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Everybody. How's it going? Welcome
to another video. We've got another interview

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here with Old Bearskin of Bigfoot out
of West Virginia. I've got him on

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the line. How's it going,
man, it's going pretty good. You

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were telling me a little bit of
what y'all were doing this morning. You're

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staying busy up there. Old bears
down a Bigfoot has got a YouTube channel.

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I'm gonna link it below for everybody
to go over and check his videos

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out. And I'm really I love
them. I've been watching when I can

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most of his videos, and I
really enjoyed the way he tells the stories.

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And there are a lot of stories
from your friends, aren't they?

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Um, yeah, they're They're from
the truck drivers that I know, and

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uh, a lot of truck drivers
I don't know. I give a lot

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of stories from here in West Virginia
too. Oh good deal. Now these

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uh just over the road drivers.
Are they co haulers or I mean,

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do you have a friendship we all
hauling something specific? Oh? No,

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no, Usually I get stories when
I go out West, down South and

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stuff haul. Uh. I used
to haul a couple of different things,

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carbon and plastic. Now I haulster
plastic. Oh okay, I'm West Virginia.

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I'm thinking you're calling you're hauling coal. That's I guess a stereotype jum

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story. But you you have a
YouTube channel, do you want to talk

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about that first? Just kind of
tell us what your you know, what

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your goals are, and what you
concentrate on, because I think we would

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have the same audience and people.
People might like to come over and check

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out your channel. Don't you tell
us about your channel? Well? On

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my channel, I typically have stories
of bigfoot that are aggressive towards human you

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know, mankind, and they seem
to and that's kind of my benche.

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I get aggressive stories all the time, you know where big foot might you

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know, smick the house and the
story trees or stuffing around the home,

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or be looking in on the people
in the home and stuff like that.

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And I want to get that information
out there because of when I was a

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kid. I've seen a big foot
at age sixteen, and I went from

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a chance meeting to an aggressive thing
and it just kind of spiled from that

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point. And plus my wife and
my best friends they helped me with you

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know the channel, they do things
for me. My wife usually runs the

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camera and my buddy has seen Dick
that he's dealt with them pretty much all

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his life. And that's how we
got started. Wow, that's interesting.

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Well, you said you've had an
encounter, and that's kind of what these

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interviews are about. Do you want
to just start at the beginning. And

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you told me before we started you've
had I think you said five encounters through

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your life. You want to start
at the beginning and just go from there.

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Yeah. Sure. The first one
when I was sixteen years old.

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It was the last day of deer
season here in west in West Virginia.

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It was a pretty warm day.
I mean the temperatures were up in the

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sixties. Usually our deer seasons the
highest forty forty two. And you're lucky

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if you get that by that time
of the year because it's in December.

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And my dad letting me go by
myself. I was sixteen. I had

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a license, and I went a
mile out the rich from where we part

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and it was in the afternoon.
It was around two or tween two and

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two thirty when I got there.
I sent there for probably half an hour,

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and I heard some deer running my
way. And these three days ran

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out from behind out of the holler. I was near the head of Hollid

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and at the head of Hollid there
was two little splinter hallows that come meet

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up at the head of Hollid and
they came out, and as they came

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out, they were running. They
stopped. They were breathing heavy. You

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could tell they'd been running quite a
ways. And finally, after about thirty

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seconds or so, they took off
again. And I could hear something coming

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out of the small holler off to
my left, and I could hear grunts,

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and I thought it was a coming
out, you know that the time

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of the year that they're meeting Timon. You know, I was probably and

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Osbal was a kid at that age
you know about there, never had heard

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of the big Foot. I'd seen
Boggy Creek the year before as a kid,

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and uh, you know, my
dad just kind of looked at me

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when we watched the movie. He
watched it with me and my younger brother,

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and he looked at me, said
all these things, that's that's that

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he don't worry about it. And
I never thought nothing about them. Well,

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and the noise kept getting closer and
closer than there was a big boulder

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there off to my left. It
was about seven seven a half foot tall,

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and uh, this thing came.
It stopped behind the boulder, and

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the noise, you know, the
football stopped and then started again, and

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it came off behind the boulder and
was watching the way the deer went and

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it kind of stood there for probably
five ten seconds, and then turned and

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looked right at me and kind of
had a surprise put its face. It

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looked more human in the face than
it did than it would you look like

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an ape or something, but it
was hair covered from top its head down

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to its shoulders. There was no
hair on its face. It just kind

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of looked at me, surprised,
and then it kind of started bearing its

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teeth and growling at me and took
a step towards me. And when it

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took a step towards me, I
had already raised my wife up, thinking

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it was a deer going step out, and I had a model lunge full

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Winchester, and I just cicked the
hammerback and when I clicked the hammerback,

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it stopped growling, and it looked
at me and kind of was looking for

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a way to get out, and
it took off run and it spun around

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and took off, running back up
behind the bolt, and I never could

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see it, and the hole and
counter probably last probably a couple of minutes

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from the time it walked out till
it disappeared. And I got up and

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went to leave, and I got
to the road to go back out to

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the truck where my dad was hunting
out back out the ridge, and it

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screamed, you know it without a
big scream, and I kind of did

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my best impression of an Olympic Olympic
walker to get back. I'm sorry,

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I'm laughing. I can just see
you. I can see you doing the

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speed walk out of the woods.
That's great. Well, it's kind of

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funny because I've never been a little
kid. I was never a little I

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was a big kid. When mom, mom and dad brought me home from

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the hospital, they said I should
have been able to walk when I was

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born, just by the size I
was right well up. So that wasn't

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a necessarily a violent encounter. Did
you tell anybody when you got home?

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How did it go? What was
the aftermath? Like? Well, I

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ran into my dad going back out
the ridge, and the moment he looked

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at me, he said, what's
the matter. And I said that I

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don't want to talk about it.
I said that I want to go home.

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And he said, all right.
You know, he hadn't seen any

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to hear, and he was like, that's fine, we'll go home.

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You know, you don't want to
hunt. You know, we'll go home.

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Son, that's no big deal.
We got loaded up in the truck

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and you know, all the way
out the ridge, he kind of looked

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at me, and I was kind
of in shock, I guess, and

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you know, I had a strange
look on my face, and my dad

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kept asking me, and you know, he asked me probably six or seven

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times, and uh, finally I
looked at him and I had tears in

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my eyes and I said that I
really I don't know how to explain this

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to you. He just kind of
looked at me and he said, Son,

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you're my boy. Tell me,
you know, just tell just tell

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you, your old man. What's
what's wrong? What did somebody came out

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there and say something to you?
Did somebody try to irm you? What

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went on? And I and I
finally just bluttered out I saw a back

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foot and he just kind of looked
at me, real strange, and he

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said, Son, you mean them
things. He watched the movie last year

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and I was like, yeah,
Dad, that one of those. He's

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like, son, I told you
those are not real. And I said,

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Dad, they are real. I
just saw one. I don't lie

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to you. Dad. He said, no, You've never lied to me.

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He said, you know the consequences
if you lie. And I Dad,

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I don't lie to Hugh because you
know, you're my dad. And

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he just kind of looked at me. He said, son, He said,

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all right, I believe you.
You know, tell me what happened.

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And I told him the full story
and told him everything that you know,

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what went on. He's like,
well, don't tell you mom and

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your grandmother because if you do,
they'll never let us go hunting again.

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Yeah. Yea. And I never
told my mom or my grandmother, never

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said a word to him, never
taught to anybody else about it, just

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to my dad. You know.
I got an older brother and a younger

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brother and never told them, never
said anything to my sister buddies at school,

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just kind of kept it in and
it kind of affected me to the

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point where it kind of I withdrew
from other people they were and it just

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it just it turned my life upside
down. Yeah, I bet it did.

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And that's just from seeing one from
seeing him step out like he did.

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But that wasn't your Is that the
well? I mean, the first

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is usually the premier encounter. You
know, most people only have one,

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but you've had others. And how
how did that progress? Keep? Everybody

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was gonna want to know everything,
so you might as well just go ahead

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and give it up. What happened
was was, you know, after I

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got out of high school, and
you know, I kind of started digging

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into the subject that they put back
then. And this was back in the

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middle eighties, is when I nineteen
eighty four is when I seen this,

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And from that point on I cast
started digging into them, trying to find

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out what they were, you know, going through the polity and making a

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lot of mistakes, you know,
going out at night looking for him,

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trying to listen for him, trying
to make wood knocks and stuff like that,

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and lousy bigfoot calls and so for
probably so the time I was probably

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thirty six. You know, I
made a lot of mistakes as an investigator,

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I guess you could call it,
you know, doing investigation. And

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finally I started talking to people and
getting their stories about Bigfoot, you know,

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from around here in the mountains of
West Virginia. And then when I

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started driving truck, I would,
you know, kind of try to slip

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Bigfoot into the conversation. Sometimes I'd
get laughed at. Sometimes I'd get guys

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that would come up to me and
tell me, yeah, I've seen one,

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and they would tell me their story, and I'd write them down and

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I kept them over the years,
and that's where a lot of the stories

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come from today, is that I
that I put out already have came from

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notes taken back then and long descriptive
notes of what happened to the person and

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what went on. And that's where
most of my first few stories came from.

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But I get them all the time
now. The second Bigfoot that I

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saw, I was in North Carolina
doing an interview with a lady that's on

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our disc that I have a discord
channel, and we talk about Bigfoot.

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Now, I bring stories that I
get from on the road into that channel

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and we talk about them, we
discuss them, and that's where yeah,

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I kind of like let them hear
the story and them kind of approved of

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the story, and then put on
YouTube. All right, Wait, a

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minute. I'm sorry to stop you, and I know it's rude, but

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tell me again what the channel is. I wasn't clear on what is it?

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Something other people go ahead. Discord
is like a voice channel. Okay,

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you can create you can you can
download the Discord app and create a

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channel. It's a voice channel you
can make up where people can post things

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on there, you know, or
you know, it's kind of like texting

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almost on somebody you and then you
have channels that it's a it's an extension

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of your channel that you can do
voice chats and stuff like that. Okay,

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I've I've got people in there from
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the northwest, northeast, South.
I've even got a guy on there

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that's from Australia. That's a good
source for That's a good source for stories,

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isn't it. Yeah? It helps, I mean, you know,

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and and it helps quite a bit. And you know, most of these

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people know quite a bit of out
big Foot or the Yallei and we talked

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about it and we discussed you know, the story on that channel, and

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it's it's a lot of fun.
We have. We have we have a

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ball on Saturday nights on that channel
and anybody can come in and and sit

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in and listen and ask questions and
Okay, well, I didn't mean to

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sidetrack you there, but I may
start jumping in on Saturday. What time

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do y'all do it on Saturday,
it's usually nine o'clock Eastern. Nine o'clock

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eastern. I'm gonna write that down
and try to try to start an account

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and see if I can jump in
with y'all. But I'm sorry I sidetracked

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you. So you were coming up
on your second encounter. Yeah, anyway,

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I was in North Carolina doing an
interview with one of the ladies and

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that's on my Discord channel, and
this is on Friday night, and we've

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done the interview on Saturday night because
it was a live interview, and I've

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done it live on YouTube. We
were sitting there on Friday night and she's

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very afraid of being outside at night
because big Foot. She has a clan

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of Bigfoot that are kind of like
living around her home. And she's not

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out in the middle of nowhere.
There's other houses close to her. They're

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not on top of her, but
there's a lot of you know, there's

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houses around her. And we were. I got up and went to go

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walk over to my truck. Just
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of my eye that that brought my
attention to. There's there's a stand of

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bamboo behind her house and look and
took a little flashlight and just shined it

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and there was eyeshine right there.
And the eyes shine wouldn't have been a

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person because it wasn't nowhere near a
person's height. And I know, you

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know, over the years, I
know what a tune's eyes looks like,

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and I know what apostle looks like
or anything that would be out at night,

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and I know what a big foot
looks like, and I know where

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their eyeshine is. And there was
a big foot standing there right listening to

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Okay, I showed I said something
too, because my wife was with me,

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and I said, honey, I
said, you want to see a

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bit, but come over and look, and I showed her what it looked

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like. You know, where was
that? And she stood there and she's

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like, it's just standing there watching
us, And that's what it was doing.

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It was just standing there listening,
listening to us. The three of

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us sit outside at night and talk
that's all it was doing. It was

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intrigued, I guess it finally just
kind of turned and walked away through the

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band. Bog had never never done
anything. And that's pretty much the second

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one that I saw. That's a
Now is that your Is that your wife's

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first first encounter? Yes, her
first encounter would be kind of like she

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overheard she heard one here near our
home. That would be the first inkling

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that she had that there are big
foot around our home. But it's like

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when she when y'all were at when
y'all saw that those eyes out in that

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cane, you Uh, it kind
of sealed it forward, didn't it.

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Yeah. Yeah, she didn't seek
too good that night either. She she

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stayed awake. Man, I would
just freak out. I would, absolutely

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it would. I don't know what
I think. I really don't know what

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I think. Um. So that
was pretty much the end of that one.

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No, no problems with that bigfoot
or anything. All right, that's

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interesting. Well, keep keep keep
us, keep us going here. I

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know you got more to come.
The third one was the very next day,

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I sent my wife with the lady
that had done the interview sentence to

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the store. I wanted to find
out where these big foot were hanging out

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at around her hall. So I
went to go look for footprints stuff of

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that nature, you know, maybe
find some hair, find tree brakes or

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xes and other markers of big foot. Well I found them, or at

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least I found the females. I
went back through the bamboo behind her home

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and there's there's some pretty dense woods
behind behind the bamboo. And was out

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there walking around and the only thing
I had on me was a machette had

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on my hip, you know,
to cut through the bamboo and stuff.

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Went back down the right side of
her home and went through there and went

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looking through the woods and found some
tree bows and some axes and stuff like

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that that bigfoot is known to do. Kind of hung a laugh, and

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went over to this really thick area. Didn't see anything, didn't hear nothing.

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There weren't any birds singing or any
chipmunks, you know, making their

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little squeaks and running around, and
there wasn't no squirrels around. I was

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like, well, there's something wrong
year. So I kind of got the

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feeling like maybe I shouldn't be there, and left. Was actually had put

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my back to this really thick area
and started walking out, and I heard

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something behind me, and it was
a lot of noise, and I turned

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around and looked and there was this
female big foot on all fours running at

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me. Oh man, well,
I didn't I didn't have my typical side

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arm that I usually carry with me. And you know, I don't want

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to heart one. I don't want
to have to shoot one. But if

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it means it dying or me dying, I'm gonna shoot, then I'm gonna

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get out of dodge quick as I
can. But she ran up probably within

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she kind of barling out that brush
and and god, probably within twenty yards

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of me. It's probably around sixty
feet away. And I hallowed at her

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and she stopped, and when she
did that, she just kind of stayed

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on all fours and just looked at
me. I started backing up and talking

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to her and telling her, hey, I ain't trying to cause no trouble.

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Just leave me alone and I'll leave
you alone. We won't have to

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get into an argument about this.
And I backed up away from her,

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and she finally kind of untensed up
and just turned around and walked out on

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all fours, back over into the
brush. And soon as I got far

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enough away, I didn't think that
she would hear me run off. I

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took off running and got down to
the house and didn't say nothing to my

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wife or the other lady. They
got back probably ten minutes after I got

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back to the house, and we
carried in groceries and my wife kind of

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looked at me funny. She said, why are you sweating so much?

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I said, I can't lie to
my wife. That's not a good thing

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to ever do, and finally told
her, and she just kind of looked

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at me real funny and said,
why do you take chances? And I

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said, it's just you know,
it's just me, honey, you know

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that. And we kind of after
it at that, and I didn't take

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any more chance, so I stay
away from you know, I tried not

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to get into that situation again.
I'm curious. And you may have said

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and I may have missed it,
but this was a pretty much up close

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look at this female. Right.
Can you describe for people the appearance that

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you saw. Can you describe what
she looked like? Yeah, she was

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I would say she was down all
fours and she had long arms. Her

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back wasn't arched, you know,
she kept it straight back. She was

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hair covered, but you could see, you know, her breast singing down

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from what I was looking at.
She was hair covered from top of her

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head down. She was a sandy
blonde caller. You could tell it.

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She was just maybe like a twenty
something, you know, like a twenty

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one or twenty two year old girl. And and she wasn't big and bulky,

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you know, like the males that
I have seen. She wasn't like

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that. She was kind of slim
and just like I said, just like

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a twenty one or twenty year old
girl that you know, you would run

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into out in a you know,
out of the grocery store or something of

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that nature, at the library or
whatever. Sure, I understand, but

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her hips were wide. She may
have had a young one already. I

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don't know, because I never saw
any young ones, you know, back

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there. But she definitely didn't like
the idea of me being around. She

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just kind of, you know,
it was in tent on getting me out

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of there. She didn't really want
a confrontation, but she didn't want me

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there either, right. You know. She had a long hair that off

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the top of her head that went
down onto her bike a little bit and

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it's kind of hung down on sides, off her shoulders, big long hands.

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The skin on her hands were not
dark, they were kind of like

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a light brown. Her face was
a light brown, and she had more

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human type features on her face because
her nose wasn't It's kind of like you

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take the end of your nose and
just kind of like smash it down a

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little bit, and that's the way
her nose look. You know, her

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eyes were probably a couple of inches
maybe three inches between her eyes. I

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mean, she just looked like a
normal young big foot. I mean,

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that's that's all I can say.
I mean, there's not really you know,

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there's nothing you can compare them to
in the human world because they don't

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look like so her face. You
know, whenever someone talk, you get

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these images in your head of what
I mean, I have images in my

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head or what these things could look
like in the face, and I have

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a like a you know how the
gorilla, you know, the from his

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nose down his mouth and jaws kind
of jut out a little bit, and

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they have that large upper lip,
and they have long canines. And I

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doubt you saw her teeth, but
or did you, Yeah, I saw

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her teeth, they were just like
the typical big teeth that you would see

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on like a horse. But do
you know what I'm talking about, how

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the gorilla's mouth kind of protruded,
protrudes, But it's not like that,

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is it? No, it's it's
they don't have a big long it's not

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a protruding mouth. It's it's it's
flat like a human. There is a

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little bit more space between where their
nose is and their lips are. But

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they are kind of like a flat
set of lips. I mean, they're

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not big, old, puffy lips
or anything like that. They're just tin

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And you know, she had some
wrinkling on her face, but not a

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lot, not like the big males
that I've seen. Right, How about

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her head and neck? It is
there no neck or does you know the

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shoulders just come up to the head. It looks like they're it looks like

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almost like if you just if you
would draw like scenery and just put like

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a little heel on a in the
middle of a picture, that's pretty much

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weave. Their head looks like it
just like it comes up and then goes

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over and then down the other side. And it's because of their muscle structure

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on the that comes up from their
shoulders and it goes up and it connects

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to some of their head on the
back. I understand exactly. I'm sorry

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to be detailed in some of these
questions. And I know you probably get

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asked this a lot, but people
listening are gonna want They're just gonna want

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to know what. All right,
Well, and you say her skin was

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brown. I get a lot of
reports that there that their skin is gray.

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You think that's an age thing.
No, because I've seen all the

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five big foot that I've seen,
I've only seen one that had gray skin.

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I've seen him have a dark chocolate, tight skin. I think it

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may not. I don't think it's
too much in their age because some of

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the ones that I've seen that had
a dark chocolate they had long they had

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gray hair in there, you know, on their body. Okay, typically

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you know, you know age,
but you know I've only like I said,

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I've only seen the one in in
you know, out of the five

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that I've seen that had a gray
skin. Okay, I got you,

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all right, Well, I guess
we don't want to stay on this appearance

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thing too long. So and your
wife was a little upset with you that

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you were, but you just had
to go look, look, didn't you.

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It's kind of in my blood,
you know what I mean about that.

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I mean, that's that's all I
can describe it as it's in my

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blood. I have to go look, right, I understand. I understand

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that. Well, moving forward,
tell us, Uh, that's two encounters

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down. Tell us uh, tell
us how it's progressed since then. Well,

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it has kind of reinvigorated me because
for a long time I got had

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gotten to the point where it was
like, nobody believes anything that you know,

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they don't believe anything about big Foot. That's it's all hoax. And

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I've heard that for so long,
you know. It made it to a

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point where he's like, I'm just
ready to give up, you know,

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trying to let people know about these
things and that they can be dangerous.

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It is, you know, people
just look at you like you're crazy,

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you don't know what you're talking about. Three this thing, you might want

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to check yourself into it. A
singles out. So I was actually proved

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that once in my life. Oh
my gosh, seeing those two in North

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Carolina really reinvigorated me on looking for
big foot. And my buddy said,

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hey, why don't you come up
to my house and you know they're out

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here. You can you know,
you can hear them and stuff like that.

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And we went out and an investigation
to his house. And I've seen

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two, yeah, two of his
house. Actually both of them were completely

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different colored, uh different sized.
The first one I sent his house was

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probably only eight foot tall seven d
eight foot tall. It actually had a

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belly on them, and most of
them don't have a belly, you know.

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Uh, like it had been eating
real good, you know, and

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it or maybe it had gotten to
that midlife to the midlife crisis or whatever,

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and it had started, you know, getting fat around its mid section

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and stuff, you know like we
do. So it was, like I

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said, between seven eight foot doll. It was a dark chocolate hair.

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It actually had hair on its face, well maybe now on its face,

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but had hair that hung down from
a right around a chin area and along

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as jaw run. Its skin color
was a dark dark chocolate. It just

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kind of, you know, it
just kind of walked upon us, looked

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at us, and left. It
just turned around. It all just three

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people ain't worried about that, just
said heck with them leave And then one

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night we went to my buddy's house
and we sit out there and in our

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investigation. Ain't ain't like everybody else, you know, we don't try to

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go out and find them. But
we don't go out. We don't have

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to go out and find them,
because they come to watch us. We'll

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cook out on an open fire pike
and take steaks and cut them up into

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a little chunks and throwings and potatoes
and onions and green peppers and whatever else

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we want to cook up in a
loonum pall pan and we'll sit there and

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eat. We'll sit there and talk
about, you know whatever. They seemed

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to come up and investigate us and
see what we're doing. We had done

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that one night it had My wife
looked at me, some honey, I'm

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tired, I'm ready to home.
And it was probably, oh, I'd

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say one thirty in the morning when
he was leaving, left my buddy's place

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and went out. I was actually
had gotten out and was locking his gate

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to his driveway up was standing and
heard something and had a flashlight with me

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because everybody has trouble seeing him dark, you know, trying to put a

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lock together and looked up and there
was a nine footter or better, I

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would have to say it was over
and well over nine foot, because it

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was bigger than than the eight footer
I saw when I was I was a

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young key had this thing just stood
there, turned looked at me, and

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I shined a flashlight on it,
and it just stood there. And finally

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it to back around across the road
his driveway, which is a gravel driveway,

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and it took two steps and it
was over the side of the bank,

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and I heard her walk off,
and I just got back in the

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truck and looked at my wife and
I said, you should have been out

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there. You just kind of looked
at me, and so, what do

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you mean? I said, the
big one was up here. You just

410
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.279
had to rub it in, didn't
you. That's the only time I get

411
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.720
a rubbing thing in the rest of
the time. She keeps me, I

412
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.720
got you. But we came home
and we talked about it all the way

413
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.759
home, and that was the last
one I've seen. I we just haven't

414
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:52.640
done any investigations lately, and I
haven't been going all over all over the

415
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.920
country like you with you know,
my job and stuff, you know,

416
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.279
just haven't talked to a lot of
people, and so that's pretty much where

417
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.839
I'm at right now. I'm starting
to get back out there on the road

418
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:08.880
and talking to people and getting more
reports of big foot because of the YouTube

419
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:15.440
channel. Can people call me with
reports them? Yeah, I would suspect

420
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:20.720
that you have a better rapport with
people who have had encounter since you have

421
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:24.240
yourself. See, I haven't,
and so I think when people send me

422
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:28.880
stories and stuff, I'd like to
have that connection with them, but I

423
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.240
just don't. And I'm not gonna
lie and make up a story just to

424
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:37.720
grow this is. People take this
serious, people like you who have actually

425
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.799
seen one, and I think y'all
can sniff the fakers out, and so

426
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:45.000
I don't even I wouldn't even try
it. And so as you interview people,

427
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:50.440
you probably have a good back and
forth in a just a natural kinship

428
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.440
with these people. I tell you
what drew me to your I had had

429
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:58.720
several people tell me you need to
listen to what he's doing on his YouTube

430
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.200
channel. And if you're you're you're
in truck, I don't know what you

431
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:06.480
listen to as you're driving and stuff, you probably have a chance to I

432
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.319
would think YouTube would be hard to
listen to while as a driver because you

433
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:13.680
have to keep skipping through ads and
all that crap. What do you normally

434
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.599
listen to? Do you listen to
the radio or podcasts or what do you

435
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:22.480
what do you normally listen to?
Well, I typically listen to a serious

436
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:27.759
x M. I'm I'm an actual
Christian minister. I listened to, you

437
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.400
know, the Christian channels a lot, and I you know, I'll listen

438
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:36.079
to talk radio and stuff like that. But typically I usually listen to the

439
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.920
serious XM radio and you know,
and I got CD in the truck.

440
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:43.880
Sometimes guys will get on there and
they'll start talking, or they'll holler at

441
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.759
you and want to talk. And
I do that too, But my life

442
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.519
is rather boring when you're driving the
truck. That's That's the only thing I

443
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.079
could sell you, kind of boring. I was kind of using that to

444
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.799
make a point because I said in
a video back, I don't know two

445
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.920
three videos ago that you know as
that create videos like you and I do,

446
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:07.039
we don't really have time to watch
a lot of YouTube. I know

447
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.320
that I've gotten comments from truck drivers
saying, oh man, your videos are

448
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:14.880
fun. To listen to in the
truck and stuff. But I always wonder,

449
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.239
man, do they just have to
sit there and endure those stupid ads

450
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.719
or what. What drew me to
your channel was first a couple of people

451
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:28.280
had told me about it through emails
or in the comments. And you know,

452
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.679
we don't again, we don't have
a lot of time to just watch

453
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.119
YouTube all day, but I mean
I would if I could. It's not

454
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.320
that I don't like it. I
just, you know, there's some things

455
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.239
you can't do while you're working.
But I went over and I wound up,

456
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.199
and I think I just got through
your I think I've listened to your

457
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:50.480
whole library, and it's fascinating to
me how you tell these stories because they

458
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.679
feel like, you know, my
stuff is kind of a production. Even

459
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:59.440
though I'm reading people's real accounts.
I'm paying attention to, you know,

460
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:05.119
mu music and scenery and all that
fluffy stuff because I'm trying to do an

461
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:10.280
entertainment channel basically. But the way
you tell these stories, it's almost like

462
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:15.119
it is like you have a kinship
with the people who have sent them in.

463
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:20.320
And some of those stories you'll follow
up on. And there's one in

464
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.800
particular where you're talking about, well, they had to kill this bigfoot.

465
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.559
Now, I don't want you to
tell the story here because I want people

466
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:29.920
to go listen to it on your
channel, but the pup. But my

467
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.760
question is, are you, through
the years, and especially lately with your

468
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:38.760
channel, are you seeing a lot
of people taking these things on, shooting

469
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.960
them and trying to run them off
or killing them if they have to.

470
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:49.719
Well, over the years, I
have seen quite a few people get frustrated

471
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:54.719
with these creatures and does start shooting
them. The problem with that is if

472
00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:00.559
you don't kill the whole plan and
I've seen it happen. Well I didn't

473
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.239
see it, but I've been told
about it. If you don't kill the

474
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.800
whole clan, whatever one that you
didn't kill, the other ones come and

475
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:14.519
take revenge. I mean it's like
there's there's a movie that had Patrick Swayze

476
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.800
in it. He was a detective
in Detroit or something like that. The

477
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:24.079
mob was in on the movie.
They killed his younger brother, and at

478
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:30.840
the end of the movie, the
whole family comes to Detroit and starts taking

479
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:37.679
on the mob and they're shooting these
guys with foes and shotguns and all this

480
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:43.360
stuff, and that's basically the way
the big Foot do it. I mean,

481
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.079
if you start a fight with somebody
and it's a fair fight, and

482
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:51.239
you get in the fist fight here
in stay Westginia, your family stays out

483
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:55.920
at it. But if the other
guy does something and does something to harm

484
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.639
you or harm someone in your family, basically is the half Fields and McCoys

485
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.440
is with the way I looked at
it, the way I found that it

486
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.960
happened. Two families comes to fight
and they're they're going to do whatever they

487
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:13.440
have. Yeah, that movie was
called Next of Ken Patrick Swayze and Liam

488
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.880
Neeson was his brother. His name
was Briar, And I remember that movie

489
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:22.960
really well because I love that name, and I wanted I wanted to name

490
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.599
our last son Briar because I just
love that name. I thought, man,

491
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.639
what an original name. But we
had a we had a little girl,

492
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:36.079
so I couldn't name her Briar.
So I know exactly what you're talking

493
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.280
about. They have a real it's
a Next of Ken kind of mentality these

494
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:43.840
big Foot troops have, isn't it. Yes, yes, very much so

495
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:49.400
looking forward or you say you're you're
kind of thinking about getting back out and

496
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.199
doing getting boots on the ground and
doing a little more of that. I

497
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:58.519
would imagine with all this mess going
on with this virus and everybody short on

498
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.159
stuff, just thinking logically, you're
probably gonna pick up more work, aren't

499
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:08.199
you. M Yeah, I mean
we do a lot of I changed companies

500
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:16.320
here recently and we haul nothing but
plastic plants. It's fun to me.

501
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:22.280
And will we do a lot of
doing, you know, across up in

502
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:28.320
the Northeast and down the southeast,
all these plastic cost to places, you

503
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.840
know, and make plastic ports or
parts for four wheelers or whatever, you

504
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:37.079
know, whatever plastic's got to be
made. And we're picking up a lot

505
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.320
of work right now. And it's
it's been a busy time force because of

506
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:46.599
this virus. You know, other
companies are cutting back on doing things and

507
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:52.679
because of this virus, and it
seems like everything that's plastic is just taking

508
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.960
a big boon. Yeah. So
yeah, I'm gonna be busy, but

509
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.679
I'm still going to do this on
the weekend, I'll say, so that

510
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.159
maybe it won't cut into your plans
to get out there. Do you have

511
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:12.119
a specific area that you're gonna be
investigating or do you use your contacts and

512
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.639
go visit their places. How has
this worked out that way for you people

513
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.800
you've met? Yeah, okay,
yeah, that's that's like the lady I

514
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.880
did the live interview with in North
Carolina. You know, we did an

515
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.760
investigation down the air and went looking
and went and found quite a quite a

516
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.519
bunch of markers around her home across
the road from her house and everything.

517
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.920
Wentn't looking around and found a bunch
of markers of Bigfoot, you know,

518
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:45.800
like hides and xs and tree bows
and tree twists, and found a footprint.

519
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:51.119
But I'm not the type that goes
out and cast you know, the

520
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.079
footprints and stuff like that. I
just never never think to do that.

521
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:59.880
That's something I should probably do,
but I just I just don't think of

522
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.079
about a day, you know,
I don't think of them that way.

523
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:05.639
I just I know they're there.
My thing is is, you know,

524
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.920
I want to get the information out
there to people that these things are not

525
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:15.400
all nice. They can be very
aggressive. They will kill you if if

526
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:21.639
they get a chance to. Actually
I get about sixty percent nice stories and

527
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.199
then the other forty percent or either
you know, there's some nefarious intent with

528
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:31.039
the big Foot or something else.
But speaking on those footcastings, I wonder

529
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:36.639
you know. I put up a
video I guess yesterday and the title is

530
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:39.880
the title of it was stay anonymous, because I've done a lot of thinking

531
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.840
about this. And when I first
started doing this about a year ago,

532
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:45.440
you know, I told people,
I said, I'll put you name in

533
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:49.800
it if you want to or not, and I kind of came to the

534
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:53.119
and I haven't ever given anybody's full
name. I just I never felt comfortable

535
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:57.880
to in that. And if other
people do, that's fine. I'm not.

536
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.360
I just I'm gonna do my thing
and everybody else is going to do

537
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.000
their thing. And I haven't really
picked up on what you do, and

538
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:09.760
it doesn't matter. But speaking of
the cast I think here's and I'm curious

539
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:13.519
what you think about it. I'm
gonna tell you mine and then you tell

540
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:19.400
me yours. I think as far
as bigfoot investigations go, there are people

541
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.400
like you, and I know a
dozen guys like you who love to go

542
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:28.760
into the woods, namely because they
just love being outdoors. And I kind

543
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.880
of pick up from you you're that
way, But to go into the woods

544
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:36.119
and enjoy the outdoors with a mission
to be looking for something, whether you're

545
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.920
squirrel hunting, turkey hunting like you
and I were talking about earlier, or

546
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:43.960
hunting for signs of bigfoot, or
even looking for an encounter. You can

547
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:47.719
do all that stuff, and the
people that do it are the usually the

548
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.559
nicest, most friendly, happy people
I've ever met. I'm just telling you

549
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:59.760
there, I've had such good experiences
with investigators like yourself, and I know

550
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.840
you hadn't been able to do a
lot lately, but still deep at heart

551
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:07.199
you're an investigator. Here's what I'm
getting out. I tried to think.

552
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:12.840
You know, bigfoot really came on
the scene in nineteen sixty seven when mister

553
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.840
Giblin and mister Patterson got that footage
and then it became really you know,

554
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.599
it was out there to the public
and people were and then with the onset

555
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.400
of the Internet, it became very
popular, you know, with these with

556
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:29.320
our you know, little YouTube channels
and the websites and all that stuff.

557
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:36.840
But really, really, the the
idea of bigfoot has really not advanced much

558
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:43.960
since in nineteen sixty seven because it's
still considered a crypted, a mythical creature,

559
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:50.679
or an undiscovered species, and thousands
of tracks have been cast. Thousands

560
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:55.000
of tree structures have been you know, photographed on and on and on,

561
00:42:55.039 --> 00:43:01.480
all those tree twists, you know
would not recordings and even videos of people

562
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:06.480
who say this is a bigfoot.
But the cause I'm just using that word

563
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:12.519
because I can't think of another one
has not really moved much since Gimmelin and

564
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:17.599
Patterson got that got that video.
Bigfoot is still a huge mystery, and

565
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:22.079
so I kind of understand why,
you know, why would you stop in

566
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:27.679
cast attract It's like a I'm not
saying it's a waste of time, but

567
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:29.719
if it was me, I would
feel like, oh, I'm not gonna

568
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.480
waste my time doing that. I
mean, there's a bunch of cast already

569
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.239
out there. It's not going to
advance the cause, which takes us to

570
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:40.519
people. And I'm asking you this
because you you have you and I have

571
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:45.880
similar channels. In other words,
we tell people's stories. I don't think

572
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:53.840
that someone attaching their name to a
story advances the cause of again causes probably

573
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:59.559
the wrong word, but advances the
theory or cause a bigfoot one bit.

574
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:04.199
I think what it does. On
the other hand, I think it could

575
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.599
be to see these people never know
who's going to stumble on one of these.

576
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.360
If you give your full name,
man, it could cause all kinds

577
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:16.199
of trouble in your life. And
I I've gotten to where I've discouraged people

578
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.719
from doing that. If you want
to tell your first name, that's fine.

579
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.039
So you can show your buddies,
hey see he's telling my story or

580
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.280
the guy that had to encounter with
him, here's our story, you know,

581
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.119
and so they can identify with their
friends and say, hey, listen

582
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.679
to this. But just to put
it out there to the world. And

583
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:40.639
my opinion is I think people should
really think about that. I'm not saying

584
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.280
they shouldn't do it, So everybody
listening, I'm not saying they should not

585
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:51.639
do it. I'm just saying you
need to think about it real hard before

586
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.400
you put your full name out there. And I'm wondering what your feeling is

587
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:59.559
on that. Do you have any
or can you expound on that? Yill.

588
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.599
Just like on my channel, there's
there's people, but I get the

589
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:08.440
person's full name. But here's the
thing. Back when I was doing all

590
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:13.960
the investigations and when I was able
able to go out at any time at

591
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:20.039
night or you know, or or
chase down a story from somebody I had,

592
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.360
you know, I got their names, and you know, these other

593
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:27.800
people that would before I, before
I started YouTube, you would associate the

594
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:32.599
person's name with the story about the
big foot, about their encounter with a

595
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:38.000
big foot, and if you put
that name out there, I'd actually seen

596
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:44.599
a guy lose his job and his
home because of it. And this was

597
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:49.960
something that he'd seen a big foot
back when he was a kid out squirrel

598
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.519
hunting one day and he got a
hold of me, and I put his

599
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:58.800
name with the story, and you
know, kind of associated it with other

600
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:02.679
people that I who had seen big
foot, and I guess that name kind

601
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:07.760
of got his name got back to
someone that he worked for, and they've

602
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:13.599
fired him because of it. That's
exactly what I'm talking about. Called him

603
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:15.840
right in the office and said,
you know, I heard that you saw

604
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:23.239
this mythical creature and I can't have
you associated with that, and since I've

605
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:27.760
got to let you guy. And
he lost a real good paying job.

606
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.880
Because he losing his job, he
lost his home and that put him and

607
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.719
his wife and took full of kids
out on the street. And he had

608
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.559
it tough for for three or four
years. And you know, he said

609
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:44.000
I wished that. I would never
have told you, you know, because

610
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.079
I check on people that give me
a story. You know, I get

611
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.760
their phone numbers, I call them
and you know, see how they're doing,

612
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.760
and see if the big foot are
still coming around their home and stuff

613
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.719
like that. You know, I
care about these people because, like you

614
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:04.159
said earlier, you probably get sixty
or forty you know of good stories being

615
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.280
On the other hand, I get
probably eighty five percent bad stories about big

616
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.440
footing fifteen good, right. But
the thing of it is is, you

617
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.800
know, I care about these people
and their well being, and that's why

618
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:20.639
I never give a person's name.
I don't care if they tell me to

619
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:24.039
put their full name or their first
name out there. No, I'm not

620
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:30.320
doing it because I've seen the consequences
of it first hand. I'm so glad

621
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:35.800
you said that because and again I
don't think you have a cause or I

622
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.719
have a cause. But I don't
ever want to steer anyone wrong so that

623
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:45.079
I am able to create a good
video and make a little change. It's

624
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.880
not right. It's just not right
to do that. And it's different than

625
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.039
you know. There are other cases
where you don't want to you don't want

626
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:58.360
to lose your identity. You're a
pastor, and you know that if a

627
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:02.000
man follows Christ, do not,
in any case want to deny Christ.

628
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:07.800
It doesn't it doesn't negate the Gospel
if you do. If you do deny

629
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:13.480
Christ, Jesus already paid for every
sin you're ever going to make. He

630
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.960
did it with Peter. But you
want to display a posture of something that

631
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.880
you love and care about, and
you don't want to let those things go,

632
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:25.679
like your faith, or your family
or your country. But Bigfoot's not

633
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.320
worth it. It's just not worth
all the upheaval in your life that could

634
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:36.480
be, that could come down the
pike. And so I'll put that video

635
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.800
out. A guy had written a
story about a guy in the UK and

636
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:43.559
how he had been harassed all his
life and he finally had to leave the

637
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.599
town. It was so bad he
had to leave the town. And this

638
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.920
wasn't even a Bigfoot thing. It
was a kind of a UFO story.

639
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.920
So I'm so glad to hear you
say that. And I don't blame any

640
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:57.880
other channels for asking people to give
their names. If that's the way they

641
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.719
want to run their channel, that's
their business, and not gonna get in

642
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.639
their business. But I just want
to tell people before you do, just

643
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.239
think it through real hard. And
it sounds like you agree with me.

644
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:12.519
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. You
know, like I said, I've seen

645
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.599
and this guy that I was telling
you about, you know, he didn't

646
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:21.719
know me from Adam or Eve.
He you know, he confided in me

647
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:28.400
with his story and all idea was
tell two other guys they hunt for Bigfoot.

648
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.639
In fact, one of those guys
was my mentor that that taught me

649
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:37.159
about, you know, what Bigfoot
does and other things, and and showed

650
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:43.199
me a lot of stuff that Bigfoot
does. He never told nobody, but

651
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:46.920
the other guy did, right,
and it got back around and the other

652
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:52.960
guy wasn't even in the same town
or what wasn't even the same furthest face,

653
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.760
But he got back around to the
guy's boss and he lost his job

654
00:49:55.840 --> 00:50:00.599
and lost his home, and it
almost cost him his marriag and you know,

655
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.519
they'd have been a divorce, and
you know, he you know,

656
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.639
he may have lost his kids in
the process of it. People have asked

657
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.480
me, well, you know,
who is this person that you're talking about.

658
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.320
You don't get their name right,
I mean, I don't mean to

659
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:22.000
be mean, but they have confidence
in me keeping their name and their career

660
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.960
safe and their family safe. Because
what if a guy goes out fishing with

661
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.960
his buddies one night and him and
his buddy seen his big foot and he

662
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:35.599
doesn't go home and tell his wife
about it. Well he, you know,

663
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.000
six months or eight months down the
road and he tells me about the

664
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:43.239
story, or he calls me,
you know, he finds my channel on

665
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:47.880
YouTube, or or he calls you
or anybody else that does this on YouTube,

666
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.440
and he calls him and says,
you know, hey, this is

667
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.719
what happened to me and my buddies. Well, these guys are out fishing,

668
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.719
they're not drinking, you know,
not don't doing anything wrong. But

669
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:05.760
you know, somebody puts their name
out there, and all of a sudden,

670
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.800
there, you know, this gets
back to their wife and the wife's

671
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:14.280
life. There's no such things big, but you lied to me, you

672
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:17.239
and this is gonna cause a big
argument, and it might drive a wedge

673
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:21.400
in the family, you know,
between them. You know, I've got

674
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.079
to look at that, you know, I've got that something like that happens.

675
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:29.639
I've got it on my mind and
it's on my heart. I wouldn't

676
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.800
want somebody putting my name out there. You know, if it's me,

677
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.360
that's fine, I'll put my name
out. But if people don't, don't

678
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:44.039
want their name out there. And
I did it anyway because you know,

679
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:46.360
like I said, I get their
first and last name, get their telephone

680
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:52.960
number. It's that's a lot of
identifying information for someone. It gets back

681
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.559
to their wife, and their wife
doesn't believe them, tells us a big

682
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:59.440
rift in the family. They get
the boors, you know, the guys

683
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.239
gotta you know, he doesn't have
his kids, doesn't have the woman that

684
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.679
he fell in love with anymore because
she didn't believe it. That would be

685
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:12.159
heavily on me, on me.
You have a conscience, don't you.

686
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.840
Yeah, yeah, I have.
I have a lot of concern for other

687
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:20.039
people. And I guess you know
if that's conscience, you know, that's

688
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.440
that's what it is. Well,
listen, we're we're a a little bit

689
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.960
over an hour now, so let's
uh, I always ask everybody. First,

690
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.599
let me say, I just got
a notification from your YouTube channel that

691
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:37.440
your video cannaan Valley, Bigfoot or
Messy Boogers just got uploaded. So after

692
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.840
y'all listen to this goal. Go
to Old bears Den a bigfoot channel,

693
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:45.400
and watch this latest video and check
out all his videos. But what I

694
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.840
was going to say is I kind
of give everybody h I ask you you

695
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.880
have any parting words or anybody on
this topic before we before we sign off.

696
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:58.239
The only thing that I would like
to say is bigfoot is a creature

697
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:04.159
that we don't know what exactly they
are, but they live out in the

698
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:07.320
wild. They live out in the
woods, you know, deserts, places

699
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:13.360
that most people don't go. The
best thing I can tell you is is

700
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.719
have your head on a swivel,
watch your back, and be very careful

701
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:20.599
of these creatures. If you come
up on them, don't give them a

702
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.840
reason to attack you. You don't
stand a chance. Just be safe other

703
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:28.519
people. I mean, I'd love
to hear your story about seeing a big

704
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.519
foot. I don't want to hear
somebody else a story that my buddy got

705
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:36.199
killed by a big foot. Yeah, and this is coming from a guy

706
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:42.840
who's seen aggressive behavior and has five
encounters of his own. He's seen how

707
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.840
big these things are, he's seen
how powerful and fast they are, and

708
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:50.559
he's got a little idea of their
demeanor, So take his word for it.

709
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.519
Investigators, you know, be careful. I would listen to what the

710
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:59.079
man said, Well, listen.
I appreciate you so much. I know

711
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:00.719
it took how long. We've been
trying to put this together. For a

712
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:05.960
month and a half. I'd get
sick, and then you'd get sick,

713
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:09.239
and then my wife got sick,
and finally today I just called him and

714
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:12.239
I said, how about right now? And he goes, let's do it.

715
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.000
So we just did it. Thank
you so much for doing this with

716
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:20.320
me. It's a huge I considered
a huge favor to me. And before

717
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:24.880
we go, we talked about your
Discord link is does it have a name

718
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:30.840
that people can search on Discord?
It's just Old Bear's Dinner Bigfoot. Okay,

719
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:37.079
if you go to my channel,
there's actually a link for the Discord

720
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:40.360
going to download the app for you. I'm gonna go to your channel and

721
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:45.239
copy that link and put it in
the description below of this video. And

722
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:50.400
I'm also going to link your YouTube
channel first, your Discord channel second.

723
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.400
And I think that should get everybody
all the information they need to get over

724
00:54:54.760 --> 00:55:01.440
And I highly recommend you go listen
to his stories because are great they're great,

725
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:07.519
and I'm uh, it's when I
get to listen, it's like I

726
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.719
can't stop, I can't turn it
off. I have to, and then

727
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:14.519
it's hard not to go to the
next video if I'm busy. But he's

728
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:19.920
telling great stories, true stories,
good stories that he's getting from drivers and

729
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.079
from people that he knows through his
discord channel and friends and you know,

730
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.880
buddies he's come up hunting with and
and all those kind of things. So

731
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.480
y'all go check them out one more
time. Thank you again for coming on,

732
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:35.760
and guys, thanks for listening this
far and I appreciate you and we

733
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:37.039
will see you on the next video. Thanks

