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All right, we are back for
the world's most popular and famous podcast about

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video games, the Aero Pointing Down
Podcast. I am your host, Ryan

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Davis, and I am joined once
again by TV's Jeff Gershman Houdy High.

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Hello, Jeff, thanks for coming
out and joining us for this in your

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own living room again. Thanks for
joining us in your living room. I

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could be asleep right now finding the
time to come out of your bedroom.

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Well, do you have a cold? You should? You should? Yeah,

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you have a cold in your house
is again chili and you're wearing short

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pants. I will have a fever, so I'm actually hot. You give

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me a fee much like our other
guest, Alex Navarro. Alex has going

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it's not going too bad. I'm
not sick. I have no sickness soon.

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Oh dear, Yeah, I'm fantastic. I have no fever. So

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apparently everyone is listening to this stupid
stupid podcasts. What do you guys?

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Why right? What do you guys
think about about this development? If for

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those folks at home, apparently the
airpoint Down podcast has rocketed to the tops

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of the iTunes charts. That's right. Uh, we were number one in

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the UK, number two in the
US Big in Columbia, and I like

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to say, I feel like I
speak for the group here and saying that

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that's fucking ridiculous, so absurd.
Uh, well, you know it's I

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think it just clearly shows that people
have a desire, that they have a

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need that's not being filled by the
podcasts that are out there right now,

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and they're just not getting that high
level discourse about beverages. People want to

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know about Gatorade and various flavors.
Yeah, uh no, no gatorade on

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the show this week of Unfortunate No, not this week. It was not.

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I bought it. I bought a
grip of Gatorade a few days ago.

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It was on sale right eighty eight
cents a bottle, eight cents a

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bottle for Gatorade, Tiger and G
two. So I stalked up and I

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think that I think I scared the
lady because I was buying fifteen bottles of

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Gatorade and then like five cases of
soda. Nice, you're gonna go run

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a marathon? Yeah? I like
I started, and like the rest were

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all like bags of chips and stuff. Is like the most horrific shopping trip

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in a long time, and I
actually okay, it was the most awesome

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shopping trip in a long time.
A bacon right there, that is large

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bottle of lube. Yeah. No, I felt like I was gonna have

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to like make up some kind of
story about like, oh, kids soccer

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game, gotta get his gatorade.
I'm like that whatever, extra large tub

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of light miracle whip. Yeah,
you know what I gotta tell you.

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I was promised gatorade. That's the
only reason I came back at all.

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Don't come here for the discourse with
you, assholes. You came here to

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gatorade. You came here because I
yelled in my phone podcasts, which I

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assume meant gid. No, that's
not what that means at all. Oh

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we are, however, Oh we
have a beverage, Jeff. Jeff and

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I are both enjoying a little bit
of Cactus Cooler, which is a delicious

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beverage available primarily to us in the
Los Angeles area. Yeah, I've never

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seen it elsewhere. Not available nationwide. It was available in select stores in

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Arizona, New Mexico, I found. I think I've heard that it is

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a Southwest thing. Yeah, Southwest
thing. So I last night as people

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might have noticed The Air Pointing Down
blog has been kind of dead this past

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week. My apologies. That's largely
because I was on vacation. I took

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a little trip down to the Los
Angeles, the Greater Los Angeles area.

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You know, when you don't have
a job, I don't think you can

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really call it vacation the south Land. It's a vacation away from the norm.

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It's an escape. I stayed in
Fullerton at a nice Windham hotel.

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Well wow, there was a class, there was a feather pillow top on

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the bed. And then I took
my special lady friend to to Disneyland for

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her birthday. So that was my
week. So I went to La a

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couple of weeks ago. I had
a good time. Did you enjoy the

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southern California? Do you have a
nice time down there? I did,

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because it was a very short trip. Good. It was down Wednesday,

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went to the parks on Thursday,
and then drove back up Friday. That's

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good, nice and tight. You
should You should never be in southern California

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for more than three days. Ever, I agree. I agree with this

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entirely because I always think to myself, I could totally live in la.

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I like, you know, there's
a lot of stuff going on down there.

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It's all sorts of fun craziness,
and you know, the entertainment industry

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is there and all, and hey, maybe maybe I could give that a

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go. Give that a shot,
give it a shot. Get out there,

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go some auditions, yea. Do
some work shopping, Yeah, you

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just get into it. But work
workshop, some new material, A lot

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of mics down there, you know, some good coffee house. Yeah,

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wow, we go shop our screenplays. I actually did go to a fancy,

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expensive pizza place in Hollywood on my
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Maybe you've heard of it. CEPK
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it around here, those little thing. No, it was an inside thing.

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It was it was. It was
a pizzeria Moza, which I guess

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it's it's something fancy and special.
I paid like eighteen dollars for a personal

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pizza, and it seems like exactly
the type of place where I should have

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my my Macintosh laptop out talking about
my screenplay with someone. Yeah, it's

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a rom com. Matthew McConaughey is
very interested. They're talking to Kate Hudson,

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his personal trainer showed it to him
for me. I hear he's locked

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up in a bunch of dramatis from
here to eternity. Though. Yeah,

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a lot of buzz uh but so
yeah, that's that was so so yeah

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more than three days, Alex.
I agree with you because I think,

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oh, I could totally live here. But then by about day five,

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the air quality of Los Angeles,
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I'm not to disparage all people who
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and but they also suck. But
they a lot of them really really suck.

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A lot of LA just sucks people
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see the ultimate like La Vanity plated
one was on a Porsche as we were

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leaving Hollywood. That said, I
sue you great, h that's delicious.

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Way way to be a minor character
in a late eighties but way to be

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a minor character in Beverly Hills Cop
two. Way to be the guy who

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gets his car ruined in the action
movie where someone has to fuck Counter Reeves

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comes flying up on a bus beside
you on the freeway and then he jumps

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into your car and then he wrecks
it. Yeah, that's how he is.

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But like right before it happens,
it shows you on the phone being

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really abusive, so everyone gets the
idea that you're evil. Yeah, so

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it's like it's like, oh,
well he was a jerk anyway. Exactly.

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Yeah, that's exactly. Even when
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story, he's still screaming into his
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standing in the middle of the freeway, pointing down the down the road.

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Yeah. So so yeah, that
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California trip in a nutshell. But
now I'm back, baby, Welcome,

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welcome back. But you came back
just in time because I, like I

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said before, caught cold. You
missed us. We went and saw Cobra.

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Oh yeah, I was actually in
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back in town last night, and
I knew I could have gone and seen

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Cobra, but I just didn't have
have it in me. Jeff, you

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want to you guys want to talk
about that at all. Let's talk about

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Cobra for a minute. Yeah.
So this is a subject that deserves a

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lot of discussion. I think.
So Cobra is the greatest movie ever made.

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It's up there, up there as
the greatest. Yeah, and uh

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we caught win that they were showing
it in San Francisco from one Matt Rory

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who said, Hey, you guys
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you know eighties action movie night,
like you know, every Sunday they watch

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a movie like okay, yeah,
it's totally cool. So we go down

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this in the mission in this place
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movie theater. It's more like a
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they let people in there and then
they they show Cobra and then they don't

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really care if you bring in burritos
or booze or whatever. Yeah, explain

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bar without a liquor license. So
the place is obviously bar. It has

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a bar in it. Yeah,
there's like like something you can lean on

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bar physical bar. Yeah, But
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sort of rented out by these kind
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the space as sort of like a
performance type space, like they're doing a

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play there of the Ten Commandments I
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starring the cast of Friends. Yeah, that type of thing. So it's

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a just it is a place that
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operating it as a bar. Yeah. Continue, So we get there and

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they're showing a bunch of YouTube clips
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this projection screen. What sort of
is it? Like, It's like it's

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like the Italian Stallion trailer and and
like every regun shot from the Deathwish series.

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Yeah, you know, stuff,
stuff that fits into the theme.

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And it's not like like dudes fallen
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not like warm up for a Carrot
Top show, No, nothing, nothing

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quite like that. And then it
didn't it didn't dawn on me until like

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right before they started that the people
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be speaking into microphones through the entire
movie. Yeah, which had the potential

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to be really truly terrible because,
as Rory said, like every time he's

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ever seen and every time I've ever
seen it, anytime anyone tries to do

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the mystery science theater thing when they
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but almost always goes just horrifically bad. Well, I think the thing that

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a few people really given up credit
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all of that, oh yeah,
and then pair it all down to only

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the best stuff. I'm sure.
I'm sure they override every single one of

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those today. So this had the
more of the feeling of like they had

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not seen the movie ever or at
least in a very long time, and

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we're kind of just just going off
the head and it was fine, Like

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it wasn't bad. Yeah, I
had a good time. They all had

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their moments of being funny. And
they had the subtitles on, so I

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was able to watch Cobra. Yeah, and uh and eat a burrito.

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I had half a burrito, but
they put onions in it when I specifically

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said no onions, so I couldn't
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happened. So so Cobra stands Upbye, Cobra is the greatest movie ever made.

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Stands up? Two thousand and seven
movie the Year's Cobra. I want

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your eyes, Pigry pig. Have
you been drinking uh Commando this Sunday?

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Yeah, And I think I'm you
know, provided I don't still feel sick,

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I think I'm gonna go. So
that that sounds like an endorsement.

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Yeah, No, I had a
good time. Like like I don't I

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don't want to like come out and
say like, oh, these guys talking

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about the movie and their thick history
ripsters and jerks and no. Like,

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like it was like they obviously had
their scene, like they had their thing

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going and they did it, and
that's cool. I thought it was neat.

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They're just like a posse of people
and they all seem like, you

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know, they were just friends hanging
out and they were going to get shut

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down at any minute, like any
second someone's gonna figure out their their whole

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thing and it's just gonna come storm
again. They're going, you can't do

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this. Well I was. I
was really bummed out because they call it.

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They call it bad movie Night,
and yeah, you know, if

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you're gonna show Cobra, it's obviously
not bad movie night. It's badass movie

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night. Maybe maybe it's maybe that's
just like they leave that for whatever hyphen

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it they need for that week.
Yeah, maybe I don't know. This

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is bad funny night, This is
badass nights. Yeah, so all this

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month it's eighties action movies Commando this
Sunday, and then Deathwish, Death Wish

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Dawn at some point. Yeah,
missing an action I'm sure. I'm sure

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Red Donald draw crowd. Yeah.
Yeah, there's a surprising number of people

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there for Cobra. Yea. And
they they did like, you know,

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show a hands, who's been here
before, and almost everyone raised their hand

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because Cobra brings them out. Yeah. When you say you're showing Cobra somewhere,

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people come out of the woodword,
go Cobra. That's the greatest movie

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ever made. I'm gonna, well, we're gonna go see Cobra. You

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did venture into the harrowing depths of
San Francisco for it. Yeah, I

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drove definitely the depth of San Francisco. That is, are we talking like

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deep in the mission? No,
it's like between like eighteen and nineteen,

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OK, but it's it's in there, but it's not you know, it's

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all up in it. Whatever it
was. There was a Pedalecostal church like

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across the street that was head of
service going on dirt like while we were

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walking there. It was Sunday night. I'm just saying, yeast blast some

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live music too out of there.
It was. It was the jam.

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So there you go. Uh,
Cobra is awesome. Look forward to just

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review of Commando in the near future. Yes, And I'm deliberately like leaving

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the name of the place out because
I don't I don't want to. I

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don't want I don't want to ruin
nothing. They got their awesome scene,

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and that's great. Bring the hammer
down saying what streets it was between?

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Do you think this is? Yeah? But who knows what door behind which

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happened exactly. It could be any
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that has the flyers for the event
that we went to posted on the door.

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Okay, so they're flying. This
isn't just like weird like fight club

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word of mouth things like you know, it kind of is yeah, looking

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sign with your hand before they let
you in. I don't really, I

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don't know. We brought an egg. I don't know if that helped.

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Was that maybe that was what you
needed to bring to show it's like all

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right if they got another yeah,
then we all got high on euphoria like

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a chicken egg. Yeah, we
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Man, what were you doing with
an uncooked chicken egg? That just bring

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it to get in? Man?
All right, good to know. So

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if you want to go see Commando
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to Mission Street. Different thing,
man, oh this week today. Maybe

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it's an ostrich egg. I don't
know. All right, Uh, let's

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I guess moving on or back to
cactus cooler, which is delicious. I'm

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gonna do some more of this well
cooler. It's yeah, it's says orange

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pineapple blast, and it builds itself
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it roughly tastes like chewable children's aspirin, that orange flavor of children's aspirin.

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I feel like you equate a lot
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no, pretty much does this.
A lot of people like to say that

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Red Bull tastes like that, or
Flintstones vitamins. I think they're crazy.

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But I feel like you've said that
before. I feel like you've said that

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you thought that red Bull tasted like
flint Stones. No, it was no,

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and Flintstones changed the flavors, by
the way, like with like,

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I just I love that you keep
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more because I was out for you, your thirty some odd year body.

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It's it's look, it still says
one hundred percent. For adults. You

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can't beat that. It's like what
you know, has it's been proven,

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it's math, it's since science books
look it up the top. But they

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they change the flavors and they taste
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Maybe I bought the wrong stuff,
but I bought I'm pretty sure I

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bought see. Okay, So for
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one of days, just like you
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just like, here's a vitamin you
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I don't eat breakfast, no,
and that that gets around on top.

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Yeah, so you swallow a vitamin
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would be this is one I was
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work or I'd be driving over to
Alex's and I would have to stop and

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pull over and throw up. It's
always fun, yeah, which, and

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I just wasn't into that. So
I was like, you know what,

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stick with what works. Flint Stones
vitamins, they work. Trust the kid,

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baby, that that that that you
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my house in the morning. Oh, it only happened about a week before

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I realized what was causing it and
then just stopped taking them. But yeah,

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so it wasn't the bulimia. Well
that's a different that's a different thing.

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I just spiraled out of this.
That's that's your secret puking, right,

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This is what see. This is
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and just decided that I really liked
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want to see my beautiful bones.
I can't remember the last time I threw

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up. I can It has been
a good long time, Alex. When

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was the last time you threw up? The last time I threw up was

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probably about a year ago. I
way way overdid it on some random drinking

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night and I got home about I
don't know, like three in the morning

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and just head toilet, stayed there
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this is this is well after when
we played forty hands. Yeah, this

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is out because that was that was
a pretty epic. That was epic.

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I agree that that was. That
was definitely the most memorable throwing up I've

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done in years and years and years. But I have thrown up since then.

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probably thrown up from drinking once or

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twice over the last few years,
like yeah, maybe four times ever for

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me, But that like, yeah, I came close last week. There

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was a morning after. Oh sure, you get up and be like,

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oh I was a little delicate at
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actually, yeah, I guess like
in the wake of the like the g

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DC like four nights of drinking extravaganza
towards the end there. Yeah, that

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that last night, that very last
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yeah, I mean the morning that
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on the last day. And no, no, no, no, no,

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no no no. After that,
okay, beyond that, no,

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the drink kept going. Man,
all right, that's good. Yeah,

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uh well, let's uh, I
guess that's that's it for the air pointing

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down drink minute this time, yeah, drink. We actually we have some

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beverages on the way being shipped in
from out of State's true, we do

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have we do have out of state
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test soon, so they'll look for
that in the near future. What are

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these out of state beverage out of
state drinks? Don't want to talk about

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it just yet. Oh are you
smuggling cores across state lines? Me and

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the snowman, uh so so part
of my My ritual for going to the

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Southland involves me on my way back
stopping at a Ralph's just before you hit

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the grape vine, uh, and
picking up a couple of cases of this

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this cactus cooler. So I grabbed
those, and then I also saw that

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they had some men zinita awesome,
which is the the the Pepsi made apple

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soda, which is if you've never
had you've never had an apple soda.

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Oh goodness, let me invite you
to Flavortown to enjoy a wonderful sensation that

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is kind of a split between like
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It's great. I love apple soda. I love it. It's so

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damn good, and you always wonder
how come it's It's only in the Spanish

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speaking part of town. We used
to used to me and Chris used to

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buy apple soda at the dollar store
all the time. They had, Yeah,

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they had they had the Shasta was
a good solid apple soda. B

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manzana mia that was good stuff.
The manzanita soul from Pepsi is also quite

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high quality. So I grabbed some
of that, and I'm enjoying it immensely.

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So uh, if you have the
opportunity, if you see it around,

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try yourself some some apple soda.
Yeah, I just I really find

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it horribly racist that you can only
find it seems like any sort of awesome,

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weird fruit flavored soda. Well,
I think they've done research that like

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fruit flavored sodas tend to sell well
to like the Latino demographic. And that's

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why I think it's totally crazy,
because I you give me an orange soda,

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I'll drink an orange soda. Damn
it. Well, just because they

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sell well to the Latino demograph,
it doesn't mean they don't sell to whitey.

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You know. It's like like I
would be more than happy to buy

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plenty of that. And that's just
and that's just kind of, you know,

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the narrow mindedness of this market research, as they aren't realizing that I

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would drink the hell out of some
apple soda. I don't. I just

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don't see it as frequently as I
would like, you can't buy it because

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it's not there, because they have
it for like a second and they go,

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oh, well, no one's gonna
buy this, right, So I

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implore you drink distributors and local retailers
carry the damn apple soda and bring cactus

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cooler up north. It used to
be up here. I used to be

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able to walk to the gas station
and get a cactus cooler. You used

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all to find it, along with
Tahitian treat right there. Treat, But

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it definitely seems like a kind of
a compliment to the Tahitian treat. And

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it's right, and it's fruit flavoriness. If I could just stock my refrigerator

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full of cactus cool or Tahitian treat
and apple soda, I would never leave

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my house except to get more of
that. I barely leave your house now,

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man, I know, and I'm
saying I would. I would do

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even less leave in the house.
Well fantastic. Uh, let's let's go

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ahead and get into talking about video
games a I guess, dude, if

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you really want to, All right, well, let's take the time machine

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back to last week. Take it, take it to the top. We

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chose. We recorded our last podcast
last Sunday. Yeah, right before apparently

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all of the important things in the
video game industry happened right like It's been

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like two months of pretty much nothing
until this week. It all happened like

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the morning after we posted the podcast. So let's talk about some of that

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stuff first. So EA making moves
on on Take two. Yeah, yeah,

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Uh basically has put itself out there
and said, hey, we would

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like to buy Take two, and
and we pretty much found out about this

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because EA took it public. I
guess this is denied. Yeah, this

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is very similar to kind of the
move that Microsoft made on Yahoo exactly,

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Like, it seems exactly the same
that they're just to the point that EA

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is kind of saying, listen,
if you don't want to play ball,

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we're going to go straight to your
stockholders, which means kind of a a

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hostile takeover situation, which is sort
of what they did by by making all

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this stuff public. And then the
thing that came out a couple of days

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after that is Take two saying that
it has other offers from other companies,

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which I don't know, who else
could it? Who else I take to

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Well, I mean, maybe it's
not a video game company. Maybe it's

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some big media company that wants to
get in. You know, it could

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be yeah, yeah, I mean
certainly MTV could do it. Yeah,

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MTV could be looking like that.
Why not? That could be a good

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compliment to what they're trying to do. But so yeah, so EA denied,

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But I don't think this is the
end of that. Yeah. The

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thing that that I kind of thought
immediately after reading that is like, well,

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this is going to happen, whether
it whether it take two wants it

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or not. I think this is
eventually going to happen. And then like

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a bunch of analysts came out and
basically said the same thing. So yeah,

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it definitely seems like, you know, EA get what EA want.

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Yeah, and in this in this
matter, it seems like they're probably one

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of the better poised companies to do
this. Yeah. And of course,

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I mean anything involving EA in business
just kind of brings up that horrible backlash

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with a bunch of people that don't
really have any stake in it either way,

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going oh yeah, he needs to
stop ruining the video game industry.

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The only the only losers I would
see in this scenario really are everyone like

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visual concepts, like basically everyone working
on sports games for two K. But

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whatever, those guys would dream,
No, who would have to like move

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to working somewhere else probably yeah,
they would just shut up. Yeah,

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they don't get absorbed they get shut
down. And you know, I respect

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the work that those guys have tried
to do, but there's just no room

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in this world for a non NFL
licensed football game, right. But I

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mean, at the same time,
like two k's basketball games year after year

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like the better of the two.
Sure, but that's not gonna that's not

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gonna stop. So maybe maybe in
that scenario you fire the NBA Live team

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and make But but I'm willing to
bet you that that the NBA Live game

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is still pull in more money than
right, but what K games, What

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they could probably do is slapped the
Live name on on the previous on the

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engine that they have just bought,
essentially and you know, make two K

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into Live. Sure, yeah,
it's possible that would work. They would

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then if they if he were to
do that, they would again have a

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baseball license because take two olds THEE
and which I don't you know, I

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don't I don't really see that as
a huge deal because I feel bad for

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the hockey guys because those guys would
be gone, Oh yeah, because they

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don't even have the best hockey game
anymore. Right, Yeah, they would

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probably all just be cut off.
But I mean, that's all external development

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that's at Kush or something, right, but what's Cush. But they have

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internal guys at work on that stuff, some dudes I used to work with.

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So yeah. So so it would
be a bummer for people that want

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a lot of choice in sports games. But as far as like you know,

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EA being the people to put out
Grand Theft Auto, that doesn't ruin

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Grand Theft Auto, Like he doesn't
eat A doesn't come into that situation and

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say we want we want to do
this and that, Like they don't make

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changes to that, like they cant
rated somehow. And that was one of

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the interesting things right around GC as
you saw EA's management coming out and kind

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of owning up to some of the
mistakes they've made in the past with companies

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like bull Frog and Origin and and
just like all these wests, not letting

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people have their identities within EA,
right, trying to integrate stuff too hard.

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Yeah, and now you see E
a kind of shifting to have like

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their Sam's division and their casual division
and their sports division and all that stuff.

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And uh, that's a little more
like the Take two with rock Star

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and two K games and like more
discreet LABE approaches. So I would see.

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You know, I could see that
working out for all involved and not

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being that bad because I don't know, it's you know, bottom line,

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it's Yeah, there's definitely kind of
that knee jerk sense about EA of oh

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whether they're the biggest so, you
know, hate on them. They're the

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ones that are making all games bad. You go look at EA games,

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they're generally pretty good. Yeah,
they're generally solid. There's definitely some solid

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some bad life stuff happens, but
you know, for for the most part,

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when they get into something, they
do it pretty well. They obviously

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they get the right people to do
it. They you know, picked up

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Pandemic and BioWare. It's like,
well, these guys are really good at

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making these types of games. Let's
have them do it over here. It

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doesn't sound like they're going to go
in and start ruining what BioWare does.

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You know, they're just gonna you
know, fund it and get a piece

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of it, and that's going to
be that Yeah why not? Yeah probably

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So, Yeah, I don't know
it. Given thea's a weird track record

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with this stuff, I could see
why people will be apprehensive. But sure,

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it seems this seems okay, but
they also seem aware of it,

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right, seems aware of it.
And on top of that, you know,

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it's not like Take two is some
brilliantly run organization that is not on

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the verge of ripping a part of
the seams is the best possible scenario for

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that company, and I have to
believe it's just gonna happen. I mean,

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the one thing I'd read was that, like, was it Zelnick?

407
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:56.079
The guy Zelnick, Like, like, the only reason him and the board

408
00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.119
and whatever delaying this deal is because
he's trying to sign some sort of like

409
00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:03.559
gigantic pay raise deal where if they
get bought, he gets like a bajilliony

410
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:07.480
dollars. That seems completely believable to
me. So and yeah, it takes.

411
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.440
It's had nothing but management issues and
money problems for years and years.

412
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.720
I mean, the guys that are
in power now we're put in there after

413
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.480
a huge coup in the boardroom that
happened, you know, a year or

414
00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.319
two back. So it's it's been
strife and crazy on top level. It

415
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:25.880
takes two for a long time.
So some sort of stability that could be

416
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:29.880
offered by EA, I have to
imagine would only mean good things for those

417
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.359
games that are being published under them, and Jack Thompson wants it to happen.

418
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.880
So you know that right there,
that's that's the kind of mode of

419
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:38.519
confidence you really need. That's the
like to make it. It's like the

420
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.960
weird that's just such a weird.
I feel like that. It's perfect because

421
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:47.039
it's because it. Yeah, every
time anything happens with any of this stuff,

422
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:48.200
he just comes in and say,
oh, you've played right into my

423
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.839
hands, like he's some kind of
master strategists that wanted this to happen all

424
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.480
along, Like, oh, by
doing this, you have sealed your own

425
00:26:55.519 --> 00:27:00.480
fate. Twists his mustache and disappears
into above of smoke. I really like

426
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.519
to see him actually do that.
It just disappear into a puff. He's

427
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.319
basically like the bad guy from Professor
Layton at this point. Yeah, which

428
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.480
seems like he's I don't know,
like making a deal with the devil in

429
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.279
some way. No, like the
quote no, don't don't be fooled,

430
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:15.200
Like the quote from him is very
much like I hope this happens because I

431
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.640
can totally ruin them. It's not
like he's like, yeah, that would

432
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.359
be good for No, it's like, yeah, I missed, I missed,

433
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:26.279
took the tone. No, he's
he's excited for it for his very

434
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.480
much his own reasons. So almost
at the exact same time that all of

435
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:36.200
this news of incredibly huge potential mergers, which we all in the room here

436
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.279
believe are it's probably gonna happen,
even if Take two don't want it.

437
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:42.119
Yeah, I mean, unlike unless
some other company rises out of nowhere and

438
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:47.759
it takes them away. But so
I if not ea, although I believe

439
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:52.759
it will be EA. Let's say
Q three, Q four, So before

440
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.440
the end of the year we will
see Take two folding into another publisher.

441
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.880
And then at the same time we
learned that Sony's Phil Harrison, Yes,

442
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:06.240
the Phil Harrison. He's up out
motor Storm. Yeah, and I no

443
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.720
longer care about motor Storm, says
Phil Harrison. I mean, I'm going

444
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.160
to go play the drums. That's
the only thing I can think of.

445
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.759
Is like they were, you know, they showed motor Storm too to a

446
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:18.920
select group of people at g DC, and maybe he realized he didn't want

447
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.519
to go through another two years of
saying motor Storm, so he he pulled

448
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.119
a fat otis bounced up out.
Did they actually show MotorStorm to a GDC.

449
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.720
Yeah. Wow, not to not
to people like you and me,

450
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:34.640
but yeah, someone somewhere I hear
there's dirt and bikes. Yeah, well

451
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.480
that that sounds promising. But so
yeah, this guy one of the major

452
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:42.480
faces for Sony, one of the
big public faces for their videos. And

453
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.079
really, I think though, the
one public face that could come up there

454
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.200
and talk about games and you got
the impression that he knew what he was

455
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.039
talking about and b was telling the
truth when he said I am excited about

456
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.279
this game and wasn't just out of
his mind. Yeah, And Ken Kutaragi

457
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:59.599
was just completely flipping insane. Yeah, And Jack Trenton's a businessman. I

458
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:03.440
mean, you know, it's like
hasn't really had that much pull the audience

459
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.039
in a long time. I think
Cash is much the same as Jack Shrenton

460
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.799
and yeah, Ken Karagi and that
he is he is a business dude,

461
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.359
right, that this is about games, and they're yeah, and they're just

462
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.279
like totally legit dudes, and they
know what they're talking about and they and

463
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.920
they're like fairly compelling speakers in their
own right. But I don't think that

464
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.039
they can deliver when it comes to
now we are going to talk about the

465
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:27.759
games? Are you ready for the
back? Like, that's just not they

466
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:32.519
can't, that's not there. So
so now Phil Harrison's gonna go do it

467
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:37.279
for Atari, which is yeah,
he has this awesome French title for Infograms

468
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:42.400
like direct Tour Regulars. I don't
even know. It's something basically president President

469
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:47.160
of Infograms or he's President of France. Yeah, he is now the President

470
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.799
of France, and I think that's
what that means. Basically, it's it's

471
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:53.240
all socialized over there anyways, So
it's if you are the president of Infograms

472
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.240
to the President of France, well
great, so good for him. Wait,

473
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.240
wait, way to break down barriers
by being the first brit to run

474
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.000
France. Yeah, so I guess
there's there's you know, there's a quote

475
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.799
from him out there talking about the
legendary brand of Atari and so much potential

476
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:11.519
here and oh and those guys have
been like circling the drain in a bad

477
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.440
way for a while now. I
mean that's been my view of it.

478
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.880
But if they can get someone like
Phil Harrison over there, then they've obviously

479
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.599
got something going on up top where
they still have some money to play around

480
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:25.160
with or at least something to offer
a huge percentage of Like if you can,

481
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.680
if you can turn this around and
make it happen, you'll be paid.

482
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.480
I have to imagine that that's it. I can't imagine that they have

483
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.880
the cash to pay someone like Phil
Harrison enough to draw him away from that,

484
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.759
because he had been at at Sony
for like ten years, twelve years

485
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:42.920
probably he'd been there for a really
really long time. So to pull him

486
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.960
away from that, I have to
imagine just huge amounts of stock. Yeah,

487
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.000
that would be. Yeah, here's
the here's this risky situation. But

488
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:53.880
if you can make it happen,
you'll be paid very well, you'll get

489
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:59.839
many francs for drachmas or whatever they
like. He's going to have trouble finding

490
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.680
work if that all goes out.
Oh yeah, exactly. That guy is

491
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:04.960
pretty much set. Bill Harrison Russ's
own ticket. Yeah, that is still

492
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.160
weird, sean archer of the video
game industry. Totally, that is still

493
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:14.319
a weird shift for him though,
just kind of going from from Sony riding

494
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.200
on top. Well, the other
thing that the people were speculating about,

495
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.519
which is based on some comments that
you said, like around GDC about Japan

496
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:27.200
being slow to move on online and
various things with the PlayStation platform. Is

497
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.359
that maybe he's just like another casualty
of the I don't want to work for

498
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.240
a Japanese company anymore, which every
time I hear it, it seems to

499
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:40.640
be pr people that can no longer
deal with they're the Japanese arm of their

500
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.119
company comes coming in and making all
these crazy decisions, being like that is

501
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.200
not the way to do it.
Oh God, you hear you Definitely being

502
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:49.839
in the industry, you hear that
on kind of a low level, a

503
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:56.359
lot of people finding themselves working for
these these large Japanese companies and being frustrated

504
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.599
by kind of the disconnect and communication
and also just kind of the way that

505
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:02.880
stuff is decreed in Japan. Yeah, it's makes people who are just so

506
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.680
completely disconnected from kind of what is
happening in the ground. I wrote a

507
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.519
bit about this on my blog and
uh and someone someone commented, someone actually

508
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:14.440
had a really good comment where they
said that, you know, basically,

509
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.400
Japanese business looks in decades, not
quarters. You know, like they're they're

510
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:21.240
very much long view, so they're
a little bit slower to move as a

511
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.359
result because they are kind of looking
at that that bigger picture that American business

512
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.240
tends to be about, what can
you do for me in the next three

513
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.559
months? And so Japan's like the
internet, yeah pretty much. Yeah,

514
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.559
Yeah, it's working out really well
for worldwide sales for some of these units.

515
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:42.160
But yeah whatever, PS three is
doing fine over there. So so

516
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:49.240
yeah, Phil Harrison's going to bring
incredible online support to Atari. Yeah home

517
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:53.440
now on your network connected twenty six
hundred. What franchises does Ataris still have,

518
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:58.640
Well, they'll see that they sold
Driver. Yeah, they still have

519
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:04.480
dragon Ball Z now for now.
Yeah, which I which Fundmation desperately wants

520
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.319
to get away from them, But
I guess did not actually get that shook

521
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:12.839
out, did they. Yeah,
so they have that. They don't really

522
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:16.319
have beyond good and Evil they still
have No, that's the other French,

523
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:22.559
the other French dudes. Yeah,
splinter Cell, Yeah, splinter Cells got

524
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.440
they made the lost license. Tari
has adventure. They've got combat right right,

525
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.119
Yeah, actually has browns all that
stuff. They don't even know that

526
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:35.880
Atari doesn't like what Atar like,
what classic Atari games does the Atari of

527
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.240
today they don't. Still they have
dragon Balls, they really don't have anything

528
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:42.359
else, but I mean like Pong, well they still put out like asteroids,

529
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.480
like like oh that stuff all came
out through Atari, like that X

530
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.000
Watch Live releases, like all the
ones that Stainless did that. We're really

531
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:52.400
bad, right Joust. Yeah,
so they still have access to some of

532
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:54.480
that stuff. But like the Atari
split basically like Hasbro got all the home

533
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:58.960
stuff and Midway got all the arcade
stuff, right, and then the brand

534
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.799
I guess maybe like they it Hasbro
sell it off at some point. I

535
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:06.720
don't remember the exact logistics. Remember
in the mid nineties there was that split.

536
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.159
Yeah, that's what's happened since then. So maybe they have Rush.

537
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:14.280
I don't know. No, No, Midway has Midwayway Rush. Yeah.

538
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:19.400
That's forty five minutes of us trying
trying to figure out what Miay owns.

539
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.239
Super Mario Brothers still have that is
still them. Yeah, if they got

540
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:29.280
Flight Simulator H eight, could they
make another Smurfs game? Dude? There

541
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.800
is There is a new Smurfs CG
film coming out, so I'm sure there

542
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:37.440
will be some fantastic video game tie
in well. Atari Atari being a French

543
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.760
company is perfect for that. Poised
poised to take advantage of this French property.

544
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:46.079
So yeah, Tari is in some
shit right now. Well I guess

545
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.599
not. I guess yeah. If
they're able to make this move, I

546
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.360
mean I think that this definitely raises
their chances of actually doing something, their

547
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:57.079
chances, but there they're still have
a long way to go. Oh yeah,

548
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.199
I can't again, I cannot remember
the last time Atari put out a

549
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.679
game. Test drive? Yeah,
test drive, that's true, test drive

550
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.119
on which did they license that out
to someone? Didn't they? Sure?

551
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:13.559
Mark Echo's getting it up Contents under
Pressure wasn't a tardy release. What's what's

552
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.639
the new? Didn't that come out
in two thousand, like five, two

553
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.360
thousand and six years ago? I
was like, I was like, oh

554
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.480
four, I think. But even
even better than that was the recent announcement

555
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.960
tangentially related to all this, that
they were making a video game based on

556
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:32.159
Dexter, the TV show, the
Showtime show being produced by Mark Echo's video

557
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.760
game company. So Mark Echo Market
Entertainment is going to bring you, which

558
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.039
I I don't think. I don't
think it's to any of the dudes from

559
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.760
getting up. No, it's probably
just Marcus. That was the collective and

560
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:46.039
they like it's whatever. Dude's mark
Echo Design. Yeah, yeah, no

561
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.599
Mark that he bought the he bought
a developer or something like that and renamed

562
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.039
it. I think maybe, But
that just seems that just seems like such

563
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:58.360
a weird combination of here's a show
about a serial killer who killed serial killers,

564
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.559
brought to you by the Grip.
The guy right, well, I'm

565
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.480
sure he's just a big fan of
the show said you will be awesome is

566
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.039
if that was a video game?
To check it out. Yeah, here's

567
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.039
this footage of me spray paint on
Air Force one. I still don't yet

568
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.639
how they're going to turn that into
a game that doesn't seem you're a still

569
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.639
serial killer that kills serial The word
kills is right in the description of the

570
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:20.079
show. That's how you make a
video game out of it thing. It's

571
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:24.400
not a particularly action oriented thing.
If Ubisoft was able to ring a goddamn

572
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:29.400
video game out of Lost, yo, yo. The thing you don't realize

573
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.039
is that you got to think about
the verticality of Dexter. You gotta get

574
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.679
in, get up, kill,
kill a serial killer, and get out,

575
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.639
And to be fair of the Lost
game, not very good. Sure,

576
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.199
Well, you know what this probably
won't be very good either. All

577
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.559
right, Well, there we go. So now now that we've decreed that

578
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:49.519
I liked Mark Echo's last game a
great deal, I'm interested in more than

579
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:53.440
more than most people he mentioned to
be by name in some interview because apparently

580
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:57.159
I got it and no one else
did. That was kind of weirded out

581
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.639
by. But apparently I was one
of the people who didn't quite get it.

582
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:07.000
I liked it. I didn't fantastic
sound. The combat killed that game

583
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.119
for me. The awfulness of the
commo. I like the story, of

584
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.480
the character, of the setting,
everything about that game. Yeah, you

585
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.719
know, there was there were good
ideas there for sure. Yeah. Uh,

586
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.000
but so that's Uh, that's the
beginning of last week was two K

587
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.360
and then uh Tari and Phil Harrison
and then what else has been going on

588
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.320
in the world around us? Jeff? Uh, Well, let's see.

589
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:34.199
Uh there was some stuff today about
Uh Bobby Kodik, the CEO of Activision,

590
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.119
was talking at some is that some
alternate ego of Bobby Digital? Yeah,

591
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:46.280
Bob Bob didgy Bobby kod g I
speaking at some Morgan Stanley something or

592
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.920
other. I don't know, Uh, And and kind of talking about what

593
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.199
they're doing with Guitar Hero Aerosmith,
and he mentioned van Halen in one of

594
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.760
the sentences. So now like just
basically said like, oh, you know,

595
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.079
like or like you know, a
new audience gonna exposed to van Halen

596
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:00.840
or something like that, just kind
of dropped it out of nowhere. And

597
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.239
now everyone's taking that to me that
after this Aerosmith game comes out, that

598
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.960
they're just going to be a van
Halen Guitar Hero game. I mean,

599
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.119
I'm sure that's something they're probably speculatively
looking at, but that doesn't sound like

600
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.559
a confirmation by any Oh no,
no, no, I mean it's yeah

601
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.280
exactly, And it's one of those
things that you call them up and asked

602
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.320
they're like, no, we haven't
announced a game like that. He's just

603
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.719
he just mentioned it. What Yeah, But it's also something that like,

604
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.960
you know, like is this road
Rash game gonna happen? Like dude mentioned

605
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:35.280
road Rash twice in different speeches during
GDC uh and then what is it?

606
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.400
Sebastian Bach mentioned, yeah, we
got a game. Were sounding on some

607
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.920
road rad I don't know something in
some interview. So somewhere in a bunker

608
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.079
in some place, there is probably
somebody sitting behind the computer working on road

609
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.199
rash. Yeah. But meanwhile,
then when e A got ahold of the

610
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.199
you know, when everyone got ahold
of Eya, they went no, which

611
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:55.960
doesn't which never means no. Like
that's that's the sad fact of station is

612
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.519
probably the least useful thing you can
do with things like that on things like

613
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.159
that, you know, because because
they're not going to say anything until they're

614
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.360
ready to actually say their thing,
they've got a timeline figured out for right,

615
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.400
and they're not gonna break it just
because someone dropped it in some kind

616
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:15.039
of roundabout way. But I you
know, these are usually very calculated things,

617
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:16.719
and I don't think you you go
in there and just mention something like

618
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:20.079
that off the top of your head. So I think it's something they're definitely

619
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.880
thinking about. We'll see if the
band you know, can can get into

620
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:29.760
that or whatever. It wouldn't surprise
me considering how like Weird and Flighty,

621
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:31.480
you know, a band like Van
Halen can be. You know, it's

622
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:36.159
like they're like, who's even in
van Halen anymore? They're asking Eddie's son,

623
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:37.159
like, hey, sixteen year old
kid, can we be in your

624
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:42.159
video game, like, yeah,
hell yeah, he's in van Halen.

625
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:44.840
I know, he's the bass player. He replaced Michael Anthony and on the

626
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.400
last that's criminal. I know.
So well, here's then I'm gonna throw

627
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:51.039
this down, right goddamn Now,
gentlemen. Is that if there's a van

628
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:55.840
Halen game that has Eddie van Halen's
son instead of Michael Anthony Michael Anthony.

629
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.840
I know. Well, here's here's
where this gets really weird. Is I

630
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.039
don't care if you even give Wolfgang
the Jack Daniels shape bass guitar, think

631
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:07.920
whatever. At this point you tell
me, hey, we're making a van

632
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:09.519
Halen version of Guitar Hero, I'm
gonna say the exact same thing as I

633
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.320
said about Aerosmith. I mean,
that's that's the difference. The difference is

634
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.000
the difference is that I actually like
older van Halen stuff and really don't care

635
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.280
about Aerosmith. Right. But here's
here's the thing about that, is that

636
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.440
van Halen makes more sense just from
a the you know, perspective of playing

637
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:28.719
Guitar Hero versus Roffian, because van
Halen is about the guitar playing. It's

638
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.760
about Eddie van Halen, right,
That's what that band is it is.

639
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.159
It is practically a showpiece for Eddy
van Halen. So that's David Lee Roth.

640
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.760
I don't have to he has heard
of time. I've actually greatest rock

641
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.519
and roll front man of all time, the greatest, the greatest, the

642
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:44.400
greatest. I still think the idea
of doing an entire game dedicated to any

643
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:49.400
one band is functionally retarded, But
I would much rather play a van Halen

644
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.719
game than an Aerosmith game. Well, did you see the other news about

645
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:54.639
the Aerosmith game, Like there was
some because they're taking pre orders in stores

646
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:59.079
now, and I guess one of
the best bicirculars had something in it that

647
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.760
said, like lay as Aerosmith or
other bands, like basically implied but there

648
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.880
would be, yeah, that there'd
be opening acts in the game, right,

649
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.679
they're bands, Like they said that
in the initial release. What they

650
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:14.960
said it was going to be bands
that inspired Aerosmith over the years and bands

651
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.400
that have toured with Aerosmith over the
years. Right, so it's all still

652
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.119
going to be kind of very seriously
thematically kept together. But that that at

653
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.480
least gives me hope for the project, because that means they'll probably a run

654
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:30.000
DMC song in there somewhere you would
hope. I would expect, so I

655
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:36.039
also totally expect Christmas and Hollis.
Yes, I totally expect that that there

656
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.360
is someone having conversations trying to get
deals to get you know, Guitar Hero

657
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:45.599
van Halen going. But I also
hope that they have sense enough to wait

658
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:50.119
and see what the sales figures for
Guitar Hero Aerosmith looked like before they drop

659
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:54.440
the hammer on that, because I
have very much question how many people are

660
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.159
going to give a good goddamn about
that game. I guys are to guess

661
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:01.239
that they're not going to because I
imagine that right now they're still writing so

662
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:05.639
much the high of anything we put
out with the word hero in it is

663
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.320
going to sell billions that they're just
they're just running out and trying to lock

664
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.719
up as many bands as they can
before rock Band can get to it,

665
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.079
right and mean, and meanwhile,
like you know, the mind share,

666
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:21.960
Yeah, it seems like to be
it's moving away from Guitar Hero right,

667
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.039
So right, they're just doing everything
they can to keep it relevant and in

668
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:27.639
the public eye, and if that
means having to you know, spend a

669
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.440
billion dollars on getting you know,
a gaggle of Van Halen songs and you

670
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.639
know, maybe a gaggle of ac
DC songs or something. Just as they

671
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:37.280
can put out three of those games
a year, they'll do it. Wait

672
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.360
to think about the long term activision. I would think that they would be

673
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:43.320
a job at this point. They
would just look at what Rock Band is

674
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.440
doing download wise and instead just go
for like a Guitar Hero four because it's

675
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.920
Stuff's like if, yeah, if
you're not totally invested in the download business

676
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:55.559
model like the way the Rock Band
is, you know, you're still thinking

677
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.440
like we should put out a bunch
of discs every year, right, And

678
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.639
that's that's that seems to be the
mindset they're pretty mired in, which I

679
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.039
hate that because straight up I don't
want to be switching discs constantly when I'm

680
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.400
playing games with friends. Yeah,
exactly, And you know they'll probably put

681
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:13.280
out PS two versions of those games
too, and we versions. You know,

682
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.400
there's just consoles where you can't really
do the download stuff. A model

683
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:22.039
that works so wonderfully for the Tony
Hawks series yes, now being applied to

684
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:29.559
the Guitar Hero franchise. Clearly the
right way to go chronic shortsightedness is going

685
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.519
to kill Guitar Hero, I'm afraid
to say. Yeah, it'll be at

686
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.639
least a couple of years before it
happens. Yeah, it always is.

687
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.480
It takes a long time for that
kind of momentum to slow down and fully

688
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:44.639
shift. So yeah, right around
the time of Guitar Hero X. Oh,

689
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.840
that'll be a futuristic Guitar Hero where
you play on laser guitars. When

690
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:54.360
Guitar Hero underground there as Underground would
be really funny. Scan your face in

691
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:59.199
for your dude. Yeah, whatever, what else is in the news,

692
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.480
Jeff, we'll see we should talk
about the Grateful Dead stuff, right,

693
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.800
So should on the subject of the
music stuff, you know, I just

694
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.239
the biggest just want to say how
horrible I think it is. I think

695
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.880
I think the Grateful Dead are also
pretty horrible. Yeah, Like that's you

696
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:15.639
know, every other song they've put
out to date. I've looked at me

697
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.320
like, well, I guess I
understand that, But then you go and

698
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.760
put out like six Grateful Dead songs
at once like that. The reason that,

699
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:29.039
yeah, why is that the first
band to get like goal Hog with

700
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:35.440
your because they licensed eighteen songs by
them because they they they totally just jumped

701
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.760
on board the things said, here's
a whole bunch of our music. There

702
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:39.920
you go. Well, then I
got to go back and question that decision.

703
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.400
I have to imagine that that was, you know, in part,

704
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.440
because like that was you know,
a bulk deal, like if we're going

705
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.519
to get anything, we've got to
get this much. Maybe. Yeah,

706
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.599
yeah, I don't know. I
just I don't think it's that bad of

707
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.960
a decision. I mean I understand
that, you know, you guys aren't

708
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:58.400
fans, and that's fine. I'm
not even a particularly big grateful Dead fan,

709
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.639
But I understand why they would do
it. It's like they're trying to

710
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.360
create the is big of a cross
section of different you know, genres and

711
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.840
styles. I think I think you
put I think you put those tracks out

712
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:08.280
one at a time with other stuff. Yeah, just mix it in there.

713
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.480
I mean, you know, they
haven't been putting out you know,

714
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:15.559
the Police six tracks at a time, but there has been you know,

715
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.559
a steady influx. There was the
one Police pack, and then after that

716
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:21.000
it was just kind of from there. Yeah, they've thrown they've thrown a

717
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.360
track in here or there. I
just I don't see the Deadhead Xbox three

718
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:29.320
sixty or p S three owner ven
Diagram is having a lot of crossover.

719
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.400
I think it's probably maybe that's the
thing though, is that maybe they put

720
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:34.920
out the one pack and from here
on out they just kind of throw one

721
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.199
or two in here and there,
and that's that. It seems like a

722
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.199
lot of the stuff that they're doing
with the download stuff right now with rock

723
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.320
band is very experimental. So I
at this point, they've sold so many

724
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.639
downloads that they can afford to experiment
a little bit and go, well,

725
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.800
let's see if people will come along
with us for this little ride here.

726
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.039
If we put out six songs by
this by this band and see how that

727
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.360
goes. It could be them kind
of priming the pump a little bit for

728
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.119
full album downloads down the line.
That's I mean, that's the thing that

729
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:04.000
I mean that this prompts from me
is the question of where are these full

730
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.239
album downloads? And and I guess, yeah, this will be them seeing

731
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.880
all right, are people willing to
go for more tracks at a time.

732
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:13.880
But I feel like the Grateful Dead
is a horrible band to do it that

733
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:17.280
way totally. I feel like,
you know, Nirvana's never Mind. Ye

734
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:22.440
put that out as a full album. If that, if that is your

735
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.480
first full album released for rock band, it will sell. It's gonna be

736
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:28.199
the Who. The Who's totally gonna
be the first one they do. They

737
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.559
are, they already talked that one
up, They already confirmed it. I

738
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.079
don't think they've ever actually said officially
that they're doing never Mind. I mean,

739
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.000
it was in that that news story
about like that that list of songs,

740
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.280
right, like all the never Mind
tracks were on that list, So

741
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:44.000
it seems pretty likely that that's coming, But I don't think they've ever actually

742
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:49.199
officially said that that's coming. Yeah
matter, So I agree. I think

743
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:51.599
that, you know, the Grateful
Dead is not the best benchmark for that

744
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.880
sort of thing. But at the
same time, I played the songs,

745
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.079
and you know what, they're kind
of fun, you know if you like

746
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.760
that, like some like you know, the sort of newly Allman Brothers stuff

747
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.039
that is in the Guitar Hero Too
and whatnot. That that's it's the same

748
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:08.440
kind of thing. I did break
my my current or my recent decision to

749
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.320
not downloading new tracks and I got
the nine s Nails pack, if only

750
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.480
because I know that March of the
Pigs on drums will be super fun,

751
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:23.079
super fun and uh, the perfect
drug on drums. That's all crazy.

752
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:29.199
Yeah, that's horrifically insane thing ever
insane time signatures and stuff on that,

753
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.320
Like it's all drum and bassy with
by crazy fills and stuff. The signature

754
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.639
is it actually remains pretty steady.
It's just that like the rhythm is just

755
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:37.360
all over the place. It just
goes in so many like yeah, it's

756
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.920
so fill heavy, so drum and
bassy and yeah, like it took me

757
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:45.599
five tries to even beat it on
expert, which for me, I can

758
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:47.400
usually cite read most of that stuff
pretty pretty easily. And that that that

759
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:52.079
ship like vexed me for a good
hour there too. Big Man on campus.

760
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:53.679
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty extreme. I don't know. As soon

761
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:57.000
as I get around like playing more
rock man, I'm just gonna go back

762
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.320
and buy everything except for the Grateful
Dead songs, I guess. Yeah,

763
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:01.559
like that's been the first thing,
Like that's that's been in the back of

764
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.760
my mind all along, Like,
oh, you know, as soon as

765
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:06.880
I get back into rock band,
it's gonna happen. One of these days.

766
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.719
I'm gonna go buy everything. This
has been the one first thing that

767
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.000
came out and I was like,
oh, except for that, we went

768
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.920
to buy that. You and I
need to do the Endless set list at

769
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:17.360
some point. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we're about to get the

770
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:21.159
achievement for that. Yeah. That
would be fun. Yeah, because I

771
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:23.679
haven't really played it too seriously since
we finished fan World tour. Friend of

772
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.159
mine did it, said it took
him about four and a half hours.

773
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.320
Christ, so I'm going to put
it in the time if Yeah, I

774
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:35.000
am too. It's just it's just
all the fifty eight songs that come with

775
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:39.000
the game, right, Yeah,
that's not even that bad whatever. Yeah,

776
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:46.800
still means we have to play for
play long time well on expert Yeah,

777
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:54.960
and which means I'll play bass.
Yeah. Speaking of old white dudes

778
00:48:55.039 --> 00:49:02.360
with giant beards, yes, uh
that's and Dragons creator Gary Gygax has sad

779
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.320
news here has passed along. Yeah. He had a sixty nine years old.

780
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.199
Apparently he had been sick for for
some years. He has leveled up

781
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:14.760
for the last time. Yes,
he his tombstone will read he rolled natural

782
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:20.719
twenties. So that's that's I think
tangential to all things. I was never

783
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.400
a big D and D guy.
No, I never came in a table

784
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.840
top I tried playing it once and
this girl that we were playing with showed

785
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:29.199
up with like a full loaf of
bread and just was eating it with no

786
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:30.920
butter on it, And I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, did

787
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.760
you have your monster manual? No, this is the player's handbook. Okay,

788
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.480
so you have, you have an
add but it's just the cover because

789
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.360
in size this copy of Poker Pro
with Sammy Farha on the cover. Because

790
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:46.760
it's as handbook, I see,
said, dude big time. Yeah,

791
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.400
So I don't know. I don't
know where the actual player's handbook went.

792
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.800
It fell out of the cover a
long time ago. But you know,

793
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:55.960
even as someone who was not a
DND player, I understand how important he

794
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.360
was in sort of like you know
a lot of modern game design invention.

795
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.519
Yeah, like role playing games and
whatnot. Yeah, definitely, the modern

796
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:09.320
RPG would not exist as it does
without that table top RPG convention existing beforehand,

797
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:14.599
which was you know, a large
part his construction. So yeah,

798
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:20.639
so his his influences felt even today. Are we gonna miss him? You

799
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.840
know, I'm probably not gonna miss
him, but it's still sad to hear

800
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.480
when when stuff like that happened will
miss him. Well, I think he's

801
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:29.760
made his contribution. Yeah, he
did what he needed to already ask him

802
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:31.960
in more. Yeah, okay,
cached way, all right, okay,

803
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:37.000
I'll give you that. Uh so, yeah, that's uh all about do

804
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.800
it? I guess for news Yeah
for Yeah, that's basically what happened.

805
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.000
There's also, you know, some
new games out. Yeah, did anything

806
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:46.239
else happened while I was gone?
Because I was I was out of it

807
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:50.280
all last week. I was not
in the loop playing a conflict. Denied

808
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:52.400
opts to know what the hell was
going on in the world. So that's

809
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.960
a lot of fun. It's a
good game, is a fantastic Alex Navarro

810
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:02.360
gives two thumbs up to Yeah,
Denied out of out of ten. That's

811
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.679
a lot of thumbs. Two thumbs
out of ten points. Yeah, so

812
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.480
a thumb does not equal a whole
point. No, so basically it gets

813
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.840
a four. Yeah. Well it's
it's it is. You know, I

814
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:16.440
don't even know what type of game
that is. The Conflict series, the

815
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:20.079
Conflict, Desert Storm and all those
others. Oh, oh, it's okay.

816
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.719
So this is a first person shooter. So they changed it up on

817
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:24.159
you, you know, I mean, I mean, you give me that

818
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:28.440
name, and I could have thought
it's like an RTS, right, Yeah,

819
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:31.519
uh no, it's the Conflict series
that's been going on for some time

820
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:37.760
now. It's squad based. This
one actually sort of there's there's two characters

821
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.039
you control the hold. Yeah.
I guess that's that's how the last one

822
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:44.119
was to which to me sort of
felt like someone saw the announcement for Army

823
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:45.639
of two and said to a design
team, here, make this, but

824
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.360
make it in six months. No, they've been making those games for a

825
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.320
long time. I don't I don't
know they're straight up biting someone else's style

826
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.840
with it, but it feels like
it's it's the same sort of But they've

827
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:59.679
never been especially good games either.
So Yeah, I've been playing The Club.

828
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.639
Yeah, I didn't like that either. I just got my copy today.

829
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:06.320
I haven't started digging into. Yeah, no, I understand, like,

830
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:07.679
like now that I've played The Club, I've played through like the first

831
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:13.079
three, so they are like the
prison level of the last level I've finished.

832
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.360
Yeah, I don't know. That
game makes a really like a passable

833
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:20.599
first impression and then immediately goes downhill. From there, we're just like,

834
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.159
oh, so I'm just gonna do
this. Then it continues on like that

835
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:29.000
for a while and then it's over. I mean, so you can you

836
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:30.320
can pick a different character pretty much
at any time. Like, what does

837
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.400
the condition for seeing a different You
said the characters have endings to finished the

838
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.880
last tournament, last tournament with Oh
yeah that's what I thought. Yes,

839
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.000
yeah, so you have to do
those same levels again and again and again

840
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.360
and again to see all the endings, you know, the great fucking endings

841
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:49.440
that really tell you a lot about
what's going on in that game. Are

842
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.920
they pre rendered? Yes? The
sounds they sound like tech and ending is

843
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:57.079
only not as good. Yeah.
Yeah, Well conceptually the same, like

844
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:00.039
conceptually a lot like conceptually that game
is a hiding game, but a shooter

845
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:05.239
instead, like with it's at the
dead level of depth that has everything everything

846
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:08.920
about it. It's like the actually
it's Tony Hawk. It's with guns.

847
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:13.400
I mean, you're creating combos over
and over again. You're well, okay,

848
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:17.000
the conceptually it's Project Gotham racing with
guns but with fewer moves. If

849
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:20.719
you would do it, if you
do a power rover drift around corners and

850
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.440
then shoot guys. Maybe you'd have
something, but yeah, but you can't

851
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.599
do that unfortunately, so that game
is not so Goodeseptually, it's like Mister

852
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:30.079
Dew and rad Racer. So it's
Mister Dew, but three D. I

853
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.559
wear the glasses. I had the
select button and put on the glasses.

854
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:39.239
That's game three three D Mister Dew. Carbon Company soon from Carbon Carbon Neutral

855
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:49.000
Games Games, the new development studio
helmed by faved Jeff Gerstman. Uh so,

856
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.760
yeah, I had not played a
ton of games over the past week.

857
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.159
I just yesterday wrapped up my time
with Jumper. Oh good, I

858
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.119
never have to play that again,
so that's good. How are the how

859
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.079
many points? Yeah? I received
seven hundred and fifty points for finishing that

860
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:06.440
game. Then I need to borrow
your copy of Jumper. I was totally

861
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:07.480
gonna bring it today. Dude.
I'm sorry that I'd spaced on that.

862
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:12.559
That's cool. I just I just
got notification from the good folks at game

863
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.000
Fly that they're sending me a copy
of CSI, so I'll have that for

864
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.239
points and also front Lines of Fuel
of War. Yeah I lost that.

865
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.719
You were saying as a good points. Yeah here that as well about them

866
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:27.519
closing on fifty five thousand. Uh
so, I guess I'll technically be closing

867
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:31.000
on fifty six thousand after I play
CSI. Yeah, that's that. That

868
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:35.159
is five and a half hours of
your life. You won't mind having one.

869
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:37.679
I'm just gonna stare about them whatever. Like I have two Peak computers

870
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.360
in the same room that I play
video games in. I'm just going to

871
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.159
have one of them with a fact
up at all times, yeah, and

872
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:49.840
then the other one doing other computer
e stuff. Yeah, and occasionally turn

873
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:55.199
around and kid a button to make
them use the semen searching light on something.

874
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:59.159
That's the best part of that WILL
game, I bet. Yeah.

875
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:06.519
Did tell Tale make that? Yeah? They they've made the last two CSI

876
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:08.880
games. I've been playing through the
second season of Salmon Max. How is

877
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.480
it? It's all I've only played
through the first episode so far, and

878
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.159
to start on the second one,
it's great. Cool, So they they've

879
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:16.599
kept up the momentum. Yeah,
it's funny. I mean it opens basically

880
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.800
where the first season left off,
Like Max is still president. Oh good

881
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.639
you still you still encounter the giant
stone head of Abe Lincoln. Good.

882
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:29.000
Good, good, good, like
it basically just picks up. Yeah.

883
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.360
I finally went back and played through. I'm up to like episode five of

884
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:37.400
the first season. Episode five is
the Reality two point zero one. Yeah,

885
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:39.559
that thing is my favorite one.
Yeah, that's because the the arcade

886
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:44.360
machine that yells at you and they
show up again like that awesome. There's

887
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:45.960
actually like the first thing that happens
when you boot up the at least on

888
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:49.480
the game tap version. I don't
know if it happens and the download one

889
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.159
as well, but it comes up
like they they offer a tutorial now that

890
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:54.639
you can play if you've never played
an adventure game before. It kind of

891
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:59.519
walks you through what it basically is. But the tutorial is kind of like

892
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:04.559
introduced by the four machines like the
phone, the Pong machine and the arcade

893
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:09.119
machine and the computer. And it's
awesome, nice, so funny. Just

894
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:14.519
so just those characters, like those
those four characters are up there with like

895
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:20.199
Weighted Companion Cube in my book in
terms of amazing video game characters from last

896
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:24.360
year. Yeah, seriously cannot say
enough about the Salmon Max series if you

897
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:28.559
haven't played it, and like a
good funny adventure game, it's great stuff.

898
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:30.760
I was. I was super impressed
with it. I like, I'd

899
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:34.000
watched you play a lot of it
while you're reviewing it, like back in

900
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:37.239
the day for the site which I'll
never be named. Uh, and you

901
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:39.400
know, I got an impression of
how good it was, but actually playing

902
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:44.639
it it is is really something.
Yeah. I mean it's a very traditional

903
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.760
adventure game in format. But just
the quality of the writing, yeah,

904
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:52.679
which obviously is a thing that carries
an adventure game. If you don't have

905
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:55.840
good writing, then yeah, that
pretty much is what an adventure game needs,

906
00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.639
right, good, good dialogue,
good story stuff like that. In

907
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:01.320
the ll tail people seem to know
how to do that, so Bully for

908
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:06.599
them. Yeah, it's speaking of
which this week, Bully. Yeah,

909
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.079
Schollarship Addiership Edition, The WE and
Xbox three sixty. I picked up my

910
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:12.719
copy for the three sixty this morning. I picked mine up in this afternoon.

911
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:15.880
But it's still very much you know, for the hour or so that

912
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:19.280
I've played it so far, it's
still very much Bully. They did not

913
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:22.840
change what that game is about.
It still very much looks like a PS

914
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:27.159
two game as far as the quality
of the president totally. Like I played

915
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.920
the three sixty version for an hour
or so while I was waiting for you

916
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.440
to show up, and it's I
like it so far. A little disappointed

917
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:36.400
by the frame rates. Yeah,
like that's the problem. Like, graphically,

918
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:37.679
I think it looks good. They
sharpened it up nicely, put some

919
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:39.880
more you know, chatow, a
little more detail and stuff like that.

920
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:45.000
But yeah, I really really thought
that they would have been able to hammer

921
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:50.760
down the frame rate stuff, although
not not done by rock Star tracking doc

922
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:54.599
to the ports so, but also
like the first thing that jumped out of

923
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:59.079
me is like the frame rate and
the pre rendered cut scenes was jacked.

924
00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:00.480
Yeah, like it though those were
stuttering. I was like, what,

925
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:05.960
it's not pre render, that stuff's
real time. But like the N engine

926
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:07.719
cut scenes I noticed, No,
I mean like the mad Doc logo at

927
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.280
the start of the game him being
dropped off at the school. No,

928
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:14.800
that's an engine too, the mad
Doc logo. They use THEE to that.

929
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:19.400
Yeah, Bully's awesome, totally,
it's it's it's still rude the music,

930
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.920
Gods music, And I'm still like
a little I don't know, like

931
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:27.559
from playing it for an hour here, I'm a little disappointed by the quality

932
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.079
of the port like I wish the
frame right stuff was better. I agree.

933
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.719
You know, it's weird that I
what I realized is that frame rate

934
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.519
way better at night. Weird like
in the game, like when you're doing

935
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:42.360
nighttime missions and like when you first
go and see the homeless guy early on.

936
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.400
Maybe when I did that, I
realized, Wow, it's running way

937
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:47.360
smooth than the fog up the outside
of your view or something. No,

938
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:51.440
I I guess maybe, Well,
there's fewer people out on the on the

939
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:54.039
streets at night. That's probably is
you can see less pedestrians. When you

940
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.280
first said that, I thought you
meant, like, you know, when

941
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.440
I'm playing a game, the frame
rate for me is always or at night.

942
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:02.280
That's because at night. No,
that's because you're drunk at night,

943
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:05.880
dude. Yeah, well it makes
the frame way way better. Yeah.

944
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.039
So yeah, Bully's out. Army
of Two is out this week. Yeah,

945
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.639
I'm kind of looking forward to you
both. Both of you guys seem

946
00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.079
seem up on it. I am
a little more cautious. I played it

947
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:19.920
forever ago a't some EA event,
and it actually kind of impressed the hell

948
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:22.039
out of it. Yeah, and
I'm actually, I mean, I'm impressed

949
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:24.039
based on what he told me after
that event. I think basically, you're

950
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.920
impressed by the Wu Tang line,
right, Yeah, And then they talk

951
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.400
about like completely random, ridiculous shit
throughout there, and that's in the game,

952
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:32.880
right, that's not just stuff in
it for trailers. No, I've

953
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:36.880
seen I've seen that stuff where like
you're in the middle of a firefight and

954
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:38.559
one of the guys starts asking the
other guy who his favorite member of the

955
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:42.000
Wu Tang clan is. Yeah,
I saw that. Yeah, I found

956
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.639
that very in doing as well.
You know the best part about that line

957
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:46.280
is that he says, you know, you know, I'm I'm you know,

958
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:50.480
there's a lot that I like about
ghost Face Killa, But you know,

959
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:52.599
I was thinking to myself, what
about you? God? Like that's

960
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.920
that's the level of dedication they go
to, Like who the fucking you?

961
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.239
A lot of people say Rizza or
method man. Yeah, I mean that

962
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:05.880
that kind of stuff is great.
And also learning that they hired actual marks,

963
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:09.280
these real sketchy ass mercenaries to come
and consult on the game, and

964
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:14.119
that's where they got the straight out
of black Water, the grizzled old Mark

965
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:15.800
well, and that's where they got
the stuff they killed three developers where they

966
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:22.320
were working on about using tampons to
stop bullet wounds and stuff like that,

967
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:27.719
which are you know, great authentic
touches that I find compelling. But then

968
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:30.400
you also hear just all these horror
stories from development about how you know,

969
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:34.280
there's a reason that it was delayed
for the six months that it was or

970
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:37.000
whatever. So a little that makes
me a little trepidacious. But I still

971
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:45.199
like the idea of what they're doing
of a a non regimented military shooter,

972
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:49.519
like a military shooter that isn't about
I'm in the army. Yeah, I

973
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.159
mean it reminds me of like some
of the you know, the more freewheeling

974
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:54.840
concepts of mercenaries without the open world. Sure, like some of the same

975
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.519
kind, even like yours of war. I mean, you know, it's

976
01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:00.800
like technically they were part of a
military operation, but you didn't get a

977
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:04.679
lot of that feeling from the characters
and the dialogue and stuff. But I

978
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:08.760
was speaking with one Rich Gallop earlier
today over the Rich the Rich Gallup TV's

979
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:14.519
Rich Gallup Television's Rich Gallup. He
basically said, he's he's waiting to hear

980
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:15.840
from me how Army of two is
because he's worried it could be filled with

981
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:21.159
too much battitude. Yeah that's possible. Yeah, I don't know. I'd

982
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:22.880
just like to have a good co
op shooter that I would actually want to

983
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:25.760
play with people, because I haven't
had one since Gears of War at this

984
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.559
point. So there's there's both of
those, and then there's a got a

985
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.280
war for the thing? Yeah that
was that last week? Is that you

986
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.039
got a war? That is this
this week? That's this week here,

987
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:40.519
it's it's totally amazing. Yeah.
Uh, I would like to very much,

988
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:45.599
really on a personal level, kind
of don't care. Yep, that

989
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:47.239
makes that makes me bad. I
liked I like the first God of War.

990
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.519
I'm I've never been a huge fan
of the series, so I like

991
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:52.800
the first one. You give me
one. That's I'll wait for it to

992
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:58.199
come to PS two and then and
then also not play it there inability three

993
01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:02.280
No PS two okay, yeah,
oh the PSP game to two right right

994
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:07.079
okay, which yeah, which isn't
inevitable, so Q three look for the

995
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.320
Chains of Olympus on right the PlayStation
two first, Yeah, with the you

996
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.440
know, some kind of trailer you
know, after you beat it some kind

997
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:15.360
of video of the PS three game. At the end they're streaking news.

998
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:17.920
Well there's a thing like in the
Instruction of Right, says yeah, Wars

999
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:22.480
three. Yeah, uh so those
are probably the most significant releases of this

1000
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:27.719
week. Next week, Condemned to
blood Shot comes. Yeah, that's been

1001
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.920
a lot of ads for best subtitle
ever? Is that is a good subtitle?

1002
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:34.960
Shot is a fantastic subtitles? Are
they? Are they just picking up

1003
01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.239
where the first one left off with
that It plays the same guy, Yeah,

1004
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:39.599
except he's like gone crazy and he's
an alcoholic. Now great, Great,

1005
01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:44.320
that's great, Like like like he
to fight off the demons that have

1006
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:47.039
been haunting him. He's been drinking
them away. No, awesome, perfect

1007
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.239
now and he'll pick up the school
desks and bash you is with him?

1008
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:53.159
Yeah, there will be. As
long as there's a lot of like very

1009
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:57.920
detailed, very gory bum fights in
that game, it's gonna be awesome.

1010
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.519
You can there are now like environmental
kills. So like in one part that

1011
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:07.599
I've seen, Dude Grabs, you
know, the hobo crazy guys fighting and

1012
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:12.440
shoves his head into a pneumatic press. Terrific, and you see this very

1013
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:15.960
slow press, come down onto the
guy's head and squish, squish until everything

1014
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:21.159
pops out. And seeah, totally
it looks way more brutal than the first

1015
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:24.360
one, which the brutality was really
what made the first Condemned any fun.

1016
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:30.320
Honestly, is bent is bent rebar
in it? Yeah? Yeah, bent

1017
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:35.679
rebar with concrete chunk terrific. We'll
make a return as well, so uh

1018
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.119
yeah, there's probably other releases,
but I looked over the calendar and that's

1019
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:40.760
probably Yeah, that's the big stuff. I mean, we're gonna start picking

1020
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:45.639
up releases here over the next few
weeks because we're trucking onto the end of

1021
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:47.800
the first quarter, that's true,
and end of Q one is coming up

1022
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:52.239
end of the month here, so
you'll see a little rushed releases. Yeah

1023
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:55.280
yeah. And then, uh,
well there's a what's what's the Xbox Live

1024
01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:01.840
Arcade game this week, Rocket Access
of Evil, which I saw described as

1025
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:06.000
kind of like Smash TV but with
some RPG stuff thrown in. Okay,

1026
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:11.199
twin stick shooters Twin stick shooters,
but with character development, bringing it to

1027
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.679
the Xbox Arcade for the first time. Yeah, finally, when you level

1028
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:17.960
up, do do you turn faster? Let's hope. Now when you level

1029
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:21.760
up you become Mutoid Man. Well, then that that's the greatest game in

1030
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:26.800
from me. Yeah, that would
be sick play as Mutoid Man. Yeah.

1031
01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:30.320
Yeah, that's why you gotta have
Smash TV MMO so you can have

1032
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:33.119
the faction of the people that run
the TV studio. Dude, what is

1033
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.639
Midway doing? I want to do
quests for Mutoid Man. What is Midway

1034
01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:41.199
doing that? There's no Smash TV, new new Smash TV game out there.

1035
01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:46.639
They're a wasting wasting potential. Yeah
probably, I mean yeah, they're

1036
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.400
about due to announce some new stuff. They got Ballers coming out in April.

1037
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:53.599
Oh yeah, I notice their turn
this year, isn't it. Yeah,

1038
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:59.920
they get they get to do the
freestyle basketball in the ball as I

1039
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:02.000
the way to have a game Midway. The stuff, the stuff on Ballers

1040
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:03.960
looks really cool. I'm sure.
I'm sure it's great. The first one

1041
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:08.159
was great. Oh yeah, totally. I don't even like basketball games.

1042
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:13.400
I like ballers. Yeah, I
have no opinion about ballers. Do you

1043
01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:15.840
want to be a baller? No
shot caller? Do you want to have

1044
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:21.840
twenty eight inch blades and paulor Yes, that's not really a rhyme. I

1045
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:24.760
don't want to talk to you.
I don't want to talk to you about

1046
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:28.320
this. We're having a conversation over
here. The adults are talking hogs.

1047
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:34.719
I'm sorry. I drove past rosecrans
Ah good on my way through La excellent.

1048
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.840
So I guess that's about it for
what's going on. We were actual

1049
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:45.480
for actual news. Questions from at
home. Oh brother, we have questions,

1050
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.920
uh, pouring out the everything here
what we don't have as answers,

1051
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:57.800
but we're gonna We're gonna fake it
anyways. Kurt from Washington, Iowa asks

1052
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.840
what are your three favorite Xbox Arcade
games? Wait, he lives in two

1053
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:04.559
states. He lives in the city
of Washington in the state of Iowa.

1054
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:11.239
That doesn't make any sense. Three
favorite Xbox Live Arcade games? Which a

1055
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:16.280
pretty challenging question, I think because
it's been a volume of really excellent Xbox

1056
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:24.119
Live arcady I'm gonna say, and
I know I own like sixty eight five

1057
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:28.599
I actually only own like twenty five, So God, I've been way too

1058
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:31.280
much on downloadable games. It's because
it doesn't ever seem like real money.

1059
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:35.519
Five bucks. Sure, I'll just
push this button points hit them for ten

1060
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:39.519
money. I hit the magic button
and then it goes, yeah, I'm

1061
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:42.400
gonna put Uno on my list.
Yea, yeah, be online as well.

1062
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.440
You know, I like I like
Geometry Wars, but I don't feel

1063
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:54.199
like it's one that I've necessarily gone
back to so much. I'd put it

1064
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.880
on mine. I would put Geometry
Wars online. Well, you definitely put

1065
01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:00.679
Caten on yours. So there's your
three. The only one that that comes

1066
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:06.559
close to possibly knocking off either johnsry
Wards or Uno is Alien Hominid. I

1067
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:10.400
like. I like Alien Homedated an
awful lot. I guess what kind of

1068
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:14.719
ding's Alien hominated? For me?
Is it's you know, availability right elsewhere?

1069
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:16.559
For me, it was for me
it was the problem that I experienced

1070
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:19.719
while playing it, where there was
a bug that wouldn't save your game right,

1071
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:23.920
which I don't know that they ever
fixed it, but it was something

1072
01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:27.079
that was only happening on certain three
sixties, and I have since changed three

1073
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:29.920
sixties. So you might even work
for you now, who knows, but

1074
01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:33.159
I haven't found out. And I'm
sure someone is coming right now a puzzle

1075
01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:36.639
quest, but as opportunity. I'm
not a puzzle quest guy. I don't.

1076
01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:39.440
I don't mind it. Oh,
you know, I do love puzzle

1077
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:41.840
quests. I love puzzle quests a
lot too, and I've played a whole

1078
01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:45.079
lot of it on the Xbox Live
Arcade version as well. I probably the

1079
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:47.320
best version of that game. Yeah, all things, I probably put that

1080
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:53.519
on my list. I also really
was. I was so thrilled when they

1081
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:58.280
brought Streets of Rage too. Oh
yeah, two Xbox Live Arcade, just

1082
01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:02.000
because such a left field thing that
you know, someone just knew, right,

1083
01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:04.280
you know, somebody just said,
yeah, this is a we have

1084
01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:09.400
Sega. You know, Digital Clips
is going to do these ports. This

1085
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:11.800
is one of the games that needs
to be in this list. Shouldn't we

1086
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:15.479
do Straight Your Rides one first?
No, Yeah, it's got the car

1087
01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:20.239
with the rockets, But Streets of
It is the superior game, make no

1088
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:25.920
mistake about it, Ladies and gentlemen. We need desperately Final Fine Arcade to

1089
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:29.159
come to Lave Arcade. That's got
to happen, Just gotta happen. You

1090
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.239
know. I'm kind of over the
Arcade remix at this point, will be

1091
01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:36.239
once that comes out. That's the
only thing I'm still like burning a candle

1092
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:39.359
for at this point. I guess, do you want to throw any any

1093
01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:43.960
Xbox Live originals into your list?
Jeff, I think, you know,

1094
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:45.840
was a really obvious choice. I
think that that asks absolutely has to be.

1095
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:47.600
It's obvious, but it's also really
good. There was a reason it

1096
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:51.960
was like one of the most played
and most pac Man Championship Edition certainly.

1097
01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:59.920
Yeah, that Space Giraffe. I
love Space. I actually was playing Space

1098
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.960
to Have recently a couple of days
ago. I will never be able to

1099
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:06.479
fathom anything going on in that game, but yeah, I don't know,

1100
01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:10.760
maybe maybe my color blindness actually makes
it easier for me to see in that

1101
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:15.520
game, because as yeah, visually
that game is a mess. Yeah,

1102
01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:19.000
Poker Smash in your list anyway,
I really do like Poker Smash. I

1103
01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:21.199
like it. I don't like it
as must lady. I wish that,

1104
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:25.279
Like I guess, I wish that
the presentation was a little bit better,

1105
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:29.960
Like maybe the music and the themes
were a little I don't know, like

1106
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:33.680
like certain aspects of that game seem
kind of chintzy. I guess what bothers

1107
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:38.319
me or what I What I have
an issue with is I don't feel like

1108
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:43.039
the gameplay evolves as much as it
could while you're playing. Yeah, it

1109
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:45.000
just gets faster, Like they don't
add anything new, like maybe maybe if

1110
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:48.600
they started out with like two suits
and expanded to four as you went on

1111
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:51.840
or something. Never really changed as
far as what you're trying to do,

1112
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:56.560
right, it does the challenges and
stuff, like I think the multiplayer,

1113
01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:00.960
like the online is pretty neat,
and that that's kind of a neat way

1114
01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.279
to kind of change the game up
a bit. I guess I feel like

1115
01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:09.520
like doing something other than just speeding
up the page. Yeah, yeah,

1116
01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:12.319
I agree with you. But at
the same time, for them to make

1117
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:17.319
the control changes that they did to
like basically like I think Poker Smash totally

1118
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:20.680
revolutionizes the way puzzle games are controlled. I agree, using the using the

1119
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:24.840
two analog sticks for you know,
for moving your cursory and then for moving

1120
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.960
the pieces, like that's the Jeweled
needs to start. Yeah, like what

1121
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:31.039
the hell? Like, like,
how how did we go this long without

1122
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:36.439
someone else coming up with that?
Like that? Yeah, exactly exactly like

1123
01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:40.520
that. Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, Microsoft is invested in Poker Smash

1124
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:45.520
or whatever early on and and and
that happened, But I don't think I

1125
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:47.039
would put Poker smash on my top
three though. No, No, I

1126
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:53.079
think it's a I think it's pack
Man Championship Ship Edition, you know,

1127
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:57.720
and probably actually Ultimate Mortal Kombat three
m K three, Yeah, which has

1128
01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:00.159
its problems, but I love that
game so much, I'm willing to kind

1129
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:02.840
of look past a few of the
issues that has. Nope, nobody picks

1130
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:08.520
Utreo Solitaire. Man, what the
f hell? Man? No? Yeah,

1131
01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:12.560
no, Sultrio Solitaire. Sorry,
no, no, backammon. I

1132
01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:16.159
do have all two hundred points in
back Ammon, But that's sick. That

1133
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:19.359
was like me and Carry losing back
and forth through each other to get like

1134
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:26.560
ten wins or whatever. And Plus
is awesome, and Plus is super awesome

1135
01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:30.840
for the Xbox Fly Arcade is awesome. But that's just because it's I have

1136
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.399
a hard time, you know.
It's a difficult game to recommend to the

1137
01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:36.960
average person. Yeah, and with
good reason. And I don't know that.

1138
01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:42.079
You know what was amazing about it, necessarily trans four. I thought,

1139
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:44.319
well, a lot of the stuff
in HE four, like I really,

1140
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:48.880
every extent extra Extreme I thought was
was really like, well, way

1141
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:54.640
better than E three. Yeah,
every no, every extent extra was definitely

1142
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:59.239
improved in becoming every extend extra extreme. Yeah, you're saying extremeness helped it

1143
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:02.399
extreme when it went extreme, it
went extreme when it went bungee jumping,

1144
01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:08.479
slammed a do. Yeah, it
definitely helped its case some. But yeah,

1145
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:10.520
it's still not still not gonna put
that. Yeah, yeah, probably

1146
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:13.199
not on top three, probably on
top three, there's Yeah. Bottom line,

1147
01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:15.079
there is a wealth of excellent games
for the Xbox libricide and just a

1148
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:18.520
few of our favorites. Alex,
you said PSN every Day Shooter would be

1149
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:23.279
the winner on everything. Yeah,
the only game on that list for Yeah,

1150
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:27.119
well, Paint Pain Paint. I
liked. Warhawk is technically a downloadable

1151
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:30.920
PSN game, and that's that's t
techn is also sweet. I own all

1152
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:34.079
of these these. Yeah, that's
that's pretty much. It's puzzle Fighter.

1153
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:40.279
I mean there's that that's on three
sixty as well, but puzzle puzzle Fighter

1154
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:45.439
actually has Yeah, I'd probably say
every Day Shooter Mortal Kombat too. Yeah,

1155
01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:50.760
and uh, I'm Warhawk, I
guess, and there are war Hawker

1156
01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:54.039
Tech and it's toss up. All
right, Well, Jeff, is a

1157
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:58.039
follow up question that you didn't want
to answer. Uh? This This listener

1158
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.680
asks if you could, uh have
one game remade for the Xbox Libricade.

1159
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:12.720
Why he does not specify arcade game, so you know, you could definitely

1160
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:16.159
go anywhere that you want. And
I'm gonna say I talked about this with

1161
01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:20.920
the Deffil earlier Apples to Apples,
the card game Apples to Apples I would

1162
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:24.560
love to see made into an Xbox
Libricade game. Sure, I'm not gonna

1163
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.319
sit here and try to explain what
apples to Apples is, but people who

1164
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:30.319
know what Apples to Apples is you
can see it translating very nicely into a

1165
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:36.199
a fun group based Xbox Libracade game. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I

1166
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:40.159
don't know. Journey Journey, Yeah, that'd be a good one. But

1167
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:43.279
really, I mean, would you
pay five bucks? Like? The problem

1168
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:45.720
is that at some point the old
arcade game has become a really bad deal.

1169
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:49.119
Like I was playing discs of Tron. I passed on it and I

1170
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:54.399
felt like a jerk. Why pay
five dollars for this? Yeah, you're

1171
01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:57.800
you are perpetuating a bad system by
by paying money for that. Yeah,

1172
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.319
and I bought regular Tron as well, no, neither of which are particularly

1173
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.279
great. Emulated versions of the game. Like they both feel kind of off.

1174
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:09.359
Yeah, yeah, what my answer
is, I love I love the

1175
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:13.760
original Tron an awful lot, and
I bought that and after that I did

1176
01:14:13.800 --> 01:14:17.760
not feel held by discs of Tron, but Alex any games final fight.

1177
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:21.800
So Alex wants the final fight for
Xbox Labricade I only player Arcade Final Fight.

1178
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:24.920
That's all. I want to want
Apples to Apples the card game,

1179
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:30.760
which I would could easily challenge,
you know, being a good casual multiplayer

1180
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:35.680
game experience. And Jeff can't decide
Samurai show Down too there, Jeff wants

1181
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:39.479
sam Show too. Yeah, I
play that, I'd be great and that

1182
01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:42.640
that's happening, I think. So
there you go to tad out on any

1183
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:47.159
puzzle Exchanger. Oh oh yeah,
I've just I've just blown your vines,

1184
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:54.079
haven't I known as money idle exchanger
in the Orient? All right, So

1185
01:14:54.159 --> 01:15:00.479
here's a question from al Wong in
Calgary, Alberta, Canada man because he's

1186
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:05.279
from Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
And this is a really long question,

1187
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:09.079
so I'm not going to ask the
whole thing, but basically he wants to

1188
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:12.000
know. He says, yeah,
so they're doing the rock or they're doing

1189
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.199
the guitar Hero Aerosmith thing, and
you guys think it's a bad idea and

1190
01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:18.600
we do. Uh. He wants
to know if Harmonics could just upload the

1191
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:24.039
songs into rock Band and steal their
thunder No, because they probably have an

1192
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:27.119
exclusive deal with Aerosmith. Yeah,
I'd like to I'd like to think that

1193
01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:32.680
Activision did the business on that and
prevented Aerosmith from from selling their songs to

1194
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:38.920
competing products. Like I'd almost suspect
that maybe that's why Train kept a rolling

1195
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:42.079
is the Aerosmith song and rock Band, because maybe that was one of the

1196
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:45.600
ones they didn't license for that game. Maybe maybe I just yeah, everything

1197
01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:48.800
about that deal screams we like,
we will not be able to get any

1198
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:53.640
Aerosmith song for a good year or
so until after this game has come out,

1199
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:59.239
Right, So I'm my guess is
no, All right, So there

1200
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:02.199
you go. I tend to agree. I imagine that Activision before they did

1201
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:04.800
this, you know, sewed up
all the exclusive deals for that kind of

1202
01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:08.479
stuff, and which is weird when
you like, do you think about like

1203
01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:13.880
where this is going, like locking
up exclusive rights to songs further your games

1204
01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:18.840
and stuff like that's really crazy.
It's a really it's a really crazy spot

1205
01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:21.319
for us to be in with rhythm
games now when you think about the history

1206
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:25.920
of just like them being super obscure
and now all of a sudden being these

1207
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:30.439
huge, huge industries under themselves or
Rhythm games didn't really license music that anyone

1208
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.680
gave a shit about. You know, it was just stuff that like,

1209
01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:34.800
you know, it's like the DDR
series, like everyone's in a while to

1210
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:38.920
be a frequency and amplitude. Yeah, I'd like to bring to your attention

1211
01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:42.479
frequency and amplitude. Yeah, you
know what, some of that stuff was

1212
01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.399
popular. A lot of it really
wasn't like those some of those remixes and

1213
01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:47.359
stuff that run those games. Sure, no, I mean they were definitely

1214
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:50.279
going for it for more dance music
than than out and out pop music.

1215
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:55.079
Staying that was not a big thing
until you know, Guitar Hero Game along,

1216
01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:57.399
and then of course, like Sony
is gonna enter I mean they've already

1217
01:16:57.439 --> 01:16:59.720
done so in Europe, but they're
about to enter the space in a big

1218
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:02.079
way here in the US when sing
Star comes out and like May and did

1219
01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:09.000
you see that there is downloadable tracks
for the most recent U karaoke Yeah,

1220
01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:13.359
yeah, Idol Karaoke Revolution beat It
one of them. But is that even

1221
01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:16.000
a singing game? Yeah, yeah, it's a Karaoke Revolution Revolution games.

1222
01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:23.039
There's some other American Idol games,
but they've done They've done two American Idol

1223
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:26.439
Karaoke Revolution games, the second one
and now they have downloadle content for it,

1224
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:30.079
So so beat it. What's the
weirder thing to me? More so

1225
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:33.600
than people getting exclusive because whatever,
that's just kind of part of the game

1226
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:38.840
is when people don't have exclusives and
then also don't have master tracks and then

1227
01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:43.479
everyone gets to record their own cover
version of the song, right, so

1228
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.840
you start getting multiple covers of the
same song in these different games, right,

1229
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:50.680
Like there's there's two different covers of
war Pigs spread out between rock Band

1230
01:17:50.720 --> 01:17:54.760
and Guitar Hero, right and some
of that, And even though Harmonics did

1231
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:59.439
both games. So yeah, it's
weird and uh so, so that's the

1232
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:03.319
answer to your question, sir.
Next question coming from some dude who wants

1233
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:08.000
to know will they ever make a
sequel to the two thousand and one PS

1234
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:11.680
two game Rumble Racing. It's one
of the best racing games ever. They

1235
01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:15.079
should. He's totally He's totally right. To ask that because Rumble Racing is

1236
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:19.039
radical. It did like you do
like fat spins in the air all the

1237
01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:21.920
time. Yeah exactly. It was
like you know, all those Hot Wheels

1238
01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:25.800
games that came out, they were
all not so good, Like those were

1239
01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:31.920
kind of like Rumble Racing, but
yeah, yeah, and NASCAR NASCAR Rumble

1240
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:36.760
also was was a similar game but
with NASCAR license in it. But yeah,

1241
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:43.439
yeah, exactly, that's that's the
Sebastian box here. Yeah, yeah,

1242
01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:45.520
Rumble Racing. I love that day. Like that and Tony Hawk three

1243
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:48.319
were out right around the same time, and those were like the two games

1244
01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:51.680
where you're like, oh, dude, the PS two as is awesome all

1245
01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:55.239
of a sudden, Like, holy
crap, the PS two all of a

1246
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:58.239
sudden is way better than the Dreamcast. What the hell were we thinking?

1247
01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:02.960
Next question it comes from Tom Buell. Tom asks, Hey, guys,

1248
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:06.119
if you could make your own flavor
of gatorade, what would you call it

1249
01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:11.680
and what would it taste like?
I don't you know. It's I think,

1250
01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:15.399
Tom fantastic question for the podcast.
But we don't have a large enough

1251
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:19.960
marketing departments or enough chemists on staff
here. We have a few, just

1252
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:25.119
not enough yeah, to the chemists
we do have are pretty busy. Yeah,

1253
01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:28.359
with street chemistry here. Do we
want to throw some ideas out there?

1254
01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:30.199
Anyway, let's just spitball. Let's
let's what what do you got here,

1255
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:38.960
alex Oh, put me on the
spot. I would Booberry Booberry and

1256
01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:42.479
it would be a ghost on the
front, and then it would be it

1257
01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:47.079
would be it would be champagne flavored, so you call it booberry taste Champagne

1258
01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:51.319
tastes like champagne, tastes like champagne. Sho, that's what ghost berry tastes.

1259
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:54.359
Well, that would be you would
be surprised, You would go,

1260
01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:57.640
oh, you would be scared after
you drink the Booberrians, like, this

1261
01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:00.880
doesn't taste like berry at all?
What's going on? You talk about that

1262
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:04.079
Warby voice? So yeah, that
that that's that's my idea. As a

1263
01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:08.439
totally unrelated I have no contributions for
this, but as an unrelated side.

1264
01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:13.000
Uh, yesterday, as I was
driving back back here, I saw that

1265
01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:16.760
Carl's Junior has cap and Crunch flavored
milk chakes. Oh yeah, I saw

1266
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:19.960
you saw a picture of that.
Don't toy with my emotions. I am

1267
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:23.840
not We should go there. We'll
go get them after this and well wow,

1268
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.199
all right, yeah, I gotta
try him out. Yes, I

1269
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:29.560
don't even want Carl's Junior, but
I want that. I never want Carls

1270
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.199
Junior because of their gross ass commercials. And oh I'm not a fan of

1271
01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:34.279
the food. Really, I am
a fan of food, but I don't

1272
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:36.399
really want any right now. It's
like, oh, the green burrito,

1273
01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:41.039
like the that most of them emerged
to Carls Junior green burrito. Yeah,

1274
01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:45.159
the green Britus burrito side gray stuff
and in a superstar yea. Yeah,

1275
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:48.399
they have a sizeable burrito that makes
it look like someone barthed on it.

1276
01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:53.199
Yeah, that'd be great, Jory, have those. Here's Paris Hilton watching

1277
01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:56.279
a car. Thanks, thanks for
advertising. There's a chicken sandwich that looks

1278
01:20:56.319 --> 01:20:59.640
like it has poop in it.
It doesn't get all over your face.

1279
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:04.640
It's not smeared all over your greasy
ma. I would call my I would

1280
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:09.119
call my gatorade black shock, black
shock. That's good. I would want

1281
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:11.399
it black. Yes, it would
be Yes, it would be a black

1282
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:15.039
liquid. And I would want it
to taste like like sweet tarts, like

1283
01:21:15.079 --> 01:21:17.159
if you like if you ate a
whole role of sweet Tarts all at once

1284
01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:20.199
like that. We were kind of
shocking, like, oh whoa kind like

1285
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:24.159
that? And we get little John
for the cover. All right, here's

1286
01:21:24.159 --> 01:21:28.680
a question from Sean Evans out of
Raleigh, North Carolina. Sean asks,

1287
01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:32.520
uh, hey, Jeff, Hey, in one of your GDC blog entries,

1288
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:35.720
you say that the problem with game
reviews is that no one reads them

1289
01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:40.800
anymore. I was wondering what ideas
you had to get people to pay more

1290
01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:44.399
attention to the actual written reviews.
What, okay, you're all right,

1291
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.560
he's let's let's let's give some context
for what this guy's asked. So at

1292
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:49.640
GDC there were a lot of different
panels and this one that he's talking about

1293
01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:53.880
was one where the press was on
the panel or at various members of the

1294
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:57.800
press. Andy McNamara from Game Informer, Brian Crecente from Cottaco, a couple

1295
01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:03.079
other guys got there and we're asked
questions that end guy Kroll from Newsweek had

1296
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:06.239
gotten from developers, and it wasn't. It didn't get you know, like

1297
01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:08.960
the whole thing is they're supposed to
be like, oh, it's gonna be

1298
01:22:08.960 --> 01:22:12.119
pretty fiery, but it never really
got fiery because they sucked up all the

1299
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:15.399
time talking about the nice stuff and
then never really got into the more harsh

1300
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:17.800
stuff. But someone there said that, you know, in kind of the

1301
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:24.479
as what's what is one of the
problems with aggregate review score sites is that

1302
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:28.239
it makes it so that no one
reads the reviews. I don't really think

1303
01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:31.000
that's a huge problem. I think
the ultimate goal of a review should be

1304
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:34.359
to get people the information that they
want, and if they don't want to

1305
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:39.439
read your review, that's their business, and I think it's up to the

1306
01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:44.560
authors to be writing more compelling reviews
that that demand to be read. You

1307
01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:46.039
know, a lot of people say
like, oh, game reviews shouldn't have

1308
01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:50.199
scores on them, which is ridiculous. It's just just you know, no,

1309
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:54.359
Well, that's that's absolutely wrong,
because if anything, these you know,

1310
01:22:54.600 --> 01:22:59.319
aggregate score sites prove that there is
a good portion of people that do

1311
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:01.800
want just a score and have a
rough idea of what the you know,

1312
01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:06.560
the average popular opinion of a game
is right, And that's that's perfectly valid.

1313
01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:12.359
Like that is actually the one valid
use for those sites is for consumers

1314
01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:15.359
that just want to get that kind
of quick fix of information. I think

1315
01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:18.159
that, yeah, I think if
people are finding that not enough people are

1316
01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:21.760
reading their reviews, they need to
start looking at the reviews they're writing and

1317
01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:26.760
and figure out ways to write better
reviews. Yeah. Yeah, it's like

1318
01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:29.399
writing if you're writing reviews that are
just like, here's everything on the back

1319
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:30.239
of the box, and at the
end of every paragraph, I'm going to

1320
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:34.119
tell you if that's any good or
not. You know that that's that's not

1321
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:36.760
going to keep people that don't work
in oh eight, No, no,

1322
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:41.520
it does not fly anymore. So
I think that, yeah, the video

1323
01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:45.199
game reviews have not changed as the
industry and the audience have, and so

1324
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:48.680
they you know, I think in
a lot of ways that's going to have

1325
01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:53.000
to be addressed. I think part
of it is that you just kind of

1326
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:56.439
at this point people need to start
sort of embracing subjectivity to a degree.

1327
01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:59.640
I mean, it's like reviews our
opinions, and as much as you know,

1328
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:01.479
it's just kind of like, you
know, yes, there are facts

1329
01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:05.199
in reviews, but it's you got
to kind of let your own personality in

1330
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:11.800
your own taste sort of guide that
guide reviews. You know. Yeah,

1331
01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:15.560
And I think that it's the idea, honestly for me of of people using

1332
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:24.079
these aggregate review score sites to make
purchasing decisions seems super crazy to me because

1333
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:28.680
that's that's that is completely devoid of
any context whatsoever. Is It's just right,

1334
01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:30.520
Yeah, it's like a bunch of
different at best. At best they

1335
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:33.479
give you like a sentence from the
review. It's like, that doesn't tell

1336
01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:38.000
you anything about you know, your
own personal likes or dislikes. I think,

1337
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:41.720
you know, like for me personally, frame rate's a very big deal

1338
01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:45.000
to me in games. Yeah,
when a game as a sketchy frame rate,

1339
01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:46.760
that can really that really takes away
from it. Other people that might

1340
01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:49.760
not be a big deal, right, So I think, you know,

1341
01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:53.079
you need to read the review and
find out, you know, what's wrong

1342
01:24:53.159 --> 01:24:55.960
with it, you know, and
and and compare that to your own personal

1343
01:24:56.039 --> 01:24:59.439
likes and dislikes. And then furthermore, you know, I feel like where

1344
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:03.640
that review you is coming from specifically
makes a difference. And that's something that

1345
01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:06.239
I mean, film criticism has had
for a long time as those kind of

1346
01:25:06.359 --> 01:25:12.319
named people that you can make those
connections with and decide if you're if you

1347
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:14.479
know, it's like, well,
I never agree with michelsal Or. I

1348
01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.319
never get with Peter whatever from Rolling
Stone, right, and it gets back

1349
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:23.199
into that hole, like you know, every six months or something, some

1350
01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:27.000
of pipes up, goes, where's
the Lester Bangs of game journalism? Yeah,

1351
01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:30.880
and that's and you know they don't
really want that, no, they

1352
01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:36.039
but they want the Pauline Kale of
game criticism. They want they want personalities

1353
01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:40.159
that they can kind of you know, look to time and time again and

1354
01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:42.319
to see, you know, that
that match up with their own taste.

1355
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:44.840
You know, they want people that
they can kind of just sort of latch

1356
01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:47.039
onto in that regard, and there
hasn't been I mean more, I think

1357
01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:50.039
more and more now you're starting to
see that there are a lot there.

1358
01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:53.439
There are names that are starting to
pop up and kind of math. I

1359
01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:57.840
think that's just the maturation of games
and the people to play them. So

1360
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.600
I guess that, Yeah, there's
there's reviews, that's there's a lot on

1361
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:03.680
them. Yeah, there's there's our
little triotise on game criticism. Sean,

1362
01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:09.640
Sean, thanks for writing in.
Next question comes in from you and in

1363
01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:16.319
Aberdeen that's in Scotland, y'all,
word uh you and is in crisis because

1364
01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:23.319
he is stoked about Street Fighter four
but he is not stoked about playing Street

1365
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:28.239
Fighter four on his Xbox three sixty
D pad. Oh, I hear your

1366
01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:31.479
brother. Uh, Now you are
our two gentlemen in the rarefied position of

1367
01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:38.840
having actually played Street Fighter four,
albeit in an arcade type environment. What

1368
01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:41.159
are your thoughts on this? Is
this going to be an issue for people?

1369
01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:43.760
Or is this going to be a
deal breaker as far as Yeah,

1370
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:45.640
if if you don't like the Xbox
three sixty dpad, you're not gonna like

1371
01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:48.039
the way this game play is because
it plays like street Fighter. Yeah,

1372
01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:50.720
it plays exactly like Street Fighter two, and a lot of a lot,

1373
01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:54.560
a lot, a lot a lot
of the ways the game speeds a little

1374
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:57.199
different, in the timing will be
a little different, but it's do you

1375
01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:00.720
think you're still making dragon punch motion
and charging up moves? And do you

1376
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:04.319
think that the release of this game
on the Xbox three sixty will warrant some

1377
01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:11.239
crazy hoary well hory already put out
They put out Virtual Fighter five. What

1378
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:15.560
I'm talking about like a like a
classic pad for the three sixty with you

1379
01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:16.840
know, deep pad stuff on it, like you like it? No,

1380
01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:21.840
I think if anyone is going to
be crazy enough to to need something like

1381
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:26.000
that for this game, they're gonna
want to just get the Virtual Fighter sticks.

1382
01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:30.239
I've never liked using a deep pad
for any I haven't had too much

1383
01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:32.880
trouble with the three sixties deep pad
here comes up here and there, but

1384
01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:36.319
but I've never liked using any deep
pad for it. Like, I'm all

1385
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:40.840
the way with a joystick. So
your street Fighter, I Street Fighters,

1386
01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:43.359
your game comes up through the arcades, So that's how you like playing it,

1387
01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:46.039
yep, I think I probably played
my best street Fighter with a Supernintendo

1388
01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:49.880
controller. Ye. Any way to
just plug a Super Nintendo controller into three

1389
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:54.079
six, I'm sure. I'm sure
someone probably has made some kind of weird

1390
01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:57.079
adapter by now there's like a USB
version of it. But yeah, those

1391
01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:00.840
those hoary sticks, or I think
I want to say it's hoary those sticks

1392
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:03.880
that came out alongside Virtual Fight or
five are high quality joysticks. Yeah,

1393
01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:08.680
as long as as long as Street
Fighter four has full on button remapping,

1394
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:11.359
in which usually Capcom has been very
good about that, you should be able

1395
01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:14.319
to just get one of those and
be straight. But it is a Japanese

1396
01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:18.079
style joystick. It's a ball,
not a bat, so i'd also convex

1397
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:21.760
instead of concave buttons. I would
hazard to guess that there is probably some

1398
01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:26.279
sort of deal going on where there
will be yet another joy Yeah. Probably

1399
01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:29.439
they'll probably, but just another one
of these hoary sticks. Yeah, just

1400
01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:32.079
with with you on it instead of
a Kira. Yeah, big difference.

1401
01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:36.920
We'll be doing a spot instead of
throwing a fireball. Way different. Three

1402
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:41.119
sixty deep pads a deal break for
you. Maybe look at another version,

1403
01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:45.439
or maybe look at getting one of
these third party controllers. Uh. Next

1404
01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:50.680
question comes from Michael in the UK. Yeah, kids keep coming, sir.

1405
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:54.880
Okay, a lot of email comes
in here, all right. Uh,

1406
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:58.479
podcast is now three hours long.
Michael. It's a very special episode

1407
01:28:58.520 --> 01:29:00.880
of the Air Pointing Down podcast.
It's very touching. This one. Jeff

1408
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:03.760
gets cooked on drugs and then we
have to have a talk with him about

1409
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:11.720
it. This is the one where
he gets molested. Uh, Michael is

1410
01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:15.640
this is a dirty movie? Is
riding into uh to talk about drinks?

1411
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:19.159
Okay? Great? The envy that
he has, all right, Michael,

1412
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:24.119
let's go out for drinks. Drinks. Mike says that in the UK,

1413
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:30.640
apparently Gatorade and Mountain dew. Right, Yeah, so much over there.

1414
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:32.600
Yeah, there's no Gatorade in the
UK. Luca's aid, as as close

1415
01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:34.560
as you can get, I think
at all. No, they do not

1416
01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:38.439
sell gatorade in the UK. How
do they live? Like, what do

1417
01:29:38.479 --> 01:29:41.600
they do drink after they've been hung
over? More beers? They just go

1418
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:45.079
back to the pub. Wow,
that's one way to do it. Yeah.

1419
01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:47.960
Uh, And he goes on to
talk about how he has nearly purchased

1420
01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:53.000
crates of Code Red for the equivalent
of about fifty bucks a pop, which

1421
01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:55.960
I'm gonna say, good investment,
Mike. Yeah, yeah, for for

1422
01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:59.640
a for a crate. Fifty bucks
for a crate. Wait, can you

1423
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:02.600
even get code read here? Now? Well this at this time of year,

1424
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:05.159
probably not. No, No,
code Red's full time. Code Red

1425
01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:09.760
is all the way okay, because
they stopped selling it at the Taco bell

1426
01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:12.199
and I was super bummed about.
Yeah, that's because they they rotated in

1427
01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:15.680
that Baja Blast flavor which is not
which is which is awesome. Which they

1428
01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:17.560
don't even sell that in bottles,
They just sell it a Taco Bella.

1429
01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:21.119
I want my Code Red back,
damn it. So so Michael goes on

1430
01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:26.119
to list a few of his favorite
UK only drinks are Terry seven Up is

1431
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:28.840
one of his lists, and that's
it. Yeah, they sold that here.

1432
01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:30.359
I don't think they sell it here
anymore though, do they. Yeah?

1433
01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:33.600
Yeah, I haven't seen it.
I can't stand it. Never Like

1434
01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:36.920
Cherry seven Up, I'm a fan, so I'm never glad to hear that's

1435
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:43.560
still popping off in the UK.
Goes on to discuss Pepsi Max coffee Chino.

1436
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:45.800
If they have heard of this Pepsi
Max. I mean, I've heard

1437
01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:49.479
what I've heard. I've heard of
the coffee Pepsi before, like Coke Black.

1438
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:53.399
I was gonna say, it's probably
a lot like Cooke Black, but

1439
01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:57.479
not sold in the US, which
I heard Coke Black was going away.

1440
01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:00.560
I would hope so because I heard
that, like of O eight, they

1441
01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:02.159
were gonna stop making it. But
I've still seen it around and I've still

1442
01:31:02.399 --> 01:31:05.720
like she's probably it's probably a lot
of backstocks. Yeah, hopefully hopefully it's

1443
01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:11.640
clear will be carrying it exclusive right
soon Extreme Value Retailers Brothers and Sisters.

1444
01:31:12.720 --> 01:31:17.079
Michael then ends this email with revelatory
bit of information. Okay, I'm gonna

1445
01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:20.319
sit up for this, please do
because you're gonna knock you back into your

1446
01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:24.359
seat, and we don't want you
all the way back in your seats then

1447
01:31:24.439 --> 01:31:28.439
no, Lord knows what you'll be
knocked into. Uh. He says that

1448
01:31:28.600 --> 01:31:35.079
nothing can compare to Panda Pops Anniversary
party cake flavor, which tastes exactly like

1449
01:31:35.279 --> 01:31:42.479
sponge cake and jam harrowing heroin.
Yeah, that's what it sounds like to

1450
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:45.720
me. It's pretty addictive. It's
it sounds like pure China white as far

1451
01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:50.800
as cake flavored soda. Uh,
I'd say the closest cake. No,

1452
01:31:50.920 --> 01:31:54.880
no, no, sponge sponge cake. I thought. Have you guys seen

1453
01:31:54.920 --> 01:32:01.520
the new Doctor Pepper monstrosity? No
affront to God that it's chocolate cherry Doctor

1454
01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:05.840
Pepper. Oh y, or no, it's I'm sorry, it's chocolate cherry

1455
01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:10.800
diet Doctor Pepper even better because for
whatever reason, they can't make a regular,

1456
01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:14.000
non diet chocolate soda. Yeah.
Do you ever know, like when

1457
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:15.800
they used to sell chocolate soda,
like you could never find regular it's always

1458
01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:19.520
diet chocolates chocolate. I think that's
because regular chocolate soda would just kill you.

1459
01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:24.000
It would just let you know,
it would happily let it. It's

1460
01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:30.279
just chocolate serp. Right, Yeah, sounds really good pop Top chocolate soda.

1461
01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:33.000
Well, Michael, if you could
send us some of this pop Anniversary

1462
01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:36.680
Party cave flavor, we will drink
it here on the podcast and review it

1463
01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:41.439
and tell people what we think about
it. Uh. And actually that goes

1464
01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:44.760
for any of our UK listeners,
right, anyone outside the US that has

1465
01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:46.199
any beverage at all that they want
to ship, email it to us.

1466
01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:48.880
Well, we'll send you a shipp
address. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes,

1467
01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:53.359
And I'm totally serious about that.
Podcast at airpoint down dot com send

1468
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:57.720
us weird soda. You will drink
it, all right. Uh so that's

1469
01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:00.359
gonna do it for this edition of
the Air Pointing Down podcast. Oh god,

1470
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:02.680
I'm gonna have to whittle this one
down a little bit, I hope.

1471
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:05.399
So. Uh no, this is
this is, This one's gonna be

1472
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:09.880
the super long one because it's a
very special week. It is a very

1473
01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:14.199
special week, it's true. Uh
But anyways, that's it. We're done

1474
01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:17.079
sending your emails to podcast at air
pointing down dot com. If you want

1475
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:21.039
to something, if you want to
send us drinks, uh, if not,

1476
01:33:21.319 --> 01:33:49.159
until next time, all right,
turn these machines back on for a

1477
01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:57.319
special addendum for this for this this
odd the Machine's back on very long episode

1478
01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:02.560
of the air Pointing Down podcast.
Earlier in this podcast, we were discussing,

1479
01:34:02.920 --> 01:34:08.920
uh milkshakes, milk shakes, drinking
them up. Yeah, uh,

1480
01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:13.399
talking about Carl's Junior having a cap
and Crunch milkshake. And then we actually

1481
01:34:13.439 --> 01:34:16.119
just went and got goddamn capa and
Crunch milk shakes from the Carls Junior.

1482
01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:18.920
We had to drive two towns.
We had to drive to another town to

1483
01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:21.600
get this, because there's no Carl's
Junior in this god awful town that Jeff

1484
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:26.960
lives in, you know, the
Carl's Junior. Two towns over Shelbyville.

1485
01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:30.199
The ironic thing is that we didn't
actually get We went and ate food somewhere

1486
01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:33.359
else. Yeah, into the arms. We went to the Arby's and I

1487
01:34:33.479 --> 01:34:36.600
had bad roast beef and you had
good roast beef. I had a good

1488
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:39.720
turkey, saying which I don't know. I'm not gonna let you use the

1489
01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:43.920
Internet as a platform for you to
speak ill of Arby's. Arby's very Goodby's

1490
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:48.880
is awesome, were very good.
But everything like Arby's serves food in such

1491
01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:50.880
a way that I can just order
it and be done. I don't have

1492
01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:58.319
to tell them to not put stuff
on it because they because it's exactly they

1493
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:00.960
don't put any flavor into an of
their food. They say, well,

1494
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:03.920
instead of flavor, let's just put
salt. Yeah, salt is a flavor.

1495
01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:06.560
Here's some salt, like delicious meat. And you can get an Arby's

1496
01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:10.760
melt, which is meat with cheese. Anyway, you can get a beat

1497
01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:13.560
with cheddar, which is meat with
cheese. Also, fuck you, Alex.

1498
01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:15.720
The point. The point is that
Arby's. I had those those loaded

1499
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:21.359
potato bites, which were like a
potato skin but in a deep fried formata,

1500
01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:25.039
and it was awful. I mean, you know, yeah, potato

1501
01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:28.439
skins are awful regardless of how you
have them. But and yet you ordered

1502
01:35:28.479 --> 01:35:30.239
them. I had to find out. Yeah, well I had to know.

1503
01:35:30.479 --> 01:35:33.079
The moral of this story is that
we went and got milkshakes after that.

1504
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:38.600
I don't really if that counts as
a moral, but we got them,

1505
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:43.000
and I made sure that nobody drank
them in the car. So you

1506
01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:46.960
have them, Yeah, Alex smelt
his. I'm now actually going to test

1507
01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:51.359
test the nose on this smells like
Captain Crunch. It really wow, wow,

1508
01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:54.920
it really does smell like Captain Crunch. That smells like a bowl of

1509
01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:58.279
Captain Crunch. But I know what
I'm looking at. There is dissonance between

1510
01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:01.000
what my eyes are seeing and what
my nose smelling. This is a milkshake.

1511
01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:04.359
It's a milkshake, not a bowl
of cereal, which is what it

1512
01:36:04.399 --> 01:36:09.239
smells like. Okay, so times, so yeah, let's let's taste test

1513
01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:16.760
it on two three. Go,
Wow, that really tastes like Captain Crunch.

1514
01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:25.119
Yeah, I'm concerned. Yeah,
I'm concerned with how they got Captain

1515
01:36:25.159 --> 01:36:30.159
Crunch taste into this milkshake at times. At times it tastes almost like I'm

1516
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:35.319
eating ice cream out of a waffle
cone, you know, like it's kind

1517
01:36:35.319 --> 01:36:39.760
of like a Captain Crunch waffle coney
kind of flavor. This is sweet,

1518
01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:42.840
It's just not like, but the
sweetness is coming from the milkshake side of

1519
01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:45.000
it, not the Captain Crunch side
of it. Yes, the thing that

1520
01:36:45.079 --> 01:36:48.920
makes it taste like Captain Crunch is
not the sweetness. It's the other thing

1521
01:36:49.199 --> 01:36:54.199
that is in Captain Crunch. Right, It's like Donkey Kong cereal, which

1522
01:36:54.279 --> 01:37:00.920
was just Captain crunch, but barrels
no, because that was still cereal.

1523
01:37:01.720 --> 01:37:05.920
Well, well, yeah, but
they were barrels. Yeah, because Donkey

1524
01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:11.560
Kong threw barrels. That's the mind
blowing. That's got a chunk. Yeah,

1525
01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:14.800
there's a little chunks and there are
there are definitely pieces of Captain Crunch

1526
01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:17.039
in here. Yeah awesome. Oh
yeah, some sort of blended cereal.

1527
01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:21.079
Yeah there is, Yeah, something
masquerading as Captain. There's something caught in

1528
01:37:21.119 --> 01:37:24.359
my teeth that makes it feel like
I just ate a bowl of Captain Crunch.

1529
01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:29.159
Good. Now, if only they'd
make a crunch berry milkshake, you

1530
01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:31.800
know that has to be next.
Yeah, I'm gonna say that the chunks

1531
01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:38.079
are fucking this up for me.
I really like it. It's just the

1532
01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:40.800
same principle. Isn't like in an
Oreo milkshake, but instead of crunching up

1533
01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:47.520
Oreo is they crushed up Captain Crunch. Yeah, dad, Yeah, No,

1534
01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:54.520
I'm gonna give this four out of
five four stars. I'm gonna give

1535
01:37:54.520 --> 01:37:57.840
it. I'm gonna give it a
pass. I don't dislike it. I

1536
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.000
will never order one again for the
rest of my life. It's maybe like

1537
01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:04.039
a three out of five. This
is what you should rent first. Yeah,

1538
01:38:04.640 --> 01:38:08.640
yeah, I rent this milkshake and
make sure you like it. I

1539
01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:11.680
like it a lot. If I
were near a Carl's Junior and needed a

1540
01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:15.159
milkshake, I would get I would
get another one of these, all right,

1541
01:38:15.479 --> 01:38:17.840
so you have it. I feel
like they do make good on their

1542
01:38:17.880 --> 01:38:24.560
promise of Captain Crunch's smolkeshake. Yeah, in that regard success agreed. The

1543
01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:27.479
greater question that I think you have
to ask yourself before you make this purchase

1544
01:38:27.520 --> 01:38:30.359
yourself is do you want a Captain
Crunch milkshake? Yes, I'm going to

1545
01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:33.960
say yes, yes, Why do
you guys? I'm saying for the listener

1546
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:36.600
at home. The listener at home
is going to do what we say unless

1547
01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:41.960
we say is yes. Or the
listener in their car, unless the car

1548
01:38:42.119 --> 01:38:45.479
is their home or the listener well
still both apply yea or throu saying at

1549
01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:51.439
a construction site, perhaps at the
train on a train and transcontinental train.

1550
01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:54.760
Hopefully it's in a car, because
you could drive to a carl Junior.

1551
01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:58.199
Sure you can't take a train to
Carl's Junior unless the train has a Carl's

1552
01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:01.319
Junior in it, or there's a
practice Carls Junior at the train station,

1553
01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:04.600
which I bet they wouldn't have these
because it's be one of those weird like

1554
01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:10.359
airports style Carls Juniors. Yeah,
that has like has the Burger special burgers

1555
01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:15.199
they had forty years ago and they're
nine dollars more. We have the twelve

1556
01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:19.159
dollars burger here that we still call
it the six dollars burger. Yeah,

1557
01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:24.760
and if it gets all over your
face, well please wipe off before getting

1558
01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:31.399
on board. Do everything else to
add about this monstrosity of a wood item.

1559
01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:33.560
No, but I guess you know
we should say that, you know,

1560
01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:35.600
people that listened all the way through
this, that it's gonna be a

1561
01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:43.439
real big week, agreed, And
not just for milk shakes, not just

1562
01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:47.800
for milk shakes, but but but
so you know, stay tuned to stuff

1563
01:39:48.039 --> 01:39:51.079
because there's gonna be some stuff going
down later this week's jump it off.

1564
01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:55.439
It's gonna blow your damn eyes fantastic, all right, thanks for listening,