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everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
I'm Steve Rivera, you're Jagins. Also, we have Kevin in today
for a Thursday afternoon show. Lot's going on a couple of press commences.
I went to one and you listened to the other and I missed. Oh
yeah, but you, mister, you sleep, You're sleeping. I'm working,
Steve, I'm working hard. Yeah, right, I'm working. I
want to see video in the home in the homesketch of another another issue of
the magazine. I want to see the video of that. Hey, you're
in the magazine. So I want to report to the JEU Nudjet to the
Tommy Lloyd press comments in preparation for watching. I'll have a question about something
in the second What did Jed say? You know, well, it was
an elimable press conference. Both him and Brent Bevennables were there, so there
were a lot of you know kind of softball questions. Jed talked about,
you know, falling in love with with uh uh, the idea of being
a coach or being involved in football when he was ten years old and he
saw that festival with Michigan, I mean with the Penn State and Miami back
in eighty seven. Remember that National Championship festival that they set up for a
national champion game. You know the Campbell Testy any Testaverdi and Penn State won
that game. I remember fourteen ten. Miami was driving down for a game
winning score and Penn State picked him off. You know where I watched that.
I watched that with Kevin O'Neill in a hotel room in Corvallis getting ready
to play Oregon State. It had to be January something, eighty seven,
eighty eighty January. It was January eighty seven, Yeah, because that was
January seventh, I think it was eighty seven or eighty eight. I don't
think it would have been eighty seven because I was a senior in college.
Yeah, yeah, no, I remember that. I remember that game very
well because I was in Tempe. I was in Albuquerque watching the game over
break. No, okay, so jed, we'll talk about that more,
but nothing really sure. The only thing of other substance, he said.
And it's funny because the answers weren't like as extended as we get. You
know, when we talked to him and he was asked a really good question
about you know, playing a bowl game in Texas, you know that's sort
of going to be have to become a recruiting base for Arizona and whether he
saw this as a sort of an opening the door to that, and he
said, yeah, that you know, they're going into the Big Twelve.
They got you know, four teams that they're going to be playing that are
in Texas, UH with with Baylor, Texas Tech, UH Houston and TCU,
And so he thought, yeah, you know, this is a good
a good way for us to kind of come and you know, start to
get people to know us, and you know, we plan to use it
in that way. So that was really it. You know, both coaches
talked about how great the other team is and and that type of stuff.
So that was really really the gist of the of the press It was about
a twenty minute press conference, and so that was what he guess and Tommy
Tommy, you talked a lot. Obviously they play Wisconsin. So I'm gonna
I'm gonna throw this at you because Bruce probably Bruce and I probably write the
same story given that we covered the team back when Sean was here and Lute
was here. Uh so let's I'm gonna throw. No. No, I'm
not gonna throw any teams that you I don't want to buy a shoe.
Arizona's most hated teams outside the conference. No, no, altogether, altogether.
Give me the top four. I think you start with EU c l
A Okay, and I don't there's no right or wrong answer, right.
I think you start with U C l A. I think Oregon has become
one of those I don't think it's a SU because they beat as like a
drum and so that people don't even think about them. And then I think
you go to a team like Duke and then probably Wisconsin Oregon. You know
that's a that's a I would never never I think. I think. I
think. I think Arizona fan hates that Oregon has gotten all this notoriety like
they're really good, they did get to a Final four, and that they
feel like it's all because they got all this money from UH from UH Nike,
right, and so they kind of feel like they haven't earned it and
they just want to kick their asses all the time. See I don't I
don't see that. But that's fine, that's your missed. So you mentioned
Duke. I think maybe it's gonna be Duke Bruce, and we were kind
of just astually. Duke, you said, who's your third one? I
had you c l you see number one? You selling number one? That's
without question, Duke, maybe too. The fourth one was who fourth?
Oh? You know not? Well, okay, if you can say Illinois,
that doesn't I was gonna say youn LB back in the day, but
back in our day, yes, in fact, that might have been number
one or two or you know they were right up there with U c l
A back in the Lady and going to and and you know U n l
V, you know, eliminated one of the all time favorite teams. H
No, okay, So who's your fourth one? I had? I had
you c l A uh Oregon in Wiscon. Yeah, No, I think
that's the Oregon one. I'll argue with you, but I get it.
Let me move Wisconsin kind of ahead of Oregon because of those two games.
But then you got, you know, in in that first bat you got
you got you know, you got Oregon. You've got uh U n l
V. Only the people like us would know around and the hatred between loot
and and and Tarkanian before that, I got settled. Yeah, no question,
okay. So so I asked, I asked Tommy if he was aware
of the history, and he says, yeah, okay, yeah, but
not really, you know, blah blah blah. And I did mention the
history beyond the short time and and he didn't know the shot time because Arizona
played Wisconsin in two thousand, if you remember, and he got beat.
They got beat number one as a number overall seed in that great Wisconsin was
an eights right, and they went to the final four eventually, but Tony
Bennett was the coach, the dad of Bennett, and so people forget about
that. That was twenty three years ago, and that kind of started because
it was a It was a heck of a game in the fifties slowed Arizona
down. Lorden Woods got had been hurt in her with his back issues,
so no one and he didn't he didn't remember that because he didn't know that,
but obviously the Shawn time it was very well documated staying yeah, because
you know, I mean, and you know, think of where Arizona might
be still to be the coach, right had he got into one of those
final four, either one of those or the one when they beat Duke in
twenty eleven. Well, yeah, no doubt, but I think and again
it goes back to what I said yesterday. I just you know, Arizona
fan has got to realize that this is going to make him feel better about
those two lots if they be Wisconsin down here. Yeah, no question,
I want to probably write that story. I probably have to mention that just
to give him some context. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Can I throw
something out you guys real quick? What did you know the all time record
between the Badgers and the wildcout I think Wisconsin has them, they do,
but what's the record? It's not big five to five to four something that
it couldn't be that many five and two, five and two and two and
their four and one since two thousand. Yeah, no, there was a
Wisconsin Zona because of the style of play, style of play, and again,
Arizona doesn't play well as an underdog, you know, as a favorite.
And Wisconsin. I think that in fourteen fourteen, Arizona had to be
a favorite. In fifteen they was probably even, yeah, because there was
almost a one or two on and but the Wisconsin games are not are not
are not to upsets because Wisconsin was fantastic, were really good. Well,
they're the ones that beat that undefeated team in the final four, right right,
yeah, Sam Decker, and I knew I had the Sam half of
that. I remember in the in the first the first time they played Wisconsin
was Sam Decker who killed them. No, no, he was the second
one and the second one, second one, Cominskin the first one. Okay,
I remember those two guys in those two games, no question. In
fact, when when in Sean's departure, call him, I mentioned those two
games and Sam was Sam was going off and crazy and he was throwing behind
uside down and made his faces and he looked at Sam like, what can
we do? We can't we can't stop him, we can't do anything about
it. And I mentioned that face how he looked like, you know,
my dog had just died. Yeah, and a lot of fans dogs that
it was upset. Well, if you remember after he lost that game,
I think he was that game or that that that weekend, he came back
and he says, if you don't like what we're doing, becoming issue fans?
It was he went on Twitter and he was best and he says,
if you guys, because he felt that he don't remember that he felt that
heat, if you guys don't like what we're doing, you guys don't have
to be fans. Oh I do, I do remember that, And yes,
never mind, I do, I do remember, because you rarely be
an how we're going about things, that's right. But because he'd been to
three Elite eights and what five years right then, he just couldn't get over
that. Over the ye. So Wisconsin comes to town and they're pretty good.
They're pretty good, well we you know, looking up their schedule.
I mean, I think I think people start, what do you tell me?
Had said you had just said you saw on Twitter obviously that this is
the best team that Oh yeah, Tommy said this is the best team they
faced this year, which I think there was a there was some stuff in
the face of of Duke of Michigan State. But then you look at it
and and well Wisconsin got off to a one and two start. They played,
uh, they lost to Tennessee and they lost to Providence, and probably
the Tennessee game. Okay, Tennessee is ranked ninth, but then you lose
a Providence and they're one and two and you're kind of like, okay,
they're not going to be that good. Well, they reeled off five straight
wins since then, including number twenty four Virginia, Number nine Marquette on Saturday.
I mean, number two Marquette on Saturday. Who was you know,
just they're the ones that had beaten Purdue and they're the reason why Arizona was
number one, right, and then they knocked off the Big Ten. Started
their conference season night before last, and they be in Michigan State at Michigan
State. So they're coming in, you know, on a stretch of five
wins in a row, and the last two were pretty impressive. Sure,
the one thing that Arizona has it's here. It's said to be a sold
out, sold out game, but aren't. Most of my almost were.
I guess they're not because of the there's tickets available. Maybe because well it's
probably you're you're you're right, and there's tickets available, there's next spectation like
last the last game, the game on Saturday. They they reported that the
attendance of the salad there were some empty seats and there were a bunch of
them, a bunch particularly up in the upper deck and in the zone a
zoo. So should be a good game. It should be fun. I
think, I you know, I think the Arizona fans will come. We'll
make it get that sort of buzz feeling that we talked about the one fifteen
games with the middle of the afternoon. It's on esp IN and and I
think it's gonna be uh, you know something where you know the fans will
be a little more into this. Yes, and you'd like to think that
the students will will fill up their their piece of it. It's their last
game before they go to before they go to break, and their tickets start
getting sold to the general club. Right, Okay, so that'll be fun.
We got the jet thing covered. That's gonna happen. What's it a
sixth at twenty one days Harbor Day? Yeah, okay, So the game
is about is a football game on a Friday or Saturday twenty eighth. The
twenty eighth is a Friday night. When a Thursday nights a week from three
weeks from tuesday is the twenty six you're right, you're right, Yeah,
three weeks from tonight, So three weeks from today, you know there's gonna
be you know, there's gonna be there. We're gonna get to some build
up of that. You know, they're still holding there all all the you
know, we just announced our matchup press conferences and that's what the thing was.
Which Jet had a coat and tie on because it was it was streamline,
Okay, it was on it was on YouTube. Yeah, well it's
I don't know if I've ever seen him in the day he got hired.
I don't even remember that. I don't remember that it was a It was
a Zoom press conference. You had come on Zoom was part of my pajamas,
and you know, I was working a basketball game and it must have
been a men's game. But I'm sitting there with my iPad on trying to
trying to hear it while also trying to do stats in the game. I'm
like, I wanted to find out who the hell was this guy that they
hired that none of us had ever heard. Well, this guy that has
broughttom to this. Yeah, to the point where right now again, you
know, again having fun talking about you know, the number one basketball team
in the country, you know, you know, one of the top Bowl
games outside of the New York Good to be at. It's fun to be
able to talk about this right now. Yeah, no question. You have
a game tonight. To you have a game, you're going home. I
had some business to have been for a while, I had, so I
did. I didn't. I didn't wear my Arizona gear to my meeting this
morning, but I do have a quarter zip in the card. I'll have
some rat on tonight at the game. But it's an Arizona women taking on
UC San Diego. But they're also they're also gearing up for they've got a
game next week. They've got Texas coming down. Oh yeah, so they
just picked the crap out of Long Beach State. I didn't realize they were
pretty good. Yeah, Texas been pretty good. Number five. Yeah,
so they got Texas coming in on Wednesday. So on Tuesday, we're gonna
have my Enaji on the show. Yeah, you've already scheduled her, so
to talk about that game coming up. It's a Wednesday night game at seven
o'clock A McHale. That should be a good one. And today before we
forget, we have Doug Faff coming in about five minutes talking about the nineteen
eighty nine game Oklahoma, what he remembers. Obviously he was one of the
stars back then, stars on a six point game. And then we're gonna
get a hold of, hopefully today, Glenn Parker after missing him yesterday.
So we'll have a lot of Oklahoma stuff reminiscing going back before. Before we
leave this, Texas is tenant. Oh yeah, no, they're running number
five. You remember just three four years ago Arizona went to Texas and one
and then you got to realize, oh, these guys can be really good.
I think. Wasn't that the final four year Yeah? I think so,
I think so so yeah, yeah, no, Look how the fortunes
are turned. Man. They they be long beach stayed by forty four.
Yeah, and I know that coach bon Messini was out there because there was
a they beat They beat Yukon. Oh yeah, yeah, the Yukon is
not the same team that used to be. They beat as U by forty
two. You contact some injury troubles the last couple of years that one guard
able to get record on the court. At the same time, I don't
think, yeah, all right, Uh okay, We're gonna uh try and
get ahold of Glenn Parker. Hopefully he's ready for us. Well, excuse
me, Doug Faff, I was looking at yesterday's schedule. Doug Faff coming
up and we'll reminisce about that Oklahoma game where he hit the game winner.
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ball on Tucson's sports stage Chat Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back
to iyin the Ball Here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Barbera.
He's jacin Zawaz. Now on the phone, we have Doug Fat, one
of the many heroes of p nineteen eighty nine, a win over Oklahoma.
Doug, how are you? I'm doing great. Steve and Jay, how
you guys doing. We're doing fine, doing fine. Thirty five years ago?
How many in the in the thirty five years, how many times have
you seen the highlight of your kick? You know, I think I've seen
it more in the last seventy two hours than I've seen in the previous thirty
five years, to be honest with yet. So I'm pretty happy that he
still basically Arizona and Oklahoma playing in the Alamo Bowl, because the video has
resurfaced and it's been a long time since I've seen it. Did you did
you ever go up to Bruce Larson and say, what the hell are you
saying? Missed it? You know, because you had it? And he
even waited a little bit, and then he goes, missed it? Well,
Jay, I was brought up to respect your elders, so Bruce is
a legend. I didn't want to say anything, but yeah, it is
kind of you know. I tend to kind of put it on mute so
that way it doesn't come across well. To his credit, glug, God
bless him, he's now pasted. It barely cleared, right, It barely
cleared, it did. And what I didn't know at the time, guys,
was I had a groin injury. The entire senior season, and as
the game wore on, I was lose more and more strength in my leg
because it just wasn't healthy. And then you're you're kicking into the net to
get warmed up. And I didn't realize that. You know. Luckily that
was like the third or fourth game of the season, and so you know,
if it's you're right, if it would have been forty seven yards,
I don't think I would have had it. Well, well, I will
say, and with all due respect, you know, because I was you
know, I was on the sideline, you know, watching the kick,
and when you hit it, it was leaking oil pretty quickly, but it
did. It looked good to me when you hit you know, when you
went it, just I knew it was going to be close. Yeah,
well I didn't know that. You know, in pregame I could kick from
fifty five easy, but I didn't realize three and a half four hours later,
right, you know, that was about my my bax. So thankfully
the offense got it to be only a forty yard field goal, because yeah,
if it was a forty six or forty seven, I think we'd have
a different outcome, right, Yeah, no, And those are the good
old days. Man, we both over you. I covered you for the
Citizen and Jay for the Star. What do you what was the after effects?
A great celebration outside of Dick Toomy trying to get you guys off the
field so you wouldn't get a penalty. But how was life for you after?
It was awesome the first time to experience, obviously, the the stadium
being rushed by the entire you know, student body and all the season ticket
holders and everybody attending the game. I remember somebody came from the locker room
to come grab me because I was I was still being carried throughout the field
and coach told me, you know, our locker room for games used to
be underneath the you know, the the what the south side hand. Yeah,
he was trying to address the team and he's like, you know,
where's Doug. Where's Doug? Where's Doug? So I kind of got roped
into the locker room after being on the shield, I guess for ten minutes.
But it was it was a great feeling, great win for the program,
and obviously it was a great win by everybody in our team. I
mean our defense was phenomenal that night, only giving up three points to Oklahoma.
It was the top five team in the country, and obviously our offense
did what we had to do to get us a couple couple of field goals.
You know how going through that game, you know it says the final
was six three, off was three three all the way through. But at
some point in the game you had to start thinking, I'm gonna need I'm
gonna need to kick a game winner, you know, to win this thing.
And you know when did you when did you kind of start to think
that? And then how did you get ready for that? You know,
Jay, honestly, I go into every game thinking that's what's going to have
to happen, just because as a kicker, it's it's so much mental that
everybody that you know plays soccer can kick a ball, but what can you
do to kick a two two uprights with you know, potentially all the pressure
on you. So I got to go into every game thinking that's going to
be the outcome. And so by doing that, when it does happen,
you know, I've practiced it over and over in my mind so many times
that it's all it is to me is just go out there and do the
same kick I do one hundred times every week. So you know, that's
that's how I approached every game. It's funny because I was just going to
ask you and I don't know if you remember your lead or your story chain,
are you remembering very vividly? And it had something to do with that
where it was like all Doug Doug Faff had to do was imagine, imagine,
imagine, imagine that the ball was going to go through that. That's
what you do, you think about the ball going through every time? One
hundred percent. I mean, I mean, if if you look back and
if there were some old photos Mike cow used to have one hundred percent on
it, and that was my mantra. That's what my expectation was, was
that I was going to be one hundred percent every game. And the visualization
was really something that I focused on. And we'd go to the stadium Friday
night before we go to the hotel and in the dark, my snapper,
my holder and myself would go twenty five different places on the field and do
imaginary kicks without a ball. And again it was all the mental preparation.
And in my senior year, I brought my holder and my kicker and my
snapper out there as well, so Ken mcpeters and John Nice, they'd come
out there with me for a half hour before we'd hop on the bus and
go to the hotel. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. That was
the first year that you had to kick without a tea, was it not?
Or is it the year before? No, you're absolutely right. Yeah,
my junior year we had the tea, and then h my senior year
we were they took the tea away made us kick off the ground. So
uh, you know, it just like golf a little easier. It's a
little easier to hit the ball on the tee than off the ground. But
it just took some practice and after a while it was no big, no
big difference. How hard was that adjustment though? The first week, Jay
it was it was it was rough. I remember luck They told us after
my junior season, so we had all spring to practice it. But I
think the first time I went out and practiced it, I would have been
in a full team. I was just I was just kicking with some kickers
and stuff. I think I probably would have hit their backs or their butt
because I'd probably shanked like four out of fifteen that wouldn't have even got past
the line of scrimmage as far as height. So it took about you know,
three or four practice sessions to kind of just again change my muscle memory
on my swing and kicked the ball a little bit lower. And then after
that, I mean, honestly, I don't even think it affected the distance
you know on my kicks going off the ground and the purse off the tea.
I mean, you just get used to it. So Jay and I
talk about this every now, every now and again, especially this week.
You did you win this game coming off a horrible game at Texas Tech.
James Gray made you guys look bad and you're thinking, you go, you're
coming home to Oklahoma. It's his own. No, this is not going
to be good having what we saw at Texas Tech. How was that week?
You know? We we we played Oklahoma the year before in Norman,
and if you remember that game, even though the score said it was twenty
eight ten, personally, I think we we have physical Oklahoma. We were
in the game. We just made a couple you know, poor plays that
were you know, big swings. You know, we threw a pick six
when we had you know, goal to go. So that was a fourteen
point swing. I missed the field goal I should have never missed. So
there's three more points. And so you know, two plays. I mean,
now we're talking. It's a toss up game. And so we we
we had some confidence that it's like, look, you know, we we're
as good as they are. We will beat them, you know. And
so I think maybe the loss of Texas Tech, I think we overlooked them
in all candidness because the year before they lost all their stars Billy, Joe
Tolliver, a couple of receivers that played in the NFL, and I think
we just overlooked them because they weren't supposed to be that good. But we
kind of introduced James Gray to the to the world. I think you ran
for one hundred and eighty against us, but it was too changing. It
was it was too and change. Yeah, I think you still a lot,
you still run, but yeah, yeah, you had a son.
Actually that was a phenomenal running back in college too at UT. But I
think it just woke us up and got us even more focused for the Oklahoma
game. So, you know, by no means did we want to lose
Texas Tech. But you know, maybe there was a silver lining from from
that loss when you went to Oklahoma the year before, because you know,
you know, back in the day Arizona didn't get a chance to play you
know, the Oklahomas in Ohio State's and all those. Was there any sort
of a feeling of a mystique with these guys going to play them the first
time? Uh? You know, you guys were going to their place,
you know, their stadium, their legendary stadium, which was kind of rickety,
you know, Steve and I remember, but you know when the thought
of playing Oklahoma going in then and then you know you had already seen him,
so now you had him here and you felt more confident about it.
But what was it like going into the first game? You know, you're
right they it was Barry Switzers last year that he coasted Oklahoma and they were
still dominant, and you know, I think you had respect for Oklahoma.
I don't think we feared him though, And that's why when we went out
there and played, I mean we actually got the ball the opening drive.
You know, I was forcunate enough to make make that field goal. So
we had a three to nothing lead, and then if you remember Charles Thompson
was was their quarterback. We knocked him out of the game in the first
half, and then I think they brought to Meal Holloway that was kind of
overcoming an injury back in the game, and then they brought Thompson back in
and then we knocked him out again, and you know, he had to
leave via the ambulance. So we knew right then and there that wait a
second, weren't just as good as these guys. They just got, you
know, maybe a better reputation than we do. So you know, yeah,
it was it was. It was. We respected them, but we
didn't fear them. It's funny you bring up those names because about three or
four years later, in ninety three ninety four, I got the book The
Life and Crimes of Oklahoma Football. I think Halloway is one that wrote the
book because he was in trouble with the law. I think, well,
Charles Thompson was the one that was in real big trouble, okay, so
maybe that was who wrote it. It was unbelievable. I mean, today
it's kind of like commonplace, but back then, it was like, holy
crap, these guys are what are they doing? Yeah, and that's the
thing. I mean, they were always they were almost like the Miami Hurricanes
of the late eighties and nineties. Before there was the Miami Hurricanes, and
so I think Miami took it to maybe a new level. But yeah,
they they definitely had some some characters and some stories and and they had a
lot of talent. But but yeah, we just we enjoyed the challenge because,
like you said earlier, we didn't get a chance to play some of
those teams. I mean, that's team in UCLA and Washington were dominant teams,
and so you know, we would play against what we thought were some
of the best teams in the country. But you know, there's always that
West Coast bias I think in the media, so you know, we wouldn't
get you know, I don't think those teams would get the credit that they
probably deserved nationally, like teams like Nebraska or Oklahoma or Michigan Ohio State get
So let me ask you. I think I haven't talked to you in a
little bit, but I think you're in Phoenix now, but you were in
Dallas for a long time, right or is that bro? No, you're
correct, I live in Chandler, right, now for the last six years,
but twenty years prior to that. Our family, I mean we lived
in a suburb of Dallas and pretty much our three kids were all raised out
there in Dallas. Let me go to the question, so you lived,
you lived that type of football obviously in that conference. What what is Arizona
fans or Arizona going to have to deal with in that new conference. Yeah,
I think it's going to change a little bit, just with the defection
of UT and OU going to the SEC. But it's it's different. I
mean tailgating in the West Coast and what the fans do on game day,
I mean just just times that by ten and that gives you a perspective of
what happens on game day. I mean they'll tailgate starting Friday, and you
know those campuses that they allow them to tailgate for thirty six hours. So
the fan base is just rabid fans. They're crazy. It doesn't matter if
your records two and nine or nine and two. They're going to support you
regardless, but they definitely don't keep your around if if your records to and
I you know, so, uh, it'll be fun. It'll be some
new schools. I think you know, for u of a, it'll be
it'll be great for all sports. But you know, I'm I'm a I'm
kind of a history guy. I'm going to miss the pack R and Pac
twelve not being there anymore. You know, I'm not a big fan of
kind of the the team realignment that we're having in college nowadays. I was
going to ask you that, so you've answered that. But you know,
the thing that I've been saying is that you know, with with you know,
USC and Washington and Oregon out of the way and then going to the
Big twelve with no Oklahoma and no Texas, that are's on a sort of
in a position where it can actually possibly compete year in, year out.
Uh, what are your thoughts on that? No, I agree with you.
I think you know, the trajectory that you know, the coach coaching
staff has them on right now is fantastic. I mean, I think dead
Fish and his staff is has exceeded all expectations, at least of mine and
I'm sure almost everybody else. And if they continue, you know, to
keep getting better, there's no reason why they can't step right into the Big
twelve next year and the you know, Big twelve champions in football. I
think they have a great shout to do it obviously in basketball, and then
you know, baseball is going to be fun too because those baseball programs out
there are phenomenal as well. So you know, I'm looking forward to it.
I'm looking forward to going to some universities that maybe I haven't been to.
But yeah, I just you know, nil, that's a whole nother
discussion point too. I mean that could be the wild card every year.
So keeping guys or losing guys. You know, your team can change pretty
quickly. Sorry to tell you, Doug, you were born thirty five years
too early. Yeah, I feel that too, Steve. I think all
the things that we did when I was in college, you know, giving
back to the community, speaking to schools and going to you know, facilities
just to hopefully brighten somebody's day up. You know, we did that just
because we wanted to pour back into the community. Now these now they they
get paid to do that stuff. So uh and they get paid to play
on Saturday. So yeah, you know, I'm not crying over any spilled
milk. I enjoyed my time there, you know, obviously, met my
wife there, you know, so, I mean, the memories are phenomenal
both football wives as well as just academically and personally. Right, right,
right, you're doing well. You're doing well, Doug. I know that.
Okay, thank you, Doug, appreciated, Doug. Thanks guys,
all right, Mary Christmins, Doug fat back in the day. One of
the good guys. Yeah, one of the good guys. He's back here.
His son played. Did you know any play something played for some other
coach. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, something for a little while.
I remember all that. We went through that a little bit last time.
We had. All right, let's take our break. When you come back,
we'd love to get some calls from you. Five to zero four one,
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Steve Barbera here, Jacin Zaws. We got about twelve minutes. If you
guys want to call in, please do five two oh four one six seventy
four forty h Somebody said you didn't want to call in and talk to us
about something about Oklahoma. All right, So that'll happen soon, So keep
an eye on that. I'm just I've just been admiring my writing because I've
got the clip from that game here in front of me. And that doesn't
shock you, don't, not in the slightest bit, not one iota.
It just you know, it's a it's a story that you know you have
to write it. During the game, you got, you cap it off
at the end. I'm shocked that you got out of the business. You
know. I'm kind of getting a little misty right here real thinking about that
night. I just remember it was hot, it was a good game.
You want no fun, think part of the fun thing about this. I
had spent that day Earlier in the day, we went down to the Gallas
and just went to do some shopping and stuff like that. Came back,
there was a time to get to get to the game. It was about
six o'clock, seven o'clock. I didn't feel very good that night. Oh
because you were in no Gallas. Because we've been no Gallas. So maybe
that's what makes the story go. You were kind of yeah inspired sixty three
fifty thousand, nine thirty one. Yeah, it was. It was pretty
big. I remember there's a lot of people there. Yeah, because you're
not going to see Oklahoma, you're not gonna see the clock. Yeah.
They weren't here. They've never been back. Yeah. Yeah, so this
is this is pretty cool, you know, sitting here painting the picture for
the for the reader. Give me some tissue over the CRUs I was just
well, we were saying, I really should have apologized to Doug because he
kicks the game winner. And then Glenn Parker was in my lead. I
was gonna say, you buried the lead. I did it. Did it
took it took It took four paragraphs to get to the fact that Doug was
winning kick to Lenny Field. If I'm a professor, you're getting a C
on that, you know. But Glenn was a great quote and he was
the whole time. Remember the first because we met him the year before and
like who is it? And he remember he looked like a biker, like
a Hell's Angels guy. Then it turns out he was some softy who had
been hanging out on the beach and didn't even want to play for him.
No, so it was him the guys you remember him, John Fina Quotables.
Uh, Singleton's the Singletons, Well, yeah, Singletons. Donny I
think Donny Salem was out there. God because very much, so very much.
That was a scary dude. He's still he's in Poenis. He's a
teacher, big dude, He's not as big as he was. He was
a scary scary dude. Let's take this call. Hi, you're on the
air and I on the ball. How you doing? Jay Good? Who's
that? This is Ricky rick? How were you So you texted me and
you were going to say something. Yeah, that that game, it was
just I remember the game vividly because I shut down our patio furniture store a
couple hours early, and I said, we're going to the football game.
So I called my wife at the time and I said, let's just go
to the game. So we show up and they only have tickets left in
the red section. So we get into the red section and all of a
sudden, I'm looking around and we're in the middle of Oklahoma fans. Okay,
that's the first So we're about twenty rows up and the row immediately in
front and two seats over is Berry Switzer. Yep, he was at the
game, and oh yeah, he was at the game. And of course
Barbara looks around. She says, I want one of those diamond rings.
I mean, I felt like we were a diamond mine with all the golden
I means these ladies were wearing. But of course the game was a heck
of a game. I think it was like six nothing, not six to
three, and but very swifter. And during the game, you know,
we chat a little bit, nothing, nothing important. But after the game
and after that field goal, he turned around stuck his hand out. Great
football, come back to Oklahoma. His Barber's sister lives in Moore, Oklahoma,
which is right around the corner of university there. And but the fans
that was a first class, very swift, was just first class gentlemen.
And the fans were cool, and we all, you know, at it
up a little bit, and of course I had to behave myself a little
bit more than usual. But it was what a football game, and it
just it was just amazing to just sit there mark all these Oklahoma fans and
we lived to tell about it. Yeah, yeah, no, that's one
of the games you'll remember yeah, oh yeah, yeah, ok thanks Rick.
All right, gentlemen, a good day, Thank you, thanks for
the call. You know, it is one of the ones that sticks out
for me, I know for you. I mean, you've governed you,
you covered basketball for so long. I'll give you another one. I'll give
you another one because you were there too that game, the Oregon game when
Musgrave got stuck at the one half yard line by Daryl Lewis. I was
okay, so that happened right in front of me. Yeah, that gave
me chills because I was right there on the corner. That game, the
Syracuse when Syracuse beat the crap out of Arizona and Hawaii. Yeah. Well
yeah, we've talked about. You see the U c l A game sticks
out to me over there, No, the one here where Eldred David al
Oh yeah yeah, what about the USC game over there? There was only
one I Will Colliseum that was covered nineteen ninety. That eighty nine was my
last Okay, okay, okay. I got to see Arizona get the cap
kicked out of it firsthand by Rodney p Oh. Yeah, you know,
and then Aman came here. Aman came here and beat the crap out of
them once but you know it was again. You know certain things that stick
out, and from a football standpoint, this was. This was a huge
upset. Take this call another one hired on the air and I on the
ball. How's it going today? What's not much? Hey? I just
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Thank you? Are we Facebook friends? I'm just curious. No, I
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did that today. I posted something. If you haven't picked up the book,
this would be a great easy I get. It's a fabulous book.
Really, I mean, if you're a CRU Arizona fan, or even if
you just want to know about the lude Olsen times and what kind of a
person he was and a coach she was, it's a great book to read.
And it's it's it's not like it's a real difficult to read it or
it drags. It does not drag that you know, each chapter is is
different the whole time. Yeah, no, thank you very much. I'm
glad you read it. It's an easy read too, I take you about
well, Yes, put in the put in the restroom, put in the
bathroom in a chapter at a time. Yeah, yeah, it's easy.
Yeah, and and there's stuff you know, you know, for Jade that
would be like one day in the bathroom pretty much. But thank you for
the for thedorsement. Yeah, it probably took you not too long. And
then every story is different because everybody has a different feel of right, you
know. And it just wasn't about basketball. It was it was nice to
see about him as a person, right right as you got older, as
you got older, as we all know, uh, he became close friends
with all the players, because you can't. You can't be a player a
friend of the players when you're the coach. No, no, unfortunately,
fortunately you can't. But uh, it's just nice to see the respect shown
by the players him, you know, years after the after they left,
and basically the lessons of life that they learned from him. Right, let
me ask you just are curiousity, I know, we have four minutes.
What was the most rememberable chapter? I like the Steve Kerwin mm hmm.
And I mean it was just so many, It's so many of them that
were really good. Did I like the one where I came in and named
the other coach, oh Montgomery. Yes, that was that was that was
terrific because you know they were you know, they were rivals in the conference.
You know, when he was the Stanford for a long time, you
know, it wasn't quite the same when he went to Hell. Yeah,
yeah, real question. You know, do you remember the the Todd Walsh
one. He was the last one in the book. Yes, he had
no money, He had zero money, and he went to he went to
go become a manager. He had to sit in line and blah blah blah.
And and now he turned into this guy, uh you know, this
broadcaster, and he thanks everything to you who brought him in, brought you
know, you know, people don't realize that, you know, Todd waltsh
is back here on Channel thirteen. I think it was, yeah, you
know, back in the eighties, right, and and he was really good.
And you know I see him all the time. We go to Phoenix
a lot, and I see him up, I see him on you know,
you hear the still on the radio, see him on TV. He's
great, right right, yeah, but you know he you know, he
was and he had a lot of great things, and everybody had great things
to say about him. Yeah, right, No, he's a good dude.
He's good dude. Thank you for you know, if if someone if
you want something good, it's not an expensive gift and it's something that d
be very enjoyable, like you, just pass it through the family, right
right, No, thank you. They can reach me too, just reach
me on Facebook or email me and that'd be great. Thanks for the call.
I appreciate it. Okay, thanks man, Bryan. So let me
if I could show a quick story. I think I may have said it
already with Todd Walsh his story. So he gets let go by. Remember
he had a controversy with the Phoenix Cardinals. He's bad mouth Midwell. So
he lost his job and he needed to get another job. And he's had
this name and he comes to Lou and says, can you can you help
me find a job? Yeah again, I'm gonna put you as a reference.
So he applied for Fox or I can't remember what it was, just
whatever. So he applied for this job and he went for an interview and
the guy who interviewed said, could you tell this guy lude Olsen to stop
calling me? I think you're doing pretty good. But he calls me all
the time, don't you that's too funny. But you know Todd was that
you know, Todd was such a likable guy. Yeah, right, you
wanted you know, I could see how Lot would have just wanted, you
know, give him a hand. Right. Luke got pissed at him for
leaving, for leaving the program because he went he went to a PENI right,
he says, why did you leave? He says, well, I
had to go, you know, I had to spread my wings. Yeah,
exactly, I should get to back on. Yeah, he was good.
Well there's it's the fox thing is gone and Batlets is gone. Yeah,
you know what you wonder what all those guys are going to do,
you know? And then they got all the Bret Hanson is no longer there,
yeah, because of belly right, right, because too bad? All
right? Well, uh that's a god. That was a quick first hour
again, a lot of cool stuff, right, But we'll have Lynn Parker
coming up at about four twenty Surprising break News coming back with some breaking news
with surprising local breaking news. Yep, yep, it's very surprising local breaking
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