1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:17,359 Made decision. Oh thanks Sunny sun On. So what's up everybody? Hi, 2 00:00:17,559 --> 00:00:21,079 it's Friday. Yeah, it's our Friday show. But we're recording out 3 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:26,440 of order closure in case we in case we mess up. We're not going 4 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:29,600 to mess up. Oh, go to mess up, going to mess up. 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,079 We shouldn't have even I shouldn't have even told you guys that you don't 6 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:35,520 you don't need that. You're on a need to know basis. Let us 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:41,920 say hello to our gorgeous, our gorgeous listeners like like Leslie. Oh, 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,679 we'll stop with the coughing. Still, I feel like COVID's really gone way 9 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:49,920 down. So Leslie, now you're just doing it for attention. You know. 10 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,320 The other Leslie is accosting people left and right. She you know who 11 00:00:53,359 --> 00:00:58,119 she's out there with Gabby and Missy. Oh yeah she that Leslie is a 12 00:00:58,119 --> 00:01:02,039 bad influence on Gaby and Missy. Oh that's pretty bad. That's saying something 13 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,319 right. Also, Kelly Brandt, she's not your aunt, she is your 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,079 aunt, You're right. Alicia escalanteve in the City of Almonte, Rebecca when 15 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:18,760 she's a so cute, Shanda Ishan Vajpe, badass, Katerina, get your 16 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:23,560 Moler checked, Rachel's she's a newcomer. She's back, She's back, Ashley 17 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:29,239 so she Kelly, Ladi da Amy, you're a cunt. Katie's rolling on 18 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,359 e not Anna faris Aaron who dis Nikki call you a girl? Uh? 19 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:38,640 Valerie hits out of the park, Polly, we love your pancakes. Elizabeth 20 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,879 Williamson has a lot of kids and all of them. Yeah. And Athena 21 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,319 Ginscherd likes to dance with them, and Rita likes to rock them in her 22 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:53,200 Bossinette and Jacob is so growley and uh. Also Sarah Stefanos, she's your 23 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,519 Paisano. And Aaron is a dirty Sanchez and Jennifer stand up. And Sandra 24 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:01,760 it's not easy being green. Christ to get the strap. And Stephanie is 25 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:06,640 a stinker wrinker. And I think that's everybody. I think I got everybody. 26 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,960 Yeah, I And we're doing our zoom this weekend, Yes, our 27 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,719 patriots on Sunday for ten dollars and above. Okay, So I will be 28 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:20,960 in Palm Springs by the way, Oh you will. Yeah, So you're 29 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,919 gonna zoom in from Palm Springs area chaperoning a trip that I got bamboozled into 30 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:35,520 for who sounds like it's all stage coach coach, But isn't Coachella this weekend 31 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,599 too? Yeah? Coachella is this weekend as well. It is. Yeah, 32 00:02:38,599 --> 00:02:42,560 so there's stage Coach and Coachelle at the same time. Well, I 33 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:46,400 know Coachelle is two weekends, and this last weekend was the first one. 34 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,680 So I think this upcoming weekend is. Oh, well, then maybe it's 35 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:52,439 not this weekend. Yeah, I think stage Coach is the weekend after. 36 00:02:52,520 --> 00:03:00,199 It's probably Oh what is the weekend after? Yes, good God, be 37 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,800 home. I'll be home and enjoy life, enjoying all this non coach Ella 38 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:15,319 environment, non stage coach. Yeah. So yesterday I stayed in bed a 39 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,719 lot of the day. I don't know why. I just you know, 40 00:03:19,439 --> 00:03:22,759 it was drizzling off and on. Yeah, it was one of those days 41 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,439 I did too. I was super unmotivated, and I decided that I was 42 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:31,280 going to watch the Brandy Hellville Yep, me too. Doc. Did you 43 00:03:31,319 --> 00:03:36,680 watch it? No? Because I got sideswiped into another doc? Oh what 44 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:42,639 HBO Max? About Onision? The YouTuber? Have you guys heard of him? 45 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:46,319 Because I've never heard of him either. He's like one of the original 46 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:54,960 YouTubers that I don't know he's he gives off what's the guy uh? In 47 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,919 the documentary there's two documentaries, one on Netflix, one on Prime the Twin 48 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:06,199 Flames, he gives off that guy that douchebags vibes. He's like him. 49 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:14,080 But he would do like stupid videos and think it's funny and just like you 50 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,439 know, the kind of humor that like fifteen year olds would think is funny. 51 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:20,160 Right, I'm a dressing like a banana and singing I'm a banana, 52 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:29,680 I'm a banana, like what okay? So, and basically he would lure 53 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:35,360 like these young fans of his fifteen sixteen year old girls to hang out with 54 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:41,920 him, and like he would seduce and then they would just turn eighteen. 55 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,920 Like one of them was seventeen, and he found out that she was in 56 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:54,319 Pennsylvania and so they're the legal age of consent is seventeen there, so that 57 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,399 he so he flew there to meet her and then like seduced her into being 58 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:01,720 his girlfriend. And then she turned eighteen and then she moved in with him 59 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:06,519 to his place in Washington, and then Chris Hansen gets involved. Oh, 60 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:12,439 and his shit's in this documentary and they interview him, because this guy's a 61 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,319 fucking predator, right, He's preying on these young teenage fans of his and 62 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,639 he waits until they get just close to like seventeen or eighteen. Then he 63 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:25,639 like, it's a crazy it's like four part episode. Four part isn't on 64 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,560 Max. It's on Max. What's it called? Oh Nisson? Okay, 65 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:32,639 they're in real life? Yeah, okay, well okay, so tell me 66 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:38,279 this leads me to we okay, because I also want to talk about I 67 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:44,199 watched a series that is also on Max. Yeah, called Mean Girl Murders. 68 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:46,480 I saw that I wanted him. Yeah, I got sucked in and 69 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:50,839 watched all the episodes that exist. Now I'm watching this and I'm like, 70 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:56,120 you know and John John was like, you love your True Crime and I 71 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,600 was like, well, it's just so crazy how the brains of like a 72 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,439 there's some of them have to do with like high school mean girls, and 73 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,839 it's like it's like you get you gives you that feeling of like I fucking 74 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,759 knew it. I knew that some of these girls are like seriously bad news 75 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:14,920 and stuff. Can shit can really go sideways? Hey? You know these 76 00:06:14,959 --> 00:06:18,399 criminal minds that start young, where these people have like no remorse. Then 77 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:24,240 I was thinking about it, and then I got defensive of myself because I'm 78 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:30,240 like, I was remembering this post that but he made about us, but 79 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:34,240 all of us this is doesn't hurt you and me. Kylen gets involved in 80 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:39,959 Kylen she didn't on stage, doesn't he doesn't watch that stuff. This is 81 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:43,000 more so I'm going to read you this was a post that somebody made. 82 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,560 They're anonymous, but and then I called him out for their real name and 83 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,120 then they said, well, I don't use my real name anyway, so 84 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,800 it doesn't really matter. Uh. They said, I've listened for a long 85 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,480 time. Would you consider splitting up the weekly episodes, when to discuss your 86 00:06:58,519 --> 00:07:01,680 lives, kids, et cetera, and the other to discuss the crime shows. 87 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:08,120 Now let me I'm just gonna interject really fast that we do. We 88 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,279 already almost all the time our Tuesday episode has to do with like family stuff 89 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:16,240 or you know, stuff that's happened during the week, and discussing the college 90 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:20,439 and stuff. And then usually Friday we've run out of stuff to talk about 91 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,240 from our regular lives and we're like, what are you watching? Right? 92 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:28,399 And that's when and then we happen to like like true crime. Yeah, 93 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:30,160 so then we'll talk about that, you know, because we don't talk about 94 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,759 Kaylin's dorky, freaking sci fi nerdy. It's usually what we're watching, happens 95 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:40,439 on Friday, what podcasts we're listening to, whatever. It just happens to 96 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,600 be that way, not that we never discuss. And also, like we 97 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:48,519 recently discussed, like the Ruby Frankie situation, we talked about that maybe on 98 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,759 it don't, I don't know, but pretty much we do that. Okay. 99 00:07:54,959 --> 00:07:59,240 I work in the courts directly with victims, witnesses, and perpetrators of 100 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:03,120 the horrifics you only see on TV. It's definitely traumatizing, and I get 101 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,759 more enough of it during the week. I don't need to hear more. 102 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:09,319 But I also would prefer not to give up listening to your show altogether. 103 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,439 To be honest, you both seem like decent people, and I worry them. 104 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,199 Let me preface it by seem like decent people, and I worry that 105 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:28,759 you and then in parentheses and so many other people get so titillated hearing about 106 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:33,360 women and children being raped and murdered. Yeah, because because that's what we 107 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,000 mostly talk about when we talk about true crime is just the just the raping 108 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,480 and the murdering of little children, right, first of all, and I'm 109 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:43,759 not done yet, But first of all, I just want to say that 110 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,320 I made it pretty clear, maybe like a month or two ago, that 111 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,600 I was like, that's one thing I don't we did talk about. I 112 00:08:50,639 --> 00:08:54,639 don't like I can't listen to anything that happens to kids. For one thing, 113 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,720 Yeah, I don't anytime I see on a podcast about it, if 114 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,159 it's not like more of a schological like or we did somebody killing their husband 115 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,519 or who did it? Then I skip it. But I want to hear 116 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:11,039 about horrible things happening, and not to women either. And as I've said 117 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,360 many times, I don't even I don't like serial killer stuff. I don't 118 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:20,159 like stuff where I like psychological like how does this person's brain work? I 119 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,840 want to figure it out. I want to go like, oh my god, 120 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,519 the husband totally did it, Like how can they're not? You know, 121 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,679 it's all that stuff that makes our brains work. And yes, and 122 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,159 I also think you and I both we empathize with the victim, and it 123 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,639 makes you think, like how would I react? If I was in that 124 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:41,679 situation, or or sometimes it's just people getting out of bad situations, you 125 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,159 know. Okay, so she totally doesn't get us at all, but apparently 126 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,559 we get so titillated by women and children being raped and murdered. It's very 127 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:56,240 similar to people who get stimulated by child pornography. Yeah wow, but as 128 00:09:56,279 --> 00:10:01,639 long as these programs are legal, they'll continue to decent, otherwise healthy people, 129 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:05,159 much like adult porn has done to many young adults. So now she's 130 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:11,200 compared it to getting desensitized by kids watching porn and getting desensitized, and to 131 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:16,840 us watching child porn, we're having the same We're having the same, apparently 132 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:22,519 reaction. Okay, So people got mad, as you can imagine. So 133 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,000 somebody wrote true crime is not the same as child porn, and then like 134 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:33,200 they're dead, you know, And then somebody wrote, our friend Michelle Ramos 135 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,600 wrote, sometimes I fast forward through the reality show stuff because I don't watch 136 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:41,200 it. Maybe consider doing that. Titillating seems like an odd choice of words, 137 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:46,240 and comparing it to child porn seems judging in a far reach. Okay. 138 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,720 Then a bunch of people are like, don't post anonymously and some people 139 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:54,279 are like, they're fine with it, okay, and you know, I 140 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,279 want to get to where she she pipes, she pipes back in. In 141 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,039 the meantime, I would just like to point out that I think true crime 142 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:09,519 is the most popular like casts genre. Yes it is. Yeah, but 143 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,519 yeah, we don't talk about like the cult stuff. You mostly talk about 144 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,919 the cults, like the cults. Yes, yeah, we like cults, 145 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,200 yeah, wind flames yeah. Okay, So this one, our friend Catherine 146 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:26,440 Keys said, there's a reason why they posted anonymously. Lol. They knew 147 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,879 this wouldn't fly. Obviously they might have an issue because they don't seem to 148 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,200 understand the only thing we all enjoy is being the detective and getting into the 149 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:39,960 minds of these scumbags. I don't anybody anyone gets titillated by children being murdered 150 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,919 and raped. Ever. And then they wrote at least the admins will know 151 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:50,039 who anonymous is. And then I wrote Alison Foster and then she wrote still 152 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:54,919 in the group. Okay, so now here anonymous comes back. Wow, 153 00:11:56,039 --> 00:12:00,360 what an angry bunch. Good thing. My Facebook name isn't my real name. 154 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,080 Some of you would fly your brooms straight to my house. That said 155 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,200 you're not detectives. If you were, you wouldn't listen to this junk. 156 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,720 I work with detectives, and trust me, they do better things in their 157 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:16,879 spare time. If you want to play detective, read a mystery school. 158 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:22,200 What fun is that? There's no fun in reading? Stephanie spelled wrong. 159 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,720 By the way, have the right to make their own show, but I 160 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:30,799 have the right to comment and make suggestions and propose ideas. Your idea is 161 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:35,399 something that we're already doing. Bitch. Finally, to anyone into those shows 162 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:41,440 I used to be, I used to be genuinely flabbergasted and confused. I've 163 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,480 heard they're the most popular amongst middle aged women, and as a middle aged 164 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,000 woman myself, I can't understand why, but it seems it feels unhealthy to 165 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:52,720 me. So if you couldn't understand the comparison of watching these shows and watching 166 00:12:52,840 --> 00:13:00,879 child porn, maybe you'll understand comparing them to snuff porn. Wow, christ 167 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:07,200 what they're both exactly the same goal getting excited from watching or hearing someone die, 168 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,919 preferably with as much gory's stomach churning detail as possible. Healthy humans shouldn't 169 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,200 enjoy that. That's not judgy, that's sanity. Oh my goodness, I 170 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,600 mean, listen, we're not sitting around listening. That's horrible. I would 171 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,919 never do that. And I don't listen to any podcasts that are that that 172 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,879 are gory. Right. If you're listening to Dateline, they're they're not. 173 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,919 You're not listening to if that's terrible. Most of the time Dateline, By 174 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,080 the way, I was just noticing, it's always like a case gone cold 175 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:43,200 until somebody makes a confession. Forensics, right, yes, exactly. My 176 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:48,039 son had take took a forensics class in high school and to learn about the 177 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,480 pattern of blood splatter and how that could solve a crime. Like yeah, 178 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:56,799 you know, and yeah, okay, we're not we're not detectives. We 179 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,120 understand that. But the problem is it's like we you know, yeah, 180 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,759 I listen, I get it. She might, you know, she works 181 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:15,799 way around criminals and detectives and the police force and real true victims. You 182 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,159 know, I'm sure she's seen a lot, but what she's what comparing us 183 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,840 to that is a judge though. It's Yeah, here's a response our friend 184 00:14:24,919 --> 00:14:28,720 Susan Ferry that I think sums it up pretty well. She says. Anonymous 185 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:33,799 member you are so off the mark, it's ridiculous. Studies have shown that 186 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:39,159 the majority of true crime followers do so as a reinforcement of moral clarity and 187 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:43,840 curiosity about the motivations of the criminals, concerns about justice and the legal system, 188 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,720 and the thrill of solving a real life who's done it For a few 189 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:50,840 For myself, it was always about trying to figure out what makes these criminals 190 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:54,840 tick. I'm not interested in the gory details. I'm sixty four, but 191 00:14:54,879 --> 00:14:58,159 I've been following true crime since I was in my twenties. The Bill Curtis 192 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,399 Days, Yes, what was it? American Justice? Yeah? I love 193 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:09,320 that shot show? Uh for me? Okay uh? And yes, it 194 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,519 makes me angry that you weirdly think this topic titilates me the way that pedophiles 195 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:16,279 are titillated by child porn. For me as well as for most, it's 196 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,240 more of a sociological interest, and frankly, I think it's strange that you 197 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:24,360 miss that completely. You must tune out when people do discuss the reasons for 198 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,600 this interest, because those discussions happen all the time. It's also a weird 199 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,840 flex for you to demonize those of us who defend ourselves against your aggressive statements 200 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,000 by saying some of us would want to fly on our brooms to your house. 201 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,279 You don't seem to know how interactions work. I'll break it down. 202 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:46,480 When you compare people who are following a legal, informative and educational interest in 203 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,320 something to people who harm, molest, rape, and murder children, chances 204 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:58,399 are there going to be angry with you boom anyway, So back to young 205 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,639 girl murders. Yes, I've seen those, I think. And it's not 206 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:07,360 just on Max. It's on like the Discovery Channel or something. Each episode 207 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:11,919 is different. It's basically like girl on girl crime. It's not all about 208 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,360 high school girls because that would be really hard to watch too, but some 209 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,399 of it is about like how mean girls they start out. You get to 210 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:23,120 see them starting out in high school and how they behave m hm. And 211 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:29,320 you and I have been not a party too, but had a front row 212 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:33,960 seat to lots of our own mean girl stuff in the past, but also 213 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,559 raising girls, teenage girls and being around teenage girls. Yeah, and what 214 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:42,039 we see and how they interact with each other and the type of drama that 215 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:47,000 happens. I mean lot of drama. Yeah, LB was the victim of 216 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,639 some real mean girl stuff in middle school, like serious mean girl stuff. 217 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,720 And it's wild when you watch the stuff when these girls grow up and they're 218 00:16:56,759 --> 00:17:00,759 still at it. I now, yeah, they don't grow there's still mean 219 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,920 old bitches, right. Yeah. So I watched that. I watched and 220 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,440 then John was making fun of me because he's like, man, how many 221 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,680 of these episodes are there? Well, it turns out I start watching it 222 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,559 and I'm like, holy shit, there are two seasons. Yes, I 223 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,039 was watching season two. So I went back and watched season one and I 224 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,720 just could not motivate to leave the house. Well because it was rainy and 225 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,599 yeah, you know, it was constant. So I watched the Brandy. 226 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,799 Oh so you did watch health? I watched it. Yeah, And how 227 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:37,279 was that? It's pretty crazy? It is pretty crazy. It's nothing that 228 00:17:37,319 --> 00:17:40,359 we don't know. I thought they did. John watched it with me, 229 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,200 by the way, and he was like, this is a really well done 230 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:48,839 documentary. A lot of it was about fast fashion and just how bad for 231 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,160 the environment it is, and it was appalling to see that stuff. It 232 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:59,920 made me I'm banning buying stuff from shean Oh yeah, because it's just garb. 233 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,839 It's just it's garbage quality, it's they mistreat these people that make the 234 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:10,519 clothes. But also it just there's no reason everybody should just be like thrifting, 235 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,039 you know, thrift. Yeah, I almost. I I buy so 236 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:22,440 much of my clothes, so many of my clothing items from a Poshmark, 237 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:26,839 because half the time I'll figure out a pair. Like it's so rare that 238 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:32,240 I buy stuff that's new, only not even because I've been so against it, 239 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:36,400 but because usually I find something that I like and then I can't find 240 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,559 it right right, Like if it's like a pair of jeans or like I 241 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:42,200 had this one pair of jeans that are from Target, you know, Universal 242 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:47,519 Threads, Target brand, and they're really cute, but I went down a 243 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,759 size right and I couldn't find them. I went to a few different targets. 244 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:53,240 I couldn't find them for sale at Target. So I went on Poshmark 245 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,319 immediately found them, wow, in the size I needed, and they were 246 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:02,960 like ten bucks plus shipping. Right. I'm like, sure, I haven't 247 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,960 bought clothes in a long time, I have to say, but like, 248 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,920 yeah, the thrifting thing is good, good thing to do. Yeah. 249 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,920 So so the point is they got into though, I mean this guy, 250 00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:18,720 the guy that runs its name, his name is like I want to say 251 00:19:18,759 --> 00:19:22,079 Steven, like marsha On. I think that was the name of the guy 252 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,119 who came up with the company. He's just a gross guy. It's very 253 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,680 similar to American Apparel, these stories about these founders that are just like these 254 00:19:30,759 --> 00:19:36,359 kind of gross old guys, who are you know, they just there. 255 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,119 He's anti Semitic. I mean, his sense of humor is he seems pretty 256 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,119 racist, pretty anti semitic, making a lot of horrible, bad taste jokes, 257 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,839 but also and then sending them around to the different people that work there, 258 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,480 including so there's sometimes young girls that work there. He made a lot 259 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:59,559 of the young girls. He would find these girls on the street and basically 260 00:19:59,559 --> 00:20:03,880 they'd be like, do you want to be our model? And then and 261 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,279 then all the girls had to have like basically like a fit check. So 262 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:11,039 when they get to work, they hire all these young white, pretty blonde, 263 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,319 very skinny girls, and then they have to take their picture when they 264 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,240 come in in what they're wearing, and sometimes they would just be like chest 265 00:20:18,279 --> 00:20:22,279 shots or legs and stuff, and then they have to send them all to 266 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:26,519 the guy. Oh and then he had a big collection of all of these 267 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:32,839 pictures of these young girls. So see that's the thing. You think Brandy 268 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:37,920 Melville's run by some blonde like you know, waspy housewife and Malibu and it's 269 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,920 her, you know, clothing line. It turns out some scumbag behind the 270 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,559 whole thing. He's a guy behind it. I didn't know the guy. 271 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,119 Yeah, I didn't know anything about it, dude, the one super right 272 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,039 wing. He's a total trumper. Well, the one thing I did know 273 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,160 about it that I hate it all along was the one size fits all bull 274 00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:02,319 talk about that like that's ridiculous. Yes, those T shirts, remember I 275 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,200 used to complain they look like they're for toddlers. Yeah, ridiculous. And 276 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,200 they're just proud of that. They're really proud of that. Are they still 277 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,359 going today, by the way, Are they in business? Uh? Yes, 278 00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:18,680 course, yeah, they're making billions. Yeah. Oh wow, let's 279 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:25,160 take a quick break. Anyway, that was a good documentary. Then I 280 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,559 watched I was on a tear lint. Then I watched the Synanon documentary. 281 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:33,559 So which one because there's one on Max The Max one. Okay, it's 282 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:37,480 really good, but you know, they take their time getting to what's bad 283 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:41,640 about the things? So you know, I'm watching it and I'm like, 284 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,720 I want to I kind of want to join up. You totally understand, 285 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:52,079 like what's cool about it? You're like it seems very I mean, I 286 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,519 kind of know how it goes dark and becomes a little Jim Jones esque. 287 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:02,599 The guy Charles Dietrich does become sort of k So this guy invents this thing 288 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,400 where it's basically for people who are kicking heroin. Oh, the Synanon. 289 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,519 Oh. I was thinking it's the it's a camp for kids. I was 290 00:22:11,559 --> 00:22:17,720 thinking that's that's what the thing was. Well the oh you mean the program, 291 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,400 Yeah, that one about the Paris Hilton like that, right, but 292 00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:25,960 didn't s did They separated the kids from the adults and there was a whole 293 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:30,200 kids ok there are there is another documentary I think called The Kids of Synanon. 294 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:33,880 Okay yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. This one is about how 295 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:38,200 how Synanon Okay or no, that's on Paramount Okay, yeah, okay, 296 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,319 okay, Well this is this one is about Sinina in general. How it 297 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,279 started. It started in like the late fifties and it got pot very popular 298 00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:51,839 in the sixties, very summer of love like uh. So they they started 299 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,519 it with helping drug addicts get off drugs and it was working better. The 300 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:00,920 guy who started it was a big believer in AA the AA mod, which 301 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:06,200 is basically addicts helping other addicts get sober, and so he started it with 302 00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:07,880 that in mind, like this is just going to be addicts are going to 303 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,799 get sober, and then they're going to help other people and we're all going 304 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,200 to live together and people are going to kick heroin on the couch in this 305 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,839 place where we're in, and we're all just going to support each other. 306 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:25,319 But also he created this therapeutic thing called the Game, where basically you just 307 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:29,000 get out all your frustrations and you can yell at people and it's about being 308 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:33,880 really honest about why you're mad, and you just get up in people's faces 309 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,960 and just vent your spleen and then it's done. And there are there are 310 00:23:38,079 --> 00:23:41,559 very There's just a couple of rules like no violence. You can't hit anybody. 311 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,720 I think that's it. You can say whatever you want, but you 312 00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:52,640 can't like physically hit anybody. Can scream and yell and anyway. People were 313 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:59,400 loving it so much so that people that weren't kicking drugs. They weren't even 314 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,359 addicts started wanting to come and do the game. So they'd come for the 315 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,160 game and then leave and go live their own lives. But then other people 316 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,920 that were an addict started wanting to live with these people, and they called 317 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:19,359 them lifestylers. So just the same way like uh, people in Israel would 318 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,359 be on a kibbutz. Yeah, they started to try to have this like 319 00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:30,200 kibbutsim thing where you would all live together and everybody would have a job to 320 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:34,359 do, and like people would come in and they would be business people and 321 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,440 you could still like live your life and do your job, but you'd bring 322 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,839 all your money in and so of course you can see where that's going. 323 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,160 Yeah. Ever so slowly it starts to get pretty cult like, right, 324 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:51,480 because this guy Charles starts to become or Chuck, starts to get power hungry 325 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:53,880 and starts to feel like he's like God because all these people are like, 326 00:24:53,920 --> 00:25:00,119 oh my God, you're amazing, Like you come up, You're God to 327 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,559 us, changed our lives and we and then he starts getting power hungry and 328 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,960 like making crazier and crazier kind of rules. Pretty soon everybody's shaving their heads. 329 00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:15,200 The children have to be He decided that it's too distracting for women to 330 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:18,680 raise their kids. So they've moved them all to this like somewhere else, 331 00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:22,960 like upstate California. And where were they living, like just Santa Monica in 332 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,720 like a house, and then they moved to another like a center. Okay, 333 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,319 you know where Casa del Mar is, Yes, the hotel they used 334 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:37,160 to be there. Oh. Interesting. Yeah, So meanwhile the kids get 335 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,440 moved to like another upstate and they don't ever see their parents, like the 336 00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:47,359 parents can visit once. Well, first they had it where the parents could 337 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,440 visit their kids all the time and still be raising them, but they're not 338 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:55,039 living with the parents. Okay, right, so somebody else's breastfeeding your kids. 339 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,119 Oh, which, by the way, that could have helped me a 340 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,960 lot. Yeah, I couldn't do it. I would have been like, 341 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:08,599 okay, thank you, appreciate you right, appreciate. But then they decided 342 00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:14,359 that that wasn't enough. It's still distracting to even have your kids around where 343 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,039 you feel like, oh, I should probably go see my kid today. 344 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Yeah, and we'll get rid of that. Just move the kids, have 345 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:22,720 them raised, you have your babies, they get raised somewhere else entirely, 346 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,039 and then they would take pictures of them to send to the parents and have 347 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:29,680 to tell the kids, hey, do you know I were taking your picture 348 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,279 because your parents want to see how you've grown. They want to see if 349 00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:37,880 you look different. Wow? The fuck wow? And some of them so 350 00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:42,359 far, I'm only there's only two episodes and they're out of four. I 351 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,240 thought it was old, so I got I was so pissed because I don't 352 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,559 know, I just said pissed, like I live in Milwaukee. I was 353 00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:55,880 so mad because I watched episode two. I'm super into it. You know, 354 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,680 I'm like, ah, finally like a cult doc. I can really 355 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,279 sing teeth and do I get to the end of the second episode, and 356 00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,759 you know, they're like and then things got dark and then and then you 357 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,680 know when it shows you and there's no no go to the next episode and 358 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,240 you're like, wait, what sucks. I thought it was old, so 359 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,720 I was like, the fuck what? And then I had to go search 360 00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:15,920 it and then I have to go look it up online and go how many 361 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,359 episodes are there? And when's the next one come out? And they're like, 362 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,480 oh, they're coming out every Yeah. I hate mondays, so I 363 00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,039 should have one waiting for me when I get home. But now I'm mad. 364 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,400 I hate when that happens. So then I was like, well, 365 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,680 let me let me watch one more culty thing, And I turned on the 366 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:37,960 Luliman. I started rewatching the Luliman leggings right documentary. God, that's a 367 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,039 good, isn't good? I love it? And you know me and my 368 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,599 memory, it felt like the first time I was like, oh, she 369 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,319 looks familiar. Oh I love this. I love when they make fun of 370 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,960 the people that they're interviewing. You know, you can tell in a little 371 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,119 weird way how they kind of like poking fun at them, like the owners 372 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,240 of Luliman, the one that started it, right, and she's just sitting 373 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,680 there staring at the camera and they're smiling, and they're meanwhile, they're talking 374 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,480 about what a ship company that she, you know, what a racket it 375 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:10,160 is that she what she's doing. So many great parts to that, like 376 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,720 when the when the leggings get mildew, so they leave the box of the 377 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,279 shipment out in the rain and they call it smelly pants or something, or 378 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,440 stinky pants. I think so. And then remember when there was when they 379 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,160 made some of the designs because they were just rushing out the designs. Some 380 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,000 of the designs just looked like there was like a penis on because it was 381 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:34,279 bananas, right, there were several ones. And then some of them just 382 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,160 looked like there was literally a vagina on the leggings because it was a flower. 383 00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:45,920 But the way it was was like no quality control whatsoever. Right, 384 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,839 Yeah, yeah, that's that. That's such a good documentary. Yeah, 385 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,559 what have I What did I watch? Have you guys been watching? There's 386 00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:57,359 this new show on net. Well, I watched Okay, I watched on 387 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:03,839 Netflix, the Antisocial Network. Did you see that? No? Oh, 388 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,519 that's good. It's about like how two chan, four chan, eight chan. 389 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,799 I have all started. Oh it's good, it's John would like that. 390 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:17,640 Yeah, that's on Netflix. It gave me nightmares because I fell asleep 391 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,119 and then I'm listening to it and I don't know, and then but then 392 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,000 I finished it. I watched that, and then I watched What Jennifer Did, 393 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:32,880 which is another Oh. I So I saw that and I was like, 394 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:38,079 m it looked like it might be scary. No, no, it's 395 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:44,480 a true crime. She killed her parents, right, yeah, spoiler alert, 396 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,839 But she didn't do it. She didn't do it, she hired she 397 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,680 hired somebody to do it. Oh yeah, I don't think it's a spoiler 398 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,240 alert because it's literally in the appect, it's in the description of what it 399 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,000 is. It's basically that she gets arrested for killing her Yeah. So there's 400 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,039 a lot of like, you know, the thing that we like the most 401 00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:07,519 is the interrogation video. Yes, so there's a lot of that of her 402 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,880 trying to get her you know, like she's saying that she so she called 403 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,759 nine one one and she was like, help, help, My hands are 404 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,960 tied behind my back. I'm tied up with my hands tied behind my back. 405 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:22,440 And the guy in the video, he's like, so okay. He's 406 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,240 trying to be really delicate because she just lost her parents, and he's like, 407 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,799 but like, last question, how did you call nine one one with 408 00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:33,759 your hands tied behind your back? And she's like, oh um hmm. 409 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,119 She's like, why I was tied with my aunt with my hands. I 410 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:42,680 just pulled it out of my waistband and called. And then he goes, 411 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,920 okay, he goes, why don't you take your sweater off and show me 412 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,359 how you did it? Show me how you did it. Let's pretend he 413 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,319 goes, this is your phone. Here's your phone, and he's like where 414 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:56,079 where was it? And she goes, tucked in my waist, my waistband. 415 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,359 He goes, okay, tuck it in your waistband where it was? 416 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,920 She puts it in her back pocket or whatever, and then he's like, 417 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,359 okay, so your hands are tied where behind my back like this, and 418 00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:08,880 she goes. He goes, okay, let me see if you can call 419 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,799 nine one one. So she kind of does it. She pulls it out 420 00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,200 and she dials nine to one one like she does it like that, and 421 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,079 she's but her hands are down by her waist right, and he goes, 422 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:23,920 how did you hear the operator? She's like oh, and I'm thinking too, 423 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200 like, oh, good question. Oh she's fucked. And she's like, 424 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,119 I turned up the volume. I could hear. I would have said 425 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:34,720 put it on speaker, right, but she didn't think that. She was 426 00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,319 like fast on her feet. She's like, I turned up the volume. 427 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:40,880 And he's like, oh, you turned up the volume so you could hear 428 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,920 with all that commotion going And she's like, yeah, well, I was 429 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,960 at the top of the stairs and all the commotion was downstairs, but I 430 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,200 was at the top where it was quieter, like this poor girl, like 431 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,839 this not poor girl, but like she was like like coming on them. 432 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,480 So that's what made it such a dead doc is because it was a lot 433 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:02,039 of interrogation vide. Yeah, right, and then you could just see her 434 00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:07,000 starting to crack. And then I watched the Newest twenty twenty in dateline from 435 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:13,720 Friday, well not the dateline, the twenty twenty from talk about mean girls. 436 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:17,000 That was a story I never heard of as a teenager who in high 437 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,960 school at sixteen, her two friends killed her. Oh you don't know that 438 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:24,759 story. No, that's the there's a whole documentary about it called The Three. 439 00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:30,039 Yeah, it's on a podcast. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's 440 00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:35,720 a famous story. That's terrible. It was terrible. Yeah, yeah. 441 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:42,440 I remember. Back when we were really into our true crime there was this 442 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:50,000 there was this episode of a show that talked about this how this famous interrogation 443 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,240 process they came up with this way to interrogate. It has to do with 444 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:57,480 good cop, bad cop, but it was like a total psychological thing and 445 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,960 they got this guy. Do you remember this was from Canada because there was 446 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:07,359 a YouTube video of it. But they they showed like from beginning to end, 447 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,599 there's hours of footage of this guy who murdered this woman and he was 448 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,400 kind of stalking her right and he at first was like absolutely not, I 449 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:21,880 didn't do it, and he was like really slick, and they just how 450 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,039 they wore him down and they just kept asking him questions and how eventually they 451 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:30,319 got him and it was a full on technique. There's a tall technique, 452 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,640 the read technique, I think is well it was it was called well, 453 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,279 there's one technique called the read technique. I don't know if it stands for 454 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:38,960 something. Yeah, I think it was named after somebody. The guy who 455 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,119 came up right right right, and it was wild to watch it go work. 456 00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:50,240 Watched the guy go from not giving up any information to completely confessing right 457 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,759 right to how it went and I want to find this. Yeah. They 458 00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:59,359 were talking about that good on the twenty twenty. They were talking about how 459 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,839 they the girl, the one teenage girl, like she just couldn't take it 460 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:08,159 anymore and she broke down and finally, like you know, they they broke 461 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:12,920 her but eventually and then she confessed. The other chick was never going to 462 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,880 confess like she was just stoic the whole time. It's amazing to me how 463 00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:24,800 people if if okay, how do I put this, How some crimes can 464 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,119 just remain not unsolved, maybe you know who did it, but unprovable, 465 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:35,519 right, not a good court case if the person just refuses to ever confess 466 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,079 and that's all they have, right, Like, it just makes me think 467 00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:43,800 if I ever commit a serious crime, to just keep denying it, yeah, 468 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,039 because at some point you're defense. It seems like the defense can just 469 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:51,039 be like, well, nope, there's God, there's there. You can't 470 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,159 if you can't prove it beyond a shadow. If you don't have DNA and 471 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,000 you don't have whatever, and you don't have a confession, then you don't 472 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,480 have a case, right, can't prove it, right, even if it 473 00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:04,679 seems really fucking obvious. Yeah, you know, even if you've done fucked 474 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,400 up. Yeah, yeah, made some big, glaring mistakes, right, 475 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:12,840 Like they still can't really get Yeah, Yeah, that's true. That's what 476 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,519 that was going on in the twenty twenty case that I was watching. Yeah, 477 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:22,280 because they didn't have even though one girl confessed, they still needed the 478 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,880 other one. They needed proof on the other one because she was lying about 479 00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:30,199 the crime all this time, that she could be lying about her confession, 480 00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:35,119 so they truly had to wear They had to wear a wire to try and 481 00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:37,360 get the other girl, and the other girl would budge, wouldn't say anything, 482 00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:43,960 and then they got the DNA from the car like then they yes, 483 00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:49,800 So yeah, it's crazy, but it is also crazy how sometimes you'll be 484 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,480 listening to something. I'll be listening to like a dateline or whatever, and 485 00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:54,320 I'm like, oh, okay, cause you know, we've talked about this 486 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,280 before. I'm always like whatever they show me, whatever person they're talking to, 487 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,159 I'm like, oh, yeah, like that guy for it, you 488 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,639 know. And then I'm like, oh yeah, I'm convinced, yeah he 489 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,559 did it, you know. And then it turns out to be somebody totally 490 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,360 different. And sometimes I'm like, damn, I'm glad I wasn't on the 491 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,960 jury because I would have convicted the first guy just based on or you know, 492 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:20,039 the person confesses and then you find out later and you're like, well, 493 00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,199 they confess, why are we why are they still walking around? Put 494 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,760 him in jail? I get so mad. And then you find out, 495 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,360 oh no, that was actually a false confession. And then there's the real 496 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:34,880 person who did it. You're like, what, we'd be terrible detectives. 497 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,719 I know, But Quints. I love Quinn, Yes, because you know, 498 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,840 when I after my stay in Florida, I did not know that quint 499 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:52,119 has household items as well, like throw blankets and sheets. They have like 500 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:58,800 these really pretty faux for throw blankets. Oh yeah, that are really like 501 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,679 gorgeous that I bought for the house that we stayed at in Florida as a 502 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:08,880 thank you. Yes, yes, and for very reasonable priced, like just 503 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,880 like their Mongolian cashmere one or percent Mongolian cashmere sweaters that are going for fifty 504 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:21,519 bucks, organic cotton sweaters, washable silk tops, timeless fourteen carrot gold jewelry. 505 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,920 That's all at Quince. 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It's starring guy named 524 00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:54,119 Walton Walton Goggins. I love Walton Goggins. He's from The Shield. Yep, 525 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,280 he's amazing. He's one of my favorite actors. He's amazing. And 526 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,519 from that starring in it, and he plays this really kind of creepy character 527 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:05,119 in it, and it's about, you know, essentially, there's a nuclear 528 00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:08,079 war, so you know, bombs go off in Los Angeles, nuclear fallout 529 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,360 two hundred years later, there's like the society that lives up on the surface. 530 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,480 They're all you know, criminals and you know killers, and then there's 531 00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:22,199 another group of people that live in like bunkers, like shelters, and so 532 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,199 it's they're kind of going back and forth on that, and it's really good 533 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,159 so far. I'm like eight episodes. I'm like five in and I'm really 534 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,559 liking that. So that's what. Okay, that's good, I am. 535 00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:36,880 I guess this is going with Netflix as a joke time a year, like 536 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,920 with the comedy festivals. But there's this Netflix series called Baby Reindeer. Have 537 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,239 you seen it? No? It's pretty freaking funny, it is. It 538 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,119 was cracking me up. I was watching it last night as I was falling 539 00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:54,039 asleep, and I found myself really like interested. This is like it takes, 540 00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:58,280 It's got a lot of it's it's in the UK, so it's got 541 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,840 that British humor kind of thing. But it's this comedian. He's a struggling 542 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,559 comedian and he's doing stand up but he works as a bartender at a pub 543 00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:15,760 in the UK and in in in London, and in walks you know this 544 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:21,920 very you know, heavy set woman and she sits you know, she's in 545 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,119 her forties and she sits at the bar and she's kind of walks in and 546 00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,840 she like in the first scene, she's like, you know, she could 547 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,159 tell she's distraught and she's upset, and he's kind of narrating it. He's 548 00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:36,199 like, you know, you ever feel sorry for somebody you'd never met them, 549 00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:39,000 but this, it's this nagging like sorrow you feel for them. And 550 00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:43,159 so she sits there and he's like, can I get you something to drink? 551 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,079 She's like, I'm just having the worst day. And he's like, 552 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,639 well I can you know, do you want to drink? She goes, 553 00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:51,400 I can't afford it, and he goes, okay, he goes not even 554 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,280 a cup of tea and she's like no, and she's like looking down and 555 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,079 he's like, all right, how about it. How about the cup of 556 00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:00,039 teas on me? And she looks up at him and she's just like in 557 00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:05,800 love. Like so she's a stalker. Oh no, she stalks him, 558 00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:12,000 and he's just like this leaguer like comic who's like, what the and like 559 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,920 she's showing up at his comedy shows and she's the only one. He's like 560 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,880 making jokes and nobody's laughing, and she's laughing, like rollicking in the corner, 561 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000 laughing her ass of and he's just like, I can't take my mom 562 00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:30,280 anywhere. It's just it's a funny. It seems really funny. It's called 563 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,679 Baby Reindeer because she's like, and it's based on a true story. Really, 564 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,480 yes, it's a truth. It is a true story. And she 565 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:44,559 says and they use her real her real text messages. Oh my god. 566 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,440 She texts him and she was like, I was praying for somebody not like 567 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,679 she sounds southern. I can't do it English. I was praying to meet 568 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,039 somebody like you. I just wanted to meet a guy that looks just just 569 00:41:54,079 --> 00:42:00,400 so sweet, like a little baby Reindeer. He does look like a baby. 570 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,880 That's so funny. Yeah, it's one of those shows. So I 571 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,239 was like really into it, and I can't wait to watch it tonight, 572 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,800 Like when I get home, all right, I'll watch that. That's good 573 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,159 to me. Yeah, I think you'll like it. It's really like just 574 00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:19,760 witty, dry sense of humor, you know. But he's like really like 575 00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:24,719 afraid for his life, you know, because she's a convicted stalker. Oh 576 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,559 oh yeah, he finds that out. I feel like, you know, 577 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,519 I come away sometimes from our Friday show with just like all these too many 578 00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:39,239 shows to watch. But you know what I really need is a new podcast. 579 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:45,760 Oh really, have you been listening to anything? No? No, 580 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:52,559 Kaylin, mostly just Howard Stern. Yeah. So you guys pay like the 581 00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,679 extra one hundred dollars a year to be able to listen to Howard Stearn. 582 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,239 No. You know what Jody told me to do is you can serious XM 583 00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,719 and go, I want to cancel. I don't want to pay anymore, 584 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,400 and you can haggle with them. And I did that, and I said, 585 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,960 I don't want to pay anymore. I was paying for in my car. 586 00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:12,400 I don't need it in my car. I have it on my app. 587 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,039 I can just listen to it on my app. I don't need da 588 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,199 da da da da. And I got it down to like, I don't 589 00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:22,639 know, I pay like twenty five bucks a month or something. Jody got 590 00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:27,360 it down to like twelve months. That seems high. That's twenty five a 591 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,079 month is high? Oh yeah, Oh well I don't know. Jody's got 592 00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:35,719 it down to like ten dollars a month. Yeah no, I think. 593 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,280 Yeah, you can, but you can handle. You can haggle with them, 594 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,239 okay. But I had it because we were paying a lot more because 595 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,039 I had it in my car at home. Two other cars we had it 596 00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:49,079 in, so I had it up. It was pretty high for us. 597 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,639 Yeah, I have it in one car and then the other car. It 598 00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,639 didn't it wasn't even really available. But since we already have it, we 599 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,719 just play it. I just play it on the app in my car. 600 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,360 I just play it on my phone right off my phone to my car. 601 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,920 Yeah yeah, but it's always that extra step that I just wish I could 602 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,880 just I know, on the radio, and it's but I don't have Howard 603 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:15,280 Stern. You don't know, because it was when I got serious. It 604 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:21,840 was like an extra one hundred dollars from Stern. All you can call them, 605 00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,039 yeah and try and get it down. He's pretty rich still, huh, 606 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,559 I would say, probably because he got re upped, because because remember 607 00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:34,679 when he left Terrestrial radio and everybody was like, Oh my god, like 608 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,280 he's walking away, and who's gonna listen, and who's gonna do this new 609 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:44,760 fangled y XFM thing satellite radio satellite radio? And then people did, I 610 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,320 guess enough people, because then I think his original contract that he got from 611 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,400 Serio six and was five hundred million dollars for five years, and he's just 612 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:58,119 been re upping five years ever since then. That was back in what like 613 00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,800 twenty ten or something, maybe a little earlier, but so he's just been 614 00:45:01,039 --> 00:45:04,119 I guess, re upping his contract ever. So I don't know if he's 615 00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:07,119 still making He made XFM what it is. I mean he made serious Oh 616 00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:10,519 he absolutely did. Yeah, I mean they don't. They wouldn't have been 617 00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:15,039 a thing without him. I don't think. Well, he's still like broadcasts 618 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:19,000 from his house mostly, like he still isn't going in and broadcasting from the 619 00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:22,119 serious buildings. So I don't know if they're still paying him that much money 620 00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:23,440 to just do it all from do it all from home, I know, 621 00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:28,360 but dropped down to three days a week, and he takes that's the thing, 622 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,559 that's that's why that sucks. And he takes a lot of vacation time 623 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:35,480 too. Yeah, he's barely. 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