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time for your morning wake up call.

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Here's Jason Middleton. Good morning everybody. Right on, This is your wake

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up call. I am Jason.
It is Wednesday, June twenty first.

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I've been teasing it all week.
Happy to say it's Summer Solstice. Also

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producer Anne's birthday, and I'm celebrating
by going to play mini golf and she

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doesn't want to play to celebrate her
birthday. Summer Solstice. Happy birthday.

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In Summer Solstice, it officially starts
at seven fifty seven this morning, La

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time. The sunlight today four hours
and thirty two minutes longer than the Winter

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Solstice in December. Sunrise today five
two am. There's not gonna be a

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quiz. I'm just letting you know. Sunrise today is at five forty two

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am, Sunset is eight o seven
pm, and the sun is at the

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peak of its arc today at twelve
fifty four pm. I don't know why.

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I just I love summer sols.
I don't know why. I think

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it's just because it's like the year's
half over, so it's like, right,

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on the fence right like half done, half to come. It's got

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a few headlines here and then we'll
talk about what's coming up later this hour

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four wake up call, the Coastguard
says underwater noise has been detected in the

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search for a submersible that disappeared while
exploring the wreck of the Titanic. That

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submersible loss contact with its support shipped
on Sunday. And at the bottom of

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the hour, we're going to get
an update live from our ABC correspondent.

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The former Air National guardsman accused of
leaking classified documents online will face arraignment today

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in a Massachusetts courthouse. And the
National Hurricane Center says tropical Storm Brett with

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one T is getting stronger as it
heads towards the Caribbean. Now, we

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have some other stories coming out of
the KF at twenty four hour news room.

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As always we do lead local La
City Councilman Marquis Harris Dawson has replaced

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Councilman Current Price as president. Pro
ten Price stepped down as council president last

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week and gave up his committee assignments
when he was charged in an alleged paid

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a play scheme. A former lawyer
for former President Trump is facing disbardment in

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LA for eleven charges claiming he engaged
in an egregious attack on democracy. The

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state bar claims former Chapman University professor
John Eastman advised Trump to illegally usurp the

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will of the people by obstructing the
twenty twenty election. The bar claims Eastman

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pushed bogus claims of election fraud to
Trump and the protesters who stormed the capitol.

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Eastman in January disputed the charges.
If the election was illegal, and

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it clearly was, then our constitution
requires strong patriots to come to its defense.

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If the state Bar court recommends disbartment
after eight days of hearings, the

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state Supreme Court would still have the
final say in La. Corbin Carson k

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i I News hundreds of sea animals
in southern California have been poisoned by the

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red tide coming in from the Channel
Islands. The Marine Mammal Care Centers John

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Warner says sea lions, dolphins,
and other animals have been ingesting. Fish

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that have eaten toxic algae can show
up in whales, It can show up

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in elephant, seals, fur seals, Harbor seals, and of course birds.

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Warner says the red tide comes from
warming waters caused by climate change.

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He says if anyone sees a sick
animal, don't touch it, call a

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rescue center or tell a lifeguard.
A new firefighting tool has been installed in

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Rancho Pellis berdies The helo pod will
help firefighting helicopters refill their water tanks faster

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and without landing. Ellie County Fires
John O'Brien says the helo pods portable and

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connects to a fire hydrant and then
when it reaches the top with that float

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valve, it'll shut the water down
until the copter comes in, drains a

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thousand gallons off of it, it'll
put another thousand gallons right back into it,

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so eliminates that need for the engine
company to be stationed here. It's

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like a toilet tank. Correct,
It's brilliant. Pilots flew in and hovered

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yesterday to demo the helo pad.
O'Brien says the latest helopad makes it a

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total of ten in the county and
with its portability, makes it a critical

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tool in firefighting. How many fire
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that's a good one. Thousands,
hundreds of thousands in rentals Palace Verdes Steve

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Gregory can of Fine News. I've
been doing some math on that fire hydrants

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thing in La County. I don't
think it's hundreds of thousands. It can't

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be. I can't find the number
though, But it's more like tens of

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thousands, I assume, but I
don't know. It could be up to

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one hundred thousand. In a couple
of minutes, Aaron Katurski will join us.

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He's an ABC correspondent. We're going
to talk about the Hunter Biden plea

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deal that went down yesterday. But
first let's get back to some of the

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stories coming out of the KFI twenty
fire news room. Hundreds of CEA mammals

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along the coast of southern California have
been poisoned by toxic algae. The red

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tide is concentrated along the Santa Barbara
coast and creeping downward to La in Orange

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County. The Marine Mammal Care Centers
John Warner says sixty c animals in La

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County have ingested moiic acid created by
the algae, and damoic acid shows up

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in our marine life sea lions,
in particular dolphins, etc. As a

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neurological toxin. Warner said yesterday,
marine rescue centers are overwhelmed by the number

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of animals getting sick, and those
numbers are going up daily. In San

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Pedro, Chris Adler KFI News Milk
Bar is giving away free ice cream to

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celebrate the summer Solstice. The Milk
Bar store on Melrose is handing out free

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many pints of their signature Cereal Milk
ice cream today in honor of the first

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official day of summer. They come
with a spoon and a lid so people

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can save the treat during the longest
day of the year. First come,

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first served, limited to one one
per person, of course. The Glendale

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School District Board has held its last
meeting of the school year with a huge

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turnout of LGBTQ plus advocates and protesters. People last night spoke out about the

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district's curriculum and policies related to Pride
Month. One man says the board should

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be charged with pedophilia for grooming kids
to be trans I've got kids in this

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community that are my siblings, that
are my friends. I've got everything here

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and I do not want it tarnished
by your dubauchery. Another speaker said it's

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important for advocates to keep promoting empowerment
and inclusion. We need to love unconditionally,

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and I'm here to walk that walk
for those who feel too scared to

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be here. She thanked the district
for creating a safe environment for all students.

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Rescue crews are racing against time to
find a small submersible that was supposed

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to tour the wreckage of the Titanic. US Coastguard Rear Admiral John Mauger says

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crews are searching an area of the
size of Connecticut. We have a P

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three aircraft from the Canadian Armed Forces
that's been flying during the last twenty four

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hours and dropping snabilis listening to this
out. Officials say Canadian aircraft has detected

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underwater noises during the search and relocated
search efforts. The Coastguard has also sent

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down an underwater robot to help find
the sub We're going to talk more about

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this at five thirty within as Daili
Kata Right now, we have Aaron Katursky

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on the Lago morning erin worrying Jason. Looks like it took five years of

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investigating. There's a new chapter though
in the Hunter Biden legal situation. Could

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you get his caught up please?
He's agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanor

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tax accounts that accused him of failing
to pay taxes for the year's twenty seventeen

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twenty eighteen, those or years when, by his own admission, he was

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hooked on crack cocaine. There's also
a felony gun charge from the US Attorney's

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Office in Delaware that Hunter Biden more
was thaw through a pre trial diversion program,

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meaning if he abides by the terms
for whatever duration, the charge will

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ultimately be dropped. So after a
five year investigations, it's three charges that

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result, and none of them are
going to result in prison time. Now

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you and I both have just referred
to this as a five year investigation the

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Biden legal team. Legal team says
the investigation's over, but is it well?

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The US Attorney's Office set at a
statement the investigation is ongoing, But

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I think federal prosecutors kind of always
say that there's no evidence that other charges

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are going to be brought on any
other matter, despite Republican cries and I

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think the understanding from Hunter Biden's legal
team is that this does resolve the investigation

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and they do not expect other charges
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be unusual for criminal defense attorneys to
arrange a plea bargain if they anticipated that

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it was just going to be,
you know, followed with additional charges.

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I see has any of the GOP
pushback on this plea deal, this arrangement

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that has been made is a focus
on the prosecuting attorney in the case at

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all, No, because that's a
losing argument, right. It's because he

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was appointed by Trump, and this
is so I think it's more effective for

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the Republicans to just sort of say
what they're going to say rather than actually

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try to call him to a hearing
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as it is, he's written a
letter to the House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan

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to say that he was given ultimate
authority over the case, that suggesting this

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was his decision, not influenced by
Attorney generalman Or Carland. I see.

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Okay. I guess my last question
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covering such things, is probation typical
for a misdemeanor. Please like this it

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is, you know, to get
prison time for tax violations, you really

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have to take some doing, you
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Your exposure is usually related to the
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it. It might have been two
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paid it back. Um And I
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he might not have even been prosecuted
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I mean, you usually have to
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or otherwise do for the authorities.
Um. Here he didn't pay his taxes,

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he admitted it, didn't pay them, paid them back, and still

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got prosecuted. And we can't think
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a president, a sitting president's son
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criminal charges. You know, Billy
Carter was certainly investigated. And there was

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some shenanigans with Neil Bush and the
George Delbody Bush's daughters. Weren't they called

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drinking at a bar in Houston or
something so like? But like this is

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the whole whole other thing. I
think you and I were both in Houston

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when that went down. As I
recall, interest. Maybe yeah, I

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think we were anyway, Aaron,
thank you so much for joining us this

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morning, and thanks for the context
around the Hunter Biden deal. Much appreciated.

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Thank you, Jason, ABC's Aaron
Katurski. There, let's get back

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to some of the stories coming out
of the KFI twenty four hour news room.

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A proposed Wildlife District Ordinance has been
approved by LA's Planning and Land Use

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Management Committee. It's a subcommittee of
the LA City Council. The ordinance would

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impose land use regulations intended to balance
wildlife habitat and private property development. Council

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Woman Katie Yaroslavsky says it's our responsibility
to take care for wildlife by giving it

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space to flourish and recognize its positive
benefits. She says, if the proposed

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ordinance is passed by the full Council, it would first be enacted in the

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western Santa Monica Mountains and Hollywood Hills. More on this with Bill handle On

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Handle on the News. And for
the fourth time in the last forty years,

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people in the US are giving less. Charitable giving is declined in twenty

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twenty two. The Giving USA report
just released shows total giving down three point

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four percent, a drop of ten
and a half percent when adjusted for inflation.

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The decline comes at a time when
many nonprofits report an increase in requests

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for help. The drop came after
two records setting years for charitable giving during

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the pandemic. A nonprofit soup kitchen
and food pantry in Brooklyn says inflation has

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played a big role. It says
as prices go up, people need more,

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so they donate. Less four hundred
ninety nine point three billion dollars was

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donated in the US in twenty twenty
two. Amy King KFI News. The

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Garbani fire is burning in Metapee,
but it's sixty five percent contained as of

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this morning. The forty three acre
fire forced a brief evacuation order when it

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started yesterday afternoon, and accused of
making a false report of an active shooter

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at Ontario Mills Mall, is now
behind bars. Police say the forty four

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year old man from Rancho Cucamoga caused
a panic May twenty ninth when he ran

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through the mall yelling gun he has
a gun. It's the first day of

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summer, hitting the beach may not
be great today, though. There's a

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bacteria warning for Malibu Lagoon at surf
Ryder Beach to Panga Canyon Beach in Malibu,

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the Santa Monica Pier and Mother's Beach
in Marina del Rang. At Fight

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thirty, we're gonna check with ABC's
Inez Delikata and get an update on the

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rather fascinating search for the submersible that
lost contact about nine hundred miles due east

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from Boston in the Atlantic Ocean.
But right now on the line, we

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have CNBC show host, an anchor, and veteran journalist John Fort. Good

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morning, John, Good morning.
What a transition, right, I'm doing

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great. Thank you and thank you
for jumping on. I know you're slamming

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this morning and getting prepped for you
the day I want to start with.

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Let's start with a surprise for you. Chair J. Powell is going to

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be at the Senate Banking Committee.
Lady later this morning, get around seven

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am our time here in La What
are we expecting to hear from Chairman Powell.

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We are expecting to hear him say
the same thing that he's been saying

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over and over again. But we
will read the twitches in his eyes or

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the tone of his voice to try
to figure out whether the market should panic,

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right, I mean, what's been
going on here is people really watching

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what the how the Fed feels about
inflation. Whether we're near the end of

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this rate height cycle that seems to
be the case, But in inflation has

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been pretty stubborn, right, It's
just been hanging in there. We have

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that CPI number, you know,
just a few days ago that was a

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little on the hotter side. The
consumers continuing to go, so you know,

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people will be listening to hear what
he says about that. Okay,

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that makes sense, And right now
I'm looking at in the futures markets are

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pretty much flat because they're all waiting
to hear what Jay might stay on the

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hill, but you're right, he's
not going to say anything like revolutionary.

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I don't think. Do you think
this bull market that we just tipped into

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just very recently is for real or
is this kind of a bubble? Well,

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I mean bull markets are funny,
right, because the definition of a

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bull market, that kind of classic
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right, So we hit that.
It's been an amazing rally, saying

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the SMP this year, but we
know that last year in the market was

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horrible, right, but we might
forget that there was a period where we

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and then that all went away.
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investors have to go back to the
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which we kind of forgotten because the
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was this easy money from the Fed
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think about fundamentally, how long do
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your goals when you're investing, you
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stocks? What kind of waiting do
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or bond portfolio? What kind of
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it's hard to shift mindset, but
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I talked to are on CNBC every
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what they're saying is, hey,
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that on CNBC, you guys cover
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I want to pivot over to AI
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Chesney, who was Airbnb CEO.
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and Chesney's point was AI is going
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kills because of disruption. What's your
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for years. Yeah, I mean
Brian Chesky is very rich and he's a

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very smart guy. The problem with
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it kills is it won't necessarily create
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that the jobs get killed for.
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we have to look and say,
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in the space? Am I the
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am I the car manufacturing worker in
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think panicking doesn't make sense right as
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really is going to affect that knowledge
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than previous technology revolutions and advances that
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it seems like the clickbait headlines are
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but it seems like actually the main
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rolling out to the the consumer level. Do you think that the tech sector

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is going to continue to ask for
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are they really hoping to get some
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baby effect. I mean, do
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we said we wanted regulation and somehow
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they know that once again, this
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runaway impact. It's going to have
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of like you know, the Internet
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to be in position of saying,
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good. So I think really the
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when it comes to AI is not
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have a really bad trek record of
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competition to develop capability there. But
one are the human institutions, what are

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the democratic institutions, things like voter
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arts education. What are the things
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Right to counterbalance the software becoming better
software? John, thank you so

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much for joining us this morning.
Next time you're doing a remote from southern

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California, let me know. I'll
bring the donuts to set. Okay,

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all right, just as long as
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it's a mouth field thing. I
get you. John, Thanks a

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lot, take care of this The
NBC show host anchor John Fort. John

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and I shared some newsroom space in
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went back east to start some new
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some more stories coming out of the
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get to the bottom of the hour. Orange County is planning to open a

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one hundred nineteen bed healthcare facility following
an eighty nine percent spike in homeless seniors

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needing treatment. These are individuals that
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fifty calopt them a Health Medical director
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dollar hospital like facility will be able
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services until they find housing. With
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equity in their homes, and then
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flu and they can't be in their
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A planning commission still has to approve. In Tustin, Corbin Carson ko find

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News, the Los Angeles City Council
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of a public bank. Yesterday,
the council moved forward with a vote to

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start paying consultants. Six Flags Magic
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power all of its roller coasters.
The theme park in Valencia will first turn

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its thirty acre parking lot into a
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and energy storage systems will start later
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the Diocese of Oakland is trying to
keep the names of accused abusers a

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secret. During a hearing yesterday,
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stations and who's winning the standardization war. I believe it starts with the T

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is the brand. Right now,
we have ABC's inz Delicatea on the line

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to update us on the submersible that
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Sunday. Good morning, Good morning, So can you just give us the

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latest. Let's just go from the
top. Yeah, So, the Baker

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headline this morning is that, according
to the US Coat Guard, Canadian aircrafts

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have detected underwater noises its remote operated
vehicle operations, where then relocate to that

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area to try and figure out where
those noises were coming from what those noises

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could be. So far, no
vessel has been detected, but the hope

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is that these noises are coming from
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shared with US Navy experts for additional
analysis, and according to some reports,

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surge crews have been hearing banging sounds
at thirty minute intervals. So Rolling Stone

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magazine was setting internal government mecos saying
that banging had been detected, that additional

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devices had then been deployed four hours
later, and that four hours later those

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noises were still being heard. It's
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for how long, whether they're still
hearing it, but that is certainly

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getting people hope, and in fact
the Explorers Club, which was founded by

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one of the billionaire passengers on board
the submersible, they're saying that there is

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cause for hope based on field data, since likely signs of life have been

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detected at the site. We'll say
that we are hearing from some officials from

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the Coast Guard this morning who are
making the rounds on various media outlets,

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and they are causing people, I
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are reminding people that this is happening, of course at these types of wreckage

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site, and that there are plenty
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banging could be coming from anything.
Really wow, it's my understanding. And

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we've been reporting that the submersible loss
contact with its support ship on Sunday,

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and most of the stories that you
read say the clock is taking etc.

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Running down and stuff. Do do
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time frame the Coast Guard is targeting
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it really is a race against time. So they had about four days worth

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of oxygen when this whole thing began. They first went down on Sunday morning.

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They were reported missing on Sunday night. They are believed to have just

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about thirty eight hours of breathable air
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and so that, you know,
is really the main challenge here is getting

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figuring out where they are and then
getting help to them in time before the

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oxygen runs out. They have a
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I will say that if the vessel
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the Titanic wreckage, or if it
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there are very few vessels around the
world that actually have the capability to help

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with anything. And the challenge is
getting all those different ships to the SEC

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in time before the oxygen runs out. But they're trying their best to get

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help there. So, for instance, there is a Canadian vessel with a

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mobile decompression chamber that is on the
way. There's also a French research ship

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that has an underwater robot that can
descend deep below the seed. The US

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Navy is also sending a system designed
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Military is sending an unfustified adsect,
but again that the challenge is getting all

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that aid to the site in time
before the oxygen runs out, right right,

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I know all this focuses on the
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a common question that comes up as
regulation or oversight, is there any kind

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of coastguard oversight on a vessel like
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it comes to specifically coast guard oversight, I don't. I don't know the

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specifics of that. I know this
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coordinated by the US Post Guard and
what helped from the US Navy and the

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Canadian Coast Guards of multiple countries involved
here, multiple units involved, and when

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it up to oversight the company,
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company. There are questions that are
being raised about the company's kind of track

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record and safety record, with the
Associated Press reporting that the company had been

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repeatedly warned that there could be catastrophic
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was developed, and in fact there
was a lawsuit. So according for the

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LAWSROO filed in the US District Court
in Seattle with a director of Marine Operations

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fult the company writing in an engineering
report in twenty and eighteen that the craft

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needs and more testing and that passengers
might be endangered when it reached extreme depths.

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The company then sued this man and
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He filed the counterclaims that there's things
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that the company's safety records right.
Thank you, okay, well, thank

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you for the update and for your
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thank you. Abc'son as delicatea there. Last night KFI Show host Tim

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Conway Junior talked with retired NASA astronaut
Colonel Terry verts Vertus, a good friend

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to Hamish Harding. Harding is on
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of the last people. Harding texted
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they're in. The Titan has an
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if the communication dies, it's supposed
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to the surface. And that didn't
happen. And of course a Colonel Vertz

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is you know, he's positive and
optimistic. There is hope. And here's

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the biggest reason why we haven't gotten
any bad news yet. Like we haven't

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seen wreckage, we haven't seen debris
looating, we haven't heard the sonar.

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That's a retired NASA officer, Colonel
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last night. Let's get back to
some of the stories coming out of the

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KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Striking
writers in la are planning a large marchin

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rally as they're now in the eighth
week of their job action with no deal

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insight. Allies and supporters are expected
to join the writers this morning at Pan

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Pacific Park near the Beverly Center.
They planned to march to the Great Lawn

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of the La Brea Tar Pits.
The Coast Guard has suspended its search for

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a sailor in southern California who went
overboard about fourteen miles off the coast of

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Santa Barbara. Crews searched by air
and C for nearly fifteen hours, covering

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more than two hundred square nautical miles, and when the Long Beach Command Center

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got the report yesterday of that man
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ready for FED Chair Jerome Powell.
J. Powell to those of us who

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cover my guests, his semi annual
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Congress, at the Senate, actually
in Capital. It's going to take an

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additional importance this time around because as
investors are sizing up what happened last week's

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meeting when they paused the interest rate
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sixteen eighteen months. There's an additional
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then Pale portrayed the skip as an
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policy direction was impacting the overall economy. Basically, when he says data driven,

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that's what they're talking about. They're
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June to look at the data and
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sticky. Disbarment hearings have started in
LA for a lawyer for former President Trump,

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who faces eleven disciplinary charges tied to
the twenty twenty election. Former Chapman

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University professor John Eastman disputed the allegations
in January as a violation of the sixth

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Amendment, the right to every citizen
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The bar actually imposes that as a
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fulfilling that duty, they are accusing
me of things that are simply false.

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The State Bar claims Eastman gave Trump
a strategy unsupported by facts or law to

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obstruct the legitimate results of the election. JP Morgan Chase says financier Jeffrey Epstein

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got more than three hundred million dollars
in tax incentives from the US Virgin Islands.

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The Bank says in a court filing
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also waived sex offender monitoring requirements shielding
Epstein as he gave cash and gifts to

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top officials. The Coastguard says underwater
noises have been detected in the search for

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a submersible that disappeared while exploring the
wreck of the Titanic. They lost contact

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with their support ship on Sunday.
Amazon Prime Day is coming up next month.

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The annual sales event for Prime members
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normally includes some of the best deals
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a free ad for a company that
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publisher in the country is suing Google. The Ganet Publishing company alleges that Google

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holds a monopoly over digital advertising markets. I think Wayne Resnick would call that

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prima faction. I believe Ginette,
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hundred other newspapers, filed the lawsuit
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It is five fifty on your wake
up Call, ABC's Mike Dbuski is on

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the line. Today's technology topic is
charging stations and electric vehicles. Good morning,

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Mike, Good morning, Yeah,
and a big move in the EV

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infrastructure space Jason Yesterday. On Tuesday, Rivian, which is an EV startup.

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They make a pickup truck and an
suv and they have a contract with

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Amazon to make electric delivery vans.
They said that they're going to adopt the

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North American Charging Standard for their future
vehicles, otherwise known as NACS. This

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is the Tesla plug. This is
the thing that Tesla invented that supports their

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supercharger stations across the country. Rivian
says, starting in twenty twenty five,

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their new electric trucks are going to
be compatible with this system. And Jason,

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it's kind of the last doomp or
the latest domino to fall in Tesla's

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favor here, because Ford made a
similar announcement at the end of May,

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and General Motors followed that up a
few weeks later with the same announcement.

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All of those vehicles starting in twenty
twenty five, those evs are going to

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be combatible with Tesla's charging network.
So a pretty significant move here, absolutely.

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I mean say what you will about
Elon Muskin, I sure have.

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But boy, building this infrastructure is
a return on investment for sure. I

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mean this is all be paying off
for a while for Tesla. Is this

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this is a recurring revenue stream?
Right? Yes it is. And you

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can imagine from kind of a couple
different ways here, Right, all these

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that we don't have specific numbers on
this, but you can imagine that,

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you know, the General Motors and
the Fords and the Rivians of the world

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have some sort of contract with Tesla
in order to do this. And also

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you, as an EV driver going
up to a supercharger station do need to

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pay some amount of money to charge
your vehicle. So this is a big

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deal for Tesla, and you're absolutely
right that this has been a big success

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for them. The supercharger network has
been around for many years, I believe

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more than ten years when it first
rolled out. To demonstrate its sort of

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broad capabilities, Elon Musk actually did
a road trip in one of his cars

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across the United States, proving that
you can do across country road trip in

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an electric vehicle using public charging stations. And they have been broadly well received

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too. There's more than twelve thousand
supercharging stations across the country. People really

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like them, and that's significant when
you compare it to non Tesla EV charging

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stations. Things like electrify America and
ev Go. JD Power put out a

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report earlier this year that found that
more than one in five EV drivers who

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used public charging experience some kind of
malfunction or failure, meaning that they were

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not able to charge their vehicles.
So you can see why a lot of

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these big EV manufacturers, despite the
fact that Tesla is their competitor, would

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want to get into their charging network
to sort of smooth this EV transition.

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Yeah, because the capital investment on
building infrastructure like this was pretty big,

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and now he's getting a return on
the investment because of the network. He's

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mentioned twelve thousand stations tech companies of
recurring revenue model. They sure do monthly

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subscriptions and the like. So you
mentioned Rivian, gm Ford right there,

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of any other I'm on the waiting
list for a Fisker because we have to

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do adoption here in California a little
bit more rapidly than the rest of the

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country, at least so far.
What's the next stage or domino as to

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use your word, that might fall
here. I think that's a really interesting

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question, and we don't really know. I was talking to some experts about

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this yesterday and kind of in the
wake of the GM announcement as well,

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and they kind of pointed me towards
the German brands as potentially being the next

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major domino to fall in Tesla's favor
here. Volkswagen has a lot of electric

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vehicles that they have in the pipeline, including a sedan called the ID seven,

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And of course we can't forget about
their their re ducks, their resurrection

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of the microbus as an electric vehicle, of a vehicle called the ID Buzz,

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which we're expecting to get here in
the States pretty soon. Also,

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BMW, Mercedes Benz have a pretty
wide swath and growing swath of electric vehicles.

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Volkswagen just to go back to them. Let's not forget they also own

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Audie and they have sort of a
involvement with Porsche as well, and both

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of those companies have evs as well. Something that I thought was interesting is

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that they kind of pushed me away
from the Korean brands as being the next

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people to sort of jump on this
bandwagon, which was surprising to me because

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both Hundai and Kia have very well
received evs in the Ionic five and the

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Kia EV six. They have more
in the pipeline that people are really anxiously

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anticipating. Let's not forget the Hyundai
Ionic six sedan that is electric won the

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North American Car of the Year this
year and I was at the announcement as

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a matter of fact, the New
York International Auto Show. But those vehicles

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use and this kind of gets a
little technical, but they use eight hundred

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volt batteries, which they told me, you know, might not play well

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with the current infrastructure because they're a
little like too heavy duty. So they

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might need to do some sort of
reworking of their systems before that domino falls.

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Yeah, but you know that that's
kind of the size of it.

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I mean, it seems like perhaps
Volkswagen, but you know, we really

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just don't know yet. Well,
it seems like, I mean, I

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have a USBC to a adapter.
You'd think you'd be able to put an

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adapter on this and that that's kind
of how it stands right now for people

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who currently own like Rivan products or
Forward evs or General Motors evs. Is

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that they say, people who bought
into the current vehicle with the old CCS

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Combined Charging System chargers, they will
give you, or at least the plan

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is right now, they will give
you for free an adapter that will work

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with the new supercharging plugs. So
you know, even if you don't buy

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a new EV, if you have
one already you're not going to be left

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behind. So they say, that's
how it stands right now. That could

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look different in twenty twenty five,
but that's that's kind of how it is.

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I think the comparison to the cell
phone market, though, is smart

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because if you look at, you
know, the current charging landscape with smartphones,

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you buy one plug for the iPhone
and you buy a different plug USBC

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for pretty much everything else. But
coming this year on the next generation iPhone,

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it is going to transition over to
USBC and we're seeing that broadly happen

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in the EV space as well.
It's it's funny how those two markets overlap.

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So yeah, all right, well
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a curveball

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at you before I have to let
you go. You've been covering tech for

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a long time. We were talking
about Elon Musk a second ago. Have

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you heard anything from the boring company
in the last several years. Oh,

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let me think about that. Uh
yeah, not exactly right. They're they're

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digging tunnels under Las Vegas the last
I checked on them, and I believe

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that right now. It's just Tesla's
the drive back and forth through them,

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which I guess is maybe a new
ability solution, but like, yeah,

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the hyper loop you know that was
that was kind of does not seem to

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be coming together, at least within
the timeframe that they predicted. I have

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a ball cap that says a boring
company. I went to an event and

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they gave it to me. I'm
just filling nostalgic for it these days.

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Did you buy the flamethrower? You
didn't get the no, no, but

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I haven't. I have been.
I have watched that video of Musk making

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a full of himself. Um,
Mike, always a pleasure to talk to

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me. Thanks a lot for your
time, you two. Jason, take

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care Sees Technology and news reporter Mike
Dbuskie right there. A couple of quick

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headlines before we get to the top
of the hour and handle on the news.

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Workers looking for the cause of a
thirty thousand gallon sewage discharge from a

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manhole in Rancho palas Verti's manhole earlier
this month have discovered human remains. The

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remains were found last week in some
overgrown brush. No information has been given

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about the conditions of the remains or
how long they had been there. Attorney

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General Rob Bonta says the state is
working with online retailers to combat retail theft.

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Organized retail theft cost the state billions
of dollars each year, Bonta says.

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To tackle that, the DOJ has
created a portal for the public to

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report any suspected retail theft activity,
and online marketplaces doing business in California are

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required to link to that portal,
Bonta said yesterday. Retailers like CBS at

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Cnebay have been pivotal in helping to
identify retail theft. Online marketplaces have signed

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an information sharing agreement to help with
the effort. Chris Adler KFI News we

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lead local live from the case if
I twenty four hour News. We're MM

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by Jason Middleton. This has been
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