WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:21.519 Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man, 2 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:26.679 I'm forty. Go ahead, make my day every single week. I 3 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:29.199 put my freaking heart and soul into this. I don't go out there and 4 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:32.520 laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's funny to me. I don't wanna go 5 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:36.159 out there and get embarrassed on Monday night football. For everybody, I think 6 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:40.079 this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from 7 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:44.600 yesterday. Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the same 8 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:49.280 thing for you that I had yesterday. You know why I'm here. You 9 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:56.280 play to win the game. You don't play to just play it. That's 10 00:00:56.320 --> 00:01:00.600 a great thing about sports. You play to win. I don't care if 11 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.920 you don't have any wins. You go play to win. You start telling 12 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:14.079 me it doesn't matter to retire, get out for the matters. I wonder 13 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:23.040 how many people when they listen to that open recognize the voices Mike Gundy Yoklahoma 14 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:29.359 State University, Derek Anderson then of theear A Cardinals, and Marshawn Lynch. 15 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:34.439 Of course, in between the movie clips there welcome everybody out of Friday. 16 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:36.280 You made it, man, you made it to the end of the week. 17 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.560 Way to go, Happy for you, Happy for us too. Ben 18 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:42.359 is our producer on Matt Shepard. This is Exes and Bros. We're with 19 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:47.319 you from six until nine Monday through Friday throughout the great state of Michigan, 20 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:52.000 and the Meyer Hotline welcomes you as well. Eight six six eight three eight 21 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:56.560 forty eight forty three. The text line is sports Radio to twenty one thousand. 22 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:00.840 Colton Pouncy. We talked to yesterday he of the athletic covers the Lions. 23 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:06.200 Really good conversation in the eight o'clock hour. We will replay that at 24 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:09.719 the bottom of this hour in case you didn't have a chance to listen to 25 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:16.400 it at all. Tigers had the day off yesterday. They are in Arizona 26 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:19.919 for the first of a three game series in the first of a six game 27 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.560 road trip starting tonight. Trek Scoob gets the call. Then it'll be Jack 28 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:27.639 Flaherty, then Matt Manning. In the series, Detroit has dropped four straight 29 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:31.719 series. They have dropped seven of ten games. Overall. The Diamondbacks are 30 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:37.840 two games under five hundred, but they have won seven of their last ten 31 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:45.039 coming in. These are the games where you look for your ace, right, 32 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:51.919 What does it mean to be an ace? Aces are guys like Justin 33 00:02:52.000 --> 00:03:00.039 Ferlander, Jack Morris, Denny McClain, slash Mickey Lolich. Those are the 34 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:07.039 aces in Tiger's history, Hal Newhouser, let's not go back too far, 35 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:10.560 right, I don't want to spoil it too much, but those are the 36 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:17.240 aces. The aces are the guys who are supposed to stop streaks. Trek 37 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:25.680 Skugbel has become that for Tigers fans, and justifiably so. He's that good. 38 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:31.639 Not sure I trust anybody else on this starting staff to do what we 39 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:36.759 think is Trek Scubel will do tonight, or that we're asking him to do 40 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:46.000 tonight. He is a guy who I think most Tigers fans completely trust. 41 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:50.680 Stop me if I'm wrong there, but I think when hea'ts on the mound, 42 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:55.919 Tiger's fans look at it and say, we're winning tonight, or we've 43 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:01.080 got a really good chance at winning tonight. But here's the thing with most 44 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:04.919 of your starters, now that Kentomaieta is on the shelf, with most of 45 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:12.840 these starters, if not all, shouldn't you feel that way after the way 46 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:21.600 they have pitched so far? I would guess that's not where your trust is 47 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:30.959 necessarily misplaced. Your your trust is valid there. The trust in the offense 48 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:35.160 is where you might get misplaced. And we've gone over that time and time 49 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:44.199 again. What you have to wonder is, at what point in a baseball 50 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:51.240 season. I don't think it's yet, but we're getting precariously close. At 51 00:04:51.240 --> 00:05:01.399 what point during the season does the front office go it ain't working, time 52 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:10.360 to make a move and do it quickly. As you look at what teams 53 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:15.680 are doing now, neither you nor I expected the Tigers to do with the 54 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:21.399 Phillies have done. For example, Phillies have thirty one wins in the National 55 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:27.160 League, most of anybody. They lost yesterday to the Mets in eleven innings. 56 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:32.040 I'm not sure you expected them to be where the Yankees are. Yankees 57 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:39.040 have thirty wins after shutting out Minnesota again last night or yesterday five nothing Clark 58 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:44.199 Schmidt for crying out loud of all people, a career high eight shutout innings, 59 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:49.199 eight strikeouts, no walks. But they got some clutch hits. Volpie 60 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:55.519 with a home run, Taurus with an RBI doubled the left center field. 61 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.160 You can look at the box score. For the rest line is they got 62 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.920 their thirtieth win last night. They have proven so far that they are the 63 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:11.759 best team in the American League. Baltimore's right there with them. Cleveland win 64 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.120 wise, is right there with them. But I'm not buying into Cleveland just 65 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:19.759 yet, which is kind of unfortunate and it's really not fair, but that's 66 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:26.399 just how I feel right now. Cleveland has earned your respect because of what 67 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:30.839 they've done. You've got fifteen roadkills so far this year. That's impressive. 68 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:39.399 Only the Yankees have more in the American League and in Baseball because the Phillies 69 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:45.240 have fifteen roadkills and that is tied with Cleveland. I don't think you expected 70 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.040 the Tigers to do with the Dodgers are doing. But you know what, 71 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:56.959 I don't think it's far fetched to have believed what Milwaukee has done that Detroit 72 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:05.199 could not have done the same thing. Minnesota at twenty four nineteen wouldn't have 73 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:08.519 been out of reach, would it. I don't think. So. They're 74 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:15.759 below five hundred, you know that, and it's frustrating as hell. So 75 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:21.279 they get Arizona tonight. Aj Hinch has made a statement about a player that 76 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:30.199 has become toxic. In fact, I would argue I don't think I don't 77 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:35.959 think he can get it back with Tigers fans. So we'll talk about that 78 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:45.000 coming up. Meanwhile, last night in hockey, the Rangers beat Carolina five 79 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:48.439 to three. They came from three to one down in the third period to 80 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:53.720 eliminate the Hurricanes in six games. Has he got a chance to watch any 81 00:07:53.759 --> 00:08:01.879 of that? It's a really good game, Chris. He's the guy who 82 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:09.319 led them back. The assistant captain scored the natural hat trick in the period 83 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:15.000 to lead New York into the Eastern Conference Finals. Crid joins two other Ranger 84 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:18.639 greats as the only Rangers to score three goals in a period in a playoff 85 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:28.959 game? Who are they? Mark Messier the Guarantee Game nineteen ninety four against 86 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:39.480 New Jersey and Wayne Gretzky three years later. Speaking of Gretzky and Messier, 87 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:48.399 Edmonton, where they won? Did they win three cups or four? Four? 88 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.320 Loses the lead? In Vancouver they were up twice and they fell three 89 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:00.840 to two to the Caducks. So Vancouver now leads three games to two. 90 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.840 One game. In the NBA last night, Minnesota used a twenty to nothing 91 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:11.840 first half run and went on to blow out Denver one fifteen to seventy. 92 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:18.120 I know you're shaking your head, going, how in the hell did that 93 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:26.919 happen? Seriously, you're going, wait, this is the defending world champions. 94 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:37.000 Anthony Edwards scored twenty seven to lead the Wolves, most of that late. 95 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:46.360 The Nuggets shoot just thirty percent. It shows you that even the best 96 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:52.440 of the best, and until somebody knocks them off, they are the best. 97 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:58.279 It shows you that they can have all kinds of issues at least on 98 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:05.440 any given The bigger the night, usually the better the team's play. Who 99 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:16.159 are expected to be that challenging championship contender. Nikola Jokic had twenty two in 100 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:22.879 the lost nine rebounds. I went nine of nineteen from the floor. They 101 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:28.120 rested him to a certain extent. He did play thirty six minutes because Minnesota 102 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:35.759 had pulled away so comfortably, especially in the fourth where the Timberwolves outscored him 103 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:43.080 twenty nine to nine. So there's your headlines right there. Jared Goff spoke 104 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:48.080 to the media yesterday. We'll talk about that coming up, but we want 105 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:54.600 to get to what aj Hinch said about one specific player that I think has 106 00:10:54.679 --> 00:11:00.399 a lot of Tigers fans shaking their head. We'll talk about that when we 107 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:03.480 come back on Excess and Bros. After this across the Great State of Michigan. 108 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:07.000 We played for the three that rushing field. 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I think we 118 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.639 need to sink in like it's a great loss. They beat us, they 119 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:54.399 destroy us, and we should learn it. And you need to keep the 120 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:58.320 respect, you know, when they they came out and actually we had it 121 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:05.039 like nine two Exclora right, fun didn't look good for them in that period, 122 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:13.519 you know, but since then it was it was a one team show. 123 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:18.399 So I'm gonna I'm gonna take this as a great loss. Well and 124 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:28.879 Nicole that and that's Nikola Jokic. I'm gonna take it as a great loss. 125 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.320 Yeah, yeah, that's really the only way you can take it. 126 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.559 Welcome back Exces and Bros. Monday through Friday six until nine. Jokic was 127 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:41.399 pretty darn good, but it was much too little, too late. One 128 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:45.440 fifteen seventy, Minnesota blows up Denver. I think that's the hard part for 129 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:50.279 fans. I know sometimes it is for me to recognize the other teams, 130 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:58.480 I don't want to say greatness, to recognize what they can do, what 131 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:05.159 they are capable love, and that they could actually do it against your team 132 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.799 is pretty hard because we all like to think realistically, Now, if you're 133 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:16.519 a really good team, we like to think that our team is the best. 134 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.600 Our team is the one that should be doing what the other team is 135 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:24.720 doing to it, especially if they wont a champion. What's that phrase, 136 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:33.960 never underestimate the heart of a champion. Well, Denver was down to nothing 137 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:39.879 in the series Minnesota, or I should say, yeah, Denver is down 138 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:45.480 to nothing in the series and the Nuggets respond with three consecutive wins, and 139 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:48.759 then what do you do. You're like, this Minnesota team, look, 140 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:54.320 you got to give them some love. They won fifty six games. Give 141 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:58.840 them some love. You know, damn well, they're not going quietly either 142 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.039 way, whether it be Denver winning the series or Minnesota winning the series. 143 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:11.039 A good team's coming out right, sure. Still to be embarrassed by forty 144 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:16.639 five is ridiculous. I mean, Minnesota Leby has meant is fifty in that 145 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:22.279 one. Anyway. I know you don't want to talk Denver Nuggets in Minnesota 146 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.200 Timberwolves. I don't blame you. That's not something we're going to talk about. 147 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:33.759 Just a quick aside there, aj Hinch. With the Tigers dropping below 148 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:41.080 five hundo for the first time this year, there are questions from Tigers fans, 149 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:50.039 and good questions, understandable, realistic, fair questions. How do you 150 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:56.200 fix the offense? Number one? That's your big picture, right. It 151 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:03.960 shouldn't be on one specific player because nobody knows is carrying this offense. There's 152 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:11.879 not one player who you're looking at and suggesting he's fine, not one, 153 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:18.279 And I don't even know if you can do that with any team in Major 154 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.240 League Baseball. But there are certain guys you don't worry about. Is that 155 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:26.480 fair? I don't think there's any but Sho hal Tani went over to last 156 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:33.039 night. I don't think anybody in Dodgerland is worried about Shoeo Tani. I'm 157 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:37.679 not sure people in Philadelphia are sitting here going. I'm not sure what Trey 158 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:43.120 Turner has given us this year. Not a big fan Dodgers and Mookie Betts, 159 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.960 same thing. Stephen Kwan, even though he's hurt in Cleveland. Trust 160 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.039 him at the top of the line You damn right, you trust him at 161 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.919 the top of the lineup. Jeremy Paniam, Arcelo Zunim. Maybe it's because 162 00:15:54.960 --> 00:16:00.960 there is a bit of a track record there, but you use your eyes, 163 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:08.360 you recognize Edlie Rushman's is a really good player. He's fine. Baltimorioals 164 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:11.919 fans are going, He's fine. Jose l two Bay has done it for 165 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:14.799 a long long time in his career. He's doing it again this year. 166 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:23.720 He's fine. It's interesting and it's easy to look back on this. It's 167 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:30.159 really simple for me to play armchair quarterback and you do the same. But 168 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:37.480 it's interesting that the Tigers needs have been shortstop in third base the left side 169 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:38.679 of the infield, right. I mean, they're still looking for those guys. 170 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:42.240 They don't have an everyday third base and otherwise they wouldn't sign Jill or 171 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:48.440 Shecheliff. For crying out loud, They've overpaid for their shortstop who has given 172 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.159 them nothing. Can we come to an agreement on that? Good? Okay? 173 00:16:52.799 --> 00:17:03.879 East Soak Parades, who was traded to Tampa for Austin Meadows, which 174 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:08.920 is one of the worst trades, not just in Tiger's history, but in 175 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:17.119 Detroit sports history. Essak Parades is hitting over three hundred in Tampa and is 176 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:22.960 an everyday player there. He's got eight home runs, so there's pop there. 177 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:29.480 He gets on base, he hits for average. He's not going to 178 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:33.000 win a Gold Glove, but he's not going to kick the ball around either. 179 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:45.079 Willie Adamas was in this team system. It's a while back now, 180 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:48.279 traded for David Price. I get it. I'm not saying it's the wrong 181 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:56.680 move, but you did have a guy and people weren't recognizing it when the 182 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:03.960 trade for Austin Meadows to Place a few years back. I can tell you 183 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:10.640 I was thrilled. Honestly, I can admit that I'm wrong. I was 184 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:17.240 thrilled. You got a guy who hits over three hundred, a guy who 185 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.400 drives in over one hundred runs, and a guy who has the power to 186 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.839 give you thirty bombs. He was an All Star again, not a gold 187 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:33.359 Glove, but he's not jose Canseco on the fl the other So that's pretty 188 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:41.519 fired up. But I don't have all the inside information. See, when 189 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.519 you talk to teams, and I've said this for my entire career, there 190 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.839 are certain things we don't deserve to know. I'm not going to pry into 191 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:59.759 certain situations with team management. So I get it they feel like I should 192 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:03.680 be at arm's length, and other reporters and members of the media too. 193 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:10.400 Okay, if I give you that respect, then you have to be willing 194 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:19.279 to accept the arrow slung your way and the perception slash reality slash opinion of 195 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:30.359 those members of the media saying you did not do your homework. Someone failed 196 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:38.200 miserably because you gave up a guy who you knew could hit how well we 197 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.279 weren't sure it's not like he was tearing the cover out the ball with Detroit, 198 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.160 but he wasn't. It's a very small sample, says, don't tell 199 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.319 me that you really can't judge a player until he gets fifteen hundred at bats. 200 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:59.519 That's what we hear all the time with offensive players. What's the number 201 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:03.799 of at bats somebody needs, I would say somewhere in the neighborhood at fifteen 202 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:11.440 hundred in their career before you judge them. Okay, well, then after 203 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:15.480 one hundred and seventy two at bats with Detroit, which is what esak Paratus 204 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:21.880 got, don't tell me that he can't hit. Don't tell me you've come 205 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:26.720 to the conclusion because he goes to Tampa and what does he do. Though 206 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:29.680 he may have struggled his first year, not with power, he had twenty 207 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:38.000 bombs. He had thirty one homers last year, hit two fifty respectable, 208 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:47.279 and drove in ninety eight. These are better numbers than Spencer Torkleson. And 209 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:51.480 this year he's off to a great start. We'll talk more about that at 210 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:55.319 the top of the hour. When we come back, we'll replay our interview 211 00:20:55.319 --> 00:21:00.440 with Colton Poncey. Colton Poncy the athletic covers the Lions, talk about the 212 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:06.039 schedule, talk about Jared Goff. We'll talk about more with Colton Palcy from 213 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:10.240 yesterday. 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