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Get some facts and come back and
Seebee. Get some facts and come back

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and Seebee. Don't fill out salaries
or other things. Get some facts and

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come back and Seebee. You can't
handle the true now told our players you

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need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats

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in here. Looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my

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extra bands on, I got my
other shoes. Be a doll. We

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don't need no meals. We don't
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Are not a detain Why you're not
that detained? We weren't good.

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There's no sense of asking me things
about the game. I'm telling you.

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We laid an egg. So I'm
not gonna break it down for you.

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He sucks. He sucked. He
laid an egg. That's all I have

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to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break it down for

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you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. We have to

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figure it out and we will.
Jo Dad Tiger's leaden egg yesterday at Kamerica

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Park, coming home after getting swept
by Kansas City losing nine to one.

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Welcome in to the eight o'clock hour. Dennis Fithian in for Matt Shepherd on

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Xies and Bros. On the Michigan
Sports Network. Yeah, nine to one,

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Tigers have lost five in a row. Coming up in a half hour,

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we'll talk some Tigers with Tom Gage, the long time Tiger beat writer.

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Right now we're talking about the alliance. Is it super Bowl or bust?

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Dan Campbell, Lions head coach,
answered that question, also got the

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hype train going for Jamison Williams,
calling him the most improved player, saying

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he's a man on the mission.
He's a man on a mission. How

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much are you counting on Jamison Williams? What do you expect for him?

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And Tho As a couple of questions
that we have out there, you're just

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waking up tuning in Celtics beat the
Pacers, Oilers in double overtime over the

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Stars down in Big d. Those
are your finals in basketball and hockey and

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of course baseball. I said,
would it be something that the Lions would

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think about doing? Going all in
for t Higgins, the outstanding wide receiver

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for Cincinnati, who's doesn't want to
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trying to get delt. He wants
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get Delt and you think about the
Lions and the position that they're in,

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and could you add a T.
Higgins And the first thing you think,

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you know, you get a big
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and you already got him on our
Saint Brown and you're looking over there

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and you got left Porta and and
everything that you know, and then we're

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just talking about Jamison Williams, Like, wow, how about T Higgins?

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This could be the best offense in
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bring T. Higgins in now,
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league. Anyways, if Williams even
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has been bestowed on him in the
last twenty four hours. The reason I

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here I bring it up to kind
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the bunch of cold water on to
bring in a T. Higgins one.

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If the Lions were going to make
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so to speak, it would be
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If you follow Brad Home so far, at least through now this upcoming being

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his fourth year, there's no track
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in. You know, he has
not gone after that big name in free

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agency. Maybe you think Kevin Zeitler, the offensive guard from the Ravens at

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the Lions brought in to fill in
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know, a big name for you, all right, a DJ reader on

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the defensive side at defensive tackle.
But you know, trading for Carlton Davis

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or you know, signing Marcus Davenport, you know those aren't going all in

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moves. So a little bit of
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and then wrong general manager think about
the big swing and going all in.

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But maybe you know he's got a
trade. You know, you say all

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of this, but then Holmes is
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could see him going completely against what
he's done and you know, even bolstering

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the offensive side if the deal was
right, because the Lions are in that

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position where it is a piece or
two, a player or two where you

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were talking about the possibility of this
team winning a Super Bowl. He knows

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that, I know that you know
that the movie's going to make what's it

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going to be? And honest,
he just got to continue this is that's

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just kind of hang in there,
hang around. This is not We're not

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ready to push all of our chips
in. Yeah, we're Yeah, we

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got some stacks that were firing once
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but not all in. Let's go
to the phones. Where are we

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going, Ben? Yeah, we
got Freddy on the line. Oh,

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Freddy, Freddy, how are you? Good morning? Dennis? How are

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you Blady? I'm doing good,
Freddie. I hope you have a an

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enjoyable Memorial weekend you as well.
But we gotta get you back on the

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radio full time. You're you're much
You're much needed. I'll tell you that.

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So now, people that are answering
this question super Bowl or busts are

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not answering it with emotions right now
because the football season's not here. They're

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not watching the games. You're fooling
yourself if you're saying it's not super Bowl

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or bust this team doesn't win a
super Bowl in the next I'm not gonna

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say five ten years. Let's forget
about that the next two years. If

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this team doesn't win a Super Bowl
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Okay, because the Rams went to
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it was a bust for them and
what they do. They ship them to

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the town and they brought another quarterback
to win the Super Bowl. So this

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team, if they don't get to
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care what anybody says. Half of
the half of this fan base is gonna

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turn it on Jared Golf because they
the Golf is a likable guy, good

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dude, you know the Jared Golf
chants and all that stuff. But he'll

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be the number one target if he
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Absolutely, there's no doubt about it. But that's with the money he's

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gotten. And it's super Bowl or
boss. This team has never won a

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super Bowl. It's never been to
a super Bowl. They smelled it last

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year and they blew it the second
half. They absolutely blew it. And

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and I just think people if they
say, well, it's you know,

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we don't if we don't get to
the super Bowl, it's okay. You're

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not dealing with the emotions right now. You're not watching the games. Once

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the game starts, your emotions are
going to be completely different. Well,

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you're right about that, Freddie.
If we could fast forward to the divisional

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round right now and talked a little
bit about it earlier, and you know,

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the Lions lose by one point to
let's say the Eagles. What you're

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saying is exactly true. For twenty
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going to be out of their mind
and the windows slamming shot and everything else.

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But you get a little further back, and you do if you if

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you don't have the kind of team
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back and they still have a window. I mean, that's going to be

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the thing that you have to remember, sure, or the emotion. You

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know, there were people last year
after they completely melted down, that like,

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this is back to square one,
this is their one chance. This

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is the same old alliance. But
people even that thought that, after a

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week or two looked at this and
said, well, you know, this

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is this team has all of the
components to come back and be in the

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same position next year. And you
know, we don't know because there's a

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lot of factors. And sometimes the
window looks wide open and then it's slam

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shut so fast, and you know, so there is that danger. But

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you know, and you even said
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it. If they don't win in
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we're not that far apart. I
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or bust, but you know it
could it could slam shot. I go

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back to the conversation we had yesterday. I said to you, the two

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thousand and six oh seven Tigers,
right, I always look at Jim Leland

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and Dan Campbell is the same person. They know how to manipulate the media.

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They know how to talk to the
media and motivate their players. That's

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what they do that makes that's what
makes them great. Now, the those

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six Tigers, they blew it.
They had chanced those These chances don't come

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along in life, not just sports. In life, when it comes around,

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you gotta grab it because you're never
guaranteed. And the those six Tigers

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are proof of that. And I'm
not saying this team is, but even

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Dan Campbell said at the end of
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be easy, boys. And when
you get that chance, you gotta grab

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it. And if you don't,
it's gonna take a long while before it

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comes along. So go get that
super Bowl. Just shut everybody up,

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because this town deserves it. I
like your Tiger analogy, you know,

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thanks Freddie, You know, two
thousand and seven it was a collapse,

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and then remember there was the tie
breaker game with the Twins. That felt

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like it was all over. But
what did they do? They made some

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key moves. They had a core
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But then they got Cabrera and then
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in twenty eleven, in twenty twelve, they made it to the World Series

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in twenty twelve. They were back. They were right there. They should

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have I can't say they should have
won it. They were favorite. I

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thought that they were gonna win.
But the point is is that it wasn't

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over for them. The Tigers did
have that window. It wasn't two thousand

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and seven wasn't a World Series or
bust for the Tigers. A little bit

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of it if you can squeeze it
in and we're comparing baseball to football,

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as much as that's hard to do, I think that that's the part that

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I look to spin it a little
bit forward. The Tigers did have other

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opportunities. Good job. Freddie will
continue on talking about the the Lions and

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the Super Bowl and their most outstanding
player, their most improved player, and

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the player that is on a mission. According to Dan Campbell, Jamison Williams

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Shephard this morning the Michigan Sports Network.

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We're taking your calls, but talking
about the Lions a lot. It's one

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of those days where you have the
Lions. Yesterday, Dan Campbell, their

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head coach, was asked if it's
Super Bowl or bust at OTA's in a

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news conference there and he said he
doesn't see buss, you see super Bowl.

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And then he was like ll Cooljay
and that beer commercial busted through the

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apartment in that train Dan Campbell when
he came in and said, I have

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our most improved player, this Jamison
Williams. And then he hit the horn

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and everyone who went crazy when he
said he's a man on a mission.

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Now, you know, what are
your expectations for Jamison Williams. And if

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you just looked at the numbers or
his first two years, now he was

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hurt and then he was suspended,
and it's not good for a wide receiver

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that was taken in the top fifteen
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But you do have to put those
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at the negative side, there's you
know, he has been more times than

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not considered a bust or or been
on a bust trajectory than he has any

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kind of you know, superstar.
But you know the thing is, you

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know he doesn't have to be a
superstar. You pick a guy in the

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first round with the idea that,
yeah, he's going to be a superstar.

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But what we have seen are big
drops in big spots. But we

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have also seen flashes of a brilliance
and so much so for me and I

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don't even remember the game, I've
referenced it earlier. It was an end

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around where he scored a touchdown and
on like the five yard line. He

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do he didn't need to, but
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jumped from the fifteen yard line and
it looked like he jumped like fifteen feet

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in the air. It was one
of those moments, one of the things

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you love about sports. Sometimes you're
watching it just like what did I just

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see? I'm watching just some incredible
talent. So he's got that and he

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is in the perfect position, you
know who reminds me of And take your

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calls. See we're gonna talk some
tigers coming up in just over ten minutes.

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Eight six six eight three eight forty
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prompt you can get in that way. He reminds me, I'm thinking of

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Rashid Wallace, the former Piston.
They go to work Piston who won a

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championship. If I went for Rashid
Wallace, they wouldn't have won the championship.

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But if what for Rashid Wallace,
they you know, they could have

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won two champions Himpsfielder Garden, Robert
Rory. But you know that's not what

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I'm here to talk about. But
Rashid when he was out with the jail

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Blazers, now it is loud mouth
getting thrown out, smoked his way off.

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You know, he suspend all of
these things, ejections left and right.

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He just wasn't that guy to lead
you to where you wanted. The

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awesome player, great talent, all
over those kind of things, but just

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it just wasn't He couldn't be that
guy. And he got into the Pistons

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where you know who could be that
guy, mister big shot Ben Wallace could

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be that guy, and he fit
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didn't have to be the leader,
he didn't have to be the guy down

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of the post. He didn't.
He just he was able just to do

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all of the things that he could
do. He actually could go down to

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the post. He was great on
defense. You know, you he could

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knock down for he was an incredible
player, and it just it brought out

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all of the best things and that's
the position that Jamison Williams in. I'm

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sure somebody had to tell them and
they look at you are in just an

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incredible spot. You got Laportie,
you got Brown, you got everything that

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with his offense and you can put
them over the top. I'm looking on

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Twitter and it's been a good dwo
days on Twitter. Terry has been involved

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on Twitter. And here I have
a tweeked from FTP who was talking about

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Jamison Williams and he says, Teddy
Bridgewater was brought in to mentor this kid.

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It's talking about Jamison Williams. He
said so at his presser and Teddy

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and Jamo himself off did a wonderful
job turning around the first two years of

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off the field stuff. Kudos to
both. Yeah, old Teddy two gloves.

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I he didn't do much on the
field, but the off the field

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stuff. Last week I saw him
throwing as is the high school coach.

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Now it's throwing balls high school kids. Not a surprise from from Teddy two

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Gloves. Like to see that and
if is a part of it just being

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able to turn around the off the
field stuff, I mean, the off

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the field stuff. What are we
talking about here? We're talking about he

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got hurt. I like, so
I'm not holding that against him. The

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suspension. Yeah, you got to
be better than that. You're the other

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players. You know, he could
have been out of here if and you

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know, so if that's a strike
or two strikes, whatever it was,

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I'm not getting on him because he
likes to eat at McDonald's or go down

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to a Coney Island in the city, which you know, some people it

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seemed like they were you know,
or had something needed something to talk about

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there. But give me that guy
feeling good about himself and his life on

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the football field with a ball in
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it, hand it off to him. Because he's that kind of special talent.

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I don't want to go overboard.
But if we're lining up talent wise,

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the hundred greatest receivers in NFL history, just talent, Jamison Williams is

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going to be up close to the
front of that line. Now. I

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know he's you know, he has
not shown very much production on the field.

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Twenty four catches a couple of TVs
last year, you know, just

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over three hundred yards. And you
know what, he's also a bust,

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you know, what about talent playmaking. You know that's where it's at when

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it comes down to JMO. All
right, I wanted to give this to

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you on this Memorial weekend. If
you're you know, you're not gonna watch

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basketball, you're not gonna watch hockey, you might want to on a Memorial

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weekend take in a war movie and
just for your viewing pleasure. I have

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three of them for you that are
available if you have Netflix and if you

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have not watched any of these.
I liked all three. Number one on

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the list. It's called The Forgotten
Battle. Again. These are all on

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Netflix. This is one of the
best war movies I have seen in the

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last ten years. It is the
marshes of World War Two and the Netherlands.

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I give it a total thumbs up. All Quiet on the Western Front

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is also there on Netflix. It
got cashed in on some awards. It's

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very gory, so you have you
know, like you it's a war movie,

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but very gory but good. And
then Narvik also gets the nod for

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me as a thumbs up, one
that I wouldn't actually think, but I'm

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pleasantly surprised and I gave that a
thumbs up. So there are three war

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movies right there on Netflix. Check
all those three out. I think you'd

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like all three of those. Little
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don't have to. Maybe next time
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up straight ahead, we'll talk some
Tigers with Tom Gage, the longtime beat

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gets to base. Then, after
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Hinch said, Keith earned that start
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ahead a single against two lefty relievers. More than anything, he showed he

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can hang in against tough lefties.
He says facing a hard throwing lefty actually

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helps him because it forces him to
really focus on his hitting keys making better

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across the state of Michigan on the
Michigan Sports Network. Dennis fit the in

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in for Matt Shepherd on X's and
Bros. Hey, you can make all

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the jokes you want about the power
outage last night at Comerica Park, but

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there was a power outage in the
booth and on the score for the Tigers,

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they could beat nine to one.
You probably know that by now,

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as well as them losing their fifth
game in a row. But they got

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a lot of ball games to play. That's what you can say if you're

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looking for that silver lining. We're
ready to there's another silver lining as we're

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ready to talk some Tigers baseball with
a long time Tigers a beat writer,

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Tom Gage, who joins us on
the line on Xes and Bros. Live

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this morning. Tom, How are
you? How are you? Oh?

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I'm doing great, you know,
Tom. The only thing that would have

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been more perfect at talking with you
on the radio if it would have been

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right at game forty, but having
you around game forty. It was game

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fifty yesterday, as you know.
But you know it's been forty years as

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the Tigers, well, the World
Series and that that forty you know that

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that game start thirty five and five
and all that, which we'll get to,

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but you know, I wanted to
start you out with that forty game,

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Marcus is it's in Tiger's lore that
Sparky said that you can't judge a

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team after forty. Did he actually
say that or is he just kicking the

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can down the road to you guys. No, Dennis, he actually said

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that. And with Sparky, he
usually didn't say things just once. He

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said them many times. So I
think he probably said it every year that

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he was the manager. But he
believed in forty, I you know,

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and that's probably because he didn't believe
in thirty. It was one month was

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just too fast to judge a team. So forty is a good measure,

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I think, in my opinion,
it's still a little short of being able

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to judge a team. I think
where the Tigers are right now at fifty

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games is a better measure because you
show your true colors. By fifty you've

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had some ups, you've had some
downs, and now you're begin to settle

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in. I hope the Tigers aren't
beginning to settle in because they're not playing

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well. But yeah, you know, I'm a little bit worried about that

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offense, as people should be.
They just don't score enough runs to support

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their pitching, as you know.
But you know, Sparky, Parky did

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believe in forty games, and he
said so often. You know, what

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happens to me every year is that
there's a team that gets off to an

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incredible start, and this year it's
the Phillies and they're thirty seven and fourteen

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right now. They you know,
they've won six in a row, they're

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nine and one of their last ten. But then you tell people like,

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yeah, it's incredible, but you
know, thirty five and five, you

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know that was incredible. We're gonna
get a little bit more of that.

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You know. I was Jim Leland
back in two thousand and six, as

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you know, I don't remember what
the game mark was. I think they

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had lost to Cleveland and they were
getting ready to fly out to the West

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Coast, and he tore into his
team and the postgame media session he wasn't

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gonna stand for this, and they
got a lot of criticism right off the

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bat, like this guy's just coming
in and he's he's, you know,

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putting his team on blast that quickly. I say that, Tom, because

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we had a caller earlier who said
it was time to see some emotion from

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aj Hitch, like he wanted a
rant, he wanted on the turnover the

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table spread or something. Do you
think that that could be in the offing

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here for for AJ Hinch, some
kind of outburst or something. Well,

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Dennis, I think it should be
in the Austin, but I'm not sure

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it is in the Austin because I
don't know Aj that well. I covered

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him a little bit as a player, but I haven't covered him as a

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manager. But he seems very methodical
and very very He keeps his emotion pretty

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contained. I understand he got upset
the other day when somebody said the Tigers

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hadn't been competitive in the game.
And I think that's too bad because he

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limits you know, he limits the
media access to his coaches. And if

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you're the only part of the coaching
staff and managing staff that you allow the

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media to have access to, I
think you need to show up and and

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and not get and not get upset
at the questioning. I don't think the

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I know the big writers of the
Tigers now, I know them well,

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and you know they're professional. They're
not gotcha They're not a crew that asks

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a lot of gotcha questions. So
I think media, I think a J.

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Hinch has it has a nice situation
here in Detroit with the media.

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Yeah, well, I know some
of those guys of the radio actually are

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got kind of guys, probably the
one that threw that question at him.

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So is there if you're looking for
a silver lining, if for the rest

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of this year or just moving forward
for the Tigers, what would you point

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to you? You've seen so many, you know, the seasons and then

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transitions and new general managers. And
obviously the Tigers have Scott Harris who's just

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in his second full season. He's
a young guy with thirty six thirty seven

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years old, but they've got a
low payroll. Is there what would you

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point to as a silver lining ahead
for this team? Well, I do

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think that they've developed some solid players
within the lineup. I think Carpenter is

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proving to be a good, solid
hitter, and you know, they've done

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a good job in picking up some
of the pieces to fill in people like

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Gabanya's and Urshela, and those are
very important players that pick up a Brushel

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was I think quite important in Flaherty. Uh. You know, the pitching

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staff has been to me, the
starting rotation has been outstanding with Clarity and

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and Olsen and they but I imagine
they're getting a little bit impatient right now

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because they don't get any runs to
work with. You know, schoobl Is

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school is going to be a star, and I think you could see that

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a couple of years ago. He
just has the stuff to win. And

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but you know, I've seen flaerty
uh pitching person a couple of times.

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I know, I know he had
problems a little while a while ago,

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not this year, but in the
past. But he's throwing very well and

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I'm very impressed with him. So
I think they're I think there are good

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building blocks for the Tigers. They
just don't have the core of that offense.

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And the guys that are letting them
down, of course, are the

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young players Tork Wilson and Riley Green. Uh. You know, everybody likes

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the praise, right Riley and Duvis
deservedly so, because he has a lot

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of rod talent. Right now,
he's not playing very well. Yeah,

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is that right? We got Tom
Gage with us for a few more minutes.

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Tom, I want to go back. You know, you've written a

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few books. You've got your fourth
out right now, or it's going to

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be out the Enchanted season. You
wrote this with Lance Parrish about the nineteen

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eighty four team. I've already referenced
them a few times. Tell me a

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little bit about you know, this
this particular book and working with Lance.

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What was it like. No,
I knew Lance very well as a player.

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I also knew that he was rather
contained with his comments and his emotion.

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And when the publisher suggested this book
for the two for the fortieth anniversary,

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I wasn't sure how how much I
was going to be able to get

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out of him, but it was. It turned out to be a true

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delight working with Lance because he tried
so hard to remember the bits and pieces

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and you know, the major things
and even some of the minor components of

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that season. So we would have
a couple of conversations each week and as

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we want through the different chapters.
And again, I really enjoyed working with

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Allance. He's a quality individual.
And I want to stress again, Dennis,

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he tried very hard to remember what
nineteen eighty four was like and also

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the other years of his career.
You know, might still go with Ben.

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Excuse me, what was that?
No, I didn't hear you.

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Oh yeah, I cut out for
a second. Absolutely, We're good.

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It was just right there at the
end of you talking about Lance. That's

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good. You know for my generation. I was in high school, you

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know, so they bless you boys. I had them. But you know,

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growing up with every one of my
uncles talking about the sixty eight team,

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you know, I knew everything like
that wasn't a chant of team.

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I knew all of it. And
then it seemed like I was doing the

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same thing with eighty four. And
the Tigers had their shot obviously in six

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and what twenty thirteen, you know, getting to the World Series. It

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would have been great obviously if they
would have been able to you know,

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capture another one. But you do
go back and now it's just, you

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know, to reminisce about eighty four
almost each and every player, just how

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this thing was put together. But
Tom, take me back to the forty

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gay mark. Are you sitting there
and you're thinking, there's no way that

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this team. Now we were talking
about the Lions this morning about is a

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championship or bust? When you got
to the point where it was the forty

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gay mark, was it a realization
that this team is going to win the

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World Series? There is this going
to be a major disappointment. Well,

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when when he got to the forty
game mark, and of course that was

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in Seattle and they lost the you
know, got swept to this series.

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Here, I remember the team being
just they weren't basking in the glory of

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being thirty five and five. I
mean, Sparky had that eye opening conversation.

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The night before that, the last
game in Anaheim before they went to

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Seattle. Sparky was at the team
hotel and a guy from Dayton came up

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to him and said, Sparky Anderson, boy, I'm from Dayton and I

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remember your big red machine teams.
By the way, what are you doing

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now? And Sparky said, here
I was, I had the hottest team

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in the major leagues. And a
guy who supposedly was a fan of mine

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comes up and asks me what am
I doing now? And he said it

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was a you know, it just
put me in my place, and it

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reminded me that, you know,
we were thirty four and five at the

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time, but they really hadn't accomplished
anything. So Spokey had the mindset at

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thirty five and five that you better
not let any grass grow under your feet.

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You had to keep pressing, and
the Tigers did for throughout the summer

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I didn't play as well as they
began the season. Toronto was on their

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heels. They had to play hard
and it wasn't really until September that they

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put it away. But the summer
was a great test for them and that's

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where they proved the quality of the
team. Oh and it came to Smarky

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and I was thinking about eighty four. I think, if you know,

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there's so many different things to talk
about, but the audio of the World

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Series when they had Goose guys and
uh it was it Dick Williams who went

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out to the mound and they're having
a conversation, and then you know,

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they showed Sparky and they got young
Gibby, who's you know, he's the

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cage lion over there and he knew
how to you know, poke and prod

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them and everything. And they've got
the audio. You know, they don't

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want to walk you. And then
of course he hits the home run,

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which is you know, so famous
and it was so great. I think

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the question here is is that how
come we didn't hear more, whether it

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was even in that World Series or
anywhere. Sparky was omnipresident on TV back

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in the eighties, I mean he
would you felt like you knew him all

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the time. But just that audio
on the field, I'd never heard anything

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else. And but that clip was
so great, you know, from from

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Sparky with with Gibby in the World
Series. Oh it sure was. When

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Gibson had to play betting Sparky ten
dollars that he was going to take out

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he was going to hit one off
of Gossage and Sparky not believe in it.

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But you know, Sparky was in
his form, he was Sparky Anderson

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in his uh, away from the
uniform, he was George Anderson. So

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he was he was really two people
in one. Uh. He he really

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knew how to turn on the charm
and the personality when he was when he

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was in baseball mode. But when
he was George Anderson, he was just

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really still the kid from South Dakota. And that's what made him so interesting,

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you know that the two the two
people in one. He didn't he

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didn't allow you to call call him
George unless you were his friend or his

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or a relative. I never called
him George. I called him Sparky and

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uh. But I really had great
admiration for him, not just as a

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manager, but as a person,
and you know, he did such great

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things for Detroit with the charity catch
and uh he really wanted to give back

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to the city. So uh,
you know, he was just a very

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memorable individual. A couple more minutes
here with with Tom Gage. I loved

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you know, you've covered it all
though, but it's just as a youngster,

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you'd always remember going to the game, you know here what Sparky would

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come out or I think was did
he have the nickname, uh Captain Hook,

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you know, to get his pitcher. But he would never he always

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made sure that he would not.
He had the superstition of not stepping on

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the baseline. I said, have
been the third baseline there at uh am

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I right at Tiger Stadium, third
base, and I remember it if they

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were losing and the crowd was bullying, and he used to he used to

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stop on the way back to the
dead note and let people get express their

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emotion because he thought they he said, they were paying customers. You know,

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we were sticking up the joint.
They had it, they had the

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right to express their opinion. Tom, let me give you a couple of

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quick hitters. You know you're a
member of the Michigan Sports Hall of Fame.

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I've been to one of those banquets. Those are that's an awesome time.

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But a couple of years ago,
the Baseball Writers award you with the

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with the Spink and you're presented that
at the Cooperstown of the Baseball Hall of

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Fame. That's got to be at
the very top of the list. What's

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it like for you as a long
time baseball scribe to you know, have

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your name there at Cooperstown among all
the greats, oh Dennis. It was

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a thrill of a lifetime because that
was before COVID, so they the Hall

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of Fame observed the would present the
award at Doubleday Field right downtown, so

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you had to have a big crowd
there and the Hall of Famers would sit

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on the uh uh in the chairs
behind you, and it was just I

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mean, you you really, I
mean, you don't become a Hall of

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Famer just because you win the Spink
Award. You're not inducted, but they

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treat you like a Hall of Famer. And again I was it was a

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huge, huge thrill, and I
remember when I was done with my speech

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and uh, you know, the
Hall of Famers were congratulating me. And

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one man came across the stage and
I said, oh, is he coming

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over to talk to me? And
he did, and he was. He

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was the man who expressed the most
I think sincere congratulations for the speech I'd

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just given and and uh uh you
know it was Sandy Kofax, and you

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know that was just a great,
great honor. And I you know again

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meeting meeting the Hall of Famers,
uh, and being on their bus and

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and having a breakfast with them.
Uh. There's so many of them that

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are going now. You know,
my good friend l. K Line and

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Jim Bunning and little Brock was especially
great, gracious, and you know I

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missed them all, but it was
really great to know them. Well.

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Tom the great story there with Sandy
Kofax and everything else. We are out

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of time. I want to thank
you. You know, I always treated

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like broadcasters like me. You know, I could have been a long time

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writer, and you're always really gracious
with your time, just like you are

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today. I want to tell everybody
the Enchanted season. I went on my

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phone where I buy my books,
and I saw it right there. I

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could order it up. So I
encourage everybody to do that Tom, thanks

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so much for your time, continued
success. Always great to talk with you.

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Well. Thank you, Dennis,
and I really enjoyed being on your

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show. All right, take care. There is Tom Gage, the long

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time Tiger Beat writer. Talk a
little bit about the current Tigers, and

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of course going back to nineteen eighty
four. I want to thank Ben and

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Zost for turning all the dials,
doing a fabulous job here, everybody else

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for listening, Matt Shepherd for letting
me pitch it. I'll do it again

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in June if he'll have me back. Take care, everybody, Axes and

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