.480 two o four. I saw so, so I know I know what you're 629 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.280 talking about with Bill on your note to the about the Dodgers. He had 630 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:15.159 that note on Facebook. Yeah, I see see. We've talked about him 631 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.920 a bit though today. Anyways, in the end, because what Brian called 632 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.719 it, Brian doesn't call it, we don't talk about it, so he 633 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.480 was just checking on me, he said. He texted me. He texted 634 00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:31.360 me after the when they blew the Brian did when they blew the lead in 635 00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:35.199 the in the on Saturday, he texted me and just asked me, are 636 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:37.639 you okay? And I said, I'm golfing, so I have no idea 637 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.199 what's going on? I didn't see it. And then he asked me. 638 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.480 Then again, he texted me again after yesterday's lost. I'm like, I'm 639 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.400 fine, I'm fine. We're at the All Star break. Let's take a 640 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:50.199 break, come back and knock it around. See what happens. They're still 641 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.199 the first place by a bun by I think six or seven games. I'm 642 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:57.519 not too worried about it anyways. So are you gonna watch it Omer and 643 00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:02.159 Derby Night? Probably not. I'm too busy the trying to get your bubble 644 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:07.000 Gum and Scott State for now. I mean, hey, I'm not alone. 645 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.679 There's so many people. All right, let's take this call. Hi, 646 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:15.599 you're on the air and Iron the ball. Hey guys, this change. 647 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:20.199 Hey James, what's top Well, I've been trying to tell you guys 648 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.000 for two years of what's going on. With these batting averages in baseball. 649 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.119 But maybe let me write this down, hold on, go ahead and go 650 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.360 ahead on tap record, So that'd be fun. And I know what I'm 651 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.519 talking about, big boy. Okay, go James. I'm gonna I'm gonna 652 00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:39.679 pay attention this time, all right. It's about probability. It's all about 653 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:46.519 probability of scoring, not getting a hit. The objective is the score getting 654 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:52.400 a bank hit is useless if there's no one off a bank. So that 655 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:58.000 the objective that these general managers have figured this out over the course in the 656 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:05.440 last several years, and there's a higher probability of scoring from a home run, 657 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:10.880 then they're ins from scoring with a walk, a base hit, and 658 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:17.039 a base hit. And so I did those numbers with Jay last year. 659 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.119 If you look at a decent home run hitters, and I hit a home 660 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:28.519 run about seven or eight percent of visit bats, Now that would be a 661 00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:37.840 power hitter, some of them more often. If you take on basementercentages and 662 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:44.840 multiply them one against the other for a succession of three at bats, you're 663 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:52.079 dealing with something in the neighborhood of five percent. So the difference I can 664 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.800 do those numbers for you and be better. You caught me at a bad 665 00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.519 time here today. You're already giving me a headache. But that's okay, 666 00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.679 I feel asleep. Numbers give me a headache, But go ahead. Well 667 00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:07.039 here's the that's what that's what's driving. That's what they're looking at. I 668 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:13.280 get it. It's probability. It's not probability of getting a hit anymore. 669 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:17.760 It's probability of scoring about probability of nobody coming to your games if you don't 670 00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:22.519 generate some excitement aside from an occasional home run. I mean, that's the 671 00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:27.039 probability that I'm that I'm thinking about. I couldn't agree with you more. 672 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:31.599 Let me ask you the warning the game of baseball with this Yeah, and 673 00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:37.840 the other thing driving it, Jay is who gets paid these days? Who 674 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.840 gets paid? The home run is yeah, no, no doubt. So 675 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.719 even the second basement are trying to hit three home runs? Yeah, and 676 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.760 strike to be damned, they don't care. And that's what's happening. Hey, 677 00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:52.840 let me ask you. Let me ask you a detailed question because she's 678 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.599 yawning, But let me ask you a detailed question with this whole thing, 679 00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:00.159 this whole thing with runners on second base at the at you know, in 680 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.280 the when you go into extra innings, if you're if you're the manager. 681 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:07.159 Let's say you're you're the visiting team. Okay, so you've got your guy 682 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.760 on second base, they're gonna have their chance with the goud on second base. 683 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.280 Are you bunting them over or not? It depends on who's coming up. 684 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:22.960 Okay, It's all depends on who's coming up behind it. Okay, 685 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:27.119 let's say your nine hitters on is on second base, and you've got your 686 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.440 lead off here coming up and whatever he's batting, are you go, are 687 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.480 you gonna use your lead off here to bunt him over? I know, 688 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:36.320 I know if your three hitters coming up, or if your four hitters coming 689 00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.719 up, you're not gonna ask them to bunt. But here's what here's where 690 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:43.199 you are. If you if you've bunt them over, then you've got one 691 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:52.159 attempt to drive him in without losing the inning. In other words, he 692 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:58.000 hits the ones that trying to hit us sacrifice by the batter the batter that 693 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:04.800 comes up after the I'm moving them over. Uh. Then you're you're sitting 694 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:08.239 there with two outs and man on third and your number two or three hitters 695 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:13.519 coming up. Those aren't bad odds. You figure the number two or three 696 00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.960 hitter are there for a reason, right, But still that that player has 697 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:20.920 to produce a base hit then to score a run. Yeah, but if 698 00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:22.360 you bun them over, all you need is a sacrifice flywer and in some 699 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.039 cases a ground ball. You just got to hit the ball to score the 700 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:30.079 run. Why why why? They just doesn't seem to think It seem that 701 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.800 they just don't seem to think that it's important to get that at least get 702 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.679 that one run. It's always that we've got to get two or three. 703 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:45.920 What enters their mind, see or J is the other team's got the same 704 00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:51.960 opportunity right after. Okay, I get that. Now, now you're in 705 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:53.559 the bottom of the end. Okay, Now let's say they don't score their 706 00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:58.360 run, right, they don't top of the inny. You got a guy 707 00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.880 on second and there's still not bun him over. What the hell I don't 708 00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.840 I would bunt that guy? Yeah, okay, all right, sorry, 709 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:15.400 I'm up with the tie score bottom ten runner on second base. No starting 710 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.360 up you guys, but my alarm just went off, my wake up call, 711 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.119 So all right, all right, mister, fundamentally. I appreciate it. 712 00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:27.880 Thank you. Is it in the morning already? No, man, 713 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.719 it's just it's a peeve of mine. I mean, nuts, the Dodgers 714 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.480 did that the other day. You want to get the run across the bottom 715 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.840 of the inning, extra innings run around, second game is tied and the 716 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:43.400 swing what are you doing? No, No, that's but that's it's that 717 00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.440 that's old school baseball. I want to smack. It's all the cut that 718 00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:52.599 James Jim was talking about where it's different baseball now. And not that I'm 719 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:54.679 an old school dude, but it's old school. Moving the guy button across, 720 00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:58.159 get the sacrifice, I get him in, and you win the game? 721 00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.719 How novel? Whoa? What a concept? Right, I'm trying to 722 00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:06.760 still stop my arm. Jim, all right, sorry about that. I 723 00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.039 had to get that straight. Jim, as you could tell him, him, 724 00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:12.440 the big baseball guy. Yeah. Uh. And and he, you 725 00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.280 know, uh, pays attention to all of that. And I do to 726 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.719 a degree from the standpoint of what how I think baseball ought to be played. 727 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.880 And and again i'm you know, I'm multiple, you know, a 728 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:28.159 lot of it depends. You know, Look, have you seen this in 729 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.360 actualte grid baseball thing. You haven't seen that. I'll show it to you 730 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:34.440 at some point, but where you're trying to name players. Oh yeah, 731 00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:38.239 you know, different categories and stuff. So m h. I'm with some 732 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:42.320 guys that we do it every day against each other's for of us, and 733 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.440 so it's it's had me thinking about all the old baseball players that I've known 734 00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:50.760 over the years. You know, the the Johnny Benches and the Joe Morgan's 735 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.840 and the Sandy Kofax and Don Drysdale and all those guys, and all those 736 00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:57.920 people come to mind, and I think of baseball from I'm thinking about baseball 737 00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:02.480 from those days every day now because of that, and I that was such 738 00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:05.920 God. I just love those times. Well let me say this. I 739 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:07.639 saw something over the weekend. I don't remember. I don't remember what it 740 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.320 was, but I saw Ron Say in a Cubs jersey right he was playing, 741 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.119 And I'm thinking, when did that happen? Yeah, he went to 742 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:20.400 the for so when they didn't feel broke up in the in the eighties and 743 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.800 the early eighties. Yeah, okay, so say what to Chicago? Uh? 744 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:30.039 Garvey with Garvey went to the Padres David Love stayed with him for a 745 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.599 while, but he ended up like with the Brewers in the short stop. 746 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:38.519 And Bill Russell just retired, okay, because I saw even even Fernando left 747 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:43.199 and he went and pitched for Baltimore, I remember, and some other pitched 748 00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:45.960 for Baltimore and Milwaukee. I don't remember that. You know. I fell 749 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.760 asleep. All those guys, all those guys left, and they and they 750 00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.639 came in with you guys. Well, we gotta go, we gotta go, 751 00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.159 all right, find out what we do later tomorrow. We have another 752 00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.000 show. You see what we did coming in. We have one we have 753 00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:01.559 on Wednesday too, and then Thursday or Friday. All right, Hey, 754 00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.760 be back tomorrow and follow us on the podcast. We'll talk to you tomorrow.