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At at. Tonight's guest was featured
on episode three ninety nine and all that

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show. She told us about an
encounter she had with a ten foot dog

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man years ago, but unfortunately,
about a week ago, she had another

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encounter, but this time it was
with a dog woman. Of course,

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I'm talking about Kim. Kim,
thanks so much for coming back. Oh,

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thank you for having me, Vick. It's a pleasure. Well,

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you're welcome. Yes, great,
haven't you. I'm not too keen on

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an idea why you are coming back, the fact you've had another encounter,

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but it happened and there's nothing we
can do about that. But before we

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talk about this latest encounter, Kim, for the people who missed episode three

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ninety nine, please tell them about
yourself. Oh, that's kind of a

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bland subject. I'm sixty five.
I'm a retired nurse. I work as

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a sound therapist in a long term
facility for brain trauma and dementia patients part

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time. The rest of the time
I drive around and don't look for dog

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man. What's unfortunate it is?
It sure seems like sometimes they look for

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you. Well, honestly, I
never thought i'd see one, but I

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did. See this little girl.
I saw a little female And actually I

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was out driving around today and I
was so tempted to go back down that

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road. And believe me, I
pay attention to the woods now as I

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drive down the street. And I
told you I wasn't going to do that,

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but I'm doing it. Well.
I'm glad you're back out there doing

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what you love to do. Isn't
it funny how you never expect to have

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a dog man encounter until it happens. Yeah, but I didn't technically have

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a dog man encounter. I had
a dog lady encounter. Yeah, you're

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right that you did that. You
did, huh? Speaking of that last

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Tuesday, around one pm, you're
heading to your mother's house, and that's

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when this encounter happened. How far
were you though from home at the time.

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Oh, it's only about a seven
mile track between my house and hers,

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and I was probably midway. That's
probably three miles from home. That's

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pretty close. Can you even set
foot in the woods, now, Kim,

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without being a nervous wreck? Probably
the answer is yes, but maybe

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a shade under a nervous wreck.
I'm still pretty leary. I'm pretty lary

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in a little bit hesitant even the
woods. I live in front of a

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set of dense woods, and they
drive me nuts. From what I understand,

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you literally live feet from the woods. Yeah. I don't have any

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back windows. I live in a
motor home and the back of my house

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is not windows. It's a closet, so I can't see back there.

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And it's a good thing I can't
because they would drive me nuts. Oh,

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I'm sure it would. At nighttime. I'm sure you close all the

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drapes and pull down all the blinds
that, don't you. Oh, yes,

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definitely. Yeah. I've never been
able to be in any kind of

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home with the windows open and the
shades up at night. I'm back that

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up, not the windows open.
I like the windows open, but I'm

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saying, you know, the blind's
up. I'm the kind of person that

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likes my windows open as long as
I can have them open, but the

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curtains have to be down. I
don't want to see what's looking in at

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me. Yeah, you and a
lot of other people, And I'm kind

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of that way in a way.
I mean, I love living out in

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the country, but I never could
understand why people would go to bed or

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when nighttime fell them leaving their drapes
open. It's almost like you're in a

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fish bowl. I know you don't
have neighbors in those cases where people can

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just look out their window and in
yours, but still, I just don't

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like that idea of having your drapes
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country. I had a girlfriend that
lived in the country and she didn't have

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drapes or curtains, and it was
just crazy. I mean, using her

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bathroom drove me nuts because I felt
like, you know, anybody could see

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in. And I used to maybe
sit for some people when I was a

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teenager. They didn't have any curtains
and they had this big black, open

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sliding door and I'd have to run
across it. Oh no, to get

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into the kitchen. Yeah. So
yeah, I like curtains. Yeah,

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Slash podcast. Two seconds before you
had this latest encountery Kim, where were

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you at mentally when it came to
your first one? The first one I

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probably pretty much healed from. I
never imagined that I would ever see one

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again. I didn't know that's what
I was looking at when I saw the

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first one until I ran into your
show and talk to you. And of

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course now I'm obsessed and addicted to
this kind of show. But I was

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pretty well over it, except for
the going out at night thing in that

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woods, But any other time I
was fine daylight. I much prefer daylight.

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Now I think I'm going to be
a little bit hesitant about would side

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roads from here on out. And
that's understandable, especially when the consider the

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pattern that you have to be noticing. Now, two encounters on the road,

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so I understand why, Well,
better to see them on the road

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than have them come find me.
Oh, of course, yeah, if

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you have to have an encounter,
it's most definitely better to have them on

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the road than have them come pay
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How often did you think about Dogman
before you have this most recent encounter,

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and when you did think about them, where did your mind go? Well,

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I listened to so many of the
programs, and I listen to them

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at night when I'm going to bed. It's it's the woods after dark.

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When I think of them, I
don't go out. I have to go

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out and hang up my clothes,
and I don't like doing that with the

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dark woods. So it just depends
on what I've listened to or what I've

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been, you know, exposing myself
to. I'm fascinated and intrigued by them,

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but yeah, I have a fear
of them, and the fact that

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I know they're everywhere now especially now, Wow, it's probably worse now because

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I know they're absolutely everywhere. You
told me they were and now I know

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they are. Yeah, unfortunately they
are. If you've had a Dogman encounter,

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As we've already established, you're featured
on episode three ninety nine, and on

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that show you told us about your
first encounter, the encounter you had with

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that ten footer on that road that
one night before we talk about this latest

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encounter Kim, let's listen to that
experience that you shared on that show.

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Okay, I live in a metropolitan
area. We've got Kansas City, Kansas,

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and Kansas, Missouri here, so
this place is huge and over the

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years everything's grown together, but we
still have a lot of rural area,

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a lot of farm area, a
lot of back roads, especially out between

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Winduck County and Leavenworth County, which
is where my actual encounter happened. Down

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in that area. It's Kansas Highway
five and it runs between rural Winduck County

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on the west see that's the north
side, and Leavenworth County on the eastern

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side. It runs down along the
Kansas River bottom and the town down there

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is Walcott. There's a lot of
odd activities down there and a lot of

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stories, and there's a family that
was murdered. The sun is the Andrew

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family. The son murdered his sister
and his parents, and this story is

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supposed to be equal to In Cold
Blood, but it's not as popular,

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so that's kind of the way it
started. And also it's down there along

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the river and there's some caves.
They're not very deep, but the kids

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would hang out in the caves there's
a lot of satanic panic going on.

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It was the seventies, so between
the caves and the murder, and there's

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a mysterious farm, the Barton Farm. It's down below the dam of Winett

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County Lake that was always locked up
and there were always stories. Now,

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I don't none of this is my
experience. These are just the things I

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was spinning around in as a teenage
girl, and you know, you soak

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it in, you know, how
kids are. We go for the sensation.

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And I always thought that being in
the caves was scandalous till I found

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out my mother actually had ever been
there as a girl too. But I

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just, you know, we thought
we were getting by with stuff, and

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we ran those back roads and my
boyfriend was a country boy and he drove

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an old farm truck and we ran
those roads. It was late July and

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I think nineteen seventy four. I
was between sixteen and seventeen, and he

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and I were spending a lot of
time together because he was going off to

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the army and I was going to
go to nursing school, and so we

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were spending a lot of time together
and we would just drive around and run

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the road, and you know how
teenagers do. They find little dark spots

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to kind of be all over,
But we won't talk about that. So

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that's what we would do. We
were running. We were running our area.

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It's a country highway. The trees
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There's spaces on both sides of the
roads, like maybe twelve feet off

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before the actual wooded areas start,
and they have ditches. But lots and

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lots and lots of wood, lots
and lots and lots of farms. And

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it's hilly. It has soft hills
and a lot of it is in the

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River Valley and the big hills that
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and then you go up into the
hills and Wana County Lake is hilly.

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It's actually very beautiful green it's a
beautiful area. The night we were out,

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it was beautiful. It was a
summer night. We had the windows

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down on the truck and we were
just cruising along. You ready for my

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story, sure? By all means? Okay, Well, we were cruising

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along. I was playing with the
radio. I was sitting next to him,

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so I was right in the middle
of the seat to him. That's

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what we kids do, and I
was playing with the radio and he was

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always griping at me because I didn't
like his music. You'd say, well

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you fix it. So IM messing
with the radio and I feel him startled.

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He jumps, his body jumps,
and I'm half met down looking at

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the radio. This I sit up. I'm looking straight up into the slant

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of the windshield and there is this
creature. He's already in. This creature

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is already in front of the truck. He's probably taken his first step.

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And I look straight up into this
creature about ten foot tall. I'll describe

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him in a minute, but ten
foot tall, and he's just walking in

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front of the truck. He's not
even looking at us. And as we

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approach, I think the first time
I saw him, we were maybe twenty

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feet from him, and as we
got closer, we got to maybe ten

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foot from him before he had had
time to take two more steps, and

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by that time he was on the
other side of the road. So you're

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talking three strides to cross this highway, and I hot why is a highway

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twenty four feet I don't know,
but anyway, he took three strides and

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he was on the other side of
the road and we had our windows down.

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We didn't even consider it. Both
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Neither one of us even thought about
this till later. So my boyfriend's slowing

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down because he's in shock, and
I'm looking at this thing and I'm saying,

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no, no, no, no, don't stop. Let's go.

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Let's go take me home right now. And as I'm watching this creature,

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it goes to the other side of
the road. It turns around and looks

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at us and just stands there and
looks at us. As I drive away,

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it stood there just as straight up
tall and just watched us. It

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had red eyes, and he did
nothing except just walk across the highway and

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turn around and look at us.
And he stood there and I watched him.

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I turned around and looked at him
through the back window of the truck,

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and he didn't move. I mean, we were way way way out

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of sight before I ever saw an
indication, and he moved off the road.

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But anyway, back to the creature, he was i'd say ten foot

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tall, and I'm taking that from
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a farm truck and they didn't have
little tires, and they weren't close to

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the ground. This was just an
old farm truck, and it was really

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tall because I took me a lot
of effort to get up into this truck.

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Didn't have running boards, and I
almost had to run and jump up

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into the seat. So I'm saying
this creature was ten foot tall and it

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had dog's feet. I don't know
if there were claws on the feet,

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I don't remember that, but they
were dog's feet. They were huge.

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If they were human feet, they
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And then he had a knee.
He had a knee on his leg,

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and they weren't skinny legs. They
were pretty built legs, except down at

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the bottom where it bent and came
down into the foot. But the feet

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were huge, and he was standing
straight up, but he was just a

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little bit curved. I don't know
if that's the natural stance. And I'm

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seeing him from the side, totally
from the side. I'm seeing all this,

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and his arms hung down past his
knees, and he had claws,

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long claws maybe an inch, and
long fingers, hands, not paws.

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Hands. Now I didn't see a
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One was a little shorter than the
others. But he did not have an

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imposable thumb. But he did have
what it looked like a hand, and

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he just walking along, just swinging
his like you know. He was in

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the middle of New York sight seeing. Just walked across the road, beautiful

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dark gray fur, maybe some black, but I saw gray. We had

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to give us moon that night,
so there was quite a bit of light.

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There weren't any street lights. But
I could see him pretty clearly,

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and I'm seeing him from the side, and he has a snout, pretty

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long snout but not i'd say wolfish
looking. I've heard shepherd, but I

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see wolf. I pay a lot
of tension to wolfs. I support a

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lot of wolf saving groups and stuff. So I'm saying wolf because he looks.

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I've always loved wolfs, and this
brings wolf up to me. Not

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dog, but a doggie looking face, long snout, and he had ears,

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but at that point in time,
I didn't see the ears until he

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clearly and I'll describe that as after
he walks across the road and he he

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did not have a tail, because
I saw him, I saw his back

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end. He did not have a
tail, very wide shoulders, very built,

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chest, tall, standing up pretty
straight. It's pretty amazing. After

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I found out what this thing was, how human it looks, and it's

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torso. I didn't see a neck, didn't have a tail Anyway, he

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crosses the road and he just turns
around nonchalantly and is looking at us.

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Well, as he's looking at us, I can see his face better,

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and I can see the snout better, and he has longish fur around his

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head, on his chest and his
tummy belly area. The fur doesn't look

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that long, but as he walked
across the road, I saw the fur

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down his back, and when he
turned around, I could see the fur

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up over his head. But his
ears tall, I'd say three inches tall.

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And they were both turned in towards
each other, straight up, but

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they bowed in towards each other,
and I thought I was looking at Satan.

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I thought those were horns when I
first saw this thing. And then

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the red eyes didn't help because there
was a rumor about the Satanists doing rituals

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down there in the caves and stirring
up Satan, and there was a rumor

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about Satan walking around down there in
the walk up bottoms. So when I

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saw this guy, and I did
not see if it was a guy or

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not. I'm just thinking because it
was such a huge creature, so I

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can't tell you it was male for
sure or not. But anyway, that's

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why I thought what I was looking
at was satan until many years later and

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I started hearing about your show and
stuff. Just here recently did I realize

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or did I even start thinking about
this guy again? And yes, it

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scared me to that, it really
did. Didn't talk about it. I

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tried to get my boyfriend to talk
about it, but he wouldn't. I

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think said something to his dad about
it, and his dad told him,

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just don't bring that up. And
you didn't see it. And of course

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I never said anything to my parents
because I thought I was somewhere I wasn't

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supposed to be and I would have
gotten punished for being where I was,

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so I didn't say anything. All
right, Kim, now that we listen

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to your first encounter, please tell
us about this most recent one. Now

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give us every last detail that comes
to mind. Okay, this occurred exactly

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a week ago. Exactly a week
ago today. I was on my way

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to my mother's and she lives in
the next town. It just takes me

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probably fifteen minutes to get to her
house. But I'd take all back roads.

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I take back roads because of my
eyesight. I don't drive on the

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main roads, and I don't normally
take the road. I'd probably drive this

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road maybe one out of ten times
when I go that way. There's several

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ways I can go. And I
just happened to want to go up that

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road last Tuesday because it was seventy
five degrees the sun was shining, it

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was beautiful. I wanted to look
at the trees, and that's a pretty

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It curves and curves and curves.
It has a lot of switchbacks on itself,

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and it goes up and downhills at
the same time, and it is

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a very short distance. It's like
maybe a mile and a half max.

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The length of this entire road.
And I decided to go that way,

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so got up in there, and
I actually passed the last house on the

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road. And there aren't any houses
on this wooded strip that I would drive

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through. There's houses at the beginning
and at the end of this, but

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the whole area that's all twisty turney
in his woods. There are no right

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of ways there's no houses, just
the road, and it almost is narrower

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than the rest of the paved roads
around. But anyway, I got up

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in there and I heard footsteps and
they were two bipedal, you know,

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step step step step. I kept
thinking, well, maybe it's a horse,

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maybe it's a deer. I thought, well, no, it can't

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be. It's only two steps and
before, and there are no ditches,

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and their road would be very difficult
to ride a horse on. I think

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that they would be a little bit
slick and dangerous because of the curves and

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cars. Now, one car came
through the whole time I was in there

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either, so the cars are very
few and far between, I would think.

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Anyway, I heard footsteps in the
leaves. It was like somebody was

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shushing their feet through the leaves.
You know how little kids walk through the

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leaves and kick. Well. I
probably thought about this for about thirty seconds,

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wondering what it was, and I
looked in my side mirrors, my

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rearview mirror. It was hard to
turn around and look out the window on

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my left hand side out the door
because I was trying to drive these curves.

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And about the time I got tired
of trying to stretch and break my

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neck looking to see what it was. I stopped and the creature that was

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making the noises walked up to me
at about the same time. She was

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about twelve to fifteen feet from me, and it was a little gray female

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dog man, and she was as
startled as I was. I mean,

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I really startled her. She started
to go down on all fours, but

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she changed her mind and she stood
back up, and she was standing pretty

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tall. I know that they have
kind of a hunch to them, but

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she seemed to be standing very upright
for some reason. Maybe it was just

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the way she was standing, because
she was actually below me. The woods

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are lower than the street. So
she startled and I startled, and we're

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both sitting there looking at each other, and she actually dipped her head and

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was looking at me like through her
eyelashes at first, and then she's straightened

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up. And about the same time
she straightened up, the sun came out

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of the clouds, and she was
like spotlighted with this sunlight. So I

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saw everything about her, had to
toe her little toes feet everything. I

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saw everything, but back to her
facial expressions. She was looking at me

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through her eyelashes, straightened her face
up, and then almost tipped her nose

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up in the air, you know, like U H. She was at

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a very satty attitude. Her little
tail was switching the whole time. She

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had a little gray, fuzzy tail, and she was gray. But anyway,

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her little nose was in the air, and when she brought her nose

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back down, she buried her teeth, and it didn't look like she was

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smiling your grinning at me. I
left. I didn't sit around any longer

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and look at this young lady because
I knew her daddy was somewhere. She

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wasn't very tall. She was about
five foot I'm about five foot one,

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so she's not very tall, and
she was small. And they're shaped different

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than the males. She's got the
triangular upper body shape from the shoulders to

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the waist, but it's not as
severe, and their little pelvic area is

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different round her bigger. It makes
sense they're female. And she had my

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memory glands. I think I counted
about four, and they weren't completely developed.

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She wasn't completely developed. I don't
think by looking at her that she

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was in mating age just yet.
So anyway, after I left, I

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just went on to my mom's and
I'll go back and describe her. She's

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gray. I had golden eyes which
lit up in the sunlight when the sun

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hit her. Her little ears,
she had little pointed ears. They were

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probably two and a half inches long
high, and they were going like little

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satellite dishes the whole time. She
was looking at me and I was looking

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at her. And she has the
gray tail, probably maybe three feet long,

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and it was just switching the whole
time, like she was some honrie

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kitty cat. She was just swishing
that little tail, very sassy attitude,

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totally silver gray. I saw her
hands. She kept her hands kind of

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suspended at her sides, but that
bent up. They weren't straight down.

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She kind of kept them bent up. I saw her hands, and she

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has the fingers with the nails.
Her nails weren't as long as the previous

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creature that I saw. Her little
nails were maybe an inch long. And

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she had the typical canine legs and
feet for the dog man. They looked

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like giant rabbit feet and then they
turned back and become She had knees,

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but her bottom half is definitely looking
like a dog. She didn't you know

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she doesn't have the type three legs. She's a definite just bodified dog man

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versus little girl. I had the
feeling the whole time that her daddy was

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somewhere, and it took everything I
could not to go down that road today

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because I was at my mother's again
today and I wouldn't go down the road.

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I sure wanted to, but I'm
so afraid I'll run into her.

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Actually I kind of would like to
run into her. Vick has asked me,

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would I ever go looking for dog
men? And I don't think so,

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but I wouldn't mind seeing that young
lady again. She was very,

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very interesting and very unusual. I
don't hear much about dog ladies on any

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of the shows, very seldom.
And she was not full grown, so

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probably maybe next spring. I mean, we don't know what their growth phases

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are. We don't know how they
mature and how long it takes them to

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grow from a pup to an adult, so we don't know when she might

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be, but maybe next spring.
I mean, I don't know why he

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was her father or her brother or
whoever was in charge of her was letting

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her roam around, but he wasn't
far and I'm kind of glad he wasn't

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anywhere where I saw him, because
I think I would have been scared.

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I would have been able to drive, I probably would have been scared out

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of my skin. But she was
a delight and a privilege. And I

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can't believe that she let me see
her. I can't believe that her people

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let her show herself like that.
But she was just so blatantly she was

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beautiful. She was absolutely beautiful,
beautiful creature. I'm her little nose,

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her little snout. I have two
Pomeranians, and I have a male and

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I have a female, and my
little female has a nice, short little

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snout and looks very feminine. And
this little girl kind of reminds me of

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that. Her little snout was triangular
shape and short and very very feminine.

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Everything about her screamed female. Well
I'll tell you what, Kim, if

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you have to have a dog man
the counter, thank goodness you had one

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like that this time around. I
sure beats the pants off of that first

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one with a ten foot or doesn't
it. Yes, in contrast, it's

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almost comical. I mean here,
I think I'm looking at Satan, and

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then I have this little animated creature
in front of me today. That looks

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like some little girl's plushy. And
I'm not belittling that she's a dog man.

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I'm just saying she was so and
she was I was gonna say she's

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so innocent. She wasn't innocent.
She was just as cocky and sassy as

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she could be prancing around. So
I don't know. Maybe she's not a

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human woman. Now it's my turn
to I don't know. But she was

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absolutely beautiful. Yeah, sounds like
she must have been. It's fun how

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you described her as being such a
sassy little thing. I've given her a

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name. You have, what name? Her name's Ember, Ember, because

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of her fiery eyes amongst the ashes
of her grayfur. Well, that's a

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great name for it. It sounds
like I like that. It's clear that

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you have fears a stem from your
encounters Kim. But can you think of

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any fears you have now that you
consider to be unreasonable? No? No,

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I think well, fear is a
name defense mechanism, and the people

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that aren't fearful have got something wrong
with them. I mean, if you

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just go boldly into this unknown world
of the dog man, I think that's

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just a little bit careless, and
I don't know just bad. There are

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dog men out there that will hurt
you, so you don't know which one

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you're running into, so it is
good to be on guard. When you

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started hearing those footsteps, how far
did this seem to be from you?

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I think they sounded like they were
twenty or thirty feet to my left in

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the woods. And that's why it
didn't make any sense for me to even

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think about it being a horse,
because it was in the woods. And

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I think she was coming at me
in a diagonal because of the way the

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road meanders. I think she was
coming in a diagonal. And I really

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don't think she was expecting me more
than I was expecting her. Might not

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have been expecting you, but she
had every opportunity to conceal herself, but

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instead of doing that, she forced
the issue and came right there, within

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about fifteen feet from you. Yeah, she wasn't far at all. Yeah,

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it was almost unnerving after i'd stop
and think about it. Oh,

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I'm sure it was really unnerving.
If you don't mind revealing this info,

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and again there's no pressure to do
this, but if you don't mind revealing

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it, what kind of a car. Do you drive a Dodge Journey?

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Oh, okay, a Journey,
Yeah, a Dodge Journey. Yeah,

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so you weren't exactly riding up in
the clouds, but it's not like you're

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driving a compact car. Then,
No, I wasn't sitting on the ground

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in a car. No, I
was up high, but it's not still

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not very big. Yeah, I
guess sitting in a Journey is not going

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to be that much higher than a
car. So I see what you mean.

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Were your windows up at the time
or down? They were down until

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I saw her. Then they were
up and the doors were locked. The

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doors lock automatically when you start the
car, the door's lock, but the

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windows were down, but they were
up when I saw her. As soon

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as I saw her, I put
the windows up. They were all down.

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I'll bet you're glad those doors were
locked. Yes, I was,

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but I didn't. But you know
what, I didn't have to stop.

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I could have just kept going.
Yeah, you could have, that's true.

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Yeah, most people would have kept
on going. Or if they did

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stop and they saw her approach to
fifteen feet from you, they would have

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stomped on the gas and gotten out
of there. So I'm oppressed the fact

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that you had the gum shit to
stay there and observer her. Well,

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I knew what I was looking at. I at least wanted to look at

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her because I had stopped. I
hadn't stopped to look at her. I

408
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had stopped to see what was walking, and I didn't see what was walking.

409
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:56,400
And after about a minute I was
gone. It didn't take her long

410
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,720
to make our her little faces at
me. I wasn't there very long.

411
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,079
Do you think having of this most
recent experience has helped bring you to terms

412
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:08,400
with that first encounter you had with
a ten footer? Yeah? I do

413
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:15,559
think so. I knew that they
were creatures that deserve to exist like we

414
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,839
do, that they have rights,
and they're just one of God's creations.

415
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,440
But after seeing her, I know, you know, that's sealed in my

416
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:27,039
heart that yes, they belong here
too. I think they're flesh and blood.

417
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:32,359
I don't think they're anything spiritual or
you know, or something. I

418
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:33,920
don't know where they came from,
but I don't think they're from a lab.

419
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,200
I don't think their experiments. I
think the government knows what they are

420
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,759
and where they came from. But
I don't think there were anything evil.

421
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:48,039
I really don't. I listened to
and you know, think about all the

422
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,799
different theories, and I just think
they're creatures of the earth, just like

423
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,759
me. She's just another girl when
you think about it. That ten footer

424
00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,920
you saw so many years ago and
her included. Either one of those two

425
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:05,880
ever tried to attack you. So
at least we know those two weren't evil

426
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,839
to the core and prone to trying
to rip your head off at the first

427
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,359
opportunity, because if that's what they
were all about, they would have tried

428
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,599
to do that. But they didn't. Well, you know the one that

429
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,720
was marching around down in the bottoms
when I saw him, the ten footer.

430
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:22,279
Of course, I was a girl. I was sixteen seventeen, so

431
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,839
I can't remember. But there weren't
stories going around about cattle or any of

432
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,039
that down there. You know,
if I had heard those kind of stories,

433
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:34,599
then I probably would think differently about
him. But he wasn't going around

434
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:38,000
causing havoc. There were rumors about
him, but they were saying he was

435
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:43,319
Satan marching around down there, but
he wasn't doing anything or his clan.

436
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,640
They weren't tearing anything up. They
were just there, But why do they

437
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,039
need to attack when they're right there? They were right down there along the

438
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,839
river, and there's deer everywhere,
so they don't need to attack the cattle.

439
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:59,559
And there's no stories going around up
and here either. I mean,

440
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:04,680
we've got farmers all over and there's
nothing going on here either that at least

441
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,160
not that they're talking about in the
news. Oh I believe it. Yeah,

442
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,519
I don't doubt that at all.
Now might sound counterintuitive to you,

443
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,440
Kim, but if i'd have an
encounter with a dog man, I'd much

444
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:20,000
rather have an encounter with a ten
footer than a six footer. And I'll

445
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,680
tell you why. They're mature,
that's right, the maturity. They don't

446
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,680
want any trouble or any problems.
They're not out to cause any issues.

447
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,319
They just want to do what they
need to do and move on. Is

448
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:37,680
that why she marched up to me
and made faces at me? Yeah?

449
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,480
More than likely that was a function
of being immature. So yeah, I

450
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,240
think you hit the knail on the
head. But then again, you know

451
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,839
she was a female also, that
does make her less likely to cause trouble

452
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,759
than a male would. A juvenile
male would, so, in my opinion,

453
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,279
if you have to have an encounter
with a juvenile, it's definitely better

454
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:01,359
to have an encounter with a dog
woman than a dog man. So you

455
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,400
got lucky. How about that?
I do consider it lucky. I think

456
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,239
it was a privilege. I do. That's how I look at it.

457
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,880
I don't care what anybody else thinks. You know, I haven't told my

458
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,639
mother yet, but I'm going to. I haven't got around to telling her.

459
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:20,400
Oh, you haven't told her yet. No. I go out there

460
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,800
like three times a week, and
I haven't told her yet. No,

461
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:28,800
but I will. I just haven't
told her. Hmm, how do you

462
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:36,119
think she's going to respond? She'd
probably just look at me. I believe

463
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,480
it. Yeah, I don't doubt
that. When you saw her for the

464
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:47,719
first time, Kim, how is
she holding her ears? Well, when

465
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,920
the whole time I was looking at
her, her little ears were, you

466
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,480
know, moving around. She was
moving them. I don't know, they

467
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,440
weren't in any position, because they
kept moving. She'd turn them towards me,

468
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,440
and then she'd turn them away.
That's what made me think there was

469
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,880
another one, because she would turn
them away like she was listening for something

470
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:15,239
in a different direction. And that's
what really made me think that there was

471
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,239
another one close, because it's like
she was listening for them. She would

472
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840
turn towards me, and I wasn't
saying or making any noises, just my

473
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,199
car sitting there running and it's not
loud. You're probably right about that.

474
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,360
It probably wasn't not the dog man
off there in the bushes or in the

475
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,880
woods, monitoring the situation that she
was looking at. So as good you

476
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:42,440
realize that. Did you notice anything
interesting as far as interesting features about her

477
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:50,360
ears, Well, they're not furry. They're not furry. I mean,

478
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,440
if they do have furrow on them, it's a short fuzz. But she

479
00:35:52,519 --> 00:36:00,559
had these little fuzzy things at the
tops of them, little hairs picking up

480
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:07,000
at the tips, you know,
little fluffs, toughs, toughs toughs on

481
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,639
her ears. Did her ears resemble
cropped Doberman ears or did they look like

482
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:20,360
normal ears? Well, no,
because normal ears would be what I would

483
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:25,119
see on my dogs. They're just
perfect little triangles. These were more elongated

484
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,920
up to a point, so I
would say the Doberman thing, but they

485
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,880
were much cuter than Doberman ears.
Sounds like you were taken by her.

486
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,199
She must have been someone else.
No, she was just so. She

487
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,199
was just beautiful. I am taken
by her. I don't know how you

488
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,519
could be so enthralled and so afraid
of something at the same time, but

489
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,199
I am. I know you could
be. No, that makes sense.

490
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,119
You're looking at a dog woman that's
not supposed to be in existence, but

491
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,039
bam, there she is. So
it does make sense. You mentioned that

492
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:04,639
she stood tall in the early stages
of the encounter. Do you think she

493
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,920
might have been trying to make herself
seem more imposing by doing that? Possibility

494
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,119
because the first her first reaction was
trying to go down on all fours because

495
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:17,280
I saw her shrinking, And then
all of a sudden she changed her mind

496
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,280
and just popped right up there as
tall as she could be. That would

497
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,039
make good sense. When she did
stand up tall like that, was she

498
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:30,400
kind of wobbly and unstable or was
she pretty? Said? No, No,

499
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:35,840
she was very stable. She didn't
wobble around it ever. I see

500
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,079
you told us about her whipping it
around. But did you ever see her

501
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:45,000
put her tail between her legs?
No, dogmen do that sometimes. I'm

502
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,760
not sure if they do that as
some kind of a threat display or what,

503
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:53,599
But sometimes they do that. If
you look at dog behavior, they

504
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:59,679
don't do that to be bold.
They do that to be That's a fear

505
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,960
movement by a dog, to put
their tail between their legs, you know,

506
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,440
the old saying, quit the tail
between your legs and run. Oh

507
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,800
of course. But the reason why
I didn't go in that direction is we

508
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,280
don't have any idea how much of
what we know about dogs crosses over to

509
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,119
them. So w that's right,
but we don't know for sure. But

510
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,840
I'm just saying me as a greenie
wouldn't take it that way. If she

511
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,159
put her tail between her legs.
I wouldn't have taken it as a bold

512
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,280
thing. It would have. I
would have taken it as timidity or fear.

513
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:36,480
No, it wasn't. She she
was flipping it around behind her as

514
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:38,239
you told us about that. I
keep trying to picture that. I bet

515
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:45,320
she was a sassy little thing.
She was. The whole demeanor was just

516
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,800
almost comical. I didn't, you
know, I want to be respectful to

517
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,000
her, but it was comical.
She was almost funny, you know,

518
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:58,159
her her reactions and her little tail
was flipping around, and I just thought

519
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:01,559
a little miss sassy pants so where's
your I gotta go? Well, maybe

520
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:06,960
you don't want to know where daddy
is. No, I didn't. He

521
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:12,039
was probably closer than I would care
to know he might have been. Now

522
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,079
you know she wasn't by herself.
Yeah, I've got serious doubts that she

523
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,599
was. I'll bet you're right she
wasn't. I wouldn't even know that she

524
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,760
wasn't by herself. Would I would
waste your money on that if there was

525
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,960
any way to find out she was
not by herself. There was no way

526
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,559
they're going to let her out to
just just bop around in the woods like

527
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:34,400
that. No, that's not even
their you know, their normal behavior.

528
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,280
Yeah, sassy little thing like that. I'll bet you're right. I sure

529
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,280
wish I would have been there to
see her do all these things that you

530
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,159
told us about her doing. That
would have been priceless. It is priceless.

531
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:51,840
At that point in time, I
wouldn't even have known where my phone

532
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,559
was, and there was no way
I was gonna take my eyes off of

533
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:58,880
her for fear Daddy was somewhere.
My fear is not of her, it's

534
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,920
of her Daddy. Well, if
you would have had a notion to plot

535
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,599
that phone I'm just glad you never
tried to do that anyway, because this

536
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,079
way you're able to soak up the
moment and you didn't miss a thing.

537
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,239
You soaked it all in. Yeah, but the only photograph of it's in

538
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,400
my head. Well, there's nothing
wrong with that. That's good. That's

539
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,400
a good thing. I mean,
you soaked in the experience. And yeah,

540
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,559
you're never going to forget that.
And if you pulled out your phone,

541
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,360
who knows what the quality of the
picture would have been. And people

542
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,760
probably wouldn't have believed you anyway.
So at least you made the most of

543
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,880
the experience. Considering how easily she
could have remained hidden from you. Do

544
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,920
you have any theories and why she
revealed herself like she did, Well,

545
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,320
she was prancing through the woods from
the sound of her front steps, because

546
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,039
you know, prancing along through the
woods. I think she was just out

547
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:55,920
to find something onnor to do.
And I came along looking for trouble in

548
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,679
a way, and here comes Kim, Yeah, looking for when here comes

549
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,519
Kim. That's about the way it
goes in my life anyway. No,

550
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:08,760
I can relate. Did her movement
seem to be smoother than the ten footers

551
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:16,599
movements. No, it's like he
was Okay, something that's soft and hasn't

552
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:22,559
quite dried yet, that's still pliable. He seemed like he had been well

553
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:27,360
dried for a long time, the
way he was just so in control of

554
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,239
his body. She wasn't ungraceful or
anything. She just was more like a

555
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:38,960
kid. No, I'll explain it. No, that makes sense. I

556
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,840
think he did a great job of
explaining it. He told us about her

557
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,000
height, But what about her weight? If you had to guess, how

558
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:52,679
much do you think she weighed?
Oh, maybe maybe one hundred and twenty

559
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:59,239
pounds? Well? Small, Yeah, she was tiny. I mean I

560
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:05,119
can't say enough. She was not
grown. She was budding, but she

561
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,960
was far from grown. And her
other littermates might have been somewhere in the

562
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,639
area too. Wouldn't have that been
something? Yes, it would have been

563
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,039
more fun than you would have been
able to handle. Possibly, Oh I've

564
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:21,960
been long gone. Yeah, I'll
bet you can't say. I'll blame you

565
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:27,000
now if I remember correctly. Did
you say that she had four memories?

566
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,840
Yes, I counted four. I
don't know if she had a few more

567
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,719
on her lower down, but two
four, No, I think it was

568
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,400
four. Yeah, she had four. How would you describe them? Can

569
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:47,239
you tell us anything more about her
memory glens? Yes, let me try

570
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,400
to think they were definitive, but
they weren't that big, but they still

571
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,559
were. You could see that she
had little breasts. Everything on her was

572
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:01,840
so little, and like you said, she was just blossoming. She was

573
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:07,400
just starting to fill out, right, she was just starting to Probably she

574
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,400
was probably just realizing she was even
a girl. Maybe that's what was wrong

575
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:16,159
with her. But yeah, she
was just starting to blossom. Yeah,

576
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:21,960
now here's something not all that clear
on. You said she had nails,

577
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,440
but did it look like one inch
fingernails or claws? They weren't sick.

578
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,079
And I don't know if she had
nails on her feet or not. I

579
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:37,360
saw her feet, but they were
in the leaves, so I couldn't see

580
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,760
that the ends of her toes,
but her fingers, her hands, she

581
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,000
had nails, but they weren't thick
at least not I mean not yet.

582
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:50,440
I'm sure they'll get that way,
but they weren't thick. They weren't like

583
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:53,880
paper thin either, but they weren't
that thick, heavy, long, you

584
00:43:53,880 --> 00:44:00,320
know, dagger looking nail. They
weren't all that long, but did looked

585
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,079
to be sharp? Yeah? They
were sharp. Yeah, I wouldn't want

586
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:09,159
to shake hands with her. No, that makes two of us. What

587
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:16,719
color were they though? Dark?
Gray or black? I see you told

588
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,920
us about her muzzle. What color
was a tip of her nose? Though

589
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,800
white? You mean her nose nose? Her nose was black, but she

590
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,360
had some white on her muzzle.
She sure must have been something to see.

591
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:35,440
Wow, it's a lot to take
in. Well, Kim, it's

592
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,800
about time for us to get out
of here. But before we do,

593
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,320
do you have any clothes in comments
you'd like to share? Probably the same

594
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,920
as I said before. They just
have the right to live, and I

595
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,960
can't see hunting them down for any
reason, scientific or otherwise. But I

596
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,559
feel that way about the Sasquatch and
Bigfoot and all those two. I think

597
00:44:55,559 --> 00:45:00,519
they just need to be left alone. And watch where you dry been in

598
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:05,159
Kansas along the side roads, I'd
say, so you've had two encounters with

599
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,800
them doing that. So yeah,
I'm back roads kind of makes me,

600
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:15,159
you know, like backroads, No, I get it. Yeah, I'd

601
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,719
love to drive back roads too,
way out in the country. But yeah,

602
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,320
you've had a bad go of it, so I can understand why you'd

603
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,119
be kind of reluctant to do that. Now. Well, Kim, I

604
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:28,719
can't thank you enough for coming back
on and updating us on this most recent

605
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,840
experience. I really appreciate it.
Well, thank you for having me.

606
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,320
It was delight. Oh you know
you're welcome. It's been a great time.

607
00:45:37,960 --> 00:46:02,280
Well, thanks again so much,
and have a great night. I wis