1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,720 I mean, the alien stuff is wild. In fact, I did a 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,439 fourth hour almost two years ago. It was December twenty twenty one, and 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,320 you can see right there I got a nice amount of views there. Coming 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,519 announcement of alien life is a technocratic psi op. Put a good amount of 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,879 time into this topic over the last several years. I did a live stream 6 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:24,920 two nights ago on my YouTube channel about two or three hours just devoted to 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:31,000 the whole history of the CIA's relationship to the so called alien phenomenon. I 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,000 view it as pretty much a psi op. You can go to the history 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,640 of alien cults. The intelligence agencies have had a long, in depth relationship 10 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:43,479 with a lot of these alien cults, whether it's scientology or the realiens or 11 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:48,479 any of these entities. Really they're all study. They're all sort of fostered, 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,840 and it's like a test tube where they let these things grow and they 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,679 become great studies, you could say, for how to socially engineer, I 14 00:00:57,799 --> 00:01:00,920 covered the fact that I think when I was in studio with Alex a few 15 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:07,319 months ago, I covered the fact that the top eight things to expect by 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,159 the year twenty thirty of the World Economic Forum that top eight things to expect 17 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:15,120 video that went viral that they subsequently took down. I think they put up 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:21,159 in twenty eighteen that video said we may in fact mentioned the discovery of alien 19 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:26,000 life by twenty thirty. So they're actually just rolling out stuff that they've had 20 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:27,480 planned for a long time. And I think, as you covered the other 21 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:33,599 day, Alex, the stories that they're giving now are the same stories that 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,840 have been recycled for the last twenty thirty years. I remember old Google video 23 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,239 clips of General's all been to the underground bases, and I've seen the clones 24 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,879 And how many times have we heard this story they're clone and aliens in the 25 00:01:46,879 --> 00:01:49,760 beaches. That's because it's the same story that they recycle, and that goes 26 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,200 all the way back to the Roswell crash that was a military involved crash. 27 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,840 So called it the same recycled story because the stories work. You go to 28 00:01:59,879 --> 00:02:04,640 the original people Betty and Barney Hill, you go to the Georgia Damski story. 29 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,360 All of these stories have the same patterns, the same archetypes involved. 30 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,439 They always have the same technocratic message. And that's why if you'd look at 31 00:02:13,439 --> 00:02:16,840 the character Adamski, the first so called abductee story. A lot of people 32 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:21,759 don't know that Alan Dullas was running point for him. Anybody that would question 33 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,919 Adamski or try to take him to court, Alan Dullas threatened to take them 34 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:30,400 to court. Why did Alan Dullas care what Georgia Damski was up to, 35 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Well, he would care if this was part of a longer siop. And 36 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,439 you can look at figures like CD Jackson, who was the author of the 37 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,319 Doctrinal Warfare program where the CIA was utilizing and co opting churches throughout the Cold 38 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:47,120 War. He also was involved in consulting on a lot of different film projects. 39 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,400 If I recall, he was involved in the Day of the Earth Stood 40 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,879 Still, which is the story where the aliens are coming outside threat and if 41 00:02:53,919 --> 00:03:00,960 we don't create a world government, a world socialist government, will never survived 42 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:04,439 the alien threat or the threat of the nukes and all this kind of stuff. 43 00:03:04,479 --> 00:03:07,599 So in my view, this is all one an outlined siout. In 44 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:14,199 fact, I've covered for many years the late sixties Brookings Report Institute. They've 45 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:16,639 said in the late sixties and they were commissioned by NASA to put this out. 46 00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:22,080 This is in doctor Brenda Densler's book on the History of the alien phenomenon. 47 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:25,000 She's an academic writing about this from an academic perspective. She said that 48 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:30,879 in that nineteen sixties report they outlined the fact that the discovery of alien life 49 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:38,520 quote unquote would have totally destructive effects on the history of Western civilizations religious myths. 50 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,360 So the Bible, for example, would be undercut in its story and 51 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:46,199 it's narrative by the alien mythos and so it's a psi op. It's intended 52 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,159 to It does a lot of things. It's a cover for black ops. 53 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:53,280 It's a cover for advanced technology by the government and by corporations, as a 54 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:57,919 cover for drug running that goes on at some of these bases, and other 55 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,159 nefarious activities. It was a psy op in the Cold War to you know, 56 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:04,879 tell the Soviets that there's aliens and all this kind of stuff. So 57 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:11,080 it serves a lot of functions, but on the longer scale, multi multidecade 58 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,399 narrative, it serves to give a new religious mythology to the West and to 59 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,439 the world, perhaps to replace the Biblical narratives. And they even say that 60 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,439 in the White Papers. The Brookings Institute report from the nineteen sixties late sixties 61 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:31,720 to replace the biblical narrative. So I wanna go to my guests today. 62 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:38,680 Rock and roll star Dorothy joins me. Dorothy reached out and said that she 63 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,839 likes the Fourth Hour, she likes the show, she likes this material, 64 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,439 and I want to get into discussing her journey, how she woke up to 65 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,600 a lot of this, how she got into the topic of the New World 66 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Order. But Dorothy, how are you today? I'm great, Thanks for 67 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,120 having me, Thanks for coming on. We only have a few seconds here. 68 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Let's talk about your band first. How does the name Dorothy? Is 69 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,720 this Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz Dorothy? It's just my birth name. 70 00:05:11,439 --> 00:05:15,680 I'm bringing it back. I guess it's an old Hollywood name and I couldn't 71 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,959 think of a good band name, so we just rolled with it. I 72 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,160 guess it worked, right. Did you have carte blanche? Was that your 73 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:25,639 decision or did you have to like pass it by the committee of the other 74 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:29,240 band members. There's not really I mean, I have a great team. 75 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,920 They're great. At the time, it was my manager's idea, and since 76 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:33,000 I couldn't think of a band name, I said, all right, let's 77 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,160 just call it Dorothy and get the band together. And that's what we did, 78 00:05:39,319 --> 00:05:41,399 all right, So we're gonna skip the break. That's good. We 79 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:47,000 can continue this conversation now your band has had you had a recent event. 80 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,279 I think it was fairly recent, right, that was pretty notable for a 81 00:05:50,319 --> 00:05:55,680 conversion in your own life. So first I want to before we get to 82 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,279 that event, was this what was your life prior to this event? Because 83 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:02,480 you know, you've got records and stuff going back at least videos going back 84 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:06,319 like nine or ten years. So were you like more of a normal just 85 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:14,199 rock and roll outfit than like living pretty wild or not? Absolutely. I've 86 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:17,519 been touring for the last nine years. I've been a signed recording artist, 87 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,879 writing albums, touring with my rock band, and I think the event you're 88 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:28,680 referring to is that I witnessed a miracle on my tour bus. This tech 89 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:31,519 that we had taken on tour took an overdose of heroin and died on the 90 00:06:31,519 --> 00:06:36,079 bus. I was not a Christian. I didn't believe in miracles. I 91 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,959 didn't even know if God was real. And the night before that this happened, 92 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,160 I was in my bunk praying God, if you're real. I need 93 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:48,839 you to reveal yourself to me because I'm really struggling, and I encourage anyone 94 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:55,160 that's curious about God to start speaking that out. Because what happened next the 95 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,920 next day was that this young man, you know, died on my bus 96 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:03,519 us and we prayed over him. We prayed over him, and this voice 97 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:06,079 said to me, and you know, it was like the Holy Spirit was 98 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,839 speaking to me. And at the time I didn't know that that was the 99 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:13,600 Holy Spirit, but now I do. And the Holy Spirit said, pray, 100 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,079 and so we grabbed hands and prayed for him. I said, God, 101 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:19,519 will you just give this young man one more chance? And he was 102 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:26,639 resurrected. Fortunately, that's not the only miracle I've witnessed. I've What I 103 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,560 really wanted to tell you today is I'm actually a survivor of Satanic ritual abuse, 104 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:35,319 and I work with a great ministry team that does inner healing and deliverance, 105 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:39,240 and if you want to have them on at some point, we can 106 00:07:39,319 --> 00:07:43,480 really expose what goes on in Hollywood with the SRA and the mind control. 107 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,279 These people help, you know, the victims that the church can't handle, 108 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,639 that are so broken and in need of deliverance, and they do it with 109 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:56,560 the help of Jesus God, taking their fractured soul parts and piecing them back 110 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,959 together and healing their wounds. And I'm only talking about this because I went 111 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,959 through it myself. You know. I tried therapy, I tried drugs and 112 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,680 alcohol. I tried all the things to make myself feel better. And I'm 113 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,519 telling you this is real. It's really a miracle that I'm here today talking 114 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:15,959 to you about it. Yeah, I mean, are you comfortable talking about 115 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,040 some of that In terms of your background? I didn't actually know that, 116 00:08:18,199 --> 00:08:22,600 So what what can you say about that in terms of how did that come 117 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:26,680 about? Was something that was part of your family or like, did you 118 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,399 get inducted into this in Hollywood or what happened? It was in Hollywood through 119 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:35,200 a Satanist that I was involved with, and it was unfortunately not through my 120 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,360 family. However, this is something that does happen in family bloodlines a lot 121 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,840 of the time, and my deliverance counselor could probably give you a lot more 122 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:50,840 detail and accurate information on that. But so that's not the first miracle I 123 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:54,840 witnessed. Then I ended up in rehab. Then the Holy Spirit spoke to 124 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,039 me then, and I was saved. I was watching a joel Osteine sermon 125 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,120 and it was like I knew I wanted to know who Jesus was. And 126 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,120 I started reading the Bible, and then the Bible started reading me, and 127 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:13,879 the Lord started speaking through the Bible and having me have divine appointments and interactions 128 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:16,120 with people. So since then, it's been pretty miraculous. You know, 129 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,320 I'm in this rock and roll band, we're touring. It's secular music, 130 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:26,080 but yet that's I guess where God has me to speak to people and share 131 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:31,039 the gospel in a way and also pray for them and interceed for them and 132 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,000 plant seeds in the music. So it's a huge honor and a blessing to 133 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,039 be able to do that. But the ritual abuse was so so long ago. 134 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,519 I thought I had recovered from it, but I had been just living 135 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:48,960 with PTSD for a very long time. And so two people from the church 136 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:54,759 referred me to my deliverance counselor and she did hands on prayer, and the 137 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,320 only way I can describe it is after my deliverance was over, the noise 138 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:05,320 stopped. It was peaceful. It was like just the peace that surpasses all 139 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:09,639 understanding. Now, when you say a long time ago, are you saying 140 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,960 like when you were really young, or was this like a coven or can 141 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,440 you go into any of that or do you not recall this was one person 142 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:24,480 although there are covens and families and things like that. This was in my 143 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,440 early early twenties, and I did black a lot of it out. I 144 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,200 actually have a hard time remembering a lot of it. But you know, 145 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:37,679 after I was saved two years later, God started taking me through various deliverances. 146 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:43,919 My chronic neck pain was gone with hands on prayer, after trying medication, 147 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:50,559 doctor's chiropractic, things like that, and then and then he wanted to 148 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,720 take it. So God will heal you in layers because he doesn't want to 149 00:10:54,759 --> 00:10:58,000 take you through more than you can handle at the time. And so it 150 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:03,799 was layers of deliverance, veeling things to me, giving me discernment and eyes 151 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:07,600 to see. So now I just get this this sense. I know when 152 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,840 someone's demonized. And the thing I want to remind believers and people out there 153 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:16,519 everyone is people are not your enemy. Satan is your enemy, and he 154 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:22,519 uses people people with trauma and open gateways and you know, curses in their 155 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:26,519 bloodline, think you know, the sins of our Father, but there's nothing 156 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:33,679 anyone has done that can stop them from getting saved and getting delivered. That's 157 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:39,000 a free gift from Jesus and it's available to everyone. It's a change of 158 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:43,879 heart. So when you had this experience on the tour bus, how long 159 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:46,600 ago was this? Was this recent or a few years ago? What was 160 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:50,600 this? This was a few years ago. I prayed the prayer the next 161 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:54,960 day, the next evening this happened, and my sound guy and I looked 162 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,320 at each other, like, what just happened? You know? And that 163 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,039 was the day I was convince God was real, but I didn't. That 164 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,159 was just kind of him opening the door, I guess, and revealing himself 165 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,120 to me. And then it was a journey of discovering, you know, 166 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,399 getting born again, getting baptized, receiving the Holy Spirit, having the eyes 167 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,200 to see, getting deliverance, getting healed, and you know, I'm still 168 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,879 a baby, and it's just like kind of a journey with Jesus. We're 169 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:26,879 walking hand in hand. But I wanted to share this story because this is 170 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:30,480 a real thing that happens to people, and no it didn't happen as a 171 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:37,360 child, but it happens to children in horrible ways that you couldn't possibly imagine. 172 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:43,559 And so I think that the body of Christ needs to get curious about 173 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:52,000 deliverance. Now. Yeah, so when this occurred, before this event, 174 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:56,600 like, what was your attitude towards you know, the divine or things transcended? 175 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,440 Did you think there was no god or maybe there's a god, or 176 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,519 like what was your attitude? Maybe I wasn't sure, you know, I 177 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,759 was always one thing I was always searching for was the truth. And I 178 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:13,159 definitely had an awakening in my early twenties thanks to David Ike. Actually, 179 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,360 I mean his material was so insane that it was the only thing that made 180 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,559 sense to me. And I was blown away that I knew chemtrails were real, 181 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,200 but yet nobody seemed to want to acknowledge it. Things like that. 182 00:13:24,279 --> 00:13:28,919 So I had an awakening then, but then I went back to sleep. 183 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:31,919 We're being a bombarded on all sides by all these things to put us to 184 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,879 sleep, to keep us stupid, to keep us sick, and I went 185 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:41,320 back to sleep. But you know, that's just like expert level gaslighting, 186 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,639 when you have the spraying and the sky and you can see it with your 187 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:48,639 eyes, and Google's telling you that it's a conspiracy theory. And as someone 188 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:56,080 who's a survivor of SRI and narcissistic abuse, now when that happens, my 189 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:01,519 fire alarms, my internal alarms just go off. So it's I guess it's 190 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,480 good that I went through those things and came out the other side, because 191 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:09,559 now I'm a weapon against this. And I told the Lord, just use 192 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,360 me as a you know, just use me to blow up the enemy's camp. 193 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:20,080 I'm just sick of it. Let's go. So did you You said 194 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,639 that you kind of had an awareness of some of these elements of the New 195 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:26,120 World Order and what was going on. Was that prior to the conversion experience 196 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,519 or was it the conversion experience? And then you really saw how this battle 197 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:33,679 that ran isn't just a geopolitical thing, it's also a spiritual thing. Is 198 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:37,440 that what you're saying? Yeah, I saw it, and I didn't connect 199 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,960 it with the spiritual until I had a spiritual awakening. And now it's like 200 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:46,879 the whole thing makes sense. And I really credit David Ike with connecting a 201 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:54,759 lot of seemingly unrelated dots and Alex and people who can see and expand their 202 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,639 vision and see the bigger picture. That's that's something else like. And when 203 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:01,360 you do have the spirit of truth and the Holy Spirit, you are given 204 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:07,519 a level of discernment. It's undeniable. Yeah, I mean absolutely, that's 205 00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:11,879 one of the gifts that's mentioned in I think the Corinthians passage. And I'm 206 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:18,120 curious because you know, right now we're seeing this barrage of news that deals 207 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,720 with aliens and all this kind of nonsense. And I've always believed that there's 208 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,360 a there's a deep seated deception involved in this alien phenomena. You can go 209 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:31,720 back to people involved working with the Pentagon who then came out and said this 210 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:37,039 is actually a mass level deception. Like Jacob Eli, the famous DoD computer 211 00:15:37,159 --> 00:15:39,960 or scientist guy. He says this is a malevolent deception. He's not even 212 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,960 a Christian, but he's able to recognize that there is something involved in this 213 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:48,600 that's more than just human beings at a manipulation level. There's also something spiritual 214 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:54,000 going on. But he actually says that the entities involved in this, they're 215 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,879 not extraterrestrial. They're actually terrestrial. They're part of this planet and they are 216 00:16:00,279 --> 00:16:06,200 involved in a massed acception to steer in a social engineering way human beings into 217 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,360 some kind of world government or something like this. Would you agree with that? 218 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,759 What's your take on the whole alien phenomenon. I could definitely see that. 219 00:16:12,799 --> 00:16:17,399 I mean, I definitely don't put that past them. I think it's 220 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,519 demonic. I think it's connected. It's beyond I understanding, certainly. And 221 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,120 if you have people in the government kind of leaking this information, is the 222 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:30,519 mainstream talking about it, probably not. I don't know too much about the 223 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:36,240 alien thing. I think it's I believe it was Alistair Crowley that said he 224 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:41,039 had conjured some entity that said, you know, you call us demons, 225 00:16:41,159 --> 00:16:42,759 they call us aliens, and one day you'll know that it's one and the 226 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:48,080 same something along those lines. I don't want to misquote, but I think 227 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:51,320 a lot of the things that seem alien are just are demonic, and they 228 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,639 really are not fallen angels bound in cosmic realms. I mean that sounds alien 229 00:16:56,679 --> 00:17:00,159 to me. Yeah, No, I think that element of it that is 230 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:07,720 demonic is precisely you know, it's a fallen angel situation. That's what I'm 231 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,319 saying. It's I'm not saying it's all I think there's multiple things going on, 232 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,839 So it's not just the government engaging in black ops. I think there's 233 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:18,440 a real phenomena that's going on. I'm not saying every little grainy clip on 234 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,400 YouTube is demonic, but I'm saying that there is an element by which, 235 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,680 for example, if you look at people who've done DMT, or people who've 236 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,920 done a lot of acid, or the psychonautics like Terrence McKenna or Timothy Leary 237 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,960 or John C. Lily, when they talk about their trips and when they 238 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:37,400 talk about interacting with these interdimensional entities, you know, it's the same type 239 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,720 of thing that David Ike talks about that you mentioned. They always say that 240 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:47,160 the message that they've been given is haval role government. You need to depopulate. 241 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,480 You can't run the planet correctly because you built bombs. And if you 242 00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:55,559 just do what we say and you worship us, then you're gonna get the 243 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,400 utopia, a kind of a socialist tech Utokia. So I mean that to 244 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,480 me just as the demonic, I mean, demons have always engaged in prompting 245 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:07,079 human beings to do the same types of activities like offer up you're firstborn, 246 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,880 to us, right, you know this kind of stuff. So that's exactly 247 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,400 what the entities that are speaking to people are saying. It's no different than 248 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,680 what I mean Alex was saying. You know Ellen Page today, like her 249 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:25,279 her process of hearing a voice telling her to mutilate herself. I mean to 250 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,440 me, that is again, why is no one accepting the best explanation for 251 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,000 these phenomena is the demonic dire of Jay's analysis. Want remind you too that 252 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,880 if you want to get deep into that alien nonsense and all the breakdowns that 253 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,319 I've done, if you go to Bandai video, you can search my name 254 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:47,960 and you'll find at least four or five different four hours that I've done deconstructing 255 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,079 the alien stuff from my vantage point. You go to my YouTube channel, 256 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,319 Jaydyer, and you can find the most recent podcast that we did a couple 257 00:18:55,319 --> 00:18:57,880 of days ago, just kind of mocking and making fun of this. I 258 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,519 want to note too that if you look at Isaiah eleven, there's a really 259 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:07,880 interesting passage. Is one of the most famous Messianic passages predicting the Messiah says, 260 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,440 I shall come forth a root from the rod of Jesse, A flowers 261 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,559 shall grow out of his root. The spirit of God will rest upon him, 262 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,440 the spirit of wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, godliness, 263 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:25,720 spirit of the fear of God shall fill him. And of course David 264 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,559 being the son of Jesse. There that is a reference to the divinic lineage 265 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,640 of Jesus the Messiah. And so we have these spirits that are mentioned, 266 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:40,440 right, these seven spirits, and Paul and first Granthians mentions these gifts of 267 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,240 the Spirit. And so I'm assuming that that's where Dorothy got the inspiration for 268 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,160 her most recent album a few months ago, right, which is Gifts from 269 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:55,759 the Holy Ghost. Right, So I actually named the album before I had 270 00:19:55,799 --> 00:19:59,680 ever opened the Bible. I feel like, God, how can you give 271 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,400 you onloads? And this happened. I woke up in my hotel room in 272 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,039 New York City. I was writing and recording the record. I woke up 273 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:08,640 and the first thing I heard was Gifts from the Holy Ghost. I wrote 274 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,559 it down, and I didn't know what the gifts from the Holy Spirit were. 275 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:17,519 With the fruits of the Holy Spirit were Church made me nervous, you 276 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:21,480 know. So I wrote it down and I thought that sounds like a great 277 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,720 album title. I finished the last song gifts from the Holy Ghost and which 278 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,720 I feel has very rich spiritual messaging. And there it was, and I 279 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:36,759 ended up getting saved after that. So God's really funny with his perfect divine 280 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:41,559 timing of doing things so that you know it's him. Oh, absolutely, 281 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:47,720 yeah, Divine providence is that I think you know, before I got into 282 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:52,640 you know, this worldview, you tend to see things as synchronicity. Right, 283 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:56,319 Let's like Carl Young, synchronicity. But then that you start to realize, 284 00:20:56,319 --> 00:21:00,640 well, synchronicity doesn't really make sense if it's like coming from psyche, 285 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,920 right, That's what the way Karl Young pictures it all. It's like even 286 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,839 as an essay where he talks about UFOs and he says, oh, the 287 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,519 UFOs are a manifestation of our unconscious, right, But that doesn't really make 288 00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:15,119 sense because it's not our unconscious that's manifesting these things. There is a divine 289 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,960 mind, the divine consciousness, you could say, And that makes sense for 290 00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:25,160 how reality can be organized via divine providence, by our free will working together 291 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,960 with divine providence. To me, that makes a lot more sense than this 292 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:33,319 idea that our psyche manifests it, like Karl Young, says, but yeah, 293 00:21:33,319 --> 00:21:37,279 I think that on the notion of spiritual warfare too, And we didn't 294 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:42,759 really mention this in the pre interview discussion, but you know, I'm Orthodox, 295 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:48,200 and it's ironic because only to my knowledge, only the Orthodox Church still 296 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,440 does the ancient form of exorcism at baptism. So in the early Church they 297 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,880 would actually do a ritual of exorcism as part of the baptismal ritual. I'm 298 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:03,079 not knocking you know, your conversion or anything like that. I'm just saying 299 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,359 that one of the reasons I found Orthodoxy appealing was that when you look into 300 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,880 the history of the Church, you have this ancient baptismal right, and they 301 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,039 would always include the ritual of exorcism as part of baptism. And to me, 302 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,680 that suggests that, you know, the Church has to have this notion 303 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:22,640 of the reality of spiritual warfare, and a lot of the Orthodox hymnography, 304 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:29,359 a lot of the chance that we see they are their rife with this notion 305 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,000 of spiritual warfare and battling the demonic realm. And I think that that's an 306 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,960 element that I'm not personally charismatic obviously, but a lot of charismatics get that 307 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:41,599 element correct, like they realize there is a reality to spiritual warfare. And 308 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,759 some charismatics can go crazy with this, but a lot of it might be 309 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:49,119 a lot of the Protestant churches kind of have a fractured element where they like 310 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,839 different ones have pieces of truth. Right. But I think that if we 311 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,799 understand the notion of authority, if we understand the notion of the church possessing 312 00:22:56,839 --> 00:23:02,359 this power, you know said you will do these things, you will cast 313 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,599 out demons, he says to the apostles in Luke right, and he says, 314 00:23:04,599 --> 00:23:07,720 I've given you authority over the scorpions, over all the enemy and so 315 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,319 forth. So I appreciate that, you know, you've incorporated that into your 316 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:17,200 music and into your worldview about how you approach writing. Do you find that 317 00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:19,079 to be difficult when you write with the people that you write with, because 318 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,640 you just have this big thing drop what I know, You've got your album 319 00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:26,680 which is about some months ago. You have a new song that just dropped 320 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:33,079 with Nita right. Yes, Nita Strauss Victorious fellow Believer, and we wanted 321 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,519 a very empowering song that was going to encourage young women. I think we 322 00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:41,920 accomplished that so, yeah, her and I talk about this. It's it's 323 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,920 true. Spiritual warfare is a real thing. Believers have been given authority by 324 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,400 Jesus, and a lot of them don't know their authority, and the enemy 325 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,319 will hammer them. And it's so obvious because the devil never has any new 326 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,279 tricks. I mean, it's always before a big interview or before of some 327 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,200 big blessing. And if you can just nail your flesh to the cross, 328 00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:03,519 so to speak, and not react to the flesh, and pick up your 329 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:07,440 tools, go into praise and worship, use the word of God, which 330 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,400 is the sort of the spirit, command that enemy to leave you in the 331 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,400 name of Jesus. Command those spirits Jezebel, whoever's attacking you to go in 332 00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:21,480 Jesus name. And if you know your authority and you've been given it by 333 00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:25,880 Jesus, they have to obey you. And yeah, of course the devil 334 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,079 wants you to worship him, but he hates humans, he hates us. 335 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,200 So why would you worship something that hates us, that wants to see your 336 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,680 demise in your destruction. I mean that sounds like, you know, masochism. 337 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,559 To me. That's a really good point. I think that a lot 338 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,680 of times people that are getting more and more serious about their Satanism, for 339 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,480 example, they actually do get into harming themselves. You know, if you 340 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:55,200 go back to the Old Testament, when not just the Fall, when you 341 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,400 know, Jesus says that Satan was the first thief and liar, right, 342 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,880 he lied, he stole man's life. That was what he did in the 343 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:06,000 garden. If you fast forward to the time of Elijah when he's dealing with 344 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,960 the profits of bail, when they're on the mountain having that spiritual confrontation, 345 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,720 what is it that the profits of bail are doing. They're they're cutting themselves 346 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:21,799 and they're trying to invoke they all bay alzibub, right by cutting themselves self 347 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:26,000 harm and the release of the blood and whatnot. They they thought would bring 348 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,160 this entity, that would bring this power to them, and it didn't. 349 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,880 Nothing happened, right, It only harmed them. And if you look at 350 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,240 other instances in scripture, for example, where we see people who are mentioned 351 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:42,440 committing suicide, there's only a few of these in scripture. There's Judas and 352 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:48,359 there's Saul. And in both cases Judas and Saul were specifically said to be 353 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:52,039 possessed in I guess different degrees. I think I think Judas was a lot 354 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:56,319 more possessed than Saul was. But both of those guys killed themselves. So 355 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,519 we have two instances in scripture of suicide. In both cases the people were 356 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:07,920 specifically demonically possessed. So the theme here that I'm getting at is that every 357 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,240 time we see this manifestation in scripture of the presence of the demonic, and 358 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,359 it's always self harm. Remember the guy in the tombs. When Jesus casts 359 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,880 out the demon the guy wandering in the tombs, it says that he kept 360 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,000 throwing himself into the fire and trying to kill himself. So every time suicide 361 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:26,599 appears, it's always in the presence of the demonic, and that to me 362 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:33,240 suggests that self harm mutilating oneself. This is very relevant for a lot of 363 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,240 what's going on in our culture right now. It has a spiritual root. 364 00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:41,400 It's not just bad ideology. It's a spiritual problem. And until we address 365 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,799 the spiritual problem, the problems can't be fixed. You can't fix these things 366 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,680 with politics. What do you think, Well, yeah, And I want 367 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,079 to point out that the blood covenants, the drinking of the blood in Hollywood 368 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,400 the cutting, the releasing of blood. Blood is the highest currency in the 369 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:03,079 spirit realm. That's why Jesus gave his blood for us and made a mockery 370 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,119 of Satan and disarmed him and defeated him and took the keys back. It 371 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,319 was the power in the blood. The reason is that blood is the highest 372 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:18,599 currency in the spirit realm. So and yeah, it's definitely demonic when you 373 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:22,720 hear voices telling you to cut yourself. I would suggest getting getting some deliverance 374 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,680 and coming to know God, because he can set you free from all that. 375 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,359 You could have sold your soul to Satan himself or have it embedded in 376 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,599 your bloodline and still be set free. Satan doesn't own your soul. He 377 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,559 doesn't have any right to it. He has no authority over it. God 378 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:42,839 God does and God's name is literally printed on your DNA. So I think 379 00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:48,160 that settles that. I want to remind everybody that they can follow you. 380 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,319 We still got another segment after this, but they can follow you over on 381 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,440 your channel at Dorothy. They can check out the new album Gifts from the 382 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,200 Holy Ghost, What relatively new passed your mind right, and then your new 383 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,920 song with Nita is on. I think her channel, and they can follow 384 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,200 you on Instagram as right as well, Right right, just at Dorothy, 385 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:15,759 I got lucky, I got the handle that if you are in the La 386 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:22,079 Hollywood area, we will be live in La July six with Jamie Kennedy, 387 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,880 Yes, Jamie Kennedy from the Jamie Kinney Experiment, from Malibu's Most Wanted from 388 00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:33,359 Scream Randy Meeks in person. How would you not want to be there for 389 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,319 that? It's a blast. Our live events are the bomb if you don't 390 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,440 know, it's more like a five hour party. At our live events. 391 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:45,039 We do comedy, we do impressions, we do serious stuff. We actually 392 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:48,880 get into a lot of real hardcore information. My wife will be doing a 393 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,680 discussion on esoteric Hollywood, what you guys know, I have two books on 394 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:57,319 that, and I will be doing a presentation on my new book Meta Narratives, 395 00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:02,119 The Essays on Philosophy and Symbolism. So I'll be covering a lot of 396 00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:07,880 philosophical topics as well as doing a lot of ridiculous nonsense. And as you 397 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,039 guys may or may not have seen, I performed my first cringe course song 398 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:17,119 live last weekend at Courtney Turner's event, and so the crowd got trolled. 399 00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:19,400 They didn't know what they were gonna get, and they actually got a live 400 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:26,160 version of my Matthew McConaughey song, Pure Cringe, Pure Live. And I 401 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,240 might actually do quite a few of those if you come to the LA event, 402 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:32,640 as well as serious stuff. So if you head on over to my 403 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,960 website, Jason Alsos dot com, you'll see under every post there is the 404 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:41,920 link of the live events. Get your ticket to the July six Los Angeles 405 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,079 event in the links there the event right links. It's gonna be a lot 406 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,759 of fun. And then of course Jamie will be Jamie Kennedy will be the 407 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,640 headliner doing some stand up and you can also get on over to his merch 408 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,519 table and meet him and get a few picks with him. He's a great 409 00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,880 dude, very cool. Let's get back to this notion of spiritual warfare. 410 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,759 I think again, think about what we're told with alien nonsense, right, 411 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:14,680 aliens or these interdimensional entities. The message is always that if you just have 412 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,880 a world government, if you just worship us, if you just depopulate, 413 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:22,480 we'll give you solutions, We'll give you advanced technology. This is the message 414 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:29,680 of childhoods or remember Arthur C. Clark was himself a confessed Chrolean, I 415 00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:33,799 confessed Luciferian. He had some weird predilections in terms of the peto stuff, 416 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:38,599 as Alex just talked about this week, And in his book he actually writes 417 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:48,400 that carollin the Overlord is a freaking demon. He's got hoofs, he looks 418 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,759 like a giant demon. And people can't figure this out. The soy nerds 419 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,559 are out there like, oh it's science. Oh, they're advanced from another 420 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,759 civilization and they're gonna bring me a coom Potter and I could just have fun 421 00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:03,400 for ever. It's gonna be too great. No, it's a demon, 422 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,440 dummy. It even looks like a freaking demon, and you can't tell it's 423 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,920 a demon. Come on, now, come on, what is wrong with 424 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:15,720 you people? It's a massive deception. Now. In scripture, we have 425 00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:18,839 the story early on in Genesis. It's implicit in Genesis, and then it's 426 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,839 explained later on by chapter three, and then as the text progresses we get 427 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,960 the story of before Man's fall, there was another fall. Did you know 428 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:36,279 there was another fall before Man fell? That was the Angelic Fall? And 429 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,720 that Angelic fall happened outside of time and space, outside of the normal phase 430 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,920 of human experience of time. It happened in the spiritual realm, the aon 431 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,920 is what the church fathers called it. And so the angels, because they 432 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:56,240 don't exist in time like humans do, they were tested at once and outside 433 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,599 of time. When they fell, it was an instantaneous fall, and angels 434 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,839 from every one of those ranks of the nine choirs that are listed in the 435 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,519 various texts of Scripture fell John says that one third of the angels fell with 436 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:15,680 Satan, and so they launched into this rebellion against God and against humankind. 437 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,680 As Dorothy said, they hate humans. Why well, in orthodox theology we 438 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,000 understand that they hate human beings because humans are made not just in the image 439 00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:29,079 of God, but also to be raised, as Paul says, above the 440 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:36,200 angels. So there's a fundamental envy that Satan and his hosts had against man 441 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,039 because man was made in the image of the Logos. In our view in 442 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:46,200 the garden, it's man that's walking around with the logos with the preincarnate Christ. 443 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:51,759 Man is made in the image of Christ. Adam, Paul says, 444 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:57,960 Adam is after the image of Christ in his letters, So it's a more 445 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,519 specific notion of being made in the image of God, not just in the 446 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,880 image of the Trinity, but also in the image of the Logos, the 447 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,640 preincarnate Logos, who would then become incarnate. So a man himself in the 448 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:15,799 garden is kind of a prefiguring, a foreshadowing of the incarnation. And thus 449 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:22,440 Satan's hatred of humankind results from this envy and desire to destroy the thing that 450 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:27,839 reminds him of his creator Christ. You say, in the beginning, was 451 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,519 the Word or was with God? The Word was God. All things came 452 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:35,440 to be through the Logos. Christ is the creator even of Satan. And 453 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,799 so the angelic fall created this race of entities, you could say angelic race. 454 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:46,759 Then Dad's set on destroying humankind at first until the birth of Christ, 455 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:52,319 to destroy and persecute Israel because Israel would give birth to the Massium, and 456 00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:59,240 then now the Church to destroy the Church, because the Church is the body 457 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:05,319 of the Messium on earth. Read Isaiah. Isaiah is the fifth Gospel. 458 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,920 So I want to go back to Dorothy. Dorothy, you were talking about 459 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:15,840 this spiritual warfare when you before you were interested in these topics, before you 460 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,440 had your conversion experience. How did you look upon Christianity? Did you see 461 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,960 it as a bunch of goofballs and goobers that were duped and believed a bunch 462 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,719 of stupid stuff. Or was it because they didn't talk about the reality of 463 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,639 the spiritual warfare and the reality of what you saw in Hollywood? Or what 464 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,440 was it that? How did you see it before I saw it the way 465 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,119 the world sees it. You know, I couldn't. I couldn't sit in 466 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,000 church and during worship it made me cringe. You know. The one or 467 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,960 two times I had gone to church, I felt completely uncomfortable, crawling out 468 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,719 of my skin, probably because I was demonized. And they really don't like 469 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,719 that, you know. But when when you accept Jesus, you give him 470 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,639 legal authority over your life, and now you get the veil comes off and 471 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,039 you see the truth. And I honestly can't believe I'm sitting here and I'm 472 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,639 saying, yes, I read about Jesus, and I talk to Jesus and 473 00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:15,800 I pray, and I know what spiritual warfare is. I love it when 474 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,199 the Satanists say, you know, Satanism is just about self worship. There's 475 00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:24,800 no devil, Yes, there's a devil, and the demons are spirits without 476 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:30,159 bodies, you know, and those that have the eyes to see you can 477 00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:34,559 see them. So you're not crazy. Body of Christ. You're not you 478 00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:37,480 know, you're not losing it. You've been given a gift that can be 479 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:43,639 uncomfortable to operate in sometimes, but you're you know, we're trying to save 480 00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:47,199 as many souls before it's time to go. And the last thing, one 481 00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,639 of the last things I wanted to say is no matter what you've done, 482 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,800 you can still get be saved and get delivered. And alson is the same 483 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,159 when it's nailed to the cross. I mean, Paul was murdering Christians, 484 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,760 right, So just remember that when you start to listen to the flaming arrows 485 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,159 of the enemy coming into your mind with the shame and the condemnation and the 486 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:10,119 guilt, the devil will lie to you in your own voice. And the 487 00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:15,239 mind is the battlefield. And if you go into praise and worship, that 488 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,400 will break. That's one tactic. So it's absolutely real. And here I 489 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,119 am. I would never go back to my life before Jesus. For all 490 00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:28,679 the money in the world, for all the fame, for all the dreams. 491 00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:30,840 All the fruit that the devil wants to give you is poison. It's 492 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,800 tainted, and the demons always come to collect their pound of flesh, you 493 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,440 know, and everything he has is just a sad counterfeit. And I would 494 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,320 never My life now is just too good. Serving God is just so fulfilling. 495 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,800 I don't feel alone. And since everyone is feeling so alone and isolated, 496 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,119 and that's just an epidemic in our world, maybe they need to try 497 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:57,000 God. Because I have a sense of just being loved and cared for and 498 00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:00,559 connected with the body of Christ. I will run into people don't even know, 499 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,119 and we will pray together, and we know that God orchestrated that meeting 500 00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:08,840 as a divine appointment that day because someone needed it. So it's pretty miraculous 501 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,679 and supernatural. I mean, I serve an awesome God and I'm still going 502 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:20,000 to play rock and roll, so it's the best of both worlds. Yeah. 503 00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:22,599 Well, I mean, you know, David, multiple people in the 504 00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:25,519 Old Testament were skilled musicians, so you know, nothing, there's nothing wrong 505 00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:29,679 all the talents that we have, or talents given to us by God, 506 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,800 you know, to use for that for that purpose. So I'm really cool 507 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,800 to have you on. Thank you for giving your testimony, your journey. 508 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,400 I think that people should understand that as things get more insane, as we 509 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,000 see more and more evil, that's actually a call to repentance. It's a 510 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,880 call to noticing that there's objective good. Right. Evil is not a thing 511 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,239 that exists or has being in the sense of you know, everything that God 512 00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,480 created it exists as good. And what evil does that it's a privation. 513 00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:05,599 It's a negation against the good. It's always an act against the good. 514 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:09,039 That's it. That's all they ever can be. And so the more that 515 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:13,800 we see evil in the world, it should wake people up, especially people 516 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,679 who are skeptics or people who don't think that. I mean, why is 517 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:21,199 there a commonality amongst the all of the ancient empires of the world having this 518 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,800 anti human agenda where the empires enact the worship of some weird you know, 519 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:32,559 deity or ruler or tyrant Nimrod Babbel, and they require human sacrifice. If 520 00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:36,679 there's objective evil, there's objective good.