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Rock and Roll History Showy everybody, welcome

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Show and Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian

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Horrowitz. We have I think an
interesting show lined up for everybody tonight.

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But of course before we hop in, allow me to introduce all the crambones

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out of joining us here tonight.
First and foremost, from the Richter Observatory.

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He once got fired from a calendar
factory for taking a day off meal

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r years back behind. He was
a leap year. It was a leap

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year, that's my out. It
was supposed to be that way, right,

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but they just wouldn't listen. How
you doing, everybody? From paranormally

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yours. She learned that in Star
Wars they called Darth Vader Lord Vader,

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because when they called him Master Vader, all the Stormtroopers started giggling. Gail

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Lucam is back, High Gale,
Hello, from the silver screen. She

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saw a sandwich walk into a bar
and the bartender said, sorry, we

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don't serve food here. Mercedes kept
his basket. I'm Mercedes away, joining

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us from his ground floor balcony.
He recently lost his pizza cutter, so

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he used a Brian Adam CD.
It cut like a knife. John Kelly

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is here, John, Oh,
wow, that looks good. Brian,

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how are you? Everybody? And
from her secret bunker, she recently bought

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a copy of the World's Worst Thesaurus. It's terrible and it's also terrible.

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Thank you wife. When this here, that's awesome. Prian, Hey,

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everybody, and of course, our
newest official Crambone. She figured out that

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every novel is a mystery novel if
you never finished reading it. Jessica Dean

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is back. I guess hey,
everybody. So we have been on a

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streak of just following holidays across the
calendar, so we thought we'd stick with

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it, and we're doing all things
Irish for Saint Patrick's Day, except you

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two. That was my only rule, know you two tonight, So you're

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welcome out there, and I am. Yeah. Bring it on. We're

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getting into opinion world. So I'm
gonna just already we are. I am

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the least qualified to explain what Saint
Patrick's Day is all about. So I'm

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gonna just turn it over to Gail
to give us a little synopsis of what

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the holiday is all about. Gail, Well, most people in the US

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and lots of other parts of the
world know that Sat. Patrick's Day is

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a cultural and religious celebration, and
it's always on the seventeenth of March,

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which was the traditionally known death date
of Saint Patrick, who lived around three

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eighty five a D. To four
sixty one a D. So that was

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a really long time ago. He
was the foremost patron saint of Ireland.

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He was a bishop and a missionary. He was born in Roman Britain,

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which says like specifically not Ireland,
so he wasn't born in Ireland. He

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was born into a wealthy family.
His father was a Christian deacon and his

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grandfather was a Christian priest. Now
he wasn't He didn't go through the normal

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canonization process in the Roman Catholic Church. There are certain steps that are followed,

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and the only reason is because back
then, in the first millennium,

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there was no formal canonization process.
So after he became a priest and a

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bishop and helped to spread Christianity throughout
Ireland, he was probably proclaimed a saint

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by popular acclaim. So you can't
do that anymore. Sorry, So you

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can't sign up and get on that
list anymore. No, No, you

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have to die, and there have
to be a certain amount of miracles attributed

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to you. And there are two
things I haven't done, so and everyone

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when they exsume you, you have
to be not decayed. And there's a

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whole bunch of stuff. And there's
there's steps to it, like first as

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beatification, and you know, it
takes certain steps to go through before the

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Roman Catholic Church will proclaim you a
saint. Now. Saint Patrick's Day was

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made an official Christian feast day in
the early seventeenth century and it's observed by

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all the liturgical churches, the Roman
Catholic Church, the Anglican Communion, especially

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the Church of Ireland, the Eastern
Orthodox Church and the Lutheran Church, and

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since March seventeenth always occurs during the
penitential season of Lent. Usually the Lenten

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restrictions on eating and drinking alcohol are
lifted for that day in order to celebrate

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Saint Patrick. But unfortunately that's kind
of encouraged and propagated the tradition of a

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severe amount of alcohol consumption. Some
people think nowadays that the celebrations have become

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too commercialized and they foster negative stereotypes
of the Irish people. So celebrate safely,

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everybody. That's a good reasonable advice. Yeah, yeah, cool,

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All right, well, thank you, Gail. My wife happens to be

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Irish, and anytime Ireland comes up, I always make comments about potatoes,

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so and then she gets mad at
me. But to me, it seemed

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like a great place to start,
because well, Ireland and potatoes are linked

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in history. Well so is Idaho. And years ago I knew a couple

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that was going to um get married
and they eloped to Idaho, and I

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asked the wife if she had a
bridal bouquet of potatoes. How did that

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go? No? No, she
she just said no. She knew what

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I'm like, so it didn't offend
alas right about going to McDonald's for French

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fries. That might work. I
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Oh I was like, hey,
I'm down, when are we going McDonald's

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French fries? I would have McDonald's. I would have made a faux bouquet

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of fake potatoes, of course,
you would have, yeah, as one

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does actually with you. You would
have used real potatoes and then you would

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have planted them later to make more
potatoes. I was thinking, actually a

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potato sat down, but that's too
itchy. We need a potato slip under

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it. Doesn't that solve the problem? All right? So I know that

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we've gone totally off. Oh yeah, already we're just talking potatoes right now.

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Hungry for fries over here? Yeah? Sorry, alright, Neal's taken

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us all after McDonald's for frost.
A happy meal for that? I want

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a happy meal. Well. The
potato was first grown as a crop around

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eight thousand BC in what is now
Peru. It made its way to North

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America, and it's believed to have
been brought to Ireland from North America by

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Sir Walter Raleigh in fifteen eighty six. But that would have been a sweet

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potato, not a regular white potato
that we think of that was first planted

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in Ireland in fifteen ninety by a
shipwrecked Spanish sailor. And I haven't seen

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the movie, but I believe the
first poop potato was planted on Mars by

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Matt Damon Mercedes. Is that right? Oh? Yeah, okay. The

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potato became popular, especially in rural
Ireland, because families needed a large amount

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of food for large families, and
potatoes are relatively easy to grow, even

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in Ireland's rocky soil, so by
the mid nineteenth century, about a third

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of Ireland's population was depending on the
potato for survival. Then in eighteen forty

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four, a potato blight, which
is a fungus was identified that just turned

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potatoes into this inedible mush. The
following year they lost half the potato crop,

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and then the year after that,
in eighteen forty six, the crop

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was in total failure and because of
the potato famine, between eighteen forty six

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and eighteen fifty, about a million
people in Ireland died of starvation and another

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million moved emigrated to North America,
to England, to Scotland, and they

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were often not welcome wherever they decided
to go because they were blamed for taking

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jobs and undercutting wages. If that
sounds familiar maybe modern day. Even after

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the famine, Irish families continued to
emigrate, mostly to North America. I

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assume they just shrunk rap bano and
put them on a boat and sent them

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over here. And it took him
a while for him to make it back

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over there. And none of that
is funny. Of course, since none

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of that is funny, We're going
to jump to about one hundred years later

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to Brooklyn, New York, in
the nineteen forties, when a toy inventor

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named George Larner came up with the
idea of sticking face and body parts into

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fruits and vegetables to make little people. You could probably tell where I'm going

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with this. Yes, of course, he may have gotten the idea from

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his nephew, who would dig up
vegetables from their family garden and make little

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figures for his sister to play with. In nineteen forty nine, he came

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up with plastic pieces with pushpins on
the back that kids could use with fruits

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or vegetables supplied by their parents.
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bit controversial because World War Two had
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five, and people were still in
that ration mindset where we don't waste anything,

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and people didn't like the idea of
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That's why I wasn't allowed to have
one of those, is because my parents

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considered it should be wasting food.
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to sell the toy concept to a
serial company to be given away as a

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prize in the box, you know, the little face pieces and all that.

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He then found a better deal with
a toy manufacturer, Hassenfeld Brothers.

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They bought the rights back from that
serial company and officially named the toy Mister

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potato Head. It launched in nineteen
fifty two, and then Hassenfeld Brothers later

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shortened their name too has broke yep. On April thirtieth, nineteen fifty two,

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Mister potato Head became the first toy
advertised on television. Wow, what

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a distinctive honor. Exactly the whole
advertising campaign across all media actually was the

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first to be aimed directly at kids. Until then, even the toy commercials

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were aimed at the parents trying to
get the parents to go buy toys for

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the kids. This way they flipped
it around. They aimed at at the

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kids, so the kids would go
harass their parents to go buy them something.

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That's what we see today. Right
In nineteen fifty three, Missus potato

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head introduced and then it just expanded
from there to other fruits and vegetables.

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In the early nineteen sixties, government
regulations forced them to change the plastic parts

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because somebody realized that maybe sharp pins
and tiny plastic choking hazards weren't the best

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idea for little kids. You know, I was going to mention, I

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was gonna mention that I probably still
have scars on my fingers from where those

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you know, from pushing it into
the into the potato it missed and went

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into my hand. Yeah, they
were sharp, like right, It seems

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like a bad idea, doesn't it. Yeah, No, I'm not kidding.

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Well, if it goes into a
potato, probably go into a human

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too, Oh it did? Oh
yes, So, And I do have

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to point out that it was the
government regulations that changed, not hasbro Realizing

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that these things were dangerous. They
were forced to change them. Right,

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So in nineteen sixty four, the
company added the plastic potato body that some

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of us have grown up with and
parts that were not as sharp. In

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nineteen seventy five, the potato body
was doubled in size and a corresponding increase

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in size of the body parts like
the eyes and the mouth and all that,

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and that helped open the market up
to younger kids who could could handle

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the bigger pieces, you know,
because they don't have the dexterity yet,

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so they actually increased the sales by
doing that. Mister potato Head was a

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feature character in the Toy Story movies, voiced by the legendary Don Rickles.

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There are dozens of variations of mister
potato Head, including one I haven't seen,

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but it's the Star Wars are two
Potato Oh wow, I think I've

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I've seen a Star Wars mister potato
Head, and that sounds awesome. I've

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seen that in my former toy life. That just sounds like it would be

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awesome. Yes. In twenty twenty
one, people with nothing better to do

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got upset about the new gender neutral
version that Hasbro put out. Oh gosh,

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they didn't discontinue mister and missus they
just added a third one, and

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I guess people need to get upset
about something. I couldn't find the original

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commercial. I really wanted to play
that. I wanted to hear it.

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But I think it's because in the
nineteen fifties TV was still done live and

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very rarely recorded. So I have
a feeling that those commercials were actually done

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live during the shows where advertising.
But I go right ahead, maybe later,

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all right. I did find one
that was filmed in the nineteen fifties

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for a set called the Mister and
Missus potato Head Car and Trailer set from

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the nineteen fifties. So mister and
Missus potato had had an RV that hooked

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up to a car, so I
thought I would play the audio from that.

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So let's check it out. Hey, what bro, mister and missus

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Tadahead with their own cars and tailors. That's what you mean. Mister potato

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Head has a car and boat trailer, and there's a car and shopping trailer

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for his NiFe, missus potato Heads. It's such fun to do and so

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easy like this, take any food
or vegetables, just sticking eyes and ears

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and then come out. You can
make the funniest looking people in the whole

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world Ahead, people look different every
time you make them. Mister and missus

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Potatohead with cars and trailers come in
one and two dollars sizes. What else

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is new? Has broke a vanity
taste with toy cosmetics and beautiful accessories and

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be looking doctor a nurse kit.
There's a great story. It's fun to

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play with Hasbroke. And if you
caught that the doctor a nurse kit,

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I guess which one is going to
be rich? Right? Wow? I

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seem to remember that too. Here
comes mister potato Head and all his wonderful

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friends. That was the song,
Oh cool, cool, mister potato head.

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Here comes mister potato Head. Here
comes mister potato Head and all his

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wonderful friends. Come from the pepper
yet the pepper? Yeah, pet the

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pepper. What was the cucumbers?
Kooky the cucumber? There was other ones

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I can't remember, but that's great. And if you actually see, you

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know the commercials are on YouTube.
And if you see, you know the

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examples they make with the potatoes.
They're some of the scariest, ugliest looking

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things. Because I think, like
my age group we grew up with the

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perfect plastic potato body. So it
looked right. But if you just take

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a mushed potato and start jamming things
in it, just yeah, it looked

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like it was at a car accident. It didn't last long. Yeah,

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you had mashed potatoes for dinner after
you played with that though. Yeah,

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whether you wanted to or not.
He was like your toy and your dinner

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at the same time. Out Yeah, yeah, you know what's your hands

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old bandage too? You know,
my my little niece and neph you have

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mister potato head. And the coolest
thing about mister potato head now, and

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I don't remember this from back in
the seventies, but mister potato head on

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the back has this little door and
you can put all the little parts in

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their. Yeah, so I remember
the so cool. Yeah, you can

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open his butt up, yeah,
and little door and then you put all

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the little parts in there. From
nice and tidy, I didn't hear any

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outrage over that. But you take
away a mustache and people lose their minds.

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But you can you can jam whatever
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he showed that in toy story,
you know. Yeah, because missus potato

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Head says to mister potato Head,
and I think it was Toy Story two

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when they're going out on their rescue
adventure, she says, and I packed

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your angry on. I love it
so for the for the last Toy story

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was it four? And Don Rickles
had already passed away, so they were

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able to piece together phrases that he
had recorded already enough where he could be

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in the movie, which I thought
was great. Great. So yeah,

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all right, So Ireland Potatoes a
good place to start. Also a good

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place to take a break, and
we're gonna be back with everybody's choice for

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some Irish rock and roll, So
stick around. We'll be right back,

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to our Saint Patrick's Day edition of
the Rock and Roll History Show. We're

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gonna jump right in with Neil leading
us off tonight. Oh thank you.

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We're going to go from one Stereotype
Potatoes to another Irish stereotype, whiskey.

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I thought I'd get your attention there, and whiskey was never my beverage of

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choice. I was more of a
Guinness stout or a harp blogger type of

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guy. But you know, I
would never say no to whiskey. But

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anyway, I thought that everyone will
probably be picking bands that came from Ireland,

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YouTube notwithstanding, but I went a
different route. I picked an English

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band, which is probably you know, heresy or something like that. But

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I did pick an English band which
has nothing to do with anything about Saint

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Patrick's day. The song is about
whiskey in the name of the song is

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Whiskey Man, and it's by the
Who. Now I really don't think the

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Who need any introduction, but for
those of you whom might not know who

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they are, I'll give you a
brief overview. Who are they? They

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were and are an English rock band, not Irish, and they formed in

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London, not Dublin, in nineteen
sixty four, with the core and classic

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lineup of singer, main songwriter and
guitarist Pete Townsend, lead vocalist Roger Daltry,

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bassist John Entwhistle and drummer Keith Moon, and they went on to become

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one of the most influential rock bands
of the twentieth century. In a career

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that was highlighted by controversy and tragedy. They sold over one hundred million records

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worldwide. Their contributions to rock music
include Townsend's feedback and power chord guitar technique,

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as well as Entwhistle and Moon's unique
playing styles, the development of large

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amplification and PA systems, and the
invention of the rock opera, to name

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just a few. They were also
initially known for destroying their equipment on stage,

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as well as their legendary performances at
the Monterey Pop Festival, Festival,

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Woodstock, the Isle of White Festival, and at Carnegie Hall where they did

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their rock opera Timey. Their site
is as an influence by many hard rock,

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punk and power pop bands who went
on after them, and they were

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the who were inducted into the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame in nineteen ninety.

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Okay, as I mentioned, Pete
Townsend was the primary songwriter, and

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if you think of the who you
think of Pete Townsend, you'd be correct.

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But in nineteen sixty six, for
their second studio album, the band's

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manager, Kit Lambert had arranged some
sort of songwriting deal that required each member

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of the group to write a song
or two as well. The LP came

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out. It was called A Quick
One in the UK and Happy Jack here

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in the US, and it contains
tonight's featured selection Whiskey Man, a song

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written by bassist John Entwhistle. The
LP also included an Whistle's best known song,

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perhaps Boris the Spider, and it
secured Entwhistle's role as the second songwriter

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in the band. Interesting side note
that LP also included the Townsend Pen musical

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suite Cold A Quick One while He's
Away, which would serve as the precursor

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to and the blueprint for his later
rock operas Tommy and Quadrafenia. That who

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would go on to become famous for. Now, let's talk about John Entwistle

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for a minute. John Entwhistle was
also known as the Ox, Thunderfingers and

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the Quiet One, and he was
the only member of the band who had

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any kind of formal musical training.
He would go on to write songs for

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the band for the rest of his
career, and he went on to record

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a number of solo albums as well. Ed Whistle said that Whiskey Man was

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the first song he ever wrote,
and it's the story of a drunkard,

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believe it or not, whose best
friend is a man that he only sees

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while he's inebriated, and he doesn't
quite understand why no one else can see

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him. So eventually, so it's
like Kazoo on the Flintstone, sort of

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like that. Yeah, So eventually
those fine young men in their nice white

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coats show up and take him off
to the nuthouse and put him in a

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nice padded cell, where, much
to his chagrin, the whiskey Man was

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not invited and allowed to join him. So anyway, let's raise a glass

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to the whiskey Man by the Who, sung by John Entwhistle on bass guitar,

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and check out the rock and roll
French horn. Whiskey Man's my friends

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will be there all time. He
always joins me when I drink? Can

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we get on? Despite nobody has
ever seen him by the only one see

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me, I must be man and
silent is. If that's the way it

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is, doom doctors say he's just
a figment of my twisted by If they

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can't see my whiskey Man they must
be going blind to then dressed in white

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collected me two days ago, isn't
there's all for one and whiskey Man gon

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go. Whiskey Man will rest away. He's left his own. I can't

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even read him because he isn't hasn't
got to. Life is very gloomy in

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this little idaself. It's a shame
there wasn't drum for whiskey Man as well.

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The scheme man's my fun He's Whisney
million. He always johns me when

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I drink and we get on just
fine. We get on just fine.

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Talk about the dts. Huh,
I've never heard that before. I like

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that. That's so cool that french
horn. That was whistle playing the french

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horn too. Wow? Cool rocked
on french horn. Yeah, I thought

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that was awesome. Yeah, I
thought I thought, Becky, would you

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would appreciate that. No clams either. I don't know if you're familiar with

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the term clam neil, but clams
when a french horn player misses a note.

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Clam. Yeah, there there's a
you can look it up on YouTube.

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There's a the audio of the probably
one of the greatest drummers in the

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world, Buddy Rich that they recorded
him be rating his band in uh,

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I guess in the bus after a
show. He was, you know,

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kind of angry and he was he
was referring to clams as all the bad

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notes that his band was playing.
And I'm not I'm just gonna leave it

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there. You gotta listen to it. But yeah, yeah, anyway,

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um clam bake. That's when there
are a lot of really bad notes.

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That's a clammy. Oh boy,
Oh yeah that anyway. Unfortunately, John

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Entwhistle died on June twenty seventh,
two thousand and two, the day before

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the Who's two thousand and two US
tour was set to begin. It was

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after spending a night with a local
stripper and groupie and an undetermined amount of

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cocaine. He was only fifty seven
years old. The medical examiner determined that

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the cause of death was due to
a heart attack. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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he he did suffer from severe heart
disease because probably because he smoked a

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pack of cigarettes, at least a
pack of cigarettes a day for you know,

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many years. But that's the way
it goes. The WHO, which

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is now basically Townsend Adultery, continued
to perform as the Who to this day.

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Anyway, I thought that would be
an interesting song that, you know,

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like I said, some people may
not have heard and showcase the talents

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of Entwhistle, who was always kind
of in the background. He didn't get

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the He wasn't smashing his guitar or
his drum set or failing his microphone around

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you could. There are a number
of his bass solos on YouTube if you

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want to see him playing, and
they just they blow your mind. How

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good he was. Yeah, no, he was. He was phenomenals.

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Down on the top of any any
you know list of you know, the

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world's greatest bass players type thing.
He's always he's always near the top of

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all of them, and well deserved. Yeah, and the whole smashing equipment.

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You probably know the details better than
I do, Neil, But that

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all started as a as an accident, totally an accident. Yeah, it

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was. They were playing at some
you know, you know, they played

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in these small little clubs at that
time. I guess either the stage was

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rather high or the ceiling was rather
low, or a combination of the two,

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and at one point, towards the
end of the the set they were

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doing, you know, Townsend did
one of his you know, his jumps

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or whatever, you know, holding
his guitar up, and it hit the

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ceiling and broke the headstock off,
I guess, or somehow it so of

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course he got a little bit angry
about that and just proceeded to destroy the

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instrument, you know, all together, and the crowd went crazy. So

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and there you go. So I
guess the next night they played, they

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didn't do it, and people were
getting mad. So he decided, okay,

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let's do it again, and for
good measure, Keith Moon decided to

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kick over his drum set in a
show of solidarity. The crowd went nuts,

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and that's what that did it,
And I guess they did get I

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saw towns in smashing guitar one time. It was so it was he had

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a whole rack of them behind him, and they all had numbers on them

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too. They were all Less Pauls, and so yeah, he you you

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smashed one of those up. Moon
kicked over his drum set. I figured,

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well that's it. Nope, the
roadies came up, put the drum

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set back up. He goes over, grabs another guitar, walks up to

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the mic and goes, they're all
the same to me, and they did

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the encore. All right, when
you have that kind of money, you

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can break your own equipment. I
was going to say, that sounds like

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a very expensive hobby. Yeah,
that's not something newbies do. Yeah.

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Well, when they were starting out, it was he'd kind of go into

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the music store and grab it and
start running towards this I'll pay you later,

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and then with you know, nice
yeah, nice. Yeah. You

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don't see too many french horn players
get up and smash their instruments, no

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way, only if if they're if
they're blowing clams. They did, well,

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they did. They did it on
Mash, that one episode of Mash

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where they squashed the Winchester's French horn
because he was only blowing claims. Yeah,

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yeah, worth watching. Well they
went on to smash up hotel rooms

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too, right yeah, well like
yeah, well then, like I said,

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their antics off stage, and particularly
Keith Moon, you know, throwing

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m ads and toilets in hotels and
throwing them in elevators and out of windows,

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and you know that it sounds like, oh that's all funny, but

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you know you can get seriously hurt
that way. You know. Yeah,

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it sounded cool back then, but
it really I don't think it was.

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But it was nice for the hotel. It wasn't. They found it harder

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and harder to find hotel rooms after
a while. Oh, I bet driving

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driving cars into swimming pools at the
martel, which great experience. But you

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know, probably we are makes good
stories. But yeah, I guess if

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you were there would be a different
story, definitely, especially if at your

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pool. Yeah, if your car
or your car. Yeah, that's true.

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I assume it was his own car, but I guess you never know

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who. Yeah, awesome, good
lead off like that one. I've never

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met the whiskey man. It sounds
like I have work to do. Yeah,

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well, you know, just just
remember, get a designated driver,

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that's all I'm saying. I'll be
home. I'm good. Oh, I

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got a designated recliner all ready to
go. That's perfect. I'll let you

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know how it goes. Probably not
well, Mercedes, you're up. I

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have a short potato story, if
I may please. We we had a

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house in Southampton that we built,
and this was kind of a long time

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ago, but we had bought the
land and had the house built, and

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it was on some property that used
to be some farms or a farm.

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And um, a lot of people
hadn't started building yet, so there was

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a lot of open open land still. And one day and I'm looking out

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the window and there are these two
women with aprons picking things off the ground

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and putting them into their pockets and
their aprons and stuff. I couldn't figure

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out what they were doing. So
we watched and watched and watched, and

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treenough was potatoes. And I went
out and talked to them, and they

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said, oh, yeah, yeah, this used to be a potato field.

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So they were going out as long
as people weren't building houses there yet,

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they were going out and digging up
the potatoes. Cool. They are

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easy to grow. One of our
other shows is Getting Dirty the Allusan and

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avan Our farmers, and they give
great advice. And they got me growing

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this little mini farm right behind me, and they got me drying potatoes.

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And they are actually very easy to
grow. So I have one more quick

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potato story. I'm just full of
potatoes today. My husband was half Italian

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and half Irish, but he really
embraced his Irish side more than his Italian

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side, and he was very proud
of that, and a lot of his

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friends were very Irish and he the
Saint Patrick's Day Parade in New York was

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a very big deal for all of
them. And they would start off real

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early in the morning. I get
up Wiley early and get dressed and go

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out. And you know, it's
usually pretty cold on Saint Patrick's Day,

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so they would they would bake potatoes
in the oven and then put them in

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their pockets and then go out and
party, and when they get hungry,

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they would eat the potatoes because they'd
be cool enough by then. And take

406
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:40.079
sense, that's great, very practical. And think you'd use them for handwarmers.

407
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:45.079
I guess they were and throughout history
for a long time as handwarmers.

408
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.079
No, that's exactly why they had
them in their pockets. It was to

409
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:51.519
keep their handwarm. Yeah. Sure. Now, if you're if you're really

410
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.000
a nerd, which I am,
I watch a star talk Neil deGrasse Tyson's

411
00:35:55.039 --> 00:36:00.079
YouTube channel and he actually talked about, you know, cooking, and of

412
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.239
the things he talked about was potatoes. And you know, baking a potato

413
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:07.000
takes forever, and it holds heat
that long because for as long as it

414
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.840
takes to absorb heat, that's how
long it's going to radiate the heat back

415
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:12.519
out, which is why you know, you toast a piece of bread and

416
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.880
it takes two seconds and then it
dissipates the heat two seconds. So yeah,

417
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:20.320
potatoes were used for a very for
a long time his hand work.

418
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.519
I never knew that. Yeah,
yep, it's it's another rabbit hole.

419
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:29.559
So use your time wisely. Just
got put mashed potatoes in your pockets.

420
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:35.119
Yeah, yeah, don't mash them
with your hands while they were in your

421
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:37.639
pockets. Do you guys remember the
comedian Mitch Hedberg. He passed away number

422
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.559
of years ago, but he was
great with the one line is. One

423
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:44.559
of his things was that he always
since baked potatoes take forever. He always

424
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.559
has one in the oven because you
just never know. I love it.

425
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:54.519
Yeah. So if you have like
a stubborn icy patch in your driveway in

426
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:59.559
the winter, can you just throw
a baked potato on it and then melt

427
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:07.800
all the tater tots? Yeah that's
better instead of salt. Yeah exactly,

428
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.719
And then in the spring you got
a nice snack when you get home from

429
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:15.960
work. Many many years ago,
many years ago, was in a living

430
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:21.039
situation where you know, it was
kind of a shared kitchen and I had

431
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:25.000
a microwave, and one of the
other people who were there said, you

432
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.360
know, if you know you're not
using it, could I use it?

433
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.000
So I said, sure, you
know, go right ahead. So I

434
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:35.679
wasn't there at the time, but
apparently he decided to bake a potato.

435
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.760
Oh he didn't stab it first,
Well, you put it in the microwave

436
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:46.840
and said it you know, probably
at high for three hours. Oh my

437
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:52.800
god, Oh my gosh. Did
the house blow up? Apparently I wasn't

438
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.519
there when this went on, but
I came, you know, in the

439
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.880
aftermath, and apparently, yeah,
this thing was like a molten meteorite,

440
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.639
you know that. Wow, I'd
better pull the door off the microwave.

441
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:09.599
Probably you get burned that way.
You open the door and the thing explodes

442
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:14.880
in your face. Yeah. I
was like, who would do that?

443
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:21.599
But you can bake potato in the
microwave, but do do it for like

444
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.719
five minutes? Yeah, And this
was like, you know, a long

445
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:31.239
time and yeah, wrong, Yeah, that's insane. That's insane. All

446
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:37.119
right. So my song is not
about potatoes, all right, they can't

447
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:44.079
all be perfect. My song is
I Don't Like Mondays. It's a song

448
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.679
by the Irish new wave punk group
The boomtown Rats. It was written by

449
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.440
Bob Geldoff and Geldoff is a singer, songwriter and political activists. He also

450
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.840
conceived and co wrote band aids tune
do They Know It's Christmas with his friend

451
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:05.119
musician Midge You of Ultravox, which
became the nineteen eighty four Christmas number one

452
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:09.559
in the UK and the best selling
British pop single until that time. Band

453
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:15.079
Aid later evolved into Live Aid in
nineteen eighty five, the first international real

454
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:21.440
time concert broadcast across the globe for
two days. Band Aid and live Aid

455
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:28.239
were created to bring relief to the
starving in Ethiopia, Ethiopia. Geldof was

456
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:32.920
knighted by the British Conservative Government in
nineteen eighty six for this achievement. The

457
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.079
song was originally written as a reggae
song which I did not know. I

458
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:42.719
am a huge boomtown Rats fan.
It was released in nineteen seventy nine from

459
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:47.280
their The Fine Arts of Servicing album. The boomtown Rats were formed in nineteen

460
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.800
seventy five. All members were from
Ireland. They were called originally the Nightlife

461
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:59.480
Thugs, which I kind of love, yeah yeah, from a Woody Gulf

462
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:05.760
It's a bit of a mouthful though, I guess Boomtown rises a mouthfuls,

463
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:13.840
which is from Nighttime Nightlife. Thugs
was from a Woody Guthrie autobiography. Bob

464
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:17.360
Geldoff was initially the manager, but
he took over the lead vocals. He

465
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:23.079
wrote the song after reading a telex
report at Georgia State University's campus radio station

466
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:30.039
WRIS on the shooting spree of a
sixteen year old Brenda Anne Spencer, who

467
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:35.519
fired at children in a school playground
at Grover Cleveland Elementary School in San Diego,

468
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:40.360
California, on January twenty ninth,
nineteen seventy seventy nine. Excuse me,

469
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:47.119
killing two adults and injuring eight children
and one police officer. Spencer showed

470
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:52.880
no remorse for her crime. Her
explanation for her actions was, I don't

471
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.880
like mondays this live NDS up the
day, which I had never heard.

472
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:05.000
There was a second part to it. Oh yeah, So she lived across

473
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.960
the street and she opened fire on
the school with a rifle her father had

474
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:13.360
given her for Christmas. Geldof said, I was doing this radio interview in

475
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:15.960
Atlanta with Johnny Fingers, also from
the band, and there was a telex

476
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.920
machine beside me. I read it
as it came out. Not liking mondays

477
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:24.239
as a reason for doing something is
a bit strange. I was thinking about

478
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:28.599
it on the way back to the
hotel, and I just said, silicon

479
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.320
chip inside her head had switched to
overload. I wrote that down, and

480
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:37.599
the journalists interviewing her said, tell
me why it was such a senseless act.

481
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.679
It was the perfect senseless act,
and this was the perfect senseless reason

482
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.360
for doing it. So perhaps I
wrote the perfect senseless song to illustrate it.

483
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:52.559
It wasn't an attempt to exploit tragedy. Really sad, Let's play that

484
00:41:52.920 --> 00:42:23.480
song. It's a great song.
Though, Silkin chip Bell said, ahead,

485
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:30.679
get switched to OVERLOWD, and nobody's
gonna go to school today. She's

486
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:37.320
gonna make them stay at all,
and that it doesn't understand it. He

487
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:43.800
always said she was good at school, and he can see no reasons because

488
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.480
there no reasons. Why the reason
do you need to be shore? Oh,

489
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:54.599
tell me why I don't like money, tell me why I don't like

490
00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:07.159
many, why I don't like him? And I want to shoot the funk

491
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:20.800
day down makes machine is kept so
clean and it types do awaiting world I'm

492
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.719
learning feels so shocked. Father's world
is right, and the Dutch don dude

493
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:32.039
their own little girl sweet sixteen Niga
beat Chinky Now I hain't so to admit

494
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:37.360
dim beat. They can see no
whole reasons because there are no reasons.

495
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:44.039
Why reasons? Do even need a
time? Any why? I don't like

496
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:52.719
this anyway? I don't like mine
anywhy I don't like moness. I want

497
00:43:52.760 --> 00:44:19.679
to shoot the funk day down,
down down, shooting on down another plane

498
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:25.199
stopped in the playground. Now she
wants to play with the dregleman and school

499
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:31.239
time early and so we'll be learning
in the lesson today is today? And

500
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:37.880
then the boat home backles of the
captain tangles with the brothers your wife,

501
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:44.800
and he can see no reasons because
the no reasons what pleas him? Do

502
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:52.440
you need to? Who die?
Die? And the silicon chip ben say

503
00:44:52.719 --> 00:45:00.519
ahead gets switched to overlow Oh,
and nobody's gonna go to school to She's

504
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:07.119
gonna make them stay, and that
it doesn't understand that he always said she

505
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:13.800
was good. It's good and he
could see no reasons because I'm no reasons

506
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:20.559
why reason knew you need to be
sure. Tell me why I don't like

507
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:28.119
Moneys anyway, I don't like many. Tell me why I don't like I

508
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:32.679
don't tell any why I don't like
my. Tell any why I don't like.

509
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:39.239
I don't tell you I don't like
place. Tell me why I don't

510
00:45:39.280 --> 00:46:07.519
like they don't want to shoot Boo
the Hall day down. Lots of feels.

511
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:13.000
Huh, Yeah, I've never heard
that before. That was fantastic.

512
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.599
Really it's on Oh my gosh,
I haven't heard it. When was it

513
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.639
written? Mercedes, you're like the
most irish of the group I know,

514
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.280
and considering the bat well, we
can't see this, but we you can,

515
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:30.039
but considering my background here on the
video is Galway. And but yeah,

516
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.880
I've never heard that, and Mercedes
that that was just I liked it.

517
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.000
I just had a lot of like, like feeling and passion to it.

518
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:38.719
I don't know how else to describe
it, you know, yep,

519
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:45.000
yep. I mean it was a
beautiful piece of music. It's so beautiful.

520
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:50.599
Such a topic is so sad.
But I think that was the problem

521
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.239
that they that that that that was
probably their biggest hit, but it was

522
00:46:54.320 --> 00:47:01.199
such a dark subject that it it
kind of like nobody want wanted to hear

523
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.480
what else they did, you know, And they had a lot of other

524
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.039
great stuff. They had amazing songs, but this one you're not going to

525
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:12.400
be hearing in a nightclub somewhere or
you know, nobody's gonna be playing an

526
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.679
on the jukebox. Yeah, let's
say it's not a feel good song.

527
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.199
Let's put it that way. No, but while it was playing, I

528
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:25.880
texted Mercedes. I said, this
song has all the characteristics of musical theater.

529
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.559
It's just so well done. It
was very it was very like Broadway

530
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:36.599
issh in terms of its y.
You know. Yeah, I think they

531
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.559
were probably bigger in the UK than
than they were or should have been over

532
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:45.519
here. And like you said that, Geldolf, he was knighted for the

533
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:51.239
live age stuff, so I mean, he definitely people knew who he was

534
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.800
but for that. But I don't
think like, well, you say,

535
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:58.760
John, this is a new one
for you. But it wasn't really a

536
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:00.760
big hit over here. It was
it was just too dark. It was

537
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:05.199
just too you know, tragic.
Yeah, well, I got to see

538
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:08.639
it years ago. Time. I'm
sorry. I think probably at the time

539
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:14.079
it was like an isolated you know, incident that was completely unexpected and it

540
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:20.920
is so unfortunate that it's so relevant
in our world today that you know,

541
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:24.480
this could be anywhere, anytime,
anybody, for no reason at all.

542
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.800
I remember this getting a lot,
a lot of airplay. Some stations did

543
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.360
play it, Yeah, it did, and it was well, it was

544
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:38.559
still kind of topical at the time, Like I think the the tragedy happened

545
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.760
with seventy five and the song was
like four years later, so it was

546
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:50.840
still you know, fresh in people's
memories too. That explains a lot too

547
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:57.920
then because fall of seventy eight to
fall of seventy nine I was living over

548
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:01.199
in the UK, so that explained
well I heard it a lot now that

549
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:06.719
would do it and uh and then
I think it unfortunately I kind of co

550
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.159
opted as like you know, oh
it's money. Oh I don't like Mondays,

551
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:12.800
you know, like you know,
like like it like it was some

552
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:17.159
sort of like you know, like
not a joke, but it was not

553
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:21.000
the seriousness that the song wasn't.
Right. Well, if you don't know

554
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:22.719
what the song is about it and
it just sounds like a great song,

555
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:27.280
Yeah, if you don't know what
the lyrics are you don't pay attention to

556
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.920
it. And I remember, I
remember when it actually happened. I remember,

557
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:35.719
yeah, when when it happened.
So and so, you know,

558
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.119
when he wrote the song, I
knew as soon as I heard. I

559
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.000
was like, I knew what he
was talking about, or you know,

560
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:44.360
what what he was singing about.
And and I remember that, you know,

561
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.679
that was the shocking reason too,
that you know, whatever her reasoning

562
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:52.599
was, that was nothing new too. That was that was well known,

563
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:58.159
and everybody was just like, you
know, incredulous. And and here we

564
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.840
are, you know, almost fifty
years later, and we're still scratching our

565
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:07.239
heads like what's going on here?
But I'll get off my soapbox on that.

566
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.440
I finally got to see them a
few years back, a handful of

567
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:20.280
years back, and I didn't I
got a ticket. I just found out

568
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.960
that they were playing, got a
ticket. I am a huge fan,

569
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:27.400
like I said, and I was
living up in Rockland and decided to go

570
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.639
see them. Got in my car
by myself, got stuck on the Palisades

571
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:36.320
Parkway for I don't know how long. I was flipping out because I did

572
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.559
not want to miss this band,
because I had wanted to see them for

573
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:46.840
so many years. I got to
the club, got there, got inside,

574
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:52.519
like, ran inside, found out
that they hadn't started yet and there

575
00:50:52.639 --> 00:51:00.519
was four opening bands, four four
opening vand oh lord, so I had

576
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:07.199
to stand by myself for four sets
before they came on. And then when

577
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.719
I left there, I went back
to get my car and the garage was

578
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:19.679
closed. Oh. I was crying
outside the garage and then finally discovered a

579
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:24.519
phone uber like in a little little
tiny words land letters somewhere and I earned

580
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:29.199
numbers and I called and the guy
said yeah, yeah, yeah, So

581
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:34.320
he came and brought my car out, and I got onto the West Side

582
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:39.199
Highway and got pulled over by a
coup man Mercedes. You're striking out this

583
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:44.679
whole night terrible. The good thing
was that I got to see them.

584
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:46.920
But the cop said to me,
were you drinking? And I said no,

585
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.400
and he said are you sure?
And he was sniffing inside my car

586
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.800
and no, office, I was
not drinking. And he said, do

587
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:58.000
you know why I pulled you over? And I said no, I honestly

588
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:05.039
don't and he said, your lights
turn on. Oh oops. I was

589
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:09.480
so stressed out from the garage situation
and the whole entire night that and you

590
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.599
know it's still it's in the city, it's still light in this you know,

591
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.960
not what time it is. It
was light on the highway so well

592
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:23.360
as I found out the hard way
once that that's a telltale sign to you

593
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:29.440
know, probably telling Brian nothing.
He doesn't know. That's a telltale sign

594
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:36.880
that there may be something ishy going
on, you know, alcohol wise with

595
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.239
a driver. If if they're driving
around without the lights on it and it's

596
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:44.320
pitch blackout and you say, well, yeah, because I just got out

597
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.840
of a parking lot it was all
lit up, and yeah, but you

598
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:52.039
still have to remember to turn your
lights on. But better better idea call

599
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:58.079
a cab. Yes, yeah,
you know, Mercedes. I have to

600
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.519
tell you I got pulled over once
for not having my lights on either.

601
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:06.760
And I didn't have any cool story
around it involving going to a concert.

602
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:12.599
It was just I had just moved
to Cooperstown to work for Glimmerglass Opera,

603
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.239
literally just moved there and I was
just super stressed, like with everything,

604
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.320
and you know, you get to
a new town and you don't know where

605
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:22.079
anything is and driving around and it's
like, whoops, my lights aren't on

606
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:23.800
because I have no idea what I'm
doing, and I'm totally confused. I

607
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:29.119
just moved here, so it wasn't
nearly as cool as your story. And

608
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.760
honestly, just the garage part alone, I could understand. That's why you

609
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:36.199
were like super stressed and I forgot
to turn your lights on? Makes perfect

610
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.000
sense to me. Why I do
it all the time? I forget and

611
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:42.719
I haven't had a drink in thirty
years, and I still forget to turn

612
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.960
my lights on. So you know
it's not. My car has an automatic

613
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:51.719
setting for the lights. That's good, so it turns them on when it

614
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.760
needs to. Yeah, I bet
so many people like us have had that

615
00:53:54.920 --> 00:54:00.280
experience, just from like being super
stressed and then you forget to turn them

616
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.320
on. And now all the cars
they just have automatic lights. I don't

617
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:07.719
think I got a pictures, and
I think I didn't get home till two

618
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:09.039
or three in the morning, and
as I said, I was by myself.

619
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:15.400
So why didn't you tell me about
this? I would have gone to

620
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:17.679
that. I've never seen them.
I would have definitely gone to that show.

621
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:22.000
I don't feel like I don't think
you were. No, this was

622
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.840
not that long ago. I think
you were doing something or something something was

623
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:30.000
going on. Was it like a
super last minute thing that you have been

624
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:34.280
thinking about it and then at the
last minute you decided no, no,

625
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:37.400
yeah, you got you got to
see you got to see them. That's

626
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:45.400
yes, that's it And who will
be forever forgotten? Yes, Oh,

627
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:52.000
I have absolutely no idea. I
didn't remember nothing about them. I remember

628
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.239
thinking, how am I going to
go to the ladies room before Bob Geldof

629
00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:00.159
goes on and get my spot back? Because I had a really good spot.

630
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:06.920
You know, you make friends.
Yeah, I asked the people next

631
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.440
time, I'll be right back and
told Spot that's it. Yeah, they

632
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:15.920
said, as I call it,
look big bumping for me. Nice anyway.

633
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:20.519
Bob Geldof had originally intended the song
as a B side, but changed

634
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:24.559
his mind after the song turned out
to be successful with audiences. Spencer the

635
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:30.119
girl's family, tried to prevent the
single for being released in the US,

636
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:35.400
but were unsuccessful. Later, Geldof
admitted that he regretted writing the song because

637
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:40.280
he felt he had made Brenda Spencer
famous. In twenty nineteen, Bob Geldof

638
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:45.199
and Johnny Fingers reached an agreement in
their dispute over who had written the song,

639
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:52.920
because until then it was credited only
to geldof Fingers received a financial settlement

640
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:58.519
and a co credit and despite it
reaching number one in the UK Neil,

641
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:01.679
as you said, it only reached
verse seventy three on the US Billboard Hot

642
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:09.760
one hundred. That's it, that's
it. I was waiting for a big

643
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:16.360
finale, like okay, finale was
my story. But getting pulled over.

644
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:21.719
I didn't know about the second part
of the quote. Yeah, it's interesting.

645
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:27.440
I had no idea, no idea. It's disturbing. It's disturbing to

646
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:30.440
say the least. Yeah, yeah, all right, this Liiven's up the

647
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:36.239
day. Yikes is what she said. Should have had a cup of coffee

648
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:39.960
instead. All right, we're gonna
take our second real quick break and we're

649
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:45.440
gonna be back with more Saint Patrick's
Day slash Irish related kind of stuff right

650
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.840
after this, So stick around.
This is Hudson Riddle Radio dot Com.

651
00:56:50.239 --> 00:57:05.239
Oh right, Hodson, your radio
dot com wants a nicer hot and you

652
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:09.119
can't stop and welcome back. We're
gonna just hop right back in with Gail.

653
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:17.960
The song I chose is called take
Back the City, and it was

654
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:24.360
released in two thousand and eight by
the band Snow Patrol. Snow Patrol is

655
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:32.440
an Irish Scottish band. The founders
met at Dundee University back in nineteen ninety

656
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:38.039
four and they're still going today.
The members are Gary Lightbody, Johnny Quinn,

657
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:45.159
Nathan Connolly, Paul Wilson and Johnny
McDade. This song is from their

658
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:52.000
fifth album called A hundred Million Sons
and the lyrics were written by Gary Lightbody

659
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:58.719
and the music was composed by Snow
Patrol as a group. And the song

660
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:05.239
has positive lyrics and it's about light
Bodies love for Belfast, which is his

661
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.480
home city. So let's give a
listen. I don't know if I might

662
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:12.440
be the only one in the group
who knows this song. I don't know.

663
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.000
I just remember when it came out, I didn't know what it was

664
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:29.559
about. I just knew I liked
it. Seek back to City for your

665
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:36.480
sil tonight. I'll seek back to
city for me, Seek back to City

666
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:44.559
for your sil tonight. Whoa woa. God knows you put your life into

667
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:51.239
it times and it's both creedle you
and crushed. But now it's time to

668
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:59.559
make your own demands. WHOAOA?
All these years later, and it's killing

669
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:07.079
me. You're broken records and works, ten thousand creators, where else should

670
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:15.440
be? Whoa wo don't need to
put you onto smile mouth, don't need

671
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:23.199
you then sing it all. I
love this place enough to happle down woo.

672
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:30.480
It's a last, it's a start. It's a far. O my

673
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:38.599
god, art, you're sad.
You're a call every crack, every one

674
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:50.119
an side. They can fight and
get your fright. We can say until

675
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:58.920
you dry. It's a fun just
never starts. I love the same and

676
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:07.400
night. I love the same,
always gets steep like light and especi me

677
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:22.679
out after days long, LI know
a small as make silence, sake back

678
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:43.840
the same and night. Tell me
you never wanted more than this, and

679
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:49.920
I will stop talking now. One
perfect partner, Want a turtle cass,

680
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:59.559
whoa whoa Sit back the city for
yourself tonight. I'll sit back the city

681
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:08.480
for me. Take back the city
for yourself tonight. It's a mess.

682
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:15.800
It's a start. It's a far, my god, far you're saying,

683
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:25.519
You're called every crack, everyone to
the side. You can fight, you

684
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:36.159
get your side fly, you can
say until you drop. Fun just never

685
01:01:36.480 --> 01:02:01.760
starts. I love say tonight say
always like a light Express after silence,

686
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:45.960
Si Si Si love the Sun and
night I love the Sun, the Sun,

687
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:52.840
the city. Ah, So what
do you think, guys? I

688
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:55.960
like it. I like it and
like Mercedes Selection. I actually had not

689
01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:00.840
heard that one either, and I
was very good. Yeah, that was

690
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:08.440
new on me and I really liked
those crunchy guitars that Yes, this came

691
01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:14.840
out in two thousand and eight.
Believe it or not, it went to

692
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:22.280
number one on the US Adult Alternative
Songs Billboard or that either definitely a nineties

693
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:29.239
influence. The charted in the top
five in Ireland and the top ten in

694
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:35.360
the UK. And in an interview
when the song came out, light Body

695
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:43.039
commented that the song is about the
love for Belfast rather than concentrating on the

696
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:47.039
conflicts that have taken place over the
years. And you can you can just

697
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:54.440
hear it in in this song,
how much he loves this city. And

698
01:03:54.599 --> 01:04:00.159
he said, you could really take
away the lyrics. You should google the

699
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:10.039
lyrics sometime that you could really apply
the lyrics to this song to whatever your

700
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:15.199
own beloved city is. It's just
so positive and I really like it.

701
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:21.760
All right, cool, Thank you, Gail and rough to Jess. All

702
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:28.159
right, So I have to admit
that I really struggled picking a song for

703
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:34.880
tonight's show because I wanted to do
something that was meaningful and respectful and you

704
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:40.800
know, very positive for the Irish
culture and all of that. I didn't

705
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.320
want to pick a drinking song,
and I really didn't want to pick a

706
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:48.920
funeral song because that's just way too
depressing for me. What else is less?

707
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:54.360
So that really limited? Why should
you be any different than the restauran

708
01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:58.800
that or you two? Right?
Yes? And I knew that you two

709
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:09.000
wasn't an option, so oh that's
not the problem. Um, So I

710
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:15.199
wound up getting not too far from
where from from the whole funeral thing because

711
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:20.559
the song that I ultimately picked is
a song that's actually about lovers being separated

712
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:26.639
by an emigration. So that was
also a very you know, common kind

713
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:30.159
of Irish thing where somebody had to
leave and um, you know, so

714
01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:36.719
so it's it is a sad song, however it is I think the version

715
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:42.880
that I chose in particular is a
beautiful song. So, uh, here's

716
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:45.000
a little bit of background. The
version that I chose is by The High

717
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:53.760
Kings and that was released in The
group was formed in Dublin in two thousand

718
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:58.239
and eight. They have released a
total of five studio albums, and the

719
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:04.000
first three of which appeared on the
Billboard World Music Charts at number three or

720
01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:09.840
higher. The album that the song
was recorded on is called Memory Lane,

721
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:16.440
which was released in twenty ten on
the music label Universal Music Ireland. The

722
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:24.320
song itself comes from actually a Scottish
song that was originally called the Bonnie Banks

723
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:29.639
oh Lock Lamond, and it dates
back at least to the nineteenth century.

724
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:36.960
The Irish variation is sung to the
traditional melody. It was popularized by Tommy

725
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:44.000
Makeum, who is often known as
the godfather of Irish music. The earliest

726
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:49.199
known recording of the Irish version dates
back to nineteen thirty four, and it's

727
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:55.280
been done by many artists, including
the Chieftains as well as the Irish Tenors.

728
01:06:56.039 --> 01:07:04.960
So let's take a listen the hills, my bonny Irish lass, come

729
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:16.480
over the hills to your daring.
You choose the rue love, and I

730
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:30.360
amill make the vow and I be
your true love forever. Race the rose

731
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:46.360
that youngder garden rose fearsly of the
viely clear, the water that flows from

732
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:59.719
the point, But my love is
fair. Then lady tours damn by colar

733
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:12.199
ernees green woolls that westray when the
moon and the stars they were shiney the

734
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:18.760
moon chee on its rays, on
her locks of golden hair, and she

735
01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:35.600
swore she'd be mine love for falser
rows that in yonder garden rows fair is

736
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:48.039
the lily of the viney canlearise the
water that flows from the point. But

737
01:08:48.479 --> 01:09:03.000
my love is fair. Theny it's
not full the parting that my sister pains.

738
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:15.039
It's not for the grief of my
mother. It's all far the loss

739
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:31.319
of my bodyishes that my heart is
breaking for read is the road sad and

740
01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:45.560
young dad and grows faaries. The
lily of the vibely clearies the water that

741
01:09:45.880 --> 01:10:01.880
flows from the point. But my
life is fair. Theny ready rose yonder

742
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:16.319
garden rose fair. The vily clears
the water that flows from the boine.

743
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:33.159
But my love is fair. Then
So that was Rubs the Rose by the

744
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:40.680
High Kings. An amazing a cappella
version. I think it's vocals. It's

745
01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:45.840
tough to beat a nice, tight
harmony like that. Wow, did you

746
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:53.439
Jess, did you say it was
luck Lomond lam Lamont. Yes, you

747
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.560
know what I was thinking listening to
that, I thought, that sounds so

748
01:10:56.680 --> 01:11:01.159
much like Rhythm of My Heart by
Rod Stewart, and you know it from

749
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:06.079
Yes that is I thought, I
remember, I vaguely remember he wrote.

750
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:12.079
He wrote, it's a tribute to
World War One veterans, and they kind

751
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:15.199
of grew into all veterans, but
that's where he got it. Yeah,

752
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:21.920
yeah, amazing stuff, amazing stuff. I also listened to the version by

753
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:27.600
the Irish Tenors and this song,
you know, also lends itself to a

754
01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:32.399
full orchestra as well as just the
harmony of the four voices. So it's

755
01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:35.800
amazing what these folk songs, you
know, what you can do with them

756
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:42.520
over time. And I had to
because I didn't recognize a word in the

757
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:45.239
song, so I said, let
me look this up. I had to

758
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:48.960
look up what the Boin was.
And so if there's anybody else who doesn't

759
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:55.399
know, that is a river in
the East Republic of Ireland and it rises

760
01:11:55.560 --> 01:12:00.359
in the Bog of Allen and flows
northeast to the Irish Sea. So in

761
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:03.760
case you were not sure what the
boy had no idea, their idea.

762
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:09.640
So that's my bit of education for
the Day, Happy Saint Patrick's Day.

763
01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:13.119
Everybody. Yeah, I like that
one. That's yeah, that was good.

764
01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:15.560
I think I would take that over
the Irish tenors. But that's another

765
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:20.680
fight. We'll fight about you two
today, Irish centers another day. We're

766
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:24.199
gonna take another quick break, and
we have two more to go, so

767
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:28.039
stick around this more coming up here
on the Rock and Roll History Show Hudson

768
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:39.880
River Radio. Your dog likes us
Hudson River Radio dot com and welcome back

769
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.840
to the Rock and Roll History Show. We have two more selections to go

770
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:47.199
for this week's Everything Irish except you
two, and we're up to Becky.

771
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:57.600
Okay, So after the very inspiring
and lovely song that Jess chose, I'm

772
01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:02.880
gonna bring it down with my choice. I'm sorry. You know this is

773
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:10.319
very interesting. I admit I didn't
know about any Irish groups or singers other

774
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:14.680
than you two, and I knew
that tonight's topic was anything but you two.

775
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:18.399
So I did a little research and
discovered that one of my favorite groups

776
01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:21.560
is Irish. And I should have
known this, but I didn't. Because

777
01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:29.760
the song that I chose is Zombie
by the Cranberries and it was released in

778
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:33.520
nineteen ninety four when I was in
college and I was just practicing my bass

779
01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:38.479
clarinet, like eight to ten hours
a day, and that's all I was

780
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:42.199
doing. So the world was kind
of going on around me and I had

781
01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:47.079
no clue about anything. So terns
out. Probably everybody knows that that's an

782
01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:53.199
Irish group. So the group what? The group is no longer together?

783
01:13:54.840 --> 01:14:01.279
The lead singer of the Cranberries Dolores
Mary Eileen oh Reordan. I hope I

784
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:06.239
pronounced that correctly. I would think
it's oh Reordan, but I honestly can't

785
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:09.720
tell. I listened to a bunch
of interviews. I don't know if it's

786
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:14.520
oh Reordon or anyway. I won't
butcher it. I know nothing about Gaelic.

787
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:16.760
I'm not gonna even attempt it.
Which is going to call her Dolores

788
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:20.359
o Reordan because I'm an American and
I don't know how I've heard it.

789
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:24.000
Yeah, I think that's the only
way I've heard That's the only way I've

790
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:28.600
heard it, so oh Reordan,
Yeah, okay, perfect. So you

791
01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:34.640
know, she had this incredible voice, and I say had because sadly she

792
01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:40.319
died in twenty eighteen at the age
of forty six. I remember hearing about

793
01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:48.159
this. She drowned accidentally in the
bathtub um and died from alcohol intoxication.

794
01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:54.159
So she she had overdosed on alcohol
it's like point three to three percent in

795
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:59.439
her body and um, and she
drowned it in the bathub um. The

796
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.880
day that she died, she was
actually supposed to be singing vocals for a

797
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:09.159
new cover of the song by Bad
Wolves. Yes, that is a very

798
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:14.960
good woe. Yeah, so they
didn't know what to do. They ultimately

799
01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:18.760
released the cover as a tribute to
her and donated all the proceeds to her

800
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:24.720
children. She had three children.
She was born in nineteen seventy one,

801
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:30.880
and she got her start singing in
the church. She was very Roman Catholic,

802
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:33.560
so the Catholic church was where she
got her start, and she just

803
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:41.640
loved singing. She was very close
with her mother. I read that sadly,

804
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:45.680
between the ages of eight and twelve, she had been sexually abused by

805
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:50.720
a person in a position of trust
with the family. That's all it says.

806
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:54.920
You can kind of conclude or get
some ideas of who that might have

807
01:15:55.000 --> 01:16:00.399
been, because she said that when
her father passed away, she had all

808
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.840
kinds of anxiety about having to see
this person again, and she did and

809
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:06.680
the person, the man, apologized, and of course, what can you

810
01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:11.000
do? Then she already the damage
was done. And she had struggled her

811
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:15.199
whole life with depression. She had
been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and she

812
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.479
just she had a really difficult time
in life. She had a very short

813
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:27.960
life. She did get married in
ninety four to Don Burton, who was

814
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:32.520
the manager of Duran Duran he was
He's Canadian and so you know, okay,

815
01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:35.960
she kind of lived in She lived
in Canada and then in Ireland and

816
01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:40.199
Canada, Ireland, US, you
know, back and forth. She's from

817
01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:46.840
She was from County Limerick in Ireland
and just such a tragic story. But

818
01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:53.800
her voice is like none other.
It's just so beautiful. And the song

819
01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:59.079
Zombie, unfortunately, is about something
that we hear a lot about in Irish

820
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:05.079
music, especially with you two,
about the conflict with Northern Ireland, the

821
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:15.319
IRA, and so this song is
particularly about the ninety three bombing in England

822
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:20.640
where two young boys were killed,
just in Warrington, Cheshire, England,

823
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:29.199
and two young boys Jonathan Ball and
Tim Perry Perry sorry we're killed. So

824
01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:33.720
it's kind of heavy, you know, but she just has such a beautiful

825
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:40.399
voice, and I just this is
really my favorite song by the Cranberries.

826
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:44.680
Her other songs are you know,
she has more uplifting songs that she did,

827
01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:46.720
but I just love this one.
So let's go ahead and listen to

828
01:17:46.920 --> 01:18:54.800
Zombie had Hands, Holy chart.
I s calls styling. Are we stay

829
01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:03.600
mat You see, it's not me, it's an and my family your yard

830
01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:14.199
there fighting with their chas and their
bombs and their bombs and their guns in

831
01:19:14.399 --> 01:20:11.600
the yard yards yr ar army,
armyr sarve arve, my father, spread

832
01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:29.640
hot jeans, take over causes science. We must be staging. It's the

833
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:39.079
same odeed since nineteen sixteen in the
yea in the yard head they're still fighting

834
01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:46.399
with their tanks and their bombs,
their bombs and their guns. He d

835
01:20:46.960 --> 01:22:53.399
a yard dian yar yardingtveingtveing sarve.
I know it's a sad topic, but

836
01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:58.560
you know, Dolores oh Reordan,
she just there will never be another voice

837
01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:03.640
like hers. Um. She was
just um, a beautiful soul, beautiful

838
01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:14.159
singer. Praised for being an iconic
figure in Ireland. She was there.

839
01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:18.279
It was like a three Day memorial
for her. When she was buried in

840
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:25.439
Ireland, the President of Ireland was
there and she was she was an iconic

841
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:30.000
figure. A couple of kind of
interesting things that are not so sad.

842
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:36.079
The video Okay, so the video
is intense, but it was directed by

843
01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:44.520
Samuel Bayer, who also directed Nirvana's
Smells Like Teen spirit Um So if you

844
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:49.439
haven't seen the video, check it
out. After the song was released in

845
01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:55.560
nineteen ninety four. In on August
thirty first, nineteen ninety four, just

846
01:23:55.800 --> 01:24:00.319
a few weeks after the song was
released, the IRA declared a ceasefire after

847
01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:08.039
twenty five years of the conflict um
and It's Some critics believed it was They

848
01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:12.920
wondered if it was because at the
Cranberries and the IRA didn't want them to

849
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:15.960
make any more release any more songs
about them, which I think is kind

850
01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:19.359
of funny. But hey, you
know, maybe maybe it's true. Maybe

851
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:24.560
they just didn't want to be the
topic of any more songs. Uh.

852
01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:29.159
Nevertheless, that was that was great. That's that's good, and there's so

853
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:34.560
much passion in that song. That's
one of those songs that's just so all

854
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:44.880
around good that I'm actually tired after
listening to it. But I love that

855
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:51.399
song. There's just so much substance
to it vocally, creatively, instrumentally,

856
01:24:53.680 --> 01:25:01.800
it's really just like it's moved.
It's really really grabs you because it just

857
01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:09.279
starts so it with such control and
you know, kind of focus and very

858
01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:11.920
small and you think, oh,
this is nice, and then it's like

859
01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:16.239
boom uh. And that's the power. I think of her voice and of

860
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:21.520
the writing. Like you said,
Gail, Um, what else was I

861
01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:26.680
gonna say about the Cranberries. Oh, the original name of the Cranberries,

862
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:36.439
h was the Cranberry saw Us.
I'm that Oh, there's going to be

863
01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:45.880
a Stanberry talk about mister potato head
grand that Cranberry saw you. And she

864
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:49.279
saw it and said, I don't
actually I don't know who decided to change

865
01:25:49.319 --> 01:25:54.600
the name in the band. Um. The original the band formed in nineteen

866
01:25:54.720 --> 01:26:00.840
eighty nine. Brothers Noel and Michael
hor Hogan sorry from Limerick, Ireland,

867
01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:08.079
founded the band and then they brought
on drummer Spurgal Lawlor and then there was

868
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:12.880
a different singer, and then Dolores
came along and they loved her and she

869
01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:17.359
was their lead singer. But yeah, the original name original name was the

870
01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:25.920
Cranberry Sauce. I'm so glad they
changed going either cranberries or sauce, but

871
01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:31.319
together just doesn't work. Yeah,
I don't think sauce would have worked either,

872
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:36.399
quite frankly, but no cranberries.
That was that was a great name.

873
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:41.960
And also, you know, I
did see a lot of interviews online

874
01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:47.840
on YouTube with Dolores, and uh, yeah, it's there's so many great

875
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:50.720
interviews with her. If you have
the chance, go listen to them.

876
01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:55.560
You know, one thing about her
singing is she was very unapologetic about her

877
01:26:55.640 --> 01:27:00.359
Irish accent and she you know,
she did not apologize for having it,

878
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:03.520
and you can hear it come through
if you listen to this song again.

879
01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:11.760
She says it's the same old thing
since nineteen sixteen, but when you listen

880
01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:15.960
to her singing, it sounds like
it's the same old ting. And if

881
01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:18.359
you hear an interview with her,
I just noticed, like she I guess,

882
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:21.359
the ahes are just not pronounced,
kind of like in French, ages

883
01:27:21.399 --> 01:27:25.199
are not pronounced. So that was
kind of neat. I always like to

884
01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:29.399
hear those things in singers when there's
especially when they're speaking, you know,

885
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:31.600
when they're in interviews because you could
hear it in their singing and then you

886
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:35.600
know, you hear an interview go
oh that's pretty cool. So did somebody

887
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:42.399
actually want her to apologize for having
an Irish accent? What's up? Somebody

888
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:45.720
wanted her to apologize for having in
Irish accent? Well, you know,

889
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:51.000
a lot of a lot of artists
when they come from a country another country,

890
01:27:51.479 --> 01:27:56.359
they you know, hires and people
try to get the accent out of

891
01:27:56.399 --> 01:28:00.600
their singing, and any trace of
it is not seen is a good thing.

892
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:05.479
Um, Which is I think why
like when I was younger, middle

893
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:10.119
school, you know, high school
or whatever, I'd be so shocked when

894
01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:15.680
I would hear a singer talk in
an interview after Yeah, because they're they're

895
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:18.399
songs they sing, so you know, it's like so even in terms of

896
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:25.399
you can't hear any kind of inflection
or dialect. Um. So yeah,

897
01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:30.479
I'm I'm glad she she hold she
was holding tight to her her roots and

898
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:36.000
she was I don't know, oh
yeah, okay, people were weird.

899
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:41.479
Yeah, I mean it's it's trying
to kind of like, um, you

900
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:45.920
know, everything has to be mainstream, everything has to be kind of uh,

901
01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:54.000
I don't know, even I guess
monolization of America. Yeah, so

902
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:58.640
that was my choice. All right, we got one more to go.

903
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:04.079
I went with a band called horse
Lips from Ireland. You heard me right,

904
01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:13.119
Horse than Sauce, which ended the
Horse the Lips all right, never

905
01:29:13.239 --> 01:29:19.640
mind. The three founding members Barry
Devlin, Aim and Carr Charles O'Connor,

906
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:25.920
they all worked together at an advertising
agency in Dublin. They were recruited to

907
01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:30.359
be in a pretend band for a
harp lagger commercial, one of Neil's former

908
01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:34.720
drinks of choice, and they needed
a keyboard player or a pretend keyboard player,

909
01:29:35.079 --> 01:29:39.640
so they grabbed a friend named Jim
Lockhart, and the four of them

910
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:44.239
enjoyed pretending to be a band so
much that they decided to become a real

911
01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:49.000
band in nineteen seventy kind of like
the Monkeys, similar story. So the

912
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:54.079
name of the band is a spoonerism
from the title The Four Horsemen of the

913
01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:59.159
Apocalypse, which turned into the Four
Pocksmen of the horse Lips. And as

914
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:02.399
where Horselips came from? I like
that, yep. Originally they spelled it

915
01:30:02.760 --> 01:30:09.800
lyp Se and then they just changed
it to l ips. They went pro

916
01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:14.600
on st Patrick's Day in nineteen seventy
two. They were one of the few

917
01:30:15.159 --> 01:30:18.000
groups that were able to cross the
border of Ireland and Northern Ireland without any

918
01:30:18.039 --> 01:30:21.640
problems. They were popular on both
sides, something that wasn't very common at

919
01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:26.760
the time. They played together for
ten years and then called it quits on

920
01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:29.840
good terms. They just decided that
was it. Ten years was good.

921
01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:35.079
They've gotten together with different members on
and off against sporadic gigs every once in

922
01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:40.800
a while, but no touring,
nothing. Steady Horse Lips are widely considered

923
01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:45.600
to be the founding fathers of Celtic
rock for their infusion of traditional Irish music

924
01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:49.520
styles and the use of traditional instruments, which you will hear if you see

925
01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:54.399
their performances from the nineteen seventies,
and there are a few on YouTube.

926
01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:59.520
I can't help it laugh because it's
spinal tap. It is washing spinal tap,

927
01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:03.319
the way they dress, the facial
hair, the settings, the fog

928
01:31:03.439 --> 01:31:08.720
machines going well, it is watching
spinal taps. So the music is not

929
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:13.119
supposed to be funny, and it's
not, but watching them is very funny,

930
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:16.119
and I just can't help it laugh. Their most popular song was released

931
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:19.159
in nineteen seventy three. I'm going
to do my best to pronounce it.

932
01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:25.840
It's called Dark Doom d e a
rg, which I believe is Darg and

933
01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:30.279
I hope I'm saying that right,
Darg Doom, which roughly translates to red

934
01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:35.640
destroyer, an Irish mythical warrior named
Hound of Ulster. The song itself is

935
01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:41.199
based on an Irish battle march called
O'Neill's Cavalry March. And keep your ears

936
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:44.960
open for some fifes. And there's
a bagpipe in there and some other traditional

937
01:31:45.000 --> 01:32:09.000
instruments. So let's check out Dark
Doom from nineteen seventy three. That is

938
01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:15.640
cooler. Then let mother see my
mine is older. That is tree.

939
01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:26.840
I SI just see me coming.
You would better run gone. I can't

940
01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:50.079
gone, gone, gone, you
speaking whispers the fire myself and see your

941
01:32:50.159 --> 01:32:55.479
dad the bloody said with me.
I don't want you, I don't need

942
01:32:55.600 --> 01:33:00.159
you, I don't love you.
And to see I can't go. I'm

943
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:08.279
carry down. I'm carried down,
I'm dying down. I'm when to start

944
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:13.760
flight. You can hear me shouting
to hit the Battle of nine one hundred

945
01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:39.119
heads, so much better than wine. When it starts light, he shouting

946
01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:56.800
to hit the Battle of nine hundred
heads so much better than one. I'm

947
01:33:56.840 --> 01:34:46.479
a boy who was all not too
bad, right, that's awesomest line is

948
01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:51.640
jamming. Yeah, it's like Irish
nil Rogers. I remember, I remember

949
01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:56.560
hearing about them or reading the name, but I don't. I didn't know

950
01:34:56.760 --> 01:35:00.319
anything about them. I don't.
I might have heard them on one of

951
01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:02.439
the more progressive FM stations at the
time, you know, around the mid

952
01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:06.600
seventies, but I didn't remember or
know anything except you know, the name

953
01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:14.000
is kind of you know that stakes
with you? Oh that that that was

954
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:16.359
pretty cool. Again, I didn't
know what they sounded like really, and

955
01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:20.000
yeah it was. It was good
and they went out on the top.

956
01:35:20.039 --> 01:35:24.000
So you got to hand it to
him. What's that? I like that

957
01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:28.880
story too, I like that.
Yeah. So all right we made it

958
01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:31.640
to the end and it didn't turn
into a brawl about you too, so

959
01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:35.359
that's good. I mean, I
didn't even talk about it, I know.

960
01:35:35.720 --> 01:35:41.479
That's why I'm smiling. Expressly prohibited. It was expressly prohibited. But

961
01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:45.039
that doesn't mean there's not going to
be a fight about it. Oh go

962
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:47.840
ahead, that was gonna say that, Brian. I'm wondering if there might

963
01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:54.560
be some not total with some agreement
with you on this, you know,

964
01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:57.079
with the whole topic of you two. I don't know, I don't I

965
01:35:57.119 --> 01:36:00.920
don't know. In other words,
there's no reason to fight. Yes,

966
01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:05.079
oh, okay, fair enough.
I liked some of their songs and I'm

967
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:10.119
not embarrassed about it. I think
it's great that we were able to choose

968
01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:15.880
other songs to show how many diverse
um Irish groups and singers are out there.

969
01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:19.119
That yes, we didn't know,
and we didn't even touch on thin

970
01:36:19.239 --> 01:36:25.399
Lizzie. So there you go,
now, asked my other choice. Oh,

971
01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:30.640
they irritate me. Ah, well, now we know I can argue

972
01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:33.399
about that. If girl's having a
bad day, we avoid the Lizzie.

973
01:36:35.319 --> 01:36:40.239
If you know what's good for you. Yeah, and we learned so much

974
01:36:40.279 --> 01:36:47.119
about potatoes and multi purpose vegetables that
you can use to warm your hands and

975
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:53.640
use this toys. I remember my
mom told me that mister potato Head was

976
01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:58.159
originally she had that with a with
a potato and I thought that's crazy,

977
01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:01.880
but no, it's true. Oh
yeah, no, that that's the way

978
01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:06.560
he started. Believe. I've got
the scars and toys that you can stab

979
01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:12.399
yourself with that's just from plastics and
that cool little door on the back of

980
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:17.279
him where you can statch on the
accessory toody parts, potato button, potato

981
01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:21.640
rump yep. And with that it
is absolutely time to pull the plug and

982
01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:26.960
get out of here. Well,
thank you Crambones for for a great show,

983
01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:29.640
and thank you everybody for joining us
here for the rock and roll History

984
01:37:29.680 --> 01:37:32.760
Show. Don't forget to subscribe in
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985
01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:35.079
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986
01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:39.439
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987
01:37:39.479 --> 01:37:42.640
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988
01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:53.720
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