WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:16.280 Be bab it's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this from March fourteenth, 2 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:19.359 twenty to twenty four I think that date's right for the next hour or 3 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:22.039 so. Let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess 4 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.199 Mornings Live with me Jeff Grubb. Today we got the official dates for Summer 5 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:30.719 Game Fest and just how important is GTA six to the video game industry. 6 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:35.079 But first, please join me and welcoming today's co host of Game Mess Mornings. 7 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:38.799 It's Jana Choa. Everybody, Jan, how are you doing. I'm 8 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:43.119 doing great. I've put this on my notion calendar. I'm blocked out. 9 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.119 Bricked up baby, that's what that means, right, I think that's what 10 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:49.640 bricked up needs. That's what how It's always the way I've used it, 11 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.520 and I've been thrown out of many places for using it that way. I 12 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.439 don't get it. Jan. When you yeah, you have the templates, 13 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.200 could you share me the one you think is the most useful. If that's 14 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.520 the thing, it's great to do. I'm still drowning in them. But 15 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.560 I'll do that. Yeah, I'll do that. I don't I'll do that, 16 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:11.680 and then well we'll be vaguely organized together, vaguely organized. See, 17 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.159 I never am able to maintain the momentum with any of these efforts. They 18 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.840 always just kind of follow the wayside. So it's like having a daily show 19 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:25.599 is like about as much organization as I can handle. Like, just doing 20 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:29.319 this, we can be accountability buddies. Okay, I mean, if you 21 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:33.760 want to go down that road, we can. I okay, Greb. 22 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:37.680 I was showing my partner my my Notion calendar, And for folks that don't 23 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:42.200 know, Notion is like a planning journaling website app that goes through your phone 24 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:47.200 and your computer whatever. H She looked at my calendar and then she looked 25 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.200 at me, and then she looked at the calendar again, and she looked 26 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:51.879 at me, and she was like, are you sure you did this? 27 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:53.879 Something else to do this? Oh? Okay, all right, well that's 28 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:59.359 something like jerk. I did put putting the dishes on my calendar. I 29 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:04.439 ripped it off. I did do the thing last night where it's like we're 30 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:08.319 trying to get the kids to bed and stuff's like dishes. I'm like okay, 31 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:10.680 and I'm like, no, I'm not gonna just do the dishes. 32 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.479 I've been like I didn't clean the house last weekend, and I've felt like 33 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.680 shit since then. So I just stayed up to like one am cleaning the 34 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:22.520 house downstairs. So the whole whole first floor is now good to go. 35 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:24.960 And I'm feeling I'm feeling I got a little bit of skip of my step 36 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:29.599 now because of it. So that was something. And I don't know, 37 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:31.960 I think if I tried to put that in the calendar of like, hey, 38 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:38.520 this is the cleaning block. That sounds nice, That sounds good. 39 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:42.439 All right. I will develop a template and I will share it with you, 40 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:44.840 and I'll share with the Giant Bomb audience, and I'll just have like 41 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:47.560 a to do list on one side, all right, and we wait out 42 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:54.759 the tasks to equate to points, okay, and then we tally up the 43 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:58.199 points either at the end of the day or the end of the week, 44 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.439 and see who has the most points. Okay, I'm down. And then 45 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:06.960 whoever wins the most weeks in a month, someone will buy them a pizza. 46 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:08.759 Yeah, they get to play as Mace Windu in Star Wars Battlefront two. 47 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:13.199 They get first stph I want to do that. Yeah, that sounds 48 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:16.520 pretty fun to me. Let's explain what we do here most weekdays, I, 49 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:21.000 Jeff Greb, will help peace your gaming life back together. That includes 50 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.879 breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting. For all these 51 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:27.800 topics, I'll get the input of a bona fide expert who will make me 52 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:31.159 look smart. If you were watching live on twitch welcome, You can always 53 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:35.879 listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching for game mess Warnings, 54 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:39.479 or find therss on giant bomb dot com. You can also catch the show 55 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:46.680 later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube. All right, we 56 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.280 have a lot to get into, so let's start the morning mess with US 57 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.639 games spending could be down ten percent this year. This is from Andy Robinson 58 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:59.280 at VGC. US consumer spending on games could decline by ten percent this year, 59 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:05.560 according to market research firm Circana Sircana. Sircana analyst Matpisktella told Games Industry 60 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:10.400 DOZ that this figure was in the pessimistic range of what could play out in 61 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:14.680 the US market in twenty twenty four, but predicted a tough nine months ahead. 62 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.680 Even if spend is on the more positive end of the spectrum right now, 63 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:21.720 my most optimistic outlook is down two percent piscatell has said, if you 64 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:26.079 start looking a little bit on the more pessimistic side, you're looking at down 65 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:30.120 about ten percent. If things really go sideways, you're looking a little bit 66 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.480 more than that. There's so much uncertainty when you look at the sales data 67 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:38.079 or look to project this year. There's uncertainty around the hardware. There's uncertainty 68 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:44.519 about the content. Who the hell's making the games, says Matt Piscatel. 69 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:46.920 Over there, he does also mention GTA six, which is now not coming 70 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:49.439 out till twenty twenty five. You know, there was always the chance that 71 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:55.800 could come out this year. He also mentioned switch to moving internally from this 72 00:04:55.879 --> 00:05:00.560 year to next year. There are mitigating circumstances that cause people be like, 73 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:01.920 Eh, you know the things that we're gonna be, these big pillars we're 74 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:06.480 gonna hold up the industry, they're not happening. So then that's where that 75 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:10.879 uncertainty comes in. And we're like, but overall, jam like, we 76 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:15.120 we know that this uncertainty, uncertainty is like much bigger than just a couple 77 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:17.519 of things not coming out this year. It really is like, what is 78 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.959 the state of making these big games? And I'm starting I'm leaning more and 79 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:25.839 more towards this is this is just a big shift. This is gonna be 80 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:29.800 a major shift, and I I'm not gonna be like pessimistic like I was 81 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:32.519 with mobile gaming and like the twenty twelve, like twenty sixteen, where it's 82 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:36.319 like it's just these games and only these games can succeed. I think that's 83 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:41.399 how I feel some of the time right now, where it's just Fortnite's Minecraft, 84 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.160 it's a handful of other things, and you know, Matt calls some 85 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:46.800 black hole games. Everything gets sucked into the black hole of these games, 86 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:51.600 and I think there is definitely like we have to recognize, yes, that 87 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:56.720 is taking up all this time. But one thing with the like hardcore gaming, 88 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:00.000 is it always changes. It's never the same for that long and there 89 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.839 will be something new and shiny that will attract people in a couple of years. 90 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:09.399 As long as these companies keep making games, or someone keeps making games. 91 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:13.079 I suppose it does have to be any of these companies. The twenty 92 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:15.480 twenty four is going to be rough, right, Yeah, you know we 93 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:19.079 say the twenty twenty four is going to be rough. Yet the beginning of 94 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:23.199 like these first three months into twenty twenty four, I feel like has been 95 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:27.480 absolutely back to back to back bangers left and right, right and uh, 96 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.319 greb, sorry I didn't read the story yet, But so this is down 97 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:35.639 ten percent from last year, which is still kind of recovering off of whatever 98 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:40.879 inflated numbers we got because of like peak pandemic COVID years. Right, yeah, 99 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:43.759 yeah, So this would be Circana, which would be the NPD. 100 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.439 So it's the United States for one, and it would be I'm trying to 101 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:50.800 remember. I think spending in twenty twenty three was up about one to one 102 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:55.639 and a half percent in the United States from the previous year. Now, 103 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.120 of course, if you went once you factor in inflation, that's a little 104 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.160 bit, that's down a little bit, But overall that's like, yeah, 105 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:02.839 you know, it's maintaining a lot of the growth that came out of twenty 106 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:06.680 twenty two, which I think was still up over twenty twenty one, which 107 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:11.759 was up way over twenty twenty, which was up way over twenty nineteen. 108 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:16.399 So there is still a lot of like built in a growth that happened during 109 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.560 the pandemic. The big trouble for a lot of these companies, this was 110 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:25.240 something we'll go back to over and over again. Is they factored in continued 111 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:29.680 growth at that rate, set their businesses up on that assumption, and now 112 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.279 things are leveling off, not necessarily dropping down. They might drop down this 113 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:36.480 year, that does seem like that's really in the cards. But even before 114 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:39.879 this, but when it wasn't dropping down, they were like, uh, 115 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:44.680 we expected huge growth and we're getting three percent growth. That's not enough to 116 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:48.639 fund everything that we're putting bets on. Right. Yeah, I don't want 117 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:54.560 to also have a pessimistic outlook, but you know, I looking at those 118 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:59.600 back to back to back bangers, those audiences aren't like the wider general gaming 119 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:03.480 audience is. For as much as like Infinite Wealth sold really well, Corn 120 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:09.720 Overlord is selling really well as well. I don't think you're regular gamer visiting 121 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:15.720 Target Walmart for physical releases is going to see that and be inclined to go 122 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:20.800 pick it up, especially when the carton of eggs that they're also at Target 123 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:26.079 or Walmart for is now suddenly ten dollars. Yes, that's of course the 124 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.480 other thing here, and Matt has talked about this on Twitter this week, 125 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:33.519 where it's like people are spending way more on just daily necessities and that is 126 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.480 that is going to take away from game spending in a very noticeable way. 127 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.080 A lot of that's going to be money taken away from like, hey, 128 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:46.360 I do get on every week with my buddies and play Fortnite, and you 129 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.879 know, one of them is you know, they're still doing that every night, 130 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.120 and another one like, well, she's over here, like she's like 131 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.879 she's not playing as much, and so I'm like, maybe I won't get 132 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.919 on as frequently, and by just you know the way number work, that 133 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.000 is going to lower the opportunity for the people to want to spend money in 134 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:09.200 these games. And we're going to see that sort of filtered down. And 135 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.600 we're talking about like big games that have already made a ton of money, 136 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:18.960 not necessarily new games coming out and selling, and that's the tail that wags 137 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:22.240 the dog now or these handful of big games, and if spinning drops on 138 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.840 those, the whole industry sort of drops overall. You mentioned a lot of 139 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.080 new games are doing very well. I mean, Hell Divers too clearly is 140 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:35.399 a huge, massive blowout success. So it's like that can happen, but 141 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.679 it's not going to fill in the comparison to previous years where we've had, 142 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.480 you know, elden Ring two years ago and several big games last year, 143 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:48.559 Cleveland, Zelda and stuff. I interesting to bring up Hell Divers too, 144 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.120 and I think Matt also brings it up in the story glancing at it. 145 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.120 But like Hell Divers two in Power World kind of set the world on fire, 146 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.159 even though you know, kind of flashing the pan for Power World, 147 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.879 but Hell Divers two has had some staying growth. Those are cheaper titles as 148 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.399 well, like coming out at forty bucks a pop. So I think if 149 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.480 I was that gamer in that position of playing your weekly cod games with your 150 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:15.200 friends or Fortnite with your friends, and this is a cheaper title that you 151 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.840 can play with your friends, and like the buy in is just at forty 152 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.799 dollars, I think I'd be more willing to shell out forty dollars rather than 153 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:30.519 seventy dollars to play something like Suicide Squad or however much Skull and Bones is, 154 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.759 even though Skull and Bones they were trying to give that away for free 155 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:35.320 for a while. Yeah, I think that one's awesome. Isn't that one 156 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:39.279 also seventy It's at least sixty, right, I mean, it's a quadruple 157 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.759 A game. Quadruple Ay. That's what the quadruple A thing was all about, 158 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.879 was him defending the price of it. So, yeah, you're absolutely 159 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.519 right, Like the Matt says, hell Divers two Impowe World have done a 160 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:54.720 lot of heavy lifting earlier in the year, but were up against comparisons last 161 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:56.720 year with Hogwarts Legacy, which was a massive hit, and he didn't even 162 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:00.639 mention what you said, like Hogwarts Legacy, I think was it was at 163 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.720 least sixty was probably seventy. Again, I can't keep track of all these, 164 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:07.840 but the very least sixty. And then we have these two games that 165 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.360 are doing a lot of the heavy lifting but at forty dollars and you know, 166 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:16.399 not even necessarily across every console the way Hogwarts Legacy did. So that's 167 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.799 part of it, Like it's about comparisons. Last year had several big games. 168 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.039 Hogwarts Legacy, Legend of Zelda, Tiers of the Kingdom sold twenty million 169 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:30.080 copies in a handful of months. There was games just all throughout the year 170 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.200 that we're hitting very hard, and this year it's like, even if they 171 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.159 do hit just about as hard, it doesn't feel like we are We're going 172 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.840 to have both a Hogwarts Legacy and a Zelda like anything comparable to that this 173 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.799 year. So you know, is that really like, oh, is that 174 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.559 the industry drooping overall? Well? No, actually, yes, in a 175 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:54.799 few places it is. But it's not like again, a rushing out of 176 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.720 funds from the industry. It's not like people are losing interest overall and spending 177 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.200 money on games. They are just being a little bit more selective with where 178 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:05.039 they're putting their dollars. And the problem that goes back to once again, 179 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:11.000 these companies having astronomical projections and that gap being so huge that it's that it 180 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:16.879 has to be sort of painful for now for everyone else because they miss misallocated 181 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:20.519 their predictions. You have to think, Greb that like the frequency of these 182 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.720 games dropping, also has to play a factor into like reduce spending, because 183 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:30.879 with all of these games coming out in such close proximity, I'd have to 184 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.399 imagine I'd be pinching my pennies as well, because all right, well, 185 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:39.320 I know that this game is going to take me at least forty to sixty 186 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.919 hours to complete a main story, not even including any of the side content. 187 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.919 So that's going to last me if I'm just like casually playing a game 188 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:52.080 a couple times per week or whatever, or even trying to platinum a game 189 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.080 that's going to take me a decent chunk of time that I can save that 190 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:01.960 sixty to seventy dollars on another game in a month and a half or two 191 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:05.679 months down the line. And then it's the same pattern, especially with like 192 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.120 these big JRPG style games coming out. Yes, and I think people are 193 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:16.679 very happy to just like pick their games once they have them. Like if 194 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.720 you got everybody, if you've got everybody in on Hell Divers two, you're 195 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:22.879 not sitting around looking for the next game to come out. You are like, 196 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:26.240 hey, no, let's go back. We already spent money on this. 197 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:28.320 We're having a good time. Why mess with a good thing. I 198 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.000 think there's a time in gaming where everyone's like, hey, no, we're 199 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.960 jumping from game to game. That's what our crew does. And I think 200 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.879 this year feels like a year where no, we're very cool just playing Hell 201 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.879 Divers two and we're not doing that when everyone's busy. We're playing Bolotro and 202 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:46.159 we're playing a ton of that, and these games are selling. But I 203 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:50.720 think like the behavior of jumping from game to game and going from seventy dollars 204 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:56.159 game to seventy dollars game. I think we've already seen people not jump on 205 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:03.320 polm Stars, people not jump onto Cfteves too season two of Foam Stars Suicide 206 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.080 Squad, like it's already happened. I think if we get through this year, 207 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:09.919 we're gonna we're gonna look back and see that that was a trend that 208 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.519 continued where people were just very happy to stick with what works for them, 209 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.679 a trend that I hope continues. And you and Lex highlighted this yesterday on 210 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:22.000 game mess But I really enjoyed despite me not participating it in as much. 211 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:26.360 But I love watching the periphery of how Hell Divers two is rolling out new 212 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:31.519 content. It just feels so fresh, it's in cool. It feels like 213 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.600 you have to be playing or like you're watching along in like it feels like 214 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.559 world news popping off in the world of Hell Divers too in such a way 215 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:43.679 where like, you know, new updates roll out all the time in Fortnite, 216 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:48.519 PUBG Call of Duty, and then you know, I'll occasionally check out 217 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:50.720 Fortnite, but I don't quite care. I think I've been conditioned by like 218 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:54.440 the season's model to like all right, if I'm not buying in this season, 219 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.960 I'll wait, I'll check out next season. So far with Hell Divers 220 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.679 Too, I'm like itching like every single meeting we have of like what if 221 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:07.039 we're just playholdt like these five other things we have to do? Yep, 222 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.320 And I mean it really does come down to just they're they're combining all the 223 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:18.000 best elements of what a live service game can be and then live storytelling the 224 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:24.080 current thing where everyone's working together to establish these bug like spray things on all 225 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:28.360 these planets. Uh. And it's like at least four planets in the Bug 226 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.759 system. Uh. It is like that's such a cool idea. I mean 227 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:33.879 they did that same thing with the Mets, where it's likef you liberate this 228 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:37.080 one planet, everyone works on this one planet. We could unlock the Mets, 229 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:39.879 and they everyone unlocked it early because everyone was so excited to play it. 230 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.279 That's really neat. That's really neat. Yeah, And like you know, 231 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.759 uh we we we mentioned Hell Divers Too as like a game that you 232 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:52.200 would pick up to play with friends. But I think the way so far 233 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:58.639 in my experience in like randomly lobbying up with Randos and mostly everyone else's experience, 234 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:04.320 it's been positive, yep, surprisingly enough of like a bunch of chill 235 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:08.840 people wanting to play a un chill game and just like cooperate together, the 236 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:11.759 like the like the worst things that happened to be in that game when I 237 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:17.320 when I started up with Randos, is uh the guy that is level twenty 238 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.159 seven and you know I'm playing with seventeen and twelve, and I'm like, 239 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:25.159 I was like level seven when we died. He just went for like a 240 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:29.080 solid three minutes of just doing not his own thing. He was doing the 241 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.080 mission, but he like, let us just stay dead until like you say, 242 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:33.759 okay, well I've got everything you know, set the way I wanted 243 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.200 to. Now I'll bring you back and say, oh, I'd like to 244 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.879 play the video game I'm trying to play. But it's like that's you know, 245 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:44.200 the most extreme and and I am like at a certain point I get 246 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:47.320 it, Like I'm level seven, he's level twenty seven. Uh, I 247 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:51.559 get it to a certain extent. Uh. Up next still part of this 248 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:56.399 story. GTA six is most important game release in industry's history. According to 249 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:00.759 analysts from Hayley Williams, a game spot the games in this isn't in the 250 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.480 best shape at the moment, with cost cutting measures leading to layoffs, studio 251 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.359 closures, and game cancelations, and there are few major titles on the way 252 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:11.160 to shore up sales. In an interview with Games Industry dop is, industry 253 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:17.079 analyst Matt Piscatella has said that GTA six might end up being an incredibly important 254 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:19.920 release for the industry at large. Piscatella, who works for tracking from Sircana, 255 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.279 says twenty twenty four isn't looking great for the games industry, with overall 256 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:27.720 spend expected to be down that aforementioned two to ten percent spending. How optimistic 257 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:32.440 you are, there's so much uncertainty when you look at the sales data or 258 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.880 look to project this year. Piscatella said, there's uncertainty around hardware, as 259 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:41.319 he said previously, he does go on to talk about GTA six being the 260 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.519 thing that everyone was looking forward to holding up this year and now moving beyond 261 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:51.519 out of the fiscal year, so like after out of March of next year, 262 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:56.039 so sometime later in twenty twenty five. So it's like man that is 263 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:00.680 already begun to slip that makes it feel like even further away, and people 264 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.000 that were like, hey, survive twenty four, survive until twenty five. 265 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:07.160 That was like the mantra. It's like, well, as the switch to 266 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.640 gets pushed out, and as GTA six gets pushed out, and the excitement 267 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:15.079 around games could wane if there isn't like that big game pulling people's interest back 268 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.480 in, A lot of people are like, man, what is going to 269 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.519 happen here? How important do you think GTA six is? Though? Because 270 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:27.400 I have some thoughts here, but what's like your gut reaction? I realize 271 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:32.799 that I live in a bubble and I am a dirty hipster in the year 272 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:37.200 of twenty twenty four. I'm gonna pull a Jeff Backler and say, like, 273 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:41.119 I don't care, it's not important to me. Yeah. But when 274 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:47.359 that initial GTA six teaser trailer dropped a couple months ago, I was seeing 275 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:52.440 friends out of the woodwork that I didn't know played video games yep, reposting 276 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.559 that trailer saying oh, y'all don't know how much GTA means to me? 277 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.759 Right? And then I was thinking, like, that is an insane sentiment, 278 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:04.519 But maybe I'm the insane one. Greb. We were talking about this 279 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:10.279 on the BombCast. I believe of like a sequel not quite living up to 280 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:14.880 its predecessor, and I don't think that GTA six will fall fall under that 281 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:18.920 banner. And I'm more curious about how they will handle the transition of gt 282 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:26.960 online because I feel like GTA online has ananely huge audience that how do you 283 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:32.839 handle that pivot from five to six? Like I I'm curious is to know 284 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:36.920 what that on ramp process looks like for Rockstar. Yeah, I mean, 285 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:40.119 I think that's That's one of the things that makes it the most important, 286 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:45.920 right is that there is this juggernaut money printing factory in GTA online and they 287 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.480 need to figure out that transition of what it looks like if there is a 288 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:53.359 transition or if it's like no, here's a big update to gt online and 289 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:59.960 you can access that through GTA six. But for me, I look at 290 00:19:59.960 --> 00:20:04.680 the I look at this as Yeah, GTA six is a harbinger of what 291 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:08.799 is going to happen with the biggest games, and it'll tell us a lot 292 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:15.160 about how much like what is the ceiling here? How big and expensive can 293 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:18.160 a game be? Before it even doesn't make sense for GTA six, and 294 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:22.960 I think we're probably gonna find GTA six is gonna be fine. Rock Star 295 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:26.960 is going to make their money here. But that game's gonna come out, 296 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.119 and I think a lot of other publishers and developers are going to look at 297 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:30.799 it and be like, there's no world in which we can do that. 298 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.960 I think that's already happened with like Red Dead Redemption two, where a lot 299 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:38.920 of developers publishers look at that and be like, so much work went into 300 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:45.119 the details of that game that it is beyond it's incomprehensible how much money would 301 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:47.920 take for us to do something like that. We already like we don't have 302 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.960 necessarily the skill or the desire to do those things. If we had to 303 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:55.559 keep up with the Joneses and the Joneses being rock Star, that would be 304 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:59.519 like a non starter. But it's like, I think GT six is the 305 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:03.920 most important for this old guard of making games in a certain way, and 306 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.640 I think it is going to kind of like be like, hey, this 307 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.480 is yeah, this is what it can do. But in the meantime, 308 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:12.079 I think there will be this whole other torrent of things off to the side 309 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:17.079 happen in Steam, Early Access and frankly Mobile and a bunch of other places 310 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.960 where it's like, yeah, GTA six is important, but the industry has 311 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:25.319 grown and changed and shifted so much that it's only so important to a certain 312 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:30.160 segment. Now. Yeah, it feels weird kind of putting it or putting 313 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:34.559 it that way, because now I'm thinking the industry is in such a disarray 314 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:38.319 that I don't think any other studio, maybe Sony, could try and pull 315 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:44.519 off something to the the caliber that GTA six is going to be even red 316 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:51.160 dead redemption too, that is there even a possibility grub that like a GTA 317 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:56.200 seven is in the like in the future at all, because like this is 318 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:02.599 an expensive game that is taken forever ground, and even we know rock Stary 319 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:04.440 is going to make their money back, They're going to continue to make their 320 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:12.200 money back with even GTA five still helping fund GTA six. But like Grand 321 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:18.039 Theft Auto seven just seems like an imaginary thing. It doesn't feel like a 322 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:21.400 real thing that will ever exist, because like this may be the last of 323 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:25.200 like you said, those old Guard games. This is like a Scorsese flick. 324 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:29.960 Yeah, yeah, and I agree, I think that GTA six will 325 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.000 come out, and I legit believe it'll be closer to twenty years before we 326 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:38.160 get GTA seven. Like, oh, I really believe that, unless you 327 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:41.759 know, they completely change the way that that model works, where it's like, 328 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:45.160 oh no, here's GTA seven and it's something you go by, but 329 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:51.400 it feeds into this larger connected GTA universe that it mostly lives online. They 330 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:55.440 could do something like that, but their efforts have been have been better spent 331 00:22:55.839 --> 00:23:00.680 getting more people into GTA online because that makes them more consistent money over time. 332 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:04.319 So I think that they are setting this game up to last for a 333 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:08.480 very long time. GTA five already was ten years, right, I mean 334 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:14.759 we're longer than that eleven years now in that range, I think eleven years, 335 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.319 So yeah, at least fifteen years. I'm really I really think that's 336 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:26.160 very likely for between GGA six and GTA seven moving on here around anymore. 337 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:29.039 I know that I'm like I was, like I was thinking in those terms, 338 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:33.759 like maybe I see GTA seven, but the idea of a GTAA is 339 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:40.200 impossible. There's no way. Summer Game Fest is set to start June seventh. 340 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:44.240 This is for Ben Lyons at Game Reactor. Jeff Keeley has officially announced 341 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:48.000 the date and time for when Summer Game Fest will be airing its live showcase 342 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.640 this year. The major conference will be held at YouTube Theater once again in 343 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:56.319 Los Angeles and will be set for June seventh, twenty twenty four at I 344 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.680 think this is like two pm Pacific time. I think is what this is 345 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.359 around there they have this story says twenty two hundred BST and twenty three hundred 346 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:08.480 ceest. Heally has stated that the event will be approximately two hours long, 347 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:11.720 have a live audience, and of course be streamed around the world on a 348 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:17.079 variety of platforms. Yeah, it always felt like this is around when it 349 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:21.599 would happen. It's confirmed. How are you feeling about the summer video game 350 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:26.720 announcement season? Jan Yeah, let's go do it. I'm tired already. 351 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:32.000 Yep, gonna happen. So listen, we know Microsoft said that they will 352 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:36.200 we would have something in that timeframe. They've already confirmed that. When they 353 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:41.319 were clolling all the concerns about a couple of games going to PlayStation and Switch, 354 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.559 They're like, yeah, we will have our event in June. I 355 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:47.880 think is how they phrase that. So I think around this same time. 356 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:49.960 We could expect that, but I'm you know, I'm not going to be 357 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:55.599 shocked if EA and Take two and all these companies have something around this time. 358 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:59.279 Sony could have something, Nintendo could have a direct. It could feel 359 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:04.559 like a pretty robust announcement season because all these companies still have like laying people 360 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.759 off, like it's signified that, like, hey, they aren't gonna make 361 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.079 a lot of games because it's true, and they're going to pay for that 362 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:14.079 in a couple of years. But I think they're thinking so short term. 363 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.559 The way that they look at it is we have so many games about to 364 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.799 come out because so much stuff got delayed, and our slates are so full, 365 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.119 which is something if you watch that Danny O Dwyer video about trying to 366 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.240 get published something he heard a lot from publishers when he was trying to get 367 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:30.640 his little game some funding, and it was like, you know, our 368 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.400 slate ist full, Our slate ist full. And I think that these companies 369 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:34.119 are like, well, no, we have so many games coming out, 370 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.720 and so I think they will have stuff to announce, even though it'll be 371 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.599 I think it's going to feel a little strange coming off all these layoffs and 372 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.039 now it's like, now here, look at buy all our fucking games. 373 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.440 It's going to feel a little weird. But I expect most of these companies 374 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.880 to have big events over the summer. Yeah, I for whatever reason. 375 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:57.880 I mean it's it's justified that I'm expecting the there to be a slight uncomfortable 376 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:03.000 vibe in the room of it's great that we're all here to go, it's 377 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:07.319 great that games are coming out. It's bad everything else. Yeah, because 378 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.039 I mean, you know what is Summer Games Fest? It is a in 379 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.440 what was E three? Before that it like well E three was like a 380 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.720 show where people could connect and new business. Summer Game Festival is just raw 381 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:22.200 commercialism. It is just raw. We are here to sell these corporations video 382 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:27.240 games to the consumer. That is the reason the whole thing exists. And 383 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:32.200 so it's a show not really even for the people who make the games. 384 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:34.240 You know, he has the Game Awards for that ostensibly. Yeah, that 385 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:38.200 also turns into this is about selling games to the consumer. So that's like 386 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.480 some of the that's why where people have some criticism there. But whatever, 387 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:47.839 this show just is upfront and honest about No, this is for the CEOs 388 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.440 trying to find a place to market their games, and so the end I 389 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.279 think that's going to make the vibes be a little bit weird as well. 390 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:57.720 But you know, at the same time, I like to get excited about 391 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.640 new new video games people have they want to sell video games to me, 392 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.200 I'll pay attention to a certain extent, But twenty twenty four is going to 393 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:11.039 continue to be a situation where it is going to be frustrating to have them 394 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.720 listen to these companies market to us when they are not taking care of the 395 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:18.440 people who actually made these studio games. I do think you're right, though, 396 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.319 that this will be a It feels like this is going to be a 397 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:29.000 bigger SGF, not only because of like all these companies have several games in 398 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.839 their back pocket that they've been waiting to release trailers for release. Hype four 399 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.759 just get them out the door, get them off of their release slate. 400 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:42.759 With summer game fests in general has also been growing year by year. Last 401 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.920 year it was already double the size it was from the initial year, And 402 00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:52.640 I can only imagine like Keely is looking at a blueprint or maps of downtown 403 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.640 LA and thinking, like, all right, let's take over that building too, 404 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:02.319 and I believe and the whole thing is just going to continue to get 405 00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:07.839 bigger despite the industry hurting. Those marketing dollars got to go somewhere grub right, 406 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.319 Yeah, I think that these companies will still have a pretty significant marketing 407 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.319 budget. That's you know, that is a huge cost for them, But 408 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:19.039 I think they I think they find that the summer game Fest and the Kili 409 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:23.240 stuff is pretty cost effective. It does cost a lot of money to get 410 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.720 a showcase in there in one of his shows, like a lot of money. 411 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:33.119 But when I talk to like pr people who whose business is hey, 412 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.279 get get attention to this game, They're like, it's worth it. It's 413 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.640 like it gets it gets enough eyeballs on it. There are you know, 414 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.319 often millions of people watching live, millions of people watch it later. It 415 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.960 does drive the news. So yeah, I think that you're right though, 416 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.400 marketing dollars, dollars will still go into it, and it's got to go 417 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:59.480 somewhere. So because it ain't coming to me, that's for sure. What 418 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.640 what like do you think that a like Microsoft expect to be like a full 419 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.680 E three thing. I think that they set those expectations, so I their 420 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.000 showcase and they've done this the last several years should be a big one. 421 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.680 What do you think the scale of the Nintendo and Sony shows are likely to 422 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:18.400 be. I don't know. Yah, can we take a quick break. 423 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:19.640 I gotta get a kid off the bus. We'll be right back, everybody. 424 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:26.119 I would be scatting, all right, jan I was asking you how 425 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.720 what scale you expect from Nintendo and Sony for their press conferences at the summer 426 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.319 Game Fest season. You know, if they even happen. There is no 427 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.400 guarantee that they do happen. I think it's probably likely just based on although 428 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.960 I feel like I said this last year with Sony, Sony doesn't have a 429 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:42.400 ton of stuff, and now it so they you know, they probably should 430 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:47.119 and they probably will. And then Nintendo feels like they should set stuff up 431 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.160 for the second half of this year, even if they're not ready to talk 432 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.880 about the switch to quite yet. What do you think I feel like Nintendo 433 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:59.200 has to be ready or move themselves into a position to start laying the groundwork 434 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:04.640 for you switch to get those consumers ready to spend their dollars there. Don't 435 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.559 I don't think they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by announcing it and still 436 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:14.519 planning on releasing big ish titles, medium ish titles later in the fall, 437 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.559 in winter months. And you know, we've said this multiple times. I 438 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.599 feel like, just treat the rest of this year as a victory lab for 439 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:23.920 Nintendo. Just fill out the rest of your just release the rest of those 440 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:29.440 games, but make sure you leave clear enough of a runway for whatever the 441 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:32.519 switch to is going to look like. I'm so ready for that thing to 442 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:34.200 be announced in a name to be announced, so we stop calling it the 443 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:40.319 switch to or super Bowl, the switch to. Well, you know, 444 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.960 all right, let's do that. We could. We said it here first. 445 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:49.440 Tony is the bigger outlier though for me, Grub, I don't know 446 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:55.480 what they're going to do because I feel like they've canceled so many projects and 447 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.119 everything that they've announced over the last couple of years is like we're working on 448 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.359 like twelve games, does a life service games, We're working on like so 449 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:07.960 many things. Yet we've heard several projects get canceled, that Spider Man one, 450 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:14.160 most recently just getting canned at the uncharted multiplayer stuff, several a lot 451 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.680 of people getting laid off of laid off from PlayStation so I don't know what 452 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.039 they have, like Marathon, Yeah, Marathon's ways off. Yeah that's a 453 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.440 ways off. So yeah, that's that's a weird one because it's like they 454 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.519 have to get Destiny back into a decent place before they can even really I 455 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:37.200 think focus all in on Marathon. They probably will have some announcements, but 456 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.720 like they their partnership games like Rise of ronin which a first party game, 457 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.880 but like also then like Final Fantasy, that stuff is out, they will 458 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.240 probably have a couple more of those in their pocket. I just how many 459 00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:55.759 other big games is a company like Square Inix a frequent partner actually working on, 460 00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.400 especially after like twenty twenty two where they had a ton of games that 461 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.000 didn't quite hit and so they were like pulling back from that strategy a little 462 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:07.440 bit. I and you know, and Sony has told us flat out this 463 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:14.880 fiscal year up through March of twenty twenty five, no sequels to establish Triple 464 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.519 A franchises, So we know, like the one that was most likely would 465 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.160 speculate his Ghost of Sushima be like, oh, if they had, that 466 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.359 would definitely justify a showcase. So I think when we're talking about the scale 467 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:29.799 of these shows, if Sony has something. I think it's probably a state 468 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.319 of Play, and then we do get something like that Astro game announced in 469 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:38.519 there. Now they do also have allegedly and you know, and based on 470 00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:45.319 good reporting, a PlayStation five Pro that should launch this year. How do 471 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:46.680 you launch that without having a bunch of games to go along with it. 472 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:51.480 I don't necessarily know, but you know, the audience that wants a PS 473 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.519 five Pro will just show up and buy a PS five Pro, especially in 474 00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:59.279 this first holiday, so they that's probably not going to stop them. And 475 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:00.599 that's the kind of thing that could show up in a showcase. It could 476 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:04.960 maybe justify a showcase if they have a couple of games ready to go with 477 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:06.519 it. But I don't. I don't know, man, You're right, 478 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:08.400 it's really hard to guess what it could be. I mean, we were 479 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:14.680 pleasantly surprised with Valhalla dropping out of nowhere, and I'm trying to think, 480 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.160 like, all right, what other PlayStation games have not already made its way 481 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:22.680 out onto the PC. Where can they cover their bases there? What else 482 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.880 can you add a rogue like mode too? Because they already did that as 483 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.200 well with the Last of Us Part two. They did there was something else 484 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.519 too, didn't they like the Samett of War. Yeah, I don't know 485 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.519 how that. You know, we're not the biggest fans of Horizon here at 486 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:42.440 GB, but I guess you could hamphist a rogue like mode into that somehow. 487 00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:45.720 I don't know. Maybe you could even do that with Ratchet and clank 488 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:49.519 and that'd be fun. That could be cool. That'd be cool. That 489 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.039 would be cool because there's so many fun weapons in there. That'd be great. 490 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.440 Sony had a like, like the Sony account did like this tournament of 491 00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.599 most popular PlayStation franchise and the reason didn't do very well. I was like, 492 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.400 I'm like, am I being gaslighted by this industry? I feel like 493 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.559 a little bit. I think so, like I don't know what it is 494 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.519 like I want to see what people see in Horizon. Yeah what I can't 495 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.440 yet. There's a big audience, but not a big audience. I don't. 496 00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:23.400 I don't know. And it's not like him Ryan just buying a bunch 497 00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:27.639 of copies. Yeah, him and Herman Holtz were just going from target to 498 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.719 target road tripping. That sounds like a good time. Here's what we need 499 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.440 to get and hang to go to get PlayStation to go back and get into 500 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.840 the butter zone with with everyone. Hell yeah, kill Zone. Yeah, 501 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:44.719 that was a joke. Bring kill Zone back. I'm like, would they 502 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.360 I wonder if they would ever bring back kill Zone or the one that everyone 503 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.000 I guess really wants is Resistance, so calm, so resist, so calm. 504 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.960 Yes, that's the one everyone really wants. It's the first thing that 505 00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:00.159 got mentioned in chat was so calm. So yeah. I they probably do 506 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.719 consider bringing back one of these shooters, but I I guess now that they 507 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.559 own Bungee, maybe they maybe that aren't thinking that way. I don't know, 508 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.920 all right. Embracer Group sells a Saber interactive for a cool two hundred 509 00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:15.440 and forty seven million dollars. This is from Sophie McAvoy at Games Industry Dot. 510 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:20.000 Is this is a follow up to like a like reporting and then evidence 511 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:21.960 of like, hey, Saber removed a bunch of stuff on their website, 512 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:23.239 and the reporting was like, hey they sold. They bought themselves out for 513 00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:28.280 five hundred million dollars. No, two hundred and forty seven million dollars. 514 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.599 As announced by the firm and a statement published today, it has agreed to 515 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:36.440 divest selected assets from Saber to Beacon Interactive, a new company founded by Sabers 516 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.599 co founder Matthew Kark Arch Kark. Saber will retain a number of studios as 517 00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:45.639 part of the sale, including Nimble Giant, three D Realms, Sandbox Strategies, 518 00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:51.920 New World Interactive, Slipgate, mad Head Games, Fractured Bite, and 519 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.639 Digit As For Embracer, the firm will keep the following studios, Zen Studios, 520 00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.480 four A Games, although I think for both of those when for A 521 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:05.119 Games is the Metro Studios in studios is the that Pinball studio the video game 522 00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.920 Pinball. Saber seems to have an option to eventually buy those two studios later 523 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:14.440 if they want. Embrace will also keep Tripwire, Beam Dog, who does 524 00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:21.000 a lot of did a lot of those old computer RPG remasters, Tuxedo Labs, 525 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.960 demi Urge, Shiver, Aspire which just did that Star Wars does a 526 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:29.400 lot of the Star Wars remasters, Snapshot in thirty four Big Things. It 527 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.519 will also retain ipst I think be an Embracer and future publishing rights for a 528 00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.440 variety of titles, including various announced Triple A and Double A projects. In 529 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:43.719 addition to Killing four three and Tear down. One of those projects that Embracer 530 00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.880 will have a hand in it will co own with Saber, is an a 531 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.639 previously announced triple A game based on a franchise and everyone speculating and that's the 532 00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:58.639 Knights of the Old Republic. So that is going with Saber, but they 533 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.280 are still going to work with Embracer on it to some extent. And I'll 534 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:06.320 say what I've been saying from what I've heard for weeks now, Sony's not 535 00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.559 interested in seeing that thing through, or at least at least not as it 536 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.239 stands today. That could change, but that when when I said that thing 537 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.960 was done, it was it was done with Sony. They continued to try 538 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:22.840 to make it happen though, Hey, they extracted themselves from from uh Embracer. 539 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.760 Embracer is keeping about half the studios here, so that probably explains why 540 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.039 the price tag is two hundred and forty seven million dollars to buy themselves out. 541 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.199 But yeah, I'm glad of many of these studios were able to get 542 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.960 out from Embracer, and I hope that Embracer is keeping many of these studios 543 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.760 because they want them and want them to make games, and isn't just going 544 00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:46.400 to lay them off later. That would stink all It smells stinky already. 545 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:52.119 Grub smells pretty sticky over there in Embracer Land. Yes, maybe we'd maybe, 546 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:57.280 you know, there should be a higher ranking official group of folks that 547 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.480 are like, nah, we won't We're not gonna let you buy the people, 548 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.679 And hey, look at this. From this morning, Jason Treer mentioned 549 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:08.320 that Saber CEO Matthew Karch confirms that they've already decided to take four A and 550 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:13.480 Zen studios, despite the messenger from Embraser suggesting that it may retain those two 551 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:20.039 studios. So that's already happened. So I think what's weird here though, 552 00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.599 is I think Metro is going to stay with Embracer. I would have to 553 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:28.400 like sort this out and know exactly, but there's going to be some like 554 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.719 figuring out what this all means for the studios and the ips that they're most 555 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:37.000 frequently associated with. But I hope that's not the case because four A would 556 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.760 would definitely want to see that stuff through, and you know, at the 557 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.920 very least, if Embracer does keep it or A would likely have a deal 558 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:49.599 in place to just continue to work on it. Yeah, it's it's smell 559 00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:54.679 stinky over an Embracer. It is a publisher that is looking to continually cut 560 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:59.840 costs, and I think if I were in a situation here where it's like 561 00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:02.360 if I had to go with Saber or stay with Embracer, I would easily 562 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.280 choose let's go let's go it on our own. Let's see if we can 563 00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.400 go figure it out. I know there's no funding out there, but we 564 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:14.000 were able to get investments to buy ourselves out from from Embracer. Let's just 565 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.760 see if we can make some money selling some video games and a lot of 566 00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.320 these studios that are still at at Saber. You know, it's it's a 567 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.559 pretty massive organization, you know that all those like you know, three D 568 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:30.039 realms and stuff. So yeah, I think that they can probably make yes, 569 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:35.079 thirty four big things. Well, we'll see how this continues to fall 570 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.360 out. Though. It is confusing over an Embracer, mostly because it just 571 00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:44.199 makes no sense from the ground up what they did over there. It's like, 572 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.239 how are they making money? Are they making money? Do they know 573 00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.480 what they're doing? Do they know they're in the games industry. I don't 574 00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:55.320 think they do. No, they were in the organic growth of acquiring businesses 575 00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.920 industry, and now that's dried up on them. Do they want to organ 576 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:02.400 acquire me for a couple months and then I just leave right and then you 577 00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:05.960 buy yourself back for half the price. Yeah, that sounds like a good 578 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.960 plan. I'll do that. Prince of Persia the Lost Crown reveals post launch 579 00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:14.280 roadmap. This is from Nintendo Everything, and this is interesting. This game's 580 00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.320 getting quite a bit of DLC. More content is in store for Prince of 581 00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:22.079 Persia the Lost Crown, with a few free updates and and an even bigger 582 00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.800 piece of DLC. The first update, Warriors Path, is planned for this 583 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.960 month and include a speed run mode, perma death mode, and new Sargon 584 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.559 outfits. The second update, Boss Attack, is slated for this spring. 585 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.199 It'll include a boss rush mode and another round of Sargon outfits. The Divine 586 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.199 Trials update will close things out in the summer. This will be comprised of 587 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:45.280 new combat, platform and puzzle challenges, which that's music to my years because 588 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.920 I really enjoyed those things in the game. There all also be new amulets, 589 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.920 Sargon outfits, and more for the DLC. You besot just keeping things 590 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.119 close to the vest. We know it'll include story, but nothing else is 591 00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.320 known at this point, so it's full on story DLC, which I'm surprised 592 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:04.639 they're doing. Happy they're doing it though. Glad this game is getting support. 593 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.480 I hope fans show back up for it, but I will. I'm 594 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.880 definitely gonna be there for a lot of this stuff. Yeah, I'll check 595 00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:15.719 out that speed run moment of the mode a little bit, but those challenges 596 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:17.760 sound great to me. And then story a continuation of the story. You 597 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.239 know, the story was okay, but at the very like, at the 598 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:22.880 very least, it's like giving me new places to explore. Is that what 599 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.880 we're doing here? That would be great too. This is definitely on the 600 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.440 top of my list to like circle back around and revisit once things kind of 601 00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:37.320 slow down after what Dragon's Dogma two. Perhaps I just remember I just lost 602 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:43.599 steam so hard, like maybe halfway through this game. But I hope with 603 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.159 the new DLC plans being revealed and when that comes out, it also breathes 604 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.800 new life into it with more people flocking to it for the first time. 605 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:52.599 Agreed. Yeah, And I think that's one of these One of the things 606 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.920 that happens here is you add in all this content and then you could put 607 00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.440 out a definitive mode later. Again, that gives you another chains to reintroduce 608 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.599 the game to people, make it feel like an even better deal. You 609 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:06.840 can cut the price then and it's like, well, this is good, 610 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.280 this has all the DLC and it's only you know, thirty dollars instead of 611 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.960 forty dollars. There's a good chance to get a bunch of people to hop 612 00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:15.559 on board at that point. Which, hey, I hope they pull that 613 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.239 trigger. Uh greb. A couple of folks are mentioning this in the chat, 614 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:24.000 but no plans at all to release this on Steam. Huh Yeah, 615 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:28.360 they're not foreseeable future. They aren't. They did not mention that, right, 616 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:31.800 So this continues to be on you be soft Play I think you Is 617 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:37.039 it called you playstell Yes, yeah they are. You'd be self connected, 618 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.719 I think the new name. Yeah, that's where you have to play it 619 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.519 on PC. So, and which is weird because you'd be Stuff goes back 620 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:49.519 and forth with releases on Steam, like from game to game, So this 621 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.559 game seems like it would greatly benefit from being on Steam. But maybe that's 622 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.159 what happens with that definitive version. Maybe they release all this stuff and at 623 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.960 that point you put it out on Steam a year later, not about it? 624 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.280 Okay, I put this story in here, Jan, mostly as a 625 00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:10.159 question. Monopoly Go has hit two billion dollars in revenue in just ten months 626 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.440 after launch. This is from Dean Takashi, a games beat Scopeley announced that 627 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:20.960 what Monopoly Go has generated two billion dollars in revenue just ten months after launch, 628 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.519 three months after hitting one billion dollars, The reimagined take on Hasbro's an 629 00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:30.039 iconic board game has garnered a massive player base, solidifying its place as a 630 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.280 beloved, highly engaging title in the free to play market. It's a big 631 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:36.719 score not only for scop Lee, but it's new owner, Savvy Games Group, 632 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:42.039 which is Saudi Arabia. Jan. Have you ever heard of Monopoly Go? 633 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:50.079 Yes? Because Okay wondering when I am scrolling on TikTok These are the 634 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:57.760 worst UGC user generated content ads I have ever seen. Okay, getting the 635 00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:06.280 bottom of the barrel. Oh, those tier z Tiktoker's influencers whatever to make 636 00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:12.800 the worst edited content to promote this game, and I've only ever heard about 637 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:20.639 this game in those poorly edited ads. Stay. Perhaps you visit different websites, 638 00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:24.639 right, we'll all infer what I mean by different websites. Uh huh, 639 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:30.280 exactly. We're used. We're used to in condition for those different websites 640 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:36.239 to have those different types of ads with them. Those ads also have Monopoly 641 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:40.159 go ads. What the hell? Really? Yes, So I feel like 642 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:45.239 they're getting gen Z, They're getting the freaks and pers visiting those different websites. 643 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.920 I never actually played this game. No, yeah, I've never knew. 644 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.280 I didn't even look at it until I saw the story and saw two 645 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:58.679 billion dollars. I did install it, though, I'm try it out for 646 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:04.039 myself. Uh, those gen Z ads, the bad ones on TikTok where 647 00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.639 someone's like, oh, a comet said this is fake, Well, I'm 648 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:08.960 gonna go check it out myself. It prove to you it's not, even 649 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:14.760 though it totally is fake those day I think they work. They seem to 650 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.000 really work. They just capture some sort of audience, And I wonder if 651 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.840 it's like I mean, it's about TikTok, so how old how much old 652 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:23.719 of an audience can to be? I think it's the tricking other gen Z 653 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:28.719 s. So yeah, it's a it's a wild one that that is so 654 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.320 effective, like the type of game that it looks like Monopoly Go is based 655 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:37.599 off of looking at screenshots and play footage. I guess I've seen from those 656 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.840 ads it seems like the perfect game catered to the boomer audience. Yeah, 657 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.119 right, that's what I figure too. Yeah, and I bet, I 658 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.920 bet there are the biggest audience on there, likely, but you don't get 659 00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:52.559 the two billion in revenue without having a wide, huge swap of the of 660 00:45:52.760 --> 00:46:00.159 people playing. I did google Monopoly Go and the auto fill is Monopoly Go 661 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:05.280 free dice, So I'm assuming free dice is like your currency, you know, 662 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.960 V bucks or whatever, or maybe the thing you need to just play 663 00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:12.719 the game in the first place. It also shows like a Monopoly board with 664 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.719 different people on there, so there is like some live multiplayer element. I 665 00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:21.280 don't know, but two billion dollars in ten months is a buck wild. 666 00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:27.480 That is Nutso that is it's hard to Like most huge new mobile games come 667 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.400 out and they're aiming to do about a billion dollars in the first year, 668 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.559 which is huge on its own, two billion dollars in less time than that 669 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:39.440 is crazy. I'm curious, grub, where do you fall on Monopoly The 670 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.760 board game. Do you like it? Do you hate it? I don't 671 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:47.119 know if I've ever played like the Shoot rules, so I kind of feel 672 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.519 like I'm not I would be like, oh, yeah, it's not great. 673 00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:53.880 But I wonder if I've just played weird house rules that actually ruin the 674 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:59.199 game. So I don't know. I was thinking about I would like to 675 00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.119 play Risk again. Risk is one I played a lot as a as a 676 00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:05.840 kid and enjoyed with my older brothers. So I'm like, I want to 677 00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.039 check back in on Risk, and maybe it's time to do Monopoly as well. 678 00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:13.159 Are are those games in tabletop simulator or are they too basic? I 679 00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.719 just no, I feel like everything is in tabletop simulator. All right, 680 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.679 Well, we need to have a board game night or something. Board game, 681 00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.639 board game, Yeah, yeah, we should do We should do that. 682 00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:30.800 That'd be actually pretty neat, like we do that trivial pursuit perhaps, 683 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:38.920 yeah, poker drinking, shoots and ladders, all right, yeah, but 684 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:44.719 board game sounds like fun. We also, you know, should eventually play 685 00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:49.480 Wingspan as a crew because we we shoved about so much. Also, Tam 686 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.719 has like twelve hundred board games that he continues to buy. We need him 687 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.559 to take some of them. I didn't know he was like a secret sick 688 00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.320 Oh he's never he's never even talks about that. That's how you know it's 689 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:05.360 a real sick oness Tam, that guy's a cicco. Why did you know 690 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.079 he was a sick on that way? So he was sick on multiple multifaceted 691 00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:13.840 ways. I just didn't know his board games as well. Ham only functions 692 00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.280 in sicco mode. That's right, that's it's his only gear. Uh. 693 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:22.599 Embracers suggests Star Wars Codor remake isn't coming out for over a year. This 694 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.519 is from Tom Ivan at VGC. Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic remake 695 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:29.840 is reportedly still in development at Saber Interactive, but it doesn't sound like it 696 00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.159 will be released in the next twelve months in it now. On Thursday, 697 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.679 Embracer Group announced plans to sell off a large part of Saber the group, 698 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.000 which is home to multiple studios and projects, and a deal that could be 699 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:44.679 worth up to five hundred million dollars, while Embracer will retain Aspire Media, 700 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:49.159 the studio originally enlisted to Listen to make the Knights of the Old Republic remake. 701 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:53.000 The game the game is going with Saber, according to Bloomberg's Jason Schreyer, 702 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:58.440 who previously reported that the company had taken over development. Never Nevertheless, 703 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.960 when the deal closes and Embracers Sabers Star part ways, Kotor is expected to 704 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:07.079 be jointly held asset between the two companies. In today's announcement of the deal, 705 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.679 Embracer said it's retained assets, including two joint projects with the buyer, 706 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.639 including a previously announced Triple A game based on a major license. And a 707 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:21.199 conference call discussing the deal, Embracer CEO Lars Wingerfer's Brain Genius was quizzed about 708 00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:24.320 the jointly held Triple A projects on a couple of occasions. One analyst asked 709 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:28.000 if it was expected to come out in the next twelve months or whether it 710 00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.239 was a more distant release, and he said, no, I think that 711 00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:35.639 kind of game needs more deep love and respect. So without giving full color, 712 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.119 I think it's some time left until that is released. Color is always 713 00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.960 something that these guys say to analysts, and analysts say in their questions, 714 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.719 Can I get some more color on that? Yeah, deep love and respect 715 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:51.440 is what that game needs. Yeah, I think I wouldn't expect that game 716 00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.880 before like twenty twenty seven, if it ever really happens. Yeah, I've 717 00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.760 I've resigned that if I am going to pick up in play Ko Tour, 718 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.519 it's just going to be whatever version exists right now on the internet, versus 719 00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.760 waiting for a remaster. Totally fun. It's it's you know, it's an 720 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.440 older game, but it holds up, checks out. There's oh Tor show. 721 00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.039 Well we're still work shopping the name. Oh but yeah, but yeah, 722 00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:19.760 man, if you want to play that game, I will sit there 723 00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.960 and watch you play it, and I will will stfu Friday while you do 724 00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:28.559 that so that we could see see your reactions, because I think that'd be 725 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:31.239 a lot of fun. Uh. Finally, Yeah, this is this is 726 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:37.440 a finally Overwatch two fans think one or I think the Cowboy skins are excuse 727 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.199 me, Cowboy Bebop skins are goofy as hell in the game, but especially 728 00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:45.679 one of them from Ken Shephard at Kotaku. Overwatch two's the latest collaboration is 729 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.880 with the beloved space Western anime Cowboy Bebop. The event, which kicked off 730 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.519 on March twelve, let's five heroes from Blizzard's team based Shooter cosplay has different 731 00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:58.239 characters from the classic nineties show. The event follows in the footsteps of other 732 00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:01.320 crossover events, like like October Over twenty three to one that featured K pop 733 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:07.880 group Le Seraphim. For this latest crossover, five heroes Cassidy, Sambra, 734 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:12.440 Ashmauga, and reky Ball each get a skin and a few other cosmetics. 735 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:17.599 Each come packaged in a twenty five dollar bundle. But some of the new 736 00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.639 skin well, some of those new skins are great. I played a few 737 00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.519 rounds with Damage hero Sombard dressed up as Bebop's fellow hacker ed last night and 738 00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:30.840 had a bonding moment with a Masaga player wearing the jet black skin. But 739 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:34.960 some overwauch fans aren't too fond of the new Cassidy skin, which stresses him 740 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:39.840 up as bebop main character Spike Spiegel. Have you seen this, jan I'm 741 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:46.480 looking at screenshots now and it looks okay unless I'm not seeing like the one 742 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:52.280 that folks are complaining about the most. So what people are mostly, I 743 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:55.639 think they're mostly frustrated with the hair. I think, yeah, in generally 744 00:51:55.679 --> 00:52:00.440 just kind of looks a bit goofy. But I think people are like annoyed 745 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:04.840 that he kind of has what looks like the wrong hair. Uh, And 746 00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.880 yeah, it's kind of like too spiky on the top and doesn't have like 747 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:12.440 the swoop that Spike Spiegel's hair has. I'll say, in general, I 748 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.559 do think these kind of look a little bit, eh. I think they're 749 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:20.840 not maybe in motion they look a lot better. It looks like it looks 750 00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.920 like they're just doing poor cosplay. Yes, it looks like poor cosplay. 751 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:29.639 Yes, but yeah there's this one here where it's like, please fix the 752 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.119 hair, and it's like, yeah, if you kind of actually just did 753 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:37.239 that, Although it looks like this also modified the face a little bit as 754 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:40.159 well, But if you just fix the hair, that would be a huge 755 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.960 win there in terms of making them look more like Spike Spiegel. Really, 756 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.639 no, jan twenty five dollars for these skin packs these days. That's that 757 00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:55.880 is where we're at, like each yeah, twenty five dollars each. Well, 758 00:52:55.920 --> 00:53:00.199 no, don't do that that. Supers at home, don't do with 759 00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:05.039 that. Consumers at home save yourselves. Uh there, let me tell y'all 760 00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:08.320 if you just just go watch the original anime grub. I've never seen it, 761 00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:13.719 but uh, there's tons of pictures of what's her name, Fay out 762 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.239 there on the internet. I know that y'all just trying to look at Faye 763 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:21.480 on in Overwatch. Just just go through that somewhere else. Jane, you 764 00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:25.000 gotta watch it, man. It's one season, Bud. It's worth it. 765 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:32.000 It's so worth it. Change that's fair. It's really good, Cowboy 766 00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:37.000 man like that show a whole bunch. I still get to another story. 767 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.880 But CEEF stars to reach five million copies. But I think they added a 768 00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:45.760 replayer cooperative mode where it's like you can like time the hits in the turn 769 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.519 based combat all together, and that sounds pretty neat. I don't know if 770 00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:53.119 I'm going to play a whole turn based like j RPG with with you know, 771 00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:57.079 a cooperative partners, but it's cool that it's in there. Cool mode, 772 00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:02.159 I guess j RPG style. I should say grub. There was a 773 00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:07.679 tweet linked out in the chat. It looks like the Apex Legends team had 774 00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:14.199 had faced a bunch of layoffs today. I'm trying to find that. Oh 775 00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:17.840 now, really, okay, let me well look for that. I'll look 776 00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:23.280 as well. Man, that is that would be terrible, Okay, let's 777 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:30.119 see here. Yeah, the Apex team was hit with layoffs today. It 778 00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:32.119 sucks seen some of the people I've worked with for almost three years now get 779 00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:37.000 let go. Hopefully they land on their feet sooner rather than later. And 780 00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:40.159 that is from fifteen hours ago. And that was a level designer at Respawn, 781 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:49.639 Aaron Stump who tweeted that, got another tweet here from Alex Ackerman, 782 00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:55.360 who ran social media for Apex. After twenty seasons of Apex and five years 783 00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:59.840 at Respawn, nearly to the day, my job has been made redundant. 784 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.960 I've been laid off, and then working on this game and supporting this community 785 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.239 has truly been the honor of my career and highlight of my life. Thank 786 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:13.079 you for everything, Legends heart and emoji jeez. Yeah. Connor Ford, 787 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.960 who was a security analyst on Apex Legends sat tired of these layoffs. Man, 788 00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:22.039 losing friends at worked is soft up? Yeah, respond build engineer Tyler 789 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.599 Owans, that's who you mentioned, I think. Yeah. So this is 790 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:30.440 on top of the layoffs that happened a couple of weeks ago. And at 791 00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:34.280 that time it was a EA's laying off five percent of people, and I 792 00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.679 remember mentioning like I thought more would happen because I knew a lot of that 793 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:43.559 was in the consultation period in places like Europe where they have those sorts of 794 00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:45.519 things like the UK has, you know, you can't just lay people off. 795 00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:49.199 You got to go in this consultation and talk to the government and explain 796 00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.760 what's going on. So it's like once they got through that period they probably 797 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.119 cut some most jobs that this doesn't seem to be that. This just seems 798 00:55:55.119 --> 00:56:00.599 to be there are more people we need to lay off. Let some people 799 00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:02.199 around here that we could have cut in the last round. I don't know. 800 00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.639 Apex Legends again, is something that they are looking at as not being 801 00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.559 able to reach the heights it was once at. They aren't looking at it 802 00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.480 in terms of this is EA. They look at at Apex Legends and like 803 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:20.280 it's not going to necessarily grow. We're just trying to extract as much value 804 00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.440 from it as possible. And in their opinion, I guess what that means 805 00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:28.039 is have fewer people making stuff for the game, and so you have fewer 806 00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:34.119 people you have to pay. And again that's just it's just nuts because Apex 807 00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:37.679 Legends is something you could definitely keep going for much longer, and they just 808 00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:39.960 talked about how they're going to it's gonna like the launcher is gonna have a 809 00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:43.559 ton more stuff in there, It's going to grow beyond the confines of Battle 810 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.360 Royale. I'm not really buying it, which you know, we kind of 811 00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:50.280 weren't buying it any anyhow, because we already knew that titan Fall Legends, 812 00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:53.000 which was effectively titan Fall three, they were making that to be a part 813 00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:58.159 of Apex Legends, similar to what they're talking about now. They canceled that, 814 00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:01.280 which everyone was into what they we're making with that, they canceled that. 815 00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.519 So it's like, Okay, they're already looking at looka, well, 816 00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:07.400 this isn't worth it. The Apex Legends is going to make enough money back 817 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.480 for that. So when they talk about we're going to continue supporting Apex Legends 818 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:17.880 and growing it in different ways at feels like lip service at best. All 819 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:24.639 Right, I just don't know how. God, the job pool is so 820 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:30.360 vast and wide now, yep, and it's going to uh yeah, this 821 00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.159 is gonna it's gonna be rough out there because there's a lot of talented people 822 00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:38.239 going for the same jobs and it's you know, it's not like if you 823 00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:44.320 don't have a name, if you don't have a big executive producer, director, 824 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.480 senior developer credit on shipping a major game. Like if you if you 825 00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:52.000 got laid off from Riot and you worked on League Legends, you're gonna have 826 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.119 a little bit easier time. But these days, even those people are going 827 00:57:55.159 --> 00:58:00.320 to struggle to get investments to start up their own studios. So yeah, 828 00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:02.400 it's it's a lot of people are going to end up out of the video 829 00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:06.519 game industry, is what it feels like. And that's just that just stinks, 830 00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:12.400 all right. Whole question from yesterday is Mega Man important? I'm going 831 00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:16.199 to refresh that real quick, because you get three thousand votes and I voted 832 00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:23.800 yes, and so did sixty four percent of respondents. Mike breath there, 833 00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:29.400 my tummy started hurting. I was I was hoping he wouldn't get too mad. 834 00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:32.360 I think Mega Man is important. I don't know how important it is 835 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:37.360 that to like Capcom's game making strategy, but I think as an icon, 836 00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:44.039 as a a mascot, it's very important and it can be important to games, 837 00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:46.840 probably just not as important as Monster Hunter or Resident Evil these days. 838 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:53.599 Next Poole question, for tomorrow Friday, Dregs Day. Have you ever heard 839 00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:57.440 of Monopoly Go? Have you heard of Monopoly Go? Yes or no? 840 00:58:57.559 --> 00:59:00.000 Answer that question? Don't count it if you heard it on the show? 841 00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.400 Was the first place you ever heard it? Say? Now, I appreciate 842 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:07.119 that. We will discuss the results of that though on Game mess Mornings here 843 00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.880 on Giant Bomb tomorrow. Speaking to Giant Bomb, Jan, what do we 844 00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:15.800 have going on on the website. We are going to attempt to throw it 845 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:20.760 down on a Thursday night. We'll see what happen afternoon with Star Wars Battlefront, 846 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:24.159 specifically the PC version. I understand that there's a very small amount of 847 00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:30.800 servers available, which, hey, you know, I make a custom server 848 00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:35.519 because I'm paying for one for Power World. Still grub stopped paying for the 849 00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:39.679 custom server and power it was a three month thing, so it hasn't expired 850 00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.519 yet. That's what it is. I mean, I shouldn't have paid I 851 00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:45.039 shouldn't have bought three months in the first place. Jan, But hey, 852 00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:45.840 no, no, no, no, no no, that was a mistake. 853 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:51.960 A voicemail dumb truck popping off Later today tomorrow, another episode of Games 854 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:57.400 Mornings, as well as an episode of UPF where we were doing a Bolatrouh 855 00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:01.599 seeded run and then BC we are as well to cap off the week, 856 01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:07.639 or we'll talk about wrestling games. Talk about them wrestling games, all right, 857 01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.639 I think that's going to do it. Jane, thank you so interested 858 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:15.440 today talk with me about video games. I really appreciate it. It's the 859 01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:17.960 only way to start a Thursday grub. And thank you all out there for 860 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.920 listening. You're the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a 861 01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:24.599 good one, take care of yourself and goodbye.