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Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I

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on the Ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's

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Jagonzalz. We got Sammy with us
today on a Wednesday. Welcome, everybody.

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Have a nice show. It's gonna
be centric to maybe a little thanks

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area. Yeah, yeah, but
that's cool. A lot of stuff going

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on up there, good stuff going
on. We you know, if you've

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been paying attention to the in season
NBA Tournament, the Phoenix Suns are in

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the quarterfinals of it. So we
invited Tom Leander, their TV studio host,

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to join us. Tom's a good
friend of ours from way back in

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the day when he was a Channel
thirteen. So he joins us and talks

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Suns with us about it. Yeah, and then we're gonna get hold Robino

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from a shoe some over the weekend
at the game, uh, you know,

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kind of exchange. Pleasant reason that
was about it. But there's a

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lot of stuff going on beyond the
football program, they too, looks like

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are having financial issues mostly I think
in the athletic department, not so much

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the school. But we'll get to
that. Yeah, I just maybe get

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some clarifications on that. See what
they're doing at a issue because they just

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lost the offensive coordinator, right,
he's been dismissed or let go or whatever

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word you want to use. Yeap
so, and oh it's been a good

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guy, you know, he's Yeah, the publisher or editor of Devil's Digests

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doesn't pool punches, right, he
gives us a good perspective from up there,

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which we like. I want to
know what they're thinking after the beating

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that they took because you know,
no torque for the fork man. Well

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you know, and and for them, it's a different situation than when the

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seventy to seventh thing happened because Arizona, what's stuck with, had a coach

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that they just wanted to get the
hell rid of. I think ASU feels

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pretty good about sure Kenny Dillon him
even though he got his beans break.

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Yeah yeah, no, no Saturday. It's a lot like this place down

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here. You hope you put your
hope in a new guy, a young

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guy and see how he does and
hope he turns into Jeed Fish. I'd

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love to hear what he thinks about
telling him and what you know. Okay,

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so maybe they've that was their rock
bottom and so we'll see, you

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know what, you know, how
they feel about the direction that they're headed

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going into next year. Right,
Okay, so we'll talk to him as

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well, still talking about Arizona stuff. Anybody want to call please do five

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to two oho four one six,
seventy four forty. We love your calls

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you if you haven't called before,
please do. Hey, And just a

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kind of like a selfish side note. Today's Wednesday. Uh, the our

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competition, our friendly competition is off
all next week, so we're on.

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We're low next week on the air, all right. So if you haven't

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heard us before, or you want
to listen to Dave too, we love

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you listening to Dave, you know, stick with us for this next week.

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Yeah, give us a shot if
you like our conversation. We're always

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you know, we're just a couple
of guys been here for a really long

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time, and I mean like a
really long time. Well I think about

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seventy, well seventy in the business
about seventy years together. Yeah, because

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I was thirty five years and now
thirty six years. You were in for

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a while, but you're still in
it now, so you know, seventy

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years of a BS writing and whatever
else you want to do. So yeah,

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so we've always got you know,
I think we we give you sort

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of a pretty good just a fan
perspective of local. Well some of us

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do. I'm not. I'm not
as delusional as you you make me out

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to be. Steam you're the fan
in the room. There was something that

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something that came up yesterday about the
fans, and I was gonna say,

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it might come to me about you
being the fan. But you know,

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we need that perspective. You know, that's what you are. That's what

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you know, That's what our show
is about. Right. You try and

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keep me grounded unsuccessfully, you know, I kind of do sometimes you say,

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Okay, you're right. So I
was at l to it right a

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couple of weeks ago and one of
my Facebook friends who I've never really met

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in whatever, Hey are you Steve
Vera. You're a big u a fan,

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right, And I said, what
gives you that impression? He got

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me confused with somebody else, Well, give you that, Well, you

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always write about them. It's as
well, there's a difference. There's a

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difference of writing about him and being
a fan. Yeah, so people kind

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of still don't. Well, And
it's funny because really that's I feel like

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that's what readers and listeners have come
to expect. They've come to expect that

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the media that covers the team is
also a fan. And and old guys

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like you were trying to hang on
to the thing that no, we're you

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know, we're we're impartial. Yes, we cover this team, We carver

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them all the time, and in
a sense we root for them because covering

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winners is better than covering losers.
But in your writing, you're trying to

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be pretty level headed, even handed, unless you're a columnist or whatever.

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Did you guys see I don't know
if you guys saw. It was late

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last night, but Jason Kidd and
journalists and reporter last night kind of butt

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in't butt heads, And so Jason
Kidd and it was probably the guy that

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covers the Mavericks. He's been around. They obviously knew each other, and

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he asked them something along the lines
of Carrie Irving and Luka Doncic's the last

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couple of games not performing in the
clutch as well as maybe they they should

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expect. And Jason Kidd was I
mean, he kind of took it maybe

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the wrong way, but it was
more kind of like he even said,

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like, why don't you guys write
something pos but in your guys are conversations

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Like he's trying to just do his
job of like report level headedly as though

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like that journalist he may I don't
know where he's from. I don't know

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who he is, but he may
be a Dallas Maverick fan for all we

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know. But his job is to
report on what he's seen and what people

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are talking about, and that's what
that's why he asked the question. I

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think sometimes coaches and even players don't
even wrap their head around like this is

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our job, this is their job. That's kind of strange coming from Jason

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Kid, who's been in a short
and I think he may have just been

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like kind of ticked off because maybe
the question because maybe he's ticked off because

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those butt heads didn't play very well. But to be fair the reporter,

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I mean, Luca and Kyrie have
been very good in of course this year

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in this year, and so I
think the question was phrased a little poorly,

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so he had a problem with that, But it still kind of brings

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back to the point of like he's
just trying to kind of get to the

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bottom of what that is. Like
what why I mentioned this yesterday because because

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I follow the Warriors, Kyle caught
me at the Athletics had the same issue

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with Thompson because Thomson he hasn't been
playing, has been playing the well.

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Him and Wigans haven't been playing well. So he brought that up and Thompson,

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who's you know, Kevin like is
just a shy, yeah, quiet

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guy. He went off on them
and he wrote the kit was fantastic called

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because it was like, you know, two paragraphs of quotes, but how

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how he isn't this guy and he's
you can tell that he's his season is

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way, his career is wayne right, and and how he needs to step

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it up. I mean, whether
he believes it or not, it's true,

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sure, but he does. You
know, you get and when you're

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in a corner, what do you
do? You fight? Exactly fight,

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And that's what he kind of did
out of character, but he gave him

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credit for doing that, because maybe
that'll kind of bring him out to Yeah,

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And I think with when it comes
to players, especially like Clay who

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he knows he hasn't been playing well
and there's a lot of expectation on him

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to get back to quotes this splash
brother, Clay Thompson. I think a

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lot of that in athletes. It
just comes out all at once. There's

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a lot of pent up like I'm
not anger aggression, but it's just like,

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man, I want to do my
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I don't need anyone telling me more. And that that's the part of being

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an athlete, though, sure have
to they have to live with that,

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sure, and and and and you
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that that athletes have to deal with
today, there's one, there's far more

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of them. There's far more of
them who don't know what the hell they're

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doing because they've never been through journalism
school or that. And and then you

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know, then there's some confusion about
who's really media and who's a fan site.

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So there's a lot of things that
these that these athletes are having to

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deal with. And you know,
they see these fan sites writing nothing but

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nice stuff about them, and they
kind of expect everybody should be doing that

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when it's not your job. Sure, it's not my job. It's not

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Justin spears job or or Michael Lev's
job or Doug Haller's job to do that

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even handed. If you're a columnist, that's a different diffeent thing, right,

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And you knowists, Steve, you
know they have positive and negative things

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about but they're not they're not.
They get to have an opinion, they're

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swayed. They get to have an
opinion. I think as as someone and

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you guys do to that read a
lot of really good sports reporting, like

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that stuff sticks out, like the
Athletic does a really really good job.

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And a lot of fans like all
my friends that root for you of a

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are all my friends that root for
the Cardinals or the Suns. Like they're

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not going to the Athletic to read
the Phoenix Suns news or NBA news.

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They're going to, like you said, the fan sites have been like,

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oh is my team succeeding? Oh
awesome, and let me read about it.

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They don't really want to read what's
really happened, but it could be

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positive or they don't want they don't
want to read the as as uh as

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I said, the even handed stuff
that that kind of gives you the good

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and the bad side. But that's
what makes sports fans great, I guess.

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And then they come in sports fans
are and then they come in with

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their little comments. You're a tool
anyway. You know you're a tool anyway,

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take the sky high. You're on
the R and I and the all.

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Hey, gentlemen, and I say
that loosely, and missus Steve,

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this's got to be written. It's
got to be ritted. I love your

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brothers. Hey, I want to
just listen to your intro here. You

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know, Jed Fish had a great
year, totally uninstanted, and coaches and

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people they're familiar with sports. You
always want to have high expectations of your

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team for this year, next year, or whatever. But I would like

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to warn the fans we're going into
a whole different environment playing football next year,

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and probably football more so than other
sports because you play so many fewer

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games. Your competition is going to
be different, recruiting is going to be

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different, and have more All I
would ask about fans is to have realistic

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expectations of the ball team next year. Yes, you want to expect him

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to do the best. But on
the flip side is you've got to give

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him an opportunity to continue to grow
and so that hopefully Jed will be around,

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Hopefully university will figure out a way
to pay him and keep him afraid.

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He may go to Florida in a
couple of years. But long and

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short of it is, I just
wish the fans would have more of a

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realistic expectation of the football team,
not to deny them expectations, but also

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it's a different environment, so we
work around that. Well, well,

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I think it's like Miss America,
what are your wishes? Well, world

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peace? Good luck with that,
Rick, Good luck with that Rick,

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because I think realistic expectation is where
you kind of mess up. And you

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know this. You're saying this because
that's what you wish for. But fans

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here and anywhere, realistic has nothing
to do with anything. Well, I

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know, but unfortunately, if you're
not realistic, then you have tennessity to

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say things. Really don't have information
on comments and that's where we you know,

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And here's the stepbok Arizona one games
that here they weren't effected by something

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more than five maybe six and so, but we still couldn't fill the stadium

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right. Well, and you've seen
this, You've seen this. You've been

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here a long time, if not
forever, You've seen that happen forever.

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Well, when I was a Jim
LaRue with football coach, when I was

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a kid growing up. Okay,
so you guys don't even know who he

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is. I know who he is. And he tells me how old you

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are? Yeah, all right,
thank you anyway, that's my limited knowledge

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for the day, gentlemen, thank
you, good week. Appreciate you,

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thank you, thank you. Uh
yeah, Rick realist. I think he

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would have said, you wish that
would happen? Yeah, you know,

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but but yeah, yeah, but
so now you know, look I've been

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saying that too. You know that
that Arizona fans have to realize who we

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are, right and and and that
you know, Arizona's not you know,

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Michigan, Ohio State or any of
those, and you know, things happen,

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so you know, you just you
just you just have to come to

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grips with that. And you know, can Jed sustain what he you know,

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what he did today or even improve
on it? Maybe? You know,

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Arizona's had some shots at it before
and hasn't been able to do it.

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So, you know, just have
a have a realistic expectation of you

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know, what you can see now. I for one, am excited about

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what I what we might see next
year. Right, you know, we

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were just talking about that today at
lunch. You know where we sit today,

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Where we sit today, I think
the favorites for the Big TAALP Championship

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next year are Utah, Oklahoma State
in Arizona. Yeah, I don't disagree.

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Who else besides that, you know, maybe a Kansas or Kansas State,

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Right, but Kansas and Kansas State
are kind of like Arizona. Wait

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a second, so you how long
has it been since you ever said Arizona

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isn't a hunt for a conference title? Nineteen nineteen ninety eight, or after

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the after the ninety eight season,
right after the nineties. So I thought

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that after the after the twenty fourteen
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into preseason of twenty twenty fifteen when
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thought, why isn't anybody talking about
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they were. They went into the
pooper. Yeah, it's not into the

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pooper. They got into a bowl
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contend for the Pack Belt championship.
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the season ends, assuming if you
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get a bumper two in the ranking. But as it stands now, you

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of A would be the highest is
the highest ranked out of the teams that

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would be in the conference next year. And so if you're just talking about

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it, theoretically, sure, you
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the conferences and certainly among the favorites, which, as you said, Steve,

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we never get to say. You
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which is great, Which is great. Okay, Well, we're gonna go

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to break. We have a different
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three thirty five ish, right,
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but we will right take the break. Now come back for a shorter period.

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We'll take your calls. Yeah,
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fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back
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forteen fifty on Steve, He's Jay
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If we got a call before we
get to Guliander. On the other

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side, it'd be interesting to hear
what you guys have to say. What

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are we talking about before Fafita and
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buzz that was that was during the
break. Yeah, but the rumor mails

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already started. Stupid. Yeah,
I don't remember, Steve, already we

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were talking about uh, mainstream media
sports journalism. You don't know what yeah,

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what that looks like? Now?
Yeah, no, I think you

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hit it on the head, especially
for like you said with or we said

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last week with the Fox girl,
what's your name, Chris Thompson, what

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I asked? I think it was, Uh, it was it was Kevin.

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I said, is she a journalism
major? She's not a journalist.

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And that's part of the problem,
right, they don't know the things,

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the standards that you Well, there's
lots of people who call themselves journalists or

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media that are certainly not trained,
right, I mean right, anybody can

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call themselves media just by having a
website and you're out there and you've got

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a little bit of a platform or
whatever. But you know that's not doesn't

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make you a journalist. Yeah,
and you know, I hate to be

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hoity toy about this, but I'm
going to be hoity toy. I went

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and studied how to do this.
There's a way to do it, in

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a way not to do it.
Sure like anything else. Well, here's

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another issue for Sammy, because you're
going to get out into the real world

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and have to find a job.
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You're not competing against guys like USh, You're competing with former athletes who

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are or taking that Joel's jobs too. Don't get me started about that,

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because they're not journalists. Rob Gronkowski
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of the NFL. It's like he
show yeah and that there's a guy that

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looks like a complete fish out of
water. I love Rob. He's a

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great guy thing, he's a great
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go, yeah, guy, dude, you're kind of goofy, you know,

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but that's what they're shooting, shooting
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different if you get like, I
don't know if you're on Sunday nights or

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Monday nights. If you guys watch
the Manning cast. When you watch that

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like that, that's cool because they
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long and they know the intricacies of
the sports so well to where if you're

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trying to learn or get new insight, that's cool. Or like Greg Olsen

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in the Box, he's played it
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where people watching can be like,
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But there are so many other people
and and I like what, it doesn't

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matter the platform ESPN, ABC,
Fox, whatever, that just because they

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were an athlete or a famous act
or a famous other They think they can

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break down the game or give people
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Right, Like they're going, like, who is it that's gonna pay

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Tom Brady three hundred million dollars?
Fox, I think you know to be

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you know, to be a a
an analyst. Okay, he was a

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great quarterback. He's been great at
all the things that he's done. But

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how do we know he's gonna be
great at that that he should be getting

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paid three hundred million dollars. He's
gotta paid three hundred bion dollars because he's

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Tom Brady, not because we think
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gonna ask him to you. It's
it's similarly, sorry, similarly to win,

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and maybe it's a little different.
But when athletes try and go back

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and coach, right, Michael Jordan
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coach Bill Russell. He was kind
of coach. He was kind of in

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the middle. Pete Rose, yeah, you know, he was never a

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great manager. And it's like there
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to be able to do both and
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see are point guards or in football, it's a lot of quarterbacks that can

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go back and coach because they they
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It's like Jason Kidd is a very
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way better basketball player. Yeah,
well he looked more, you know more

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recently, after three games, people
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and nine games later they're like one
dream, how good it is? Good?

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She will find out. Yeah,
we will. She find out.

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And you're seeing a lot of people
jump ship they are purposely or otherwise.

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That was in my breaking news on
Monday. Oh yeah, we didn't get

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to it. So we talked about
James are still no I know, yeah

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they're yeah, but they're jumping from
everywhere. Well, well the transfer portal

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has opened, and it's like,
yeah, I mean they're like horses running

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out of the barns and including a
bunch of starting quarterbacks. Another one.

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Yeah, and so this wasn't bringing
us today. But since we're talking about

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it, the FBS came out and
said that twenty point five percent of all

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rosters are now transfers. Wow,
so so about a fourth of each team

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are guys that hadn't been there.
The fifth I can do a fit man

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and see, I don't go to
that. I don't go to school for

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Matt. I didn't either, but
I have that man. That's embarrassing.

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They didn't mean to embarrassing. Oh
no, it's it's kind of fun.

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No, it is. But I
think that's crazy. Like five years ago,

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people would transfer and it would take
them a year, if not two

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years, to be able to play
for the program, and now it's so

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many years. Do you have one
guy here, specifically a guy who transferred

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in now we'll transfer out, not
his own undoing, but you know,

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de Laura, we expect him to
be this to be gone. So he

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hasn't announced or anything like that.
But you know who's going to be shocked

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if he's in the transfer portal?
Nobody? Probably not a lot of people.

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No, So here we are.
Anybody want to call five two four

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I it's I guess it's just one
of those things, Dave, where you

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and I as the old guys,
have to be like, this is just

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different, and I'm accepting of it. I mean I don't. I'm not

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gonna sit here and say that.
I like the way things have have become.

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You know, Uh, the transfer
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it's not. Basically it is free
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you the most money, and that's
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know. And and and these guys
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know, bringing in whatever he's bringing
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he gets more visibility than if he
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t Mac and Cowen and Dorian Singer, who's going to transfer into Arizona that

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wants to play right now? So
you'd have had those three guys, Dorian

407
00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:02.200
Singer. At the way things turned
out, Dorian Singer would have gotten way

408
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:07.359
more visibility here at Arizona, you
know, playing in a better bowl game,

409
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.720
playing for a better team than USC
and you know who's gonna pay attention

410
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.079
to him in the bowl game because
us. He's gonna go play in the

411
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.960
Independence Bowlers somewhere like that, the
Sun Bowl where Arizona's gonna play against Oklahoma,

412
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.240
and that's gonna be a game that
people are gonna pay attention to.

413
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.079
And he probably would have had I
just saw a stat that both team act

414
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.200
and and Colween had over eighty catches
this year? How many how many of

415
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.240
those would have gone to Dorian Singer? And where would he be? Did

416
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.400
he get a million dollars? Probably
not? Did he get maybe a couple

417
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.160
of hundred thousand that he wasn't gonna
get here? Maybe? So what's the

418
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:44.400
long term benefit of what he did? We'll know. We won't know for

419
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:47.000
another He's got another year to play. No, he's got another year to

420
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.880
play. Maybe in the end,
maybe in the end, if he doesn't

421
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.359
decline. You know, he in
the end he gets uh, you know,

422
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:57.319
he he gets the the focus and
attention in the offense he was hoping

423
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:02.079
to get and he becomes that guy. It after this year He's not that

424
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.400
guy who's getting more attention Dorian Singer
or team act Dorian Singer take him calling

425
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.440
and they and they benefited from his
departure as well. They did do it.

426
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:12.519
They absolutely did. My thing is
if you have money and this is

427
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:18.359
no knock on Dolor, but he's
you got someone il right and someone else.

428
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.759
Uh, he didn't. He didn't
play that much. What are you

429
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:26.160
thinking if you gave that NL if
you're the businessman or the whatever the deep

430
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.599
pockets. It depends on what you
were asking him to do for right,

431
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.720
I mean, if you're asking him, if you're asking him to endorse a

432
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.039
product, yeah, that you know
you didn't get your money's worth. But

433
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:38.920
if you were just giving it to
him and saying, you know, because

434
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:41.839
you wanted to give it to him, and saying just come and do this

435
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.240
and I'll give you this, you
know, if you want to ask him

436
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.880
to go do some community to work
or come and work you know, uh

437
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.759
whatever, then you know, I
I Steve, I think most of the

438
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.279
NL money, not the big n
NL money, like you know the Heisman

439
00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:02.680
House and you're seeing Shador Chador and
Shilah Sanders on car National. Uh was

440
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.920
the Toyota or one of the car
you know, that's a that's a whole

441
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:11.119
different level of ni L. I
think in most cases ni L is just

442
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.119
where you've got boosters and supporters wanted
to give some money so that these guys

443
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:19.079
will have some money so that they'll
stayed at whatever school they're supporting. I

444
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:25.440
don't think there's an expectation that by
getting Jade and De Laura to promote my

445
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.039
potato chip company that I'm gonna make
a lot more money because he's promoting my

446
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.720
potato chip company. I want a
potato chip company and I like Arizona football,

447
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.920
so I'm gonna give some money so
De Laura gets it. I answer,

448
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.200
what a lot of the nil is? Well, there's a lot of

449
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.680
it out there. Yeah, there's
there's way a life. Well, we

450
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:48.359
talked about the slash with the Oklahoma
quarterback who no, no, the local

451
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.559
Courtencato cars. A couple of cars. How many cars you need? Right,

452
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:55.839
he got a couple of cars.
He didn't materialize. Williams stepped in

453
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.400
was the quarterback, and then he
took him away and then he left too.

454
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.519
Yeah. Well, the transfer portal
is tough, but it's also I

455
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:08.599
know because you've been watching you of
A forever and this team wouldn't be as

456
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:15.039
good as it is today without the
And I think that's where it's tough,

457
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.519
because we're we're so good right now
where one to nine games. Jedfish is

458
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.839
a great coach, we have what
seems to be a really close, tight

459
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:25.720
knit group. So now it's like, okay, it's still you have a

460
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:32.000
football and as a fan you're thinking, are these guys gonna you do?

461
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.119
But it's also like, okay,
we've had this season because we got some

462
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:40.079
guys here, will more guys come
here? It's a very o as a

463
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:42.880
you of a. We're very middle
ground in terms when it comes to football,

464
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.559
at least this year. We're not
We're not in the national team,

465
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.720
but we're not We're not the bottom
of the barrel like we had been before.

466
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.680
So being a middle ground team in
the transfer portal is tough because your

467
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.920
your top guys may leave, but
you may be getting so guys coming from

468
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:04.440
a like little lower levels that are
good. This is outside of the names

469
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.759
Jed and lout back in the eighty
three years when he showed up, had

470
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.000
the reputation and being a great final
you know, good, great coach.

471
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.559
Jed doesn't have that, but he
could have eventually. But if if Jed

472
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.480
stays and he establishes this, he
could have that moving forward, you know,

473
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.759
as a building block to moving forward
and can continue it. But you

474
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:27.000
haven't had that. The continuation hasn't
happened. But he he, I think

475
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.440
he has a better opportunity at that, a better chance to get to that.

476
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.799
I've been in the Big twelve.
Oh, going back to back to

477
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.960
the conversation we had, oh the
chap possibility, yeah, and his success.

478
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:42.119
So right, all right, let's
take our break. Tom Leander,

479
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.000
studio host for Sons TV, will
come on. We'll talk a little bit

480
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.519
about the end season tournament and then
just how the Sons are doing. Devin

481
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.480
Booker is back, So they're doing
really well right now eating one with Devin

482
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.720
Booker in the starting lineup. There
you go, folks, Hey, Sammy

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Steve Rivera and Jake and Salez they
have their eye on the ball on Tucson's

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Sports yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming
live. I mean I Odd Radio wap

528
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Hey, welcome back to I on
the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

529
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.159
I'm Steve Rivera, He's jacins offskind
of Guys Sammy with us. Now

530
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.840
on the phone. We have Tom
Leander from Son's TV. How you doing,

531
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.360
old buddy O'palell? Well, yeah, you're a buddy in Old Pal.

532
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.920
But I can't believe Samy's working with
you. Man, he's got to

533
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:39.880
be carried guys. Yeah, he
carries a lot of weight too. There's

534
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.119
there's some big guys in this.
He worked for you, did he work

535
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.960
for you? No? Tom,
Tom, you know we we worked together

536
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.840
a little bit with the Sons,
maybe help get him in the door a

537
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.239
little bit along with Tim Kempton,
and then he just did the rest of

538
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.559
his own on his own. But
you know, Brophy guys, they're so

539
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:59.480
smart anyways, and they're going to
succeed pass up. Oh my god,

540
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.920
everybody. Yeah, sure, I
wanted him on. I see. So

541
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.559
you're must be covered a pretty good
team this year. Finally, Well yeah,

542
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.719
people weren't saying that in the first
couple of weeks. You know,

543
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:14.800
everybody's panicking and Frank Vogel wasn't smiling
as much as he is now. But

544
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:16.559
still, I mean, we really
haven't had the big three together, but

545
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.039
apparently with just Devin Booker were okay. I mean, that guy's unbelievable on

546
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.960
it wins. Another Western Conference player
of the Week Award hits the game winner

547
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:29.480
in New York. Kd's been out
the last couple of games, but man,

548
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.840
he's just taken his game to another
level. My fear is when the

549
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.519
big three are together, how does
Frank Vogel will pick out who gets to

550
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:37.119
shoot that shot? I guess for
right now, it's got to be book

551
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:42.119
And then KD takes a back seat
and Bradley beals a third option. So

552
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.159
you guys, they're into the quarters
of the of the n Season Tournament.

553
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:52.119
Just for a novice like me on
this has the n Season Tournament been kind

554
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.280
of what they hoped it to be
from an interest standpoint, an interest among

555
00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:00.679
the player's standpoint? What's that been? Jay? Were all novices. I'm

556
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.599
still trying to learn out what the
heck went on in terms of qualifying for

557
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.199
the tournament. But I do know
they're in. They're taking on the Lakers,

558
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:13.360
and I definitely think that it's become, you know, almost a master

559
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.719
stroke by the NBA. I say, I was pretty skeptical to begin with.

560
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.519
I wasn't all in on it.
I know the NBA was really trying

561
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.320
to push this through their teams and
broadcasters and players, but the more it

562
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:28.559
went on, the more curiosity it
lent itself to, and then you start

563
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.840
seeing teams piling up. At the
end, we were playing Portland and Chauncey

564
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.920
Billips was getting all rough around the
edges because he was wondering why our starters

565
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.079
were still on the floor, and
they had to go over and explain to

566
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.119
him. Kevin Gurant did, Hey, it's all about point differential, and

567
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:44.280
you know, Steve Kerr had to, you know, figure that out to

568
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.519
Billy Donovan didn't know. I mean
a lot of the head coaches weren't even

569
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:51.320
aware of some of the schools.
But I think when all was said and

570
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.079
done, I mean, the wild, colorful courts and then the players being

571
00:37:54.119 --> 00:38:00.559
out there competed a little bit harder, and the curiosity factor and certainly the

572
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.639
competitive level increased. I mean the
players, they're doing it for the guys

573
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.079
at the end of the bench.
If whoever wins this thing, all those

574
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.679
players get five hundred thousand dollars,
that's going to double. Some of the

575
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.880
guy's salaries who were at the end
of the bench are on two way contracts,

576
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:16.840
so that definitely perked up the player's
interest. I was just going to

577
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.679
ask you what's the purpose. I
guess that's a pretty good purpose. That's

578
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:22.880
a really good purpose. I mean, you take a half a mill,

579
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.159
even if you're making you know,
thirty two million like you are right now,

580
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.360
Steve, you know you still still
take a half mill. You TV

581
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.000
guys. I'm not a TV guy. I got jail in my hair.

582
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.760
You know. You know that's a
lie you got so at least it still

583
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:43.079
got hair. Yeah, that's true, very very so. So tell me,

584
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.320
Uh, DeAndre Hayton, we got
to connect it to Arizona. Right,

585
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.000
how's that been? He's gone?
Uh? He played recently there?

586
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:53.400
What was the reception? Like?
Uh, you know, it's smattering a

587
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.880
booze, But I don't think it
was too bad. I mean it was

588
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.719
actually a little even more awkward when
Chris Paul came back because he was ejected

589
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.400
by Scott Foster and he wasn't even
around to watch his tribute video. So,

590
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:07.960
you know, we've had a couple
of homecomings back here, and I

591
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:12.199
think, you know, life is
going to be better for DeAndre in terms

592
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.880
of being able to spread his wings
a little bit more. In Portland.

593
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.239
He's got a lot of young players, so he kind of becomes one of

594
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:22.000
the leaders on that team because they're
probably going to get rid of Brogden and

595
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.239
any other veterans that they have on
that team. But you know, for

596
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.639
me, you know, I even
said it on the air leading up to

597
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:30.199
the game, I really was hoping
that there would be a bunch of applause

598
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.639
and a lot of support for da. He's a good kid, you know.

599
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.199
Certainly he didn't play as hard as
everyone would have liked, night in

600
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.280
and night out. He'd give you
a week or a couple of weeks of

601
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.400
just oh my goodness, this is
how good he could be. But then

602
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:46.719
he couldn't sustain it. But I
look back on that finals, running in

603
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.159
the playoffs, and we never would
have gotten there without him. I mean,

604
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.920
his defense throughout the course of the
playoffs, getting into the finals against

605
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:57.639
the Bucks, I mean that was
critical for the Sun to make it all

606
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.880
the way to the finals against Milwaukee. So and I just I really enjoyed

607
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:02.119
him. He's he's a fun loving
guy. I mean, he's not always

608
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:06.480
like the most intense player. He
doesn't get to the free throw a whole

609
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.559
lot because he doesn't initiate contact.
But off the court, he's a fun

610
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.440
guy. Yeah, tom So going
back to the nd season tournament. So,

611
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:16.400
whoever wins this thing, if it
were to be the Suns, they'd

612
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:22.039
be their first championship in franchise history, per se. What what would it

613
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.280
feel like in the building, Not
necessarily with the team, but it's fan

614
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:28.440
bases, those who work for it. But it's still would it still means

615
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.000
something? I guess, by the
way, that's the best question that anybody's

616
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.000
asking. Yes today, So that
well known standards, you know, I

617
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.199
think you know, a guy like
Frank Bogel who's won, you know,

618
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.440
in an NBA championship. It's probably
more about, you know, the players

619
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.679
and the success and building on that
and gaining momentum. I don't know that's

620
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.599
a good question because seriously, they
don't know until they actually go to Vegas

621
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:54.480
and they're standing mid court and holding
up the cup and you know, again

622
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.519
counting all the money that they win. But I think in terms of like

623
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.440
the franchise and the history of it, it's not going to mean a whole

624
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.079
lot. I mean, this whole
season is not going to mean anything unless

625
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.320
the Suns win at all. When
you collect this kind of talent on the

626
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:13.119
team, you know, winning an
intern in tournament in Las Vegas is nice

627
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:16.079
and hopefully that's a step in the
playoffs into a championship. But at the

628
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.599
end of the day, at the
end of the season, it's not going

629
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.000
to mean anything if they don't win
the title this year. Well, Tom,

630
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.639
I know you have to go,
but could you tell the the the

631
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:27.320
people inside the bilding to turn the
music down. It's a little too low.

632
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.880
Okay, Okay, there's Steve Kerr, Steve Verver, all the Steve

633
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.320
Well, you guys all have hearing
problems. We're just we're just old man.

634
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.800
I know it is. It is
really loud in there. I do

635
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:45.119
have to agree with Steve, especially
on Native American Night when they got the

636
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:50.320
drums pounding. Can't make everybody happy. Tom, thanks for making us happy

637
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.920
today. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Tom. All right, guys,

638
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:59.400
take care of Tom. Cool,
cool guys. That was funny about Kurve

639
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:04.559
when Yeah, by the way,
he plays basketball in year. The funny

640
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.079
thing about it, he was he
was embedded with them for a long time.

641
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.639
Yeah, the g l Yeah,
you probably helped create that. Turn

642
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.199
it down. I love Tom.
He's always been a great guy. He's

643
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.119
always been super nice. Yeah,
okay, we're not gonna go to break

644
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.239
in the time. So we have
eight minutes, nine minutes, do you

645
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.480
guys want to call? Well,
you know, and he makes a good

646
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:25.559
point. I mean, yes,
it'd be nice to win this tournament all

647
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:30.079
that stuff, but you know this
franchise, it's it's about time and had

648
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.440
a championship. And so who's on
the other side of the West. So

649
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.079
so okay, so it's Suns Lakers. We go to the Sons go to

650
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:39.800
l a and then it is King's
Pelicans. The Kings will go to New

651
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:45.079
Orleans, and then in the East
it's Milwaukee and New York Knicks, and

652
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.639
then you have the Celtics going to
the Pacers. So you have kind of

653
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.639
like the Celtics, the Bucks,
the Suns, the Lakers all expect to

654
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.719
be in it towards the end of
the season. But then you have the

655
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:59.920
likes of the Kings, the Pelicans, the Knicks and the Pacers. You

656
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.920
haven't seen a lot of success that
are still this This maybe means a little

657
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:06.559
bit more to them, can It
could be? Especially for the Pacers.

658
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.400
You could see them if if if
one of them wins, it sort of

659
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.920
giving them kind of acting as a
springboard for them for the rest of the

660
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.360
season to kind of feel good about
themselves, say hey, we're good enough,

661
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:17.719
and give them a whole lot of
confidence the rest of the year.

662
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:22.079
Which so you know, I was
like Leander, I I didn't think.

663
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.960
I thought, what are they doing
with this tournament? But as it's gone

664
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:29.199
along, I have paid, you
know, I paid attend to games that

665
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.599
these are part of the tournament.
I was looking at the standings, you

666
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:34.280
know, then I saw the bracket. I'm like, wait, wait a

667
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.960
minute, this is actually kind of
cool because these guys are competitive. They're

668
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.960
competitors. You know, you say, we're gonna have a Tiddley Wings tournament,

669
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.039
No, no idea, No,
okay, well we'll explain that off

670
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.719
air. You know, we're gonna
have a Tiddley Wings turnament. These guys

671
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:53.159
would be competitive, and I think
the main goal of this was to limit

672
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:58.320
load management and get the best players
on the floor and for them to care

673
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.679
about what the regular season is,
right, And I think when you look

674
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.960
at it, you look at the
Indiana Pacers with Ben Mathrin, Tyrese Haliburton

675
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.000
obi top of mouse Turner, those
guys aren't necessarily household names, and now

676
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:15.440
they're gonna be They have one television
one nationally televisionvised game a year, now

677
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:20.159
they're gonna get three because they're in
this n season tournament. Like that's that's

678
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.320
important to those guys. It's important
to that market. And when you're the

679
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:29.440
Lakers and you're the Celtics who have
won champions championships after championship, it's still

680
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.719
kind of cool because this is the
first And like you said, these players

681
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.639
are competitive. They wouldn't be here
if they weren't. And so if you

682
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.159
say anything as a tournament or anything
means more naturally, they're gonna maybe play

683
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.119
a little bit harder. And I
don't know if you guys got the chance

684
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.159
to watch some of the games that
were on last night, they were they

685
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:52.360
were fantastic NBA games. I saw. I saw they just pissed that game

686
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.079
away. Oh man, that was
in some of my breaking news, but

687
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:58.519
it was. It was awesome.
I'm not a big Warriors fan, never

688
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.880
have been, but to watch those
two teams compete and what what has felt

689
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:07.199
like now like maybe the biggest rivalry
in NBA right now because the seven game

690
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.320
series they had last year in the
playoffs, and this year they play such

691
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.000
a fun style that when you watch
it, it feels like they're going blow

692
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.880
for blow and it's it was great. And those guys cared last night and

693
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.840
it was the end of November.
And that's the thing. Yep, that's

694
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.719
the thing. That's cool because a
guy like me who doesn't really watch a

695
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:29.039
lot of NBA, I don't watch
it because I don't feel like those guys

696
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.079
are all in, you know,
week to week, game to game because

697
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.320
what it's ending pretty soon and then
to go back to what they that's true,

698
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.880
but at least you have a segment
for a while. But the the

699
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:43.840
thing, the timing of this is
unique because you have this in season tournament

700
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.239
and then it's a couple of weeks
before All Star Break, which maybe those

701
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:51.480
guys take maybe it doesn't do the
job of maybe guys take time off,

702
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.400
But as soon as the All Star
break's over, it's all these teams that

703
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:58.679
are in position to go compete for
the playoffs and that play in newly playing

704
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.280
game. They're gonna be there,
stillingna be playing hard. So I like

705
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.039
the timing of it too. Yeah, I mean, it gave you a

706
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.400
few weeks of guys, actually yeah
hard and you and you get to see

707
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:12.559
as a Suns as a Suns fan, like you get to see what maybe

708
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.840
these role players or new additions are
gonna play, like when it when the

709
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:21.000
lights are a little bit brighter,
and there you have a feeling of a

710
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.920
playoff game, like I don't know
how Grayson Allen or Eric Gordon or Nurkic

711
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:28.559
is gonna be able to perform in
a game six in a in a playoff

712
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:30.239
game, but this next couple of
weeks you might be able to get that

713
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:35.719
feel a little bit of a feel
of like, Okay, the Kings,

714
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.800
they haven't gotten over the hump in
a long time and made a push in

715
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:44.079
the playoffs. Let's see if they
can play when when pressure matters in the

716
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.159
games means something. And and as
a fan, if you're a Kings fan

717
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.280
or even man, I'm a Suns
fan. And like I said, we

718
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:54.920
haven't won anything ever. Conference championship. No, we're talking titles like man,

719
00:46:55.199 --> 00:47:00.840
Western Conference like this that the other
the Diamondbacks just into the World Series

720
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:02.559
and I'm still mad that they lost
in the World Series and we weren't even

721
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.719
so supposed to be there. So
it's all about holding up trophies at the

722
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:09.800
end of the day. And if
you can win the first in season tournament,

723
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:14.880
I think that's pretty cool. Yeah, okay, I agree you fan

724
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.639
boys, sure, as as fans
as we love sports. Yeah, you

725
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:22.639
love sports and you know it,
you deny it, but you know,

726
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.559
like even if even if your team
isn't in the top eight, like these

727
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.199
are still gonna be high quality basketball. And as an NBA fan, I'm

728
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:36.360
interested, well to your point,
I'm interested in the Pacers now given Ben

729
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:45.239
and uh, I'm right trying to
come up with the name, Oh god,

730
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.679
Steve Trunk Kennedy, but I got
called on that again today. But

731
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.840
you know, you think of Lebron
James and the competitor that he is.

732
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.880
He's going out, He's going out, yeah, in that in that quarter

733
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:02.480
of final game to bust some butt. She wants to win that. Yeah.

734
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:06.920
And you look at it as the
Sons and Lakers very well, or

735
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:12.599
the Kings Pelicans very well could play
each other in the playoffs, and you

736
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.239
don't think whoever wins this Sun's Lakers
game will have some loose ends the tie

737
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.400
up. If they do play against
each other, you never know what's going

738
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.960
to happen. And I'm just thinking
of the point. If the Knicks going

739
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.639
to win this thing, the New
York faithful won't stop talking about it,

740
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.639
right, And that's that's as of
until they don't make the play exactly the

741
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:31.960
playoffs. They're actually not that bad. But that's that's as a fan that

742
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:37.760
that's even delusional or not. And
New York nick fans are some of the

743
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.079
most. But that's something you you
can root for, and it's around it's

744
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.840
around the holiday time. You can
be with your friends and you watch games

745
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.960
and you and you care well well
again, you know, let let's put

746
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:51.800
it in more of a local perspective. You know, the way Arizona basketball

747
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:57.480
fans react when they win a MILEI
imitation or they win whatever tournament that they're

748
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.000
in. When they would win the
preseason n I t right, people are

749
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:05.000
immediately saying, we got to shout
at the national champion. That stretches out

750
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.880
until the season, until they get
to until until they don't. We see

751
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:12.800
this year, this is the worst, the worst thing that happened with this

752
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.719
team. They beat Duke and they
played the great in Kains Michigan State.

753
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:20.159
The best thing is they beat Duke
in the Yeah, Michigan State. Yeah,

754
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.079
and it's going to be really up
to those guys. By those guys,

755
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:29.000
I mean the guys on the team
to block out the outside noise and

756
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.440
just keep playing both as we have
a minute and a half. Okay,

757
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:37.519
now that you've seen five six games, what's what's the worst case scenario for

758
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:44.159
them moving forward in March? What's
going to be a disappointment anything getting to

759
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:49.559
the final four? Right? I
was gonna say the second weekend, No,

760
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.320
the expectation, No, are you
kidding me? If they only get

761
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.159
to the sweet sixteen with this team, they're gonna be a disappointed. It's

762
00:49:54.199 --> 00:50:00.559
like it was two years ago there, unless they unless they follow over themselves

763
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:01.480
the rest of the year, they're
gonna go in as a probably a one

764
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:05.400
or two seed, and which you
go in as one or two seed,

765
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:07.920
you're expected to get to that.
It's March though, like last year we

766
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.360
were two, party was a one. They lost in the first game of

767
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:14.639
their See, you get it,
you get it. You're not a typical

768
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:19.599
fan who's gonna jump off a ledge
in March sixteenth, because I hear everyone's

769
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:21.960
like, oh, you guys didn't
win the National championship. You know what,

770
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.760
only one team wins a Nationals still, of course it is, but

771
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:30.199
but everybody that follows these guys sure
feels that way, especially after a couple

772
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:35.000
of big wins. Yeah, I
agree. I mean he was talking about

773
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:39.000
brick for football. What more unrealistic
fans in basketball? Yeah, there's a

774
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:43.000
lot more though, a lot more
of those, right, a lot more

775
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:49.960
because it's just because there's been some
success, that's why. Wow. All

776
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.360
right, okay, cool. We
went in a lot of circles there,

777
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.440
we did. We still into a
lot of stuff and we're back where we

778
00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:00.840
were, alright. Country music,
Yeah, take our break, ord to

779
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.960
come back. Sammy's loaded up with
breaking news. So will I lose my

780
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.800
dog and my girlfriend? In this
song? No, he talks about Jesus.

781
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.039
We need to find Jesus here.
Let's get out of here. We'll

782
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:19.039
be right back. Right outside of
this wan Church town, there's a gold

783
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.480
dirt road to a whole lot of
northern gotta d to the land. But

784
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.880
it ain't my ground. This is
God's country.