M The following presentation is a Del Margat Studios production. Welcome back to truth
seekers from around the world. It's time for another edition of the flat Earth
Files. I hope this podcast finds you well. This podcast is dropping on
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joining us is G. She reached out a few weeks ago and just left
some really interesting words a lot of homeschool and you know, God and of
course the flat Earth, and I think we're going to have a real tremendous
conversation about that and many many other things. So again, without any further
Ado, let's bring G on the show tonight. Gee. How are you
Hi? I'm good, How are you doing good? It's real great to
have you, and again thanks for joining us. And i'd like you to
go ahead, and you know, take a moment and introduce yourself to the
listeners. All right, Well, I go by G, and I live
in San Diego, down here by the water where you can clearly see the
horizon. Every day of my life, I stumbled upon this podcast identically to
a lot of other people. I was on Spotify, and it's really interesting
how I ended up there even let me rewind us a little bit. I
really I really wasn't involved and even watching politics and stuff like that, and
then things just got so inflamed. And you know the age, I'm in
my thirties, mid thirties, and so I feel like that age you're kind
of just like, Okay, you know, why isn't my voice being heard?
You really kind of realize at that point. And so I started watching
stuff and yeah, it was just really disturbing what the general population is ingesting,
and just the stuff that people would come up and tell me, Like
when I'd see people today, oh did you hear this on the news?
And I'd be like, wow, that's that's pretty crazy, and I just
really wouldn't even think about how it affected them and their perception and how that
effect on our society, how it's going to take a toll on all of
us, you know. So I really started paying attention to that, and
then I actually started listening to Megan Kelly, like that was kind of my
first Okay, I saw a couple of clips of her and they were just
really sarcastic and witty, and I don't you know, it's not something I'm
like gonna be, Oh, here's the facts and all that. But I
just kind of like listened to it to kind of see what was going on,
and then I could also kind of tolerate her reactions well on some of
the things. And then she had RFK Junior on, which this was before
he was running for president, because that's a new thing, and I started
checking out every interview he was on, and then I went to see his
podcast on Spotify and it was mine. It's amazing. That's I also ended
up reading his book, The Real Anthony Fauci, which I really recommend everybody
read because or listen to on audiobook is what I really recommend because it really
shows the evidence on a timeline from somebody who really knows the facts, and
he added them all up. I mean, not just him, but he's
laid it out and he's taken a huge risk to come out like that,
and he started out as an attorney from what I understand from what he said,
so I feel like he's kind of been able to maneuver himself into this
position. So I still kind of see him as not really a politician because
that's relatively new for me, the idea of him, because I think that
he was just really sounded like a truth seeker to me. Maybe not in
our sense like the people listening to this podcast, but still very admirable and
he has just uncovered amazing things that people really should know and need to know,
and he's done the work. So I really recommend checking out his podcast
on Spotify. Just look up rfk JR. So I listened to I was
listening to that and then you know, the flat Earth Files picture came up,
and just like so the other people, I'm like, oh man,
I can't. I don't have the bandwidth right now to take on a whole
new topic right and dive into it, because you know, a lot of
us we find something out and then we put our life on pause and we're
just glued to figuring out information. So um, but I kept coming up
and then one day I was just like, okay, you know, I'm
gonna listen to it. And then, you know, I think it helps
that this isn't just about flat Earth. You know that everybody talks about things
that also ties into flat Earth, and it makes it a lot more relatable,
which is important when you're spreading the message to be relatable to people.
So yeah, so that's how I ended up here. And you know,
then I just felt like an idiot because I'm like, wow, I really
didn't ask any of these questions, you know, even when I was younger.
I mean, I've always questioned everything. I've been really unpopular with adults,
peers, every definitely authority because I just just for asking the question why
and wanting to understand things. So anyways, yeah, so that's that's how
I got here, and there's an introduction about me. I also have an
interest, I guess to me a kind of unique religious background. Do you
want to go ahead and touch on that. Yeah, sure, I just
feel like it's unique in the sense that I don't really hear people talking about
like I haven't heard anybody that I'm like, oh, that sounds just like
me. But I grew up in San Diego and my parents we were definitely
lower middle class. They were really hard workers, you know, over time,
and one my mom spent most of her money sending me and my sister
to a private school, and they also had a church there, so we
went to church with the school every Thursday, and religion was one of the
subjects. And so to me that's always seemed really normal. And but what's
interesting is now as I'm older and I try to talk with my mom about
these things, she's just not she doesn't really have a connection with God,
but she sent me somewhere where I have that, you know, And so
that's kind of me and my kids thing now, and I keep trying to
get her, you know, just come to church with me, you know,
let's just hang out for a little bit, you know. And my
church, I feel like, is pretty different from a lot of people's church
too. It's very formal. It's not like commanding or controlling in any way.
It's very inclusive and accepting. But you go there, you sit and
you listen, you stand, and you seeing, you know, and when
there's musicians playing there, it's still the same thing. It's not, you
know, you can't be talking under your breath there and stuff, because it's
just rude. People are really there to have their own personal relationship with God.
And I feel really blessed and lucky to have grown up in that environment
and have that church and everything like it was. I feel like just a
blessing from from my young childhood that God set me on that path there even
though you know, in my own households they could they couldn't relate to me,
and I could never you know, I was always growing up. I
was always like, that's not right, you know, and I'd have fights
with my parents about it, and I'd get grounded and get in trouble for
wanting to give things to people or telling them that I thought that they were
being wrong and insensitive. And it's funny because now, you know, they
always told me growing up, oh, you'll see you when you're an adult,
You'll see And now when I talk with them, it's just like,
well, yeah, that's that's who you are, and you knew you you
knew things back then, so oh yeah. So um, I feel like
that that puts me like that church really sets people on the path to build
a personal relationship with God, to to do God's will, to be humble,
to really just give everything you can, you know, and honor God's
word, and a lot of self reflection. That's what a lot of his
my pastor's sermons end with the self reflection. So I like that there's not
a lot of hype, and I didn't realize how formal it was until I
invited somebody and then they were like, whoa, that was a really serious
service. And I was like, oh, well, I mean, huh,
it's interesting. And then I went to her church and it was cool.
I mean it was great. The vibe was great, and it was
really hyped up. But I just like I couldn't focus and pay attention,
you know, the way that I could in the church that I'm used to
going to. So anyhow, I feel like a lot of people don't necessarily
have that just personal relationship with God where you it's you know, he's just
literally your father, you know, like he is the one, and he
is constantly telling you you need to follow my example and Jesus' example and to
self reflect and that you're accountable for those things. You know, you can
repent and you can be sorry, and you're gonna make mistakes and you need
to learn how to do that. That's part of it. But I feel
like a lot of people are missing that, and it makes our society and
our world go the way that has gone. It allows it to go that
way. Yeah, and that's a great point. And I was discussing this
last night with one of my neighbors that the reflection of the morals in our
country, I think are a direct reflection of where we stand as a society
today. That I forget the verse. It's like Psalm seven thirteen, but
that basically says a country that turns its back on God, um is going
to be in for enough times. And I'm paraphrasing, I'm kicking myself because
I meant to write it down, um, And that's you can tell that
our country has really turned its back on God. And they've we've put um,
you know, our faith in God and just in the backseat, and
we've become h just more um, you know, worked up and consumed with
worldly things than we are with our spiritual things. And as we know,
our time on earth, even if you live to be a hundred, that
is such a short time compared to eternity, and m it is said,
it's it's almost to the point where some people say, maybe, you know,
we look at our country and the direction it's going. Maybe to a
certain point, do we deserve this? Because you know, our country has
just turned its back on God. It's Psalm nine seventeen. It says uh.
I actually did write it down. I texted to my buddy last night,
and it says, hum the wicked shall be turned into Hell and all
the nations that forget God, you know, and even people will pull out
their dollar bill out of their wallet and say, well, look it says
one nation under God right here. Well, you know, I'm not sure
who's God, you know, going back to like Nebuchadnezzar talking about you know,
different gods, Whose God do they worship? Because when you see,
you know, our governments, you know what they champion and what they put
on a pedestal that that is not the morals that me and my family reflect.
No, they're using God is what they're doing as a shield, as
a blanket, as a mockery. They're using that. So it's just a
simple trick, you know, and they know what they mean, but they're
not they're they're not of God in any way. You have to really fight
hard to go against God that as much as they do. You know,
it's intentional one hundred percent, Yeah, it is, and it's and now
it's almost to the point it's like they're intentionally trying to I said this today
to my wife we're getting this smoke so bad here, they're like literally choking
us. It is so brutal. And that's the second time that year that
this has happened, and it's it's like they are really this is not a
coincidence in my in my book, but it's just it seems like they're up
in the game every time. And a lot of people say, well,
you know, maybe Satan thinks or he knows that his time is short,
so it's just throwing everything he has met us. You know, that's really
interesting that you say that, because I think it was just yesterday that I
got an email from Cox, because I have Cox Communications for my Internet,
and I got an email from Cox saying prepare yourself for internet and for internet
shutoffs, you know, do for safety practices for upcoming And I'm just like,
this is what they're doing. They're preparing us again, that's ridiculous.
They've never I've never gotten a thing like that. I mean, I live
in California. We have we have fires here all the time. I mean
some of them have impacted me greatly. Actually, when I was in third
grade, my house burnt down. It wasn't from a wildfire, but yeah,
so it's just devastating. But it's just crazy how they are, how
they sent me that email. And it's just weird because you really don't have
to dig. You really just need to let go of everything that you you
know that your mind thinks it knows, and really just look at things and
just things everywhere, everything that comes to you. It just becomes much more
clear little by little, and then it forms a big picture for you that
you don't have to create. And that's what these people spend so much time
trying to distort that image that just comes naturally. Yeah, indeed, one
hundred percent. And I will tell you that they have been telling us.
It's interesting you got that from Cox. But you know, just what two
three weeks ago, there was the story that you know, one senator from
each you know, each state got one of these satellite phones because of this
threat that the Internet was going to be shut down. And now you're hearing
about these, you know, whatever practice runs they're going to do with the
Internet being shutting, you know, being shut down, that is definitely going
to be one of the big false flags, whether they do in the near
future or this is going to be one of the tricks they use when the
next election cycle comes around. For me, it's not an if but a
when they they've made it clear to us, and of course they'll blame excuse
me, Russia or China or Iran. It's everything that happens in this country
is not organic or it's by the powers that be. It's intentional. Yeah,
it wasn't an idea that they just woke up with a week ago.
Oh no, these plans have been again. These are sorry, these are
generational plans. These people, they have their plans laid out for generations and
they know the end game exactly. And you know, I started taking a
look at probably you know, the first thing I probably remember is Skull and
Bone Secret Society when I was really young, when I probably first had access
to the internet, and I like ever since then, so I've always just
known that there's these evil forces. And you know, because the stuff,
the stuff that I saw back then, it was just like real raw footage
because it wasn't censored the way it is now. You just find stuff,
people shared everything. I mean, man, I missed the old and it
I mean it was it was a crazy place. But you know, this
having to dig and just getting little tiny end pieces of the real information because
they censor it is just exhausting. I mean, that's their goal, but
it just it's ridiculous. The Wild West, you could download a movie,
music and you can, like you said, you can find anything without it
being shadow band, without being fed a bunch of disinformation when you're looking for
something in particular. M Yeah, exactly. It's really scary, how you
know. I remember when Minority Report came out, and now I just feel
like that, you know, they make these sci fi movies and then they
just tweak like a little bit of it from what's actually gonna happen. Yeah,
you know, and it's just you know, when they release that movie,
it's like, wow, that's crazy, you know. And now we're
just right around the corner from some of that most severe technology. Yeah,
it's a matter of time before the pre crime people come and get me,
it's for sure. Goodness. The other one is I think it was a
Schwarzenegger movie with the clone. That's the other one. Remember it was the
Sixth Day, I think it was called. Like it started out the quarterback
when the football team died and they cloned him at halftime, and then their
pet died and they cloned them. I think that's another one of these movies
where they're talent like they probably I assume they have these abilities already. I
don't know, but you're right. I always talk about the truth in Hollywood
and the lies of the media. M Yeah, it's actually pretty sickening,
and it honestly makes me bitter towards people that are you know, the actors.
I'm not saying it's all their fault. I'm just saying, like they're
the ones with the platform. I know. The people who do speak up,
they just get I mean, they get messed up. Some of them
get murdered. So I do understand, but it's still just, you know,
when you contribute to something like that, I mean, I can't.
I'm not trying to judge, but I'm just saying, I honestly think that
a lot of people who are celebrities are narcissists, and so they aren't always
paying attention to everything going on. They're more paying attention to themselves, you
know, and how much attention they're getting. And I've heard that from people
that are kind of outcasts from Hollywood. Now, you know, it's it
can't be everybody, It's I don't think it is at all, but I'm
sure that there's some of them, and I feel like it'd be easier to
push messages and agendas out with people like that that just want that spotlight and
that relevance. I agree, and I do believe, like you said,
it's definitely not all the actresses are so many, But I do believe that
the people at the very top of the food chain are involved to the point
where they may even be actual CIA agents themselves. And I'm talking about like
the Tom Cruises and the Tom Hanks. I'm talking about the very, very
big, you know, the Harrison Ford that are at the very top of
the food chain who are able to pull people in and evoke emotions and get
a particular response out of people. You know, I've heard all the stories
about Tom Hanks and when the whole Q thing came out. Whether or not
all that stuff is legit or not, I have no idea, but I
do know that Hollywood has been used for close to one hundred years to manipulate,
you know, people's minds and beliefs, and just about the topic we're
here about today is you know that globe that in most movies, that's how
it starts when you sit down with your popcorn and the lights go down,
like the very first whether it's like universal or paramount, there's usually some type
of globe involved in the you know, in the beginning of the movie,
and that's just more reinforcement into your brain that there's no way we could be
on a flat earth, right, Yeah, I feel like that that is
just a much more common type of subliminal programming because you think about it,
you've seen it your whole lives. You don't pay attention to it, and
that's how you're like, I know the Earth as a globe because you just
know it. In fact, when I asked my kids about it, that's
what they said too, and I was like, did you think about it?
And then they're just like hmm, you know, and they're they kind
of took a step back. Yeah, So there's Yeah, it's a subliminal
programming constantly. It just it does more than just let us know that the
Earth is round. It makes us shut other people down that's have anything different
to say. Yeah, And that really goes to show how powerful the programming
is. By the response that you get from people, like you were saying
earlier, you know, people are based on that. I mean, if
you bring it up people again, you can have a conversation about the moon
landing being faked at work. Nobody will even think twice about it. They
love to sip a cup of coffee and talk about the moon landing. But
if you bring up something that is directly related to it, which there is
direct correlation with the flat Earth, the NASA, it triggers people and all
of a sudden, you're you're a cuckoo, and yeah, you know you're
You're the talk of the workplace because um, you know, you actually don't
believe that we're on a rock spinning, hurtling through space. And then when
you even try to challenge the people who you know make fun of you.
They don't even know the facts about heliocentrism. They can't tell you how far
the sun the moon and the spinning and everything else. And again, granted
at one time I was that guy too, But from a retrospect, what
I'm trying to say is it really lends credence to this powerful program that they've
developed to make people believe, you know, from evolution to heliocentrism, that
you know, we're an accident and God's not really here. Yeah, evolution
that that's that really bothers me as somebody who's raising children. I really just
think it's ridiculous. I think it's just meant to dumb us down to say
that we evolve from monkeys or you know, even back before then. And
because, like you I've heard on your podcast before, why would why would
our evolutions stop here? I mean, I believe that you, your body
and other living things on the you know, can adapt to their environment and
those small changes can be made. But no, I don't see evolution happening
in the way that it's presented, or that entire theory or the Big Bang.
And it's just really disturbing because you have all these people, you know,
in my experience, I don't believe in God, you know, I
just don't believe in it, and a lot of people, especially you know,
teenage years I experienced a lot of people like that and even felt like
that myself at times. But it's crazy that people can shut that down so
easily because it's a normal thing to do and say, well, you don't
have any proof of God yet everybody is so sure about all of this science,
you know, it just really doesn't make any sense. And I wish
that people could just like let down their ego and take a step back and
really look at things and look at the things that they think that they know,
the things they've been taught, because I just feel like God made us
in a way to comprehend what is going on. Indeed, and again,
all he asks is for the faith of the faith of a mustard seat.
And for many people that's that's even too much. And again, people will
you know, especially going back, you know you started out talking about RFK
junior and vaccines. You know what we saw over the last three years.
Everyone, you know, a guy that nobody had ever met in their life
personally, they put their full faith into And even if you are at minimum
of vaccine skeptic, you know that according to their science, it takes ten
years to to figure out and test a vaccine and these people whipped them up
in six months. And people were still because a guy in a lab coat
on the television told him it was safe. And that bothered me a lot.
And I know, you know, I've had many people on the podcast.
You know, the whole COVID narrative woke a lot of people up.
Yeah, I feel like if we start talking about the vaccine, that the
entire podcast might turn into that, this entire episode might turn into that.
Yeah, but I really do think, yeah, it really did weight people
up. And before the whole COVID, before twenty twenty, I really felt,
you know, I don't exactly remember everything that was really bothering me at
that time because the COVID came along distracted me. But I was like twenty
twenty, like, this is going to be the year of clear vision guys,
you know, And then and then it started all unfolding and I was
like, oh, no, this is not what I thought at all.
And now, in hindsight, that is what happened. Yeah, you know,
God works in mysterious ways sometimes, you know, when we asked for
something or a way as to see, you know, he works in different
ways, and he did. You know, these folks overplayed their hand and
unintentionally, I would say, or intentionally through God's eyes, unintentionally through the
hands of Satan. Many people were awakened to the evils of vaccine. And
that's a personal you know, I am not a very smart person, and
I can see for myself how the vaccine schedule you know, when Reagan took
the vaccine makers off the hook in eighty six, and within ten years that
the schedule had almost doubled. And you know, I graduated in eighty seven,
so through the seventies and eighties, we didn't have anybody in my class
with autism or ADHD at all. And then you know, here we are
just you know, twenty years later, after two thousand, I think it
went from one in five or six thousand to now. It's like it depends
on where you go to and what document your source. But one in dirty,
I mean, it's what else? What other correlation? I mean,
maybe WiFi? Do you want to argue wi Fi? I guess that's the
only other thing since the late eighties early nineties that's really changed the cell phone
tower. Sure, there's a lot of people who think that if you look
at all the improvements in radio. You know, there was radio towers that
first went up in the nineteen seventeen through nineteen twenty and that was the Spanish
flu. And you know, people do say that maybe these radio waves can
make people sick and you know, mess with their their being. But you
know, the only other one that is the obvious one to me is the
thing that is being pushed into your body, and that is vaccines. Now,
one hundred percent agree with you on that, because you know, I
was I forgot the name of that book now, but you did mention it.
I don't know if it was on Fact Hunter or flat Earth, but
it's like a contagion myth or something like that. Yeah, and that's really
interesting. And I haven't fully adopted anything that I've read from that book,
but it helps you take a step back from from the narrative that because you
know, it really doesn't even matter what the narrative is. I mean,
it does matter, but from what I'm saying, what just what I'm saying
now, it doesn't matter how big or small the narrative is. It's always
a narrative. Every single thing seems to be a narrative. And that is
mind blowing and it seems like too much to accept. So it's easier for
people not to accept it. But to me, that's the way it is,
which is why I feel pretty alarmed that now all this attention is coming
onto UFOs. I mean, nothing makes me well start believing less in something
than when it starts blowing up in our face on the news. Yeah,
you know, that's the next big distraction, and people will sadly, people
will will grab onto it, and of course they will use it through dividen
conquer as well. There'll be the people who are uh, you know,
there's UFOs and there's the other people that there's no such thing. You know
that these um you know, narratives that they push and many times they're multifaceted
and they have different means to the end. And I think the one that
they will push it eventually. They always tell us Ronald Reagan told us,
and they always dropped these hints, and you know, it'll be interesting to
see how they pull it off. A lot of people out there in the
truth community believe that there were no planes on nine to eleven and that was
actually a hologram. We don't know what technology the government has. In most
cases, they've when they've released something to the public, it's something that they've
had in their hands for at least twenty years, yes, and discussed and
planned releasing and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah, just like oh go
on, no, no, no, go ahead. My mind already moved
on the other thing. I just wanted to touch on our FK and then
we can kind of get into your journey to the Flat Earth because you mentioned
him, and I just finally got around to kind of listening to that podcast.
I think it's interesting because, you know, with the Kennedy curse,
he's had some bumps in his road. He had some heroin issues in the
eighties, and then I think his I don't know if he was divorced at
the time, but his wife or ex wife, I think she hung herself
in two thousand and ten or two thousand and twelve. But yeah, yeah,
he didn't write about that. Yeah, that was just ten years ago.
I think her name was Mary Richardson. If I'm not mistaken, she
hung herself in twenty twelve. But um, you know that he finally went
and got his juris doctor, became a you know, a lawyer. But
he was one of these environmental lawyers. And the story goes, if I
recall correctly, forgive me if I'm wrong, guys, but there was this
um mother who kept showing, if she like, looked up where he lived
and started leaving these broke shures on his porch about vaccines, and I guess
her son had autism and she, you know, believed it was from the
vaccines, and she was trying to wake him up and say, hey,
the vaccines are a big problem. And basically since two thousand and five,
when the lady finally got through to him, he has been really a champion.
Well, I would would you say he is anti vax or would you
say he is? No? Okay, that's exactly and that's what he says.
And it's hard because, I mean, wouldn't that be someone's defense if
they were if it was a politician, right, But you know the fact
that he has gotten vaccinated and gotten his kids vaccinated. I mean it's not
It's completely reasonable to once you realize that something's not good for you, wanting
to stop taking it doesn't mean you're anti that. It means you've just found
out what it really is, gotcha. Yeah, But for the I don't
I don't remember hearing about that about a lady leaving the brochures at his house,
but I've heard him saying multiple times that every time that he goes somewhere,
there would be basically, you know, a small mob of mothers who
were like, you need to look into this, like this happened to our
children. They were normal before the vaccination and how they're not. Yeah,
I've heard just heartbreaking stories from people offline emails about how their child was happy
outgoing ahead of the curve on like walking and talking, and then they get
the vaccine and it like literally set them back. It's heartbreaking to think,
you know that they believe as parents, because that's what we were taught is
you know, when we were kids, that's what we did. We got
hauled off to the doctor when we were one, two, five, ten,
and then if you wanted to play sports, you know you had to
get your That was just you don't even think twice about it, right,
you just roll up your sleeve, boom, and you're off and running again.
And then you know, when I think back, the only time I
ever got sick was after I got my flu shot. And one thing I
didn't realize. Just a week or two ago, I did an episode on
The Fact Hunter about how the CDC compiles the flu and pneumonia under one umbrella.
So every fall when you hear x amount of people died from flu and
pneumonia, last year of the numbers are from pneumonia. Now, pneumonia is
a bacterial problem, where they say the flu is a virus problem, so
they're not even of the same thing, and it's shady. That's something they
didn't even start doing. I don't remember my research. I want to say
it was eighties or nineties when they put those two numbers under an umbrella in
order to push the flu vaccine. Yeah, they don't have they can.
They make up their own rules, and they make them up as they make
up a new rule whenever they need it, and then they call it whatever
they want to call it and send that out in their report to the general
public. And to me, it seems like that they think they're so special,
you know, from their special schools and their special secret societies, because
that makes them feel powerful. So they feel like they can do this to
us hard working people exactly. And when you talk about that a rabbit hole
that if you guys want to go down, I'll be doing an episode on
this in the next week or two. Have you ever heard of the Pew
Research Center, Like every time the news says there was a recent poll that
was conducted by the Pew Research Center. That is kind of like the go
to for the government and the big corporations where they guarantee that they will get
the answers to the poll that they want to show the people. So if
I'm a vaccine maker, I would hire Pew Research and I'd say, please
go poll ten thousand people and see what their confidence is in vaccines, and
they would cash your check and they'll come back and say that ninety six point
eight percent of the people are not vaccine hesitant. And that has a nonprofit
attached to it. It. I just came across this the other day and
it's just there is nothing like UM legitimate in our government or any of the
entities affiliated with it. It's just a porrent, none of it, none
of it at all. It really makes me wonder on a real level,
how much how much of the Truman shore are we living? Yeah, that's
that's the big question. Would you like to kind of talk about how you
came upon you know, the flat Earth and the Journey to flat Earth,
and you touched on it a little bit, but any success that you've had
sharing your knowledge and your thoughts about it, Well, I really haven't done
that much research. I mean, I haven't had that much time because the
first time I heard of it was when I started listening to this podcast.
UM. But I have definitely started reading some books that you recommended and then
other ones that I just found. Some of them are pretty hefty, but
I'm also reading like thirty other books at the same time because that's just how
I do it. So I haven't gotten too far. But I feel like
a lot of these books on flat Earth, a lot of them, they
don't really have the an answer, definitive answer, you know. It's a
lot of like think about this and think about that. And I do remember
somebody on your pot Josiah on your podcast, and he was like, you
know, the true seekers they can point out the lies, but they can't
point out what's true. And I totally get that. I feel like that's
kind of what we're all trying to work towards, you know. But it's
just the answers are just I mean, we are human beings. We have
a brain. We're not a robot. So we can't just look at things
and be like this has a percentage of this much to not be true and
throw it out. You know. We're like get confused about stuff and then
we have empathy and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, but oh sorry,
go ahead, no, no, no, I was just agreeing with
you. Okay, but you know, so far, I I definitely have
a small circle. I mean, I have acquaintances, but I haven't really
had conversations with acquaintances yet about this. But my typical way of relating to
people is asking them questions because I like to kind of find out where they
are, you know, because to me, you have to kind of meet
someone where they're at find something they can relate to, you know. But
for me, so far, in my small circle, I've just asked people,
which way is the earth moving? Do do you feel it moving?
You know? And I don't just say it like that, you know,
we will kind of start talking, and I do ask it in a genuine,
you know, peer to peer type of way, but just putting these
questions out there, and everybody every over and I've talked to is like,
you know, that's a really good point. And that's how I felt about
it too. So yeah, so far people have just been like, wow,
that's you know, that that does make a lot of sense. I
don't feel like we're moving, And I mean, to me, I don't
can't think of one single instance that I've ever had to calculate curvature for anything,
whether it be a hypothetical situation or a real life situation. So to
me, a lot of people can relate to that. I'm just like,
what where how do you calculate curvature? You know? And then the fact
that you use a flat matt you treat the earth as flat when you're flying
a plane. I mean, come on, it's not it's they're not teaching
us. It's just like a culture. You know, they're just adding to
our culture, part of that cult. And I know that's strong, but
I mean that is really how things are. And they have so many layers.
They have the deep, dark layers hidden on top of these little tiny
tidbits and on the top of the conspiracy theorists. You know, that's really
well said when you mentioned it that you know, it's all about your culture.
And in some ways it is a cult because you'd believe what you're told,
just you know, at face value. Okay, but but if you
till somebody look at the moon and look at the sun, does the sun
look like it's ninety two million, seven one hundred and fifty thousand miles further
than the moon. No, Well that's what you were told in school.
And and I tell people all the time. If you go back and look
how the Department of Education was hijacked over the last one hundred years, and
it actually goes back to a guy named Horace Mann in the I guess the
eighteen thirties is when he really to. The eighteen fifties is when he started
to say, this guy from Massachusetts that you know, the parents were slacking
off, and we need discipline in these kids, and we need to federalize
education. And it's been a slow like they always do, right, it's
a boiled the frog method where they, you know, more and more take
control of your freedoms and your children. And now we've just and again I'm
everybody has I'm not criticizing anybody for sending their children to school. You know
many of mine did or some of them too. Right, we're all in
different parts of our life, and you know, I completely get it.
I'm just as a fifty three old guy who who's reflecting, you know,
saying that now we've just turned our children over to the federal government for twelve
years to mold their minds. And if you look at the federal government today
and what they stand for, it's not a great idea. Yeah, it's
really not. And I mean before we had the Internet, we didn't really
we weren't able to hold these pieces together about what's going on. And since
more information has come out, you know, the powers of the b had
to come down harder with more ridiculousness, and that does that's overplaying their hand
too. But I remember when I was a kid, I must have been
like, I don't know, ten years old or something, and I was
looking in this magazine. I would always cut pictures out that I liked,
and it was a picture of I have no idea what the article was because
I was ten, but the picture was a bunch of people and they were
in color going into underneath an arch and it's a public school, and everybody
coming out on the other end was miserable and drained and all one color.
And just when I saw that, even back then, I was like,
oh my gosh, that's so true. It's a factory. That's a powerful
image to think about. M Yeah. I tried to find it and I
couldn't find it. I bet you all find that little clip in my savings
when I'm you know, in my sixties. Yeah. But yeah, So
I've always felt that way, and I've always hated school. It's just draining.
And I'm a really sensitive person, Like I can sense things. I
can physically feel things going on around me, you know what I mean,
like EMF and stuff like that. I'm one of those people that's really sensitive.
It burns me, you know, so I'm paying attention. I can't
not pay attention, like shutting things off for me, it's not an option,
and it's it's not easy, but this is the world you end up
in. I guess the truth. Yeah, it's funny. I'm the same
way. When they're high, I get the ringing in my ear. Yeah,
you know, I've Oh that scares me because I have constant ringing in
my ears and it's only gotten worse. And now I'm wondering what it's because
there's a tower nearby, it very well could be. Oh goodness. Yeah,
that is a serious, real thing. And I didn't really start looking
into it until I started realizing that it was hurting me when I had my
laptop on me, and like if somebody else, like if I was sitting
next to somebody and they had their cell phone in between me and them,
it would be burning and I'd look I'd look down at the sensation and their
phone would be there and I'd have to ask them to move it, you
know. So then they make people out like that to be crazy too.
But I mean there's a whole history on big tech covering up how dangerous EMFs
are. I mean, if you just look, it's another one of those
things where the facts are written down and have been our science have actually been
scientifically proven. But they're going to lie to your face, and you know,
it's easier to believe the lie, Like it's just more relaxing to a
lot of people, right, But that's how most people are. We want
to we want to fit in, right, We want to go along,
to get along. We want to be a part of the crowd. You
know. There's the picture, you know, there's a thousand people on one
side of the road and there's the one person on the other side of the
road. That's me. Yeah, And I think that's probably most of the
people who are listening to this podcast is we're the We were always the person
in school that said but why? Or at work? But why? I
did for a while in the army, but I got tired of doing push
ups. I just did it. Why Sergeant? But yeah, I can't
imagine in the military asking why, like just knowing what I do know about
that environment and the way that the workflow is. Yeah, that whole situation,
that's a whole other world. Really, it really is. It was.
I'll tell you it was just the other day had my eight year anniversary
of retirement. I think it was this past Tuesday that the old pictures came
up on Facebook and I was like, man, I'm so glad, and
I pray for the men and women who are serving today because you know,
we're certainly in we're in dangerous times in the world, and you know our
government has That's one of the reasons I was quick to turn in my retirement
papers is because they were more worried about, you know, telling people,
you know, about the woke agenda than they were learning their job or learning
how to further weapon It was ridiculous. Oh wow, I didn't know that,
but I have heard just from friends and of the ones that I that
I do have in the military, that I've just heard things like, you
know, when you get stressed out, you pull out a stress card,
like there's no more training, there's no more conditioning to handle tough situations,
you know, yeah, I think that started in the that's all I've heard
that started. I think in the No, No, You're good. I
think it started in the two thousands at some point I heard that the stress
card. And the thing is people I hope understand, is like, you
know, the military isn't like another business where you're actually setting up the soldier
for failure if they're introduced to a high level of stress for the first time
in their life in combat, of you've let that soldier down. Anytime we
had training exercises, I made it a point to try to make them as
stressful as possible and realistic as possible, because they're you know, getting yelled
at by a supervisor may be stressful to some people. Having bullets fly by
you are getting hit by an ied it is a whole other level of stressful.
And unfortunately, politicians, the people who have been you know, I
always say, people in suits have been getting people in uniforms killed for thousands
of years, and they continue to do so. Yeah. I actually had
a a friend who I would watch her son while she went to work,
and her husband was sent over to Iraq and he was blown up on his
own base. Oh you know, it's just it's just I just don't have
I just worry about any body that's like, I'm gonna go into the military.
Yeah. Period. Yeah. I discouraged my children and I'm hoping that
it ends with me. And I said many times before, if if you
know, a foreign entity actually steps foot on her land and threatens our family
and friends, I'll be the first one to go down to my safe and
you know, grab my stuff and put my uniform on and go and fight.
But the days of Vietnam and Iraq and Korea, they're they're over.
Not for my family. It's just not happy. Yeah. And we shouldn't
have to be in the military to stand up. And I mean there are
tons of people in our country that will stand their ground because this is their
country. Yeah, you know, so we don't have to be in the
military. But it is sad, you know, because they do appeal to
the younger people, and they'll only take you when you're young and fit and
when they can, you know, make sure that your body is physically able
to be abused, you know, and pushed to its limits. But it's
weird because it's I don't I don't even actually know what's happening in the military
anymore. The stuff that I hear because people, the people that I know,
they don't give me. They're not giving me any secrets. I've never
had anybody's share any secrets, and I've never asked, because I would never
want someone to get in trouble. But from what I hear about what's going
on just in the day to day, it's just it seems weird. It
doesn't seem like a military terry to me. You know, it doesn't seem
like people that are seriously getting ready for stuff. And it's not because they
can't do it. It's because they're given different tasks to do. That's right,
You're you're in a big navy town too. Yeah. Yeah, So
I've grown up with people, you know, when I was a kid,
and then they joined the military, and I watched them change, you know,
I watched the change of them being you know, somebody who was open
to seeing the world change to somebody who really just quit questioning stuff and would
just go along with everything that before I would watch them question, not even
deep deep things, just really everything. But I mean, I also do
meet people from other places a lot because of the Yeah, I live really
close to the water. I live about fifteen minutes from the coast. Yeah,
that's the one town I've never gotten to. I've heard the cost of
living is pretty outrageous there. Yeah, it's kind of just like we all
joke about it constantly because I think if we did and it would just be
too overwhelming. Yeah, you know, it's it's really like every everybody there,
everybody here, everybody here is just really the rent is always the topic,
you know, like, I gotta do this. I gotta make my
rent. You know, I can't do this. I gotta make my rent.
You know, people with normal jobs, people that have graduated from college
and are working these minimum wage jobs. Like it's crazy. You hear about
these stories and you're just like, oh, that's unfortunate for that person.
But then you know people and you see it happen to them, and it's
just mind blowing. Yeah, it sure is, and it's it's a shame.
And it goes back to what I think we were saying the other day
is I think they intentionally drive the prices up because if people are working fourteen
hours a day, and if both parents are working, that's the less time
that they have to keep an eye on their child, and you know,
that's more time in the hands of the government, and that's less time for
you to do what we're doing right now, having these kind of conversations about
you know, what's really going on right questioning that the authority that they don't
want that exactly. Yeah, they make it so people have no other choice
but to send their children to school. Indeed, and again, you know,
I know it varies by state. The rules and regulations here, I
can actually I went on and did it. I can actually teach seven children
and all I have to do is report attendance. That's the only requirement Delaware
has. You know, every state has their good pluses and minuses. All
I have to do is from June one to July fifteenth, I just email
them or I have to go onto the state website and I just input the
number of days we did school and that is all they require. How often
annually? Just once a year. That blows my mind. That blows my
mind, Like I remember hearing you say that, and I was going to
ask you that question to make sure I heard you correctly. Nope, it's
you literally a year. You're so different here. Yeah, it's so easy.
You go in the state's website, you say you want to homeschool,
you say what school if you're you know, if she was in school,
which school I was pulling her out of, what grade she was in.
Like when you first do it, it's like five minutes, just a couple
of questions and then that's it. And then like once a year you just
report how many days they were in school. They don't ask for content grades
anything, and you just click on promoted to the next grade, and that
is it. It's literally five minutes a year worth of work. Moved to
Delaware, guys. Yeah, just prepared to people saying, yeah, high
income tax and the property taxes are on their way up, but no sales
tax. Yeah, and homeschool is very simple, two things that are opposite
of here for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just, oh my
gosh, it still just blows my I'm kind of speechless that you say that,
because you know, I was thinking, you know, I originally emailed
you and I was like, I want to come on here and talk about
talk about homeschooling and going through like me discovering stuff and figuring stuff out,
like we all are listening, and share how that's affected me homeschooling. Um,
I really didn't think about talking to people that wanted to homeschool that haven't.
But since since I emailed you, I've heard a few people bring that
up that they want to, but it is it's a very overwhelming task to
start. And then I heard you say, oh, we just have to
do it once a year, and I'm like, oh no, this guy,
this guy is setting me up bad because because I was. You know,
I'm going to share what my experience is the home study and it's very
different. But I also live in California. And it's funny because I live
in San Diego and we're so laid back here, Like people in San Diego
were just like, oh, I don't I have to go to LA to
meet my cousin. Like I don't, I do not want to go to
La. You know. We're just like we're Californians, but we really just
want to chill, you know. I mean, we have the beach here
always calling our name, you know. To look out at that flat horizon,
which I've just been near my entire life, and nothing has ever looked
like it's curved, even when the sun goes down. I've watched numerous sunrises
and sunsets and never once. It just always looks like it's you know,
I could draw a straight line on the paper. But anyhow, Yeah,
California. There's a lot of terrible things to say about the laws and everything
here, and since COVID, things really really change. So it really shows
me that there's a huge agenda going on to transition the population in many senses.
Because I've heard you bring up McGraw hill a law, and I did
some research and basically what that is. It's a company that these rich people
trade around and condensed to make money off of it. I doubt that they
care about children's education whatsoever. So I mean, they might as well just
do what the other people other powers that be, They might as well push
their agenda in those books as long as they make money, because I think
it was I think McGraw hill started out. I think the first thing they
did. This isn't a fact because I don't have in front of me,
but I think the first thing they did was they published some medical journal type
document, and then they just were publishing different things and then landed on the
you know, doing school textbooks. And it's like, what other way to
generate guaranteed income than fund than the schools. And those are your buddies too,
because that's the government who's running the schools, so why not. Yeah,
they the guy James mcgrawl, it was he purchased like the American Journal
of Railway Appliances. Yeah, it started out with some certain things and then
it became huge. And then you know, because Lane Maxwell's dad, they
bought it, Yeah, eighty nine. They had it till ninety three,
and then Apollo Management which was run by Leon Black, they had it until
just two years ago, and it's sold for four and a half billion dollars.
My good, education is quite the racket. Yeah, yeah, it
really is. And see when I started doing home study, I think about
seven years ago, it was we used to have this really big library that
just contained everything that was available, all the curriculums, games, books,
videos, like tons of stuff. Like if you're an educator, it's a
playground. You know, you only you can only check out fifty, but
you find a way to check out more somehow. So anyways, you could
choose from all of these curriculums and all that kind of stuff, and it
was pretty amazing to see the volume of paper and textbooks in that place.
I mean, it wasn't it was. You know, probably is is definitely
as much square footage as a as a house, you know. And this
is just us, like one school going there for this. Well yeah so,
um but after the uh after when when COVID started, all of a
sudden, they were like, you guys have to do the common Core math.
And they were already pushing that. They made you guys, they made
you, they made us. You have to in California now so and I
think we've been doing it for a couple of years and it's like being a
parent teaching the common Core. Um, it's like taking me. I felt
like a kindergartener that didn't know math because the way that they do it and
explain it. And I actually do see some benefits of it because it shows
you some shortcuts, but it comes it's just like it's another way of just
taking logic out of learning math. To me, it's you know, the
way that we learned math, it was just simple and basic and laid things
out and you went on as you go. This way the way that they
break things down and do the repetition, and I mean there's tons of videos
and stuff like. People have had a real problem with it, and I
see why, but I just feel like they're switching. Maybe the content itself
isn't as problematic as the way it's being taught and where it might head.
But anyhow, so now we can only choose from two different curriculums hoot and
Mifflin and McGraw hill, and both of those are not very different from each
other. So they push it and they've taken away like we used to be
able to do stuff on a home study website like we used to, which
we still have, but we used to be able to have some money to
Okay, my kid wants to go to this class, and they'd have a
list to pick from, so you could have your kids take guitar lessons or
gymnastics or whatever, and you'd have a certain amount of money to do it.
They took that away. All of this happened during COVID, and yeah,
they just completely changed everything. They actually took away that building that I
was telling you about, that big library with all of the stuff, all
the resources, and they just dispersed it to smaller, different buildings, so
it's not a big place everybody can come and it's just you know, when
I've questioned this because I have a rapport with a lot of the people who
work in these different places with our school, you know, and I'm just
like, what's going on, Like this is now we can't even do this,
and they're like, this is what they're making us do. And that's
just what I keep hearing is that they're being forced to follow a program and
this is for home study, which is supposed to you know, there's at
least in California, at least the in San Diego. They don't. It's
not as laid back as they want to make sure that they're learning what they
want them to learn. But you can't and you definitely can navigate it yourself
and make it better for your children. And I feel like that's enough reason
to homeschool if you can. And this is the thing that infuriates me because
you know, we saw a lot of this nonsense, you know, I
think I guess it was twenty twenty one with the FBI and police showing up
to a lot of the parent teacher conferences when things were kind of going crazy.
The state again, it's it's everything is backwards, you know, the
state should be answering to the people. But we live in a world where
people answer to the state, and that is the problem. Uh. You
know I talk about at nauseum. The Declaration of Independence is very clear in
the second paragraph about what you should do when a government takes control and takes
it away from the people. And you know, you look at common Core,
and you know that the two biggest flags that I recall from common Core
was how much money the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation had into it, and
how it was wrapped up in the No Child Left Behind Act, which all
these things like the Patriot Act and the No Child Left Behind Act and all
these acts they sound really good until you sit down and read what's really involved
in it. And the children are certainly left behind because the quality of education
has taken down several several rungs on the ladder. Yeah, not only are
they left behind, they're just part of this big experiment because you know,
they have to see how their plans go on actual people. They don't know
how it's going to go, so really they're being experimented on and then you
know, taken away from us. And it's crazy to see how far it's
gone and COVID just allow them to, you know, to take away all
those rights really fast, like I've heard you talk about before, and you
know, like nine to eleven and the Patriot Act. You know, not
to veer off subject, but just to bring up nine to eleven, because
that's a horrific, horrific. I don't even know what to call it.
It's beyond a tragedy. How many people lost their lives yeah to me,
for no reason, and how many families were affected. And the fact that
one person, but especially a group of people, could say, yeah,
this is what we're going to do, let's go ahead and do it.
I just that horrifies me. And watching the videos of people clinging to the
outsides of the buildings and until they can't hold on anymore and they fall to
their death. I mean, these people, I can imagine them sitting there
watching this and being like, good, our plans working. These people are
terrified because they're watching their own kind die. And that's what happened. We
really care, the human race really cares, and they know that. Yeah.
And you know, Governor Jesse Ventura of Minnesota, he was just being
interviewed by somebody I don't recall who the British guy and he said, you
know every war starting, yes, thank you, thank you. He said
that every war starts with a false flag. And the reason is, you
know, a president can't just say, hey, we're going to send our
troops to here and there because you know this and that they need that headline,
like, yeah, I still have the newspaper when I lived in Hawaii.
I was in Hawaii on September eleven, two thousand and one. We
got the afternoon edition and it's got the date September eleven, two thousand and
one, and you know, the big fire, flames, smoke, and
you know, just the giant headline like you would see in a movie.
They want to evoke the emotions because Americans wanted revenge, right, everybody,
let's go to Afghanistan. And you know I had buddies who I met down
the road who feeling yeah, absolutely, I had buddies who you know,
I met down the road who were recruiters on September eleventh, and they said,
you know, there were lines around the block of people, you know,
wanting to volunteer to join the military. So the same, the same
back in ninety one. They were having a hard time convincing the American public
for Desert Storm. They brought up that fifteen year old girl to lie about
the Iraqi babies being pulled out of incubators and thrown on the ground, and
all of a sudden, everybody was ready to go to war. So these
people are the mass. It's a weird specific story, isn't it exactially weird
specific story? And not one person in that Senate committee hearing asked any questions
about it. It just when she was done talking, he said, my
goodness, I just and like kind of wrapped it up. Not what date,
what hospital was this, what you know, where did you hear this?
Nothing? Just she told her story and that was it. It was
a factual state. And it turns out that you know, she was the
Kawaiti ambassador's daughter hadn't even been in Kuwait since eighty seven. Yeah, I
definitely feel like that's typical. There's just so much propaganda propped up everywhere.
Like I said, it doesn't even matter how big or small the narrative is.
It's always a narrative, Like there's nothing that could because if things,
if there was a space where there was no narrative, the people might actually
have a moment to think, and that's dangerous. So yeah, that's the
last thing they want is us thinking and gathering around the tavern and having these
type of conversations like you and I are having right now speaking of the like
the order of rabbit holes, and obviously flat Earth is like one of the
newest ones for you. But how was the flat Earth rabbit hole different from
than say, you know, nine to eleven and Kennedy and the moon landing
and things like that. I feel like because with the flat Earth you have
your senses to evaluate. You know, You're like, do I feel like
moving? Like I'm moving in which direction is it? You know? And
me when I you know, I'm at the beach and I look out at
the water. You know, the water moves this way, and it moves
that way. It comes up and it comes down, and sometimes it's completely
still. You know, I just don't really, So yeah, so there's
a lot of things that I can check back on and assess that I'm a
part of. So I feel like that's that's how it's different and probably why
the lie has to be so big, because we can fact check with our
own senses. Now, talking about NASA, and those productions that we that
we have access to, we're not. We can't. We don't have access
to anything except for what's on the screen, right, And that's basically our
government as a whole. We just have to take their word for everything,
right, Yeah, until we found out that's what they were doing, because
before they didn't, like they weren't being so authoritative. And then when we
started asking why do we have to do it? Then things are happening where
now we're losing our rights. And you know, this is probably not a
popular idea, but when you think about when I think about the Declaration of
Independence and all alike, sometimes I think I'm like, did was that really
ever a real thing? Is that just something that they dangle in front of
us to be like America is so great, you know, and this is
where where we This is a great place that we came from, you know,
and we if we've fallen off a little bit, maybe we could get
back. Things are still pretty civil, you know what I mean. It's
just if they're gonna just lie about everything and spend all of this money instead
of actually leaving earth on film production. You know, it's just like it's
I feel like everything is a lie. Why why would anything be true?
Why would they ever let anything be true come out? Yeah, it's you
know, I've talked about that often that there's two countries. There's the one
that's on the paper that they want us to believe. Look, how free
you are. It says right here that you have the freedom of speech and
the freedom of religion, and you can have your own weapons. And then
there's the actual, you know, the country we live in where you know,
I've had my banks taken away from me for saying certain things. My
wife's been fired from her job for not taking a experimental vaccine, and I've
been kicked off social media, which you know, I'm not even going to
count that because they're their own private entities. But we certainly we saw churches
shut down and that that was like when I started seeing pastors getting arrested and
things like that, that I thought we are in big trouble. And I
was at the same time, not to be judge, I'm not, but
I was a little sad to see all the churches kind of go along with
the narrative too. But you know, yeah, some of them didn't.
Yeah, No, I agree, there are some that stood, Um,
the pastor. I think Locke was one of them that that you know,
went against the uh the narrative and stayed open the entire time, and others
did too. Yeah, my pastor was actually really really vocal about it.
And I don't go to church every Sunday, um, but I really love
my church. And I think I got like I'm blessed every time that you
have a good pastor. It's like wow, you know, it's it's life
changing, it makes every blessing. It can make. A good pastor can
make or break a church. No, that's really true. And with this
this the church that I go to is the one that I've been going to
since I was in kindergarten. That school, part of it has closed down
and opened up as a new school and closed down, but that churches remain,
and every single pastor that has been there has been like somebody who truly
behaves like they're all follower of Yes, somebody who's truly just really humble.
It's almost like if you came there and saw it at first, you'd almost
be like, is this an act? But it's not, you know,
I mean, it doesn't actually come off fake at all. It's just like
so you know, humans don't typically behave that way, and everybody in the
church isn't perfect, you know, and everybody in the church doesn't like the
pastor either, but the pastor is amazing. It's actually funny because when I
was a kid, we had we had a pastor for a while and he
was really great, Like I remember just him teaching us to be accepting and
to love everybody and find a way to do it and to be giving.
And that's like that was his message and all the years that I was there,
and I think that's really great to me. That's my experience with Christianity,
which I know is different from a lot of people. But I remember
when he left, everybody, you know, the rumors circulated, and then
finally it came out in the newspaper that he had embezzled money from the church.
Why. And it's just so yeah, and it's just so funny to
me because I never felt upset about it. I just never once, like
I just never once felt upset about it. Like I mean, if I
was faced with making any sort of decision in that situation, I'd be weighing
things differently. But he was such like a kind I mean, he was
a human, you know, I don't doubt that it might have happened.
But to me, what he gave to us, children, everybody that I
was with and on my classes, it was it was amazing And to me
came from God like there was nothing weird or shady about it or anything like
that, you know, and he really just preached. So so to me,
that's really funny because it's one of the only times that I'm like,
well, this was wrong, but I don't feel upset about it, because
usually when something's wrong, I'm like, what's going on here? Something needs
to be fixed? Well, yeah, I mean I can't say enough about
the importance of being a pastor, and I do think some people it can
be taken lightly, like I even I've considered. I've reached out the Lancaster
Bible School and some others. It's a huge responsibility. I mean, you're
talking about people's souls. Um, you have to give marriage, you know,
marriage counseling and things of these nature. It's it's a lot. Uh,
It's it's a it's a burden, and it's a it's a heck of
a responsibility. And I have seen firsthand, Um, bad apples destroy churches.
And there are few things as heartbreaking as seeing a church be split in
two. And it's sad enough, um, you know, because I grew
up in a Methodist church, seeing that entire Methodist church just completely crumble,
split in half and break in two. So now there's actually the progressive Methodist
church that you know is LGBT pro and has they have a Methodist church in
Chicago that has drag queen preachers. M I did a whole series on that
on my radio show last year. And then there's the you know, the
the classic Methodist who's still Um, there's a few in our area. But
it's just again, I can't say how important getting the right pastor in your
church is. No, it's it's really true. And I mean I'm not
sure how much control people have over that, but um, yeah, I
really agree, and I've been blessed that I like, I can't believe it.
I'm still just feel like the only way that these great pastors have been
in this church is because there is a God, you know. It's just
amazing. And my pastor now he's like, if you want to talk to
him, if you have questions, if you whatever, like he'll take time
to have a private meeting with you, you know, which at first I'm
kind of like, oh, I don't know if I want to have any
private meetings with anyone to do with the church, you know, just because
I've you know, just because things get stuck in the back of your head.
But he was He's just really such a truly humble person, and all
of them have been. But when COVID happened, he started sending out emails,
which he doesn't typically just do a lot, and he started sending out
emails about We're not supposed to be able to be closed like this, this
is an attack on God and our faith and all this kind of stuff.
And he really was impassioned and wrote some really great things that like made me
be like, Okay, I'm going to church this Sunday just because like this
needs to happen now, you know. And he did services outside and but
you know, he made sure to like try and keep people connected, and
it was really cool because, you know, I talked to him and I
was like, you know, sometimes I just can't make it like I'm not
feeling good. I'm somebody that has a lot of anxiety and it just physically
makes you ill and so and so those times that I'm like, oh,
I can't go to church because I don't feel good, you know, and
it's a bomber. But anyhow, I told him, I was like,
sometimes I can't make it, you know, maybe it'd be cool for the
and for like the old people who are who you know, because old people
are still scared about COVID, which is a tragedy to me that that was
done to them, that the old people that won't come. Maybe you can
just record the sermon and so ever since then, he records his sermons and
puts them on so it's cool. I can I can play it here with
my kids and we can just like do a drawing and make jokes and stuff
like that, and I don't have to keep tell them to be quiet.
That's good. Yeah. A lot of churches have had to adapt and overcome,
and I've heard pastors talking about there they're looking at changing the way how
church is run. Like I don't know about your neck of the woods,
but here, the younger generation is not in the church. When I go
to church down the street, i am I'll be fifty four next week.
I'm the youngest guy in the church. Yeah, that's me too. I'm
always the youngest person in every church that I've been to, and I'm in
my mid thirties, you know, which is relatively young. I don't want
to get started on that about it you're young year old or whatever. Everyone
has their own opinion, but I mean you can learn a lot in that
amount of time. So I agree, yeah, But I mean I definitely
see the cognitive dissonance coming into play with people, like instead of going to
church, like I'm going to join another accepting group, like you know,
the trans group or whatever. You know, I actually live right down the
street from where they have the pride parade, and that doesn't that doesn't bother
me in any way. Like, I mean, I'm from San Diego there
it's had a really large pride movement for a long time, and I've grown
up with people that didn't feel comfortable in their own skin, and I've grown
up with people that were gay and buying all this stuff. It was never
ever the center of attention for our conversations or anything. We learned it about
them, and we accepted it and we went on. You know, it
was just never a big deal. And so for pride, I've always been
like supported whoever was proud, Like why should you should be proud of yourself?
Now, let's turn into a different thing. They've taken this thing that
people have worked really hard to get, the people who worked really hard for
this pride, that deserve to feel this pride, and they've hijacked it and
turn it into a political agenda now and forcing it in with their new world
order, turning the kids to separating the kids away from their parents and away
from real thought. Which is why I feel like, you know, I
just know from personal experience and from watching other people that when you don't feel
like you fit in, the LGBTQ plus community is a very amazing, warm
community. Like they are very amazing and warm and understanding, like they have
been to hell and back and their lives still aren't great. Like they're so
accepting. And I definitely have seen people, maybe even just ten years younger
than me, you know, go to high school and face these dilemmas and
go through these phases and changes, and I mean they go through them rather
quickly. But I would definitely say that a lot of them land in the
in the LGBTQ plus groups, you know, not because they're not legitimate groups,
because they are legitimate groups, but I just feel like they need other
stuff in another place to land before they start addressing their changing their identity and
settling into something so drastic, I mean to say the least right. And
when you said they are running with the agenda, I actually think it's your
state where I don't remember exactly how the law is written. But if you
don't, basically, uh, you know, if you're if your daughter wants
to become a boy and you say no, you're a girl, they can
like physically take custody of the child from you. Hmm. You know,
I really haven't researched that yet. Are you talking about the new thing that's
happening now where Yeah, I know many states are trying to keep the parents
out of the loop altogether, but oh yeah, it's it's disturbing and discussing
and this is like another big reason for homeschool. And the more people that
join homeschool and they realize they're, you know, that have the confidence to
do it, they're going to make it harder to do homeschool. So get
in now is just what I advise, you know, And I get that
it's daunting to think about this big task. You know, I can't be
a teacher. I can't. Well, I guess what. You're not going
to be a teacher. You're not going to be somebody that's going to be
indoctrinating your children. It's okay to teach them a different way. You still
have the state standards you have to meet. Well, in your case,
you really don't have a lot. Me. We have to meet every month.
We have to turn in work samples. They do interviews with the kids,
they do testing. It's really invasive. And there's a schedule that is
agreed upon and printed out every month for the kids to do. And I
mean when I look at it, and I've gotten in trouble with the school,
Like my child has gotten a strike for not turning in all of their
eighty percent of their schoolwork because I told him. I was like, my
kid can't do this. You cannot tell me that when you have kids in
your classroom they get all this done. First of all, I've been a
student. There's no way school is so boring. I can't even deal with
it as a child, even as an adult, you know, So don't
tell me that these kids get all this done. And then you want me
to come do this in the homeschool and environment, because homeschool is promoted as
let's teach your kids learning through experiments and hands on and stuff like that.
But my but California, I know, you said, my state. It's
hard for me to accept that. But yeah, they just they don't they
don't make it. They don't even promote that anymore. There. There's just
like such a serious agenda. So but I mean, I still think the
benefits. I mean, like you said, just handing over your kids to
somebody else. It's just no parent wants to do that if they really think
about what comes of that, you know. Yeah, and certainly in this
day and age, there was a time, you know, where things were
different, or maybe I just saw it as a youngster and didn't see what
was really going on in the bigger picture. But just listening to you talk
about what you have to go through in the state of California, you said
something about received a strike for not turning something in. Is there like some
kind of three strike rule or something. Three strikes and you're expelled from the
school. And this keep in mind, this is when the schools shut down
and they were doing zoom meetings because I have to tell you I've been homeschooling
for the past seven years. Guests. When I decided to give regular school
a try right before coded, oh, no, twenty nineteen. Literally it
was like, I think it was March of twenty twenty, and it was.
It was just three weeks before they shut down and my kids are going.
I mean, it was still it's still the same school that we go
to, and it's a charter school, so it's not the average public school
at all. It feels kind of like a private school. There's a lot
of hands on decision making because it's a charter school. But yeah, so
I was like, I want you guys to go and socialize because I was
worried about them staying here too much. And then boom COVID happened. And
if I would have just stayed with the home study, we wouldn't have gotten
that strike, we wouldn't have had that workload. Everything would have stayed,
you know, just the way it was. But the kids, like my
one son has ADHD and which I highly feel like this isn't just a natural
thing. I feel like whether it be vaccinations contribute to it. The society
the way that children are expected to behave contributes to it. I feel like
it's a it's a reaction to suppression. But yeah, so he you know,
the first day I came to pick to pick up my kid and this
is when he was in kindergarten, and the teacher goes, I need to
talk with you, and I was like, oh, okay, so what
happened? You know? I was kind of expecting something to happen because my
kids are really like, we talk about everything. There's not really anything off
limits for us. We just have to be respectful. But teachers don't like
that. So I was like, what is it going to be? And
she goes, well, he's being really loud. He talks really loud,
And I just busted up laughing because I was like, well, isn't that
you know, like you're gonna have to deal with that. You're the teacher,
Like, this is your job, Zeka get You're lucky that nothing else
even happened. That comes with the territory and teaching children kindergarten too. I
mean like, yeah, before I had kids, I was working at a
preschool and man, that was the best. That was just one of the
best experiences of my life to have a group of children at your fingertips.
Like if you like to hang out with kids and you like to you like
when they get excited, you get excited. It is the best just being
able to hype them up and you just have to keep it going, keep
them entertained, and they're good. But the school doesn't teach that, and
the teachers don't do that, and teachers are really really worried about their jobs
so and keeping their jobs and staying in line. So even at the charter
school, which I've never which I've never I haven't dealt like, I honestly
don't think they're teaching anything like critical race theory. I don't think they're doing
anything like that, just because I personally know all the people who work out
the school because I've dealt with them for so long, and it's really like
a bunch of moms, you know, everyone's a mother, and they all
treat these kids like they're their kids. So I just don't think that that's
they would do it until they had to. But if they have to,
it's going to come out, you know. Yeah, And I do think
these stories that are pushed in the news are not the norm that you know,
they're they're very foreign few between. There's bad apples and every profession,
and you know, when something like that does happen, it gets magnified and
that is the story of the day, and it's all over social media.
But I think for the most part, and I've always believed that most people
who go into the teaching profession do it as a noble cause and they really
want to make a difference in children's lives. Unfortunately, I think they are
handcuffed to a certain extent, you know, with how much they can teach
outside of you know, what's in the rules. I mean, depending on
where they teach. I know there's a lot of private schools where they have
a lot more flexibility, but I also know I think Josh from the Founded
Earth Brothers, I think he just resigned. He was a science teacher for
I don't remember how many years, fifteen or twenty, and he said he
just doesn't have if I recall correctly, I hope I'm not misquoting him.
But you know, every year he has to teach the evolution theory and science
and he just I don't think he could do it with good conscience anymore.
I had heard him in an interview within the last two weeks, you know,
walking away from his profession because he didn't feel right. And that's somebody.
You know. If more of us had like a moral compass or I
should say, the moral courage like that and you know, be strong in
our convictions, we'd be on our way. Yeah, I agree with you,
and I believe that the moral courage is a layer on top of the
moral compass. And you take away the moral courage and that compass, you
start losing connection with it a great one hundred percent. The time has blown
by. I've got about three minutes left. I should probably know. Yeah,
I didn't bring up any of the stuff that I was saying to bring
up. It's we hit the ninety minute mark already. This is this is
how the conversations always go. We'd definitely bring it back, uh, you
know for a part two, Um, just for the the for people to
think about. And what were the other things that you were wanting to talk
about. Well, I mean I really like wanted to get more into the
home study. I really wanted to kind of do like a deeper dive in
it, and um, just more details so people could you know, because
I know that there's a lot of people out there that want to do it,
and I really want you know, there's not a lot of support out
there for it, and you're definitely not going to get it from the school
district or your school. But as a parent and as somebody who sees how
all things are and where they're going, I really think that if you can
homeschool, you really really should, and you don't need to be perfect about
it in any sense. Meet the standards and have a good time with your
kids and make your life better using it. That's you know, kind of
like the basis of it, but with more detail. And then I also
wanted to talk some about NASA, just like have some conversation about it.
But next time, yeah, for sure. And if people do have questions,
particularly about homeschool, Gee's email will be in the show description, and
it's a genonymousmailbox at gmail dot com. And don't worry about figuring out how
it's spelled. I'll have the link in the show description, so you can
just copy it and paste it and email away, and I will tell you.
Like J said, many states will make it seem daunting, but if
there's a will, there's a way, and it's just another obstacle to overcome.
It's one of the greatest decisions I've made in my life. I wasn't
I was like, oh my gosh, homeschooling. It's like, you know,
I'd been in the military of own businesses, and that to me was
like a huge mountain to climb, and in retrospect it was really, I
think the best decision I ever made. Yeah, it's it's honestly really eye
opening. It will really it amazingly helps you connect with your family in a
way that you couldn't do without it. And the relationship you can have with
your children is just it's not commonly. It's a it's an amazing relationship that's
not common, you know, because because parents are so spend so much time
away from their kids. Yeah, please, please, if you if you
have any if you do have specific questions, I mean, I don't know
what I could exactly answer, but I mean I'm definitely here to support and
I'm here to answer any questions that I can answer. But yeah, I
would just say, if anyone's telling you anything from a school, a school
district, of any sort of organization, it's still coming from some level of
agenda because they're all just making money. So don't worry about doing it the
way they say. I know that sounds terrible, but I mean, you
know, just don't take all the pressure that they put on you. You've
you've got to meet their standards. You know, you have your meetings,
you have your work samples, but you know you need to do you And
to me, that's what I think. Homeschool is great to show people that
you really can have a life with your family, you know, even if
you work. People work and do homeschool too. They do homeschool when they
can. How many hours of work does a child actually do in a classroom?
You know? So anyways, George, I'm not going to quit talking,
so um we should probably if you've got to get off of here,
we've probably better get off of here. Yeah you know what A sorry,
I got one more thing. Yeah. Um, you know, on your
podcast the other day, you're like, if you you should start to start
a sell stack, you know, because everybody that listens to it could.
So I went ahead and did that nice and so yeah, I can send
that to you too. And I don't have a lot of time to do
like the in depth researches and having like four four sources to confirm one thing,
like I like to have, but I definitely am like interested in sharing,
you know, and just to have for a record for myself. So
far right now I have on there on from YouTube, I linked a free
audiobook of nineteen eighty four and then also the what's his name? The something
Edward Griffin? Oh g Edward Griffin. I just yeah, I just forty
two minutes ago. He's our classic audio of the night. He interviewed Norman
Dodd. It's a great about a fifty minute interview that's on my classic audio
tonight. It's interesting you mentioned his name. Oh cool, yeah, yeah,
I'll have to check that out. Yeah you know, um yeah.
His his talks are very long because he's got a lot to save. The
way that he breaks it down is like, man, this is when you
start reading that hit his book, The Creature of Zechil Island. It's tremendous.
Yeah. It's like what he starts out, like what is a bank?
And the person answers and you're like, this is what we should have
been learning in preschool, in kindergarten, these are the things we should have
been learning. Compound interest and that a bank only is required to physically hold
ten percent of its deposits. That's it. So if you're working why banks
collapse, that's why. Yeah, and yeah, that's a whole nother conversation.
But I did also find on YouTube it it's cut up into four different
pieces, so there's parts one through four because it's like a twenty four hour
audio book anywhere you look. But yeah, it's there, you know,
so people can have access to it for free, because I think that's really
important. And with these older books, a lot of times you can find
them. So I plan on posting stuff like that and then just also health
stuff and RFK junior stuff because I'm really interested in like what we can do,
you know, what influence do we have on our own lives? So
well, Q gee, it's been wrong. Initially, it's been great one
of the letters. Yeah, it's been great to meet you finally in person,
and I had a great conversation, and you know, we have some
of the same passions with education and to the listeners, listen if they're If
you live in a state with your Cronian rules, like California or Washington State,
find like minded people in your community and get on your state representatives and
make them change the laws, because they're your children and you should be the
one that says you know how and what they are taught. So hopefully this
inspires people to do exactly that. Gee, thank you so much for your
time. It was really great to meet you. Thank you so much,
and thank you so much for your platform. Absolutely, and God bless everyone.
Have a wonderful week and happy fourth and until next time, we will see