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Streaming live on the iHeart Radio app. This is I on the Ball with

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Steve Rama and Jay Gonzalez on Fox
Sports fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back

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to I on the Ball here Fox
s wats fateen fifty. I'm Steve,

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He'sjay. Now we have Ryan le
brickingy. This is I on the Ball

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breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Start a little a little bit of

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you you let me try it again. Let's start with the University of Arizona

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news with soccer women's soccer. They
announced their twenty twenty four non comfort schedule

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today and I guess the conference schedule
released were released back in April. But

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they start their acthibition game August seventh
against UNLV and then August fifteenth they'll take

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on Grand Canyon for regular season and
then their home opener is on eighteenth versus

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Pacific. That is so her this
early. So so this is moros third

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thirty year, third season, fourth
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I think it could be third.
We've had around a couple of times,

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so I thinking this would be a
third. Very smart woman of the tough,

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tough coach. We'll see how this
goes. Year number three because they

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were good. They were good when
the former coach left right and they had

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to change a new style, change
to her style. He was they were

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good enough that he got a job
at Florida and then he got fired there.

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Yeah. So twenty one, Ah, this is her fourth year,

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fourth year, Well, okay,
time flies, Yeah, it does,

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it does. So it's it's been
a little bit of a struggle for her.

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So does have her schedule, have
her record? It doesn't, Okay,

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because she's she's gotten better and they've
been more competitive, but they were.

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They were very competitive before she got
here. Yeah, they were now.

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Yeah, I don't know what to
tell you. They don't have her

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record lest they're coming off the six
eight five season rush. Is that what

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it was? Okay? And then
they were eight seven and three the year

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before that, and then the year
before that. I don't see it.

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Sorry, Yeah, I think the
conference will be better for them. Yeah,

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yeah, you know, little face
down for a little conference, A

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big twelve conference, all right.
T mac wide receiver for University Arizona.

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He's been named are they Walter Camp
Preseason All American. It's the first time

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since twenty eighteen. Went running back
J. J. Taylor was named to

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the thirteen that they've got a preseason
All American Walter camp yep, so he's

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named. He's named that a few
spots in the fact I are you know

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in the press release they did include
one and it was Lindy's. So Anthony

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and I posted it in Lindy and
then Anthony's says to me, don't forget

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Lindy's a good, good call,
Anthony, I wrote a little a little

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betting column for Call Dig Lindy's just
how could that be? Five year trends

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of on college football teams, you
know, five year trends of who covers

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and who It's actually pretty interesting.
Yeah. The teams that you think cover

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don't Yeah. Sure. And the
teams that are the best against the spread,

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who never even think of it?
Well, it's probably because the people

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go with the with the teams they
know which are the name teams, and

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they're not good and they're not good. If I followed that thing a little

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more, I do better. Yeah, you're gonna find out how to do

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this thing, you know what?
I you know what, I need to

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call that up whenever when we start
doing our our contest again. I won't

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tell you what to do, but
I like it. You know. A

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funny thing speaking of that, we're
talking you know, just guys, I'm

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talking to this whole rating stuff that
that E Sports put out. There's actually

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people are going to use that two
you know, make just to pick games

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and stuff like that because of these
ratings that they because the feeling is that

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the sports came out with you did
a lot of homework to to be able

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to rate the teams and rate players
and yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

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and that that's actually could be a
tool to help you make bets, make

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bets on games. So do you
We got a lot of time, right,

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so do you? Well, I
kind of know how you make your

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picks. But to me, that
what team has talent the other team doesn't,

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and that's how many team That's not
how you picked these games. That's

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that's kind of well, this team
if you did moneyline, yeah of course,

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but this is not a money line. Yeah, it's a fifty to

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fifty shot every game, right,
right, because you're getting points, you're

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giving points, right, And it's
it's about trends, and it's about how

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they play and how they play that
day and whose girlfriend exactly screwed screwed up

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on a guy or whatever. Right, No, no, exactly. People,

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how how talented you are has nothing
to do with any of that.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean that's
you're betting money line? Sure, yeah,

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but yeah, I mean because okay, you're sitting here and you're looking

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at Arizona's first game. They're giving
up thirty and a half to New Mexico.

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Right, do you touch it or
you don't touch What do you do

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with that? Right? You know
you don't touch it? Yeah? Well

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it's like today you and you made
this public. You bet the Dodgers,

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right, uh, money line?
Yeah, and what do you think?

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Exactly so, and that's why you
don't do it. We can. That's

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a time and that's it. And
that's better than a fifty to fifty that's

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mostly sixty too. Yeah, no
money. They're underdogs, No, they

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were, they were underdogs today.
Yeah. Who the plus one thirty five

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Phillies? Oh okay, so they
were there were forty plus one, there

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were forty. But they're still the
Dodgers. But they're still the Dodgers.

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But they're but the Dodgers with crap
hitching. Who who is a bullpenapa?

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Wait? And then we had a
factor in the Gonzales rule. He bet

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the Dodgers. So you know what
you do, You take a left the

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Albuquerque and bet the Phillies. Jay, I need you to help me here

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over the Phillies, Dodgers, Dodgers. The Dodgers lost tune a road to

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them. I thought that, you
know, it looks it's early. It's

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it's the bottom of the third.
Yeah, you know, it's two nothing.

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We're fine, you've already put on
it. We're fine, Yeah,

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we're fine, fine, all right, all right, two soun Roadrunners.

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They released their schedule for the upcoming
season. There you go. It's sorry.

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I wasn't voting. So their home
opener is going to be on October

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nineteenth, where they will host the
Texas Stars at the Tucson Arena. Twenty

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six of the thirty six home games
will take place on Friday, Saturday or

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Sunday. Well, then they're all
going to be here, right, they're

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all gonna be here. They were
talking talking about having a schedule somewhere else

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in Phoenix, and that's changed.
That's changed. They're not playing any games

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up in Phoenix. I don't know
if they couldn't come to an agreement.

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Or they just decided they didn't want
to do it, but for whatever reason,

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all all thirty six home games are
here. And I'm curious too if

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they thought part of that was what
would be the interest in Phoenix when you

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don't already have soccer and it's Triple
A. It's Triple A right right,

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and you're an AHL team left right
right. So in Tucson, they know

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they have an audience, they have
a pretty good fan base, audience.

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Why change it exactly? At some
point eventually will but not now? Not

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now? You know, and look, this is a big deal and by

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that I mean it's a big deal
for for downtown Tucson. You know,

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to have that's thirty six nights that
there's gonna be four thousand people you know

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going down going downtown, that's a
big deal. It's a big deal to

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all the businesses down there. You
know, when you think about the if

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that wasn't happening downtown, if they
if they had decided to go to Phoenix

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and they had laughed, Yeah,
that's a big hole, right, that's

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a big hold. But you know, for thirty six nights now, over

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over that uh uh what four or
five month period, that's that's you know,

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thirty six nights that there's stuff going
on down there. So it's it's

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I'm really glad when you really think
about it that way, you got to

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be really happy that that's why,
that's why they have to have success,

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and that's why the Sugar Sculls have
to have success and some of the others

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because it means a lot to the
downtown area and to do so. Yeah,

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yeah, absolutely. How does the
Tucson soccer team? How are they

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doing? Like? They are?
They pretty good? They're they're doing fairly

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well. Yeah, I think they're
second in the league. It's they get

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I think he said maybe twelve hundred
because it's so damn hot out there.

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Yeah, but it's a loyal twelve
hundred. It could be more. I

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think there have been Son well,
they played that in Keno. It's it's

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it's as popular as it can be
in the summer. Yeah, Okay,

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a little bit news out of the
MLB trade deadlines approaching. One of the

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names that was being thrown around was
Max Scherzer from the Texas Rangers. Again.

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Yeah, so he did come out
yesterday and say that he excuse me

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that you won't waive his no trade
clause that he's he's just going to try

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to stick with the Rangers, Okay, because I think since twenty twenty one

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he's been on like four different teams. Yeah, he's guys on the road

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all the time. And for somebody
who's that good, right, I mean

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he might be a Hall of Famer, right, Yeah, I mean I

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would think so. Yeah, And
yet, you know, one team to

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another, to another to another.
It's like, usually you know you're good,

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and you're good for somebody for a
long period of time. Yeah,

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maybe at the end of your career
you go to you know, it's amazing

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to me how many different teams guys
like Joe Morgan, Pete Rose, you

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know, played for at the end
of their careers. I had no idea.

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Joe Morgan after the Giants, he
played for the A's. He Rose

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played for the Montreal Expo. Yeah, he played for Philly and the Expos.

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And it's like, you had no
idea that these guys who were you

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know, big time well people I
was in a Hall of Famer, Well

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he is, he is, but
he's not. But anyways, you know,

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the guys of that at that level, you know, in terms of

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you know, how good they were
that they still wound up at the end

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friend of violence, Swelo pitched for
Baltimore. Really, I didn't remember that.

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Yeah, what year was that,
I don't know, nineteen eighty something,

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eighty nineties, ninety probably in the
nineties. Really, yeah, I

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didn't know that. So you know
stuff like that where you think of what

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do you think for none of violence? Well you think of the Dodgers,

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right, and only the Dodgers,
and then I mean he went and pitched

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up a bunch of different places after
you know, when when the Dodgers let

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him go, it's crazy. Anyways, Sorry, he needs to stay with

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them. I mean the Rangers,
they're still in the they're still in the

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hunt. They suck, They're not
doing very well. They're not They're not.

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I don't think they're They're under five
hundred, aren't they forty forty four

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and well this was yesterday forty four
and forty nine, but probably forty five.

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Yeah, he just lost his last
out and I think I saw that

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one. Yeah, he's yeah,
he's coming off that injury as well.

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He had some surgery last year.
So anyway, sticking with MLB, Paul

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Skeen is continuing to have a good
season with the Pittsburgh Pirates. He had

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seven no hit innings today and struck
out eleven against the Milwaukee Brewers. Pirates

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went on to win win nothing did
he they he didn't didn't finish the game.

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He didn't finish the game. Yeah, no hitter and he didn't finish

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the game. To help me,
Steve, you see, you have no

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hair it going and you don't finish
the game. So he got able to

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sing one the in the eighth and
then they came, h, I hate

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this. Well that's the way the
pitch is going today. Yeah you know,

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I yeah, you know. It
was again another funny conversation. I

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was listening. I was listening to
talking about how you know some of these

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old pictures, right, you know, Nolan Ryan had three hundred wins.

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All these other guys had two hundred
and some wins and like the leading active

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picture or he's like one hundred and
forty wins after shures are in those guys

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who you know, who are on
the way out, Like nobody's gonna get

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to two hundred wins right right with
this with this new uh sure, because

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you pitch four innings and you can't
get a win because of that, you

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know, the the specifications or whatever
the word you want to use is changed

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because of the good old days when
the for now know of the world went

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eight to nine and yeah they plaid
complete games. Yeah, uh give up

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three four hits. Uh. Saves
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yeah and not Yeah, there aren't. I mean, is there is

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there a classic closer in you know, in Major League Baseball today? I

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don't know that there is like a
guy who's gonna get forty saves? Right,

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I don't think there is a guy
like that. I mean I can

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go look it up, and I
mean, you know what the Saves leader

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has this year? I hate that
guy. Another thing about Jay, he

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doesn't like anybody. You know that
Mikey commercial. Are you too young to

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know about the Mikey commercial? I
probably heard about in the Cereal o Mike

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he doesn't like anything, but he
liked that cereal. That's Jane. Yeah,

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Jane doesn't like anything. You didn't
need the cereal. He likes it?

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All right, let me see,
I'm okay, keep going. I'm

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looking this up because I went I
want to know this, but the Saves

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leader has I guess The last thing
I have is just some news out of

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the summer league about John Johnson.
Yeah, and they could be a you

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know, next diamond in the rough
for the heat. We can go two

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ways. It could be it could
be the next, you know, the

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next guy for me, he had
a heck of a game last night.

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The problem with all that is you
have a great game. I remember that

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Jared Baylis had a great game.
No, it was somebody who, uh,

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who was very good at Juve,
had a good summer league, but

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didn't find a space, didn't find
space on a team. And in the

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NBA this is kind of a water
the summer leaguesist. You kind of just

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play and you become somebody, but
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It's not that can't. But he's
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and he's athletic. Who knows?
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I won the twenty bucks from Peterson. I don't care. But but uh,

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is he capable? Maybe? Will
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So we'll see. Okay, I
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Saint Louis. Wow, they won
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because they're not good either. Yeah, you must have saved every game that

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they want. Yeah, Craig Campbell
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guy. He's got twenty three.
All right, I think we killed it.

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Let's go take it. Let's go
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Just talk about, you know,
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I'm Steve Rivera, p's Jaginsaus. Now

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on the phone. We have Rick
McGee and bj Fogeltants High School of Football

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referees. You guys, are you
have that on the resume? More power

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to you because they're in a safe
deal. You guys must get a lot

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of criticism. But it's a tough
job, right guys. It's a little

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hard at times. Yeah, but
you know we get through it. Were

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this week. It's a very tough
job. My dad is Jim Fogeltants.

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He was a packed and packed foal
official forty three years and I never wanted

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to be a fish. I don't
want to be boot out all the time,

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you know. So what Okay,
let's let's let me ask you this.

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Why do you guys do this?
And look, I'm I'm not saying

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that you guys are nuts. I'm
just saying, what, why, what

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makes you want to be a referee
and what what do you get out of

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it? Uh? And why did
you choose to do this stuff? Okay,

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this is b day. First of
all, I tell her to follow

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my dad's footsteps. But I love
the competition. I love being part of

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the game. Friday night lights are
very very special. I love the fans,

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I love the coaches, I love
the pep bands. You know,

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it's a great time, Rick,
Rick, Yeah, yeah, I mean

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I I got into it for love
of the game. I mean I I

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love football sports in general. You
guys, you guys have been in it

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for a long time. I think
one of the reasons we have have you

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on is that is there a shortage
of this because because of all the craft

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that goes on, there is a
big shortage right now. But the cramp

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is being cleaned up. Actually,
I mean they've at the youth level,

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they've imposed fines on coaches. Oh
good, and if they don't pay the

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fine, they can't come back to
the coach. So wow, Okay,

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simmering down quite a bit. It's
it's gotten a lot better since when I

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started fourteen fifteen years ago, right, And I started twenty years ago,

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and there was a time when Thursday
nights we had three guys instead of four

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guys on the freshman DV games.
And I mean that's not good for anybody.

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Yeah, yeah, there is there
are there misconceptions. Do you think

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a little bit about about all of
that that you know, we see,

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we see the videos on social media
and that kind of stuff that guys,

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it's not as bad as it as
it looks, you know, come on

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out and give us a hand.
Oh god, it really isn't as bad

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as it looks. Most of the
time, everything is nice and smooth.

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You go out there, you have
a great game, your crew is great,

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everything goes well, and you go
home. And that's ninety percent of

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the time. Ten percent of the
time you have something go a little hay

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wired coaches, the control or whatever. That's the only stuff that makes on

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the social media, right, the
only stuff that makes it on the sports

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center, right, So that's all
people see. They don't see, you

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know, the great parts of the
game, or the great calls that one

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of the referee makes, or you
know, something something special that happens between

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maybe one of the referees and the
coach for the player. So that's stilln't

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make it. It's all the bad, right right. I agree. You

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know the stuff that you see on
YouTube, are you know the media es

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then that's very very rare, right, that's probably one percent of the time.

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So you talk about the coaches being
fined. But I've said this often

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enough that the worst thing about kids
sports are the parents. Amen, That's

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all I can say. That's the
toughest start for new officials is you know,

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dealing with the anger and you know, it seems like the younger they

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are the worst the parents of No. Yeah, is there anything being done

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to curb that that issue. I
don't know. If you can't find and

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can find parents or maybe get them
out of the out of the stands.

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Well, the coaches, the coach
is told responsible for that, so you

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go to game administration of them.
And if the coach can't get his his

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team's fans with the control, then
he gets objective right right. Well,

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and the veteran officials like me and
Rick, you know, we take care

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of new guys. You know,
we make sure that they're comfortable and that

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they're having fun, and any issues, well we'll kind of take over and

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teach them how to deal with is
that. So we make sure that they're

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having fun and you know, we'll
be Your dad did this, so you

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saw a lot of this. Rick, I don't know what your background is,

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you know, before you started referee, but when you started refereeing,

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what what you know? What what
were some of your early takes on it

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where you're nervous, you know,
you think about your first game that and

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I'm not talking about like a city
league game or a slow pitch softball game.

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Now you're out on the field at
a high school football game or a

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basketball game or whatever. What was
that like for you guys? For me,

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I had amazingly enough, the guy
that was in charge of the crew

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had actually officiated me in high school
in California. So we were talking and

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joking on the way and he really
relaxed me and made me feel much better.

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But yeah, I can say as
we were on the ride towards the

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game, yeah, I was two
in my nails a little bit. I

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was a little bit nervous, you
know. And I can tell the story.

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I brought my nephew in to refereeing
last year. It was his first

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year, and he said his first
game or two. He was really nervous,

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but there were a lot of older, more experienced officials that really helped

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him through. One of them was
a guy from here in Tucson that was

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an NFL reference hall kind of a
way. So yeah, you know,

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I was scared to death, absolutely
scared to death. My dad's head referee.

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On my first game at the Phantom, well the JV game, I

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had an inrovertent whistle in the first
man at the game on the goal line.

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So that was my introduction to high
school. But you know, after

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the game, uh, we had
a good ride back had spun And then

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my second second week, I was
at Sabino and that's when I fell in

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love with it. My second week. Do you still do you guys still

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get nervous before a really big game. Yeah, yeah, I mean if

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you're doing like cdo Cell Point,
which actually did like TJ and my soul

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did CD Cell and it was it
was a big game, thousands of fans

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there, and yeah, I mean
everybody was a little tiny, but you

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loosen up after the first couple of
plays. So yeah, yeah, you

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know, after the kickoffs, the
butterflies kind of leave and you just get

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into the game and let's go.
But before the game. I get nervous

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before every single varsity game. Yeah, I'm mean to say, you sound

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like guys coming out of the locker
room, you know, with with shoulder

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pads on and stuff. I mean, you have the same kind of nerves,

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right because you're you're trying to do
a good job. You're trying to

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make sure that everything goes well and
not notice exactly and you exactly. You

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know, you don't want you want
people to not know you're there. You

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got to stretch, you got to
do all the things. Uh, and

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then you but you're wearing a you
know, a different uniform. Is it?

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Is it something that what would let
me ask you? Let me ask

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you this way. If there's a
young person that's listening to this and you

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want to advise them, look,
give it a try. What would you

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say to them about why they should
and what they can expect you know it.

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Well, there's a lot of camaraderie
among the officials. So after our

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varsity games on Friday night, we'll
go hang out and you know, watch

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the watch the highlights or the low
lights whatever it's maybe that night. Things

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like that, and there's the community
and besides, it pays pretty well,

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you know, I mean if you
go on an Alperaly base, So this

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is not that bad money when you
do a varsity game. So yeah,

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I say for the for the guys
in college, you know, let's put

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it that way. When I was
in college, I was working as land

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Escape are making six dollars an hour. Yeah, so you know, we

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really tried to promote, Hey,
you can come out here and you know,

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make sixty bucks on Thursday night for
two hours. Friday night you make

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ninety bucks. Saturday, you can
make two hundred and forty bucks. So

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yeah, we really talk about that, put an emphasis on that. We've

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had some of the great guys,
the arrest atlers, some of the other

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guys was on recently and then the
women's guy got I don't know why he's

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about the Schofield scofield. Of course
when I asked him this, when you're

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on the field and you're human,
right, so you're here to do the

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game, but you probably notice some
of the players, right because you say,

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God, that guy's good, or
you have to notice who's who you're

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officiating for. Yeah, I mean
you'll notice who's good and who's better.

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But you always want to officiate from
the standpoint of you're you're officiating the game

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based on its two teams and they're
both the same, Like you don't I

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really try to stay impartials all over. That means I'll tell you what when.

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But John Robinson was that to point, Yes, that was one guy

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when I just stopped officiating and watched
him like a regular fan. I mean

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he was phenomenal. You know,
Jake Fisher at Ironwood rich he I mean

407
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he was phenomenal to watch something.
You know, the Division one athletes stand

408
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.359
out and yeah, yeah, you
just enjoy watching those guys work. Did

409
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.000
you ever get caught up watching those
guys you know and watching the plays?

410
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Or how hard is it to zero
in on what you're supposed to be looking

411
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.000
at right, because I'm guessing you
guys all have something a little different you're

412
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supposed to be looking at. I
mean, I'm always in my zone.

413
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.799
I don't I don't try to look
at what players are doing anything like that.

414
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.200
I can tell you there was one
game where I watched Kadeem carry from

415
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:44.200
the back a few times because I
was the back judge that game, and

416
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he beat me to the end zone. Twice, which is not supposed to

417
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.440
happen. But it was just still
keeping up with that kid. I think

418
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.599
he went for three hundred and so
odd yards. So you're supposed to have

419
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.000
get ahead start on those guys,
right, I did twenty years started well,

420
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.839
And I'm gonna admit that sometimes I
tend to watch the ball, and

421
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.480
you know, I'm the head referee
and a long path play. When I'm

422
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:06.839
watching the ball and watching the defender
receiver, I forget I've got my responsibility

423
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.799
to quarterback, right. You know. If I'm watching the ball and all

424
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.279
of a sudden, the quarterbacks on
the ground, I don't know how he

425
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.079
got there. That's a bad,
bad feeling for me. Yeah, So

426
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.640
how often you guys kind of review
the tape? Is it right away?

427
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.440
Is that you know? Okay,
I screwed that up? How does that

428
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.200
work? Sometimes? Yeah, there's
there's a thing called huddle. So all

429
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:33.160
the schools have called huddle and it
posts and usually by Sunday you can watch

430
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.480
your game film. Some schools are
a little slower. But me, as

431
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.839
the white hat for my crew,
I go through and I try to keep

432
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:44.440
track of all the penalties. We
called everything right, what time and I

433
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:45.720
will go through and I'll review it
and see, hey, we get that

434
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.480
right, did we get it wrong? Whatever. I'll make the list and

435
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.480
then i'll send that out to the
guys so they don't have to watch the

436
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.559
whole thing like me. So yeah, and when we have a call in

437
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.519
the game that that's a controversy,
will call. Trust me. I'm waiting

438
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.160
for that film to come out.
I can't wait for it to come out.

439
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.000
And I watched that play right away. So not that you want to

440
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:08.599
admit this, but please do how
many how many plays in a game one

441
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:14.559
and and and two? How many
bad calls are there in those nomber of

442
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.759
plays? Oh gosh, I don't
know how. I mean, every game

443
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.160
is different with the number of plays, but I mean you have a clean

444
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.759
game and there are no bad calls. I mean, yeah, I don't

445
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.519
know what the high school averages the
college. You know, it's usually about

446
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.759
one hundred and sixty plays, and
we might get one or two wrong and

447
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.160
one hundred and sixty plays that's pretty
good. That's pretty good. Yeah.

448
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:41.839
Yeah. Okay, so you got
football season coming up. I'm presuming you're

449
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:47.000
you're looking for for refs too,
because you got freshman JV varsity games,

450
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:48.920
all that kind of stuff. There's
a lot of need. First of all,

451
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.279
tell us about the need, you
know, I mean, how many

452
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.559
how many refs do you need in
this community to cover all this stuff?

453
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.960
And then what's the process. Let's
say, you know, Joe Blow wants

454
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.480
to be a ref what does he
do? If someone wants to become a

455
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:08.799
referee, they just have to go
to ai A online dot org and click

456
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.200
on officials and it'll bring it up
and they'll tell them exactly how to register

457
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:18.880
everything. That's that's step one.
And then Dave Wanton, who's our head

458
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:23.079
of officials here in Tucson, we'll
reach out to them and tell them when

459
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.759
the trainings are where they are and
explain to them how to get into it.

460
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:33.119
Sign them a mentor. So I
was my nephew's mentor, so I

461
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.960
actually tried to watch everything I could
that he did. There is a film

462
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.640
on JB games, so I did
make it to one of those games and

463
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.759
he did a couple of varsities that
I watched the film on. But you

464
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.960
know, you'll get a mentor somebody
who will try to talk you through the

465
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.200
process and take it through it,
and you know, At first, you'll

466
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.960
be doing youth football, JB freshman
and things like that, and once you

467
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:02.680
start getting acclimated, then you'll start
moving up to birsity and then and then

468
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:04.559
that for varsity. And you know
there's guys that will come up to me

469
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.880
or other college guys and you know
they want to get into junior college and

470
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.319
then that a whole nother process.
So I mean there's you know, there's

471
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:17.680
guys that work their way up.
So talking to Rick McGee and BJ focal

472
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.000
tents, fugal tents, longtime referees. So what's the pool like, is

473
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.079
there a number of you guys out
there? There are I don't know exactly

474
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:32.599
what that Last year we were way
short and we usually go or we pre

475
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.640
COVID twenty nineteen we had one hundred
and fifty hundred and sixty guys, and

476
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.200
I believe last year we came in
maybe one hundred and twenty. Wow.

477
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:47.720
Okay, how many did you need
on a Friday night? Okay? So

478
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:52.640
so we have five guys on a
Friday night. Some of the big games

479
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.519
will have seven. And that's why
another reason why we need more officials because

480
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.279
some of the bigger games, you
know, we really need seven there.

481
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.440
Phoenix, they do seven man cruise
on Friday nights for a lot of their

482
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.119
games. That's another reason why we
need more guys. Okay, so how

483
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.319
many games in the night and Tucson
ten? How many are there? Oh,

484
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.799
I've got a lot more of that. Yeah, there's a lot more

485
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.599
than that. There's probably twenty games
going on on the round. So the

486
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.319
twenty times five, that's one hundred
of the people. As you, guys

487
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.440
are saturated most Friday nights. Yeah, most Friday nights, we are down

488
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.759
to the last God interesting. So
so so you're not you're not going to

489
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.799
be waiting around to get games if
you If you sign up to do this,

490
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.839
you've got work. So what's the
process too? I mean, if

491
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.359
Jay wants to do it, could
he be ready for the first game this

492
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.599
year? Oh? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, if you signed up in

493
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:45.920
the next couple of weeks. Absolutely. You know. There's there's training sessions,

494
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:50.000
those scrimmages, so you know,
we help the guys as much as

495
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.480
possible before their first game. Okay, how in shape do you have to

496
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:57.440
be to do a football game?
I mean, if you got bad knees

497
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.640
or whatever, I mean, what
you know, serious I mean, yeah,

498
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.200
how good a physical condition do you
need to be in? Well,

499
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.079
we have guys out there with bad
knees and whatnot. I myself, I

500
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.400
mean, I worked out every day. I try to stay in shape.

501
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:14.640
But that's that's me. But there
are guys they're not in super great shame,

502
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:15.640
but they still get up and down
the field. I mean, you

503
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.680
have to be able to move,
get in the right positions and things.

504
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.119
And we don't want to discourage anybody
from signing up, right, you know,

505
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:30.039
I mean all everybody's welcome guys,
girls, everybody, I say,

506
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:36.000
he said, he said, girls
are women. Tons of opportunities for women

507
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.039
and football. They're moving up into
college in the past. I was.

508
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:44.400
I was just at a camp in
an ol Paso for college football officials and

509
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:50.960
we had four women from the NFL
that are getting ready to be out there

510
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.839
practicing up. So and they moved
up quick. They've been referring probably five

511
00:33:54.920 --> 00:34:00.400
six years maybe so, you know. So let me ask you, well,

512
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.799
last forget about a minute left,
how do how do how do we

513
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:12.519
get a hold of someone to join
if we want to join ai a online

514
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.599
dot org. Okay, and there's
a tab for you know, wanting to

515
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.239
be official. Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, they can go there,

516
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.719
like can sign up or I mean, if they want, they can call

517
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.880
me. I'm happy to have them
call me. I'm I'm I'm at five

518
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.320
two zero sixty three one eight six
eight zero. And if they want to

519
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:35.400
give me a call, I will
talk them through it. Yeah, and

520
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:39.079
I'll get my number two five two
zero eight five zero five six four nine.

521
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:44.440
Okay, Can I ask how about
you guys get paid? Varsity is

522
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:49.679
ninety JB JB is sixty. Youth
games on Saturday's are sixty a game.

523
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.239
Okay, so for like two three
hours that's pretty good. Ye. Well

524
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.280
yeah, I mean you can do
five youth games on a Saturday. That's

525
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:59.559
the youth games are usually about an
hour and a half. Yeah, I've

526
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:04.320
done six games on a chatterday.
Okay. This is a nice side gig.

527
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.039
Yeah. It all goes into account
for my wife and I to go

528
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:14.800
on. That's where you should have
started the whole conversation. Come on a

529
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.719
cruise with us, become a rough
Thanks guys, Hey, guys, I

530
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:23.880
appreciate it. Thanks for the NFL
be well thinks I'm going on. You

531
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:28.400
know, I did think about doing
that a long time ago, but I

532
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.320
chose to coach instead. But you
know, look, and I've had my

533
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.119
things with you know, umps and
referees stuff, but you know, you

534
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:38.960
know, always a respect for them
though, because that's a hard job.

535
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:43.719
Uh you know. I did some
Little league umpiring all stars that kind of

536
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:50.000
stuff. And man again the stuff
you the stuff you see, the stuff

537
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:54.159
you hear man you know? Uh
well I told you the story. Right.

538
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:59.519
So, so my son's played soccer
for all their lives and it's he

539
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.000
Cameron paid with a pretty good group. A few of them were Hispanic,

540
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.239
very good players. And the parents, would you know, the dads would

541
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:07.960
yell and Spanish and YadA, YadA, and I'd say, come on,

542
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.719
guys, stand off of this crap. You know, don't oh you understand

543
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.360
Spanish? Yes, yeah, pretty
much, come on, comb they come

544
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.920
down, ye know, this is
just a game. They didn't calm down.

545
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.320
They still would down. Yeah,
of course. All right, all

546
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:22.320
right, let's take our last break. We're to come back. We'd love

547
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.679
to take your calls. Five two
zero four one six four forty. Maybe

548
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:29.239
we can recruit a couple of refs
here, all right, come back,

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591
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fifty. I'm Steve, You're Jay. We got ride with us, right,

592
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you got a side gig now it's
being a referee, Yeah right,

593
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.840
go do it man, Sure go
do it. Throw a flag. You

594
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.840
look like you're in better shape than
us. Yeah, you know, on

595
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:02.920
our play, all I would have
to do is run one time, like

596
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.880
forty yards, and that would be
it didn't come out. You have to

597
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actually have the extra ref exactly exactly. Dodgers made it two to one.

598
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.480
Steve, I'm still in this.
There's still hope. Top of the six

599
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.639
two to one, you can never
hope. Yeah, you know, these

600
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:22.599
games go by so fast, so
fast. So when you're down, like

601
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in the eighth and you're down to
you sing, oh god, sober so

602
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.679
I mean I saw, I think
now because the game is gon fly so

603
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.960
bad? Yeah. Yeah, not
top of the six. So here we

604
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.679
go. We're still in it.
I got shot at this, I got

605
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:36.679
shot. Okay, well we have
twelve minutes for us. Anybody want to

606
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.519
call, please do any but you
have an experience with some refs goood or

607
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:44.239
bad, give us a call that'd
be fun. Or you know, are

608
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.119
you the victors. I'm sure Victors
hasn't yelled that a ref should. I

609
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:52.440
admit that during my kids high school
days, I got thrown out of a

610
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:59.960
game in three different sports. What
are you doing? I was I was

611
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:01.760
the official scorer at a volleyball match. I got tossed out of that.

612
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.400
I got tossed out as a as
a out of a baseball game, uh,

613
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:12.639
you know, for coach, as
a coach, and I got tossed

614
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:19.199
out of a softball game as a
coach. So yeah, so there you

615
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.639
go. It's a it's a it's
a it's a badge of honor that I

616
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.719
wear. But you know, what
are you gonna do? You know,

617
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.719
sometimes, you know, sometimes you
just do what you do, right,

618
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.239
I guess, uh, did you
not let this man into the building?

619
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:39.880
Kind of looks like Fernando Vealezuela,
George Lopez. Yeah, so anyway,

620
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:47.280
it happens. It happens. But
you know, but again I've always in

621
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:51.760
the end, I've just you know, you know that especially at the youth

622
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.800
level, that these these refs they're
out there because not because they're trying to

623
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:58.719
make money. I mean, I
get it, you know, you know.

624
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.480
Rick McGee said, yeah, well, you know, I get I

625
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.679
make all this money and we do
this stuff with it. But for the

626
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:06.480
most part, they're not. That's
why they're not breaking the bank with it.

627
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.719
There's nobody doing that for that no, but it sounds like a lot

628
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:12.400
of fun because I asked you.
You know this, I always ask this

629
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.039
question of people who who who played
sports or whatever, and and you you

630
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:20.880
call it juice with your with your
gambling thing. But people need juice because

631
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.840
they used to be former players.
They need they need to stay competitive,

632
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.400
right somehow. That's how I played
play poker. I love to be competitive

633
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.320
with it and I don't want to
run any of the do I let's take

634
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.400
this call. I are on the
air and I on the ball. Hey,

635
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.199
how's the going? My name?
I was wondering if I can hop

636
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:42.920
on real quick and talk about the
referee short? Absolutely, go ahead?

637
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.480
What do you? What do you
got? Oh? Hey, thanks?

638
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.440
No. The reason why I called
it is, wow, what a big

639
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.719
topic that we really don't talk too
much about soccer, coach. And what

640
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.840
I can tell you is that if
you go out there and this is for

641
00:42:55.000 --> 00:43:00.440
boys and girls and all they just
the referees are about and they're early teams

642
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:07.639
maybe thirteen to seventeen ish to their
late fifties, right because everybody in between

643
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:14.000
they don't want to do it.
And the things you see out there,

644
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.920
the abuse, the yelly and David
need to do it for the money,

645
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.639
and then what happens? The kids
suffer? No, Yeah, without question,

646
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:23.760
at the very end, that's the
that's the friendly fire, it's touch,

647
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.519
that's who affected the monk, right
right, you're absolutely correct on that.

648
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.440
What Look, this is a it's
an issue, it's a problem.

649
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:37.639
But what do we do right?
How do we how do we get past

650
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.880
all that? How do we get
parents to act better in those kinds of

651
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:44.480
things? What can you possibly do? You know? Sadly, the solution

652
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:50.800
is simple because a lot of games
they're being canceled forfeit or rearranged. So

653
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:53.679
what do we do about black parents? You get three strikes and you're out.

654
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:58.199
I mean one year I had to
act as a safety manument manager for

655
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:01.159
one league and I almost had one
punch an other parents holding a kid.

656
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:05.679
What is this about? Yeah?
Tell me that, and that the girls

657
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.559
on the field playing soccers, that
are about No. But it just give

658
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:13.719
me allowed that to have? Can
you shit the example? You allowed everybody

659
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.880
else to curse and salve and so
forth. And again I know I'm a

660
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:22.480
broken record here, but wow,
it's really hurting the kids. And nowadays

661
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.119
social media, you gotta have some
kind of outload for them. So let

662
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:28.880
me ask you real quick, give
me an example of a strike and then

663
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.880
you go the three of them.
Yes, uh oh, it does have

664
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.599
to be three strikes. You give
yourself to be the referee. The referee

665
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.440
will go over to the coach and
say, hey, calm down your parents.

666
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.440
If they don't, you get a
yellow card, and then that that's

667
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:50.639
something in place to some organizations.
But but if it's something like, hey,

668
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:54.280
you're yelling at a kid calling out
their race, there's something about damn,

669
00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:00.280
then the game will be stopped.
Get that parent out of there and

670
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:04.199
their kids. Yeah, and it
seems extreme, but you know what's even

671
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:09.199
more extreme. Pictures only teenagers and
fifty sixty year olds as referees, and

672
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:16.159
so many games are canceled rearranged because
we don't have enough referee right right,

673
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:20.880
I hear right, I hear you. Yeah, all right enough, I'm

674
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.159
sorry. No, we appreciate,
we appreciate the call. Thank you so

675
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:27.400
much. That's why we had the
topic. Thank you, That's why we

676
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.360
have the topic. It's it's a
it's a we can talk about this for

677
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:32.199
a long time. Yeah, No, it's affected. And he brought up

678
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.920
he brought up a thing. So
I'm coaching middle school softball, okay,

679
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.199
middle school softball, and all of
a sudden I look out on the I

680
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:45.639
look out on the on the and
our pictures crying, and I call time

681
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:46.880
on. I go, why are
you crying? She goes that man back

682
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:51.519
there yelling at Really, who's that
better? My dad? No? I

683
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:52.559
said, what is he saying?
He's just saying things. He's saying,

684
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.199
I'm a terrible picture. But I
didn't hear him because there was a dug

685
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.840
out of that sure, so I
couldn't hear it, and I'm like,

686
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.159
what, So what happened? Well? I brought her and I went to

687
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:07.400
the umpire said that guy over there
is yelling at her. I said,

688
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:13.360
one, why haven't you already done
something about it? Because why is she

689
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.519
crying? Why did it take her
to she's what twelve thirteen? Yeah,

690
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.119
yeah, she was in eighth grade, twelve thirteen. Why why did it

691
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.119
take for her to be crying for
somebody to go say something to this guy?

692
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.599
I said, I want you to
say something to him and either make

693
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:29.519
him shut up or make him leave. And so he did. He went

694
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.559
and said something to him and it
ended there. But why why is the

695
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.960
Why is the parent yelling at the
other team's kid. Oh, it was

696
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:42.599
another team's kid. Okay, it
wasn't one of our parents. It was

697
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.960
a parent of somebody on the other
team. And he's taunting our picture.

698
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:52.320
What do we doing? People are
says, that's unbelievable. We've had this

699
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:54.519
when the kids played soccer, and
we used to have the coach. I

700
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:57.920
won't say who is because he's on
the show every now and again. Uh,

701
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.840
come on and gather the group of
parents, and it was only like

702
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:06.159
two parents, but we all have
to suffer the same face. And I

703
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.960
always said, just tell the guys
directly that they're the problem and they need

704
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.719
to stop because you're wasting my time. I had to yell at my dad

705
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.400
at one of my son's little league
games on time, that's it that you

706
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:22.880
can't say those things. The umpire
is like fifteen. I said, stop,

707
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:28.039
you can't I say that, coach, you can't, coach, Come

708
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.599
on, coach. I had to
tell my dad to quit yelling at the

709
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.599
fifteen year old umpire. He was
yelling about balls and strikes, so he

710
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.280
wasn't like, he wasn't like,
yeah, you know, be rating the

711
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:42.239
yump He was just yelling about,
Oh, come on, that's a strike.

712
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.400
I'm like that stop. Just you
suck up. And so of the

713
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:51.079
coach. My son, the coach, he sucks too. How come the

714
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:55.480
coaches crying because yelling at me?
The time I got the time I got

715
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.159
tossed from a baseball game. Okay, it was that we were playing at

716
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:01.719
Keno. Okay, we ran to
the field and we're playing in Keno and

717
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:07.320
I got taught. It was I
mean, I won't even go into why,

718
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.119
but my wife was just chatting to
something with somebody, you know,

719
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:13.599
at the game. They're just sitting
there there talking to She's talking to another

720
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:17.119
another mom, and then the mom
says, I think your husband just got

721
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:20.199
thrown out of the game. She
goes, no, he did it.

722
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:25.039
Well, he's going up the stairs
over there talk to you. I was

723
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:30.480
walking up the stairs because I was
told to leave the stadium, and it

724
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:31.360
was like, what the hell happened? Well, it was a It was

725
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:36.280
a bad thing. Actually was the
thing that I complained to to the to

726
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.079
the A I a about because I
thought that reff was a way out of

727
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.719
or that umpire was way out of
line. You know, I was I

728
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:44.880
was standing up for my guys.
I was standing up for my guys,

729
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:49.719
and you got tossed and I got
tossed throwing the home plate, no home

730
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.440
place. Here's the here's the bad
part about it. And maybe he entered

731
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:58.159
into it a little bit because I
had seen the umpire before. Well he

732
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:00.519
he had played baseball for a s
so I knew he was a sundown.

733
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.679
I'm sure they're playing a lot of
I'm gonna say that had a little bit

734
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.599
to do with this. Well sure, anyway, Okay, anybody want to

735
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:12.039
call. We have a time for
maybe a little time for maybe one more

736
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.440
call five zero four one, six
seventy four forty. Good topic. It's

737
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.760
a great topic because Steve, it
all starts here, right, It all

738
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:21.360
starts with these kids, right right. But you know, you're what I'm

739
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.119
seeing. I've got the I've got
the Phillies, uh Dodger game on,

740
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:29.039
and you know this kid, they
were they were playing youth, all yeah,

741
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.039
right, and they needed these refs
and they needed these umpires to be

742
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:37.440
there so that they could do this. So so here's the here's the problem.

743
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.719
There's no solution because it's a human
human element into it. Humans are

744
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:46.280
paying in the asses, and everyone's
right. Everyone thinks they're right right for

745
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:51.360
yelling or saying stupid things or whatever, and you're not going to change your

746
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:52.719
mind because that's who they are.
And then you get that parent to the

747
00:49:52.760 --> 00:50:00.280
extreme that's yelling at the umpire because
he thinks the umpire is impeding his kids

748
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:04.239
to the major league. Something pass
to the major league, right, you

749
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.119
know those kinds of if not the
coach, somebody else right, right,

750
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.280
Maybe he doesn't realize the kids not
any good. Honestly, there's well there's

751
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:19.440
you talked about the ladies behind you
talking about volleyball and my girls going going

752
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.199
they issue the player and they weren't
any good. Yeah, it's like yeah,

753
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.920
I mean, you know you have
these you have these unreal expectations and

754
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.920
then when they feel like somebody,
like a ref you know, is kind

755
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:37.159
of getting in the way of that, it can create some some nasty situations

756
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.360
over there. And it does,
it really does. I mean, you

757
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:45.079
know you talk about these you know, figure skating moms and dance moms and

758
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:49.920
yeah like that. You wait a
minute, you know, baseball dad and

759
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:54.000
basketball dad is pretty bad. I
mean all of it. Look, Steve,

760
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:59.760
I don't think this ever got out. But there was a there was

761
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:04.000
a basketball tournament, one of those
you know high school Yeah, week long

762
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.280
basketball tournaments. Uh, that ended
at michale I know what you're going to

763
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.800
say. That ended with the lady
pulling the gun. I'm aware you remember

764
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:14.119
that. I'm aware of that.
Let me say I'm aware of that.

765
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.039
I'm surprised you even said it because
you're the second person to ever know this,

766
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.159
the third person will to make it
public because I went to the I

767
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.639
went to the police blogs. It
was not in there. It was not.

768
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:29.239
It never got reported because because I
knew, but I went to check

769
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:31.159
it out and do the story.
It was not in the We never got

770
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:35.320
it, never got there. No, But that's funny you say that because

771
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:37.880
you're the first person publicly whoever said
this to me or to anybody else.

772
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.360
Because I knew about it. We
all know what happened. Yeah, it

773
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:45.400
was the summer that Yeah, summer
league many years ago. Yeah it happened.

774
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.239
I know it did because they told
me. But I had to get

775
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.840
proof of it, and then you
couldn't find it and it was not in

776
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.559
the log. Yeah, either purposely
or otherwise purposely. I'm sure, Yeah,

777
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:58.280
because of course they didn't want anybody
know that that happened to How funny

778
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.039
you say that. I'm honestly,
I'm a little because you're the first person

779
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:05.239
that this happened so long ago we
can talk about it's more than twenty years.

780
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:07.800
Yeah, but it happened. I
know it is. It was a

781
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.320
little shocked that you said this because
it's true, not that it's true.

782
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.119
You're the first person to actually say
it publicly. Yeah. Well no,

783
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:21.920
I'm aware, I'm aware, but
there was no and that's the extreme right,

784
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:27.599
that's the extreme. But that's what
refs. Who are they're not NFL

785
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.400
right? You know this? Huh? How did you? I heard about

786
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:31.360
it right after it happened. Oh, okay, because you were you were.

787
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:35.239
I wasn't there, Okay, I
heard about it right after it happened

788
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.519
stuff, you know. Yeah,
yeah, I heard about it right after

789
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:42.840
it happened, and I and I
was bagged not to say a lot of

790
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.239
people were. I got the I
got the source told me and I went

791
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.440
to the police, to the U
and it wasn't in the paper. It

792
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:51.079
wasn't. No. I was begged
not to time, But like I said,

793
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.559
I can't hold a secret for my
twenty years. Apparently that that was

794
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:59.320
long enough. Man, Yeah,
you know, twenty years again. And

795
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.079
but that's that's not the only place
that's ever happened. No right, no,

796
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:05.079
I well I told you well,
we got to get out of here.

797
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.360
All right. That's a good show
today, interesting stuff. I surprise.

798
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.880
We surprise ourselves, we do sometimes. All right, we'll be back

799
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.719
tomorrow. The ASU Athletic director will
be on. Grand Rosini will join us,

800
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:16.840
So be sure to come back.