1 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,359 It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to the Game 2 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,000 Mess Deicides podcast. This is the podcast where we decide everything about the world 3 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:35,719 of video games so you never have to think for yourself. I'm your host 4 00:00:35,759 --> 00:00:40,920 Jeff Grubbin. With me is Mike Vanatti. In today's episode, I regret 5 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,520 to inform you that Xbox has lost Tim Dogg the first. Mike, how 6 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,359 are you doing, I'm uh, I'm good. Busy. You know, 7 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,320 I always feel really silly complaining about being tired and like being really busy with 8 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:59,479 like my video game videos and video game work. But also, yeah, 9 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,119 it's been It's there's just something like mentally exhausting when you just go from like 10 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:04,120 one thing to the next thing, to the next thing to the next thing, 11 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,560 absolutely not complaining about doing this. This is always so much on not 12 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:11,000 complaining about doing any of it. It's all fun. It just is a 13 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,439 lot, yeah, absolutely, and it can wear it down, wear you 14 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,200 down eventually. I mean, you got to bring a certain amount of social 15 00:01:15,239 --> 00:01:18,680 juice to all these things, and that stuff is see, you need to 16 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,560 replenngsh it every once in a while, and you don't. You only have 17 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:25,040 so many ten percent alcohol by volume drinks in your home. So I have 18 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,439 one more that'll be a bad idea. Yes, absolutely, I should have 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,439 some weak beer, a nice like weak beer does sound nice, but no, 20 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:38,040 ye, like just a natty light, just going light, something that's 21 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,000 just water. Basically, I don't want to get the natty splat. He's 22 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,719 not that. Yeah, I don't know. But you're doing well otherwise, 23 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,560 other than being busy, I mean being busy because it's a good busy, 24 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,920 right, It's that we're busy. Is the good busy. It's always better 25 00:01:51,959 --> 00:01:55,760 to be busy than the alternative. Yeah, right, right, absolutely, 26 00:01:55,799 --> 00:01:59,519 And yeah, there's lots of video games to play, so you can talk 27 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,719 about some that you can't. So yeah, it is. It is wild, 28 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:07,319 you know, twenty thirteen old time like wow, just incredible, blah 29 00:02:07,359 --> 00:02:12,520 blah blah. If twenty fourteen kept this pace, it would be even better 30 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:15,199 than last year was. I don't think it can. I think it's going 31 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,879 to slow down here eventually. But it has been pretty ridiculous, especially if 32 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,560 you like RPGs. Mm hmmm, yep, I'm sure you're talking about Grand 33 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,800 Blue Fantasy Relink. I do. Actually, it looks like a lot of 34 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,080 fun, I know, I looked at the camera. Everybody, that's all 35 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,599 the correction, I say, twenty fourteen. Give me a break. Yeah, 36 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,520 I told you, did I not start the show by saying and say 37 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,960 it, I'd say shit? Uh all right, you know what, Well, 38 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,800 let's just get through this episode. We need to like, save ourselves 39 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,520 and get some real sleep tonight. So you can get more from Mike and 40 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:53,520 me by joining the discord at gamess dot net. Give us a good rating 41 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,479 wherever you are listening, and hit the like button on YouTube. It helps 42 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,240 people find the show. If you want to ask a question, you could 43 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:01,479 drop a super chat right here on the program. We'll get to all of 44 00:03:01,479 --> 00:03:06,000 those before the end. Thank you to Carlos sayin Who's Insane in the Ring 45 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,960 Music on YouTube for the use of our theme songs. Thanks to one up 46 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,800 versus CPU for our artwork. You can find more of them over at one 47 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,039 up versus cpu dot com. 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And hey, 64 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,000 we just recorded the uh the new game Mess Game Club episode about Vanquish, 65 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,279 so you if you missed it live, I don't want to go to my 66 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:25,800 twitch archive. That'll get posted onto the YouTube page here pretty soon. If 67 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,240 you want to participate in the game club, then yes, you have to 68 00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:33,680 be in the Discord server, so you get to join the Patreon and then 69 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:38,199 you can play through our current game, which is Go Strick Fan Detective, 70 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,680 which Jeff you know, you know you've been looking first used to play it, 71 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,680 and I know it's very busy and maybe not exactly the month. How 72 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:48,439 long is it? I don't know, but you know what it is an 73 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:51,920 episode if you you know, if you could just play it on your Steam 74 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,240 account, if you at least played the first episode, I'd be interested what 75 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,839 you thought of that, and that would take you like an hour or two. 76 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,279 Oh okay, well that's that. I'll give that a shot. That 77 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:03,800 sounds good. All right, cool, I got big topics to talk about. 78 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:08,879 Let's get started. Happened? Well, I'm gonna start with this one 79 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,399 because I'm interested in your thoughts. I don't know if we've actually talked about 80 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:16,160 this much. Disney investing one point five billion dollars in Epic and they will 81 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:23,040 have major Fortnite partnerships. That takes the form of basically like a hub, 82 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,680 a metaverse sort of thing, a bunch of games that have interoperability with Fortnite. 83 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,879 But aren't necessarily Fortnite probably pretty similar to what we saw with Rocket Racing, 84 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:35,399 the rock band game I can never remember the name of, and the 85 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:42,560 Lego game. What do you think, mister Disney adult. Yeah, well, 86 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,399 my first thought is how hilarious it is they avoided using the word metaverse 87 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:50,720 the entire time. Yes, that is the steady hand, the steady guiding 88 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:55,839 hand. I believe of one John T. Drake who would probably know that 89 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,160 that is not going to be a very helpful thing to put into your press 90 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,920 release at this point, right, But they keep you in words like persistent 91 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,959 game universe. But I mean I think that that is kind of what they 92 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,319 want here, jee Oh sure, Yeah. You look at like the one 93 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:10,160 big concept art thing. It kind of reminds me of Ralph Frex the Internet, 94 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,800 where it's just it looks like what they really want is a social space 95 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:15,600 with all these different hubs and like all of their brands are going to be 96 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:21,000 represented, and you know what exactly do those activations look like? I suppose 97 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,959 are they bespoke games like you have, like what you have with the other 98 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,759 epic game stuff, and are they going to be stickier than those? I 99 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:36,160 guess, right? How many people are playing that racing game right in Fortnite 100 00:06:36,199 --> 00:06:40,319 right now. Maybe it's a lot of people that maybe were unaware. It 101 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,319 does feel like they went away. Lego game probably does have millions of kids 102 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,319 playing it. I honestly don't know. I did. We did see tonight 103 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,920 that Bob Iger was asked about this, and he said that this stuff, 104 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,000 the game part, the investment has happened. They now own an equity stake 105 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,639 in Epic because they gave them one point five billion dollars and so they are 106 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:03,120 fully invested into Epic. Tim Sweeney still has the controlling shares, so this 107 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,199 is not Disney owns it instead of ten sent never owned Epic. It's just 108 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:13,199 now that they're another shareholder. Bob Iger did say though that the games or 109 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,240 whatever this manifest into is going to take a couple of years. And Mike, 110 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:19,839 my initial thought there was, oh, it's never coming out exactly. 111 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,639 It's probably wrong. But that was my knee jerk reaction. I don't know, 112 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,800 what do you think. I think it's going to come out. That's 113 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,560 a very big investment. It's not, you know, and it's I mean, 114 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:34,319 my understanding is that it's an investment purely Epic Games to make this stuff. 115 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,199 It's not like Disney's putting together some team, so just paying Epic Games 116 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:41,839 to do this for them, which has basically been their mo now for a 117 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:45,439 while. And it makes sense. Disney is already this giant company. They 118 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:48,519 can't really afford to spin up some major game production studio. They have a 119 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,040 game division and John Drake's doing really good stuff there, but it is smarter 120 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,600 for them generally to just invest, not acquire, but invest in a very 121 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,000 big company that already has a large audience. Right. And what they've mostly 122 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,399 been doing up until this point though, is not even investing. It is 123 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,600 finding people that want to give them money to license things, right exactly, 124 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:13,319 and that that's only gonna get you so far these days. I think it's 125 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:16,360 what they realized. It's like whoa by Biger, you know, he looked 126 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:18,399 around, he was like, wow, did you know that young people like 127 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,319 video games? Well? I looked at them, how much time they're s 128 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:26,680 been playing video games? And I was shocked, just one sentence away from 129 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,839 saying something about how back in my day it was pac Man. Yes, 130 00:08:30,279 --> 00:08:33,159 right, they've come a long way since pac Man. I am surprised. 131 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,279 He didn't say that. I hope that was just some stupid like I don't 132 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,720 know overhearst or written the line for him, because I mean, he's he's 133 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:45,120 been there when they did have of course, biggish gaming initiatives like Disney Infinity, 134 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,679 like he's got. I can't I can't believe that the person who's like 135 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:52,879 CEO of Disney for twenty years or what effort doesn't know about how young people 136 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,399 like video games, right insane. I mean, I'm maybe he thinks he's 137 00:08:56,399 --> 00:09:00,919 speaking to investors that are not accustomed to video games, but I think most 138 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:05,600 of the people who have money in Disney probably understand the video game space a 139 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:09,840 little bit. Yeah, I mean, so they do have this one point 140 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,840 five billion dollars. It does represent them sort of saying, hey, yeah, 141 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:16,159 when we make movies, we put a lot of money into our movies, 142 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:18,320 and we make parks. We put a lot of money into our parks, 143 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,639 and we make video games. We were just kind of standing back and 144 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,960 hoping something would happen and people would give us us money for not doing any 145 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,879 work, and to a certain extent, that worked for a little bit, 146 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:35,279 but really it never actually it's never really worked all of Disney's video gaming ideas 147 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,679 and initiatives have been false starts, even the ones that people do have fondness 148 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,200 for Disney Infinity. People like Disney Infinity. It's sold well enough, but 149 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,960 clearly that was supposed to be a long term solution and it was not. 150 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,399 That went away and then suddenly they were back at square one. They do 151 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:54,279 not want to go back to square one with this, But I don't think 152 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,639 I'm convinced that this is like going to be the thing that people are playing 153 00:09:56,759 --> 00:10:01,039 for ten years. It could be, but I honestly don't know a better 154 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,559 bet that they could go do that they could take with one point five billion 155 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,200 dollars other than this. So I get how they end up here. I 156 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 don't know, what do you think? I mean? It's hard. How 157 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,759 do you even get a Fortnite? Right? It's not because that the game 158 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:16,200 slowly decided we're going to spend a lot of money make a giant hit Fortnite. 159 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,600 Is this weird accident? Yeah, never even supposed to be that game. 160 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,159 But they have to do something, Jeff. For one thing, Disney 161 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,360 struggling in a lot of other areas right now. Movies have been taking a 162 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:33,360 big hit the brand itself has taken something of a hit, and like you 163 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:37,080 know, on the movie side, it seems like they're big plan to get 164 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,720 back. There is a lot of sequels and to kind of let off on 165 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,960 the Marvel Gas a little bit and maybe a bit on the Star Wars guess 166 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,519 as well. Yeah, they got it into something, and hey, if 167 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,600 they can make a really interesting sort of social space that is very disneyfied. 168 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,679 The problem is the problem with the matters what do we actually do there, 169 00:10:56,759 --> 00:11:00,399 Like, is it gonna be fun or is it just going to be you 170 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,600 know, an empty mall? Right, right? Is an empty mall? 171 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Yeah? Yeah, that's gonna be tough for them to pull off. I 172 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,799 mean, it's epic. They do know how to make fun games, but 173 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,960 not everything is taking over the world. Fortnite Battle Royale is the one thing 174 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,799 that consistently performs, and these other things kind of feel like distractions. But 175 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,120 again, they do have to try. I think that this is a as 176 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:28,120 good of a bet as anything else, and if they do kind of nail 177 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,799 the relationship between the two companies where it's like okay, yeah, yeah, 178 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,919 sure, we're gonna have the Disney zone that you can go into and there 179 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:39,120 won't be guns, so we can we can have all the characters doing all 180 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,559 those things. And because the because we are so invested with one another, 181 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:45,799 it's a lot easier for us to get the green light to use all these 182 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,919 characters. So all that's good. That's gonna be like well lubricated and work 183 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:54,240 very well. But then there are still gonna be millions of people playing Fortnite 184 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,639 Battle Royale. Many of the purchases probably will carry over from one to the 185 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,600 other. But even if they don't, I to expect, like you're gonna 186 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,080 be playing Fortnite, and a trailer for Disney movies is just gonna be popping 187 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:09,200 up in the in stuff like that now, like like just there'll be TVs 188 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,240 playing trailers for new Disney movies all the time. I think just as you're 189 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:18,759 running around that in that world, they might find more creative and elegant ways 190 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:20,639 to do that than what I'm describing here. But I think that that that's 191 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,840 the kind of thing that they're thinking of, is like, this is like 192 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:26,320 an audience that we need to reach with our other products, and sure we 193 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,879 need to go to them and bring them games. We can't just go go 194 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:33,000 to them and like advertise directly at them. But that can be part of 195 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:35,559 a wider strategy, and I think for that that makes some sense for them. 196 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,320 It can help, but I mean, can only do so much. 197 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:46,159 Don't forget episode nine, what was ye Rise of Skywalker? Major plot point 198 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,639 happened in Fortnite, right, and that was still an underperformer. Sure of 199 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:54,600 course, you know, mostly because the movie was bad r ry, But 200 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,919 who knows? You have that idea today on Games morning of just just make 201 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,440 a battle Royale in like the Magic Kingdom and you're a bunch of kids with 202 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:09,159 bubble guns or something, right, right, I'd play that absolutely, Yeah, 203 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,320 exactly, And I think that's something that they probably will do because it 204 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:15,759 was just like a virtual like a virtual representation of their parks. I'd love 205 00:13:15,799 --> 00:13:18,000 that, That's what I mean, it's gonna be that. I don't, 206 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:20,320 probably not, but I mean if it was, that would be a really 207 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,679 cool place to run around. Now, they probably wouldn't do that because I 208 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,200 don't think they even a bubble gun. I don't think they want people associating 209 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,440 people running around guns inside of the Disney parks. That's just But even if 210 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,200 it was just like there's no combat in its life in Bowery, even though 211 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,559 they just recreated the Magic Kingdom and yeah, I mean around Hide and Seek 212 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:43,080 game. Yeah, I don't know. I mean just basically make it like 213 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,240 that Connect game, but down the epic engine and without most of control mini 214 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:50,639 games. That's fine. Yeah, honestly, could just be just to look 215 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:54,759 at roadblocks, making a bunch of hobbies, a bunch of obstacle courses and 216 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:56,440 stuff like that. That would probably be fine for the audience that they're going 217 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,320 for. Xbox may bring games to PlayStation. We're going to find out more 218 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:05,000 next week, so they're gonna have a business update. The business update I 219 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:09,960 realized when we were talking about the Nintendo Director earlier this week kind of lines 220 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:15,440 up with a Nintendo direct. Maybe suspiciously, maybe not. Yeah, listen, 221 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:16,919 I've talked about this to death, mic, so I don't feel a 222 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:22,080 great need to go over it over and over here. But yeah, this 223 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:26,799 at a certain point, you look at the kinds of games that we're talking 224 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:31,320 about from Microsoft that they might be bringing to PlayStation, even like Years of 225 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:37,679 War, and it's just like, yeah, those games already aren't going to 226 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:39,799 be moving the needle for Xbox if you keep them exclusive. It feels like 227 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,720 not in the way that they need it to. And then all their stuff 228 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,240 that is massive is already everywhere, like Call of Duty's already everywhere. So 229 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:54,200 I just kind of don't see how this changes much other than there was a 230 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,639 certain audience that was saying, Hey, I am here for the exclusives and 231 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:01,759 I'm going to you know, fight the Console Warrior, fight on your behalf, 232 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,840 and I need these games to kind of make me feel better about that. 233 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,360 Yeah, I mean, I'm like, not even whatever the Console Warrior 234 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:11,720 side of it is. I don't care, like you know, like some 235 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:15,720 people are using this to you know, bemoan the Console Warrior aspect of it 236 00:15:15,799 --> 00:15:18,960 or talk about that it's not even like a real thing to me. So 237 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,000 we don't care what they think. It's not even a consideration really, But 238 00:15:22,039 --> 00:15:24,519 there are like you know, and I think sometimes when we talk about from 239 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:30,600 that perspective, we sweep in a lot of like genuine consumers into this, 240 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:33,759 and there's definitely a lot of genuine criticism to be had here. Right again, 241 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:37,399 It's like, you know, if you bought an Xbox or five hundred 242 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,440 dollars whatever, and you feel and you're upsetting what criticize it, I go 243 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,279 ahead, that's oh yeah, no matter whether your family or not. In 244 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:46,120 fact, yeah right, yeah, So I don't know it's but it's still 245 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:48,120 you know me, at first, I was kind of freaked out by this, 246 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:52,919 just because it does seem like this big deal change. And I still 247 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:58,320 have a hard time seeing how this leads to an Xbox that is a really 248 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,000 healthy kind of the Sony level competitor again, right, And I think that's 249 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,799 because it's probably not right. That's I think you're right. What you identifying 250 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:11,360 there is what's happening. I think it's like it's going to be less of 251 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:17,320 that and more of more than ever being Microsoft Gaming branch, right, yeah, 252 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,759 and not to the point like where like, oh it's called Microsoft game 253 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:22,159 Pass. I don't think that actually meant anything when game stopped that. I 254 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,840 do think that is kind of the future we're heading to, and that's what 255 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:29,480 the Xbox brand is going to be, and it'll still be on machines and 256 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,639 consoles and things like that, and what I'm really talking about where it really 257 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:36,720 feels like that that might be ten or more years down the road, but 258 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:41,399 it does feel like that is the road we are on. Yep. And 259 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,960 I think it's because we are yep, like that's just that is what's happening 260 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,159 here now. And if that's not what you want, I get it, 261 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,919 Like yeah, and you should make your voice heard that there's a chance to 262 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:56,480 change and shape the policy of this big company by yelling about it online or 263 00:16:56,559 --> 00:17:03,319 just like sending your criticisms in on social media media. But Microsoft's been saying 264 00:17:03,359 --> 00:17:07,400 this for a long time now, like they've been saying that this is what 265 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,039 they're doing, and now it's just becoming more explicit and maybe more more extreme 266 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,880 than I think even I was expecting. But it's like when you know, 267 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,160 you go back and see the way that Phil Spencer's talked about this stuff and 268 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,920 the way Matt Booty spoken like FTC filings, it's like, yeah, they're 269 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,359 all they've been considering this strategy in one way or another for quite some time. 270 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:32,319 And so the fact that we're here after Starfield and Starfield didn't change anything. 271 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,440 They have to be looking at their games internally and being like, we 272 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,680 don't have anything else that we expect to do what we thought Starfield was going 273 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:41,720 to do, so what's next, And so them having to be like, 274 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,000 Okay, we have to rework our strategy makes a lot of sense to me. 275 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,960 I don't know how else to view it, and I don't help know 276 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,720 how else to explain it to make people not get concerned. I think if 277 00:17:52,759 --> 00:17:56,039 that is, if your worry is I spent five hundred dollars and I want 278 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:59,400 to feel good about exclusives, you should be worried. I think, like 279 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:03,200 cause that that is a thing that is going to change, I would also 280 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,000 just urge. Probably it might change, but not in a way that is 281 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,359 necessarily fundamentally bad for you playing video games. You might have to just adjust 282 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,200 slightly. And you made that investment, I get that that's not the best 283 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,240 for you. Yeah. I mean what they're really struggling with is finding a 284 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:23,519 way that differentiates them from PlayStation because the exclusive just aren't enough, and they 285 00:18:23,599 --> 00:18:27,720 tried. There's a lot of investment, a lot of studios didn't really happen. 286 00:18:29,599 --> 00:18:33,000 I wish that they had tried more in the hardware front itself to find 287 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:37,119 way to differentiate themselves. Now they did. Before there were things like Connect 288 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,880 and then there was only so much deuce you could actually squeeze out of that 289 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,640 thing, and then you're back to just being a kind of a normal video 290 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,599 game console again, and they tried things like services. I mean, game 291 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,400 Pass was a giant push for a long time and everyone pretty much agrees that 292 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,480 it's great, incredible value and it kind of only can do so much still 293 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:56,440 and at the end of the day, PS plus also a pretty good deal 294 00:18:56,519 --> 00:18:59,519 also pretty yeah, well, that's the problem with like something when you do 295 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,119 have a good idea like game passed, well, Sony could just make their 296 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,319 own right right away exactly. They'll have a million partners ready to line up 297 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,759 to put their games on it. Because at the end of the day, 298 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,960 like when Nintendo does something different, they find a way to make it feel 299 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:19,440 like their games rely on it. And game Pass is like just an economic 300 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:23,240 engine. It's just a commerce engine. It doesn't really affect anything and once 301 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:27,480 you're actually playing the video game, And that's the differentiating factor that seems to 302 00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:33,000 be missing from Xbox, Like not that PlayStation has it, but PlayStation is 303 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:36,400 just in a position where they don't need it. Xbox certainly seems like it 304 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,880 does. And if people are like no, I want them just to go 305 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,000 toe for toe, try to make the kinds of games to PlayStation makes and 306 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:45,480 beat them at it like that is like, I just that is so much 307 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,559 easier said than done. That is what Microsoft has come to realize. I 308 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:53,960 think, you know, either through trying it or just like maybe like even 309 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,640 like looking at like what they can do and being like, hey, the 310 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,759 things that were already kind of good at that's hard to enough, let alone 311 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:04,240 trying to shift over and make games like PlayStation. So just they're looking at 312 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:10,039 the level of investment needed to go toe to toe with Sony and saying that's 313 00:20:10,039 --> 00:20:12,359 going to be very expensive, very risky, because we just don't know if 314 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,400 we're going to be able to do it as well as them, And so 315 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:18,880 it seems like they're not even going to try. And I think a lot 316 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,119 of people just expected, hey, after twenty eighteen and all those acquisitions, 317 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:26,039 we're going to get a series of games where they're like really going to throw 318 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:27,680 haymakers and we're going to see if they can make any changes. And it's 319 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,880 just like, no, that's actually not how it's going to play out. 320 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:36,519 That was all part of a loading up a weapon that would enable them to 321 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,039 have more options. When they just decided either to either to keep going down 322 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,440 this ride of trying to compete toe to toe or having to shift gears, 323 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,319 and it's like, clearly they have recognized in their opinion they need to shift, 324 00:20:47,839 --> 00:20:52,720 and here we are. I still think we get new Xbox hardware in 325 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:59,200 like twenty twenty six to twenty twenty eight in that region of time, so 326 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,519 it's like, what does change here? Is like okay, yeah, maybe 327 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:06,400 we don't get a console after that. But it also felt like Microsoft's was 328 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,680 already trying to push in a direction where maybe they were going to be all 329 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,279 in the cloud or something like that, or we're just everywhere as a service, 330 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,839 So it's like, h that already felt like part of the plan. 331 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:18,240 So again, I just don't know how much this changes. And if I 332 00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:22,079 sound dismissive, it's because it doesn't. None of this affects me. I'm 333 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:26,680 sorry, Just personally, I have a hard time of feeling like too much 334 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,599 of a way about this because I already play all these Xbox games on my 335 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,759 PC, so literally nothing has changed for me. It's the same before this 336 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,279 announcement as it is now for me. So I don't know how I can 337 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,599 bring in my personal animus about this. It's just it is what it is 338 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,480 for me. Are you surprised the Series S wasn't more of a positive factor 339 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:49,559 for Xbox. They had this, you know, they had the cheapest entry 340 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:53,440 point into the next generation, and you know, they got a lot of 341 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,960 praise for what it was. It was pretty powerful. I know, kind 342 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,599 of out the year or two there was that negative way, like, oh, 343 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:03,519 this is holding back the Xbox. But for a while there nobody was 344 00:22:03,559 --> 00:22:08,599 saying that, Yeah. I think it's yeah, I'm surprised, a little 345 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:14,799 surprised. People always had that thing about the Xbox tax about oh, if 346 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,480 Xbox does it, it's like looked in a negative way, and I think 347 00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:21,480 I don't like fully agree with that, but I think there's something to it. 348 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:25,119 Like I would point back to tomb Raider, the exclusivity there, and 349 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,279 how if another company had done that, Sony or Nintendo, it would have 350 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:30,480 probably looked have been looked upon much more favorably than it was when Microsoft did 351 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,720 it. And I think there's something to that with the Xbox Series S, 352 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,359 where people are just like that thing was trying to convince you, hey, 353 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:41,519 this doesn't have to be your primary consul. Maybe you are spending a lot 354 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:45,640 of money on something else, We'll offer you a cheaper option to have it 355 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:51,920 be your side piece. And I think some people are like kind of just 356 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,160 like, no, I don't like, I don't want to consider that, 357 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:56,960 and it was just kind of it was so yeah, I'm surprised that it 358 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,599 didn't catch on more that people couldn't just like put that aside and be like, 359 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,279 oh, yeah, cool, now I have an easy way to get 360 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:03,880 into game pass. I think it did pretty good in like Europe. I 361 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,920 think it seems like it did pretty good here, but it just didn't change 362 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,640 the conversation at all in a way that I maybe I expected it too. 363 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,680 We have a bunch of super chats about the chefs. We'll be able to 364 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,799 talk about this more in the future, but we can move on to other 365 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,599 news stories if you want to bring it. Yeah, let's see here. 366 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,839 Yes, the next one is, oh, just real quick. FTC is 367 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,519 unhappy about this and that's just not going to really result in much but hey, 368 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:32,960 yeah, exactly this. FTC is upset about Microsoft laying people off. 369 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,000 I should say the Microsoft late off nineteen hundred people about two weeks ago. 370 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,119 FTC is now filed an injunction to try to like stop further merging of these 371 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:48,599 companies that have already basically merged and FTC is going to court trying to get 372 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:52,079 that injunction in place, and they basically said when Microsoft was in court trying 373 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:56,440 to defend itself against the FTC previously, they said they wouldn't do this, 374 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:00,000 and they said that activision would stand on its own, so there the redundancies, 375 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,480 so there wouldn't be the standard kind of layoffs that happened because of a 376 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:07,960 merger. And now when this happened, Phil Spencer did use the word overlap 377 00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:14,319 and so that therefore they lied, and yeah, seems like it seems like 378 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,519 that's exactly what happened. Now. Microsoft defended themselves saying, the reality's changed. 379 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,960 We had to make changes because of what the UK wanted us to do 380 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:26,680 to get the deal for to get the deal through, and that all happened 381 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,079 after the FTC case. So when he said that that was true and then 382 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,119 things changed and then that stopped being true, it's like, ah, I 383 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,599 don't give a fuck, I don't care. This sucks that you guys like 384 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,839 said that and then laid off nineteen hundred people, even if it is in 385 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,920 line with the eight percent that everyone else is laying off and even if it 386 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,119 is something that Activision was already planning to do, you didn't have to do 387 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,599 it, or you could have like taken more time to find ways to keep 388 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:55,160 more of those people on board. There was a you know, maybe I 389 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,400 may or may not work for a company that had layoffs and they didn't lay 390 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,559 off eight percent of people. They lay a few smaller than that. They 391 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,599 found a way to lay off a fewer than that. Still sucks that there's 392 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:07,160 a layoffs, but it's like, you're Microsoft. You have all the money 393 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,559 in the goddamn world. You didn't have to lay off eight percent. You 394 00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:12,160 could have just picked at it, maybe a little bit lighter, instead of 395 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,079 going whole hog on it like the way you did. So uh yeah, 396 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:18,000 I'm glad the FTC is poking at them. Yeah, no exactly, Like, 397 00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:22,519 yeah, they deserve to be scrutinized over it, right, I mean, 398 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:23,720 I don't think much is gonna happen for it, But like, if 399 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:27,440 the worst case scenario happens, like you have to on the merge with ABK, 400 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,759 I'm not gonna feel too bad about Like, yeah, I mean what 401 00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:33,799 you kind of messed it up, but yeah, not much is gonna happen 402 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:37,400 there, but absolutely look into it, make them feel uneasy about it, 403 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:44,319 and go for it. And then skull Bones is the uh next quarry here? 404 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,119 Everybody, we did it? Hell yeah, did it? Quadrue. 405 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,400 That's what all those extra years were for. That's what all those trailers were 406 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,240 for. If you're gonna, if you are gonna make a game, it 407 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:57,400 takes ten years, it's because you need that extra a eeves. Get them 408 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,039 all in defending this game being a seventy dollar game, even though it's also 409 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,240 kind of a live service game, so that feels like it should be free 410 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,680 to play, said well, it's a quadruple A game, so it has 411 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:15,920 to be say to that, yeah, right, I mean if that's if 412 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,599 that's true, you should feel ashamed of your words and deeds for doubting this 413 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:26,400 game. We're done here, I guess stop. He wins. It's uh. 414 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,400 I treasured the moments like this in video games. Yeah, it's beautiful. 415 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:37,759 I thank you. I needed that this week called Bodes. People are 416 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:40,480 playing that right now. There's like an open beta or something. Yeah, 417 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,559 it's it's an open beta. It's like free, I think, available to 418 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:47,079 everybody, so I almost I don't know, have fun I guess right, 419 00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:48,119 because that's exactly I'm like, I almost downloaded. I'm like, I don't 420 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,960 have time for this. Playing the Hell Divers to tomorrow. Yeah, I 421 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,160 gotta do the Hell Divers to tutorial tonight. Still up there? Yeah, 422 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,359 God, that's right. People, someone says something good about it, and 423 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,200 someone says something bad about it in chat. I bet it'll be like like 424 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,400 Suicide Squad. Some people like, some people don't like. And there's a 425 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,559 lot of games these days that most people like, and you know it sucks, 426 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:12,920 but I'm like, I think I'd rather just play those. Yeah, 427 00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:17,319 I mean, there's so much to choose from at the moment. Skull and 428 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,400 Bones is one that's going to be have a very difficult hill to climb. 429 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,920 To get me on board. I did start Suicide Squad just because I'm gonna 430 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,200 be talking about on BCR tomorrow. I'm like, eh, I'm having fun 431 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,640 when I like run around and jump and shoot stuff. Everything else is kind 432 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,880 of boring and bad. Well, the story is decent. I'm not a 433 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,319 huge DC guy, so I do kind of roll my eyes a little bit. 434 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,359 But at least the performance in the writing I can tell is high quality. 435 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:45,160 So yeah, but then I see Skull and Bones and then I'm like, 436 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,839 well, Hell Divers two is right over there, and I am like 437 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,039 looking, I'm like, I'm still playing ya like a dragon infinite. Well, 438 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:55,839 so I have all these RPGs and Final Fantasy seven Rebirth demos out. 439 00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,880 I'll talk about that a little bit later, and you know, like a, 440 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,279 it's gonna be out soon. That's gonna be good. It's so much 441 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,960 there's so many big, big games to play right now that yeah, I 442 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,799 can't even I can't even really think about Skull and Bones as a joke at 443 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:14,400 the moment. Really. Ah, right, that does it for the news 444 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,839 topics, Mike, Why don't we take a quick break when we get back. 445 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,880 We'll get into the super chats. Looking forward to that right after this. 446 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,720 All right, Mike, oh man, I could not say that word. 447 00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:29,160 All right, Mike, we are back, We have some super chats. 448 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,319 Why don't you go ahead and hit me with those, Yes, and 449 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,599 if you want to send in a super chawer, but we'll read them on 450 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,920 the air. So if you want to say something mean about us because you 451 00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:40,480 are emotionally upset about this Xbox thing and want to lash out at us instead, 452 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,799 do it through the super chat. Then we'll read it. I'll write 453 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,119 it. I'll read whatever you want to you maybe money, absolutely, and 454 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,599 if it's not racist. Uh. T book At twenty three says, can 455 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,279 I get Mike to say Doctor Evil's line one million dollars while using kwan Chi's 456 00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:57,119 voice to me, QUANCHI looks like a gothic Doctor Evil. I don't know 457 00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:03,359 if I'm capable of sound like kwan Chi. I can look just like it, 458 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,319 but okay, can you just try to sound spooky? I think that'll 459 00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:12,359 be close enough. One million dollars? Yeah, pretty good? Hangout, 460 00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:17,480 pretty good. Ariel Dogaio says, Scale one to eleven. How much do 461 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:21,759 you love that puppet? I assume we're still talking about the death Stranding two 462 00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:30,680 puppet tragedy. We did it, We did everybody. Why are we such 463 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:37,240 an abrasive show? People? That's great? People love it? Uh Socratess 464 00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:42,279 friend Darryl says, I've been playing the foul Fantasy seven rebirth demo today. 465 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,240 People make a big deal about the big spoiler, but what about the other 466 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:52,720 final Fantasy seven spoiler. I don't even know what I played the demo and 467 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:57,359 I don't know what even spoiler talking about in that thing. It's the Nibbleheims 468 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,200 section of Foul Fantasy seven. It's mostly just you know, a triple A 469 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:06,880 maybe a quadruple A reproduction of that. I guess there's that stuff in the 470 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,440 beginning, but I mean, yeah, it's a demo of the game. 471 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,599 Of course it's gonna be I guess spoilers per se. It's very good though, 472 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,440 Jeff, it's very good that demo. Yeah, I've heard nothing but 473 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:21,240 good things, and I'm very excited because I enjoy Final Fantasy seven remake who 474 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:26,680 quite a bit. Obviously remake is just so good. Oh yeah, Sumi 475 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:29,759 Mech says, is there any song orson of the three reload that you prefer 476 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:37,319 over its original version? Love the show? Maybe? I mean I haven't 477 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:41,799 like done back to back to them, and they sound pretty similar, but 478 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,000 want to be close. The kind of school day song sounds very good. 479 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,599 Mass Destructions does sound great here. I'm not sure if I prefer over the 480 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:52,640 original, but I might the new Nighttime song, which is like a new 481 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:59,640 one very good. Also, it is just such a good soundtrack. It 482 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,799 has been thinking like, man, this Persona three actually still just have the 483 00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:07,960 best soundtrack out of the three you know, modern personas in all very good. 484 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:11,160 It's so good. Yep, Hitch says, as a PC only player, 485 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,519 please tell me Xbox still releases their games day and date going forward in 486 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,960 PlayStation keeps sporting too. Oh yeah, if you're on PC, you're gonna 487 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,519 be. You're gonna be in a great position. Don't worry. Yeah, 488 00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:22,960 I mean, I think that's what like the benefit here of like being a 489 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,119 PC player is that that is just kind of the direction everyone's sore to going 490 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,799 where it's hey, an open platform. I could put my games on here 491 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,680 and it doesn't feel weird. Yeah, you're like, that's why I can't. 492 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,799 I defaulted the PC during the Xbox one and PS four generation. That's 493 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,799 where I was like, Okay, this is where I'm at. I'm very 494 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,599 happy to be over here, because I found those consoles will be a pretty 495 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:47,519 pretty disappointing and then clear it became clear that the industry was going to be 496 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:48,599 moving in that direction anyhow, So I was happy you kind of just to 497 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,720 stay still. But yeah, you're gonna be, You're gonna be just fine. 498 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,680 Uh, And I think that's exactly sort of what's happening here these companies 499 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,640 are spotting. Uh, they are looking for more opportunities that look like PC 500 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:01,599 game. I mean it just throw aren't a lot of those. I mean, 501 00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:05,319 these consoles are becoming more and more like PCs for a while. Now 502 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:09,599 that trench is going to continue. Uh. Edgar Moreno says it's tecking in. 503 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,119 He's black. Samurai says, oh shit, I'm actually on time. 504 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,960 Show usually coincides with the beginning of a Colorado Knight? Is it a Colorado 505 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:22,640 Knight? Jeff, It's not a call. It cannot be a Colorado Knight. 506 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,559 It needs to be a healthy, sleepy boy night. I do like 507 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,759 how much. I didn't think that that would catch on, but people seem 508 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,240 to really like the idea of a Colorado Knight. So happy that that happened. 509 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:42,000 Doctor Ryan says Xbox has lost the butt chug Steve, where's Wort's xpot 510 00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:45,480 killer? Amongst all this? I mean, he's got it right. I 511 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440 mean, I'm pretty sure he's just back in prison, right, Yeah, 512 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,079 I think he's in jail. Just once he gets out, then we'll start 513 00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:54,640 seeing those super chats again. Carlos Lopez says, what are the odds Xbox 514 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,319 drops out of the console space and ghost third party can gain pass in their 515 00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:02,119 ecosystem this without the box. I worry about the future of consoles if Sony 516 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,119 has no competition. I mean it's a chance, but again, like that 517 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:13,400 is a conclusion that we're drawing that One, there's no guarantee that's what's happening, 518 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:19,680 and two would be still quite a bit away there. And then I 519 00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:23,359 worry too about Sony losing that super direct competitor with Xbox, of course, 520 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,440 and there might be consequences from that. There might be higher prices than they 521 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,160 think. There would be higher prices for the consoles. Yes, yeah, 522 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:35,240 that would be bad. But Sony does still compete with Nintendo, even though 523 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,279 like some people pretend that they don't. Of course, that is competition. 524 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,920 Sony will compete with anybody making PC games, and Sony has to compete with 525 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,519 other entertainment models and things like that. So I get it, and I 526 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:52,599 get being like I would say, it's better to be academically interested or intrigued 527 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,480 by it than it is to be maybe worried per se. Yeah we are. 528 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,799 We're sitting here and we are all like looking at Okay, what is 529 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:04,079 the strategy? What are they pulling off? Here. What are they trying 530 00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:09,119 to do and multiple things are happening. I get why people are concerned about 531 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:13,559 this, but this is not what's happening today Today. They are not going 532 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,440 to come through next week and announce that they're getting out of the hardware game 533 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:19,159 and they're going full third party, and it's probably not going to be anything 534 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,199 even close to that. However, I get why people are worried about the 535 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:28,079 slippery slope argument of this. This moment right now could eventually lead to that, 536 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,039 and it gets completely fair because Microsoft is making a pretty big shift. 537 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,719 Earlier in this generation, they one hundred percent were going to make sure these 538 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,960 games were all exclusive to Xbox. A game like Starfield was going to only 539 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,920 be ever playable when it came to a console on Xbox, and now they 540 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,679 are changing that. So they are shifting from one thing to the other. 541 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,920 And the direction they're going is from being very hunkered down and keeping their games 542 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,679 on Xbox to putting them in more places, including PlayStation. So the direction 543 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,559 the wind is blowing is that direction. So I get it, but so 544 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,639 much is going to change between now and when, like like the reality of 545 00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:09,559 this stuff could set end and the strategy has always been bigger than this, 546 00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:15,360 So I just yeah, you can worry about it academically, Like Mike says, 547 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,719 it's just not what's going to be happening right now. Robbie Saul says, 548 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,760 Capcom is a survey right now, please vote for it. Beautiful Joe. 549 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,639 Yeah, that's a like a lot of Burnett account The Beautiful Joe's great. 550 00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,679 Hey, it is very good. I mean, Capcom has so many 551 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,119 capcow is doing great right now, and they very much do have a strategy 552 00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:42,199 of focusing on the big, proven, successful franchises and it has worked for 553 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,760 them. I do hope that they do go back to some of these older 554 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,679 ones like Beautiful Joe, like Dino Crisis, and you know, of course 555 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,400 I want more Mega Man. I want them to figure out something there, 556 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,480 and I don't necessarily I'll take another two D Mega Man game, that's fine. 557 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,920 I kind of want to see something new with Mega Man, for it's 558 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,440 been a long time since we've had that. I'm not know if I'm really 559 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:09,840 realistically expecting some triple A three D shooter platformer, but something new. Yeah, 560 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,119 I hope, uh, I hope there's something comes out of this. 561 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,679 I usually when we get these kind of big surveys, right, Like Atlas 562 00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:19,079 had all those surveys, and we complained about it, asking people one of 563 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:22,880 the persona games on switch and eventually if did happen, these companies listen, 564 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,639 they both changed. They'll even make Rock the Heel if you yell enough, 565 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,599 Apparently, if you're Cody cry Baby, it will happen. Your Cody cry 566 00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:32,920 Baby, you can make things happen. Is there a specific cap confranchise you 567 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,159 really want them to bring back more than anything, just yeah, because every 568 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:40,360 time a fighting game has popped off in the last couple of years, last 569 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,679 year and a half, I should say, and I've been super into it. 570 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,719 I want them to go do one of their other ones, like Dark 571 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,559 Stalkers. I think the Versus series was on that serve. The Versus series 572 00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,239 was on there, and I think the Versus series is probably going to get 573 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,039 the most heat. It is going to get a I mean, I'm surprised 574 00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,280 you even have to ask. Well, Dino Crisis will get the most, 575 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,800 but then after that Ursus maybe, I don't know. People love Versus, 576 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,039 yeah, but it's just a fighting game community, and Versus like a maybe 577 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,519 survival core game community. Georgie says, rather have my girlfriend cheat on me 578 00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:23,400 than Xbox, which was nots in prayers. Georgie's sorry, Georgie. Terry 579 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:30,440 says, why doesn't Xbox simply put quadruple Excuse me? Why doesn't Xbox simply 580 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,599 put Quadruple A skull and bones on game Pass to fix their problems? Are 581 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:38,199 they stupid? This one really got me. I saw earlier and I laughed, 582 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:46,239 why not its quadrup You're just ignoring the fourth? Are your own demis 583 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,400 that any game has ever had? People? Are people? My mentions on 584 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,119 Twitter were like the original Quadruple A game Perfect Dark. I'm like, no, 585 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,880 in a dead space and I think that's phase three in the game. 586 00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:06,199 There is a t shirt you could buy in the in game store that says 587 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,039 Quadruple A because they were saying the game is going to be quad A. 588 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,960 It goes that far back everybody. It's incredible. It's just incredible, Like 589 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,639 Triple A isn't even anything real really, like you know what I mean. 590 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:22,880 I guess it's effective language, but a god Quadruple eh JD. Kemp says 591 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,559 should FAMP Fantasy seven Rebirth be the first slash last SMP Fantasy game I play 592 00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:31,519 yes, No, no play remake. No, Look, do the funniest 593 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,679 thing ever and just play this one, because don't play the one that's gonna 594 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,679 come after. No play the one before. Yeah, JD can't do it. 595 00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:40,400 Rebirth is not a it's okay to not play the one before. He 596 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:44,519 kind of game. I wish it was like it just told more people to 597 00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:47,320 play it. If you think you're interested that you should play Final Fantasy seven 598 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,880 remake you sick of Uh? Which one of us do you think is the 599 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,119 sane one, the one that tell you to play the games in order, 600 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,400 of the one that tell us you just play the weird one and that's it, 601 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,320 the one in the middle. Yeah, you all tell me that, 602 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,679 just Rex, thank you for that. Super Chest says Sony has a chance 603 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,480 to do something really funny. When Microsoft approaches them to have Gears of Or 604 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,960 on PlayStation, say, you know, they they just don't get the license. 605 00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:15,159 It's oh man, that actually would be very flow. How well do 606 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,519 you think Starfield's gonna sell on PlayStation? Probably does like a million, two 607 00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:22,679 million copies. There's a lot of PlayStation users out there, a lot of 608 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,480 PlayStation users. There's a lot of people that like those Potesta Games. I 609 00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,280 mean people who were mad at the time, like because they play a PlayStation 610 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:35,000 and they really liked Fallout and stuff like what do you mean I can't play 611 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,800 Starfield right? Like friends of mine didn't really understand. So if friends that 612 00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:46,039 aren't necessarily tuned into like the around Starfield right exactly. I mean, let's 613 00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:51,039 say the game was an unqualified nine, it would probably sell like ten million 614 00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,719 copies on PlayStation, maybe like five to ten. But as is, at 615 00:39:53,800 --> 00:40:00,440 least two three million copies is well within the realm of possibility. Adam GC 616 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,159 who was joined me by the way for the game mes game code discussions, 617 00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:07,480 So like you, Adam says, I'm excited about what Xbox has to say. 618 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,599 Can't imagine they're announcing they're making Places of five games without talking new hardware 619 00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:15,079 to calm people's nerves Xbox brand it feels like it use so juice anyways. 620 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:17,599 Yeah, is there going to be a good cop to the bad cop? 621 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,599 I think for people who consider it bad news? Is there going to be 622 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:24,360 something else here to kind of spice this up a little? Yeah? I 623 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,480 mean I think Adam Scott it like I think they will talk about and hey, 624 00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:31,480 we have new hardware that we're working on all the time, and of 625 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,280 course we're nowhere near ready to talk about it right now, but we will 626 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,079 in the future because we are still making xboxes that we're here to support that 627 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:45,719 they I can't imagine any of the plan here is to forsake the people who 628 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:52,199 buy games on the through the Xbox ecosystem and spend money on micro transactions through 629 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,760 the Xbox ecosystem. They will not give that stuff up if there's an alternative. 630 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,599 And the alternative is like, well, let's figure out a way to 631 00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:00,800 keep it by keeping people by xboxes, or at least the ones that do 632 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:06,079 keeping them happy. So they will find some way to try to thread that 633 00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:07,480 needle. Whether or not they succeed at that, we'll fucking see, but 634 00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:13,719 they're gonna try. And I always says, does the next Xbox abandon physical 635 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:22,480 media? Yes? Yeah, probably too, I think so. The problem 636 00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:23,960 is like backward compatibilities, like was such a big thing for them, but 637 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,719 they have sort of put that in the back burner and complete kind of almost 638 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,760 completely forgot about it, forgotten about it. But there will be a lot 639 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,519 of people who, like I have all these discs I wanted to work on 640 00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:36,199 my Xbox and maybe they still sell a separate drive. Yeah. I was 641 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:37,840 about to say, they're gonna do the PlayStation five thing where you can like 642 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,719 attach it to the console. Yeah, and if all these things have handheld 643 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,119 ones, like the handheld devices obviously won't have disk drives, so it's like 644 00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:49,360 they will be even more digital going forward. I predict that's going to be 645 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,599 a Soliza for a little bit, and then we're going to hear about how 646 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,840 they sell very few of those. Oh yes, you're gonna have to like 647 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:59,199 order them direct from Microsoft and they'll they're only ever in stock, like once 648 00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,320 a year for like five minutes. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, 649 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,000 me and you are both in agreement that we think, because now the rumor 650 00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,760 is that Thentendo Direct is going to be a partner direct. We both think 651 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,000 Microsoft is going to show up there, and that's why the timing for this. 652 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,599 I mean, listen, I'm not I'm not going to guarantee it for 653 00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:21,079 people or anything like that, but I definitely think that's what's happening here. 654 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:25,639 I started that conversation saying, I think it's it's suspicious that the Xbox Business 655 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,119 update had to wait until next week for some reason. Well, that reason 656 00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,039 might be their games are going to pop up in a Nintendo Direct. That's 657 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,519 what I'm expecting to Jesse. See, I think I know what that C 658 00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,440 stands for, says Hi Mike, Hi Jeff. What are each of your's 659 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,599 favorite WW wrestler currner, old school and your favorite anime? Thank you? 660 00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:46,840 Here's ten bucks, thank you, Jess. My favorite wrestler ever is Sean 661 00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:52,599 Michaels, the Heartbreak Kid. I definitely do like Kenny Omega a lot these 662 00:42:52,679 --> 00:43:00,400 days, though I'm not a giant anime person really. I did really like 663 00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:05,880 the first season of Digimon though, very good stuff when I was a kid. 664 00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:10,679 Wow. Yeah, my favorite wrestler current or old school is probably still 665 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,960 Sting. I really love Sting. I got that's when I got into wrestling, 666 00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:19,719 is when he was being croasting in WCW, and that kind of cheesy 667 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,599 shit is really my jam. Although, hey, I really like Cody Roads 668 00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:25,360 a whole bunch. I'm really enjoying Cody Roads. So yeah, and then 669 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:30,639 fab anime it means cowboy Bebop. It's kind of like a really easy answer. 670 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,719 That's so easy, I feel like I should offer an alternative, So 671 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:38,320 I'll go with fully Koolie. Fully Coolies A really good time says, if 672 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,440 you had an unlimited time to play through an entire game series without worrying about 673 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,800 playing new stuff, what would you choose? Mine would be Yakuza. I'm 674 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,840 a sick oh. I think about things like what if I played every Ultima 675 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,760 game, even though like some of those games are ancient and even like like 676 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,440 they're all weird, Like man, no one talks about Ultimate anymore. I 677 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,480 could be the Ultimate guy. That's gonna be my thing. I've been fantasizing 678 00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:08,760 about a misplay through for a while. Also, I would go this is 679 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,519 like really nerdy stuff. But there is this developer who's been kind of mae. 680 00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:17,559 Jeff Vogel is his name. He runs a studio called Spiderwear Software or 681 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:22,280 Spiderweb Software, and he's been doing that for a very long time, and 682 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,519 he's sort of been making games in the same style for decades, and he 683 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:29,880 reuses his assets so he's able to just put out these games like one after 684 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,800 the other, like Avidon and at Avernum, like they're in these like our 685 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,079 trilogies, and they they're basically just computer RPGs. But I would like to 686 00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:42,039 just spend time playing all that guy's games, mostly because he's given some really 687 00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:47,000 good GDC speeches and I think he's very cool. Kurt Pyres says, any 688 00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:52,559 idea when we should expect Judas? I know it's Ken Levine games and nobody 689 00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:54,480 hold their breath, but doesn't feel like they'd be releasing trailers if he weren't 690 00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:58,599 eight to twelve months out from this. Now, what are we expecting Judas? 691 00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:00,400 Jeff I Gate to twelve months exactly right. I think we get this 692 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,239 by this holiday. That seems most likely. I can even see it as 693 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,239 a January twenty twenty five joint. Why not? Mikey O'Leary says, can't 694 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,440 believe we discussed that Disney Epic deal and didn't mention they had avatar a part 695 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,119 of the concept art fake fans, but also a random Riskers down Under now, 696 00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,320 which blew me away. Wow, I have to see this Rescuers down 697 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,440 Under now, that's incredible. But I mean, of course avatars. They're 698 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,840 like, absolutely avatars, avatars not would like it's definitely its own pillar at 699 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,800 this point, after having two movies make like a billion and a half dollars, 700 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,119 Like, yeah, there they are going to be all in on Disney 701 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,960 in that video game. I wish I could play more. Still, Yeah, 702 00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:44,360 Jesse Norris says, Jeff, you're the best. Mike High just kidding, 703 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,400 you're great too. I personally think that hybrid console solution for Xbox is 704 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,639 the way forward. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, if they 705 00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:57,840 make their own portable doctors console, it's could be great. PlayStation's going to 706 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:04,119 also make one of those. Yeah, but well, yeah, I get 707 00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:07,840 what you're saying, and you're right that that could maybe eat its lunch once 708 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,480 again. Like we're talking about like the way, you know, people don't 709 00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:13,159 feel they need to go get game passed because they're very happy with PlayStation A 710 00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:17,400 plus or whatever. But PlayStation is almost assuredly going to stick with a MD 711 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:25,199 and AMD's mobile processors are getting better, uh clearly that that's what's in a 712 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:30,840 Steam deck and so, and that's that's pretty good actually. But if Microsoft 713 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,840 does the thing and does go with ARM, does go with Nvidia, does 714 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,960 go with Intel, even they could be in a situation where it's like, 715 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,400 yeah, you can have the PlayStation thing that it's and it runs the games 716 00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:45,599 pretty good, but the battery is like an hour and it's it's not the 717 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:49,320 kind of thing that you're going to be using all the time. The Xbox 718 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,440 handheld could very easily be as powerful, if not more powerful, with a 719 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:58,760 mobile chip, because the mobile power processors are getting more powerful faster than the 720 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,320 desktop chips are getting more efficient. So Microsoft could have something just as powerful 721 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:08,159 or more powerful and also have two three four hour battery life, and then 722 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,639 if they look really good in that comparison, maybe they could pull something off. 723 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,519 The bad news for them is Microsoft kind of iffy on hardware. Sony 724 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,840 often very very good at hardware. So like that scenario I laid out, 725 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,079 there's no guarantee that that happens, and Sony could just as easily put great 726 00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:29,960 engineers on it and fix these problems. Thank you to Kevin Elliott for joining 727 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,639 the Hamilton Tire Here on YouTube, Jordan Andrews says, do you think people 728 00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:37,880 will feel different if this Xbox situation turns out to be a year plus exclusivity 729 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,719 on every game? Still? Secondly, is this going to be as bass 730 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,400 people think? Or is there some overreacting? It's two forty five am there, 731 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,559 Hey, good evening or morning, Jordan, Yeah, I mean, 732 00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:52,440 do you think they're going to lay out in pretty clear terms that there's still 733 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:58,800 going to be a pretty big exclusivity window for Xbox here. Yes, absolutely, 734 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,679 yeah, because that's that's what's happening here. This is not every game 735 00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:05,760 you said it case by case. They're going to say that, and then 736 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,760 the follow up sentence will be like, and if you want to play these 737 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,239 games first, better, best, I mean, honestly, that's what they 738 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,599 said early on, right when they were making these acquisitions, and when they 739 00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,679 got Bethesda, that was one of the phrases. It's like, either it's 740 00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:22,360 going to be first on Xbox, better on Xbox, or or exclusive to 741 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,440 Xbox. And it's like that will still be true, and they'll ride that 742 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,079 point home and the exclusivity window will be probably about a year for most of 743 00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,480 these games. Indiana Jones is the one where they're like, oh, that 744 00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:37,280 could come out a couple months later. But that one was I think originally 745 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,039 supposed to be day and date on both consoles, and then Microsoft negotiated an 746 00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:45,599 exclusivity window. It seems like, so that one's not going to be one 747 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:46,360 to be able to point to and be like, that's going to happen with 748 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,079 all these games robot. Jim says, y'all are great. Just wanted to 749 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:53,639 say I like my Xbox series s. It's a great upgrade from a regular 750 00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:59,679 PS four. As Sinbet says, shinente compass of your heart. Probably so 751 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,199 that wrong. I think my series excels a bunch too. Absolutely hardware. 752 00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:07,960 I know, like Dan Reichert was one of the people I was thinking about 753 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,599 once, like he just likes playing games on his Xbox and he's not thinking 754 00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:13,559 about any of this shit. He just prefers the Xbox right now, and 755 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,880 he preferred the PlayStation four last generation. So for those people, just like, 756 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:21,079 just keep playing your Xbox. Georgie says, I fought this war for 757 00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:24,039 no reason. Phil is a trader. This is the guy who's sad that 758 00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:28,559 thing about the girlfriend. Remember sure. Georgie also says, better, I 759 00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:32,320 see Phil Stewart booty resignation next week. Well I don't think that's happening, 760 00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,199 No, probably not, probably not, But I mean they're definitely feeling the 761 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,000 heat. I mean that that's undeniable that this is happening because they're not making 762 00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:45,199 enough money. They need to make more money. So if you are so 763 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,079 invested into this that you have opinions about who should be running that company. 764 00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:53,320 Then hey, this might be the moment where eventually that does break. But 765 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,119 as it stands, they're not going to be announcing their retirement next week or 766 00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:01,960 anything like that. One here is from Jesse against is bring back Breath of 767 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,679 Fire. Yeah, they should maybe do something with breath That was in the 768 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,480 survey as well. Right, Yeah, remix are probably gonna be what happens 769 00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:15,400 there, especially if three or four Uh, it's hard, like what does 770 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,719 a new Breath of Fire look like these days? Can you put persona kind 771 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,159 of money into that? Uh, they'll be a hard time figuring out final 772 00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:27,039 fantasy in some ways. Right, So now you're going to bring back beth 773 00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:30,559 of Fire? Make that work? I don't know. I hope so that 774 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:32,880 would be neat. Hopefully you can do better than that mobile game, which 775 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,519 I think as of now is the last Breath of Fire release. Is Breath 776 00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:40,480 of Fire? Not? Is that the Squerenix or Capcom? It's Capcom? 777 00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:43,559 Okay, this Capcom. So it is what I saw in that survey. 778 00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:45,119 Okay, thank you. Yeah it's rough, Yeah, yeah it is. 779 00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,840 I'm sorry if I said something there, No, No Georgie said, kids 780 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,840 move Tim dog Claw, Brill left Phil is a failure? What okay, 781 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,840 what's Tim Dogg? Tim Dogg is one of these? All those all three 782 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,280 of them are Xbox like fan accounts on Twitter that like through a lot of 783 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,119 cheerleading and like cloud Real colob Real does like a lot of like here's an 784 00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:12,199 image of all the Xbox exclusives. Uh, and it looks like an official 785 00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,239 marketing image, and they like put out there and then Xbox like real Xbox 786 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:21,360 executive accounts or leadership accounts will retweet these things like they're kind of pillars in 787 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:27,760 the community, but there they also could be very very jumpy and toxic to 788 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,239 some degree, and uh and Microsoft is embraced them. And now it's like, 789 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,639 hey, you're kind of bathing in the bath and the dishwater that you 790 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,039 made there and you got to deal with it. Okay. So they have 791 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,760 they have all, they're all, I mean, they have all voiced discontent. 792 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:45,400 I'm I'm glad I didn't know they were. Oh yeah, no, 793 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,159 you're You're a much better person for not knowing who they were. Like absolutely, 794 00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:54,320 Lurk Girkin says, is Microsoft becoming soft? Sony and Nintendo are out 795 00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:02,639 here dropping sock bombs and Microsoft like, I'll have an olduls please. I 796 00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:08,280 think that they are. So we talked about Napoleon to Dan Reicherts, So 797 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,559 I'm ready to drop some Napoleon references. Are you ready, Mike? I 798 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,239 think I think Microsoft is realizing the way to win in some scenarios is maybe 799 00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:22,559 to retreat and like live to fight another day and let them chase you a 800 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:29,280 little bit and find find your window of opportunity. I think Microsoft has enough 801 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:35,639 money to because otherwise you fucking lose to Napoleon is what I found out trying 802 00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:38,079 to fight the fucker, You're just gonna lose. So yeah, I think 803 00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,480 that they're like, hey, every time we try to go head to head, 804 00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:45,360 we kind of beef it. We need to we need to regroup. 805 00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:47,639 We need to think about what we have that we do well, and we 806 00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:51,360 need to play to those strengths, and then we need to find ways to 807 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,559 amplify those strengths. And right as they stand today, they don't have a 808 00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:57,880 lot of great opportunities to do that because game Pass is sort of tapped out. 809 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,239 That was the plan, it's it's kind of it's zenith. Maybe they 810 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,199 can find new ways to grow. It's that's exactly what we're talking about here. 811 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,639 It's gonna take a couple of years for them to figure out what a 812 00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:09,239 new strategy fully looks like. And in the moment, they're like, we 813 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,880 got to make as much money as we can to keep making this stuff all 814 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,559 makes sense. So yeah, this is not them going away. This is 815 00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:19,760 in finding a new way to fight. The new way of fighting just may 816 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,960 not look like how you want it to look. And I'm sorry if that's 817 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,480 the case. Eco Coola says, well, Halo ever be as big as 818 00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:31,039 it once was. Again, I hate sitting there saying never, but I 819 00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:35,639 still think that Halo if. And it was actually a very good video game. 820 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,039 Every time I play it, I love I fucking love that game. 821 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:42,559 That's a great game. And yeah, and it didn't do much right yeap. 822 00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:46,079 In fact, people generally associate it with kind of bad things. It 823 00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:50,559 has like a negative reaction to most people. And it's all about it's it's 824 00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:53,039 the content because at a certain point we get to this place where it's like 825 00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:57,760 sitting down and having fun playing a game with your friends for a couple of 826 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,639 weeks is not acceptable. If you say you're a live service game, you 827 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:06,360 better come with the content, and it never did. Yeh. So, 828 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,440 I mean, I don't know if they're gonna get in a position where cuddinly 829 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,719 they can. People say it's in a great spot now, yes, sounds 830 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,400 a great so not but not many people are playing it exactly exactly yes, 831 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,679 uh, Jirostin, I mean, yeah, it's great. I wish more 832 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,199 people were putting it. Jir Austin says, I feel for the people here 833 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:28,519 the hashtag Xbox cry babies. It will be okay, I promise, just 834 00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:32,880 ask Roman Reigns. He got his way totally epic open world, said Microsoft 835 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,360 to announced ABK games on game Pass next week. I guess that could be 836 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,519 kind of the bright side thing, like look at all these old Activision Blizzard 837 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:44,159 games gonna be on game Pass. Certainly we're gonna even give you those Transformer 838 00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:46,159 games you thought you weren't gonna get. Ye I don't know, yep, 839 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:52,039 definitely, pretty dude says I don't know if it's funny or sad that places 840 00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:59,880 your fans got Xbox games before a Bloodborne remakes last. That's that's funny. 841 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,920 Actually Yep, yeah, I don't know. I still don't know, Like 842 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,719 I said, it was always like from software just wanting to be involved in 843 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,400 that. And I don't know what's preventing them from being involved in that. 844 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:12,039 Maybe they are at this point, I don't know. Trentendo says, if 845 00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:15,719 Xbox Sense games to switch, is it only recent slash new releases or do 846 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,880 they go deeper into the back catalog. I hope they go deeper in the 847 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,280 back catalog. I hope we get rare replay, like you know how put 848 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,679 Crack Down three on switch? I never got to play that. Put it 849 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,800 on the switch too, and I'll play Crack three this time, I promise, 850 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,559 Yeah, Down three put even they put someone like the older Forts of 851 00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:37,519 Horizons on switch, that'd be foul that. You know, the issue there 852 00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:40,840 is the licensing of the vehicles, so they would probably have a difficult time 853 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,199 with that. But all the other examples, you're right, You're right. 854 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,360 I hope that they look much further back than what we're talking about. I 855 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,920 don't know what would stop them from doing that, And maybe they have some 856 00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,039 math. They're like, people aren't talking about these things anymore, so they 857 00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:58,440 just wouldn't sell very well. And I suppose we see like even for like 858 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,280 a PlayStation five game like sack Boy that can come to Steam and no one 859 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,960 cares, and maybe that wasn't worth the effort. But I don't know. 860 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,719 I just make something matter by telling us it matters and treating it like a 861 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,519 big deal, and that could be cool. Give us rise Son of Rome. 862 00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:19,000 Finally and speaking finally, last one here for no Georgie says, can't 863 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,280 wait for this plan to backfire. Phil will lose the hardcore and Xbox sales 864 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,039 will drop even further. We'll loll at Phil resignation. Absolute con man. 865 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,599 He capitalized the armed resignation, so it looks like his name to be Phil 866 00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:37,000 Resignation, Phil resignation. Hey, it'll be all right, Georgie, plan 867 00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:42,199 my backfire. Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a lot of great 868 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,519 games coming out, Like there's like there's great games still coming out all the 869 00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:47,280 time everywhere. I mean, I don't know what to tell you guys. 870 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,400 If like I get at you're anxious and all this stuff, but like, 871 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:58,679 yeah, go play a game. But like I see people responding about, 872 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,199 hey that this, you know, you don't play on console like the normal 873 00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:02,960 person does, and it's just like I don't know what to tell you. 874 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,840 Guys, I've been saying for ten years the way games have been made from 875 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,239 these big companies has been unsustainable. That's been the theme of this show basically 876 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:17,159 since we fucking started it, and things coming to a head for Xbox while 877 00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:20,760 you look over at PlayStation and they're not putting out a lot of games either, 878 00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:22,920 Like, what do you guys think is happening right now? That happened, 879 00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:28,440 And so if you are interested in playing games, go fucking find the 880 00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:30,440 video games that you want to play. They're out there, I promise, 881 00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:36,840 They're just not always coming from companies called Sony and Microsoft. They're everywhere. 882 00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:39,719 So just except that, like things have changed is my best piece of advice 883 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,320 to everybody, because you can find a lot of happiness and gaming still if 884 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,639 you just go look for it outside of where we have been getting it for 885 00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:51,079 thirty years. I get it's hard to change habits, and maybe it's so 886 00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:54,239 hard that gaming isn't for you anymore. I also think that that's perfectly okay 887 00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:00,320 if you were invested in Xbox so hard that them changing their strategy kind of 888 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,880 poisons the whole thing for you. I respect that. I understand that to 889 00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:07,639 a point. I'm a very loyal person as well. If Nintendo changed things 890 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,320 up to a certain degree, I would be very sad. So I get 891 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,519 that. But if you are, if you are still interested in playing games, 892 00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:17,039 they're out there, just go find them. We should all just get 893 00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:22,559 dreamcasts and retro tanks. And that sounds a great time. That sounds so 894 00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:25,159 good to me. Get that real fun. Everybody needs a Cuba Bar in 895 00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:30,519 their life. Yeah, I'll be playing Cuba Bar. It's only five hundred 896 00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:36,000 bucks. Probably the price is probably down dramatic li since I bought it. 897 00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:38,719 That's it for the superchats for now. Thanks too, all so much obviously 898 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,440 a lot of super chats. Yeah, everybody, I really appreciate. If 899 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,119 you want to send in more, we will read them, even the ones 900 00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:49,440 that get Jeff shoot Hot, Baby shoot Hot. Oh. Here's one write 901 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,199 now from Hum drum Dog Go two one one says it's their fault, bro, 902 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:59,400 they launched tailor forts a red fall in trash States in Zero Games and 903 00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:04,320 Zero Games twenty two two. Stop blaming fans. I just stop making him 904 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:09,679 shoot hot. It's Phil and Booty's fault are But like I'm not, Yeah, 905 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,119 it is fill Yeah, of course they should. They should have made 906 00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:15,480 better video games. I think it's weird that anybody takes anything that you say 907 00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:19,760 as like some defensive executives there. I don't know, right, yeah, 908 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,559 but like why don't we I really have a hard time understanding like blaming fans. 909 00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:25,280 I'm just explaining to you what's happening, that's all. I don't think 910 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,280 there's no blaming of fans. Is just saying that the calm down. Nobody's 911 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:34,519 Yeah, definitely not they could trust me as as we learned today, the 912 00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:37,840 Xbox fans sure did try their darkness. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, they 913 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:43,199 did everything. Yeah, maybe it is hard for sure, but like they 914 00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:46,719 they should not have released Redfall like that. They should have had more content 915 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:51,840 for Halo, of course. And if those guys have, like I think 916 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,559 we just got done saying like this could be the beginning of the end for 917 00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:58,280 Phil and that Booty and absolutely could. We'll say, you know, maybe, 918 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,480 yeah, maybe if they were going to talk up star our Field the 919 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,199 way that they did, they just generational game, maybe they should have. 920 01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:07,119 You know, again, Starfield's not a bad game, but you know, 921 01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:09,440 I don't know if they really believed in it that much. And that we 922 01:00:09,559 --> 01:00:14,119 just don't agree or if they were trying to kind of make it that game, 923 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,079 right, if they knew it wasn't, but it wasn't. And let's 924 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:22,239 just to reiterate, this is the strategy failing like that is what has happened 925 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,280 here. Like that's where I thought that, Like that, we started this 926 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:30,400 conversation by saying that that they were going to keep all these games exclusive to 927 01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:34,039 Xbox compared to PlayStation, you know, PC. Notwithstanding they were going to 928 01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:37,440 keep these games off of PlayStation. They they decided to do that with Starfield, 929 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:38,760 they were going to do that with Elder Scroll six. I've seen the 930 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,840 map, like I've said a bunch of times, I've seen the paperwork where 931 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,119 they looked at this and they looked at all the options and the like, 932 01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:45,280 we'll lose a lot of money if we do this, but we think it'll 933 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,119 be worth it because of the growth and our strategy will work in all these 934 01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:53,239 other ways that has failed. So they are shifting gears because they have failed, 935 01:00:53,719 --> 01:00:58,480 and so they're trying something else. Okay, if they get they get 936 01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:00,000 fired. I mean, listen, that's just not my job to fire them. 937 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,119 I don't know like that, if they could try the strategy, it 938 01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:06,159 works or it doesn't and you could be happy with it or not be happy 939 01:01:06,199 --> 01:01:09,119 with it. I don't see whether other options are available to us. Remember 940 01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:15,159 when when when we were the Xbox fan boys and the Sony haters because you 941 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,000 like said something mean about Jim Ryan once, yeah, like returnal and I 942 01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:22,480 had like some Xbox leaks, so people just assumed, yeah, it was 943 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,800 great, it was great. Good stop. We did get a few more. 944 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:29,239 Actually it's snuck in here to Tenderrek says, thank you everybody. Kind 945 01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:31,840 of weird to see people complaining about a lack of games after twenty twenty three, 946 01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:36,079 when the best years in gaming ever give up all the good work, 947 01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:40,199 guys that gets under Yeah, I mean January also just just insane. So 948 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,960 it's been a NonStop for me. Yeah, just incredible bangers. Prince of 949 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,159 Persia not that long ago when the best game taking me a long time. 950 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,760 Incredible. Daniel Falconeer says pessimistic about Xbox as a Microsoft fan, but look 951 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,679 at Sony games on PC now. Marathon announced for Xbox might just be the 952 01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:00,039 way of the industry. Yeah, I mean, hey, look like just 953 01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:06,159 because the placers new fans feel like, uh like they won something here Sony's 954 01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:08,480 gonna have the same issues with the future of consoles and what that's going to 955 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:12,840 mean, and how that's going to compete with what PC games are, and 956 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,960 how expensive it is to makings and how difficult it is to run. Their 957 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,199 audience is not getting that much bigger, Like it's not. It just isn't 958 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,760 like. Their audience is not growing and their costs are growing unsustainable. Again, 959 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,400 it's just what's happening. So, yes, there will be a reckoning 960 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,719 for everybody involved, and Nintendo's finding some ways to make it work by keeping 961 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:36,800 costs down. That's how they're doing it. Uh. Derochi says, I 962 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,920 wish my last name was Booty. We all know, we all do. 963 01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:43,079 Absolutely, Yeah, be Travin says Starfield is a bad game. Jesse Norris 964 01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:45,079 says Starfield is a good game. Great even so we'll let those two figure 965 01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:47,599 that out. Yeah, exactly. You guys have a conclaven, come back 966 01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:52,280 and let us know what you decide. I'm drum dog two to one once 967 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,880 is uh, I don't care not playing hopefully too avowed or any of Jones. 968 01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:00,119 Xbox is dead to me, all right to you here, you're allowed 969 01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:05,719 to have that opinion. Mikey Oleary says, but what does all this Xbox 970 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,199 news mean for Tommy tallerco? Yeah, very proud of him. What does 971 01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:14,599 he come back out of hiding? I should have happen eventually, right, 972 01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:16,360 I think we know that he's the kind of person that can't stay hidden forever. 973 01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:21,880 So we'll see probably by probably by next month, I'll say, and 974 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,320 put video here, says, if we keep sending super chats, maybe Jeff 975 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:30,679 will fall asleep on stream, maybe fucking maybe, and put vibes here or 976 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,920 video here. She give me a medosas thank you Phil for best chief on 977 01:03:36,039 --> 01:03:39,320 Switch to It returns. I'm happy to share the cheapy rebo zip last year 978 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:46,199 to ext the best of the cheepy robos, nothing but the best for Phil. 979 01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:52,239 And then uh, Kevin says, would you play Lost Odyssey if they 980 01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:55,239 came to Switch? Oh? That was that's like number one now, Kevin, 981 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,719 Oh, I play Lost odysty and Switch immediately. That would rule it 982 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,400 up. God, if we even did a little work and it was like 983 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,639 a remaster, just like a little sprucing up, that would be Amazing'd be 984 01:04:05,679 --> 01:04:11,800 cool. How what do Blue drag it all? So? Why the I'm 985 01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:16,119 generous Matt Rare Monkey says PlayStation can grow from all the Xbox fans. Now, 986 01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:20,039 yeah, maybe maybe you don't what you want to know the secret though 987 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:28,199 most of them already have PlayStations. They already have them, Matt, they 988 01:04:28,199 --> 01:04:31,719 have them. Come on, all right, I think for real, Sy, 989 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,000 that's it for now with the Super Jets. We will read the rest 990 01:04:36,159 --> 01:04:39,679 later, but we're gonna take up break. We're gonna play a game or 991 01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:42,360 two. I'm not sure will we have ready today. I We'll be right 992 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:47,760 back. I don't know why I'm doing that. This is it's all coming 993 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:54,280 apart everybody, and we're back and we're gonna do best Games of twenty fourteen, 994 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,679 although I think we are. We have started getting more supert do twenty 995 01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:01,320 fourteen. Last time, listen, I didn't update this someone. I thought 996 01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:06,840 that I saw twenty fourteen minus one, Mike, But no, you haven't 997 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:13,599 done twenty the best talk about Ray Legends. But maybe I was thinking of, 998 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,800 oh, there's a port okay, never mind. No, we're good. 999 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,320 We're good. I'm sorry. Best Games of twenty fourteen here's what we 1000 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,880 do. We discussed the best games of the year. Me and Mike pick 1001 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,920 the five best and we rank them. We get input from our podcast producers 1002 01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:29,119 and people who drop super chats, so feel free to do that as well. 1003 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,239 You get thrown out in chat as well. Well. You know, 1004 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,920 it always helps if you're reminded of something that we're missing. Yes, Mikey, 1005 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,480 where are we going to start? When it comes to twenty fourteen, 1006 01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:42,360 I'm weird. It was this one of the weird years. This is like 1007 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,679 the weird year in terms of the best thing. That Dragon Age Inquisition one 1008 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,800 the weird wars. And I remember thinking, I don't necessarily disagree, but 1009 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,400 that's a weak year to yes, exactly, And I guess we could talk 1010 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,400 about Dragon Eagecquisition, which I think is a good video game. I don't 1011 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,119 think there's much about it, but I think back on a lot. I 1012 01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:05,559 think it did a good job of keeping some of the streamlined combat from Dragon 1013 01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:11,239 h two but making into a game that felt bigger than that obviously small skill 1014 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,519 game. I don't think the skill is still nearly as good as Dragon Age 1015 01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:16,400 Origins, and I don't think the role playing is nearly as good as in 1016 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,880 Dragon Age Origins, but it was definitely an improvement. There's obviously a lot 1017 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:24,079 of people who still like that game a lot. It's it's fine for me. 1018 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,320 Well, then the other game that won Game of the Year from some 1019 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,360 outlets was, uh the Mortar. What's the fucking name of that game? 1020 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:43,159 That was the Nemesis System. Yeah, Shadow of Mordor. I really liked 1021 01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:45,159 it at the time, and over time I've been like, did I like 1022 01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:47,880 that? And then whenever I think about it, the answer is, yes, 1023 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,960 that is a good video game. I just for some reason don't put 1024 01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:55,960 it into my top echelon. Like when I was doing my top one one, 1025 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,880 I don't think I considered it. Yeah, I know what you mean. 1026 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,239 I didn't even I don't know why, but I didn't consider it. 1027 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,199 You're right, But like I liked it a lot, but even when the 1028 01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:06,559 sequel came out, and the sequel was largely more the same, I kind 1029 01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:12,159 of barely played it right exactly. Yeah, so that definitely listen. Twenty 1030 01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:14,239 fourteen might be a week year. We'll see as we get into more of 1031 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,000 it. Maybe there's a lot of stuff I'm not thinking about yet. Jesus 1032 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,599 fucking Christ, Mario Kart eight came out twenty fourteen, so yeah, we'll 1033 01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:25,800 definitely consider it for now. I think that is a It's still a very 1034 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,440 good game and probably was my game of the year at the time if I 1035 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,119 can't because I can't remember my list exactly, but I probably probably gave it 1036 01:07:31,159 --> 01:07:36,480 to that game. So it's oh yeah, man, Bravely. Default had 1037 01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:42,519 come out in every other territory before twenty fourteen, but North America did not 1038 01:07:42,519 --> 01:07:46,800 get it till twenty fourteen. I like really Default a lot. It's you 1039 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:53,719 know, it has the final Fantasy five job system pretty directly. I thought 1040 01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:56,519 it had some really fun characters. I know some people think the back half 1041 01:07:56,599 --> 01:07:59,159 is kind of repetitive, but there is a reason for it, and there's 1042 01:07:59,239 --> 01:08:02,719 kind of a fun pay off to that. Very good music though, incredible 1043 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,360 soundtrack, one of my favorites. So yeah, lots of love for Barely 1044 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:13,800 Default from me. Can I ask you a question, Mike, No hard 1045 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,720 yet Stone. Oh, I'll just stay it as a statement. Then Hearthstone. 1046 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:24,720 Herstone was this year, fucking twenty fourteen, ten years ago. I 1047 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:31,479 love Harstone. I played Harstone regularly for like six seven years. It's weird 1048 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,840 because, like, when you play one of these games, sometimes all you 1049 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,800 take away is that I don't play that anymore. Even though I played it 1050 01:08:38,039 --> 01:08:42,239 regularly for at least six years. It's insane. I even got to reveal 1051 01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:45,319 some cards. I had a lot of fun with Harstone throughout its run. 1052 01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:47,880 I even have some friends who are playing it again. I almost like feel 1053 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,319 the call to go back there. It is still getting support, it is 1054 01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:55,880 still going. That is impressive. I still think it is the best of 1055 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,479 all the digital card games that we ever got. There's like that very good 1056 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,520 Magic one, but Harstone was made for this four bet in a way that 1057 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,600 Magic just never was and still feels a little bit better to me. And 1058 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,319 early, even right away, Harstone was a ton of fun. Even like 1059 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,319 Vanilla was just the first couple expansions. I thought those sets were all good. 1060 01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:17,159 They had a pretty good way of adding new mechanics for a while. 1061 01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:20,560 It took, of course, eventually it got convoluted. It kind of took 1062 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:25,680 a while, and when that happened, they made new modes like battleak grounds 1063 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,359 of things that kept it interesting. I love Harpstone. Harstone's great. You 1064 01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:33,640 know what going up for consideration. The one game that I'm like pretty dead 1065 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:39,239 set on is titan Fall. I Fall won this year. Yeah, titan 1066 01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:42,560 Fall, we would have been like the immediate year after the launch of the 1067 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,479 Xbox One, right, it wasn't there day one, but basically in that 1068 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,960 launch window in the beginning of twenty fourteen, I had a three to sixty 1069 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:54,960 four Yes, got from Blue Point titan Fall. I think I spent about 1070 01:09:55,119 --> 01:09:58,119 twelve hundred to fifteen hundred hours on that multiplayer mode. I mean there only 1071 01:09:58,199 --> 01:10:02,039 is the multiplayer mode. Love titan Fall. It is very good in some 1072 01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:06,079 ways. I think the titan Fall one multiplayer is better than the titan Fall 1073 01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:11,279 two multiplayer. A lot of it is taste like getting titan Fall two just 1074 01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:14,760 tries to change things up to like keep things moving in certain ways, and 1075 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,640 it's it's smart in a lot of ways. But I think in terms of 1076 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,560 just raw having a good time, I think I prefer titan Fall one in 1077 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:25,039 the multiplayer mode, and that was. Yeah, it's a great, great, 1078 01:10:25,039 --> 01:10:28,239 great game. I definitely played more of titan Fall one's multiplayer. I 1079 01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:30,279 played a ton of it. It was a lot of them. Maybe the 1080 01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:33,960 last time I really played a console shooter like a lot like that, and 1081 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:40,600 I squad of everything. It kind of felt like like if that started with 1082 01:10:41,079 --> 01:10:44,279 modern warfare. This kind of felt like the going away party for that really 1083 01:10:44,359 --> 01:10:46,680 really interesting and good point. Yes, that's exactly how I feel about that, 1084 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,039 And there was a spectacle to it because of the scale of the Titans. 1085 01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:55,600 Yeah, titan Fall one was fantastic. I love it. Sorry, 1086 01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:01,840 just Nick's super chat hashtag lock fill up. Alright, let's let's relax, 1087 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:08,479 everybody. I don't think he's going to jail. Probably not prob. I 1088 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,239 know, it's like, I know, it's disgusting that, like an idiot 1089 01:11:12,279 --> 01:11:15,960 Joe's game was gonna be on placeation, but right, oh my god, 1090 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,039 right, it's it's just an immoral it's not a criminal. Sorry, everybody, 1091 01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:21,520 Like how we're like doing our fun, Like what were the best games 1092 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:28,000 of twenty fourteen? There's still some people like somebody's gonna do something, Spencer. 1093 01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,600 I'm assuming that Nick's having some fun here because that one's too funny before. 1094 01:11:31,359 --> 01:11:39,159 But that's great. Oh, south Park The Stick of Truth was actually 1095 01:11:39,239 --> 01:11:43,560 fantastic. That's a great game. It was cool to kind of just be 1096 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,239 at this time where like, not that South Park is the most high fidelity 1097 01:11:45,279 --> 01:11:47,239 thing in the world, but like, oh yeah, we could just make 1098 01:11:47,279 --> 01:11:51,680 the game look exactly like that show, and it has that the paper Mario 1099 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:57,119 style combat in a fun way. It did a really good job like integrating 1100 01:11:57,159 --> 01:12:00,439 all these different south Park characters, and because it was just those people, 1101 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,279 it felt just like that. And I was out a point where south Park 1102 01:12:02,359 --> 01:12:06,560 was pretty funny, and the game is also very funny. It's it's funny, 1103 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:11,239 and it's it does the thing that I'm appreciating when as I'm playing like 1104 01:12:11,279 --> 01:12:15,880 a Dragon Infinite Wealth. I like games that are set in the real world 1105 01:12:15,079 --> 01:12:19,479 and the fantasy is happening in the character's heads. So there's like this this 1106 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:25,920 abstract layer between you and the fantasy, and it's it almost makes it feel 1107 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,920 more fantastical and more fun, and like the things that are happening can like 1108 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,720 anything can happen, like uh and and I think south Park really was one 1109 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,840 of the earlier games to nail that tone, and they did it does a 1110 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,600 really good job with that. So yeah, I like I like that game 1111 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,920 a whole bunch. Yeah. Yeah, definitely still one of the better licensed 1112 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:48,000 games ever released. Probably Let's I did have another one. I were Oh, 1113 01:12:48,079 --> 01:12:51,319 Nitthog, Mike, have you ever played Nithog? I'm not played Nidthog. 1114 01:12:53,119 --> 01:12:57,560 I Nitthog is especially as someone who's been into fighting games recently, Nidhog 1115 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,439 is like a reduced to like fighting, Like every of the both characters are 1116 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,039 the exact same. It's all just about trying to get to one side of 1117 01:13:04,039 --> 01:13:09,840 the screen by defeating your opponent in a series of battles and their sword battles, 1118 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,520 and you got to pick high, lower, medium, and you can 1119 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,439 throw your sword and you can jump over them, and it's like, you 1120 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,960 know this basic move set and then from there how that plays out is so 1121 01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:25,079 thrilling, so exciting. During the bomiton, I got into a probably like 1122 01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:30,239 twenty minute like one match with Austin Welker that was just so so fun. 1123 01:13:30,359 --> 01:13:32,880 It was such a good time, and I've had multiple matches like that in 1124 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:38,279 my time playing didhog is It's just like a pure game. It's like so 1125 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:43,279 well designed that I kind of wouldn't change anything about it. Here's a big 1126 01:13:43,319 --> 01:13:46,760 one, actually, I think maybe in retrospect what I would probably have called 1127 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,800 game of the year, Shovel Knight, came out at twenty fourteen. JET 1128 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:56,640 Oh hell yeah. Shovel Knight is a wonderful game of all the games where 1129 01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,760 it's like we're gonna make our own indie A bit style game. It's by 1130 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,079 far the best. It feels so good. It does bring in all these 1131 01:14:04,079 --> 01:14:09,800 mechanics from things like Mega Man and Castlevania, even Ducktails, but still feels 1132 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:15,199 really unique, just incredibly well crafted levels, a ton of fun power ups, 1133 01:14:15,279 --> 01:14:19,039 really good bosses, and then eventually it just gets all these expansions that 1134 01:14:19,079 --> 01:14:25,359 are just as good, incredible what this package eventually became. But even from 1135 01:14:25,399 --> 01:14:30,000 the beginning, tons of fun. I love Shovel Night. Yeah, I 1136 01:14:30,199 --> 01:14:33,000 echo all that. I adore Shovel Night. I really like that. I 1137 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,760 think you were like an early cheerleader. Now. I was always like, 1138 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,960 of course I'm gonna like this game, but then hearing how much you liked 1139 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,960 it, I got in there and I was like, Yep, this is 1140 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,479 fantastic. Also a bunch of people in chatter saying you would like Nidthog, 1141 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,039 and I'd rather he not because I think he would be really, really good 1142 01:14:47,039 --> 01:14:50,920 at it. I don't need that in my life. I don't need that 1143 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:59,079 for you. Let me live. But yes, I'm right there for Shovel 1144 01:14:59,159 --> 01:15:01,479 Night. Couple of other questions, Mike Destiny, how do you feel about 1145 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,600 that? Yeah, it's weird. I did like Destiny one, it was 1146 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:10,680 fun. I liked the raid. It just it always seemed to have like 1147 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,760 one problem that would be annoying at a time, and then that when the 1148 01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:18,119 Taking King expansion came out, that's when it finally felt like a really good 1149 01:15:18,199 --> 01:15:23,840 hole. But then they rebooted with Destiny two and then there's kind of new 1150 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,960 problems but better improvements. So I know Destiny has always been in a weird 1151 01:15:27,039 --> 01:15:30,760 place for me. Uh, the other question, and then we can maybe 1152 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,119 if you don't have anything else immediately, and if you do, we can 1153 01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:34,359 get to that. We can go to the podcast producers. But the other 1154 01:15:34,399 --> 01:15:40,479 one would be Super Smash Brothers for Nintendo three DS and WEU I think this 1155 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,600 was my game of the year at the time because back then I didn't know 1156 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,520 that we were just going to get a better version of it on the switch, 1157 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:47,760 right. Yeah, So that's kind of the weird thing. So I'm 1158 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,119 kind of like, well, what do I do here? I don't really 1159 01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:55,079 I almost don't feel like this need to like prop it up when it was 1160 01:15:55,159 --> 01:15:57,479 good and part of it for me, I don't I really don't mean to 1161 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,760 start another fight here is because it felt so much better to me. Than 1162 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,199 Brawl did, and it had really good characters in it, like Mega, 1163 01:16:03,319 --> 01:16:08,199 like began Man obviously, but I don't know, this just doesn't seem like 1164 01:16:08,199 --> 01:16:13,319 a very exciting pick because again, we're just gonna get a better version of 1165 01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:17,520 that in five years or whatever. Okay, and do you have anything else 1166 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,520 you want to bring up as I'm bringing up the podcast producers. No, 1167 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,960 I'm trying. I'm looking through this list one by one and I'm in like 1168 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:30,520 December right now. I'm not sure. If I see anything super crazy jumping 1169 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,520 out at me at the moment, maybe can start going through. I might, 1170 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,239 Like I didn't put Mario Kart eight up there, I might do that 1171 01:16:36,319 --> 01:16:41,840 because that probably does make sense, and it is still that game. It 1172 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,560 is still that game. Yeah. I mean the lux is better for sure, 1173 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,359 but it's just you know, an enhanced version. Right. Let me's 1174 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,199 here, I'm getting the community. I mean, even on you. I 1175 01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:54,239 think that game manch is sell eight million copies, which is for a system 1176 01:16:54,239 --> 01:16:58,840 that sold like twelve or fourteen million. That is the hardware bananas. That 1177 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,520 is. Yeah. One of the incredit mostly oh man. One of the 1178 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,720 most incredible tidbits of factoids about gaming, ever, is like, how well 1179 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:10,039 that game's sold on a terrible selling system. All Right, I have the 1180 01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:14,439 podcast producers and we'll start here with Wolvenstein The New Order man. Okay, 1181 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,399 well, yes, we could definitely consider that I love this game, that 1182 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,199 I like the way wolfin steined. The New Order plays better than the New 1183 01:17:21,239 --> 01:17:27,039 Colossus in terms of like upgrading your guns and all that stuff. It's just 1184 01:17:27,039 --> 01:17:30,359 better in this game, and yet it's it still has so many of those 1185 01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:35,439 great characters, some of the best scenes in the history of gaming. Jimmy 1186 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,439 Hendricks like, if you haven't seen that, feel free to just go look 1187 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:44,399 it up and watch those scenes. It's so incredible. It is one of 1188 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,840 those games where it's like, Okay, yeah, I'm not a story in 1189 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,960 games person unless I just deeply, deeply fall in love with your characters, 1190 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,960 and then I get everything everyone's always said about how much they love story in 1191 01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:57,399 games, and this is one of those ones that totally won me over. 1192 01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,760 On that. Nick Turbo says Dragon Age Inquisition. Did I say, Dan 1193 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,680 Fiasco said the Wolf It's in a New Order? Dan Fiasco dropped that one. 1194 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:12,640 Let's see, uh, Tommy Pencil says shovel Knight Alex Gogo says destiny. 1195 01:18:13,319 --> 01:18:16,920 Uh. Rex rex Vex says god, what is this called? That 1196 01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:24,479 little non Euclidean mobile game? Oh? The one from Freaking uh the one 1197 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,880 from House of Cards, A House of Cards? Yes, Monument Valley, 1198 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,399 thank you, Brian, the House of Cards game. Yeah. Well, 1199 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,720 I feel like very I feel like very really on in GamesBeat, I had 1200 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:39,119 to write about House of Cards in this game. Oh I'm sure. Yeah. 1201 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,760 The guy that that character in House of Cards is based on is the 1202 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,399 guy that wrote the book about the room that that that that movie was the 1203 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:51,920 adaptation was eventually based on. It's weird. Monument Valley was very good. 1204 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:57,159 I liked Monument Monument Valley a lot. You never played it, I don't. 1205 01:18:57,279 --> 01:18:59,479 I think I played a little bit, so I played nothing crazy. 1206 01:19:00,399 --> 01:19:01,600 It's very much like, Hey, that's one of the good ones when it 1207 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,119 comes to mobile games. Is how I always spoken about it. Jamie H. 1208 01:19:05,239 --> 01:19:11,199 Christmas Eve says A realm reborn? Wait, Mike, did that come 1209 01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:15,039 out in twenty fourteen? Oh my god? That is right, isn't it 1210 01:19:15,319 --> 01:19:17,560 so? Well? I played on twenty thirteen. No, but yeah this 1211 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,399 came out twenty fourteen. Oh no, no, no, it originally came 1212 01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:26,479 out twenty thirteen windows and placeation three first. Okay, did I miss it 1213 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,640 last year? Because that's last year. Yeah, you should have been number 1214 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,319 one. I love a real reborm. But can we say you like the 1215 01:19:33,319 --> 01:19:39,279 final fantasy slot for one of our child ringers come, I might have actually 1216 01:19:39,319 --> 01:19:44,880 consider some some expansions here. Maybe it's our blood course we talk about. 1217 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,000 I mean for time about expansions. I think, is this the year that 1218 01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:51,640 uh Reaper of Souls for Diabo three came out and made that game good? 1219 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,399 It is? It is? It is? It is that year. Yeah, 1220 01:19:55,399 --> 01:19:57,840 that's good. That's well. You know, let's not see anyone mentions 1221 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,680 that because if, if, if it does, we'll see. Uh this 1222 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,000 is what was gonna be when I was gonna ask you about Mike from Low 1223 01:20:02,079 --> 01:20:05,760 Rule, Donkey Kong Country, Tropical Freeze. Now, I know we are 1224 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:10,199 not the biggest lovers of this game. I do still think it is a 1225 01:20:10,239 --> 01:20:13,680 good game. Though I also think it's a good game. I think it 1226 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:17,039 is slightly overrated, perhaps not in some big way, in some I want 1227 01:20:17,079 --> 01:20:20,199 to like present my hot takeaway. I just think it is maybe ever so 1228 01:20:20,319 --> 01:20:25,479 slightly overrated, but I do like it and I wouldn't be upset about considering 1229 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,279 it. Yeah, I think I'm mostly on board with what you just said. 1230 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,640 Uh okay, Flobotron says middle Gear Solid five Ground Zeros. This is 1231 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:38,479 the precursor game, right, This is kind of like the not quite a 1232 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,720 demo, more of like a prologue. Prologue. Yeah, very good, 1233 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,079 very fun to play. I just have a hard time not thinking about just 1234 01:20:45,119 --> 01:20:47,279 how weird they had to make the stuff with Paz and Chico in this because 1235 01:20:47,319 --> 01:20:55,800 they made it real weird, real dark graphic upsetting. Yeah, so maybe 1236 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,920 that's a me problem. But it is very fun. But look, it 1237 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,640 is like this. It is a small thing. Yep, let's see here. 1238 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:08,479 Leely Woe li Wo says Mario. Kart eight definitely up for consideration. 1239 01:21:09,079 --> 01:21:15,199 CRNG just mcbasketball says Shadow of Mordor. Cromulent Eden says Hearthstone joy Ze is 1240 01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:19,479 this Bayonetta two? Bayonetta two? Right? Is uh? She said someone 1241 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,359 fighting on the back of a jet? Was that really? Yes? Is 1242 01:21:23,399 --> 01:21:27,399 that really? Twenty fourteen? Yep? Holy shit, band of two fucking 1243 01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,960 rules. Yes, we better consider Boneta two. Then we are going to 1244 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:30,760 get here. You're right there, it is all right, Yeah, we'll 1245 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,199 consider banet A two two is hot shit. I like that game with the 1246 01:21:35,239 --> 01:21:42,960 whole bunch uh Corley Pho says Titan Fall, Bobo Bops Pop to See Bob 1247 01:21:43,039 --> 01:21:47,800 Fin Rebop says South Park, The Stick of Truth, Cass Buckerusso's Chante and 1248 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,159 the Pirates Curse. I like that game. Oh that's yeah, that's the 1249 01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:54,920 one I've actually played all the way through. I think most people do say 1250 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,720 it's the best one actually, and yeah, it's actually very it is very 1251 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,279 good. I like it. I almost wish it was even more of a 1252 01:22:01,319 --> 01:22:05,600 metro Vinia than it is, even though he is in a lot of ways. 1253 01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,880 It kind of like stops and tries to do like, hey, like 1254 01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,439 explore the town so Castlevania two stuff every now and then, which is fine. 1255 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,119 But Chante is always fun. I don't know if it's like top five 1256 01:22:15,319 --> 01:22:19,920 material for me, but I like this game. Casual says Pokemon Omega Rupee 1257 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:26,319 and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire. Yeah, they're fine, they're fine, They're they're 1258 01:22:26,319 --> 01:22:29,680 they're well done remakes. They don't light my world on fire or anything. 1259 01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:36,479 Two time Champ avoiding the band Hammer says super Smash Brothers for we you uh 1260 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:41,600 Slain says Divinity Original Sin and I never touched this one. I played Divinity 1261 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,680 Original Sin too, though, of course. Yeah, they're pretty good, 1262 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,640 but it's not Original Sin too. I feel like this is like like a 1263 01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:53,319 good bass game. Is it like Witcher to Witcher two or Witch or two 1264 01:22:53,319 --> 01:22:56,319 to Witcher three. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense. 1265 01:22:56,359 --> 01:23:00,079 It's Switcher two to Witch or three. Okay, you know, I'm I 1266 01:23:00,119 --> 01:23:01,279 always hear good things about this game, but yeah, it seems like it 1267 01:23:01,399 --> 01:23:08,760 really popped off with the sequel. Bench JC says Skylanders Trap Team man, 1268 01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:15,920 I wish I could just play through Skylanders as actually that is legit. Yes, 1269 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,239 I mean how many of those were There were a lot of this. 1270 01:23:18,399 --> 01:23:21,359 There was one per year for like at least five years, probably more. 1271 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,359 And there's a ton of toys, that's what that's I would want all the 1272 01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:30,319 toys and stuff and the Pedestal of Power whatever the fuck they called that. 1273 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,800 I think about Skylanders freaks me out. It's like we had this weird Spirro 1274 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:39,359 spin off that got to a point where here's a game Spiral's not even in 1275 01:23:39,359 --> 01:23:42,560 this picture, and it was like this big part of the industry, and 1276 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,560 then it just went away that everybody was just like, never mind, We're 1277 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,800 over it. And that's just what this industry is like sometimes. I mean, 1278 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:54,479 it is fucking Bobby Kottak finding a vein to mine and mining it until 1279 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:58,359 there is nothing left and except for a toxic lake. But by the way, 1280 01:23:58,399 --> 01:24:00,359 what what is going on with Toys for Bob? Did they really close 1281 01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:04,199 that? So the here's what we know. They were definitely some of the 1282 01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:08,520 people were definitely laid off as part of those nineteen hundred jobs that were lost. 1283 01:24:09,359 --> 01:24:12,319 It doesn't seem like it was the whole team, but they're all there's 1284 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:17,560 their physical offices have been closed. And then some people say this looks like 1285 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:23,279 they are either going to close the studio and have everyone be absorbed into other 1286 01:24:23,359 --> 01:24:28,239 studios or become like a support team, or other people are saying that they've 1287 01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:32,439 just gone fully remote. I'm likeugh, either way, I don't like the 1288 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,560 way that sounds or looks. No, I mean, do you even know 1289 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:40,159 what's going on with that crash competitive game that they made? Is that like 1290 01:24:40,199 --> 01:24:45,479 still getting new seasons? Like I assume that did nothing for them. I 1291 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:46,760 mean, I'm sure it did nothing for them. Yeah, but man, 1292 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,560 I don't know. It's let those people make their good three D platformers. 1293 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,399 They were so good at it. Just let them do that, right, 1294 01:24:55,000 --> 01:25:00,680 Like the government should force these companies at maybe at gunpoint, like go Bobbykottock's 1295 01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:01,960 office with you when he was still in charge, and just like you have 1296 01:25:02,039 --> 01:25:06,760 to make some games, just basically PS two games. Just make five games 1297 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,159 that are like a PS two game every year, and toys or Bob would 1298 01:25:11,159 --> 01:25:15,039 be great at that. Lash four so good, and they did the Spiral 1299 01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:17,720 reag nitel. Just let them make Spiral Floor Crash five. Just let them 1300 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,600 work on those series forever. I mean, Microsoft, you own them. 1301 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:27,279 Now, let them fucking make Banjo. Let's start joking around, or let 1302 01:25:27,279 --> 01:25:30,199 them make Crash your freaking Spiro. I mean, you have a lot of 1303 01:25:30,199 --> 01:25:36,479 options. Do something, Doctor Ryan says the wolf among us. I never 1304 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:40,840 touched this one. I played quite a bit of the Telltale games, and 1305 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,319 I know people love this one, but I just I knew it was based 1306 01:25:44,359 --> 01:25:45,520 on a comic that I had no affinity for, and I think that kept 1307 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,159 me out. Yeah, I was. I was done with Telltale games. 1308 01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:54,279 Yes, what you were? Uh? Willow Davis says Halo the Master Chief 1309 01:25:54,279 --> 01:25:58,560 Collection. I mean it got it got there after a very long time, 1310 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,079 but it was not fourteen. I've had a lot of problems when it launched. 1311 01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:06,920 Beautiful Zoom, says Octo Dad. Dadles Catch, which is like maybe 1312 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,399 my favorite game of that year, but I don't need to put it in 1313 01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:14,439 the best of game of the year, if that makes sense. I adore 1314 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,239 Octo Dad. It means a lot to me. Fusion says PT. I 1315 01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:24,079 think you are the like you have less patience for wanting to put this playable 1316 01:26:24,159 --> 01:26:28,680 trial on a list like this, right, Yeah, I don't know part 1317 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,039 of his society, Like I haven't played PT, and you know how it 1318 01:26:30,079 --> 01:26:33,119 is like, you don't play this thing and all you know is that it's 1319 01:26:33,159 --> 01:26:36,680 like forty five minutes and you hear everyone talk about it like it's Jesus. 1320 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:41,079 Of course I find it abrasive for some reason. That's a meat problem. 1321 01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:45,079 If you really think PT is that incredible over some of these other games, 1322 01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:48,079 we can I think it's worth considering, but we'll see. I think it'll 1323 01:26:48,079 --> 01:26:51,000 probably have a tough time. It is so good. Every other horror game 1324 01:26:51,079 --> 01:26:56,039 is PT now. Everything else is trying to be PT now. Yes to 1325 01:26:56,079 --> 01:27:00,479 this day ten years later, The Tech and Will five says Dark Holes Too. 1326 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,680 Me and Mike are not Dark Souls guys. No, even amongst the 1327 01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,680 dark Sel guys, no Lottom, not all of them. Think too is 1328 01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:11,720 the weakest. Yes, yes one, I'm sorry, farmer guys. Video 1329 01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:15,279 is like the full defensive Dark Souls too. I haven't watched that one yet. 1330 01:27:15,399 --> 01:27:20,640 But Crisis says Sunset Overdrive. I like this game. I don't love 1331 01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:25,560 it. Here's a game that I will, maybe in a hot takey way, 1332 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,600 say overrated. I played do this whole thing. It's fine. I 1333 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,119 played this whole thing too, and I thought I was like that parts of 1334 01:27:31,159 --> 01:27:34,119 her fun and I was occasionally kind of bored. Okay, okay, I 1335 01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:38,439 just want to clarify something. I liked Dark Souls too. I think they 1336 01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,239 said awesome game. I just like compared to the Old Souls. I think 1337 01:27:42,279 --> 01:27:45,640 it's true that is good. Yeah. But yeah, I like Sound Set 1338 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,159 Our Drive. It's a game that I would have never thought about again if 1339 01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:51,680 other people don't bring it up. Hosp says Shadows of Mordor always be Clothing. 1340 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:58,600 Slash Corky says Transistor. I'm like Transition Sound track of Transistory is so 1341 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,399 good. Trans sound it is very good. I didn't really get into it. 1342 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,920 I didn't really try it much because I just remember being people being like, 1343 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:09,760 it's not as good as their last game, and it was they disappointed 1344 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,960 to a lot of people. I got. I got oddly annoyed that everybody 1345 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,920 in the game sounded sleepy, like they they took like that cozy voiceover from 1346 01:28:17,159 --> 01:28:21,119 Bastian too far and applied to every character, and it was like every character 1347 01:28:21,119 --> 01:28:24,359 in that game was on ambing or something, and it kind of drove me 1348 01:28:24,399 --> 01:28:28,119 crazy. Hey, they adjusted over time and eventually did one of the best 1349 01:28:28,119 --> 01:28:30,159 games ever made in Hay, which has a great cast across the board. 1350 01:28:30,159 --> 01:28:32,399 And some of them are sleepy and some of them aren't, which is how 1351 01:28:32,399 --> 01:28:35,800 you're suppot to make the game good mix. Uh, mister Bowler says, 1352 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:41,920 Rusty's real tal baseball. You can't buy this game anymore, And I wonder, 1353 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,159 I wonder how it works if you were to get it off of let's 1354 01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:51,600 say hypothetical thing called the h Shop. Uh. And you because like part 1355 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:57,399 of the game is you talk to Rusty so much that he will lower the 1356 01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,079 price of unlocking the games elsewhere. My god, I just messed up the 1357 01:29:00,079 --> 01:29:03,840 wear eyes in this thing. And so it's like, you, this might 1358 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,000 be a game that it's just kind of lost the time. I don't know 1359 01:29:06,039 --> 01:29:10,800 if it works at all anymore. But boy, I like Rusty's Real Deal 1360 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,680 Baseball a very interesting game. One of those games. It's like, it's 1361 01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,720 so interesting that I love it. I don't really care how it plays necessarily. 1362 01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:23,960 Sure, uh Velocity Prime one says, shovel night DMC depressed me crying 1363 01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:30,159 has uhs I actually did mean to bring this up. I love this game. 1364 01:29:30,199 --> 01:29:32,760 I know that played at Robobot gets most of the love for the two 1365 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:38,960 three DS Kirby games. I remember playing through this and being like Kirby's back 1366 01:29:39,079 --> 01:29:41,960 man, like, I had an amazing time. I thought that the three 1367 01:29:42,039 --> 01:29:44,279 D, even though it's just a two D game, the three stuff was 1368 01:29:44,279 --> 01:29:47,159 actually pretty fun. They did some fun things with it. Yeah. This 1369 01:29:47,159 --> 01:29:53,640 this felt to me like the first sequel to Kirby Superstar in a lot of 1370 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,119 ways. It felt a lot like that. Again. I know that the 1371 01:29:56,159 --> 01:29:59,000 Wii one was kind of there and this is based on that a lot, 1372 01:29:59,039 --> 01:30:02,479 but this one really gave me those vibes. Again. I am I have 1373 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,640 Triple Dux, I still have never played it. Honestly, looking at this 1374 01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:10,880 gift, I should play this. This looks incredible. Oh. JD. 1375 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:16,039 Camp says jazz Punk man, I love jazz punk. Jazz Punk is kind 1376 01:30:16,039 --> 01:30:24,000 of a comedic walking sim is like doing it a disservice. There's like a 1377 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,920 lot going on there is like gameplay, but it's like this world where it's 1378 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,720 all like robots and you go in there and you solve puzzles and you talk 1379 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:35,000 to characters and it's really weird and strange and funny. Jazz Punk is very 1380 01:30:35,039 --> 01:30:38,760 cool. That would be a good game to play on stream sometimes, Mike, 1381 01:30:39,319 --> 01:30:44,199 people would like to watch you play that. I think, uh Leah, 1382 01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:48,119 who's at it again? Says pt E. Zipsis says Alien Isolation. 1383 01:30:49,359 --> 01:30:51,560 Cool game. I don't know if I need to consider it for top five. 1384 01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:57,600 It's a good game. Mitsurugi says Valiant Hearts The Great War. I 1385 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,399 never played mess a game people talked about a lot at that time, and 1386 01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:01,159 I played a little bit of it. It was a game of its time. 1387 01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:03,479 Yeah, it was a game of its time. It's neat. YEP 1388 01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:11,000 showed you. Koto says Titan Fall Michael Riley also says pt Hamlet of Texas 1389 01:31:11,039 --> 01:31:15,720 is Legend of grim Rock two. Oh gosh, there's another game that's Yeah. 1390 01:31:15,119 --> 01:31:20,359 Yeah, we're we're very deep into just lots of indie game territory and 1391 01:31:20,399 --> 01:31:23,880 they were once popular, the o the place. It's funny to like, 1392 01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:25,800 oh, here's the ones we still talk about, and here are the ones 1393 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,119 that not only can highly forgotten. But I haven't thought about Legend of grim 1394 01:31:29,199 --> 01:31:33,760 Rock too, or this next one a lot lately. Yeah, loof Brousers, 1395 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:38,159 which I I love. I think it's got really I like the look. 1396 01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:42,159 It's a good game, but I just love the look. And yeah, 1397 01:31:42,199 --> 01:31:44,039 but no one, You're right, no one talks about that one. 1398 01:31:44,079 --> 01:31:46,920 Like Binding of Isaac Rebirth I think came out this year. That one people 1399 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,680 still talk about, Like that one's still like in love. It's in constant 1400 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,640 rotation for a lot of people. Yeah, the besties, right, Yeah, 1401 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,439 besties like it. But I think it's like, I think it's got 1402 01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,680 a decent number of like Concurrence on Steam all the time. We'll always playing 1403 01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:04,199 it. Lenny Cool Dick Denver says Wolfenstein the New Order, Uh, and 1404 01:32:04,359 --> 01:32:08,640 I'm down with that, oh man, Clink, says jack Box Party Pack. 1405 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,760 This is the first one, the first party pack that they released. 1406 01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,920 Man, I haven't played you Don't Know Jack just straight up in a while. 1407 01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:18,279 It's fine. We should do that sometime. Yeah, we definitely should 1408 01:32:18,319 --> 01:32:21,479 be fun if we should. I want to play some you Don't Know Jack 1409 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:25,239 to be good. Yeah, we should. We could. We'll find out 1410 01:32:25,279 --> 01:32:28,199 a like up have to have a fun you can do. You can do 1411 01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:31,239 like a UPF four. You played this and like the Reef Tracks game some 1412 01:32:31,319 --> 01:32:33,800 of them. Yeah, just all those games that'd be great. I was 1413 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,640 like a big og you don't Know Jack fan, Like I would play those 1414 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:41,520 original CD ROMs all the time with my brothers. Like you played on one 1415 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,199 keyboard, one press P to get in. They want to prosecute a buzz 1416 01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:47,600 in. Yeah, I liked the Man you Don't Know Jack was like a 1417 01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:53,079 surprisingly huge series early on. I was superd of that. Actually it was 1418 01:32:53,159 --> 01:32:59,199 yeah, funny, super super harmon, says Captain Toad Treasure Tracker. This 1419 01:32:59,319 --> 01:33:01,039 is why I, you know, I know what kept them today is I 1420 01:33:01,039 --> 01:33:03,760 played here and there ever played through it and I still want to at some 1421 01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:10,800 point same Adam GC says Banetta two, which is a fantastic game. Doominal 1422 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:15,640 Crossing says Donkey Kong Country, Tropical Freeze. Sarahs Kane says Drive Club. 1423 01:33:15,359 --> 01:33:19,600 I know Drive Club has its fans. Isaac Clark says Rusty's real deal. 1424 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:27,960 Baseball Next says Tropical Freeze screaming Madden has a freedom planet but also found a 1425 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,840 way to photoshop John Madden and and what's his name from the Seahawks on here 1426 01:33:32,359 --> 01:33:35,800 God that everything. If you don't know, I could mean to play free 1427 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:40,439 to play it for people don't know freedom plany on right. It plays like 1428 01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:44,600 the old Sonic games, with a lot more sure thank you, a lot 1429 01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,279 more like furry story stuff in there. There's a sequel that people like a 1430 01:33:47,279 --> 01:33:54,720 lot too. Octo mentioned Threes, which is one. Yeah. I like 1431 01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,960 Threes. I don't love it, mostly because I couldn't unlock my brain to 1432 01:33:59,079 --> 01:34:01,359 be very very good at threes the way some people were and the way I 1433 01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,520 met some other puzzle games. This was just not my puzzle game. So 1434 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:12,199 I mostly just appreciate that Threes is very good. Uh. Laser Wolf says 1435 01:34:12,199 --> 01:34:21,800 Destiny Wong Gifts says it's this persona a characters, and that that that bear 1436 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,279 looks like something that could be in a persona. I don't know. I 1437 01:34:25,399 --> 01:34:29,640 guess this persona. It's okay, don't take your ship. Oh no, 1438 01:34:30,119 --> 01:34:33,439 he can never hurt me. Uh Big Tony the final Fantasy Guy says super 1439 01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:38,920 Smash Brothers for you. Villain Max says titan Fall, and Breadfish says the 1440 01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:42,079 Binding the basic rebirth. I was wondering when someone would actually get to it. 1441 01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:48,800 Uh, Matt rare Monkey, I don't know what this is league lethal 1442 01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:55,159 League. Okay, okayish like kind of a fighting game, but not quite 1443 01:34:55,159 --> 01:34:59,000 a fighting game, right, okay. He combines like a fighting game with 1444 01:34:59,039 --> 01:35:01,359 wind jammers. The guy the ball back and forth. Right. People do 1445 01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,319 like this a lot, don't they. Okay, I've never really played it. 1446 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:12,920 Cox Tover or maybe cox Stuffer says the Shadow of Mordor Adam of sleeps 1447 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:19,920 his band at A two. Buggadillo says Deception four Blood ties are so good. 1448 01:35:20,079 --> 01:35:24,560 I don't know. This is the one where you put traps around. 1449 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:30,600 Pretty sure you have to like kill somebody. It's a dungeon keeper Like no, 1450 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,479 no, it's I feel like it's like dungeon chasing you. It's like 1451 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:38,840 fully treated somebody chasing you, and you like put traps on the place and 1452 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:42,920 then you have to make them walk into the traps. He gets scoofy it 1453 01:35:43,039 --> 01:35:49,039 already. It's they're bad, but they're funny, Adam says Mario Kart eight. 1454 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:55,560 Uh, turbot Shawan says Mario cart eight. A ash guy says Titan 1455 01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:01,600 Fall. Uh. Yeah, manna play some for that and that is going 1456 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:06,000 to do it all right? Hey, that's good shit out then, So 1457 01:36:06,119 --> 01:36:09,680 you know what is? I got the remember the time thing. It was 1458 01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:11,560 kind of a weak year, but there's still some really good games. But 1459 01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,359 some games I look back on now with more reverence than maybe even at that 1460 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,960 time, even though some have fallen to the wayside a bit. Yes, 1461 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:25,960 same, I think there's no obvious consensus number one, like looking looking looking, 1462 01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,399 Yeah, I don't think so. So, I mean no, maybe 1463 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,439 maybe it's Mario Kurdiate for some people. It's not for me. Although I 1464 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,720 keep making the top five, sure, yeah, there's a chance for to 1465 01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,840 make the top five. I don't feel the need to put it at number 1466 01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,800 one, though, But I think that's the thing. I don't know what 1467 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:43,960 I do want to put at number one. When I look at this do 1468 01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,000 you have one that you're like, yeah, you have your favorite. Yeah, 1469 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,560 I want to put Shovell Night at number one. I'd be kind of 1470 01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:50,800 okay with that because I love shelved Night. Shovell Night would be in my 1471 01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:54,920 top three without a doubt if it was just me. So I'm trying to 1472 01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:59,560 think there's anything I really feel strongly about putting over that. No, shovel 1473 01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,960 Nights fan, it's still it just kept getting better, kept getting better. 1474 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:11,000 I could play that right now someone, that's fantastic. I do think I 1475 01:37:11,039 --> 01:37:13,840 want to put Titan Fall up on the list at number two for now. 1476 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,079 It can move around though, if it was like that's not like a permanent 1477 01:37:16,119 --> 01:37:23,479 thing there, that's fine. God, I would like harvestone on there. 1478 01:37:24,359 --> 01:37:30,239 Okay, sounds good to be particularly high. Yeah yeah, well okay, 1479 01:37:30,359 --> 01:37:32,199 So what about the ones that were game of the year for a lot of 1480 01:37:32,199 --> 01:37:36,520 people, Dragon Agent Inquisition and Shadow of More Door. I'm not like either. 1481 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,640 I don't think they need to be there, and games there both good 1482 01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:46,840 games, absolutely, without a doubt. God. The other one that I 1483 01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,640 do feel like I want to get on there is wolf and Stein. Yeah, 1484 01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:58,600 I know I feel about wolf Stein. That's fine, absolutely Stein the 1485 01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,920 New Order and then and I'm down with whatever. If it was up to 1486 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,279 me, I put Nithog, but I'm like, I don't feel the need 1487 01:38:04,279 --> 01:38:12,399 though, push something else off for Anthog. Don't forget about you? You're 1488 01:38:12,399 --> 01:38:16,680 talking really fast? Was that? Sorry? Don't forget about I'm sorry, 1489 01:38:18,039 --> 01:38:25,520 It's all right. Sorry. Uh, look, I'd like being edit to. 1490 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:29,319 Uh. Definitely my favorite that series. I just see a lot of 1491 01:38:29,359 --> 01:38:32,840 games here. I still do want to get on. Uh. People would 1492 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,279 be mad, but I would. I would put Stick of True before Beta 1493 01:38:35,399 --> 01:38:38,960 too. I'm not saying collectively we would. I don't think Jeff would agree 1494 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,920 with that. We STI don't have Mario Kart eight on there. I think 1495 01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,359 Mario Kardate makes some sense, maybe Mario k A five and not even you 1496 01:38:46,399 --> 01:38:49,039 know, I'm not some giant Mario Kart person. So if you don't want 1497 01:38:49,039 --> 01:38:54,000 to do it, I'll go with you. I mean, it's like very 1498 01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:58,119 it was very good, and the reason it's still selling is because it has 1499 01:38:58,159 --> 01:39:01,640 stood the test of time in a way that actually very few games do. 1500 01:39:02,319 --> 01:39:04,399 Because it's not like it's some live service game. It's like, no, 1501 01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:09,079 it's just a great It's just a great game. And they like nailed everything 1502 01:39:09,119 --> 01:39:13,680 about it. The driving feels better than ever, the characters are great. 1503 01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,159 The look, the HD look of Mario Kart eight is so good, kind 1504 01:39:17,159 --> 01:39:20,560 of like timeless. Yeah we can. Let's put Mario Kart eight up there. 1505 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:25,199 I like that a lot, all right, Cheby Knight at one. 1506 01:39:25,279 --> 01:39:27,560 I'm good with Titan Fall two. I'm good with you. Want to move 1507 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,920 Heartstone up or down? I don't know. It kind doesn't matter to me 1508 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:31,680 all that much. I think I guess I would move. I would probably 1509 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,520 put wolf'stein above it, but I don't care. No, I like it 1510 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,479 where it is. I mean sounds good to want my want. Look, 1511 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:42,279 I do feel bad about Nobey and Eta too, but for sure, Yeah, 1512 01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,680 I just don't think there's a room. I still think there's room. 1513 01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,000 Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely. It's in the conversation. It's right 1514 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,279 there. It feels like it's just just getting cut off. But uh yeah, 1515 01:39:50,319 --> 01:39:51,920 all right, Mikey, you want to go ahead and read the list 1516 01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:56,840 for everybody, then Best Games of twenty twenty four from bottom to top. 1517 01:39:57,119 --> 01:40:00,159 Number five Mario Kart eight, number four Wolf, It's Stein the New or 1518 01:40:00,279 --> 01:40:04,079 number three Hearthstone Heroes of Warcraft. It was caught at that time. Two 1519 01:40:04,279 --> 01:40:09,359 is Titan Fall and number one is Shovel Night, and I'm tweeting it now 1520 01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:13,680 saying we got it right again. I say four twenty fourteen. Damn it. 1521 01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,720 Keep mixing up these years by a decade. Years don't matter. Everyone 1522 01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,000 gets it. It's a good less Those are all good games. Yep, 1523 01:40:19,399 --> 01:40:21,720 absolutely, all right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back. 1524 01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:26,319 We'll do super chats, talk about what we've been playing right after this, 1525 01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,399 and we're back. Gonna leave the list up there for a little bit for 1526 01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,840 everybody for they're coming in to yell at us. I just put it on 1527 01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:38,199 Twitter. Yep, Mike, do we have any more super chats? Yeah, 1528 01:40:38,239 --> 01:40:42,199 Green Thumb, says Gerr. I am so mad, mad ad at 1529 01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,920 Phil. I don't know. I can't see through this blind rage. I'm 1530 01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,840 joking. Gee, you interface joined the Lincoln here. Thank you so much, 1531 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,399 Viz, SUPI says, been following you guys since games. Beat to 1532 01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:56,840 side slash scrubs. Next they've got to catch you guys live. So this 1533 01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,960 is awesome. Love you guys and the content. Thank you, Viz. 1534 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:01,920 I really appreciate that. Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it. 1535 01:41:02,239 --> 01:41:04,720 How long have we been game meste size? Now? How long have 1536 01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:10,359 you been a giant bone? Yeah, it's going to be two years. 1537 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,239 Two years in June. Okay, so a year and a half fish year 1538 01:41:13,279 --> 01:41:16,640 and a half yep, feels longer. Yeah. Connell Wood says, seen 1539 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:21,039 any Bangers and Next Fest pepper Grinder rules. I remember pepper Grinder from something 1540 01:41:21,079 --> 01:41:24,279 else, and that looks good. But I haven't really been able to look 1541 01:41:24,279 --> 01:41:27,960 at Nextvest at all. Really just been busy. I downloaded some games from 1542 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,840 Nextfest and haven't played a single one of them. God, I would like 1543 01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,479 to find time for that. I wish we could have made it happen today, 1544 01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:36,239 but it just it just wasn't an option. Jan was very busy and 1545 01:41:36,279 --> 01:41:41,520 I wasn't kind of kind of going there by myself and just like blindly try 1546 01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:45,439 to find something interesting. Sure, JP says more Frank Spencer than Phil threw 1547 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:51,960 us under the bus. Who's Frank Spencers just a made up character? I 1548 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:58,560 don't know. No, that sounds familiar. It sounds like from a show, 1549 01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,119 but I don't know, it's not like his own Spencer's the Dido Store. 1550 01:42:01,239 --> 01:42:04,159 Yeah, yes, Spencer's gifts. Yeah, I have Frank Spencer. 1551 01:42:04,279 --> 01:42:09,359 He's a you know, turn dirty Dirty Frank comes from I looked up up 1552 01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:14,479 and it's a guy from a show from Rittie Show Call Some Mothers Do Am 1553 01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:21,640 And that might just be a coincidence that Spencer JP is talking. Oh JP 1554 01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:28,880 did send us Okay. I had an awkward thing with Spencer's because a J 1555 01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:31,199 wanted to go to the mall to buy Lorcnic cards. He's like, yeah, 1556 01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:33,960 my buddy told me Spencer's has them, and I thought that was weird. 1557 01:42:34,239 --> 01:42:36,319 So we go in there and he's like, asked like, hey, 1558 01:42:36,359 --> 01:42:40,560 do you have Larcnic cards here? And got a weird look like I don't 1559 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,319 know what that is. You know, we got dildo's and I was like, 1560 01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,760 are you sure it was on hot topic? He's like, you know 1561 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,760 that sounds right, Jack, Yes, hot topping at them? Oh man, 1562 01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:54,960 that definitely sounds much much more correct. It was fun though. A 1563 01:42:55,199 --> 01:42:59,239 says I'm sorry we all let you down today. Jeff, uh yeah, 1564 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:03,479 just do better next time. There's nixt with Nick with his hashtag lock fill 1565 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:09,880 up One. Banderes Sen said when Xbox bought Bethesda, they held an event 1566 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:14,359 called a round table with interviews and game pass stuff. Any chances to event 1567 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,880 is that both abk No, that's not this event is going to be. 1568 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,479 They can't, right, they can't because when they had that conversation, it 1569 01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:25,880 sounded very different and some of the things they might be saying might be going 1570 01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,439 back on that. So why would you trust a new roundtable. It's what 1571 01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,880 I think a lot of fans would probably be thinking. This is probably gonna 1572 01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:38,960 be a press release. Guys. Aramis barramus Is Hotsunemuku Project Diva F second 1573 01:43:39,079 --> 01:43:42,039 was fun in my introt to the series. I had fun saying that name 1574 01:43:43,039 --> 01:43:45,880 this is a great game. You should watch the Shamba Quid look of this 1575 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:53,760 game is like legendary. It's actually pronounced hot Sonny Meku, I'm want to 1576 01:43:53,840 --> 01:44:00,399 murder you. I believe you well, is it like you was in the 1577 01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:05,439 chats defending his mistake with you need to say they're basically like, yeah, 1578 01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:08,720 no, that's Sean that says that. I agree with Sean saying that they 1579 01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,880 are basically the same thing. In my mind, one has more Rick and 1580 01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,600 Morty stuff. If you can believe it. It's not hot time and they 1581 01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,119 didn't think it didn't think that was possible. Actually, when you say that 1582 01:44:18,159 --> 01:44:21,159 it's Spencer's now, that does sound right. That is the kind of person 1583 01:44:21,199 --> 01:44:26,840 that would walk into a Spencer's mike. I have been playing mostly like a 1584 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,840 Dragon still. I did start up some suicide squad, but like a Dragon 1585 01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:39,680 continues to just really charm me at every turn. The combat has gotten better. 1586 01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,640 It like starts off good and then it just keeps getting better where it's 1587 01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,960 like the job system, magic Man. The job system is a huge part 1588 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,039 of that. Also, there's just like neat little features like, hey, 1589 01:44:49,039 --> 01:44:54,159 you've been spending all this time building up your relationships with all these other characters. 1590 01:44:54,199 --> 01:44:56,640 Well, guess what, they're at a high LEFTL high enough level now 1591 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,159 that when you do an attack, they're just going to do a follow up 1592 01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:01,000 tech attack because they love you that much. It's like, oh, that's 1593 01:45:01,039 --> 01:45:05,159 cool. So now these more difficult battles are going even faster again, and 1594 01:45:05,199 --> 01:45:10,239 it's like doing that really good thing of like, Okay, you're getting so 1595 01:45:10,319 --> 01:45:12,840 much stronger than everybody. You're taking them out real quick. So now you're 1596 01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,399 going to face stronger enemies, and now we're going to give you new things 1597 01:45:15,399 --> 01:45:17,800 that's going to make you feel even more capable, and they just have such 1598 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:21,479 a grasp on what they're making here that I'm really into it. And then 1599 01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:27,000 the story continues to be great, and great in the way that it's like 1600 01:45:27,039 --> 01:45:30,800 it's very dumb, but in a way that it owns it. Every enemy 1601 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:34,479 I've run into so far eventually is just like, what if I had a 1602 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,840 kind of a sad story and explained it and that made you want to be 1603 01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,359 my friend? I'm like, yeah, that would be fantastic. Can we 1604 01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,920 keep doing that? And the game is like, yes, we can keep 1605 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,760 doing that over and over and I love it. So yeah, I'm just 1606 01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,439 a huge fan of this game. I do get a little scared that, 1607 01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:55,479 hey, I'm about thirty five to forty hours in and I think there's probably 1608 01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:58,479 about another forty hours to go for me, and I'm afraid I'm not going 1609 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:00,800 to beat it, and that would be very sad for me. But this 1610 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,439 one I want to. I want to, but like I know, and 1611 01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,159 I'm gonna do my best. I'm doing it is the game that is on 1612 01:46:06,279 --> 01:46:09,720 my Steam deck whenever I turn it on, and one of the one of 1613 01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,880 the things that's help me beat games recently is just don't turn it. Just 1614 01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:14,840 don't turn the game off, and that every every time I pick up my 1615 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:18,119 Steam deck, it's right there, that's the plan. But there's a lot 1616 01:46:18,119 --> 01:46:20,279 of fucking games right now. There's a lot of games I want to be 1617 01:46:20,319 --> 01:46:25,319 playing, so it's difficult. I mean, I've been playing Persona three reload 1618 01:46:25,359 --> 01:46:28,039 a bunch still and so really licking that. You know, the Persona games 1619 01:46:28,039 --> 01:46:31,800 do a similar thing where if you get a good enough bond with a party 1620 01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:35,000 member, they will like just sometimes come with a fallow up attack and I 1621 01:46:35,039 --> 01:46:40,359 always love there too. Yeah, absolutely, And then the little bit of 1622 01:46:40,399 --> 01:46:44,479 Suicide Squad is just trying to get a feel for it, getting past the 1623 01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,399 very early parts and it's uh, I can I can tell that there is 1624 01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:51,680 some rock Steady. Hey. We spend a lot of time making sure that 1625 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:56,760 when you are playing this game you're having fun. Magic and there extensive Yes, 1626 01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:00,159 yeah, absolutely, And the character models do look very good. The 1627 01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:04,279 tech is very impressive. I think Harley Quinn's like face is very striking the 1628 01:47:04,279 --> 01:47:10,359 way people say it is. But as soon as you start getting into one 1629 01:47:10,399 --> 01:47:15,359 of those missions where it's just like you're gonna shoot these faceless hordes for a 1630 01:47:15,359 --> 01:47:17,399 long time while you wait for a time or to count down or whatever. 1631 01:47:18,159 --> 01:47:23,479 You know, what you're playing. And it's for me very disheartening, very 1632 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,520 discouraging, because I'm like, I just don't have the heart for this anymore. 1633 01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,880 Please just check me out. I want to play something that is interested 1634 01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,800 in doing something new, and this just isn't. Yeah, I get that. 1635 01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,039 I still I am going to try this myself pretty soon here. I've 1636 01:47:35,079 --> 01:47:41,439 been hoping I could do it already, but it's been busy. So did 1637 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:45,920 you did check out that Rebirth demo and play the opening section of the game 1638 01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:50,840 there? I have not that is, I have my PS five is kind 1639 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:54,279 of ready to go with that, and I've just kind of been looking for 1640 01:47:54,279 --> 01:47:56,399 the right moment because I think once I start that, I'm gonna put some 1641 01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,319 real time into it. So yeah, I don't know, not yet. 1642 01:48:00,079 --> 01:48:01,399 Yeah, but hey, look you play that demo like man, Yeah, 1643 01:48:02,399 --> 01:48:06,399 everything that they do with these Final Fantasy Set remakes sure is really nice. 1644 01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:10,079 That combat system is still a ton of fun. It is fun getting to 1645 01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:13,600 Hoyle around with stephro for a bit. It's always good to get that development 1646 01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,319 with him, especially when you know in remake he does just kind of show 1647 01:48:16,399 --> 01:48:19,840 up as this almost sort of specter, and it is solely depending on your 1648 01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:24,800 familiarity with that character from previous Final Fantasy games. So it's good to really 1649 01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,600 see the development and that kind of classic heel turn that happens in that game. 1650 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,399 And it feels, you know, it seems more poignant now and more 1651 01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:34,199 impactful because they do spend more time with it. They spend more time with 1652 01:48:34,239 --> 01:48:39,920 the kind of cloud seffer Off mentors student relationship, and you kind of like 1653 01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,079 you almost begin to call him a puppy, cause yeah, there's sexual attention 1654 01:48:43,199 --> 01:48:50,640 for sure. Absolutely, Yeah, cool, great stuff. I'm looking I'm 1655 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:54,079 looking forward to it though, looking forward to spending time with that game. 1656 01:48:55,560 --> 01:49:00,359 Really high hopes that I expect that game to fully meet. Yes, i'd 1657 01:49:00,359 --> 01:49:03,800 be it'd be shocking, I think because I door remake just you know, 1658 01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,159 you play that dumb, I think you'll get the impression like, yeah, 1659 01:49:06,159 --> 01:49:11,680 they're just they're moving right along into this one, right, They're still firing 1660 01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:16,520 on all cylinders. I got that Penny's big breakaway code. I haven't you 1661 01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,279 even had had time for that? Like, and that's when I'm like, 1662 01:49:19,279 --> 01:49:21,760 oh, it's a preview. I'd like to just touch on there. Good. 1663 01:49:23,079 --> 01:49:27,760 Yeah, there's just so much stuff I want to be playing once you 1664 01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,560 get through. Like do you have a game that you're like looking forward to, 1665 01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:31,600 like going back to, or do you think there's not even going to 1666 01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:36,479 be time for that, Cause like kevbot dot orgon chat is talking about they 1667 01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:40,119 just beat Jedi Survivor, and it's like, yeah, that's the game I 1668 01:49:40,199 --> 01:49:42,319 was going to be playing right now when I had all this time because there 1669 01:49:42,359 --> 01:49:45,159 weren't going to be games in twenty twenty four and then fuck me, I 1670 01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:48,159 guess I thought December January was going to be able to beat my Fantasy sixteen 1671 01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:53,000 in Jedi Survivor and it's like, nope, I got to beat sixteen at 1672 01:49:53,039 --> 01:49:57,840 some point, but like that's not that's not a priority over rebirth for me, 1673 01:49:58,079 --> 01:50:01,239 Like I don't sixteen's as good as remake is, so just absolutely not. 1674 01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:05,239 Look, I definitely going to play like a Dragon some point. I'm 1675 01:50:05,279 --> 01:50:08,840 not going to until I be PERSONA three, and that might take me a 1676 01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:12,760 while. Like you know, I'm not I've been playing a bit every night, 1677 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,319 but I'm still not super far into it. I just did the monoail 1678 01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,680 sequence for people who know, so I still have a long way to go 1679 01:50:18,199 --> 01:50:21,119 in that one. So yeah, that's that's kind of where I am. 1680 01:50:21,359 --> 01:50:25,880 I know that PERSONA and then Final Fantasy is going to take up a lot 1681 01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,800 of my time in the next month or so. It's gonna be a while. 1682 01:50:29,039 --> 01:50:32,359 And then kind of wood says or I'm sorry who said it, someone 1683 01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,119 say that hopefully March is light, and it's like, I'm going to be 1684 01:50:35,159 --> 01:50:36,960 going to packs, so I'm going to be busy that way. I have 1685 01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:42,119 a lot of travel in March because uh yeah, i might be going to 1686 01:50:42,119 --> 01:50:47,319 pass dialing that down. I'm actually have a personal trip maybe GDC. Also, 1687 01:50:47,359 --> 01:50:49,680 I'm not sure yet, So yeah, there might be a lot of 1688 01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:56,279 travel in March. We'll see, we will see. My Almas two is 1689 01:50:56,279 --> 01:50:59,880 in March, ash okay, And I definitely want to play that, like 1690 01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:01,680 that is when I do not want to miss I'm playing that. Yep, 1691 01:51:02,039 --> 01:51:05,439 playing that, Okay, all right, Yeah, listen, hey, it's 1692 01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:08,840 a good time to be to be into video games. If you like playing 1693 01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,600 video games, it's a good time. You're right to talk about video games 1694 01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:15,000 on on Twitter. Maybe not so great, but good. You don't deserve 1695 01:51:15,039 --> 01:51:18,159 it. You don't deserve good things. You like, and I should know 1696 01:51:18,199 --> 01:51:21,199 because I'm one of them. Mike, I'm gonna hit the button to get 1697 01:51:21,239 --> 01:51:23,920 us out of you here. Is that sound good? Let's get out of 1698 01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:30,319 here, Let's go done. Yeah, the Blake Club continues to be a 1699 01:51:30,359 --> 01:51:34,239 treasure that you got through two levels in Blake Club. People should check that 1700 01:51:34,319 --> 01:51:36,920 out. Huh. Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. 1701 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,239 I was, I was really feeling it. I wonder if I'm gonna keep 1702 01:51:40,239 --> 01:51:44,560 this pace up or hit another really tough wlall here like I did in that 1703 01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:49,840 Wind Temple area or whatever. That was God, god fucking fujin fujin real 1704 01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:55,520 bastard. It really is just a complete Yeah, the worst, absolutely worst. 1705 01:51:55,560 --> 01:52:00,760 That water asshole is nothing. I think they mix up the levels. 1706 01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,079 I think that stupid Earth Temple was supposed to be level two or something and 1707 01:52:03,119 --> 01:52:08,760 then somebody just like swapped itferent fundies. I don't know. Yep, you're 1708 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,960 right. I mean the way that the progress went, the progression goes in 1709 01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,199 that game, it would have made so much more sense. I think they 1710 01:52:14,239 --> 01:52:16,880 were like, the wind Timpo's visually cooler, so we want to have that 1711 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:20,000 second. I think that's all they thought about. Yeah, there's a lot 1712 01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:21,920 of stuff in that game. They don't. They just didn't think about it 1713 01:52:23,039 --> 01:52:26,520 very much. We thought about it rocked. They thought about it in a 1714 01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:29,359 bad way. Uh, there is a lot of great stuff happened over on 1715 01:52:29,399 --> 01:52:30,520 Giant Bomb, though. You guys should all go check that stuff out. 1716 01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,159 Mike, what do you have happening? Well, make sure you do watch 1717 01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:38,960 catch me if you dan over a Giant Bomb absolutely so much time. Yeah, 1718 01:52:39,359 --> 01:52:41,800 you know, if you didn't check out that ninety six of the episode 1719 01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:45,279 a Castle Illusion, please do that. But uh, you know, we 1720 01:52:45,319 --> 01:52:48,640 should be playing Hell Divers to tomorrow if the service collo operate on and if 1721 01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:51,640 it doesn't, will play c F Thieves or I'm sorry, Skull and Bones 1722 01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:56,159 excuse me, something like that. Yep, yeah, freak man, there's 1723 01:52:56,159 --> 01:52:58,880 something I still didn't get to play through all that monkey out and stuff and 1724 01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,319 see a Thieves. Oh geez right, yeah, god, oh my god. 1725 01:53:01,399 --> 01:53:04,880 It's just and all these old games that I buy right and want to 1726 01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:09,920 play. You know. That's the thing, like, if that's with me, 1727 01:53:10,079 --> 01:53:12,640 Hey, if they stop making vegans tomorrow, i'd be sad. I 1728 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:15,960 would still have enough video games to play until the day I die. Easily. 1729 01:53:15,279 --> 01:53:18,000 I'll be fine. And I'm like, I see like jam playing that 1730 01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:21,199 bilotro game with the poker like rogue led game, and I'm like, that 1731 01:53:21,279 --> 01:53:26,000 looks so good. But I'm like, I am legit scared of it because 1732 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,319 I bet I would lose a ton of time to that and I just can't 1733 01:53:28,319 --> 01:53:30,800 afford it right now. It's crazy out there, everybody, Thanks for listening, 1734 01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,520 Thanks for watching. Until next time, have got take care of yourself. 1735 01:53:33,760 --> 01:54:09,359 Goodbye. Is it just a stupid asshole? I didn't know slavery was 1736 01:54:09,359 --> 01:54:15,640 illegal. You want to shoot my dicken? Asshole? What we did it? 1737 01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:21,119 At the same time, we're too good. There's a ship ton of 1738 01:54:21,119 --> 01:54:25,079 people here. Hello everybody. Sorry you're here with us on a night where 1739 01:54:25,119 --> 01:54:29,000 I'm just just shot, just so tired. But thank you for sticking with 1740 01:54:29,119 --> 01:54:32,520 us. Everybody. Two years to night and a to a game. Mm 1741 01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:36,880 hmm, I'm going back them real quick. Probably the music was really soft 1742 01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:42,479 in the beginning. Yeah, but that'll just be for the video version. 1743 01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,680 Sorry, everybody. Christian will fix that if you listen to the audio version. 1744 01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:56,079 Yeah, you you like my eaves gimble pronunciation, listen. I spent 1745 01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:58,239 a little bit of time in France. My wife lived in France for two 1746 01:54:58,319 --> 01:55:04,000 years before we were married, and I learned the key to pronouncing things with 1747 01:55:04,079 --> 01:55:10,319 a French accent is just mostly let your mouth melt halfway through the word. 1748 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:17,359 Sound more French the more you do that. Actually, if you just start 1749 01:55:17,359 --> 01:55:21,279 off with your mouth melting, you'll sound French. What is this in my 1750 01:55:21,399 --> 01:55:26,199 hand? Yeah? Yeah, the last letter means nothing. It's like you 1751 01:55:26,239 --> 01:55:30,680 should have disdain for the last letter in any French word. Absolutely, just 1752 01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:34,159 look at it with disgust. Yeah, then I may find out the French. 1753 01:55:34,199 --> 01:55:41,800 We go I did after the conversation with Dan about Napoleon. I did 1754 01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:45,800 go watch a handful of YouTube videos about Napoleon. Yeah, and I was 1755 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,760 like, I'm like, I was French er. They fucking go hard. 1756 01:55:48,359 --> 01:55:53,720 All they do, all they do is kill kings and then and then get 1757 01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:58,319 kind of frustrated with them whoever they install. And then they they they go 1758 01:55:58,359 --> 01:56:00,880 on the picket line. They pick it. They picked their jobs. That's 1759 01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:04,079 all that. That's the two things they do in that country. Burned down 1760 01:56:04,119 --> 01:56:10,840 ship when somebody like, I just love that ship. They killed the king 1761 01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:15,199 for shoot, wait, they killed kings. I love that. I went 1762 01:56:15,279 --> 01:56:19,560 to you to ask him about resputing I wonder if he knows about resputing, 1763 01:56:20,479 --> 01:56:25,239 does he know the one key thing about recuing I know about You know, 1764 01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:30,319 some people think he was like a like a made up color because like he's 1765 01:56:30,319 --> 01:56:35,600 got like such an outsized personality because of the myths around him, right where 1766 01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:39,760 like he was shot and burned and all these other and and hanged, and 1767 01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:46,119 you know, Dick is a foot long. Like come on now, you 1768 01:56:46,199 --> 01:56:50,960 know we're talking about Jodah Falcon. Come on, man, Look you're staring 1769 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:56,159 away all the extra people who got here, all the you're staring away, 1770 01:56:56,159 --> 01:57:00,680 all the anxious Xbox fans about video games. Everyone. We're talking about rast 1771 01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:06,319 Feuting's Dick, get back in here. All right, let's go. I'm 1772 01:57:06,319 --> 01:57:13,800 gonna bring it back break. I forgot what show we were doing too, 1773 01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,159 I don't know you know what it was. It felt like questions from ten 1774 01:57:16,239 --> 01:57:23,760 dogs because there's so many of us. Yeah, yeah, I'll get some 1775 01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:29,640 light buttons, God deam and get me the like. Yeah hit those hit 1776 01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:32,399 those likes. Their money is great to me, but I love those likes. 1777 01:57:32,399 --> 01:57:35,479 This is what happened when you don't have foodball in your country, like 1778 01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:42,119 real football, when you don't have clubs do you fill it console? Yeah, 1779 01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:45,640 you're right. I mean there are countries that do have real football. 1780 01:57:46,119 --> 01:57:49,840 No, my example is going to be Australia. And because there's Australia, 1781 01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:54,439 like, are they crazy about soccer the way other countries are, I don't 1782 01:57:54,439 --> 01:57:59,439 know, because they have like a really they are really really like deep in 1783 01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:04,079 surprise seeing car culture there where it's like Ford versus Chevy and it's like look 1784 01:58:04,319 --> 01:58:09,319 very toxic, and I always find that very fascinating that, Yeah, the 1785 01:58:09,359 --> 01:58:14,560 thing happens here in Argentina. Yeah, it's like it's the four's a Chevy 1786 01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,560 Super there's auber toxic. But also here in Argentina that's like people is super 1787 01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:23,840 bumboys for life, for the consoles so forever, of course, yeah, 1788 01:58:24,119 --> 01:58:27,319 of course. I mean listen, it's it's it's human nature. I mean 1789 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,479 I get it, like you are protecting yourself from fomo. Uh. You 1790 01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,800 only have so much time and money, and so you pick something and you 1791 01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:39,520 decide the other thing is not just worth ignoring. But you need to decide 1792 01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:42,520 it's bad because you do not want to feel bad for missing out on it. 1793 01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:45,600 I've done it all my life. I remember, like when I started 1794 01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:49,159 getting to MCU as a fucking adult and these DC movies started coming out. 1795 01:58:49,239 --> 01:58:53,880 I was like very happy to be like that's tough trash. Even though I 1796 01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:58,239 love the Batman trilogies and and everything that happened before that, it was just 1797 01:58:58,279 --> 01:59:00,239 like, no, I don't have time for it. I'm like, actually, 1798 01:59:00,319 --> 01:59:02,119 stupid MCU movies. It was the dumbest thing. It happens. It's 1799 01:59:02,199 --> 01:59:05,600 human nature, I get it. I remember going to the siber here so 1800 01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:11,000 the like this PC bongs type style and making fun of the people that played 1801 01:59:11,039 --> 01:59:14,000 Doda, the original Doda when I was playing counter Strike. You know, 1802 01:59:14,039 --> 01:59:20,760 it's like, look at those nerves moving like units around like five thousand hours 1803 01:59:21,199 --> 01:59:27,199 legions exactly exactly, and it gets us all in the end. Yeah, 1804 01:59:27,239 --> 01:59:29,680 they're true. Yes, MCU is dead. Cool man, Yeah, I 1805 01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:34,560 know. Thanks thanks for the update. Yeah. I was just talking about 1806 01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:38,880 like how i've like done the fanboy thing of of trying to defend myself from 1807 01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:42,520 spending more time in like DC movies. So it was very like once I 1808 01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:45,279 was invested in MCU, I was like very happy to dump all over DC 1809 01:59:45,399 --> 01:59:47,880 because I was happy I didn't have another thing to have to spend all my 1810 01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:54,439 time yeah. Yeah. So here we are just going into a game of 1811 01:59:54,479 --> 01:59:57,560 the year. Yeah, best game of twenty fourteen. Do we have anything 1812 01:59:57,560 --> 01:59:59,880 else? Sean, Nope, that's it. That's it, all right, 1813 02:00:00,079 --> 02:00:06,359 okay, good, let's do it. This is upbreak. You wanna jump 1814 02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:12,000 back into it, you wanna shot back into it? Let go? I 1815 02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,880 found all right for a chance, here we go.