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That being said, I 98 00:07:44,959 --> 00:07:50,160 have another one. This one's controversial, okay, says twenty twenty three NEC 99 00:07:50,920 --> 00:08:01,560 Kitchen Island slash Peninsula receptacles. Can they be installed under countertops or not? 100 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:07,879 I say no, But I've had people say that if a receptacle is optional 101 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:16,480 and not technically required, it doesn't have to follow the rules under required receptacles. 102 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,600 To me, this is just a result in written poorly written code, 103 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:26,040 and I'm sure it will be clarified in the twenty twenty six because we all 104 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:31,320 know what the intention was. Looking forward to your take. Thank you. 105 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:39,600 Okay. So I have done podcasts and videos on this before. It's one 106 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:45,200 of those things where it took a lot of people that supposedly talked about children 107 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,039 getting hurt by people pulling things, chords off counters and all this kind of 108 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:50,919 stuff. I never bought into all of that. And it's not because I'm 109 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:56,879 a you know, I'm a hater. That that's not the reason. That's 110 00:08:56,919 --> 00:09:01,879 not the reason. I just remember that prior to the twenty twenty three and 111 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:05,080 I'll explain it. But prior to that, there was so much talk about 112 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:11,320 people getting injured or hurt because people were putting things like crock pots and other 113 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:15,879 things on these islands during holidays and they had no receptacles there, or they 114 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:20,639 didn't have enough receptacles that people were extringing extension chords over and then people were 115 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,080 running into those and pulling them off, and so you know, and I 116 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:31,000 also remember that the IAI and many other inspection authorities were crying that there wasn't 117 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,720 enough receptacle outlets at islands or peninsulas. And that's why we went from the 118 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:41,039 original which was a kind of scenario where you're looking at at twelve by twenty 119 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,639 four, and they went to, well, let's go to a square foot 120 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,240 method. First nine square feet gets one, and every eighteen square feet after 121 00:09:48,279 --> 00:09:52,120 that gets another because they felt we didn't have enough. Then all of a 122 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:58,039 sudden, out of nowhere. You know, it's not like we had a 123 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,000 massive run people dying from this or kids getting hurt. I mean, again, 124 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:07,759 there is a certain level of accountability and responsibility. We can't necessarily save 125 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:13,360 everybody from themselves. But it seems like when it came to this time in 126 00:10:13,399 --> 00:10:16,720 the twenty twenty three, during that development stage, it seems like everybody jumped 127 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:20,360 on the bandwagon that oh, we don't need them, And if you are 128 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,039 going to have them, then the receptacle has to be above or that can 129 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,440 be in the surface or pop above it. As long as they're not more 130 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:31,840 than twenty inches, then you have there. Then you can have the receptacle 131 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:35,600 outlet, or if you do want them at the island or peninsula, then 132 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:41,879 they have to be one or above and it can't be higher than twenty inches, 133 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,240 right, Okay, So basically that eliminated the ability to have it below 134 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,360 the countertop. And if you remember in previous code cycles, it could be 135 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:56,240 below the countertop if it was flat across the surface you had no backsplash. 136 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:01,480 It's just an ireland or peninsula with no countertop with no backsplash, for example. 137 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,279 Then you're able to put the receptacle below it as long as it's not 138 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:09,360 under an overhang more than six inches from the base, or any part of 139 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:16,159 the receptacle is not down below more than twelve inches. Okay. So that's 140 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,720 where we were, And so twenty twenty three comes around and it removes all 141 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:24,440 that and it puts a provision that says, okay, you're not required to 142 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,960 have the receptacle outlets at an eyland or peninsular, but you have to make 143 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,559 sure that there's provisions there for the future in case somebody wants to put one, 144 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,679 and oh, by the way, if they want to put one, 145 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:39,679 then they can, but then they have to follow all the rules that say 146 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,240 that again that it has to be on or above and not more than twenty 147 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:48,480 inches above. So you didn't have any provision to put them below. Okay, 148 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,600 Now, I think one of the things that confuses folks is that you 149 00:11:54,639 --> 00:12:00,200 could always have a receptacle that was lower than twelve inches below the countertip. 150 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:05,519 It just couldn't serve the countertop. So there are many situations where you might 151 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,600 have an island that was built instead of being cabinets that you butt together, 152 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:13,200 and that's not really a wall. That's just cabinets, and so they wouldn't 153 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,159 really qualify as wall space because it's just cabinets. But there are many occasions 154 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:24,120 where those islands are built with a wall and then the cabinets butt against it. 155 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,879 Well, if that's the case, then what you have is a wall, 156 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,080 and if it's two feet or more, then it's required to have receptacles 157 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:35,519 just like any other wall space. That would be in your kitchen or any 158 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:41,960 other room, right. So I think the problem with that is is that, 159 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,960 yes, you could have a receptacle down lower, it just wasn't there 160 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,039 to serve the countertop. So any of them that are to serve the countertop 161 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,919 has to follow these rules. So the question is, can I have receptacles 162 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,759 below the countertop in the cabinet? Well, we do that all the time, 163 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,960 right, I mean there's receptacles in there for a cordon plug, for 164 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:09,320 garbage disposer or incinct waste disposer as everybody likes to say, or a dishwasher, 165 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:16,000 so there's there's allowances. Obviously, we have receptacles underneath the counter and 166 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:24,480 so the question is can I put a receptacle in the cabinet of can I 167 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:30,879 put it in the counter below the counter but it's not serving the counter Then 168 00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:35,600 the answer is yes, We've been doing that forever. So the question really 169 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:43,120 has to be am I putting the receptacle in to use to serve the counter 170 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:48,320 or am I putting the receptacle in there because it's now considered wall space and 171 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,879 I'm trying to serve you know, two ten fifty two A the wall space 172 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:56,840 requirement if that's what it's in there to serve the requirement for the wall space, 173 00:13:56,039 --> 00:14:00,840 then it's not there to serve the countertop or work surface. It's perfectly 174 00:14:00,879 --> 00:14:09,200 okay, it's perfectly fine, you understand. Can I have receptacles that are 175 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,399 inside of the cabinet. Obviously we've been doing that forever, so that's fine 176 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:20,039 there for that need. Okay. So I think that the question is can. 177 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,919 I think what they're asking is no, I want to put a receptacle 178 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,840 on the side of my cabinet that is down twelve inches like it was before, 179 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,759 and since there's no overhang rule, this is you know, and say 180 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:37,320 that it's not to serve the countertop. Well, that's where we get into 181 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,960 a little bit of an iffy line, because you know, an HJ is 182 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,080 going to see it close to the countertop and they're going to say, you 183 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,960 know what, you're putting that in to serve the countertop. You're not putting 184 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,799 it into serve a wall space requirement. So there's going to have to be 185 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:56,000 and that's the thing. Everybody wants the NEC to be so black and white, 186 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,879 and it really can't be. And it's up to the HJ. It's 187 00:14:58,879 --> 00:15:01,000 going to have to make those decis visions. And that's why you need inspectors 188 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,960 that are very open minded and understand that you know what we're dealing with. 189 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:11,039 Because if I'm an inspector and I see a receptacle six inches down from the 190 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:15,840 top of the countertop, uh, and I'm in the twenty twenty three NEC, 191 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:18,840 then I'm going to think that receptacle is to serve that countertop, and 192 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,480 if that's the case, that would be a violation. Right. But if 193 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:26,559 I see one on the cabinet that is down low, and I noticed that 194 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,360 this happens to qualify as wall space, if it's like a framed up wall 195 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:35,360 that the cabinets are pushed against that creates the island or whatnot, then Uh, 196 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:39,879 then I'm going to look at it and go, Okay, then that 197 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:43,120 that is a wall space requirement, and I'm going to allow that receptacle to 198 00:15:43,159 --> 00:15:46,480 be there. So I think that's kind of the line they have to they 199 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:52,720 have to cross, just because I think the key here is is that receptacle 200 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:58,440 outlet installed to serve the countertop or could it be construed that it's there to 201 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,240 serve because you're putting it up closer to the countertop. If that's the case, 202 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:04,240 then I think you have a problem at least the way the twenty twenty 203 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,399 three code is written. Now, we're going to get some relief from that 204 00:16:08,679 --> 00:16:14,159 in the twenty twenty six it's not a total relief. It has a lot 205 00:16:14,159 --> 00:16:18,480 to do with drawers and how you would place the receptacle outlet in the drawer 206 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,360 and all this other stuff that's going to come out, and it's still being 207 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,600 voted on, so I don't want to go into that yet. Well, 208 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:30,080 obviously talk about that in future episodes or what they're intending to do at that 209 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,399 code panel two. I'm not altogether sold, but it does give a little 210 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:37,039 relief, so hang tight. But for many of you, that's a long 211 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:41,080 way down the road. So in twenty twenty three, that's my opinion on 212 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,480 it. Hopefully that is helpful to you. But again, if you want 213 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,879 to get around that, just put the receptacle down low. If it's to 214 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:56,200 meet a wall space requirement, and if it's not to serve a countertop, 215 00:16:56,879 --> 00:17:00,320 and you put it down lower like it's normal eighteen inches twenty then I think 216 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,440 your argument could be that it is not there to serve the countertop. It 217 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,640 is there because you have an option that you can put receptacles pretty much anywhere 218 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,880 you want that type of thing, right, and that's what you choose. 219 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,039 It is obviously not going to serve the countertop. Now you're going to have 220 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:18,960 some guys that go, dude, if you put it on the island at 221 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,839 all, that I'm thinking it's there because you want it to serve the countertop 222 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,039 or a highland. Well, you know what, I can't. I can't 223 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:29,640 tell you what the inspector's going to think. And the code is not written 224 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,440 that way, and everybody would love it to be. But they're the same 225 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,640 people that gripe that the code requires too much or it's too deep, and 226 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,759 it makes things difficult. So you know, you can't win for losing in 227 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:44,759 some cases a code. They're making it this way, and the HJ is 228 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:47,440 going to have to make the ultimate decision. But I can tell you if 229 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,079 you put it up close to the counter I'm going to say it's there to 230 00:17:49,079 --> 00:17:52,200 serve the counter and under twenty twenty three it can't be. It's got to 231 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,200 be orner above and not higher than twenty inches. And I'm going to say 232 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,880 anything that's remotely close to the countertop or the work surface is being installed to 233 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:06,000 serve that work surface, and that would be a violation. Does that mean 234 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:10,839 again that I can't put receptacles inside the cabinet for whatever reason, for specific 235 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,160 applians or whatnot. Absolutely, I don't see anything that would say you can't 236 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,759 do that, because again I can put you know, you know the spacing 237 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:23,039 rules in a house six foot twelve foot rule typically under the two ten fifty 238 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:30,680 U A well and more specifically A one. I think that you could put 239 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,160 them every two feet if you wanted. It's okay, So I think it's 240 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,880 the same scenario here, But it's all the intent of where you're putting that 241 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,720 outlet, a receptacle outlet. That's the that's the intent here that you've got 242 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,359 to be aware of. Okay, all right, hopefully I answered that question 243 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,880 for you. I went a little deeper than I probably should have gone with 244 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,799 that one, but hey, it's one of those things where you want to 245 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,160 make sure you're answering folks questions and being as deep as you can. And 246 00:18:56,519 --> 00:19:00,079 you know, I tell people they don't like my Long Window podcast, and 247 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:07,200 they have every right to not listen. That's your prerogative. All right, 248 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,240 So let's see here, let's go to another question that was submitted, and 249 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:15,400 this question was submitted again. By the way, folks, all of these 250 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:19,799 questions are submitted through Paul Abernathy dot com. Again, it's a free service, 251 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,960 Okay. I don't have to beg you to do it. I got 252 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,880 plenty of questions that I can do. But you know that is one way 253 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,039 that is that we kind of give back to the industry and answering people's questions. 254 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:37,880 You don't have to agree with my opinion. Again, I'm gonna give 255 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:44,599 you code references where necessary, right, and you know, so where it's 256 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:48,680 necessary to give them to support it where otherwise you're just asking my thought on 257 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:52,359 something. We'll do our best to do that. Okay. The next question 258 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,799 comes and says, hey, Paul, I'm getting confused. Confused with Article 259 00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:04,799 two twenty five thirty concerning brand circuits to a detached garage. Let's say that 260 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,920 a detached garage has a single one hundred and twenty volt branch circuits applying it 261 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:17,480 to serve the general lights and receptacles. But now they need an EV charger. 262 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:23,200 Okay, says can a separate EV charger branch circuit be run to forty 263 00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:30,400 volts let's say sixty amps and have a means of disconnect at the detached structure, 264 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,680 along with the one hundred and twenty vault branch circuit having its own means 265 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:40,960 of disconnect, or would the one twenty volt branch circuit have to be abandoned 266 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:45,240 and a new feeder pulled to be large enough to handle the original one hundred 267 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:52,160 and twenty vault loads and the new two hundred and forty volt ev charger loads. 268 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:57,240 The long winded, the longer winded the explanation, the better I'm looking 269 00:20:57,279 --> 00:21:03,759 to understand this as much as poss and not finding reliable enough information. Well, 270 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:07,839 there's a problem with social media right there. I'm still on the twenty 271 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,799 seventeen code, but newer, updated explanations are welcome since the majority of states 272 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:18,480 are on the twenty twenty. Thank you for the content as always. Okay, 273 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:22,680 thanks for the question. We're going to use the twenty twenty three. 274 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,480 So again, you want the latest code, you say twenty twenty, But 275 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,519 you know, I kind of go to the latest code and it is not 276 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:36,440 any significant changes in this that I see that would warrant it doing any earlier 277 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,880 code. So that we can be a little more general to all the people 278 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,960 that will be listening. As your code cycles start to change and you start 279 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,519 going to twenty twenty three, the twenty twenty is going to be similar. 280 00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:51,480 There is no that I don't see any real change in this, so it's 281 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,200 not going to affect my answer. Okay, So the first thing you're thinking 282 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,559 about here, detached structure. It's very much like a service in a sense. 283 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:02,240 You cannot how many services can you have to a building? Well, 284 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:04,480 other than some other allowances, you have one service to a building. I 285 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:10,200 mean, that's it. Now there's other allowances to be able to do that, 286 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:12,039 and you just have to get you know, you have to get familiar 287 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:18,079 with them into thirty dot two right number of services. But this is different 288 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:25,519 because this one, this twenty five dot thirty is under part two of two 289 00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:30,119 twenty five and it's talking about buildings or other structures supplied by feeders or brand 290 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,559 circuits. So you admittedly, what you have is a brand circuit running to 291 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,720 that detached structure and you're picking up the lights and you're picking up the receptacle. 292 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,759 That's perfectly acceptable. That is one of the allowances there. You don't 293 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:48,559 have to have a feeder going to remote distribution panel there that's perfectly allowed to 294 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:52,079 do what you've done or what they've done. So the question here is they 295 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,960 really want to bring another brand circuit to this detached structure. Okay, So 296 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:00,880 here's what it says in two twenty five dot com and it's titled number of 297 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:06,240 supplies because obviously it's like two thirty dot two, but we're not talking about 298 00:23:06,759 --> 00:23:11,200 number of services. This is supplies. It says a building or other structure 299 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:17,839 that is served by a brand circuit or a feeder on the load side of 300 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,839 a service disconnecting means and obviously this would be a remote distribution from the main 301 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:29,519 panel to this detached structure, shall be supplied by only one feeder or brand 302 00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:36,480 circuit unless permitted in two twenty five dot thirty A through F, and it 303 00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:38,799 says, for the purpose of this section, a multi wire brand circuit shall 304 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:45,960 be considered a single circuit for this application. All right, So that means 305 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,599 that if I ran a twelve to three there, even though I technically can 306 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,440 get two circuits out of that, you know, a black and a red 307 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:59,240 sharing a neutral, uh, and it qualifies as two separate circuits. As 308 00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:03,279 far as it's concerned, it doesn't breach anything. That is still just one 309 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,640 brand circuit, so I'm not violating the rules into twenty dot two twenty five 310 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,960 dot thirty where it says only one brand circuit. So it's just telling you, 311 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:15,119 yeah, I know that a multi wire branch is really two circuits sharing 312 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,799 a neutral but to meet this rule, it's just it's just a single circuit. 313 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:26,480 That's fine. It says where a brand circuit or feeder originates in these 314 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:30,960 additional buildings or other structure, only one feeder or brand circuit shop You're permitted 315 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,119 to supply power back to the original building or structure unless permitted in two twenty 316 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,960 five dot thirty A through F. So what that means, by the way, 317 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,640 in in case you didn't understand that that language that came in last cycle 318 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,920 in the twenty twenty is that look that means if I'm going from your house 319 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,440 to a detached structure, and then I want to and not say that's the 320 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,799 branch circuit, let's just say or it could be a feeder, but now 321 00:24:55,839 --> 00:25:00,359 in that detached structure, I want to supply power. Let's say back to 322 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:04,119 the to the original building that it is going to allow me to do only 323 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,000 one feeder brand circuit is going to be permitted to come back. Now, 324 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:12,480 this is probably not that practical for residential, but it is when you deal 325 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:19,519 with like campus systems or where you have these large universities and they may have 326 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:26,119 feeders that are going out and they might have something like a something powering back 327 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,400 to the original building. Uh, and so this allows you to do that. 328 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,119 Okay, so it allows you. Now with that said, again, 329 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:41,079 reminder that a lot of this stuff in Part two is dealing with This is 330 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:47,880 just supplies. This is not services, although it's going to seem very similar 331 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,720 to services, so for those that are used to that. So the reason 332 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:56,240 I say that is because when you see the number of supplies and you come 333 00:25:56,279 --> 00:26:00,160 down to a which is special conditions, then you'll see things like fire pumps, 334 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:07,960 emergency systems, legally required, standby optional power, parallel power production systems, 335 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,279 and so forth. And now the one that comes to mind that they 336 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:18,359 want to use as a special condition is it says electric vehicle power trans transfer 337 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:23,480 systems. That's typically when you have more than a single branch or feeders, 338 00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:27,640 so not when you're just taking a detached structure like your question, and just 339 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,200 wanting to put one ev in there, so you would not use a seven 340 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:36,960 for that allowance, okay, And then the other ones are really not germane 341 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,079 to any of these until you get down to E. Now E is different 342 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:47,240 characteristics, right, So if I have one twenty that is brought to this 343 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,279 detached structure, but now I want to bring a brand circuit that's going to 344 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:56,000 supply to forty, then it very well could be argued here because it says 345 00:26:56,519 --> 00:27:03,759 additional feeders or brand circuits shall be permitted for different voltages, frequency, or 346 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:11,039 phases, or for different uses such as control of outside lighting from multiple locations. 347 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,880 So you could conceivably argue here that you have one twenty vault system there 348 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,279 and you're bringing a two forty vault system there. They are definitely different voltages. 349 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,480 So that so that's one of those things, and again you could argue 350 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:30,319 it is for a different use. Now says such as to control outside lighting 351 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,839 from multiple locations. That's just a such as use. That's not an all 352 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:40,359 encompassing use. So it's one of those things where you can have a conversation 353 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:44,759 with your agej your local building official and say, okay, I've got one 354 00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:49,680 twenty and I'll need to bring two forty and that is most certainly different voltages. 355 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,200 Okay, so it didn't say in here one thing. It says you 356 00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,440 shop have permitted to have, for example, something to do with phasing or 357 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,279 the phases in a sense it says or phases. But we're not talking about 358 00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:07,000 single phase versus three phase, which would be an easier one. Since it's 359 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,200 all single phase, you got to kind of you got to kind of hang 360 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,839 your head on the different voltages. Here's a caveat to that. You need 361 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,039 to verify with your local agej and it's going to be better for you to 362 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:23,799 be able to paint the picture for them to kind of express what you're trying 363 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:30,599 to do. So again, and lastly, there is one under f that's 364 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:37,519 called documented switching procedures. This is mainly seen in campuses and multi building industrial 365 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:45,200 complexes. But again, you can make the argument that your detached structure is 366 00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:52,039 under single management and there is a rule in here for documented safe switching procedures. 367 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:56,480 But again it's got to be established and maintained. I don't know how 368 00:28:56,519 --> 00:29:00,559 you would swing that. Obviously, commercial industrial has a maintenance policy. Maintenance 369 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:06,720 program, established program. I don't know how you would do that with a 370 00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:11,000 single family dwelling in your case, but I would probably try to use E 371 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,319 for that. And so there'll be others that say, well, that's not 372 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,440 different voltages. Well, last time I checked, one hundred and twenty volt 373 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,160 is different than a two forty volt. So that could be your argument, 374 00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:25,519 and give it, you know. I mean, I'm sure there's the pinheads 375 00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:27,559 that will disagree, and that's fine, but I'm just giving you my opinion 376 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:32,480 on that. So now, is it an option to do what you said 377 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:37,720 originally and just turn change it to a feeder and put a panel in. 378 00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:45,799 So here's the thing that would probably what I would advocate for. Obviously, 379 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:48,079 as a contractor, I'm you know, it's not that I'm going to make 380 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:49,200 more money having to put in a feeder, but if I'm going to have 381 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:57,119 to bring another branch circuit to this structure and it's got to come from the 382 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:02,960 main panel, then it seems to me like it would just be a better 383 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:07,480 expansion. They might end up doing more things in this garage. It seems 384 00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:10,359 to me like it would be an opportunity. Since you've got to dig the 385 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:12,440 trench anyway, it's gonna have to be the same depth, regardless of whether 386 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,680 it's a brand circuit or you're taking a feeder out there. It seems to 387 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:22,519 me it would be your best interest to just simply convert that and it's real 388 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,400 easy to run a feeder, put a panel and now you know, go 389 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,279 over and feed that same box that originally was getting fed from the dwelling with 390 00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:34,480 that original brand circuit, and just to refeed it from the panel that's being 391 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,960 installed in the detached structure. To me, you're gonna have to bring another 392 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,960 one anyway. So this seems to be the best approach, and I don't 393 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,279 see where it would cost that much more, maybe one hundred and ant remote 394 00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:55,160 distribution panel versus sixty for the brand circuit for the EV. So it seems 395 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,880 like me that would be the best thing. So just giving advice, I 396 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,880 would kind of say, look, you're gonna get more expansion, more capacity, 397 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:06,079 more use, potentially to add something else in here. So this is, 398 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,519 you know, this is how I would go, And it can't cost 399 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:12,160 that much more. It really can't that much more. I'm just saying, 400 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,799 all right, so hopefully it answers that question gave you my opinion on that. 401 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,839 You can agree to disagree if you want. That's fine. I don't 402 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,119 have a problem with disagreements. So but that's my thoughts on it. There. 403 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,839 Let's see what else do we got. Okay, all right, so 404 00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:32,599 we got another question here at Darling's actually starred this one for me, so 405 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,599 I guess this must be somewhat of a question but also a self promotion, 406 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,839 because that's usually what she does when she stars these questions from me. Okay, 407 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,000 it says, Hi, my name is Beep and I just recently purchased 408 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,359 one of your programs to help me pass my master's exam for the state of 409 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:55,319 Texas. Okay, all right, in your opinion, which type of question 410 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,440 excuse me? Which type of calculation questions should I focus on? Lastly, 411 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,720 are there any specific videos that you would recommend from fast Tracks too that would 412 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,079 help me understand how to do those types of calculations? Thank you for your 413 00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:16,960 time and help. Okay, Yeah, So in Texas, if you're taking 414 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,920 your master's exam, it's two separate tests, so you have your look up 415 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,880 skills. What you're gonna learn as you go through our fast Tracks program. 416 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,279 You're gonna get better at looking up things using the chevrons going in and out 417 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,079 of the code. But you're gonna get better at that. Obviously, we 418 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:36,440 go over single family dwelling, multifamily, dwelling non commercial type, I mean 419 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:42,759 a non dwelling type of calculations like stores and restaurants, and multifamily you know, 420 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,599 like a six unit complex and a twelve unit complex. One of the 421 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,119 things that I will tell you that as you go through it, and these 422 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,359 are in unit eight, eleven, and thirteen, by the way, in 423 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,359 our programs, whether it's the basic or the enhanced, or the black or 424 00:32:54,359 --> 00:33:00,160 the plus, it doesn't matter, same kind of content. Really focus on 425 00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:06,079 all of the steps that are involved in your multifamily, in your single family 426 00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:09,839 and those things I would say, focus on understanding range calculations. I would 427 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,720 understand how to do appliance calculations, all of those type of things. When 428 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:22,240 it comes to calculations, really try to focus on the low hanging fruit stuff, 429 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,400 right because a lot of times on exams they realize that there's a certain 430 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,599 number of amount of time and so they're usually not going to get too deep. 431 00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:35,400 But one of the advices I can give you is for you is you 432 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,640 make sure that you really hone down the three wave method that you truly understand 433 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,079 how that method works. Okay, we have a video on that that's over 434 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,079 on the fast tracks Tube. Just in a search feature at the top, 435 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,799 just try type three wave that type of thing, or you can type calculations 436 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,960 and you'll get all of our content that's focused on calculations. If you're on 437 00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:01,839 fast tracks Tube, there is one a eight hour calculations video that is eight 438 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,960 hours. It's worth fast tracks to by itself. Watch that eight hour video, 439 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:14,119 okay, and we're gonna go over so many calculations in there. Also 440 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,760 in there again, if you do a search at the top and you type 441 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,800 in calculations and you use the search feature, you're gonna get a lot of 442 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,360 our calculation videos and just watch them. Just watch them. You know a 443 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,159 couple of things that you have to get used to on Texas exams, it 444 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:35,159 could be the same with any exams, is that they're going to ask you 445 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:40,000 potentially any piece, okay, any piece of a load calculation. And they 446 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:45,039 may not ask you to do the entire load calc or something like that, 447 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:47,920 but they might ask you to do pieces of it. Right, and so 448 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:52,960 you might need to understand the appliances and how to apply appliances into twenty dot 449 00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:57,719 fifty three. You might they might ask you a dryer question to twenty dot 450 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,280 fifty four. They might ask your range question dealing with two twenty fifty five. 451 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:07,440 So I can't really tell you any specific calcs. And as I say, 452 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:13,199 most people know that I served with PSI in order to help write some 453 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,159 of the exam questions in Texas, but I've been I've not done that for 454 00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:21,840 a couple for two cycles now. So it's not that they're going to scrap 455 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:27,000 all the questions that we helped create. It's that would be too much work. 456 00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:29,719 And I can promise you from somebody that sits there and helps develop the 457 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,760 test questions. We don't reinvent the wheel. All we do is look at 458 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,320 questions to see if there's a if they're still relevant, if it wasn't code 459 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,760 change specific, if it wasn't like a twenty twenty and now that's changed for 460 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,559 the twenty twenty three. We spent a little time doing that, but we 461 00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:47,679 didn't really spend a lot of time trying to rewrite or reinvent the wheel. 462 00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:52,559 Now we were asked to write new questions and submit them each day to try 463 00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:55,719 to help build up the question pool. And then we did a lot of 464 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,960 time looking at questions that were underperforming or some that were too hard or some 465 00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:04,280 that were too easy, and could we rewrite them to balance it out a 466 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,639 little bit. But yeah, we didn't sit down every time three days that 467 00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,480 were there and just try to write a bunch of questions. There's already thousands 468 00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:14,159 of them in the data pool, so all we did was look at ones 469 00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:16,079 that were performing good or bad. Really and it adding a few here and 470 00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:21,679 there. So I can tell you with all confidence that the questions are not 471 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,079 difficult, but there's a lot and they press on you. As a master 472 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:31,199 test, it's a totally separate exam, whereas a journeyman the calculations are mixed. 473 00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:36,360 In the master it's not and many states are going that way. All 474 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,880 I can tell you is just focus on the question and if you're in our 475 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,800 program unit eight eleven and thirteen, if you don't get above eighty five, 476 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,159 or you get in the mid eighties. If you get below that, don't 477 00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:54,760 be satisfied. Go over it again, look at it again, spend some 478 00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:01,519 extra time in there, and even create your own question based on the competency 479 00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:05,960 reviews that we give. You just change the numbers around, like instead of 480 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,800 instead of two small appliance brand circuits, make it three, or make it 481 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,400 four or two laundry circuits, or change the square footage and you can get 482 00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:19,400 very creative and you should be testing yourself that type of thing. But that's 483 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,159 the kind of questions they're going to ask you. Very basic. They might 484 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:28,920 ask you a simple question for calculation to understand. Do you understand continuous loads? 485 00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,280 All right? So all those type of things. So again I can't 486 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:37,039 tell you any specific question you know calculations you should be looking for, except 487 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:42,480 I can promise you that you're probably going to get a question about an all 488 00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:46,119 electric restaurant. Okay, so you need to understand how to do that calculation. 489 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:52,000 And it's pretty simple, it's pretty straightforward, but you got to make 490 00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:54,280 sure you understand how to do it. A lot of times they have a 491 00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:00,880 question where it wants to know how to size something. If it's a four 492 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:07,239 wire three phase system and it's a for example, a four wire three phase 493 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,800 y system, and for these individual dwelling units, it's branching off of that 494 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,320 with three wire systems Okay, So two hots of neutral and an equipment ground. 495 00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:21,119 And when you hear people say three wire, they're not including the equipment 496 00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:24,199 ground. So when you see three wires, it's really two hots and neutral 497 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,199 and an equipment ground. Okay, So don't get fooled by that. Okay, 498 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,360 when you see somebody say a four wire three phase, then that is 499 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,559 three phases, a neutral for the most part, and then you're still going 500 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:38,800 to have an equipment ground. So don't get confused in that when you hear 501 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:45,000 stuff like that. So a three wire system that's derived from a four wire 502 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,119 three phase system, okay, when it derives from it, it's just deriving 503 00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:54,239 two phases. And that's the case. You need to know how to do 504 00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:00,119 the system, how to convert that type of thing to to turn. And 505 00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:04,039 let's say if you have a certain number of ranges. Now here's a tip 506 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:07,599 for you. We have a video that explains that it's available over on fasttracks 507 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:14,920 Tube. Just type in ranges it'll come up. But remember there's an informative 508 00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:20,559 index D that already has an example of that as well, to help refresh 509 00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:24,719 your memory on how to do that math. Okay, in order to be 510 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:30,320 able to determine the number of actual ranges you have, and then you can 511 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,320 go and apply all of the rules in two twenty nine to fifty five. 512 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,119 So just know that that's probably coming and we do have videos for both of 513 00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:45,920 those, okay, But other than that, just study, spend a lot 514 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,280 of time in eight eleven and thirteen. Focus. Don't be in such a 515 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,360 hurry to finish. Don't be such a hurry to submit it for us to 516 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:58,000 grade it. And if you're in the Basic in the enhanced program, you 517 00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:02,280 still got the same complicated question on the competency just before you go looking at 518 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,480 the answers, take your time and really work it out. Work it a 519 00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:09,920 couple of times as if you keep getting the same answer, and then when 520 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,199 you do, look at the answer key and if you get it wrong, 521 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:21,000 then spend extra time trying to figure out why you got it wrong. And 522 00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:24,840 then remember that you can always reach out to me and I will explain it 523 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,639 more detail. I mean, that's the beautiful thing about our program. Whether 524 00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,800 it's your the basic or enhanced, where you don't have my personal grading, 525 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,039 I'm still here. I'm still available for you to ask me questions on Paul 526 00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:42,719 Abernathy dot com. You can go to our message board that's on the website. 527 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,199 There's many ways that you can get questions answered. 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So all right, all 555 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,639 right, folks, that's all I've got. Hopefully you enjoyed something to learn 556 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,239 something from this. Until next time, Stay safe, God bless and we 557 00:42:54,280 --> 00:43:06,000 will catch you on the next episode of let's Ask Paul. Both both taskball 558 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:27,320 mothings mask nothing,