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this. So the Bradley Beale and the Wizards to get the phrasing here because
it was so funny. Both Wogan Sham's basically had the same phrasing wos.
The beginning of his article is this, as rival teams begin reaching out to
the Washington Wizards to explore the possibility of trading for three time All Star God
Guard Bradley Beale, team president Michael Winger and Beale's agent Mark Bartlestein of Priority
Sports are staying in close contact to discuss scenarios presented to the franchise, sources
told ESPN. On Wednesday, Sham's effectively tweeted that Bill and the Wizards will
work together to find him a destination if they decide to rebuild. The framing
is just funny. Bradley Beale has that no trade clause, which it's really
kind of hysterical that they gave it to him, Like the fact that they
gave out the NBA's only no trade clause after guaranteeing him two hundred and fifty
one million dollars, as if that just wasn't enough, and it included a
player option on top. I don't know that I've ever seen a team lose
a negotiation more. That's just good for Bradley Beale, but the Wizards have
really painted themselves into a corner there. Of course, they don't have to
work together because bald and veto any trade he has. I will my first
thoughts on this because we're gonna get to Bradley Beal trade destinations, but very
quickly Michael Winger, and that intro pressor was pretty candid about saying the Wizards
are not contenders is currently constructed. All the reporting behind that based off things
he said. It really made it seem as if he does have full autonomy
to run monumental basketball, and that would mean if he wanted to rebuild,
he could. And there were some hints of reporting that if they that if
they wanted to rebuild, they could. This seems this reporting coming out now,
I take it as okay, Ted Beyonce, this is actually going to
allow them to do so, which is something I talked about this with Believe
in Wizards is that's a great podcast. Check it out. Matt Maderno,
we talked about this and we were just skeptical, at least I was collectively
skeptical that he would have that agency. Yes she could guarantee it. Yes
he left the Clippers, and so it infers that he could have the freedom
to blow this thing up. But what do you actually have it. It's
more of a believe it when I see it, and I still I'm there
just because Ted the Ons, this is involved. This is the Wizards we're
talking about. Let's see them move. Bradley Beal like at all, like
actually, and then the trickle down effect of that. Kyle Kuzma has that
player option, he's going to opt out. What do you do with him?
Do you let him leave? Can you work? Assign and trade?
Christops Porzingis is a player option for thirty six plus million. You get rid
of him because he opted in? Do you trade him? Do you just
keep him? Try and move him later? What happens with Denny Avia he's
extension knowledgeable. There's just a whole litany of trickle down effects if you actually
move Beal And so I'm still the mind I'll believe it when I see it.
At the same time, this reporting coming out so soon after a winger
and Darylhawkers took control of the organization, it believes people that, Okay,
they actually do have this freedom. And I would expect be able to be
traded by the end of the off season. Maybe not by the draft on
Thursday, but certainly by the end of the off season. And so you
get start to get into scenarios and the reporting on this. The Miami Heat
are interested, the Sixers are apparently not interested. Other teams have been thrown
out there with speculation Brian Winhorse did say I don't know on what medium.
By the way, I don't know if he was a Whop collective. I
certainly didn't hear it there, but someone aggregated it, and he apparently said
people will be surprised at how little Bradley Beale goes for because his contract is
so undesirable. I get it. He is about the turn thirty. He's
played in just ninety games over the past two seasons, though I think you
could argue had the Wizards had something to play for, he arguably appears in
more games than that. But if you're concerned about injuries, fine, he's
about turn and thirty. He's owed about two hundred and seven point seven million
dollars over the next four years, the final season of which is a fifty
seven point one million dollar player option in two and twenty six two twenty seven,
which is going to be his age thirty three campaign. Old not ancient,
but fifty seven millions a lot, and we're going to get into the
teams. We're getting there, But I want to outlay this a bunch.
I still think the Wizards end up getting if I just set the old over
under on two first round picks or the equivalent of prospects, or if we
want to go one point vive, I'm going to take the over there.
I don't think this is just a salary dump, but so a six Yers
fans joking, Okay to Bias Harrison, A pick you wouldn't have to give
up Tyrese Maxe for Bradley Beale. Would I give up Tyrese Maxie for Bradley
bald No, but teams that are that asset Baron. I don't really think
it's not going to be an expiring contract plus a low level pick. It's
going to be more even with the no trade clause. Bradley Beale, I'm
sure smart enough to know, well, I don't want to bankrupt the team
I'm going to They're already going to be ultra inflexible because of my salary.
So yes, I do think that drives down the cost just being just the
money he's owed. That's I don't know that that's a it's not a desirable
contract. But Bradley is also really good. It's probably one of the thirty
twenty five best players in the NBA at minimum. He can make all MBA
on any given season, and I think his three point accuracy is down.
We have to look at the role that he's shouldered. His shot quality is
not necessarily what it was earlier in his career. He's turned into a maestro
inside the arc. He's one of the very bad combo guard playmakers in the
league. This is someone who can drive an offense, as I would call
it, would the one be playmaker, very close to a primary playmaker,
and that's huge. And the way that he can get defense is scrambling in
the half court also huge. And I firmly believe you put him on a
team, and even if the Wizards just turned around and traded for a different
type of point guard, I think that you see his outside shooting reach another
level. I also think that you probably see his defense, which has not
been great, it probably improves just relative to his maybe shouldering a little less
of a of a workload. So there are situations where I think you look
at the contract and go, well, we're not bringing him in to be
our alpha and he's not going to be our highest paid player. That creates
other issues though, and for the Wizards specifically, yeah, they should have
moved him already if this was the end game. But it's a different regime.
You can't throw that on Michael Winger. But they should have moved him
already, Like this is just terrible asset management by the Wizards in general.
Looking at ted leonsis why not make the decision to get rid of shepherds and
the other thing here we talk about trickle down effects. You're probably not going
to get as much, if anything, for Kuzma. Should you have to
agree to assign and trade or you're gonna get into the bird rights trap with
him anyway and end up with him on the roster and maybe he comes harder
to trade on its next deal. I don't know. Could be the same
thing with Christopher porzingis they've mismanaged this situation and so the time to trade Bradley
Beal has already passed. It was when he didn't have a no trade clause.
Still, I think, if I think you're gonna get, I'm gonna
set the over rounder at one point five first round picks or equivalent prospects,
and I'll take the over And I think I think if I moved it to
two point five, I'm not saying high level picks, unprotected picks from the
magic or somebody or even the thunder, But if I had to, I
would probably nudget towards the over of two point five there as well, Like
maybe it's someone who's has a year only a year left on his rocky scale
and he's going to be like like an Obie toppin type situation. I don't
think the next get involved, but just as a just as a means for
that. So the issue you run into here, and why do you think
his price could be driven down? The new collective arguing agreement is so punitive
that if you're going to have someone on your team making thirty five percent of
a cap, let's just say, like the days of having three of those
players, insofar as any teams really had three of them at once, which
we haven't seen three thirty five percent max players on the same roster, I
would argue, ever, like Kyrie Durant and James Harden, I think would
have been the closest we we would have come. But it's it's just it's
beyond prohibitive. Just the NBA has made it virtually impossible with all the penalties,
the limitations on fleshing out the rest of your team, and for some
of these other teams that we're going to mention. I think we need to
bear in mind if you're gonna be on that second apron, which is like
one seven nine point five million, I haven't been able to figure out whether
it kicks in this summer, like if it kicks in for the next league
year, if it's the one after, Like some of this stuff is being
phased in, but you can't if you're the Clippers, for example, you
can't trade your twenty twenty eight and twenty thirty picks. You can only trade
up to twenty twenty nine because when you're over the second apron, they kind
of wall off a pick that is seven years out of the draft. And
there's just other restrictions there, and I'm still even just learning about them.
Like if you're seven million dollars, this is one that just got by me.
If you're seven million dollars past the first luxury tax apron, you lose
like a chunk of your minimlie essentially, just absolutely like this stuff is just
absolutely why I can't believe the Players Union agree to itself. So, but
those are limitation teams are up against, and so many of those are probably
the teams that or some of those at least that probably Bill wants to go
to, and so that will inherently drive down his market, which is why
I'm reticent to go all the way up to two point five picks, prospects,
whatever. But this is not I don't think it's going to be a
deal. Yeah, we'll look back and say, yeah, the Wizards maybe
could have gotten more two three years ago. Definitely, we will absolutely do
that. But I don't know if we look back at this and say,
wow, Michael Winger and the Wizards took a bath here. I'm just not
entirely convinced. Maybe I'm underestimating even the new CBA climate that I'm not afraid
of, but already just feels like a reckoning is coming there. So let's
get the teams and we can go through the entire NBA here. There are
some teams that will link to them, and we'll start alphabetically because they're gonna
crop up in Atlanta. No, there's just you have de Jante Murray and
Trey Young. Boston's interesting. They're a team that will be linked to him
at some point, I think because him and Jason Tatum are tight and there's
been sort of rumblings about them wanting to play together in the ether, if
not just flat out in the open for some time. Getting to a package
worth Bradley Beal is really difficult, and so if you're a team that's really
not up against any other limitations where you have to go dollar for dollar in
trades, which I don't think that kicks in just yet, where you can't
aggregate or take on extra salary. So there's that, but you still need
to send out like thirty seven point two thirty seven point three million dollars to
fit in Beal's salary. The Celtics can do that without including Jaylen Brown or
Jason Tatum. And are the Wizards going to accept that package? It probably
depends on Okay, well, they don't really have a use for Let's say
they're gonna go Malcolm Brogden and Marcus Smart or Malcolm Brogden and Derek White,
or maybe Robert Williams has involved in there, like they can get to the
number to acquire Beal with how kimming up Tatum or Brown? I don't know.
I think they probably have some interest in RW three, especially if they're
gonna move Porzingis and maybe even Gafford, like Brogg didn't Smart. Even white
good players don't necessarily fit their timeline. The Celtics can trade I'm gonna say,
up to three first round picks. It's technically four, but if they're
gonna run into second Apron concerns, if you're gonna stay under the second apron,
they can trade up to four first round picks. And so that gets
really interesting. Even though they're they're the Celtics, and so if you can
keep Jalen Brown and Jason hydn'man get Bradley Beal, Grant and I my co
host for anyone who's new round these parts. We talked about this that having
Beal on the Celtics, knowing how they their offense siels to bog down either
when the pace of play is slower or they just get nudged off their typical
offensive script if their shots aren't falling and they start committing turnovers and dribbling to
nowhere. Adding another guy who would be the best playmaker on your team,
I would say, especially if Marcus Smart ends up going out as part of
this deal, there's certainly a case take the swing and figure out the financials
later, especially if by the way, maybe you're not convinced, Like,
we don't know what's gonna happen with Jalon Brown Supermax. If he rejects it,
it's okay, well then we look at moving Jalon Brown. Here.
Grant had made the case that he would trade Jalon Brown for Bradley Beal based
off what the Celtics need. That couldn't be a one for one, but
you could just it would be you know, Jalon Brown and Daniela Gallinari.
I think the Wizards are the team though that ends up having to send out
other assets there and their first round pick situation is wild. I don't know
why you want to send out a first round pick in this scenario if you're
them, and so I think you then get into three team scenarios where it's
okay Jalon Brown to where and the Wizards are involved and it's you know Jalon
Brown. Is Portland give you number three for Jalon Brown, which would then
Land Bradley Beal and Boston and you're building framework. I'm just throwing out framework
that way. I guess I don't think Portland's gonna give up number three for
Jalon Brown, would be my guest. But maybe there's other stuff include like
can you get Denny Ava over to Portland as well? And if you're Washington
and you get you, it costs you Beal and Avdia maybe seconds to get
the number three pick in Missuars you're have on top of what you already have.
I think there's some people that might even argue, hey, you know,
throw out the number eight pick in there, and then it's but that's
to move up five spots, so it gets really really freaking weird there.
They have Johnny Davis, they have Corey Kisspert, they have Daniel Gaffer,
who actually might make some sense for Portland, so you can expand the deal
even delon righter Monte Morris as a backup guard for them. That's one route
you could go. But if Boston's gonna get Bradley Beal, I don't hate
it. I actually liked the destination, like finances be damned, and I
think their package will be rather competitive even if they're you know, let's say
Jalon Brown isn't involved. That's when you try and find other players. Can
you get extra first round equity for Derek White Malcolm Brogden r W three if
Washington doesn't want him? But I think I think you have at least one
player Washington would want in RWA, that's my guess. Maybe not, but
you can move these other guys. I don't know if Brogdon's worth a first,
maybe to a certain maybe to a contender, like a really late first,
but then your money has to go back to the Wizards there. If
they're rebuilding, that shouldn't be too much of an issue. But I would
think Derek White and Marcus Smart and RW three certainly get you additional first.
Plus you have all your own first after the one that conveys to indeed this
year. So I think they're a sneaky destination. The Nets. They'd be
kind of wild because they have Michael Bridges and Nick Claxton, and so let's
just say they decide, okay, those two are off limits and we'll go
from there. I mean, they're gonna have problems getting to the salary,
well, they won't even they have Joe Harris's expiring contract and they have Ben
Simmons, like you could just use Ben Simmons has two years left on his
deal for bradleybal Straight up, how many picks do we need to attach to
interest the Wizards here and we'll even you know, maybe we'll throw in Cam
Thomas Day Ron Sharpe and they have Look, the nets is their own draft
is pretty straft. But they have Phoenix's first this year that checked in at
number twenty one. They have Phoenix's first in twenty twenty five and twenty seven
and twenty twenty nine, plus Dallas's pick in twenty and twenty nine. There's
some swap rights sprinkled in, so they could I'm not saying they should,
but like they could trade a bunch of picks themselves. And so Ben Simmons
plus picks does that get it done? And you're the netscher decided, Hey,
we don't control our own draft, and so we want to win now
beal McHale Bridges and Nick Claxton. And if you get if you keep Dorian
Finney Smith as part Cam Johnson as well, if you keep him as part
of it, I mean, wow, that's a core I wouldn't I just
I feel like they're a team that could theoretically blinked. I doubt they will
be. That's not I feel like that's not all the front office thinks,
but that would be interesting. Charlotte's just a big fat No Chicago also know
with just zack Lelina de Martroz, and they're Cleveland's and know they've made their
trade. Dallas would probably love to get involved, but they can trade this
year's first, so the number ten and you know, a twenty six or
twenty seven first, depending on the how the obligation to New York shakes out,
and then what salary. So you're looking at Davis Berton's and Tim Hardaway
Junior or Tim Hardaway Junior and Matey Keeb doesn't get you there. So they're
best offer, and I think they're a team that would probably have to field
their best offer here. It's salary filler plus Josh Green, Jaden Hardy and
two first round picks, one of which is top ten. Does that what
the Wizards whistle? Maybe? But then again Beal if you're if you think
Irving's gonna come back, Beal's not what you need on this team. That's
sort of okay, Kyrie Irving is leaving, can we go out and get
Bradley Beal? And then you've just you've bankrupted your assets again and you really
have an edit defense, So rule Dallas out, But that would be their
best package Denver, reigning champion Denver, No Detroit. I just don't he'd
be interesting here. I want to I don't want to skip over these teams
that I feel like don't get covered enough, especially now. But I would
be interested to see Kay Cunningham play with Bradley b Okay Cunningham, Bradley Beale,
Jalen Durn I would actually love it. But they're just not feels about
to turn thirty. And I still think even after spending all that money on
Monty Williams, even after having Boyan Bogdanovich, they have the No. Five
pick, they have Jade and Ivy, the way that they pulled out the
Jameson Wisman trade, they're very they're skewing win later the Warriors. I think
this is a team that's going to come up and you can get to the
money if you're you know, without breaking up your core, because Jordan Pool
is going to start making twenty eight point seven million, and so between Jonathan
cominga Moses Moody that just gets you there basically to Bradley Beale's number, I
believe. And you have other like GP two. If you need to throw
them in there, do you do it? Yeah? I would do it,
and you can also trade your twenty six and twenty eight picks right now.
In addition, and again as I mentioned, you have COMINGO, you
have a mood. You have Jordan Pool. Now, Jordan pools guaranteed one
hundred and twenty three million over the next four years. Do the Wizards Ruth
as a net negative? Are they willing to take a gamble on him?
I think that very much matters. I doubt you get out of this deal
without including cominga and then you're very much aging up your core. But like
the window is Steph Curry and so adding the three year old shock creator who
can actually run an offense on like what we've seen from Jordan Pool, who
yes is tributed contributed to it, not just a contender, but a title
team. In the past, even the non Steph Curry minutes end were iffy
and he even had his peaks and values. Bill is going to give you
more of a steadiness and he offsets any decline offensively that you're gonna get from
Draymond Green or more specifically Clay Thompson moving forward. And also look, Thompson's
entering the final year of his deal. We don't know what's going to happen
kind of a safeguard against him leaving. Are you willing to pay all five
of these guys just the tax bill. We won't even need to calculate.
It will just be absolutely through the roof, moving through the roof next year,
but even just moving forward. But I think they're a team that should
absolutely investigate it. Houston's and know, even if they signed James Harden for
them to want Bradley Beale, I think they would need to end up with
you know, Jaalen Brown or somebody in a separate trade, maybe McHale Bridges
or something. But even that would feel sort of like aiming for a double
or a triple rather than a home run when accelerating your timeline. The Pacers
I would love Beal and Tyres Halibert and but just let it marinate. You've
got the number eight pick, not excuse me, number seven pick in this
year's draft, Benedick Mathern cap space. Yeah, like you don't need you
don't need Bradley, Like that's two. That's accelerating your timeline. Probably too
much. They would be though, just if you didn't have to give up
Miles Turner, Tyrese Halibert and man, if you didn't have to give up
Benedick Mathern, does it get more like you can step out of your way
to the money because of Buddy Heals nineteen point three million dollars salary and you
have cap space, so like you don't even if you really wanted to,
you could you could keep Buddy Healed and you just start, oh, hey,
Daniel Tyson, T J. McConnell, and we'll throw some jail and
Smith in there, Christa Warte like take a flyer on him. And then
picks. You have three picks in this year's draft, maybe not giving up
your own, you're gonna have to include these one of it. If you're
not in killing mathin, you're gonna have to include some of your own future
first in that they could be sneaky. That's just not how they operate.
I'm just looking in terms of basketball fit here. The Clippers I think are
actually a real destination for them. I don't think they're gonna care about the
forthcoming penalties, and they might look at this summer as okay, we can
aggregate salaries, like let's go ahead and do this, and their top offer.
I don't know if they would need to feel the entire thing. It's
basically I would say salary fillers, and Washington would very much be viewing it
as Okay, Marcus Morris doesn't fit our timeline, but his contrast expiring did
over Nick Patuma, Robert Comington, and we'll sell them off and get other
assets. But you go, you go, Terrence Man, you have the
number thirty pick in this year's draft. You could see if Washington wants fires
on Jason Preston or Brandon Boston, and then you can trade your twenty eight
or twenty nine picks right now, because again in theory, I guess you
could trade twenty eight and thirty if that whole seven years out doesn't FaZe in
until this summer. But I'm a little fuzzy on those details. So basically,
two first round picks, one of which is the number thirty pick in
in this year's draft, and then a future So the number thirty pick plus
another future first and then Terrence Man plus salary filler. Is that that might
not they might not want to give up that much if you could just get
it for number thirty in that future first Like hell yeah, I'm doing it,
throwing number forty eight from this year, which is the second secon round
pick. The Clippers have yet go go nuts there, So if Winger really
has and like you just worked at the Clippers, so we understand intimately how
rocky their future is. Hell yeah, Like you could view that as the
centerpiece and say, hey, like we're going on patient and this is the
twenty twenty eight first that we have, but like it's going to take time
to convey it's unprotected or whatever. I think that they could feel the competitive
offer as well. The Lakers, I don't see it. They can basically
do a lot of the same things. The Clippers can give you the twenty
eight or twenty nine or excuse me, they can give you the twenty twenty
nine first round pick. If that's unprotected, it gets interesting. And they
have number seventeen in this year's draft. But getting to the salary number is
just basically impossible. Even if you guarantee Beasley and Bomba and then just include
a whole bunch of players, you're not there. You only have forget even
guaranteed contracts. You have Lebron ad Mo Bamba, Malik Beasley, Jared Vanderbilt,
Max Christi and Shack Harrison as players who are just actually under your control
to say, okay, we if we want to get their contracts and have
them on the roster next season, they're there. The rest are just free
agents. That includes Austin Reeves. You're not gonna broke her assign and trade
with Austin Reeves nor, Like, that's just so unfeasible now because the way
that that structure would work and the average A rule value rules, you would
need to include Deanzel Russell in assign and trade or I guess you're not gonna
include Ruey So that gets that just gets too difficult. And I don't see
why Washington would be, uh, you know, want have any interest in
Delo. You would be looking at a situation then okay, they want number
seventeen, two twenty nine to make the money work. Can you find another
team that wants the Angel Russell that maybe they're not even sending the wizard something,
but they're you know, the they want Deanzel Russell, but they're still
gonna have to send money back to Washington anyway. If they don't want that
Deanzel Russell money. That's the only way the Lakers can get there. I
don't think it's strong enough. Memphis not a good destination for bial just because
they have Desmond Baine and he can play the three. Dylan Rooks is leaving,
and look if it's Jaron Jackson Junior, Steven Adams, Bradley Bald,
Desmond Baine and Amarant that's a hell of a closing five. And I think
you could scrap together enough defense. But even like the salary match and gets
a little weird because you're not gonna trade Triple J. You're not gonna trade,
as we said, Desmond Baine, so you're looking at like Luke Kennard
and Tias Jones and Steven Adams is just sort of the biggest chip, So
you would need to include at least three players. Probably would the Wizards have
interest in Brandon Clark, which is tours Achilles. You're still gonna need the
midimum of three players, maybe even four to include on the top of draft
equity, which you have all your own first including this year's plus Golden's dates
twenty twenty four top four protected first Miami I think is interesting. They can
trade Let's just assume they're going to avoid the second apron. They can trade
up to four first this summer, they have their twenty three. The twenty
five is okay, see, so they actually cannot trade that, So twenty
twenty seven and two twenty nine, so they can trade three first three swaps
if they wanted to. They have Tyler Heroes money. They have Duncan Robbinson's
money to get them the rest of the way. They could include Kyle Lowry
in that scenario sin season expire and maybe that interest. You know, Kyle
Lowry and Victor Oladipo's money basically gets you to what you would need for Beal
and then just flesh out picks that way, So you're keeping Hero. I
don't know how much appeal that has to them. Do you want to pay
Tyler hero twenty seven million dollars a year basically for or thirty million dollars a
year basically for the next four years something you need to ask yourself. He's
young enough and it's definitely gonna get you buckets. Do you view him as
a viable building block? They have Nikola Yo, which as well. They
would be a team though that you can get realistically, you can get Bradley
Beal and keep Jimmy Butler and bam at a bio. I don't know if
you get to keep Kayla mart It's just I'd be curious as to the fringe
assets, but the what the assets are like on the margins, how many
first round picks does it take? I imagine that they don't. The Wizards
don't really care. Maybe they care about getting number eight team this year,
but the Heat they can this is up to I'm not saying you I wouldn't
offer all of this, but Tyler Hero and three first and swats is what
you could go up to. And then there are other Kayla Martin if you
want to talk about him, and then you're gonna have to include other salary.
I don't think it's outside the rom possibility that the Heat would give up
this year's first and another first. And it just depends on whether you view
Tyler Hero as a net negative on his current deal, which that's eye of
the beholder stuff. Miami is a team though so far for looking at the
teams that were keep an eye on. I'm keeping an eye on Boston.
I'm keeping an eye on I hate to go completely big marketing. I'm gonna
keep an eye on the Warriors. They probably want to do jack shit.
They're shopping comingo for a pick. So let's just let's bounce the Warriors from
this. I keep an eye on Boston, the Clippers, and the Heat.
So far. The Milwaukee Bucks are also kind of linked to Bradley Beale.
I'm just gonna lay this out right now, based on how the salaries
work, sign and trade rules. You don't get Bradley Beale without giving up
Drew Holley or Chris Middleton. And that's assuming Middleton either agrees to assign in
trade or just opts in and you can move him. Why is Washington interested
in Middleton? That's another three team scenario. Even with through Holiday, it's
a three team scenario that gets ultracomplicated. And you also have to get into
the question of, well, how much of an upgrade is Bradley Beale offensively
from Middleton or Holiday. I think he's a fairly significant one, but it's
gonna come at a defensive downgrade, especially if it's true Holiday going out,
and I ultimately don't know if that's going to be worth it. If you're
really concerning that True Holiday is going to retire in two years at the end
of his contract, he has the forty point two million dollars player option in
twenty twenty four, twenty five. I mean, maybe get into that.
I just the Bucks. They had march on bow Champ and they can trade
one first round pick this summer, and that's like, you know, unless
the Wizards are in love with Pat Conaton or other teams are in love with
him or Grayson Allen or Bobby Portis, that's just kind of the extent of
their their best offer. I don't they definitely need what real Bill brings.
It's just too high end right now. And I think what they really probably
need to do is look more towards the wing or combo forward end of the
spectrum. Like the idea of Jake Crowder is really nice, but someone better
than Jake Crowder, Boya Bagdovich is like the guy that I would look at
for them. The Minnesota Timberwolves know, they just I don't even know.
Yeah, if you throw Jay McDaniels on the table, the Wizards might take
whatever you want in terms of salary matching, but you go talents for Bill
or something you could go to route. I just don't know why. Washington,
Yeah, I get younger, but I don't know why you do that,
So I guess this could be a sleeper team technically, and if you
had Bal Edwards and Gobert, let's just says the baseline. Wow, I'd
probably wouldn't give up Jay McDaniels for Beal at this point. New Orleans Pelicans
they just they have CJ. McCollum and Brandon Ingram and Zion. I think
that they need to diversify their frontline more than anything, and I guess they
could use a point guard. Bill isn't really that if you looked at,
okay, pick equity for CJ. McCollum and salary, just to go from
McCollum to Beal, how much of an upgrade is that. I guess it's
like it's an upgrade, I would argue, but CJ. McComb I think
he might. You could say he's probably the better off ball player at this
point, but Bill just hasn't had the same opportunity there. This just feels
like a non starter for me. And perhaps it would change if they did
something that like nuclear that skewed all the way towards defense. And there's the
whole Yeah, even if you traded Zion or brandon Ingram for the number three.
It just wouldn't make sense to go after Bill. The Knicks, another
team I think are going to be linked to Beal because they have those shoot
you first and some intriguing young players, and they definitely need the idea of
Beal's skill set. But it's just like, I won't call him a questionable
shooter. I think he's a better shooter than he's shown. This is not
Josh Hart RJ. Barrett level stuff here. We've seen him be able to
create for himself beyond the three point line, and I think if you put
him in a more streamlined role next to someone like Brunson, we see that
skyrocket. I just wouldn't skew that small. Which is why it's so tough
to upgrade the Knicks in a meaningful way. You need whoever you're acquiring to
crack your closing lineup, which Bill would do, but it Prefaby also needs
to come on like out of the three or five spot. I guess if
you're factoring Julius Randall in to hear, because let's say you're not as married
to RJ. Barrett or Mitchell Robinson, Bill doesn't really give you that even
if you wanted to run smaller and consider him a three. You can,
I guess, really evaluate the idea of Beal in New York if they're getting
rid of Julius Randall's part of the process, because then it's all right,
we have Jalen Brunson and Bradley Beal and will flesh out from there. But
and this is a perfect example for a team. If you're going to give
thirty five percent of the cap to Bradley Beal, you also can't have him
be your best player. It sounds weird because of how intrinsically limiting the new
CBA is on teams that are going to spend to the moon. But like,
if you're going to commit to you know, looking at Bradley Beal's salary
for next season on top of Jalon Brunson's, like, your two best players
are going to cost you seventy million dollars. Not the end of the world
in the grand scheme of things, but you want one of those players to
be better than Bradley Beal. And I think one of the forms of reckoning
that we will see as part of the new CBA is And look, there
was also the player awards that were establish where we need the minimum games played
to hit all MBA, there's probably gonna be some more wonkier all NBA results,
I would imagine, and that makes it less likely if someone happens to
qualify for supermaxes. I think the standard for these supermaxes are going to increase
that it's going to be harder to get. Whereas Bradley Beal, let's say
the twenty fifth thirties best player in the NB. He's not going to get
that, and you're also not going to get it as later in your career,
and we're not this is not the supermax. But looking at James Harden
as an example, where he might have been a no brainer Max going into
is going to turn thirty three, thirty four holds. I've been in saying
James Harden the age for like weeks now I keep forgetting it. He's going
to turn thirty four in August, whereas he might have been previously. Just
as no, he wasn't a no brainer Max to begin with, but it
would have been easier to give him the max and just work around it.
You're going to see players not yet that full boat as late into their career.
There'll be certain ones where it's just yeah, you know Lebron with gimm
whatever. But the James Harden I think is a perfect eample where I'd be
pretty surprised if he got the MAX this year. And so the standard for
giving out the MAX is going to increase when you look at their age and
then also the quality of player that they are, and those two things are
often related. But even Bradley Bield's peak was never the tenth best player in
the NBA. And so if you're the Knicks, to make him your acquisition,
unless you're again, if it's Randall and I don't even know, if
it's Randall and one young player and one pick, yeah, maybe, or
if it's just Randall and salary filler and two picks, yeah, then you
look at it. But I just don't bring Bradley Beal into an ecosystem that
has Randall and Brunson and Barrett. I just and then Josh Hart will come
back. It just feels awkward because he's not a caps lock shooter. I
don't think he's a facing liability, But to bring someone like him in,
I would almost argue that Zach Levine's a better fit for the Knicks then Bradley
Beale is, and I actually would just argue that he's a better fit.
People feel bad about his contract. I really don't. I would actually trade
for zach Lavine if the costs were the same. If it's just hey,
salary filler and two like we're going out as far as twenty twenty five and
it's not unprotected or something, yeah, I'm doing it without without question.
That's for the Knicks, though specifically, I think unless the cost is just
so low that you might as well roll the dice, it needs to be
a situation where hey, Julius Randall's leaving as part of the process, because
then you're still gonna have to play smaller. But if it's let's say you're
left with Beal, Heart and Brunson as you're one, two, three,
and then maybe Barrett's still your four if he's around after the trade, that's
that's just more appealing to me. I just don't think that you can go
Brunts and Randall and Beal. That's just too many. The overlap that you're
experiencing with RJ. Barrett, they aren't even Josh Hardlett like the spacing overlap.
You won't experience it as gravely with Beal, But he is someone who
should have the ball more than even an RJ. Barrett does. And so
that just puts a lot of strain on Julius Randall and Jalen Brunson. And
again if RJ. Barrett is still there is part of the deal to change
the way they operate the Thunder. Look, I'm gonna be honest, I
want the Thunder to do it. I just Josh Giddy, Bradley Beal,
Sha Guilers, Alexander chet Home, Grin, Jalen Williams, Like, you're
not trading any of those dudes to get Bradley Beale. Look you have you're
gonna be able to get to if you want thirty two million dollars in cap
space and so if you still need to find money to ship out for Beal,
so that's at forty six and so you need another let's just say like
fifteen to eighteen million. You have to make some tough decisions. It's okay,
do we include Josh or you know, do we include Blue Dort and
then we're still you could fill it out easily from there as Lue Dort.
That work's getting up, Bradley Beal. I'm just going to say they won't
do it. They probably shouldn't do it. I would, but I would
also pay gobs and gobs of money to watch Sga chet Home Grin Jalen Williams
play with Beel. Sga Chet Homegrin, Jalen Williams and Beal. That's a
hell of just a chord. Maybe Josh Giddy's still left over. If you're
trading Dort, how many picks are you including? Though, like you could
certainly get there. There's just so many different packages they could build in the
extra flexibility, but they won't do it. And I understand why they want
four years and two hundred plus millions a lot rounding into his age thirty season,
and you do have to start to their credit. You've paid Shay,
They're not going to get ultra expensive for quite some time. But Giddy is
extension knowledgeable. After this year, Jalen Williams won't be far behind Chet Homegrin
will be there before you know what. These things kind of sneak up on
you. And so if they're like one year less on Beel's deal, and
I'm again I'm not even assuming that he would he First of all, he'd
be foolish not to approve a trade. Okay, see if he actually wants
to win, but I respect that he might want to live in a certain
market. So we're not even considering whether Beal would say yes to these teams.
I think he'd say yes to Boston, probably Brooklyn, but what do
you say yes to Dallas? They're not gonna get involved in them. He'd
probably say yes to the Warriors, the Clippers, the Lakers, Mendis,
I feel like he should Miami for sure, Milwaukee I think he would,
Minnesota, New Orleans, I just don't think they're gonna be involved. And
then the Knicks, I think he probably say yes to them. If the
thunder really just decided to get involved, I would hope he would say yes
to them, because again, I don't think they need to trade. They're
not gonna need to trade chet Home Grin Jalen Williams SGA or who's the one
I'm forgetting chet home grin Jalen Williams SGA, Who's why am I? Why
am I blanking here? I don't think you would necessarily need to trade get
You probably need to trade dort and so like that might be a conversation on
its own, but like that's a hell of a corps. There the magic.
You could make a case that, hey, look at these non guaranteed
salaries that they have, just guarantee them ship out some expiring Gary Harris,
Jonathan Isaac, get to the money. You're gonna have cap space. You
have the number eleven, pick you don't need to keep. You keep the
number six. You're not giving that up for peel some future first including another
one coming down the pipeline from Denver in twenty twenty five. You could just
build kind of an innocuous package. Maybe you're okay with giving up jail and
Suggs and the deal who I still very much believe in. You could make
a case they're just they're not gonna do it. They'll make if they make
a major move. I think it'll be on a more minor scale. I
think you could make the case for them to do it, and they could
do it without trading Palo trading Franz Wagner trading number six. And I would
like you could. I would think you could. Maybe the Wizards want false
is that a deal breaker for you? But you might not even need to
trade. Wendell Carter Jr. It's just you can build your package strictly around
let's just say, salary filler, maybe some col anthony if they if they
want him, they want, you know, take a flyer on Chuma or
they like, But you could just do picks and salary and have the crux
of your roster still in place without giving up number six. That's appealing to
me. I'm not gonna lie, so would rather be able to approve of
it. I would hope so the magic of promising, but the magic aren't
going to do it. The Sixers reportedly not interested. Per Kyle Nubeck of
Philly Voyce, I totally understand why you're expecting James Harden to come back,
and I would be intrigued by a core of him. Maxie beal and and
be like, what is the how often those who are played together? And
look is it Tobias Harris and to pick what is that? What is that?
What is that getting you? I just, honestly, what is what
is that getting you? I know? I just that would be bottom of
the barrel type of offer there. So I just they're not interested, and
they wouldn't even they're less likely to revisit it. I guess if Harden Leaves
and even I just I wouldn't trade Maxie for Beal. I just I'm too
high on Tyres Maxie, and that feels just like, Okay, Beals so
much older and he's so expensive. That's yes, he's clearly the better player,
but I don't know that him Harden and ebid. You only want to
make that deal in fury if Harden and beat are still there to maximize that,
and then you're very much just saying, Okay, this is it,
and then this timeline is gonna blow up after this year if we don't win
it all or make the finals or something. The Sun's Durant Booker and Bill
would be very interesting. They have no way of acquiring Bradley Beale. It's
the Wizards would have to be love with DeAndre Aton and not getting any picks
back the Blazers. Again, I don't think Damian Miller and Bradley Beale is
just could we stop with Bradley Bal's at least a properly sized two guard or
even I don't know they list him at they still list him at six five,
or they bump him down to six four. Let's check here, he's
still he's at six four so yeah, we're done with the two you know,
not very tall guard ship in Portland. We've just we've seen too much
of it already. They shouldn't go after it. They're not going to give
the number three pick to do it. I don't think. Maybe he's worth
the number three pick to certain teams, but the teams that he's to which
he's worth the number three pick, are never gonna have the number three pick.
So this is just not the player. I think it needs to be
more of a wing, combo forward big that the Blazers Pascal Siakam brandon Ingram
even and if like if it was, you're gonna skew offense. Even a
Zion Williamson is gonna make more sense there. McHale Bridges, I just can't
see it, Sacramento, think about that offense. I just throw Kegan Murray
on the table some future first or just all future first in salary. I
guess maybe, But sa bonus Fox and Bill that doesn't do it for me.
They very much need a wing. They need a wing, and on
a lower level, they need some backup like frontline depth, and they might
at this point they might even just needn like a different type of four you
do Keegan Murray there, but if Barnes is gonna leave, you're gonna have
to change up your rotation. It gets a little shallower on the front line.
The Spurs, what's the what's the what's the going rate for Bradley Beale?
Could they just take him into basically cap space and give up DeVante Graham?
Is that of interest? They're not doing it. But if look,
if you're looking a really streamlined the development of Victor Weben Yama and Bradley Beale
says, hey, like, yeah, I want to play for Pop.
Who's rumored designed gonna sign like a three year extension or something like that.
This poor guy, by the way, if he signs a three year extension,
he probably just really wants to retire. And the Spurs went out and
got Wemby and it's like, I can't really but yeah, the Spurs,
No, they're not let's not even waste certain they don't make trades like this
generally. Maybe they get involved as a third party facilitated for another team.
Beal in Toronto, everyone's gonna say they don't want the contract. I be
in Toronto. If he would go, I like it. I don't know
what, You've already traded your twenty twenty four first, so you can't convey
at first you have this year's first at thirteen, and then you could trade
twenty six, twenty eight, and technically twenty thirty if you don't think you're
gonna be a separate if you're not a second Apron team this year, which
I don't think they would be. I just what's the salary, meat and
potatoes of this deal? Because Van Fleet is a free agent already. Gary
Trent Junior is probably gonna become a free agent if he opts into eighteen point
eight. That helps you get there. So you're gonna need to give up
o Gianna, Nobi and more salary to pair a Beal with Siakam and then
what is what is the endgame here? Beal, Siakam Barnes super intriguing.
But are you bringing Fred van Vleet back? Are you looking at signing trades
for Fred van Fleet to the van Vleet to the Wizards, which I guess
would help with some of the salary matching. It's just tough for me to
finagle what the package would look like here because you're not going to trade Scotty
Barnes and so it's very much O g N and OBI and Picks plus other
salary. And so you could do it. You have Chris Bouche, you
have I don't think they've Wagh. Daddy is young yet, so you could
use that contract to your advantage. You have Otto Porter junior A now an
expiring deal, precious Atcha. You could get there. I just don't know,
you know, if you're giving up ogn and OB he was about to
command a new contract. Is this another three team four team scenario where you're
sending Og to Portland or I don't really like him in Memphis or Brooklyn or
just the or the Knicks just somewhere, the Kings, the Warriors and they're
sending stuff to Washington. How much does it take on top of Ananobe,
I wouldn't be against it, especially if van Vleet is leaving. I'd probably
like those two together, even though they're on the smaller end, just because
of what Van Vleet does defensively, and if you're willing to foot the bill,
so and if Trent's like, if Trent's leaving and you're gonna bring Van
Vleet back and peartle back and Siakam and you have Bal. I would love
to know what your salaries, Like, just Siakam and Bial next season together
are gonna be making like ninety eighty plus million dollars excuse me, closing in
like between eighty and eighty five million. That's a lot. And then if
you add van Fleet's next contract to that, Okay, it gets weird.
I wouldn't if you would go to Toronto, I would just investigate it.
I would if if I were the Raptors, depending on how much does it
costs on top of an anobie, I think the salary to get there,
you probably just wouldn't mind so annobe other salary. How many picks does it
take to get there? Utah No, I mean they could just take Bal
into cap space, which is interesting and Kessler marking in bl I'm like,
I get do you get away with keeping off you us have so many future
first and so you add number nine in this year's draft. I guess you
don't give that up for beal if it's just picks and it's causing your cap
space and it's just like one like why not, like unless you really want
to rebuild and kind of juice up the value of your own pick. But
you have all these other first round pick. I mean, if you look
at just Utah's stash of picks is just mind like they're reaching in terms of
future first just OKAYC level circa a few years ago, and now OKAYC is
starting to kick those down the road. So they have three firsts in this
year's draft. I believe I should double check that they have. Yeah,
they have number nine and number twenty eight and number sixteen, So they have
three first in this year's draft. They're a little bit light when it comes
to two thousand and twenty four. They only have their own, but they
can and that's OKAYC. But with top ten protection. If you yet bal
it's probably gone. That's interesting and actually so yeah, And then in two
thousand and twenty five, I mean, I haven't actually written down here,
so you're you're looking at the jazz Is bounty of picks. In two thousand
and twenty five is when it really starts to get interesting. They have their
own Cleveland's unprotected, Minnesota's unprotected. In two thousand and twenty six. They
have their own swap rights with Cleveland or Minnesota. In twenty twenty seven,
they have their own Cleveland's unprotected, LA's the Lakers top four protection and Minnesota's
unprotected. In twenty twenty eight they have their own, and then swap rights
with Cleveland, and then in twenty twenty nine they have their own Cleveland's unprotected
pick and Minnesota's at top five protection. I mean, holy shit, like
you if it was you didn't have to send out any bodies at this point,
It's okay, we'll take Bradley Beal in a cap space. Maybe you
have to send out some bodies if you want to bring back Kelly Olnick and
carry Jordan Clarkson's hold, but you get a bonus if talent Horton Tucker opts
out. I didn't think he would. John Hollinger of the Athletics that he
might, though, And so if that happens, if it was just cap
space and just like, hey, we're gonna throw you one of these imminent
picks too, it's not even distant. I just if you really want to
rebuild, I get why you want it. And Bradleybal's obviously not going to
wash Itton. So this was a way longer than I intended it to be.
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