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It's time for coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now here's Nick coffee.
All right, as we get the four

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o'clock hour started here, I have
to confess something I am really really enjoying

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just kind of sitting back and watching
on Twitter Arkansas and Kentucky fans like just

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coming at each other's necks like it's
any You know, anytime there is something

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that Arkansas fans post about Caliperry getting
a player or adding a coach, Kentucky

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fans are quick to jump in the
mansions and let everybody know, oh yeah,

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have fun with that. We'll see
how that works out. Huh.

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We thought the same thing. And
then anytime like Mark Pope does something,

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Arkansas fans and they got a big
army. They're making fun of Kentucky fans

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for being excited about, you know, a coach named Mark Pope, and

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you know the fact that he's landing
three star players within the state, and

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that's now the new level of excitement
for Kentucky. Whenever again, this is

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true, I can tell you firsthand, they would mock anybody for being excited

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about that Calber player. For the
last fifteen years, but obviously you know

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things have changed. I think Kentucky
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but you can do not be a
fan like you're gonna support Mark Pope

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and understand that he's going to be
doing it differently than cal did, and

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you're gonna hope that it all works
out. But I have a question for

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Kentucky fans. There's no way you
knew that the Arkansas fan army online was

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as big as it is and as
ruthless as it is because they're savages man

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like. It's I mean, it's
and it's it's wild to see. I

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always said this whenever Arkansas came up, which was very rarely right. We

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never talked about Arkansas around here.
I mean, why would we, But

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having family in Fetteville, I've been
there a few times in the last five

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years, and it I mean that
state. They mean, what do they

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have other than the Hawks? I
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a I mean they've been a semi
pro team. Like Arkansas is a rare

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state where it's super huge as far
as I mean size, I don't know

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where it is as far as population, but like the biggest Citi's what Little

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Rock and that's not considered like a
huge city, is it. I mean,

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people know what Little Rock, Arkansas
is, but it's certainly not a

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destination spot. And it's you know, it's Little Rock bigger than Lexington probably

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maybe, I don't know. So, Like they are obsessed with the Razorbacks.

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And in football, you know they've
they've they've struggled, right, They've

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not been great, and they've kind
of just I think, probably become a

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little I don't have the word.
They want to be good, right,

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And the best they have they've ever
been, at least in my lifetime,

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was whenever Bobby Petrino was there,
you know, first go around. Now

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he's back as the OC. But
in basketball, I guess this is when

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it would come up. I would
talk about muss like even when Louisville's job

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opened up after Chris Mack, Like
Musk was on top of the world,

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and I remember saying, like,
look, I wish he would come to

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Louisville, but like, he has
a great job. They pay me a

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lot of money. He's succeeding.
They have a humongous fan base. You

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know, they camp out before games, they sell out Bud Walton, which

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is not that much smaller than the
Yump Center, to be honest with you.

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So I've always known that they're a
big fan base, but Kentucky fans

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online are learning it. Like I'm
even Kentucky fans who probably aren't like on

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there to troll, but just like
you know, great get Pope or something,

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or posting some you know, corny
hashtag or picture. I think Arkansas

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I wouldn't guess that they are a
state that is a leader or a pioneer

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in you know, technology, but
I feel like they got some kind of

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set up, some kind of bot
software is something that like they get notified

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anytime a Kentucky fan tweets, because
the Arkansas fans are going, they know

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within seconds they're in there making fun
of Kentucky talking trash and you know,

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I'm sitting back from afar, this
is in my fight. But obviously you

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know Kentucky's Louisville rivals, so you
know, I at times do get some

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joy out of seeing Arkansas fans,
you know, taking shots at them,

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and a lot of it's just you
know, the typical nonsense you see online

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from you know, the toxic wasteland
that is Twitter. But sometimes they're like

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really funny and I'm like, I'm
gonna save that. That's good. I

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could use that one day if Arkansas
is a really good program next year.

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I cannot wait for Cow's return trip
to rap Arena because it is going to

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be I don't even know how to
predict what it's going It's gonna be an

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insane well, like if they meet
in January and Kentucky struggling and Cow's having

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a really good year, Like,
what are Kentucky fans gonna do? Like

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they're gonna I mean, they may
have I I still think that they're going

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to choose to say, hey,
like good for him, but like this

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needed to end, we needed a
fresh start, like and I think that's

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a logical way to look at it. However, it's easy to say that

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now your emotions are going to change
if your team is lousy under Pope.

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And look, if they are lousy
or just underwhelming, it won't mean that

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he's going to be terrible. It's
just part of the process. But I

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don't think a Kentucky fan could with
a straight face tell me that they're not

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going to pay attention at least a
little bit to what Cal's doing more than

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like they typically would Arkansas. I
mean, it's human nature, isn't it.

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This is your absolutely, this was
your man for fourteen years, right,

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something like that. So, I
mean, it would just be I

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think it would be odd. You're
going to tell yourself you don't want to,

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You're going to tell your stuff you
don't care, but you're going to.

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Maybe others will do it more than
you know most, but it's just

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it's normal. And I've already,
like I mean, I heard Matt talking

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about it the other day on a
show. I see it all the time

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I'm on social media. If they'll
go out of their way to say,

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like, I don't care what Kyle's
doing, why are people talking about Cal?

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I don't care what you really?
Really don't you care? You don't

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care so much you're letting us know
what you're talking about it, you know

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what I'm saying. And that's normal, not even mean like this is a

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this is a rare situation where your
coach who is believed by a lot of

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people to be one of the best
in the game. I mean, he

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does have a national championship, a
lot of final fours. He walked away

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and it was good for everybody when
he did it. But now he's he's

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next door in your conference and you're
gonna see him, and he could have

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gone somewhere in the Big Ten or
the ACC and him making moves is always

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going to be newsworthy in this world
of college basketball because that's John Cali Perry.

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Like he's one of the larger than
live figures within the sport. Right

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Whenever he's on top, you know, he's arrogant, and it moves the

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needle. When he stinks and loses
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big talking point because he's Cali Perry. So I mean, I'm not I'm

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not like, I'm not a liar
like some people about the rivalry, you

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know what I mean, Like I
don't even why we play them, I

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don't care. I don't even I
don't care, which maybe some people truly

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see it that way, and if
that's the case, then cool, but

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a lot of people don't because that's
why rivalries, you like, the best

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night for you is if your team
wins and your rival loses, Obviously you're

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gonna care way more about what happens
with your team. That's that's totally normal.

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But I really think that when it
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it comes down to it, like
it'll be one of the fascinating things to

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see, not just for like us
around here. I think it'll be a

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college basketball storyline just to kind of
because that's what's gonna happen this year.

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It won't be lead. Look,
it's not gonna lead the storylines within the

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sport at least I don't think it
will, right. I Mean, you

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got Yukon coming off back to back
titles. You know, if neither team

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is like relevant at the top as
far as like looking like they're gonna be

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a really good team that can make
a tournament run, then it's it's not

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going to be all you hear about. But I think within college hoops it'll

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be you know, these two fan
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Pope in their new spot, like
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So anyways, just thought that was, you know, as I'm scrolling through

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uh Twitter here to see if there's
anything I may have missed during the last

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break, I just you know,
I now find myself not getting engaged.

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I'm not I'm not engaging in anything, right like I'm not like, I'm

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not respond I'm not jumping in and
tweeting or anything like that. But I

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guess I do click on enough of
the tweets and read the responses to where

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my algorithm John on my four you
page is now like just Arkansas and Kentucky

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fans going at each other's next and
you know, it's times pretty interesting to

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zero ninety. I mentioned earlier that
a lot of good buzz here in the

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city of Louisville. Last week we
had Kentucky Derby one fifty. Now we've

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got the PGA event coming up,
Tiger Woods is already in town, and

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you know, it's just not I
don't I can't remember a scenario where we've

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had, you know, three weeks
essentially where it just feels like there's a

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lot more eyeballs on us than we
typically get. And let's be real,

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there's at times in recent years been
a lot of attention on Louisville for like

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not good reason. So I enjoy
it whenever. You know, we've got

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these big events and the derbies every
year. But the PGA, it's happened

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before a few times, I believe, But good vibes, no doubt.

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in, Mike, Mike, how
are you, sir? Doing well?

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Man? Doing well? I think
Kentucky fans have always known Arkansas had a

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great fan base in Pior volume wise, because in the nineties when Patino was

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there, it was just crazy the
games and the SEC tournament. So so

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I think they always knew they were
there. Uh. You know the thing

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with cal it's like, even if
he wins the national championship, Yeah,

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it's going to be you know,
it's gonna hurt and we're gonna be like,

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you know, but it wasn't gonna
happen at Kentucky. He wasn't going

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to change. He was still going
to be the guy I mean and yes,

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just like Louisville, side eyes Kentucky. You see what's going on in

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Kentucky. Side eyes louis to see
what they're doing. Kentucky's doing the same

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thing with Arkansas, and Arkansas fans
are doing the same thing to Kentucky because

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there's so much interconnected there. And
sure, you know, it's like you

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know when you when you break up
with somebody that you've dated for years,

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you just don't wipe him out of
yere and you create that It's it's almost

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a burner account, and you go, yeah, you create that burner account

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just to check in to see what's
going on with him. I'm with you,

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Mike, and I think with cal
I think you're right he was he

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was not going to change. In
fact, I'm not even sure he's going

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to change anything in Arkansas. He's
bringing the same staff that was not effective

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for him. But if he did
change at Arkansas, it wouldn't be him

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admitting he was wrong, you know
what I mean, he would be you

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know, so this is kind of
is out if he did want to do

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some things differently, because he was
going to be so stubborn in Lexington,

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I think, you know, the
best thing that could have happened was what

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happened right that he that somebody came
in and got paid to get rid of

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him, and you didn't have to
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got a guy that is the polar
opposite of cow. Will see if he

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gets results, but I think,
man, he's checking some boxes that have

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have given Kentucky fans some feels about
their program they haven't had in a long

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time. Yes, I mean,
and and like you know, Pope,

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that's gonna be a big game for
them whenever they come in. But I

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don't know if it's more important for
Pope or more important for cal. Oh,

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It's more important for me. It's
more important for cal because I mean,

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there's a lot going to be around. Calls basically took what was going

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to be the Kentucky team and just
moved it to Fayerville. Yeah, I

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uh, and he and he and
he doesn't have his star freshman and quaintance

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and I'm with you and Mike.
I appreciate the phone called don't be a

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stranger. I'm glad he said that
because I absolutely think I think the pressure

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will be on John Calipariy to win
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don't know what the situation is gonna
be at that time. Maybe Kentucky's rolling

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in Arkansas stinks and maybe there's not
as much pressure or whatever. But if

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that's the case, he's gonna be
getting roasted for going to Arkansas and beat

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a bum. But Mark Pope is
not expected to beat John Caliperry. I

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wouldn't think in year one. I
mean, Kentucky is a superior program than

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Arkansas, clearly, but look at
this me, John Calla Perry's in the

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whole fame man, and he's gonna
have a I mean, right now,

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on paper, I don't know if
I would take the roster that Arkansas has

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over Kentucky's because again it's mostly well, I don't know, John oll Davis

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is a pretty damn good player and
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But no, I mean, I
I think if Mark Pope, like,

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let's say, the first time they
play, which I know we don't have

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the schedule yet, but the first
time they play, if it's in Fayetteville

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and Pope goes in there and at
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team and they beat him in Fayetteville, that would be. Not only is

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that gonna be huge for Pope,
that will be I mean that'll I mean

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Cal's gonna have heat coming at him
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from Arkansas fans, but you know, Col's of polarizing, larger than life

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figure to where a lot of people
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he has a lot of haters.
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success. I think also it's because
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natural for people to not like him. If he's your guy, you love

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him. If he's not, you
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would probably agree with that. So
if Pope gets him, it'll be a

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national talking point within college basketball,
right cal Perry hosting his former team,

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and you know, the man from
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him like that would be huge.
And if cal beats Pope, you know,

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Arkansas fans will be chesty, cow
will do Cal things. And I'm

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sure Kentucky fans will feel like,
man, that one's stung a little bit

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more, you know, than others. But it's not. I mean,

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I just think overall we're talking about
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is not an this is not an
insult Pope. But like he's not I

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mean, he isn't. I mean, he's never one of I mean his

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resume wouldn't even be opened up by
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but like objectively speaking, and I
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I'm I'm a part of the rivalry
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do well. But those that are
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top, there's like just saying Mark
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something I think a lot of people
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years, when Pope's got his feet
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Col's looking like, you know,
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was doing in Lexington, maybe it
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What are your thoughts on the Bullet
County Walmart drama? Johnny, you know

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about this? I don't, and
I go to that Walmart frequently. I'm

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curious. We'll talk about it on
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I find myself probably not as much
as others, but I'm now I'm now

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on the Trilly Donovan bandwagon to where
I I check his uh. I mean,

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there's a lot of stuff in there
that I don't I can't, you

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know, I can't keep up with
what they're talking about, but you know

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what's happening here in the Trilly Donovan
discord. Like each Power five program,

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and I can say Power five because
the Big East like they have their own

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community or channel is what it's called. So there's a bunch of Louisville fans

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in here, and I think,
didn't you tell me John that at one

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point uh at one point Indiana had
the most like interaction or was it the

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most fans and I don't remember the
specific stat but Indiana and Kentucky were the

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top two. So what's happening is
that, like, there are some people

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that are like connected, that are
fans that aren't Trilly Donovan, and they'll

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get info and you know that'll lead
to Trilly maybe checking his sources. But

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what's really fascinating to me is that
some of the Louisville stuff has has has

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gotten out because of another team going
after a guy and saying, hey,

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I'm here in Louisville, is you
know is uh is involved? I'm here

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in Louisville. Is going to bring
him in for a visit. And they're

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you know, they're their their interest
in their reporting on it, or even

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if you call it it's just a
fan, they're just you know, communicating

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with fans online. I don't know
if you'd call that a report or not,

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but it's not about Louisville, but
it connects it. So then somebody

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on the Louisville side will do some
digging and like it's almost like a like

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a community based way of like getting
info. And like I hate it for

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the guys that have the paywall on
the twenty four to seven and the rivals,

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because you know, they do work, they do they work hard,

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and they do have connections and sources. But like there are people that are

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getting things a day before them on
this discord. So I'll bring all that

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up to say it has gotten a
little bit quiet as far as just you

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know, here's what I think.
I think by the weekend or maybe Monday,

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we'll we'll find out if some of
these guys we've talked about recently are

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visiting Louisville, like their scheduling visits, and I think we'll find out.

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I think next week between Monday and
Wednesday is my guest as to when we're

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going to get a decision from Great
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any legitimate like noise about which way
he's leaning, who feels good, who

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feels bad? I know, Texas
Tech. You know, it seemed as

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if they were done just because it
sounds like they were going to go to

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a different direction. But then you
know, and let me ask you this,

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John, you get your opinion.
If you see somebody is on a

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visit and they start following players that
are there, a coach or two,

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do you think that that is a
tell? I don't at all. I

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think there's some legitimacy to it.
So, for example, Indiana had Feral

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Pain or fell Pain, however you
say his name. He was a guy

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from Minnesota visiting around the same time
that Umar Ballow was visiting Indiana. They're

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both big men. As soon as
Ballow committed, the guy from Minnesota,

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Pain unfollowed everybody, so I'm assuming
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That's different unfollowing, totally different following, like while they're hey, let me

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follow this dude on the team I
just met on my visit. Like I

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just think that's normal, Like that's
being core, Like that's just be I

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mean, if it's just one guy, yeah, but if you start following

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the whole team, the whole coaching
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tell for sure. And I'm sure, I'm sure every situation is different,

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but I would actually believe that if
you follow them while you're there, I'm

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kind of thinking it's just you being
around him, and it's not much of

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a tell. If you start following
a bunch of dudes like a day two

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after you left, then I'm thinking
that's where you're going, you know what

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I mean? Yeah, that makes
sense, but don't I don't really think

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there's much. I mean, as
far as visitors throughout the process of Pat

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Kelsey building his roster, I think
a lot of them have been active on

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social media, but with Great osib
Or, I've not seen anything. I've

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not seen a picture of him on
any visit other than somebody in a picture

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of him walking into Churchill Downs from
like one hundred yards away, and it

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looked like it could be him and
his folks and Pat Kelsey, but like

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you know, it's so far away. So and it also makes me think

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that he wants he wants to be
private, Like if you're visiting in Alexon

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and you're visiting in Lowell during Derby
Week even Texas Tech, maybe like people

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are gonna fight. It's almost like
he wants to hide. Not that he's

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hiding something, but I think this
may be somebody who wants to be private

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or something. But anyways, let's
get to the important stuff here because we

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had a text right before they said
it in earlier, but I read it

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right before we went to our last
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the drama with the Bullet County Walmart, and I don't. And let me

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clarify, if you're talking about what
I think you're talking about, which I

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believe you are, it's it's it's
a Walmart that I do think serves a

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good chunk of Bullet County. But
it's actually it's on the line literally like

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I mean maybe a football field before
you get to Bullet County. It's the

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Walmart in Hillview. And there is
a Facebook page group I should say,

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called all Things Hillview and it's it's
something there's a lot of entertainment in there

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from time to time, and I
it's like a guilty pleasure, like there

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could be a sitcom based on Hillview. Yeah, he'llview all things. He'llview

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the like like my old I don't
live in this neighborhood anymore, but I

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still am a part of the neighborhood
Facebook group that I used to live in

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and I can't leave it because there's
a lot of like drama and just like

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crazy stuff that I just I'm an
addict for that kind of stuff. But

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somebody asked yesterday, anybody know what's
going on with the hill View Walmart?

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Why are they closed? And a
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They didn't have power. I don't
know what led to that could have

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been maybe maybe you know, maybe
lightning striking or something. I'm not sure,

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but I feel like if Walmart for
Walmart to not have power or have

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some electrical issues, like you think, they'd be everywhere. But anyways,

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what this turned into was, you
know, somebody saying that, hey,

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this is sad because now they're gonna
have to trash all the frozen stuff because

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it's because if it's not freezing,
it's thawing out and it's gonna get to

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a warmer temperature and it's going to
go bad. And then there's somebody claiming,

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hey, my daughter works there,
and uh, they are emptying everything

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out as we speak, because you
know they are. This is what you're

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supposed to do. And then it
led to a bunch of people claiming,

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well, I know somebody that works
there, and they don't they tell their

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employees to throw it back, you
know, so who knows who's right who?

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And it does look as if the
thread's going on here to show pictures

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of their of their sections having food, but like there's no way to know

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if it's the stuff that was frozen
thought out, went bad and they put

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it back in, or if it's
you know, new stuff anyone could manufactured

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picture like you don't you don't know, but it's just I mean, Wendy

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here says interesting because I've seen them
self frozen stuff after they had freezer issues

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last summer. Everything was thawn out
and they just put it back in.

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But we shall see. Well,
I'll be asking once they open back up,

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Like nobody wants to buy bad food, but to see this have this

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many comments, you know, a
bunch of people sharing it, Like,

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man, I can't imagine being that
board and that being sort of what consumes

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my time and my interest. I
can't imagine planning going into there and asking

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somebody whether or not they did anything
with it. I'll just go somewhere else

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about this, Yeah, I mean, and I guess you know it.

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It's not like hey, because it
was frozen and it thought out and it

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then refroze like it got frozen again. That like it's going to taste bad

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or be free. You know,
it's because it's like if it's meat,

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like it's unhealthy, right, Yeah, you can get bacteria, Yeah,

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shouldn't have So, like I'm going
to I'm going to believe that the you

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know, maybe this is me being
naive, I'm going to believe that corporation

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like Walmart would like understand the the
legal issues they would have if like they

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were caught doing that, and like
an employee would probably one of the many

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employees would probably tell on them and
that would be like a big issue.

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Again, maybe I'm naive, but
yeah, it's if that's what you're talking

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about, which it looks like that's
what you're confirming that that you know that

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you are talking about. Yeah,
I mean, I guess the electric issues

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have been fixed and they're good to
go. But I'm sure they had a

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few angry locals wanting clarification, wanting
proof. Did you throw out the stuff

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that you know wasn't you know that
that it wasn't frozen after they lost power?

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Are you? Are you like really
like when it comes totally different conversation,

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I don't want to get to like
the the the like back like the

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the the sickness you could get if
meat is below the temperature that's raw.

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But like when it comes to expired
stuff, are you like a are you

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like anal about that? It depends
on on what it is like. So

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to me, there's a difference between
best buy date and an expiration date.

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Best buy means it's still fine if
you go past the date and consume it.

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But an expiration to me, are
they both on there? It depends

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on what you buytch I think for
me, it's usually expiration. Okay,

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I could be wrong, so I'm
probably going to gross people out here.

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I really don't if I can't,
like if it looks fine to me,

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Like I don't really care. Like
there was a it was it. There

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was like a like a seasoning packet
for a dinner my wife was making,

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and it was like a month expired, which means we had it for a

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long time because those things don't expire, Like that's not something they would expire

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quickly, right, Yeah, And
she didn't want to use it, and

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I'm like why, Like what could
have happened to it? And like she

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thought she was married to the grossest
human being on the planet. I think

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the seasoning packet is fine, but
if it was like eggs, I got

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milk. So milk, No,
I'm not, I mean, milk can

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bee as fresh as can be.
I just milk. Milk's milk is obviously

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used to make a lot of things. And I don't like, I'm not,

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I don't, I don't. I'm
not grossed out by the thought of

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drinking milk. But there's just something
about milk that just is, you know,

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I don't know, I'm I can't
tell you the last time I drank

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milk, like straight mean either probably
twenty years not even kidding, But yesterday,

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just a day ago, I made
like so what I do because I'm

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trying to eat healthier and it is
healthy, but it's also just something I

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really enjoyed doing. I'll get like
a I'll get chicken thighs or chicken tenders,

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and I'll cook them all in the
air fry or the oven if I

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have time, and I'll just save
them and you know, seizon them up

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and all that. And that's just
what I'll eat for like lunch for a

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week. And I cooked these chicken
thighs yesterday that the I don't know which

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date it was, John it either
said one of the two best buy or

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expire by and the date was May
the fifth, So with poultry, i'd

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have thrown that crap out, so
three days after that date. And I

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looked at it and I'm like,
looks totally normal. I mean it's I

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mean, there's not. I mean, and it's and it's three days behind

405
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.640
the date. And I cooked them
and I ate two of them this morn

406
00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:02.839
or today for lunch, and so
far I'm good. But I'm the kind

407
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:06.640
of psycho that like now because I've
done that, and so far I haven't

408
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:11.559
got sick. Like I may notice
the ones a week expired and I may

409
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.359
try just because I'm a sick Oh
see how far you go. But it's

410
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.640
certain, Yeah, it's certain things
like I don't cook much stuff at all

411
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:18.799
anyway, so it's a rare situation. But it is odd that like that

412
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.559
happened to me yesterday. And I
was telling my wife and she was like,

413
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.480
I mean, I'm not eating that. You can do what you want.

414
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:26.480
I was like, all right,
well cook them, especially with chicken

415
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.000
chickens, you can really get sick. But I just you know, again,

416
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.400
this is me probably just once again
making myself look like a real dumbass.

417
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.160
I just assume that that dates like
yeah, they just they they're just

418
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:38.680
you know, it's probably we probably
got another month or so like that,

419
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:44.160
which is clearly not the case.
But I don't know if it looked as

420
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:48.480
if it was good something like there
are certain places where like meats on sale

421
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.839
at like not your big chains,
but like your smaller places like a priceless

422
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.599
or even a like a value market. Yeah. Yeah, like a lot

423
00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:02.440
of their stuff that you see that's
super cheap, like it's got you buy

424
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:03.960
it, you better make it in
two days because that's what the date thing

425
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:07.440
says on there. Yeah, and
it looks as if like it's not as

426
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.359
fresh, you know what I'm saying. Yes, sure, so this didn't

427
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.200
this was like this was a I
mean, I don't want to act like

428
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.480
we're bougie, but like when it
comes to that kind of if I'm doing

429
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:22.680
like pork or chicken, like I
buy thee the more expensive kind, because

430
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.880
I do think there's a difference,
right, So if it had been one

431
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:32.039
of those you know, off brand
things that we got from when they got

432
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.079
like when it's out in the middle
and you eat it, or it's out

433
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:36.839
in the middle and it's on it
and it's like, you know, on

434
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.200
a sale then like I'm I wouldn't
even consider it. But I still felt

435
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.079
like I was. I was in
I was in the clear. And so

436
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.559
far, you know, so far, so good. But uh maybe maybe

437
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.720
tomorrow, you know, I'll have
to take a sick day and you guys

438
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.519
will all know, yees, it's
because that six son of a you know

439
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.319
what, decided to eat chicken that
had that it that had gone bad.

440
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:03.000
But I think I think I'm good. I think I'm good. All right,

441
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.759
let's see here, and we have
more people sending in pictures from I

442
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.079
guess that Walmart that are you know, that are showing that they do have

443
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.000
Like, I don't know what you're
in. I don't know what you're indicating

444
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:17.359
with that picture. Are you telling
me that like, hey, they've got

445
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:18.359
new stuff out here, we're good, or are you telling me like,

446
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.480
hey see they put the stuff that
you know, fell below the temperature it's

447
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:30.559
supposed to be so anyways, So
another question that came on the text line

448
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.839
about the TBT we were talking earlier
before the end of the show that I'm

449
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.119
sorry, before the end of the
three o'clock hour about the TBT, Kyle

450
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.400
Kurrick was added to the team,
and some of some have asked me who

451
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:47.160
the coach is going to be.
I remember Reese Gaines being named the coach

452
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:52.480
of the TBT whenever they were kind
of putting this this round together. But

453
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.000
I don't know if that's still the
case because he's not I mean, he

454
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:57.039
might still be in Louisble, but
he's not on the staff anymore. I

455
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.079
don't knowbout that would matter. So
maybe he still is going to be the

456
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.920
coach. I really don't know.
But Mark Lieberman is not doing it this

457
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:04.839
year, which I really wish he
would have because I love Mark and I

458
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.599
thought his coaching was a big part
of why that team was having success.

459
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.279
But he decided not to do it, and congrats to him. By the

460
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.599
way, he was just named the
head coach at holy Cross, so they

461
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.119
got a great coach in Mark Lieberman. And uh, I know, not

462
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.640
coaching this past year was probably something
that was very unusual for him because it's

463
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.200
been his life and he's great at
it. I mean, he was a

464
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:30.960
Division one assistant coach at Southeastern Louisiana
before I think up until this past season,

465
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.400
and you know, he wanted to
be back here in Louisville closer to

466
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:38.519
his daughter who you know who lives
here. So that'll be a great situation

467
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.599
for for Holy Cross because again they
got themselves a really really good coach.

468
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.319
All let's go to the phone.
One five two five is the number,

469
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:51.440
and we will now welcome in Danny. Danny, how are you, hey,

470
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:53.960
Nick? I'm good. I had
a question today, like, how

471
00:30:55.000 --> 00:31:00.599
if you heard the Trent Noah the
new UK commits from Harlan County woks are

472
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.880
today and it was kind of refreshed
here. It was refreshing hearing him talking

473
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.480
about he was excited today he got
up and put on a Kentucky hoodie and

474
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.359
it meant a lot more because he
was on the team. Now. It's

475
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.240
just such a you know, juxtaposition
between the and not to knock the kid

476
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.599
like Jadan Quaintins, who's just you
know, whoever can offer me the most

477
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.759
money. That's strictly transactional with a
guy like that, whereas different Yeah,

478
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.480
I get it, and even Cow's
guys like I love dealing Ham and Shepherd

479
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.200
to a lesson degree. But I
mean, I just wonder if you think

480
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.079
like and I want to ask TWESDAYDS
if louis has got any guys like that?

481
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.279
But do you think it matters in
the tournament, because I do.

482
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:38.799
I mean I think that Rob dealing
him last year. I think it's hard

483
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.880
for a kid that goes whether I
win this game against Oakland or not,

484
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:47.880
four months from now, five I'm
gonna be making five million dollars versus like

485
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.400
Trent No today was like his big
thing and you could tell with Sincerea.

486
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.079
I want to win a banner for
Kentucky. I want to win, like,

487
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.279
you know, going back to his
hometown and being a hero because he

488
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.119
you know, he's a guy that
maybe no what thought Red was gonna do

489
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.119
that? Well, but maybe it'll
go to the NBA, but that's not

490
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:06.519
his Yeah, I don't know if
you can win with those guys. I

491
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.279
have a dissector because I know you
I like to think Ukon lineup was like

492
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.480
that, and then you're like,
well, they've got two lottery picks,

493
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.720
so they're not winning it with the
quote unquote hometown guys. And then honestly,

494
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:20.400
I'm going to try to follow both
rosters this year. So I don't

495
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.720
know if Louisville's got any guys like
that that are you know, just want

496
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:29.160
to play for Louisville their whole life
and there a five stars so and I'm

497
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:30.400
I'm just curious. Yeah, thank
you for the call, Danny. I

498
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.200
appreciate. That's a good question.
I'm want to reset that on the other

499
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.279
side because we don't have a whole
lot of time here. But I will

500
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.799
say this. You know, people
can say that all that stuff doesn't matter,

501
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.720
you need talent. All that's corny, that's cute, and I mean

502
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:49.359
I get why they're saying that,
but I mean it it as a fan

503
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:55.119
that will always stand out to you
because that's I mean, it's not a

504
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.400
knock on anybody who does come to
play for these local schools that will acknowledge

505
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:00.279
like, hey, I love it
now because I'm here, but like I

506
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:05.200
didn't grow up idolizing this program because
I'm from you know, across the country.

507
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.359
But let's reset that on the other
side. It's a really good question

508
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:12.559
because I worry now that the young
players, and I mean kids, they're

509
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:17.160
sixteen years old, their memory of
Louisville growing up, Like, when's the

510
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.839
last time Louisville was really really relevant
For like a stretch, It's been a

511
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:23.440
long time. So like, even
if you grew up around Louisville and you

512
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:29.200
like louisvillecause you're from here or your
dad liked Louisville, it's just been a

513
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:30.519
long time. You know, you
kind of missed a gap there. I

514
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:32.880
don't mean you can't go get players. But great question, Danny. We'll

515
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.920
talk a little more about that on
the other side right here on Sports Talk

516
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.680
seven ninety. All right, so
let's finish up the four o'clock hour,

517
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:44.880
picking up where he left off there
before the break. Good question from one

518
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:52.400
of our callers, Danny, about
the local kid that cares about a program

519
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:57.319
that he's committing to because it's like
all he's ever known, Right, it's

520
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:02.400
happened. I mean, the latest, the most recent player that I can

521
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:08.079
think of for Louisville that came to
Louisville and I know grew up a big

522
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:15.360
Louisville fan and probably dreamed of playing
at Louisville. Dwayne Sutton certainly is that.

523
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.000
And and you know his path was
a little bit different because he was

524
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.400
not a big recruit. He actually
started at U in c Asheville and then

525
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.559
transferred here as a walk on.
Obviously got a scholarship and became a great

526
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.719
player. So he's one of them. But Quent Sneyder, I mean,

527
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.119
I know his father, Scott as
a diehard Louisll fan, always has been.

528
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.000
And you know Quentin was a star
from a young age and was a

529
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.199
top forty recruit and you know,
had a great career at Louisville. So

530
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.199
the question, I suppose, like, and now, of course Trenton Noah

531
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.079
is is doing that for Kentucky.
He's committed to Kentucky. Same thing with

532
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.559
Travis Perry, I would assume,
who's also going to Kentucky. So the

533
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.079
question was, you know, can
that really help you? Right? And

534
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:59.639
the first answer to that would be
if they have like if they can play

535
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.159
like if the good and I mean, that's really what it comes down to.

536
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:06.480
So if you've got a guy who
you know, one of the reasons

537
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.639
you got him is because you know
you could because he loves Kentucky in like

538
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.320
clearly Kentucky or Louisville. If that's
the school he chooses, are the is

539
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.119
the best offer and that the other
offers are nowhere near the caliber, then

540
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:22.039
you know it's probably unlikely that that'll
really matter. I mean, but it

541
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:23.480
can never hurt anything, right,
Like, if you're relying on those guys

542
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:27.159
to be you know, the stars
in a different, different situation. But

543
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:32.880
I do think there's something of value
when a guy is not only out there

544
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.800
busting his ass wanting to win for
his team, meaning the players that he's

545
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:43.480
become close with, the coach that
recruited him, and you don't end up

546
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:47.480
at this level of basketball if you're
not a very driven and fierce competitor.

547
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:52.559
I mean, I don't think it's
possible. So you have all that and

548
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.519
then you throw in, you know, the love that they've had for the

549
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.360
program they're playing for forever, then
yeah, it can only well, but

550
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.559
how much I really don't know,
you know, I don't I don't think

551
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.519
that there are players who, you
know, don't give it there all because

552
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.679
they're like, yeah, you know, I grew up a Duke fan,

553
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.920
you know. I just I just
think you're not wired that way. And

554
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:16.440
I, I don't know, I've
never been in this situation. I grew

555
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:22.159
up idolizing Louisville basketball and I pretended
to be Dewan Wheat in my driveway,

556
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.599
like I that's I love Louisville basketball, always have and I dreamed of playing

557
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.239
for Louisville, and unfortunately that was
not in the cards for me. No

558
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:34.679
pun intended, But like I think, if you get there and you're you're

559
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.239
you're in it, you're part of
it, like you're playing for a coach

560
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.679
and you're I mean, like I
kind of think that fan stuff, it

561
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.920
doesn't go away. It's never gonna
go away, and it actually will be

562
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.199
much different when you finish your career. But I think in the moment,

563
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.679
the whole, like, man,
I gotta win this for the state.

564
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.960
Like, I just don't think people, I don't think players kind of think

565
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.239
about that kind of stuff. I
could be wrong. I just you know,

566
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.119
I think it's different when it's you, right, when you're watching as

567
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.159
a kid, it's it's you're a
fan, right, But when you're playing,

568
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.880
you're not a fan. I mean
you are, but for totally different

569
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.280
reasons, if that makes any sense
at all. Can you think of any

570
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:15.079
Indiana players john that, like we'll
say Trace Jackson Davis for sure. Yeah,

571
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.119
and then he always considered to be
like a locke for Indiana. I

572
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:22.480
guess I don't know too much about
his background and his story, but he

573
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.199
never I mean he stock around for
four years as somebody who was super talented,

574
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:28.960
could have jumped in the transfer portal, never did, could have gone

575
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:30.360
to the NBA early, Never did. I mean, I guess technically with

576
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.760
the COVID year, he did leave
early, but he still got his degree

577
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.679
from what I've been from what I
remember. And then currently, Anthony Leal

578
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.199
grew up in Bloomington. He's not
a star player, but he's somebody who's

579
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.360
been around it his entire life.
Yeah, I think. And again some

580
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.000
will say this is corny. Who
cares. You gotta have talent, you

581
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:52.000
gotta win. I mean, I
get, I get why people say that,

582
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:58.280
But when it comes to culture,
when it comes to camaraderie, like

583
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.960
fan it's good to have. It's
good to have guys like that, even

584
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:06.360
if they're just complimentary players, because
it's healthy for your program and it can

585
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.559
help outsiders who committed not knowing anything
about the program other than you know,

586
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:14.760
seeing them on TV. Like it's
just good to have guys around who really

587
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:19.360
can like for example, Peyton Siva
is now he's not a Louisville kid,

588
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.320
but he you know, he played
here four years, win a national championship

589
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:28.519
for the best players we've ever had, and he made Louisville his home after

590
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.000
playing basketball because it's part of him, Like he loves Louisville, always will,

591
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:36.639
the city, and of course obviously
the program. So Peyton is a

592
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.360
perfect guy for the position that Pat
Kelse hired him for because who can better

593
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.760
sell I know he can't be out
on the road recruiting, but who can

594
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:49.519
better sell the payoff of what it's
like to be a great player at Louisville

595
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.239
and accomplished the ultimate goal of making
a Final four and maybe winning a national

596
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.079
championship. He lived it right,
and he knows what it's like to be

597
00:38:55.239 --> 00:39:00.360
remembered and to be a legend around
here. So like it's good to have

598
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.000
somebody like that. They can give
that perspective because they've lived it, they've

599
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:05.920
done it, you know what I
mean. It makes sense, Like I

600
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.199
think that's I think that's really valuable
to have. So, you know,

601
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:14.880
to answer your question, it can't
hurt you. I think it can only

602
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:16.639
help you. How much I really
you know, I really don't know.

603
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.960
And if you're wired a certain way, like it could make it to where

604
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.159
you're pressing too much, because like
you're it means that much to you know

605
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:28.960
what I mean, Like, it's
just everybody's different. All right, let's

606
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get to uh our top of the
hour break. We'll come back for the

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five o'clock hour. Try to finish
strong for you lovely folks here on a

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Thursday afternoon. It's coffee and company
fuel. But Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety

