Everybody. How's it going? Welcome to another video. We've got another interview
here with Old Bearskin of Bigfoot out of West Virginia. I've got him on
the line. How's it going, man, it's going pretty good. You
were telling me a little bit of what y'all were doing this morning. You're
staying busy up there. Old bears down a Bigfoot has got a YouTube channel.
I'm gonna link it below for everybody to go over and check his videos
out. And I'm really I love them. I've been watching when I can
most of his videos, and I really enjoyed the way he tells the stories.
And there are a lot of stories from your friends, aren't they?
Um, yeah, they're They're from the truck drivers that I know, and
uh, a lot of truck drivers I don't know. I give a lot
of stories from here in West Virginia too. Oh good deal. Now these
uh just over the road drivers. Are they co haulers or I mean,
do you have a friendship we all hauling something specific? Oh? No,
no, Usually I get stories when I go out West, down South and
stuff haul. Uh. I used to haul a couple of different things,
carbon and plastic. Now I haulster plastic. Oh okay, I'm West Virginia.
I'm thinking you're calling you're hauling coal. That's I guess a stereotype jum
story. But you you have a YouTube channel, do you want to talk
about that first? Just kind of tell us what your you know, what
your goals are, and what you concentrate on, because I think we would
have the same audience and people. People might like to come over and check
out your channel. Don't you tell us about your channel? Well? On
my channel, I typically have stories of bigfoot that are aggressive towards human you
know, mankind, and they seem to and that's kind of my benche.
I get aggressive stories all the time, you know where big foot might you
know, smick the house and the story trees or stuffing around the home,
or be looking in on the people in the home and stuff like that.
And I want to get that information out there because of when I was a
kid. I've seen a big foot at age sixteen, and I went from
a chance meeting to an aggressive thing and it just kind of spiled from that
point. And plus my wife and my best friends they helped me with you
know the channel, they do things for me. My wife usually runs the
camera and my buddy has seen Dick that he's dealt with them pretty much all
his life. And that's how we got started. Wow, that's interesting.
Well, you said you've had an encounter, and that's kind of what these
interviews are about. Do you want to just start at the beginning. And
you told me before we started you've had I think you said five encounters through
your life. You want to start at the beginning and just go from there.
Yeah. Sure. The first one when I was sixteen years old.
It was the last day of deer season here in west in West Virginia.
It was a pretty warm day. I mean the temperatures were up in the
sixties. Usually our deer seasons the highest forty forty two. And you're lucky
if you get that by that time of the year because it's in December.
And my dad letting me go by myself. I was sixteen. I had
a license, and I went a mile out the rich from where we part
and it was in the afternoon. It was around two or tween two and
two thirty when I got there. I sent there for probably half an hour,
and I heard some deer running my way. And these three days ran
out from behind out of the holler. I was near the head of Hollid
and at the head of Hollid there was two little splinter hallows that come meet
up at the head of Hollid and they came out, and as they came
out, they were running. They stopped. They were breathing heavy. You
could tell they'd been running quite a ways. And finally, after about thirty
seconds or so, they took off again. And I could hear something coming
out of the small holler off to my left, and I could hear grunts,
and I thought it was a coming out, you know that the time
of the year that they're meeting Timon. You know, I was probably and
Osbal was a kid at that age you know about there, never had heard
of the big Foot. I'd seen Boggy Creek the year before as a kid,
and uh, you know, my dad just kind of looked at me
when we watched the movie. He watched it with me and my younger brother,
and he looked at me, said all these things, that's that's that
he don't worry about it. And I never thought nothing about them. Well,
and the noise kept getting closer and closer than there was a big boulder
there off to my left. It was about seven seven a half foot tall,
and uh, this thing came. It stopped behind the boulder, and
the noise, you know, the football stopped and then started again, and
it came off behind the boulder and was watching the way the deer went and
it kind of stood there for probably five ten seconds, and then turned and
looked right at me and kind of had a surprise put its face. It
looked more human in the face than it did than it would you look like
an ape or something, but it was hair covered from top its head down
to its shoulders. There was no hair on its face. It just kind
of looked at me, surprised, and then it kind of started bearing its
teeth and growling at me and took a step towards me. And when it
took a step towards me, I had already raised my wife up, thinking
it was a deer going step out, and I had a model lunge full
Winchester, and I just cicked the hammerback and when I clicked the hammerback,
it stopped growling, and it looked at me and kind of was looking for
a way to get out, and it took off run and it spun around
and took off, running back up behind the bolt, and I never could
see it, and the hole and counter probably last probably a couple of minutes
from the time it walked out till it disappeared. And I got up and
went to leave, and I got to the road to go back out to
the truck where my dad was hunting out back out the ridge, and it
screamed, you know it without a big scream, and I kind of did
my best impression of an Olympic Olympic walker to get back. I'm sorry,
I'm laughing. I can just see you. I can see you doing the
speed walk out of the woods. That's great. Well, it's kind of
funny because I've never been a little kid. I was never a little I
was a big kid. When mom, mom and dad brought me home from
the hospital, they said I should have been able to walk when I was
born, just by the size I was right well up. So that wasn't
a necessarily a violent encounter. Did you tell anybody when you got home?
How did it go? What was the aftermath? Like? Well, I
ran into my dad going back out the ridge, and the moment he looked
at me, he said, what's the matter. And I said that I
don't want to talk about it. I said that I want to go home.
And he said, all right. You know, he hadn't seen any
to hear, and he was like, that's fine, we'll go home.
You know, you don't want to hunt. You know, we'll go home.
Son, that's no big deal. We got loaded up in the truck
and you know, all the way out the ridge, he kind of looked
at me, and I was kind of in shock, I guess, and
you know, I had a strange look on my face, and my dad
kept asking me, and you know, he asked me probably six or seven
times, and uh, finally I looked at him and I had tears in
my eyes and I said that I really I don't know how to explain this
to you. He just kind of looked at me and he said, Son,
you're my boy. Tell me, you know, just tell just tell
you, your old man. What's what's wrong? What did somebody came out
there and say something to you? Did somebody try to irm you? What
went on? And I and I finally just bluttered out I saw a back
foot and he just kind of looked at me, real strange, and he
said, Son, you mean them things. He watched the movie last year
and I was like, yeah, Dad, that one of those. He's
like, son, I told you those are not real. And I said,
Dad, they are real. I just saw one. I don't lie
to you. Dad. He said, no, You've never lied to me.
He said, you know the consequences if you lie. And I Dad,
I don't lie to Hugh because you know, you're my dad. And
he just kind of looked at me. He said, son, He said,
all right, I believe you. You know, tell me what happened.
And I told him the full story and told him everything that you know,
what went on. He's like, well, don't tell you mom and
your grandmother because if you do, they'll never let us go hunting again.
Yeah. Yea. And I never told my mom or my grandmother, never
said a word to him, never taught to anybody else about it, just
to my dad. You know. I got an older brother and a younger
brother and never told them, never said anything to my sister buddies at school,
just kind of kept it in and it kind of affected me to the
point where it kind of I withdrew from other people they were and it just
it just it turned my life upside down. Yeah, I bet it did.
And that's just from seeing one from seeing him step out like he did.
But that wasn't your Is that the well? I mean, the first
is usually the premier encounter. You know, most people only have one,
but you've had others. And how how did that progress? Keep? Everybody
was gonna want to know everything, so you might as well just go ahead
and give it up. What happened was was, you know, after I
got out of high school, and you know, I kind of started digging
into the subject that they put back then. And this was back in the
middle eighties, is when I nineteen eighty four is when I seen this,
And from that point on I cast started digging into them, trying to find
out what they were, you know, going through the polity and making a
lot of mistakes, you know, going out at night looking for him,
trying to listen for him, trying to make wood knocks and stuff like that,
and lousy bigfoot calls and so for probably so the time I was probably
thirty six. You know, I made a lot of mistakes as an investigator,
I guess you could call it, you know, doing investigation. And
finally I started talking to people and getting their stories about Bigfoot, you know,
from around here in the mountains of West Virginia. And then when I
started driving truck, I would, you know, kind of try to slip
Bigfoot into the conversation. Sometimes I'd get laughed at. Sometimes I'd get guys
that would come up to me and tell me, yeah, I've seen one,
and they would tell me their story, and I'd write them down and
I kept them over the years, and that's where a lot of the stories
come from today, is that I that I put out already have came from
notes taken back then and long descriptive notes of what happened to the person and
what went on. And that's where most of my first few stories came from.
But I get them all the time now. The second Bigfoot that I
saw, I was in North Carolina doing an interview with a lady that's on
our disc that I have a discord channel, and we talk about Bigfoot.
Now, I bring stories that I get from on the road into that channel
and we talk about them, we discuss them, and that's where yeah,
I kind of like let them hear the story and them kind of approved of
the story, and then put on YouTube. All right, Wait, a
minute. I'm sorry to stop you, and I know it's rude, but
tell me again what the channel is. I wasn't clear on what is it?
Something other people go ahead. Discord is like a voice channel. Okay,
you can create you can you can download the Discord app and create a
channel. It's a voice channel you can make up where people can post things
on there, you know, or you know, it's kind of like texting
almost on somebody you and then you have channels that it's a it's an extension
of your channel that you can do voice chats and stuff like that. Okay,
I've I've got people in there from all over the US, the West,
the northwest, northeast, South. I've even got a guy on there
that's from Australia. That's a good source for That's a good source for stories,
isn't it. Yeah? It helps, I mean, you know,
and and it helps quite a bit. And you know, most of these
people know quite a bit of out big Foot or the Yallei and we talked
about it and we discussed you know, the story on that channel, and
it's it's a lot of fun. We have. We have we have a
ball on Saturday nights on that channel and anybody can come in and and sit
in and listen and ask questions and Okay, well, I didn't mean to
sidetrack you there, but I may start jumping in on Saturday. What time
do y'all do it on Saturday, it's usually nine o'clock Eastern. Nine o'clock
eastern. I'm gonna write that down and try to try to start an account
and see if I can jump in with y'all. But I'm sorry I sidetracked
you. So you were coming up on your second encounter. Yeah, anyway,
I was in North Carolina doing an interview with one of the ladies and
that's on my Discord channel, and this is on Friday night, and we've
done the interview on Saturday night because it was a live interview, and I've
done it live on YouTube. We were sitting there on Friday night and she's
very afraid of being outside at night because big Foot. She has a clan
of Bigfoot that are kind of like living around her home. And she's not
out in the middle of nowhere. There's other houses close to her. They're
not on top of her, but there's a lot of you know, there's
houses around her. And we were. I got up and went to go
walk over to my truck. Just happened to catch something out of the corner
of my eye that that brought my attention to. There's there's a stand of
bamboo behind her house and look and took a little flashlight and just shined it
and there was eyeshine right there. And the eyes shine wouldn't have been a
person because it wasn't nowhere near a person's height. And I know, you
know, over the years, I know what a tune's eyes looks like,
and I know what apostle looks like or anything that would be out at night,
and I know what a big foot looks like, and I know where
their eyeshine is. And there was a big foot standing there right listening to
Okay, I showed I said something too, because my wife was with me,
and I said, honey, I said, you want to see a
bit, but come over and look, and I showed her what it looked
like. You know, where was that? And she stood there and she's
like, it's just standing there watching us, And that's what it was doing.
It was just standing there listening, listening to us. The three of
us sit outside at night and talk that's all it was doing. It was
intrigued, I guess it finally just kind of turned and walked away through the
band. Bog had never never done anything. And that's pretty much the second
one that I saw. That's a Now is that your Is that your wife's
first first encounter? Yes, her first encounter would be kind of like she
overheard she heard one here near our home. That would be the first inkling
that she had that there are big foot around our home. But it's like
when she when y'all were at when y'all saw that those eyes out in that
cane, you Uh, it kind of sealed it forward, didn't it.
Yeah. Yeah, she didn't seek too good that night either. She she
stayed awake. Man, I would just freak out. I would, absolutely
it would. I don't know what I think. I really don't know what
I think. Um. So that was pretty much the end of that one.
No, no problems with that bigfoot or anything. All right, that's
interesting. Well, keep keep keep us, keep us going here. I
know you got more to come. The third one was the very next day,
I sent my wife with the lady that had done the interview sentence to
the store. I wanted to find out where these big foot were hanging out
at around her hall. So I went to go look for footprints stuff of
that nature, you know, maybe find some hair, find tree brakes or
xes and other markers of big foot. Well I found them, or at
least I found the females. I went back through the bamboo behind her home
and there's there's some pretty dense woods behind behind the bamboo. And was out
there walking around and the only thing I had on me was a machette had
on my hip, you know, to cut through the bamboo and stuff.
Went back down the right side of her home and went through there and went
looking through the woods and found some tree bows and some axes and stuff like
that that bigfoot is known to do. Kind of hung a laugh, and
went over to this really thick area. Didn't see anything, didn't hear nothing.
There weren't any birds singing or any chipmunks, you know, making their
little squeaks and running around, and there wasn't no squirrels around. I was
like, well, there's something wrong year. So I kind of got the
feeling like maybe I shouldn't be there, and left. Was actually had put
my back to this really thick area and started walking out, and I heard
something behind me, and it was a lot of noise, and I turned
around and looked and there was this female big foot on all fours running at
me. Oh man, well, I didn't I didn't have my typical side
arm that I usually carry with me. And you know, I don't want
to heart one. I don't want to have to shoot one. But if
it means it dying or me dying, I'm gonna shoot, then I'm gonna
get out of dodge quick as I can. But she ran up probably within
she kind of barling out that brush and and god, probably within twenty yards
of me. It's probably around sixty feet away. And I hallowed at her
and she stopped, and when she did that, she just kind of stayed
on all fours and just looked at me. I started backing up and talking
to her and telling her, hey, I ain't trying to cause no trouble.
Just leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. We won't have to
get into an argument about this. And I backed up away from her,
and she finally kind of untensed up and just turned around and walked out on
all fours, back over into the brush. And soon as I got far
enough away, I didn't think that she would hear me run off. I
took off running and got down to the house and didn't say nothing to my
wife or the other lady. They got back probably ten minutes after I got
back to the house, and we carried in groceries and my wife kind of
looked at me funny. She said, why are you sweating so much?
I said, I can't lie to my wife. That's not a good thing
to ever do, and finally told her, and she just kind of looked
at me real funny and said, why do you take chances? And I
said, it's just you know, it's just me, honey, you know
that. And we kind of after it at that, and I didn't take
any more chance, so I stay away from you know, I tried not
to get into that situation again. I'm curious. And you may have said
and I may have missed it, but this was a pretty much up close
look at this female. Right. Can you describe for people the appearance that
you saw. Can you describe what she looked like? Yeah, she was
I would say she was down all fours and she had long arms. Her
back wasn't arched, you know, she kept it straight back. She was
hair covered, but you could see, you know, her breast singing down
from what I was looking at. She was hair covered from top of her
head down. She was a sandy blonde caller. You could tell it.
She was just maybe like a twenty something, you know, like a twenty
one or twenty two year old girl. And and she wasn't big and bulky,
you know, like the males that I have seen. She wasn't like
that. She was kind of slim and just like I said, just like
a twenty one or twenty year old girl that you know, you would run
into out in a you know, out of the grocery store or something of
that nature, at the library or whatever. Sure, I understand, but
her hips were wide. She may have had a young one already. I
don't know, because I never saw any young ones, you know, back
there. But she definitely didn't like the idea of me being around. She
just kind of, you know, it was in tent on getting me out
of there. She didn't really want a confrontation, but she didn't want me
there either, right. You know. She had a long hair that off
the top of her head that went down onto her bike a little bit and
it's kind of hung down on sides, off her shoulders, big long hands.
The skin on her hands were not dark, they were kind of like
a light brown. Her face was a light brown, and she had more
human type features on her face because her nose wasn't It's kind of like you
take the end of your nose and just kind of like smash it down a
little bit, and that's the way her nose look. You know, her
eyes were probably a couple of inches maybe three inches between her eyes. I
mean, she just looked like a normal young big foot. I mean,
that's that's all I can say. I mean, there's not really you know,
there's nothing you can compare them to in the human world because they don't
look like so her face. You know, whenever someone talk, you get
these images in your head of what I mean, I have images in my
head or what these things could look like in the face, and I have
a like a you know how the gorilla, you know, the from his
nose down his mouth and jaws kind of jut out a little bit, and
they have that large upper lip, and they have long canines. And I
doubt you saw her teeth, but or did you, Yeah, I saw
her teeth, they were just like the typical big teeth that you would see
on like a horse. But do you know what I'm talking about, how
the gorilla's mouth kind of protruded, protrudes, But it's not like that,
is it? No, it's it's they don't have a big long it's not
a protruding mouth. It's it's it's flat like a human. There is a
little bit more space between where their nose is and their lips are. But
they are kind of like a flat set of lips. I mean, they're
not big, old, puffy lips or anything like that. They're just tin
And you know, she had some wrinkling on her face, but not a
lot, not like the big males that I've seen. Right, How about
her head and neck? It is there no neck or does you know the
shoulders just come up to the head. It looks like they're it looks like
almost like if you just if you would draw like scenery and just put like
a little heel on a in the middle of a picture, that's pretty much
weave. Their head looks like it just like it comes up and then goes
over and then down the other side. And it's because of their muscle structure
on the that comes up from their shoulders and it goes up and it connects
to some of their head on the back. I understand exactly. I'm sorry
to be detailed in some of these questions. And I know you probably get
asked this a lot, but people listening are gonna want They're just gonna want
to know what. All right, Well, and you say her skin was
brown. I get a lot of reports that there that their skin is gray.
You think that's an age thing. No, because I've seen all the
five big foot that I've seen, I've only seen one that had gray skin.
I've seen him have a dark chocolate, tight skin. I think it
may not. I don't think it's too much in their age because some of
the ones that I've seen that had a dark chocolate they had long they had
gray hair in there, you know, on their body. Okay, typically
you know, you know age, but you know I've only like I said,
I've only seen the one in in you know, out of the five
that I've seen that had a gray skin. Okay, I got you,
all right, Well, I guess we don't want to stay on this appearance
thing too long. So and your wife was a little upset with you that
you were, but you just had to go look, look, didn't you.
It's kind of in my blood, you know what I mean about that.
I mean, that's that's all I can describe it as it's in my
blood. I have to go look, right, I understand. I understand
that. Well, moving forward, tell us, Uh, that's two encounters
down. Tell us uh, tell us how it's progressed since then. Well,
it has kind of reinvigorated me because for a long time I got had
gotten to the point where it was like, nobody believes anything that you know,
they don't believe anything about big Foot. That's it's all hoax. And
I've heard that for so long, you know. It made it to a
point where he's like, I'm just ready to give up, you know,
trying to let people know about these things and that they can be dangerous.
It is, you know, people just look at you like you're crazy,
you don't know what you're talking about. Three this thing, you might want
to check yourself into it. A singles out. So I was actually proved
that once in my life. Oh my gosh, seeing those two in North
Carolina really reinvigorated me on looking for big foot. And my buddy said,
hey, why don't you come up to my house and you know they're out
here. You can you know, you can hear them and stuff like that.
And we went out and an investigation to his house. And I've seen
two, yeah, two of his house. Actually both of them were completely
different colored, uh different sized. The first one I sent his house was
probably only eight foot tall seven d eight foot tall. It actually had a
belly on them, and most of them don't have a belly, you know.
Uh, like it had been eating real good, you know, and
it or maybe it had gotten to that midlife to the midlife crisis or whatever,
and it had started, you know, getting fat around its mid section
and stuff, you know like we do. So it was, like I
said, between seven eight foot doll. It was a dark chocolate hair.
It actually had hair on its face, well maybe now on its face,
but had hair that hung down from a right around a chin area and along
as jaw run. Its skin color was a dark dark chocolate. It just
kind of, you know, it just kind of walked upon us, looked
at us, and left. It just turned around. It all just three
people ain't worried about that, just said heck with them leave And then one
night we went to my buddy's house and we sit out there and in our
investigation. Ain't ain't like everybody else, you know, we don't try to
go out and find them. But we don't go out. We don't have
to go out and find them, because they come to watch us. We'll
cook out on an open fire pike and take steaks and cut them up into
a little chunks and throwings and potatoes and onions and green peppers and whatever else
we want to cook up in a loonum pall pan and we'll sit there and
eat. We'll sit there and talk about, you know whatever. They seemed
to come up and investigate us and see what we're doing. We had done
that one night it had My wife looked at me, some honey, I'm
tired, I'm ready to home. And it was probably, oh, I'd
say one thirty in the morning when he was leaving, left my buddy's place
and went out. I was actually had gotten out and was locking his gate
to his driveway up was standing and heard something and had a flashlight with me
because everybody has trouble seeing him dark, you know, trying to put a
lock together and looked up and there was a nine footter or better, I
would have to say it was over and well over nine foot, because it
was bigger than than the eight footer I saw when I was I was a
young key had this thing just stood there, turned looked at me, and
I shined a flashlight on it, and it just stood there. And finally
it to back around across the road his driveway, which is a gravel driveway,
and it took two steps and it was over the side of the bank,
and I heard her walk off, and I just got back in the
truck and looked at my wife and I said, you should have been out
there. You just kind of looked at me, and so, what do
you mean? I said, the big one was up here. You just
had to rub it in, didn't you. That's the only time I get
a rubbing thing in the rest of the time. She keeps me, I
got you. But we came home and we talked about it all the way
home, and that was the last one I've seen. I we just haven't
done any investigations lately, and I haven't been going all over all over the
country like you with you know, my job and stuff, you know,
just haven't talked to a lot of people, and so that's pretty much where
I'm at right now. I'm starting to get back out there on the road
and talking to people and getting more reports of big foot because of the YouTube
channel. Can people call me with reports them? Yeah, I would suspect
that you have a better rapport with people who have had encounter since you have
yourself. See, I haven't, and so I think when people send me
stories and stuff, I'd like to have that connection with them, but I
just don't. And I'm not gonna lie and make up a story just to
grow this is. People take this serious, people like you who have actually
seen one, and I think y'all can sniff the fakers out, and so
I don't even I wouldn't even try it. And so as you interview people,
you probably have a good back and forth in a just a natural kinship
with these people. I tell you what drew me to your I had had
several people tell me you need to listen to what he's doing on his YouTube
channel. And if you're you're you're in truck, I don't know what you
listen to as you're driving and stuff, you probably have a chance to I
would think YouTube would be hard to listen to while as a driver because you
have to keep skipping through ads and all that crap. What do you normally
listen to? Do you listen to the radio or podcasts or what do you
what do you normally listen to? Well, I typically listen to a serious
x M. I'm I'm an actual Christian minister. I listened to, you
know, the Christian channels a lot, and I you know, I'll listen
to talk radio and stuff like that. But typically I usually listen to the
serious XM radio and you know, and I got CD in the truck.
Sometimes guys will get on there and they'll start talking, or they'll holler at
you and want to talk. And I do that too, But my life
is rather boring when you're driving the truck. That's That's the only thing I
could sell you, kind of boring. I was kind of using that to
make a point because I said in a video back, I don't know two
three videos ago that you know as that create videos like you and I do,
we don't really have time to watch a lot of YouTube. I know
that I've gotten comments from truck drivers saying, oh man, your videos are
fun. To listen to in the truck and stuff. But I always wonder,
man, do they just have to sit there and endure those stupid ads
or what. What drew me to your channel was first a couple of people
had told me about it through emails or in the comments. And you know,
we don't again, we don't have a lot of time to just watch
YouTube all day, but I mean I would if I could. It's not
that I don't like it. I just, you know, there's some things
you can't do while you're working. But I went over and I wound up,
and I think I just got through your I think I've listened to your
whole library, and it's fascinating to me how you tell these stories because they
feel like, you know, my stuff is kind of a production. Even
though I'm reading people's real accounts. I'm paying attention to, you know,
mu music and scenery and all that fluffy stuff because I'm trying to do an
entertainment channel basically. But the way you tell these stories, it's almost like
it is like you have a kinship with the people who have sent them in.
And some of those stories you'll follow up on. And there's one in
particular where you're talking about, well, they had to kill this bigfoot.
Now, I don't want you to tell the story here because I want people
to go listen to it on your channel, but the pup. But my
question is, are you, through the years, and especially lately with your
channel, are you seeing a lot of people taking these things on, shooting
them and trying to run them off or killing them if they have to.
Well, over the years, I have seen quite a few people get frustrated
with these creatures and does start shooting them. The problem with that is if
you don't kill the whole plan and I've seen it happen. Well I didn't
see it, but I've been told about it. If you don't kill the
whole clan, whatever one that you didn't kill, the other ones come and
take revenge. I mean it's like there's there's a movie that had Patrick Swayze
in it. He was a detective in Detroit or something like that. The
mob was in on the movie. They killed his younger brother, and at
the end of the movie, the whole family comes to Detroit and starts taking
on the mob and they're shooting these guys with foes and shotguns and all this
stuff, and that's basically the way the big Foot do it. I mean,
if you start a fight with somebody and it's a fair fight, and
you get in the fist fight here in stay Westginia, your family stays out
at it. But if the other guy does something and does something to harm
you or harm someone in your family, basically is the half Fields and McCoys
is with the way I looked at it, the way I found that it
happened. Two families comes to fight and they're they're going to do whatever they
have. Yeah, that movie was called Next of Ken Patrick Swayze and Liam
Neeson was his brother. His name was Briar, And I remember that movie
really well because I love that name, and I wanted I wanted to name
our last son Briar because I just love that name. I thought, man,
what an original name. But we had a we had a little girl,
so I couldn't name her Briar. So I know exactly what you're talking
about. They have a real it's a Next of Ken kind of mentality these
big Foot troops have, isn't it. Yes, yes, very much so
looking forward or you say you're you're kind of thinking about getting back out and
doing getting boots on the ground and doing a little more of that. I
would imagine with all this mess going on with this virus and everybody short on
stuff, just thinking logically, you're probably gonna pick up more work, aren't
you. M Yeah, I mean we do a lot of I changed companies
here recently and we haul nothing but plastic plants. It's fun to me.
And will we do a lot of doing, you know, across up in
the Northeast and down the southeast, all these plastic cost to places, you
know, and make plastic ports or parts for four wheelers or whatever, you
know, whatever plastic's got to be made. And we're picking up a lot
of work right now. And it's it's been a busy time force because of
this virus. You know, other companies are cutting back on doing things and
because of this virus, and it seems like everything that's plastic is just taking
a big boon. Yeah. So yeah, I'm gonna be busy, but
I'm still going to do this on the weekend, I'll say, so that
maybe it won't cut into your plans to get out there. Do you have
a specific area that you're gonna be investigating or do you use your contacts and
go visit their places. How has this worked out that way for you people
you've met? Yeah, okay, yeah, that's that's like the lady I
did the live interview with in North Carolina. You know, we did an
investigation down the air and went looking and went and found quite a quite a
bunch of markers around her home across the road from her house and everything.
Wentn't looking around and found a bunch of markers of Bigfoot, you know,
like hides and xs and tree bows and tree twists, and found a footprint.
But I'm not the type that goes out and cast you know, the
footprints and stuff like that. I just never never think to do that.
That's something I should probably do, but I just I just don't think of
about a day, you know, I don't think of them that way.
I just I know they're there. My thing is is, you know,
I want to get the information out there to people that these things are not
all nice. They can be very aggressive. They will kill you if if
they get a chance to. Actually I get about sixty percent nice stories and
then the other forty percent or either you know, there's some nefarious intent with
the big Foot or something else. But speaking on those footcastings, I wonder
you know. I put up a video I guess yesterday and the title is
the title of it was stay anonymous, because I've done a lot of thinking
about this. And when I first started doing this about a year ago,
you know, I told people, I said, I'll put you name in
it if you want to or not, and I kind of came to the
and I haven't ever given anybody's full name. I just I never felt comfortable
to in that. And if other people do, that's fine. I'm not.
I just I'm gonna do my thing and everybody else is going to do
their thing. And I haven't really picked up on what you do, and
it doesn't matter. But speaking of the cast I think here's and I'm curious
what you think about it. I'm gonna tell you mine and then you tell
me yours. I think as far as bigfoot investigations go, there are people
like you, and I know a dozen guys like you who love to go
into the woods, namely because they just love being outdoors. And I kind
of pick up from you you're that way, But to go into the woods
and enjoy the outdoors with a mission to be looking for something, whether you're
squirrel hunting, turkey hunting like you and I were talking about earlier, or
hunting for signs of bigfoot, or even looking for an encounter. You can
do all that stuff, and the people that do it are the usually the
nicest, most friendly, happy people I've ever met. I'm just telling you
there, I've had such good experiences with investigators like yourself, and I know
you hadn't been able to do a lot lately, but still deep at heart
you're an investigator. Here's what I'm getting out. I tried to think.
You know, bigfoot really came on the scene in nineteen sixty seven when mister
Giblin and mister Patterson got that footage and then it became really you know,
it was out there to the public and people were and then with the onset
of the Internet, it became very popular, you know, with these with
our you know, little YouTube channels and the websites and all that stuff.
But really, really, the the idea of bigfoot has really not advanced much
since in nineteen sixty seven because it's still considered a crypted, a mythical creature,
or an undiscovered species, and thousands of tracks have been cast. Thousands
of tree structures have been you know, photographed on and on and on,
all those tree twists, you know would not recordings and even videos of people
who say this is a bigfoot. But the cause I'm just using that word
because I can't think of another one has not really moved much since Gimmelin and
Patterson got that got that video. Bigfoot is still a huge mystery, and
so I kind of understand why, you know, why would you stop in
cast attract It's like a I'm not saying it's a waste of time, but
if it was me, I would feel like, oh, I'm not gonna
waste my time doing that. I mean, there's a bunch of cast already
out there. It's not going to advance the cause, which takes us to
people. And I'm asking you this because you you have you and I have
similar channels. In other words, we tell people's stories. I don't think
that someone attaching their name to a story advances the cause of again causes probably
the wrong word, but advances the theory or cause a bigfoot one bit.
I think what it does. On the other hand, I think it could
be to see these people never know who's going to stumble on one of these.
If you give your full name, man, it could cause all kinds
of trouble in your life. And I I've gotten to where I've discouraged people
from doing that. If you want to tell your first name, that's fine.
So you can show your buddies, hey see he's telling my story or
the guy that had to encounter with him, here's our story, you know,
and so they can identify with their friends and say, hey, listen
to this. But just to put it out there to the world. And
my opinion is I think people should really think about that. I'm not saying
they shouldn't do it, So everybody listening, I'm not saying they should not
do it. I'm just saying you need to think about it real hard before
you put your full name out there. And I'm wondering what your feeling is
on that. Do you have any or can you expound on that? Yill.
Just like on my channel, there's there's people, but I get the
person's full name. But here's the thing. Back when I was doing all
the investigations and when I was able able to go out at any time at
night or you know, or or chase down a story from somebody I had,
you know, I got their names, and you know, these other
people that would before I, before I started YouTube, you would associate the
person's name with the story about the big foot, about their encounter with a
big foot, and if you put that name out there, I'd actually seen
a guy lose his job and his home because of it. And this was
something that he'd seen a big foot back when he was a kid out squirrel
hunting one day and he got a hold of me, and I put his
name with the story, and you know, kind of associated it with other
people that I who had seen big foot, and I guess that name kind
of got his name got back to someone that he worked for, and they've
fired him because of it. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Called him
right in the office and said, you know, I heard that you saw
this mythical creature and I can't have you associated with that, and since I've
got to let you guy. And he lost a real good paying job.
Because he losing his job, he lost his home and that put him and
his wife and took full of kids out on the street. And he had
it tough for for three or four years. And you know, he said
I wished that. I would never have told you, you know, because
I check on people that give me a story. You know, I get
their phone numbers, I call them and you know, see how they're doing,
and see if the big foot are still coming around their home and stuff
like that. You know, I care about these people because, like you
said earlier, you probably get sixty or forty you know of good stories being
On the other hand, I get probably eighty five percent bad stories about big
footing fifteen good, right. But the thing of it is is, you
know, I care about these people and their well being, and that's why
I never give a person's name. I don't care if they tell me to
put their full name or their first name out there. No, I'm not
doing it because I've seen the consequences of it first hand. I'm so glad
you said that because and again I don't think you have a cause or I
have a cause. But I don't ever want to steer anyone wrong so that
I am able to create a good video and make a little change. It's
not right. It's just not right to do that. And it's different than
you know. There are other cases where you don't want to you don't want
to lose your identity. You're a pastor, and you know that if a
man follows Christ, do not, in any case want to deny Christ.
It doesn't it doesn't negate the Gospel if you do. If you do deny
Christ, Jesus already paid for every sin you're ever going to make. He
did it with Peter. But you want to display a posture of something that
you love and care about, and you don't want to let those things go,
like your faith, or your family or your country. But Bigfoot's not
worth it. It's just not worth all the upheaval in your life that could
be, that could come down the pike. And so I'll put that video
out. A guy had written a story about a guy in the UK and
how he had been harassed all his life and he finally had to leave the
town. It was so bad he had to leave the town. And this
wasn't even a Bigfoot thing. It was a kind of a UFO story.
So I'm so glad to hear you say that. And I don't blame any
other channels for asking people to give their names. If that's the way they
want to run their channel, that's their business, and not gonna get in
their business. But I just want to tell people before you do, just
think it through real hard. And it sounds like you agree with me.
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. You know, like I said, I've seen
and this guy that I was telling you about, you know, he didn't
know me from Adam or Eve. He you know, he confided in me
with his story and all idea was tell two other guys they hunt for Bigfoot.
In fact, one of those guys was my mentor that that taught me
about, you know, what Bigfoot does and other things, and and showed
me a lot of stuff that Bigfoot does. He never told nobody, but
the other guy did, right, and it got back around and the other
guy wasn't even in the same town or what wasn't even the same furthest face,
But he got back around to the guy's boss and he lost his job
and lost his home, and it almost cost him his marriag and you know,
they'd have been a divorce, and you know, he you know,
he may have lost his kids in the process of it. People have asked
me, well, you know, who is this person that you're talking about.
You don't get their name right, I mean, I don't mean to
be mean, but they have confidence in me keeping their name and their career
safe and their family safe. Because what if a guy goes out fishing with
his buddies one night and him and his buddy seen his big foot and he
doesn't go home and tell his wife about it. Well he, you know,
six months or eight months down the road and he tells me about the
story, or he calls me, you know, he finds my channel on
YouTube, or or he calls you or anybody else that does this on YouTube,
and he calls him and says, you know, hey, this is
what happened to me and my buddies. Well, these guys are out fishing,
they're not drinking, you know, not don't doing anything wrong. But
you know, somebody puts their name out there, and all of a sudden,
there, you know, this gets back to their wife and the wife's
life. There's no such things big, but you lied to me, you
and this is gonna cause a big argument, and it might drive a wedge
in the family, you know, between them. You know, I've got
to look at that, you know, I've got that something like that happens.
I've got it on my mind and it's on my heart. I wouldn't
want somebody putting my name out there. You know, if it's me,
that's fine, I'll put my name out. But if people don't, don't
want their name out there. And I did it anyway because you know,
like I said, I get their first and last name, get their telephone
number. It's that's a lot of identifying information for someone. It gets back
to their wife, and their wife doesn't believe them, tells us a big
rift in the family. They get the boors, you know, the guys
gotta you know, he doesn't have his kids, doesn't have the woman that
he fell in love with anymore because she didn't believe it. That would be
heavily on me, on me. You have a conscience, don't you.
Yeah, yeah, I have. I have a lot of concern for other
people. And I guess you know if that's conscience, you know, that's
that's what it is. Well, listen, we're we're a a little bit
over an hour now, so let's uh, I always ask everybody. First,
let me say, I just got a notification from your YouTube channel that
your video cannaan Valley, Bigfoot or Messy Boogers just got uploaded. So after
y'all listen to this goal. Go to Old bears Den a bigfoot channel,
and watch this latest video and check out all his videos. But what I
was going to say is I kind of give everybody h I ask you you
have any parting words or anybody on this topic before we before we sign off.
The only thing that I would like to say is bigfoot is a creature
that we don't know what exactly they are, but they live out in the
wild. They live out in the woods, you know, deserts, places
that most people don't go. The best thing I can tell you is is
have your head on a swivel, watch your back, and be very careful
of these creatures. If you come up on them, don't give them a
reason to attack you. You don't stand a chance. Just be safe other
people. I mean, I'd love to hear your story about seeing a big
foot. I don't want to hear somebody else a story that my buddy got
killed by a big foot. Yeah, and this is coming from a guy
who's seen aggressive behavior and has five encounters of his own. He's seen how
big these things are, he's seen how powerful and fast they are, and
he's got a little idea of their demeanor, So take his word for it.
Investigators, you know, be careful. I would listen to what the
man said, Well, listen. I appreciate you so much. I know
it took how long. We've been trying to put this together. For a
month and a half. I'd get sick, and then you'd get sick,
and then my wife got sick, and finally today I just called him and
I said, how about right now? And he goes, let's do it.
So we just did it. Thank you so much for doing this with
me. It's a huge I considered a huge favor to me. And before
we go, we talked about your Discord link is does it have a name
that people can search on Discord? It's just Old Bear's Dinner Bigfoot. Okay,
if you go to my channel, there's actually a link for the Discord
going to download the app for you. I'm gonna go to your channel and
copy that link and put it in the description below of this video. And
I'm also going to link your YouTube channel first, your Discord channel second.
And I think that should get everybody all the information they need to get over
And I highly recommend you go listen to his stories because are great they're great,
and I'm uh, it's when I get to listen, it's like I
can't stop, I can't turn it off. I have to, and then
it's hard not to go to the next video if I'm busy. But he's
telling great stories, true stories, good stories that he's getting from drivers and
from people that he knows through his discord channel and friends and you know,
buddies he's come up hunting with and and all those kind of things. So
y'all go check them out one more time. Thank you again for coming on,
and guys, thanks for listening this far and I appreciate you and we
will see you on the next video. Thanks