WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.480 --> 00:00:07.040 A passionate instigator and dynamic problem solver. Doctor Kevin ross Emery, the host 2 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:11.080 of the Doctor Kevin Radio Show. We'll be taking you outside the box, 3 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:16.199 behind the curtain and identifying the load of bs we are fed every day. 4 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:26.280 And now, Doctor Kevin. Hello, Hello, hello, and welcome to 5 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:31.000 the Doctor Kevin Show here on Home Times, where we're changing the world. 6 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:40.560 Wait for it one oh a time. Please, as always, remember that 7 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:46.159 this is a live call in show, So if you wish to share a 8 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:51.159 thought, ask a question, offer an opinion, as long as it's respectful, 9 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:54.840 you may do so by calling in at two O two five seven H 10 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:59.439 seven O five seven. Again, that's two O two five seven H seven 11 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:03.680 O five seven. Tonight's guest or you know, I don't call her a 12 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:11.159 guest. She's my revolving co host that comes and plays with me when her 13 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:17.879 schedule will allow. It is another none other than the Reverend doctor Lorie Powers 14 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:26.640 Auto you get full title tonight Baby, Yeah, yay, I figure at 15 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:32.560 this point, you know, everybody needs the kind of sort of tune in 16 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:38.040 on on what you're bringing to the table, especially for tonight's discussion. But 17 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:44.319 before we go there, for those of you who tune in tonight because this 18 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:48.280 topic interest you, and then those that just tune in every week because you 19 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:53.439 know it's always going to be interesting, as they like to say here on 20 00:01:53.519 --> 00:02:04.519 The Doctor Kevin Show. So, Doctor, Doctor Auto, how have you've 21 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:07.959 been, what's been going on? Let's doing your world share a little bit? 22 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:12.159 You know, as a revolving in and out co host, you know, 23 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:20.639 our listeners, inquiring minds want to do well. See I have just 24 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:28.520 been straight out busy as many of our listeners probably no. I am part 25 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:35.680 of New Hampshire Metaphysical and with that, I do at least one event every 26 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:40.039 month, whether it be our wonderful psychic circles, which I absolutely love, 27 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:49.400 love love doing, or our weekend psychic fairs that that are online for an 28 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:53.360 entire weekend and then then the one day in person. I will always be 29 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:59.759 at that one day in person love doing knows, oh my gosh, the 30 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:06.800 connections, the people, um and you know, just various different things like 31 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:12.000 that. But going along with tonight's topic, it's very funny because I just 32 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:19.280 started writing a new book, wholl tell me More, Tell Me More. 33 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:28.439 It's called God's Not What You Think. God's Not What. God's things either. 34 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:38.280 So you know, it's all fair in love and war and I just 35 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:46.560 started working that recently and what little spare time I have. Yeah, I'm 36 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:53.879 in to have it out by the end of the year. Good good, 37 00:03:54.719 --> 00:04:00.840 Well, that's exciting. I look forward to to dedicating a show once the 38 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.319 book is out and our listeners can get it to kind of talk about the 39 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:10.680 book and you know, kind of let them know where to get it. 40 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.719 So we'll be keeping an eye out. And this will be your third book, 41 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:18.079 correct, correct, it will be my third on my own book. 42 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:24.480 I'm very But what about you, doctor Kevin, what have you been up 43 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:33.439 to? You've been well, you know, so, uh, I first 44 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:40.319 of all, have I'm I'm launching something new in September, so I'm talking 45 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:45.920 about that on whenever it's appropriate on the show. I'm going to have a 46 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:53.279 communications course. It's called am I a Communication m I A stands for Mastering 47 00:04:53.680 --> 00:05:02.360 Intentional Authentic Communications and as a communication mastery class. The way that it's going 48 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:05.839 to be set up, this is a whole new format for me. But 49 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:11.120 I'm making lots of shifts and changes in my life for a number of reasons, 50 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:15.279 and this is going to be the first of multiple mastery classes that I'm 51 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.800 going to be turning out in this format. So what's going to happen for 52 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:25.120 the student is the student will sign up and we'll have a start date that 53 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:29.480 has yet to be determined, but only sometime in September in the school year, 54 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.040 and then they'll get a forty five minute zoom class that I've pre taped 55 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:40.680 on Tuesday right now is that's the working concept, and then another one on 56 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:46.560 Thursday, and then on the following Monday, they will have a live zoom 57 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:53.839 class with me that is just going to kind of review content, answer questions, 58 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:58.959 help them apply the information, and then they'll get the next class on 59 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:01.360 Tuesday, and on Thursday and the following Monday, the same thing will happen. 60 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:11.199 So it's kind of a hybrid. They get access to me and plus 61 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:15.639 they're going to get the material where they can do it before we get together. 62 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:21.199 So instead of doing like an older format of like a ninety minute class 63 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:25.680 where you go over the information and then you make time available to discuss it, 64 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:28.199 they get to watch it. They get to watch it as many times 65 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.439 as they want, come up with your question, take it in. And 66 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:38.600 so the first twelve classes is the first module, and that first module is 67 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:47.199 what I'm calling me versus the module, and in that the two it's about 68 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:59.879 having more mastering intentional, authentic communications within yourself. How could you have it 69 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:08.040 outside of yourself if you don't have it inside of yourself? And you know, 70 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:13.399 I'm sorry, what did you say, Laurie, Oh? I did 71 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:21.639 that make the yep? So everybody has a cacophony of voices sitting around in 72 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:32.160 their subconscious their traumas, their fears, they're indoctrinations. The experiences they've had 73 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:40.600 to have sometimes led them to false ideas or false police systems. But we 74 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:44.519 have all of these different voices, and if we aren't aware that we have 75 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:50.120 them, and we don't learn how to identify them, then we are inconsistent. 76 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:57.199 Because if this voice is answering this question and that voice is answering that 77 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:01.360 question, they may not be in integrity with who you would like to think 78 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:07.680 you are. You know, one of my big pushes these days, besides 79 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:16.040 calling out indoctrination everywhere I see it, is the very simple is truth equals 80 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:22.680 action that you will always hear that you'll always know what the truth is by 81 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:30.319 the way the person acts, what actions are they taking. And so a 82 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:35.639 lot of times, in over thirty years of working with clients, where I 83 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.519 make the greatest breakthroughs is when I get them to realize that what they say, 84 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:46.919 they think they believe isn't follow through in their actions. Their actions. 85 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:52.919 Say, there's something I sometimes sometimes I still do call it, you know, 86 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:58.000 like the man behind the curtain, the voice behind the curtain, the 87 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:03.279 voice that's in hiding that's feeding things into you through your subconscious which then means 88 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:09.559 you say who you want to be, but that's not who you're acting like. 89 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:15.759 So after the module one, people can move on and take the same 90 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:18.399 module, same setup, but then it's you and me. How do I 91 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:24.519 take this new found discovery and make all my relations better with other people? 92 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.200 So that's kind of the thing. And then the third part of it will 93 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.159 be retreats, what I'll do for small groups that have a similar theme, 94 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.759 like for couples, or it could be for a board of directors or a 95 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:46.240 board of trustees, it could be for a family unit, but it's going 96 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.879 to be this is the theme, and it will be a small intensive group 97 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.279 where we dig in and really apply. So I've got that on the horizon 98 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:07.799 and I'm very excited to go ahead, and I'm going to be doing several 99 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:16.759 of these mastery classes. I really you know, twenty four books in a 100 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:24.679 dozen DVDs in thirty plus years in I just really want to turn this into 101 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:31.200 I want to take and create stuff that at some point, and I even 102 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:35.679 have a couple of people that I'm going to be working with that can be 103 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.240 catalysts, Like I'm a catalyst to people taking the class. So if they 104 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.679 say, hey, you know, i'd really like to apply this, but 105 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:48.240 I'm struggling, I'm having some stuff, then they can choose to do some 106 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:54.240 one on one sessions to really make the breakthroughs. And so I want to 107 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:58.200 do that. And I see this as something that there will not be enough 108 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.279 of me to go around to do it with every person that takes the class. 109 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.840 So I'm going to bring in people that will be trained in my languaging 110 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:11.200 and the way I do it. You know, one of the things that 111 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:16.360 I'll be discussing is the wheel of chaos and other different concepts, you know, 112 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:22.600 and choosing people who I know are already grounded in the foundational same ideas 113 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.320 or they same values, or they see the world they do but they're going 114 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:30.799 to have to do it with my language to work with the people because they've 115 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:35.600 taken to class. So it's not like I'm taking somebody who says, hey, 116 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.720 I've always wanted to be a coach. I've always thought that I had 117 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.399 psychic abilities and wanted to help people. Know this is people who already have 118 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:52.679 established practices, established history, and all they're going to do is learn the 119 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.440 language of my system to be able to work with people in the terms that 120 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:03.360 they're being taught and worked with with me. Um Because I don't know about 121 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:11.360 you, but sometimes you you see these classes and courses and weekends and the 122 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:16.200 big kahuna on the front stage pawns you off to somebody in training that has 123 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:24.840 about five minutes of life experience and took a weekend class and doesn't know one 124 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.559 end of reality from the other. But they're suddenly going to be coaching you. 125 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:37.799 You know what I'm talking about. What you're talking about, the wannabes 126 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:45.360 that haven't really learned yet. You know, we see them all the time, 127 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:50.399 you know, certificate collectors or people who will take it that they think 128 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.440 they're an expert, but they're not speaking the same language as the person who's 129 00:12:54.480 --> 00:13:01.399 presenting the program. So you're really getting mixed messages, and that sounds like 130 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.720 what you're absolutely trying to avoid is you want your message to be clear, 131 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:13.679 concise, and to the point and consistent. Yeah, it's consistent. And 132 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:20.759 you know, part of the problem is information without application is useful. And 133 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.679 so many of these programs that are going to teach you how to be a 134 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:30.639 coach, and some of them go three, six, nine months or whatever. 135 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.399 One of the problems with them is the people either don't have enough life 136 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:41.039 experience or they haven't been able to take what they've learned for information and actually 137 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:46.919 apply it in a real and so the people that go to work with them 138 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.039 are their guinea pigs of figuring out what this actually means in the world. 139 00:13:52.480 --> 00:14:01.120 And somehow, I think doing, you know, five hours or ten hours 140 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:07.840 with a single person that your instructor saw you over with um doesn't really give 141 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:13.720 you a broad base of foundational life experience. I mean, am I just 142 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:20.759 being arrogant? No? No, because sadly you and I have both met 143 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:26.240 people that, yeah, they don't have any life experience. I mean, 144 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.320 heck, there's even some people that don't even take the course and then say 145 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:41.320 whatever, and I'm like, what training, what experience? What only thing 146 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:43.000 do you have to back up? So I just help, No, that's 147 00:14:43.039 --> 00:15:05.399 not good. Love that they want trained, knowledgeable, but well, yeah, 148 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:16.679 and give them tools so that they can incorporated and live what they're learning. 149 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:24.600 You know, I always look back that when I when I started my 150 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.639 spiritual practice thirty three years ago, that you know, I had started working 151 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:35.480 as a professional psychic when I was sixteen seventeen years old. I the time 152 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:43.480 to really work on and understand how my psychic worked and what it meant. 153 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:50.759 I mean, I was in high school going to weekly metaphysical groups to try 154 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.200 to understand this gift that you know, I've told the story a thousand times. 155 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.639 I'm not going to tell it again, but you know that, you 156 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.519 know, my grandmother told me I had when I was But having a gift 157 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:06.000 and knowing what the hell to do with it are two different things. And 158 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:14.039 you know, I'd take you that time and becoming, you know, to 159 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:19.159 understand things like to row and astrology and channeling and the different things. Well, 160 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.080 my gifts were kind of pouring out so I could give it language. 161 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.879 But then, you know, almost fifteen years in the corporate worlds, doing 162 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:33.639 training and working with people and personnel develop people development and training programs, and 163 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:38.360 also at the different industries. When I stepped out to create the Union, 164 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:49.039 I had a number of skill sets and experiences that collided together and were my 165 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:53.600 early clients, with some of them a little guinea piggish probably, but not. 166 00:16:53.919 --> 00:17:00.720 But I'd never hesitated to know I was bringing value to them that they 167 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:07.079 were walking out there would value if they chose to take it, you know. 168 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:11.599 So yeah, I mean, so that's exciting. And then I think 169 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:21.000 you and I are going to be playing. On August six, four pm, 170 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:26.920 I read a quick email and so, but you had talked about New 171 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:32.720 Hampshire Metaphysical and one of the things is that we're going to be doing a 172 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.000 new program. I don't know if it's going to be every four weeks, 173 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:38.680 six weeks, maybe every couple of months, I'm not sure. But it's 174 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:47.640 given it to the world and this is really for spiritual seekers, especially for 175 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:52.839 people who maybe just recently felt like their religion wasn't giving them their own pathway 176 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:59.440 to spirit or God, still loss, still disconnected, that have questions, 177 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:06.559 that know that they're looking for answers, and these are not answers that they've 178 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:11.000 been able to find. And there's a lot especially in the day of the 179 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:14.759 internet. You and I know what, Laurie, there's a lot of what 180 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:25.960 on the internet. I'll say here, we'll just say crap. There's a 181 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:29.880 lot of crap. There's a lot of people that are a whole lot more 182 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:36.640 showman than shaman. There's a lot of mixed messages. And so the first 183 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:41.960 one, August sixth, it's going to be free. We're just going to 184 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:48.319 reach out to people who may be curious. I think I'm going to be 185 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.319 on it. I know you said you were interested. I don't know if 186 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:55.319 that's a firm confirmation that you can do the sixth because we'll do another one, 187 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.559 but hopefully you can and we have somebody else because I want to keep 188 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.559 it to two three of us. But the topic is about am my psychic 189 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.440 and what are psychic abilities? And again, this is just going to be 190 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:14.440 a free Zoom I hope, I mean my Zoom program allows me to bring 191 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:18.519 in a hundred people. I hope that we have a hundred people that take 192 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:25.720 advantage of being able to hear how three of us talk about it. I 193 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:27.559 think I know who the third person is, but I haven't confirmed it. 194 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:32.799 What we have to say, and then we're going to be answering questions and 195 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:36.880 we're just going to give it away. You know, we just want to 196 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:40.400 get I just want to give people enough foundation that they're going to be able 197 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:45.200 to identify if and when they decide to choose a spiritual teacher or a set 198 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:52.759 of classes, that they have enough foundational knowledge and and so thoughts on that. 199 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:55.920 What do you how do you feel about that? Because I know you 200 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:57.039 said you'd be willing to do it, but we haven't talked about it. 201 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:00.200 So we're on air. We're not talking about it on air and invite all 202 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:06.559 of our listeners to hear our conversation. No, I love it because there 203 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:14.200 is an overwhelming amount of stuff on the internet. It gets confusing, it 204 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:23.279 get whelming, so and people need guidance and direction, but they need support 205 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:30.400 too. So like you know, when I started all of this, I 206 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:36.720 actually went to school to get a PhD in betaphysics. I went to schools, 207 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:40.920 you know, right, but you have to know what the right school 208 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:45.759 or right teacher. I mean I took classes at cources, I got you 209 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:51.279 know whatever. And I love that we are going to offer this for free, 210 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:59.400 get them the ability to find their own path. We're not going to 211 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:03.920 give a path. We're going to help them find their path. Both path 212 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:11.119 with intecrity, have their their needs and I just think it's a wonderful, 213 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:17.440 wonderful gift to be able to share with people. Yeah, and again, 214 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.039 I'm not sure how often we're gonna be running these, but I want to 215 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.000 be offering them on a regular basis, and I want them to be different 216 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:30.079 every time. I came up with the title and my psychic and a discussion 217 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.920 about psychic abilities. I don't know what the next one is going to be, 218 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:38.599 and may come from the audience and may come from another practitioner. I 219 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:45.200 don't know who's going to be on the panel. But when as a team 220 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:51.799 at New Amish Metaphysical we made the decision, no surprise, this was my 221 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:56.200 brain child, right that made the decision that we made the decision we were 222 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:03.319 going to go forward with it. You know, I said, because there 223 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.920 was you know, well, you know you're talking about two to three your 224 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:14.400 practitioners, but you know that we may not be able to find that one 225 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.240 happening. We don't find one. What happens is the date doesn't work for 226 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:19.319 anybody. What happened. I said, I'll do the damn thing alone. 227 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:25.039 It's not like I can't, but I want to give them. I want 228 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:30.119 to give them your perspective and another person, not just my perspective. I 229 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.599 want them to do that. So anyway, it's not excited about it, 230 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:45.599 definitely. So let's get into the night's topic. And I'm going to ask 231 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:49.319 you this question and we may not get it completely answered before we have to 232 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:59.440 go to break. But tell me what you know about the Reformation? The 233 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:11.799 reference? Uh, I don't know out do you know what I'm referring to? 234 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.079 I don't. I've been lost, but my mind has been shot off 235 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:19.400 oday, so I APOLOGI no, No, it's okay. The Reformation, 236 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:22.759 um, and I think it's been called I think it's called a couple of 237 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:26.200 different things. But it's when the Protestants broke away from the Catholic Church. 238 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:33.640 That's when the Catholic Church imploded and you had all of those religions spiral off. 239 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:40.319 Now do you know what I'm talking about? I don't know what I'm 240 00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:47.200 thinking that that wasn't it time totally? You know, those things happen and 241 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:52.160 they've happened in every religion that we know of, where people have branched off 242 00:23:52.200 --> 00:24:00.279 because they're beliefs or their ideologies or their needs have changed, right, didn't 243 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:07.519 it. So whatever they started with doesn't fill their needs anymore, doesn't feel 244 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:11.839 right to them anymore. And I don't have a problem with that. But 245 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.279 it's the problem that I have is there's no then all of a sudden, 246 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:22.160 you're right and you're wrong, and I have a huge problem with it. 247 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:34.480 So the interesting thing about the Reformation, and I feel like we are back 248 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:42.359 in a way almost in the energy of the Reformation in some ways. But 249 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:51.720 the thing I always found fascinating about that period of history was, you know, 250 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:57.319 for over a thousand years, you had you know, you had your 251 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:04.119 Asian religions, you had Muslims, and you had your Catholics, and then 252 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:11.160 you had little indigenous tribes that most of the time we're getting swallowed up, 253 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:18.599 converted by the sword, forced to give up their their belief systems within pagan 254 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:25.519 but you know, and and then always waving through there, we've got the 255 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:32.119 Jewish faith, which, for people who don't maybe aren't aware of it, 256 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:45.599 Judaism is the father of both Islam and Christianity, and so in that part 257 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:56.119 of what made that unique is that the Catholic Church had brutally kept power and 258 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:07.799 incited violence and killing. They were so corrupt at the time they sold indulgences. 259 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:18.000 They there was no real god kindness left in the church structure. The 260 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:26.319 kindness came on the priests and the monks and the nuns who who had a 261 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:33.279 personal calling, and we're out there doing the work. But the organization itself 262 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:40.079 had got rotten to the core and was, you know, and we're burning 263 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:45.920 people at stakes and killing them and doing all sorts of horrendous things. And 264 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.759 you had in a very short time all of these other religions pop up, 265 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:57.319 the Protestants, which is the protest the protest religions. Protestants protest we are 266 00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:06.559 protesting the Catholic Church. And that they pushed it back against the corruption. 267 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.880 Everybody lost faith and trust in the Catholic Church, or not everybody, but 268 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:19.680 all of those people that broke into all of the modern day Protestant religions completely 269 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:26.319 lost faith in the Catholic Church and its ability to be the holder of the 270 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.599 will of the Christian God. So does that make sense when I say that, 271 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:38.319 Yeah, no, and then that is a fret so thin. That 272 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:49.000 is a historical fact. Yeah so, and one of the modern day religions 273 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:55.079 that that came out of it. And you're going to have to come back 274 00:27:55.119 --> 00:28:00.039 after break to find out which which religion in my high life in this next 275 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:15.920 sentence. 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We just ask that they'd be respectful. 299 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:38.240 I'm here today with the Reverend Doctor Lorie Powers Auto and we are just digging 300 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.160 into the topic of the day. After a little chat in the first part 301 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:49.680 of the show about what's going on in our world and some upcoming exciting events 302 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:57.079 a July twenty second in person Psyche Fair in Nashua. That same weekend, 303 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:03.480 we will be doing an online face where readers will be available at fair rates 304 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.400 to hop on a phone or a zoom with you, and then in person 305 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.400 readings. And on Saturday night we'll be doing Voices from the Void where three 306 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:22.200 of us are going to give you a buckle your seatbelt spiritual night of God 307 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.920 knows what, and God's not telling us yet, but show it up. 308 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:30.319 If you're a spiritually adventurous person, I know there's probably there's going to be 309 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.119 some meditation, there's going to be some potential drumming, there's going to be 310 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.759 some spirit art, there's going to be some psychic messages. That may be 311 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:45.000 some channeling, but it's kind of the people who show up will determine how 312 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:51.759 Spirit wants us to best serve them. Well, there's a concept you just 313 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:53.880 open up and say, Hey, Spirit, what do I need to hear 314 00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:59.880 or learn? The Spirit says, show up at Positive Street Arts in Nashville, 315 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:05.039 New Hampshire at six thirty seven twenty two and you'll get your answer there. 316 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:15.119 Pay attention so you don't miss it. All that said, the one 317 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:22.480 religion that came out and didn't come out as a religion but really was part 318 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:29.200 of the Protestant Reformation and the separation and the breakdown of the Catholic Church as 319 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:42.400 being the all powerful owner rights on the Jesus on the Jesus Mobile is that 320 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:47.960 science. Modern science came out of that time, and modern science came out 321 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:55.799 because they lost faith in the Catholic God. But they wanted to prove that 322 00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:05.880 God existed through intellectual exploration, Like they wanted to study and understand the miracles 323 00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.559 that God created in the form of the human body, in the form of 324 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:16.720 the environment, the nature, animals, that some great power created all of 325 00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:29.200 this fascinating and highly even now mind blowing complexities of how things work and interrelate. 326 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:36.759 That science is still discovering new things every day, six hundred, five 327 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:43.519 hundred, six hundred years later, we still are just every day proving that 328 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:47.480 there is some kind of supreme intelligence, whatever you wanted to call it. 329 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:52.480 It wasn't more until like the late eighteen hundreds that science started to dip into 330 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:59.599 the Oh, we're gon we're gonna prove God doesn't exist. But you know, 331 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:02.079 science went the same way of the Contholic Church at that point and went 332 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:08.239 into a place of arrogance where it became about the egomaniacs of the church being 333 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:15.960 ingomaniacs and science who forgot what their real missive was was to know the mind 334 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:22.199 of God by studying all that God created and expanding ourselves. I know you 335 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.960 realize that. But any thoughts on that before I move on, No, 336 00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:34.480 that's that. It's also part of part of my book because that it's exactly 337 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:44.440 what happened, and and the science is starting to change again, back to 338 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:53.760 proving that God exists, that God is, that God is, but through 339 00:34:53.880 --> 00:35:04.559 science were we might be changing our definition of You know so, I but 340 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.239 you're right, I mean science came out of that, out of the Reformation, 341 00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:14.440 started out with the best intentions, got lost on his way, power 342 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:21.280 ego all took over, and now they're starting to come back. Well, 343 00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:35.800 so one of the things here is that we have come I call it to 344 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:44.119 you know, we're in another rounder version of the Death of the Dinosaurs. 345 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:52.920 And really the Reformation it didn't kill the Catholic Church, but it made it 346 00:35:53.000 --> 00:36:00.159 evolved. If it was going to stay at all relevance, it may not 347 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:07.280 have involved a lot, but it did change that church, and the Protestants 348 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.920 came out, and of course I come. I spent last week at the 349 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:17.280 Unitarian Universalist General Assembly. As we evolve, Universalists never believed in a hell. 350 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.880 They didn't believe in a God that would create a hell. The Unitarians 351 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:27.679 did not believe in the trinity. That you know that there was a single 352 00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:32.159 connective unit that ran through all of man, all of humanity, that we 353 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:37.920 were all one at the core, no matter who we worshiped, we were 354 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:45.880 still all one at the core. And so here what's happening is we're going 355 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.920 through a death of the dinosaurs. And part of what I want to talk 356 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.840 about in the rite up. I don't know how much you laughed when you 357 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.960 saw it, but the number of churches that are buying a one way ticket 358 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:05.599 to Hell in a hand ask it is astonishingly, astonishingly large. But I 359 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.960 think we're starting to see their numbers getting smaller. Which are your fundamentalists, 360 00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:19.840 as Papa called them, your religious nut cases, your whack jobs. Share 361 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.280 some thoughts on that, Well, you mean the ones that they're the only 362 00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:32.679 ones right according to them, their way or the highway, and everybody else 363 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:38.760 should die those ones you're talking about and talking about the hypocrites, And we 364 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:45.199 go back to the place where I started, the truth. You see truth 365 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:51.519 in action. And I challenge anybody that calls themselves a Christian that is preaching 366 00:37:51.519 --> 00:38:00.199 a doctrine of hate, a hypocrite that is you know, that is you 367 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:05.360 know, you've heard me through the years call them Bible bullies. The minute 368 00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.159 that you know, Jesus got off the cross, they broke the cross and 369 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:15.039 the bat size pieces and started beating people with it. But these are the 370 00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.760 egomaniacs that are in charge. These are the cult leaders. And of course 371 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:23.639 we just we just we had just recently a president who only became president because 372 00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:31.559 he was a cult leader, locking into deep primal fears of a group of 373 00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:39.239 people who are afraid that they're the dinosaurs that are dying right right, Well, 374 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:45.199 you know what, those people aren't wrong in that respect. They are 375 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.719 the dinosaurs that are going to die because they just they refused to evolve, 376 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:59.039 They refused to they refused to love. They don't even love themselves. And 377 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.119 I'm sorry, first of all, you cannot call yourself a Christian if you 378 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:08.320 don't live in the virtue of love. You just and all those people that 379 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:14.639 that do in the spouse hate and limitations and you know, let's, you 380 00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.400 know, let's make people give birth to babies, but let's you know, 381 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:21.559 not feed them, clothe them, educate them. And whose cares to someone 382 00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.599 kills them with you know, an automatic weapon. Those are not Christians. 383 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:31.000 Those are all hypocrites, Those are liars. Those are I want to say, 384 00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:39.840 well, you know, and this is one of my other favorite or 385 00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.800 it seems to be one of my favorite things these days, which I'm talking 386 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:47.519 a lot about, either in classes or when I speak or even with privately 387 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:57.639 with clients, is identifying, recognizing and calling out the level of indoctrination that 388 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:06.199 these cult members, which are your fundamental Christians, you're the only way Christians. 389 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:15.159 You're the eratic hate, the transgendered Christians, the ones that are appreciating 390 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:22.280 hate, the ones, yeah, who have completely picked and chosen. I 391 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.440 saw this interesting thing. There was a meme that I saw and I just 392 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.599 loved it, and I grabbed it and at some point I'll probably share it. 393 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:36.320 But it's just like, you know, you know, somewhat have talked 394 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:40.599 of young guy in the meme, and you know, and he is pointing 395 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:51.800 out the fact that it was um. I was born a sinner too. 396 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.440 My sin is mentioned in the Bible twenty five times. I tried to change 397 00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:00.960 but couldn't. Luckily, society learned to accept us left ended people, right, 398 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:12.920 Nicholas FARRONI yeah, hey, man, go ahead. As someone who 399 00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:19.360 is left handed, my very failure was and it was amazing at even as 400 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:27.400 a child, the sideways looks that you're less sand, you shouldn't exist. 401 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.320 You're someone said I was a spawn of the devil. That's what I was. 402 00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:37.239 Less. Now I'm a time. You know, I'm a child of 403 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.119 love. I'm a child of God. I you know. But you know 404 00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:50.480 that narrow mindedness has no place in this world. It just has no place 405 00:41:50.519 --> 00:42:00.199 in this world. But I'm sorry, Yeah, well you're so. I 406 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:09.159 wasn't raised Christian. I have Christian family members. I even have some of 407 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:17.239 the more fundamentalists Christian family members, and that's their journey. But I recognize 408 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.440 them as indoctrinated, because indoctrination means you're taught to not think for yourself. 409 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:28.360 You're taught to not ask questions, You're taught to just accept what's being said 410 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:37.760 and follow like sheep right, and the level of indoctrinations in some of these 411 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:46.800 And I have worked with recovering Catholics, recovering Muslims, recovering fundamentalists, recovering 412 00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:53.480 Mormons, and I mean this indoctrination goes back to the womb. Yes, 413 00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:07.480 And you're go ahead and terrifying. And it's terrifying because they're afraid to question, 414 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.159 They're afraid to think, they're afraid to have agency. They have been 415 00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:20.480 convinced that they do not have the mental capacity. They're treated like children that 416 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:27.639 have to be you know, herded their whole life, or they will they 417 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:34.440 will fall to sin. And as I've shared before, and I got this 418 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:39.519 actually from somebody else who used to be my business partner and my significant other 419 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:46.559 for seven years. Sin self imposed negativity. Si. N. That's all 420 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:53.840 sin is self imposed negativity. Yeah, but anybody who is obsessed with sin, 421 00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:05.039 is feeling is living a guilt a ship life. Yep. And can 422 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:09.400 I I don't understand that as as a record, as someone who grew up 423 00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:19.239 a Christian, as someone who studied all of this, I don't understand someone 424 00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:28.519 think that God would give them pretty will that punish them for you? How 425 00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:30.800 you know. If you don't, you know, put the spoon on the 426 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:37.559 freck side of the plate, You're going to hell. Hell, jay walk, 427 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:43.000 they're going to health. I mean, it's silly. And the sad 428 00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:49.280 part is for many of those people that are living in that indoctrinated reality, 429 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:59.039 they're already living in hell. Yeah, they're uncreated. Yeah, because let's 430 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:07.000 face it, you can't. You can't, you know, especially the ones 431 00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:12.360 that get really like even if you think it it's a sin. No, 432 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:22.559 thinking is not a sin, right right, right, it's yeah. But 433 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:28.480 one of the things that the Catholic Church did at that time before the Reformation 434 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.000 and even somewhat after the Reformation, but as it was going on, besides 435 00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:37.400 trying to burn as many of the leaders of the Reformation as possible or their 436 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.480 followers burnam at stakes or punish them or whatever was, they went after scientists 437 00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:52.480 because scientists were inviting people to think and in and the church didn't want thinking 438 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:58.920 members. They don't want questioning members. And we see that today when I 439 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:00.519 hear terms like whoa, it's like yep, and it's a good thing. 440 00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:06.119 We want you awoke, we want you awakened, we want you present, 441 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:15.320 we want you participatory. We want you questioning, we want you evolving and 442 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:22.039 they and evolving is the um a Tiffany. I'm not pronouncing the word right, 443 00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:30.920 but it's the polar opposite of what these nutcases, indoctrinated cultish pseudo Christian 444 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:37.920 religions are preaching exactly. And that's what, that's what that's so hard though. 445 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:45.280 They're afraid. They're afraid that if enough people start thinking, they will 446 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:52.599 the dinosas and hopefully they will. I mean, I do feel that more 447 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.480 and more people are awaking every day, more and more people are starting to 448 00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:05.960 question and change the sale their mindset. We're becoming more welcoming and more loving 449 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:13.519 because that was all bright out of us over the years. It wasn't that 450 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:19.280 long ago when Sea and Italian couldn't marry a Spanish person, or you know, 451 00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.920 a black person to mary white person. That wasn't that long ago. 452 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:31.760 It was within my lifetime, right, yeah, And that they hate, 453 00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:39.079 you know, I mean, it's it's it gives me hope. It gives 454 00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:45.840 me hope that we are growing. But they're they're grass in their last breath. 455 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.519 They're they're fighting to keep their foot in the door. And I'd say 456 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:54.719 we shoved them all out of the door and shut it and just have love 457 00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:04.000 and understanding and cooperation and you know, support each other and be there together. 458 00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:15.719 So you know, one of the things here, Lorie, is that, 459 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:22.880 um, what are the ideas that came up with? And we know 460 00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:30.559 that crazy doesn't even begin to describe when it comes out of my head, 461 00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:37.800 right, but I want to invite you know, so, first of all, 462 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:43.519 Unitary Universalism, the Reside belonged to was a Christian based religion until nineteen 463 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:47.079 sixty and sixty one. When they came together. They had already been the 464 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:54.360 people that the birth of the humanist movement and all of that stuff, and 465 00:48:54.480 --> 00:49:00.719 they were struggled. There was there've already been a lot of struggles, but 466 00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.960 they decided that they were a religion that welcomed Christians but was not limited to 467 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.440 Christians, but it was open to everybody. That that's what it should be. 468 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:15.480 And of course your modern you you church has some denominations that are much 469 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.360 more Christian. There are some that aren't really Christian at all. There's some 470 00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:25.119 that are very you know, they welcome you know, Pagans and Wickens, 471 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:31.840 and you will find Jewish and Druid and you will find Buddhists, and you 472 00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:40.000 will find them all happily coming together based around the principles of unitarian universalism, 473 00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:42.880 which I'm not going to go over all of them, but I'm just going 474 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:47.239 to say the first one is the inherent worth indignity of all people. That 475 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.480 they asked that you to be unitary universalists and to be incomitent with us, 476 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:59.880 that you recognize the inherent worth indignity of all people. That all people, 477 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:13.159 but not just the ones you like. Underlying all yeah and so, but 478 00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.760 so, sometimes it's hard for me as somebody who was not raised Christian, 479 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:22.119 not that I haven't been, had had my occasions where I have had Christians 480 00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:28.400 try to spiritually abuse me. Um. I feel sad for lots of people 481 00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.519 who I've helped, and I know you have helped people like this too, 482 00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.320 who have had God taken away from them as a word, because it's so 483 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:47.039 traumatic have are you know, are traumatized by by Jesus. Because Jesus loves 484 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:52.519 you means I'm going to beat the crap out of you and be critical of 485 00:50:52.639 --> 00:51:00.360 you and tell you how undeserving you are. I mean, another day, 486 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.639 another story, and we're going to run out of time. But someday I'll 487 00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.480 tell the story about going to church with my mother and she never invited me 488 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:19.559 again afterwards. But I have an invitation, and it's an invitation to people 489 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:23.679 who see themselves as actively Christian, that feel like they're living the Christian message 490 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:34.760 that they believe that in living it, Christian in action. I think the 491 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:39.880 group should be called Christian in Action, the CIA, the religious CIA, 492 00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:45.800 and I would like them to see them take Christianity back. I would like 493 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:54.119 them to start unifying and going against what is a minority of Christianity. It's 494 00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:59.079 still a minority, the nutcases. Even with these big mega churches, if 495 00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:04.280 you look at all the number, there's still the minority, and that they 496 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:09.480 need to push back as a cohesive unit of people that are actually living christ 497 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:16.360 like life and say we do not recognize you as a Christian religion, you 498 00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:23.679 do not act in Christian ways. And but I you know, this is 499 00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:30.519 one of those where I really think it's got to be the Christians that throw 500 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:39.920 out these deviants, these cultists, these egomaniac these hate mongers. And so 501 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:45.920 I'm inviting my listeners to take my idea. If you are a Christian, 502 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.840 I support and applaud you being a Christian. If you are a Christian in 503 00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:55.199 action and you feel like the message of Christ is sacred to you, then 504 00:52:55.400 --> 00:53:01.440 how can you sit back and let other people use it. You need to 505 00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:06.599 call them out. You need to start to recognize, you need to start 506 00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:09.880 to push back. You know, the whole thing with the Southern Baptist that 507 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:15.559 got rid of three congregations because they had women pastors, because women are not 508 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:22.079 suited to the ministers, even though one had been a minister for over thirty 509 00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:27.239 years of a very successful congregation. This is the desperate act of a dinosaur. 510 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:38.960 Yes that some of the earls, good ahead, sorry, good, 511 00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:45.000 go ahead, some of the good now, go ahead, go ahead. 512 00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:53.440 Hey, some of the earliest preachers or pastors were women. The one two 513 00:53:53.480 --> 00:54:00.920 were in the communities and in the villages. Most a lot of them were 514 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.079 women to start with. So this whole thing about women not being able to 515 00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:16.480 be pastors or reverends and whatever is just a desperate thing for power. Yes, 516 00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:22.039 and it gets more and more ludicrous. And all we can hope for 517 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:34.599 is more and more people who are actually living a christ Like nature, who 518 00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:43.480 are Christians and actions that they will rise up pushback, speak out. They 519 00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:46.199 should be the ones that go step in front of them, not cases. 520 00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:54.320 When they're attacking the transgendered and attacking the drag queens and attacking the immigrants. 521 00:54:54.679 --> 00:55:00.400 Oh my god, there is nothing anymore anti Jesus than deciding to act the 522 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:09.519 immigrants right right like, this is such a blaring hypocrisy that you have to 523 00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:14.920 be a blind man not to see it. But as Poffar always said, 524 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:21.360 there are none so blind as those who choose not to see. Yeah, 525 00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.280 so that's what I want to start, not I. It's not my battle. 526 00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.760 These are not my nut cases. I have my own nut cases to 527 00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:38.559 deal with. That takes the lane I travel in and turn it around and 528 00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:45.519 try to form cults and do judgment. Marie, thanks for coming. Thank 529 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:52.400 you, Doctor Kevin. Next week, Matt Connerton will return and we'll talk 530 00:55:52.440 --> 00:56:15.760 about what's going on in the political world here on The Doctor Kevin Show.