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is Mike Mannaughty today's episode PS fives are slimming down and smoke. Who where
there's fire, there might be smoke. But first, Mike, how are
you doing? Pretty good? I've assembled this gamer shelf, which I guess
it's just a bookshelf right but it has mom My Game Cuban original Xbox games
on it right now, it's some other fun things. So nice to finally
put that thing together and have that behind me. There you go. Yeah,
you show the people. Trying to show the people, but I click
on you and then it moves me, so my camera for a second.
Sorry, Uh, there you go? But um yeah, it's I had
like just stacks of these games before, so it's nice to finally have these
on a shelf. That's that's something very happy for you. I um,
I want to like keep getting I want to keep fixing up my place.
I did actually because it was July fourth, and apparently that's the big like
furniture sale weekend thing. I did buy a recliner for my my gaming zone,
my gaming area. Oh so that'll be here and probably like next week.
And I'm very excited about it because that I got like a little hammocky
like chair thing and it's not very comfortable the kids sitting in it. It's
fine for them, but I want to move that over here because I didn't
have it when you it's not good for the adult push exactly. You when
when you guys were over, when you and Dan came over to watch Commando,
I had the couch. I brought the couch over here and that was
great. I thought about leaving it, but it's like that couch needs to
be in the other room for when like Grandma's over and needs a place to
see. Yeah, that's fine, so you know, ask you for you
guys. I always hate being the middle couch person. I don't know what
to do with my arms, so I was just crossing them the entire time.
You can watch that video, just kind of like crossing my arms of
fidgetings. I don't know what to do with my arms when I'm the middle
couch person cut them off. We can use some things, yeah, pie,
Yeah, become Jack's. Yeah, become Jack's. Just that would be
kind of convenient if you could just like take your arms off at night and
go to sleep. Yeah, they are a pain in the butt these days
at beutty by time. Yeah, they're always fung asleep like I came in
sleep on my one side anymore. Like it's kind of like falls asleep or
hurts, probably being an overweight issue kind of thing. But still, yeah,
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I think I will do that sometime. I'm deally gonna do it by this
weekend. I might just like pull the trigger on it and do it out
of nowhere. So keep an eye on the discord if you really want to
participate sometimes. Yeah, it's just kind of I'm just kind of fitting in
where where I can. Might I think I also might do this one live
to both YouTube and Twitch. But if you are you can only ask a
question if you're if you're in the private channels, if you are podcast producers,
this might be a special one. We do live the riff raff out.
We're gonna keep the riff raff route out. That's exactly That's our big
thing here is we just don't we really hate riffing half Yeah, yeah,
that's exactly what it is. Uh, mikes, some stuff happened this week.
It's it is still like technically a short week. It's like a holiday
week, so I think a lot of people have taken it off in the
video game industry. I was putting together the news for gamess Mornings today and
there wasn't a lot happening, but there are some headlines that I'd like to
read. You. Are you ready for this week's big topics? Mikey ready?
The PS five Slim is expected later this year by everyone, including Microsoft,
who in their FTC file ins We're like, hey, we expect the
PS five Slim to launch for four hundred dollars later this year. That thing
probably is real, probably is happening. I think it just kind of makes
a lot of sense that we would get a Slim by now. The good
news for mister Michael Manati is apparently it is going to keep mostly the same
design of the PS five, just be actually smaller. How does that make
you feel good? And I hope, I hope all the people there with
bad esthetic opinions continue to cry about it. They're really upset. They will.
Yeah, I hope they go and huddle their five hundred boring black boxes
that all of their entertainment machines look like now and get out. Yeah.
Too bad that we actually have one console that decided to have a little bit
of fun, almost like it's met for playing video games. I have been
like looking for VCRs because there I have a fanful of tapes I want to
watch and digitize and stuff, and actually need a VCR to do that.
They're expensive on Amazon, obviously you got to get them used. So but
I was on Amazon, I saw a couple that were like, oh,
this one's like cool and purple. I wish I would have had a cool
purple VHS player when I was when I was younger, but all we had
ever were the boring black boxes. Maybe occasionally they'd be silver or gray,
but usually it was boring black. So I was I'm with you. I
like that the PS five is interesting looking, and I want them to maintain
that. I think they probably will. I think they believe in their design
in the way a lot of their fans do not. I don't know.
Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, look, it's you know,
obviously some people are gonna complain about nobody's I don't think there's anybody who's
not going to buy one because I think it's ugly anyways, So why bother
redesigning something if you know it's working, but also it is a chance for
them to maybe I mean, hey, one of the big problems that people
do have it with it is just that it's too big. So if it's
a slim, just making it smaller, but maybe keeping kind of that those
curves and whatnot, that will make it more palatable for some people. That
four hundred dollar price tag sounds a bit strange to me. I don't know,
what do you think, Yeah, that seems pretty low, because what
it's still five hundred right now, right fifty everywhere except for the United States
for the most part, and then in the United States you pretty much have
to get version that comes with a game. So five fifty is their target
price that they all they launched it at five hundred and increase the price.
So the idea of them giving back up not just that ground, then a
whole bunch more now to be fair, PS Slim, PS five slim is
not going to have a disk drive. That's the reporting makes a lot of
sense. They seem to be happily moving away from physical media, or like
or encouraging people move away from physical media, and then when those freaks come
by and say, hey, I love my discs, they're like here,
we'll sell you a separate disk drive that you can connect your PS five slim.
Now that that in mind, I like a four hundred dollar price tag
makes some sense, but it doesn't make a ton of sense if that is
truly going to replace the PS five and the PS five digital, because that
is also the reporting that this will be the one model of PS five going
forward until we get maybe a pro next year. Man, that's so I
don't know. I'm just kind of stuck on the only actual model of the
PLACE five is not going to have a disk drive by default. I mean,
we'll see what that actually looks like in reality, because you never they
might still keep manufacturing the five hundred dollars destroy and keep that on store shelves
longer than we think. But that is the reporting right now. So I
think we're going to get a lot more of like video because, like I
still magic places like Walmart and whatnot are going to sell video games quote unquote,
I wanted we're to be getting a lot more of codes and boxes or
things like that. Probably maybe I think that's because you know, the idea
of going to a store and buying a physical version. I know a lot
of people do appreciate that, and they they want to resell their games and
all that stuff. But for a lot of people, it just comes down
to a lot of people, not most people, but a lot of people
going to a store is easier and they like it better than go in online.
Lot a lot of people still buy stuff with cash theacier just to go
into a store and buy the thing you want. And if that thing is
just a disc and you can't use it on your PS five going forward,
and that's the you know, the PS five you could find, I suppose
that might encourage you to want to go get the disk drive. I don't
think that's what Sony is actually trying to encourage you to do. I think
they are trying to get you to go all digital so that you can't sell
your games and you are stuck with them and stuff like that. So,
yeah, how much does the disc Playstition five costs right now? Four hundred
dollars? That is four hundred you know what I think now that I think
about, they might have increased the price for that fifty dollars as well in
a lot of territories. I can't remember. The reason I can't remember is
that thing is. I mean, listen, I got one, but it
took me months to track one down. Um that's the version I have of
the PS five after I sold my game, my PS five original to my
nephew. Um I so it took me a long time to track that down.
I really don't think that PS five digital editions are something that they're making
a lot of. Like maybe ten percent of the PS five's in the world
are the are the digital editions. So the pricing of that almost doesn't factor
into this the arithmetic, really, but that is what it costs right now
if you were to, you know, actually be confronted with one in a
store. Okay, well that's not now. I'm like, so like now,
these two things almost don't seem lining up to me, Like they're not
selling early as many of the discs version. They're also not making that many
as Really, that's what it is. That's the that's the real factor there.
They probably would have sold a lot more. I think they still would
have sold more overall of the PS five disc version. I think that's still
like the kind of people who are showing up to get a PS five in
these first few years, those are going to be the ones that want the
disks. So yes, so with this, uh you think this is going
to come out? This place? Should five slim? Like what like right
around Spider Man two or just kind of right before a holiday? I know,
yeah, Spider Man two. Yes, I think it comes to that
same week probably, So that back to the question, Mike, when do
they announce this thing? They're gonna have to do it soon, right,
and I want to win and where I know when we were all kind of
underwhelmed by there's place they should showcase from a month or so back, we
were all wonder rings they're going to be another one of those, right,
and uh, maybe maybe there's going to be something where they can announce this
and maybe actually do announce a few things to look forward to beyond Spider Man,
right, because we didn't really get a whole lot of that. And
hey, it's great that Spider Man's coming. We're all very excited. But
now that that's soon, mom, fancy sixteen has happened, we do have
some stuff like fancy seven. I never remember what's called reunion. Let's say
reunion, uh coming coming soon. It's not reunion rebirth, rebirth rebirth.
Yeah, I was gonna call it remake two. Um, yeah I do.
I do want to you know, hear about like Ghostasshima two or whatever
else is happening. Yeah, it's Uh. I feel like one of those
PlayStation showcases is when they showed the hardware of the PS five. Was that
Like the first PlayStation showcase in the lead up to to PS five is when
they showed the hardware for that. So if they do another showcase this year,
I could see that ending with and here is the PS five Slim.
You could pre order it now at PlayStation Direct. Uh. Yeah, that
that sounds that sounds right to me. Uh, the psorry Pro then,
do I mean, do we still think that makes I mean, if the
PS five Slim comes out and replaces the both models, I do think a
PRO is going to happen and probably be at least one hundred dollars more expensive
than whatever the PS five Slim launchers for. But I think the PS five
Slim could easily be four fifty to five hundred dollars, and then a PRO
coming out being six hundred is not out of the realm of possibility. I
don't know, what do you think. I never thought a PRO was going
to happen until like the last few months, right, just just all of
these games suddenly having a hard time. You know, you know, we
went from like, oh wow, yeah, every game has a pretty good
sixty fps mode. Well, Insomniac has a sixty fps ray tracing mode on
its games, and we went from that too. Well. I mean,
you know, of course Redfall can't do sixty fps because that's just a bad
game and it wasn't made well. But you know, now we have Jedi
Survivor pumping sixteen in Starfield just not even trying to hit sixty fps. So
yeah, I think this stuff might be coming this jen after all. And
it's a little bit of a bummer. But I kind of kind of blame
myself for being gullible, really ying into the hype about how powerful these machines
were, right, and just the realities of what console gaming can actually do
at the prices it needs to be at. I do wonder, so,
okay, Places and five pro does that have a disk drive? I think
it does, because that's the pro option needs to come with everything, right,
you need to be able to have I think it comes through twice the
amount of storage, a lot more power. Now you know, significantly more
power and then you know, more powerful GPU at the very least, and
then and then a disk drive will still be in there. Yes, Um,
can you actually read this rogers og super chat real quick because this jumps
off of this topic, and then we can move on to what's next,
right, and hey, you you can send a super chat too during the
show and we will read your question or comment live on the air. But
from rogers Og, here says, regarding physical games, I work out a
Walmart, and I can tell you way more people buy the gift card vouchers
for digital games rather than physical versions. Very few people actually buy the disks.
Okay, Walmart is a place where I thought maybe that would still be
happening. So that's interesting. Yeah, I mean I bet that's true.
I mean, this is the Rogers This is anecdotal, but I still believe
you. I think. I mean, we can look at the numbers that
these companies provide, and no one's saying like one hundred percent of their stuff
is digital, but it like it does range from fifty to seventy percent of
their revenue from selling new, full, new full games is digital. Sometimes
those numbers get mixed up because they're like, oh, we make this much
money from digital, and sometimes that includes micro transactions, but a lot of
times companies clarify the number and they're like, no, this is for full
game sales and sixty percent is digital. So a lot of people still are
buying physical and enough that it really matters. But I do, and I
do believe that today, like at a Walmart or a game a game stop,
a lot of places like that, because there are a lot of Xbox
series s is out there, I bet a lot of people are buying digital
like codes because they don't even have a describe already. Yeah, I think
that's right. I do. Uh. It makes me think of when I
was at a game stop for Christmas this year and I was just kind of
in there looking for like presence for nephews and nieces. Like the thing people
kept coming in to look for was Roebucks. Like four people came in and
asked about Roebucks cards for roadblocks and they're all turned away because they had sold
out, right, And then I think it's it's it's weird to a lot
of people, I think, but that generation has already moved on. They
that all their games are already all digital because they are live service games like
Roadblocks and stuff like that. Uh, this pricing like before we move on,
those numbers were from Microsoft internally, like speculating it seems. Do you
think there's a chance that they're trying to like just yeah, I'll do a
little bit of an underhanded thing to Sony where it's like, oh, it's
gonna be four hundreds, so that when Sony announces it's one hundred dollars more
than that, they look bad. Maybe that maybe it's like showing you have
to see like, look, you're you know, we have to compete with
their console at four hundred dollars now, so you know, it's really real
hard for us. I mean there's it certainly benefits them in multiple ways to
present it like sonything is going to be as cheap as possible. But I
mean if it is four hundred dollars, you know, yeah, because because
that's going to make the Series S look worse. How much is a Series
S right now? It will be cheaper, right the base version three hundred,
the the one terabyte version is three fifty. I think, yeah,
so it's like okay for one hundred dollars more. They're both three dollars.
Yeah, you can just get a place they should five slim And yeah,
it's smaller, but it's more a lot more. It's decently more powerful than
a series that's so. Yeah, I think that's going to put Microsoft in
a spot and man even more so than places. And I think they're going
to maybe want that mid gen refresh huh, yes, for no other reason,
so they can maybe finally be like, hey, you don't have to
worry about Xbox Series S parody. You have to get your game to run
on series S. But of course we don't expect it to run as well
as it does on the Xbox one, x X whatever they'll they'll call it.
Fifty was right the right price. But but yeah, um, all
right, let's see what is next here. I have Capcom is pondering Mega
Man's future. Mike Gasp. They basically were like, we're asked, hey,
MegaMan, that's like, listen, you're doing a ton of stuff.
What's what are you doing with MegaMan? And they're like, listen, we
are thinking about what to do with MegaMan. How do you take that?
Hey? At least it didn't say well, no comment, right, Yeah,
they could have just said nothing and they said, yes, we are
thinking about it now. There is a bit of like that almost did Tendo
talk right When it's like, hey, why don't you make a new of
the zero, It's like, well, we just need a new idea.
Yeah, so a little bit of that, say it is in rocket science
here. But you know, I've been telling you for a while I want
them to be ambitious with the next Mega Man. I mean, if they
announced Mega Man twelve, Mega Man x nine, it's you know, a
two D game, I'd still be very excited, of course, but I
do want to see, like them use that ri engine make some really cool
Mega Man game that people will spend sixty dollars for to be like a you
know, a five million seller maybe gosh even a four million sewer three million
so would be pretty good for Mega Man. Yes it would. So something
like that would be really cool. You know, I start to see you
before too, and like, you know, I look. I like Mega
Man Legends also a lot. I played Megama Legends one all the way through
for the first time recently. I still think it's great. I don't want
the next Mega Man game to be Mega Man Legends three because I want the
next Mega game to sell him. Listen, that is one hundred percent correct.
I'm sorry. Mega Man Legends three is not going to fail because it's
um the sequel to MegaMan Legends one and two games that didn't sell very well.
It would it would not, it would like not perform as well as
a new, fancy from the ground up, fresh star big three D Mega
Man game that feels like this, Hey, this is important because we're Capcom.
We're saying this is important. This isn't important because a bunch of nerds
from there who are too old are saying are begging for this game series to
come back. Like I mean, I'm sure they could a lot of fun
stuff with MegaMan Legends three, and maybe eventually they do get around and eventually
eventually you'll get that boy off the moon. But like, you know,
let's we got to really do something splashy here first. I think Big Turbo's
right. I think they do a MegaMan Legends compilation with Tronbon in there,
and that's yeah, that's three games, yep, just fantastic. That would
get modernized the controls a bit on some of those. I mean again,
I think those games actually still hold it up really well. Aside for maybe
the controls. You know, I mean, I'm a sick goo I can
get used to that stuff. But for other people, you spice those up.
I think a collection, I mean, the Battle Network collection did really
well, and I think that probably actually has more fans of legends. Maybe
the Little Just collection wouldn't do that well. It would do well enough,
and I think we I at this point, I think we're getting every MegaMan
game in a collection. I think that is going to happen. Maybe get
those Star Force games. I'm not sure how much people are how fun people
were of those, but it'll happen. But again, I want more than
collections, and they, you know, basically kind of acknowledge that, and
I you know, I bet, I bet there are ideas churning. I
don't think we're going to hear anything imminently. I don't know if we're going
to hear anything within the next year, but I am hopeful it's not.
It's definitely not the situation like some of these other companies where it's clear that
the character's dead and they want nothing more to do with it. They still
do kind of use Mega Man as a mascot. Any lot of stuff.
Battle Network selling as well as it did. The collection clearly has had to
open up their eyes too. Oh, there are a lot of MegaMan freaks
out there, and we are actually leaving money on the table. I just
I'm not like a skeptical skeptical of Capcom's ability to like learn the right lesson.
I do wonder what lesson they take away from Hey, MegaMan Battle Network
collection did better than most of our other collections? What do we do next
with this information? And it's like, I hope it is do a lot
of stuff with Mega Man, including a new Battle Network. I wonder if
they're just like, oh, let's just do a small new Battle Network game.
That seems very likely as well. So yeah, that wouldn't exactly let
my world on fire. Yep, stop calling me a freak list. We're
all freaks here. What do you think? I think the Scott Damn podcast
is red That's right, the freak Zone red Dead redemption remaster rumors continue to
pick up some more credible credible evidence. Um, basically a bunch of more
people are are corroborating this report. That sounds right. I don't know if
we talked about this last week, because there was this mostly this is from
the last week. But Reddeption one remaster, Yeah, Red Dead Redemption one
remaster is what I if I didn't say that, that's what I meant to
say. I guess I've just missed it. It could also just be a
remake of sorts um but you know, probably a Big Boy remaster is actually
what they're going for. Uh. This is something that they were working on
a long time ago and they put it on pause after that GTA Trilogy was
a complete cluster fuck. Apparently they really did just put it on pause,
though with every intention of going back to it, because of course they did,
like this is a game that would is going to sell well when they
put it out as long as it's competently produced, and this will be a
chance to maybe get it onto PC finally in a way, and then went
away that it hasn't been before. So right now it's been rated in South
Korea for console, not for PC at least as far as anyone can tell,
So they will probably what they'll probably do is they'll update it for the
modern consoles and then put out a PC version later. If they're doing all
this work, that makes a lot of sense. Red Dead Redemption one.
Is that one that you have a lot of fondness for. I know you
like too, I like too, but I love one. Redemption one was
fantastic. That was definitely one of my favorite games from that generation. Actually,
that one hit from me really well. I'm not usually a big growth
left auto guy. I think red Der Redeption did a much much better job
having a consistent tone to it. I really liked its vibe. The music
was great, you know the whole you know, when you go to Mexo
for the first time that song plays. I don't know why that was such
a good moment, but it really was. Had a really really strong ending.
I thought mechanics were a lot of fun. Yeah, I love Red
Dead Redemption One. Actually, I'm really interested to go back to that and
see what I think of it. Now. Uh do you think it comes
to the Switch huh Um? I say, well, they did get the
GTA trilogy on Switch, but that right sucked? Yeah? Yes, uh,
I mean hey, maybe hey, maybe they're they're thinking about Switch too
now right Maybe not? Maybe it'll be an early switched to thing. Yeah,
maybe kind of fun. Okay, if you put put that out as
a launch window game on the switch follow up, I bet it does very
well. Actually, all right, Smoke and Rain confirmed as playable in Mortal
Kombat one, and then Sector Cyrax, Frost, and Scorpion are now all
also confirmed as cameo fighters. Um. I watched that trailer that this game
continues to look so like so much fun, and Smoke and Rain in particular
look very good. I was very impressed. I think Rain looks actually kind
of awesome. It looks super cool. Yeah, Like Smoke is very much
like the classic kind of uh ninja look, he looks pretty simply, and
how subzero Scorpion look in this game. But Rain has kind of like a
cool mage thing, going, what are you flashing to the camera? By
that? I just want people are talking about my physical game because I'm a
freak. Two. I just was trying to show him the price. It's
three dollars and fifty one cents for this Mario golf for the Game Boy Color.
When did you get that? Long time ago? About to say I
have some games like that too that have old sticker prices. When I bought
two nine goal in Yeah, and it's very funny to see how much we
used to get these four But yeah, I mean, right, looks great,
but you know me, I'm a smoke freak. I mean, I
almost feel I feel bizarrely blessed that. I mean, I've been crying about
Smoke this whole time Wortal Kombat one, and literally the first character announced for
it after like the initial roster is Smoke. I told you all that ed
Boone led me to believe it was going to happen. I also got some
info from some other people. Thank you very much. You made me think
it was going to happen, so I knew I was pretty sure it was
going to happen. But seeing it and announced right away, he looks really
cool. He's kind of he has like he's like kind of fighting with like
knives, which is a little bit different, I think than what he's done
before. So there's some twist there. But yeah, I don't know why
I love all the ninjas. Actually, they're all good. I feel like
I feel like every more combat game, I want all of them. I
don't just want Subsiduent Scorpion. They're great. Give me Irmac, give me
Rain, give me Reptile and Smoke, even give me Tremor. Hell,
I don't care. I think they're all great. Yeah, I want them
to keep and really the way that they're doing this continues to be really fun
where it's like, oh, these characters come back and we get to see
how they change from Mortal Kombat one, and then we also get all these
cameo fighters that are just like absolutely hitting the nostalgia buttons. Um yeah,
like Cyrax and Sector just straight up how they look in like Mortal Kombat three
and uh yeah, and they look great. I do always like those characters.
I wouldn't mind if Robots Smoke was a it was a cameo character on
top of that exactly. I'm not I'm not gonna get that greedy, but
it's fun. But yeah, it looks great. Aw Fight Forever Stadium Stampede
Battle Royal Moode was has been teased. We don't have to like talk about
the mode, although it looks pretty fun. It's like a Battle royalmode.
I mean kind it's it's a free update, I think too. So that's
neat exactly. That's kind of where I'm at. So they they've talked about
in the past, at least I've heard this. I can't remember who said
it, aw And or Yuks, but that the plan is to support this
game, this specific game, for two years. This feels like a really
good start, and I hope that, like the future updates look a lot
like this, where like, let's just try big, crazy things in this
because I think that could be a really good way to keep this game relevant
as long as they keep updating the roster pretty heavily. They introduced sting that
was good, We've got staying, We've got I think FTR and I believe
the acclaimed is either they are coming soon, I'm exactly. I mean,
look that that's a great plan, but they're gonna fall through with it if
the sales numbers are there. And I still worry that they really shot themselves
on the foot with a sixty dollar price pet price tag for this game.
Yeah, but I feel like it's one. If you drop it to forty
and you keep doing these updates, I bet it. I bet like it
picks up like positive word of mouth enough, I would hope. I hope
so, I hope so. But it would have been better if it just
came out at forty. But sure they'll drop the price eventually, but not
how many people are waiting for that? And then people might be wait for
that and then miss it when it happens. Right, Yes, it's difficult,
but because like I still want to play the game, but I don't
really want to spend sixty bucks on it, and I didn't get a code,
and plus it's this time of the year, right, it's crazy any
games we had to play, but well you're playing it's the quick click on
Jianbom. I thought it looked really fun. Actually, that's kind of into
it. I think the best way to describe it is it really is WCW
w W versus INWO Revenge, not WWF No Mercy Mercy, because it's like
No Mercy came out after and was more refined and had more stuff. This
for me, and I didn't play a lot of that because I was watching
WCW, so I was like renting the WCW games over and over, and
those always felt pretty slight and then but it was like still a lot of
fun because the systems were there, and this feels a lot like that,
where it is not quite as refined as you can imagine it maybe end up
end up being in a couple of years. I hope it kind of gets
there. I think i'd be very excited. I mean, would you rather
they just make the sequel and like a year um with some improvements of bigger
roster. I don't know, because it's like for this kind like that.
It was not some great idea for Yukes Games previously, right, Like Yukes
wasn't like making huge improvements because they were on an annual, annual early schedule.
So I'm hopeful that by focusing on this game that has a decent foundation,
I find it very fun to play. And so if you take that
and you keep adding to the roster, and you keep adding new modes and
then maybe add some new moves here and there, I think that is pretty
promising. Obviously, there's a lot of stuff that would be probably easier to
introduce in a sequel, like an improved character creator mode, because like that's
a lot of work to go into something that it just doesn't feel like you
get a lot of mileage from that as a developer putting that out as an
update. That feels like I'm a feature you put on the box when you're
first selling the game. So yeah, I do want them to get around
to doing a sequel, But I think that updates to aw Fight Forever can
really work. And you know, they have a platform to promote this game,
you know, every week on television throwing forward. So I kind of
hope they just know. There's always a big reason I think why the w
E games always did so well. Right right, really remind people that those
exist. You can really target your fan base directly. Yep. And it's
um it's kind of thing where you know, you just every time you have
a new big content update drop, you just make a new just tell them
made for TV commercial. Just tell the fan base and give them a reason,
like because people you miss last time, be like it still has all
that stuff and now it has this thing that you might be into. Either
you can work, get Excalibur to scream about it will be We'll be happy.
There's a lot of fun fighting game stuff. I don't know if it's
on your rundown, but the Rashid the first DLC character for a Streetfighter six
scot a gameplay show there or at least date on July twenty fourth, and
he's looking like a lot of fun. He's a streamer, which is an
interesting character quirk. Now, yeah, he's he's he's four K sixty f
yes, beat your ass kind of guy. Now that's going to that bandwidth
on that that that's going to require unless he's use an AV one encode of
course. Um. Last of Us Part three millcap filming is happening this year
apparently, Mike, you are someone that I used to very much associate with
Naughty Dog fandom, and now you're not so much that. Well, how
are you feeling about this? Yeah? I mean, look, I just
I like Last of Us one. Then I played half of Last of Us
two, and like, you know, after a while, I have enough
of these miserable people and their miserable problems. Is kind of how I feel.
Like. That's the way I put it, Like, Yeah, I
get it. Shit sucks for these people and it's terrible. I mean I
get it. I get why people really like it. And you know the
fact that I did like Last of Us Part one so much it was me
kind of going against the aesthetics that I generally are into, right, or
the kind of like the tone of the kind of games I'm into. Right,
I charted very much more of my thing. We're having an adventure.
It's fun, the sun's out and all that stuff. But yeah, the
Last of Us just doesn't do it for me, I'm not shocked we're getting
a third one. I really wish we sort of got another new game from
Naughty dock first and in the way that we got Last of Us between a
chartered three and four. But with how long games take to make, now
Last of Us is obviously this huge thing, I'm not surprised. Yeah,
strike Strike while that Iron's hot, finish up Lasts of Us. Hopefully this
is like kind of the conclusion there so that night Dog can start working on
something else. But I'm not sure. Yeah, you know, like you
said, you get it. I get it. I get that, this
is why. I get why this is happening. But then at the same
time, i'd be like, you know, uncharted, I get like why,
I get why we're gonna always get uncharted games from Naughty Dog, and
we're not getting that. Clearly they want to make a Last of Us Part
three on top of also probably in making a lot of financial sense, and
Sony very much encourage and encourage them to do so. Um, But I
don't know. If I wonder if Naughty Dog were to turn to something more
crowded pleasing, if that is you know, and that's what I would prefer
but I never know if my tastes are aligned with a wider audience or not.
Oh, I think that, I think this is what's crab pleasing.
You're you know what, You're probably that's almost exactly right. This is this
does seem actually, because whenever I hear wider audiences talk about video games,
Last of Us is what comes up and they talk in and it's like they
like, I would still more games like that, and I'm like, I'm
glad there aren't, because so much resources goes into it that like even like
one or two things like that is to take so much, so much oxygen
out of the room for these big publishers that yeah, there's a reason why
we only get a few of them. Yeah, I wonder what miserable shit's
going to happen Last of Us three. I wonder if someone's going to like
get their leg chopped off in the beginning, and then they'll they'll fall,
they'll go'll get like a pony, and then the pony will die. Yeah,
the pony will will just be beautiful and pure, and they'll they'll punish
it for that, they'll punish it. Thing will be really brown and it
will be really sweaty and dirty. It's nice. Yeah, we'll see Naughty
Dog fans will keep getting those Naughty Dog games though, so I mean they
do. Yeah, they make good games. They are They're definitely good games.
I'm sure if I like did sit Down be like I am going to
beat Last of Us two, I would have a fine time with it.
I find a lot I appreciate. But again that that really is my tagline
for like what is my problem? Why don't I care more about Last of
Us? I am tired of these miserable people and their miserable problems. I
really like the rope physics. They should make an entire game about that.
Charted It four had that rope shit. Man, I'm ruled in there.
I think they just stolen stole, but they just use the rope physics.
I Charted It four a lot of fun. I really like. I love
on Chart at four. I think, okay since the ridiculous to say on
Chart at four is underrated, but that game no one talks about it.
I no one talks about that. Maybe it's like I'm not like listening to
the right people. But these big sony games do, I guess because like
God of War kind of always gets brought up, but it's like anything that's
not God of War or the Last to us, it does feel like they
come and go and then they like they get forgotten about, and I'm like,
I'm trying to for this one. I would like think about all the
time. I just enjoyed myself, but I'm probably just like missing the conversations
about that dick termss Mike, why are people in an apocalypse so visible?
Yeah? I get it, but I don't have to like inhabit that world
constantly. I feel like if you were an apocalypse, you would still be
pretty much the same person, Mike. I think you would probably pretty much
still be Mike. Yeah. I don't think I would suddenly be dour and
like, yeah constantly like solemnly playing a guitar and being sad. I don't
know, all right? That does are the big headlines I have written down
here? Yeah, look at that. I even I told you. I
screamed at you about the headline I found for you. I said, put
it in the round down and you didn't. I didn't. You did it?
What is it? It's street Fighter six? Yes, sales numbers.
Street Fighter six has sold two million copies. Everybody. Mike did tell me,
I forget what I was doing at the time. Yes, that is
I think pretty good for a fighting game. Listen, street Fighter has never
been the top selling fighting game except for a probably a street Fighter two.
Since then, Mortal Kombat has only grown bigger every time that they put out
a new one. Mortal Kombat eleven has sold fifteen million cups were wide,
which is very very very good, very good. Mortal Kombat was a good
I mean, street Fighter SIPs wasn't going to do that, but they did
aim for ten million. They said that they're aiming for ten million. They're
probably on a trajectory to hit that. Street Fighter should have pretty good legs,
though I thought it. I thought it would get off to a slightly
better start. But I don't know. I mean, you know, we
haven't seen it at its first EVO and things like that. Does that stuff
make a difference. I honestly don't know. I guess. I mean,
apparently of street Fighter five has somehow sold seven point two million units, which
shocks me. That's a game those only on PC and PlayStation four. So
yeah, this game is going to have to sell better than that. It's
going it is going to sell better than that. I think it probably probably
you know, halts around nine to ten million. You know, they're going
to support this game for a long time, So I yeah, I do
think it gets to ten million. It's just, um, do get to
a strong ten million with like, you know, a few few price drops
and things like that. Probably not, but I don't know if that's ever
what they meant. Yeah, I guess. I mean it's just you know,
two millions good, but all again, this isn't like two million.
It's first weekend. This is two million. Now the game came out about
a month ago, right, Yeah, I think that's um, I think
it's good. It's good. It's like you gotta keep good fighting games away.
Yeah, Mortal Kombat eleven is the best selling fighting game that's not a
Smash Brothers and uh and Smash Brothers is what like thirty million? Thirty five
millis? I mean? Is it got to hurt it that Mortal Kombat one
is coming out? Like, you know, if your goal is maybe get
some more of that audience, people are just getting play Mortal Kobat after all,
I don't think it hurts it. I think I think well, with
fighting games, it is a little bit of a rising tide lifts all boats
so that things like that, that that road every town has of all the
card dealerships kind of thing exactly. I think it's that sort of thing,
yes, where it's like because one if one card dealership starts doing better,
it usually improves business at another one. I think it's that sort of thing
where the more people that are excited about fighting games, the better for everyone.
And if more to Kombat one is the reason people get excited about fighting
games, that's actually just gonna mean good things for street fighters six, I
think, and GE's probably how to work I much just before remakes sort or
curious now, I don't know. I'll try to find that, but we
can move on now. Well, we're gonna move on to a break.
When we get back, we're going to read some super chats. We are
going to do our Metacritic prediction for the next quarter. After my stunning and
just glorious victory from last quarter, we're just stunted on this hoe just absolutely
destroy it them. We'll give them a chance to get a little bit of
redemption. We'll do that when we get back as well, and then we're
gonna do a mount rushmore of sports video game arcade staff sports video games?
Man, did I not tell you that's interesting? Tell me that that's interesting.
We'll do that. We'll get back right after these messages, and we
are back. Mike, you have some super chats. I'm led to believe
this is in fact correct, sir, And in fact, the first one
here is from I column seventeen XS and says, hey, guys, hope
you had a great fourth of July. Also, did you guys see that
the reeptually got raided in South Korea? Maybe a potential remasters on the way,
we think so? I did have a nice fourth of July? Uh,
And I did? We did? We talked about that. Man.
Again, I am hopeful. I I do wonder just what that's going to
be, because we do have we are getting some games from that generation just
actually being remade, like I guess just Dead Space is the only example I
can really think of. But clearly they have to do better than what they
do with the Grand Theft Auto trilogy. You said, you said they paused
the efforts on this and grewd Theft Auto four after that was a bit of
a mess. So hopefully they rethought what they were doing there. I hope
that this is a really impressive remaster again, I love that game. Yeah,
I um, I yeah, I'm right there with you. I think
they are doing it. I think it'll be a big boy remaster, bordering
on remake, something that can to definitely Metroid Prime, but maybe as much
as Dead Space. We'll see. Connal Wood says, no way, as
Slim is four hundred, if Project Q is three hundred, what's Project Q
again? It is? So you have this ultrahndibility from Zelda and then you
have a dual sense weu game pad. Yes, you ripped the duel sense
in half, put a tablet between it and it used ultra hand to glue
it together. And then that you have a project QUE that you're sold a
three hundred dollars and not only works with to I, it's three hundred dollars.
We don't know what price? Yeah, where where does that price coming
from? Canal excuse me? Put it in chat because I um Jan said
the same thing today and we couldn't figure out where we had heard that.
I think a lot of people were just pessimi pessimistically guessing. I don't think
they say it's going to cost that we'll see, right though, that'd be
insane. No, I actually I don't. There's just no way that's insane.
The I mean, okay, I get it. We'll see it's charting
for things. Yeah, I understand that, but still, okay, my
god, we'll see, we'll see. Jodaka says. The real question is
if Xbox as a pro model, do they fix the sense of their past
and use NVM this time? Jeff? What is eDV M E non volatile
memory? What's the E stand for you? A camera excitement excitement UM?
Extreme sex Express because of some new version, right right, that's right?
So I liked extreme sex. Yeah, of course NBAME is just they do
they use SATA? They use they do they? I thought they used MBAME
for a long time, but I guess now that i'm thinking about I do
remember hearing that they use SATA insteads These are just a truth to me,
is instead of the card like is it just instead of since a CF express?
So they were okay, uh no, no, no, they're just
I get what you mean. So instead and so you want to be able
to just install an m to SSD into your thing to expand your storage instead
of being stuck on the CF Express cards that are proprietarily made. Um,
I could see that. I mean for a pro model. If they do
a pro you would hope that they wouldn't give you every option. They're probably
not going to because they've made all these deals. They're probably just going to
stick to this thing that's simple and clean. Whatever, simple and clean.
Yes, you're like the way that you're making me feel. Does that mean
I have to meet your father? From Ryan Allen and says Mega Man meets
Dead Cells or Hades, Hey, I got a game for you, Ryan.
Thirty XCX is in early access, but it's actually sequel called twenty XCX.
I think you should just play thirty XCX even though it's in early access.
But that is in fact just Mega man X as a rogue light and
it's a very fun. I'm a big fan of it. Although again,
like I I want Capcom whatever, I don't want it to really take us
braces from indie games necessarily. Nothing wrong with indie games. I love indie
games, but they're track you hate them? Yeah, well, you know,
look, I'm not exactly the big reternal guy, but like you know,
maybe look at Returnal. Actually, what the Mega Man absolutely not look
at Hades. Are you insane? What are you saying? I'm actually mad
at what was a shooter? Are you talking about? Well? Because well,
because I look, I want a three D game, I do.
I just want to take just make Hades, but three D Reraternal is a
bad Hadies not bad, it's fine, but like all the truth comes out,
all this stuff that Reternal does, in terms of being a rogue light
is okay, pales in comparison to what Hades does. Okay, that's fair,
that's fair. But I guess I just mean in terms of more like
the game three three, If that's what you mean, I think Mega Man
should have a gun and not a sword unless you're zero ah An TONIONI says,
make Mega Man like Kirby Forgottenland but hard. Yeah, Kirby had a
gun in that game. Yeah, yeah, you could do kind of have
megamanness to it. Thirty xx has a Maker update. Apparently you can like
make levels in thirty x X. Now that's yeah, that's it's yeah,
that game is very good. I kind of have kept waiting for it to
get out of early access. I'm most surprised, Like, I'm glad you
have a Maker update. Maybe get out of early access and then work on
the Maker stuff totally, you know whatever, Burrito says Mike MegaMan Bass Sash.
Mega Man Forte was created before Shadow the Hedgehog, and unlike Shadow,
as an auto cannon and doesn't feature in games. That suck. Here's some
money though, X thank you. Look, yeah, I know he came
before Shadow. I'm just shadow energy. That's just like, oh, this
is this is a Mega Man's shadow, like, yes, absolutely, like
he's he's a bad character. I do not like bass or bass or whatever.
It's base. Yeah, like it's all music things. Yeah. Bryce
Gilbert says Batshit Prediction. Actors from the show are gonna come on stage at
Last of Us Part three reveal and announced they are playing new characters. Right,
No, I don't know. That's difficult because yeah, you're gonna have
to recast them, Sash. A lot of those characters are aged and are
dead now. But us they're expensive, right, you don't need to do
that. You got you got your homies there. I think you misread that.
I think the person people, yeah'll bring them as to people, but
he would still like why pay them? Yeah? I don't think so.
I don't think. I don't think you need to do that. I think
we just got a new one from Dan. Okay, we gotta do one
from uh uh oh, Bryce Gilbert just set in the same one twice,
But thank you, Bryce, I appreciate it. And then Dan Park says
what animal depictions would a new Mega man X use if a new one is
on its way, I don't know which ones it has used in the past,
Mike, so I have to leave this to you. Well, let's
use a lot of them, and trust me, there's a quite a few
I don't remember because they're from like Mega Man X six or X seven,
So who gives a shit? So I think they could do pretty much anything
they want to. I don't know what a fun theme would be. All
the sexiest animals? How about yeah, only foxes apparently? Yeah, there
you go, Sean, that's for you. All right, that's it for
super chests for now. If you guys have more super chats, we are
happy to read those on the air. We will get to them all before
the end of the show. But I think it's game time. It is
game time, yes, So how are you doing this, Sean? Like,
do you have like the list of games that we just tell you what
our guess is, our lovely presentation pulled up. I'll look at this,
he does. All right, all the listeners will We're back right after this.
We're back obs crashed. But that doesn't matter. We can still do
a podcast. Mike, I think you had something on your mind. I
forgot to talk about Peter Mahlanu. What do we even? I mean,
we're just gonna do the same jokes we did fifteen years ago. Yeah,
I put it in the description for the YouTube video. Guys, like,
what else is Jeff gonna talk about? He never passes by an opportunity to
make fun of Peter macause I don't actually ask you what we're talking about.
It just kind of assumed, yeah, something, Yeah, Peter Malanu is
making he did he say what it is, because here's what he's talking.
He says, that's something we've never seen before. So it must be a
good game from Peter Molineu. Of course, Uh, you know, he's
made good game. I respect that he is still doing that same sales pitch,
that he's still running the same old old community. Yeah, just thought,
just like I'm just gonna try to make a fun video game. No,
no, still it's gonna change everything. No growth as a person,
no changing, just still doing the same old song and dance. Fuck yeah,
Peter Malaneu. How old is Peter Malan Because that's a guy who looked
like he was sixty, like fifteen years again, right, well, and
he looked old when he was like making populous and stuff. Um, he
probably is sixty now sixty issue can't be surprised for him. I don't know
what what else do we do about this? Mike, just actually fable the
ride to that being incredible? That would rule. That would actually be that
we found out that game is like ten hours long, right yes, because
we were like how long could that be? And we're like, that's probably
like four hours at long at the longest two hours. Yeah hours, what
are you talking about? Um? I would love it if it was a
game where when you started up and it had one of those terms of services,
it's just this game you have to agree this game is not on rails,
and then click on the box and they hit agreed and then it is
on rails. I would very much like, Hey, Nick Turbo sentence superd
say talk about black Flag, Mike, Yeah, there's that rumor that they're
making a Black Flag remake, and that's kind of weird. Yeah. Um,
apparently they have like what eleven or fifteen Assassin's Creed projects in the works,
so of course there they're remaking Assassin's Creed Black Flag if that's true.
Um, yeah, because they remastered like all of the two games, and
they remastered assass to Creed three, even which wasn't that popular, right,
So I wonder if you know if this is actually remake or just a remaster
to get it out on modern platforms, to make it so you can play
it on Switch. That means that game? What's even the difference like,
because like, for for me, it feels like that game, Like what
you remake it, it's just gonna look how I remember it? So yeah,
I don't know how much does it really need? Right it is a
Crisis Core. I bet it looks a lot like that, but for Crisis
Core going from being the PSP game to going to being like a modern game.
Flags on Switch already? Fuck me? Never mad it is boy remake?
Then what why? Because if they put a lot of Assassins Create games
out on Switch, I think Black Flag come to Switch. It was like
I think they did black, Black, fag and rogue. It's like a
two did you just said it this time? Oh? Did I? Did
I just do it? I'd think so it's I'd like to apologize to all
our listeners out there for my dumb feel better about the time I accidentally wha
we talk? Why you should point it out? You should just let it
go because it even the skills now now see it happened to anybody. No,
he did it? Okay, maybe I'm just hearing what I want to
hear. Jeff. I bet Jeff did it. That's a better person than
me. Um, let's stop talking about that game recorded on the internet so
we'll never know. Uh. Hey, we got a game here, Game
mess Metacritic Q three predictions. I'm gonna hand it over to our host.
I hate this fucking show. All right, we have part two of this
segment that we introduced last week. Uh, the quarter three predictions for the
Uncharted Wolf in the Communities Metacritic prediction game that does every quarter for us.
As always, this slide show is executive produced by Benji Bob Coochimo. Sure
of course. All right, so this time around, y'all are gonna get
a list of eleven games come out in the third quarter of the year.
The goal is to get closer to the actual Metacritic score that ends up with
closer. So try that this time instead what you did last time. Oh
god, we're starting out right a sore winner. If you get closer than
your point, you will get one point. If you predict the score exactly
right, you get two points. The score will be determined by the platform
that gets the most reviews, And if you don't think a game will come
out by the end of the quarter, you can simply say will not release
and you'll get double the points. So that being said, quick summary.
Quarter one Mike one and the community Alex and Superharman. Quarter two Jeff one
the community of Screaming Man. So the way Wolf does this is he doesn't
like comeback factors, you know X factor V trigger all that he's not a
fan, So as the winner of the last quarter, Jeff will be predicting.
First. That being said, I need both of you guys to tell
me what you think. XO Primal is going to begin on metacrect dot com.
This is tough. I thought about like all these I'm like, I
don't want to think about these two much. Extra Primal is one where it
is because people are having fun with it. But also I think if you
were to us, if you were a signing someone to review a game,
right, go get on Extra Primal, I think there's a strong chance to
be like, yeah, it's not for me. I'm gonna go with a
seventy nine. Okay, that's about where I was thinking. It's a bit
of a Capcom glow up factor. I think it's gonna be some people are
gonna be whoa, it's on game pass and a better run that runs well.
I could see, yeah, I could. I could see going lower.
I could see if I go lower, I could go a little bit
lower if I go high. I'm just gonna go buy a little bit,
right, I'll give my look, I love my Capcom. I'll give them
a little bit for the doubt here. I will say an eighty fair Okay,
So I take you neither you guys played in any of the betas or
anything like, yeah, I've heard good things because yeah I did, and
uh yeah it was pretty fun. It's like it's kind of mindless fun.
So I went to paid sixty four buys a game pass game. I'm gonna
last play this with friends, play that much, all right? Game number
two, Pick Man four. Now we are alternating here, so Mike,
you get to pick first. Yeah. Pickments three got very good reviews,
even on the WIIU. So this this is going to be high. I
don't know. I don't think it's gonna be astronomically high. I'd be surprised
if is he even nineties, even though it could do that, I think
it's going to be more like in eighty so pretty say eighty nine, okay,
Jeff, Yeah, I Mike is right. These games do review pretty
well. I think they've also been trending up. Um. I really like
that demo. I think that it got a lot of the craft out of
the way of like with the stop and start with the text bubbles, and
I think once people are actually playing the real game, they'll be past that
and they'll just jump right into it, and I think that'll help. Um,
I don't. I don't think it's going to do higher than eighty nine,
though that's what you said, Mike. Eighty nine, Yes, eighty
nine. I'm gonna go with eighty six. I think it's I think I
gets right in that just a little bit lower, but I think it's gonna
be eighty six. Is might be eighty seven, but I'm gonna go Actually,
can I let me do eighty seven? Sorry, I'd like double guess
myself, but I'm gonna do eighty seven. Yeah, we haven't moved on
to the next game. That's okay, all eighty seven, thank you?
Okay, that is locked in now though, going on to game three,
Jeff, I need to tell me anything. Disney Illusion The Island is gonna
get. This is another tough one because this is a family game. It's
a game made for kids to play with kids. And I wonder if after
the fourth level, without combat, without direct combat, if people reviewing this
game are going to get a little bit bored with it. So I'm gonna
go with And this is not like a reflection of how I felt, because
I enjoyed my time with it. I'm gonna go with seventy six. Yeah.
I think it's gonna do better than that. I think there's enough platforming
stuff there that people won't miss that too much. I think it's going to
charm a lot of people. I think it's gonna be astronomically high, but
I think it's going to be more like an eighty two. I think if
it does like Raymond Legends numbers or like a like a diet version of Raymond
Legends, I think eighty two is completely fair. Gass, Yeah, I
think it still seems raisonable. Yeah, all right. Game number four balters
Gate three, Mike, Yeah, this is rough because Divinity Original Sin two,
which is probably the best comparison here, did really well. People really
liked that. There's different expectations with it being a Balds game, but people
have liked that early access version of it already, so I think it's going
to do really well. Hmm. Like like Divinity Original Sin was like nineties
something that it seems weird. It seems unlikely to be that high. To
me, people have some kind of issue. I want to go eighty six.
Okay, that is like right in the range of what my original guest
was when I like wrote down some numbers when when we got this list last
week. But I'm like, now I'm second guessing myself. I think Mike's
recent name is pretty good. Where Divinity Originals into very well reviewed, this
game could have different expectations. Cereogramy people who want something from a boulders Gate
game because it's Boulder's Gate and this game is probably not gonna give it to
him, very very specific small things, but I doin't gonna be enough to
put it some people off. But I don't think it's gonna be that much
lower. I think I'm gonna go with a ninety even. Yeah, I
gues's gonna do very well. Okay, I could see it all right.
Game number five, Immortals of a Vum. Jeff, how you feeling about
this one? Just I'm not feeling anything at all. This is it's so
hard because it looks so boring. And then I've heard some I haven't played
it, but I've heard some people play it and they're like, yeah,
it's fun once you start playing it. So what do I do with that?
Uh? I think it's gonna be a you know what, I'm gonna
going in the Gut seventy four. I was gonna go Hire, but I'm
gonna go in the Gut seventy four. There's a part of me that wanted
to say, I don't think this game's coming out, But I don't think
it's gonna it's supposed to come out in August. I think it's gonna get
delayed that much, if at all. Yeah, gosh, it's this is
hard because I keep looking this game and I see all the stuff you need
for a video game. I got graph fix and action and characters, all
the things are there, Yet I feel nothing, even like it looks like
snappy. Um gosh, I think, Jeff, what did Jeff say,
seventy four four? I'm gonna say seventy one? Okay, Yeah, it
looks like, you know, BioShock without the heart maybe something like that.
So e a shit, mcgat my tense I then you mean tensex. Yeah,
like sensory right, yes, game number six. Mikey, what are
you feeling about Armored Core six Fires of Rubicon. Yeah, this is definitely
gonna get Uh. This is definitely gonna be the best reviewed armor Core.
It's gone big. I think I'm getting big shine. Uh. Even though
it's going to be very different from like a lot of what we associate with
from software, there's gonna be enough of just that presentatiou stuff that people are
gonna like. I think it's gonna probably the prettiest looking from software game ever.
Um, and I think because people are going to want to like this
they are going to forgive some of the Met game stuff that would normally throw
them off. I think this is probably going to do very well. I'm
gonna say a ninety one, okay, Jeff, Yeah, I I I
just I saw a theater demo and it looks it looks promising. The art
is very good. It looks like a big important from software game. Um.
I do think it'll turn off some players who want it to be more
like the other Frontsoft games, And then I wonder if the Armored core fans
are there'll be enough of them to like boost that back up. I'm not
gonna go as high as Mikey. I'm I'm gonna go within eighty seven.
I think I'm gonna go like Dark Souls like three area sort of scores.
Okay, that sounds all right for what it's worth. I am, you
know, infamously not a Souls guy, and I'm also not, despite being
to sci fi, a big like more hardcore Met guy. But this game
looks dope to me. I'm liking everything I'm seeing, so I definitely think
this one could hit. Got a really good look. Yeah, definitely.
Was that an ugly switch MEC game? The kind of came and went,
yes the game. I only know because I was the first game that they
launched a hory split pad pro. Yes, exactly the logo. Yes,
is that game out on Steam? Yeah? It came to see him one
year later for whatever reason, I should should try that and I should all
right, well game number seven. I didn't realized this one was coming out
in this quarter, So I'm excited. See if Stars, Jeff, Yes,
See if Stars is gonna get an eighty one. H I hope,
I hope it's like a ninety. These games always, I think, have
a lot of promise and then they're like, they're pretty good, but they're
not gonna be as I mean, it's an indie game, and as we
know, the press hates indie games. Oh yeah, absolutely punish Yes,
I mean the evidence is right. Yeah. I think that these indie games
that promise to like call back to the golden era of sixteen bit jerfpeges guys
actually saying indie games, you ask, we do we get a lot of
these games out. This is gonna be like Chrono Trigger, and of course
it's never like Crun Trigger. I think See of Stars is definitely the most
promising of these we've seen in and and this is this company that made The
Messenger, which I really liked. Uh yeah, Chain Echoes kind of broke
that trend of bits. So I'm gonna throw a little bit more faith behind
see If stars and say in eighty four, I think that's actually pretty good.
Yeah, like mid eighties is usually where these nostalgia players games tend to
end up south there. That sounds right, ye, okay, Game number
eight from Our Lord and Savior Todd himself got a Starfield God hour there should
I should say, I think it's game delayed just to really fun with people.
Oh my god, No, you can't do that. The reddit threads
might think about the rudder threads Jeff grub set that Stars this is hard,
you might I think it's me first. Yeah, yeah, this is difficult
because I feel like expectations are sky high after that presentation. I think the
fact that they won people about the thirtys thing, I think no one's going
to care about that. It looks so good if it can deliver on that
promise. And you know, we've we've we've had less, we've had pretty
quote unquote messy. Uh but as the games before that's still reviewed very well.
Um, you know, even like Fallow four, which I kind of
should on a little bit, It's still reviewed fine. Fall seventy six is
obviously an outlier, but Skyrim was a big deal. This should be I
think this should be huge. I'm gonna say in ninety two two got it?
Oh that's a really good guess. Um. Yeah, I'm like debating,
do I do I want to like have faith in in this game?
Last time I felt I think people really want to like it too. He
can help, yeah, And I'm like, I want now I want to
have faith in it. The last time I sort of like had this much
hope in a game, it was Breath of the Wild, and it's like,
man, then I got I like believed in that faith and then they
delivered on it and it was even better than I was what I was expecting.
Do I really think that's going to happen here? I don't know.
Probably not, But what's the harm in habit a little bit of faith in
that? So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go whole hog. And this
was not my person, this is not my plan. I'm changing it on
the fly here. I did have eighty eight written down here and I think
I think that number's way It's entirely possible. But I think I'm gonna go
with the ninety four. I'm gonna go with the ninety four. Yes,
oh interesting, Okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha? All right, Well
we're going back there away then, Jeff, you need to tell me we
think lies of P is gonna get Uh, I'm going to say a flat
eight zero and eighty four lies of P. I think it's gonna have its
fans. I think it's gonna be um, It's gonna impress a lot of
people, and then I think there was gonna be a lot of people who
are going to judge it harshly compared to a Frond game. Mhm hm.
Did you look at the woe long Metacritic also see that it got an eighty
one? Is that where you pulled that one up? I originally had eighty
one written down here because I looked at wo Long. Yes, that's exactly
right. Yeah, I think I think this is gonna be more promising.
That people really liked that demo, right, there was a demo, and
I think people like it. Yes, I think people like people liked it.
Yeah, they they liked it. More on they thought they would.
Yeah, I do think a great Jeff, there is still stealing on a
lot of these Souls likes that aren't straight up souls games. Uh, I'm
gonna be slightly more optimistic here and say, I don't know if I want
to be too much more optimistic. I think I'll just say eighty two.
Actually, I'll really hug up the Jeff on this one. Cool, Okay,
I think that sounds right to me too, because this is in some
ways it does kind of feel like that we're just talking about like nostalgia plays
and stuff. It's going for the blood Born, Yeah, hiding it a
little bit. I mean the glance test that's blood Born yep, yep.
All right, Well, Mike gets first pick, and I think he's gonna
like doing it on this one. Mortal Kombat one. Okay. I almost
wish I would second on this one because I think because I like, I
know some of the apprehensions of the fighting game community on this if that's going
to be reflected in review scores, I don't know, but I know that
some people are worried that movements seem slow, jumping seem slow, things like
that, things that I probably aren't going to affect on the scores. The
Lortal Combat games have been really good, and this one is looking really nice.
I think critics are going to like it quite a lot. There's still
there's still something of a stilling Mortal Kombat is there. I'm going to say,
I don't think it's good. Review as well Street of their six I'm
going to say in eighty nine okay, uh yeah, I'm writing that same
zone. But I don't I don't think I want to go lower because I
think that this game is going to pop off with critics in a really strong
way. I think it's going to be, like I gues, it's gonna
be cool to like Mortal Kombat again in a way that even even after eleven
it wasn't necessarily like it was still obviously there's a lot of people who love
it. I think Mortal Kombat one, it's gone. It kind of asked
everything going for it in terms of what a critical audience is going to like.
So I'm gonna go the ninety. I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a
ninety. Okay. Um. I think I think it's interesting because this game
people are of two minds. Because you have the people you know, like
Jeff you've been talking about you said you really liked what you play at a
stiff Yes. Then the FDC, Yeah, people are lukewarm on this game.
They're like it feels weird, like there's stuff they could iron out before
release. But as a Christian point on the chat, the FTC and review
in this game, so I think that's Jeff's got a reaction on a lot
of this stuff is probably how it's can end up paying out. Well.
That being said, we're at our final game for the evening. Jeff,
you're going first on pay Day three seventy nine, Okay, go on.
Uh yeah. I think that these games don't need review scories. Even this
is a game that's not gonna it's not gonna matter what how it reviews.
What's gonna matter is that word of mouth. And I think at launch it'll
be it'll have its problems. It's not gonna feel complete. It's going it's
gonna probably be a pretty substantial game in a lot of ways, but I
think it's gonna annoy reviewers in some very key ways, and so I think
that's gonna hold it back at launch, and that won't matter in the long
run. But at launch, when we're gonna have this review score, it's
going to be about a seventy nine. Yeah, I agree. I don't
think this is gonna be a game for critics. I think it's going to
review worse than paid eight two. I've thought even a little lower and say
seventy five. That sounds right, sorry five? Okay, Well, that
being said, if y'all in the community want to play, I will be
putting up a thread in the podcast producer's channel of the discord, which from
the remindering get in on if you go at patreon dot com, slash games
or become a YouTube member and you can play along with the boys here throughout
Q three. So that being said, if I get this done correctly year,
I do believe I can bring up a nice little summary for us where
the audio listeners, I'm gonna rd off to you at the end of our
predictions here game number one Exo Primal Jeff took seventy nine, Mike went one
higher at eighty. Pickman four Jeff one with eighty seven, Mike one with
eighty nine. Disney Illusion Island one of the bigger discrepancies here. Jeff at
seventy six, Mica eighty two three A little bit maybe. Jeff went when
ninety on Balder's Gap three. Mike went with eighty six Immortals of a VM.
Both of the guys were cool on this one. Jeff was seventy four,
Mike at seventy one armored cores six. On the r hand, they
both went high Jeff at eighty seven, Mike and ninety one see if stars
were somewhere in the middle with Jeff at eighty one, Mica eighty four Starfield,
the boys have faith and mister Howard ninety four from Jeff ninety two from
Mike, Jeff, for the love of God, wherever you're typing, please
stop typing. Sorry, Jeff eighty My Kawenna lit hire at eighty two.
Was that a keyboard? What was that? That's a gamer browser. It's
the gamer browser. Oh my god, it needs to make any Oh my
fucking holy mortal combat one. Jeff o win ninety Mike undercut, well technically,
Jeff overcut him. Mike went eighty nine. Payday three, Jeff was
seventy nine. Mike went with seventy five. So there you go. That's
the boys prediction. If y'all want to make your predictions, you can do
so after the live recording here. Uh, let's do this now, Mike.
Are there any of these games that I've defended that you gave a high
score to higher score two that if you going to embarrass you again? No,
there's no. There's nothing egregious here the game that you've been shitting on
for or you've been defending for a whole year and then suddenly thought it was
gonna do worse than me. There's no gollums here. There shouldn't be any
gums are red falls here. I'm not expecting it's weird that we had multiple
games in like the thirties last time. Um. I mean, look,
maybe Immortals of Avium will surprise us and be absolutely right, but neither of
us are, Like even have I ever talked in any sort of positive way
about that. We Honestly, I don't think about Immortals of Avium. That's
where it's at. Yeah, so I don't really have three. I don't
think about that. Yep, not at all. Sean, thank you so
much, Wolf Uncharted Wilf, thank you so much for putting that together.
We will have Benji Bop. Thank you, Executive producer Benji bop Kojima.
We will have the results for that in three months at the end of the
quarter as we're going into the holidays, So be sure to tune in every
week as we get updates from wolf on on what Me and Mike guests and
who was closest as we go along. In the meantime, though, let's
go ahead and get into our Mount Rushmore of arcades for it's games, unless
Mikey, you need a bathroom break. Mikey's bladders holding on? All right,
that's that's great news. This is what I was typing. I was
getting this stuff all said our mom. Yes, your mom is the number
one arcade sports games. So for people who aren't aware, occasionally we do
a Mount Rushmore. Uh. There, it broke that, but I can
fix that real quick. Here we go and there we go where we try
to pick the four most emblematic games for whatever we're trying to accomplish here this
time it's arcade sports games. Uh, you know, just like the actual
Mount Rushmore. Mikey, do you want to start us off here with any
other things that come to mind? Immediately? Yeah, NBA Jam, it's
pretty immediate. I know, you know, maybe there's like better versions out
of the future, like te or even hang Time, but I think just
base NBA Jam kind of covers it. It was this giant deal, huge
arcade. Hit was part of Midway just being the absolute king of arcades in
the nineties along Mortal Kombat. Still something I think a lot of people missed
today, specifically this kind of game. God, yeah, it's just absolutely
the first one I think of. Yeah, I'm right there with you.
I think the second game I think of it occupies a similar space, and
I think that's going to be the trouble with this thing. But NFL Blitz.
NFL Blitz is probably gonna end up on here. But it really is
just like hey, NBA Jam, but but with football. But I guess
that's what this whole category is. Yeah, it's all I mean, yeah,
it almost does kind of also have to be there. It was a
giant deal. It really was just this but like the next generation of kind
of arcade hardware and taking that idea to football. Sadly, when they tried
it with baseball, they made like one test arcade cabin Afford and it didn't
really take off. But Blitz is still so good again people, Miss Blitz.
I would love to have that now. Um, I do some questions
like like what what what is a sports arcade game? What isn't like we're
not talking about are we talking about things? It's like ten eighty snowboarding?
Is that on arcade? I feel like that. I feel like if you
could make an argument for it, yes, I don't know if it plays
you out, yeah, I don't know if it. I think punch Out,
I mean punch Outs literally started as an arcade sports game, um,
like racing games, right, Like that's weird, like that arcade sports like
a tone a USA like kind of racing games. Because you guys have already
done that's fair. Oh it makes sense and I think I think I think
that's I would have put that in separate category. Anyhow, here's the here's
the actual problem though. Next is that like we both love the NBA Street
Volume two and it's incredible. That's that too much basketball? I mean we
coul put it up there for now. I mean it really different now,
yeah, because it is. It is just kind of like it's clearly like
taking inspiration from NBA jam and it is like evolving that idea in a really
cool way and it's you know, really really really good. But yeah,
I don't know if we can get away of two NBA games off amount rushmore.
I do have some contributions here from the community, uh vs, says
Tony Oks pro skater one plus two obviously, and I'm uh, I'm one
with you. Where it's like, does that feel right for this category?
Is it? Of? It feels right? Because like I do think of
extreme sports as something different than Yeah, we sports, we could do a
whole thing about extreme sports games. Yeah, I think that's a different genre.
Okay, Um, well, then how about current basketball? Mario golf?
This one. I kind of do feel I can make the list.
It could, But then is that the right golf game because we have Neo
Turf Masters for the Neil Jo I think is really promising for that spot.
And then you know, I know it's maybe not. I see if I
wear one, But Golden Tea still kind of a big deal. It's still
a lot of fun Golden Tea golf, right, Uh, yeah, you're
right, that's like the actual arcade cabinet sports game that is forever, it's
always there. Um yeah, I don't like of these, Um god,
maybe the problem with Mario Golf is that there's been a bunch of Mario golfs
and maybe they dilute themselves a little bit because it's like, well, this
one has that, and this one has that, but none of them have
everything. Um. I think Neoturf Masters is definitely better than Goldtee. I
don't know how. Unfortunately, I don't know how many non Boomers know about
Neoturf Masters. It was one of my first Switch games. I remember when
the Arcade Archive game came out of a version for Switch about that and played
a ton of Neoturf Masters. I should boot that up. I love Neo
Great Masters. I'm gonna probably buy it tonight. Yes, it's on Switch.
It's great. It's like eight bucks when it's nonsters. By the way,
you're you're triggering MYOCD there and Neoturf Masters. Yes, okay, multiple
masters, all right, um Neoturf Master. Um. Okay. You know,
Jeff, people are always saying not enough Neo Geo representation at constantly by
the Neo Geo nites out there. Yeah. Um, you see that Epeid
is making a Neo Geo controller game pan just game pad. Okay, yes,
it looks pretty good. Okay, let me see some of these other
recommendations from our podcast producers. This one moves me a Technobowl or Super Technobowl.
I would probably go with Technobowl. I really this is the first football
game, and it's like right on the border between sim and arcade because it
is very arcady. But it is eleven on eleven. I think like they
do try to like make it feel like real football. Yeah. I almost
have to defer to you have been this for some reason. I was just
never much for technobole. Oh my anys sports games were actually baseball, and
even then, like I wasn't playing RBI baseball or like whatever the more popular
ones was. I was playing Bad News Baseball, which rules, but it
is just not popular enough to make this list. But I want to shout
out Bad News Baseball, you rule. I'm gonna put Technobowl up there.
I just already kind of looking at this list. It feels like it's gonna
be a tough sell to get that on it. So like unless you replace
a blitz with it, which maybe the argument, maybe it doesn't feel right.
Well, I feel like we will get yoed at. I think we're
gonna get yoed at if we don't have tech Mobile on there. We're gonna
get yoed at even more if we don't have NFL Blitz on there. And
I think I was literally named myself after a FL blitz. If you tape
off and favor a fucking tech Mobile, I'm going to ring you by the
next makes me want to do it more a little bit. Of course,
of course, zoomer Sean doesn't care about tech Mobile. This is a shocking
here. Okay, hold on, hold okay, sometimes sometime here. That
mobile was basically the football sim of the Ens. Yeah, it's kind of
where I'm at, where it's like kens. It's the best they could have
done for sim about the distinction. Yeah, it was Madden esque before you
know the Man series took off all round Zoe, right, I mean,
you do one hundred yard throws and and Bo Jackson makes it feel very ard
katy. But that I don't know if that was a conscious choice so much
as that was just what they could do. I mean, compared to Madden,
there we are, katy. But but compared to every other football game
on any yes, pretty SIMMI. I think Michael Larry has in the chet.
It's a sim but everything played Arcadie back then, so it's just like,
exactly the time, is there any like baseball game you would really considered.
I love baseball, but it seems to thrive more when it's doing more
sim stuff. I don't the bigs. God, I forgot about the bigs.
What I forgot about the bigs? I did like the bids? Uh?
Well, well, baby breaking news here that will check this, But
Connor would sit in a super chet that Eugen Naka has been sentenced to two
and a half years in prison, h suspended four years. Let's I will
verify this, Yeah, go for I was trying to look. Yeah,
I was looking it up and I can't find like a source for that shows
a tweet. Yeah, there's a tweet. So let's let's we'll continue with
this and then we'll try to shake this out right now, but that is
going around. You verify this. If he goes to prison for two point
five years, do you want to travel to Japan when he gets out so
we can greet him and have a big party with him and stuff. Jeff,
No, Okay, I'm gonna do it. I'll go by myself.
Fine, I'll go to Japan always becore. He says, hot shots Golf,
NBA Street, Mario Tennis the bigs. Hot Shots golf is pretty cool
too. I think you know it's so similar to Mario tennis. Uh,
like what what Mario tennis? By the way, Mario Mario golf. Yeah,
I just got Mario Tennis Mario golf mixed up. People still like Virtue
a tennis because that's the tennis game. I almost think of first Virtue of
tennis was fun. Virtual tennis is very very good. Yeah, I mean
of the arcady. I don't know if it's gonna fly. It's not gonna
make this list. I don't think. Um it's it's tough. People.
A lot of people in chatter say mutant League football, like that was never
my football game. Never mind, I wasn't a big fan of that.
Um honestly, like we're the from the Mario sports games. Uh maybe um
uh the Scott why is the name is giving me the soccer one strikers?
Yeah, maybe strikers, the one that kind of represents for all of Mario.
It means super Mario Strikers. Yeah. Maybe I'm trying to like,
what if it's not that? What is what is the other Mario sports game.
I don't. I mean, like what are the j GBA or game
Boy Color RPG ones? But like we like those more for the RPG things,
which isn't really very Arcadie, right right, yes, um, I
mean listen, I think that Mario Golf on the three DS is fantastic.
It's really good. But it's I you know, I do feel like we're
kind of iconic, right exactly. It's probably not emblematic enough. Oh um
yeah. Ryan Allen mentioning NHL ninety four. That really is very good shit
NHL ninety four rules. Yeah, it's been getting a glow up like that's
honestly, like back when I had a GENA says, I didn't know it
was supposed to be good, and now everybody talks about it. Yeah,
and it's it really is a ton of fun to go back to to this
day. They did a throwback version a couple of years ago. It had
a modern roster, but it was still just NHL ninety four and that that's
a lot of fun. I love playing that all the time. Time.
That feels like it could really make the list. It's one of those ones
where it's um it's a sports game. It's based on real league, has
real players, and anyone can pick up and play and have fun. Uh,
and that I think that's the hallmark of a arcade sports game. Okay,
do me a favorite an add Super Mario Strikers to the short list?
Yeah, yes, we'll do. Yeah, I'm sorry, there's no I
don't think there's any way NBA Street point two can get on there. It
just it just suffers from NBA Jam being a thing. That's every problem with
it. Yep, it's I mean, it's one of the best games of
all time, it really is. Um, but there goes and a type
of bowl is just going to suffer because my football is already taken. Yea
same similar thing, yep. I think so all right, moving can okay?
And then so, like, which one would you argue on to like
get in there with NBA Jam and Blitz right now? Of the short list,
NHL ninety four is actually the first one I go to of these.
And then do we um have the same conversation like that was a him for
that time? I don't know, because it I feel like it like they
were they were just making arcade sports games just because that's what they were.
It feels maybe weird to penalize them, to be like, well, that's
you know, a technical I get it because like compared to the other NFL
games at the time, it was it was like the most realistic for the
Super for the Nintendo an entertainment system for Genesis, NHL ninety four was by
no means the most realistic one there was definitely once they were trying to be
more. Yes, I think that distinction existed by that point. It's certainly
now people look back on it, they definitely describe it as more arcadie,
right, that is like, oh I wish it was more arcadie like NHL
ninety four, is what they'll say. So that's the one I would probably
put up there. And then I'm as, we don't like get further away
from you arguing it. I'm kind of buying him more on the Golden Tea
one. Yeah, so like I'm either one of the one of the golf
games. It's like going to definitely more popular Neil Turfbasters is better and still
kind of like famous yea. And again we don't give we never give Neogio
any love here. I mean, if let's say, if it won't take
a ton to get me to put Neoturf Masters on the I love Neoturf Masters.
I also like the idea of doing Super Mario Strikers, and it kind
of it represents the whole Mario side of things, and that's a big part
Marios. All these arcadie sports games, and you know, there's something about
Strikers where we maybe maybe the best one and kind of just a big deal.
Let's just to help people out in the chat again, because people are
making a lot of recommendations. We are going to do extreme sports as a
separate one of these so SSX and ten eighty and all that stuff. Yeah,
we're not really good. We're not concerned with these are our professional sports
leagues, the arcade versions of those for the most part, right, that's
what we're going for. Yeah, yeah, I think that's correct. Okay,
sports balls, sports balls. Let me read some of these other recommendations.
Let's see efficient lefts as golf with your friends is a blast, well,
well friends with friends. Uh. They also say Super Mario Strikers,
the game Q one, win jammers two. A lot of people were saying
win jammers. I don't think we have enough personal love for win Jammers is
too much of like a made up sport that's not even like a real sport
though. Is a fighting game? Yeah that's really cool? Yes, but
hey we get up again. Neil turf Masters compete the Neil Geo boy here.
Um Final Sports chatter saying we sports, which is like, yeah,
but I always think of that as like a completely different thing than yeah sports
party game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Final Fantasy people are
gonna hate these distinctions, but hey, it's our fucking show. The Final
Fantasy Wolf of five says, as a sports game hater, I can at
least admit Mario golf games are pretty fun, especially the original Game Boy one.
I definitely agree with that. Um and you face says NFL Blitz,
NBA Jam Nbastree Volume two and Burnout three. We did Arcade Sports Racers separately.
What about wrestling games? We should just do one of these for Mount
rushmore wrestling games that could be funsome Yeah, wrest I mean, look,
wrest is wrestling a sport even right, It's a It's a fine athletic endeavor.
But yeah, uh lots more Nbastree Volume two, Super Dodgeball Advance from
Buggadillo. JD. Camp says, we sports for its little barrier to entry.
But I don't know how a game with a shirtless warrior eggman and silver
isn't the goat and this is the yet Tokyo Olympics Games twenty twenty, same
shirtless eggman's shirtless wire unless each other is really fucked up because they have like
the same body, but then limbs, the limbs are just very different than
just has actual legs and Warrio only has feet. It is really it's like
two different. It's like a breed of dogs that you could tell used to
be the same and now they're just like, oh, we're gonna keep breeding.
These ones have long legs and these ones have short legs, and you
put them next to each other. That's exactly what it looks like. How
dare they include silver? Right? That is a disgrace. This is disgusting.
I can't believe that they even acknowledge that that thing is still happening.
Uh, Surface Canes is baseball stars too for Neogo the goat arcade baseball game.
This looks man, I never plated. Now I really want me to
bagdad to say love you? Do you ever? You do you have like
those? That's the usual. Like, I think that's the gamer midlife crisis
is I'm going to get a Neo Geo. Have you been feeling that fall?
Yeah, just recently I think as my midlife crisis. So yeah,
I've been like really thinking like, oh, I'd like to get a Neil
Geo. I don't know why, because not only is a Neil Geo expensive,
but then the games are incredibly expensive. So what am I doing with
my life? Exactly? I usually end up talking myself out of it.
Uh, I d Kevin, uh says Rocket League. Sorry, Daisy,
but I can't think of a better arcade soccer game to play here. Roca
League is a good pole, right man. It's just I don't know,
I never really thought of as an arcade sports game, even though like it
is again, it's kind of a made of sport. Again, it's soccer
basically, it's so extra. Though it's so extra I guess I always just
thought of it more it's just like a competitive e sports the kind of game.
I don't know. Yeah, I'm I kind of agree with you.
Matt Raremonk NBA, jam NFL, Blitz, Neoturf Masters, the Virtual Virtua
Tennis. Uh, that's good. See Dugan says a big buck Hunter,
I'm going I'm going literal on this one. There's like a documentary about like
professional big buck Hunter players, and I really want to watch I would love
to watch that. Uh but Bob Dolphus Bob Dolphins has uh Daytona USA.
Yeah, that's racing games already had their moment. I love Daytona USA though.
God. Yes, of course, just art something we'll maybe even do,
like arcade games in general, talk about Daytona there because yeah, yeah,
I mean there's a reason you still find Daytona machines pretty pretty much everywhere.
Man Arcade New New Barcades are gonna have them, yes, absolutely.
Rolling stock Razzle Jazl says backyard Baseball backyard Baseball deserves a shout, specifically the
character Pablo Sanchez that the gout. Yeah, I've heard about it. I
think I was like, I think I thought I was too old for backyard
baseball time it came out, so I missed on it. There's a Madden
NFL our Kid game that's yeah, I guess so, man, that's weird.
Uh Yeah, I feel like I saw that at a David Busters a
couple of times and then I was like, I'll just go play Woods.
Um let's see. But also, yeah, Mike Tyson's punch Out is one
where I'm like, it's almost like a rhythm game or a puzzle game.
I don't know, yeah, I mean right, it's not the first thing
that comes to mind, but when I like think it out, when I
talk it out, I kind of like, ah, yeah, of course
it is. But I don't know. I think a lot of people in
the suggestions saying neo turf Masters, which is almost like make we think it's
a bit more kind of known amongst the populace than I even thought. I'm
kind of feeling stronger about Neo turf Masters now. Yeah, and I really
I really love neoturf Masters. Um yeah, you know what, Like I
get like going toe is certainly more and you know, everywhere, but yeah,
let's get and I'm not a boomer, and yeah, they're just they're
disgusting bikini models they shove in there, and those those cabinets are always so
sticky. As a drunk people are spilling their beer everywhere. Golden Tea goes
on the Mount Rushmore of games that your friends drunk step mom plays and it's
like the only game she plays like that. Yes, that's that, and
big Buck Hunter and big Buck Hunter. Yes, it's like and they like
want to talk to you about it because you play video Gammy. I don't
care about this at all. Autobiographical there a little bit um Brian Rose says
when Jammers, Christian says FIFA Street two and of course got the three Golden
stars by his name. What Rizzo says, Wa Luigi's first appearance Mario Tennis
on the n sixty four Mario Tennis is very very good, very good.
I actually because we're playing Mario Tennis sixty four recently, just on on professional
Fridays for funds, and it was actually really good. So but but you
know, I kind of it's rough because I almost want to get a Mario
game on there. But I also like NBA JAM, NFL Blitz, NHO
ninety four, Neil Turfmasters as a list that seems pretty good to be.
I guess the one question there is do we do we actually need to midway
games on there? And part of me is like, yes, but I
don't know what do you think? I think yes, yes, yes,
yea they are arcades sports to me, like they defined it and then they
I think they earned two slots on here. And yes, it means um
that the Mario games might get left off, but I think that's probably right
for this Mount rushmore. I think everywhere else, yeah, Mart gets this
love everywhere else, and you know, those are obviously great games, but
I think ninety four Neio Turf Masters makes more sense. It is also I
do also associate this kind of era almost from this time and maybe not so
much even like Intil sixty four a bit less, even though Blitz is kind
of in that era. I don't know. I like this list though when
I look at it. Here, Uh, we got a good spread of
sports games different platforms, even finally giving Neo Geo some love. Um yeah,
I think like the only thing is like, isn't a NHL ninety four
sports game? Maybe people disagree. I think it is, yep. I
think it's a it's in our kid sports game yep. And this as usual,
we get to this point. I look at it like, that looks
right to me? That looks right, yeah, and I'm I'm really happy
with the Neo turf Master's pick. Actually, as as our as our who
we always say is at Roosevelt. That's the uh, that's the Roosevelt Roosevelt
about so and I think that's definitely a Roosevelt. Ya. We just got
a super chat from Shagir Miyamota, who's asking where is we support? Sorry,
oh yeah, we just yeah, Shaggy, you're gonna visit Usu Naka
in jail, gonna vote or anything? Come on. It's just like like
a fucking Nemesis and nimeses like just finally they got you and now I'm still
in the movie, right, Yeah, I'm gonna take over your life now.
I would love that very much. Yeah. To be clear, we
still can't really verify this everybody, but the Twitter versus saying that UNA is
going I can independently verify it, Okay, I did. I did the
research and I found the news article that you know, I had to dig
through the dregs of Twitter. But yeah's breaking news from TBS that Eugene Knaka
is being sentenced to two years six months in prison, four years of probation,
and two fines for his two crimes one hundred and seventy million yon and
two million Yon two crime. Eugen knackats what they call him from Free the
Homie. Look, I know, Bong Wonder World's bad, but come on,
have you really had to go to jail. I don't understand it because
there's way more than just two crimes in that game. Come on, I
can't believe you Nackets could actually be in prison. Oh my god, it
is um. I'm like, I would love to put make put out a
T shirt of him in prison, but it's as tasteless. And I know,
I know, I know, I know. I said I would love
it though, That's what I'm saying. I would love it just him behind
bars, like fucking Mario and Super Mario Sunshine. Uh, don't we already
have a shirt still up there someone's face? Who do ask? You know?
We do not? Actually I took that down that weekend? Okay,
collector aside on Rowe there go. Yes, I made my money, but
I mean, fuck um, all right, let's see here one more time.
Mount Rushmore of Arcade Sports is NBA, JAM, NFL, Blitz,
NHL ninety four and Neo Turf Masters. Uh. Feel free to kid,
Feel free. I like that. I like this too. Feel free to
yell at us. I would really appreciate it. Bet we're gonna get yelled
at about Techno Bowl and the Mario games and most probably the Mario games the
most. Yeah, I'll be I'll be surprising. I'll be excited to see
what people have to yell. Let's see. I Like, people say,
boomer list is there? I mean, arcade sports games is already a boomer
genre? What do you want? Also the like actual Mount Rushmore is a
list, like a boomer list of presidents, Like what do you That's the
whole thing, like, what do you want from us? Yeah, assumers
these days don't know who Abraham Lincoln is. Yeah. People people are saying,
like NHL in ninety four does that count as arcade sports? But but
yes it does, said it never cared about those mutant league games. Sorry,
yeah, sorry, And whenever they try to bring them back, everyone's
like, I'm excited, and then they never get their funding goals. So
okay, wow, charter Wolf. I didn't know that a charter Wolf was
a bad person, but they said in the super chat due to Mike suggesting
a goddamn Neil Geo game a console nobody owns. Jeff wins the Q three
predictions, Hey Wolf, get Yeah, no one owned what but guess what
it's in arcades. You could play the arcade Sports game in an artcade.
You've definitely played Geo you know S and K arcade games like that. That
was always the weird thing I like never understood the time, Like, why
are these new geo games so much money? It's like they're just the arcade
boards basically, It's Oh, okay, well, I guess that does make
some sense. All right, Mike, should we take a break. Are
you ready to talk about what you've been playing? Yes, let's get into
it. Let's just get into it. I we'll do that, then we'll
finish up the super chats. Although actually I think I actually did catch up
on those. I think the only one I missed because I just brought up
every other one as they came in. Uh was this one from the Andrew
thirteen? He says, mikey winning sexy Animals and going to the burg for
a baseball game during the Furry Con makes perfect sense? Now, incredible?
Um, all right, thank you for that. Tim. We glad we
are we're able to get all the super chats. Mike, what have you
been playing? I finally got to star Fantasy sixteen. How are you feeling
about I think everybody's been holding their breath waiting to hear what Mike Manati thinks
about Fantasy sixteen. Yeah, because that's all. That's the only opinion that
really matters. I like it a lot things great, It's really fun.
It's pretty well made. That's how that's why I'm on made. Yes,
Uh it's where are you at? I gosh, what's a good way?
Uh? Okay, not counting, Like maybe the intro sequence I have,
I did the second big Icon fight. Okay, maybe a good way of
putting it. Yeah, Like the combat is really good. I mean the
story is just really strong, and I know there's a lot of it,
of course, but I think it's great. I think a lot of these
characters are really cool. Obviously said Dolphus is fantastic. Even even Clive.
He's a good boy. And you know, that was one thing I was
worried about, especially when you talk about like Game of Thrones and Prestige TV.
I was worried about a lot of like moral grayness where it's like,
yeah, this character who shoved the child out of a window because he caught
him having sex with his sisters are to be like everybody's hero in season five
or shit like that. It's like, now, just I just want good
guys and bad guys, and this game is very much here are the bad
people and here are the good people. And you know what, that's actually
what I want from Vinyl Fantasy. Yes, that's fine, and so yeah,
it's like it's it's very easy for me to know what I'm rooting for,
what the stakes are, and also glad that even some stuff I was
worried about was kind of subverted. I don't want to get into spoilers there,
but it's more interesting than I thought it would be from some of the
marketing. I guess I'll say, yeah, it's it typically starts off very
much and again, I know you don't watch Game of Thrones. It sets
up as Game of Thrones, and then it very quickly. It's just like
we can't help it. It's gonna be Final Fantasy in a couple hours,
like like we just can't help ourselves. Of course, we wanted to make
it more like Game of Thrones, but we're not actually going to see a
lot of that stuff through. And I think that's one percent the right choice
because it's like they set up an interesting world in a way that I think
they were encouraged by Game Thrones to do that, and uh, there is
a lot of politics, but you're right, the characters themselves are much more
in archetypes in a much stronger way than in Game of Thrones, where it's
like they have to always be its constantly crossing different archetypes. Because these characters
are much more complicated for for the you know, the literature that they come
from. This is uh, this is like, yeah, you're right that
they are going to be the good guys. They are going to be the
bad guys, and the things that they're fighting for are black and white,
and I'm I'm very much into that as well, So I'm I'm enjoying it.
I have fallen off a bit mostly because kind of finding time to sit
down at my PS five has always been a bit of a problem. And
I got the rog ally and I'm trying to set up remote streaming on that.
I got it working up to the point where it's like and now you
got to make sure the controller is set up properly. I'm like, okay,
I got to download a separate thing for Windows to get that to work.
Stupid PlayStation just won't let any controller work and I haven't done that part
yet, but once I do, I will probably get back in the swing
of things for that game because I am enjoying it. Are you like upset
that there isn't a ton of rpgenus in the RPG? Are you worried about
the side quest things like that? So like no, but like all those
like big criticisms, they're all they're all right, they're all true. I
agree, there's not much in the way of like customizing your play experience.
Everyone's base going to play this game in the same way, except for maybe
picking like which cool down abilities they're going to have. That seems to be
the big variants there. The side quests are not very involved or interesting and
doesn't really bother me too much. I do get it. But yeah,
like I am kind of into this, Like no, like this is very
much story focused action game. That's fine. File Fancy is always doing different
things and maybe, you know, maybe the next one will be more like
a big open RPG, even if not a turn based RPG. I don't
know where we're going to go back to that, but I'm like really down
for what this game is throwing at me? And uh yeah, like the
production eyes are great, Like those big moments, they are really cool.
You know, this is going back to my level and Charted. I love
big set piece of moments right when you are doing stuff like that kind of
like even like the very opening right with some of it's uh let's say two
Towers vibes, They're like, yeah, this stuff rules. This is big
and bombastic and it is really cool. And that part has always been an
aspect of Fall Fancy, especially since seven. This is very much of like
what if we just made a whole game that was kind of just based around
making the summon animations for Papacy seven like the bigger part of the game itself,
and like part of the story too in a strong way. Yeah,
but it is you know, it is interesting, Like that's kind of where
we are with with fa Face to maybe some other games where you kind of
have to cherry pick, like which aspects are you going to use for this
game because you can't do all of it. So this is the one that's
really focused on presentation and story and some of that stuff you maybe do have
to sacrifice some of the RTPG mechanics and the customization and things like that along
the way. But yeah, but you know, it's just like christ Is
saying thirteen was like that as well. Yeah, but likes but then there
the characters, the story was kind of bad. So like this is just
immediately better because that stuff seems good at least so far. I've heard some
people have some Act three criticisms. We'll see if I feel the same way
about that. Yeah, I won't be surprised if I feel in the same
way Sarah's Wrath. People keep pointing that out as like a good point of
comparison, and I think that's right. It does remind me a lot of
a Sarah's Wrath when you hit those big icon fights. I do occasionally so
far, I'm still pretty early on because, like I said, I put
it to the side for a bit. I find myself getting a little bit
bored during the icon fights when things are dragging on a little bit. I
bet a part of that is they they're saving some of the bigger clashes more
it's interesting stuff for later into the game. So yeah, like the big
one together, it looks really there's like a section there where there's a lot
of just oh, this is a This is like a movie I'm watching now,
and they even calling them qute ease is generous, but it's almost like
to make sure you're not falling asleep behind the wheel, like push x now,
so the movie continues like Okay, sure, I'll do that. Wasn't
like bother me, but also doesn't excite me. How do you feel about
as Wilf brings up, this has been the talk this week. You know,
there's one backlash after another with the Final Fantasy Game. Right now we
are in the it's too easy backlash. I think that is probably right,
but I'm also not necessarily hating it. I remember being surprised early on when
I was in a boss fight and I went into the boss fight without a
lot of health and I died near the end of that boss fight. I
was like, pretty frustrating, mine, I'm gonna do that whole thing over
again, and it's and then it had a checkpoint in the middle of the
boss fight, basically at the last phase, and I was like, oh,
and I had and then I got all my health back as well as
healing item. So I'm like, oh, this is very generous in terms
of very generous and you get you get the feeling that they were conscious.
I mean, you heard so much about this was making sure where people play
a final fantasy, and maybe they go they went a little too far into
coddling there, right, Yeah, I don't know. There's like a harder
MODU unlock when you beat the game, and maybe you'll be interested in trying
that out, but yeah, I won't be interested in that. I can
I know now I won't do that, so it doesn't really help me.
But I'm glad it's there for people who want that. Yeah, and you
know, I thought the same thing about uh, that will make cry five.
To be honest, I thought that was too easy, and I don't
think I don't know if too many people agree. Actually this is probably even
easier than that, though. Yeah, maybe you know, we seem to
be kind of passed there. I wonder how hard Bayonetta three was. I
don't know because I didn't play it. Um three, I played a little
bit of it. It's it's it's not very hard. Um. I think
we're just too good. We're a pro gamer. Yeah, I mean I
am at a certain point expecting any sort of game that looks like this to
have more inspiration from front from from Software Games, and so I was like,
oh, this is weird. I'm like a little bit right because it's
fine, yes, because it's it's very much not so yeah, but yeah,
but even um, I guess, you know, I guess, uh,
it's funny Comparabi Prophecy Origin, Stranger Paradise. I guess that was a
bit harder. Even God of War Ragnrock was a bit harder than this.
But that's also like a game where you can run across like end game bosses
sort of just like in the miliar playthrough, you get tried to beat them
anyway, So like that stuff is going to be really difficult for sure,
But here it is basically all oops only main path. I haven't unlocked the
Hunts yet though, which are some of the optional bosses. Maybe there'll be
some difficulty stuff there. I have been mostly been playing with my rog ally
and getting that set up. It took me a minute to like just get
it functioning. A lot of games would not start, especially games from the
Xbox app. I found out that is because I did not set the time
properly, and so the time on the system was different than the real world
time, and that was triggering some DRM mechanisms, so the game just wouldn't
I click it and nothing would happen. Now the games are loading. I
played a whole bunch of Yakuza Like a Dragon accidentally. I was just testing
it out, and then I was enjoying it so much that I was I
actually just played a whole bunch of it. I really enjoyed that. And
yeah, I like that game too, and I kind of wish I didn't
fall off it, but I did. And it's hard. It's hard to
go back, and it's hard to start over because it's a begin, a
very story heavy opening, and I do I don't really want to do that
again where I'm at, So if, if anything, I would just go
and play Yakuza Zero or like the Ishan or something else. Yep, it's
um like I just got past that very story heavy opening. It is wild
how much story there is there, but it's also mostly compelling. It sets
up an interesting conflict and stuff, and now I'm like, oh, I
want to see what's gonna happen next. So I don't know if I'm gonna
have time for that game. In fact, I know I don't have time
for that game, but I wish I did because I'm enjoying it. Um.
Yeah, I'm officially doing a staycation in a couple of weeks here where
Oh I'm glad that week. Yeah, I think that we cant sent.
Thing is I'm just really catching up on games then, so hopefully I can
just like beat Final Fantasy during that week. Um, I've been playing more
Deal before and um, I'm definitely gonna beat that. I'm when I played
that season when it starts, things like that. So so'll be doing this
podcast. I could do any giant pump stuff you want. That's always fun.
But I'm gonna be working working that week, which is going to be
nice cool. I appreciate that. Um. The other thing I started it,
I haven't played much of it, but I kind of want to just
bring this up because I'm wondering if you even know this. This game came
out six days in Flujah came out. That came out June twenty seconds,
so a couple of weeks ago. It has four thousand reviews on Steam and
it's very positive on there. Ah. Gross, that's not what I was
expecting me here, I wonder who was reviewing those games? Hi? What
kind of people is there. So here's here's from a cup of coffee on
Steam. He says, God bless my brothers in arms. And that's a
review. That's a thumb, that's a positive review. Here's a war flower.
A positive review says love how it was team based. Oh sorry,
I'm actually that team based and there was not any just running gun. I
think there are people who are kind of going this without knowing the story behind
it, and some of them are like, oh, yeah, this is
actually surprisingly good. One person joined that it's not call of duty. I
think that gets the moving shooting gallery. I think it's a big part of
it. Yes, And then um Grace, who is an ex serviceman who
served in Iraq, has a lot of issues with it, but it's none
of it is like the problems with like, you know, the depiction of
anything it is. Hey, the AI is disappointing and things like that for
people people don't know this is the game that's based off of like an actual
thing that the deadliest battlefield in the Iraq War for the for Americans, Uh
right. And there's a lot of controversies about the ways maybe the US troops
handled civilian the way more iraqis died, and then this game was going to
be like, oh, we're gonna tell the real story and they and then
everyone's like the real story from who perspective, as it's just going to be
American military, Like no, we're gonna talk to Iraqis too, and it's
like, okay, well, we're pretty skeptical about your ability to do that
and your motivations here, and the game got canceled and paused a whole bunch
of times, and then for the last couple of years it's like, well
we're really making it. Um, yeah, it's it's it's It's always been
a strange one. I'm I've always been up the opinion of games should be
able to do this kind of thing right, But is this the right team
and the right way of doing this one? I have no idea. It
always seemed pretty sketchy that they were gonna be able to pull it off.
But yeah, I'm gonna try to play through it so I can actually see
for myself of what I think I'll staying. Well, I think that's where
most people are because I haven't seen any coverage of this. Maybe I've missed
it, But honestly, even if like even with like out all that other
stuff. I am. I am just kind of weird at about games about
these very real reset wars like I did not even want to touch called Duty
Wanta Warfares campaign. It just kind of weirds me out. I don't know,
it's it is. Um only feel is recent because it's been going on
since then. But the door did start twenty years ago. So it's like
if there was a game about Vietnam in like the nineties, like that's like,
which there definitely was. Oh no, I'm just old. Yeah,
but you're not wrong, because I guess I guess what, I really meet
his wars from my lifetime. I guess yes, I mean that's so I
totally get that. I will be surprised if this game handles everything with any
sort of deft fingers exactly. But well, i'll see because I'm curious.
Hum. Oh, I don't need to have the amount rushmore up anymore,
by the way, Oh yeah, thank you, I'll fix that right now
here. Just one more review. It's from Panic, a positive review,
and it's an asky version of of that Omega chad guy with the big jawline
stuff. Very cool, that's anything that says average average six Days in Fallujah
Enjoyer. So that is that a zoomer thing or like an embarrassing always online
millennial thing? Who does that? I gets think it's both. Yes,
yes, uh, let me fix your height. I moved you down here
a little bit. I'll do that please. People already think I'm short height.
There we go, fixing MIC's height. Oh no, it's just moving
me down. Fantastic. Okay, what else have I been playing? Oh?
Only up? Is that other one I've been playing? Oh yeah,
you're really bad at that. I'm pretty good at it except for every time
I fall down, and then I'm very bad at it. Um I it's
a it's a bad game that I really like, you know me how I
am about those kinds of games. It is that this viral uh three D
platformer from China that is made with a bunch of apparently stolen assets, because
they took it right down from the Steam Store for having a bunch of stolen
assets. It is back up now though, apparently, so they must have
fixed whatever the issue was. I um, I don't know. It's just
it's a good concept for me, just a it's like getting over it with
Bennet Foddy but instead of being in the little barrel and two D, this
is a three D game and you run around instead of being in a barrel.
I don't know. I'm enjoying it. I don't know if I'm ever
going to be able to beat it. I would have to really dedicate a
lot of time to it. I think I get that the cheapness is supposed
to be part of the appeal, but like you know, the reused assets
and maybe stolen assets. I don't really care if they're stolen. I just
don't like how cheap they look. And I like the fact that the voiceover
is clearly an AI robot, Like, din't you make enough money out the
lasting? Can't you just pay somebody to say these lines? Now? But
maybe I'm just kind of missing the point. Yeah, yeah, oh my
god, there really is just a reference to have been at Foddy's game in
here. Um. Yeah, I think that you are both missing the point
and also completely correct, because that is the proper opinion I think on this
is it looks off puttingly cheap. Because most people are going to agree with
you. I just this for me, this is it strikes a certain nerve
and I get into it and it makes me want to just keep going to
see what the next bullshit scene they've set up for me looks like. But
yeah, it's got weird physics, it's kind of half broken, but it
is a lot of fun to dream. I did enjoy that, and my
miserable failings were a lot of fun for people to watch. So yeah,
I was talking about your miserable failings always. Yes, you've been playing anything
else, Mike, Um. I did start FAM Fantasy four Pixe remaster now,
which is a bit fun. I've always been kind of down on FOM
basically four compared to a lot of people, and I don't know if I'm
really turning around on that. It is like it's really simple, even compared
to some of the NES games. There's not almost like six seaters, only
not that much in terms of like the RPG mechanics in terms of character customization,
like characters just who are who they are, and they learn new abilities
when they level up. I forget. Maybe that gets more extensively in the
game. We'll see. But so like all the Pixe remasters, once they
fix that, Fawn is Shoe actually look really nice. So I've been enjoying
that of course I've been playing more Street Fight or six just kind of right,
yeah, especially when, like you know, the battle pass got me
because like I played a lot more when the battle pass was almost up to
make sure I finished it. But there's like the new Rashid battle pass.
Uh, so you know, I am like pretty stuck now in the platinum
ranking. I don't know if I can really get to much hire than that,
but I still want to try to get a little bit better with Lily.
But at some point here maybe I'll try to pick up a second character,
maybe even try Rashid. I don't know, that's what I think about,
although there's a part of me that's like, maybe play a little bit
less Year Fight or six now so I can especially I want to beat the
Elbow six the Elbow Forres campaign before the season starts and then do that season
content with my brothers things like that. Um, yeah, sounds like a
plan. Uh did you pick anything up on the Steam Summer? So,
because I actually did pick a few things up. Well, you know,
I have the account, but I was like kind of looking around a little
bit and we got i mean hell Divers and that was that was people I've
always talked about it, and it's, you know, a co op top
down shooter. I get it. I didn't get it. There's so much
more going on, and that's getting really fun. I'm probably kind of missed
out on it. Yes, having friendly fire turned on and having it like,
oh, it's not just guns things wrong from the sky and it's like,
no, just get the fuck out of the way. We're not going
to make the game easier for you by doing that stuff. No, just
actually pay attention to what's going on. I love that kind of thing.
I love that the mechs are big and slow and lumbering. I love that
you got a duck if there's a machine gun that's shooting from behind you.
No, no, get out of the way, and like, do we
give you something to do? Duck if it's right there. I'm like,
man, all that stuff really again strikes a nerve with me where it's like
I like games that push back against you, and this one feels like mostly
it's not even push you back against you, it's just saying, fucking pay
attention. And I like that a lot. I mean, it was fun,
just like we're like the very easiest first missions. We were like kind
of fucking around a lot. Then as soon as it got slightly harder,
we worked like we're acting like an actual squadron, really like communicating, making
plans of like minimizing our like movementally, wouldn't get caught in crossfires things like
that. So yeah, I was really enjoying that. It was pretty surprised.
I think. I think the setup is pretty good too, where like
the missions are pretty short and so like when you do get in one of
those more difficult ones, it's like, well, I no, I just
we just got to get over a couple of these things, survive, and
we'll be okay, We're not gonna be stuck in here for a long time.
It's a really good set up for like a four player multiplayer game.
I did pick up some other things on the Steam seale. I don't know
why I'm going to play them, but there's just some good sales and some
games I've been meaning to try. I got Out or Wild, never touched
that somehow, Tropica six I've been kind of having a little bit of a
city builder craze that'd be fun. Sub Nautica, which again just never touched.
And then Return of the Obra Din, which is in fact our Gamess
Game Club it did win. Okay, all right, So I will be
playing Return of the ober Din here pretty soon. Game a lot of people
love I know you love it, a lot of Jeff though game. So
I'll be very excited to try that one out. That's probably the most I've
spent on a Steam sale in a while. Just been feeling kind of motivated
again, even though I already have way too much shit to play. But
again, I got the Staycasia coming up. Hopefully I can stream some for
fun and dive into some of these. I will be excited to hear your
opinion on ober Din. Just go into it and pretend your Colombo. That's
my recommendation to you. Don't don't. I don't have to say that to
me. Choice. Uh, Mike, remind me to tell you about it.
Another game I've been playing I can't talk about yet, but I'll be
talking about it soon everybody. One of the time. I'm interested you to
see if you have it. And then I played a little bit of Day
of the Diver. I get it. It seems very good. It has
a pretty good loop. Dave of the Diver is you're gonna dive down you're
gonna catch fish, and then you go at night, you go back to
your restaurant, your restaurant opens, and then you got to provide service in
the restaurant for your to help out your chef. And then the next day
you go back out and now you have enough money you can maybe buy stuff
to make you dive a little bit deeper, get more a rare fish.
That looks like the loop. I haven't played a ton of it. I'm
sure there's more to it than that, but that's it's a good loop.
It seems like one. I just don't know if it's necessarily the kind of
game I want to be spending my time with right now. It feels like
more like a game for a slower time of year, where it's like,
oh, I spend some time with Dave the Diver. But people people seem
to really enjoy it, and I have no complaints about it. It's just
now I wasn't in the mood for it. I guess that is how I
would put it. That's fine. I do have a few more super shits
here. Yeah, let's hit him and then let's get out of here.
Yeah, so doctor Ryan says, my gripe of phansy sixteen is the cut
scene to gameplay ratio is rough twenty mits of cut scene to walk down the
hallway to another twenty mits of cut scene is draining. Yeah, I mean
it is. It is definitely that kind of games, verry story focused.
Uara Wolf says, but you know what, part of me almost likes that
we do that instead of like just trying to do all that stuff like like
a God of War where yeah, I guess that's happening while I'm technically in
control and I'm walking, but it is just a lot of the characters are
talking while I'm walking, and I don't know that seems like a revelation for
a bit. Partment's like, actually, why don't we just do that stuff
and cut scenes more so that we can do more interesting stuff with like camera
angles and character motions and animations. I don't know, I don't know where
the balance there is. Chary Wolf says about Found Fantasy sixteen, lack of
hard mode at the start is my real issue. Yeah, I could I
could see that, ye yep. Riel Dogado says, can we raise a
couple of thousand dollars on a ten stock to get the angry video game?
Nerd in an investor call to rant and cuss out Nintendo. It will be
funny. I told you see angry come back, his stocks up. He's
an older statesman. Now he's respected. That's weird. Yeah, I'm glad
this pleases me. I'm happy for it. Oh and Ryan Alan says I
bought thirty XCX. Thanks, Mike, you are welcome. I don't know
if you actually say it's thirty xd X. I think it's just thirty x
X. I like to say xd x though it's funny. Wow, okay,
yeah, because is it funny? Though? Um, why don't think
you find it very funny? Apparently? Yeah, you're up there, Yes
it is. It is funny. You could tell by how much I tell
you it's funny. It's hilarious. It's okay, you're Ryan. Shouldn't pay
attention, Yeah, yeah, should pay attention. Uh that's it, though.
I think I think we're I think we're done here. Got a lot
done today. Uh sorry, there was don at ten dogs everybody, but
it was on the holiday and it just didn't work out. We'll be back.
We could have tried we'll do push in a recording, but it would
have been cult and we differently. We're going to do all of half fast.
So yeah, but we'll do on Tuesday. We'll just do We'll just
take questions again and uh yeah, we'll be back with some ninten. We'll
be ninten donging it raw dogging it very soon. Don't worry. That's exactly
right. Um, people people did jedied moss esday. Do you finished Here's
the Kingdom? No? But it is the game. I continue to be
playing the most. That is what I'm mostly working on, and I'm I'm
getting there. I'm just like continue cleaning stuff up. Before I even gone
to the Fourth Temple, I just also the things really happened where. That
is the game. Addie wants to be playing all the time now. She's
a big, big fan of Ink. She continues to say she likes Ink.
She likes Dada and Ink Cloves the only two guys she likes. Other
than that showsn't like men um, but she's been playing a lot. She
likes you. I'll remember about Uncle Mikey so that she knows. Uh,
but maybe she just thinks you're Ink as well. Um, maybe I thought
she though she thought every other bald guy with a beard was Uncle Mike that
we definitely had that era for sure, that definitely happened, not even necessarily
bald, but especially bold um. But I'm still really loving Tears of the
Kingdom, still easily my game of the year. Uh okay, mikey,
I am going to hit the button and then I'm gonna ask you, where
can people find you on the internet? Uh find me on Twitch and Twitter
at toe you know, on blue Sky at tolkoto, and I guess on
threads at Mike Tulkoto somehow the one place where Tolkoto was taken. I don't
know about this threads thing. I haven't posted on that. I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna even tried to invest in the until there's a desktop version.
Uh we'll see. But yeah, and go go to games Beats,
always doing stuff there. Jeff and I have funnel with a blight club.
Today. I made him play some Flintstones games. I've been in such a
Flintstones mood for some reason, because you're a boomer. Yeah, I don't
have any defense. There's no way I get justified not being bold if I
liked the Flintstones, h I am Jeff Grub In most places, on threads,
I am Jeff Bee grub grub because mine was also taken, like and
all of my like normal backups were also taken. Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, it's because so many people have Instagram accounts. It's definite right,
it's stupid. Yeah, I was a grub zero zero four seven, which
is actually what I am on discord now, after I had to choose a
name, which was my discord that was discord with numbers. It was discording
thought you were seven grub. It's a completely normal thing to think, completely
normal thing to say, very stupid, very normal thing to think that that's
how it would work. I am also on Twitch, Twitch dot tv slash
Jeff Grub. I'm gonna try to stream this weekend and I'll do a Q
and A and again. I'm gonna stream that live. But if you want
to ask a question, you gotta go to Patreon dot com slash I'll come,
okay, Slash game mess If you want to ask a question, get
in there, um be part of the show and stuff like that. That
would be fun. Uh, we'll probably you know, we've probably do it
Sunday morning now, but we'll see. I'll everybody know for sure, in
the discord. Uh, mike Y, you got a plans for the weekend.
You got what does the staycation start? And all that seventeenth. But
this weekend, I got a graduation party and an engagement party on Saturday,
and I'm going to the Youngstown Comic Con on Sunday, so if you're there,
might be there. My fund He's going to be at the Youngst Comic
Con the Can't Fote Fairground selling him the comics the has Whopper, which is
about a sort of environmentalist Batman that you're going look out for that has Whopper.
I think that's pretty cool. Least we were one of the name of
the sounds pretty cool. I thought she was going to just say pretty cool.
I forgot about the only party because she's about Yes, I say,
bad ass white girl joint, fuck your mom. I think I put it
in the podcast producers, and and then Sean was like, no, we
haven't done that before, because if we had, I would yell at Mike.
I'm like, I want, I wonder what that's about. I didn't
put in the group chat putting podcasts producer. I didn't even put it in
the podcast producers that were doing that. I just asked if we'd done it
before, and then I might have said I might have said that that sounds
fun. Yeah, it'll it's easy, like that's why we do them like
this, because it's like you could just think of some arcades, sports games.
Okay, I don't have the potty, so okay, you can go.
We'll get back into it. Then right after I get this, Okay,
did I make a thread? I think I did make a thread.
You just made a thread? And because I don't see it on the group
chat, no, I didn't. I didn't put it in the group chat.
I put it in podcast producers and then and then I made a thread.
Yea. So if any podcast producers are watching, please go to podcast
threads and put your submission in there right now. Well, these are some
good ones. Oh man, that's very good. Okay, we're bringing it
back everybody. Thank you for sticking with us. I thank you for nothing.
I got some super chats though, from the people. I do want
to think the people who gave me money. All right, I'll bring us
back in here in a second. Right, I thought we were back in
this. Wife put my podcast voice. No, I was, I was
doing a silence for our editor. Here. Okay, all right, okay,
let's get set up. Everyone who's watching live, thank you for hanging
out with us. If you're watching this later, this will still be in
there. I'll get set up momentarily and then we'll get back into it.
Let me hit to watch the stream button and then do it like this and
then turn off showing on video. Participan you churching first lights? You should
church the first live reten you click, it's like five bucks, five dollars.
Uh, this is this right, this is right. Let me just
make this a little bit. There we go. Uh, there's that,
there's mikey. We refresh. All right, there's there's the report. You
know that recording is probably corrupted, but we'll see what happens if it's an
right, it's it is. I think I do have this as in MKB.
So yeah, we're probably good. Let me see we're probably here.
No, we get it from the from the YouTube. Yeah, we'll just
get it from We'll grab it from YouTube. Yeah, okay, I'll bring
us back in. No, okay, I got so. I seen good picking