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Jeff Grubbin. With me is Mike Vanatti. In today's episode, I regret
to inform you that Xbox has lost Tim Dogg the first. Mike, how
are you doing, I'm uh, I'm good. Busy. You know,
I always feel really silly complaining about being tired and like being really busy with
like my video game videos and video game work. But also, yeah,
it's been It's there's just something like mentally exhausting when you just go from like
one thing to the next thing, to the next thing to the next thing,
absolutely not complaining about doing this. This is always so much on not
complaining about doing any of it. It's all fun. It just is a
lot, yeah, absolutely, and it can wear it down, wear you
down eventually. I mean, you got to bring a certain amount of social
juice to all these things, and that stuff is see, you need to
replenngsh it every once in a while, and you don't. You only have
so many ten percent alcohol by volume drinks in your home. So I have
one more that'll be a bad idea. Yes, absolutely, I should have
some weak beer, a nice like weak beer does sound nice, but no,
ye, like just a natty light, just going light, something that's
just water. Basically, I don't want to get the natty splat. He's
not that. Yeah, I don't know. But you're doing well otherwise,
other than being busy, I mean being busy because it's a good busy,
right, It's that we're busy. Is the good busy. It's always better
to be busy than the alternative. Yeah, right, right, absolutely,
And yeah, there's lots of video games to play, so you can talk
about some that you can't. So yeah, it is. It is wild,
you know, twenty thirteen old time like wow, just incredible, blah
blah blah. If twenty fourteen kept this pace, it would be even better
than last year was. I don't think it can. I think it's going
to slow down here eventually. But it has been pretty ridiculous, especially if
you like RPGs. Mm hmmm, yep, I'm sure you're talking about Grand
Blue Fantasy Relink. I do. Actually, it looks like a lot of
fun, I know, I looked at the camera. Everybody, that's all
the correction, I say, twenty fourteen. Give me a break. Yeah,
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Oh okay, well that's that. I'll give that a shot. That
sounds good. All right, cool, I got big topics to talk about.
Let's get started. Happened? Well, I'm gonna start with this one
because I'm interested in your thoughts. I don't know if we've actually talked about
this much. Disney investing one point five billion dollars in Epic and they will
have major Fortnite partnerships. That takes the form of basically like a hub,
a metaverse sort of thing, a bunch of games that have interoperability with Fortnite.
But aren't necessarily Fortnite probably pretty similar to what we saw with Rocket Racing,
the rock band game I can never remember the name of, and the
Lego game. What do you think, mister Disney adult. Yeah, well,
my first thought is how hilarious it is they avoided using the word metaverse
the entire time. Yes, that is the steady hand, the steady guiding
hand. I believe of one John T. Drake who would probably know that
that is not going to be a very helpful thing to put into your press
release at this point, right, But they keep you in words like persistent
game universe. But I mean I think that that is kind of what they
want here, jee Oh sure, Yeah. You look at like the one
big concept art thing. It kind of reminds me of Ralph Frex the Internet,
where it's just it looks like what they really want is a social space
with all these different hubs and like all of their brands are going to be
represented, and you know what exactly do those activations look like? I suppose
are they bespoke games like you have, like what you have with the other
epic game stuff, and are they going to be stickier than those? I
guess, right? How many people are playing that racing game right in Fortnite
right now. Maybe it's a lot of people that maybe were unaware. It
does feel like they went away. Lego game probably does have millions of kids
playing it. I honestly don't know. I did. We did see tonight
that Bob Iger was asked about this, and he said that this stuff,
the game part, the investment has happened. They now own an equity stake
in Epic because they gave them one point five billion dollars and so they are
fully invested into Epic. Tim Sweeney still has the controlling shares, so this
is not Disney owns it instead of ten sent never owned Epic. It's just
now that they're another shareholder. Bob Iger did say though that the games or
whatever this manifest into is going to take a couple of years. And Mike,
my initial thought there was, oh, it's never coming out exactly.
It's probably wrong. But that was my knee jerk reaction. I don't know,
what do you think. I think it's going to come out. That's
a very big investment. It's not, you know, and it's I mean,
my understanding is that it's an investment purely Epic Games to make this stuff.
It's not like Disney's putting together some team, so just paying Epic Games
to do this for them, which has basically been their mo now for a
while. And it makes sense. Disney is already this giant company. They
can't really afford to spin up some major game production studio. They have a
game division and John Drake's doing really good stuff there, but it is smarter
for them generally to just invest, not acquire, but invest in a very
big company that already has a large audience. Right. And what they've mostly
been doing up until this point though, is not even investing. It is
finding people that want to give them money to license things, right exactly,
and that that's only gonna get you so far these days. I think it's
what they realized. It's like whoa by Biger, you know, he looked
around, he was like, wow, did you know that young people like
video games? Well? I looked at them, how much time they're s
been playing video games? And I was shocked, just one sentence away from
saying something about how back in my day it was pac Man. Yes,
right, they've come a long way since pac Man. I am surprised.
He didn't say that. I hope that was just some stupid like I don't
know overhearst or written the line for him, because I mean, he's he's
been there when they did have of course, biggish gaming initiatives like Disney Infinity,
like he's got. I can't I can't believe that the person who's like
CEO of Disney for twenty years or what effort doesn't know about how young people
like video games, right insane. I mean, I'm maybe he thinks he's
speaking to investors that are not accustomed to video games, but I think most
of the people who have money in Disney probably understand the video game space a
little bit. Yeah, I mean, so they do have this one point
five billion dollars. It does represent them sort of saying, hey, yeah,
when we make movies, we put a lot of money into our movies,
and we make parks. We put a lot of money into our parks,
and we make video games. We were just kind of standing back and
hoping something would happen and people would give us us money for not doing any
work, and to a certain extent, that worked for a little bit,
but really it never actually it's never really worked all of Disney's video gaming ideas
and initiatives have been false starts, even the ones that people do have fondness
for Disney Infinity. People like Disney Infinity. It's sold well enough, but
clearly that was supposed to be a long term solution and it was not.
That went away and then suddenly they were back at square one. They do
not want to go back to square one with this, But I don't think
I'm convinced that this is like going to be the thing that people are playing
for ten years. It could be, but I honestly don't know a better
bet that they could go do that they could take with one point five billion
dollars other than this. So I get how they end up here. I
don't know, what do you think? I mean? It's hard. How
do you even get a Fortnite? Right? It's not because that the game
slowly decided we're going to spend a lot of money make a giant hit Fortnite.
Is this weird accident? Yeah, never even supposed to be that game.
But they have to do something, Jeff. For one thing, Disney
struggling in a lot of other areas right now. Movies have been taking a
big hit the brand itself has taken something of a hit, and like you
know, on the movie side, it seems like they're big plan to get
back. There is a lot of sequels and to kind of let off on
the Marvel Gas a little bit and maybe a bit on the Star Wars guess
as well. Yeah, they got it into something, and hey, if
they can make a really interesting sort of social space that is very disneyfied.
The problem is the problem with the matters what do we actually do there,
Like, is it gonna be fun or is it just going to be you
know, an empty mall? Right, right? Is an empty mall?
Yeah? Yeah, that's gonna be tough for them to pull off. I
mean, it's epic. They do know how to make fun games, but
not everything is taking over the world. Fortnite Battle Royale is the one thing
that consistently performs, and these other things kind of feel like distractions. But
again, they do have to try. I think that this is a as
good of a bet as anything else, and if they do kind of nail
the relationship between the two companies where it's like okay, yeah, yeah,
sure, we're gonna have the Disney zone that you can go into and there
won't be guns, so we can we can have all the characters doing all
those things. And because the because we are so invested with one another,
it's a lot easier for us to get the green light to use all these
characters. So all that's good. That's gonna be like well lubricated and work
very well. But then there are still gonna be millions of people playing Fortnite
Battle Royale. Many of the purchases probably will carry over from one to the
other. But even if they don't, I to expect, like you're gonna
be playing Fortnite, and a trailer for Disney movies is just gonna be popping
up in the in stuff like that now, like like just there'll be TVs
playing trailers for new Disney movies all the time. I think just as you're
running around that in that world, they might find more creative and elegant ways
to do that than what I'm describing here. But I think that that that's
the kind of thing that they're thinking of, is like, this is like
an audience that we need to reach with our other products, and sure we
need to go to them and bring them games. We can't just go go
to them and like advertise directly at them. But that can be part of
a wider strategy, and I think for that that makes some sense for them.
It can help, but I mean, can only do so much.
Don't forget episode nine, what was ye Rise of Skywalker? Major plot point
happened in Fortnite, right, and that was still an underperformer. Sure of
course, you know, mostly because the movie was bad r ry, But
who knows? You have that idea today on Games morning of just just make
a battle Royale in like the Magic Kingdom and you're a bunch of kids with
bubble guns or something, right, right, I'd play that absolutely, Yeah,
exactly, And I think that's something that they probably will do because it
was just like a virtual like a virtual representation of their parks. I'd love
that, That's what I mean, it's gonna be that. I don't,
probably not, but I mean if it was, that would be a really
cool place to run around. Now, they probably wouldn't do that because I
don't think they even a bubble gun. I don't think they want people associating
people running around guns inside of the Disney parks. That's just But even if
it was just like there's no combat in its life in Bowery, even though
they just recreated the Magic Kingdom and yeah, I mean around Hide and Seek
game. Yeah, I don't know. I mean just basically make it like
that Connect game, but down the epic engine and without most of control mini
games. That's fine. Yeah, honestly, could just be just to look
at roadblocks, making a bunch of hobbies, a bunch of obstacle courses and
stuff like that. That would probably be fine for the audience that they're going
for. Xbox may bring games to PlayStation. We're going to find out more
next week, so they're gonna have a business update. The business update I
realized when we were talking about the Nintendo Director earlier this week kind of lines
up with a Nintendo direct. Maybe suspiciously, maybe not. Yeah, listen,
I've talked about this to death, mic, so I don't feel a
great need to go over it over and over here. But yeah, this
at a certain point, you look at the kinds of games that we're talking
about from Microsoft that they might be bringing to PlayStation, even like Years of
War, and it's just like, yeah, those games already aren't going to
be moving the needle for Xbox if you keep them exclusive. It feels like
not in the way that they need it to. And then all their stuff
that is massive is already everywhere, like Call of Duty's already everywhere. So
I just kind of don't see how this changes much other than there was a
certain audience that was saying, Hey, I am here for the exclusives and
I'm going to you know, fight the Console Warrior, fight on your behalf,
and I need these games to kind of make me feel better about that.
Yeah, I mean, I'm like, not even whatever the Console Warrior
side of it is. I don't care, like you know, like some
people are using this to you know, bemoan the Console Warrior aspect of it
or talk about that it's not even like a real thing to me. So
we don't care what they think. It's not even a consideration really, But
there are like you know, and I think sometimes when we talk about from
that perspective, we sweep in a lot of like genuine consumers into this,
and there's definitely a lot of genuine criticism to be had here. Right again,
It's like, you know, if you bought an Xbox or five hundred
dollars whatever, and you feel and you're upsetting what criticize it, I go
ahead, that's oh yeah, no matter whether your family or not. In
fact, yeah right, yeah, So I don't know it's but it's still
you know me, at first, I was kind of freaked out by this,
just because it does seem like this big deal change. And I still
have a hard time seeing how this leads to an Xbox that is a really
healthy kind of the Sony level competitor again, right, And I think that's
because it's probably not right. That's I think you're right. What you identifying
there is what's happening. I think it's like it's going to be less of
that and more of more than ever being Microsoft Gaming branch, right, yeah,
and not to the point like where like, oh it's called Microsoft game
Pass. I don't think that actually meant anything when game stopped that. I
do think that is kind of the future we're heading to, and that's what
the Xbox brand is going to be, and it'll still be on machines and
consoles and things like that, and what I'm really talking about where it really
feels like that that might be ten or more years down the road, but
it does feel like that is the road we are on. Yep. And
I think it's because we are yep, like that's just that is what's happening
here now. And if that's not what you want, I get it,
Like yeah, and you should make your voice heard that there's a chance to
change and shape the policy of this big company by yelling about it online or
just like sending your criticisms in on social media media. But Microsoft's been saying
this for a long time now, like they've been saying that this is what
they're doing, and now it's just becoming more explicit and maybe more more extreme
than I think even I was expecting. But it's like when you know,
you go back and see the way that Phil Spencer's talked about this stuff and
the way Matt Booty spoken like FTC filings, it's like, yeah, they're
all they've been considering this strategy in one way or another for quite some time.
And so the fact that we're here after Starfield and Starfield didn't change anything.
They have to be looking at their games internally and being like, we
don't have anything else that we expect to do what we thought Starfield was going
to do, so what's next, And so them having to be like,
Okay, we have to rework our strategy makes a lot of sense to me.
I don't know how else to view it, and I don't help know
how else to explain it to make people not get concerned. I think if
that is, if your worry is I spent five hundred dollars and I want
to feel good about exclusives, you should be worried. I think, like
cause that that is a thing that is going to change, I would also
just urge. Probably it might change, but not in a way that is
necessarily fundamentally bad for you playing video games. You might have to just adjust
slightly. And you made that investment, I get that that's not the best
for you. Yeah. I mean what they're really struggling with is finding a
way that differentiates them from PlayStation because the exclusive just aren't enough, and they
tried. There's a lot of investment, a lot of studios didn't really happen.
I wish that they had tried more in the hardware front itself to find
way to differentiate themselves. Now they did. Before there were things like Connect
and then there was only so much deuce you could actually squeeze out of that
thing, and then you're back to just being a kind of a normal video
game console again, and they tried things like services. I mean, game
Pass was a giant push for a long time and everyone pretty much agrees that
it's great, incredible value and it kind of only can do so much still
and at the end of the day, PS plus also a pretty good deal
also pretty yeah, well, that's the problem with like something when you do
have a good idea like game passed, well, Sony could just make their
own right right away exactly. They'll have a million partners ready to line up
to put their games on it. Because at the end of the day,
like when Nintendo does something different, they find a way to make it feel
like their games rely on it. And game Pass is like just an economic
engine. It's just a commerce engine. It doesn't really affect anything and once
you're actually playing the video game, And that's the differentiating factor that seems to
be missing from Xbox, Like not that PlayStation has it, but PlayStation is
just in a position where they don't need it. Xbox certainly seems like it
does. And if people are like no, I want them just to go
toe for toe, try to make the kinds of games to PlayStation makes and
beat them at it like that is like, I just that is so much
easier said than done. That is what Microsoft has come to realize. I
think, you know, either through trying it or just like maybe like even
like looking at like what they can do and being like, hey, the
things that were already kind of good at that's hard to enough, let alone
trying to shift over and make games like PlayStation. So just they're looking at
the level of investment needed to go toe to toe with Sony and saying that's
going to be very expensive, very risky, because we just don't know if
we're going to be able to do it as well as them, And so
it seems like they're not even going to try. And I think a lot
of people just expected, hey, after twenty eighteen and all those acquisitions,
we're going to get a series of games where they're like really going to throw
haymakers and we're going to see if they can make any changes. And it's
just like, no, that's actually not how it's going to play out.
That was all part of a loading up a weapon that would enable them to
have more options. When they just decided either to either to keep going down
this ride of trying to compete toe to toe or having to shift gears,
and it's like, clearly they have recognized in their opinion they need to shift,
and here we are. I still think we get new Xbox hardware in
like twenty twenty six to twenty twenty eight in that region of time, so
it's like, what does change here? Is like okay, yeah, maybe
we don't get a console after that. But it also felt like Microsoft's was
already trying to push in a direction where maybe they were going to be all
in the cloud or something like that, or we're just everywhere as a service,
So it's like, h that already felt like part of the plan.
So again, I just don't know how much this changes. And if I
sound dismissive, it's because it doesn't. None of this affects me. I'm
sorry, Just personally, I have a hard time of feeling like too much
of a way about this because I already play all these Xbox games on my
PC, so literally nothing has changed for me. It's the same before this
announcement as it is now for me. So I don't know how I can
bring in my personal animus about this. It's just it is what it is
for me. Are you surprised the Series S wasn't more of a positive factor
for Xbox. They had this, you know, they had the cheapest entry
point into the next generation, and you know, they got a lot of
praise for what it was. It was pretty powerful. I know, kind
of out the year or two there was that negative way, like, oh,
this is holding back the Xbox. But for a while there nobody was
saying that, Yeah. I think it's yeah, I'm surprised, a little
surprised. People always had that thing about the Xbox tax about oh, if
Xbox does it, it's like looked in a negative way, and I think
I don't like fully agree with that, but I think there's something to it.
Like I would point back to tomb Raider, the exclusivity there, and
how if another company had done that, Sony or Nintendo, it would have
probably looked have been looked upon much more favorably than it was when Microsoft did
it. And I think there's something to that with the Xbox Series S,
where people are just like that thing was trying to convince you, hey,
this doesn't have to be your primary consul. Maybe you are spending a lot
of money on something else, We'll offer you a cheaper option to have it
be your side piece. And I think some people are like kind of just
like, no, I don't like, I don't want to consider that,
and it was just kind of it was so yeah, I'm surprised that it
didn't catch on more that people couldn't just like put that aside and be like,
oh, yeah, cool, now I have an easy way to get
into game pass. I think it did pretty good in like Europe. I
think it seems like it did pretty good here, but it just didn't change
the conversation at all in a way that I maybe I expected it too.
We have a bunch of super chats about the chefs. We'll be able to
talk about this more in the future, but we can move on to other
news stories if you want to bring it. Yeah, let's see here.
Yes, the next one is, oh, just real quick. FTC is
unhappy about this and that's just not going to really result in much but hey,
yeah, exactly this. FTC is upset about Microsoft laying people off.
I should say the Microsoft late off nineteen hundred people about two weeks ago.
FTC is now filed an injunction to try to like stop further merging of these
companies that have already basically merged and FTC is going to court trying to get
that injunction in place, and they basically said when Microsoft was in court trying
to defend itself against the FTC previously, they said they wouldn't do this,
and they said that activision would stand on its own, so there the redundancies,
so there wouldn't be the standard kind of layoffs that happened because of a
merger. And now when this happened, Phil Spencer did use the word overlap
and so that therefore they lied, and yeah, seems like it seems like
that's exactly what happened. Now. Microsoft defended themselves saying, the reality's changed.
We had to make changes because of what the UK wanted us to do
to get the deal for to get the deal through, and that all happened
after the FTC case. So when he said that that was true and then
things changed and then that stopped being true, it's like, ah, I
don't give a fuck, I don't care. This sucks that you guys like
said that and then laid off nineteen hundred people, even if it is in
line with the eight percent that everyone else is laying off and even if it
is something that Activision was already planning to do, you didn't have to do
it, or you could have like taken more time to find ways to keep
more of those people on board. There was a you know, maybe I
may or may not work for a company that had layoffs and they didn't lay
off eight percent of people. They lay a few smaller than that. They
found a way to lay off a fewer than that. Still sucks that there's
a layoffs, but it's like, you're Microsoft. You have all the money
in the goddamn world. You didn't have to lay off eight percent. You
could have just picked at it, maybe a little bit lighter, instead of
going whole hog on it like the way you did. So uh yeah,
I'm glad the FTC is poking at them. Yeah, no exactly, Like,
yeah, they deserve to be scrutinized over it, right, I mean,
I don't think much is gonna happen for it, But like, if
the worst case scenario happens, like you have to on the merge with ABK,
I'm not gonna feel too bad about Like, yeah, I mean what
you kind of messed it up, but yeah, not much is gonna happen
there, but absolutely look into it, make them feel uneasy about it,
and go for it. And then skull Bones is the uh next quarry here?
Everybody, we did it? Hell yeah, did it? Quadrue.
That's what all those extra years were for. That's what all those trailers were
for. If you're gonna, if you are gonna make a game, it
takes ten years, it's because you need that extra a eeves. Get them
all in defending this game being a seventy dollar game, even though it's also
kind of a live service game, so that feels like it should be free
to play, said well, it's a quadruple A game, so it has
to be say to that, yeah, right, I mean if that's if
that's true, you should feel ashamed of your words and deeds for doubting this
game. We're done here, I guess stop. He wins. It's uh.
I treasured the moments like this in video games. Yeah, it's beautiful.
I thank you. I needed that this week called Bodes. People are
playing that right now. There's like an open beta or something. Yeah,
it's it's an open beta. It's like free, I think, available to
everybody, so I almost I don't know, have fun I guess right,
because that's exactly I'm like, I almost downloaded. I'm like, I don't
have time for this. Playing the Hell Divers to tomorrow. Yeah, I
gotta do the Hell Divers to tutorial tonight. Still up there? Yeah,
God, that's right. People, someone says something good about it, and
someone says something bad about it in chat. I bet it'll be like like
Suicide Squad. Some people like, some people don't like. And there's a
lot of games these days that most people like, and you know it sucks,
but I'm like, I think I'd rather just play those. Yeah,
I mean, there's so much to choose from at the moment. Skull and
Bones is one that's going to be have a very difficult hill to climb.
To get me on board. I did start Suicide Squad just because I'm gonna
be talking about on BCR tomorrow. I'm like, eh, I'm having fun
when I like run around and jump and shoot stuff. Everything else is kind
of boring and bad. Well, the story is decent. I'm not a
huge DC guy, so I do kind of roll my eyes a little bit.
But at least the performance in the writing I can tell is high quality.
So yeah, but then I see Skull and Bones and then I'm like,
well, Hell Divers two is right over there, and I am like
looking, I'm like, I'm still playing ya like a dragon infinite. Well,
so I have all these RPGs and Final Fantasy seven Rebirth demos out.
I'll talk about that a little bit later, and you know, like a,
it's gonna be out soon. That's gonna be good. It's so much
there's so many big, big games to play right now that yeah, I
can't even I can't even really think about Skull and Bones as a joke at
the moment. Really. Ah, right, that does it for the news
topics, Mike, Why don't we take a quick break when we get back.
We'll get into the super chats. Looking forward to that right after this.
All right, Mike, oh man, I could not say that word.
All right, Mike, we are back, We have some super chats.
Why don't you go ahead and hit me with those, Yes, and
if you want to send in a super chawer, but we'll read them on
the air. So if you want to say something mean about us because you
are emotionally upset about this Xbox thing and want to lash out at us instead,
do it through the super chat. Then we'll read it. I'll write
it. I'll read whatever you want to you maybe money, absolutely, and
if it's not racist. Uh. T book At twenty three says, can
I get Mike to say Doctor Evil's line one million dollars while using kwan Chi's
voice to me, QUANCHI looks like a gothic Doctor Evil. I don't know
if I'm capable of sound like kwan Chi. I can look just like it,
but okay, can you just try to sound spooky? I think that'll
be close enough. One million dollars? Yeah, pretty good? Hangout,
pretty good. Ariel Dogaio says, Scale one to eleven. How much do
you love that puppet? I assume we're still talking about the death Stranding two
puppet tragedy. We did it, We did everybody. Why are we such
an abrasive show? People? That's great? People love it? Uh Socratess
friend Darryl says, I've been playing the foul Fantasy seven rebirth demo today.
People make a big deal about the big spoiler, but what about the other
final Fantasy seven spoiler. I don't even know what I played the demo and
I don't know what even spoiler talking about in that thing. It's the Nibbleheims
section of Foul Fantasy seven. It's mostly just you know, a triple A
maybe a quadruple A reproduction of that. I guess there's that stuff in the
beginning, but I mean, yeah, it's a demo of the game.
Of course it's gonna be I guess spoilers per se. It's very good though,
Jeff, it's very good that demo. Yeah, I've heard nothing but
good things, and I'm very excited because I enjoy Final Fantasy seven remake who
quite a bit. Obviously remake is just so good. Oh yeah, Sumi
Mech says, is there any song orson of the three reload that you prefer
over its original version? Love the show? Maybe? I mean I haven't
like done back to back to them, and they sound pretty similar, but
want to be close. The kind of school day song sounds very good.
Mass Destructions does sound great here. I'm not sure if I prefer over the
original, but I might the new Nighttime song, which is like a new
one very good. Also, it is just such a good soundtrack. It
has been thinking like, man, this Persona three actually still just have the
best soundtrack out of the three you know, modern personas in all very good.
It's so good. Yep, Hitch says, as a PC only player,
please tell me Xbox still releases their games day and date going forward in
PlayStation keeps sporting too. Oh yeah, if you're on PC, you're gonna
be. You're gonna be in a great position. Don't worry. Yeah,
I mean, I think that's what like the benefit here of like being a
PC player is that that is just kind of the direction everyone's sore to going
where it's hey, an open platform. I could put my games on here
and it doesn't feel weird. Yeah, you're like, that's why I can't.
I defaulted the PC during the Xbox one and PS four generation. That's
where I was like, Okay, this is where I'm at. I'm very
happy to be over here, because I found those consoles will be a pretty
pretty disappointing and then clear it became clear that the industry was going to be
moving in that direction anyhow, So I was happy you kind of just to
stay still. But yeah, you're gonna be, You're gonna be just fine.
Uh, And I think that's exactly sort of what's happening here these companies
are spotting. Uh, they are looking for more opportunities that look like PC
game. I mean it just throw aren't a lot of those. I mean,
these consoles are becoming more and more like PCs for a while. Now
that trench is going to continue. Uh. Edgar Moreno says it's tecking in.
He's black. Samurai says, oh shit, I'm actually on time.
Show usually coincides with the beginning of a Colorado Knight? Is it a Colorado
Knight? Jeff, It's not a call. It cannot be a Colorado Knight.
It needs to be a healthy, sleepy boy night. I do like
how much. I didn't think that that would catch on, but people seem
to really like the idea of a Colorado Knight. So happy that that happened.
Doctor Ryan says Xbox has lost the butt chug Steve, where's Wort's xpot
killer? Amongst all this? I mean, he's got it right. I
mean, I'm pretty sure he's just back in prison, right, Yeah,
I think he's in jail. Just once he gets out, then we'll start
seeing those super chats again. Carlos Lopez says, what are the odds Xbox
drops out of the console space and ghost third party can gain pass in their
ecosystem this without the box. I worry about the future of consoles if Sony
has no competition. I mean it's a chance, but again, like that
is a conclusion that we're drawing that One, there's no guarantee that's what's happening,
and two would be still quite a bit away there. And then I
worry too about Sony losing that super direct competitor with Xbox, of course,
and there might be consequences from that. There might be higher prices than they
think. There would be higher prices for the consoles. Yes, yeah,
that would be bad. But Sony does still compete with Nintendo, even though
like some people pretend that they don't. Of course, that is competition.
Sony will compete with anybody making PC games, and Sony has to compete with
other entertainment models and things like that. So I get it, and I
get being like I would say, it's better to be academically interested or intrigued
by it than it is to be maybe worried per se. Yeah we are.
We're sitting here and we are all like looking at Okay, what is
the strategy? What are they pulling off? Here. What are they trying
to do and multiple things are happening. I get why people are concerned about
this, but this is not what's happening today Today. They are not going
to come through next week and announce that they're getting out of the hardware game
and they're going full third party, and it's probably not going to be anything
even close to that. However, I get why people are worried about the
slippery slope argument of this. This moment right now could eventually lead to that,
and it gets completely fair because Microsoft is making a pretty big shift.
Earlier in this generation, they one hundred percent were going to make sure these
games were all exclusive to Xbox. A game like Starfield was going to only
be ever playable when it came to a console on Xbox, and now they
are changing that. So they are shifting from one thing to the other.
And the direction they're going is from being very hunkered down and keeping their games
on Xbox to putting them in more places, including PlayStation. So the direction
the wind is blowing is that direction. So I get it, but so
much is going to change between now and when, like like the reality of
this stuff could set end and the strategy has always been bigger than this,
So I just yeah, you can worry about it academically, Like Mike says,
it's just not what's going to be happening right now. Robbie Saul says,
Capcom is a survey right now, please vote for it. Beautiful Joe.
Yeah, that's a like a lot of Burnett account The Beautiful Joe's great.
Hey, it is very good. I mean, Capcom has so many
capcow is doing great right now, and they very much do have a strategy
of focusing on the big, proven, successful franchises and it has worked for
them. I do hope that they do go back to some of these older
ones like Beautiful Joe, like Dino Crisis, and you know, of course
I want more Mega Man. I want them to figure out something there,
and I don't necessarily I'll take another two D Mega Man game, that's fine.
I kind of want to see something new with Mega Man, for it's
been a long time since we've had that. I'm not know if I'm really
realistically expecting some triple A three D shooter platformer, but something new. Yeah,
I hope, uh, I hope there's something comes out of this.
I usually when we get these kind of big surveys, right, Like Atlas
had all those surveys, and we complained about it, asking people one of
the persona games on switch and eventually if did happen, these companies listen,
they both changed. They'll even make Rock the Heel if you yell enough,
Apparently, if you're Cody cry Baby, it will happen. Your Cody cry
Baby, you can make things happen. Is there a specific cap confranchise you
really want them to bring back more than anything, just yeah, because every
time a fighting game has popped off in the last couple of years, last
year and a half, I should say, and I've been super into it.
I want them to go do one of their other ones, like Dark
Stalkers. I think the Versus series was on that serve. The Versus series
was on there, and I think the Versus series is probably going to get
the most heat. It is going to get a I mean, I'm surprised
you even have to ask. Well, Dino Crisis will get the most,
but then after that Ursus maybe, I don't know. People love Versus,
yeah, but it's just a fighting game community, and Versus like a maybe
survival core game community. Georgie says, rather have my girlfriend cheat on me
than Xbox, which was nots in prayers. Georgie's sorry, Georgie. Terry
says, why doesn't Xbox simply put quadruple Excuse me? Why doesn't Xbox simply
put Quadruple A skull and bones on game Pass to fix their problems? Are
they stupid? This one really got me. I saw earlier and I laughed,
why not its quadrup You're just ignoring the fourth? Are your own demis
that any game has ever had? People? Are people? My mentions on
Twitter were like the original Quadruple A game Perfect Dark. I'm like, no,
in a dead space and I think that's phase three in the game.
There is a t shirt you could buy in the in game store that says
Quadruple A because they were saying the game is going to be quad A.
It goes that far back everybody. It's incredible. It's just incredible, Like
Triple A isn't even anything real really, like you know what I mean.
I guess it's effective language, but a god Quadruple eh JD. Kemp says
should FAMP Fantasy seven Rebirth be the first slash last SMP Fantasy game I play
yes, No, no play remake. No, Look, do the funniest
thing ever and just play this one, because don't play the one that's gonna
come after. No play the one before. Yeah, JD can't do it.
Rebirth is not a it's okay to not play the one before. He
kind of game. I wish it was like it just told more people to
play it. If you think you're interested that you should play Final Fantasy seven
remake you sick of Uh? Which one of us do you think is the
sane one, the one that tell you to play the games in order,
of the one that tell us you just play the weird one and that's it,
the one in the middle. Yeah, you all tell me that,
just Rex, thank you for that. Super Chest says Sony has a chance
to do something really funny. When Microsoft approaches them to have Gears of Or
on PlayStation, say, you know, they they just don't get the license.
It's oh man, that actually would be very flow. How well do
you think Starfield's gonna sell on PlayStation? Probably does like a million, two
million copies. There's a lot of PlayStation users out there, a lot of
PlayStation users. There's a lot of people that like those Potesta Games. I
mean people who were mad at the time, like because they play a PlayStation
and they really liked Fallout and stuff like what do you mean I can't play
Starfield right? Like friends of mine didn't really understand. So if friends that
aren't necessarily tuned into like the around Starfield right exactly. I mean, let's
say the game was an unqualified nine, it would probably sell like ten million
copies on PlayStation, maybe like five to ten. But as is, at
least two three million copies is well within the realm of possibility. Adam GC
who was joined me by the way for the game mes game code discussions,
So like you, Adam says, I'm excited about what Xbox has to say.
Can't imagine they're announcing they're making Places of five games without talking new hardware
to calm people's nerves Xbox brand it feels like it use so juice anyways.
Yeah, is there going to be a good cop to the bad cop?
I think for people who consider it bad news? Is there going to be
something else here to kind of spice this up a little? Yeah? I
mean I think Adam Scott it like I think they will talk about and hey,
we have new hardware that we're working on all the time, and of
course we're nowhere near ready to talk about it right now, but we will
in the future because we are still making xboxes that we're here to support that
they I can't imagine any of the plan here is to forsake the people who
buy games on the through the Xbox ecosystem and spend money on micro transactions through
the Xbox ecosystem. They will not give that stuff up if there's an alternative.
And the alternative is like, well, let's figure out a way to
keep it by keeping people by xboxes, or at least the ones that do
keeping them happy. So they will find some way to try to thread that
needle. Whether or not they succeed at that, we'll fucking see, but
they're gonna try. And I always says, does the next Xbox abandon physical
media? Yes? Yeah, probably too, I think so. The problem
is like backward compatibilities, like was such a big thing for them, but
they have sort of put that in the back burner and complete kind of almost
completely forgot about it, forgotten about it. But there will be a lot
of people who, like I have all these discs I wanted to work on
my Xbox and maybe they still sell a separate drive. Yeah. I was
about to say, they're gonna do the PlayStation five thing where you can like
attach it to the console. Yeah, and if all these things have handheld
ones, like the handheld devices obviously won't have disk drives, so it's like
they will be even more digital going forward. I predict that's going to be
a Soliza for a little bit, and then we're going to hear about how
they sell very few of those. Oh yes, you're gonna have to like
order them direct from Microsoft and they'll they're only ever in stock, like once
a year for like five minutes. Yeah, something like that. Yeah,
me and you are both in agreement that we think, because now the rumor
is that Thentendo Direct is going to be a partner direct. We both think
Microsoft is going to show up there, and that's why the timing for this.
I mean, listen, I'm not I'm not going to guarantee it for
people or anything like that, but I definitely think that's what's happening here.
I started that conversation saying, I think it's it's suspicious that the Xbox Business
update had to wait until next week for some reason. Well, that reason
might be their games are going to pop up in a Nintendo Direct. That's
what I'm expecting to Jesse. See, I think I know what that C
stands for, says Hi Mike, Hi Jeff. What are each of your's
favorite WW wrestler currner, old school and your favorite anime? Thank you?
Here's ten bucks, thank you, Jess. My favorite wrestler ever is Sean
Michaels, the Heartbreak Kid. I definitely do like Kenny Omega a lot these
days, though I'm not a giant anime person really. I did really like
the first season of Digimon though, very good stuff when I was a kid.
Wow. Yeah, my favorite wrestler current or old school is probably still
Sting. I really love Sting. I got that's when I got into wrestling,
is when he was being croasting in WCW, and that kind of cheesy
shit is really my jam. Although, hey, I really like Cody Roads
a whole bunch. I'm really enjoying Cody Roads. So yeah, and then
fab anime it means cowboy Bebop. It's kind of like a really easy answer.
That's so easy, I feel like I should offer an alternative, So
I'll go with fully Koolie. Fully Coolies A really good time says, if
you had an unlimited time to play through an entire game series without worrying about
playing new stuff, what would you choose? Mine would be Yakuza. I'm
a sick oh. I think about things like what if I played every Ultima
game, even though like some of those games are ancient and even like like
they're all weird, Like man, no one talks about Ultimate anymore. I
could be the Ultimate guy. That's gonna be my thing. I've been fantasizing
about a misplay through for a while. Also, I would go this is
like really nerdy stuff. But there is this developer who's been kind of mae.
Jeff Vogel is his name. He runs a studio called Spiderwear Software or
Spiderweb Software, and he's been doing that for a very long time, and
he's sort of been making games in the same style for decades, and he
reuses his assets so he's able to just put out these games like one after
the other, like Avidon and at Avernum, like they're in these like our
trilogies, and they they're basically just computer RPGs. But I would like to
just spend time playing all that guy's games, mostly because he's given some really
good GDC speeches and I think he's very cool. Kurt Pyres says, any
idea when we should expect Judas? I know it's Ken Levine games and nobody
hold their breath, but doesn't feel like they'd be releasing trailers if he weren't
eight to twelve months out from this. Now, what are we expecting Judas?
Jeff I Gate to twelve months exactly right. I think we get this
by this holiday. That seems most likely. I can even see it as
a January twenty twenty five joint. Why not? Mikey O'Leary says, can't
believe we discussed that Disney Epic deal and didn't mention they had avatar a part
of the concept art fake fans, but also a random Riskers down Under now,
which blew me away. Wow, I have to see this Rescuers down
Under now, that's incredible. But I mean, of course avatars. They're
like, absolutely avatars, avatars not would like it's definitely its own pillar at
this point, after having two movies make like a billion and a half dollars,
Like, yeah, there they are going to be all in on Disney
in that video game. I wish I could play more. Still, Yeah,
Jesse Norris says, Jeff, you're the best. Mike High just kidding,
you're great too. I personally think that hybrid console solution for Xbox is
the way forward. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, if they
make their own portable doctors console, it's could be great. PlayStation's going to
also make one of those. Yeah, but well, yeah, I get
what you're saying, and you're right that that could maybe eat its lunch once
again. Like we're talking about like the way, you know, people don't
feel they need to go get game passed because they're very happy with PlayStation A
plus or whatever. But PlayStation is almost assuredly going to stick with a MD
and AMD's mobile processors are getting better, uh clearly that that's what's in a
Steam deck and so, and that's that's pretty good actually. But if Microsoft
does the thing and does go with ARM, does go with Nvidia, does
go with Intel, even they could be in a situation where it's like,
yeah, you can have the PlayStation thing that it's and it runs the games
pretty good, but the battery is like an hour and it's it's not the
kind of thing that you're going to be using all the time. The Xbox
handheld could very easily be as powerful, if not more powerful, with a
mobile chip, because the mobile power processors are getting more powerful faster than the
desktop chips are getting more efficient. So Microsoft could have something just as powerful
or more powerful and also have two three four hour battery life, and then
if they look really good in that comparison, maybe they could pull something off.
The bad news for them is Microsoft kind of iffy on hardware. Sony
often very very good at hardware. So like that scenario I laid out,
there's no guarantee that that happens, and Sony could just as easily put great
engineers on it and fix these problems. Thank you to Kevin Elliott for joining
the Hamilton Tire Here on YouTube, Jordan Andrews says, do you think people
will feel different if this Xbox situation turns out to be a year plus exclusivity
on every game? Still? Secondly, is this going to be as bass
people think? Or is there some overreacting? It's two forty five am there,
Hey, good evening or morning, Jordan, Yeah, I mean,
do you think they're going to lay out in pretty clear terms that there's still
going to be a pretty big exclusivity window for Xbox here. Yes, absolutely,
yeah, because that's that's what's happening here. This is not every game
you said it case by case. They're going to say that, and then
the follow up sentence will be like, and if you want to play these
games first, better, best, I mean, honestly, that's what they
said early on, right when they were making these acquisitions, and when they
got Bethesda, that was one of the phrases. It's like, either it's
going to be first on Xbox, better on Xbox, or or exclusive to
Xbox. And it's like that will still be true, and they'll ride that
point home and the exclusivity window will be probably about a year for most of
these games. Indiana Jones is the one where they're like, oh, that
could come out a couple months later. But that one was I think originally
supposed to be day and date on both consoles, and then Microsoft negotiated an
exclusivity window. It seems like, so that one's not going to be one
to be able to point to and be like, that's going to happen with
all these games robot. Jim says, y'all are great. Just wanted to
say I like my Xbox series s. It's a great upgrade from a regular
PS four. As Sinbet says, shinente compass of your heart. Probably so
that wrong. I think my series excels a bunch too. Absolutely hardware.
I know, like Dan Reichert was one of the people I was thinking about
once, like he just likes playing games on his Xbox and he's not thinking
about any of this shit. He just prefers the Xbox right now, and
he preferred the PlayStation four last generation. So for those people, just like,
just keep playing your Xbox. Georgie says, I fought this war for
no reason. Phil is a trader. This is the guy who's sad that
thing about the girlfriend. Remember sure. Georgie also says, better, I
see Phil Stewart booty resignation next week. Well I don't think that's happening,
No, probably not, probably not, But I mean they're definitely feeling the
heat. I mean that that's undeniable that this is happening because they're not making
enough money. They need to make more money. So if you are so
invested into this that you have opinions about who should be running that company.
Then hey, this might be the moment where eventually that does break. But
as it stands, they're not going to be announcing their retirement next week or
anything like that. One here is from Jesse against is bring back Breath of
Fire. Yeah, they should maybe do something with breath That was in the
survey as well. Right, Yeah, remix are probably gonna be what happens
there, especially if three or four Uh, it's hard, like what does
a new Breath of Fire look like these days? Can you put persona kind
of money into that? Uh, they'll be a hard time figuring out final
fantasy in some ways. Right, So now you're going to bring back beth
of Fire? Make that work? I don't know. I hope so that
would be neat. Hopefully you can do better than that mobile game, which
I think as of now is the last Breath of Fire release. Is Breath
of Fire? Not? Is that the Squerenix or Capcom? It's Capcom?
Okay, this Capcom. So it is what I saw in that survey.
Okay, thank you. Yeah it's rough, Yeah, yeah it is.
I'm sorry if I said something there, No, No Georgie said, kids
move Tim dog Claw, Brill left Phil is a failure? What okay,
what's Tim Dogg? Tim Dogg is one of these? All those all three
of them are Xbox like fan accounts on Twitter that like through a lot of
cheerleading and like cloud Real colob Real does like a lot of like here's an
image of all the Xbox exclusives. Uh, and it looks like an official
marketing image, and they like put out there and then Xbox like real Xbox
executive accounts or leadership accounts will retweet these things like they're kind of pillars in
the community, but there they also could be very very jumpy and toxic to
some degree, and uh and Microsoft is embraced them. And now it's like,
hey, you're kind of bathing in the bath and the dishwater that you
made there and you got to deal with it. Okay. So they have
they have all, they're all, I mean, they have all voiced discontent.
I'm I'm glad I didn't know they were. Oh yeah, no,
you're You're a much better person for not knowing who they were. Like absolutely,
Lurk Girkin says, is Microsoft becoming soft? Sony and Nintendo are out
here dropping sock bombs and Microsoft like, I'll have an olduls please. I
think that they are. So we talked about Napoleon to Dan Reicherts, So
I'm ready to drop some Napoleon references. Are you ready, Mike? I
think I think Microsoft is realizing the way to win in some scenarios is maybe
to retreat and like live to fight another day and let them chase you a
little bit and find find your window of opportunity. I think Microsoft has enough
money to because otherwise you fucking lose to Napoleon is what I found out trying
to fight the fucker, You're just gonna lose. So yeah, I think
that they're like, hey, every time we try to go head to head,
we kind of beef it. We need to we need to regroup.
We need to think about what we have that we do well, and we
need to play to those strengths, and then we need to find ways to
amplify those strengths. And right as they stand today, they don't have a
lot of great opportunities to do that because game Pass is sort of tapped out.
That was the plan, it's it's kind of it's zenith. Maybe they
can find new ways to grow. It's that's exactly what we're talking about here.
It's gonna take a couple of years for them to figure out what a
new strategy fully looks like. And in the moment, they're like, we
got to make as much money as we can to keep making this stuff all
makes sense. So yeah, this is not them going away. This is
in finding a new way to fight. The new way of fighting just may
not look like how you want it to look. And I'm sorry if that's
the case. Eco Coola says, well, Halo ever be as big as
it once was. Again, I hate sitting there saying never, but I
still think that Halo if. And it was actually a very good video game.
Every time I play it, I love I fucking love that game.
That's a great game. And yeah, and it didn't do much right yeap.
In fact, people generally associate it with kind of bad things. It
has like a negative reaction to most people. And it's all about it's it's
the content because at a certain point we get to this place where it's like
sitting down and having fun playing a game with your friends for a couple of
weeks is not acceptable. If you say you're a live service game, you
better come with the content, and it never did. Yeh. So,
I mean, I don't know if they're gonna get in a position where cuddinly
they can. People say it's in a great spot now, yes, sounds
a great so not but not many people are playing it exactly exactly yes,
uh, Jirostin, I mean, yeah, it's great. I wish more
people were putting it. Jir Austin says, I feel for the people here
the hashtag Xbox cry babies. It will be okay, I promise, just
ask Roman Reigns. He got his way totally epic open world, said Microsoft
to announced ABK games on game Pass next week. I guess that could be
kind of the bright side thing, like look at all these old Activision Blizzard
games gonna be on game Pass. Certainly we're gonna even give you those Transformer
games you thought you weren't gonna get. Ye I don't know, yep,
definitely, pretty dude says I don't know if it's funny or sad that places
your fans got Xbox games before a Bloodborne remakes last. That's that's funny.
Actually Yep, yeah, I don't know. I still don't know, Like
I said, it was always like from software just wanting to be involved in
that. And I don't know what's preventing them from being involved in that.
Maybe they are at this point, I don't know. Trentendo says, if
Xbox Sense games to switch, is it only recent slash new releases or do
they go deeper into the back catalog. I hope they go deeper in the
back catalog. I hope we get rare replay, like you know how put
Crack Down three on switch? I never got to play that. Put it
on the switch too, and I'll play Crack three this time, I promise,
Yeah, Down three put even they put someone like the older Forts of
Horizons on switch, that'd be foul that. You know, the issue there
is the licensing of the vehicles, so they would probably have a difficult time
with that. But all the other examples, you're right, You're right.
I hope that they look much further back than what we're talking about. I
don't know what would stop them from doing that, And maybe they have some
math. They're like, people aren't talking about these things anymore, so they
just wouldn't sell very well. And I suppose we see like even for like
a PlayStation five game like sack Boy that can come to Steam and no one
cares, and maybe that wasn't worth the effort. But I don't know.
I just make something matter by telling us it matters and treating it like a
big deal, and that could be cool. Give us rise Son of Rome.
Finally and speaking finally, last one here for no Georgie says, can't
wait for this plan to backfire. Phil will lose the hardcore and Xbox sales
will drop even further. We'll loll at Phil resignation. Absolute con man.
He capitalized the armed resignation, so it looks like his name to be Phil
Resignation, Phil resignation. Hey, it'll be all right, Georgie, plan
my backfire. Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a lot of great
games coming out, Like there's like there's great games still coming out all the
time everywhere. I mean, I don't know what to tell you guys.
If like I get at you're anxious and all this stuff, but like,
yeah, go play a game. But like I see people responding about,
hey that this, you know, you don't play on console like the normal
person does, and it's just like I don't know what to tell you.
Guys, I've been saying for ten years the way games have been made from
these big companies has been unsustainable. That's been the theme of this show basically
since we fucking started it, and things coming to a head for Xbox while
you look over at PlayStation and they're not putting out a lot of games either,
Like, what do you guys think is happening right now? That happened,
And so if you are interested in playing games, go fucking find the
video games that you want to play. They're out there, I promise,
They're just not always coming from companies called Sony and Microsoft. They're everywhere.
So just except that, like things have changed is my best piece of advice
to everybody, because you can find a lot of happiness and gaming still if
you just go look for it outside of where we have been getting it for
thirty years. I get it's hard to change habits, and maybe it's so
hard that gaming isn't for you anymore. I also think that that's perfectly okay
if you were invested in Xbox so hard that them changing their strategy kind of
poisons the whole thing for you. I respect that. I understand that to
a point. I'm a very loyal person as well. If Nintendo changed things
up to a certain degree, I would be very sad. So I get
that. But if you are, if you are still interested in playing games,
they're out there, just go find them. We should all just get
dreamcasts and retro tanks. And that sounds a great time. That sounds so
good to me. Get that real fun. Everybody needs a Cuba Bar in
their life. Yeah, I'll be playing Cuba Bar. It's only five hundred
bucks. Probably the price is probably down dramatic li since I bought it.
That's it for the superchats for now. Thanks too, all so much obviously
a lot of super chats. Yeah, everybody, I really appreciate. If
you want to send in more, we will read them, even the ones
that get Jeff shoot Hot, Baby shoot Hot. Oh. Here's one write
now from Hum drum Dog Go two one one says it's their fault, bro,
they launched tailor forts a red fall in trash States in Zero Games and
Zero Games twenty two two. Stop blaming fans. I just stop making him
shoot hot. It's Phil and Booty's fault are But like I'm not, Yeah,
it is fill Yeah, of course they should. They should have made
better video games. I think it's weird that anybody takes anything that you say
as like some defensive executives there. I don't know, right, yeah,
but like why don't we I really have a hard time understanding like blaming fans.
I'm just explaining to you what's happening, that's all. I don't think
there's no blaming of fans. Is just saying that the calm down. Nobody's
Yeah, definitely not they could trust me as as we learned today, the
Xbox fans sure did try their darkness. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, they
did everything. Yeah, maybe it is hard for sure, but like they
they should not have released Redfall like that. They should have had more content
for Halo, of course. And if those guys have, like I think
we just got done saying like this could be the beginning of the end for
Phil and that Booty and absolutely could. We'll say, you know, maybe,
yeah, maybe if they were going to talk up star our Field the
way that they did, they just generational game, maybe they should have.
You know, again, Starfield's not a bad game, but you know,
I don't know if they really believed in it that much. And that we
just don't agree or if they were trying to kind of make it that game,
right, if they knew it wasn't, but it wasn't. And let's
just to reiterate, this is the strategy failing like that is what has happened
here. Like that's where I thought that, Like that, we started this
conversation by saying that that they were going to keep all these games exclusive to
Xbox compared to PlayStation, you know, PC. Notwithstanding they were going to
keep these games off of PlayStation. They they decided to do that with Starfield,
they were going to do that with Elder Scroll six. I've seen the
map, like I've said a bunch of times, I've seen the paperwork where
they looked at this and they looked at all the options and the like,
we'll lose a lot of money if we do this, but we think it'll
be worth it because of the growth and our strategy will work in all these
other ways that has failed. So they are shifting gears because they have failed,
and so they're trying something else. Okay, if they get they get
fired. I mean, listen, that's just not my job to fire them.
I don't know like that, if they could try the strategy, it
works or it doesn't and you could be happy with it or not be happy
with it. I don't see whether other options are available to us. Remember
when when when we were the Xbox fan boys and the Sony haters because you
like said something mean about Jim Ryan once, yeah, like returnal and I
had like some Xbox leaks, so people just assumed, yeah, it was
great, it was great. Good stop. We did get a few more.
Actually it's snuck in here to Tenderrek says, thank you everybody. Kind
of weird to see people complaining about a lack of games after twenty twenty three,
when the best years in gaming ever give up all the good work,
guys that gets under Yeah, I mean January also just just insane. So
it's been a NonStop for me. Yeah, just incredible bangers. Prince of
Persia not that long ago when the best game taking me a long time.
Incredible. Daniel Falconeer says pessimistic about Xbox as a Microsoft fan, but look
at Sony games on PC now. Marathon announced for Xbox might just be the
way of the industry. Yeah, I mean, hey, look like just
because the placers new fans feel like, uh like they won something here Sony's
gonna have the same issues with the future of consoles and what that's going to
mean, and how that's going to compete with what PC games are, and
how expensive it is to makings and how difficult it is to run. Their
audience is not getting that much bigger, Like it's not. It just isn't
like. Their audience is not growing and their costs are growing unsustainable. Again,
it's just what's happening. So, yes, there will be a reckoning
for everybody involved, and Nintendo's finding some ways to make it work by keeping
costs down. That's how they're doing it. Uh. Derochi says, I
wish my last name was Booty. We all know, we all do.
Absolutely, Yeah, be Travin says Starfield is a bad game. Jesse Norris
says Starfield is a good game. Great even so we'll let those two figure
that out. Yeah, exactly. You guys have a conclaven, come back
and let us know what you decide. I'm drum dog two to one once
is uh, I don't care not playing hopefully too avowed or any of Jones.
Xbox is dead to me, all right to you here, you're allowed
to have that opinion. Mikey Oleary says, but what does all this Xbox
news mean for Tommy tallerco? Yeah, very proud of him. What does
he come back out of hiding? I should have happen eventually, right,
I think we know that he's the kind of person that can't stay hidden forever.
So we'll see probably by probably by next month, I'll say, and
put video here, says, if we keep sending super chats, maybe Jeff
will fall asleep on stream, maybe fucking maybe, and put vibes here or
video here. She give me a medosas thank you Phil for best chief on
Switch to It returns. I'm happy to share the cheapy rebo zip last year
to ext the best of the cheepy robos, nothing but the best for Phil.
And then uh, Kevin says, would you play Lost Odyssey if they
came to Switch? Oh? That was that's like number one now, Kevin,
Oh, I play Lost odysty and Switch immediately. That would rule it
up. God, if we even did a little work and it was like
a remaster, just like a little sprucing up, that would be Amazing'd be
cool. How what do Blue drag it all? So? Why the I'm
generous Matt Rare Monkey says PlayStation can grow from all the Xbox fans. Now,
yeah, maybe maybe you don't what you want to know the secret though
most of them already have PlayStations. They already have them, Matt, they
have them. Come on, all right, I think for real, Sy,
that's it for now with the Super Jets. We will read the rest
later, but we're gonna take up break. We're gonna play a game or
two. I'm not sure will we have ready today. I We'll be right
back. I don't know why I'm doing that. This is it's all coming
apart everybody, and we're back and we're gonna do best Games of twenty fourteen,
although I think we are. We have started getting more supert do twenty
fourteen. Last time, listen, I didn't update this someone. I thought
that I saw twenty fourteen minus one, Mike, But no, you haven't
done twenty the best talk about Ray Legends. But maybe I was thinking of,
oh, there's a port okay, never mind. No, we're good.
We're good. I'm sorry. Best Games of twenty fourteen here's what we
do. We discussed the best games of the year. Me and Mike pick
the five best and we rank them. We get input from our podcast producers
and people who drop super chats, so feel free to do that as well.
You get thrown out in chat as well. Well. You know,
it always helps if you're reminded of something that we're missing. Yes, Mikey,
where are we going to start? When it comes to twenty fourteen,
I'm weird. It was this one of the weird years. This is like
the weird year in terms of the best thing. That Dragon Age Inquisition one
the weird wars. And I remember thinking, I don't necessarily disagree, but
that's a weak year to yes, exactly, And I guess we could talk
about Dragon Eagecquisition, which I think is a good video game. I don't
think there's much about it, but I think back on a lot. I
think it did a good job of keeping some of the streamlined combat from Dragon
h two but making into a game that felt bigger than that obviously small skill
game. I don't think the skill is still nearly as good as Dragon Age
Origins, and I don't think the role playing is nearly as good as in
Dragon Age Origins, but it was definitely an improvement. There's obviously a lot
of people who still like that game a lot. It's it's fine for me.
Well, then the other game that won Game of the Year from some
outlets was, uh the Mortar. What's the fucking name of that game?
That was the Nemesis System. Yeah, Shadow of Mordor. I really liked
it at the time, and over time I've been like, did I like
that? And then whenever I think about it, the answer is, yes,
that is a good video game. I just for some reason don't put
it into my top echelon. Like when I was doing my top one one,
I don't think I considered it. Yeah, I know what you mean.
I didn't even I don't know why, but I didn't consider it.
You're right, But like I liked it a lot, but even when the
sequel came out, and the sequel was largely more the same, I kind
of barely played it right exactly. Yeah, so that definitely listen. Twenty
fourteen might be a week year. We'll see as we get into more of
it. Maybe there's a lot of stuff I'm not thinking about yet. Jesus
fucking Christ, Mario Kart eight came out twenty fourteen, so yeah, we'll
definitely consider it for now. I think that is a It's still a very
good game and probably was my game of the year at the time if I
can't because I can't remember my list exactly, but I probably probably gave it
to that game. So it's oh yeah, man, Bravely. Default had
come out in every other territory before twenty fourteen, but North America did not
get it till twenty fourteen. I like really Default a lot. It's you
know, it has the final Fantasy five job system pretty directly. I thought
it had some really fun characters. I know some people think the back half
is kind of repetitive, but there is a reason for it, and there's
kind of a fun pay off to that. Very good music though, incredible
soundtrack, one of my favorites. So yeah, lots of love for Barely
Default from me. Can I ask you a question, Mike, No hard
yet Stone. Oh, I'll just stay it as a statement. Then Hearthstone.
Herstone was this year, fucking twenty fourteen, ten years ago. I
love Harstone. I played Harstone regularly for like six seven years. It's weird
because, like, when you play one of these games, sometimes all you
take away is that I don't play that anymore. Even though I played it
regularly for at least six years. It's insane. I even got to reveal
some cards. I had a lot of fun with Harstone throughout its run.
I even have some friends who are playing it again. I almost like feel
the call to go back there. It is still getting support, it is
still going. That is impressive. I still think it is the best of
all the digital card games that we ever got. There's like that very good
Magic one, but Harstone was made for this four bet in a way that
Magic just never was and still feels a little bit better to me. And
early, even right away, Harstone was a ton of fun. Even like
Vanilla was just the first couple expansions. I thought those sets were all good.
They had a pretty good way of adding new mechanics for a while.
It took, of course, eventually it got convoluted. It kind of took
a while, and when that happened, they made new modes like battleak grounds
of things that kept it interesting. I love Harpstone. Harstone's great. You
know what going up for consideration. The one game that I'm like pretty dead
set on is titan Fall. I Fall won this year. Yeah, titan
Fall, we would have been like the immediate year after the launch of the
Xbox One, right, it wasn't there day one, but basically in that
launch window in the beginning of twenty fourteen, I had a three to sixty
four Yes, got from Blue Point titan Fall. I think I spent about
twelve hundred to fifteen hundred hours on that multiplayer mode. I mean there only
is the multiplayer mode. Love titan Fall. It is very good in some
ways. I think the titan Fall one multiplayer is better than the titan Fall
two multiplayer. A lot of it is taste like getting titan Fall two just
tries to change things up to like keep things moving in certain ways, and
it's it's smart in a lot of ways. But I think in terms of
just raw having a good time, I think I prefer titan Fall one in
the multiplayer mode, and that was. Yeah, it's a great, great,
great game. I definitely played more of titan Fall one's multiplayer. I
played a ton of it. It was a lot of them. Maybe the
last time I really played a console shooter like a lot like that, and
I squad of everything. It kind of felt like like if that started with
modern warfare. This kind of felt like the going away party for that really
really interesting and good point. Yes, that's exactly how I feel about that,
And there was a spectacle to it because of the scale of the Titans.
Yeah, titan Fall one was fantastic. I love it. Sorry,
just Nick's super chat hashtag lock fill up. Alright, let's let's relax,
everybody. I don't think he's going to jail. Probably not prob. I
know, it's like, I know, it's disgusting that, like an idiot
Joe's game was gonna be on placeation, but right, oh my god,
right, it's it's just an immoral it's not a criminal. Sorry, everybody,
Like how we're like doing our fun, Like what were the best games
of twenty fourteen? There's still some people like somebody's gonna do something, Spencer.
I'm assuming that Nick's having some fun here because that one's too funny before.
But that's great. Oh, south Park The Stick of Truth was actually
fantastic. That's a great game. It was cool to kind of just be
at this time where like, not that South Park is the most high fidelity
thing in the world, but like, oh yeah, we could just make
the game look exactly like that show, and it has that the paper Mario
style combat in a fun way. It did a really good job like integrating
all these different south Park characters, and because it was just those people,
it felt just like that. And I was out a point where south Park
was pretty funny, and the game is also very funny. It's it's funny,
and it's it does the thing that I'm appreciating when as I'm playing like
a Dragon Infinite Wealth. I like games that are set in the real world
and the fantasy is happening in the character's heads. So there's like this this
abstract layer between you and the fantasy, and it's it almost makes it feel
more fantastical and more fun, and like the things that are happening can like
anything can happen, like uh and and I think south Park really was one
of the earlier games to nail that tone, and they did it does a
really good job with that. So yeah, I like I like that game
a whole bunch. Yeah. Yeah, definitely still one of the better licensed
games ever released. Probably Let's I did have another one. I were Oh,
Nitthog, Mike, have you ever played Nithog? I'm not played Nidthog.
I Nitthog is especially as someone who's been into fighting games recently, Nidhog
is like a reduced to like fighting, Like every of the both characters are
the exact same. It's all just about trying to get to one side of
the screen by defeating your opponent in a series of battles and their sword battles,
and you got to pick high, lower, medium, and you can
throw your sword and you can jump over them, and it's like, you
know this basic move set and then from there how that plays out is so
thrilling, so exciting. During the bomiton, I got into a probably like
twenty minute like one match with Austin Welker that was just so so fun.
It was such a good time, and I've had multiple matches like that in
my time playing didhog is It's just like a pure game. It's like so
well designed that I kind of wouldn't change anything about it. Here's a big
one, actually, I think maybe in retrospect what I would probably have called
game of the year, Shovel Knight, came out at twenty fourteen. JET
Oh hell yeah. Shovel Knight is a wonderful game of all the games where
it's like we're gonna make our own indie A bit style game. It's by
far the best. It feels so good. It does bring in all these
mechanics from things like Mega Man and Castlevania, even Ducktails, but still feels
really unique, just incredibly well crafted levels, a ton of fun power ups,
really good bosses, and then eventually it just gets all these expansions that
are just as good, incredible what this package eventually became. But even from
the beginning, tons of fun. I love Shovel Night. Yeah, I
echo all that. I adore Shovel Night. I really like that. I
think you were like an early cheerleader. Now. I was always like,
of course I'm gonna like this game, but then hearing how much you liked
it, I got in there and I was like, Yep, this is
fantastic. Also a bunch of people in chatter saying you would like Nidthog,
and I'd rather he not because I think he would be really, really good
at it. I don't need that in my life. I don't need that
for you. Let me live. But yes, I'm right there for Shovel
Night. Couple of other questions, Mike Destiny, how do you feel about
that? Yeah, it's weird. I did like Destiny one, it was
fun. I liked the raid. It just it always seemed to have like
one problem that would be annoying at a time, and then that when the
Taking King expansion came out, that's when it finally felt like a really good
hole. But then they rebooted with Destiny two and then there's kind of new
problems but better improvements. So I know Destiny has always been in a weird
place for me. Uh, the other question, and then we can maybe
if you don't have anything else immediately, and if you do, we can
get to that. We can go to the podcast producers. But the other
one would be Super Smash Brothers for Nintendo three DS and WEU I think this
was my game of the year at the time because back then I didn't know
that we were just going to get a better version of it on the switch,
right. Yeah, So that's kind of the weird thing. So I'm
kind of like, well, what do I do here? I don't really
I almost don't feel like this need to like prop it up when it was
good and part of it for me, I don't I really don't mean to
start another fight here is because it felt so much better to me. Than
Brawl did, and it had really good characters in it, like Mega,
like began Man obviously, but I don't know, this just doesn't seem like
a very exciting pick because again, we're just gonna get a better version of
that in five years or whatever. Okay, and do you have anything else
you want to bring up as I'm bringing up the podcast producers. No,
I'm trying. I'm looking through this list one by one and I'm in like
December right now. I'm not sure. If I see anything super crazy jumping
out at me at the moment, maybe can start going through. I might,
Like I didn't put Mario Kart eight up there, I might do that
because that probably does make sense, and it is still that game. It
is still that game. Yeah. I mean the lux is better for sure,
but it's just you know, an enhanced version. Right. Let me's
here, I'm getting the community. I mean, even on you. I
think that game manch is sell eight million copies, which is for a system
that sold like twelve or fourteen million. That is the hardware bananas. That
is. Yeah. One of the incredit mostly oh man. One of the
most incredible tidbits of factoids about gaming, ever, is like, how well
that game's sold on a terrible selling system. All Right, I have the
podcast producers and we'll start here with Wolvenstein The New Order man. Okay,
well, yes, we could definitely consider that I love this game, that
I like the way wolfin steined. The New Order plays better than the New
Colossus in terms of like upgrading your guns and all that stuff. It's just
better in this game, and yet it's it still has so many of those
great characters, some of the best scenes in the history of gaming. Jimmy
Hendricks like, if you haven't seen that, feel free to just go look
it up and watch those scenes. It's so incredible. It is one of
those games where it's like, Okay, yeah, I'm not a story in
games person unless I just deeply, deeply fall in love with your characters,
and then I get everything everyone's always said about how much they love story in
games, and this is one of those ones that totally won me over.
On that. Nick Turbo says Dragon Age Inquisition. Did I say, Dan
Fiasco said the Wolf It's in a New Order? Dan Fiasco dropped that one.
Let's see, uh, Tommy Pencil says shovel Knight Alex Gogo says destiny.
Uh. Rex rex Vex says god, what is this called? That
little non Euclidean mobile game? Oh? The one from Freaking uh the one
from House of Cards, A House of Cards? Yes, Monument Valley,
thank you, Brian, the House of Cards game. Yeah. Well,
I feel like very I feel like very really on in GamesBeat, I had
to write about House of Cards in this game. Oh I'm sure. Yeah.
The guy that that character in House of Cards is based on is the
guy that wrote the book about the room that that that that movie was the
adaptation was eventually based on. It's weird. Monument Valley was very good.
I liked Monument Monument Valley a lot. You never played it, I don't.
I think I played a little bit, so I played nothing crazy.
It's very much like, Hey, that's one of the good ones when it
comes to mobile games. Is how I always spoken about it. Jamie H.
Christmas Eve says A realm reborn? Wait, Mike, did that come
out in twenty fourteen? Oh my god? That is right, isn't it
so? Well? I played on twenty thirteen. No, but yeah this
came out twenty fourteen. Oh no, no, no, it originally came
out twenty thirteen windows and placeation three first. Okay, did I miss it
last year? Because that's last year. Yeah, you should have been number
one. I love a real reborm. But can we say you like the
final fantasy slot for one of our child ringers come, I might have actually
consider some some expansions here. Maybe it's our blood course we talk about.
I mean for time about expansions. I think, is this the year that
uh Reaper of Souls for Diabo three came out and made that game good?
It is? It is? It is? It is that year. Yeah,
that's good. That's well. You know, let's not see anyone mentions
that because if, if, if it does, we'll see. Uh this
is what was gonna be when I was gonna ask you about Mike from Low
Rule, Donkey Kong Country, Tropical Freeze. Now, I know we are
not the biggest lovers of this game. I do still think it is a
good game. Though I also think it's a good game. I think it
is slightly overrated, perhaps not in some big way, in some I want
to like present my hot takeaway. I just think it is maybe ever so
slightly overrated, but I do like it and I wouldn't be upset about considering
it. Yeah, I think I'm mostly on board with what you just said.
Uh okay, Flobotron says middle Gear Solid five Ground Zeros. This is
the precursor game, right, This is kind of like the not quite a
demo, more of like a prologue. Prologue. Yeah, very good,
very fun to play. I just have a hard time not thinking about just
how weird they had to make the stuff with Paz and Chico in this because
they made it real weird, real dark graphic upsetting. Yeah, so maybe
that's a me problem. But it is very fun. But look, it
is like this. It is a small thing. Yep, let's see here.
Leely Woe li Wo says Mario. Kart eight definitely up for consideration.
CRNG just mcbasketball says Shadow of Mordor. Cromulent Eden says Hearthstone joy Ze is
this Bayonetta two? Bayonetta two? Right? Is uh? She said someone
fighting on the back of a jet? Was that really? Yes? Is
that really? Twenty fourteen? Yep? Holy shit, band of two fucking
rules. Yes, we better consider Boneta two. Then we are going to
get here. You're right there, it is all right, Yeah, we'll
consider banet A two two is hot shit. I like that game with the
whole bunch uh Corley Pho says Titan Fall, Bobo Bops Pop to See Bob
Fin Rebop says South Park, The Stick of Truth, Cass Buckerusso's Chante and
the Pirates Curse. I like that game. Oh that's yeah, that's the
one I've actually played all the way through. I think most people do say
it's the best one actually, and yeah, it's actually very it is very
good. I like it. I almost wish it was even more of a
metro Vinia than it is, even though he is in a lot of ways.
It kind of like stops and tries to do like, hey, like
explore the town so Castlevania two stuff every now and then, which is fine.
But Chante is always fun. I don't know if it's like top five
material for me, but I like this game. Casual says Pokemon Omega Rupee
and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire. Yeah, they're fine, they're fine, They're they're
they're well done remakes. They don't light my world on fire or anything.
Two time Champ avoiding the band Hammer says super Smash Brothers for we you uh
Slain says Divinity Original Sin and I never touched this one. I played Divinity
Original Sin too, though, of course. Yeah, they're pretty good,
but it's not Original Sin too. I feel like this is like like a
good bass game. Is it like Witcher to Witcher two or Witch or two
to Witcher three. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense.
It's Switcher two to Witch or three. Okay, you know, I'm I
always hear good things about this game, but yeah, it seems like it
really popped off with the sequel. Bench JC says Skylanders Trap Team man,
I wish I could just play through Skylanders as actually that is legit. Yes,
I mean how many of those were There were a lot of this.
There was one per year for like at least five years, probably more.
And there's a ton of toys, that's what that's I would want all the
toys and stuff and the Pedestal of Power whatever the fuck they called that.
I think about Skylanders freaks me out. It's like we had this weird Spirro
spin off that got to a point where here's a game Spiral's not even in
this picture, and it was like this big part of the industry, and
then it just went away that everybody was just like, never mind, We're
over it. And that's just what this industry is like sometimes. I mean,
it is fucking Bobby Kottak finding a vein to mine and mining it until
there is nothing left and except for a toxic lake. But by the way,
what what is going on with Toys for Bob? Did they really close
that? So the here's what we know. They were definitely some of the
people were definitely laid off as part of those nineteen hundred jobs that were lost.
It doesn't seem like it was the whole team, but they're all there's
their physical offices have been closed. And then some people say this looks like
they are either going to close the studio and have everyone be absorbed into other
studios or become like a support team, or other people are saying that they've
just gone fully remote. I'm likeugh, either way, I don't like the
way that sounds or looks. No, I mean, do you even know
what's going on with that crash competitive game that they made? Is that like
still getting new seasons? Like I assume that did nothing for them. I
mean, I'm sure it did nothing for them. Yeah, but man,
I don't know. It's let those people make their good three D platformers.
They were so good at it. Just let them do that, right,
Like the government should force these companies at maybe at gunpoint, like go Bobbykottock's
office with you when he was still in charge, and just like you have
to make some games, just basically PS two games. Just make five games
that are like a PS two game every year, and toys or Bob would
be great at that. Lash four so good, and they did the Spiral
reag nitel. Just let them make Spiral Floor Crash five. Just let them
work on those series forever. I mean, Microsoft, you own them.
Now, let them fucking make Banjo. Let's start joking around, or let
them make Crash your freaking Spiro. I mean, you have a lot of
options. Do something, Doctor Ryan says the wolf among us. I never
touched this one. I played quite a bit of the Telltale games, and
I know people love this one, but I just I knew it was based
on a comic that I had no affinity for, and I think that kept
me out. Yeah, I was. I was done with Telltale games.
Yes, what you were? Uh? Willow Davis says Halo the Master Chief
Collection. I mean it got it got there after a very long time,
but it was not fourteen. I've had a lot of problems when it launched.
Beautiful Zoom, says Octo Dad. Dadles Catch, which is like maybe
my favorite game of that year, but I don't need to put it in
the best of game of the year, if that makes sense. I adore
Octo Dad. It means a lot to me. Fusion says PT. I
think you are the like you have less patience for wanting to put this playable
trial on a list like this, right, Yeah, I don't know part
of his society, Like I haven't played PT, and you know how it
is like, you don't play this thing and all you know is that it's
like forty five minutes and you hear everyone talk about it like it's Jesus.
Of course I find it abrasive for some reason. That's a meat problem.
If you really think PT is that incredible over some of these other games,
we can I think it's worth considering, but we'll see. I think it'll
probably have a tough time. It is so good. Every other horror game
is PT now. Everything else is trying to be PT now. Yes to
this day ten years later, The Tech and Will five says Dark Holes Too.
Me and Mike are not Dark Souls guys. No, even amongst the
dark Sel guys, no Lottom, not all of them. Think too is
the weakest. Yes, yes one, I'm sorry, farmer guys. Video
is like the full defensive Dark Souls too. I haven't watched that one yet.
But Crisis says Sunset Overdrive. I like this game. I don't love
it. Here's a game that I will, maybe in a hot takey way,
say overrated. I played do this whole thing. It's fine. I
played this whole thing too, and I thought I was like that parts of
her fun and I was occasionally kind of bored. Okay, okay, I
just want to clarify something. I liked Dark Souls too. I think they
said awesome game. I just like compared to the Old Souls. I think
it's true that is good. Yeah. But yeah, I like Sound Set
Our Drive. It's a game that I would have never thought about again if
other people don't bring it up. Hosp says Shadows of Mordor always be Clothing.
Slash Corky says Transistor. I'm like Transition Sound track of Transistory is so
good. Trans sound it is very good. I didn't really get into it.
I didn't really try it much because I just remember being people being like,
it's not as good as their last game, and it was they disappointed
to a lot of people. I got. I got oddly annoyed that everybody
in the game sounded sleepy, like they they took like that cozy voiceover from
Bastian too far and applied to every character, and it was like every character
in that game was on ambing or something, and it kind of drove me
crazy. Hey, they adjusted over time and eventually did one of the best
games ever made in Hay, which has a great cast across the board.
And some of them are sleepy and some of them aren't, which is how
you're suppot to make the game good mix. Uh, mister Bowler says,
Rusty's real tal baseball. You can't buy this game anymore, And I wonder,
I wonder how it works if you were to get it off of let's
say hypothetical thing called the h Shop. Uh. And you because like part
of the game is you talk to Rusty so much that he will lower the
price of unlocking the games elsewhere. My god, I just messed up the
wear eyes in this thing. And so it's like, you, this might
be a game that it's just kind of lost the time. I don't know
if it works at all anymore. But boy, I like Rusty's Real Deal
Baseball a very interesting game. One of those games. It's like, it's
so interesting that I love it. I don't really care how it plays necessarily.
Sure, uh Velocity Prime one says, shovel night DMC depressed me crying
has uhs I actually did mean to bring this up. I love this game.
I know that played at Robobot gets most of the love for the two
three DS Kirby games. I remember playing through this and being like Kirby's back
man, like, I had an amazing time. I thought that the three
D, even though it's just a two D game, the three stuff was
actually pretty fun. They did some fun things with it. Yeah. This
this felt to me like the first sequel to Kirby Superstar in a lot of
ways. It felt a lot like that. Again. I know that the
Wii one was kind of there and this is based on that a lot,
but this one really gave me those vibes. Again. I am I have
Triple Dux, I still have never played it. Honestly, looking at this
gift, I should play this. This looks incredible. Oh. JD.
Camp says jazz Punk man, I love jazz punk. Jazz Punk is kind
of a comedic walking sim is like doing it a disservice. There's like a
lot going on there is like gameplay, but it's like this world where it's
all like robots and you go in there and you solve puzzles and you talk
to characters and it's really weird and strange and funny. Jazz Punk is very
cool. That would be a good game to play on stream sometimes, Mike,
people would like to watch you play that. I think, uh Leah,
who's at it again? Says pt E. Zipsis says Alien Isolation.
Cool game. I don't know if I need to consider it for top five.
It's a good game. Mitsurugi says Valiant Hearts The Great War. I
never played mess a game people talked about a lot at that time, and
I played a little bit of it. It was a game of its time.
Yeah, it was a game of its time. It's neat. YEP
showed you. Koto says Titan Fall Michael Riley also says pt Hamlet of Texas
is Legend of grim Rock two. Oh gosh, there's another game that's Yeah.
Yeah, we're we're very deep into just lots of indie game territory and
they were once popular, the o the place. It's funny to like,
oh, here's the ones we still talk about, and here are the ones
that not only can highly forgotten. But I haven't thought about Legend of grim
Rock too, or this next one a lot lately. Yeah, loof Brousers,
which I I love. I think it's got really I like the look.
It's a good game, but I just love the look. And yeah,
but no one, You're right, no one talks about that one.
Like Binding of Isaac Rebirth I think came out this year. That one people
still talk about, Like that one's still like in love. It's in constant
rotation for a lot of people. Yeah, the besties, right, Yeah,
besties like it. But I think it's like, I think it's got
a decent number of like Concurrence on Steam all the time. We'll always playing
it. Lenny Cool Dick Denver says Wolfenstein the New Order, Uh, and
I'm down with that, oh man, Clink, says jack Box Party Pack.
This is the first one, the first party pack that they released.
Man, I haven't played you Don't Know Jack just straight up in a while.
It's fine. We should do that sometime. Yeah, we definitely should
be fun if we should. I want to play some you Don't Know Jack
to be good. Yeah, we should. We could. We'll find out
a like up have to have a fun you can do. You can do
like a UPF four. You played this and like the Reef Tracks game some
of them. Yeah, just all those games that'd be great. I was
like a big og you don't Know Jack fan, Like I would play those
original CD ROMs all the time with my brothers. Like you played on one
keyboard, one press P to get in. They want to prosecute a buzz
in. Yeah, I liked the Man you Don't Know Jack was like a
surprisingly huge series early on. I was superd of that. Actually it was
yeah, funny, super super harmon, says Captain Toad Treasure Tracker. This
is why I, you know, I know what kept them today is I
played here and there ever played through it and I still want to at some
point same Adam GC says Banetta two, which is a fantastic game. Doominal
Crossing says Donkey Kong Country, Tropical Freeze. Sarahs Kane says Drive Club.
I know Drive Club has its fans. Isaac Clark says Rusty's real deal.
Baseball Next says Tropical Freeze screaming Madden has a freedom planet but also found a
way to photoshop John Madden and and what's his name from the Seahawks on here
God that everything. If you don't know, I could mean to play free
to play it for people don't know freedom plany on right. It plays like
the old Sonic games, with a lot more sure thank you, a lot
more like furry story stuff in there. There's a sequel that people like a
lot too. Octo mentioned Threes, which is one. Yeah. I like
Threes. I don't love it, mostly because I couldn't unlock my brain to
be very very good at threes the way some people were and the way I
met some other puzzle games. This was just not my puzzle game. So
I mostly just appreciate that Threes is very good. Uh. Laser Wolf says
Destiny Wong Gifts says it's this persona a characters, and that that that bear
looks like something that could be in a persona. I don't know. I
guess this persona. It's okay, don't take your ship. Oh no,
he can never hurt me. Uh Big Tony the final Fantasy Guy says super
Smash Brothers for you. Villain Max says titan Fall, and Breadfish says the
Binding the basic rebirth. I was wondering when someone would actually get to it.
Uh, Matt rare Monkey, I don't know what this is league lethal
League. Okay, okayish like kind of a fighting game, but not quite
a fighting game, right, okay. He combines like a fighting game with
wind jammers. The guy the ball back and forth. Right. People do
like this a lot, don't they. Okay, I've never really played it.
Cox Tover or maybe cox Stuffer says the Shadow of Mordor Adam of sleeps
his band at A two. Buggadillo says Deception four Blood ties are so good.
I don't know. This is the one where you put traps around.
Pretty sure you have to like kill somebody. It's a dungeon keeper Like no,
no, it's I feel like it's like dungeon chasing you. It's like
fully treated somebody chasing you, and you like put traps on the place and
then you have to make them walk into the traps. He gets scoofy it
already. It's they're bad, but they're funny, Adam says Mario Kart eight.
Uh, turbot Shawan says Mario cart eight. A ash guy says Titan
Fall. Uh. Yeah, manna play some for that and that is going
to do it all right? Hey, that's good shit out then, So
you know what is? I got the remember the time thing. It was
kind of a weak year, but there's still some really good games. But
some games I look back on now with more reverence than maybe even at that
time, even though some have fallen to the wayside a bit. Yes,
same, I think there's no obvious consensus number one, like looking looking looking,
Yeah, I don't think so. So, I mean no, maybe
maybe it's Mario Kurdiate for some people. It's not for me. Although I
keep making the top five, sure, yeah, there's a chance for to
make the top five. I don't feel the need to put it at number
one, though, But I think that's the thing. I don't know what
I do want to put at number one. When I look at this do
you have one that you're like, yeah, you have your favorite. Yeah,
I want to put Shovell Night at number one. I'd be kind of
okay with that because I love shelved Night. Shovell Night would be in my
top three without a doubt if it was just me. So I'm trying to
think there's anything I really feel strongly about putting over that. No, shovel
Nights fan, it's still it just kept getting better, kept getting better.
I could play that right now someone, that's fantastic. I do think I
want to put Titan Fall up on the list at number two for now.
It can move around though, if it was like that's not like a permanent
thing there, that's fine. God, I would like harvestone on there.
Okay, sounds good to be particularly high. Yeah yeah, well okay,
So what about the ones that were game of the year for a lot of
people, Dragon Agent Inquisition and Shadow of More Door. I'm not like either.
I don't think they need to be there, and games there both good
games, absolutely, without a doubt. God. The other one that I
do feel like I want to get on there is wolf and Stein. Yeah,
I know I feel about wolf Stein. That's fine, absolutely Stein the
New Order and then and I'm down with whatever. If it was up to
me, I put Nithog, but I'm like, I don't feel the need
though, push something else off for Anthog. Don't forget about you? You're
talking really fast? Was that? Sorry? Don't forget about I'm sorry,
It's all right. Sorry. Uh, look, I'd like being edit to.
Uh. Definitely my favorite that series. I just see a lot of
games here. I still do want to get on. Uh. People would
be mad, but I would. I would put Stick of True before Beta
too. I'm not saying collectively we would. I don't think Jeff would agree
with that. We STI don't have Mario Kart eight on there. I think
Mario Kardate makes some sense, maybe Mario k A five and not even you
know, I'm not some giant Mario Kart person. So if you don't want
to do it, I'll go with you. I mean, it's like very
it was very good, and the reason it's still selling is because it has
stood the test of time in a way that actually very few games do.
Because it's not like it's some live service game. It's like, no,
it's just a great It's just a great game. And they like nailed everything
about it. The driving feels better than ever, the characters are great.
The look, the HD look of Mario Kart eight is so good, kind
of like timeless. Yeah we can. Let's put Mario Kart eight up there.
I like that a lot, all right, Cheby Knight at one.
I'm good with Titan Fall two. I'm good with you. Want to move
Heartstone up or down? I don't know. It kind doesn't matter to me
all that much. I think I guess I would move. I would probably
put wolf'stein above it, but I don't care. No, I like it
where it is. I mean sounds good to want my want. Look,
I do feel bad about Nobey and Eta too, but for sure, Yeah,
I just don't think there's a room. I still think there's room.
Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely. It's in the conversation. It's right
there. It feels like it's just just getting cut off. But uh yeah,
all right, Mikey, you want to go ahead and read the list
for everybody, then Best Games of twenty twenty four from bottom to top.
Number five Mario Kart eight, number four Wolf, It's Stein the New or
number three Hearthstone Heroes of Warcraft. It was caught at that time. Two
is Titan Fall and number one is Shovel Night, and I'm tweeting it now
saying we got it right again. I say four twenty fourteen. Damn it.
Keep mixing up these years by a decade. Years don't matter. Everyone
gets it. It's a good less Those are all good games. Yep,
absolutely, all right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back.
We'll do super chats, talk about what we've been playing right after this,
and we're back. Gonna leave the list up there for a little bit for
everybody for they're coming in to yell at us. I just put it on
Twitter. Yep, Mike, do we have any more super chats? Yeah,
Green Thumb, says Gerr. I am so mad, mad ad at
Phil. I don't know. I can't see through this blind rage. I'm
joking. Gee, you interface joined the Lincoln here. Thank you so much,
Viz, SUPI says, been following you guys since games. Beat to
side slash scrubs. Next they've got to catch you guys live. So this
is awesome. Love you guys and the content. Thank you, Viz.
I really appreciate that. Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
How long have we been game meste size? Now? How long have
you been a giant bone? Yeah, it's going to be two years.
Two years in June. Okay, so a year and a half fish year
and a half yep, feels longer. Yeah. Connell Wood says, seen
any Bangers and Next Fest pepper Grinder rules. I remember pepper Grinder from something
else, and that looks good. But I haven't really been able to look
at Nextvest at all. Really just been busy. I downloaded some games from
Nextfest and haven't played a single one of them. God, I would like
to find time for that. I wish we could have made it happen today,
but it just it just wasn't an option. Jan was very busy and
I wasn't kind of kind of going there by myself and just like blindly try
to find something interesting. Sure, JP says more Frank Spencer than Phil threw
us under the bus. Who's Frank Spencers just a made up character? I
don't know. No, that sounds familiar. It sounds like from a show,
but I don't know, it's not like his own Spencer's the Dido Store.
Yeah, yes, Spencer's gifts. Yeah, I have Frank Spencer.
He's a you know, turn dirty Dirty Frank comes from I looked up up
and it's a guy from a show from Rittie Show Call Some Mothers Do Am
And that might just be a coincidence that Spencer JP is talking. Oh JP
did send us Okay. I had an awkward thing with Spencer's because a J
wanted to go to the mall to buy Lorcnic cards. He's like, yeah,
my buddy told me Spencer's has them, and I thought that was weird.
So we go in there and he's like, asked like, hey,
do you have Larcnic cards here? And got a weird look like I don't
know what that is. You know, we got dildo's and I was like,
are you sure it was on hot topic? He's like, you know
that sounds right, Jack, Yes, hot topping at them? Oh man,
that definitely sounds much much more correct. It was fun though. A
says I'm sorry we all let you down today. Jeff, uh yeah,
just do better next time. There's nixt with Nick with his hashtag lock fill
up One. Banderes Sen said when Xbox bought Bethesda, they held an event
called a round table with interviews and game pass stuff. Any chances to event
is that both abk No, that's not this event is going to be.
They can't, right, they can't because when they had that conversation, it
sounded very different and some of the things they might be saying might be going
back on that. So why would you trust a new roundtable. It's what
I think a lot of fans would probably be thinking. This is probably gonna
be a press release. Guys. Aramis barramus Is Hotsunemuku Project Diva F second
was fun in my introt to the series. I had fun saying that name
this is a great game. You should watch the Shamba Quid look of this
game is like legendary. It's actually pronounced hot Sonny Meku, I'm want to
murder you. I believe you well, is it like you was in the
chats defending his mistake with you need to say they're basically like, yeah,
no, that's Sean that says that. I agree with Sean saying that they
are basically the same thing. In my mind, one has more Rick and
Morty stuff. If you can believe it. It's not hot time and they
didn't think it didn't think that was possible. Actually, when you say that
it's Spencer's now, that does sound right. That is the kind of person
that would walk into a Spencer's mike. I have been playing mostly like a
Dragon still. I did start up some suicide squad, but like a Dragon
continues to just really charm me at every turn. The combat has gotten better.
It like starts off good and then it just keeps getting better where it's
like the job system, magic Man. The job system is a huge part
of that. Also, there's just like neat little features like, hey,
you've been spending all this time building up your relationships with all these other characters.
Well, guess what, they're at a high LEFTL high enough level now
that when you do an attack, they're just going to do a follow up
tech attack because they love you that much. It's like, oh, that's
cool. So now these more difficult battles are going even faster again, and
it's like doing that really good thing of like, Okay, you're getting so
much stronger than everybody. You're taking them out real quick. So now you're
going to face stronger enemies, and now we're going to give you new things
that's going to make you feel even more capable, and they just have such
a grasp on what they're making here that I'm really into it. And then
the story continues to be great, and great in the way that it's like
it's very dumb, but in a way that it owns it. Every enemy
I've run into so far eventually is just like, what if I had a
kind of a sad story and explained it and that made you want to be
my friend? I'm like, yeah, that would be fantastic. Can we
keep doing that? And the game is like, yes, we can keep
doing that over and over and I love it. So yeah, I'm just
a huge fan of this game. I do get a little scared that,
hey, I'm about thirty five to forty hours in and I think there's probably
about another forty hours to go for me, and I'm afraid I'm not going
to beat it, and that would be very sad for me. But this
one I want to. I want to, but like I know, and
I'm gonna do my best. I'm doing it is the game that is on
my Steam deck whenever I turn it on, and one of the one of
the things that's help me beat games recently is just don't turn it. Just
don't turn the game off, and that every every time I pick up my
Steam deck, it's right there, that's the plan. But there's a lot
of fucking games right now. There's a lot of games I want to be
playing, so it's difficult. I mean, I've been playing Persona three reload
a bunch still and so really licking that. You know, the Persona games
do a similar thing where if you get a good enough bond with a party
member, they will like just sometimes come with a fallow up attack and I
always love there too. Yeah, absolutely, And then the little bit of
Suicide Squad is just trying to get a feel for it, getting past the
very early parts and it's uh, I can I can tell that there is
some rock Steady. Hey. We spend a lot of time making sure that
when you are playing this game you're having fun. Magic and there extensive Yes,
yeah, absolutely, And the character models do look very good. The
tech is very impressive. I think Harley Quinn's like face is very striking the
way people say it is. But as soon as you start getting into one
of those missions where it's just like you're gonna shoot these faceless hordes for a
long time while you wait for a time or to count down or whatever.
You know, what you're playing. And it's for me very disheartening, very
discouraging, because I'm like, I just don't have the heart for this anymore.
Please just check me out. I want to play something that is interested
in doing something new, and this just isn't. Yeah, I get that.
I still I am going to try this myself pretty soon here. I've
been hoping I could do it already, but it's been busy. So did
you did check out that Rebirth demo and play the opening section of the game
there? I have not that is, I have my PS five is kind
of ready to go with that, and I've just kind of been looking for
the right moment because I think once I start that, I'm gonna put some
real time into it. So yeah, I don't know, not yet.
Yeah, but hey, look you play that demo like man, Yeah,
everything that they do with these Final Fantasy Set remakes sure is really nice.
That combat system is still a ton of fun. It is fun getting to
Hoyle around with stephro for a bit. It's always good to get that development
with him, especially when you know in remake he does just kind of show
up as this almost sort of specter, and it is solely depending on your
familiarity with that character from previous Final Fantasy games. So it's good to really
see the development and that kind of classic heel turn that happens in that game.
And it feels, you know, it seems more poignant now and more
impactful because they do spend more time with it. They spend more time with
the kind of cloud seffer Off mentors student relationship, and you kind of like
you almost begin to call him a puppy, cause yeah, there's sexual attention
for sure. Absolutely, Yeah, cool, great stuff. I'm looking I'm
looking forward to it though, looking forward to spending time with that game.
Really high hopes that I expect that game to fully meet. Yes, i'd
be it'd be shocking, I think because I door remake just you know,
you play that dumb, I think you'll get the impression like, yeah,
they're just they're moving right along into this one, right, They're still firing
on all cylinders. I got that Penny's big breakaway code. I haven't you
even had had time for that? Like, and that's when I'm like,
oh, it's a preview. I'd like to just touch on there. Good.
Yeah, there's just so much stuff I want to be playing once you
get through. Like do you have a game that you're like looking forward to,
like going back to, or do you think there's not even going to
be time for that, Cause like kevbot dot orgon chat is talking about they
just beat Jedi Survivor, and it's like, yeah, that's the game I
was going to be playing right now when I had all this time because there
weren't going to be games in twenty twenty four and then fuck me, I
guess I thought December January was going to be able to beat my Fantasy sixteen
in Jedi Survivor and it's like, nope, I got to beat sixteen at
some point, but like that's not that's not a priority over rebirth for me,
Like I don't sixteen's as good as remake is, so just absolutely not.
Look, I definitely going to play like a Dragon some point. I'm
not going to until I be PERSONA three, and that might take me a
while. Like you know, I'm not I've been playing a bit every night,
but I'm still not super far into it. I just did the monoail
sequence for people who know, so I still have a long way to go
in that one. So yeah, that's that's kind of where I am.
I know that PERSONA and then Final Fantasy is going to take up a lot
of my time in the next month or so. It's gonna be a while.
And then kind of wood says or I'm sorry who said it, someone
say that hopefully March is light, and it's like, I'm going to be
going to packs, so I'm going to be busy that way. I have
a lot of travel in March because uh yeah, i might be going to
pass dialing that down. I'm actually have a personal trip maybe GDC. Also,
I'm not sure yet, So yeah, there might be a lot of
travel in March. We'll see, we will see. My Almas two is
in March, ash okay, And I definitely want to play that, like
that is when I do not want to miss I'm playing that. Yep,
playing that, Okay, all right, Yeah, listen, hey, it's
a good time to be to be into video games. If you like playing
video games, it's a good time. You're right to talk about video games
on on Twitter. Maybe not so great, but good. You don't deserve
it. You don't deserve good things. You like, and I should know
because I'm one of them. Mike, I'm gonna hit the button to get
us out of you here. Is that sound good? Let's get out of
here, Let's go done. Yeah, the Blake Club continues to be a
treasure that you got through two levels in Blake Club. People should check that
out. Huh. Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
I was, I was really feeling it. I wonder if I'm gonna keep
this pace up or hit another really tough wlall here like I did in that
Wind Temple area or whatever. That was God, god fucking fujin fujin real
bastard. It really is just a complete Yeah, the worst, absolutely worst.
That water asshole is nothing. I think they mix up the levels.
I think that stupid Earth Temple was supposed to be level two or something and
then somebody just like swapped itferent fundies. I don't know. Yep, you're
right. I mean the way that the progress went, the progression goes in
that game, it would have made so much more sense. I think they
were like, the wind Timpo's visually cooler, so we want to have that
second. I think that's all they thought about. Yeah, there's a lot
of stuff in that game. They don't. They just didn't think about it
very much. We thought about it rocked. They thought about it in a
bad way. Uh, there is a lot of great stuff happened over on
Giant Bomb, though. You guys should all go check that stuff out.
Mike, what do you have happening? Well, make sure you do watch
catch me if you dan over a Giant Bomb absolutely so much time. Yeah,
you know, if you didn't check out that ninety six of the episode
a Castle Illusion, please do that. But uh, you know, we
should be playing Hell Divers to tomorrow if the service collo operate on and if
it doesn't, will play c F Thieves or I'm sorry, Skull and Bones
excuse me, something like that. Yep, yeah, freak man, there's
something I still didn't get to play through all that monkey out and stuff and
see a Thieves. Oh geez right, yeah, god, oh my god.
It's just and all these old games that I buy right and want to
play. You know. That's the thing, like, if that's with me,
Hey, if they stop making vegans tomorrow, i'd be sad. I
would still have enough video games to play until the day I die. Easily.
I'll be fine. And I'm like, I see like jam playing that
bilotro game with the poker like rogue led game, and I'm like, that
looks so good. But I'm like, I am legit scared of it because
I bet I would lose a ton of time to that and I just can't
afford it right now. It's crazy out there, everybody, Thanks for listening,
Thanks for watching. Until next time, have got take care of yourself.
Goodbye. Is it just a stupid asshole? I didn't know slavery was
illegal. You want to shoot my dicken? Asshole? What we did it?
At the same time, we're too good. There's a ship ton of
people here. Hello everybody. Sorry you're here with us on a night where
I'm just just shot, just so tired. But thank you for sticking with
us. Everybody. Two years to night and a to a game. Mm
hmm, I'm going back them real quick. Probably the music was really soft
in the beginning. Yeah, but that'll just be for the video version.
Sorry, everybody. Christian will fix that if you listen to the audio version.
Yeah, you you like my eaves gimble pronunciation, listen. I spent
a little bit of time in France. My wife lived in France for two
years before we were married, and I learned the key to pronouncing things with
a French accent is just mostly let your mouth melt halfway through the word.
Sound more French the more you do that. Actually, if you just start
off with your mouth melting, you'll sound French. What is this in my
hand? Yeah? Yeah, the last letter means nothing. It's like you
should have disdain for the last letter in any French word. Absolutely, just
look at it with disgust. Yeah, then I may find out the French.
We go I did after the conversation with Dan about Napoleon. I did
go watch a handful of YouTube videos about Napoleon. Yeah, and I was
like, I'm like, I was French er. They fucking go hard.
All they do, all they do is kill kings and then and then get
kind of frustrated with them whoever they install. And then they they they go
on the picket line. They pick it. They picked their jobs. That's
all that. That's the two things they do in that country. Burned down
ship when somebody like, I just love that ship. They killed the king
for shoot, wait, they killed kings. I love that. I went
to you to ask him about resputing I wonder if he knows about resputing,
does he know the one key thing about recuing I know about You know,
some people think he was like a like a made up color because like he's
got like such an outsized personality because of the myths around him, right where
like he was shot and burned and all these other and and hanged, and
you know, Dick is a foot long. Like come on now, you
know we're talking about Jodah Falcon. Come on, man, Look you're staring
away all the extra people who got here, all the you're staring away,
all the anxious Xbox fans about video games. Everyone. We're talking about rast
Feuting's Dick, get back in here. All right, let's go. I'm
gonna bring it back break. I forgot what show we were doing too,
I don't know you know what it was. It felt like questions from ten
dogs because there's so many of us. Yeah, yeah, I'll get some
light buttons, God deam and get me the like. Yeah hit those hit
those likes. Their money is great to me, but I love those likes.
This is what happened when you don't have foodball in your country, like
real football, when you don't have clubs do you fill it console? Yeah,
you're right. I mean there are countries that do have real football.
No, my example is going to be Australia. And because there's Australia,
like, are they crazy about soccer the way other countries are, I don't
know, because they have like a really they are really really like deep in
surprise seeing car culture there where it's like Ford versus Chevy and it's like look
very toxic, and I always find that very fascinating that, Yeah, the
thing happens here in Argentina. Yeah, it's like it's the four's a Chevy
Super there's auber toxic. But also here in Argentina that's like people is super
bumboys for life, for the consoles so forever, of course, yeah,
of course. I mean listen, it's it's it's human nature. I mean
I get it, like you are protecting yourself from fomo. Uh. You
only have so much time and money, and so you pick something and you
decide the other thing is not just worth ignoring. But you need to decide
it's bad because you do not want to feel bad for missing out on it.
I've done it all my life. I remember, like when I started
getting to MCU as a fucking adult and these DC movies started coming out.
I was like very happy to be like that's tough trash. Even though I
love the Batman trilogies and and everything that happened before that, it was just
like, no, I don't have time for it. I'm like, actually,
stupid MCU movies. It was the dumbest thing. It happens. It's
human nature, I get it. I remember going to the siber here so
the like this PC bongs type style and making fun of the people that played
Doda, the original Doda when I was playing counter Strike. You know,
it's like, look at those nerves moving like units around like five thousand hours
legions exactly exactly, and it gets us all in the end. Yeah,
they're true. Yes, MCU is dead. Cool man, Yeah, I
know. Thanks thanks for the update. Yeah. I was just talking about
like how i've like done the fanboy thing of of trying to defend myself from
spending more time in like DC movies. So it was very like once I
was invested in MCU, I was like very happy to dump all over DC
because I was happy I didn't have another thing to have to spend all my
time yeah. Yeah. So here we are just going into a game of
the year. Yeah, best game of twenty fourteen. Do we have anything
else? Sean, Nope, that's it. That's it, all right,
okay, good, let's do it. This is upbreak. You wanna jump
back into it, you wanna shot back into it? Let go? I
found all right for a chance, here we go.