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Everyone, Welcome back to a new
episode of the Poker Girl Podcast. My

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name is Donny Peters. I am
joined by Tim Duckworth auctioneer. Tim Duckwar

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Yes, that is right, So
are you ready to go? No,

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not at all. This is hell, but we'll figure it out. What

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we're referring to is Tim will be
the auctioneer for the second year in a

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row four Daniel mcgroni's twenty five K
Fantasy Poker League. The draft is on

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Monday May twenty nine. We will
be live streaming it on poker Grow.

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Today show is going to be all
about that. The twenty five K Fantasy

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Poker League. For those who have
listened to us over the years, both

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on this podcast on some other ones
wherever it is, you've probably seen it

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on social media as well. We
talk about it all the time every single

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summer. The twenty five K Fantasy
Poker League is something that we love,

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We love to follow it, we
love to try and participate in it in

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the years that we've been fortunate enough
to do so. So on this episode

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of the Poker Grow Podcast, we're
gonna be talking all about it. We

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have a conversation with Daniel mcgranew he's
the guy who runs the whole thing.

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We're gonna play that kind of right
away to kick things off. He's a

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huge fantasy guy in general. He's
involved in fantasy hockey. You know,

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he's been involved in fantasy leagues probably
throughout his whole life. He loves running

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this fantasy poker league every single year. So we're gonna talk to him about

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that. Then after that, we're
gonna bring in my drafting teammate, Matt

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Clark. If you're in the industry, you know who Matt Clark is.

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If you're not in the industry,
it's our pleasure to introduce you to Matt

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Clark. He's gonna be alongside me
in the draft room on Monday. With

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the draft room is the Poker Grow
Studio. It's going to be a lot

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of fun. If you want to
watch the live stream, we are streaming

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it live. You can watch Tim
go going on. It's going twice sold,

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all that good stuff, trying to
wrangle the zoo animals that are out

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there yelling and screaming and doing all
sorts of stuff. But you are really

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good at it last year, Okay, really really good at it. We're

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gonna be doing that on the Poker
Go YouTube channels. Head on over to

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YouTube type and Poker Go find the
channel, and don't forget to subscribe to

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the channel because we got a whole
crap ton of content, including a lot

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of live streams coming your way this
summer from the World Series of Poker,

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So you're gonna want to be a
subscriber and get in there for that.

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So before we go to Daniel,
do you have anything, sir, mister

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auctioneer, are you ready to go? Look if you're in this twenty five

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k auction and you thanks, thanks
for listening to the podcast. But if

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you're in it, please speak up, That's all I ask. I feel

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like I'm going deaf in my old
age. But the tables are spread out,

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everyone's got their head down on their
phone. Quiet like Daniel the growing

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one dollar Huh, what's happening?
It's hot to hear everyone. And then

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the us pott is when you have
two competing bids on either side of the

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room. My head it's gone left
to right, back and forth. So

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yes, just help this old man
out. Be nice and clear, be

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nice and loud. Pronounce your words, pronounce these players names. Do me

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a favor. Let's go, all
right, so Tim will be the auctioneer

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on Monday again. You can tune
on into the Pokerio YouTube channel, but

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without further ado, we're gonna throw
it to the conversation with Daniel and then

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we will come on back. All
right, Daniel, thank you for joining

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us here. Talk a bit about
twenty five K Fantasy I know that's it's

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been hot on the top of your
mind, at least judging by your social

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media in the past couple of days, tweeting every single day about this thing.

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For those out there who may not
know, can you just tell him

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a bit about this twenty five K
fantasy league and how it came about.

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When did it start? All right? So, the first year it took

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place, it was actually at Howard
Letterer's house and he ran it and since

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that point he no longer runs for
various reasons. And I took it over

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and have been running it ever since. And it was just kind of like

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you know exactly what it is,
which is like a fun idea, fun

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sweat, kind of a cool idea
to just get everyone to get some buzz

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going. And it's grown into something
much bigger than I would have ever expected.

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Now, a twenty five thousand dollars
buying for a fantasy poker league seems

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quite insane if you think about it. Just has that kind of headlining aspect

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in a vacuum. But it hasn't
stopped this thing. Every single year it

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runs, it gets a good amount
of interests. You've been talking this year

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about how it could potentially have twenty
teams. I mean, why do you

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think people are willing to just spend
twenty five k on this sort of thing?

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Well, I think people don't want
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lot of people after the fact,
they're like, oh, man, I

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want to do that next year,
and they forget. And this is the

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first year, honestly, where I
haven't been reaching out two people to see

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if they want a team. They've
been coming to me in droves. Right.

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Normally I get an interest list of
about twelve to fourteen something like that.

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I've got twenty two people on the
interest list right now. Obviously I

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expect a couple of those to maybe
drop, and you know, not at

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ten, but everyone wants a piece. And again, twenty five k sounds

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like a lot, but over the
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you factor in a lot of teams. What they'll do is they'll you know,

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sell pieces like you do, or
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a team and you know draft together, which is probably a smart idea because

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you know, there is some homework
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Like you don't want to like pick
people that are just not playing a big

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schedule, so you kind of have
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two people there doing that is probably
beneficial. Yeah, So what's your number

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this year? Are you gonna We're
gonna get twenty in this thing? I

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think we're gonna get If I had
to say a number that I would bet

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on right now, I would say, and I picked only one, I

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would say, nineteen is the number
team. You know, the previous high

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I believe was last year fourteen or
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I think fourteen is our previous high. But it will one hundred percent be

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more than that this year, There's
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that's that's wild and then the correct
me if I'm wrong. But I think

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last year was your best finish in
this thing. I think you took second

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to Maria host Team. Yeah,
the very first year when Howard ran and

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I think I min cash and I
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since then, you know, I
didn't cash at all, and everyone,

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oh, you you're it's not fair. I mean in cash once I finally

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cash last year. Actually, my
team was in pole position for most of

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the summer and everyone kind of agreed
that it was like the chalk and then

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Maria host team thinks to Corey Aldemir
came out of nowhere, he wins the

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main event, and boom, all
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in second. But the good news
is I make a lot of side bets

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as well, and the only side
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to Maria's team. But I want
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I won more than first place in
side bets. Yeah, I mean,

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how big do those side bets?
Kid? I want to ask you about

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that more than the first day.
You get some teams that'll do like five

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or ten k, and then you
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then you have some that you know, we'll do fifty thousand dollars on their

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you know, their team versus yours. And what I do for some people

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too, they can't attend the draft
or they want to sweat is I let

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them choose teams against me, so
you know, for example, last year

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there was a Russian guy. He
couldn't come, so he picked like four

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teams for twenty five k apiece against
me, you know, and I take

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the action and we gamble. How
much preparation do you do every single year?

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I know you're a big fantasy guy. You have that fantasy hockey league

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that drafts you know, forever and
ever and ever in advance, So you're

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a big fantasy guy yourself for this
poker league. How much research did you

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put into this thing? I do
a decent amount because I love fantasy,

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as you said, you know,
So one of the ways that I'll give

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people like sort of the gist of
how I do it typically is I'll usually

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make five tiers, and I will
place players into each tier, and I

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make sure not to put a player
into a tier unless I have actually spoken

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to them in some fashion where I
know what their schedule is going to look

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like. So within those five tiers, you know, I will also put

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some red marks of guys specifically that
I'm targeting or girls. You know in

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each tier, and I'll also create
a throwout list. The throwout list is

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a list of players that people will
bid on that I don't want. So

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basically, in the early stages,
if I'd like other people to start spending

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their money, you know, I'm
going to throw out those names and get

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that money out there. So hopefully, you know, for the later stages,

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I've got you know, more more
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pick the guys that I want.
What do you think the average research is

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done by other teams? Well,
I think the research aspect is becoming more

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prevalent. I think, like,
you know, five years ago, people

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didn't do much research at all,
and they would pick people that are not

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playing and whatnot. But now I
think more and more people are starting to

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realize, like, oh yeah,
you know, you want at least message

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people and figure out, like,
you know, some sort of a strategy

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of who you want, because you
can't just show up without a list of

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some sort and just guess and name. Like, if you do that,

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you're you're not going to do very
well. You have a stance on draft

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in yourself. I mean, obviously
I'd love to draft myself, but then

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when you draft me. Obviously,
I'm a guy who's going to go for

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a lot this year. I think
more than I think, I think we're

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going to break records this year in
terms of what. So you know what

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I go for and shande. So
yeah. The thing is when when you

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pick yourself, it's sort of,
you know, forces your strategy to be

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like stars and scrubs because you're gonna
spend on me. You're gonna spend over

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one hundred and ten for sure,
and that doesn't leave a lot of room

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to get a lot of big horses. So I typically don't take I've taken

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myself maybe once or twice. I
think I'm a good horse obviously, but

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you know it doesn't come cheap.
And obviously you're investing in yourself anyway,

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I mean playing the tournaments severed in
the fantasy. So yeah, it's not

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like I need the motivation to play
more because I bear acted myself. No,

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of course I get it. David
Baker aka od B in the poker

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world, so he started kind of
this offspring fantasy league that was based on

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the twenty five K fantasy prices.
We now all refer to that as the

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ODB Fantasy. There's also a twenty
five hundred dollar fantasy league that runs.

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Do you think fantasy poker could ever
become a thing that's kind of adopted more

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mainstream. I mean, it could
be if it's done right. But you're

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right, like I really think that's
what sort of grew the fantasy beyond what

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I expected, because what David did
really took it to another level where everyone

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can buy in for just like five
hundred bucks and and create teams. And

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then Mark reg Rich's league that he
does the twenty five hundred that's grown in

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numbers as well. So I like
the idea of like sort of you know

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leagues with you using our format,
you know, and then they can sort

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of create their own. But years
ago, what I used to do,

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which was kind of fun, as
I used to group players and I would

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do this like ten k free role
for people, and maybe I should have

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done it this year, where you
know, you pick players and things like

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that. Fantasy's been sort of tried
in you know, in small doses or

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whatnot. I don't know that we
whoever, like gotten it exactly right,

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but I think it's fun. I
mean I think about it, right,

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like when you watch sports and you
have money on the line. In some

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regard, it makes it more interesting, right, Like it makes the sweats,

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it makes you know, you could
watch the broadcasts on Poker Go and

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you see, oh my god,
there's my guy. You know, I

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want to root for him. I
need more points. I think it adds

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a little. I think it adds
a lot of buzz honestly to the World

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Series of Poker. Yeah. I
mean I obviously I try and get in

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the twenty five K Fantasy I do
some ODB teams myself. I mean,

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I love Fantasy Poker. I'm with
you, Like, I just don't think

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it has really been flushed out yet
to be done totally right, that it

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could take off. But I think
a lot of people would tune in and

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watch this sort of stuff and have
some skin in the game if that was

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available to them. Um, we're
gonna be streaming it this year on Poker

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Grow on the YouTube channel. It's
going to be taking place inside the Poker

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Grow studio. That what I'm referring
to here is the twenty five K Fantasy

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Draft. For many years, this
thing took place um various spots. I

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think most recently before the studio was
at a conference room over at area and

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then it switched over to the studio. You're obviously a huge fan of the

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Poker Grow Studio of course. Um, you know, being an ambassador,

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being in the in the PGT events, all of that sort of stuff.

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Um, what do you think about
that venue just hosting this having last year

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been the first year and now this
year the second year. I think it's

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the most It's the perfect venue.
It's central. You know, everyone unders.

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You know, most of the guys
who are in the pool have been

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in the studio before. They're very
accommodating for us. And you know,

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having the live stream I think is
kind of essential part of it because you

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wouldn't believe, like how many people
really want to be drafted, Like it's

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almost there. There is something about
being in the club, of being chosen,

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like, yeah, I have people
reaching out to me, you know,

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saying, please draft me for a
dollar, look at my schedule,

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all this sort of thing. There's
there's sense of pride. In addition to

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that, what you find is you
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of the team feeling somewhat obligated when
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I see it all the time right
where you know they don't want to

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let the team down the draft of
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them play double the events. That's
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a World Series of Poker Buzz perspective, I think a lot of people play

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more events because they're you know,
involved in the fantasy. Yeah, I

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mean, I love that aspect of
it. We've definitely drafted people over the

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years who are like, I'm in
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it for you guys. You know. On the other side, I've seen

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the I've seen the letdown on a
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even if they do get drafted,
maybe they didn't get drafted for the price

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that they thought they would have gone
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see. But I love that side
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bit different this year. You have
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aren't going to be eligible to drafted. Some are on the list for obvious

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reasons, others are just people that
have said, hey, I'm not playing

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this year. You know what was
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Well, we've had it happened last
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that he won't be playing. He
had some personal issues, he wasn't going

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to play. Everyone knew that Ryan
Reese didn't know that he threw him out

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for a dollar, and it just
felt bad, Like it's happened several times

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years ago. The Russian guy named
Gipsy picked a couple of players that everyone

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knew weren't going to come. And
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taste in people's mouth. And the
argument people have is like, listen,

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if you're putting up twenty five K, do your research. And I get

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that, but this is supposed to
be about fun. You know, we're

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not trying to kill each other with
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fun thing and at least and I
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if we just have a list of
people who you know, you know,

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we know are not playing this year, and then in addition, a couple

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of people specifically who maybe people feel
morally uncomfortable about choosing, you know that

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they don't want to, and then
it can give an advantage to a team

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that doesn't care. Right, So
just like, don't let them take part,

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you know, and there's two names
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that Jacob. Outside of that,
everyone else that's on that list, And

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I reworked it because some people complained
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man, people are gonna think,
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So I made sure I just tweeted
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avoided by the Commissioner, which is
me, are two people, Jake and

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Ali. All the rest that are
not that are on the list are people

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that have expressed to me that they're
not playing this year, so they're not

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going to be eligible. Because what
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for example, you know, a
good player says, yeah, guys,

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I'm not playing this year, right, But he tells his buddy,

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he tells you, Donnie to Rod, Donnie, you should draft me for

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a buck because I'm gonna play everything. And all of a sudden, you

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take him for a block, and
it's like, wait a minute. You

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know you lied to us, you
told everyone you're gonna we weren't gonna play,

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and now you did so just to
just to make things a little,

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you know, even more fair than
than they maybe could could have been in

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the past. Yeah, that makes
sense. I remember being in the room

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last year in the studio and Ryan
restrafted Krissovitch. We all, I mean,

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I think we all felt bad at
the end of the day that he

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didn't he wasn't aware of what was
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a general dubs a p note,
are you ready? We're a couple of

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days away now. But I mean, I'm just for contwittling my thumbs obviously

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like doing some you know, last
minute research for the fantasy stuff, but

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really just trying to be healthy.
I sort of I came down with something

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at one of the games, and
I was kind of sick for about a

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week, so I couldn't work out
regularly and whatnot. But I'm glad to

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get that flushed out of my system
before the series because once it starts,

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it's go time, baby, Like
I just cannot wait. The vlogs will

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be rolling, We'll be in there
right off the bat. The first two

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weeks is a lot of big stuff. I think in the first six days

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you've got three twenty five k buy
in, so you know it's there.

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There's an opportunity to make a dent
right off the bat. Do you ever

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do you set any specificsp goals every
year or is it just win brais,

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let's win money. I used to
write a blog, I'm sorry, a

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blog which is so outdated, and
I would post it in January every year

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was sort of like eight to ten
specific goals that I wanted to do throughout

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the year, and I didn't.
I haven't been doing that lately because my

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goal is simple. My goal is
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Because with that, people say,
well, don't you care about bracelets?

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And I'm like, if I win
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come along with it. Right.
It's very unlikely that you win Player of

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the Year without winning at least one
bracelet. It's difficult to do so,

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you know. So that's my focus
is to, you know, do my

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best to win Player of the Year. But I don't. I don't go

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as hard as Sean, deeb and
Dan Zach because I don't play the big

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field events, you know. I
just focus on the bigger high rollers and

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you know, the mixed game type
events. And then you're obviously a Gig

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Poker ambassador. Gig Poker works very
closely as a sponsor of thesp One of

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the things that's really been pushed this
year. I've even seen you out there

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pushing it a bit as largest WSP
main event ever, trying to break that

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two thousand and six record that was
the year that Jamie Gold won. It

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won twelve million dollars for that one. I think the field was eight thousand

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and seven hundred and seventy three.
How confident are you that the record will

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break this year? And what's your
number? So what was the record?

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It was eight seven to seven three. Yes, I think it's gonna be

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eight nine seven three exactly two hundred
people more. And I think part of

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the reason is I think the World
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happen Internally GG as you mentioned,
it is going to be sending I think

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six hundred people. You know,
there are other venues that are, you

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know, doing seats for people.
So I really think there's gonna be a

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big push. There's been so much
interest in poker since COVID. Really it's

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sort of been the second boom,
the second money maker boom to a certain

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degree, and I think it's hot. I think I think if people put

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like one event on their bucket list, it's the main event of the World

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Series Poker has to be right.
Are you gonna do better than last year?

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I think I did pretty bad last
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the odds are in my favor.
You know that I'll do better than last

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year. You've obviously been in poker
for who knows how long, you've had

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so much success, But when you
bust the main event, does it still

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hurt? You know, it hurts
more when you're in it. Last year

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didn't sting as much because, like
I think I busted with Kings against Aces

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really early on, so I never
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like when you're deep on day three
or day four and you're grinding fifteen twenty

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bigs for days, you know,
just hanging around, hanging around, and

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then you know when you finally go, it's that that stings a lot,

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a lot more, a lot more. So, gotcha all right, Daniel,

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thank you for joining us. We
heard your number eighty nine hundred and

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seventy three, two hundred more than
the record in two thousand and six.

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We'll see if that comes to fruition. My number is ninety four hundred,

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just putting that out there. Talked
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we'll see if that one comes in. Either way, it would be a

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massive win to break that record,
and hopefully we'll see it happen. Yeah,

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I bet on it. All right, Thank you very much Daniel for

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coming on. You got it.
But all right, man, that was

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Daniel. If we get eighteen to
twenty teams, it would be awesome.

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I know it'll be a lot more
work for you overall. I'm gonna be

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a lot more people to control.
Yeah, the draft will go for a

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long time. But yeah, I've
always felt my strategy going in for this

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thing is the best suited the more
teams that are in the draft, um,

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because I feel like I can always
go deeper into the player pool than

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probably ninety five percent of the teams
that are going to be out there drafting,

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find some true diamonds in the rough, some bargain basement dollar picks that

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have huge potential. I'm happy to
do that. So so, yeah,

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I'm rooting for twenty five teams that
like, that's what I'm going like,

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I'm just in the studio. If
it's I don't know, we'll make the

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space. We'll figure it out throughout
the summer. You guys can follow along

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on twenty five k Fantasy dot Com. They do a great job of tracking

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everything and they got the rules listed
there, the scoring system, they'll have

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the prize pool up there. Again, that's twenty five k Fantasy dot Com.

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And then if you're on Twitter,
you can throw a follow to twenty

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five k Fantasy for even more updates, tweeting stuff out throughout the summer,

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interacting and engaging all that sort of
stuff. I know we're all going to

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be glued to the World Series of
Poker and this is sort of the game

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within the game that we love.
It's played for high stakes we love to

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get and of course Tim and I
will be talking about twenty five K Fantasy

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throughout the summer as well. So
he's at tram Stop on Twitter, and

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then there's a zero for the O
and Stop and I'm Donnie Underscore Peters.

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So you guys can give us a
follow as well if you want to follow

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along. Just quickly, want to
run down the past winners before we get

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into this interview with my draft mate
Matt Clark. So this has been running,

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as you guys heard from Daniel Howard
Letter actor started this thing, which

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is like kind of crazy. Daniels
since taking it on. It's been going

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every year since two eleven, except
for twenty twenty that was a pandemic year

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there wasn't a live World Series Poker, and also twenty twenty one it didn't

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take place that year. That was
the year that Dan Zach picked up the

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torch and ran like his little Fantasy
League. Last year, defending champion team

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Maria Ho. Maria Ho was in
the draft room along Karai Aldemere eleven hundred

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and forty points, taking home with
two hundred K first place prize. Twenty

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nineteen. Last years I had fourteen
entries, two thousand nineteen had twelve entries.

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Ryan Reese's team won twelve hundred and
four points. That is the most

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points ever in twenty five K Fantasy
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars first place

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prize for Mister Rees. Two eighteen
team Dan Fleischman fifteen entries that year fifteen

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nine hundred and thirty seven points for
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hundred K first place prize. Two
thousand and seventeen, only eight teams that

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year. Mike Least team was on
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He took home one hundred and thirty
K. Don't think we're getting eight teams

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this year. I think we're probably
gonna double that at least. Twenty sixteen

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eleven teams Team Daniel Allahi nine hundred
and eighty five points, one hundred and

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fifty K first place prize. Twenty
fifteen also eleven squads out there in twenty

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five K Fantasy Team Brian Hastings topping
them all eight hundred and twenty three points,

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one hundred and eighty thousand dollars in
the bank. Twenty fourteen twelve team.

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A team that I don't think I've
seen in a while, Team Gypsy,

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the Russian team, I don't think. I mean they were supposed to

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be Yeah, they were supposed to
be here around, but they couldn't make

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it out in time. Whatever the
case was. Um, maybe we'll see

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them back this year. Would be
great to have them back. Kind of

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wouldn't want them back because I always
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of stuff going on around in the
industry. So, you know, selfishly

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speaking, it's obviously good to have
more teams than the prize, but but

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this is I think one of the
better teams this year that they won it

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was two thousand and fourteen. I
bebe that was a year away, like

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some Russians crushed. Yeah, of
course, UM seven hundred and seventy points

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for seven hundred and seventy seven points
for them, one hundred and thirty five

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thousand dollars for first place. There
was twelve teams that year. Twenty thirteen,

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fourteen teams Team Matt Waxman won it
eight hundred and twenty one points two

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hundred and ten thousand dollars. I
gave a little draft insight to Matt Waxman

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that year, So that's I guess
my feather in the cap for being along

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for the ride to Matt Waxman's win. In twenty thirteen, twenty and twelve

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eleven teams Team Jason Mercy Or top
them all six hundred and five points,

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the lowest winning point total ever in
twenty five K Fantasy. I'm assuming there

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was like something different with a scoring
back then, one hundred and seventy eight

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thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars
for the win there. Twenty eleven,

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the first year of twenty five K
Fantasy under Daniel Lagrandew team Jason Somerville and

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Jason Mercier. They were teamed up
together the eight hundred and seventy one points

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for the win two hundred and twenty
five k in the bank. I'm ready

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to go this year, Daniel tweeted
out, like a basically a long list

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of like what the payouts would be
if depending on the entries that you would

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get in the field. I guess
I'll start with like, I think fourteen

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is probably a good baseline to Star
Wars. So if there's fourteen teams this

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year, it's gonna be top three
payout two hundred K first, one hundred

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k, second, fifty K for
third. It's three payouts all the way

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up until there's nineteen teams. If
there's nineteen or more teams, there's going

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to be at least four payouts.
If you get up to so I said,

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fourteen teams is a two hundred K
first place prize. If you get

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fifteen teams, that additional twenty five
K would go to first place of two

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hundred and twenty five k to first, second, third stay the same at

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one hundred and fifty k each.
Sixteen teams is going to be two hundred

409
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.319
and fifty k to first, and
then one hundred fifty one hundred to second

410
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:22.640
and fifty to third. But if
you get up to nineteen teams, which

411
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:26.079
seems like possible this year, it's
gonna pay four and first place it's going

412
00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:29.759
to be a quarter of a million
dollars two hundred and fifty k. So

413
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:36.200
it's gonna be pretty crazy. The
largest first place prize that he listed was

414
00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:41.079
twenty four teams who would pay the
top four and would pay three hundred k

415
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.160
to first. We're not getting twenty
four, not a chance. I mean,

416
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.240
who the hell knows, Like you
never know, Like I feel like

417
00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.799
we always have high hopes going into
it that we're gonna get a lot of

418
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.440
teams. Some teams don't show up
back out, who knows, you know.

419
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.000
It's like it's like anything people.
You know, you're saying you're having

420
00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:00.079
a barbecue on Saturday, everyone's going
to come. Then you know, twelve

421
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.640
people don't show up. Well,
whatever it is saying with weddings all that

422
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.599
sort of stuff, that's that's just
how it is. So but it sounds

423
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.799
like speaking with Daniel you guys heard
him earlier on the podcast that we're gonna

424
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.920
get a really big turnout. So
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say seventeen.

425
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:19.880
That's my number. Seventeen teams in
this thing, and I can't wait.

426
00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:25.279
Now, let's bring in Matt Clark. He's my teammate, my draft

427
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:29.960
mate for this year's twenty five K
Fantasy Poker League entry. So let's talk

428
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.279
to Matt right now, all right, now, we are joined by my

429
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:41.000
draft mate, Matt Clark, probably
the guy who was the genesis of this

430
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.920
team, because I didn't know if
I was going to get into the twenty

431
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.160
five K Fantasy this year, had
a couple of people reach out, didn't

432
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:49.640
know if I was going to do
it. Matt was asking if I was

433
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:52.160
going to get in, if he
wanted a team up with him, And

434
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:56.440
here we are. We're in there, we sold our action, We're in

435
00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.599
the dance. We'll see you guys
on the Poker Girl livestream on Monday.

436
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.079
So how you doing, Matt.
I'm doing great. This strategy of finding

437
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.240
you as a teammate worked out a
lot better than my normal strategy of just

438
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.960
walking into the studio, chatting with
some friends and then asking them if I

439
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.519
can buy a percentage of their team
on the spot and draft with them,

440
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:21.319
so this worked out much better.
Yeah, well you better bring the research,

441
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:25.920
better be prepared. I'm bringing the
research. I'm bringing the tea leaves,

442
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:30.359
checking the injury reports, checking Twitter. I think the investors can feel

443
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:34.400
in good hands with me and you
at the helmet. I definitely want to

444
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:41.400
thank the investors. Holy cow,
seventy five selling in five days is wild

445
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.359
to me. That's really cool.
And yeah, hopefully we give you guys

446
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.079
a good sweat, and I want
to let the investors know that they are

447
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:52.039
in even better hands with one of
our investors. We have Mac Lance,

448
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.559
who was a kindness by a piece. Mac Lance is obviously the man,

449
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.000
but he's also very lucky. If
you guys don't remember, Mac Lance pulled

450
00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:03.880
the million dollar boundy last year.
So just my osmosis having Mac Lance being

451
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.880
one of our investors being super lucky, all the players we draft, I

452
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.400
think will inherently be lucky as well, so it's an all around wind win

453
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.440
for Like, I don't know one
hundred different people because of Mac Lance,

454
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.000
So yeah, I think I think
we got a lot of luck on our

455
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.519
side in terms of investors. I
know who a few of them are,

456
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:23.640
obviously there's a lot of people on
poker stake dot Com who I don't know

457
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.720
who they are, but I'm assuming
everyone's lucky. I'm just gonna I'm gonna

458
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.160
go with the fact that mac glance
is lucky. Some of these other guys

459
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.720
are lucky as well, So yeah, we're bringing all the luck this year.

460
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:38.519
Personally, I've never felt more confident
going into a draft for than this

461
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:44.640
year. I think a large part
of that is because I'm teamed up with

462
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.400
you and like the conversations that we've
been having throughout so far. Like,

463
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:49.720
I like the questions you're asking,
I like where your head is at,

464
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.279
I like some of the guys that
you want to target, maybe some of

465
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.400
the guys you want to fade,
all that sort of stuff. So I

466
00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.440
feel like this is the year that
finally a team that involved when does something

467
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:06.039
which would would be epic because it
sounds like this is going to be the

468
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.960
biggest year ever. I know Daniel's
targeting eighteen to twenty teams, which would

469
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.960
just be absolutely bananas, So I'm
looking forward to it. Yeah, I

470
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.440
mean too, twenty teams would just
be wild. I mean that's one hundred

471
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.960
and sixty players they get drafted,
so you're gonna get pretty deep on who

472
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.920
might be available. And I think
it'll be kind of cool too to see

473
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.640
what other teams who are there,
not only like the new faces involved,

474
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.559
but who they target, because just
by seeing who some players are that these

475
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.240
teams bring up, it helps give
us more information too, which is always

476
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:38.240
good to have when you're drafting that
many players. So, yeah, it'll

477
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.200
be a new dynamic, but it's
gonna be a long draft too, So

478
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:47.200
I guess be better or some food
or something while we're there. Do you

479
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:52.000
want to know who isn't lucky to
be part of this team? That is

480
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.559
Rin came a Matt. You've kicked
him out, You've thrown Remco to the

481
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.599
sidelines, You've taken any seat.
Come on, how do you feel about

482
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.039
that? You must be a little
bit sad, sit a little bit of

483
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.720
a tea. I didn't do anything
to Remco. I just reached out to

484
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.920
Diet to ask if he wanted to
get the draft together. And I'm not

485
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.680
sad either. I'm ready to go. I feel like I got the best

486
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:18.599
teammate. Maybe he was the bad
luck, yeah getting rid of him,

487
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.880
Yeah maybe maybe. And before that
it was or trying. It was Mickey

488
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.039
Doff, it was all these guys
you know that were involved before. I

489
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.240
mean, that's just how it is. But I feel like this year,

490
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.160
and I also know that, you
know, Matt, as he mentioned,

491
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:36.559
has been involved in the draft process
before, He's been involved with teams before.

492
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:41.039
He's certainly in touch with poker and
what's happening out there and all this

493
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.039
sort of stuff. So you know, I feel like I have a really

494
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.759
good partner who's very much in tune
with what we're trying to do for this

495
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:52.680
draft. I like our strategy going, and I've always felt throughout all of

496
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.880
the years doing this thing that the
strategy that I kind of want to go

497
00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:00.720
with would be best suited if there
was as many teams as possible on this

498
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.000
I just feel like I can always
go deeper than a lot of other teams.

499
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.319
So I'm ready for that. And
then you know, I also got

500
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.599
somebody like Matt here who has a
really good finger on the pulse of the

501
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.720
industry. Checks a lot of boxes
in terms of you know, player outreach,

502
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.559
knowing who's good, who's not good, all that sort of stuff.

503
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.319
So I'm I'm ready to go.
I'm basically spending the money that I'm gonna

504
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.000
win already, which is a super
bad sign anytime you head into any sort

505
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.640
of fantasy draft, whether it's poker, whether it's football, baseball, whatever

506
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.759
the heck you're doing out there.
I'm honestly, I've never felt more confident,

507
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:38.559
which is kind of just petrifying to
me. So yeah, I'm feeling

508
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.319
pretty confident too. And actually,
oh Remco a thank you, because he

509
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.240
was the only way that I made
money on last year's draft, because I

510
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:52.000
lost my overall just entry I was
on. I drafted with Josh k and

511
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.359
Chat Eves Sledge last year. I
think we finished like eighth or so,

512
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.680
we ran out of steam weight and
then I lost to no Gamble, No

513
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.759
Few your team, Brenton Jeff because
they got more points than us. And

514
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.880
then yeah, I just won the
last longer money or not last longer but

515
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.240
more points money versus Remco. So
yeah, it ended up being a nice,

516
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:12.839
a nice little break even slate last
year. So hopefully we can just

517
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.759
finish in the positive um just quickly, I guess, I guess I want

518
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:21.839
to kind of rewind it. Why
don't you just tell the people a little

519
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:23.559
bit about who you are your time
in the industry, all that sort of

520
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.000
stuff, so people, you know, they know you more than just a

521
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.200
name, more than just Matt Clark. Well, thanks for teaming me up,

522
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.319
Donny. Yeah, I've been in
the industry for it's almost crazy to

523
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.200
say, like close to ten years
now, which is freaking wild to me.

524
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:45.599
I was in wsp A Live Reporting
twenty fifteen and then have kind of

525
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.000
have been in the industry since since. Since then, basically I would like

526
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:53.160
a little bit of a stint in
the in the PR world thrown in.

527
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:59.279
But yeah, I worked for WPT
for a couple of years right after right

528
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.839
after you answered out of that role. I took over there you had a

529
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:07.480
great ship in place, and then
from there I transferred over to Poker Stars

530
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:12.079
US a couple of years ago.
So yeah, as it currently stands up

531
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.200
with Poker Stars US do marketing for
them. If you're in Pennsylvania, Michigan

532
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.480
and New Jersey, it's a great
place to play if you have online poker

533
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:23.000
available to you there. So yeah, that's kind of it right now.

534
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:29.240
Can you tell the Poker Stars people
to get into Nevada already? We're dying

535
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:30.880
over here, Tim and I are
dying over here. We're ready to go.

536
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.319
We're ready to play something other than
VISP dot com. Not that the

537
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:37.960
game's ONSP dot com aren't good,
and we play there a lot, but

538
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:42.519
you know, competition drives the marketplace
to new heights, and then that's what

539
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:46.160
we're rooting for here. So do
what you can. My man, you

540
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:50.200
want to be in as many places
as possible. Who doesn't, No,

541
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.400
of course, of course, I
guess general thoughts on the draft, any

542
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:59.359
any kind of takes going in,
anything you're expecting. I mean, I'll

543
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.799
say that, don't give away too
many secrets, you know. I know

544
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:07.039
we're going to keep things rather close
to the vest of overall through our conversation,

545
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.160
but you know, some general surface
stuff that's probably not too surprising to

546
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:12.640
people we can we can share with
people. So if you have anything you

547
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.880
want to you want to drop,
let us know. Yeah, I guess

548
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.200
I would just say that it's going
to be a good year. I think

549
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.839
to buy low on some players who
maybe didn't do so well last year,

550
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.079
but if they're going to play the
same schedule again ideally, then maybe those

551
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:29.759
are some of the guys you could
look at. Tournament variants is obviously wild

552
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.079
year to year save for a couple
of guys who somehow continue to crush.

553
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:37.240
But you know, for the majority
of the group out there, uh yeah,

554
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:38.839
you could have a bad summer or
even a bad fantasy summer, even

555
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.599
if it's good financially for you.
So so yeah, I think that's one

556
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.519
of the things to keep an eye
on, is you know, if you

557
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.240
suspect someone's gonna play a similar schedule
and you know they've had good years in

558
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.599
the past, maybe this will be
the year that they that they crack on

559
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.079
for the for the fantasy points.
But yeah, I mean, who wouldn't

560
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.160
want to draft the player who ends
up getting three bracelets this year? Is

561
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.279
I heard one of you guys predict, you know, hopefully that player ends

562
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:04.519
up on our team. That would
be amazing. Why are you laughing?

563
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:09.639
Tim's laughing over here? I mean
everyone wants him, like good luck,

564
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.320
we're talking about Daniel, right,
I mean, it's but not everyone wants

565
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.639
him, because you'll get into the
room. Everyone will want Daniel for forty

566
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.840
dollars, which is never happening in
a bazillion years. But then once he

567
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:22.920
gets up to the price point of
like what Daniel is gonna go for there's

568
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:28.079
like two teams going for it.
Like that happens every single year. It's

569
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.519
always really interesting going into the draft, is that you have you have.

570
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:37.519
You always end up with like two, three, maybe four teams in an

571
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.920
extreme situation that are like willing to
spend into the three figures. I'm always

572
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:45.159
in that group. I'm always blasted
one hundred and twenty bucks, one hundred,

573
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.280
ten bucks, whatever it is on
somebody trying to get somebody big and

574
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.920
going from there. I've I'll be
honest, I've been I've been held back

575
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:58.800
in previous years by my co owners. Last year I was held back by

576
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.239
Remco in some spot when I wanted
to basically spend one hundred and seventy dollars

577
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:05.800
on Daniel Nagrano and say, f
everyone else, I'll find one dollar players

578
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.000
because I believe in myself. Another
year, I was doing the draft with

579
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:12.440
Rich Ryan shout out, Rich,
I know you're listening. I gotta call

580
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.480
you out for this one. So
Rich wasn't there physically in the draft room

581
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.400
with me. I was in the
draft room. Rich I had on headsets

582
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.800
with me and we were listening to
the He was listening to the audio as

583
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.760
we were going, and I was
bidding on Stephen Schidwick and rich kept telling

584
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:29.840
me in my ear too much,
too much, and I would kept going

585
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.360
a dollar higher, and I think
I was, I want to say,

586
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:35.280
I was going back and forth with
Daniel. So like Daniel sitting in the

587
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.719
front of the room, just so
to paint the picture. Everyone was in

588
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:43.559
a conference room for this one at
Aria, and everyone other than Daniel is

589
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:49.239
sitting in like rows of tables facing
forward, facing a giant screen that has

590
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.360
like the presentation of the Google doc
to show like who's drafted the teams,

591
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.920
etc. And then Daniel sits in
the front and faces the room. Okay,

592
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:59.280
so I'm just like ten feet from
Daniel, like facing him, going

593
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.400
back and forth like one eleven,
one, twelve, one thirteen, you

594
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.280
know backboard, Yeah, for Steven
Schidwick and Riches screaming in my ear,

595
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:13.239
yelling about the whole thing. Um, I backed off, didn't get him.

596
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.800
Steven should ends up bombing out that
year. So you know, good

597
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.800
thing that I didn't get him,
I guess, um, But that was

598
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.119
my that year, My my one
of my big guns, one of my

599
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:28.599
top three guys was Shitwick. Um
he's playing everything like he normally does,

600
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.119
blasting away hadn't like he hadn't won
yet, Like kind of going to what

601
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:35.719
you're saying, Matt, where it's
like these guys that you know might be

602
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.559
on the radar, but people don't
necessarily believe in them, for maybe they

603
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:42.360
haven't won at all, maybe they
had a down year like all that sort

604
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.320
of stuff. And I was just
like, Childwick has to break through at

605
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:47.159
some point. He's that good,
like he has to. It just has

606
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.079
to happen. It happens to everyone
at some point. Every dog has its

607
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.440
day, right, So that was
my thinking there, But I was held

608
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:57.639
back by Rich, I guess rightfully. So so you know, I can't

609
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.119
get on Rich too much because we
did not pull the trigger on Stephen Schitwick.

610
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:05.400
But I've always been a believer that, you know, you can draft

611
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.480
someone for how many guys do you
draft eight? You know, you could

612
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:13.320
pay one hundred and ninety three dollars
for one person and then find one dollar

613
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.440
players if if you had to,
Like I believe that I can go deep

614
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:20.119
enough into the player pool to find
one dollar players to make it for the

615
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.360
points. If it ever came to
that. It's never going to come to

616
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.400
that, but just saying that that's
a possibility at some point. Yeah,

617
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:30.840
without giving away too much. I
think the way the way the event buyings

618
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.679
are set up now, if you're
like really honed in and like, I

619
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:38.480
don't think anyone really like has this
ability to like belly be an oracle of

620
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:44.000
knowing, like everyone schedule like down
to a t on on all the streams

621
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.280
they'll cross, but just between like
all the mixed game events and all the

622
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:51.159
no limit and all the PLO events, and you throw a little bit of

623
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:55.280
online in there with higher buy Instra
worth one point five points then the fifteen

624
00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:00.719
hundreds, etc. I think you
realistically could do the one nine three plus

625
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.519
the seven the seven bench guys,
but man, it's tough. It's gonna

626
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.840
be really interesting to see how how
like the first couple of players go off

627
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:09.679
and it's at the tone. But
yeah, I guess, like I'm curious,

628
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.480
like what would you say, like
the ear guesses for the highest dollar

629
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:20.280
amount that someone goes for this year
one thirty one thirty really and if he's

630
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.400
not, if it's not one thirty, then then everyone in the draft room

631
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.840
was an idiot As far as I'm
concerned. I mean, I think I

632
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:32.719
want that. I think Daniels should
go for one thirty or thereabouts. Now,

633
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.199
Sean deeb is it's always it's it's
no like we're not giving away you

634
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.400
know, state secrets here, Dan
Nani and Shaan Deeber like the one and

635
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.280
two, the one A, the
one be like there, you wouldn't put

636
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:50.519
dan Zak in there. Um.
So my thing with dan Zach is I

637
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:54.239
would question volume. And the reason
why I say that is because he won

638
00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:00.519
WSC Player of the Year. So
does he pull back a little bit?

639
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:01.679
He was pushing for Dubs to be
Player of the Year, and he did

640
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:05.199
things like selling for the two hundred
and fifty k super high Rollers that he

641
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.280
would never do in another year,
I don't think right, So that sort

642
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:13.079
of stuff, I think I might
put him as like on that Tier two,

643
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.480
it's not that far behind. Don't
get me wrong. This isn't like

644
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.119
a massive lead between Tier one and
Tier two. But I think those two

645
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:23.639
guys are just up there kind of
in a group amongst themselves, and then

646
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:28.719
it's everyone else. The question was
Sean deep I think on everyone's mind,

647
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:31.039
this isn't just a question that I
have. I think everyone is wondering how

648
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.880
is the weight loss of bet going
to affect him? And I know Matt

649
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.360
and I have talked about it and
we have our ideas on how it will

650
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.559
affect him. But I think people
are either gonna be like, it's gonna

651
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.440
affect him, he's not gonna do
as well, or they might land on

652
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.400
the side, Oh it's more of
a motivation. So like whatever side of

653
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:51.519
that coin you fall on, I
think that might ultimately hold back Sean Deep's

654
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.920
price a little bit. Basically,
less teams will be willing to go toe

655
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:59.119
to toe for him. You only
need two teams. But ultimately somebody I

656
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.119
think might get a little gun shy
when it comes down to it. And

657
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:05.880
I think, I mean, Daniel's
an open book, right. He puts

658
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.519
out his package every single year,
he puts out the events that he's playing.

659
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:09.800
He's playing a one point eight million
dollars package. We know he's going

660
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:13.960
to be in everything, so we
know he's a good player. We have

661
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:15.719
an idea that he's due. He
hasn't want to bracelet in the US and

662
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.039
forever, so like at some point
it's got to happen, right, you

663
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.760
know, So I think that I
think that he'll be the most expensive player,

664
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.239
and he generally is, you know, so so yeah, yeah,

665
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.599
it's fair. I just looking at
last year, there's a difference of one

666
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.039
dollars between Sean and Daniel. And
I know Sean had a team last year.

667
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:37.000
It'd be cool to have him have
a team this year. So you

668
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.519
know, if he like really goes
for himself, that's like kind of a

669
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.400
good sign for him, right.
So yeah, And honestly, I have

670
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.159
no I have no issue saying that
I think Daniel will go for one hundred

671
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:50.639
and thirty. And I have no
issue saying, you know, earlier,

672
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:52.519
just a few moments ago, when
I said that we're one of the teams

673
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.719
that will likely be willing to pay
up for players. But that's because I

674
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.679
believe in our strategy of being able
to dig into the trench is and find

675
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.400
like two dollar players, three dollar
players, people that we can talk to

676
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.639
that are going to put in the
volume that we need, that have a

677
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.880
high ceiling, that sort of stuff, Whereas a lot of other people out

678
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:14.599
there, like even if somebody outbids
up me for Daniel NAGRONI let's say,

679
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.119
let's say that's how it happens,
I'm ultimately like, you know what,

680
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:20.239
I'm gonna pass on him, or
somebody does something insane, like we're getting

681
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.360
up to an insane number and they
just overbid by like fifteen dollars, like

682
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:28.800
something astronomically crazy. Well, okay, fine, But like I'm confident that

683
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:30.920
you're not going to be able to
find other players to fill in your team

684
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:35.559
adequately, So I'm not too worried
about it. I don't know. Maybe

685
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:37.639
I'm just being a little bit too
cocky here, maybe I'm getting a little

686
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.920
crazy. Who knows. Yeah,
I think I might have to get in

687
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.880
your ear on draft day about going
for one hundred and fifty on Daniel.

688
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:45.719
But we'll get to that. We'll
get to that point when it gets there.

689
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:49.079
I'm just curious, like, how
are you guys playing to set up

690
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.880
the studio to fit twenty teams?
Like are we gonna have like rafters in

691
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.000
there or like a like bleacher set
up, or what are we gonna do

692
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:58.159
to fit everyone in there? So
we've set it up fairly similar to loss

693
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:02.199
yea, I had a little bit
of a bum as the auctioneer hearing everyone's

694
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.519
bids because everyone is like so spread
out left and right, and my head's

695
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.800
going left right and trying to figure
out who bid was We need paddles.

696
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:17.599
Come on, man, let's go
remember the old remember the paddles, the

697
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:22.519
worst thing every but yes, I
actually have one at home. I'm gonna

698
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.119
bring it. Um So, what
we've done this year It basically we'd moved

699
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.599
Daniel from center, put him to
the left a little bit so people can

700
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:31.280
see the screen a bit more,
and then we kind of put everyone.

701
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.480
We kind of shifted everyone a little
bit to the right. I think we

702
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.159
have ten tables set up, um
so, two teams each table, and

703
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:44.639
then a couple of extra additional tables
just in case we get this forty seven

704
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:50.679
teams. Daniel's supposedly touting, Man, I like it. I mean,

705
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:52.880
what do you think of the studio
for the drafting venue? Having been in

706
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.639
there? I love it. I
mean, there's no place better to play

707
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.519
poker than the studio. There's no
place better to drafts. I mean,

708
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:05.519
what was it like? I think
it was twenty nineteen they we drafted and

709
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:07.679
one I think it was in the
Tuscany. It was like one of the

710
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.960
it was in the Yeah, it
was in the Tuscany. One of the

711
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.880
restaurants, they're like their beer garden
restaurant. I think we had, like

712
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:16.800
Daniel rented at a private room or
something. We're all like these long beer

713
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:21.480
hall tables trying to draft with a
screen, and then like you have to

714
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.400
deal with the bar noise outside.
So yeah, the studio definitely is a

715
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:29.000
big upgrade over that. Yeah,
I love drafting in there, and plus

716
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.519
like there is a there is a
bar directly outside the studio that's quiet,

717
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.280
so like it's kind of a win
win for everyone. Yeah, I love

718
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.960
it as well. Obviously I'm partial
to the studio. I mean I still

719
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:43.159
get get some goosebumps every time I
walk in there because I think it's such

720
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.199
an elite place for poker in general, both on the plane side and then

721
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:50.599
anything else that has to do with
kind of some answer lary events, which

722
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.800
I would put this under. So
I'm pretty pumped overall to be able to,

723
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.480
you know, have the opportunity,
as you started by saying when we

724
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.920
started our conversation, you know,
huge, huge thank you to the investors

725
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:04.440
of course, who you know,
we're not going to get in this thing

726
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.760
putting up a full twenty five thousand
dollars ourselves. We're just not going to

727
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:09.599
do that at this point in our
lives. That said, you know,

728
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.519
if everything goes according to plan in
my mind and we win, I mean

729
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:15.679
I might just blast it all next
year. Who the heck knows, might

730
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:22.239
just try and parlay it into multiple
year wins here. But I'm really looking

731
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.920
forward to it. The draft is
super fun. It's it's super engaging.

732
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.480
You know, you got people yelling, people doing wacky shit all the time,

733
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.519
you know, people making fun of
each other. So I think it's

734
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:36.960
gonna be ultimately a very very good
time. Again, would encourage everyone to

735
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.159
of course tune into the Poker Gol
live stream. So yeah, it's gonna

736
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.599
be fun. I can't wait.
And again, I mean, I'm pumped

737
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.280
to have Mat as a teammate.
I think it's just perfect. We're gonna

738
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.400
win. Yeah, it should be
a lot of fun. And I think

739
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:53.440
it's just great to have a daily
sweat throughout the entire WSOP because you're always

740
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:57.440
gonna have someone in a day too
of something. And you know, if

741
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.320
you draft someone in a and who
plays high roller events and then they're playing

742
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.079
the two fifty k, Wow,
there's only twenty twenty people here today,

743
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.880
like we might have a shot to
do something. So so yeah, there's

744
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.039
always some sweat equity, and plus
you get the side bets. I'm looking

745
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.719
forward to who we can side bet
with this year. I've definitely seen some

746
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.599
crazy side bets over the years in
terms of in terms of the teams that

747
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:21.599
go after each other actual wise,
and and yeah, it's just it's a

748
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.599
really fun way to kick off the
summer with a lot of a lot of

749
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:28.719
people in the stay room who are
competing at each other all year, but

750
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:31.159
you know, just for one night, they kind of like each other a

751
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.239
little bit because they because you could
be mortal enemies, but hey, if

752
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.480
you got someone on your team who
you need to need some points from it,

753
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.519
that turns the tide pretty quick.
So yeah, I'm really looking forward

754
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.440
to it. I'm really excited to
give the investors a fun sweat all summer.

755
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:50.280
And yet and yeah, Monday can't
be here soon enough. I'm gonna

756
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:52.880
drive into Vegas that day. First
stop will be the studio to kick off

757
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:57.239
the summer. Couldn't ask for anything
better. Let's go. I can't wait,

758
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.360
all right, sir, We'll appreciate
yet you coming on taking the time

759
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.719
to chat with us also, you
know, taking the time to let the

760
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.719
people know who who our team is, what we're gonna be doing, who

761
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.719
you are, and all that sort
of stuff. Believe it's Matt Clark Poker

762
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.440
on Twitter. Is that correct?
Yes, sir, that's right. You

763
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:21.079
guys can give him a follow over
on Twitter at Matt Clark Poker spelled just

764
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:24.480
like it sounds nice and easy,
and yeah, we'll be sweating all summer

765
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:27.519
long and in it all the way
to the end. This is one of

766
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.199
those things, of course, where
you know, you can kind of not

767
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:32.400
do a damn thing and then all
of a sudden hit just kind of a

768
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.719
two week hot streak and boom,
you're you're in the mix. So I'm

769
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.800
looking forward to it from start to
finish and appreciate you coming on, sir.

770
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.760
Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you
for having me. And let's what,

771
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:50.079
do we just sign a team name? No, we haven't yet.

772
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.360
I mean, we hadn't listed on
Poker Stake as Team Donny Pee because that's

773
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:57.320
what josh Are suggested, but we're
not gonna go with that name. Well,

774
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.920
we'll do something. I just don't
know exactly what we're gonna do,

775
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.280
but yeah, I want team media
back. Make a team media e media

776
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:09.639
back, I mean not out of
the realm of possibility. We'll see.

777
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:12.639
We got a few days to figure
it out and we'll sort it out.

778
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.760
Sounds good. Well, we'll make
sure that people know who to sweat.

779
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.880
And by the way, a quick
shout out to the twenty five K fantasy

780
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:24.800
website that does an incredible job accumulating
all the stats each year. I think

781
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:28.719
they do an awesome job. And
I don't even know who runs the site,

782
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.599
but definitely worth checking out to sweat
not only our team but all the

783
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:37.000
twenty five K fantasy teams throughout the
summer. Twenty five k Fantasy dot Com

784
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.719
is where to find all that and
give them a follow on Twitter at the

785
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.559
same the same name. Sweet,
I love it. You saved me from

786
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:51.119
doing the plug, so thank you. All right, sir, We'll have

787
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:52.960
a good weekend. I'm sure you
and I are going to be talking plenty

788
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:58.760
and uh safe drive in and I
will see you on Monday. Chairs.

789
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.920
Thank you. All right. That
was Matt Clark. I can't wait.

790
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.920
I'm pumped. I mean, the
more I talk with him, the more

791
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:08.440
I talk about it, I'm like
getting way too cocky and I need to

792
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:12.320
just slow my role seriously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you

793
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:16.599
do. You calm down. I
feel, of course I accept the one

794
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:22.599
year that we got screwed when Martin
Jacobson wanted events. So yeah, so

795
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.039
yeah, listen, I'm ready to
go. I've been doing a lot of

796
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:30.840
research, um all this week.
Every single night, I've spent probably two

797
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:35.360
hours researching, building out my spreadsheets, all that sort of stuff. So

798
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:37.400
I'm trying to put it in the
time. I'm trying to put in the

799
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.119
effort, and I feel like one
of these years it's all going to come

800
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:45.360
together. Last year, what's our
excuse? COVID COVID struck the team.

801
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:51.119
That's what happened, and our biggest
gun David ODB Baker shout out ODB Baker,

802
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.079
love you man, but had a
bad summer. You know, what

803
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.320
are you gonna do the ebbs and
flows of tournament poker. One year you're

804
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.679
you know, you can't miss,
You're winning everything, You're making all these

805
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:01.440
found tables. The next year it's
just a brick city. That's just how

806
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:06.400
it is. Speaking of od B, what are your thoughts on when I

807
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:09.079
always find it interesting when someone's name
comes up in the room and they're also

808
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:13.159
in the room like ODB. Yeah, I always find that interesting. I

809
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.480
mean, and there's a lot there's
a lot of those guys. I mean

810
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:21.039
you have obviously Daniel Sean deep drafted
drafted last year. Um, Chad eve

811
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:24.000
Sledge has been in the room.
Um sometimes Josh Ri is in there.

812
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:28.079
I don't know if he's always in
there, Um, David Baker, as

813
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:32.039
you mentioned, who else Benny Glazier
was Benny Glazier was there last year.

814
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:38.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So
it's always interesting, Um, you know

815
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:42.960
to see because then you, I
don't know, you get a sense of

816
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.880
like what's going to happen, Like
do they know that they're gonna play a

817
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:47.480
big schedule? So are they bidding
on themselves? You know that sort of

818
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:52.840
thing. And I always think that
it's if I was ever in that position,

819
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.599
like I come in you know,
I'm I'm Daniel the grounding for example,

820
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:59.239
and you know I'm I got a
team. But then I'm also I

821
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.679
know I'm playing a high buying schedule
of everything or you know, a high

822
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:06.360
high volume schedule of everything. Um, I'm probably not going to a bid

823
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:10.719
on myself because then I have basically
two irons in the fire. I have

824
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:15.360
my play and then I have my
fantasy team, and I can win both

825
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.880
weights, you know, because he
is maybe the exception because of how much

826
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.280
he plays. But like someone like
you know, odb Or Todd Bronson,

827
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:27.599
Craig Chay, Jake Schwassel, chat
Eva, that's a little different. Like

828
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.920
it's either a bed on yourself or
just you know, trying to hedge in

829
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:36.199
a way. Yeah, I mean
it's it's an interesting strategy. I'm not

830
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:37.719
in that position, so I can't
really really speak to myself. Going to

831
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.599
drop yourself for a dollar? Wouldn't
that be great? And I played like

832
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:44.880
one event and won it. I
want the Claddy something insane, like some

833
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:49.239
some low buy in massive field crap
show where I just one, like you

834
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.199
know, the max hundred point field
bonus and like that's how well you know,

835
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.639
the more realistic I one is you
play the main event and make the

836
00:50:55.639 --> 00:51:00.000
field bonus. Well, yeah,
that'd be that would be way more really

837
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:01.400
listening. Yeah, but I don't
know if I'm gonna play the main event

838
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:06.239
this year, so that I hope
to play, you know, but you

839
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.360
can't force me to play, and
then you don't play, but we'll see.

840
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:15.840
Well, you have a more flexible
work schedule. I won't say that

841
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.440
you have less work than I do, because yeah, you know, I'm

842
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.559
doing a lot of commentary, hopefully
twenty streams, so you know, I

843
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:28.760
gotta work around that working man first
above play. But the twenty five K

844
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:30.719
fantasy, that's kind of like my
baby. I love this thing. I

845
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:34.920
love having the opportunity to get in
there. Um again, to shout out

846
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:37.039
Matt Clark for for coming alongside of
me. I feel confident with him there.

847
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:42.239
I can't wait. I think our
strategies are aligned. Um, and

848
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:46.440
I'm pumped up. So I'm due. I'm I'm doing this stupid thing.

849
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:51.800
I'm so doing this dumb thing.
I love it. I think it's great.

850
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.599
UM. So yeah, if you
bought a piece on Poker Stakes,

851
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:59.199
as we just talked about with Matt, thank you so much. UM if

852
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.400
you're one of the people that might
have bought action off Poker Stake, because

853
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.480
I know you personally, thank you, thank you very much. We're gonna

854
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.079
do it this year. We're gonna
do our damnedest. We're putting in the

855
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.400
work once again. UM, I
can't wait. So yeah, that's all

856
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:15.719
we got for you on this episode, Nice little twenty five K fantasy episode,

857
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:20.440
Big Episode, Big one tomorrow.
Yes, uh, that's our Doubsop

858
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:24.599
mailbag episode. We're gonna be answering
all these Dubsop related questions that we got

859
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:29.199
in from you guys out there the
audience. UM, I think we have

860
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.079
around fifty questions. That's a lot
of questions. We're gonna answer every single

861
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:36.920
one. We're gonna get through it. It's gonna be fun and hopefully you

862
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.679
know, are able to put our
knowledge of being out here working at the

863
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:45.159
series to good use and let you
guys know, um some stuff about everything

864
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.119
you want to know. So I
can't wait. It's gonna be a lot

865
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:50.840
of fun. So um, that's
gonna do it for us. My name

866
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.880
is Donny Peters, his name is
Tim Duckworth, and we will talk to

867
00:52:52.880 --> 00:53:09.599
you guys next time. Nice Change
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