WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:55.320 The following is a presentation of Playfly Sports Properties in Michigan State Sports Properties. 2 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:07.599 Good evening, everybody, Welcome to another show. Today's Thursday, January nineteen, 3 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:11.719 two thousand and twenty three. I'm your host, Jason Storying Gorn along 4 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:19.400 with our co hosts Otis Wiley and jay U. Shoot Shoot, Go Chrick. 5 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:25.200 This is Sparta. But you guys already know that, so it's time 6 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:26.280 to get into it. You know, by the way, thank you for 7 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:30.879 watching. 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We're going to 17 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:16.240 right into it. Because we have a special guest guys for the show. 18 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:22.759 You know a guy. If you're a Spartan fan, you absolutely know him. 19 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:27.400 He played on the office side of the ball, fast guy, very 20 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.759 successful guy, man to the NFL, and now is in the coaching world. 21 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:36.120 We are talking about none of it then, Herb, Hey good? 22 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.719 What's going on? Herb? Hey not much? Man, appreciate you guys 23 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:45.120 having me. What's up? Coach? How you doing doing awesome? Jay? 24 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:53.680 Should we address you as coach? Hey good? Is that what they 25 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:55.520 call you? Yeah? Well, we got a couple of the ones that 26 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:59.319 you know from the Creole called me coach Herb, and I gotta get him 27 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:04.400 just to speak coach. Hey good. You know I'm not right, but 28 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:07.560 yes, coach good. But today it's just her Man, you know, 29 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:14.199 teammates and Spartan for life. That's right, O, Man. I was 30 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:16.560 thinking about it. Man. So when we when we were playing, you 31 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:23.840 were you were you? Boy? Was George Western scholarship back getting finishing up? 32 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:27.759 Which one was it? No? I was actually as a student coach 33 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:30.560 because I left school, Yeah, go and go into the NFL. So 34 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:35.919 I came back to finish my degree during that time. Yeah, and that 35 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:40.120 was with us. That was John Allen or coach first year. Because god, 36 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:44.080 I'm trying to think you know that's what because I remember seeing seeing like 37 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:47.080 hanging your kicking it. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's about two thousand 38 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:51.199 and six of two thousand and seven somewhere around there. So that was that 39 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.520 last John. Yeah, it had to be, because you know that's where 40 00:03:54.520 --> 00:04:00.960 I make a bunch of other guys. Definitely, definitely, definitely I got 41 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:02.800 it. I gotta before jumping in, I gotta say thank you. You 42 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:06.439 know when you were back there as that student manager, as the student coach, 43 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:11.319 you didn't because John had a rule you couldn't go to the bars during 44 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:16.480 the season. And all these other gas we will we would go as players. 45 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.240 We will sneak out, we go to the bars and these gas and 46 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:23.480 not you. That's what I'm thinking. You all these gas will be in 47 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:26.879 line, and they'll be in line, and we'll be we'll get them in, 48 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:31.240 we'll get them drinks, and then they're go telling us the next day 49 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:35.439 were yeah. Yeah, you know college. You know you're supposed to enjoy 50 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:39.519 your time, make sure you stay out of trouble the right exactly. I 51 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:43.240 appreciate you for not telling on us. Yeah, you're doing what you need 52 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:45.639 to do on and off the field. Man, I ain't have no problem. 53 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.199 Yeah, and I'm trying to think. I know you were talking about 54 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:55.199 land sharks. Man. I think the dirty dollar was a thing. Yeah 55 00:04:55.279 --> 00:05:02.519 we uh yeah, the silver dollars salu. Yeah, funny story, man. 56 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.160 We were at the hockey game last weekend. One of our partners, 57 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:12.399 the Army National Guard and uh Tony and Barra. He uh he brought it 58 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:14.680 up. He was like, yo, I used to manage to shill with 59 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:16.439 dollar. We all looked at it, like, man, we just was 60 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:23.959 talking about Yeah. Yeah, I told her for got, Man, there 61 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:25.800 was a guy. Man, if you't know him, Man, you wasn't 62 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:31.519 getting in. Oh yeah, probably was a l A. It was l 63 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:35.360 A l A. You had to be LA. Where is l A. 64 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:40.000 That's gonna know like he's a legend in l A. Yeah I do. 65 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:44.680 I do remember hearing the whispers of the name l A. Yeah, Man, 66 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.360 you had to know him. Man, not getting you're gonna waiting that 67 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:55.199 thing into it clothes right exactly. Speaking of that, he brought up that 68 00:05:55.360 --> 00:06:00.879 big brawl that happened that then caused JU to get his first start as a 69 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:09.040 start because someone was suspended because of this fight at said bar dollar that, 70 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:15.480 so you always at an affinity for the bars. It ain't doing anything to 71 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:21.120 me. So literally, do we know he was out there too? Out 72 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:25.759 there? I was, I was, I was at home. Are you 73 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:32.000 looking at Yeah? Yeah, so I know when I was. When I 74 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:35.920 was coaching UH in Indianapolis. I know you're not connected, and I was 75 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:41.759 trying to get some boys from UH from Naptown over to to you. Uh 76 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.240 when you took over the job of Madonna Man and uh, you know, 77 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:48.360 one, it's obviously good to see one of our own UH in the coaching 78 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:53.079 rings but also leading the program. And you know, you you hit on 79 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.920 it before we started. Man, it's like, you know, no one 80 00:06:55.959 --> 00:07:00.319 really knows what it takes to truly build a program, like we're talking from 81 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:03.680 scratch, like they announced it, Hey we're going to have a football program, 82 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.480 and you are the man that's leading this charge. And you know, 83 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:11.800 man, send some light into what you're dealing with and what you're managing right 84 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.319 now and obviously building a future for about university. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 85 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:19.879 And actually I'm actually the second head coach. We had a coach here 86 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:26.560 previously and then he chose to take another job down to Capitol University. So 87 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:32.600 my current president, former ad you know, came to me and asked me, 88 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:34.800 you know, if I was in our expanding head coach, and I 89 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:40.319 took it over from there. It's a little bit different where Anyia. Even 90 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:44.720 though we offer scholarships just like Division two, the difference is they have thirty 91 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:48.319 six. We have twenty four and try to spread those among the one hundred 92 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:53.839 and thirty plus kids that we're trying to have on a roster. But yeah, 93 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:57.920 going from you know, ordering helmets, you know, finding a place 94 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:03.439 to play. We're in in a conference called the Mid States Football Conference. 95 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:09.720 It's football only with schools here in Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois. But 96 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.120 you know, building program from scratches. It's not only you know, bringing 97 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.040 in football players, but you also got to start a band, you got 98 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.920 to have cheer and dance. So that's added you know, probably three hundred 99 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:24.680 plus students to the university, you know, So it's a lot that goes 100 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.040 into it. Wow, man, I know, I was at the National 101 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:35.519 Football Foundation and running corporate partnerships and they had this campaign that was called Football 102 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:41.480 Matters and it was. It was more so of attacking I guess the stigma 103 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:43.960 of you know, you you get hurt, you get cushions, and you 104 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:48.240 know, mothers were not letting their sons play. But they put this campaign 105 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:52.960 together and it starts off with like the band on the field, and then 106 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.679 it says, so what happens if football is no longer being played and they 107 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:00.080 just shut the lights off and it's showing like the band, the cheers of 108 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.720 the dance, you know, athletic training, everything that goes under that football 109 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:09.039 truly supports. It's kind of crazy to obviously hear you you're doing that day 110 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.080 to day to build up, build it up. Yeah, yeah, definitely 111 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:18.840 when you say that, we do so much. And a lot of people 112 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:24.879 say football is a front porch or the front porch of any university and in 113 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:31.159 building that is truly that's true. We've had people that come to games that 114 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.879 homecoming. Our homecoming used to be at a soccer game, and this year 115 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.919 was the last two years have been where we had many people come back. 116 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.320 This year will be the first year that we actually have homecoming on campus. 117 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:50.120 With the new stadium being built with partnering with a gold Star Mortgage so yeah, 118 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.159 a ton of stuff goes into it. You know, my job is 119 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:56.360 to keep pushing and and and take what I learned. And really, if 120 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:00.639 you look at my program, it's similar to what we were talked by coach 121 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.480 Saban no gray area. You know, you go to work every day and 122 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:09.240 that's what we're doing here. Yeah, talking about that. So obviously you 123 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.159 came from ses Soda, right, correct, Florida. Yeah, the best 124 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.720 best player to come out of Sarah so that that played in Michigan State. 125 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.159 Yeah, we got a ton of we got I felt like I feel like 126 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.679 the folks. I feel like the players that came through from Braandington always claimed 127 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:37.799 that they were Sarasota to like you know me and my wards. They do. 128 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:39.799 But you know a lot of people don't remember. The first one to 129 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.639 come was actually it was not imp it was Luke Vinson. I don't know 130 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.919 if you remember that name that straight. Oh yeah, he was a the 131 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:52.440 quarterback turned safety safety. Yeah, like defense, the the problem defense right 132 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.759 now, selling secret. I don't know what Luke's doing. Yeah, he 133 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:00.600 was always entertaining dude, man. Yeah, Luke, it's the first an 134 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.000 you got amp camp to come up. And then me and then of course, 135 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:09.279 you know, said Henry Marcus Waters, Jason Bradley, Neil my Award. 136 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.159 I mean I can keep going on on all the guys that came out 137 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.399 of there. So wow, that's incredible. Man. Family to all family, 138 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:24.799 well, because that's my cuz, right. So talk about like the 139 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.519 preparation that you've had, because I haven't you know, you know, guys 140 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.600 who coach football you see as it go all the way up and down the 141 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.480 ranks of it, but never have I really seen. I don't. It's 142 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.879 rare to see somebody that actually builds a program from the ground up that has 143 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.960 your experience, the NFL experience. Obviously you played for Nick sab and still 144 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:48.519 have a great relationship with him. Talk about how that time prior to getting 145 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.639 into this role as a coach has prepared you, because this is like a 146 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.919 CEO on steroids in my opinion, Yeah it is. And I just take 147 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:00.639 it back. You know, from my beginning of portional play for been all 148 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:03.840 around, playing in the CFL, NFL, CFL, NFL, Europe Arena 149 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.879 football, and then my wife like, hey, your career started up here, 150 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.200 so like you're going down here. I think it's time to go back 151 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.960 to school. So I went back to school, and I was fortunate enough 152 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:18.399 to be under you know, coach Tredwell, who was one of my mentors, 153 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.120 you know, so kind of followed him around and believe it or not, 154 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:28.200 my I started all of at college, but my my first full time 155 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:33.919 position was at Saginaw Valley and it was through coach is. The coach is 156 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.720 Tho's roommate in college was a guy by the name of Randy Orri who was 157 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:43.000 the head coach at Saganaw. So this was where the relationships come in and 158 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.080 the how you are as a player or student at your current you know, 159 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.639 school or whatnot. Coach is Tho, you know, you know, thought 160 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:54.320 about me. He knew I was getting the coach and knew coach or He 161 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.000 was looking for a receivers coach. So I went down there for a few 162 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:03.919 years prior to coach tread while getting a head job at at Miami of Ohio. 163 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.840 So Saginaw to Miami of Ohio, then left there, went to Indiana 164 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:15.200 University with Kevin Wilson, who most recently was not head count but offense coordinated 165 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:20.240 Ohio State. Left there and spent five years at Eastern Michigan university. And 166 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:26.559 really the time I spent at Eastern Michigan kind of groomed me for this position 167 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.960 here. I say that because Eastern was a place where you haven't won for 168 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.559 a long time. Coach Crayton came in, you know, started a thing 169 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.399 where we had to find players that have believe in what we were trying to 170 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:45.000 do and started from scratch where really no one in Michigan wanted to go there, 171 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.799 so we had to go outside of Michigan to recruit kids. And if 172 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:54.440 you see my roster, I kind of took that same blueprint and went outside 173 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:00.120 to get football players to come here to Michigan. What we we're looking for, 174 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:05.080 same thing. Coach Savan kind of taught us guys that want to compete 175 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.879 on and off the field, that loves football. Really is that simple. 176 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:11.600 We found those guys, so we got our core pieces right now, and 177 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.840 now with the stadium being bill, we're starting to get more of the local 178 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:18.399 talent that wants to time and try to join us to build a statement. 179 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:30.519 Wow, that's my mind. That's crazy, that's for sure. Yeah. 180 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.519 So you you know you're talking about, you know, going out and finding 181 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:35.840 these kids, and we all know we've been in this position here and something. 182 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.080 You know, like you said, you played it and you came back 183 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:43.639 and you got your degree and everything like that. You know, from through 184 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.960 conversations you and I have talked about, you know, coming in and working 185 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.799 with your athletes and everything like that from more of the career side of things, 186 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.799 like can you just explain you know, because these kids, you know, 187 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.799 they're coming in and playing an nai A, you know, that's still 188 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.120 good football. That people still have to understand that you're if you're playing at 189 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:05.000 the next level, you're still playing good football. But you know, why 190 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.679 should a kid come to you know, this program here, because the way 191 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.320 I see it is you're you're molding these kids for everything for on the field 192 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:16.759 and off the field and after life. Yeah, definitely, definitely I would 193 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.919 say this. So I love my time at Michigan State. One of the 194 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:26.039 things I look back on that I wish I would have did more was things 195 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:31.200 outside of football. So not it wasn't just football, training, training table, 196 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:35.960 study hall, hung out with the boys now here at and Madonna. 197 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:39.360 What we try to do it is a family, a huge family, a 198 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.960 lot of support from administration. But my thing here is I wanted to make 199 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:46.000 this one of the greatest experiences of their life. Prior to those guys that 200 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.320 getting married and having kids, what does that look like? We just had 201 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.279 a marvelus king event. I want our kids there, you know, doing 202 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.360 all of that. I want our kids. We we played Missouri Baptists, 203 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.200 so we stopped at Indiana State to practice. We went down to Saint Louis 204 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.960 to the Golden Arch, or not the Golden but the Arch, Saint Louis 205 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:14.480 Arch because some of those kids have never experienced that stuff linked. So finding 206 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:17.679 different things that they can do outside of football. And then on top of 207 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:22.240 having internships since we're in a great location, kind of helps me in recruiting, 208 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:27.840 kind of helps me, you know, broading each kid or each individual 209 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:33.679 to do better things. So location wise, two hundred and thirty thousand student 210 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:40.639 students in the thirty minute ratus, twenty five minutes from Canada, so there's 211 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:44.840 a lot of great things that they can accomplish here, on top of having 212 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:49.000 a job when they leave or graduate here. I was waiting on Jayu to 213 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:52.919 tell you something about when you said Canada, man, I was like I 214 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.960 was, I was looking for my flag. It's not within arms reach, 215 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:03.159 right, now, well, when I when I literally say that we recruit 216 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.960 from all over, I can have a kid from Hawaii, a kid from 217 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:11.240 Alaska, kid from Las Vegas, a bunch of kids from Florida, Georgia, 218 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:17.279 Louisiana. We recruit all over, so we find a guy that loves 219 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:22.160 football and want to compete. That's what we're looking for. And be quite 220 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.160 honest with It's quite easy for us now because of the transfer portal. The 221 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:33.880 transfer portal has allowed smaller schools to get better players and better students, you 222 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:37.119 know, moving forward. So that's where we are right now, is getting 223 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.680 those students and players to add to our guys that we have. Yeah, 224 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.000 I guess, oh yeah it is man. So you know the ever changing 225 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:49.079 landscape of now. You know, we always talk about an addressed n L 226 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:55.839 and you know, when you're going in and recruiting and you know, talking 227 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:59.720 to families and you can talking to these kids and you know, selling a 228 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.359 pro around. You know, what are some things that you are are dealing 229 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:07.279 with on a day day basis as you kind of change your pitch and sales 230 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:11.960 pitcher to get these guys to come and commit to Madonna. Yeah, one 231 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.319 of the biggest things is if I come to your school, can I come 232 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:21.400 there and transfer out? You know, really like they usually as a stepping 233 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:25.519 stone versus like yeah, long term? What to sell that? Yep, 234 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:30.599 yep, you so kids, you know? Or can I can I make 235 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:34.039 it to the NFL from here? And answer? Of course you guess you 236 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:41.400 know to both those questions. If you're good enough, you can either you 237 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.200 know, people can come get you if if you're one of those players, 238 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.519 but you can make it to the NFL from here. Just the other day, 239 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.400 you know, from an NFL team looking at some of our players, 240 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:57.000 who has the ability to play at the next level, be quite honest with 241 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:02.279 you looking for film, They got to be able to play. So one 242 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:06.720 of the things I guess I sell is the opportunity to play early and be 243 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.759 quite honest with you and stray. I don't know if you experienced this from 244 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:15.279 Coach Saving and recruiting, but you were a pearlist guy, right Yep. 245 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.920 Well, one of the things Coach Savan told me and I recruit just like 246 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:25.400 this, So it doesn't matter if I'm Division one two or ANYI I literally 247 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:29.039 tell my players this. This is what was told to me by Coach Saving 248 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.480 and I'll never forget it. He's like, I'm always gonna be looking to 249 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:37.920 replace it. So some people running from that. I told my team that 250 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:42.000 I'm always looking to replace you. But then he came back and said, 251 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:47.279 in high school, there's always a no recruiting class. In college is all 252 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:48.640 well, in high school, there's always a new freshman class. In college, 253 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.440 there's always a recruiting class. In the pros, there's always new draft. 254 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.680 So if you're not doing everything you can on and off the field to 255 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:00.039 be the best player you can be, you've got to get replaced. So 256 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.440 competition, and I know it's sraight you've been around coach. He talks about 257 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:08.920 competition all the time. So if our players know that, yeah, I 258 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.240 took pride in that. You know, I host Plex, I host Charles 259 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:17.079 Rogers. You know t right, They'll tell you. I didn't care who 260 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.279 I had the host. I wanted to make it make sure our team was 261 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:26.880 good. I lined up next to Gary Scott and Charles Rogers every day in 262 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:30.680 sprints because I wanted to compete. And that's how I'm trying to build this 263 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:34.000 team here is to compete. Compete, compete, So that's one of my 264 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:40.119 selling pictures. I tell parents we're going to be looking replacement, but I 265 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:45.119 go into the whole situation of why, and a lot of parents, you 266 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.240 know, they like the fact that I'm being honest, and you know, 267 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:51.680 well, if you work your butt off, you won't get replaced, right, 268 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:59.839 So exactly fact the recruiting pitch here and everything like that, Like you 269 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.920 know, you you've been in there. Now you you got your legs under 270 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:04.839 you there? What are you what are you running offense? Because an offensive 271 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:07.920 guy, you know, being a wide receiver, are you just air raiding 272 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:11.400 or you're like, Okay, I gotta take a step back. I gotta 273 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:14.799 run the ball in order so I can throw it. What what do you 274 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:17.680 do offensively? Yeah, I would tell you. The first year, you 275 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:18.960 know, I was more, you know, I wanted to throw the ball 276 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:22.880 because of course, the linemen that we had, we didn't really have time. 277 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:27.079 Man, we had to get that thing out quick. Now I have 278 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:34.839 a new coordinator as of last year, Coach ed Stolts, who ironically I 279 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:38.039 work with at MIAs Ohio with coach Stratt, so he was our old line 280 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:42.720 coach there and you know, uh, he was gone to retire and he's 281 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:47.799 like you know, everybody come up there and help you get things severed down 282 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:53.799 and organized. And I do two things. It's really it's about the players, 283 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:56.720 but it's also about the young coaches that we have on our staff. 284 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:02.599 So I tell guys that they should now want to be here forever. My 285 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:06.920 job is to get those guys to elevate to the next level. And Coach 286 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:11.799 still sees that. So we're trying to coach up our young coaches and give 287 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:17.039 them nuggets as well. So offensively, we're more of a pro style now, 288 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:18.559 so we do a little bit of both. You know, we'll spread 289 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.400 them up we have to, but we want to run the ball. And 290 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.799 then defensively, we switched from a three four to a four to three and 291 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:33.440 uh, this year is going to be more of a mixture. So I 292 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:41.039 want to keep out two mins in CA. Yeah, elevan three income come 293 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:47.839 look, don't give up the trade. So we'll be multiple defense, whatever 294 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:52.200 fits and personnel or the game we'll get into. The biggest thing is it 295 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:53.319 stopping to run. You know, we couldn't do that a year ago, 296 00:22:55.920 --> 00:23:00.440 but now we're recruiting to make sure that we stopped to run and afford in 297 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:04.319 that fashion. So you bring up an interesting then we brought up coach Saban, 298 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:07.480 right and how what he said to you at that time. And you 299 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:12.599 know a lot of people, even myself included his style originally, especially talking 300 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:18.000 about the young Nick Saban back back then, right ninety five, you know 301 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.880 to ninety ninety thousands. That was a different Nick Saban than you see today. 302 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.000 But talk about like how that like, hey, look, we're looking 303 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.200 to replace you versus the guy that you we all know now that will do 304 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:36.680 anything for his ex his former players, including helping out you want to with 305 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:41.359 with the coaching staff. Yeah, I'll tell you this, not only coach 306 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.640 Saban, but coach Coach D. Coach D came down here last summer and 307 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:49.680 spent about three hours on campus. But Coach Saban every summer he meets with 308 00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:56.200 our staff to talk about if you're talking about football, he would go on 309 00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:57.559 and on, Like we were supposed to meet with him for an hour, 310 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:02.680 he d being like two and a half hour. So if it's talking about 311 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:07.079 football and nothing else, he'll do that all day long. And then currently 312 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:12.240 hopefully uh he hasn't said no yet. Uh He's gonna be the key, 313 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:17.960 you know, speaker slash player in our golf out here, uh this year, 314 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:21.920 so kind of waiting to hear back on that. But he does everything. 315 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.559 And a little funny thing about coach is this, Uh he used to 316 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:33.680 call me missus Hagen. I used to call him a saving and straight you'll 317 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:38.640 you'll know that he loved his Florida guys starting with Iran, right, Mark 318 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:42.319 Nard, you know those guys, right, So if he walked past me, 319 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:48.480 I wouldn't allow him to just walk past me like he's he's busy, 320 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:56.319 miss saving you on that today. Yeah, yeah, you get his attention. 321 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:02.960 I am miss You're gonna be like that, uh, I think, 322 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:06.119 Yeah, I didn't know that that was actually a rule, you know, 323 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:07.759 because when he was in Michigan State doing it, everybody thought he just had 324 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.599 an attitude problem, right yeah, yeah, yeah, And now we found 325 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.519 out that it's some kind of a rule that he has with his teams that 326 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:18.680 he tells me. Well, people tell them, hey, don't talk to 327 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:26.119 coach when coaches in the hallway. I couldn't do that. So yeah, 328 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.160 it's just like you know, like, you know, j just learned that 329 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:34.880 you know, I played played running back right, and uh, funny story 330 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:40.640 about that. My first visit here was to Michigan State warmers. Heck right, 331 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:45.720 in December, go down to Ohio State. I'm with Seawan Springs and 332 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:51.400 Orlando Pace. Right, they're taking me around, they're guaranteed for and my 333 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:56.279 host was Mike. Whiley take me around, they got me waiting in the 334 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.920 snow. I go back to the hotel. I called coach Saban and say 335 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:12.920 coach is a warmer Michigan in Ohio. He's like yes, And then of 336 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:17.440 course am't gonna back them up, you know, back yeah, man, 337 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:22.599 you'll be good. So you'll be good. Oh that's right. That is 338 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:26.039 that is the true inside, you know, because a lot of people like 339 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.759 these stories. You're talking about coach saving and stuff. Like a lot of 340 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.599 our listeners, you know, from the outside looking in, he looks like, 341 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:34.200 you know, just a scowl, hard ass kind of guy. But 342 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:38.119 it's really cool to hear the inside stories that, you know, how he 343 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.839 can relate to his players and everything. You know. I I tell people 344 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.279 this, and I tell my my my players and our staff did. There 345 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:49.000 was no gray area, right, So you either win the class or you 346 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.799 didn't. You either went twelve yards or you're in a gap where you're supposed 347 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.440 to be or you didn't. It's like you knew if you went outside of 348 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:02.839 that, there's gonna be consequences, you know, unless you uh Hubert Thompson 349 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:08.759 boo boo man or uh well, anybody on that D lie. You know, 350 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:18.119 I'm always the d liven that because it all they try to tell you. 351 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:21.960 They don't deny it. I just noticed we had a guy man that 352 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.880 hurt his ankle in preseason and said I'm not playing anymore and still drafting first 353 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:37.759 round. Yeah right, still drafting first first round. Or we're doing the 354 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:44.200 one tens in coach saving his own Robert smells you need to run, and 355 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:51.960 he's like, huh man, well, you know, I know I've talked 356 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:53.400 about this all the time, but you really you know that they cut all 357 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:59.400 that out now cause yeah, so you don't do any conditioning to us. 358 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.640 Oh no, we do it, we do it, we do. We're 359 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.400 still doing the fourth quarter program. When I say I am, I'm down 360 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:11.880 to the deuch Manning right, yeah with coach Manning and you know Lorenzo's up 361 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.559 there. He's been helping me out. We can't keep our guys over the 362 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:22.640 summer, so I have to have something for those guys to come back and 363 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:27.440 shape. So we do absolutely have to do the test because they could be 364 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:34.039 out there fluffing. We do the one ten tests, one ten, We 365 00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:40.039 do the one tangent in sixteen sixteen? How much? What's the time? 366 00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:45.440 Yeah, what's the time? Forty five seconds? Five different than that sixties 367 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:52.839 sixties you know, say it again, sixty seconds, No, it's forty 368 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.759 five. Big man got eighteen. Then it goes down. I think I 369 00:28:55.799 --> 00:29:00.680 think the skill is it's fourteen or fifteen. Yeah, skills fifty Yeah, 370 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:06.200 So we do skill break. Just all mind I made all minds, so 371 00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:14.119 don't you I was not doing that. The next day it was fourteen fourteen, 372 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:18.200 right, so you know it's skilled, big skill power and do this. 373 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.400 So what if you have a what if you have a tweeter? Right, 374 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:22.680 you got to tell back, who's like, you know what? Two 375 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:30.720 fifty five can't run with the big boy skill, the big big boy. 376 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:37.640 Yeah he knows, he knows. So but I will tell you this. 377 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.400 The first year, we may have had five people passing mm hmm, you 378 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.319 know, and I actually had to cut it short. You know, they 379 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.480 wouldn't want to catch a case. That's what you didn't want to catch a 380 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.839 case. So it was it was bad and I had had my president out 381 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:57.680 there, you know. And this year when they came back, they knew, 382 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.039 right, you know, some of the freshmen that came in they didn't, 383 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:04.839 they didn't take it as serious. But the core group they passed a 384 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:11.640 thing with flying colors and it's mind over matter, right, So our guys 385 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.839 know even now today was the first day of the fourth quarter program. You 386 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:21.759 got that manual. You got that manual. Oh man, if you look 387 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.519 at coach Saban, they got shirts just like it. When I say, 388 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.680 you know, it is the same, Yeah, you know what I mean. 389 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:36.440 Look at yeah, you look at coach saving shirts. It's the same 390 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.759 he got me. And I think it's a model that that that's working pretty 391 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:48.079 well. So why not you know, you know it intrinsically like the way 392 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.799 that the way that you do now you know, talk about like, so 393 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.519 you have this new program, you've got a stadium that's being built, if 394 00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.279 I'm not mistaken, right, So you got a lot of things you're doing 395 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:04.559 from the name of fundraising something that people that are listening out there that may 396 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:10.240 be able to help, or something fund that people can contribute to Yeah, 397 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:15.400 we always looking for the thing I think about smaller schools. You know, 398 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:21.759 you gotta raise money, and it's it's for things like you know, we 399 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.079 don't do We don't give them any travel shoes. So I got to find 400 00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:26.599 a way to do that, you know, travel suits. I have to 401 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.680 go out and raise money just for all of my guys who look the same. 402 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:36.599 Right. This is the first time since Madonne didn't have football. Even 403 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:40.200 when we do team meals, you know, got to raise money for team 404 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:44.319 mills when we go on the road so we can eat, as you guys 405 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:48.599 know, and and we kind of, I guess as players didn't even think 406 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.960 about, you know, where are the money coming from and all this stuff 407 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.599 when we go to hotels. I wanted these guys to have the same experience 408 00:31:55.640 --> 00:32:00.599 I have in Michigan State to have here. So we do everything at the 409 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:06.880 hotel before all the other teams they go to Golden Corral or you know, 410 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.240 get him to his money and just let them go off, you know, 411 00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:15.000 in the streets. And imagine having a you know, eighty kids on away 412 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.480 game. Just hey, here's twenty one dollars and go find you something to 413 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.559 eat, you know, so and you get about thirty five of them back 414 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.920 at thirty five and you know, don't know what they're eating, right, 415 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.519 so raise the money, you know for that. The stadium is unique. 416 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.920 So about a year ago, like tonight, we got a basketball game going 417 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:42.240 on tonight, our men's soccer coach coach Z and say, hey, man, 418 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.000 I got a guy that, uh that wants to build a stadium, 419 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.400 but I need to get him meet with the president. Of course, my 420 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.960 ears perked up, like that meeting next week, and they say, what, 421 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.799 yeah, we'll have the meeting next week. And he thought I was 422 00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:02.519 joking. And to the credit of our president, President Ian Day, Uh, 423 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.359 we set that meeting up. And it's been a year process, uh, 424 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.839 you know, meeting and trying to figure out what's best for both Madonna 425 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:16.200 and gold Star. And the team is called GoldStar Detroit and they also have 426 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:23.319 a team over in Spain, so so it's really unique. It's actually no 427 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.160 money from the university, is it's all, you know, funded by gold 428 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.839 Star. You know, he got a billionaire and similar to that issue. 429 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:37.759 Man, if you're listening, come on over, but I need you you 430 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.880 and my team, man, come talk to our team. Yeah, you 431 00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:44.759 know, we got a whole nother building that football wasn't that we need to 432 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:49.359 get finished and wait for things. Uh. But this billionaire came in and 433 00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:53.000 he's building the stadium. So they'll have a team here, uh, starting 434 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:58.119 here the next couple of months. And it's good for the university. Not 435 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.400 only it's good for football, but well we'll start and have our our graduations 436 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:07.400 here on campus instead of having to rent out different places. When you're thinking 437 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.360 about winter condition, how much money in the universe is putting out for us? 438 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:14.480 We got twenty two teams where each team has to find somewhere to go 439 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:20.320 practice in the winter time. Now we'll have this building here this time next 440 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:27.079 year where they'll put a bubble on top of the stadium. So it's saving 441 00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:31.039 up the universal a lot of money, how you said, as a former 442 00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:37.840 as a former fundraiser obviously at Michigan State, got start there and crossed over 443 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.599 to go to SMU, and you know, you know how much capital projects, 444 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.639 you know cost. You know, it's not just putting the stadium up. 445 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.360 It's about the land, it's about the digging, it's about everything else 446 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.800 under the sun. But like, how much how much was the total you 447 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.679 know, process of evaluate that that project and you know, yeah, it's 448 00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:01.280 going there, like go ahead, well it's one donor. Yes, what 449 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.280 I'm saying, one donor, but like it allowed him to do everything. 450 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.079 But like what was that total ask? After you guys kind of walked through 451 00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:12.119 it, you know, it's it's twelve to fifteen million, you know, 452 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:17.320 twelve to fifteen million and actually still growing because we just met yesterday. And 453 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.639 there's all the things that we need to add to make sure that it's it's 454 00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:27.760 it's not just a soccer saying a football need right small things so for instance, 455 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.119 roll away or we have to remove the gold posts, right, that 456 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.239 costs pretty painting to remove the gold posts. Every time. We have a 457 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.760 machine that's gonna paint the other field called turf team. You know that's like 458 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:49.280 yeah, yeah, but that's about sixty seventy thousand dollars there you have that. 459 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.199 You got another machine that needs to wash off this stuff. So that's 460 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:57.719 another fifty thousand or so to get that machine. But in the long run, 461 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.920 it's gonna save us money. So making sure the feel is good for 462 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:07.880 us as well as them. Again, we have a football building in the 463 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:13.239 back that's not complete. Uh, and I'll say this. Before football got 464 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.719 here, there was not a weight It was a fitness center, but it 465 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:22.519 wasn't the racks and stuff that football players need uh to get to get built. 466 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.800 So what do you have to do? We had to go raise we 467 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:30.480 football had to go raise that money to get tim racks in here. You're 468 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.159 going to be meeting with you know, some Michigan State people. See, 469 00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:36.360 yeah, I was about to put that plug for you because I know it's 470 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:40.880 coming up. Yeah. Well all that equipment is about to be new equipment 471 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:45.760 coming in. So that's the opportunity to you. We need all of that. 472 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.559 So whoever's listening, we we would love to have it. We'll come 473 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:55.159 pick it up in the U haul. Coach when you said when when you 474 00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:59.920 said you had the you know the guy, the soccer coach came up to 475 00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:02.320 you, what the what the idea of this guy wants to build a soccer 476 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.280 stadium? And your ears perked up. He said, how much convincing the 477 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.840 university did you have to do? Or what? Was it just an easy 478 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:15.599 ask and say hey, this is what's gonna be. It wasn't much that 479 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:23.239 the biggest thing was what do they want? Right? Why would this guy 480 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:30.760 want to just you know, put this money towards this pro this process. 481 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.639 Well, the biggest thing I do you know, you're not paying for the 482 00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.000 land, right, So we got to deal with him where you know, 483 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:42.719 they're building the stadium. It's I think beleave is a fifty year least, 484 00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:47.599 right, So he has he has a lot of ben Now if if the 485 00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.880 program or the soccer program doesn't you know, you know, gain what they 486 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:58.000 think he's going to gain. Uh. There's a by clause that is beneficial 487 00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.920 for Madonna to own the stadium out right. So there's a lot of benefit 488 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.559 on both parts of it. Uh. And it saves them a ton of 489 00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.599 money and in and again if it doesn't work out, it's a huge writer 490 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:15.000 for for him. Right. So is this terf for grass It is. 491 00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.280 It's actually gonna be turf. The turf is actually going to be eight inches 492 00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.159 thick. Uh. It's the only one in America. There's only two other 493 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:28.639 stadiums in the world that has it. So when when Dan does things, 494 00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.639 he does it to the best of his He wants to make sure this is 495 00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.199 a showstop. There's some details I can't share with you, but when you 496 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.639 see the stadium, like God, that that's that's different, but it's unique. 497 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.000 It's going to be one of a kind of stadium once it's done. 498 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:51.280 Yeah, that's incredible. Man. When you look at the profession, right, 499 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.119 like, coaching is tough, it's a tough way to go. I 500 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.920 mean they have a lot of friends that are former players that are in it, 501 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.960 and so you know, going through battles just kind of raised, you 502 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:05.920 know, their level, their profile as they continue through their career. What 503 00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:10.039 is it that you see yourself as do you what's your goal, let's say 504 00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:16.239 in coaching, is it to grow Madonna into a power or or do you 505 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.599 look at like, okay, what my skills may be best suited in other 506 00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.119 levels because he's played in them all and coach by the way, Yeah, 507 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:30.119 yeah, definitely. And the crazy thing is like once people found out that 508 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:34.159 I was here, I've been offered other position, making probably three or four 509 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.559 times that I'm making here. You know some of the stuff in the beginning, 510 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.920 I didn't talk to my wife about it. I just turned it down. 511 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:52.400 So that wasn't a good at all. But you know, for for 512 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:59.440 me, my wife and actually it's going to be twenty years here on March 513 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:08.679 first. Congratulations, my wife has has sacrificed so much of you know, 514 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:13.920 moving to Denver, moving to Andy, moving to Kansas City, moving to 515 00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:19.559 Europe, going to Canada. Uh, doing everything I can to to make 516 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.440 my dream come true. Right Arena football. As I started going down, 517 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.639 say babe, you got to quit your job. We're going to Tampa, 518 00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:30.000 you know. And she she's done all of that stuff. And then even 519 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:35.039 with coaching, you know, just moving different places. Uh, this is 520 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:40.079 the longest place we've been. And she's currently she's she's she's at the other 521 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.880 school Michigan, working in HR and she's in her dream position right now. 522 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:52.559 So and ultimately, I wanted to be a head coach, and I didn't 523 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.960 originally wanted to be at a startup program, but you know, why not, 524 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.199 right, why not be here? And why not you know, make 525 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:05.039 this into a place that everybody wants to come to. And it's starting to 526 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.960 happen. You know, I think we can win here. We got great 527 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:13.800 support here, we got great degrees here, we got people from mentioning Terricane 528 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.119 in our business department. Uh, just so many professors, man, that 529 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:23.119 absolutely love Madonna and what we have to offer. Sister Nancy, who who 530 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:28.440 just pours into too, all of us. And the thing is, you 531 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.880 know, even though it's a Catholic university, you don't have to be Catholic 532 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.360 to be here, you know, as long as you you know, you're 533 00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.800 doing the right things and you believe in some of the stuff that we're trying 534 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.880 to trying to do here. So I want to be a head coach. 535 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:46.880 If it happens at another university sometime later, you know, we'll look at 536 00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:51.400 some of those things. But right now we're trying to build the thing into 537 00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:53.920 a powerhouse, and I believe we can do it. You know, runs 538 00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:59.480 the Canadian get the support, we raise the funds to make sure that my 539 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:05.079 team is uh not wanting it for anything. Well, is there any yeah, 540 00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.519 is there some way that people can get a hold of you if they 541 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.840 want to donate, Yes, if they want to donate, of course. 542 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:17.039 My email right away is just first initial, H. Hey, good, 543 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:22.400 last name at Madonna dot edu. We'll put that in the link right there 544 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.880 so people can see it. It will be right there. Yeap. Our 545 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:34.119 number here is seven three four there it is yeah really quick. Uh yeah, 546 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.880 yeah h A good at Madonna dot E D is probably like the easiest 547 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.480 way to get a hold of me. Yeah, and then we put your 548 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:49.039 number out there, people be calling him. I know, it's like I'm 549 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:53.559 hiring a defensive coordinator. Man, it's it's it's blowing up. So but 550 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:59.559 but yeah, any support that we can have, you know, I love 551 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.039 it. And end of the day, man, I just want to make 552 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:07.199 sure our guys have a great experience and you earn a degree and hopefully one 553 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.719 day get invited to their weddings. So one thing that you that you said, 554 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:14.800 you know that you're stuck with it, and it's been sticking with me 555 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.320 for a second. Now. You said your your your wife, you know, 556 00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:22.280 works for the school down there. She mm hmm, Like she's not 557 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:28.079 doctrinated in that. She still we tell We tell people all the time man, 558 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:32.760 you know, uh, blue and yellow makes green and if they don't 559 00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:36.719 hear it from that, we always say they still pay in green and white. 560 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.920 So we let people know that right away. Okay, you know, 561 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.519 we just went to the women's basketball game is saturday, Michigan State in U 562 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:53.360 of M. I. Yeah. It was hard because our boys was cheering. 563 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:59.199 It was a good time, but they were cheering from wrong. Yeah, 564 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.800 so we're like, but we want them to have a good time. 565 00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:06.360 They're six and four right now, right, they don't know, man, 566 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:12.480 I know my youngest he's the Lions fans too, right, so he's been 567 00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:19.159 going yeah, he's been going crazy. So no, man, she she 568 00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:23.400 she's over there. They actually our neighbor used to be. My wife worked 569 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:29.519 at Indiana when we're there in HR and then our neighbor was at Michigan and 570 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:37.920 she recruited my wife too to come. Mm hmm. That's incredible man, 571 00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:40.440 and man like that. You know, we don't want to take them a 572 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.280 lot of your time. I know, you got to go meet with the 573 00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:52.960 musicipalities and you know we're always fundraising, man, always fund raising. This 574 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:57.159 is the part that people don't don't see that the head coaches you have to 575 00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.960 go out and do it. But I enjoy right, I enjoyed it. 576 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:05.599 And a lot of that stuff has come from being around you know, coaches, 577 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.320 seeing how you move straight and just wanted to, you know, to 578 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:13.280 do that. So appreciate all you guys. Man, I'm proud of what 579 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:15.760 you guys are doing, and like super proud of what you guys doing. 580 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:22.639 You know, we're super proud of you. Man. Definitely, we might 581 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:23.920 come up to the game. Now we're want to come up to the game 582 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.239 so that support support. Man, you're gonna you're gonna have to. Man, 583 00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.440 you're gonna gonna have to. Man, we'll love get that sideline passes. 584 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.480 I would I guess I can say this. We will have vi I 585 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:45.960 P suites, will have vi P suite and it'll be a unique experience in 586 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:51.079 those VIP suite because you haven't seen them the way they're getting built. Oh 587 00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.880 man, important question, are y'all serving are y'all servant beer one in the 588 00:45:55.119 --> 00:46:02.079 venue? Probably not not at our football games, but at the soccer games. 589 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:06.159 They will. Now we do have a tailgate where we don't see we 590 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:12.280 do off Red, gotcha, we have we have a tailgate. There's this 591 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.159 is what's really crazy about Donne. There's been guys that have been working here 592 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.639 twenty thirty years that's been hoping for a football team. And we got a 593 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:24.000 guy that's on campus man that he he has a a trailer in the back 594 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.280 decked out. This is his his theme. Right, So the parents, 595 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:36.119 uh, anybody that want to come. It got so big. So it 596 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:43.000 started off about four people, right, threw the two three hundred people and 597 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:51.280 now the university is behind it in the parking lot. Man. And so 598 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.199 we did it here. You know, we were down at a high school. 599 00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:59.159 So we did it here. Then we bust people down there. I 600 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.599 can only imagine how it's going to be here now. One thing I didn't 601 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:10.440 share was our Spartan walk. We have a state of walk. Okay, 602 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:16.119 so how long a walk? How long? It's about the same distance from 603 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:22.960 main campus over to our athletic complex. Right. People didn't understand why I 604 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.440 was doing it. I knew there was a stadium coming. You know, 605 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:29.800 I didn't know how I was gonna get it built, but I knew we're 606 00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.280 gonna have a stadium. Now people can see, Okay, this is why 607 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:36.239 he did the walk. This is why. Like we start, we stop 608 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.199 at the Spartan Stadium, we stop at the grotto right behind the mother house. 609 00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.679 You know, give our little prayer, come in and back, and 610 00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.400 we're walking into the stadium. Town. Everybody understands, Okay, oh, 611 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:52.719 this is what coach is talking about. Tradition, man, think about starting 612 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:57.719 the program like we have our spurned dog handshake. I'm telling our guys, 613 00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.960 right, I'm telling our guys man, what y'all got y'all come up, 614 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:05.480 it's gonna be forever, right, our fight songs, right, how we 615 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.000 sing it right? Because straight and I do a little bit different than you 616 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:20.519 guys won't do all that that, right, We just yeah, we just 617 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.800 we just straight up. So you have to be I try to you know, 618 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:28.599 give that handshake to somebody. What you doing man, That's the first 619 00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:32.079 thing we learned when we got in there. Was like, right, So 620 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.280 yeah, I'm teaching our guys that stuff. Man. You guys got to 621 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:42.079 have a handshake of something that you do that every Madonna football player would know. 622 00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:45.559 We we have not showned the fights on yet because we haven't won yet, 623 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.679 right, So what does that look like? How is that gonna sound? 624 00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.320 You know what I mean? So there's a bunch of like stuff that's 625 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:58.320 gonna be new and fresh. I got to ask, like, I just 626 00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:07.840 like I want to play that hey man, you know, you know we're 627 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:13.159 only ten months man, I mean, you know, or or you get 628 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:19.239 ten semesters right to play you know, four or five, right, So 629 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.039 it's not it's about the year. So you can go halftime, full time, 630 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:28.719 halftime, full time to get those years in. M hmmm. It's 631 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.679 crazy, Like I got guys that have senior because of COVID and because we 632 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.880 didn't and they red shirt. They still got two years left even though they're 633 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.840 seniors. Oh that's love. That's love that they just keep playing that. 634 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:44.360 It's love. But you also got to be We got a kid, Assan 635 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:49.360 Cars's name right, came in. He has another year to play, but 636 00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.519 at the same time a sign as account major. He has a great job. 637 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:58.840 That's he's making more money than I'm gonna be making. And in that 638 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:02.159 sense, you got to be like he sign you know, third train quarterback 639 00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:06.960 or go make one hundred thousand dollars. I think he should go do that, 640 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:09.559 right, Yeah, So yeah, we got a lot of interesting things 641 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.920 going on here, and be more than happy for you guys to come down 642 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:16.960 and spend some time with our team and you know, telling them your experience 643 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:23.719 and you know, just a spout ball and hot student athlete anytime, even 644 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:28.280 if it's practicing spring ball or whatever. Just let us know we're there. 645 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.239 We're coming to see it. Bringing this is Spada to Madonna University. Man, 646 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.800 yes to say this. Man, So we're right there, Friday, 647 00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:39.719 We're there, right, You're still in the family. You're definitely in the 648 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:45.679 family. Always really appreciate your time. Coach. Hey, good, appreciate 649 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.679 the coach. Thank you, guys. Man, I appreciate y'all. All 650 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:54.960 right, brother, yeah, man, boy, that's that's very interesting, 651 00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.719 you know, I mean I never think about how much he's learning, like 652 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:05.159 who is going to be able to have a resume like that on the plank, 653 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.239 But you think about all the other school yeah, schools like you know, 654 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:12.199 think you know, you think about the last chance use of the world, 655 00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.280 right like where you got to be the ad, you gotta be the 656 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:19.400 academic counselor you got to be the president. I mean, you got to 657 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.079 do a lot of stuff where you know you won't be able to touch that 658 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.719 if you're at other other universities because people are doing those jobs. But for 659 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.639 him to straight up and say, hey, I'll call him president right now 660 00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.880 at this meeting, Like that's where I feel like that is like that's a 661 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.199 that's an opportunity to be really dangerous because you're getting that experience that, like 662 00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:43.920 you said, no one's getting. And so to kudos to him because clearly 663 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.960 he could use this as a stepping stone, but he's thinking about his family, 664 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.159 but also he's building. He's building something that you know, he's bested, 665 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:52.400 Like you don't want to get that to the next man right now, 666 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.519 like you want to see this. No one come to fruishing. And so 667 00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.400 you know, definitely that's what spartan old way. Man. I'm happy he 668 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.800 he's the leader of that program and those kids got a good leader and a 669 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:07.280 good player who knows what it takes. I feel like it's almost like a 670 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:15.280 prime two point oh type too, right, like yeah, it's awesome man. 671 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.599 So yeah, good stuff, guys. That was a great interview, 672 00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.079 and you know, really excited for coach hey Good there. I think he's 673 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.320 really like everyone said, he's turning it around, making it his own, 674 00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:29.639 putting his stamp on it. And that's something that's you know, no matter 675 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.199 ten twenty years from now when he leaves, you know, there's gonna be 676 00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.039 that legacy that he started that's there that you know, other coaches are going 677 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.159 to pick up that tradition. And guy say, it's going to be like 678 00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:44.480 wow, remember we're the first ones to play in this stadium and it was 679 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:50.840 all you know because of what coach hey Good did and uh, you know 680 00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.199 for that university and for those kids and you know building, given that those 681 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:59.719 kids that experience that he had a Michigan state, like having that dinners together 682 00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.239 as a team as opposed to you know, just going out, those things 683 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:06.519 are gonna start stacking up. And he talked about they haven't sang the fight 684 00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:09.320 song yet, but I think this year it's that's when all those things are 685 00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:13.039 gonna come with fruition. They're gonna sing that fight song because they're going to 686 00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:17.119 be an actual program in building and winning. Yeah, gotta love it, 687 00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:20.760 man. It was awesome to hear from him. You know, we have 688 00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:23.559 to cover what happened with the news that broke a couple of days ago. 689 00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:28.880 Was a developing story in ann Arbor. But first, this message from our 690 00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:35.000 friends at I Hop. At I Hop, the six dollars Rudy two d 691 00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:38.519 Fresh and Fruity Combo is back two eggs to bacon strips and two fruit top 692 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:43.599 pancakes only from i hop. Download the app and aren free food with every 693 00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:49.920 order Dinah only limited time at participating locations. Prices may vary. When you 694 00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:54.480 join I Hop's new awards program, the International Bank of Pancakes and start stacking 695 00:53:54.559 --> 00:54:00.199 pan coins towards free food, you get a smile on your plate, YEA 696 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:07.400 enjoying the rewards program today. Well, guys, we got to cover this 697 00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:13.400 story that broke it out of an Arborg just a few days ago. Coach 698 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:19.800 Weiss off. Co offensive coordinator Matt Weiss is on leave. It looks like 699 00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:24.480 there was a raider. The police came into both the shim Beckler Hall for 700 00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:30.199 some kind of a computer crime. And also there was reports of a neighbor 701 00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:37.320 who saw him his home being raided by unmarked police or something. So, 702 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:39.679 guys, this is a very disturbing story. We don't know exactly what the 703 00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:45.760 fraudulent activity is, but something that it looked like. Again, we have 704 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:50.360 Michigan knowing about something, putting a man on the lead, and then you 705 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.159 know, it finally comes out. You know, thinking about the Massie Smith 706 00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:58.800 situation that happened just a few weeks ago where we didn't know anything about it, 707 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:02.480 and then and then you know, and then to go so hard against 708 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:08.119 our program for the tunnel incident. There seems to be a lot of smoke 709 00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:14.840 around the program right now at the University of Michigan. Yeah, no, 710 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:20.320 one straight, noah, Look, we don't even want to touch it because 711 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:24.400 we know what's happening over here, and I just feel like we've both been 712 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:29.559 down bad man, so like that juju, I want to make sure we 713 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:32.400 just a racer from ours because you know, you just never know what's happening. 714 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:37.119 But you know, it's one of those things that as a head coach, 715 00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:39.880 but as a program, as an ad as a leader, you know, 716 00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:45.239 you can only do so much in your staff and holding you know, 717 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:50.519 character, having integrity through and through when they leave the building where they walk 718 00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:54.119 there, the you know brand ambassad of your your leadership and your program and 719 00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:58.320 like, you know, just they could wake up one day and just decide, 720 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.119 you know, that's all out the window and you can't control that. 721 00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:06.920 But it's also to the point of, like, man, it's it's unfortunate 722 00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.599 that they keep taking these these big l's in the public, and you know 723 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:15.400 it's always stemming from like the criminal investigations, and we're gonna let the law 724 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.800 enforcement, you know, do their do their justice and do their due diligence. 725 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:22.719 But you know, it's so much it's a weird thing to have this 726 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:30.760 massive energy and motivation off of end game incident and then you turn to flip 727 00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:35.960 the page to you know what's happening, and you just don't feel that same 728 00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:38.920 energy, you know, and it's like, I know they're all scrambling right 729 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:42.800 now, but like I said, I don't even want to touch it because 730 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.159 like I don't want to be out here canceled culture like out here. So 731 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.880 you know, I'm just gonna pray for them, and uh, they'll be 732 00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.400 on my prayer list, similar to what we do in praying for us internally. 733 00:56:55.039 --> 00:57:00.599 Right on. Notice, you know, when you know this came out, 734 00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:04.679 just like everyone that's listening to this, you know, this was one 735 00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.559 of those things like there's those guys down the road and there's that sense of, 736 00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:12.199 oh, you know, that's what they deserve and stuff like. But 737 00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.320 at the end of the day, I'm not gonna say that's what they deserve. 738 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:21.559 I'm gonna actually reframe from saying anything till more news comes out, really 739 00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:24.199 because like right now, it's just all these reports that are out. No 740 00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:30.480 one knows exactly what the crime is and everything like that. So until you 741 00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:38.639 know everything's fully out, I just say it's an unfortunate situation and just wait 742 00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:45.960 till more comes out. The continent professionals, otis Wiley Jay, you cochrit. 743 00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:52.400 Guys. Look, it's tough. It's a tough one. You have 744 00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:57.199 to tow the line on I mean, because we don't know. What do 745 00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.480 I know that you guys don't. I don't know anything different. I don't 746 00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:05.440 have any inside or information on this. I just read from the newspapers and 747 00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:09.719 the twitter, you know, comments or whatever that happened that everybody else has 748 00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:14.440 a chance to look at. So to me, we need more information. 749 00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:17.679 But it does seem very very fishy. You know that. You know, 750 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:22.199 you have a player driving around with loaded weapons with extra bullets over the plays, 751 00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:27.440 driving twenty plus miles an hour over the speed limit at whatever time that 752 00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:32.599 was in the morning, on the eve of the game. There's no it 753 00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:37.760 took ten weeks to come out after you know, they went to Bitten Championship 754 00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:40.639 for it to come out. This one was much faster. We all know 755 00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:46.000 about this, this blue wall theory that's out there. Here's an example another 756 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:50.280 one. It just didn't take ten weeks for it to come out. This 757 00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:54.880 one is egregious enough for it to come out within twenty four hours. So 758 00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:01.320 this one, I think, guys must be somewhat serious. If unloaded weapon 759 00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:09.079 on campus isn't serious. So that's all we can do. We can't come 760 00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:15.800 go any uh in further in depth into that because we don't have the information. 761 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:21.679 But one can assume that it's more serious than speeding down the road with 762 00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:30.800 loaded firearms might drop. That is a job. Hey, listen, man, 763 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:37.159 I I've I've personally witnessed being the neighbor. This is in this is 764 00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.039 Indianapolis, this is off this is off of this is off of sixty second 765 00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:45.519 Street, and uh and guy, guy, and roll right and you know 766 00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:47.880 where that's at the hood. Man, I didn't say that's the hood. 767 00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:53.360 But my neighbor, my neighbor. I'm in the house, I'm chilling with 768 00:59:53.360 --> 01:00:00.679 with my baby girl. My wife comes home. She uh, she's thinking 769 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:05.719 that these unmarked cars and are in our coldor sack is like after our crib. 770 01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:07.760 And I didn't know what was going on. And then she pulls in, 771 01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:12.639 She's like, are you here for our household? It was our neighbor 772 01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.239 and they went in and did they do dialing? Just but I've never seen 773 01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:22.480 so many unmarked black cars and one like quick in the point, were you 774 01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:27.519 like this? And the window? Absolutely I was out here, liked I 775 01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:30.239 had that I had that. I had that, Malcolm X. Look like 776 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:43.000 we're starting up with men and then so like I'm thinking about, like, 777 01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.320 man, I could have been that neighbor, Like these guys over there are 778 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:49.760 doing. It's like, man, look that is their property, that's their 779 01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.599 crib. Just don't come over to my line and property. Do do anything 780 01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:59.920 but do what you do man. You gotta pay mortgage. My and I. 781 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.800 It was kind of those kind of raids. I understand what you're saying. 782 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:08.000 I don't even I don't even know. I don't even want to find 783 01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.719 out, that's what I'm saying, Like this Shiit story, I don't even 784 01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:15.239 want to fully know. Like I'm just gonna move along, keep my head 785 01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:20.360 to what we need to focus all over here, right, I love it. 786 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.000 I love it. Guys like, hey, it was a great show. 787 01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:24.239 You know, we can't cover anymore of that, but it was a 788 01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:30.360 great interview with her coach Hey good man. Nonetheless, So guys, you 789 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:34.599 know this is a wrap on this one right here. Good job once again 790 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.519 for ODIs Wiley, j You Colca, come, Jason Strayhorn. This is 791 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.760 Sparta. Have a good night, God bless and go green. Right. 792 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:57.199 This is part of MSU was a bind presentation of Playfly Sports Properties in Michigan 793 01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:01.280 State Sports Properties. 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