1 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:19,160 Welcome to season two, episode forty two of Clips and Dim. I am 2 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,519 Chuck Mackler, joined by Adam Ozon and William Updyke. If you're listening to 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,079 us, thank you so much for listening to us. If you're watching us 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,480 over on YouTube at YouTube dot com Slash at Clippers Podcast, we got to 5 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:33,039 a thousand subscribers, so thank you very much for subscribing. We could always 6 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:37,920 use more. We do giveaways on there. It's very funk now. March 7 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:42,399 March, OK, the March to five K. We're gonna do it today. 8 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:45,119 We've got a pretty fun episode. We're talking Paul George's level of play. 9 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,399 A bunch of trade rumors have kind of kicked up for the Clippers, 10 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:53,320 and then there's been some cool into it press about the Wall lately that we 11 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:57,000 want to talk about. And as Adam Oslon pointed out this weekend, we 12 00:00:57,039 --> 00:01:03,159 are so close to getting that Powell Rangers nickname into the larger zeitgeist that it 13 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,280 deserves. We will talk about that. Adam, how are you doing today? 14 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:10,120 I'm good, gonna be with you guys. Thanks to everyone helping us 15 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:14,920 get to one k on the YouTube subs. Appreciate you, guys, what 16 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,480 was the last episode. We had a little double dip the other night, 17 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,439 chuck Yeah to the Clippers victory over the OKC Thunder. Some thought that was 18 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,239 the best win of the season. It was certainly one of more entertaining ones 19 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,480 can argue with that. That was a fun time. No Zoo, we're 20 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,159 gonna talk about that problem too, and kind of the encouraging stuff for Mason 21 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,959 public will. How are you doing on this overcast Los Angeles evening? Doing 22 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,400 well? Man? Yeah, last time we spoke, the Clippers had had 23 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:48,359 a great win and not just a lot of downtime in between. So yeah, 24 00:01:48,599 --> 00:01:51,120 that's all right too. Not sure what to do with myself. Yeah, 25 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,920 Like it is weird. I'm like, there's four days off and Clippers 26 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,599 don't play until a brunch battle at twelve thirty this Sunday, So I guess, 27 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,400 I mean, we'll talk about it later. I mean, any extra 28 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,200 time to get Big Zoo back on the court, I think is is gonna 29 00:02:05,239 --> 00:02:07,520 be great. I feel like I got to pull receipts on us complaining about 30 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:15,240 the schedule, like it's maybe I was just wait money, just wait, 31 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:20,599 what is there like seventeen games coming up in a month? Oh, man, 32 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,400 that is horrifying week Club. I think about it every single day I 33 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,759 wake up and every single day I go to bed. Uh they did, 34 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,599 so it is crazy. This is the last time we'll talk about March Uh 35 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:36,199 this episode. I looked it up. They actually played seventeen games in I 36 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,800 think January, two seasons ago. But that was when a Mirror was going 37 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:45,120 on that crazy run when he was like fifty forty ninety. So could happen 38 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,400 again? Yeah, why not. They're gonna need everybody, all hands on 39 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,439 deck. And they got a mir back into the rotation a lot sooner than 40 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,479 I think most people thought. It's been. It's been a good thing, 41 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,360 a lot of timely. You mentioned in the beats of zoo bots and the 42 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,599 timing of the injury, and I guess we can get into more of that 43 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,520 in a little bit, but I'll just tease that out that there have been 44 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,919 some things, some blessings in disguise for this Clippers team so far this season. 45 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,080 Are you alluding to Mason Plumbley starting over eats the Zubats. I am 46 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:23,199 against that in many, many ways, in many ways. All Right, 47 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,960 we will get to that debate. I guess it's not a debate. There's 48 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,479 no debate there in a bit, but we got to talk about Paul George 49 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,840 is on an incredible level. Adam osm was sharing some stats recently about his 50 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,360 kind of catch and shoot stuff. But before we get into that, I 51 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,680 was looking at the Clippers stats and it's kind of insane how close he and 52 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:50,280 Kawhi are this year in terms of their averages. Qui is averaging twenty three 53 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:53,639 point eight points, Paul George is averaging twenty three point nine. Qui's averaging 54 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:59,240 five and a half boards, Pg's averaging six point one, and they're one 55 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,719 of the Kawai's averaging three point seven assists, Paul George is averaging three point 56 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:08,159 six. They have the same amount of steals and they're taking Kawi is taking 57 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:11,759 just one more field goal attempt than Paul George. This is very cool. 58 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,520 It's obvious it's helping the Clippers, but it's cool to see them using doing 59 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:17,959 it in such different ways. Right, Like we don't think of them as 60 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:23,240 having similar games, like they're FoST elite, but Paul George is shooting and 61 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,720 stuff. It's really cool to see them matchup like this. I think, 62 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:32,120 well, it's interesting too because I just feel I just feel like we see 63 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,399 like Kawhi is at a consistent kind of level all like all this all the 64 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:42,199 time, and Paul George has like these insane highs and not that he has 65 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,720 like wild lows for the most part. I mean he's had like one game 66 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,600 in like the last fifteen where he didn't have twenty points fourteen games. But 67 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,879 yeah, it's just like, stylistically, it's completely different, which we've known, 68 00:04:55,959 --> 00:05:00,560 you know, we've known every year. Really the only comparable thing about 69 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,399 either one of these players is that they're both you know, long two way 70 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:11,560 guys with you know, insane potential and productivity. But yeah, it looks 71 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,959 so much different on a given night where you know, Kawhia has twenty five 72 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,319 and Paul George has you know, thirty two where he just had a season 73 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:25,360 high. It looks notably different between those two players, and I think that 74 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:28,600 it I think that it still speaks to you know, a lot of people 75 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,759 I feel like kind of would lump those players into like the same mold. 76 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,920 But I think stylistically, especially now with Harden, the Clippers really have a 77 00:05:36,959 --> 00:05:42,519 lot more looks and a lot of different ways that they can hurt you that 78 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:46,600 that I don't feel like is maybe as acknowledged in how varied that can be. 79 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,240 Yeah, they have a ton of options in different ways to use guys 80 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,959 within those options when they're on the court, it's it's definitely layered. I 81 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:03,680 saw this from the legatory justin Russeo fly By shout out that we give it 82 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:10,519 every single show because it comes up with some good numbers here. But you 83 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:17,279 know, Kawhi on this season, Kawhi is at fifty two forty four eighty 84 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:23,000 eight shooting splits on the season, right, amazing, incredible. If you 85 00:06:23,079 --> 00:06:27,800 go back to I'm guessing he pulled this from the last three months of last 86 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,800 season into this year over seventy four games, Kawhi Leonard is at fifty two, 87 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:40,560 forty six eighty nine splits. Jesus over a seventy two game stretch. 88 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,560 He's becoming f and Steph Curry. The volume isn't there, but the efficiency 89 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,480 is unbelievable from the outside and as good as Paul George has been with those 90 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:55,240 catch and shoot three pointers this year as opposed to last year when he was 91 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,160 just shooting thirty eight percent on them, and this year he's at forty nine 92 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,480 percent. Kawhi is also up big from forty two percent last year on catching 93 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:09,040 shoot threes, He's at forty eight percent this season. It's the hardened effect. 94 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,839 He's elevating everyone and you're seeing all these high efficiency stat lines each and 95 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:16,720 every night out there, and that to me, has created the biggest margin 96 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,759 for air for this team, where they can miss nine free throws against OKC, 97 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,000 which is unbelievable, and still find a way to win the game because 98 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,040 they hit twenty three pointers. They absorbed sixteen three pointers made by ok SEE 99 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:33,040 on just thirty four attempts. They hit twenty, they missed nine free throws, 100 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,800 They go on a fourteen to two runs to end the ball game, 101 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,000 and you get this score where they win by eleven in a really tight back 102 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,399 and forth affair. Yeah, it's been really cool to see, and it's 103 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:48,839 funny I've you know, as we talk about in the amount of catch and 104 00:07:48,839 --> 00:07:54,519 shoot threes that Paul George has gotten more of. It reminded me of his 105 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:58,279 quote when he talked about Docs coaching when he was on the All the Smoke 106 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,040 podcast a couple of years ago. He said Doc was trying to play me 107 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:03,360 as a Ray Allen er jj Reddick all pinned downs. I could do it, 108 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,000 but that ain't my game because they have James Harden now and there's a 109 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,519 better point guard to facilitate these things and keep it working. It is his 110 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,399 game now and he has embraced it. You know, Harden had to adjust 111 00:08:15,399 --> 00:08:18,000 and PG had to adjust too, right, We talked about you know, 112 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:22,279 Harden had the more extreme example of not taking catch and shoot threes like to 113 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,519 the to the full extent, but PG had to get a little used to 114 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,360 it too, right, Like you have some good numbers in year Adam. 115 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:33,279 Just the amount of catch and shoot threes percentage rise has gone up so much 116 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,960 for PG. Yeah, it's up about fifteen percent from last season. And 117 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:41,200 he's always been capable of this stuff. I don't know if Russo had that 118 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,960 too, but I just saw your name. That's so funny. It's good. 119 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,919 A little updyke uh too good? Uh so? Yeah, just the 120 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:54,320 way he's been able to blend in because there was real concern that could he 121 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:00,080 get lost in the shovel in this shuffle somehow with him being more of a 122 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,679 third option, a self imposed third option, if he wasn't aggressive enough. 123 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:09,720 Now with James Harden and his scoring prowess. With Kawhi Leonard and the way 124 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,080 he's been playing, would Paul George be able to stay aggressive because that's always 125 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,480 been the concern, and aggressive Paul George is my favorite. Paul George. 126 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,320 When he is an attack mode, you are at your best as a team. 127 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,080 And that hasn't happened really at all outside of you know, the first 128 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,519 five games with James Harden and him, you know in that Dallas game where 129 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,320 he said he was trying to do the little things, but he's killing that. 130 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,480 He's done with that, so I'm really proud of the way he's playing. 131 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:39,240 He's having one of his best seasons. All three of these guys I 132 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:43,519 think legitimately have cases of course, to be an All Star. Kawhi Leonard, 133 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:48,039 Paul George, James Harden. The numbers, the classic traditional box score 134 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:54,080 numbers with James Harden aren't large because he's only taken eleven shots per game, 135 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,080 but he's got a four to one assist to turnover ratio. And then when 136 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,480 you just think about impact and look at some the advanced numbers and how much 137 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,720 he's made everyone else better around him impact wise, I think he's deserving of 138 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:09,960 an All Star vote, an impact All Star if you were Adam's Impact All 139 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,879 Stars. It doesn't really work that way, but I'm with you. I 140 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:20,360 agree with the sentiment. Sometimes when they're super teams and you see like, 141 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,399 Okay, Draymond Green, are his numbers big? No, But he was 142 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,039 an All Star still, even back with Chris Bosh with the Miami Heat. 143 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,879 He was an All Star still with the Boston Celtics, and they're Big four, 144 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,960 they had all them being All Stars before. I think it happened with 145 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,039 Detroit one year back when they had you know, Rashid Wallace, round four 146 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,480 oh five. It's happened if you are also getting a ton of wins. 147 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:46,480 So I think it's gonna come down to where they are at seating wise when 148 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:50,080 the All Star voting ends. If they're a top two seed in the West, 149 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:52,559 I think there's a very good chance a lot of people look at it 150 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:56,159 and say, oh, this is the James Harden effect. He's helped turn 151 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,480 this thing around and they're having one of their best regular seasons. Is not 152 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:03,440 a coincid. It's all these guys numbers are up, and that that could 153 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,440 be the thing that puts him over the top, but that gonna be easy, 154 00:11:05,919 --> 00:11:09,159 I think also to Harden. You know, Draymond Green is disliked, 155 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:13,679 but the Warriors have such a giant fan base too. People hate James Harden, 156 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,960 which I like, not for no real reason, which I think hurts 157 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,080 his case too, which sucks. Guy flew from Taiwan to see him. 158 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:26,559 Yeah. Yeah, given his relationship with China, I wonder what happens from 159 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,159 that, if anything, But we'll see. That's a different topic for a 160 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:33,480 podcasts. They got the Paul George the extension. We've kind of alluded to 161 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,320 it here will When do you think I knew it was gonna be a TV 162 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,759 show? Riven? There what we've heard, Like, you know, we 163 00:11:41,759 --> 00:11:45,480 heard the quote from James Harden he wants to retire a Clipper, which is 164 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:48,120 like cool, sure, right, let's let's get this. He also did 165 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,000 bring up, you know, like he wanted the same thing on his last 166 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:58,639 team's right. Yeah, this Paul George extension, it doesn't have to get 167 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,600 done at any time, so I guess selfishly I would like it done sooner 168 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,600 rather than later, so we know what we can give James Harden, right, 169 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:11,080 Yeah, absolutely, Look, I think from a long term perspective, 170 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,679 it makes sense to get it done earlier, and obviously you want to see 171 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,759 that deal done. We've talked about this ad nauseum, but like it's not 172 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:22,639 like the Clippers really have any other choice. Like we know that that at 173 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,679 least the Paul George contract is coming, likely gonna move you know, mountains 174 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:31,559 or whatever they have to do to get hardened in there as well. I 175 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,240 guess the thing with maybe waiting to do it right is you get the Kui 176 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,399 one out of the way, right, you get the fan base, you 177 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,600 know, sold on the idea that you know you're gonna have a big three 178 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,639 going in into it. I think that that's really important, especially with all 179 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,120 the into it. I don't want to say propaganda, but propaganda that we've 180 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:56,399 been seeing like it's propaganda, but it's propaganda. But that's fine. I'm 181 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,720 with it. I'm with the propaganda. I'm part of the Clippers propaganda machine. 182 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:07,879 But I think beyond that, look, maybe you wait on Paul George 183 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:13,799 because let's say you don't have a lot of flexibility between where you're at and 184 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:20,159 the second apron, which is like effectively a hard cap at this point. 185 00:13:20,879 --> 00:13:24,879 If you know what that number is, and that's not the number that James 186 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:28,759 Harden was really thinking about. Do you want to continue the rest of the 187 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,039 season with a guy who I'm not saying that he would be, but like 188 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,279 that has once again the potential to create a rift in the locker room, 189 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:43,039 to create create something like that. I also think you gotta be wondering about 190 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,039 what this injury looks like for Viza Zubats. You gotta be thinking about what 191 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,399 the rest of the roster looks like as well. So on one hand, 192 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:54,879 yes, I very much want to see the Paul George deal sign sealed delivered, 193 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,080 But I understand at the same time, like why why it might be 194 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,759 taking longer, and why there might actually even be benefits to waiting and seeing 195 00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:09,879 with a couple of things, Because you, I mean, if you are 196 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:15,399 in the very fortunate situation where you are able to retain all three moving forward, 197 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:20,360 you are in a pickle. So I think it makes sense to test 198 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:24,679 your options and test the waters before you commit to even two thirds of it. 199 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:28,799 Right. I'm just glad people are at the point where they want to 200 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,600 see if Paul George deal gets done, Because you know, I'm old enough 201 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:37,159 to remember back when they want him traded for Scoot Henderson and they could just 202 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,000 reload around Scoot and Kawhi and that would somehow be a championship ready team. 203 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:45,639 I think Scoot shooting about thirty five percent of the field his rookie year. 204 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:46,960 I don't know. Well, you got a lot of talk about that during 205 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,960 the summer, but I guess that's over with. I'm I'm happy for Paul 206 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,159 George. I hope he's a long time Clipper. I wouldn't be surprised that 207 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,919 the deal gets done, you know, anytime soon here during the season. 208 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,759 It's great to see him kind of come into his own and find the best 209 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:11,080 version of himself while not even necessarily always being the number one or the number 210 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:16,600 two, but he can affect the game so much being a number three because 211 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,840 he's talked about it postgame where the third best player is guarding me most nights, 212 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:26,080 So it's pretty easy out there. And that is the problem. And 213 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,600 when I talk about the unsolvable problem that the Clippers are creating, just pick 214 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:33,519 your boys. How do you want to lose this game? Do you want 215 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:37,799 to lose it by double team in Kawhi? Do you want to lose it 216 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,360 by playing them? Straight up and letting them iso and go to work on 217 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:46,679 you with these great isolation players, do you want to leave hard and alone 218 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,399 and not double or not pick him up and try to slow down that pick 219 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,639 and roll and just let him shoot go under it. I don't know what 220 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,639 you do against this team, and that's what makes them so difficult to beat 221 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:03,159 right now. Now now there's injuries going on, we'll talk more about that, 222 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:06,360 and they make it a little bit easier to beat on one end of 223 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:11,279 the court soon. But I am very happy with the results, as everyone 224 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,399 should be. Twenty three and seven last thirty games, nobody better eighteen and 225 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,639 wins in their last twenty two ball games going back to December first, and 226 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:26,000 like, there's a ton of work to be done. But the fact that 227 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:30,080 they can still get better and you don't feel like they've peaked. No one's 228 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,720 like, oh man, we got to bottle this up and just bring it 229 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:36,960 into the playoffs. There's some of that, sure, but they could still 230 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,799 grow within the regular season. There is still time to improve right now and 231 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:47,440 figure out even more wrinkles and become more multiple in the way you can beat 232 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,200 teams and just finding more ways to beat your opponent than they have ways to 233 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:59,000 beat you. Tends to lead to a lot of success. Like tighter defense 234 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,279 consistently, I think is something that's going to look a lot different for this 235 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:07,000 team. And we've seen flashes of it, uh you know, we've even 236 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,160 seen it win them games in in that OKAYC game, but we haven't seen 237 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,000 it as dialed in as I think that it can be and at the level 238 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:19,720 that it will need to be if they're going to make a deep playoff run, 239 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:23,039 if if they're going to get past a Denver or something like that, 240 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,039 like they're gonna have to, they're gonna have to find some different ways to 241 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,279 slow teams down. And there's no stopping a lot of these guys. But 242 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,559 you know, some of the easy transition stuff some you know that there's just 243 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,640 there's some pretty easy things to iron out, and then there's you know, 244 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,720 rotation wise and scheme wise things that they can figure out and tighten up a 245 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:47,359 little bit, which I think will take longer. I mean, over the 246 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,119 last fifteen games, well they have the number one offense, they're twenty third 247 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,319 defensively over that time, I think most people would say that's a little bit 248 00:17:53,319 --> 00:18:00,160 shocking. I think if you take out two games though, without Kahila or 249 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,000 the Boston game and the OKC game on the road, that faults them back 250 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 into a big a top ten defense, like they were so bad. It's 251 00:18:07,079 --> 00:18:11,920 just those two games and a fifteen game sample size that you take those out 252 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,559 and they're back to be a top ten, but the defense did soff for 253 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,599 a giant loss. In with the Aviza Zubots news, we're gonna talk about 254 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,000 kind of how we thought plumbly looked as a starter and which side of the 255 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:26,720 ball is more affected with Zoo's absence. Coming up after this break. If 256 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:29,440 you're listening, the ads have been loud for some people, that's been the 257 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,640 case for you, go ahead and turn it down. We got ads and 258 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:36,160 then some Zoo talk and some roster talk coming up in three two one. 259 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:40,519 All right, So welcome back in Eclipse and did we talked a little bit 260 00:18:40,599 --> 00:18:45,440 about the great season that Kawhi and Paul George are having in tandem this year. 261 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,759 Now we're talking about some not so good news on the season as we 262 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:52,240 are currently maybe half a week, not even a full week, into the 263 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:59,319 four weeks that Avitza Zubots is expected to be out and that's at a minimum. 264 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,640 We saw Mason Plumley in the starting lineup against Okac. There's some good 265 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,799 I think, you know, we're all in agreement. Defensively, it's gonna 266 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:14,839 be an issue for the Clippers without that anchor. But what do you guys 267 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,759 think? What do you guys think? I mean, what side of the 268 00:19:17,759 --> 00:19:22,920 ball is most hurt? I think that it's it's pretty obvious. I think 269 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:29,640 that we have a couple guys who can do some like eight, like eighty 270 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,079 percent pretty consistently of what zoo Bots can do offensively. Defensively, I don't 271 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:41,319 think anybody is close. Not close, not particularly close, if I'm being 272 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,079 honest. Not a knock on knock, not a knock on either guy. 273 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,559 Because Zoo has been really really good this season. I would say he's been 274 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:56,880 I mean easily top fifteen, probably top ten center in the league. So 275 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,680 they got their work cutout for them. I don't know. Where are you 276 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:03,920 at, Chuck, Where are you at on this loss? Is it over? 277 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:11,759 Okay? I think about it like that. Yeah, man, I 278 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:17,559 do not think it's over. I think we saw, you know, I 279 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:21,920 think I was really encouraged by obviously the winning against Okay see, Tyler had 280 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:23,759 very little time to kind of prepare even the first game or sorry, the 281 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,640 loss against Minnesota. Tyler had so little time to prepare for Zoo being out 282 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,759 for that game, and we still were able to scheme up some stuff that 283 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,240 made it harder for the Timberwls than they wanted it to be, right, 284 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:37,799 Like, we almost ended up winning that game. It was great he got 285 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:41,359 some more time. We played very well against against the Thunder. We saw 286 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,279 Plumbly come out and be incredibly efficient, you know, with some juice after 287 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:48,319 his return. But it's the defensive side of the ball, You're right, 288 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,359 Like by a mile is what I think Clippers fans should be watching more for 289 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,000 when Zoo is out, right, Like, let's see what happens at that 290 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,720 start. You know that that's starting five net rating over these four weeks, 291 00:20:57,799 --> 00:21:00,440 right, Like, I'm I have no doubt that it's still going to be 292 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,920 a positive net rating, But I don't know if it's I think it's what 293 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,480 like plus fourteen or something right now or in that range, Like I don't 294 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:11,759 expect it to be like that, but Mason has we've talked about, you 295 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:15,640 know, the timing of this stuff and Zoo talked about it to Till marrizarli 296 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,079 over at clutch points how this is gonna happen in the playoffs. It's gonna 297 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:22,839 happen closer to the playoffs. We're getting Plumbly back when Zoo goes down. 298 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,839 So this is really unfortunate. It's a reevaluation in four weeks. But I'm 299 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,960 excidedly nervous to see what Tyler cooks up on the defense event, because you 300 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,880 can't play the same defense with Plumbley as you can with Zoo. They just 301 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,920 guard differently, right, So I don't know. Adam. I think that's 302 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,160 part of the reason he went with Terrence Man in the fourth quarter against Okay. 303 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:47,799 See, just because you don't have the back line defense, you have 304 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,880 to be better at the point of attack. It also provided more switchability. 305 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,920 They would hunt Norman Pale. Granted he was two for ten I think in 306 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,599 that game, but still it's Norman freaking pal shooting fifty eight percent and fourth 307 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,519 quarters and fifty five percent from three. You trust him in late game situations, 308 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,119 and they went with Terrence Mann, so maybe more of him, more 309 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,359 of a mere coffee out there. Russ has to bring it defensively at the 310 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,079 point of attack, and I thought he had some good possessions against SGA. 311 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:21,559 I was watching that matchup closely. But there is no way to replace someone 312 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:26,079 as good as a beats A Zubots, who has been an unsung hero, 313 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:33,119 who is kind of in that thankless profession type situation where you know, he 314 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:37,839 only stands out when he plays bad, like an offensive lineman sometimes because people 315 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,240 just expect him, oh, he better dunk that. I mean, well, 316 00:22:40,279 --> 00:22:42,720 yeah, you should be doing blocking all those shots. It's absurd. 317 00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:49,599 But if you look at a defensive field goal percentage within six feet, he's 318 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,079 only giving up shots within six feet fifty percent of the time. They're only 319 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:57,640 shooting fifty percent within six feet of the rim against him. You take that 320 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,000 as Daniel Tice, He's at fifty seven percent in that area, which is 321 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:06,319 kind of solid for a guy who's six's eight, But they're shooting seven 322 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,839 percent better within six feet. Mason plumb Lee, I went back to last 323 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,200 year when he was in that starting role, playing more minutes with the Charlotte 324 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,240 Hornets. He was giving up shots at sixty percent. So there's a ten 325 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:25,480 percent chasm difference there between Vitza Zubots and his rent protection versus Mason Plumley, 326 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,480 anyone who falls in love with reverse dunks and some of the passing and ball 327 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:34,160 handling of Mason Plumbley, which is all great. I love Big plumb back 328 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,519 up Biggs in the league and could start for some teams. Obviously, what 329 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,279 you are missing with the Vitza zubots cannot be duplicated and is far more important 330 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:48,559 than those things. That's why he's been an elite rent protector for his career 331 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:51,839 with the Clippers. He's only given up fifty two percent at the rim. 332 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,119 He has been like this. It's not a one year thing where all of 333 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,920 a sudden he turned things around and has been this defensive stalwart. He's always 334 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,279 been mister reliable and that area. This year we've just seen him more on 335 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,000 the offensive end, working with James Harden to the pick and roll, and 336 00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:08,000 that's gonna be missed too, guys. Now, I do think Mayson Plumbley's 337 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:11,359 always been good in the pick and roll because he was rodding with Brooklyn with 338 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:17,160 Darren Williams before his ankles fell off and you got kenkles or whatever. He 339 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,119 Mayson Plumbley's played with LaMelo, He's played with pick and roll guys. He's 340 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,920 adept at it, and he was five to five in that game from the 341 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,720 field for I think fourteen points against OKC, and I think James Harden found 342 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:34,480 him for at least a couple of easy ones. So defensively, they got 343 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,920 to do it collectively. They got to be better at the point of attack. 344 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,160 You got to take up the challenge of staying in front of your man. 345 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:42,880 Kawhi I don't know. I don't think he can be any better than 346 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,720 he has been on back line defense, which has also been vital for this 347 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:49,680 team. Yes, totally. That lock on Sga is my favorite player of 348 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,680 the season to this point. I just think it speaks to what Kawhi Leonard's 349 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,880 all about, and you know a little bit of poetic justice or whatever is 350 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,640 Sga versus the person all these things. It was a big moment two point 351 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,119 game, and then the Clippers ended up blowing them out because PG thirteen was 352 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,640 so hot. But defensively, everybody has to raise their level play Offensively, 353 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,519 it's gonna be interesting. I think they're si gonna light teams up, Yeah, 354 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,240 right, Like offensively, I'm like sure, steady as she goes for 355 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:22,240 like not totally, but a lot of the time right like Plumbing's a decent 356 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:23,240 pass. He's gonna be like you said, he's gonna be good in the 357 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:29,160 role. There's been a bunch of talk. Zach Lowe mentioned he's hearing the 358 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,559 Clippers are looking for a backup center or a tweener forward, which I don't 359 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:38,200 really think surprises anybody. Kelly Olinnock has been brought up a couple of times 360 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,680 by him, but he mentions he's not sure what aange's asking price would be. 361 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:47,440 Kelly Olinok has one year left at twelve million dollars. Would what do 362 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:51,720 you think? And we PJ and Bones work straight up for Kelly Olinick if 363 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,000 we want to get PJ. Tucker off the team, and if they valued 364 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:56,279 Bones, but we don't know what age wants, probably some picks. I 365 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:02,720 guess, uh, what do you value at will? Would you I don't 366 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,920 think you'd part with the twenty thirty for him? But where would would you 367 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,799 stuff some seconds? Some people were talking crazy on Twitter? Would you stuff 368 00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:18,240 some seconds with PJ and Bones if they wanted that? No, you're getting 369 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:25,319 a young you're getting a young player and PJ Tucker? Okay, maybe a 370 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,920 second? Yeah, I think that, you know, I think like that 371 00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:32,799 trade in a second, it's like, sure, I think it's the minutes 372 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:36,279 become weird because Tyson is here too, like we have three center. But 373 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,599 yeah, I I mean, I like the idea. It's it's definitely some 374 00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:44,279 interesting depth. He can kind of stretch the floor, But like, how 375 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,359 much do you really see him playing in a playoff scenario with another center on 376 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,680 the floor. Sure? Yeah, and we're not moving Tys to the floor. 377 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,640 Please don't tweet at us that they should do Tyson another center out there, 378 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,880 Adam where you're out on Kelly Olyn. I like Olyinic. I think 379 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,160 against a team like the Lakers, he'd be very useful in a playoff setting 380 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,920 if that was a first round matchup because they like to go big. And 381 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,599 you know, Christian wood A d olynic Zobots or Plumbley or somebody like that. 382 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,960 I'm a fan, I am, because you can shoot it from the 383 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,720 outside. Problem is Utah's playing so damn well. Are they going to be 384 00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:23,559 sellers at this point or they do they want to look like they're sellers. 385 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,720 Also, when you throw bones in there, that hurts my heart. I 386 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:33,880 don't like it. I don't like thinking about that. I know it may 387 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,039 take someone that you know you gotta give to get this, you don't want 388 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:42,599 to let go. But I'm hoping it's second round Picks and PJ Tucker. 389 00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:48,640 I think the Tucker thing would be a little easier to stomach if it weren't 390 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,079 for that extra year, because you're not saving any money. I like, 391 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,680 it's a it's just an easier sell to me, if you know, if 392 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:03,559 if that wasn't, if that wasn't the situation, there's yeah, I mean 393 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,000 maybe in Boston. Uh, Like, I don't like throwing any names out 394 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,640 there, to be honest, I don't want the first to leave. But 395 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:15,039 in this hypothetical that was brought up by Zach Lowe, who I did talk 396 00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:18,039 to the other night, I shook his hand. I was like, I 397 00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:22,200 fucking love your commentary. He was all zelped every no, get out of 398 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,599 here. He's great. Yeah, yeah, he's awesome, and he loves 399 00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:30,039 the advanced numbers and all the things that GM's and coaches look at. Now. 400 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,559 Yeah, so I like Olenk. I don't know what it would take 401 00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:37,160 to get him. I hope not much. Yeah. So that that was 402 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,279 the other part, like someone, uh, will you mentioned the PJ. 403 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,839 Tucker thing. I can't remember where that report came from, but there was 404 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,000 like some scuttle butt that I saw around that he would maybe like the Wizards 405 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,799 would be open to trading for him and buying him out. But in that 406 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,480 scenario, it's either like the Clippers are attaching someone who's good and cheap, 407 00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:03,200 like I say it Brandon Boston Junior or a mere coffee or they're taking on 408 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,960 a bad contract from Washington who happens to have a bad contract in Landry Shammitt 409 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:14,960 as a bad contract who I completely forgot was on the Washington Wizards. But 410 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,000 I don't know how feasible that is. Sham it makes ten million this year, 411 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:21,200 non guaranteed, eleven million next year, and then a team option the 412 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:22,720 year after that. So like, I mean, that would be great because 413 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,839 he'd just be off the books immediately. But again, I guess I have 414 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,200 no idea what the Wizards are doing, but I would be okay with that. 415 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,599 I don't know, just for some flexibility. You're not the only one 416 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,079 that they're in a complete rebuild. I mean, Michael Winger has a plan, 417 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:45,519 no doubt, but yeah, it's it's a rough, hard rebuild. 418 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:52,720 And Jordan Poole Man, it's not good and interesting so that I don't know 419 00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:57,720 if if they bought out PJ. Tucker, who do you think picks him 420 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:02,119 up? Is that a shit you where you know, like Phoenix getting Eric 421 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,079 Gordon? Eric Gordon, excuse me and you start to regret. I just 422 00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:10,079 don't know. I don't know how much you're regretting that one at this point, 423 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,559 not at all. Yeah, I'd love it if got it, oh, 424 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:18,680 PJ. Eric Gordon, Like, I think it's I think, and 425 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,279 I don't know how often it actually happens, but I think that it's like 426 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:27,000 malpractice when a team is like hoarding a player of that level because they just 427 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,160 don't want it wanted to go to a competitor, Like I think that's a 428 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:34,279 pretty shitty move, to be perfectly honest. I also would love it if 429 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:38,359 the Sun's got PJ. Tucker. Yeah, that would be great for us. 430 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,960 I still think he has you took in the right situation, uh, 431 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:51,559 and could give teams trouble if I but he may be cursed because Carl Tart 432 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,279 has his jersey. He just got his jersey delivered in the last jersey he 433 00:30:56,359 --> 00:31:00,440 got was John Wall so he may be curse. He may have the tart 434 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:06,480 jersey curse. Does that just mean he's gonna be gone cursed traded? Yes? 435 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:08,119 No, no, No, He's not gonna have like, you know, 436 00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:11,799 birds poop on his head randomly or anything like that. He's just gonna 437 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:21,039 gets a bunch of weight NASTI is utility on a bunch of teams. Does 438 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,599 he make good pretzels or something like? What what are you referring to? 439 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:26,680 He's a good defender. He still is a good defender. I know he 440 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:30,920 stopped taking three pointers, but I've seen enough with him against Jokic, even 441 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,839 this year and then going back to last year with Philly, Like he can 442 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:41,839 still defend Jokic, He could still defend Zion Williamson in five to ten minutes. 443 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,519 I think in a playoff series he can. Uh, he could help 444 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,720 you. I don't know if it's swing a game, what's below a swing? 445 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,960 Uh? Uh? He could uh carousel like you. I see what 446 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,599 you're saying. Though, he can help you. He can help you in 447 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,839 the right amount of minutes in with against the right opponent, four minutes against 448 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:10,400 a very bad opponent. Okay, Chris, Chris Jokich, Chris Boucher is 449 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:16,400 the next one. ESPN said PJ in some seconds could maybe get this done. 450 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,200 But I'm not sure that's true at all, because I think he maybe 451 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,440 has a little more value than that. He's got the size and switchability people 452 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:28,440 want. He lax offensive juice. I don't know if he would play more 453 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,519 than PJ. Like, I guess you would be taking Kobe Brown's spot in 454 00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:35,160 the rotation, Like that's Who's minutes would be on the line here, right 455 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:39,440 if they make a trade for anyone this level and therefore, I mean Kobe 456 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,920 Brown's been out of the rotation for real minutes, Franks, now a mirror 457 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:47,480 is lopped up in that position. I mean, he'd be going back to 458 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,279 Toronto. He was there for a year, right, e J. Tucker. 459 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,720 I don't know. I don't know exactly know what they're up to either. 460 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,000 They're in like a soft rebuilt situation where they want to compete a little 461 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,519 but also get better and you get younger. Would they buy them ount afterwards? 462 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,440 I don't know. I mean I like the move for the Clippers obviously, 463 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:13,000 Yeah, if they could pull that off, Yeah, I feel like 464 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,640 I don't even want a trade. I know, like there's this idea, 465 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,839 these ideas that we need another Big four or something like that, but there's 466 00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:23,680 no one cheap enough to not that I think is worth disrupting what the top 467 00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:28,440 of the Clippers roster is doing right now. I mean, yeah, I 468 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,960 agree with you, and like at this point, I guess it just it 469 00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:37,039 really depends on what the what the team that you're doing business with is looking 470 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:43,640 for. But like I mean, Adam said, bones, I think bones 471 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,519 would be a pretty hard give. I mean, as much as a mer 472 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,839 has like really lifted his value, you'd have to be getting, like I 473 00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:57,279 feel like you'd have to be getting back a pretty nice piece. I'd lose 474 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,400 to give up that because the thing is with his team is, like you 475 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,720 know, we already talked about the contracts for the Big three, They're just 476 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,480 gonna be so limited in what they can do. You need good cheap players. 477 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,880 You just you need good cheap players so bad. That's part of the 478 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,719 reason that the Warriors were able to establish a dynasty is because they got these 479 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,920 like they got guys on good contracts. They had really good luck or bad 480 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,760 injury luck, however you want to look at it. But like this stuff 481 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,719 matters, and it matters with an aging team that needs to continue a sort 482 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,519 of championship window, it's really difficult to me to foresee giving up that sort 483 00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:37,440 of young town. Even Look, I know Bones isn't playing right now, 484 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,719 he's not in the rotation, but that doesn't mean he's not in the rotation 485 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,960 next year, or that there's not moments for him. Because every year two, 486 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,840 one, three plus now Harden gets a little bit older, and I 487 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:57,800 don't expect them to replicate this absolutely incredible season that they've had for the rest 488 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,360 of those three four years. You know, I'm not saying anything negative about 489 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,840 them, but like, you know, as you get up there thirty five, 490 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,320 you know, it gets a lot harder to do man, like even 491 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,400 you know, even for Lebron, Like even even for the people who have 492 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,280 had the most longevity, Like, that's a big ask. And the way 493 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,119 that you can take some of that off is obviously by having guys who can 494 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,639 step up in their place. But when you're this limited by the second apron, 495 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,519 like they gotta be cheap guys too, Like, it's even harder. 496 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,920 Not only do they have to be good guys who are younger than your stars, 497 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,360 they also got to be not making a lot of money and boys that 498 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,960 skelet skeleton key nickname didn't come out of nowhere. Bones was on his way. 499 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:43,320 You look at the preseason and then the first four games of the regular 500 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:50,519 season seventeen twelve, eighteen seventeen, Bones was doing work like he was really 501 00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,639 turning a corner. Everybody, to a man said he was the one guy 502 00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:59,280 that looked different that made a big leap during training camp. Kawhi Leonard could 503 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,840 see it. I think, man, it would be rough to get rid 504 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,159 of Bones. That would be tough on me. That would be I mean, 505 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,679 I wouldn't do that podcast if it did, I wouldn't. You wouldn't 506 00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:14,280 speak on it. We would still have a camera, but it would just 507 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,800 be an empty chair. Just no, I'll like turn my back in the 508 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,440 corner, like the guy at the end of blair Witch. Like, yeah, 509 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:25,559 just standing in the corner. Blair. I need to revisit Blair Witch. 510 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,280 Fantastic right now, I'm really going to revisit it. Such a great 511 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,239 movie. Okay, now more Blair Witch talk. No, uh, we 512 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,480 actually I want to put this is something we've never done on this show. 513 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,320 This is something we've never done on this show. I would like to put 514 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,039 the kabash on something. If you guys would like to hear me out. 515 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:50,360 We can't talk about James Harden again. Back to that or this idea I 516 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,920 saw first on Twitter from uh Clipper Spencer from Clipper Spencer, the head of 517 00:36:55,559 --> 00:37:00,360 the Batoon Battalion, great, great guy, great Clippers fan. And then 518 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,000 someone who only communicates to Will and I who is a fan of the podcast 519 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:09,800 via linked in messages, sent us this idea too. Draymond Green does not 520 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:17,280 need to be a Clipper. Stop telling us that it doesn't make any sense. 521 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,079 I don't I like that. How would that work contractually? Contractually? 522 00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:28,559 It's making so much money, Yeah, he's making like twenty four, twenty 523 00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:31,840 five or something like that. Basketball wise, with what the Clippers are doing 524 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:37,079 right now, you want to trade for Draymond Green. There's already like so 525 00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:42,559 many rotation players that he couldn't play next to just because he's coming off the 526 00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:45,840 benches, or we're gonna change the starting lineup where he's the starting four now 527 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,360 and we change the whole starting lineup like it's yeah, but he's coming off 528 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:57,039 the bench. It's what with I mean tis at some point like it I 529 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:05,320 just don't. I'm a huge fan of Draymond's career, but sure, but 530 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,360 the other twenty it blows to the head. But no, madam, am 531 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,239 I wrong? Like, am I wrong to to propose a kabash on this 532 00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:20,440 idea? I don't think so. If we're gonna put a kebash on James 533 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,000 Harden talk this summer when it was a very realistic possibility, I see this 534 00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:29,400 as much less of one. He makes twenty five million next year, twenty 535 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,800 five, the year after that, twenty seven, the year after that is 536 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,320 a player option, but I don't know at that point he'll be thirty six. 537 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,480 I think he's making a lot of money. I think he's the type 538 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,400 of guy that could help any team. But that is a huge commitment to 539 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,039 a team that we were just talking about earlier still looks to be signing Paul 540 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:51,280 George and James Harden. We're all expecting that to happen. I don't. 541 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:54,199 I don't see it. I just it's not that it wouldn't fit or he 542 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,960 couldn't help. I just don't see it within the structure of the salary cap 543 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,960 happening really yeah, like if any functional like if you look at this, 544 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:07,000 if you look at the Clippers payroll, and you stop at NORM and then 545 00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:12,719 you take everyone below norm because norms are like ten, Like an eight for 546 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,280 one would work. But you're telling me you would want to include anyone norm 547 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,039 and above on that list a trade for Draymond Green. Like, I don't 548 00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:25,480 usually react ideas like this, but I just really don't understand. Yeah, 549 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,119 shut it down, Chuck, shut it shut. We're shutting it down. 550 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,000 The only the only way we're gonna make sure this doesn't happen is if we 551 00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:39,039 convince Carl Tart to by a custom Draymond Green Clipper's jersey, which would be 552 00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:46,920 an all time bit. Oh wait, will Adam pitch Adam the idea we 553 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,280 had for the Michael Jordan uh impersonator outside Staple Center. Oh okay, So 554 00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:55,559 I mean talk about real basketball stuff after that. If you're from Los Angeles, 555 00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:00,960 you're familiar with the with the uh Michael Jordan impersonator off and outside of 556 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,559 games. Also, you just see him on the on the metro and stuff 557 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:07,800 sometimes. Anyways, I was thinking, Charles looks about as much like Larry 558 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,920 Bird as that guy does like Michael Jordan. What do you think would happen 559 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,639 if Chuck just tossed on the Celtics. Jersey went out there and I don't 560 00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:20,719 know, spun of basketball on his finger. That's a fun bit. A 561 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,880 lot of Lakers fans saying, fuck the Celtics. Oh yeah, well in 562 00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:30,960 your face. They'll still find you. We could, old white dudes. 563 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,559 They'll want their picture taken with you. Yeah, that's true. Are you 564 00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:37,480 gonna make like eighty bucks a day? But yeah, okay, but it's 565 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,159 a good bit idea. I think his I think his reaction would be good. 566 00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:44,440 It'd be a funny bit. Yeah. Also his reaction like when Larry 567 00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:49,320 Birds walking out, just full like full kit like long thought like, yeah, 568 00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:53,800 be it'd be very fun. All right, coming up shoes, Oh 569 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,880 I'm wearing the weapons, the coor what he used to wear. All right, 570 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,239 I'm we're talking the wall, the into It dome wall propaganda. As 571 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,840 Will Updyke would say after this ad break, the AD's been lauded for some 572 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,719 people. If that's been your case, go ahead and turn it down. 573 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,519 We got ads and then into It stuff coming up in three to one. 574 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,079 Hey, welcome back into Clips and Dip Episode forty two of season two. 575 00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,880 I'm at a Maslin. We got Chuck Mockler, and Will Updyke here no 576 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,840 Clippers games till Sunday. They have an early one going up against the Brooklyn 577 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,199 Nets of their sloppy second situation where the Lakers get them first on a Friday 578 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,519 night, but coming in August. The Into It Dome will already be hosting 579 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:44,920 musical events concerts midway through August, but more importantly, they're hosting the All 580 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,800 Star Game in twenty twenty six. Elle, it sounds like it is a 581 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,559 Clippers exclusive, no features. It's not them and the Lakers sharing All Star 582 00:41:54,639 --> 00:42:00,480 hosting responsibilities. It's just on the Clippers at Into It Dome, which speaks 583 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,360 to where this franchise is come or how far it's come. Chuck, It's 584 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,119 pretty incredible. Can you imagine if they were trying to coordinate events between Staples 585 00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:15,519 Center and the Into It Dome, like just with the traffic and stuff. 586 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:19,920 I just I think it would be a nightmare. Sure, oh, it'd 587 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,159 be one of the worst All Stars on record. You could go for them 588 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:28,280 and Into It Dome. But yeah, we were talking with Pavvy of Hoops 589 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,440 and Bruce shout out Hoops and Bruce shot out Pavvy about how funny. It 590 00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:32,960 is for all the people who are going to visit LA for the first time 591 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,800 and be like All Star weekend, let's do it, and like be staying 592 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,639 in Sherman Oaks and then be like yeah, I'd be like, all right, 593 00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:45,599 how are we getting down there? Let's lift on over. What's it 594 00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:51,280 gonna take fifteen twenty minutes? Anyway, I'm very excited for this. It's 595 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,519 incredible the Clippers are hosting this. It's really cool. They're doing it outright. 596 00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:58,320 It's a nice test run, I guess, and like really cool spectacle 597 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,559 to show off the arena, which which what Balmber wants to do. But 598 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,599 yeah, the Olympics basketball is gonna be there too. It's gonna be sick. 599 00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,719 I hope I can go very least. I guess they'll be in the 600 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,039 parking lot or something. But yeah, I'm excited. Will, How are 601 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:15,599 you gonna get into it? Because he'll be doing your Larry, He'll be 602 00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:17,159 in the parking lot. I'll be like, I'm gonna take three point three 603 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,280 threes a game. That's what I want to do? Uh? Will? 604 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,480 How excited for the into it? Ome? Are you? Has the propaganda 605 00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:34,079 gotten to you yet? I'm very excited. I like that you're barely excitement. 606 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,800 They've been pushing the wall a lot. I don't know if if you're 607 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,239 listening to this podcast and you're not familiar with the wall, it's a group. 608 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,599 What is it? Like five thousand there's a whole five thousand people. 609 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:51,199 It's like the standing room only Clippers fans only section. Did I didn't realize 610 00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:53,239 it taking out back and shoot you if you're sitting there with it without Clippers 611 00:43:53,280 --> 00:44:00,960 Garing say come on back. Bomber got inspired by this after being at Kawhi's 612 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,519 jersey retirement at SDSU. Apparently I saw an sdsup's foot round, which is 613 00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:10,400 pretty cool. It doesn't doesn't LAFC do this? Yes, they absolutely do 614 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,480 with thirty two to fifty two or the three two five To excuse me, 615 00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:20,199 it's huge in soccer. I sawas tweeted someone was like, yeah, like, 616 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,000 I like how you pointed out they ripped this idea off from LAFC. 617 00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:25,159 And his response was really great. He's like, some idea should be ripped 618 00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:29,440 off. This is a great idea. Oh he's gonna make basketball awesome. 619 00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:32,400 Yeah no, it doesn't make the the idea any less good. I know, 620 00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:39,559 I'm behind this. I think I think that last game versus the Thunder 621 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:45,679 was like one of the more lively Clippers crowd started slow scene, yeah that 622 00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:50,239 I've seen in a while. Atmospheres, dude, they've been playing. Yeah, 623 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,960 definitely, definitely Yeah, like post that post that playoff run where Kawhi 624 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:59,320 went down in twenty one, I feel like that was like one of the 625 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,000 one of the more active crowds I've seen. So I think the Clippers fans 626 00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:07,000 deserve it. I think that it'll be I think that it's great for morale. 627 00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,239 I think that it's I think that it's a great idea. It's gonna 628 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:15,440 rock when it's full. Adam your thoughts on the wall, I mean being 629 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:21,679 down on it because it's not new. It's like, well, Nestall Stadium, 630 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,320 they get a new I've done to death. Everyone gets new arenas. 631 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,880 Eventually, this is nothing new here, new under the sun? Come on, 632 00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:35,719 Uh, It's cool. It's gonna be at least somewhat unique to the 633 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,800 NBA. Isn't that totally what's important? Having that college like atmosphere there and 634 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,800 that one section of the crowd. I think it's like what everyone says about 635 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,719 Utah, like part of the thing is like, that's a stadium that does 636 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,280 nothing but basketball. It's designed in a way that's like, you know, 637 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,199 it's it's it's advantageous for the home fans, and it's like an extra kind 638 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,960 of fun thing for the spectators. Yeah, it's a real home court advantage. 639 00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:05,599 They are good there regardless of what type of year they're having. They 640 00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:09,239 typically are always tough at home. Same with Denver, but there's more of 641 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:15,960 an altitude thing going on there. But I just like any home court advantage 642 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:21,719 within the rules that you can manufacture, I'm all for it. And so 643 00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,159 keeping it all Clippers fans, it sounds like they're going to be able to 644 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,000 pull that off. I wasn't sure about the Chuck mark and everything. And 645 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,880 then it's like, oh, you gotta buy like a Clippers jersey or something 646 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,119 like that, prove you're fan. That's that works. That's cool, all 647 00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:36,800 right, That part I'm not as big as a fan of. Well, 648 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,079 they don't have to buy Clippers gear. They just have to send a photo 649 00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:42,559 of them in Clippers gear. Yeah, but they can haven't had one. 650 00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:46,039 You can also purchase Clipper vision and that will help. I know. Carl 651 00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:50,360 Tart has his Chuck Mark. So if you want your Chuck Mark, go 652 00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:53,559 and do Do you get an honorary one? No, I don't get anything. 653 00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:57,840 Maybe I'll get an honorary wet Willie. Like Chuck the Conbo gave that 654 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,920 World War Two veteran that one time. That story cannot die. It's the 655 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,559 most insane thing a mascot has ever done. They were holding that man up 656 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,239 and Chuck the Condor gave him a you can get an honorary bad back. 657 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,800 Yeah, hey, yeah I inherited that. Yeah. I was thinking part 658 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,800 of the Larry Burden pressures. I would just be laying on my stomach on 659 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:22,320 a towel, just on my help. Yeah, beat Team USA. Well 660 00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:25,679 yeah, or we were thinking a funny bit would be like someone goes out 661 00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:29,159 to play, you know, the Michael Jordan guy one on one and then 662 00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:30,920 immediately gives a help, help, help, and then someone from the crowd 663 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,760 comes in with a double, you know, a little soft double. You 664 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,599 should be like, hey, you want to play one on one Bird versus 665 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:39,599 Magic, and then pull out the video game and be like, yeah, 666 00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:43,679 we're gonna do it like this, do this probably beat my hands on that 667 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,719 too. All right, One final thing before we send Clippers fans on their 668 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:54,320 way. Paul George is so close to saying Powell Rangers on podcast PET. 669 00:47:55,159 --> 00:48:00,519 Instead of Powell Rangers, he's saying Power Clippers, which makes me want to 670 00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:06,599 drive a nail into the back of my hand. But we're right there. 671 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,400 What I For whatever reason, they don't have as good of a wrketing departments 672 00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:14,880 as this podcast. Oh they don't. You got the Green Ranger in there? 673 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,719 R I P R I p that guy? This uh Power Rangers Green 674 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,679 Ranger stand up very rare and did cost me a pretty penny a few years 675 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:29,400 ago. No, Joe's not a pandemic by Yeah, that's right. I 676 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,719 don't I know. I know a quarantine buy when I see when I got 677 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:37,239 a couple of quarantine buys in my dead right now. This made me happy 678 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,000 for at least a week. This was my friend. This was my volleyball 679 00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:45,840 from castaway that I talked to. Well, I hope you hit it with 680 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:52,400 some bleach or something. When how do we get him to say Power Rangers? 681 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:53,880 How do we do it? Does we have to go on the show 682 00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:59,480 he's been on but again? Right? Does he have to go on again? 683 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,800 He's so close Power Clippers is insane. We got to get one of 684 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,679 the co hosts. I don't know if Paul George somebody here. It's as 685 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:15,599 simple as this, Dallas mayor Joey Lynn and Murray Andrew Griy, somebody bring 686 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:21,079 up the numbers with the Powell Rangers death lineup and call it the Powell Rangers 687 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:24,119 death lineup, and that will have a gain traction. Just ask somebody a 688 00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:28,400 question postgame about it. It's going to happen at some point. This is 689 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,800 why I'm mad that Will and I aren't allowed in the locker room anymore, 690 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,119 because we would definitely be like, have you heard the Power Rangers thing going 691 00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:37,280 up? Those were the kind of locker room way worst questions I know, 692 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,920 But we're not Tier one anymore. I also one time got to ask you, 693 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,760 remember when Patrick Patterson took that three against the Blazers and that guy like 694 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,480 kicked him in the head, like jumped super weird. I got to ask 695 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,119 Patrick Patterson if that was the first time he'd ever been kicked in the head 696 00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:55,119 on a three. Was pretty fun. Now we need the Power Rangers that 697 00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:59,000 we're so close. Eric Weed had such a good drawing of it. It's 698 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,400 gonna have a shirt soon. I remember Media day when I brought up all 699 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,280 of Mason Plumley's nicknames just so I could get to say big Plum. I 700 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,280 was like, you know, plum Dog, Millionaire, point Plumb, my 701 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,119 favorite, Big Plum, Big Plumb. People afterwards were like, that was 702 00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:16,159 a great question. That was awesome. Guys, they're being asked all these 703 00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:20,400 little you know, the same thing over and over again. Just rephrase, 704 00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:24,119 give them something different. Ask them about the Powell Rangers. It's a real 705 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,480 thing. They're like a plus sixty two and seventy five minutes or something like 706 00:50:28,519 --> 00:50:30,599 that on the court. I love that the Power Ranger is still here for 707 00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:35,320 this conversation because that adds credence to it. We're real about this. We 708 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,679 also we have Power Ranger comics that we need to get to. Got a 709 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,639 very friendly message from Ryan Perrow he has them for us anyway, anything else? 710 00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:49,079 I know Adam was very excited. Uh will as we send these people 711 00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:52,360 on their way for two more ish days of no Clippers basketball? Where could 712 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,760 they find us if they wanted to maybe listen more older episodes? Get yeah, 713 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,880 you can find this episode, all our episodes wherever you get your podcasts. 714 00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:05,480 We're on you know, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, Deezer, Amazon Music. 715 00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:09,119 If you check us out over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, you could 716 00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:13,199 leave us a little rating or review that would help this show out. If 717 00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:17,480 you want to get the whole thing unfiltered, just the whole darn podcast, 718 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,719 you gotta check it out over on YouTube. That's at Clippers Podcast. Yeah, 719 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,599 thank you so much to everybody who's who's rocking with us. I know 720 00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:30,199 it's a weird long break, but soon we're gonna be having games like more 721 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,320 than every other day. So quiet, find a friend during this break. 722 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,840 Guys, it's all good. We're gonna be doing. We do have the 723 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,960 brunch battle on Sunday. Will and I are gonna be live on YouTube after 724 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,079 that game, kind of hanging out shooting the breeze. Adam might might pop 725 00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:50,039 into doing a double dip after the game for that as well. Probably maybe 726 00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:57,239 who knows. We're kicked off, Adam. We got a positive thing we 727 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,559 want to end on for these Clippers fans. I didn't get to my blessings 728 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:07,800 in disguise part Oh, I'm gonna throw it on here. If Carlo Hemenez 729 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,280 brought this up, Chuck and I talked about it the other night. If 730 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:16,400 Mason Plumley doesn't get hurt against the Knicks with that ridiculous fly towards knee superman 731 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:22,119 move by Julius Randall that was incredibly dangerous. If that didn't happen, they 732 00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:27,360 wouldn't have Daniel Tye right now. They would not have Big Plumbley and Daniel 733 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,760 Tice to help figure this thing out and hold down the fort without it beats 734 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:36,400 Zoobos. Sometimes it feels like things happen for a reason. Scubos talked about 735 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,039 this in an exclusive with to Mayr earlier. But if this had happened in 736 00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:45,360 marsh during the seventeen games, if this had happened in April during the playoffs, 737 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,519 that would be much worse than the timing of it happening now while you 738 00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,599 have four days off with plenty of time to start to figure out some more 739 00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:58,079 schemes of how to work around not having Big Zoo collectively. So, I 740 00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:01,159 don't know. It just seems like the basketball gods are at least giving the 741 00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:06,679 Clippers a glance, just looking out for him slightly. This season, even 742 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,480 the schedule hasn't felt quite as treacherous. But I know I know what's coming, 743 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,320 so good, good things, even in an injury. You can see 744 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,400 the silver lining sometimes with this team. And maybe it'll make Zoo finally get 745 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,599 over this calf injury that he's had the last two seasons. He's been dealing 746 00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:24,639 with it. He just actually needs to get some real time off, which 747 00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:30,480 he's never had before, mister reliable. So that's that's all. I'm looking 748 00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:34,559 at it, glass half full all the time, you know me, fantastic, 749 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,719 glass half full. Adam Oslin will Updike, Chuck Mockler Signing off, 750 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,559 we thank you so much for listening. We back with you soon on Sunday, 751 00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:43,199 and as always, let's go Clips