1 00:00:17,879 --> 00:00:21,239 We're back with another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Dashinsky, 2 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,079 culture editor here at the Federalist. As always, you can email the show 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,640 at radio at the Federalist dot com, follow us on exit fdr LST, 4 00:00:27,839 --> 00:00:30,800 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcasts, and of course to the 5 00:00:30,839 --> 00:00:34,840 premium version of our website, The Federalist dot Com as well. I'm joined 6 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,479 today by Christopher Bedford, who's got some cool stuff in the works. Maybe 7 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,840 we can talk about it next week, but for now, we have a 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,079 big show because actually, sort of Chris, we end up talking a lot 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,880 about Capitol Hill drama. And I think it's because by the end of the 10 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,520 week there's so much Capitol Hill drama to review, and especially the drama between 11 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,000 sort of leadership, whether it's leadership on the Senate side or leadership on the 12 00:00:57,039 --> 00:01:00,679 House side. Everyone knows what happened with Kevin McCarthy over the last year. 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:06,480 It hearkens back to what happened to both John Bayner and Paul Ryan, and 14 00:01:06,879 --> 00:01:10,959 really all of this is coming to a head as we sit here on Capitol 15 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,959 Hill right now, even more so than I would argue it did with Kevin 16 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:21,400 McCarthy. Now that Mike Johnson is doing all kinds of tactical parliamentary maneuvers, 17 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,640 these sorts of things, we have a lot to talk about, basically, 18 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:27,560 So thanks Chris for being here. And I'm all, we're about to roast 19 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,480 me. Well, I know you told me you were about to roast me, 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,239 so yeah, before we get down to business, we have some business 21 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:40,719 to attend. Yes, tell me about that electric bicycle parked at the bottom 22 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,159 of the stairs. I think it looks like it comes from our EI. 23 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:48,719 It's Maria. That's right. Well, I think a lot of listeners would 24 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:55,680 be surprised to hear that both Chris and I are somewhat into Cycling's I'm newer 25 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,239 to it than you are. You've been doing for years. But I live 26 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,760 really close to a great bike trail, so why not take advantage of it? 27 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,719 And yeah, I got it. I got recently a great deal forty 28 00:02:05,719 --> 00:02:08,479 percent off on an e bike from RII, and what I like about it 29 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,479 is that it has five levels of the e bike part, so you can 30 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,719 go, this is your electric scooter. I've had a lot of electric scooters. 31 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:22,680 I've had many many medicare right off on this. Yeah, This is 32 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:28,280 my HSA exactly a shopping cart attachment for when you're at the store. It 33 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:31,360 does not the DC government. Funny enough, actually I forgot about this actually 34 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:37,840 has a credit if you buy e bikes you can get like six hundred bucks. 35 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,360 Why not if you buy a normal bike for like green energy? I 36 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,879 don't know. You're right, it should also be for that too, don't. 37 00:02:46,039 --> 00:02:49,520 Don't people understand where electric power comes from? It doesn't. It's not 38 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,560 like harness lightning. No. One of my favorite fossil fields, one of 39 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,039 my favorite posts from one of my favorite congressmen. Actually, Thomas Massey is 40 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:00,000 him. He drives back and forth, or some people might not know this, 41 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:05,280 but he drives back and forth from DC and Kentucky in a Tesla and 42 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,599 he's basically a genius and he built his own electric engineer. Yeah crazy, 43 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:12,879 He's like one of the only people that's ever been able to I think he 44 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,000 like reverse engineered the Tesla whatever. I'm not going to get into something, 45 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:21,199 sound like an idiot if I do. But he drives back and forth, 46 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:28,039 and he took a picture of himself charging his tesla like halfway along the route, 47 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,560 and he was like feeling up on some Kentucky coal because that's where they 48 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:36,800 don't think about it. They don't understand where the electric comes from. And 49 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,560 it's like, look, it's renewable. What are you talking about. It's 50 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:44,599 beautiful. I don't know. It was like this is probably gonna offend some 51 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:53,240 people, but it went viral last week. The the Orthodox Jewish lamp that 52 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,400 doesn't break Sabbath rules. I didn't see this. You're not allowed to turn 53 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,240 on a switch because in that's doing work. Oh right, okay, but 54 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,680 this light's always on. You just turn you just turn a shade to make 55 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,199 it so it's visible, or turn it off. And it's like being sold 56 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:15,439 now. And I saw this electrician explaining. He's like, listen, electricity 57 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:19,800 lights are always on. The electricity is always flowing. The switch is just 58 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,480 whether or not. There's always going through your house. Like you turn off 59 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,519 every light in your house, Electricity is always moving through. That's why. 60 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,480 That's why if you want to be like the real hardcore dad who wants to 61 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,639 crack down and the electric us, you have to unplug all the plugs, 62 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,439 even if the thing that's plugged into is off because it's going. And he's 63 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,439 like, listen, this this lamp that says the light's always on. The 64 00:04:40,519 --> 00:04:43,600 light kind of already is always on. It's just you turn this, so 65 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:46,399 you switch this. It's it's the same thing. It's still flowing. Yeah, 66 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:53,240 yeah, thanks for that lesson. I guess stupid things about electricity every 67 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:57,720 day. Well, yes, there's no question the entire green energy movement is 68 00:04:57,879 --> 00:05:05,600 predicated on the this intense push for lithium ion batteries and like electric like is 69 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:09,959 the same thing with U one of it? I don't. It's again gonna 70 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,439 make me send dumb. But one of the funny things I realized recently is 71 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:18,000 that Joe Biden is on the one hand shifting towards an industrial policy for chips 72 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:24,879 manufacturing, and then on the other he has this like major green energy push 73 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:31,959 and the semiconductors like fuel massive uses of energy, and its just like is 74 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:40,839 the stupidest, stupidest possible contradiction. Like they're taking money, they're taking money, 75 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:46,680 they're they're getting they're they're incentivizing layoffs in Detroit, they're also doing this. 76 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,959 It's just idiotic. All things is a scam. And I always kinda 77 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,120 I kind of envy it because when you see Republican corruption it's always like really 78 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:58,000 dumb things. It's like menento style stuff like gold bars, good stuff, 79 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:03,240 but uh, old school corruption, whereas like the smart leftists are making billions 80 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,959 on these green energy scams. Yeah, and it does take us. So 81 00:06:08,959 --> 00:06:11,680 what do you an electric? Why not just be a regular? I think 82 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:15,839 it's like, you know, listen, there's all these degrees of jerk when 83 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,439 it comes to bicyclinge yep, Like if you don't have a fixed gear with 84 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,079 no kickstand, you're not a real bicycle. I know, I know, 85 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:26,439 but uh why electric? So that's what grinds my gears. You don't live 86 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:29,199 in the city anymore, but I still do, but I did for twenty 87 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,079 years, right, But I just think it's also a nice option to have 88 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,879 when you're going somewhere where, So like, for example, on Capitol Hill, 89 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,839 parking is a disaster, especially if you have last week, for example, 90 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,439 I had a meeting in one of the Senate buildings and you could not 91 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,920 park anywhere near a Senate building and it was you know, I had to 92 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:48,199 get there quickly. So it just I live on Capitol Hills. Time is 93 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,560 usually a struggle. Well. But also as a woman, you don't want 94 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,199 to like I know, you know, but your if you sweat a lot, 95 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,959 like your hair and makeup gets messed up. And it's not like a 96 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,839 really do much with her. It's a different thing. So anyway, I 97 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,439 don't know why you felt the need to roast me for this, but we 98 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,480 also wanted to give a shout out to Bill McMorris previous Federalist radio guests for 99 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,959 what his fifth baby, six sixth baby coming right now, I mean not 100 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,439 here quite yet, coming right now. And uh we just hope that his 101 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:29,519 wife Teresa supports him in this difficult time. It's been hard for Bill. 102 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:32,240 Yeah, well, God blessed Bill McMorris family. When you're a guy in 103 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:38,439 the hospital, there's not like bed, it's like a plastic chair. You 104 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:41,519 don't get any of the drugs. It's hard. Drugs are all to the 105 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,040 women. Like if you try to order a fruit service, they're like, 106 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,199 that's not for you. My brother actually did that. Like they rolled in 107 00:07:48,199 --> 00:07:50,920 with because COVID he wasn't allowed to leave the hotel room. They're rolled in 108 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:55,279 with like two piezas and three buffalo wings. It's like she can't eat. 109 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,399 He's like, just leave it here. But uh yeah, I mean when 110 00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:00,959 a guy is in the hospital, was why deliver and he's got to go 111 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,800 down like two or three floors and like a crossing of the building to find 112 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:07,040 a venue machine. It's tough. You can't bring your PS five. Yeah, 113 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,879 you cannot do that now. Terry said he was going to bring it 114 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,439 to the hospital for Bailey, bring one, Terry Shilling, Yeah, Lisbeth's 115 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:18,800 product guest. Yes, Well, you know, we were just we were 116 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,040 just talking about Thomas Massey, and I actually think Thomas Massey has taken a 117 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:28,160 stand this week that's been I really hesitate to use the word courageous about members 118 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:33,799 of Congress, and maybe courageous isn't the right word, Probably principled, because 119 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,120 it's not courageous to do exactly what your voters want you to do. And 120 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,759 that's what Thomas Massey is doing. That's what Mike Johnson is not doing. 121 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,320 Chris. So, by the time this airs in a couple of hours, 122 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,759 we usually try to get these Thursday podcasts up right after we tape them because 123 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:52,600 we're talking about, for the most part, developments that are ongoing on Capitol 124 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,320 Hill. But by the time this airs, things could have changed. As 125 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,519 of right now, Mike Johnson is orchestrating one of the I'm just gonna say 126 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:09,600 weird. I mean, one of the weirdest attempts at placating the Republican base 127 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:15,600 that I've seen from Republican leadership in a long time. What about you you 128 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,320 mean with this vote? Yes, the rules package. So let's break this 129 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,200 down a little bit. He's he wants to do four bills because everyone wants 130 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,879 to pass kind of five five bills. Well, there's four with the MERV 131 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,799 m hmm, right, okay, multi re entry vehicle or something. Yeah, 132 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,360 there's there's a whole package. I thought four were going through the rules 133 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:41,240 at once, and then there was one going through on a separate rule. 134 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:46,679 Yeah, okay, perfect. So what we mean by that is is actually 135 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:50,519 kind of newsworthy in and of itself. Do you have the thread from the 136 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:56,039 Georgetown professor pulled up? And now? Yeah, basically I'll pull up I 137 00:09:56,039 --> 00:10:01,200 can kind of explain that he has. So since he came into office at 138 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:07,240 the end of October, he has been promising that there's not going to be 139 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,399 any movement on all these foreign aid packages that the Uniparty, the war Parties, 140 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:18,200 the Democrats, Republicans, the White House want until they secure America's border, 141 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:22,360 which is something they don't want to do. And he's stuck fast on 142 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:24,960 that for months and months, and we have it out of his own month 143 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,600 mouth, and eventually apparently it's got worn down. I feel like Republicans kind 144 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,039 of treat negotiations like they're holding their breath will Democrats just stare at them, 145 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,159 and after like a couple of months, Republicans just pass out blue in the 146 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:41,720 face with the Democrats, just like Tibit to Martini, that was a hard 147 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:48,360 negotiation. So he took the only leverage the Republicans have had over the last 148 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:52,440 couple of months to get anything done on the border has been to say, 149 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,240 you don't get to send money to your friends abroad and your wars abroad, 150 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,559 even if they really are friends. You don't get to send any money to 151 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,960 security brought into you solve security problems in this country. 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Republicans think there 177 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,519 aren't enough sort of safeguards and how the bill is written to prevent there's no 178 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,759 safeguard in DC. That could be moss where you send money to come most 179 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:13,679 controlled territory and say, by don't you that not a new problem problem. 180 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:18,600 He lived all these things together. Plus he threw in the TikTok legislation, 181 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,080 which I'm kind of excited about. He threw in some legislation about seizing assets 182 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,399 from the Russian bank Central Bank, which I think is kind of stupid and 183 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,639 dangerous when the dollar is faltering this much, so they could pay for the 184 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:37,159 war in Ukraine. I think JD Vance was Jdvances like basic kind of come 185 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:41,039 out against that, and we're kind of threatening the dollar here every time we 186 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:43,720 use our might as the dollar to seize other countries who don't like assets that, 187 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:48,720 why would they want to trade with us anymore? We use our currency 188 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,600 J jd Vance. Yes, he's bought and sold, bought and paid for 189 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:56,679 by Lemon Putin. Of course. You know what's funny is because they're bringing 190 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,759 that back out with MASSI. I don't know if you've seen this. It 191 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:03,279 is disgusting. That's so gross. I mean, Jadie Vince actually has a 192 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:07,440 very big Ukrainian constituency in state. He's not he's far from behind and paid 193 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,840 for by the Russians. But he's putting all those things together and then he 194 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,919 says, oh yeah, by the way, it's like a little head pat 195 00:14:13,919 --> 00:14:20,559 we're going to do a separate immigration bill which won't go anywhere. It's a 196 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,720 complete and total betrayal. It's like he couldn't hold his breath as long as 197 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:28,279 someone who wasn't even trying to hold their breath. I don't understand it. 198 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,879 The America security is obviously dead last all these other things. I mean, 199 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:33,440 I'm not going to argue with some of these guys, even though I do 200 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:37,279 disagree on some of it, that there are security issues abroad that need America's 201 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,320 care, but the number one issue is right here at home, and they 202 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:46,639 refuse to do it because of part of some politics and Republican weakness. I 203 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,799 find Johnson's decision making pattern utterly bizarre over the last couple of sks, cowardly 204 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:54,919 a weakness. You know, it made sense for a while because he has 205 00:14:54,919 --> 00:15:00,440 a very slim margin. It's getting slimmer amid because it's only time talk about 206 00:15:00,919 --> 00:15:07,240 George. It's so, But neither of us would disagree that he's in a 207 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,639 precarious position that is going to at some point if you want to pass bills, 208 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:20,679 demand necessarily some negotiation with Democrats. Now that isn't to say he needs 209 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:26,080 to capitulate entirely to Democrats. The fact that we're having this conversation right now, 210 00:15:26,799 --> 00:15:31,559 it's happened because he's sort of been doing these like minibuses and then like 211 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:35,919 FISA, for example, got last week he flip flopped on FISA after going 212 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:41,639 into the skiff the sea, the skiff that that that that that place for 213 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:45,480 you go to talk to your intelligence handlers, where they tell you information that 214 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:48,440 you can't repeat to anyone and you're not allowed to really or incapable of verifying. 215 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:52,519 He just always goes it always goes one way. It's never like Americans 216 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:56,360 will die if we don't secure this border. It's always like Americans will die 217 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,639 if we don't send tanks to Ukraine. Yeah, always that Well, he 218 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:02,879 invoked nine to eleven. He said he went into the skiff and came out 219 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:06,919 with a different perspective on Fiza because he doesn't want another nine eleven to He's 220 00:16:06,919 --> 00:16:10,960 scared, which is sat I mean you could write that as satire. It's 221 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,480 we are I changed my mind on the Fourth Amendment because I went into the 222 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:21,559 intelligence briefing and came out worried about I mean, it's just the idea that 223 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:27,039 we can't prevent nine to eleven without seven O two is outrageous. There's so 224 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,720 many intelligence failures leading up to nine to eleven that had nothing to do with 225 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:33,480 violating our Fourth Amendment rights. Tucker had a great line last week about it, 226 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:37,720 where you said, every person who spent any time in DC, notice 227 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,360 the classified intel briefing in the skiff is merely a leash to call around your 228 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:44,360 neck, attached to a chain, and the other end is your handler tonan 229 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:47,519 of you telling you that if you don't go along with the program, Americans 230 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:52,799 will die. Yeah, well so. And Johnson's decision making pattern I honestly 231 00:16:52,919 --> 00:16:57,240 understood up until this last couple of weeks because I you know, I didn't 232 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,720 agree with it, but I saw it he was trying to do, which 233 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:03,480 was to walk a balance beam. Essentially. The last time he came out 234 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,240 hard was February twenty eighth, was the last time he said no, right 235 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,440 right on Ukraine? You're talking about ye on Ukraine? Yes, because it 236 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:12,720 was always about the border, of the border, of the border. The 237 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,559 House Republicans have passed a good bill, HR two, which had serious reforms 238 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:22,759 to the asylum process, not the dumb Langford you know, superficial non reforms 239 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:26,680 that are dressed up as reforms that aren't actually reforms that in fact make the 240 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,799 situation worse. This HR two is a decent bill. So saying, you 241 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:33,839 know, Democrats have to come to the table on HR two or we're not 242 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:38,759 passing more aid to Ukraine. Mike Johnson insisted on that, and suddenly he 243 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,200 just completely dropped that. Not suddenly, I guess it's been over the last 244 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,400 couple of months, but he suddenly flipped on FISA. And what I really 245 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,960 don't get, Chris, is how he's tonally been handling this. He's asked 246 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,160 by a reporter on the Hill this week, you know, if he's going 247 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,440 to resign. That's what Thomas Massey suggested. He said, resign like Bayner 248 00:17:57,759 --> 00:18:02,160 so that we have the ability to sort of find a consensus for a new 249 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,759 leader. That's Massey said. He was joining Marjorie Taylor Green's motion to vacate 250 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,200 this week. They still have to privilege that to demand a vote on it. 251 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,160 That's a parliamentary way that it works. But he joined it, and 252 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,359 he suggested that Johnson resigns. So Johnson gets asked about it, he says, 253 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,960 I'm not resigning and basically rails against conservatives and says that's not productive. 254 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,240 Blah blah blah. He stopped talking like he was one of them for a 255 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:30,640 while. He was talking like he was one of them. And this is 256 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,039 one of the things, by the way, that Kevin McCarthy understood for all 257 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:38,960 of the policy and substance flaws of Kevin McCarthy Stylistically, he understood that he 258 00:18:40,039 --> 00:18:45,319 needed to talk in solidarity with the rest of his conference and say the border 259 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:48,440 is out of control. We understand the border is out of control. Democrats 260 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,960 aren't coming to the table on HR two. They won't do it. You 261 00:18:52,119 --> 00:19:00,400 have to even play hardball rhetorically, and he's not even doing that. Is 262 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:06,359 Molly Hemingway of the Federalist Join me my husband, Mark of Real Clear Investigations, 263 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:11,519 twelve time All American Swimmer, Riley Gaines, Aaron Wren of The American 264 00:19:11,559 --> 00:19:15,920 Conservative, and others for the twenty twenty four Making the Case Conference Friday July 265 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:22,640 twelfth and Saturday July thirteenth at Concordia University, Chicago. Learn more at Issues 266 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:29,039 Etc. Dot org. Making the Case July twelfth and thirteenth in Chicago, 267 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:37,480 Issues Etc. Dot org. You know, according to Congressman Bishop, he's 268 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,880 right now planning to work with Democrats to kill the motion of AKA Earl. 269 00:19:44,039 --> 00:19:48,000 Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the I mean that is that's not stebbing 270 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:51,519 on. You're not stabbying them in the back. You're stebbing them right between 271 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:53,279 the eyeballs. That's what that is. I mean. So the motion of 272 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:59,119 ak was one of the things everyone sort of the Freedom Caucus demanded it of 273 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,200 Kevin McCarthy rules package that after vote nineteen whatever allowed him to come into office. 274 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:07,920 And it's always how things were until Nancy Pelosi saw what happened to John 275 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:14,000 Bayner by Mark Mendelson, Jim Jordan, and Nancy Pelosi got rid of it 276 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:18,759 because Nancy Pelosi it was all about consolidating power and control, and Republicans said, 277 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:26,640 we're standing against this. And now Mike Johnson said he was going to 278 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,640 be a better speaker than Kevin McCarthy is coming in and being like, you 279 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,079 guys don't like me. So we're getting rid of the motion to vacate. 280 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,400 That was leaked. So I saw it leaked to Axios. I don't know 281 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,319 how true that is, but if it is true, it's crazy. And 282 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:44,319 let's get to this. Georgetown professor Josh Hooter's fred on Johnson's decision to use 283 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,119 the Rules Committee to advance these foreign aid bills, which Huter says, is 284 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,920 quote curious. It is not surprising he doesn't have the votes in Rules. 285 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,240 He hasn't for weeks. It also makes him uniquely accountable for betraying his right 286 00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:02,880 flank in a way a discharge petition doesn't the parliamentary translation of this which I 287 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,720 always have to like refresh myself on the parliamentary procedure when we get into these 288 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,839 debates. But Chris, it actually matters because you see, I think kind 289 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:18,000 of disguised behind the parliamentary language what people's motives are and how they're choosing to 290 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:22,480 handle different situations. And this is this threat is really helpful for understanding that 291 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:26,960 the Rules Committee decides how things get voted, on how they go to the 292 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,359 floor, et cetera, rather than simply allowing members heuter continues to sign the 293 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:36,839 petition or vote against a PQ or other maneuver. Johnson has raised the specter 294 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:44,920 of forming a procedular procedural coalition with Democrats procedular that's the new one with Democrats 295 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,839 to overrun GOP opposition, potentially the most grievous betrayal of partisan politics in the 296 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,680 modern era. This is a step further than the sins of John Bayner and 297 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,279 Paul Ryan, who were run out of office for using DS to pass spending 298 00:21:57,319 --> 00:22:03,319 bills. Johnson would work with Dems to snuff out opposition from his GOP colleagues. 299 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:07,200 He's not just ignoring their opposition, he's stamping it out. It runs 300 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,599 counter to decades of procedural tack at tactics and strategies, and hasn't really been 301 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:17,119 seen since speakers have had to say over the Rules Committee's operations. It also 302 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,039 raises some questions, there's more than one way to move these bills. Johnson 303 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,279 chose the most politically treacherous path, setting aside for a moment that it could 304 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:26,519 have been a miscalculation. What does he gain from the turmoil? He can 305 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:30,880 frame rules conservatives as obstructionists and attempt to replace them. And he goes on 306 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,160 and on and says again, there are many ways to pass a bill, 307 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:40,400 So why Johnson chose the most difficult and politically dangerous path is perplexing to say 308 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,039 the least could not agree with that more. Yeah, it's hard to see. 309 00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:45,480 I mean, he laid out a pretty detailed plan of what he planned 310 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,279 to do, his speaker, he laid out the lines he would not cross. 311 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,480 He's crossed all of them. He's acting. It's kind of governing like 312 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,079 a prime minister with a center left coalition. Yes, yeah, where he's 313 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,880 just got this sun wheeled. There'sit the Freedom Caucus, which is like this 314 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,319 completely its own party with a couple of other members. Then there's a Republican 315 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,599 Party. And originally he had a Freedom Caucus Republican coalition, and now he's 316 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:15,200 got a Democrat and Republican coalition of government against the Freedom Caucus. And I 317 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,920 felt like, well, I was reading that thread that I was reading a 318 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,279 thread from Mike Lee or a Freedom Caucus person, but those from a Georgetown 319 00:23:22,279 --> 00:23:27,279 professor. Everyone can plainly see that what Mike Johnson is doing is both weird 320 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:32,799 and a betrayal of the people who agreed to make him speak. He's getting 321 00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:36,519 so much covered from the press you read about any opposition, and I was 322 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:40,240 reading a lot of different sources yesterday to write that piece I put out at 323 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,640 the Blaze, which is they took out from behind a paywall. Okay, 324 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,480 so anybody wants to read it, because the people were demanding Chris Bedford crying 325 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,119 out, if that we're not going to pay for it, that's exactly your 326 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,000 fans, we want him. But not that not that much, No, 327 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,400 not just completely lost my trianon. Oh yeah, every publication I was reading 328 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,119 I was referring to any opposition of this as hard right, extreme right. 329 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:15,519 It's like Nicole Mallia Tacas. Really it's just like I tweeted, she had 330 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:18,880 a great post yesterday being like what are we doing? And I was like, 331 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,400 it's very hard for Johnson to disagree with this argument, for his defenders 332 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,119 to disagree with this armament, And Dave Marcus replied, He's like, and 333 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,839 that's from Nicole Malia Tacas. It's like, yes, she's not Matt Gates. 334 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:37,200 Everyone can plainly see this from Nicole Mallie's audis except he alone hard right? 335 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,279 Or is he just he's just he's a wild card. It's always sending 336 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,480 in Philadelphia wild card. It doesn't hang out of like the nerds conservative lunch 337 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:48,799 table. I don't know. I don't know what he does, to be 338 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,079 honest, and I'd rather not. But all that is to say, big 339 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,559 picture, we could have a whole episode on on why because I know we 340 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,799 disagree actually with some of our friends on this. Uh getting rid of Kevin 341 00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:06,119 McCarthy. Do we have any tears for him? No? But tactically did 342 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,559 it turn out to be the smartest move? No? I think it's pretty 343 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:11,519 clearly, not because he had more waste of time. He had more And 344 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:15,839 actually, I remember when Mike Johnson ended up being speaker. We were sitting 345 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,799 literally right here and thinking, wow, I think we said it on the 346 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:21,440 show. We were like, this could be the most conservative speaker. This 347 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:27,279 is on paper the most conservative and forever forever, and uh, you know, 348 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,519 it was always possible. Embarrassed about I hedged, and I was like, 349 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,400 wow, this guy is a social con but you hedged in the front 350 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:40,400 of the pack. And that's because leadership has a tendency to corrupt you. 351 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,720 And you know, even if even and it's partially why I didn't Louisiana. 352 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:51,559 It's partially the great State of Louisiana has attempt to breach a certain type of 353 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:56,640 politician. But there's also partially I was like nervous about the prospect of Jim 354 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:03,559 Jordan becoming speaker. Keep them away from that. It's it corrupts people, 355 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,920 even if they're great. And you know, Mike Johnson again, what would 356 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,519 we do if we didn't have Jim Jordan holding panels and giving committee speeches and 357 00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:14,920 then going on Fox News to talk about them? Oh, shut up? 358 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,680 What would we do with Chris still mad about the anti trust stuff taking his 359 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:23,200 jacket. I just need more wins and less speeches. Well, I mean 360 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,160 they have barely a majority. I don't think Jim Jordan is the problem. 361 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,160 The problem is Mike Johnson. The problem before that was Johnson the problem with 362 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:37,960 your electric bicycle. Yeah, don't you have like much more questionable bicycle gear 363 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,839 than I do? By the way, So let's just table that for the 364 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,799 moment. But it's not the fault of Jim Jordan. It's the fault. 365 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:49,359 It's honestly the fault of Republican leadership. It's the faults of on the Senate 366 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,839 side when we talk about this, it's the fault of Mitch McConnell. It's 367 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,440 not the fault of Republican voters. Because Republican voters want the Republican Congress right 368 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:03,599 now to play hardball. They might not want a total shutdown, but they 369 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,839 want them to play hardball on the border because the border is so bad that 370 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:11,880 I would hold off any money for anything, millions anything, millions and millions 371 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,039 we know about and millions we don't know about. We are talking people from 372 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:22,960 adversary countries, from China. We are talking just the people that Josh Holly 373 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:27,240 was grilling Mayorcis on what was this yesterday or earlier this week that killed the 374 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,319 girl in Georgia. This is this is an emergency, There's no question about 375 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:37,799 it. It is an emergency on a level that goes beyond Ukraine. All 376 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:41,480 they want to do is keep you poor and stupid. The Watchdout on Wall 377 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:45,160 Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics 378 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,240 and the economy and how it affects your wallet. Some of the media are 379 00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:52,160 trying to tell you it's bad if your prices go down, causing a deflation 380 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,039 spiral. If prices go down, are people really going to hold off on 381 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,160 buying things? Doesn't everyone need groceries. Whether it's happening in DC or down 382 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,000 on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. Be informed. Check out the 383 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,839 watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify or wherever you 384 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:14,759 get your podcasts. And it's not just I mean those stories made we were 385 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:21,759 famous because they were killing American citizens, but the violence that's visited upon the 386 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,279 vast community of legal immigrants in this country who are terrified to go to the 387 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:30,559 police yes, Yeah, they'll get to port and and will be for years 388 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,119 to come because they're not going to be living in the shadows. Yeah, 389 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,319 and that's that's what the criminals really pray on. I mean, you'll get 390 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,279 you'll get some really tragic murders from time to time of American citizens, but 391 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:48,160 you'll you'll find some really gruesome stuff in Maryland and Virginia from the actual gangs. 392 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,240 That's that's just not It's not like an American citizen running track at our 393 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:56,559 college, you know. So it's it's like kind of like what the what 394 00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,359 the Joker says in Batman, Like you blow up a truckload of sould and 395 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,559 no one cares, but you blow up one tiny hospital and people freak out 396 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,319 because it's abnormal. Biden has ushered in a shadow society. He's ushered in 397 00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:11,240 a shadow society on a scale that we've never seen before. And he is 398 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:18,200 now going to tell voters either legalize everyone or you're a bigot. Legalize everyone, 399 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:22,240 or keep a shadow society living in the shadows perpetually, and then someday 400 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:25,599 with the hopes that they might legally because nobody is going to going to suggest 401 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,440 that he will deport I know, I'm sure where you don't have to live 402 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,640 in the shadows. It's back the way you came. Yes, But he's 403 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,920 also wildly destabilized those countries because everyone gets here via human trafficking, and so 404 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:41,119 those countries are now human trafficking that profits that profits one thing and one thing 405 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:48,559 only illegal cartels. So those countries just in the last couple of years have 406 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,839 come so fully under the control of cartels, or so so powerfully under the 407 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:59,599 control of those cartels, that they're completely destabilized unless they have boucele And I 408 00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:03,920 don't even the quote from the nineteenth century Mexican president is poor Mexico, so 409 00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,359 far from God and so close to the United States. And all we can 410 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:14,200 hear is Mike Johnson capitulating on you know, saying, well, we can't 411 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,559 do anything about the border, so you're gonna have to fund Ukraine to fund 412 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:21,200 Israel. That's it. That's the bottom line. The best I can do 413 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:26,400 is suitan Christopher Bedford. Oh, we'll be back here next week, I'm 414 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,319 sure with more. Thank you for running back. Maybe you will. You 415 00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,920 did last week. All right, you've been listening to another edition of The 416 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,599 Federalist or a radio hour Emily Trshinski, culture editor here at The Federalist. 417 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,480 We'll be back soon with more. Until then, he delivers a freedom and 418 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:48,480 anxious for the fray