Almost as Blue Ridge mountains and pants log is a little older than the trees,
younger than the mountains grow in lagrees. But aunt place and West Virginia
down, Mama, thank you more country roads. I don't know what think
you do from here. I'm still so annoyed. But all I have to
say is just damn. Every time I start to think that Lucy's gonna let
me kick that ball and Bill's gonna win it all in Morgantown again, well
then he does the only logical thing. Remember on the last show where we
talked about how, hey, something we haven't ever gotten to do is a
nice comfortable blowout when in stillwater. This is exciting. Well, now we
gotta do something we've done many, many, many, many, many many
many times, which is talk about them going up to where else but and
taking a big fat l where something stupid at the end of the game happens.
Yeah, I mean it's happened several times. This is probably this is
arguably the worst time, though, because this is the worst on there.
Like, if you rank all the West Virginia teams, there's a decent chance
that you could say Kansas won up there against the best one, which was
the eight team team and they've lost against the two worst ones. Painful,
just a painful loss for Kansas, who loses second week in a row.
They've lost just a head scratching road game, but this one was oh so
very different than Central Florida, And yeah, what else are we gonna do?
Then? This squeeze in a show right before the Chiefs go up to
Orchard Park and play a road playoff game. I'm sure that'll that'll go great,
Sis setting up for there's no no history of Kansas losing to West Virginia
and yeah, that's that is wild. All of the each of the other
two Patrick Mahomes playoff losses as of right now, happened happened right after that,
right, I guess he's lost three, but two of the three whatever,
Yeah, yeah, the last two. This is inside the paint on
rockchokblog dot as. I'm Ryan Landrath, I'm Caadarius Tony's injury. I am
Bob Huggins waistband for both of us. So the Jayhawks go up the old
or sorry, we're watching an NFL playoff game, trying not to react live.
I'm gonna do my darnedest, But if I do. Yeah, I
just do. Ugs, Bunny, we're gonna talk about Kansas losing to West
Virginia. Uh, you know that just on this show, and then we're
still like the complete and utter pieces of that. We are gonna pick them
to win their next game. It's complete sweet because we never learned from our
mistakes or our sins on this show. So let's just let's just get on
with it. Let's get on with this, this awesome recount ninety one,
number three, Kansas eighty five. Landon wrote these notes and he wrote,
hello Darkness, my old and that that feels about right. What happened?
What was that? Well? You said that this was terribly different than the
UCF game, Ryan, and I mean, it was certainly much higher scoring
than that. But I feel like this was just the higher scoring version of
that game in Orlando, because this was a game that Kansas should never ever
lose, and yet does because the opposing team makes insane make after insane make
both from three and two, and wrote in this case to a very high
scoring shootout. Both teams at fifty before the break. Kansas did have some
stretches where they seemed to take momentum, but the Mountaineers always took it back,
and they led for all but thirty five seconds, at least according to
my count of the last fourteen minutes of the basketball game. Kansas defense and
rebounding were a little suspect for much of the game, though, of course,
some of those made threes from Westernia have nothing to do with the defensive
effort of the Hawks. They just went in. Nick, let's take a
let's each take a side. Do you want to take though, why this
isn't that bad side? Or do you want to take the why this is
a big, fat problem side. I'm gonna take the I told you so
a side. I've mentioned many times that this team just has serious lapses defensively.
I mean you saw that in this game, serious lapses defensively and just
down the stretch in some of these games, not closing it out in a
strong manner. I just ate a fortune cookie from Panic Express, and it
said, only your expectations can slow you down. Well, when my expectations
are bill self winning games on the road, very very low expectations for that.
But I will say that so much. I will say that this,
of course West Virginia, the one game they make more than what from the
field from three they make ten to three pointers and it's just, I mean,
it's absurd. There's it was a cataclysm of a bunch of different factors
come in into play here. I don't think hundred Dickinson looks one hundred percent
healthy. I don't know what that was defensively for him in this game,
but he was not even present at times defensively, even in the paint.
And it seems like ky you switches were terrible, wide open threes for Westerninia
left and right, and then down the stretch. You know that Kevin mccouler
had a huge, a huge stretch there, but outside of him, you
know, it seemed kind of like Johnny Furfey, who we were really high
on the first half, kind of disappeared offensively and defensively in the second half.
Nick Timberlake, who had a spark in the first draft, was not
there in the second half either, And of course, on Marco Jackson came
in and did what on Marco Jackson does is absolutely nothing. And that was
the result. KU loses another road game to another stinker team in the conference.
It's perplexing. They played well offensively in this game. You can't cite
their cap for that eighty five points in the road, but at the same
time, everything just happened to go wrong down the stretch they tied it up.
I texted you guys and said, this is the game. This is
the part of the game where Ku is gonna go on there, run and
close it out, win by seven to ten. And that didn't happen,
just like the UCF game. So it is perplexing, all right, So
there's that side landon. I'm gonna give my spiel and then you can tell
you can tell everybody which side you think is more right. Nick took the
more pessimistic side. I've thought about this. I've thought about this a lot.
I've had at some time to digest this one, and I'm still pretty
annoyed about it, which I don't normally stay after games. But I think
that I'm more annoyed than I am troubled. Like I didn't. I don't
feel like I watched anything that makes me think less of this team. I
don't think I watched anything that makes me think, well, that's a big
problem, or oh they're not good enough. They scored eighty five points on
the road like it was an annoying game where definitely a middling team had their
best day of the year. They made a bunch of shots they shouldn't have.
Somebody said that if they each team had made their season average of threes
relative to how many they took, Kansas would have won by fourteen points.
But like, I feel like what I watched was a team that normally wins
eighty percent of the time where they're tied with five minutes left, that now
twice in two weeks has not done that. That's unlike what we've come to
know of bill self, especially on the road, and they've definitely hurt themselves
in the conference race. They have a much easier schedule in the first half.
In the back half, they're three and two. They've lost road games
to two of the worst three teams in the league, so that may be
a problem. But do I think that this team is that there's going to
be a moment in the NCAA Tournament where I think back to this game about
how all, just like West Virginia, that's why they're gonna lose. No,
I really don't. I think that they really did run into a bad
team that played their best day and the offense was plenty good enough. They
didn't turn it over very much, had a couple of big ones down the
stretch, but I thought they played well enough to win that exact effort.
Kansas gives wins ninety five per sin of games they play in that coliseum.
It just wasn't good enough yesterday. I'm definitely irritated, and we're definitely gonna
play the White Guy music and complain about it. But I don't think I
saw anything that leaves me more troubled than I was before. Am I am
I wrong? I don't know. I'm trying to take glass half full.
I do agree with that, take that, Yeah, I don't. I
didn't see anything from this game that has been a lagging issue for Kansas other
than like bench production, I guess. But even the bench Nick Timberlake was
good. We'll talk about him. But yeah, I think that's true.
I think that is true that I don't think this game had any of like
the true telltale signs of what will be a Kansas's inevitable marchal loss. And
maybe it is maybe, maybe that marchal loss happens and it is exactly this
game. It didn't feel like that, Like a lot of the games.
Do like the UCF loss. Truly did feel that way the UCF loss.
We've watched them lose that tournament game many times. Yeah, I don't think
I'm overly concerned because of this game, though it is very strange that they've
lost to maybe the worst two teams in the conference, or certainly two of
the worst three. That is weird and that does not normally happen for Kansas.
West Virginia definitely right now is the worst among the resume. I will
say that I think West Virginia will have a better second half of the year
than first because they've had a lot of guys, like three of their top
five scorers have missed half the season. Crease It didn't play half the year.
Jesse Edwards hasn't played since December, Ray Kwon Battles only played eight games.
I think that team will be more competitive in the second half. Certainly,
they have been just abysmal to this point. They had six wins before
yesterday UCF. We saw how they they're setting records for futility. They were
so bad yesterday so and honestly, if they just won one of them,
if they just found a way to win one you're four and one, you're
in first place, and you have your early January stinker. You still have
a winning record on the road. It's the fact that they lost them both
that that really burns. Uh. But yeah, it was a it was
a it was a frustrating basketball game. Weird stuff happens there. Uh.
And and they're not perfect. But do I still think they're not one of
the five best teams in the country because they lost a game like this?
No, I still think they are. I mean, we have eyes,
We've seen the rest of the teams. Right, Can you honestly name me
five teams better than Kansas even after that? I don't think five. No.
And and here's I'm gonna I'm gonna kick off with this for t Purdue
is better. Yes, I think Yukon's probably better, honestly. And then
North Carolina might be better. Right now, North Carolina's really really untested.
But yeah, probably like that. You might you might get to three or
four. I don't know if you can get more than that. I'm certainly
not putt anybody in the Big twelve over them. The three point shooting defense,
I'm gonna I'm gonna as the as the the intellect of ku Twitter.
I'm gonna let you in on a secret. Three point defense isn't a thing.
It's not a thing. You guys can think that's not true. Though,
that's not true. No, it is true. It is all right.
Let me ask you this is definitively thing. Would you rather give a
college shooter a wide open shot or a very gardage? Okay, okay,
obviously, yes, you got to put your arms up. But good three
point shooting defenses versus bad ones, It's is eighty percent of the equation is
luck. You can think back right now to which Kansas teams were really good
on the interior defensively, right, some teams would come to mind, the
ones with Joelle Enbi, the ones with Jeff Wi right, that would come
to mind. Yes, can you, I dare you right now name the
best three point shooting defensive teams in Kansas and the bill self era you can't
because it's it's not a skilled thing. I will, I will definitely admit
that like three point shooting, especially at the college level, can be a
much luckier thing not And I it's weird to even argue this point because I
do think in this game, like eight to nine of the threes that West
Virginia made or not even like a plus looks. They were like totally average
to not great looks, and they just kept splashing three after three. There's
only a couple that I thought Kansas defense actually broke down in any significant fashion
to allow looks. I don't know. I think, yes, there definitely
is a fluky factor to three point defense. They were in the top seventy
five and three point defense if you will, going out percentage of threes allowed
yesterday. So I guess they just, according to Twitter, completely forgot how
to guard for two hours when the plane touchdown in Morgantown, right like this
was a Statistically, this was one of the better three point defenses in the
CELF era entering yesterday's game. Yeah, I mean it is fluky, but
three point defense does exist. I mean, you can't just let guys shoot
all the time. But I don't watch KHO close out on shooters and put
their arms up and think, well, they're much worse than the other three
point shooting defenses I've seen. I think it's yeah, I think that they're
as a Kansas effect. We've now seen five games in Big Twelve play and
somebody has had a career high day. Battle had more points in this game
than he had in the previous three combined. The one dude I can't think
of his name, uh mate, the guy that went three for three on
threes had made one in all a big twelve play like there's a fluky element
to it. But whatever. I didn't watch that defense and think, wow,
these guys couldn't guard, couldn't guard anything. I watched that game and
thought, wow, the other team made some shots. That's gonna happen Sometimes
I don't know, I honestly do agree. We also have to talk about
the refs because to the twelfth degree, Nick, how's about that foul call
that took away what was essentially a guaranteed game tying three on one that Kansas
would have gotten in the final twenty seconds. Yeah, it was so stupid.
The fellon Nomarco Jackson dove ripped the ball out of his hands. In
the refs, if you do anything, if you would make any attempt on
the ball, the refs are going to call a foul on you. I
guess they at least they weren't the monitor for seven and a half minutes.
You know what really I did not see a single soul with a blue check
mark the Jeff effing Goodman's of the world. Bitch about that call. But
when it happens at Alan Fieldhouse, every blue check mark with ESPN credentials in
their name, you would think that someone is being robbed at gunpoint at the
fog. It is unbelievable how this narrative, it doesn't fit the narrative.
Shocking media, and if it doesn't fit their narrative, they don't talk about
it. That's shocking truth like that, But it's unbelievable, like that's a
horrible foul. West Virginia gets the second best whistle in the Big twelve.
The difference can palm analyzes home whistle versus away whistle. We've seen it many
times up there in the past. Just a disgrace that they called that.
And yeah, would have been a tie game with about fifteen seconds left,
and then they probably would have given up a three at the logo that k
you would have bitched about not being well guarded enough, So I don't know
if it even would have mattered. But yeah, the refs are total and
complete every time in this conference. You know that there's always gonna be something
that they screw up. You just and as Bill self said, Bill self
even said it was a point that they didn't get a good whistle. It
just comes down to you cannot be on a spot where you need to count
on a good whistle with twenty seconds left in a two point game against a
team that's won a third as many games as you have. I guess that's
the that's the main stick. That's all I got. Nick, let's see
have something to say about the refs. Tell me about Hunter Dickinson. Stupid.
Yeah, Hunter Dickinson is a great player, at least offensively. He
scored nineteen points to five rebounds and five assists in thirty six minutes. He
is not a good defender, though. He lacks rebounds and effort effort rebounding
At times. Teams know this and take advantage. Be honest, Ryan,
as R Atlanta says, you know he's kind of lazy, and he is
he is. How many times we could go rule the tape if we were
in in like say we're a high school football team and we're in the way,
we're in the room watching film on a Thursday afternoon, we'd go roll
the tape of Hunter Dickinson. When a guy is driving into the lane,
Hunter Dickens's supposed to come up and play help defense, and he gives the
guy a wide open path to the lane, doesn't even contest, and is
three feet away from the basket when the guy's up going for the layup.
It's he is time and time again. I don't know if it's situational awareness.
I don't know if it's just laziness. He is often in the wrong
position and kind of what I love about kJ Adams. kJ Adams seems to
contest a lot more step into the lane and cause cause the shooter to stop
and make a different decision. It seems like Hunter Dickinson, if it's not
his man is, it's not his problem. And we've seen that time and
time again where teams drive, you know, Dewan Harrison, Romarco Jackson gets
cut off by a point guard driving around to the basket and instead of stepping
in and playing defense and making the contest on the shot, Hunter Dickinson lets
them go by and is there for the rebound I guess. But outside of
that, it seems like a very lazy effort from him. I mean than
Glennon has that this isn't two K with the fatigue sliders turned all the way
down, though, Like he's seven to two sixty and he plays thirty some
minutes a game. Yesterday he played thirty six, Like are we he?
I don't know if it's fair to just expect this koliath of a man to
give one hundred percent steam every time, And because if he did, I
don't think he means kJ Adams can. kJ Adams is there. It seems
like kJ Adams speeds down the floor and back and it's back to make plays.
Defensively, Hunter Dickinson doesn't even move as much as kJ Adams. Many
of his shots are just a little dink around and lay it over somebody.
kJ Adams is the one driving into the paint to dunk the ball. kJ
Adams is also a much better athlete than Hunter Dickinson, though, and I
think they should both be good athletes. They're college athletes. I mean,
Hunter Dickinson I think gets down the floor pretty good for a guy of his
size. I don't know. That's that's my that's my it's he's not the
best defender, and we've seen that. This is now landon you and I
talked about it, how we listed off the three game. When Hunter Dickinson
isn't the best center on the floor, Kansas has lost twice. Yesterday he
was the best center on the floor, but whenever he's held I mean,
you look at his games. He's been held to five rebounds, four rebounds
and eight and his three in KU's three loss, which is unacceptable when you're
seven foot two. I mean, I also see the rebounding thing. I
think in yesterday's game is in order for a hundred Dickinson to rebound, the
other team has to miss every so often, and they didn't, so he
didn't have very many opportunities for it. But I'm not I'm not blaming the
guy that scored that had nineteen to five, five and two. That's a
flaw though. It's like we talk, the whole point of the show in
this segment is to analyze where this team is going wrong. And if you're
gonna sit there and say, well, I think it's just the other team
shooting the ball, well, I think you've got to take a little bit
deeper analysis on why this team has lost to UCF in West Virginia. Do
you think it's more than that so much defensively. I know the threes are
an anomaly. This is a Western team who's not good to shooting threes.
But we've seen time and time again where hundred Dickinson off of switches has been
a defensive liability at times, and I think that I think it's started to
be a little bit more apparent. And like you said, it's hard to
nitpick. This guy scores about twenty points a game. But when you're talking
about a roster who is four or five deep, and you're aligning on contributions
so much from these top four guys, his defense can be can be scrutinized
even if he is making large offensive contributions. I agree. I agree with
what you're saying that his defense is not a strong suit. I just don't
think we can't expect the guy to be. You know, this isn't create
a player where you can make the guy all the way great at everything.
Like he's on ten out of ten on offense and just about any way that
you can possibly be for a center, he's not going. I don't think
it's realistic to expect him. A guy with that size and part of what
makes him so good on offense, is his size to also be this cage
a Adams level athlete that can give it a have an unstoppable mode or I
don't know, Landa, What are your thoughts on all this? Like,
I think Nick's right, his defense isn't his strong suit. I also don't
know if there is a player out there that would be Hunter Dickinson's physique and
be as good as he is on offense that is also Mark Garrett in a
seven to two body on defense. Uh, I don't know. I mean,
I think we have seen those kind of players though. I mean obviously,
like quickness is not gonna be a seven to two guys strength, Like
that's just you know, that's not how a human body works. He's gonna
be a little slower. I understand that. I don't think he's lazy.
I don't think he's lazy. I think I think I think he is a
little bit lazy. Yeah, I think he olays quite a bit. Uh.
And I don't think that's out of like he can't get there. I
think he's not getting there on my choice. I think he is reaching on
like by choice on on drives. I think he's letting guys go a little
bit. Obviously, he's a very good rebounder. I do think his effort
at rebounding well at times is spectacular. I mean, he's had some insane
effort rebounds, don't get me wrong, but he very much kind of picks
and chooses when he's gonna do that. I would criticize him also for his
boxing out, but I feel like all Bill Self teams are weirdly not good
at boxing out, So that's not really a Hunter Dickinson specific thing. I
guess that's just like a Kansas thing. More so, that's the biggest reason
that if you want one reason they lost that you can blame on the Jayhawks.
It's not the three point defense. It's the rebounding. We saw it
down the stretch out There were a couple moments where Dickinson did have moments where
it looked like with his angle he should be able to get the board,
especially down the stretch. Those last two three minutes were brutal. Johnny Furfey's
inexperience showed. Kevin mccullor didn't exactly throw a strike across Johnny Furfey's plate byce,
but he kind of did say, yeah, we didn't box out well
enough in those final two minutes, and there were only a couple guys he
could really be talking about there. So it was a weird game. Everything
that could have gone wrong did and you're these happened sometimes, and I mean,
yeah, I just think Hunter Dickinson, while not perfect, I think
Hunter Dickinson, if I had to write down a list of the top ten
problems with this Jayhawks team, I don't think anything involving his name would be
on my top ten list. I can't think of one. I understand that.
I think that's pretty shockingly what I'm about to say. I think that's
pretty fair. We did already talk I think he's the main problem. We
did already talk about it. Just to give you the numbers one more time,
teams came into this game only shooting thirty three percent from three point range
against Kansas in conference play. The Oklahoma State game did a lot of did
a lot of pulling down. That number doesn't really encapsulate how it feels like
teams shoot against Kansas, because in this game, twelve for twenty one were
the Mountaineers, which is over fifty percent. They started nine for eleven in
the first half. This is the worst three point shooting team in the Big
Twelve, they entered at thirty percent. Why does this happen? Go ahead,
and we'll just go ahead and play the music. At this point,
you have you had Kirkreas our white guy of the game every time with three
for four with some ridiculous makes all in the first half. Raykwon Battle was
their best player. Twenty eight percent three point shooter made three of them.
And you have a cook, a cook, a nice he's not white,
but you did have a guy with the same name as for his first name
and his last name that made his first three of conference play. And then
twenty seven percent three point shooter Kobe Johnson made one. Who's the guy that
was three for three? Uh, that guy is actually a good shooter.
He's like a forty percent shooter on the season, I think, but he'd
only made one in four Big twelve games. Uh, let's see here,
Seth Wilson. You know why Landon, You know why it says he's thirty
percent because he went three for three yesterday and he's now twenty for fifty this
year. It pulled up his numbers by a lot. Yeah, that did
so just the just the stupid tire fire of a game. He went from
thirty six to forty in one game, averaging four points a game, three
for three from three now and then the white the white guy that we knew
was gonna be annoying. I can't think of his name. The guy was
Slazynski, Quinn Slazynski, but he knew he was gonna make one. Yeah,
yeah, so idiotic. Whatever. Had to get that off my chest.
Gotta love the Jayhawks Kansas is white Guy one of their many actually this
year. Weirdly, Johnny Furfey. He opened the game three for three from
behind the arc and proceeded to make just one more shot all game. He
finished with thirteen points back to back games with seven rebounds for him, three
assists on four to twelve from the floor, and three of nine from three.
That's six straight make or misses from Furfey from behind the arc. The
offense is definitely better with him in the starting lineup. I think that's pretty
undeniable. But I do think the next step for him, if he wants
to become an even better offensive player, I think would be to look to
score on his own, create his own shots. Not that I think he
was inherently the problem. I think he just missed some mostly pretty good looks.
But I do think if he can learn to create his own shot,
maybe drive a little more, I think that's the next step to take him,
to start him. Nick Timberlake also played well, had twelve points,
two for five from three. Continues to play better. I'm pulling him in
here, though. Talk about Timberlake and Furfey combined for twenty what what did
you say? Furfrey scored again? He scored twelve, thirteen, thirteen,
So they combined for twenty five points, which is fantastic, right, we
would thought they But however, how many of those points were in the first
half? All of timber Lakes were all of them. It wasn't all I
think we had. I think Forfey had one basket. I thought Furfey made
two rows in the second half. Yeah, so twenty one and Furfey in
Stillwater had fifteen in the first half and zero in the second half. And
then kind of the same thing here. Furfey, as brilliant as he was
early in the game, he killed them late. He missed six straight threes.
As you said, landon the offensive rebounding, which is he's pretty good
at for somebody that's his experience level that primarily plays the guard. It was
brutal as boxing out positions. Timberlake didn't do anything in the second half and
just kept chucking up shots. Nick, this has to be a good thing,
right, We're seeing these guys combined for twenty five points they played.
I mean, there's a reason Kansas is able to get it in the mid
eighties. It's because they were getting bench contribution. But man like you,
how do you look at this game. Do you look at this game as
a net positive for these two? I think you probably have to, but
there's also negative. I would say a net positive. I mean, I
think it has to be for Nick Timberlake. We haven't gotten anything out of
this season. It's like the meme of the guy pointing with a stick and
say do something. He finally did something at least, And again, I
want to reiterate that with sports. Sports are so fickle in the fact that
if k You would have won this game ninety two to ninety one, we
would have been saying, oh Ku was willed to the game, will to
win the game because of these two bench players in their production good they lose
by a couple of points, and it's like, well, we still have
a question, Like, no, they had a good game. These guys
are right exactly in the progress that we want them to be at, at
least from the standpoint of where they've been. This is a positive trend for
KU's pinch. When you're talking about guys four deep starting lineup, four great
starters, and then the rest is a question mark. Now you've got maybe
fifth man and then a sixth man maybe emerging here in conference play. I
think it's a good sign. Albeit even despite the loss. You know,
that's just the third time all year that Nick Timberlake has made two threes in
a game. Really wow, opener Yale and West Virginia. Yeah, Nicks,
Right, that's a fair point. Like Furfey didn't help them a time
down the stretch. You would love to see him make one or two additional
shots, but definitely these two they played well, and the experience, like
people want Johnny Furfey to play ahead of l Marco Jackson, doesn't matter which
one of them plays, You're gonna have to have one of them in there
late and they're gonna have some freshman moments. We would we were this close
to talking about el Marco Jackson making maybe the biggest play of the season for
Kansas with that steal that also could have been a ten second call, that
also could have been a travel refs ass but were this close. That does
tell you how fickle the whole thing is. I guess good good Win.
I don't think we need to see anywhere with Marco Jackson though, El Marco.
There are his stats down here. Two points in a rebound in eight
minutes. Yeah, just just I mean, I feel like two points one
rebound ten minutes ish is pretty much Elmarco Jackson every day. Jamary McTell played
four seconds. I don't remember those four seconds? Was it at the very
end? It must have been. I don't remember it either. And then
Parker Brown may as well have stayed in the team hotel, which is going
to happen on nights where Hunter Dickinson has uh has thirty six minutes. The
bench was better. There's a reason they scored in the mid eighties, and
it's because they got fourteen bench points instead of the usual two. But yeah,
I think the one Harris is probably the Dwan Harris and kJ Adams are
the two that didn't play as well. As they had been, and maybe
that's who you blame for. I don't know. I've had a hard time
blaming anyone in Kansas for this loss. I do think it just kind of
happens, Lamb. And you did point out that all of their starters had
at least three assists. That's cool. They continue to be great moving the
ball. Yeah, they had a lot of assists, and like you said
earlier, I think they had like seven turnovers or something like that. It
was under ten. So yeah, that's been much better the ball. That's
your long term focus here. The turnovers have been better. They've only turned
the ball over twenty total times in the last three games combined. And look
how much better their offense was seventy six against Oklahoma, ninety against Oklahoma State,
and now eighty five against West Virginia. They went out and they had
almost five baskets per turnover in this game. And that's gonna lead to a
lot of success. And another reason that you're gonna lead to a lot of
success, Nick, is whenever you have a first team All American leading you
and scoring almost every single night, tell me about Kevin mccullor. Yeah,
McClure was fantastic again. Again, these losses are not his fault. He
had that three at the end of the game, should have been called a
three, but the refs again, foot was on the line. I don't
think the foot. I don't think that. I don't think his foot was
on the line. I think that it was. It looked like it because
his blue is shue was blue and it was right up against the blue line.
I think it was behind it. I don't think you had the visit
to the video evidence to overturn it. But that's just my gripe, So
screw that. But Kevin mccullure, he was fantastic again, no fault.
Twenty four points five is his four rebounds ten for fourteen overall two for four
from three, best player in the conference. I think that if Zach Heaty
wouldn't leave freaking college, he would be a consideration for the Naysmith Player of
the Year. But do you think that Kevin McCuller has a better chance right
now of winning Big Twelve Player of the Year than Hunter Dickinson expectation wise,
Yes, I think he is the best player in the Big Twelve. Like
we've said all year, kind of consistently Hunter Dickinson's their most important and Kevin
McCuller is their best. I think that's probably right. I just wonder who
the coaches would vote for it. Also, right now we can't act like
either one of them would be a locked because Kansas is on pace to finish
in like fourth place. But McCuller fantastic. It's so fun. No,
he's got to just be so frustrated seeing these brilliant efforts where he shoots ten
for fourteen from the floor. Go to waste up there, because I mean,
man, he's had at least three assists in every game for more than
a month, like just twenty, averaging twenty point six boards and five assists
per game while shooting great percentages making half his shots. Phenomenal effort for Kevin
McCuller, as is the usual. I agree with landon on the three.
I thought live it was clearly a two, but Twitter was irate about it,
which makes me think maybe I just didn't see the right angle. Uh
yeah, that was that was not a go. The angle they showed on
TV looked like a two to me on that That's what I thought. But
but but everybody, like everyone on Twitter kept going about it, and now
hearing Nick thought, maybe there is more to it. I don't like,
maybe there was the blue shoes an interesting thought. Uh, because yeah,
it was not a It was not a great thirty seconds from the for the
k You gets all the calls fans after after that? Uh okay, uh,
Landon, tell me about Dewant Harris. I kind of feel like this
should be a talking point. Uh because because I you score eighty four or
eighty five, it's hard to blame your point guard. But and the stats
were fine, but there just seemed to be something not there. Yeah,
he had four points, five assists, and five steals, which is a
pretty good stat line in thirty six minutes. Uh. We we know what
Harris is at this point. But I agree, And I don't know if
it's just lack of scoring or what exactly it is, but it does feel
like there is something that is lacking. Nick. I know you think that
Dewan Harris does limit this team. But again, in a night where the
Jayhawks score eighty five, can you really blame the guy? Uh No,
I don't think so. Like it's not we weren't scratching our heads in this
game, saying Casey scored fifty seven points and No One Harris had four points.
I think you're right in that looks you know, five steals is fantastic.
Five assists about on par with where he's at, maybe a little bit
higher than that. But I don't know. I just I'm glad Dewan Harris
took that three in the first half. I want him to shoot it more.
He's shown that he has a nice stroke and can get it in.
But I just don't know what to say about him at this point. He's
just kind of there, and it's it's always been the intangibles for Dewan Harris,
the thing that doesn't show up on the stat sheet that come piles over
the game. But I just it seems like he's kind of leveled off since
since his rise, since he's gotten the KU. I don't know if you
can agree with that, but I don't know. The National Championship seemed to
be a high point for him, and since then, it just seems like
he's just done the job a lot of times well, sometimes head scratchingly,
and you just wish maybe he had that next part of his game that would
that he would score a little bit more and it would help Kansas alleviate that
pressure to have Johnny Furphy and Nick Timberlake score as much as they did in
this game to get to eighty five points. But I don't know. I
mean, Harris made a layup within the first like five minutes of the game.
It was real early. And then he made the basket late in the
first half when Nick Timberlake threw an insane pass that went up and over a
guy that was way taller. So he didn't score in the second half.
That's the thing I noticed right there. You have a point guard that played
the entire second half and didn't score. That's a problem. Dwan Harris does
a lot of things well, but but yeah, it's it's the thing I've
watched. I watched players like Rob Dillingham light up the scoreboard at Kentucky and
Tyler Kohlik plays point at Marquette, and I think I cannot believe that these
people play the same position as Dewan Harris, just a very different way to
play basketball. Yeah, it is weird, Like, yeah, because on
a night where you scored eighty five, like offense is not exactly your your
first concern and loss, but yet like you're saying right, and he just
doesn't. I don't know, he just doesn't. He's not a threat,
he doesn't really make an impact. And I don't know what to do with
that guy. I mean, he does pass the ball extremely well, obviously,
like he's a very good passer. He sets up kJ and Hunter for
layups and dunks like all game long. That's great. There's a reason he
averages the amount of assists that he does. But yeah, I don't disagree
with Nick either. I think Nick his point that I do feel like Dewan
Harris is kind of leveled off this season. Where's where's the twenty three points
against Kentucky Dewan Harris? I want to see more of that guy. Where
is that guy? I'm gonna look at Dewan Harris's stats here. So on
the season now, Dewan Harris is averaging seven points and seven assists. His
field goal percentage is still the worst of the starter by a pretty decent clip.
Dewan Harris has not scored more than twelve points since the Kentucky game.
He's only scored more than ten points twice since the Kentucky game. That's a
issue we can talk about. Dewan Harris being great, and he's great at
most things, and I think he's a fine scorer when he attempts to.
But they need to want Harris to score more. I don't know if this
is the game to really go off about this, because they did score eighty
five. The offense wasn't the problem, but like man Dwan Harris, like
not scoring in the second half, that feels that just feels like a problem.
It may not be the reason they lost, but you look at it
and you say the point guard didn't score in the second half and they only
lost by a couple possessions, Like what could have been different if he had?
I don't know that's the way I look at it. Kansas is now
five and seven all time in Morgantown. We saw Bill get a winning record
in Stillwater, and here they were with a chance to get back to five
hundred and Morgantown and el Actually, like they kept saying on the broadcast that
West Virginia is getting their first win over Kansas since and then like a few
years ago, which didn't feel possible because we're so used to them losing up
there so much, and they made it sound like this never happens but they
also called kJ Adams kJ Allen a few times. They did nothing, nothing
but the best from an ESPN plus production. I was stunned if they messed
that up. Are we being naive for believing that Kansas would win into the
water? I saw that on the schedule that these games were back to back,
and you just knew I got something stupid's happening in one of those games
and been right all the time. I hate back to back road games.
Okay, let's wrap up with kJ Adams, who was quietly really good.
He is a dunk machine who can pass really well. We saw him get
the offense going in the second half when it came out cold with a couple
of big dunks. He finished with eleven points, four rebounds, and three
assists. I thought kJ should have got the ball more. My first thought
without he scored more than I thought. I didn't know he got to eleven.
My first thought after the game was, I don't feel like he touched
it enough. What was it? What did he shoot? He could have
taken more than like six shots. Uh, yeah, I should have put
that in there. Let me look four for six, yeah, four for
six. If if McCuller and Mcculler's fine. I guess if Furfy's gonna shoot
twelve times, kj's gotta shoot more than six. Yeah, especially on a
night where he's dunking everything. Yes, Like I thought that more of an
effort should have been made. And also West Virginia was really swarming Hunter Dickinson,
like you, I'm sure kJ that the opportunities to get kJ open more
against a depleted defense. I think that this may have been a game to
try that Hunter goes out by the perimeter a little more and kJ opens up
inside. That's that that was disappointing. I thought kJ could have done more,
but he still was productive in the in the in the time he actually
got the ball. Yeah, And I do think that's another another weird thing
that I think Kansas really actually only has two players that can actually create anything
for themselves offensively, and that's Hunter Dickinson and Kevin McCuller. KIJ is a
really good offensive weapon, but he is not going to create his own shot
very often. He can't a little bit, but he just doesn't very much.
Dwan Harris has proven that he refuses to do that very much. And
Johnny Furfey, well, I think very strongly will be able to do that
one day. Is not gonna be that guy right now that can create his
own bucket. So that's kind of a weird dynamic to only have two guys
on the entire team that can actually do that at all. Well, and
it's like, yeah, it's it's like they feel like they're so close.
They have everything on paper that says they should be dynamite. I still think
they might be. It's just maybe a couple of weird losses. They have
two elite National Player of the Year candidates. They have a point guard that's
great at getting them the ball. They have an athletic zion junior who dunks
everything. All you gotta do is pass in the basketball within a couple of
feet of the rim. They have a bench that has a couple of guys
that have been great three point shooters in their careers, and a young freshman
that looks like he's gonna play in the NBA one day. You have so
much on this roster that screams the pieces are there, they just haven't perfectly
fit together. I don't know. I think it's a pretty good assessment of
it. Yeah, and it's a little bit eighteen nineteen ish to an extent,
not nearly what that was. But the eighteen nineteen team had a bunch
of guys before they started losing pieces, maybe just didn't live up to expectations.
That team also, yeah, lost Yudokaa injury. I mean, I
think that's eighteen nine. Is not that I think eighteen nineteen is the best
comp to this team, but it's before they started losing pieces. Yeah,
but even then, they've already lost Arterio Morris to personal reasons. And then,
like el Marco Jackson is nicely fitting that Quentin Grimes role of just doesn't
really fit the system. They're asking, are you kidding me? You're You're
right on the comp But I would trade el Marco Jackson for Quentin Grimes right
now. Oh so sure, Grimes at least would make some threesometimes, Grimes
average nine points a game like that would be really welcomed right now. And
yeah, that team also the last time Kansas was preseason ranked one, which
was kind of a disappointment in the grand scheme of things. And Hunter Dickinson
is kind of the better version of Ditrich Lawson. Yeah, yeah, honestly,
there's some comparisons there. Now, this team's still very healthy. They
have a lot more experience at winning the big games than that one did.
I have a feeling you are going to see them catch fire and have a
really good stretch. You don't want to see them peak too early, right
if they were just crap. They're just crushing everybody right now. It may
lead to more questions because we've seen those Kansas teams peak early and then get
like the twenty one team was great around this time and then it started to
go downhill after that. So I don't I'm not losing hope at all about
this team. I think that they have all the pieces. I know,
the schedule's brutal. I don't care what the record is. I don't care
where they finish in the standings. They have the pieces to make a march
run. They just can't bury themselves and they can't screw themselves out of getting
ahih see because they keep losing to the crappy teams in this league. Who
and by the way, also crappy teams in this league is very different than
a crappy team in most leagues. Yeah, West Virginia is still not that
bad in comparison to a lot of teams at the bottom of other conferences.
West Virginia would be a top half of the ACC team. And I'm dead
serious. I think you're one hundred percent right, which is insane, Like
Duke loss to Pitt. And I know this sounds kind of stupid because Pitt
crushed West Virginia. But Pitt is not better than West Virginia or they won't
be at the end of the year. Pitt might be, but most of
the teams, like, are you gonna let me straight in the face and
tell me like wake Forest is better than West Virginia, or like, hey,
wake Forest beat Louisville by a lot yesterday, sir, well that's louis
I could probably find a bunch of dudes in Johnson County that could give Louisville
a run. Yeah, just don't ask Detroit Mercy. Final stats in this
game fifty three percent from the floor. That should be good enough to win
every time. Second. That also happening against UCF, where they shot better
than fifty percent from the floor and lost thirty percent from three and seventy eight
percent of the line. They continue to be a good free throw shooting team
minus the front ends of one on ones that they miss a couple of every
time they lose a stinker on the road. That's a that's a spill self
staple there. Final takeaways. I am frustrated and annoyed about it. I
don't think it poses a lot of long term head scratchers, and I think
had they find a way to win that UCF game, we're just looking at
this thinking, huh, that stinks, but that won't happen again. Yeah,
that's pretty much my sentiment exactly. A very strange loss that you would
hundred percent want back, but I don't think actually has that many implications moving
forward. Yep, I agree, very good loss, but hopefully you move
forward and stop dropping loss dropping games too, Teams that you should or are
favored by by ten points, like was I the only one? Or like
that that just felt more annoying. You guys were more annoyed watching that in
the second half than most games. Right, There's just something about it that
just got on your nerves. Yeah. I mean I don't get annoyed by
Kansas basketball games anymore, but yes, if I did, yes, this
would be a very annoying one to watch. I sense that from Nick over
text too. It was like you're you're normally very levelheaded, but which is
like, this is getting on my nerves because this shouldn't be happening. Yeah,
so yeah, flush it, and we'll see how they respond against a
better than this Cincinnati team Big twelve games, which was full of carnage and
had futility records all over the place, beginning with a game that's very near
and dear to my heart, and that is Texas seventy five, number nine,
Baylor got seventy three. Baylor and Kansas going through some similar stuff right
now. Baylor looked like they had just found a way to maybe rescue themselves
when Jalen Bridges had a game tying three with five seconds left. But then
it was Tyree's Hunter who went the length of the court and made a buzzer
beating layup as time expired to get the Long Horns a home win. It
was a very entertaining game, really good offensive first half, defense tightened up
in the second half, and it came down to the very end. However,
there is one stain on this game, and it is one absolute piece
of ass, one complete total of a human being that should not get to
celebrate this win. But oh boy, did he and that is certified bitch
boy. I don't know if I can say that, but you know what,
We're just gonna go for it. Rodney Terry, who said after UCF
necessarily reflect the co hosts, well, Rodney Terry, Harry Potter glasses and
all said UCF shouldn't be jumping up and down after that. Yeah, you
see the Harry Potter glasses on Rodney Terry, I said, Terry Potter.
Oh, Terry Potter, I like Harry Rodney Terry Potter who is here who
said UCF is classless. We expect to win. We don't jump up and
down because of games we win. Well, then guess what he did,
bouncing up and down like he got the star power up on Mario Bros.
Whenever the his game winning layup happened. What an absolute Nope, can't say
that that in the notes. It's not a nice thing, but it's what
Rodney Terry is. It's a mean thing, but he is. Screw him
and screw his long horns and screw horns up. Hunter scored twenty one points.
Yeah, I definitely concur with that last part. Hunter scored twenty one
to Baylor's Dakobe Walter scored twenty two. What do we make of the Bears?
My wife just peeked in the room and looked at me, like,
are you okay? Don't don't, don't have a heart attack in here,
like like it's apparently being quite loud talking about certified. Well, yeah,
that I do think Rodney Terry is not not a very good coach and a
weird guy. But I think the Bears he'll be fire. He'll be fine
year. So yeah, probably the end of this year. Yeah, at
this point, I think Baylor is really flawed. Baylor got twenty two from
star freshman Jakobe Walters. See, it's not that hard to get a McDonald's
all American to play with. Oh, I just wanted to make an el
Marco Jackson joke. But yeah, Baylor is pretty flawed compared to what they
normally are. But everybody in this conference is so true. Who's how many
how many losses? Is the team that wins this league gonna have? But
we're gonna have like a four way tie at eleven and seven. It won't
be that bad, but I could I could definitely see at this point.
Last show, I said it'd be fourteen and four. That wins the league.
I'm definitely leaning more toward thirteen and five. Yeah, I think Kansas
will get it going, and then I think you will see either Baylor or
Houston be right there with him until the end. I think one of those
teams will fall a bit and go like eleven and seven, if not ten
and eight, and I think that the other one will be challenging Kansas to
the very last game. I don't know. Texas Tech has the easiest schedule,
but we're not acting like we trust them right or talk about yeah case
stay trck there too. As of right now, though, this team gonna
play Kansas next. Lost another heartbreaker number fifteen Oklahoma sixty nine, Cincinnati sixty
five. The Sooner score sixty nine points. Land and tell me about the
Porter Mosers group? Who is? They bounced back nicely from their crappy week
last week. Yeah, a nice road win for the Sooners. They held
Cincinnati to thirty eight percent from the floor in just twenty seven percent from three,
But that doesn't matter because three point defense doesn't exist. Who here is
excited to watch them go for double digit or for them to double those percentage
On Monday in Allen Fieldhouse in front of a sad Travis Kelcey. Maybe I
don't know. I don't think you. We don't know. Yeah, sixteen
points from Javan mc holm. Somebody on Twitter said that these are the games
that Oklahoma lost in Porter Moser's first two years. I was still not a
huge fan of Moser, but I do think that is true. He does
have this team at least playing better than he has had them in his past
couple seasons. I don't think they have the bigs to be able to win
enough big twelve games to be a player at the end of the year.
I think that's gonna do them in. We saw that at Allen field House.
Sam godwins your starting power forward, good luck in this league. Won
against Cincinnati, is gonna win against the other ones? I don't think so.
Number twenty four Iowa State seventy three, Number nineteen TCU seventy two,
Nick, you called this game correctly, so you earned the right to tell
me about it. Yeah, the final score is misleading because I was stay
led by eighteen and a half time into by twelve with the final Teamy time
out. They led by four at the very end before Hail Mary three went
down, making the final a one point score, but Iowa State dominated the
game, forcing TCU in an amazing twenty seven turnovers, which is the most
in a Big twelve game. Twenty points from Tshawn Gilbert. It was getting
an extended role with taman Lipsei out, however, Jamie Dixon, of you,
Jamie Dixon, Yeah, this is the TCU game. Every time we
start to drink the kool aid a little bit, he goes out and coaches
them to a twenty seven turnover performance against the Cyclones. I didn't watch this
game very much, but every time I looked at the TV, tc was
yeating the ball into the third row of the student section. Like it just
it just made no sense what they were doing. I mean, how many
possessions did they have? They might have literally been doing that like one out
of every three. Yeah, it was a pretty up tempoed game, but
still as up tempo is it gonna be with all these turnovers. The horn
Frogs really disappointing week for them. They lost two games by a combined three
points I think, or maybe they lost in cincinn eight by four, so
they'd be five. I don't know. Iowa State controlled them though in this
game, and the Cyclones look like they are that every year we say,
are they what they always are? Iowa State is exactly who they always are,
which is they are a good team. They are really good at home,
and they're feisty as it gets on the road. They're not gonna win
a lot of road games. But TJ. Alzoberger doesn't have the most talented
teams. But wow, can that man coach? It doesn't matter who you
give him on his roster. They will find ways to play anybody within a
few possessions. Yeah, no, I aloud stated I think is exactly that
same team, which I feel like there's a lot of that in the big
twelve of the season, Like more teams than not are exactly this. Yeah,
there's like everybody but Kansas, Houston and maybe Baylor is this. Yeah,
except for Oloma Stiff and Western Oklahoma State are worse. Hey, there's
a lot of teams that can coach. So those three teams they would not
have two conference losses. Am I right? Yeah, They've played the three
worst teams on the road in the conference and they have a losing record.
Number twenty five Texas Tech eighty five, Number twenty BYU seventy eight. This
is your This is one thing we got right where we talked about BYU not
used to these sort of atmospheres because they had an eighteen point or a sixteen
point lead at the half and blew it. Lubbock looked like it was on
fire down the stretch thirty two points from Pop Isaacs who is still playing.
And just like Terren Shannon and yay I like sports, am I right?
Texas Tech is tight for first place. They only play Kansas and Houston ones.
Are they a threat to win this conference? I don't think so.
Yeah, if do you? No? They got hammered by Houston the other
night. Like they feel like those Oklahoma State teams that finished like ten and
eight or nine and nine, but go oz and six against the best four
teams and are right there on the bubble at the end of the year.
Yeah, that's probably true. They're solid that they're a little better than I
thought. I think they'd be probably a they are better than I thought half
of the league team, but they are better than we thought, especially with
a new coach, which it feels like they have one a new guy every
other year. Lo Land, the the dial stops on you to read about
this. This will be fun number five Houston fifty seven, Central Florida forty
two, forty two, And that is basketball, folks, and not I
want. I bet Houston UCF have scored more in a football game before knowing
those two schools, oh for sure. Yeah, Houston, they're pretty boring,
but they are pretty good. They only scored fifty seven points on thirty
five percent shooting, which is gross. Sixteen of those points came from LJ.
Cryer. We don't even talk about that anymore. This is definitely more
about the team they played than who they are specifically. The final score even
gives UCF more credit than they deserve. The Knights who had I don't know
what. I don't know what I was trying to write there. I think
I was trying to say how many points they had at a certain mark,
because that final score of forty two makes it sound a little better than it
was. Let me go research that. Okay, Well, they shut sixteen
percent from the floor. That's seven forty four, the worst shooting percentage in
any Big twelve game ever. Ever, a few more UCS stats here,
three for twenty three from two from Inside the Yark that's thirteen percent. They
started zero of nineteen from two. They couldn't make the layup. Took them
twenty eight minutes to make a two point basket. That's the second half for
those keeping count. So the stat that I was trying to get in there
and I just forgot to reasearch it. You see, have had twenty points
with nine minutes left in the game. So they Houston, Houston just told
Hughston just gave up and let him score a little bit. They scored more
points in the final nine minutes than they did in the first thirty one.
Twenty points in thirty one minutes. I've never seen that impossible. Seven for
forty four. Boy guys. I can't wait until Kansas gets to play them.
I mean, that should be a win, right, Gross, it
wasn't being told it wasn't which one was worse? You see a f for
West Virginia, like, which one will we remember as worse? I think
we'll probably think it is worse. West Virginia has at least a team that's
been good. Central Florida feels gross. I don't know. West Virginia might
be worse than Central Florida, though, I don't know if they are right
now, I don't think they will be at the end of the year.
And know that is not my bias showing and pleading to for them to look
better. Kansas State seventy, Oklahoma State sixty six. Nick, you talk,
I sin storm or don't even have it on the board. I don't
know. If I have it on the board, I'll figure it out.
Yeah, you feel the tang gets The Cowboys led for most of the second
half, but they blew the lead for a good in the final minute as
Kansas State got twenty three points from Arthur Koloma I lead into a four and
one start. Are the Cats gonna be a contender? I'm drinking as much
Tang as you got. I think they're good. I think at least I
think Tang is good. I think he's very good. K State will not
finish top two in the league, but I think they are better. And
I am a huge drum Tang fan. I I see. I think Texas
Tech's better than k State. I think Cincinnati's better than K State. I
think Oklahoma's better than K State. I maybe I I oh, yeah,
yeah, let me see K State's schedule here coming up, because that's gonna
you know, they beat Baylor at home, but it took Baylor just completely
farting that game away. Kansas State's next five games, how many wins are
in here? Wow? This is brutal. Okay, Actually, I'm gonna
read their next eight games. Okay, their next eight games. You're gonna
tell me how many wins are here? At Iowa State at Houston, versus
Oklahoma at Oklahoma State, versus Kansas at by U, versus TCU at Texas
how many winnings. I think they're lucky to get to three four. Yeah,
if they go four and four in that stretch, then that will put
them with five games left at eight and five, and that will be a
very impressive basketball team in this conference. I don't think there's I don't think
there's a chance they win four, No chance, but we have different opinions
in cases. I think they get there. Big twelve standings at the top
are said fighting tanks, Kansas State in Texas Tech. They are four and
one, tied for third, Baylor, KU, Iowa State, Oklahoma,
and Houston are all three and two, and in a conglomerate of eight ranked
teams, TCU, b y U, Cincinnati UCF, Texas and West Virginia
are all for two and three, and then in a full two games by
themselves in the last are the walking corpse of Mike Pointon and his Oklahoma State
Cowboys. They had a chance to win, they fell apart ohero and five
in conference play. Other games, well Land, and you had and lead
us off because I'm gonna go see if anything happened today that I need to
add to this. Fair enough, It was another great outing for the fighting
Zach Eaties of Purdue and Zach Eidies specifically is he had his third straight thirty
point game in number two purdues eighty four to seventy defeat of the Cyclones.
That they're not the Cyclones, they're the Hawkeyes other boring eyes. Oh,
you would just make so many people up there, man. The biggest jowns
are in the league this year. Number eleven Wisconsin hung ninety one on Indiana
in a Friday night win. And then there's Illinois who played Terren Shannon and
they gave him a standing ovation, which is pretty gross. He scored sixteen.
Yeah, they were like, we don't know if he's gonna play or
not. And he was in the game two minutes and twenty six seconds.
I think it was into the into the night. You better be right,
Illinois, You better be right, Nick to Duke dah Yeah. In then
funny news number seven, Duke loss at home to a garbage Pittsburgh team despite
shooting twelve more free throws in eighty to seventy six. Well, is nobody
talking about how louds you have a job? John Shire is than with the
preseason top two team. Well, but he's got the brotherhood and the brotherhood
is the brotherhood, and if you believe in the brotherhood, then you can
be part of the brotherhood. And the brotherhood sounds like a cult. We
all at the stay, Yeah it's Duke. Have you seen like just read
their their motto. That's probably all you need to find out how cold it
is. Uh. One thing we all said at the very start was that
John Shire is in over his head. And that's not to say that he
won't eventually get there, because wow, if he can't with the resources that
he's been given, I don't know how he's ever going to succeed. But
he's done a pretty lousy job through a year and a half as the Duke
coach. This team's very talented. Yes, this team's very talented, and
yes it was awesome. Pitt didn't just win that game, they flaunted it.
A couple of their guys got on the scorers table and were yelling at
the student section. Good. I hope they told him to suck a d
just barely. Number one. Yukon survived at Villanova sixty six to sixty five
behind twenty five points from Tristan Newton. The Huskies are seventeen to two on
the season and lead the Big East. Are they the best team in the
country. No, their name is not Perdue. Really, team that has
national championship experience, team slash coach that's never made the Final four. I'll
take the former every time. Yes, Yukon's number one. I like they
have the best longest the long this game of the day. It took place
in New Jersey. It's just like I'm driving this thing. I'm tired of
your nonsense. Get out of my way. Number Naty Creighton took down Seaton
Hall in ninety seven to ninety four in triple overtime. Ryan Talkbrinner had twenty
eight points. It took Locke Prinner as what you wrote is that that I
right. That just feels like that's just not correct. I wonder if it
auto corrected because there's no squiggly line under It took Seaton Hall three overtime to
score just three more points in West Virginia. That's so disappointing. Creighton's pretty
good. They're gonna be the underseated team because of their record that no one
wants to play. I think that Creighton is the are that the second best
team in the Big East? Is it Ukon then Creighton? Somebody else?
I know that's pretty good. Marquette maybe maybe yeah, Marquette's okay, Marquette
should be better than they are. Everybody should be better than they are.
Maybe everybody else is just more balanced. I don't know. Number twelve Arizona
almost brought home the title of the most embarrassing loss of the day. They
trailed a terrible UCLA team by nineteen points at home before rallying back and beating
the Bruins seventy seven to seventy one. That is something that Kansas that matches
Kansas's record most points at home are flipped around to overcome to whatever. You
know what I'm trying to say. It's a lot of points to come back
and win. Palay Larson scored twenty two points for the Wildcats, who seem
pretty good but they're not really being tested much. The refs made things all
about themselves by teeing up Mick Cronin in a one position game with a couple
of minutes left. Never seen the rest do that. In the SEC number
thirteen, Auburn destroyed mega fraud Chris Beard and Mega fraud number twenty two Ole
Miss, who's ranked for reasons we cannot explain fifty nine. All sixteen of
the Tigers wins this year have come by double digits. Also in number eight,
Kentucky hung one oh five on Auga and our sixth Tennessee impressively blew out
Alabama by twenty Are these teams final four threats? Nick? Uh? I
think Auburn is. I definitely think Auburn is a good team. They only
have two losses, so I Kentucky it's John Klipari, so Tennessee's Rick Barnes.
So yeah, I can't say with confidence. Just their pure quality,
yeah, I think they. I think their talent level suggests. Yes,
it's also the the SEC is Bunns. Yeah, it's not good to have
those three buns. Auburn is gonna get tested this week. They have at
Mississippi State, who we just saw takedown was a Tennessee I think the other
day, and then they have at Alabama, which is a brutal rivalry game.
I may have gotten those backwards, but I know those are their next
two games. They do go at Mega Fraud Chris Beard coming up, and
then they have Kentucky coming in for a few weeks, so they do have
that. They're gonna Calvin Johnson who's Megatron, and you have Chris Bard,
who's Mega Fraud. I like it, Mega Fraud who is also a really
bad human being but still got a job because yay. I think all three
of them are Final Four threats. Yeah, Tennessee won't get there because their
coach is allergic to winning many tournament games, and Kentucky does something stupid every
other year. But yeah, I think they're all really good. I think
you could argue they're probably three of the best ten teams in the country.
Then there's Louisville, who lost by twenty five. They are not one of
the best teams in the country. Louisville is to Wake Forest I'm pretty sure
officially this is the first time wake Forest has ever beat any team by twenty
five points. I have to check the record books on that, but there's
no way they've done that. They are one in six in acc play.
The win was on the road at Miami. Is there an oof drop?
I need to I don't have time to look that up now. Is it
this? Yeah, that's my Louisville drop. Whenever you lose to wake Forest.
At least they're not Detroit Mercy, who gets many because they've lost twenty
times in twenty games. This year. They lost one hundred and five to
sixty four at home to Youngstown State, not Youngtown, Young's Town State holds
man. Hey, yeah, actual Penguins could beat Detroit Mercy Hospital. I
think, right? Are they just a bunch of nurses and doctors playing in
their spare time. What's their nickname, the Titans? I think yeah,
they are the k You played them in the tournament in the year they made
it to the championship, I think, yeah. The fifteen seed. I'm
assuming they're not going to be a fifteen seed this year. Rank teams loosens
the last show number three, Our old buddy Bill lost to West Virginia.
That's not what that's what it actually said. No, that's not always it's
not necessarily Ryan. How about you read it? Okay, Well, you
know that's a Daniel Cunningham quote, right, Yeah, Actually it does sound
that's the Daniel. That's the Daniel Cunningham. That is something Daniel would say.
Yeah, it definitely is, and it's accurate in this case. No,
Daniel's probably matured a little bit unlike me. Fair enough, a team
who doesn't have a mature coach. Number seven, dude, john Shire Socks.
They lost the pit. Number nine Baylor lost to Rodney Terry gleefully skipping
around like a little girl that just saw her presence from Santa Claus for the
first time a few days after he was told another team, you don't do
that. Number ten Memphis, well, they lost again, shocking to Tulane.
Number nineteen TCU they lost again, Dio State. This whole list is
just Big twelve teams. Number twenty b YU lost again to Texas Tech number
twenty two, a team that was a guy that was formally I just wanted
to say, a guy that was formerly a Big twelve Yeah, yeah,
person also formally arrestless, a big twelve person. Gotta love those big twelve
persons. There's there's not enough of them because Rodney Terry is because won't be
one for long. All Chris Beard had to do is not hit his wife,
and we wouldn't have to do with Rodney Terry Potter's glasses and his stupid
race. I like it. Yeah, I wish that liking Harry Potter,
a bunch of what do they call death theaters or whatever would like take him
away and take him to Rodney Terry's friends with coach km uh. They they
definitely would would share Starbucks lattes together, wouldn't they. They're two peas in
a pod, those two boobs, except for one's a great coach and one
is not. That's true, ask Rock Shock Blog. This is always is
a children scream sound. This is this is the Knick's favorite part of the
show. In case you're you're new to this show, which you're not,
because nobody knew clicks on these anymore. Oh, I haven't had any questions
about what color pants and Rodney Terry's were in this season, and we might
now now that Rodney Terry Potter is a complete ass wipe at k voguey please,
Uh, what unexpected Big twelve dark Horse has staying power? Oh,
that's that's a nick question. You're that realignment person. Uh. I think
it's just which which team that we didn't think much of was just gonna be
good this year. Oh, it's not staying power from like a a Big
twelve realignment thing. Uh, the answer is Texas Tech. Wow, Tampa
just did an unbelievable thing Land And I'm sorry you're way behind, but that
was beautiful. Switched. You're about to see Tampa do something that nobody that's
ever worn a Chief's jersey has ever done. For Patrick Mahomes, he's catching
a ball. Yeah, it's not dropping a ball, and it's making an
incredible catch. Albeit, the answer is Texas Tech and maybe KSE State.
You have a moderate amount of faith in case state at this point, even
if it's unfounded. So I'll say them at J two Wills, do you
have a higher vertical leap than Hunter Dickinson? Yeah? Maybe maybe. What
do you think his vertical actually is two foot? I'm sure he has a
good vertical. I don't know. I don't know. He's also seven to
so it like even if he had. It's like, how the smaller you
are the same amount of weight you gain. The more it looks like it
like his vertical could be Andrew Wiggins esque and it wouldn't be as a parent
as it is for Andrew Wiggins because he's not, say seven to two.
Why can't Mike Evans as it's white out? What did you say, why
can't mahomes have Mike Evans? Right? Yeah, just so you just saw
the play, just an insane catch a few minutes ago. But yeah,
at Cooper Reeves ten. Is this team going to lose to a fourteen seed
in March? We're doing great on the Rational Express today. Uh No,
but they might lose with six seed? Call your shot? What seed is
Kansas one through? They're one or two at Preston's skirt sick. I guess
I get that this is viewed as a bad loss right now, But how
bad do we think this loss will be at the end of the year.
West Virginia was six and eleven interne in the game, but that's with battle
Kirkkrese at eight cock a cock out most of the season. Also, Jesse
Edwards coming back soon. Hey, that's exactly what I said earlier, great
minds think alike, what do you guys think it might? It might honestly
be a lot like the TCU loss in twenty twenty when or twenty twenty two
when they got not They didn't get blown out in this game. But it's
like one of those head scratchers is like, how do you lose this game?
And I don't know. I think it might be a turning point.
Maybe I believe that Nick will be correct, and I believe that I believe
that what will happen is Kansas will have a better than expected February because their
January was worse than expected most of the time. It's how it works when
Bill Selp is your coach. What say you landon? Probably yah, I
don't think this loss will be the rea Like if Kansas does struggle late in
the season, it will not be because of this loss. Like this loss
will not really affect them later in the year. Yes, that's completely correct.
At k tweets and News with the best question we've ever gotten, what
would it be like to not be insanely emotionally invested in a bunch of college
kids and then not let it control your weekend when it yes, Yeah,
Landon's done a pretty much job. And who was the most emotionally invested of
the three of us at one point? Yeah, that is also true,
land pretty sweet. Landon prayed for Bill self to call the right plays for
Udoka as a bouquet at one point. And now they lose to West Virginia.
You're like, eh, okay next, Yeah, the losses are more
interesting than the wins. Uh, they definitely are more interesting than the wins.
Yeah. At show me Hawk with two questions here hearing some rumors at
Big Twelve commissioner Brett Yormark could expand the conference game schedule from eighteen to twenty,
with the potential of two extra Big Twelve games and a sixteen team conference.
How does that affect KU's chances of winning the Big Twelve in future years?
It helps them. The more games that they play, the more you'll
see the best team separate. Yeah. It does also create more unbalanced though,
And so if there's another really good team with unbound slate, that will
be harder because you'll have less chance to directly combat and unbalanced slate. Yeah,
and the unbalanced schedule sucks, and Kansas is always going to have a
more hard, unbalanced schedule than other teams because they're going to draw more premier
matchups, like they're probably getting multiple games against the Houston's and the Baylors,
whereas we talked about Texas Tech not as much. I agree, Nick,
do you want a twenty game schedule? It feels like that's the thing the
big leagues are doing. The Big Ten and the ACC already do it or
at PAC twelve, I think though, Yeah, I mean I don't need
to see Kansas play Yale in right, Yeah, you give him k C
every season. So yeah, as long as you're replacing those and we don't
lose you know, the Indiana non conference games to get another Kansas UCF return
game, I'm that's that's true. Another one here, how warm is Brandon
Schneider's seat as the coach of the KU women's team. They are currently nine
and nine, are probably gonna miss the tournament. Yeah, that's been a
big step back the KU women's team. They played pretty well at k State
the other day, didn't win, but they played them pretty close. But
the women's team being nine to nine after the success they've had is pretty surprising.
Despite the win over Baylor, a few days ago. Yeah, I
think it's pretty warm. He's been there a long time too, so like
eventually several years at Dick Underscore Taser. Now, Wayne Kerry, you give
me credit, but it wasn't me that said it. It says Ryan was
shockingly impressive pulling Fantasy Island and the plane to plane out of thin air last
show. That wasn't me, that was you, land and you were the
one that knew Fantasy Island. The guy's name is Tattoo, which is why
Nick refused to utter Narry a syllable on the subjects. So, yes,
Landon. I know you're not on Twitter, but I will DM for the
request. Mister Wayne Kerr your Venmo account and you will get He says ten
dollars slash three percent of a bag of groceries. I wish that was three
percent of a bag of grocery. Wayne, you are the man, He
also says Wayne. Yes, Wayne says, this guy Rocco owes me twenty
six units and I'm done chasing him. You guys know where I can get
a pair of those concrete boots Furfey has been wearing on Defense. Also,
you guys know Ozzie's referred to us as seppos as in septic tank, septic
tanks yanks. Not very nice, Wayne, You are one of one.
Landon is our resident Aussie on this show. You guys have even more in
common than you think. I had no idea that was true, that you
even taught the resident Australian something. Those concrete boots Furfy has been wearing on
defense, Yeah, those are those are called cinder blocks, according to most
of my Twitter accounts. Disappointing. He'll get there. He's a young guy.
A couple more here, as Nick is like, no, slow down,
please, I like you so much at Cooper Reeves. Then, if
you had to place one Chiefs player on the KU basketball roster, let's start
with Tony to get him off the team forget. However, however, however,
however, you can't say, he says. You can't just say Parker
Brown to create the best team because you also have to swap a Jayhawks player
onto the Chiefs roster, so you want to keep it balanced. I mean,
I feel like Hunter Dickinson out wide out would be pretty freaking nice.
Gimme Kevin mccullar as a wide out. But then you're making k you really
bad Uh, and give me. I don't know Chris Jones as a center,
no one will have to do with that. There's a chance Patrick Mahomes
is the best basketball player on the Chiefs. He is, so that makes
it hard. I don't know, Like I'm trying to think, Yeah,
there's gotta be like someone who plays safety or corner, like like Trent McDuffie's
got to be a good two guard, right. Uh, he would probably
have more skill than a lot of guys. Or we could just do like
James Winchester for Jamari mccow and no one's gonna notice either way. That's good.
Just keep it. They're both pretty good. Let's just keep it the
way it is. I know it's not the fun answer, but but that's
I'd like to see Hunter Dickinson play wide out. It could not be worse
than what Mahomes is throwing to and then he'd like you think hundred. Dickinson
would get NFL crowds going like he gets uh college crowded. Gosh, if
Hunter Dickinson was an NFL player, he would be hated by thirty one fan
bases. Hunter Dickinson would be an elite NFL player and people would be like,
he's so soft, Nick, we wouldn't have to defend there at there
you go. All the reason are you just get screwy with it? You
make Hunter Dickinson play left tackle where he just reaches his arms out and no
one can get by him. He called for a How would that be different
than the current state of the offensive line? Sir at Cope fraud, Why
does self refuse to use his bench? The bench wasn't bad yesterday, and
we just decided to play nothing but the starters who look gassed until ten minutes
were gone in the second half. Good point, Timberlake didn't check in for
a long time in the second half, even whenever you had guys like Harris
that were giving you nothing. I also like el Marco Jackson in relief of
Harris as the point guard. Yeah, I did too. We're never getting
that. And last question here from at Elliott ruson h first off horns down,
cue the controversy. Oh it's Rodney Terry. He's got tears in his
eyes and he's here at my door for some reason. He's saying, yeah,
you don't do that, you don't do that. That's classic. He
calls us classless. He's not wrong, goods correct, Yes, I have
no class, but I also I don't need to have class because I have
a microphone, not a basketball job. And Elliott says, secondly, are
we going to start getting worried that this team is slightly inconsistent? Yes,
already there well West Virginias, Well, West Virginia constantly had five steph curries
out there. You should still win the game, Yes, you should.
The thing that I've seen talked about is Kansas clearly is playing up to their
competition. They get up for the top ten teams, They've controlled top ten
opponents throughout games, and then they've lost two of the worst three conference opponents
out there. They're playing up to their competition like that's that's what they kind
of have always done, but this year more than ever. Yeah, And
the reverse really is that they're playing down to their competition. And this is
These are the kind of things that I was a little bit worried about coming
into conference play. When you flirt around with Eastern Illinois and UMKC is well,
day twelve teams are gonna be able to make you pay for that kind
of outing, whereas Eastern Illinois isn't going to be able to and can't West
Virginia. Even though they're not having a good season. They have plenty of
talent out there that if you don't put them away, they can beat you.
And that's what happened. Anything to add to any ASCARCBS, No,
I just wanted to add that I was just spending this time calculating how much
of my life of spending during ASCARCB segments about thirty shows a season, seven
seasons, twenty minutes per session, it's about forty two hundred minutes total.
Forty two hundred minutes total divided by sixty is about seventy hours doing this segment.
Seventy hours doing the segment is about three full days of my life talking
about Rodney Terry's pants, whether we think KU is overrated, and whether we
think that I like women with tattoos or women who are white in very and
burying vanilla. That that's what I spent three days in my life doing.
Hey, I gave you a break from those questions today, sir. Even
though I thought that we could really enjoy talking about women with tattoos after what
our eyes had to look at all day on Saturday with Kansas. But I
guess I'll save it for the next show. Nick's like, yay, I
don't have to look at that those ugly a bombinations. Okay, okay,
fine, Just because you asked Landing on a scale of one to ten,
how much you like tattoos? Like seven? Nick, like three? Segment
always delivers. That's why we can't ever get rid of it. Cincinnati at
number three, Kansas, Well, oh you want to, I have it.
We can do it. Joel Embiid's gonna win the MVP again because he's
average thirty points per game. Meanwhile, is Kelly Ubrey got hit by another
car. Josh Jackson, Hey, I have that, And Josh Jackson was
y didn't now Josh Jackson's on rape charges right now, isn't he? Oh?
Really, you didn't know that. That's too bad. You didn't know
that. That was a pretty recent Let's see here. This article is from
October of twenty twenty three. He was accused of orchestrating a robbery, domestic
assault, and rape sweet the bag three. His attorney says, he emphatically
denies it. Thirty three charges, thirty different things. Yeah, well,
they emphatically deny all the charges, is what his attorney said. But something
that we cannot emphatically deny is that Kansas is going to plummet in the rankings.
We don't have those new numbers yet because we're recording on Sunday for Yeah,
let's see where they're at. Actually they are. They were eighteen on
Ken Palm whenever I saw that, So they fell five or six spots.
They are now fourteen in the net. They actually didn't go down as much
as I thought they would. Fair They are still to the number three Big
twelve. No, they're not BYU by the way, continuing their tradition.
They they have lost three of their last five games, and they have dropped
one spot after each one. They were at two, they went to three,
now to four, and now they're number five. That's weird. They're
pretty average. They are three and three in Quad one and nine to zero
in Quad four. Clearly a top five teen. I'll do it. Yeah,
that's that's all. It takes Cincinnati at probably number like six. Kansas.
Monday, January twenty second, at eight o'clock at night, Jayhawk's looking
to bounce back after a disappointing loss with the bear Cats. They are thirteen
and five overall, two and three in league play. Their wins are by
U and TCU, and they lost all of which were close to Baylor,
OU and Texas six eleven, two and forty pounds. Power forward Victor Lockin,
who is from Russia, is Cincinnati's best player. He averages fourteen points
and eight rebounds, which both lead the team, though he's been held to
a total twenty three points in his last three games. So here comes thirty
one. In the front court, Ruyan. The centers of the front court
seven foot whatever was Ben Dago who adds eight and eight and he plays more
while fouling less than a lot of seven footers we've seen. They also play
a six to eight wing Schimas Lucotius, who is your bonafid white guy of
the Game candidate. And he's got to be Lithuanian, Right, that's a
Lithuanian name. I thought it was Estonia, but you might be right.
Yeah, maybe the guy, maybe the guy from yesterday in the West Virginia
game was Estonia. Sorry, yeah, moving on in the recap or something,
the Bearcats backcourt and sees utilization from point guards Day Day Thomas and Gisel
James. Oh, that's your most names in the conference and wings John Newman,
not Malik Newman, and former Kentucky guard C. J. Frederick,
who is a team's best three point shooter at forty four. The result is
a very good passing team that leads in up tempo offense. Surely that's not
going to translate to anything against this Kansas team. C J. Frederick went,
oh and oh for five. I think when Kansas went to Roup a
couple of years ago. Guess what happens when he comes to the fog.
Guys, this is not gonna be good. Cincinnati's metrics are all over the
place. They are very good rebounding the ball, top ten rebounding team in
the country. They have a lot of size, ton of size. They
play fast, and they take care of the ball well, which is kind
of weird for a team that's got a lot of size. And they're excellent
at not fouling, which is also unusual for a team with a lot of
size. The weaknesses they're a mediocre three point shooting team. Free throw shooting
is very poor. They forced turnovers at a very low rate, which is
probably the best news for Kansas right now, and they commit an above average
amount themselves. Their numbers read like a team that has a very strong front
cord and a very mediocre backcourt. Tansas actually has a losing record against Cincinnati.
They're three to four. They've only played them once since nineteen sixty seven.
All four of KU's losses to the Bearcats occurred between nineteen forty nine and
nineteen sixty four, and in that one game within the last fifty years,
Kansas beat Cincinnati by seven in nineteen ninety six in an on cone game.
So, yeah, been a long time since these two teams have played,
and it was a long time before even their last time that they played,
Nick, What are you thinking here as KU hosts Cincinnati for the first time
in a very long time. Well, I'd probably give Taylor Swift better odds
to show up to the game then Cincinnati winning this game. I hope neither
happened. But I'm gonna say, Taylor Swift, are you Are you a
dad or a Chad Nick? Chad? Taylor Swift doesn't even have tattoos and
she's mid. But that's why she's mad, sir, because she doesn't have
tattoos. That's not true, she just not tried. Anyways, Kansas is
gonna win this game. Let me get give him eighty eighty to sixty seven.
Who cares Landon. I think Taylor Swift is attractive. I don't think
that she's the most attractive person on earth, but she's she's an attractive woman,
Right's I mean, like like she's she's all right celebrity. She's not
my type either. It's because she doesn't have arm sleeve tats. She did,
you wouldn't be able to keep Nick away from Allen Field House on Monday
night. I do not think they're gonna be there. It's one thing to
put Taylor Swift in a suite, it's another thing to put on section two,
row four on the to Cameron Indoor Stadium. That's true. He is
President of the United States President. So if the President of the United States
can sit with Secret Service in the front row at Cameron in door Grant and
that'll read, is the size of high school gymnasium a lot easier to secure
than it's sixteen thousand seed? Yeah, but I'm I think the President's a
little bit more important to protect than Taylor Swift. People disagree with that is
aunch a bunch of white, mentally ill eighteen year olds showing up and trying
to tackle Taylor Swift and give her hug or something. Wow, that's that's
so great. I love when Nick, like Nick will bite his tongue so
much on this show, and then you if you get the box open,
there's so much good stuff in there, like that was that was a thing
of beauty? Dude? Am I am? I wrong? Though? Like,
I'm not trying to stereotype the fan base because there's a lot of normal
white girls. Probably my my future wife probably is a Taylor Swift fan.
Every girl on planet Earth in America is pretty much Taylor Swift fan. Oh
yeah. There are some that dedicate their entire lives to carrying what Travis Kelsey
and Taylor Swift where and do and where they live. So I call him
Swift, isn't it. Yeah? I don't think you're wrong. I I
Taylor Swift. Was. I say that also as we're three guys. We're
three guys who are mid twenty three to twenty six years old, and we're
doing a podcast a bunch of a bunch of college age guys dribbling a ball
around on a court. So I mean, yes, we are. We're
the ones with actual illness. But there you go. See you get the
box open and it's good every time. Uh Lanta, And I think wins
seventy five sixty seven for the record. Yeah, that feels your question.
That feels about right. I was gonna ask you to pick the game.
I think Kansas wins. Yeah, something like seventy six to sixty six,
or it won't be a game that. Every year Kansas has a few games
that they happened, They win by ten, and then we completely forget everything
that happened in it. And this time next year, when I don't know
if I believe Nick, when the three of us are still doing the show
and they're going up to Cincinnati and we're gonna be like last year they won
by eight, We're gonna be like they did. I don't remember any thing
about that game. That's gonna be one of these games. Yeah, that's
a pretty good take. Definitely has Lions. The Lions have chained a piece
of paper to a seventy three year old fan, saying that she was a
loyal member. She was nine years old the last time the Lions won something
an NFL champions Hey, they need to put her in that. She needs
to be in that meme that says, I'm not letting Grandma out of the
cage so the Lions win another championship. That's that's what somebody did with Kadarius
Tony. Uh until he catches another pass after that that play in New England,
and he hasn't played a snap since because he has a severe case of
sucky ass itis, which they are calling on the injury report a hip injury
and that's why he has him played and no one needs it. Severe case
of he's basically already been cut already. Yeah, severe case of bad hip
hip injury means he isn't playing. That's the abbreviation. Yeah, I'm glad,
and I'm glad he's not. Because the Chiefs would have this game today,
would be in Kansas City if Kadarius Tony didn't play in the first one.
That's undeniably the case. Big twelve games. Texas at the ringing DRAWG
and a shift. So this is just what they are right now. Texas
at number fifteen. Oklahoma cos I say Texas wins, I don't think.
I don't think Oklahoma's very good. I hope that the fans give Rodney Terry
Texas. No. I don't think they are either. But I think they're
more talented. They have so many they have so much of them, so
many wins. Yeah, but I think they win, and I think they
win, and O you, I don't think. Oh, he's very good.
West Virginia at UCF. I will pick UCF by a lot. West
Virginia is gonna score sixty points at most. I will pick UF to win.
I'll take westerngin. I am, I am, I am more.
If you told me right now, Cincinnati or West Virginia, one of them
wins, I would bet on Cincinnati. I am so one hundred percent confident
West Virginia is gonna lay an absolute turd after that game yesterday. Yeah,
I think you're probably right. Number five Houston at number twenty, b YU.
The Cougars have been pretty Oh this is the Cougar Bowl, isn't it.
B YU has been pretty good at home. It's a tough environment.
I think that the the the I can't use the team names. Houston's luck
on the road continues. Give me BYU, give me, give me the
Redcubs. I'm gonna go with the home Cougs. There you go. There,
that's better than what Nick just wrote. But it is. It is
a It is a good old fashioned that and I just made a comment about
how buy you girls are attractive? Yeah, that's it. I will take
that school for two reasons. Number nineteen TCU at Oklahoma State. I mean,
eventually the Cowboys are gonna get somebody, but I don't see TCU losing
three in a row. I think Oklahoma State's really bad, so give me
the horn Frogs. I say that the TC's lost a couple back, I'm
gonna say TCU wins this game. Otherwise I would have picked Oklahoma State.
Oklahoma State's canna be over six, and then Kansas State at number twenty four
Iowa State. We're now in the process where some teams are getting buys I
think each I think there's two teams that don't play a week game every and
then that have that repeats itself seven times to balance out this long schedule.
So there's only five other big twelve games to pick. I will take Iowa
State to roll Kansas State at home. I've let the clone. I would
State wins other games. Number eight Kentucky at South Carolina, who actually has
a better record than the Cats, has not been great to trust Kentucky on
the road, but I'll do it here reluctantly. I won't. I'm picking
the game talks. Hey, I have a drop for that. I'm too
lazy to go find it, but glad to see Nick's back to his roots.
Number eleven, Wisconsin at hold on. Gonna need you guys to be
patient for just a second. Let me pull this up. Tell me your
pick. By the way, are you going with Wisconsin to win at?
None other than I will take Minnesota home. I'll go with them Minnesota,
I'll take there. I'll take whiskey. Speaking of so, that was an
a RCV from Cam Lipple who said, would twenty Joe Biden's beat one Andy
Reid in a basketball game? And boy, yea one Andy Reid would win
Landon. I don't know where he's at a bicycle Yeah, well, well,
well hold on, I'm on and I'm on it. I think that
the twenty Joe Biden's would win because, yeah, Joe Biden works out like
I think they say he does. Joe would be standing under the basket saying,
Joe over here, Joe ice cream, ice cream appear, and I
think he'd barely score ten points. I think Andy Reid would be I don't
think Andy Reid is a great athlete by any stretch. Landon really, uh
no, not really. I mean twenty pre pill against one person is pretty
great. I mean it doesn't matter, and you have twenty sisters probably way
to beat him. Andy Reid went to b YU, so it would be
Joe Biden at b YU. Yeah, that'd be fun. Number thirteen Auburn
takes the road and plays Alabama. Okay, Ken Palm, I'm gonna trust
you on this one. You say Alabama's better than their record indicates, Fine,
they beat Auburn. I agree. This is a Auburn's gonna lose a
game. They've been hot, but they're gonna lose to no governed by twenty
Landon says f you, Ken Palm. And number fourteen fighting Terrence Shannon Junior
is at Northwestern Northwestern because Carlink Illinois wins on the road with Shannon, I
think they're the second best team in the Big Ten. I mean it depends
on which school with abuse allegations you want to choose. Probably Northwestern. I'll
take shoes up there. Yeah, basically all of the yeah people up there
apparently have nothing better to do than bad things because it's cold. As someone
who used to live up there, it's true there's a lot to do,
but it's a good thing you don't live there anymore because now you do have
something to do twice a week, which is this podcast. We'll be back
here later in the week to talk about Kansas and uh who's next? I
never up in that? Is it Iowa? God? Is it at Iowa
State? That's the kind of up there. And then they got Houston.
Get wait for them to lose at Iowa State and then lose to Baltimore.
It's gonna be great. We can never Yeah, now that one, they're
probably gonna get beat by the Bills. Anyways, we'll see and that sounds
like fun. This is inside the Paint on a Rock Chalk blog. I'm
unenthused. Uh no, not really. I mean twenty with hands that much.
The grill that canarius Tony has the diamond plated grill. No, I
don't like tattoos, so I can't like never, never mind, I'll give
you that one. I don't I never got the grill thing, like,
I've never really gotten that. But you know, to each their own,
I guess to each their own we'll see you later in the week. Behavior
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