I mean, the alien stuff is wild. In fact, I did a
fourth hour almost two years ago. It was December twenty twenty one, and
you can see right there I got a nice amount of views there. Coming
announcement of alien life is a technocratic psi op. Put a good amount of
time into this topic over the last several years. I did a live stream
two nights ago on my YouTube channel about two or three hours just devoted to
the whole history of the CIA's relationship to the so called alien phenomenon. I
view it as pretty much a psi op. You can go to the history
of alien cults. The intelligence agencies have had a long, in depth relationship
with a lot of these alien cults, whether it's scientology or the realiens or
any of these entities. Really they're all study. They're all sort of fostered,
and it's like a test tube where they let these things grow and they
become great studies, you could say, for how to socially engineer, I
covered the fact that I think when I was in studio with Alex a few
months ago, I covered the fact that the top eight things to expect by
the year twenty thirty of the World Economic Forum that top eight things to expect
video that went viral that they subsequently took down. I think they put up
in twenty eighteen that video said we may in fact mentioned the discovery of alien
life by twenty thirty. So they're actually just rolling out stuff that they've had
planned for a long time. And I think, as you covered the other
day, Alex, the stories that they're giving now are the same stories that
have been recycled for the last twenty thirty years. I remember old Google video
clips of General's all been to the underground bases, and I've seen the clones
And how many times have we heard this story they're clone and aliens in the
beaches. That's because it's the same story that they recycle, and that goes
all the way back to the Roswell crash that was a military involved crash.
So called it the same recycled story because the stories work. You go to
the original people Betty and Barney Hill, you go to the Georgia Damski story.
All of these stories have the same patterns, the same archetypes involved.
They always have the same technocratic message. And that's why if you'd look at
the character Adamski, the first so called abductee story. A lot of people
don't know that Alan Dullas was running point for him. Anybody that would question
Adamski or try to take him to court, Alan Dullas threatened to take them
to court. Why did Alan Dullas care what Georgia Damski was up to,
Well, he would care if this was part of a longer siop. And
you can look at figures like CD Jackson, who was the author of the
Doctrinal Warfare program where the CIA was utilizing and co opting churches throughout the Cold
War. He also was involved in consulting on a lot of different film projects.
If I recall, he was involved in the Day of the Earth Stood
Still, which is the story where the aliens are coming outside threat and if
we don't create a world government, a world socialist government, will never survived
the alien threat or the threat of the nukes and all this kind of stuff.
So in my view, this is all one an outlined siout. In
fact, I've covered for many years the late sixties Brookings Report Institute. They've
said in the late sixties and they were commissioned by NASA to put this out.
This is in doctor Brenda Densler's book on the History of the alien phenomenon.
She's an academic writing about this from an academic perspective. She said that
in that nineteen sixties report they outlined the fact that the discovery of alien life
quote unquote would have totally destructive effects on the history of Western civilizations religious myths.
So the Bible, for example, would be undercut in its story and
it's narrative by the alien mythos and so it's a psi op. It's intended
to It does a lot of things. It's a cover for black ops.
It's a cover for advanced technology by the government and by corporations, as a
cover for drug running that goes on at some of these bases, and other
nefarious activities. It was a psy op in the Cold War to you know,
tell the Soviets that there's aliens and all this kind of stuff. So
it serves a lot of functions, but on the longer scale, multi multidecade
narrative, it serves to give a new religious mythology to the West and to
the world, perhaps to replace the Biblical narratives. And they even say that
in the White Papers. The Brookings Institute report from the nineteen sixties late sixties
to replace the biblical narrative. So I wanna go to my guests today.
Rock and roll star Dorothy joins me. Dorothy reached out and said that she
likes the Fourth Hour, she likes the show, she likes this material,
and I want to get into discussing her journey, how she woke up to
a lot of this, how she got into the topic of the New World
Order. But Dorothy, how are you today? I'm great, Thanks for
having me, Thanks for coming on. We only have a few seconds here.
Let's talk about your band first. How does the name Dorothy? Is
this Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz Dorothy? It's just my birth name.
I'm bringing it back. I guess it's an old Hollywood name and I couldn't
think of a good band name, so we just rolled with it. I
guess it worked, right. Did you have carte blanche? Was that your
decision or did you have to like pass it by the committee of the other
band members. There's not really I mean, I have a great team.
They're great. At the time, it was my manager's idea, and since
I couldn't think of a band name, I said, all right, let's
just call it Dorothy and get the band together. And that's what we did,
all right, So we're gonna skip the break. That's good. We
can continue this conversation now your band has had you had a recent event.
I think it was fairly recent, right, that was pretty notable for a
conversion in your own life. So first I want to before we get to
that event, was this what was your life prior to this event? Because
you know, you've got records and stuff going back at least videos going back
like nine or ten years. So were you like more of a normal just
rock and roll outfit than like living pretty wild or not? Absolutely. I've
been touring for the last nine years. I've been a signed recording artist,
writing albums, touring with my rock band, and I think the event you're
referring to is that I witnessed a miracle on my tour bus. This tech
that we had taken on tour took an overdose of heroin and died on the
bus. I was not a Christian. I didn't believe in miracles. I
didn't even know if God was real. And the night before that this happened,
I was in my bunk praying God, if you're real. I need
you to reveal yourself to me because I'm really struggling, and I encourage anyone
that's curious about God to start speaking that out. Because what happened next the
next day was that this young man, you know, died on my bus
us and we prayed over him. We prayed over him, and this voice
said to me, and you know, it was like the Holy Spirit was
speaking to me. And at the time I didn't know that that was the
Holy Spirit, but now I do. And the Holy Spirit said, pray,
and so we grabbed hands and prayed for him. I said, God,
will you just give this young man one more chance? And he was
resurrected. Fortunately, that's not the only miracle I've witnessed. I've What I
really wanted to tell you today is I'm actually a survivor of Satanic ritual abuse,
and I work with a great ministry team that does inner healing and deliverance,
and if you want to have them on at some point, we can
really expose what goes on in Hollywood with the SRA and the mind control.
These people help, you know, the victims that the church can't handle,
that are so broken and in need of deliverance, and they do it with
the help of Jesus God, taking their fractured soul parts and piecing them back
together and healing their wounds. And I'm only talking about this because I went
through it myself. You know. I tried therapy, I tried drugs and
alcohol. I tried all the things to make myself feel better. And I'm
telling you this is real. It's really a miracle that I'm here today talking
to you about it. Yeah, I mean, are you comfortable talking about
some of that In terms of your background? I didn't actually know that,
So what what can you say about that in terms of how did that come
about? Was something that was part of your family or like, did you
get inducted into this in Hollywood or what happened? It was in Hollywood through
a Satanist that I was involved with, and it was unfortunately not through my
family. However, this is something that does happen in family bloodlines a lot
of the time, and my deliverance counselor could probably give you a lot more
detail and accurate information on that. But so that's not the first miracle I
witnessed. Then I ended up in rehab. Then the Holy Spirit spoke to
me then, and I was saved. I was watching a joel Osteine sermon
and it was like I knew I wanted to know who Jesus was. And
I started reading the Bible, and then the Bible started reading me, and
the Lord started speaking through the Bible and having me have divine appointments and interactions
with people. So since then, it's been pretty miraculous. You know,
I'm in this rock and roll band, we're touring. It's secular music,
but yet that's I guess where God has me to speak to people and share
the gospel in a way and also pray for them and interceed for them and
plant seeds in the music. So it's a huge honor and a blessing to
be able to do that. But the ritual abuse was so so long ago.
I thought I had recovered from it, but I had been just living
with PTSD for a very long time. And so two people from the church
referred me to my deliverance counselor and she did hands on prayer, and the
only way I can describe it is after my deliverance was over, the noise
stopped. It was peaceful. It was like just the peace that surpasses all
understanding. Now, when you say a long time ago, are you saying
like when you were really young, or was this like a coven or can
you go into any of that or do you not recall this was one person
although there are covens and families and things like that. This was in my
early early twenties, and I did black a lot of it out. I
actually have a hard time remembering a lot of it. But you know,
after I was saved two years later, God started taking me through various deliverances.
My chronic neck pain was gone with hands on prayer, after trying medication,
doctor's chiropractic, things like that, and then and then he wanted to
take it. So God will heal you in layers because he doesn't want to
take you through more than you can handle at the time. And so it
was layers of deliverance, veeling things to me, giving me discernment and eyes
to see. So now I just get this this sense. I know when
someone's demonized. And the thing I want to remind believers and people out there
everyone is people are not your enemy. Satan is your enemy, and he
uses people people with trauma and open gateways and you know, curses in their
bloodline, think you know, the sins of our Father, but there's nothing
anyone has done that can stop them from getting saved and getting delivered. That's
a free gift from Jesus and it's available to everyone. It's a change of
heart. So when you had this experience on the tour bus, how long
ago was this? Was this recent or a few years ago? What was
this? This was a few years ago. I prayed the prayer the next
day, the next evening this happened, and my sound guy and I looked
at each other, like, what just happened? You know? And that
was the day I was convince God was real, but I didn't. That
was just kind of him opening the door, I guess, and revealing himself
to me. And then it was a journey of discovering, you know,
getting born again, getting baptized, receiving the Holy Spirit, having the eyes
to see, getting deliverance, getting healed, and you know, I'm still
a baby, and it's just like kind of a journey with Jesus. We're
walking hand in hand. But I wanted to share this story because this is
a real thing that happens to people, and no it didn't happen as a
child, but it happens to children in horrible ways that you couldn't possibly imagine.
And so I think that the body of Christ needs to get curious about
deliverance. Now. Yeah, so when this occurred, before this event,
like, what was your attitude towards you know, the divine or things transcended?
Did you think there was no god or maybe there's a god, or
like what was your attitude? Maybe I wasn't sure, you know, I
was always one thing I was always searching for was the truth. And I
definitely had an awakening in my early twenties thanks to David Ike. Actually,
I mean his material was so insane that it was the only thing that made
sense to me. And I was blown away that I knew chemtrails were real,
but yet nobody seemed to want to acknowledge it. Things like that.
So I had an awakening then, but then I went back to sleep.
We're being a bombarded on all sides by all these things to put us to
sleep, to keep us stupid, to keep us sick, and I went
back to sleep. But you know, that's just like expert level gaslighting,
when you have the spraying and the sky and you can see it with your
eyes, and Google's telling you that it's a conspiracy theory. And as someone
who's a survivor of SRI and narcissistic abuse, now when that happens, my
fire alarms, my internal alarms just go off. So it's I guess it's
good that I went through those things and came out the other side, because
now I'm a weapon against this. And I told the Lord, just use
me as a you know, just use me to blow up the enemy's camp.
I'm just sick of it. Let's go. So did you You said
that you kind of had an awareness of some of these elements of the New
World Order and what was going on. Was that prior to the conversion experience
or was it the conversion experience? And then you really saw how this battle
that ran isn't just a geopolitical thing, it's also a spiritual thing. Is
that what you're saying? Yeah, I saw it, and I didn't connect
it with the spiritual until I had a spiritual awakening. And now it's like
the whole thing makes sense. And I really credit David Ike with connecting a
lot of seemingly unrelated dots and Alex and people who can see and expand their
vision and see the bigger picture. That's that's something else like. And when
you do have the spirit of truth and the Holy Spirit, you are given
a level of discernment. It's undeniable. Yeah, I mean absolutely, that's
one of the gifts that's mentioned in I think the Corinthians passage. And I'm
curious because you know, right now we're seeing this barrage of news that deals
with aliens and all this kind of nonsense. And I've always believed that there's
a there's a deep seated deception involved in this alien phenomena. You can go
back to people involved working with the Pentagon who then came out and said this
is actually a mass level deception. Like Jacob Eli, the famous DoD computer
or scientist guy. He says this is a malevolent deception. He's not even
a Christian, but he's able to recognize that there is something involved in this
that's more than just human beings at a manipulation level. There's also something spiritual
going on. But he actually says that the entities involved in this, they're
not extraterrestrial. They're actually terrestrial. They're part of this planet and they are
involved in a massed acception to steer in a social engineering way human beings into
some kind of world government or something like this. Would you agree with that?
What's your take on the whole alien phenomenon. I could definitely see that.
I mean, I definitely don't put that past them. I think it's
demonic. I think it's connected. It's beyond I understanding, certainly. And
if you have people in the government kind of leaking this information, is the
mainstream talking about it, probably not. I don't know too much about the
alien thing. I think it's I believe it was Alistair Crowley that said he
had conjured some entity that said, you know, you call us demons,
they call us aliens, and one day you'll know that it's one and the
same something along those lines. I don't want to misquote, but I think
a lot of the things that seem alien are just are demonic, and they
really are not fallen angels bound in cosmic realms. I mean that sounds alien
to me. Yeah, No, I think that element of it that is
demonic is precisely you know, it's a fallen angel situation. That's what I'm
saying. It's I'm not saying it's all I think there's multiple things going on,
So it's not just the government engaging in black ops. I think there's
a real phenomena that's going on. I'm not saying every little grainy clip on
YouTube is demonic, but I'm saying that there is an element by which,
for example, if you look at people who've done DMT, or people who've
done a lot of acid, or the psychonautics like Terrence McKenna or Timothy Leary
or John C. Lily, when they talk about their trips and when they
talk about interacting with these interdimensional entities, you know, it's the same type
of thing that David Ike talks about that you mentioned. They always say that
the message that they've been given is haval role government. You need to depopulate.
You can't run the planet correctly because you built bombs. And if you
just do what we say and you worship us, then you're gonna get the
utopia, a kind of a socialist tech Utokia. So I mean that to
me just as the demonic, I mean, demons have always engaged in prompting
human beings to do the same types of activities like offer up you're firstborn,
to us, right, you know this kind of stuff. So that's exactly
what the entities that are speaking to people are saying. It's no different than
what I mean Alex was saying. You know Ellen Page today, like her
her process of hearing a voice telling her to mutilate herself. I mean to
me, that is again, why is no one accepting the best explanation for
these phenomena is the demonic dire of Jay's analysis. Want remind you too that
if you want to get deep into that alien nonsense and all the breakdowns that
I've done, if you go to Bandai video, you can search my name
and you'll find at least four or five different four hours that I've done deconstructing
the alien stuff from my vantage point. You go to my YouTube channel,
Jaydyer, and you can find the most recent podcast that we did a couple
of days ago, just kind of mocking and making fun of this. I
want to note too that if you look at Isaiah eleven, there's a really
interesting passage. Is one of the most famous Messianic passages predicting the Messiah says,
I shall come forth a root from the rod of Jesse, A flowers
shall grow out of his root. The spirit of God will rest upon him,
the spirit of wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, godliness,
spirit of the fear of God shall fill him. And of course David
being the son of Jesse. There that is a reference to the divinic lineage
of Jesus the Messiah. And so we have these spirits that are mentioned,
right, these seven spirits, and Paul and first Granthians mentions these gifts of
the Spirit. And so I'm assuming that that's where Dorothy got the inspiration for
her most recent album a few months ago, right, which is Gifts from
the Holy Ghost. Right, So I actually named the album before I had
ever opened the Bible. I feel like, God, how can you give
you onloads? And this happened. I woke up in my hotel room in
New York City. I was writing and recording the record. I woke up
and the first thing I heard was Gifts from the Holy Ghost. I wrote
it down, and I didn't know what the gifts from the Holy Spirit were.
With the fruits of the Holy Spirit were Church made me nervous, you
know. So I wrote it down and I thought that sounds like a great
album title. I finished the last song gifts from the Holy Ghost and which
I feel has very rich spiritual messaging. And there it was, and I
ended up getting saved after that. So God's really funny with his perfect divine
timing of doing things so that you know it's him. Oh, absolutely,
yeah, Divine providence is that I think you know, before I got into
you know, this worldview, you tend to see things as synchronicity. Right,
Let's like Carl Young, synchronicity. But then that you start to realize,
well, synchronicity doesn't really make sense if it's like coming from psyche,
right, That's what the way Karl Young pictures it all. It's like even
as an essay where he talks about UFOs and he says, oh, the
UFOs are a manifestation of our unconscious, right, But that doesn't really make
sense because it's not our unconscious that's manifesting these things. There is a divine
mind, the divine consciousness, you could say, And that makes sense for
how reality can be organized via divine providence, by our free will working together
with divine providence. To me, that makes a lot more sense than this
idea that our psyche manifests it, like Karl Young, says, but yeah,
I think that on the notion of spiritual warfare too, And we didn't
really mention this in the pre interview discussion, but you know, I'm Orthodox,
and it's ironic because only to my knowledge, only the Orthodox Church still
does the ancient form of exorcism at baptism. So in the early Church they
would actually do a ritual of exorcism as part of the baptismal ritual. I'm
not knocking you know, your conversion or anything like that. I'm just saying
that one of the reasons I found Orthodoxy appealing was that when you look into
the history of the Church, you have this ancient baptismal right, and they
would always include the ritual of exorcism as part of baptism. And to me,
that suggests that, you know, the Church has to have this notion
of the reality of spiritual warfare, and a lot of the Orthodox hymnography,
a lot of the chance that we see they are their rife with this notion
of spiritual warfare and battling the demonic realm. And I think that that's an
element that I'm not personally charismatic obviously, but a lot of charismatics get that
element correct, like they realize there is a reality to spiritual warfare. And
some charismatics can go crazy with this, but a lot of it might be
a lot of the Protestant churches kind of have a fractured element where they like
different ones have pieces of truth. Right. But I think that if we
understand the notion of authority, if we understand the notion of the church possessing
this power, you know said you will do these things, you will cast
out demons, he says to the apostles in Luke right, and he says,
I've given you authority over the scorpions, over all the enemy and so
forth. So I appreciate that, you know, you've incorporated that into your
music and into your worldview about how you approach writing. Do you find that
to be difficult when you write with the people that you write with, because
you just have this big thing drop what I know, You've got your album
which is about some months ago. You have a new song that just dropped
with Nita right. Yes, Nita Strauss Victorious fellow Believer, and we wanted
a very empowering song that was going to encourage young women. I think we
accomplished that so, yeah, her and I talk about this. It's it's
true. Spiritual warfare is a real thing. Believers have been given authority by
Jesus, and a lot of them don't know their authority, and the enemy
will hammer them. And it's so obvious because the devil never has any new
tricks. I mean, it's always before a big interview or before of some
big blessing. And if you can just nail your flesh to the cross,
so to speak, and not react to the flesh, and pick up your
tools, go into praise and worship, use the word of God, which
is the sort of the spirit, command that enemy to leave you in the
name of Jesus. Command those spirits Jezebel, whoever's attacking you to go in
Jesus name. And if you know your authority and you've been given it by
Jesus, they have to obey you. And yeah, of course the devil
wants you to worship him, but he hates humans, he hates us.
So why would you worship something that hates us, that wants to see your
demise in your destruction. I mean that sounds like, you know, masochism.
To me. That's a really good point. I think that a lot
of times people that are getting more and more serious about their Satanism, for
example, they actually do get into harming themselves. You know, if you
go back to the Old Testament, when not just the Fall, when you
know, Jesus says that Satan was the first thief and liar, right,
he lied, he stole man's life. That was what he did in the
garden. If you fast forward to the time of Elijah when he's dealing with
the profits of bail, when they're on the mountain having that spiritual confrontation,
what is it that the profits of bail are doing. They're they're cutting themselves
and they're trying to invoke they all bay alzibub, right by cutting themselves self
harm and the release of the blood and whatnot. They they thought would bring
this entity, that would bring this power to them, and it didn't.
Nothing happened, right, It only harmed them. And if you look at
other instances in scripture, for example, where we see people who are mentioned
committing suicide, there's only a few of these in scripture. There's Judas and
there's Saul. And in both cases Judas and Saul were specifically said to be
possessed in I guess different degrees. I think I think Judas was a lot
more possessed than Saul was. But both of those guys killed themselves. So
we have two instances in scripture of suicide. In both cases the people were
specifically demonically possessed. So the theme here that I'm getting at is that every
time we see this manifestation in scripture of the presence of the demonic, and
it's always self harm. Remember the guy in the tombs. When Jesus casts
out the demon the guy wandering in the tombs, it says that he kept
throwing himself into the fire and trying to kill himself. So every time suicide
appears, it's always in the presence of the demonic, and that to me
suggests that self harm mutilating oneself. This is very relevant for a lot of
what's going on in our culture right now. It has a spiritual root.
It's not just bad ideology. It's a spiritual problem. And until we address
the spiritual problem, the problems can't be fixed. You can't fix these things
with politics. What do you think, Well, yeah, And I want
to point out that the blood covenants, the drinking of the blood in Hollywood
the cutting, the releasing of blood. Blood is the highest currency in the
spirit realm. That's why Jesus gave his blood for us and made a mockery
of Satan and disarmed him and defeated him and took the keys back. It
was the power in the blood. The reason is that blood is the highest
currency in the spirit realm. So and yeah, it's definitely demonic when you
hear voices telling you to cut yourself. I would suggest getting getting some deliverance
and coming to know God, because he can set you free from all that.
You could have sold your soul to Satan himself or have it embedded in
your bloodline and still be set free. Satan doesn't own your soul. He
doesn't have any right to it. He has no authority over it. God
God does and God's name is literally printed on your DNA. So I think
that settles that. I want to remind everybody that they can follow you.
We still got another segment after this, but they can follow you over on
your channel at Dorothy. They can check out the new album Gifts from the
Holy Ghost, What relatively new passed your mind right, and then your new
song with Nita is on. I think her channel, and they can follow
you on Instagram as right as well, Right right, just at Dorothy,
I got lucky, I got the handle that if you are in the La
Hollywood area, we will be live in La July six with Jamie Kennedy,
Yes, Jamie Kennedy from the Jamie Kinney Experiment, from Malibu's Most Wanted from
Scream Randy Meeks in person. How would you not want to be there for
that? It's a blast. Our live events are the bomb if you don't
know, it's more like a five hour party. At our live events.
We do comedy, we do impressions, we do serious stuff. We actually
get into a lot of real hardcore information. My wife will be doing a
discussion on esoteric Hollywood, what you guys know, I have two books on
that, and I will be doing a presentation on my new book Meta Narratives,
The Essays on Philosophy and Symbolism. So I'll be covering a lot of
philosophical topics as well as doing a lot of ridiculous nonsense. And as you
guys may or may not have seen, I performed my first cringe course song
live last weekend at Courtney Turner's event, and so the crowd got trolled.
They didn't know what they were gonna get, and they actually got a live
version of my Matthew McConaughey song, Pure Cringe, Pure Live. And I
might actually do quite a few of those if you come to the LA event,
as well as serious stuff. So if you head on over to my
website, Jason Alsos dot com, you'll see under every post there is the
link of the live events. Get your ticket to the July six Los Angeles
event in the links there the event right links. It's gonna be a lot
of fun. And then of course Jamie will be Jamie Kennedy will be the
headliner doing some stand up and you can also get on over to his merch
table and meet him and get a few picks with him. He's a great
dude, very cool. Let's get back to this notion of spiritual warfare.
I think again, think about what we're told with alien nonsense, right,
aliens or these interdimensional entities. The message is always that if you just have
a world government, if you just worship us, if you just depopulate,
we'll give you solutions, We'll give you advanced technology. This is the message
of childhoods or remember Arthur C. Clark was himself a confessed Chrolean, I
confessed Luciferian. He had some weird predilections in terms of the peto stuff,
as Alex just talked about this week, And in his book he actually writes
that carollin the Overlord is a freaking demon. He's got hoofs, he looks
like a giant demon. And people can't figure this out. The soy nerds
are out there like, oh it's science. Oh, they're advanced from another
civilization and they're gonna bring me a coom Potter and I could just have fun
for ever. It's gonna be too great. No, it's a demon,
dummy. It even looks like a freaking demon, and you can't tell it's
a demon. Come on, now, come on, what is wrong with
you people? It's a massive deception. Now. In scripture, we have
the story early on in Genesis. It's implicit in Genesis, and then it's
explained later on by chapter three, and then as the text progresses we get
the story of before Man's fall, there was another fall. Did you know
there was another fall before Man fell? That was the Angelic Fall? And
that Angelic fall happened outside of time and space, outside of the normal phase
of human experience of time. It happened in the spiritual realm, the aon
is what the church fathers called it. And so the angels, because they
don't exist in time like humans do, they were tested at once and outside
of time. When they fell, it was an instantaneous fall, and angels
from every one of those ranks of the nine choirs that are listed in the
various texts of Scripture fell John says that one third of the angels fell with
Satan, and so they launched into this rebellion against God and against humankind.
As Dorothy said, they hate humans. Why well, in orthodox theology we
understand that they hate human beings because humans are made not just in the image
of God, but also to be raised, as Paul says, above the
angels. So there's a fundamental envy that Satan and his hosts had against man
because man was made in the image of the Logos. In our view in
the garden, it's man that's walking around with the logos with the preincarnate Christ.
Man is made in the image of Christ. Adam, Paul says,
Adam is after the image of Christ in his letters, So it's a more
specific notion of being made in the image of God, not just in the
image of the Trinity, but also in the image of the Logos, the
preincarnate Logos, who would then become incarnate. So a man himself in the
garden is kind of a prefiguring, a foreshadowing of the incarnation. And thus
Satan's hatred of humankind results from this envy and desire to destroy the thing that
reminds him of his creator Christ. You say, in the beginning, was
the Word or was with God? The Word was God. All things came
to be through the Logos. Christ is the creator even of Satan. And
so the angelic fall created this race of entities, you could say angelic race.
Then Dad's set on destroying humankind at first until the birth of Christ,
to destroy and persecute Israel because Israel would give birth to the Massium, and
then now the Church to destroy the Church, because the Church is the body
of the Messium on earth. Read Isaiah. Isaiah is the fifth Gospel.
So I want to go back to Dorothy. Dorothy, you were talking about
this spiritual warfare when you before you were interested in these topics, before you
had your conversion experience. How did you look upon Christianity? Did you see
it as a bunch of goofballs and goobers that were duped and believed a bunch
of stupid stuff. Or was it because they didn't talk about the reality of
the spiritual warfare and the reality of what you saw in Hollywood? Or what
was it that? How did you see it before I saw it the way
the world sees it. You know, I couldn't. I couldn't sit in
church and during worship it made me cringe. You know. The one or
two times I had gone to church, I felt completely uncomfortable, crawling out
of my skin, probably because I was demonized. And they really don't like
that, you know. But when when you accept Jesus, you give him
legal authority over your life, and now you get the veil comes off and
you see the truth. And I honestly can't believe I'm sitting here and I'm
saying, yes, I read about Jesus, and I talk to Jesus and
I pray, and I know what spiritual warfare is. I love it when
the Satanists say, you know, Satanism is just about self worship. There's
no devil, Yes, there's a devil, and the demons are spirits without
bodies, you know, and those that have the eyes to see you can
see them. So you're not crazy. Body of Christ. You're not you
know, you're not losing it. You've been given a gift that can be
uncomfortable to operate in sometimes, but you're you know, we're trying to save
as many souls before it's time to go. And the last thing, one
of the last things I wanted to say is no matter what you've done,
you can still get be saved and get delivered. And alson is the same
when it's nailed to the cross. I mean, Paul was murdering Christians,
right, So just remember that when you start to listen to the flaming arrows
of the enemy coming into your mind with the shame and the condemnation and the
guilt, the devil will lie to you in your own voice. And the
mind is the battlefield. And if you go into praise and worship, that
will break. That's one tactic. So it's absolutely real. And here I
am. I would never go back to my life before Jesus. For all
the money in the world, for all the fame, for all the dreams.
All the fruit that the devil wants to give you is poison. It's
tainted, and the demons always come to collect their pound of flesh, you
know, and everything he has is just a sad counterfeit. And I would
never My life now is just too good. Serving God is just so fulfilling.
I don't feel alone. And since everyone is feeling so alone and isolated,
and that's just an epidemic in our world, maybe they need to try
God. Because I have a sense of just being loved and cared for and
connected with the body of Christ. I will run into people don't even know,
and we will pray together, and we know that God orchestrated that meeting
as a divine appointment that day because someone needed it. So it's pretty miraculous
and supernatural. I mean, I serve an awesome God and I'm still going
to play rock and roll, so it's the best of both worlds. Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, David, multiple people in the
Old Testament were skilled musicians, so you know, nothing, there's nothing wrong
all the talents that we have, or talents given to us by God,
you know, to use for that for that purpose. So I'm really cool
to have you on. Thank you for giving your testimony, your journey.
I think that people should understand that as things get more insane, as we
see more and more evil, that's actually a call to repentance. It's a
call to noticing that there's objective good. Right. Evil is not a thing
that exists or has being in the sense of you know, everything that God
created it exists as good. And what evil does that it's a privation.
It's a negation against the good. It's always an act against the good.
That's it. That's all they ever can be. And so the more that
we see evil in the world, it should wake people up, especially people
who are skeptics or people who don't think that. I mean, why is
there a commonality amongst the all of the ancient empires of the world having this
anti human agenda where the empires enact the worship of some weird you know,
deity or ruler or tyrant Nimrod Babbel, and they require human sacrifice. If
there's objective evil, there's objective good.