And where Fucking Back? Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast WWF Madison Square Garden, January
twenty third, nineteen eighty four. In the first WWF title win of Hulk
Hogan Boss Uh, there was something, you know, because it's been a
while, really, you know, we we've we haven't done a traditional lapsed
fan show. There is a death toll. We forgot to toll the bell.
It's not like it doesn't toll enough on this MSG card. Oh my
god, I know. Seriously, they're fucking It's like someone, someone is
very someone is very concerned about order being retained. Twenty five percent of MSG
shows in this era were this sound ding ding ding. I wish it was
that thing, but it was more like ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
ding. Like someone's like, just like, come on, we need order.
Who have we lost? We have seventeen accounted for, accounted for because
they're are problem only some referees that I didn't know, well I got,
I got, I got Dick Lutz, I got Dick Howard Finkel, Referee
Santos Ramos, Gorilla, Monsoon, Pat Patterson, Mister Fuji, Chief j
Strongbow, Salvator, BelOMO, Paul Orndorf Roddy Piper, Lou Albano, Boston's
own Dana Carpenter, yep, the Iron Chic, Renee Goula, Jimmy Snooka,
Rocky Johnson, and that's rough. That is rough, rough, rough,
And and whoever that guy is in a sweater that always walks the wrestlers
back and forth at MSG who we have yet to have a member of the
Solar system step up and identify by the way he's like the uh uh,
like the Doug Dillinger of Matt Garden. So we opened with one of the
most eighty sounds possible to comment, screaming before you, before anything happens.
There are a couple things that I found that I think might be of value.
There isn't there. In an article in the Wrestler magazine dated January of
nineteen eighty four, there is an article that says, so, this says
before he won the championship, mind you, is Hulk Hogan afraid to be
champion? Somebody had been denied press credentials. Right, Fans think of Hulk
Hogan as the best wrestler in the world never to have won a major title.
Why the way? The answer to that question is kind of yes,
he's actually petrified of being champion. Why has the prize eluded him? There
are plenty of excuses, we've all We've heard them all before. Now,
however, it's time the fans started looking at the facts. We're afraid that
won't be pleasant. It was the fans who brought Hulk Hogan back to the
AWA. They signed petitions begging their hero to return, though it meant he
wouldn't get a title shot. A champion. Nick Bokwago had apparently seen to
that. Hogan nonetheless answered the fans please. Everyone felt this made him a
hero. There were a few. I just signed a letter for my favorite
hero to return after they got rid of the steak and cheese. That's true.
There were a few who didn't quite agree with that. They felt Hogan
was hiding behind the fans to camouflage is real fear. After examining the record
book, it's not easy to refute them. Bobby Heenan was the first one
to announce the theory. Hogan, he proclaimed, is afraid to be champion.
He came back to the AWA despite the fact that he believes he won't
get a title shot. Now, as Nick Bockwinkle's manager. I can assure
you Hogan hasn't been blacklisted from title competition. He just says these things so
he doesn't have to wrestle for the title. Nobody will blame him when he
doesn't go for the top prize. Instead, he'll blame Nick and come off
looking like a hero. It's always easier being a hero for something you didn't
do. Wow, something you did. Why hasn't anyone asked why Hogan came
back even though he doesn't think he can get a title shot. Now we
know about the fans wanting him here, Well, there are fans all over
the country who I'm gonna jump to page sixty two. I just I can't
imagine the politics behind this article. Oh yeah, and they're exciting. Heenan
is like the truth tailor, not realizing Heenan's coming right in the door behind
him. Yeah, exactly. Who want to see him? Fans in every
part of the country would like to see him wrestle for one world title or
another. Fans would pay to see him wrestle for the title. Promoters drool
at the thought of a Hulk Hogan challenge. But in all the areas he's
been in He's wrestled for a world title fewer times than any other top challenger.
What's the reason? If you ask me, the reason is obvious.
The man is scared. He's terrified of the responsibilities and unique difficulties of being
a world champion. Is it a coincidence that wherever he goes he always complains
the champion is avoiding him or is he always hiding behind excuses? Unquote That
was all Heenan's quotes. Considering that Heenan has hated Hogan for years, it
would be easy to dismiss those accusations, Yet the record books bear him out.
Wow, Hogan has had relatively few title shots. He did return to
the AWA despite his contention that he'd he'd be frozen out of a title shot.
While one can admire his loyalty to the fans, it was not the
most intelligent move a professional good bank. The first thing a pro athlete learns
to do is disregard sentiment. Many Matt Starrs wish might wish to help out
the fans, but they almost realize their first responsibility is to their careers.
The most important facet of their responsibility is to realize their ambition to become a
world champion. All other considerations are secondary. That's why Hogan's decision to return
to the ABA surprised even his friends. Maybe he doesn't want to be champion,
said Rick Martell, a close friend of Hogan's. Were they close at
all? Ever, No, they're just baby faces. At the same time,
if he and Buck Winkle were freezing mouth of the title picture, I'd
leave the area. Look, I love the AWA, I love the fans,
and I love the arenas. At the same time, I have to
think of my career. All wrestlers think the way compelled to all our professions.
We don't have much time. We have to get as far as we
can as soon as possible. When Heenan started saying Hulk was afraid of being
champion, I thought it was the usual Heenan nonsense. Now that I think
about it, I'm not so sure. Look, it's no crime to admit
to be ambitious. He doesn't want to be champion, that's his decision.
Still getting into fields with mister Saito and Crush a Blackwell someone doesn't make much
sense as someone who also wants the HbA championship. Wow, No one's clicking
in a place for me, what the story that Verne didn't put the strap
on him because they couldn't come to an agreement about splitting Japanese royalties. So
Vern perhaps knowing that Hogan's splitting, you know, puts in a phone call
to get a story done about the reason Hogan never won the belt is because
he didn't want it, because he's a coward. Yep. I'm just trying
to gain things out. Remember when Vince Junior takes over, he bans anything
but the official in house magazine from being ringside taking pictures, and there are
you know, seems like a dozen publications that that was a lifeblood for that
access in those photos. He also takes away what we could think of his
sort of season passes for the first two rows of the garden, so that
you don't see these same old adult wrestling fans anymore. You start to see
kids in the front row and celebs and the media, the wrestling media as
it was back then, try to clap back by offering more favorable coverage to
the nwa AWA in any non WWF office through bill Apter. That's why Meltzer
mentioned after in the same breath as that Minneapolis columnist that he didn't take too
seriously when he said he interviewed help in the locker room after this event.
Has has apter ever like I mean, has he ever talked about, you
know, people lobbying for stories for he has? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he has. He's he's never gotten into any kind of juicy details.
Always so political. Yeah, I mean, you're talking to a worker when
you talk to that. Yeah, I'm she's a nice guy, but he's
working. You know, it's he's he's much closer to one of the boys
than he is a reporter. You know, he's a worker. Yeah,
and he's you know, it's a very unique industry that that he was a
part of there where it was like, you're not exactly pr but you're not
exactly journalism, but the regional promoters that don't have national exposure need you to
spotlight their talent to sell tickets. It just helps. It helps undeniably,
and it helps the wrestlers to get in the magazine. One of the big
things at the nineteen eighty three NWA convention when Vince basically you know, is
chewed out by Ollie Anderson for the moves he was making it in Ohio and
then Vince and his father walk out of the convention was a cover of an
aftermag that had Jerry Lawler coverage of Jerry Lawler defeating Andre the Giant in Memphis.
I think the cover something like the Midget that defeated Andre the Giant,
Oh my God, and that was kind of seen as I think it was
Vince Senior. Maybe it wasn't this convention, maybe it was a prior convention,
but Vince Senior was decrying this as kind of like the downfall of our
industry. When you know a guy that one one area promoter is building up
is just you know, total teflon, undefeatable monster that can have that narrative
just you know, pulled out from under him because someone in another territory got
Andre to come in and lose a match and it's covered in the magazines.
So uh yeah, you know you got to keep a relationship with After if
nothing else than to kill something that might disrut your territory. I'm not unhappy
the Hulk isn't the going for it. At the same time, I do
find it odd one might expect Hogan to be angry when confronted with Heenan's accusations.
Instead, instead, he's uncharacteristically quiet. During the interview, he looked
down at his hands that either fell loosely or clenched until the knuckles turned white.
Yeah, I thought about what he said, Hogan began, and maybe
he's not all wrong. I left the ABA and discussed at not being given
a fair shot at the title, and I came back on the fan signed
petitions asking for my return. That was very flattering and deeply appreciated. I
could have just thanked them and explained why I couldn't return. Instead, I
came back. That's not what That's not what they tell you to do when
you become professional wrestler. You know, common wisdom says I should go for
the top prize no matter what what you know what I don't. I don't
do that. I don't know why. I don't think I'm afraid to be
world champion. I want to win win a title very badly. But why
don't I want to win it badly enough? That's a question only Hulk Hogan
can answer for himself. Is he afraid to be world champion? Is he
want? Is he warring with Crusher Blackwell and mister Saido to keep himself out
of the championship picture. If he ever wishes to be world champion, he'd
better ask answer those questions fast. So amazing, I gotta tell you too.
And in the midst of this so next to this this article, there
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time released. Isn't the whole point of putting them in capsule for him?
Brother? Exactly? That's a concerning comment in and of itself. There's this
is okay, this is bizarre. They don't really say what. They don't
say what the fuck this is? They have seven different diet plans, okay.
One pink speckled tablets ice breakers. They don't say what the pink speckled
tablets do. Number two green speckled tablets, Number three blue speckled tablets,
four yellow slash like there're all colors. They don't say what they do.
Unbelievable. Imagine the warehouse these were sitting in in nineteen eighty five, Like
these four someone probably found like a bunch of unused pills from like eighteen eighteen
forty six, and we're like, well, I guess we should just put
these into They look good to me. Would just model makes them? Uh?
Maybe they're just weight control tablets that you can go as far back as
you can find any wrestling magazine, decades and decades and decades back, and
they all bespeak the reality that you just illustrated by reading that first ad,
that when you get right down to the brass tacks, the bare bones,
the lowest common denominator form of marketing which appears in wrestling magazines, it's it's
the story of the twentieth century in this country. Why aren't you ripped?
That's right? What the fuck are you? Are you getting fat? Why
aren't you ripped? Right? Folks, there's not much more to say than
that. You can explain just about everything that's happened in the culture from that
notion. I don't understand this there's a doctor doctor as should be doctor ass
makes his patience several inches taller. Yes, I don't know how fine.
It's fine. I mean, and it's so bluriy if you are short statute,
regardless of your age. Oh I see he sells stilts. No,
it's like I mean, I have a drawing of a guy who's like stretching,
as if that's going to help him elongate. Oh man, the fuck?
Uh you can. Also they have an advertisement for to buy birth certificates,
diplomas, and wills two for two fifty. Yep. Yeah, you
can get a photo idea and hear this one. We can all beat inflation
if we just use our dollars and cents. A public service message from the
of the Advertising Council in the US Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Labor,
and Treasury, presented by this magazine. That's all it says. Man,
that's tremendous. I love it. Thanks for that. That really yep.
That's that's the things lost to history of the politics of Hogan, going from
a w A to WWF. So we open the show with just a love
montage. I mean I just had to like pause it. It's so wonderful.
Why is it wonderful? Let people know. It's like because you've got
these these beautiful, warm orange yellows and Red's neon like they're glowing. It's
like it's like ah, and like lasers and shit, and it's just so
great and the music is just so amazingly cheesy. It's ah. The MSG
Network opening, it's got the Twin towers there, it's got the Empire State
Building, it's got kind of like the skeleton of MSG and lasers, like
you said, yep. They show the Rangers, the Knicks boxing pole vaulting,
and then Bob Becklan and Green Trunks holding up the belt to live in
a time when you could just you know, juxtapose Bob Beckland next to top
level pro athletes and no one's batter than I. Yep. And you can
hear Fink kind of introducing, you know, or welcoming the crowd live underneath
this this opening montage, and there he is Grilla Monsoon ringside hold on.
Grilman Soon has a whole voiceover thing, and I got that for you,
ugh. Madison Square Yard Network presents the World Wrestling Federation Up to You by
Kenny. The Proof is at the Pump by Manufacturers hand Over Trust of Thanks,
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Higher Interests News Services had Better Ways to save You b b The fuck is
such a such a stupid theme, but it's so wonderful if you don't feel
something when you hear that we can't be friends and like they got the fucking
I always love this. I always am a fan. When to help accent
the theme, someone is playing a xylophone. Yeah in the notes, like
you can hear it, king, King, King, Let's go. It's
just so fucking great. I mean, you're eating a TV dinner watching this
and it's okay. Yes, it doesn't mean you're like you know, like
you know you you and he's like you and your family are eating you know,
dinners that you've microwaved, microwaved and they're in plastic containers and you just
you're all ripping off the cellophane and and preparing to watch wrestling on on the
MSG network. There's a pretty funny comment I saw about how like we pine
for the days when when going to the mall could get you cancer. Oh,
and I'm like, uh yeah, true, that small price to pay.
As far as I'm concerned, I agree. And so put yourself in
that. Put yourself, you know, in front of that TV, dinner
with the tray on a Monday night in nineteen eighty four January, nowhere to
go. I mean, it's fucking freezing outside, yep, but there's matches
at the garden. The garden's hot, and you better believe you have the
live bird's eye view. Yep. People like you know, I imagine the
families and queens and you talk about what it used to be better. Yeah,
it used to be better, and we're breaking it down. We're breaking
down frame by frame. Yes, we're explaining precisely why we're pointing to the
production elements we're pointing and because also too, you know, it's these things
and that that encouraged togetherness. That's exactly right. These are all positive things.
Yeah, these aren't divisive things. These things don't put people into into
tribal corners, you know anyway, written in beautiful cursive with yellow golden brown
coloring by the and then if all those add copy there that did that,
you heard Gorilla mon soon read and you know, just just wonderful, just
I just was taken back by it. They even showed a clip of a
dog show and a hint of things to go. Yep, so we dissolved
to that distant ring shot from up in the rafters at MSG that we all
know, that establishing shot, if you will, And Gorilla welcomes us ringside
with Pat Patterson, who's on the call for another exciting amount of action here
at MSG and the color commentary slot. And you know, you can hear
that din sound like you know when a when a microphone is half plugged into
an AMP. And they pitched to a commercial and we got that big yellow
w w F logo. It hadn't been bronzed and shined yet yet. I
only wish, I only wish this tape had the commercials. Yeah, I
would have just made it extra perfect. Gorilla says, we're gonna lead off
with a super duper match, which of course means it won't be as uh
luis rivea out of Puerto Rico to battle ring veteran Tony Garia in our opening
contest. Yeah, and uh, Patterson says as the following it should be
a very scientific match. And I'll tell you one thing monsoon, this is
one night I've been waiting for for a long time. This should be very,
very exciting. It's a classic night. You're wrong, just not this
match. Well, pat Uh, you couldn't have looked forward to it for
that long. Hogan only been with the company for a month. Uh uh.
And they didn't announce he was going to challenge Chek until three days before
the show. Uh Patterson, that did not. Everyone knows that we always
had Hogan in mind, right, he's kind of showing his hand there,
netn't. But I was actually pretty impressed watching this back the degree to which
they were ready to kind of like make this happening an occasion. Like sure
knew they were going to launch something big. It was not like a yeah,
we're gonna try and and and we'll see what happens with Hogan with the
belt. But now it's almost like they predicted every single thing that was about
to fall into place. They were the announcers were saying it before it became
so as it regards to Helkamania, like it's like they really, I mean
it's it's I guess in a way, it's just the way you got to
plan out these things. When you're taking a massive risk like this, you've
got to really treat it like there's no going back. You know, you're
not testing somebody out, You're not looking to see if this is going to
work, like you're going to make this work or you're gonna die trying.
So Garia steps up to the apron with no music and the Beldings and Fink
gets the MSG mic falling from the ceiling welcomes everyone Tonight's All Star Card of
professional Wrestling. Yes, this is way before they were shying away from the
term professional wrestling, as you've heard in several bites in Part one. Yeah,
these matches are sanctioned by the Way and supervised by the New York State
Athletic Comission, with officials judges Abe Coleman, Paula Mora, and Jack Gibbons.
What are these judges for It's a great question. They're never referenced ever
again at all. I mean are they commissioners? Like, why do you
call them judges, I mean, what are they doing? What are here?
Maybe longtime MSG fans were accustomed to some kind of rule book that was
never activated from like twenty years before, where they actually did kind of pretend
to have judges and attendance just in case. Maybe they also it was the
State Athletic and Entertainment Commission, to be clear, attending position Richard Ostrico,
time keeper Fred Abatello, ting Ting, referee Santos Ramos and introduces himself,
and there's another ting ting Ting and the opening contest is scheduled for one fall,
twenty minute time limit. We get a great glimpse of how a garden
card used to start in that era. It's kind of like people are filing
in. It's chill. No one thinks this match is going to be huge,
and people are totally happy with that. They're happy with exchanges of holds
in the early going. Yeap, yes, you know, yes from Puerto
Rico. As soon as think says that, some guy in the audience goes,
yeah, it's one guy to thirty one, Jose Luis Rivera Rivera and
they get the Curse of Chiron. Back then, that kind of really elegant.
Yes, person from wrestling you one graphics. Whenever they put the graphic
up kind of makes that noise almost like by hitting the chiron, you add
like a white noise to the broadcast. Crazy how that happens the graphics up.
I'm gonna turn on an electric toothbrush. What is like all of a
sudden, the power is gonna go out in Madison's garden because they put up
a chiron. And by the way, just to be clear, I would
take it back in a second, Yes, I would take television looking and
sounding like this again in a second. Hey, hey, I'm Moffin.
Could just gotta do me a favor? All right, We're gonna do a
graphic. I'm the tele Oh Jesus Christ, I know, I know.
Can you please do me a favor? And look, just stay by the
fuses and the you know, like the powers and stuff because the broadless new
technology. Frank, I just tell I know, I know, I'm fucking
nervous, yere, because you've got a higher union. This guy from like
Ayatzi has no clue would hold to put the plug in. You gotta be
by a practice. You've gotta be by a practice, Frank, can't we
just pop someone's tires to make sure they come back red, white and blue
ropes. Great garden crowd shop might goes up after Fink makes his announcements.
In Patterson says Korea is well respect by wrestling fans Gia from awkward Australia.
I believe it is how you can say that again? Yeah, you know,
unbeknownst to most wrestling fans, Tony his parents are former US Senator John
Kerry and Dennis Stamp. Although I did I did hear that that Stamp disowned
Geria because Garia was booked more. That's a lot of stamps to get it
all the way over from New Zealand. He was booked more. Monsion says
that Tony Greea is still out there for a partner. In Patterson says Tito
would make a great partner. I'm surprised Patterson didn't volunteer. Exactly, Garria
vers Rivera to kick things off. They get a handshake, see with Louis
at this point, Yeah, he is, I think, all right,
so he's not really looking for he's not looking for a partner. Loui's working
in marketing for Titan. I think at this point we're about to ding ding
circle. Garea sweeps and shoots Low and they lock up to the rope.
Clean break. Crowd applauds that little Monsoon says he's surprised to see l R
sign a contract to fight with Tony. Oh, to see Luis Rivera sign
a contract to fight Korea tonight. The two, I don't know because he
doesn't think he's up to snuff. There's a standing switch and Kara snatches the
arm and takes over. Rivera does a head scissor. Great little kip up
there and Grea with a a hammer lock standing and that's reversed as well as
Rivera scoops the leg. Kara kicks off of that entanglement, and we have
ourselves a stalemate in MSG. Yeah a lot of that, yeah, yeah,
yeah right. This is before. This is before you took breaks to
make the crowd appload for you. Yeah right, like fucking cries like you
do these fucking you know. Grappling is like, oh, like, oh,
this guy actually learned how to wrestle. We need the fans to celebrate
grapplings. Shane graps, this guy really knows. This guy could really handle
himself in a fight. Even though ninety percent of the things they just exchange
just would never be executed in a real amateur match or jiu jitsu match.
Ever, if you tried to fucking you know, and if you tried to
pull the ship in a fight, you get killed, absolutely murdered on the
sidewalk, Like, no one's gonna wait for you to reverse a fucking hammer
lock, you know, into another one, Like no, it's not gonna
happen. You're dead. Oh. He he threw his leg over the arm
at the crew of the elbow and then spun around on his back and came
back up to the wrist lock. You see. That's that's that's uh,
that's ringmanship. If you can entangle your leg in the arm, you are
a chain grappler. That's right. So girl Monson says, you can't wait
for the mid EVNU tonight. So they're pumping it from the right. In
the the beginning, Patterson talks about that sense of electricity in the air that
night, jam packed overflow crowd. They welcomed the folks watching and felt forum
in the closed circuit. And that's, by the way, really why all
of these MSG cards were produced as television shows, Because they had to have
production elements ready in case they sold. Every seat in the garden had to
open up felt for him and put a live broadcast up there. That's wild.
So it always made sense to set up for live broadcast at the garden
for that reason, even if it wasn't going to be on television, which
it almost always was MSG HBO in the seventies. I mean, I invite
you to consider a world where you could watch every MSG show on HBO coast
to coast in the seventies. It was very limited availability HBO at the time,
but it existed. It was there for the taking if you could find
a way to get it. For early ladies, they even started going on
USA Network before they got into you know, full time agreement with them for
All American in eighty three. Yep. Unbelievable. So there's a headlock takeover
in the head scissors, the crowd starts moving a bit of these exchanges.
Subdued crowd at this point is a Grilline says the referee looks like Tiger Jackson,
the midget wrestler. Patterson says, one of the smallest midgets he's ever
seen is Tiger Jackson. He is so funny. He'll be an action later.
But I mean, and and the way they talk to about about the
Dwarf wrestlers is just, oh my god, it's so it's so different time.
Yep, different time. It's like they're base, they're they're they're they're
all. They're. What they're saying right there, is that, Yeah,
the reason you're going to watch these people is because they're funny, because they're
because they're short, and they they look stupid. Well they work a style
designed to make you cackle and laugh at them. Right well, I mean,
you know, I I think that they're because they're doing these moves that
that you know, larger people do, and it's like, you know,
it just I hate to say it looks goofy, but it looks goofy,
and it's almost like, I know, I know that that's what they were
there for. I know that that was the time period, but it's kind
of like I wish they did stuff that was more maybe made them look better.
Yeah, story to Segrata Ground zero ninety seven. Yeah, get the
people go and realize these guys can do some remarkable things do there their size
differential, but girls as Tito is up for his match tonight, so they're
looking forward to that as well. I see title on the line. Yeah,
yeah, I would think that. I would think I'd look forward to
it, and then it happened that it happened. Push off Luis Rivera with
a tackle and a crossbody gets one lock up in a great arm trag by
Tony Gria As Monsoon says, he catches the other guy's momentum at just the
right time on those arm drags. Pat it's important because otherwise your opponent,
he explained to us, could come right down on you when you're executing the
arm drag and break your neck. That's very true. And I thought about
that. Yeah, And Patterson goes in and shares, how you know,
Tony Korea does the makes it look easy, Tony. It makes it look
so easy. How many times? And I've talked to kids, you know,
wrestling fans, and they feel, oh, I ma back into an
arm drag. It looks easy. It's not you. It's a lot of
things you think you can do sometimes. And you know, you watch a
ice capada, you watch any kind of artist sport, you know, well
I'll have to do is hit a ball. We don't try to do it
a ball. It's covering ninety miles an hour. Interesting. The first thing
he thought of it was the ice capades, I know, which is actually
very much closer to what pro wrestling is and than pro baseball. Yeah,
that's very true, it didn't say. Another tricky part of the arm drag
is what happens if your opponent doesn't do all of the work for you by
jumping in the air or pretending that he was taken over by your Yeah,
I know, they don't. You know, it's funny. They talk about
Tony Karea making it look easier than it is, but they don't talk about
Rivera making it look easier than He's the one that deserves the credit. A
couple of tackles, Korea goes back to the arm trag. Patterson says,
you watch the ice capage like he just played there. Rivera tries to slam
out of the arm bar of Tony Greia, but you better believe Garia holds
on and rolls on through. Then they say, mister Wonderful is with us
tonight. This will be the debut of Paula Worendorf in Madison Square Garden,
and they say he will be something to be reckoned with his first appearance here
tackle Sidestep would have thought, you know, given given the history that Orndorf
and Hogan would have, it's kind of amazing that that he debuts in the
same show Hogan wins the championships. They set it up, They set it
up for the comeback. Hogan's first MSGU title defenses Orndorf, and they have
I didn't know that, but I'm thinking later on. I'm not even thinking
about like right away. I'm thinking about later on, But well, I
didn't know that. Yeah, it was. It was kind of like a
deal where they brought Orndorf in in like mid to late eighty three, and
they they jobbed him out at first. You know, they used to do
the thing where you record someone losing to prove that they you know, wouldn't
wouldn't put up a fit about it, for one thing. But then also
you always have that tape in the vault to play. You don't play the
match of him losing, but you play it if he leaves the territory without
proper notice or if you just feel like he pissed you off. So that
was kind of Paul Orndorf in eighty three while he was in the company,
was still kind of getting an orientation to things in that regard. Yeah,
let's see it was uh January, let's see here, all right, So
he goes to Japan right after winning the title, as we talked about.
Now, let's see February. Pretty sure it's Orndorf. Let's let's doubly confirm
that. Okay, Saint Lewis taping, Saint Louis taping Boston, Philly,
New York City MSG yep. Hogan defeeds Orndorf by count out twelve to twenty
four, and then he rematches Chic in Pittsburgh, and then he faces masked
Superstar in Los Angeles. Then we go, so Hogan's on the road,
all right, So tackling a sidestep Luis verdaz An O'Connor roll for two.
When Tony Karia acts like he almost had me there, they replay it.
So they have replay capability here in eighty four. I'm listen, this is
I mean, I never remember them doing this at all. It like takes
over the whole screen. It's not a double feature picture, right, It's
not like a replay where you can see the live action. Like I just
don't recall them ever doing that on on shows before, Like they don't show
replays at the end of matches, right, show the highlights and stuff,
but not opening montage of the original coliseum videos right right, you know when
you get like replays of certain like kind of the big action, but never
never in the midst of a of a match that was like a that was
a mid nineties or early nineties thing that when they developed that. So I
was shocked. Yep, we get a bit of that, and Moncion says
he didn't lean back far enough, didn't arch that back far enough. Did
Luis Rivera on the O'Connor roll to get the victory? So that's that's a
demerit there. Ga Garia cartwheels away from Luis Rivera's monkey flip attempt and Patterson
notices that there's really no punching and kicking in this one. It's really a
scientific affair. As Patterson says, he I did see a lot of guys
in uh, you know, white lab coats at ringside science going on,
including George A. Horian. This is too like Hogan coming back in eighty
three. That's where he's gonna really, I'm sure he Knews a Horian in
eighty two and eighty one when he was in there. But let's not forget
that sweet spot where Hogan's back. Hogan is, Hogan's a Horrian, still
the guy they're still taping in Allentown, And yeah, that bond is formed
and he becomes his his primary care physician. We're we've got let me tell
you this at this right now is when it becomes Halloween every day because the
boys are getting their candle. Oh my god, you better believe it.
And yeah, we don't know a lot about how Jerrem mcdivo got Wholk Coogan
testifying in Zahrian's trial, where whereas Piper and everybody else had to But it
had something to do with the fact that Hogan had a bonafide patient relationship with
ZAHOI and where it wasn't just like ever example, these guys, he wasn't
their doctor. He just sent him roids in the mail. I'll say this,
We don't need to know why, correct or how. We don't need
to know how u McDivitt got Hogan out of testifying. We just need to
know that it happened, all right, and that archives if you're curious by
the way the Trial of George's Life. Yes, indeed, Patterson notices,
Yeah, like I said, no punching kiss Einfeld episode. I don't know
if we said that will mean it's probably Garia back down and backs down,
and Luisa Vera thinks, uh, he's going to drop kick the top of
his head, and it's kind of ugly because he just raises him. It's
actually, you know, I don't. I don't. It's one of the
mistakes that I did that. Actually I don't mind, because yeah, this
was back when they could handle an entering mistake. They would just react as
you would if someone miss trying to attack you, yep. Whereas now it's
like, oh my god, if we don't hit that spot, then I
forgot the next one. I only know them in order. I can't do
them in any other Not all the wrestlers are like that. There's some guys
that can, you know, call it just fine, but most of them
will bump on a miss drop kick. They will do it. You know,
I hate that's a shame. So Garia Snapmare for two Monsoon says,
well, he's not hooking the lig or anything. He's not gonna get in
there. I think I can hear someone tapping a pen on the desk during
the course of the broadcast. It hasn't been a gorilla's nervous tick. Maybe
I bet I'm goner whip reverse Luisa Vera to the middle rope comes flying off
with a cross body, but Gia slyly rolls through the crossbody on top of
Rivera for the one, the two, and yes the three. Tony Gia
defeats Jose Luis Rivera and the opening contest of this January twenty third, nineteen
eighty four shot at MSG six minutes forty six seconds. Ladies and gentlemen,
Patterson's very pleased with the technique on display there from Geria. And you gotta
love the bell sounding with no music. Guy just standing around after winning your
match. He just won, he won, And that said, his presence
is all you need. He doesn't throw his arms up. There's not a
big produced celebration. He just kind of walks around the rainlink. All right,
job well done, playing around with a waistband of his trunks. You
know a time of the Fall seven forty eight. I think they said sorry
with fucking weird shaped body. Awkward Australian one of the strange holdovers from you
know, the era where state athletic commissions would regulate wrestling like boxing is.
They're required to read out the time of the bout to the attendant, to
those in attendance, and there's a handshake between Rivera and Garia, and we
can see those fucking billboards and the rafters of the garden. Ah. Nothing
like a distant michelobe logo to get me in the right head space. I
know, I know, I mean, what happened. Well, now we
just need motion, we need we need scream. So you know, it's
just not that we need screen. That's right. I forgot. We gotta
have screen. We gotta have scream as well, ice cream, all of
that. So so yes, we then, for that matter, we need
green screen. We'll be back. And I think, by the way,
if you listen closely, I'm pretty sure you can hear Garrilla go shit,
you forgot something to come back. The Invaders are in light blue jackets with
navy masks. You know, I get that they're the I get that the
that the Invaders, you know, they're they're high flyers and stuff. But
I don't I don't think that it's a good I I really had a hard
time, you know, justifying the invaders because you think of invasion as a
forcible entry, which is like, that's not a thing that I like.
But we're supposed to cheer for the invaders. Just doesn't really work for me,
you know. That's what Trump would call him today, by the way.
Yeah, so they come out, there's the guy in the brown suit
that we always want to identify, parting the Kurt and leading the invaders to
the Ring of the garden. Mix of cheers and booz of course, a
lot of Puerto Rican fans and attendance. They vault over the top rope or
for Jeff bart Field presiding, and here we come their opponents. Bart That's
what they said. I don't know them, mister Fuji and Tiger Chung Lee.
Yes, holding the Japanese flag high from Osaka at two fifty three.
The Samuran, the samurai warrior. I've never heard mister Fuji called the samurai
warrior. I must not be paying close up attention. Totally a samurai,
he's studied samurai. Oh absolutely. Meanwhile, not waving the Japanese flag because
he's from Korea and Korea and they say that is Tiger Chung Lee with his
kendo stick. Shouldn't they hate each other? I mean, don't Korean see
Japanese hate each other thing? At least that's the way it was in Ricky
Dozan. Yeah, absolutely both in black robes. When they say the opponents
hail from perto Rico, that gets a pop. The invaders facing mister Fuji
and Tiger Chungley Patterson says the invaders will do a switch and get away with
it because they look so similar. So watch for that. We get our
ting ting ting once you rea cans look alike? Is that what he's saying?
If they have the same masks on guess, I guess that's truemall.
Yeah, fun fact, most people look the same if you put the same
masks on them. Monsoon does note that the number two is small though the
number one initially, but it's becoming more difficult as the weeks going. It's
weird that that happens with Monsoon, because you know, when I do number
two instead of number one, it's usually bigger than numbers. Gorilla can attest
to that he resembles that remark. As a matter of fact, indeed,
he definitely resembles the number two and the shit he took before going ringside to
call them his ritual five pm shit in the garden the New York Post.
Ye, it's usually about a forty five minute affair. Forty five minutes he's
in there, absolutely discussed, you know, just fucking it's that kind you
know, when you're in a public bathroom and you hear it and you're like,
oh, fuck, I gotta get out of you. We're gonna get
through this. Tom Arnold has fucking boss and powers. But yeah, you
know, there's like there're those it's social weird thing, like, there are
those people. There are those men who go to the bathroom and they just
fucking let loose with every fucking sound they can when they're sitting down, and
it's just like, like, just have the decency to wait for the guy
in the next doll to begin rustling and putting his belt on to let loose.
He let it out gradually, like you know, there's a way you
can control it to a degree, But man, there's some guys just want
to fucking you know what I do when I'm in a pinch boss in that
situation. Yes, I cough, that's good, I cough over my,
my shitting asshole. That's right, you're fucking you know, the the the
fucking cheek flapping, you know, I mean the cheap, the cheap flap.
The cheek flapping explodes like fucking Sea four coming out your as try to
say it's good ship now, good ship now. So it's becoming more difficult
to tell the difference between the Invaders. Must be talked to his horion at
work again god uh Fuji the ominous salt ceremony before the matchup, and Monsoon
says, I'm sure the first five rows of Ringside have had their quota of
salt for the next five months. Yeah, and that's before Fuji threw it
in the air. Uh. Everyone checked their cholesterol before you come. Absolutely
what rather blood sugar levels? Guerrilla we talk about that. So yes,
Tiger Chung Lee and Invader one lock up. That that's Jose Gonzalez, by
the way, the murderer of Blues. Chung Ley smiles after the lock up,
and Patterson says, you can't trust that smile. So that that's the
stereotype A live and well yeap uh. Invader one of the sun set flip
but the shoulder unhooked as a Monsoon points out, So it's a failed attempt.
Boss. What does Roberto Soto and thirty five pounds of Wendy's food have
in common? I don't know. They're both in Vader's number two. God,
I missed the opportunity to come up with shit like that. Oh my
god, hold on number two bathrooms Right there, sir, here's the keys.
I'm gonna call it stumble and cheese. I'm just gonna go ahead and
call a fire department. Now tagged to invader. Two quick tags over and
over. Makes no sense, they I mean, just to me, to
me this, actually, it seems like you would be counterproductive. They jump
over the rope, they tag, They jump over the rope right second passes
between tags, and like, to me, you're you're you're spending more gas
doing this then you would, if you know, you just kind of like
like nobody's resting during this moment. Everyone you just keep fucking jumping up and
down, back and forth. That's one of the biggest absurdities in wrestling that
like masks as guys knowing what they're doing is quick tags. It's so stupid.
It makes no fucking sense. What are you talking about? The guy
you quick tag did nothing like he didn't do anything right, right, So
why did it matter that he got in there fresh when he just left?
Also, you know what, I what I think would be a better idea
is you tag, you get your five seconds, right, do a double
team move, then tag again. You got another five seconds. Like that
to me would be make sense. Keep doing double team moves. But these
are just this is just stupid. Yeah, yeah, that's true. If
if if a guy's holding an arm and you come down in an arm,
that makes sense. Yeah, but that's still not a quick tag thing.
Like why did you need a fresh guy to twist the arm and leave and
then just come back? Why did the old Why does the guy who's not
fresh twist the arm, go in the airpron and come back in the ring?
What's the point of that? I mean, you know, you could
just do the double team in the five seconds you have without the tag,
can't you? Maybe maybe not, Maybe that's a decus, maybe that's a
Q. So, yeah, they do that, and Patterson says there's a
lot of times, uh, it's I don't know what. He says,
something about how that that's an advisable thing to do. They do it like
eight times, and they're leaping into the ring over the top, over and
over again, and they cut to Fuji totally nonplussed by this display by the
invaders. They're jumping off the mat like it's lava, you know, Like,
yeah, they're bouncing off of the thing, and Patterson assures us that
mister Fuji is indeed upset as grillhamnsoon calls Tiger Chung Lee chunger. As he
picks up in Vader two and two rolls out of the corner, he calls
him chunger several times. I didn't even hear that, and then I'm both
upset at myself from hearing me, but also I'm glad I didn't hear it.
Tact to Fuji, Patterson calls him one of the meanest men in wrestling.
This man lovesishment. Yeah, they I mean Gerrilla lifts off the devious
natures of of of mister Fuji, dangerous individual master of the martial arts.
Can hurt you so many ways. Some of them permanent, well that's what
he enjoys, so awesome, so goofy, so campy. Some of them
permanent, Okay, whatever that means. So you say, like he could.
He's gonna kill you, like that's what he means. Yeah, compromise
you to a permanent end, as John Cena once said about Osama bin Laden.
Yes, he's been compromised to a permanent what if fun? Does that
mean? Can his marine stance? He does? We can't say we killed
them. You're gonna say exactly what it was. He's been compromised. You
can't say. We can't say kill on on TVPG. You can't say hospital.
You definitely can't say killed medical facility. And I'll say this, say,
uh, someone bin Laden has been compromised, taken to a medical facility,
and uh, further compromise to a permanent nature. Right, and he
got his teeth knocked down his throat instead of saying he got punched. So
Fuji breaks a smile and a has a right hand and shot in right to
the gut. And I mean, could you tell which invader was which?
No? I had to rely on the announcers for the most gorilla. No,
I don't know. He's looking at some visual queue. I guess maybe
they got numbers on their boots. I like. And Fuji gets hit in
the gut with a right hand and somehow he sells getting punched in the stomach,
not by double doubling over, but flying in the air and taking a
flat back bump. Total decleading for a punch in the stomach. I see
no problem. Czars. Invader one jumps in and under the ring three times.
I guess to distract the ref. There's not even a double team going
on. He's going he's going into the ring, out of the ring,
in the ring, out of the ring, and no one is in his
half of the ring while he's doing this. He's he I don't like the
Invaders. It looks like when one of the WW video games glitches. Yes,
yes, number two ducks chopping a cross body one two in an arm
drag is Pat Patterson's lapffing his ass off at the pissed off look on mister
Fuji's face. I mean, Fuji's face is money. It always has been,
absolutely always has hair is frizzy during a match. Oh and like especially
here where he's got his this weird kind of you know, he's got this
this very very like just not like his hair is very it's very bad right
now. Okay, it's not healthy, No, it's not It's not a
healthy head of hair, that's true. Tiger Chungley gets the tag in and
there's a tag to Invader Wan to tackle the ropes by the way sagging like
hell, oh my god, they're so loose, mounting around like crazy.
When these guys hit the map, you know what to you know what.
I noticed this for for a match later on, but it kind of affects
the whole show. Just the sound of metal every every time they fucking move,
Like there's so much metal hitting metal under the ring. You know,
it's so awesome. It's like it's like it feels like they're on a fucking
rickety bridge fall apart at any moment. Yeah, it's made of it's made
of rusty metal. You know, it screws that haven't been screwed in all
the way. Yeah, like under there, it looks like a carnival ride
exactly. Like it's just safe, like exactly. You know, I get
that you checked it last week, but did you really check it. I'm
looking at the guy who checked it and it was the same sweatpants he's been
wearing all week. So a quick arm drag by number two. By the
way, you were convinced these guys knew what they were doing, even though
everything they did was ludicrous. I know that was magical to me. That
is that is the thing, like you know because I'll tell you what it's
because the announcers said that. Yes, announcers would say they know what they're
doing. And so you believe it because and they said it in a steady
tone of voice. They didn't sound like they're trying to sell you something.
And because back then it was like they had credibility. The announcers had credible
and so you believe them. Such a key thing. That's amazing because now
they're reading ad copy and they're worried about time cues and and you know,
they do what they have to do in the job today, but it's like
they're like cheerleaders and they're sort of like they're there to add it like energy
to the broadcast when it's not necessarily happening in the ring. They they need
to provide it in a different way, like they they need to be that
extra element that you know, it's like it's great to be in a match,
to be at a wrestling event live, of course, but you lose,
you're supposed to lose something because you don't hear the commentators. You know
you need that team to sell it. You know, so many, so
many matches, what was it? It was a yeah, Wrestling at thirteen
And I didn't even know it until we went through it because that when we
after we went through Wrestling at thirteen, I had heard Brett on Austin's podcast
back then, and Brett and Austin talked about how important Vince Lawler and Jr.
Were to make that match great. Yes, of course, and it's
like and then we did it when we did the Journey. I remember going
hearing it and like, holy shit, they really do like that, they
really make it, they take it to that next level, and it's not
like that anymore. I mean, and again it really comes down to credibility
and no one fucking believes you know, when they started doing I think when
I mean, it all happened when when they get rid of JR. When
you get rid of JR. And you put Michael Cole in his place,
who really at that time nobody, nobody liked and nobody you know, he
couldn't match JR. It's just like they spent years trying to find someone for
that seat. Yep, and it's just like you it didn't officially groom someone
to be that guy, and so you don't have they have, They have
yet to build back that credibility. And there is no one really left of
the vintage that had those instincts, the pre Vince instincts. There is,
but there's there is a dearth of people you could bring in that learned wrestling
announcing in a territorial system where being able to present it as credible was job
number one. And while Jr. You know, morphed himself beautifully to satisfy
what the Monday Night Wars called for in terms of enthusiasm on the headset,
he still knew when to sprinkle in that Gordon Soley level of the leveling the
call, you know, the the the tenor of the call, right,
And yeah, that's why we love him. And that's why it doesn't seemly
anyone's done anywhere near as well as he has, right, because no one
has that has I don't think anyone has that bag of instincts to dip into
when it comes to like, all right now, any switch gears. Now,
I'm not selling anything, now, I am commentating. You know,
So he go to a boxing show like for Better or worse like until the
main events in the ring, everyone's acting bored out of their mind. The
announcers, the judges, the fans even in something. I mean there's they're
watching the action, but it's just sort of like there's like a quiet buzz
of like, Okay, we're all here, we're underway. Actions happening,
sports as are happening, and maybe one day this kid will be something.
But it's not like we have to speak. It's not like it's on the
announcers to make things sound energetic. It either is or it isn't. Yeah,
so they're a pretty ugly headlock takeover tempt by Invader number one as Tiger
Chungley doesn't really budge and backs off like he dodged something. Instead, mister
Fuji chokes number one the tag rope from the apron Number one, not even
trying to grab with his hands to bry it off, just standing there with
his hands by his side with a rope around his neck. Ceesus Christ Fuji
comes up with the hayak chop and a body slam, then does his headbut
falling to the crotch of Invader number one and he bows with the face you
know the face, they get that tight shote. You can see it right
now. Ah, the head is slightly tilted, you know. Ah,
my yocal fua. That's exactly correct. By But by the way, Ringside
all adults. So while Vince's policy is about to be implemented, it hadn't.
I think it just had happened. It was in the Observer that we
read from like April eighty three that Vince was instituting the clear out the Ringsiders
policy. No we need to have children. We don't. We're not going
to have these fucking grandma's anymore. Right, It's all like thirty forty year
old guys. For the most part, we were I'm tired of having the
grandma's right, right, I need to have drinking beers, you know.
Yeah, yet listen, I'm not going to have you know, Grandma Ethel
sitting you know, ringside, waiting for Brunos San Martino to come out.
Oh, by the way, the exit sign on the hard camera side for
your comfort, Yes, oh, on that hard camera. Tiger Tunnley shoots
him, shoots in a sidekick. Grill Monson says, it helps to know
the difference between a bristlock and a wristwatch when You're the referee backdrop by Tiger
Chun Lee. He covers for two and like I said that, Matt also
has kind of a low boom sound to it in addition to the rattle,
like a low yes yes. Fuji with the Trapeziess hold one of his favorites.
It's one of those that it's one of those where's like, I you
know, I know, I know what's it's like, this hurts. This
actually really does hurt because it's not the kind of ring that you you know,
it's not a fucking Jim matt All. You probably better off getting slammed
on concrete. Fuji suplex is invader nicely and a second tries blocked and number
one scores with the suplex of his own. Monsoon says, the suplex is
so dangerous. If you don't time it right in that instance and you turn
your man loose, you get the worst of it. So every move wrestlers
do apparently can backfire on you, which is pretty cool psychology. Yeah,
I don't mind it, but you should. I mean, you know,
I think that that that actually makes every move seem a little more uh uh
again credible. Yeah, you know It's like, yeah, that would be
nice if Seth hurt himself on a top rope superplex in a falcon arrow one
time. Instead of always being a clean execution that hurts the other guy.
I would love it if he hurt himself and didn't come back to stuff.
Fuji goes off top and he's launched Gorilla press slams, and then Inventter number
two comes in a house of fire. Tiger Chunk Lee goes inside out of
the corner. He's a regular raced evens out there hell on wheels. Was
Tiger Chung Lee who in the play for you when he was doing the uh
uh the trapezius hold. This is what they they bring. Patterson brings up
the subject of masks. Now we're talking about masks. You know, you
know they always called you gorilla. Yes, let's let's start a fight now,
Fuji going to work. Look at those fingers digging in there. I
know you were always happen when somebody ended you a banana, You got that
right. I had a lot of them thrown at me over the years.
Right here Madison Square Garden. I got a hold off on that. Yeah,
but that no, But we're talking about the ones that were thrown at
you, Gorilla, No one one's waiting for you in the dressing room,
the ones that you caught and ate either such weird sense of humor between those
two so so weird. Uh So Number two keeps cooking irish whipping a backdrop,
and then Tiger Chung Lee comes alive with a side of supplex and absolutely
drops in Vader two on his fucking head like it's my god, all of
a sudden, it's correct one hall, but that only gets a one count.
Gorilla says that would that could terminate your career right there? Throw it
at your contract exactly, And he's not talking about the move, we realize
Gorilla is pointing to Vince Junior when he says that, ah, would you
with the gut brand Suplex gets too? Is Number one makes the safe?
Number one does it again and leaps over the ropes and then right back onto
the apron, over and over again they do before that when when after that
move they uh. At some point the food and and Chungley are are posing
and Gorilla is not not a fan of that. The Claus come at home
in the living room when you're watching the replay. Okay, thanks gorilla,
would you with a nerve hold on? Number one on the hop gets chopped
down by Fuji so On pat Patterson's were splendent, crunchy brown blonde hair visible
in the foreground at the bottom of your screen. Oh my god, you
know you can't hof was it's it's that it's that blonde that you hair spray.
You're well, and you're kind of like, is it is it yellow?
Because he's been around so many cigarettes, right, it is it naturally
that blonde? That color? Is that gross color? Lots of weird smells
in Thereva Or two breaks free from a bear hug and tries to make a
tag but doesn't make it, as Monsoon says, it's, you know,
tough peripheral vision and it's tough to breathe with a mask on. And Monsoon
said he's glad he never had to, uh, you know where a mask
and get used to that. He thinks it'd be difficult for him, and
Patterson says he never had to hide my beautiful face. But there we go,
Fuji doing a nerve hold and it looks like he's actually doing it Invader
two's lower back. They sneak at tag in a Fuji, Monsoon says,
did you expect him to say he's here? He? Oh, yeah,
okay, So the ref confronts Fuji for you know, like a sneaky tack
where the ref is suspecting that it's the guy's entering illegally, and Monsoon says,
did you expect him to say I'm here illegally? Well, gorilla depends
what you mean. So Patterson says he knows he was always happy with the
banana thing. Yep, tremendous kidney area beating grilla, Monsoon tells us by
actually was saying with tremendous kidney beans is what he was saying. Camera number
five picking up the close up of Fuji grabbing number two's love handles a month
Soon tells us grabbing his fucking plantain. Invader in one Invader one in with
chops and a drop kick. Fuji takes a pump and makes a tag Irish
whip in a chop and Tiger Chung Lee no sells and smiles through it is
there's a corner to corner Irish whip and Vader Number one hits the buckle middle
rope leaps into a cross body on Tiger Chung Lee, who catches him and
drops him with the Manhattan drop. Fuji Yes holding the tag rope, turns
to the crowd and bows and smiles looking for applause reference. Distracted by Invader
number two and they double team the invader Irish Whip number one ducks dropkick,
floors Tiger Chung Lee corner to corner. He misses the splash in the corner
and collapses. Does Invader number one. There's a cover, but it only
gets one tagged to Invader number two. No pop whatsoever. A lot of
these fucking one counts in this show. I know I've noticed in this match,
in particular with on a dropkick and a jackknife cradle nothing. These guys
continue kicking out. At one Invader number one comes in sits down. It's
probably because they are calling spots and they confuse. Yet one with number one.
Number one comes in, sits down to the knee of Tiger Chung Lee's
number one, who holds it in place. Quick tags back and forth.
He splashes the leg of Tiger Chung Lee. Another tag. The crowd's up,
so they do it again, and they do it again. The crowd's
kind of getting into them splashing Tiger Chung's legs Lee over Tiger Chung Lee's leg
over and over again. It's so stupid and it looks like they go for
the spinning toe hold, but Tiger Chunley kicks off. He comes up limping
number two with an ankle pick and grape lines the leg. Fuji comes into
the leg dive and they do the same thing to Fuji's like, all right,
they do the same fucking thing they do is splashing, working the legs
with the fucking you know what, I'll tell you what. The last thing
I'd want to do is use my belly on a fucking knee. Right.
Hurt, hurt my stomach. I've knocked the right out of myself. So
an abominal stretch applied by Invader number one on mister Fuji. As pat Patterson
tells his Fuji OANs a lot of rice fields in Japan. Oh yeah here
listen. Yeah, because he's a wealthy guy, very well good man in
Japan holds a lot of rice field and has a lot of people working for
him. Did I have the bell ring? Yeah? Maybe a rice field.
That's the Patterson lost in translation where he takes plural words and makes them
singular and takes plural words and does the first vice versa. And then Tiger
chung Ley gets in and almost gets abdominal stretched in his own right. Gril
Monsoon, though criticizing if he hasn't hooked as he locks it out. And
now Gril Monsoon calls him mister Chunger. Oh god, mister Chunger, Miss
Chunger, a boss, get rid of the sea. And you've got a
name for Vader too. Also you've also got a name for what Gorilla is
feeling. Right now, Fuji comes in blind sides in Vader one with the
referee distracted, and you better believe Gridle Monsoon calls it a what yeh?
What do they call him? Pearl harbor? Job, pearl harbor? Right
right, Vader one slides under the leg and makes the tag. Monsoon says.
The ref is asking Fuji something. Maybe he's where do you get your
soy sauce or something, because he don't always go on like oh uh oh,
Gorilla, that's you asking the question. I know it's because you got
sushi on your fucking plate right now, not thinking about tomorrow's dinner. I
can't, I can't, it's so fat. Did you have what Gorilla mon
Soon said last night on wrestling, He should about mister Fuji, where'd you
get your soy sauce? Oh? Ship, guys in hard hats recap the
msg ship right, and we should you know, we should do guys,
we should go to the garden next month, all right, and we'll ask
mister Fuji whever soy sauce is pretty much awesome? Like that's like Steve Austin
in the sportatorium. Hey, hey, Fuji, where'd you get your damn
soy sauce? On? Fresh out of college having a beer with his buddy
from the long Shoreman's Union. Remember the fuck he was doing, laughing at
his own joke with his You know that that big gaping left. So yes,
they don't have it hooked properly. Of course, they don't have it
hooked properly. The commonal stretch, they say, Tito Santana, we do
it perfectly with his long legs and arms. Oh my god, So that's
what you know. Apparently to do a proper abdominal stretch you need to have
long legs and arms. These arms and legs are too short for that kind
of hold, they say. Pier four brawl breaks out, double whip into
each other. Go Tiger Chungley and mister Fuji do a big pop. They
do kind of that rowboat submission where you kind of grab the legs and make
like a star and row them on the on the on the mat. They
do the bell sounds and everyone's cheering, and Monsoon says, do we have
a disqualification? The time ran out for? What? What he is qualified
for? Ref's just looking at the invaders sitting on the mat holding the legs
of their opponents, and they both jump up in the air like frogs for
some reason. There's the guy in the sweater again not identified, and twenty
minute time limit has expired. It's not a submission. In fact, this
match ruled a draw. Who the fuck? No, actually, you know
what, the dog and drew this crowd. It was not a draw at
all. What fucking what? Who said that this should go twenty minutes?
I don't know, man, I don't know what the psychology would have been,
so like, oh, this this match was so lethargic and so dreadful.
I think it was that bad geezh. I hated it. I hate
I was so fucking bored. They were on the move the whole time,
the only Yeah, but I didn't care. Well, yeah, that's that's
true. And so it just was so fucking dull for me, and I'm
like, okay, can we get you know, I was like, can
we get to like the next match and stuff, because I just did not
care about this one at all and I thought it was just so dull,
even though they're doing all this weird wacky jumping, flip and flopping shit.
Break about they do a break that come back strong Bow and mass Superstar are
in the ring and then they go to break again. They would do this
a lot where they would just come back for like ten seconds and then go
to another break. Right, it's so weird that they would do that.
I never really I didn't get it, Like, why bother coming back?
Just do an extra long fucking commercial break. Yeah, that just happened a
lot with live TV shows. It happens with football too. You know.
They come back and they showed like two minutes of things, they go to
another break. There must be like a consideration for hitting the exact top of
the hour or something. Depends though, it depends on what it is.
Though. It's like, you know, they do do that sometimes, but
usually there's like a an on like an on field reason that it happened,
Like it's never usually just like we don't. They don't ever come back and
like, hey we're back and way back again. No, not with the
game going on. But you wonder why they even come back if nothing is
worth broadcasting yet you know that's what's kind of weird, right, So they
go to it, they put the graphic up and ding ding ding, So
it's Mass Superstar versus Chief j Strongbow. But of course, as we talked
about in Part one, very interesting time for Mass Superstar Bill Eity at this
point having been in consideration potentially to be the transitional champion between Backman and Hulk
Cogan instead of the Iron Cheek and here because you imagine, I don't think
I really contemplated this, but Demolition Acts being former world champion, well yeah,
I mean he probably never would have become Demolition Acts if he had a
WWF title run. True, although then again the Iron Cheeks he could become
a tag team wrestler, tight team champion, absolutely true, absolutely true.
And so here is a Billity. He's speaking to James Romero on the Wrestling
shoot interviews YouTube page about what he heard about his name being in the mix.
The story that I got was that I didn't have the amateur background,
therefore someone who had an amateur background had to beat him. M So,
I mean, it is professional wrestling, it's not amateur wrestling. So that's
what I was told. But that was that was brought up, yes,
by Vince Senior. And then it was told that the individual that was involved
in it didn't want to lose as somebody who didn't have an amateur background.
So this centers the chic individual that was involved in it. It's a lot
easier to just say Bob Backland Bill, I don't know what that's about it.
Well, you know, I'll tell you. He's sounding. He sounds
creepily like like Dory Funk Jr. Yeah, he does similar vocal quality.
So we have Jay Strongbow. He looks like such a hack at this point,
Oh my, such a lackey allowed to still go out there in trunks.
What I mean he singlet just embarrassing. It's embarrassing to see this this
what is he like fifty at this point, He's a fucking what a loser.
This fucking guy red mask on the mass Superstar and here's this is what
h Gorilla. Well, here's Gorilla talking about Chief j Strongbow and how exciting
this match is going to be. Just another excited match here at Madison Square
Garden on this all star jam pack car, topel rings and we're underway.
Chief really got his work cut out long tonight. But boy, he could
take anybody on any given at night. Guaranteed He's got the speed, the
agility and not hard and to know how and rings savvy, which is so
important. It was like these guys were trying to pop themselves with these Seriously,
he's Vince Senior like lieutenants that were allowed to have jobs, you know,
right, They're just trying to like talk about mister fucking you know,
Grandpa's strong Bow out. You know who can do all who has all the
agility and the fucking the tomahawk logo and his purple singlet know how and wherewithal
and right and uh barbausol And that's good. Monthson says, you were looking
at years of experience on that face of Strongbow, the troubles of the world
that'sed on the face of the troubles of the fans, the face of j
Strongbow, Kay strong Bow looking like a Simpson's character in real life really is
Oh my god, it kind of looks like that. There's that sad,
drunken most turn there. Who's the easiest pro wrestler to drop for the Simpsons
chief J Strongbow Ja strongbow exactly. We see Patterson take off his headset for
some reason. There must be some technical difficulties as a strong boo goes to
the headlock tackle and another headlock. Patterson back on the air now is a
strong bow with a baseball slide underneath the legs of mass Superstar. See that
was impressive for an old man of that age. I'm how old? Can
I figure how old he actually was? Because I take a look he I'm
sure he's not his his prime was this mid seventies, so yeah, but
he looked I mean, he looks ancient at this point. He really does,
you know, like his body is just all wrinkled and disheveled and shit.
Kinda I kind of like the idea. I'd like these guys due to
loyalty and due to their proximity of the territory getting booked in the garden,
even though when they go home they look like every other slob at the VFW.
But they still, you know, every Saturday, once a month,
they still can get in the the oldsmobile and motor up and drive to the
biggest arena in the world and get that rush one more time from the crowd
because they don't care what he looks like. He's Chief J Strongbow. You
know, fifty six was almost funny that he's yeah fat, you know,
right, fifty years old, Chief J Strongbow. At this point, I
would that's older than I would have guessed actually from Nutley, New Jersey.
Right, So Patterson guarantees a Jay strong Bow will go for that mask,
try to rip it off Superstar Mass Superstar drops down to a cradle for the
one too. J Strongbow's breast is popping out, his tit is showing his
tit, Chief J Strongbow having a wardrobe. Malfund. Patterson says, he's
won eck of a wrestler, take that h out eck of a wrestler of
a wrestler. And then a Mass Superstar gets free and ducks ducks under the
rope like a coward, and Patterson says, thousands of people ask him who
is under that mask? Here? Here? I got this one for you,
because this is just fucking amazing. I would love to see the mask
come off you and about twenty three thousand others here tonight. There's thousands and
thousands of people that ask me all the time, who do you think the
mask superstyle? I guess this is good of anyone. I don't know.
I could guess a lot of things, but guessing is not telling the truth.
I thought I knew it one time, but I was way out trauma
off the most pass. What the fuck is going on? What the fuck
it? I don't know who it is, but I thought I knew one
time, and I knew that was wrong. It doesn't even say we thought
it was. This is fucking it's so embarrassed to say that's right here.
It keeps, it gets better. It's the big chop o, big one
of us. All right. Back to the side headlock. They tell me
that when he's in the locker room after a match, he will turn his
back to whivers around him, the mask off real fast and put him into
a mask on and going to Charlotte. Winter's got a very light one that
he wears. Yep, like a cheese cloth type thing goes Gorilla dad a
cheesecloth off type thing. Oh my god, was he with Pat Patterson?
Know what mass superstar does in the shower. Anyway, Gorilla goes, oh,
and that reminds me, I gotta go tick out my I gotta go
look at my cheddar. Yeah, count it with a visor on. Count
the cheddar. Well, I'm eating cheddar. Oh my god, truly amazing.
Fucking Gorilla Monson sitting in this dark fucking room, all right, with
one overhead light. He's counting money. He's counting cheddar, and he's slicing
cheddar and putting on a rich cracker. All right, he counts cheddar,
he slices cheddar. Gino Morella tremendous. Cant wait for the Brian Solomon book.
By the way, the guy who book is going to do a monsoon
one, and he's he's been putting out some quotes from like Gorilla's wife.
Oh oh much, man, I can't wait. Oh god, he loves
that gobba gul sandwich. I thought gobble gobba goole sandwich. All right,
there's an over the shoulder shot of a photographer and we're getting that international coverage,
we're told, and rightly so it's a big night, of course.
And then uh, let's see Chief day Strongbow drops mass Superstar with a chop
and grabs for the mask. They like that in the bill. But masked
Superstar slips under the rope. One of the Commissioner's springs right out of his
seat because he thinks it's about to get Harry down there. Yeah right,
And what a look at that MSG floor all brown? Oh my god,
it's so gross. No pretense there, baby, that's just the floor that
is just you know, there is God, every every substance known to man.
Eighty four Are you kidding me? I've been soaked into that cement floor.
Just let's just start with cigarette ashes, right, Oh, absolutely in
the garden in eighty four because I don't see anyone smoking him. Maybe you
couldn't. I'm probably not. I don't know, like were they. I
don't know what the The whole idea of smoky arena is, right right anyway?
Maybe maybe that was why Vince used to say derogatorily that the other organizations
ran in smoke field arena is because they didn't allow smoking a MSG. So
Patterson says he's got a right to be hot, so why should he be
able to go for a mask. He's he's basically sticking up from Superstar here
and that you know, there's no real basis for Ja Strongbow to be attacking
the mask of the man he says. You know, for example, he's
not gonna pull uh, Mass Superstar isn't gonna pull Jay Strongbow's tights off.
Unfortunately he doesn't say that. Then Mass Superstar barks and you can hear Id's
voice. You know, yeah, that sounds like that sounds like act saying
I'm gonna break your neck. And then Strongbow doing the war dance with his
stupid shaped head, and they're with it in the crowd. They like it.
They like the war dance. Thank you, uh Italian chief Ja Strongbow
for doing war dance. Arpa is fresh from pulling slots for six hours,
that's right, and he's his his wife's back home making some real cutlets.
I do kind of like red sauce dinners in Jersey. After regarding the show,
you know, that's a Monday night. When he comes home. What
he wants, you know, his wife's in bed, but you know what
he demands is that when he comes home, he's got you know, he's
got a veal cutlet some some some linguini with marinara, you know, homemade
marinara, and some garlic bread you know that he can reheat for quickly in
the oven. It wants, all right, like garlic bread, beer,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, exactly. He
loves his schlitz and uh and uh you know, and then also you know
he likes to eat just some some raw tomatoes too. I don't understand why
people have n't figured out by now that the laps fan is about what the
kitchen looks like after the matches, That's what it's about. Or getting food
in the hotel room. I want to know, right, I want to
know exactly. I want to know what. I want to imagine what these
guys eat when they get home. Okay, the most important part, so
good, the most important party, you know, like Vince going to Jimmy
Weston or whatever it was. Yeah, I mean it's tremendous. You know,
Kevin Nash going to Peter Luger's first go up to sushi and like you
know, Shinjuku, Oh fucking went to Peter Lugers. You know, on
sat down you got a fucking h New York strip. Yeah, I'll figure
one in Rome. You know, I'm digging into this. One of the
best stakes I've ever had. I look up and what's right there picture James
Kahn. Yeah, like this is life, you know, that's what it
is. The crowds with it. As the war dance kicks off, boots
caught kick lift by Chief Day, strong Bow drops the mask, Superstar Strongbo
goes for the mask again. Uh as Superstar elbows the ribs to get out
of that predicament. And now he's slugging away at Strongbow and Strongbow doing the
Warriors. He's doing that Indian blood getting the hot. They say on commentary,
it's basically you know the original hulking up here. Yeah, from Chief
j chops a knee, a whip, and a sleeper is applied to a
big pop by Strongbow. At this point, mass Superstar drops to his knees,
push off Larryet and Strongbow being pro he is in stet of flat backing.
He just turns around like you would wrestling your brother in the living room
and falls down him on the mat. Right, So, yeah, works,
what a clothes line. He caught him with cover one, two three,
and it's over. Just like that he hit him in the esophagus area.
We're told Mass Superstar pins the other tribal chief. I'll tell you for
someone in consideration to be the transitional WWF World Champion, he certainly got his
ass beat until he hit one move in this one seven to twenty six,
Mass Superstar defeats Chief Cha Strongbow, and Strongbow's out of the ring, headed
in the wrong direction, doesn't know where he is, they say. And
I personally want to identify every single person at ringside, of course, who
they know, are, when they how often they came, what their story
is, to know all the details and need to know again, I want
to know what they would usually eat when they came home from from the well,
they're probably the side, but they might have. They might have,
but you know, you never know. Maybe they went home and they had
like uh, you know, they maybe maybe every Sunday they make like uh,
I don't know, fried chicken or something, and that's there. That's
there, you know, late night Monday snack when they come home from the
matches, take a break, we come back. There's a free s frame
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Putsky is he's next on our television screens. We cut to the back and
there is still he old sergeant Slaughter, yes, but looking like he's looking
like his g I Joe figure more than he ever has. Oh yeah,
yeah, he's a drill sergeant man he he uh. You know the other
matches that I've seen from this era usually is wearing that fucking white T shirt
looking like a fucking idiot, right, But here he actually looks like and
he's and he's he's not as fat as he would be by the end of
the decade, So he looks really much a lot like his his g I
Joe figure. Yeah, you can see where they drew the inspiration from.
He comes after the Marine Corps him even though he was still a heel and
man those blue brick walls backstage that you'd kept at MSG, I wish where
those were. I mean, I guess I know where they were, but
like to know the exact spot where those right where those were gidden blesses himself
before getting slapped back by Vince Senior, like, I don't know where I
don't know where that entrance was. Yeah, you know, I loved one
of my favorite things was because you know, those back hallways were were things
that they didn't renovate when they did all that big stuff, you know,
whenever, like a decade ago, and so a lot of those those wings
that aren't open to the public are all just still older, and they had
like older posters and stuff like that on the walls. Amazing. So we
get a low angle shot looking up at Slaughter making his way to the ring
of produced entrance. Here for for the sergeant whistle hanging out of his mouth,
tough ombre, we're told from the US Marine Corps. You know,
he's the drill sergeant from Full Metal Jacket. So he right, he's well
full Miller Jacket hadn't come out yet, what oh eighty seven. Where did
they get this character from, Oh, Gomer Pyle. Yeah, maybe it
was Gomer Pile. Maybe that's the big insult. No. I was thought,
okay, that really fucks in my mind then, because I always wondered
why they would make a US Marine Corps drill sergeant a heel, Like,
to me, that's like a babyface. Yeah. Yeah, he's a hard
ass, But I don't understand why he'd be a heel out of the gate.
I mean, I guess Slaughter indicates he's kind of a abuse of power
kind of commandant. But yeah, I don't know. I wonder how that
all came about. That's a very interesting point. Yeah, so Monsoon says
that they have some signs or putski some for Gomer Pile. That was the
big taunting chant to Slaughter at the time. Of course, Ruffy Jack Lutz
presiding twenty minute time limit two hundred and ninety six pounds from South Carolina,
Sergeant sla Her and he's got the brown stash with the brown hat. M.
They comment on the protruding chin, hilarious shot of the ref on laughter
glasses, Oh his reflection, like he reflects off his glasses like it's actually
cool shot. And yeah, just said laughters, I forgot the S.
So there we go water slought. Oh my god, oh my god,
it is slot, like, well take the S out of slots. And
yeah, once we found out how long he actually served in the military,
yeah, exactly laughter, he is sergeant laughter here. But they do you
know, I noticed from the beginning of the match, like when Putsky comes
in, like he's just so fucking small. Now yeah, then when he
was in like in like the set, I remember, like the the Bruno
shows that watch, and how fucking massive he is. Because I think of
this, and even later I think of even like the like eighty six uh
Putsky, who was just like almost tiny, you know, with bit muscular
but tiny. But it's just like he's just so fucking small. And they
even bring up that, you know he was he was a fatty and he
lost weight. I guess here they are. I haven't Putsky certainly looks it
trim shape and ready for this batchup. Can you remember back pat five or
six years ago when I haven't Putsky first came to the World Wrestling Federation to
weighed some three hundred pounds. Oh, he was huge. Look at the
reflection, beautiful camera work there in the glasses of sergeants water. Yeah.
At one time Putsky weighed over three pounds. And for him to lose that
much weight and you look that great, that's a lot of work, a
lot of determination, a lot of determination. They love, they love commenting
on loss of size is like a totally cool thing, and it probably was
for him. I mean, it probably did start to make sense to him
down a little bit. That's a lot of bulk to carry around. It's
gonna kill you, man. But he was a powerlifter though. It wasn't
like he was like fat, clearly he was yeah, yeah, right.
I think he's probably one of the first guys to go whole hog on the
juice in New York. I look at him, and look at fucking j
Strongbow, you know, I know, I know, take your pick,
Well, what what career path do you want to travel? You know,
and and and he's also so you know, I was looking at him like
he's so fucking short. He looks like, but he's actually my height Putsky
height. But it was I guess I never realized how fucking huge Slaughter is,
big big man, so tall. Yeah he was. He was tantamountam
Hogan is ridiculously tall, and they were pretty much eye to eye. Yeah
true. I never really you know, I never really put that together.
So the bell sounds and Putsky's going totally nuts, like he's swatting flies with
his punches and slots, pokes him in the eye and retreats to the apron,
and you have Ivan Putsky fighting like there's something wrong with him. Slaughter
stops and flexes and his arm and sells that his arm hurts to even flex
because of all the damage h Putski with his sinewy flex job that he does.
Monsion says, you don't get that way waiting for the bus, And
I said, what what? Yeah, no, I mean he makes a
very good point. I'm surprised you're waiting for the bus to get to the
gym. Well maybe, but you can still don't get that way by waiting.
Proper diet is so important to look like that. And Patterson's got the
recipe, doesn't he? Oh oh my god, if you wanted to know
that it was all about food, here, listen to this Buttski. At
one time we'll sit there and he'll eat a dozen raw eggs, raw onions,
raw onion. Why this is Monday night, raw onion. One thing
he likes to eat is rock garlic. Oh unfortunately, I could attest to
that. Oh yeah, a lot of time, you could be a model.
Way you smell garlic is the outputsk must be here on the corner somewhere
interesting. So raw eggs, I'm with him. I'm with him on that.
I get it, you know, I know that straight protein, you
know, but raw onion, like what are you eating like an apple?
Like just sucking chomping it? Like what cook it? Like it? Like
it did not make you ripped to cook it? Could you put in a
salad? Like? What are you get a raw onion for? You know?
And what are you eating raw garlic? I mean, I know garlic's
supposed to be good for you and stuff, and it is, but like
what the fuck? Like? Oh so gross? And there's when they're busting
your balls and WWF and the Sarah on commentaries, because you're like a constant,
you know, You're like a guy they see every time, and he's
always right, and he's fucking he always got comes to the locker room.
He's got a carton of eggs, he's got you know, a beige uh
grocery store bag of of fucking onions. And then and then like a you
know, a bulb of garlic as well. He fucking walks into the into
the locker room with his ship. They didn't mention Colbasa, which is suspect
to say the least. So Patterson says, Ivan, what about the pigs
and the you know and guonkies? Yeah? Yeah, come on, man,
where's all the good stuff with Hordish? Patterson says, Ivan Putsky really
explodes when he gets hot. He said it, he said it a couple
uh, Larry, Oh my god, he explodes. To be clear,
Time Life, Time, Live, Hed Time. Last Fan presents a compilation
for the Ages wrestlers coming Ivan Putski exactly. That would be my first guess.
It sounds exactly like him. How do you come in a Polish accent?
I guess that's the question, isn't it. I'm trying to think of
any fucking polish words. I'm just kidding, he says, barogi. Okay,
all right, does the Mexican say taco? What the fuck does a
does? Gender? Mahaal scream tiki massala as he empties out his fucking tear.
Fucking think a fucking hose gender Mahal fucking I was gonna sathing bad but
anyway, okay, lock ups and breaks between Putskin slaughter lock up. Putsky
shoves him out of the corner and catches him charging up with a big slam.
Putsky grabs his side lock and cranks the I'll give him me the scoop
slam. That was a good slam by by Oh yeah, good power moves
on display Ski. They called him perk Ski almost did Patterson. That would
be Scott Putsky. H Putsky grabs a side headlock and cranks. Gives him
a chance to flex the chest or he smart hold for him to incorporate.
Indeed. Putsky then screams polish power out to the people. M We mentioned
the keel before, didn't we? Putsky did several main events of the Kill
bossa auditorium so much uh sour crowd, Oh yes, yes, just tons
of you know, and smoked meats, all right, very very very smoke
ship all right. So Patterson says, Putsky has a beer every now and
then. It loves to sing. Let's go to use lifestyle profile here living
Putsky seriously. One of his favorite hobbies is to row down the river sick.
Did you know? Gola? One of his favorite hobby rowing. He
loves the rowing, loves the row. Which row? Which row is that?
Bear? Patterson? Which row is it? Fifth row? Sixth row?
What is it? Sold to the rafters? What is it? And
he says he loves to sing as well. Yeah, so uh push off
over the top and they collide and Slaughter with a tremendous head over heels pump.
He hits the canvas, back flips and ends up through the ropes on
the floor. I tell you, can I tell you something that I realized
watching this bumps we I don't think Sergeant Slaughter got nearly enough credit for for
his bumps. He absolutely interested on spectacular bumps. He like, he does
so many of his trademark bumps in this match, and he's just he's spectacular,
that's correct. Like this is a big guy who who who who does
very very agile maneuvers, like selling moves. It's really incredible, and I
don't think he got nearly enough credit for that. He used to like land
them his back, do a backflip and have his feet go through the bottom
and middle rope right and he on the floor on his feet right and like
and this he does the two things, the two bumps that I love when
he goes into the corner and he bounces back. And there's the other one
at the end of the match where he fucking does the same thing, runs
you know, body first into the buckles and he he goes out of the
ring slaughter, seriously wonderful. Cut to a guy with the old man hat
and the crowd just watching the jacks. That's a newsboy from the nineteen twenties
and never got outed. So the fuck this boy fucking he's ready to as
soon as as soon as the matches of the rover, he's got to go
on shift. Talking about the twenty two twenty three inch biceps of Ivan Putsky
can't be twenty four now that HULLL. Cogan's in the territory. Yeah,
I respect you, mister Putsky, but when you say your brother, I'm
the only one who got twenty four inch pythons? Dude? What's up of
the circum versions? Dude? You know what? What's up with a sir
kizzle? Dude? Right? All right? I think we've got to talk
about the idea of the k fabe language, Terry, is that we can
understand what you're saying. You just add is to it. You can't just
say circumference is, sir kizzle. That doesn't get me there? Well,
brother, I mean, if you can't, But I guess here's the thing,
dude, If you can't get there, maybe it's your fault. Right,
Maybe she just wasn't meant bey. Maybe this place isn't big enough for
the both of us. Maybe maybe Brother, that that hulk Hogan is is
the champ. Is the chisel? Is the chisel? I'm the ww chisel
brother, all right? And I just think that the O I think I
think, you know, honestly, the best thing you can do, I
think for your career and for my career is if you kept losing weight,
thing smaller. Maybe you have twelve inch pizzles. Brother Monson says that he
has supple ears, so he's never got he's saying he does. So we
never got that califlower. I'm saying, yeah, God, yeah, you
never got an ear of cauliflower in your life. It's gonna say he never.
He stays far away from cauliflower. The last thing he wants to have
it on this person. There's a quote for the ages he stays fought,
all right, labsman trivia, who is JP talking about when he said this?
He stays far away from cauliflower and the last thing he wants is to
have it on his person. That's what's called money. That's what's called money,
ladies and gentlemen. That's what's called what you think is stupid about the
podcast, but explains why we're going on ten years and no one in a
few others are. That's right. So a slaughter lifts and hits an atomic
drop, and grill monsoon calls out the Seattica nerve as being impacted there,
of course, I mean what else would be well, I have in Putsky's
initials were IP. No one ever confused him with intellectual property. We can
say that for sure. It looks he's missing a tooth too. It one
cutaway. There is somebody I'll tell you I can every time and not that
we've seen it often, but every time we've seen Putsky in this era,
there is somebody he reminds me of and I cannot place it. I cannot
place it because like with the with the very tight curly hair and like his
face, like there's somebody who reminds me of and I I really cannot place
it. Yeah, Oh my god, I think I know who you're talking
about. I think of, like I'm trying to think of like all the
people from this kind of era who have that tight curly hair, and I
can't. It's like I don't, I don't and who It's so crazy.
I see his face and that it goes away right exactly that guy and that
now I'm seeing Jim Belushi, like no, or Joe Piscopo or someone right,
I don't know, round that round like like he's got a fucking like
a helmet. You know, he's got a helmet of hair, is what
He's got got to know. Solar System's got to know who we're talking about.
Somebody. There's gonna be somebody like I don't know if they're necessarily muscular,
but like there's somebody he honestly, like I had Paul Servino in my
mind for like a split second, like, no, it's not Paul Sorvino.
Maybe it's the guy with no chin from ninety Day Fiance maybe. So
uh. Slaughter does a front backbreaker, gets a one, and then he
goes soaring as Ivan Putsky bench pressed him on the kickout. So you know,
Slaughter goes like a cruiserweight getting kicked out from seriously seriously, and then
Slaughter lifts Putsky and rams him into the corner and then hits another backbreaker for
two. Putsky blocks an attempt to send him into the corner and send Slaughter
in instead. Slaughter, Yep, he came to He came to New York
to do a couple of things, all right. Yeah, he came to
what you mentioned, the aforementioned spectacular bumps flying all over the garden. He
came to protrude his chin and bring some some Marine Corps drill sergeant Ethic to
the table. He came to get a victory. But most importantly, yes,
he came bearing the tip end of a razor blade, did he not?
Right? That's right? He he he likes his forehead because the fans
demanded it, right, Okay, he couldn't look at himself in the mirror.
If he wasn't seeing a Crimson mask. He cut himself. He cut
himself open, because that's how you get that one extra fan to walk through
the turnstile. So he pours hot and squinting as hard as he can to
get that blood floor. I mean, it looks like he's pouring hot tomato
soup. Actually the fucking color, it's so weird. Now you have Gorilla's
attention. Uh, months, does Gorilla Monsoon belong in like a Campbell's commercial?
You know, you know, you know, so you know he would
cook in the kitchen, right, he's cooking in the kitchen, and and
he's making for a bit. But every time he hears a fucking Campbell's commercial,
he like runs in. It's my favorite, my favorite. I wants
to watch the fucking Campbell's commercials. Yeah, but since his Putsky is still
in the corner, so I thought it's funny for some reason. Uh.
And then Putsky lets a big punt go and Slaughter leaps and hammocks on that
top rope like we wanted to. Yes, he does with the right whip.
Sergeant Slaughter takes it headfirst, bounces backwards and lands flat in his face
on the canvas. You know, the bump I do slaughters up crowds up
simple the whip is reversed to the corner and Slaughter nails nails up Putsky with
a with a falling lariat. What war are you gonna say? There?
It's just it's a he's I I really, I just never realized how how
spectacular Slaughter was. I don't know why this match made me really, I
think a boot can't match for the Patterson tribute. Yeah fucking kidding me.
He's doing the same thing. Hell on wheels, like yeah, like he
just he's he's crazy. It's he's crazy quick and again he just his his
bumps are just spectator selling makes you feel like it's really going down, you
know, right, a higher level of intensity. And it's funny because it's
because what Wo adds to that. I would think that a guy of his
size selling like that would would come across as goofy. But what works for
him is that you know it it it. It makes it more real,
It makes it feel more intense. It doesn't come across as goofy, doesn't
make it doesn't make him in the match like Goofy. It makes his opponent
look like a fucking super right exactly, it's exactly fine. Balance, you
get a strike and he did it. Then there's a let's see, Slaughter
lifts uh A Putsky, but he lands on him with a cross body and
that gets two for Ivan Putsky Irish whip. Putsky ducks and nails the Polish
hammer, that big finisher of his that he hits the ropes and does a
shoulder block, and it's at this point Slaughter leaps over the fucking crowd goes
bonkers hammer. Well, not on the sledgehammer. Slaughter leaps over the ropes
and on the way down. This is so fucking brilliant. You know in
ninety nine, was it ninety nine when Vince got thrown out of the ring
by China and Ron snapped his neck under the bottom rope. Yeah, yeah,
it's like a horrendous thing. You always are taught in wrestling school to
make sure that when you go over the top rope that your your head isn't
underneath the bottom rope, because if it is, when the rest of your
body comes down to the floor, your neck's gonna snap under that rope.
And Slaughter does Big Bossman does that in ninety two. Yes he does,
that's right, and Slaughter didn't get the memo. No, because he finds
a way to fall in such a controlled way that when he lands his chin,
his massive chin, right, the protruding chin that they always talked about,
is trapped under the bottom rope as he lands. I mean, this
guy's this guy's operating on a different level. He really is. These little
small touches, these little details, you know, there's there's something to be
sent for sergeants. Slaughter. Oh absolutely, I've I've really struggled over the
years as to whether he's he's a Hall of Famer or not. And it's
this stuff. You know, it's actually watching him in action that as opposed
to looking at his his accomplishments on paper, that that puts you across the
finish line his matches are, you know, because you can appreciate just the
that he he really is working at a different level in terms of things,
because like you know, heels of his size weren't selling like this. It's
really it makes him stand out in a lot of ways, and you can
see why he would be on the short list when Vince needed somebody to you
know, get wrestling seven on the rails in a way that make Hogan look
good. Yeah, and he's he's not on the Hall of Fame, is
he. Yeah? I don't know. I was thinking of the Observer Hall
of Fame, but I don't know. I don't think he is. I
don't think he is. EI there, they're always in, they're always fighting,
you know, because he's he's he's so transactional around. Oh yeah,
yeah, I can't picture him on the modern Hall of Fame stage, like
in an arena. That's right, that's right. It was. It was
a wrestling in twenty all right, So gets his chin caught in the bottom
rope and stands there like he's hanging by his own chin. And then in
the Observer Hall of Fame he did make it. It was a question for
years, what year did he go in? Twenty twenty three? Last year?
Oh, it was just last year. I forgot about that. Yep.
I remember considering him before he was in to the apron both go Slaughterstorn
refs the thrown hands, the referees counting as they're punching and they're exchanging and
there's a chop in. Sergeant Slaughter spills back into the ring, but the
referee waves the match off and the bell sounds. I'm not sure what that's
about. I don't understand how this worked, but anyway, they don't really
give you any explanation either. They continue slugging it out as the bell rings
and there's an Irish whip and Slaughter takes the huge front sternham bump over the
top rope to the floor that you mentioned, yep, and then he climbs
back in. He's trying to kill Putsky and starts hauling off, and Putsky's
throwing back, and the bell is still sounding, so it's like a big
peer or six brawl between these two. Referee Dick Lutz is sort of ice
skating and they're trying to break these two up as Putsky shoves them off and
tie up in the corner, and Let's gets between them and admonishes Potski,
and I think it's the ring. The bell is still ting ting tinging at
eleven twenty nine, the result of a count out the winner Sergeant Slaughter,
So I guess the raft was counting both out on the apron and because Slaughter
fell into the ring before the count of Tanny wins, I don't understand how
who counts out on the apron. That's not a count out. That's what
throws you off the most. Absolutely yeah, right, so very bizarre.
And then they had a break to come back monsoon, says Junior. Oklinda
is going to be interviewing Paul or Endorff, and here we go. Do
you have anything before I play it? Because this is fucking mondy It hilarious.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we had Super Sunday yesterday in Tampa,
Florida, the home town of it. Wasn't Super Sunday a year before in
Awa Minneapolis. Wow. Anyway, young man, mister wonderful Paul Orndorf,
just moments from now Salvatory Balomo, the great one from Italy, one on
one for you, mister Wonderbulnt right. Let me tell you right now,
Bolomo. I hope everybody's out there. I hope all you are. Tell
your friends are out there. I hope everybody's a New York out there listening
to what I'm getting ready to tell you. You know more than that spaghetti
either to me, as far as I'm concerned, I'm gonna show you what
mister wonderful can do. I'm gonna promise you people out there. You know,
once I say that I'm gonna do something, and damn well gets done.
And when I get in that ring tonight belowmo, you will feel what
the pile driver does to you. Everybody around here, you just wait a
minute. Everybody around here that I FACETI a lady have all bit the dust.
When are they gonna give me some competention around here? Huh? It's
coming. And all dude, you know something. You don't like me,
and I don't like you, and we know that that's what's good about it,
right or wrong. You just like everybody else because I'm better than everybody
else. I'm better than all those eight to fivers out there that make fives
six hundred dollars a week. They almost work for the garbage department. That's
not bad, bunny, and all due research it is to me. I'll
make that in two minutes. Out there playing around with the soul called BelOMO,
we w see, we are gonna see where I pressed for time.
I am sorry, mister wonderful Paul. You will take the pile driver.
You can bank all it. Matter of fact, bet all your Italian friends
out there on it. I thank you very much. He is mister waterful.
Paul Arndar two hundred and sixty some odd pounds out of Tampa, Florida
moments from now, Salvatory Blomo. You won't want them, said now to
guerrilla Monson for the action. Wow. I first all, we're looking at
Gene Okerland's first garden show as well. Ah, Paulowdorf hilarious, okay,
absolute hilarious. And uh I also Paulowendorff, he always nothing always happened.
I mean, I'm used to it by now, but earlier on, when
I was a kid, his voice was so much deeper than I thought it
would be based on how he looked. He said, such a deep voice,
and I just was always motherfucker man, real deal. Yeah, theater
in the locker room, because you could beat that ass yep. Just ask
Vader brother what a golden too. When you see Gene full Talk's earpiece,
yellow WWF logo and the mic flag, Yeah, gray steel mash on,
that little mic piece bobbing above the flag, locker room, yellow walls behind
him. Take me there, let me look around. Let me that's the
fucking money right there. I'm into a sleeping bag. It's unbelievable. So
we cut two of all people, Rowdy Roddy Piper leading Paula Orndorf through the
curtain. Yes, when Piper first came into the WWF, he was a
manager, love it, not exclusively, but he managed him and David Chultz
and two guys who didn't need anyone to talk for them. I know,
that's funny. Piper with a kilt and that silver plate thing hanging over it
leads or Dwarf to the ring. BelOMO in the ring, of course.
Blomo a mainstay in the territory forever and ever. And he had some other
like office roll too, I think, with his white ring jacket and there's
sort of a frilly center to Roddy Piper's shirt. He's in a he's in
regalia here to say the least. Yes, Indeed, Howard Finker introduces the
manager outside the ring to a chorus of booze. Piper looks around. I'll
call he's not that wild eyed Piper quite yet. He's very methodical. I
mean, he's he definitely has his moments in this in this uh this match.
But yeah, one to fallow twenty minute time limit from Italy two hundred
thirty nine pounds. Sal Blomo and then Paulo and Dorff is still on the
floor while the introductions is going on, convening with Piper making his MSG debut.
They renounced from Tampa, Florida. Paulo en Dworff, I'm reducing business.
Monsoon notes he surprised Piper didn't bring bagpipes out. As Paulo d'orf faces
the crowd and does the up yours, Piper comes in extendses his hand to
sal BelOMO. Piper questioning the knee brace of Blomo, arguing the referee about
the gear on sal Blomo. Yeah, check the leg, he screams to
the ref. God, I know he does. He fucking says that tang
ing ting, check the leg and the bell must sound thirteen times per match.
It's like he had no Seriously, he's got a like this. There's
something in his knee pad. I think that that that Piper saw. Yeah,
it was uh buffalo mozzarella, let's say, or he's got a meat
ball in his Uh you called him a spaghetti eater. I mean, come
on, now, we all eat spaghetti. What that's supposed to mean?
Spaghetti eater? Be weird? If he wasn't a spaghetti Yeah, it'd be
weird if he was Italian and was not a spaghetti e if he was anybody,
it wasn't right exactly, but fucking like, that's that's an insulting I'm
fine with that. Call me a spaghetti eater, please, I get it,
Paul. There's a lot of Italians in the audience, and you're in
New York. I get it. So uh ar Dwarf is barking at the
announcers. Never liked you to screaming at Patters, and Patterson goes, who
cares. Patterson's still working, by the way, we read some of those
results, you know, when they go out to California. He's still putting
the tights on at this point. Yeah, Patterson says, I'd like to
be in the ring with him to see if he likes me or not.
Pat Yeah, uh Paula and Dwarf and uh a, Roddy Piper bail like
fuck this. As the booze ranged down in, the announcer states because of
the knee bras that they're skipping town and it's so fucking like the stalling it
it gets annoying after a while. It's so long before he gets into the
fucking ring to fight like a while man. So they said they should have
been counted out by now. As Pollmerwarff barks at the camera, picks him
up and wants a Salabalomo back in a neutral corner. And they take forever,
like you said, even for a Piper to take on Dwarf's robe of
man. The days when a guy who looked like sal Blomo could get regular
work in the wrestling business, That's all I'm saying. Pallon Dorf again leaves
the ring until Bloma gets to a nutral corner. I heard that Salo had
like half lasagna waiting for him. He had, he had, he had
to leave. He'd get on a subway so he could fucking and he was
like, ah, ship, I gotta finish my lasagna when I get home,
he says. Ship. He says a ship about it. So Piper
peels off the robe of pisign. He had fucking like he had a whole
pan, like a full lasagna pan. He was just like eating it with
a spoon. Okay, sal below me, piece of shit, cell blowney,
so below me. So Piper peels off the robe. On the steps,
Italy is counting him down. Orf gets in the ref's face and Belomo's
distracted by Piper, and it's at that point that Pollowon Dworff strikes and goes
off with sledgehammers and another Pearl Harbor job by Grilla. Monsoon swear to God,
like three or four Pearl Harbor jobs every show is, at least this
time it is in a Japanese heel doing it. That's what it's right,
that's what it's bad. So Worndworff does the leaping pointed elbow and Blomo flopping
around like a fish taking the abuse. Monsoon says, the long psych job
paid off here for Paul Orndorf as he hits a big lift in a slam
into the matte cover. Monsoon insists at the show, calling it not the
Matt Boss but the Matt Cover. I prefer canvas. But he's not there
yet. Piper screaming in sal Blomo's faces He's being tortured. One heck of
a boy in there the gap ye, Patterson says, one heck of a
boy in there of Seal Blomo. Then Orndorf gigs and knee in the face
of bloom On the ropes and Piper basically goes nose to nose with him shaking
his hair like he used to do, you know, shake the hair when
you talk for the benefit of the people in the in the nosebleeds Irish whipman,
Paullen Dwarf. It's a high backdrop. My god, did blow over
an airtime, Yes he did. I'm surprised with that much lasagna in him.
Unbelievable. I ate the ten feet high up in there. He ate
the ten feet high it was it was lasagna or mackerel. I'm not that's
funny. Cifly we got up that. That's really funny, pirst of all
eight to ten feet in the air. Yeah, so orn Dwarf is only
six feet okay, Like he didn't get up that high. Maybe eight feet
maybe he got up feet above, but that's still that's really high. What
do you think about it? From Paul Parlette Orndorf who then cover who then
covers Blomo for a two count with Piper Bark and that was three and then
Orndorf lifts lifts up Blomo and Blomo counters with a cross body block. It's
a nice one, too, Ordorff. They'll right back on him with stumps
to the head corner of the corner website stepped. Ordorf hits the post shoulder
first on the charge, clutching his elbow. Big pop. He's selling it,
his arms going limp as Blomo does a bit of a mule kick from
his knees and then a drop kick, and Ordorff takes a bump and they
go off in the garden. They like to see this. They want to
believe in sal Blomo. Boss, I mean, you know you want to
believe in a baby face. I'll say that was salvatory sincere, an attempt
to bring sal Balomo back. I think so. Probably might have been.
Then paul O'dworff misses an elbow and they're standing now in the building into peters
at least as Blomo starts from bringing out that bad that damaged arm. Feels
like you didn't have to worry about sweet and crowd noise bullshit back then.
Boss. If you heard a pop on television, it's because the people were
up. Yep, yep, oh smoking mirrors. Baaloma with an arm ringer,
but Orndorff gets a kick in and a knee lift, and then Baaloma
with a kind of the disarmour slapped on basically the becane charm bar. Yeah,
sits down on the elbow, but Paul or Dwarf powers with the right
hand, gets out of there. Blomo fires back in order or for an
arm dragon rolls through, and Piper's pointing to his own head for the hair
pole, going ah. He's not saying hair pole, He's going ah.
And then I'm pretty sure the cameras catch him say you son of a bitch.
Ah. But I love that Piper pounding on the canvas Orndorff with a
nice Northern lights half backdrop, but al almost snatches the head scissors and transition,
and Piper continuing to make noises like almost like a like a deaf person
would make noises. You know, I was able to put together these.
Get on him, Get on him, don't give him no dice, finish
him, all right, all right that I was here with Paul, and
Dorf moves in for a belloy to back suplex, almost a saido suplex,
tough landing for Blomo. Not quite sure he cared how hard he dropped Bolomo
in that exchange. Bloma then launches a heart is launched hard through the ropes
to the floor and Piper's hovering with his arms spread over Bolomo on the outside
and Polwen Dwarf knocks Blomo down into Roddy Piper and Ordorf then slams blomo heart
on the concrete outside the ring, and Pat Patterson lets out a guttural noise
at the impact. There Gorilla calls Blomo a gamer. Sure, okay,
everyone uh, everyone at ringside in this tight claustrophobic ring side, you know,
it's it's like there's like two inches between the apron and the front row,
so it's so narrow, it's so real, it's so gritty, it's
so like you know, instead of like it's so like antiseptic. Now it's
like the space between the first row and the apron, it's always the same.
It's always perfectly measured. It's it's always perfectly architect did it looks like
a toy set, you know? Anyway, back in Ordroff lifts with a
great delayed vertical souplex planting. Sal Balomo floats over to the latter rope press
to get two and they put over the heart and fight of sal Blomo,
who starts throwing from his knees, but Paulo and Dwarff stands on him.
Blomo kicking up from his back but with another slam and Piper applods that and
he climbs the top rope. Paulo Dwarf misses a big knee drop off the
ropes. Blomo comes throwing like a drunkard, hits a double leg pick up.
The Italian blood is hot. We're told it's the Indian blood. For
Jenny Strongbow, it's the Italian It's kind of the same thing. Blomo kind
of does this headbut thing to Paulo and Dwarf's groin, pushing his legs out,
and then he does a tackle then and then a cartwheel. Sal Bloma
does a cartwheel away from the body of Paulo and Dwarf. The attack of
Worndorf Brodor Dwarf still catches him with a huge power slam he does. He
lifts Blomo's head on two. He doesn't want the three count. He doesn't
want the three count with that. I fucking I thought that was bad hooks
him up big delay because it wasn't like you know what what I thought made
a bad ass was because the because it wasn't like he'd had it easy just
then from below, you know, beating up Blomo. It was right,
he had just snuck in a power slam. Yeah. Yeah, he just
kind of grabbed it, grabbed it from the jaws of defeat, and then
he lifts him and it spikes him tough with a leaping pile driver from ball
Orendorf. That may be one of the best pow drives I've ever seen.
Yeah, absolutely, I thought the same thing. It was brilliant, like
the Yeah, that's the kind of way you come into a territory right there.
Seriously, you know, convinced the people that you hit harder, your
move's land stronger. One two three, Orn Dwarf beats below Mo and Pat
Patterson says he gives an E for effort to Salvator. I'm not quite sure
he knows what an E means in the eighth or f grade scheme, but
that's what he said. Piper comes in, they embrace, they rush to
break things up and h and then they go to break they come back and
sell with his arms on the referee, Shoal is collapsing like you can't even
stand After that, he's hurting, devastating finisher and they go to another break
and now they come back. The Intercontinental title is on the line. Now
Boss here at regular Garden. Tito Santana, the Pistol Firebird, as Grillaman
soon calls him, I haven't heard him, comes out with the red ring
jacket with Santana written across the shoulders and add steps down Morocco, the Intercontinental
title holder and a red hoodie. You fucking hoodie like he's Kurt Angler or
something. With your man, Captain Loue Albano. There we go, he
guiding light, the fountain of this information fuck fuck fuck thing introduces Captain Lewis
Albano with the cheek pierced Albano hamming it up for the people. And that
was before he came out. Tito Santana looking like Baba Booie from The Stern
Show. By the way, it's got to him and Morocco put together,
look like Bobby Yeah right. Shot of that green icy title with the eagle
on its face looks like fucking like the cheapest title belt ever made. Two
forty four, te Coula Mexico, which doesn't exist, gets a nice pop.
The city does not exist. Tequila Mexico Morocco beach two out of forty
seven pounds. He was the champ, but didn't wear the belt out to
the ring. Curiously enough, it was already at ringside on the table.
Yeah, and then they cut to some twenty something who has the Morocco red
hoodie on with the cutoff arms and a shirt under it. It's very excited
to get that screen time. Oh yeah, hamming it up. And then
Pat Patterson Cistito is a great athlete and a former football player, of course,
so we under way here Tito and Morocco for the icy strap. Of
course, Titore somewhere in the South. The Jr just had an orgasm.
Gart Tito would go on a former West Texas boy. That's where he met
Terry Funk played a big role in Lapsed Funk. As a matter of fact,
we heard from him on that front. Would go on to win the
belt from Don Morocco in the Boston Garden. Not here in MSG. But
this is sort of like a precursor to that Morocco with a beard. Interesting,
Yeah, I've never seen that before and close cropped, but it's there.
Gorilla makes a comment that he must have lost a bet or something or
that the coming up, and you know what the fuck was that? I
guess you grew a beard for the centennial. I don't know the centennial in
nineteen seventy six, right, it's it's over, Like, what's centential you
talking about talking about? I don't know, maybe one hundred years since the
Hawaiian statehood. It wasn't. But no, I don't get it. The
centennial. And then Jesus, look that bad gorilla. God, you lose
a bet to have that beard like everyone had back then. Like, what
are you talking about? I think, I think it's a good it's a
good beard. Actually I got unkempt at all. No, it looks good.
I actually was like I thought he should have worn the beard more often.
Yeah. So the lock up is intense wide base for both as they
struggles a position tight cut away to Loue Albano looking around at rings, I
think of when I when I when I see a lock up like that,
I immediately think of the fact that you're supposed to make it look intense without
being intense, right, And it's like, oh my God, Like I
don't even know how they do that because they look like they are in it.
Titanic struggle. In it, Monsoon points out that little Bano was in
Tito's corner, which is wrong. Then we see him move to the far
side. Oh, actually, that wasn't wrong. It was Albano didn't realize
what side of the ring he should be on. Oh that makes sense,
an he waddles around. Pat Patterson says, a great psychology is what's important,
and that's what Tito Santana has and nothing is fucking exposing the business there
back Oh my god, first actual reference to the whole broadcast at this point,
from Grilla Monsoon to Hulk Hogan. They talked about how historic the night's
going to be and how electric it is, but they never say Hulk's name
until yeah, four matches in well, because okay, can I tell you
something too. By the way, this is because they mentioned the whole and
they also talk about backline as well. But yeah, listen, I'm gonna
play the clip here. But listen, listen. I maybe maybe I it
doesn't maybe he says something else, but I'm pretty sure that he says and
this is for the Icy title because it's said it in the the the graphic,
But he says that the only title match that's happening is the world title
match listen. Only one title that's at stake here tonight and a match to
come up shortly. The newly krown We're ar Wrestling Federation Champion, the Iron
Chic this morning an icy title match. During an icy title match, he
says, there's only one title at s take oh boy put his belt on
the line against Holk Hogan. Holy pandemonium will break loose tonight. Ped Madison
square guard sure will, I'll tell you. Blass is very upset. The
Shek is upset. They thought him going They were gonna meet Bob Backvin,
but obviously Bob Beckman is not capable to step in the ring and go for
the championship. He is hurt. The doctor suggests as he should not wrestle,
so therefore he is not going to be here, and Glassy and the
Sheik are very very upset. Absolutely indeed, and Monsoon says hull Commania will
break out here tonight, so everyone knows to stay tuned. Yes, Chavanni
giving away the fully title win. Basically, Julkamania will break out in hives.
It remains to be seen. So Santana loads with forearms headlock, takeover
Patterson says, Santana will ask wrestlers please watch my match. I want to
know what mistakes I'm making backstage. Oh my god, Santana's cranking headlock on
the canvas. Pretty sure? Okay, Tino, Okay, fine, I
get it. I'm gonna go home. But nobody wants to watch your math
family. But I'm gonna watch you do another headlock takeover instead. One wants
to go home and eat his lasagna. But no, watch your fucking bullshit
match. I'm pretty sure I hear a light Tito sucks chant. He did
have some kind of anti New York like kind of like really annoying. I
don't know he was. He was. He was generally loved, but there's
something about his style against a Morocco where he comes off too much of a
goodie two shoes exactly. He's a goodie two shoes. And he also,
I mean listen at this point. I mean, actually, I'd say most
of his career he looks like a dufus. He's gotta he's got his haircuts.
The only haircut that I ever really liked that he had was actually his
Almatador haircut. You know, that was the only haircut that worked. Other
than that, he looks like a moron, but big, bushy, fucking
mob Yeah, he's bobbing hair. I was gonna yeah. And then that
like you know in the uh, the the later eighties and the early nineties
with that fucking that bushy you know, metal rocker hair. Oh yeah,
he had full ladies hair, no doubt. If that's not your taste,
then it's not. It's just like he looks just weird, like he just
he looks like a guy who's trying to be relevant kind of you know,
comes off like a tryhard like And I always liked Titos Santana. I think
he's great, and but like, dude, you're not You're not You're definitely
not a guy who knows what cool is interesting? Okay, Like he's just
not your thing. Just you gotta be you and be a dufus. Santana
slams, and Morocco's headed too the mat or the matt cover as Monsoon calls
it again another headlock takeover that actually gets too as Pat Patterson says Tito's mom
and his dad and his brothers are actually in attendance. Tonight says he met
Tito's uncles and his aunts and took pictures and he has pictures that they have
pictures of Tito and their wallet, and they're very proud of him. Tito
drops a knee, gets too working Morocco on the mat forever. It seems
like God, this fucking headlock sweet Atari and Budweiser logos. If you're just
if you want some distractions there up in the marquee. I think he.
I think he actually is trying out to be the our headlock gimmick. Yeah,
I think so. They talked about like the holy fucking does he like?
They break up the hold and they go back to the headlock. What
does the msg? Marquis says, coming up soon? Up there in the
lit sign. This is probably where Patterson got it from Ice Capades. There
we gods. Morocco then stands up in the headlock and grabs Santana's knee pad
and lifts him with a big side backbreaker. Very cool the way he slowly
methodically got in a position to deliver that. Morocco with trouble getting to his
footing. As Santana sweeps the leg, he yanks to Morocco up off the
ropes and does another headlog takeover, cranking and arching to get to yes stick
Lutz presiding. Here is Tito Santana's grimacing and breathing like crazy, forcing Morocco's
shoulders to the mat for a series of one twos, Albano looking like he's
a statue at ringside. I mean, do nothing. I know, it's
honestly, it's like the you know, you rarely ever see him do nothing?
What a monsoon column? Uh well, oh yeah, here I got
that for you. Oh oh wait a minute, what where is it?
I haven't the greatest Oh wait, I'm in the wrong match. Here there
we go, my bad. Look at the look on that face. The
greatest walking advertisement for birth control I've ever seen in my entire life. I
think that's what you'd call Vince. Now he's probably part of it. Back
up Santana, ringing that headlock out putting more. I bet Gorilla was was
part of the trafficking back in the day. He was the one that who
called him. I think remember Emily Fineberg said in the trial that she called
Gorilla and he was like sympathetic towards her, but it was it was it
her, and I'm thinking I think it was I believe I believe it was
Rida Marie. It was Rida chatteredon any of I believe any of them could
have been sympathetic, because that's what Vince told him to be putting more.
Tito was putting more to this headlock than anything you've ever seen. Yes,
I know, he rolls to a lateral press for two and it's so annoying.
Well, it reminds me to ever tell the story before about how one
of my good friends in elementary school we were horsing around at a school function
on some blue gym mats and he put a headlock on me and I couldn't
get out, really such a traumatic memory. So he was crank cranking,
and I was just I just wanted to break it. I didn't want to
do anything but break the headlock. And he had me down, and I
just remember that the vice like feeling on my ears, and how hot my
head got, pull my head out from the from the vice grip he had
on me, and just how like defeated. I felt that I basically had
to beg him to let it go instead of finding a way out. I
just I still remember that, and for some reason, when I saw this
match the bone to bone, the temple, to the to the forearm bone
or whatever it was came back to me, So there's you know that kind
of stuff. It made me feel very claustrophobic in the fact when I couldn't,
I really can't get out. It freaked me out. Get out and
what you do? Cry? Right, And I was like seven crossed my
mind just to cry. You know, maybe that'll work because I'm I'm stuck
here exactly. I could be listen, I could be stuck here forever,
yep, until I die in this guy's arm, until you die while getting
restless. Sounds like some booze breaking out. Morocco stands, laces the leg
side Russian La sweep you break out the booze. This fucking match. Morocco
working this almost like a face. It seems like, honestly, yeah,
Morocco the elbows Santana in the back of the head and does a running power
slam out of the corner, nicely done by Don Morocco. That gets to
Tito fights up, slugging away drops Morocco does them stomps. Albano gets in
the ring and Tito goes after him. Albano, of course standing and then
flies into the ropes like he's trying to tie himself up. It fails,
sloppy, it bounces and hits the floor to the corner. Tito sores for
an elbow smash and lands on nothing, hitting the bottom rope instead. As
Morocco gets out of the way, pat Patterson can't believe that Albano entered the
ring and it wasn't a disc immediate disqualification. What does he think he is?
Fucking Peter Fauk and all the he does think that Morocco goes to the
middle rope up to the top, Tito cuts him off. Morocco's punching him,
and Tito answers, and the bell sounds as Don Morocco pulls Tito and
they both spill through the ropes to the floor. And of course, back
then you kept slugging after the bell sounded. Of course a disqualification, so
the fans didn't really notice that they got a screwjob finished. And it's this
still a knockdown, drag out fight. Santana rams Morocco's head into the post
and the ringside table in front of Pat Patterson, and then Morocco kicks Tito.
Santana and the nuts and takes off with his belt. Microphone drops from
the ceiling. I really don't understand what the fuck happened here, Bud,
Like a double DQ. It just got out of hand. I know,
I don't understand, but like, why there's such weird referee calls in this
in this show. Yeah, I don't understand what Morocco. I understand what
Tito did to get disqualified, right, I want to say what each of
them did to give qualified? Honestco, I mean, fucking hell, Bano
got in the ring, So if you're to do a DQ, it should
have been then yeah, I mean who cares, right, I mean Morocco
loses by DQ, that's that's the move. But the mike drops, then
it lifts again. Uh, let's just talking a finger explaining things. And
in sixteen oh three, Fink announced that the referees disqualified both men a double
DQ, and monsoon to straight up says, what you just said, I
don't understand it. Yeah, maybe we'll get an explanation later. So it's
almost like there's a chance that Dick Lutz fucked up what he was telling.
What he was telling Fink to announce is the thing? Now another example of
just the enterprising Solar system, best listeners and podcasting, and our homie Zach
just keeps coming with this wonderful idea of like, hey, if I know
what show you guys are doing, let me see if I can't deploy a
little cheddar for the benefit of everybody. Overrun cameo, oh boy, it's
how we got Tito's views on Terry Funk into the lapsed Funk. It's how
we got mikey Ripreck's anecdote about Terry Funk kind of in a sad later period
of his career when he wasn't necessarily remembering things he was saying and doing.
And here Zach delivers once again. Out of the clear blue sky, Bless
the man. Wonderful listener. Tito Santana asked for memories of this night in
nineteen eighty four, and I'm not going to say he didn't disappoint. This
is w E Hall of Famer Tito Santana given a shout out to Jack asked
of me by Zach Volk. You asked me if I have any recollection of
when I wrestled down Morocco and Hulk Hogan won the title in nineteen eighty four.
In Medicine Square Garden, and I really don't remember much of that night.
I do remember that everybody knew that we were going to start something special.
There was a lot of changes going to be taking place in the WWF,
Tito Santana was going to be the new IC title champion, and on
and on and on. It was a great night at Medicine Square Garden.
I had a great match. I believe if I either beat Don Morocco or
he still had the title, because I did. I did beat him in
the Boston Garden. So that's all I remember. But Jack, I want
to thank you for being a Tito Santana fan, and without you, none
of us would be who we are. Thank you again. I guess where
the problem is. What he's saying. Tremendous stuff Tito with bringing the heat.
Thanks for looking up the match, Tito. Thanks yeah, thanks for
you know, it's all available on YouTube or you know, pecock if you
want to go. I wasn't expecting the pacock there. Well done. They
take a break to come back. Geane oakerland Is with Tito. Only one
thought that should not have been over. It wasn't I had you where I
wanted you I know I had the man beat. I don't understand why the
refereng that. Bell Jean says the consensus of the broadcast teams that perhaps Don
Rocco automatically was just qualified because Loue Albano was in there, and Santana says,
I don't want that until to happen. I want a pin in the
middle of the ring. Somebody should lock him up and keep him out.
That is Albano. Of course, Tito's intennis. I'm the champion as far
as concerned, brother, and Oakland has to cut him off. So there's
an ariba from Tito Santana. Yes, come on that front. Janie Oakland
says, there's no way I see a double dis qualification. Pardon me.
Grim Monsoon said that. So they they walked that back pretty quickly. Yeah,
yeah, I mean, I don't know what the fuck happened there.
All's our next. Oh. I feel very enlightened by what Tito. He
provided so much more context. Context of that. You take a look at
the match, you know, then you probably would have remembered, right if
there was a fucked up finish or something. Maybe a little bit of the
effort there. That's better than Ricky Stembo give me a twenty minute tour of
his basement when I asked him about shooting the dragon vignettes when he came in,
I guess enchilados are very good. Yeah, it's nowhere in that that
category. Not many are. I think calls our next match a very special
attraction for the most outstanding midget wrestlers in the world. Two undre three falls,
best thirty minute time limit from Boston hundred and fifteen pounds. Dana Carpenter.
Is that Dana Rosenblatt. Dana Carpenter Carpenter. There are a lot of
Carpenter's named Dan, so not Dana Herssey either, Right. Montreal won twenty
five. It's punch Oh boy, they have punchos in Montreal. I think
he's the wrong, wrong part of the North America. Yeah, and the
opposition is comprised from the Isle of Haiti hundred pounds Haiti kid, and from
Jacksonville, Florida Tiger Jackson at eighty two pounds ladies, and believable little nos
fat too looking dude seriously is Monson says, it looks like Tiger Jackson's dad
is referring the matchup and he says, these guys are worth a price of
admission, and if I wasn't here, I would buy a ticket. Monson
says Jackson looks like a miniature skull Murphy God, rest of soul and old
school. Heal, Yeah, here's here's the talk. I mean. Also,
you know Gorilla talks about calls him Dan Carpenter, Damn Carpenter. If
he gets any bigger, pat he'll have to find a job. Yeah.
Uh, he is a midget, but he's a little big for the other
guy. Yes, he is. I always, like you mentioned, I
always enjoy watching the midget right, the painting very fun. Oh my god.
Okay, Dan, okay, Dan, you suck the charisma out of
him any faster, Dan Carpenter, where's the bathroom? You know? Where's
Dan Coppinger? Is is this the WWF wrestler or is this the shop steward.
Dan Carpenter sounds like the treasurer of the local Dan Carpenter. I'd like
to you, thank you, thank you everyone for coming to this meeting tonight.
I'd like to, you know, introduce the president of the Elks Club.
This is Dan Coppenter. Yeah, it's funny. Dan Carpenter is in
the iron workers union, but Dan, iron workers in the Carpenter's Union.
You're correct, it's that fucking cast bitch t lf ax, Get fucked,
Get fucked. In twenty twenty four, Dan Coppinger, Haiti Kid and Tiger
Jackson, Ristina Arbitter and Poncho Boy, So Tiger his pants a Pancho,
They shriek and laugh, not quick enough getting his pants off. Grilla months
Soon says, all this is just rough man. Tiger Jackson and Dana Carpenter
starting the match up. Pat Patter says, isn't he cute? I'm like,
oh boy, Tiger and Pancho mix it up. No hair to grab
it, by the way on the bald head of Tiger Jackson and comedy though
to tackle, Puncho goes down monkey flip. At that point, Puncho with
the arm bar slapping Tiger's bald head, and girl Montsuon says, Pancho didn't
miss too many meials. Tiger backflips from a snap mare. He's definitely got
a pouch for a belly for sure, and drop kicks Poncho down. Flying
Head Scissor and the crowd pops replay. They replay the drop kick in the
head scissors there from Tiger Jackson, Tiger with a head stand into a head
scissor, and then Poncho extracts himself and twist Tiger like a top on his
head, spins him like a top on the canvas. Does Patterson pop's big
As Tiger comes up in the leaps, Haiti comes in with the series of
dropkicks, does a backdrop on Dana. Dana leap frogs over the backdrop,
and Haiti drop kick from behind the floor. Listen to Patterson later on.
This is from later on, but listen to him. It's great, that's
great, pat Yeah, it's really funny. It's funny to see someone do
that dropkick from behind by Haiti kid to Dana. Carpentry goes to the floor
long way down for these little guys. Grilla points out to the concrete concrete,
and then a tiger for no reason comes collapsing over the top rope and
Haiti with a full nelson on Dana Carpenter and Pancho nails his own partner.
But I hope these guys, like you know, after the matches and after
the nights, I hope to god they would go back to one of their
houses or something or apartments or whatever, and just like bitch and and just
talk about how fucking idiotic the the the the taller folk are. Yeah,
exactly. I hope they talked as much about them as I mean, because
like motherfuckers, like they're just so it's so condescending. It's so you know,
I mean, I get it, this is the time period. I'm
not, but it's like even so, you know, you'd wish people had
a little more about anything like this, you know, any any sort of
situation with someone that's quote unquote different. Now they call them micro brawlers.
Now it's a micro all the time. They call them micro brawlers. Well,
yeah, there's like a reality show on Discovery right now micro they call
uh, you know, they call the bigger folk macro macro brawl. Well,
it depends if they're trying to predict interest rates or not. Haiti with
a full Nelson on Dana Carpenter Pancho, Nils's own partner. That's always a
great prat fall spot for the Minis. Tiger comes in with the big mismatch
in Dana Carpenter and Danta tags out to Poncho. Pancho slams, Tiger covers
him for one refrolls over the ref's head and go the whole thing where the
ref is praying with his hands, and that the guys stopped throwing each other
onto him. A Santos romos is the referee punto with the hiptos. Tiger
goes to the middle rope like they like that. They like when he goes
up top. That was like when a mini climbs the ropes and he has
the sunset flip stacks him up one, two, three. Uh Dania lands
on the ref's head, kicking out. But first of all, it goes
to Tiger Jackson and the no one. No one told me it was a
two out of three falls match and they said that at the beginning. Yeah
they did. Fortunately, I was braced for it. Go to break,
they come back, Katie and Puncho mixing it up, and then they go
to another break. And then when they come back, Haiti is no selling
him to the buckle. Uh as his of course because you know it's a
hard head, right, because he's he's he's from an island, a tropical
climate. Yeah, so those who come from an island have a thicker skull,
which insinuates a smaller brain. But here's here's a fucking gorilla Monsoon with
his racist stereotype. I got his head hard, don't it's not the way
to get him. He loves that. He loves that also, I mean,
you know, gorilla, you know he is getting his head smashed into
a pillow. I know. The weirder thing is when guys do get hurt
doing that. To me? Is the problem tacked to Dana Carpenter, who's
holding that tag rope man, but it's like too short. He's pulling it
tout, you know, yeah, and the thing goes flinging when he lets
it go because he's pulling it that hard. Interesting souplex by Haiti Katy whips
him around kind of off to the side, and as he lifts him,
then there's a pigpile on the referees back. The ref comes up all indignant
about it, and then there's a four way crisscross spot for you. This
was because it's like it's like you got three guys going one way, I
mean, Haiti kid going the other way. And needless to say, that's
the one that intrigued Pat Patterson. I'm sorry to do it, so uh
Haiti Kin ends up in the middle of this crisscross directing traffic, essentially surprising
swallow his whistle like the guy in crosty, and then he says look up,
and then he snatches one in an airplane spin, and then Poncha cuts
him off, and Dana lands on a Haiti kid. I guess that gets
a two that Haiti's now on top somehow, and uh yeah, this was
This was so fucking bizarre because like the like the referee doesn't know what to
do, he doesn't know what to do here, and there's like confusion and
and all of a sudden, Haiti kid is on Haiti kid is on top
of Carpenter. Carpenter has done nothing, has not received any move at all
to qualify him to be pinned, and the referee comes over, right,
the referee like comes over. It's like, uh one, two and he
holds it up and then okay three, amazing like slaps three anyway, God
help us, he slaps three. I don't know Dana Carpenter's grabbing the rope.
I don't know what the fuck happened here, but there was obviously some
big miscommunication talk about the fucking trivia question. What match came before Hogan beat
the chic Ah Right, Jesus Christ, this is it? So now it's
split one fall of fee piece and Monson says the ref obviously must have gotten
whacked in the head when they were on top of them. There they go
to break, they come back and there's like no announcement or anything. Think
is in the ring to and it's like over. So yep, there's something
something went long or something. He ended this match during commercial break and that
is that. So I'm not even sure. Let's see if the results say
who won. Yeah, it shows Haiti Kid and Tiger Jackson beating Dana Carbon
turn punch your boy. Uh six fifty three, two falls to one,
Okay, so that was that was two falls to one, two falls.
Yeah, they wouldn't have they do the announcement into the announcement of the winner.
Well, it's why we're here. To Geno Courland. Yeah, the
Iotola Freddy Blassie in his head, dressed and the rest of his career just
moments away. Listen to what he says too. He says, this is
Gorilla and we're going to play for you. Like hearing rilamon Soon saying ww
Champion Iron cheek is such a weird thing. Let's rustin fans, Let's go
to gene Okerland in the interview area with the fabulous fred Pleassi and the WWF
champion, the Iron Chic. All right from Medison Square Garden, Ladies and
gentlemen, ayatola, Freddie Blasi, you are living now a lifelong dream right
now in your stable, the world's heavyweight champion, the iron Cheek. But
the test of his career just moments away here at Medison Square Guarden. In
other words, they pulled the ninety six er honors here. We were trained
prepared for Bob Becklan. They snuck his pencil and that geek in on us.
Well, I guarantee his size means no difference, nothing to us,
because I've been having the iron cheek training and sporing with Fuller six foot nine,
six foot ten, and I guarantee you the camel clutch has worked on
him, and I know it'll work on Hulk Hogan. All right, let
me talk to the man who is currently the rating World Wrestling Federation Champion.
Am I ran the iron cheek are doubly the step is testd up your short
career as the world champion salam Fat made mischister, I know you speak English,
chic Please, okay, you know what I said. I said,
I think in this country a lot of perasas people is. There's no Andrell
Olympic champin I'm the world class a you champion, now I'm the champlain,
and there's a fair and square in the medicine surregarden. No. The reason
I say you people perasa is because you go bring that animal Hogan for no
reason, because I never met the girl. Shouldar rested me, that punk
Bob Buckling again, No, mister Hogan, your gentleman, Fred Blasi,
I'm sorry, tileman. I apologize right out of time and right out of
time, out the world. Wrong, unbelievable man. Now, well,
Hogian does the same thing. We takes those breaths in between. Yeah,
but this doesn't sound as like as as troubling Abord. Yeah, yeah,
it sounds very painful. Something's going on there. A couple of interviews,
Sheik was able to do Wild Champion in Fred Lassie's book, he does us
the service of translating them from the FARSI uh Chik says, I just called
home a couple of days ago. I talked to Iatolahomony and I talked to
all the family. He talked to Theola. I heard big celebration into Horan
Iran. He used to say, Iran like orange range. Everybody happy.
Everybody know I deserve to get that gold, especially I have the best manager
in this country, Iahtola Blassie. I heard the Iatola Hominy, and all
the Iranian people, Muslim people in America, in the Middle East, in
Asia, all the Muslims are happy about me. Everybody, no intelligent people
went to library they read about the chikh. I was the best. I
was the amateur. Now I'm the best of professional wrestling, toughest roughest sport
in the world. I have to say God blessed to my manager Iatola Blessi
and Iyatola Hominy. Unbelievable. So such a such a fleeting opportunity for Kaso
Viziri to feel like the top guy in the sport, and the any documentary
that was done in him that we've referenced, including an interview with Brad Bluccian,
really caught chic. I think in a time where he was just too
old to be shiky baby right, he didn't have it in him right to
go totally nuts and live the gimmick. Plus he presumably was on less substances,
so there wasn't that element taking over his psyche and his instincts. And
he's kind of calm and serene sitting in his living room doing this interview.
His wife does an interview for the for the documentary, and it really is,
it really is a chic that I think is almost being forced to be
a little more contemplative than he ever would have taken the time to have been
when he was still running hard as you know, the Howard Stern guest era.
Yeah, for the man, right. So I figured, before we
go to him doing the honors and see him as WWF champion for the last
time, and of course it was a short, fleeting reign for the Ironsy,
we'll play a few clips from that documentary that kind of crystallize how he
was feeling throughout the the duration of things. Here's him talking about Bob Backland.
When Vince took over and made to ww what it is today, he
decided that Bob was no longer to be the champion. Bob by Krim was
a good champoint, but people get tired about him. Don't see that.
The change, Well, the place needed to be shaken up, and you
had five years of plain white milk toast, you know, topping, great
wrestler, but not attraction. White milk toast. That's Bob Backland. What
is plain white milk toast? I think you try to say white bread,
baby face, but he said toast instead. Well, my white milk toast
is actually a thing, is it really? Yeah, it's toasted milk.
It's toasted in milk. Yeah, it's a piece of toast in milk.
I think it's a Scandinavian thing. I don't know. Milk toast, Okay,
breakfast dish is and we toasted bread in warm milk, typically with sugar
and butter, salt, pepper, paprika, cinnamon, cocoa, raisins,
or others may be added. In the New England region the United States,
milk toast refers to toast that has been dipped in a milk based white sauce.
So there you go. That's what they head in the Northeast. Milk
toast, Oh my god. Of course. Milk toast is also a term
when you spell at m I l q u e, which means t o
a s T, which means, you know, just plain plain Jane Vanilla
boring, purposely boring, okay kind of thing. But I now so as
anyway, argument that milk was this is bizarre. But maybe I'll make milk
toast for breakfast. It sounds good. Let me know it goes all right,
So she gets the win. He knew he had the title match,
and he didn't know how it was going to end his wife. But no,
I didn't know. Surprise miss Sir mcvin come told me my wife didn't
know. A surprise every mold everybody. I was sitting in the front row
and they said that he won, and he put the hand in the air,
and I was numb. I was like, no way. They did
not tell the family wow, that she was going to get the belt and
the towel is going to hit the ring, And as we talked about,
I think the referee was even necessarily clued in. She can victory Corner as
w w F champion. Let's go down very much, Robert, Welcome it
once again to Victor Corner. This week's special guests are the newly crowned World
Wrestling Federations heavyweight champion and his manager and mentor the Ayatola blasting iron cheek all
the world, all the reading world. The Victory magazine wants to know what's
your reaction, what your thoughts are, what your feelings are? Analogy want
the belt and what the reaction in Iran has been. Well, I leave
it to the Iranian people because I know Iran is one of old country in
the Vault and they know the Iran by two think oil and wrestling long long
soon ago wrestling come from Perishia. The old one was the nuname is Iran.
I don't have to talk about myself to the Iranian people. All the
Iranian people know the hotro Vasity Olympic Champain, you Champain, and I've been
to the Bold Game. I've been to the game. I've been to the
Moscow Game, I've been to the all over. Now I'm the Vault having
a Champain in the United State of America. And between the all the champain,
all the tough people in the Vault, a special Bob all America people
that been the library that read about Iran and not about the Orange Sheik,
one of the toughest, roughest wrestler in the world. That's because I have
that goal. I have before many goals, but this goat is the most
important that all of them, because profession wrestling is the toughestest sport in the
volt is an all pleasure for the Iranian people, Muslim people, all the
nation in the middle is all the Iranian people in the America. Salama lekom
had Matahmesham talama's lukarab Bamaayata, Hamisham, Razukara, Hamidnam no Irana, Mishus
Maxustati, now Cote Mari, the orang shik, Salamleku and Masala Maleku.
Thank you very much. Now back to ringside probing insights there courtesy Robert de
Bord in the short lived Victory Corner segment which we heard hoging on as well
as that's the segment Vince says the ominous things about nineteen eighty four and the
change that would be afoot. Here's the Iron Cheek as champion. There are
precious few moments like this. He wrestles Tito Santana and the Philly Spectrum Wow,
between beating back Lin and losing to Hogan. It's like that that Teddy
Beassi title defense in the Boston Garden in eighty eight that we have to accept
and come to terms with. He's got the belt on his waist, he's
presented his champion, and here he wrestles Tito Santana. Really his one shot
to go out there and leave with the belt. He's definitely his. But
he's gonna have his hands full tonight for the newly crowned World Wrestling Federation.
Have your right champion. The iron Sheep his head makes his way down.
Well, here he comes, and the band from Iran coming forth from the
wrestling Road area, and you can hear the crowds. That's fun to the
new World Wrestling Freederation champion. Probably Saint Kit not to bless us with a
co made new flag tonight. Kick probably would have gotten ripped off in a
video with it crowd on it spreed Holler at USA, then Rightley Shaw Wesley
timesas next contest is schedule for one call to a one hour time limit,
and it is for the World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Championship. Introducing first according to
my left the challenger from Tokula, Mexico waigh two hundred and twenty six times,
Taketa Santana and ladies and gentlemen, don t heaven Iran weighing two hundred
fifty six pounds, the World Wrestling Betteration Heavyweight Champion the Iron sheet and there
was the ring intro for the one time that that is wild. Iron defended
the championship that is wild, of course, heading into the loss January twenty
third, ninet eighty four to Hulk Hogan and Madison Square Garden. Sitting down
for the A and E documentary, Iron Cheek reflected on his loss of the
championship after such a tantalizingly short reign. My shagana to me, toultro dun,
who's the bed to hold? Then this is him talking about over and
gunya making the proposition. I s gotta to me cultural done? Who to
a hole? The burn got to him and said, if you break hul
Cogan's leg, I'll give you a one hundred grand. But I came out
spinning and turning twenty different directions and got up on the apron and I pointed
at the sheep browk lock ability, and I came in and ripped the shirt
off. It was already there. Because I'm going through this, I'm like,
oh my gosh, this is gonna be huge lightning bolt a right.
It had been so established the camel clutch with the iron sheet that once he
put it on you nobody got out. No Matick. I knew if I
broke the hole the place we were upped, and it was already over.
Once I got the camera clutch and back into the turn bubble. The only
thing we have to do was drop the leg on it. Understands. See
you get around for sure. The fact that he had to lose the belt
to hold Cogan, it was like hamorrhy gene, a blood vessel. It
was so painful. I'm alan and should have had longer. I'll make him
to you be really be a star. We thought me. Oh, no
Hull Hogan to be a star without me, No Hul Cogan to be a
star. Wow. Chic and the Blasty Book contributed this. I don't know
about that. I know, I know it's it's foolish, it's but what
he's saying is not that he was uniquely positioned to be the guy to get
Hogan over, but rather, if he had decided to take Urn's offer,
Hulk Cochin would not have become a star. If it can't, I mean
leg I mean, here's the thing though, I just don't understand if if
someone's gonna break my leg, even if I'm in a wrestling match, I
feel someone like going a little too far. I mean, I'm fucking getting
out of there. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't mean you can pull it
off, right, I guess, I guess it doesn't. But I mean
it doesn't mean she could do it. Yeah, it doesn't mean right right,
like you know, I mean, because she knew how to win an
amateur wrestling match, doesn't mean he knows how to break anything right. Also,
it doesn't mean yes, he's he's strong and and you know he has
that amateur background, but it doesn't mean he can out you know, Hogan's
still taller, bigger, and I you know, and I just don't think,
you know, the only way he could have done that would have been
in a move like like the coke, like the the Boston Crab when he
had when he's in there, Because besides that, there's no way he could
he could find a way to do it that isn't completely obvious. I think
obvious in a way that Hogan could prevent it. You mean, exactly,
He's gonna fucking walk away and just say fuck this. That's kind of a
fantasy, isn't it. But what he could do is probably Pinhogan, you
know, and tie him up in a way that he couldn't kick out.
That could happen. It's happened before, brother, exactly. No, woul
no, it never happened before. Brother. We're you talking about what Well,
we'll get more to the leg break here in just a moment. But
uh encapsulated the dynamic was Chic and Blasty's book contributing this passage. There was
an arounding newspaper in Los Angeles that put my picture on the cover with a
belt in the eyetola, Fred Blassie. I showed the newspaper on TV and
everybody. I told everybody it was the newspaper from toront Iran, and I
said that if no American can stop me, I'm going to take the belt
with me back to the Middle East. I had the most heat and word
wresting Federation history. Somebody called the office and said, if the she comes
to Albany, New York, we're going to shoot him. And Vince Senior,
God bless him, said I want you to cancel. Don't worry.
I take care of you money wise, so I did what mister McMahon told
me. I knew I was supposed to lose the championship to Hull Cogan on
juney twenty third, nineteen eighty four. But then Vern Gunna called me and
said, give me a favor. Don't drop the belt to that Hollywood bleached
blonde GRABBRONI hel Cogin. I'm sure that's exactly how Vern put it. By
the way, when you wrestle him, break his leg, take the belt,
then come back to me in Minnesota. Remember you, dumb flam a
bench. I was your coach. I'll give you one hundred thousand dollars.
We'll book you a lower our territory as the real champion, I said,
coach, I'll let you know after twenty four hours. But mcmahonn Senior was
very good to me, and I believe in the Islamic religion and I cannot
cut the hand that feeds me. Maybe one hour before my match with Hogan,
I take mister McMahon Senior and Junior in the private locker room of Madison
Square Garden and explain everything, and they both kiss and hug me and then
told me she you good. Man, I went into the ring and had
a fast match. When you lose a championship in a fast match, you
can still keep your heat. People think it was just an accident. After
the match was oh, but that's now you get your ass beat son.
Yeah. After the match was over, the McMahons were very happy. Vince
Senior hugged me again and said good match. Then Hogan shakes my hand and
said, thank you very much. I owe you one. But then he
forgot that he owes me something. But no problem. I did not double
cross the company anything. Now what did he o? You? Like?
What? He would the old do a job in WCW when everyone was getting
a money to do nothing. After Hogan came in in ninety four, I
was gonna do fucking He either drop the belt back to you like in a
month, like what? What's what? What is? The reason he started
saying that was because Hogan didn't answer his phone calls when he was looking for
job in WW. That's why he started going nuts on Hogan. So I
don't know. I mean, you know, fucking there's a spot in the
card for Landy Pofo. There's a spot in the card for you know,
just any hang around al Green for Christ's sakes, anybody, and he thought
he could have he should have been he should be collecting. Of course he
was fucking bombed on crack, but that wasn't necessarily a disqualifier at that era.
Wcwe there. So what exactly you said, Crook? He was there?
Huh? Host issues who? Then Senior opened the curtain for Hulkgan as
he left the dressing room to win the title from the Iron Cheek. It
may have been the old Man's last official act. Less than four months after
the match, he died. He got to see the beginning of hull Comania,
but never lived to witness everything his son did to change the business.
This is now. I think Blassie talking. Vince Junior likes to say that
if his father knew what the company would become, he'd turnover in his grave.
But I think that the old Man would have also been pleased that Vince
became the greatest promoter of all time. With the names coming into the World
Wrestling Federation Paul Mister Wonderful Loorndorf, the Junkyard Dog, Reignhammer, Valentine,
Johnny's Sun, but a hell of a lot nicer, Vince had an all
star team. The difference between him and the other promoters was that he understood
what to do with it. For example, he knew that the Iron Cheek
and Sergeant Slaughter had trained for the business together and were good friends. That
meant that if they got into the ring, they'd trust each other and put
on a great show. At the time, though Slaughter was a heel playing
a psychotic former drill instructor, Vince looked at the situation, made a few
alterations and came up with a feud so emotional that it was able to headline
Madison Square Garden even when Hogan wasn't around. So that is the perspective from
Fred Blastie's book The leg Break Story. Okay, it would be one thing
if everyone stuck to their story and there were contradictions. But the problem is
there's contradictions within the same person's telling of the story. We've heard several times
now. Hulk Hogan just represents straight up that the story is the truth,
including in that clip for me, and he mentioned it in his book,
mentions it in interviews. Let's go to what he told Chris Jericho about it.
It's true Iron Sheet broke in with Vern yeah, and so he calls
iron sheet on the backside and you know, getting the Sheik's intellectual brain and
tells the Sheek how mad he's getting screwed over and just be bottling for the
belt. He should keep the ball for two or three, four five years,
just like Batlan did, and he shouldn't drop it to this guy that's
not a real athlete, that he's not a real wrestler, and he'll just
break his leg. This sky will go away, and you know, they
won't have any choice but to keep the belt on you. What are they
going to do break Hole Cogan's leg, you don't keep the belt on you.
You know, let's shoot, it's all work. We're it'll work.
Yeah, So sink thank God had enough conscience of mind to tell Vince about
it, you know, because he you know, I guess he wanted to
work in New York more and he's wanted to go back to work for vern
of course, and so you know that was a true story vern Off,
which wouldn't be the first time. It wouldn't be the first time I had
my leg bro interesting stuff. So it's kind of weird. He says,
they're not gonna take the belt off. You if you break holl Cogan's leg,
that's a way to extend your title run. Yeah, Yet at the
same time, he's talking about how he didn't want to go back to Minneapolis.
So I don't get this part of the story where she goes back to
Minneapolis. If he's going to do this because he wants to extend his WWF
title run, He's not going anywhere if he's the champion, right, So
that kind of that kind of falls apart a little bit unless he goes back
with the belt. Well, yeah, I guess. I guess he'll consider
himself the champion even if they strip him, pulls a flare, and he
takes the strap with him to Minneapolis. Yeah, well it didn't happen.
And you know what else didn't happen. Hull Cogan repeating the same story over
again. It's true, it's true. He just told Chris Jericho that know,
in certain terms here he is. When he did the Voice Versus talk
show with Michael Schavello, he's the one that said he was. I mean,
he said vern Gany because when I was in the AWA in Minnesota,
there's been a tugger war with Vernon I and when Vince McMahon came, Vince
Junior flew into Minnesota. We talked and we made a deal. About four
or five in the morning. We shook hands and I was going to go
back to New York and tear the place down, you know, And when
I left, vere Ghani was very upset. No one's ever done this in
the wrestling business. No one's ever just walked out, which isn't true.
But vern Gania goes, oh my gosh, no one's ever done this,
And so the sheet tells us after the match, after it's all over,
you know, when everything is done, you know that vere Gany had offered
him one hundred thousand dollars to break my leg. But that's the story from
the Sheik. So whether it's true or not, I don't know. It's
the Sheik story. So now he doesn't know if it's true or not.
Well, I mean, brother, I'll tell you it was true at the
time, dude, Right, it's true at the time. But you know,
sometimes you learn new layers of truth, and I guess case clothes then
yeah, you learn the new layers of truth, right, right, Hulk
brother, what is Greg Gadna think talking to sports Kidia podcast of course,
the Son of Erne and when words started trickling out there that you know she
was telling this story. Uh, this is what Greg had to say when
he found out about it. Now you want to talk about prevarication, you
want to talk about trying to have it both ways. I'm ready for this.
I don't need to play two different great guy and he interviews to get
two different stories. I just need to play one a couple more for you
real quick. Is there any truth to the fact that Vern got Outford a
hundred thousand dollars to the Iron Sheet to bring No Chic made that thing up
there? He said, I heard it. I don't know, a couple
of months ago. My brother and I were watching, So you got to
watch this thing on YouTube. I never know he said it. Somebody had
told me and I said, that was never said. Vern never did that.
Yeah, Iron Chic he you know, he trained with us and Verne
got him started. Verne supported him through the Olympics and everything, and he
was he was so naive to the sport that it was. It was it
was, he wasn't catching on. My mom gave him the name the Iron
Cheek. Oh nice. Yeah, and then the Iranian thing was going on,
and Vince wanted summery and Verne sent him up there, and you know,
his style up there would work. It wasn't working in the a w
A because he couldn't work very good. It was different than a board.
Yeah, and he started he's swinging those person clubs though. He was phenomenal
with those. But you know, he got himself. He never would drink,
and all of a sudden he's drinking and he's doing the drugs and he
with that. I mean, we couldn't do it. He was phenomenal with
that. I was unbelievably in shape. He was, and he was a
great amateur wrestler. His style didn't work in the a w A, but
it worked very well for him in New York. Yeah, I've heard that
people have asked me that, and I was unless Verne put him in the
back room somewhere and said. I never heard vern say that. He never
told any of us that I asked him, you know, but he was
in the dementia stages, so I don't know if you would remember, but
he said no. Yeah, interesting little qualifier at the end there. And
I'll tell you I ever, I tell you too that actually I had that.
We actually originally thought of that. We actually created the w WE before
they did. Yeah, this is the We were the first of the Montreal
Double Cross, first ones. Well tell you that we were the first ones
to come up with the wars. The entertainment like that was our We did
sports entertainment before anybody else did. Yeah, we're going to rename it a
e A right Actors Equity Association, right exactly, So very strange at the
very end, he had to say he never told me that. Yeah,
well you know him in a back room somewhere, you know, Vern,
Vern didn't tell me that. Well, he's your dad. Yeah, Vern
didn't tell me that, mister Gagney never told me, right exactly. I'm
telling you right now, you never call me dad. You gotta earn dad.
Privileges chic. How are you cheek all bust of us? Stuck gone
yon blah blah. Uh. Listen, I'll tell you what I got a
proposal for you. You know, I think it's a it's a beneficial thing
for both of us. What I'm going to do is, I'm going to
offer you a million dollars dollars, okay, a million dollars to break Hulk
Hogan's leg in that championship match. A million dollars, one hundred thousand,
but I'm going to keep ninety percent of it. That's good. I will
offer you six hundred million dollars, but I will keep five hundred ninety nine
million, nine hundred nine nine thousand or niney nine. So you'd be the
judge. You tell me, You tell me why. It seems like Greg
had to add that at the end there about how Vernon never told it.
I mean, what do you think do you think do you think Vernon would
do that? I think I think he would. I don't think he would
say it directly. I think there might be a way to get get that
message to I'll say, you know, you know, you know, first
of all, I want to say congratulations a mean champion they're cause cause really
you know, it's well earned, you know, and well deserved. And
I'll tell you you know, I know you're going in there with Hogan and
uh, I just want to say, you know, it'd be a shame,
it'd be a if some of them were to happen, although maybe it
wouldn't be a shame really because you'd keep that belt, you know, isn't
that right? He married a nice Minnesota woman. You know, if something
happened to Hogan and then all of a sudden, you know, you came
in Minneapolis with the belt, that would have been that'd be something, wouldn't
it. You know what would Junior say about that? See? See she
did the time honored thing, Brett Hart, wouldn't That's right? Unbelievable.
Well, it's time for the match. What do you say? I'm ready?
First we go to Jean with Ayatola Freddy blast in the head dress test
of his career just moments away, and you played the whole interview, which
is great. In other words, they pulled a ninety six er on us.
Last said, if you know what that means? To tell me?
Yeah, I don't know what the fucking ninety six or is it has something
to do with like my mom the old ninety six er. It says here
it is an obscene cut of beef delivered to your table with a challenge one
person finished sitting. The whole table eats for free. So it's like a
oh great, we we have this chance for the whole table to eat for
free. But no one's ever gonna eat the whole thing. I think it
was dramatized in the John Candy movie The Great Outdoors. Oh okay, he
gets brought this huge steak and everyone everyone cheers on him to eat the whole
thing so that the whole table can eat free. But the whole trick is
no one ever finishes it, so everyone always ends up pain. Okay,
So I guess that's what he means. So aren' cheek with the title and
a red cafe on his head? And uh, here he comes. They
dissolved the chic already in the ring after that promo, So not only does
it come out first, he's already in the ring transports as if a fair
deal monsoon. The fact that the champion doesn't even get the respect of being
of being shown the entryway, come on, I agree, this is Yeah,
the stack is stacked. I mean, we know it's rigged in favor
of all cooked. We all know wrestling's fake to begin with, but come
on, does the champion have to come out first and not even be given
the respect of what being viewed walking to the ring. You have to make
it that clear that you're that this is going to be Hogan's night, that
you don't even pay attention to the details of the champion should be entering.
Second, I believe what we have here is a conspiracy against the Iron Chic,
the current WWE champion. And I think the fact that we uh that
this is happening, that we need to have a third party candidate in the
ww presidency because look, there's no secret that American foreign policy for decades has
been to use covert CIA operations to unseat democratically elected governments in Iran. As
a former Navy seal, I believe that as a report Reform Party candidate,
I should be the next president of the WWE. Anything Awesome on Soon says
it all. He says of Iron Sheek, He'll have his hands full tonight.
His whole Comdia has got a crazy here in New York. Dean the
number one contender for the World Wrestling Federation. And there it is. We'll
never forget this cut away to Hogan. Oh yeah, and here, listen,
I got this whole thing ready for you. Is there anything you got
to say before I play this? Well, you know, he's almost in
prayer backstage looking down. Read American Maid T shirt on It's this American Maid
in white letters, he's pacing in place and the music hits there he is,
oh, comedia, Oh, I mean let me do business up ready
for like this thing on fire? He isn't ormish, the father on her
feet panteumonia, he work harder and senior himself holding the curtin I have another.
And h Arnold Scolan's back there too, Bob Becklan's manager. It's weird,
as in the Observer that Skulling had been let go in the end of
eighty three. But there he is. Wow, it's weird, and he
comes fired out does the holster, pointing at the balcony everything you He's enormous.
I mean you gotta understand, like you can feel it. This is
it's absolutely absurd, how how loud these fans are, and the way how
hungry they are ye yep, like they need this. The way it comes
together so suddenly and so intensely, it's almost like it's almost like when an
underdog starts like excelling in the playoffs. It's like, right, oh my
god, this is going to be the season that these guys. Is this
really the team right that's going to win it all? And Hogan having just
showed up in WWF in December twenty third December twenty seventh to tape a show
that didn't hear until the first of January in a market that not everybody even
saw the show. So he's like two weeks old to most people watching WWAF
at the time, it's about to blow through the doors and just take the
ballot. Who he was, like, I mean he was, yeah,
he was obviously well known, like people you know, oh yeah, no,
And yeah, that's not to say he didn't get a huge response,
but it's almost like the guy's really going to take the WAF title this fast,
you know what I mean, that's what the shaka is. It's yeah,
right, it's not getting to know him, it's that they're really going
to put the strap on him this quickly. Because people still didn't know that
Vince Junior had taking control that that you know, Vince Senior was just kind
of there in a ceremonial role. You see him open the curtain for Hogan
as he comes out, and by the last time we saw Vince Senior on
TV, I'm almost certain of it. And that's so fucking poetic. I
can't even begin to talk about that. As Vince Senior died in May of
nineteen eighty four. Absolutely, like Jesus, you know, he's he's literally
he's opening the door, leaving Vincentior the past and he's yeah, yep,
and the review and he's opening the door to the future. It's absolutely the
case. And uh, you know he just anyone can stick it up their
ass who suggests that the best way to do it is to get the guy
to come in red hot and win the belt. That's what Cody should have
done, you know, the fucking formula. Don't pretend that is not exactly
what they did with the Hult that it's exactly what you do when you really
mean it, when you try to push somebody as the top guy. And
if you do anything less than that, we know that you don't really mean
it. Yep. So here he comes, hits the ring pointing to the
Balcony's up on the apron I or the Tiger. As he enters the square
circle, rips the shirt off, bright yellow trunks, signaling with the crowd.
Chic throws and up yours to the audience. Does thing, introduces Blassie
and the main event one hour time limit thenis beach And when they say that
they explode. Listen to this. Listen to this, introducing first a good
charger from Venas Peaks, California. Why are you bringing the bell so many
fucking times? Incredible? You there will never be a time ever again that
wrestling fans are that hungry for something. Yeah, someone, It's just never
gonna happen again. Like that. Truly phenomenal, It really all it's set
in motion. It's it's almost too much to bear the significance of it for
the business. Hogan signaling the strap around his waist, pointing around his opponent
two fifty eight to run to a cord a chorus of Booze Tehran. They
say the iron sheet, you know anyone else is like also kind of poetic
too. What's that about this match? Is that Hogan is facing a Fred
Blassie protege? Wow? Yeah, they an make a hey about that.
No, well you wouldn't want to because you don't want to bring up Hogan
being there in the in the past. That's true, you know. Otherwise
you know the Andre thing doesn't mean anything great point, but you know,
as people who did know it is, it is poetic sign Chic is a
freak and there's many USA flags waving all around the place. Hogan's slapping hands,
He's ready, Yeah, here we go. The Iron Cheek defends the
World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Championship against Hulk Hogan January twenty third, nineteen eighty four,
Madison Square Garden, Chic pacing still in his robe as Hogan rocking back
and forth and uh ready to lock up and he slugs him from behind,
does the Iron Cheek Hogan? Oh sorry, Hog? Oh Hogan, Yeah,
Hogan, Pearl Harbor is the chic he does. He's so rare to
go for it. The fans go nuts for it. Crowd wants a guy
who can't wait to bust out of the gates like a bull. And he
goes off on the sheek as he's trying to take his robe off, goes
off chomping at the bit. And that's the thing about this Hogan, that's
the thing about the Hogan that captured the imagination. He wasn't a cartoon character
with with foolish, you know, kind of corny looking matches. He was
an ass kicker, right he was. Heel does what he just did to
Chic. He was he was a you know, he was an eighty style
ass kicker. You know where it was. It was big and and and
and bombastic. But you know he's still doing stuff. I mean, look
at the whole the whole first part of it is him doing that. I've
never seen this whole match before. Now this was it. This is the
first time I watched this whole match. Yeah, I've obviously seen that finish
about a gazillion times, but you know he not only attacks Chik from behind,
but he also clothesline Cheek with his own jacket. Wow. And they
love it. They love that a guy is coming out there turning the tides
by using heel tactics against the heel. That's always what they've loved to suggest
that Steve Austin is this huge departure from Hulk Cogan is such bullshit. I
mean it's it's it's the same thing, but just jacked up. Yeah,
you know, yeah, jacked up in terms of the ranch, in terms
of the in terms of the well, in terms of the the anti authority
of it. You know, freak of it, right, you know,
you know you wouldn't see Hulk Hogan. I mean you would see Hulk Hogan
go after referees, but you wouldn't do it see it as casually as Steve
Austin would, right, you know, and officials, yeah, Hulk would
help would be victimized by the the evil powers, you know, putting him
into compromising positions, but he wouldn't attack those evil powers, you know,
like Steve Austin attacked Vince McMahon. Right. So he's jumping at the bit
and he gets after it, whipped to the corner, big blow, hits
Cheek in the face, and Chek falls trying to peel the roebuff. Simultaneously,
Hogan whips chic in with the robe still on and hits a clothes line.
She goes down, and then he drags him down with the thing still
on his throat. You know, he's an animal, the robe on his
throat, He's an animal. He says that. That's what fucking Patterson says
right here A long time. He's got it now, and I'm by the
way. I know he's so excited. It's great because that was why Pat
Patterson was a great booker. That's why pat Patterson was such a great idea
man, because he knows what it's like to get as excited as the wrestling
fan does about matches. That he's not in yep, and that is a
very rare quality in somebody. Dick LUTs the referee gets the robe away,
finally out of the mix. Hogan then heaves chake up and throws some right
hands. Awesome violence here from the Holkster. It really is. It's really
spectacular. Rich wip. Hogan hits a lariat that drops him basically an exi
boomba was he and then almost I thought he was going for a leg drop,
but he's a flying Brodie kneed the face and then Hogan takes a pause
and they're pumping their fists going nuts. Hogan rakes the eyes double goo was
a lift she got by his throat for the people to look at, and
drops him down to the canvas and ceremoniously Patterson puts over how powerful and how
he can move for such a big man and says he's actually uh spitting on
the chic. He declares at one point awesome yep whip big boot and iron
cheek takes the delayed timber bump to the canvas. Hogan covers one too,
not enough. The boot isn't enough. It's one. That's one, thank
you, Yes one unbelievable as Monson sis he didn't hook the leg even in
a match this momentous where looking at that fucking bullshit in there about the hook
in the leg? Oh brother one chicky dude. Well, brother, I
can't thank you enough for putting me over dude. I mean, it's such
an honor. But I got a question, dude, Dude iron shizzl.
I want to tye dag bro hiz dude, brother, man, I'm such
I gotta tell you, dude, I am. I am deeply honored that
you know, brother, you know you did. You did the honors.
Dude. I'm honored that you did the honors. But you know, I
ask you know someone, I ask you, brother. I don't know if
you want to, you know, just one. I just got one question,
brother. You know I gave you the boot, Dude, I gave
you the boot. I know that wasn't the finished brother. I wasn't expecting,
you know, for you to lay down for for that, but you
know he kicked out a one, brother, like, you know what's up
with that? You know, do what? What's the diz? Brother?
We both know how the finish is going and what's the point of that little
moment there where you kind of take a little bit of the steam off one
of my key moves. Dude. I mean, let's be honest, brother,
I'm you know, the boot's one of my big moves. Brother,
And you know, and all of a sudden, you know, you're kicking
out a one and I'm wondering. Yeah, I'm I'm wondering exactly you know
here I am. I'm supposed to you. You know, this gave me
the torch, brother, you know, and you passed it to me,
and I'm thinking, wow, you know, this is a great thing.
But at the same time, you know, there's like now, already,
even less than twenty four hours into my first title reign, there's already a
chink in the armor, right, So, I mean, I don't know.
I just can I ask you a question, Shiki? Did Vern pay
you to kick out at one? Brother? Brother? I just I got
a no, dude, how much did Vern pay you to kick out at
one? Yeah that's how you say it, accusatorally? How much? Yet?
How much was it? Dude? And don't fuck with me. Don't
fuck with me, chiky, because I want to know exactly how much Vern
paid you, dude. Yep, or who wait, wait was it Matt
Suita? Dude? Can that pay you off? Brother? What the fuck's
going on? Dude? You gotta come clean right now, shiki or we're
gonna have real fucking priss albums, brother, Absolutely amazing. So yeah,
long and short of it is, she kicks out at one yes, and
then they come back up. Whip Hogan hits another axie boom ba and then
a big elbow drop on the sheic Hogan covers. He gets two that time.
You knows, actually it's not an axie boom by as much as as
an l B boom boy. Corner to corner. Whip Hogan, though,
misses the back elbow charge and lands on his knee and falls to his knees,
and she in the spiked boots starts putting the stomps on Hogan. You
can tell the crowd just so feverish, yep, so feverish, like,
come on, keep that momentum hunt. And then she turns to him like
thirty years old, hul Cogan at this point unbelievable, thirty years old,
so much ahead of him, and then she kind of turns to the people
almost like panicked, and how loud it is like stuf, I can't,
I can't get out of my own head right now. You're being so loud
like a deer in the headlights. Moment for the Chic Cheek strikes, hits
a back break around, Hogan gets two, and Hogan does the big push
off on the kickout to a knee and the hul cup position goes Hulk Hogan
Chic stomping away, but it works. It's not really a hull cup yet.
He hasn't really made that a key part of his repertoire and the way
he become accustomed to. Chik then loads the boot by tapping his toe on
the canvas. I don't know what the fuck that does. Like he's got
something in the back of the boot and when he taps it, it goes
to the free he bought pumps or something, Yeah, exactly, probably a
rolled steel. So he taps his toe on the canvas and then uses that
loaded boot to dig it into Hogan's back double leg takedown. As the Shek
turns over Hull Cogan and the Boston Crab, He's got him over. Gorilla
Man soon says yeah, he does Gorilla yep, big bass in his voice
from Gorilla here as a chic cranks and then hulk Cogan does a push up
to break that hold because he fucking pushes out all power. She falls forward
and then Iron Cheek does a cut red souplex, taking the Hulk over.
Do you think Dick Lutz has any fucking idea? How important? I would
think so, But no, I would think so in a way as far
as on the night, But how transformati would be the business? Now?
He looks like someone who's just waity to just go home, right, Fortunately
so is hul Cogan. He's got a turkey sandwich waiting at home. You
know he bought it. He bought it, yes, the day before in
preparation. Well, I gotter get some sandwich for tomorrow. Got the match's
gotta go and I go late, so I don't want to have to come
home and make food, right, I gotta get that. So I wanted
to buy a sandwich the day before, you know, already made up,
you know, and you know I know, oh that it's you know,
most people don't you know, post people don't like when you got the lettuce
and you got all the things up there, you because they said they say
they say it gets soggy, but you know, I don't mind. The
soggy goes down easier, you know, thank God for that. So kids,
a gut wrench gets too. If I'm still hungry, what I do,
what I will do afterwards, is that I'll, uh, I'll microwave
myself some some scrambled eggs in a measuring cup and the other gross things you
do, Dick, So gut wrench suplex by the Sheik. He gets too,
They say, Hogan, way, I cooked frozen meat is in the
microwave as well, my microwave frozen burger. You know, he gets the
job done, you know, no problem, you know, but and then
uh, you know, go to sleep and wake up and do it all
over again. Lapsed Dick kroll over the years after Hogan wins the Bell God
run Twoplex by chik one too. They say, Hulk's three hundred and five
pounds now and she keeps stomping away sets in the camel clutch and Hogan,
with his back fully arched, is in trouble. Hush falls over the crowd.
They've just seen him beat Backland unexpectedly with it. Yeah, he can
just gonna be the next thing. It's brilliant that this was a thing.
Patterson go nuts about how no one's been able to escape this, and this
is what he did to Backland. Monson says, only the immense power of
the Hult could save him, and Hulk begins to convulse. I gotta say
too. You know, Hogan, to his credit, always like he always
sold the camel clutch better than most people. A lot of people would end
up on their knees, right, you know, and so there wouldn't be
as much pull, but Hogan always, you know, he always arched his
back. Yep, and that really makes it hurt. I mean, really,
you're really putting yourself and she his hands at that point. Yeah,
exactly, Like, yeah, all he has to do is pull a little
harder in one direction, and you know you're in trouble. Yep. Absolutely,
So Hogan convulses, gets to his knees and they explode. They explode
when they realize that Hulk Hogan is not going to fall to the cable clutch
like Backland did. He is going to be the guy to get out of
it. And then he blowed at this realization. Hogan stands with Chic on
his back, desperately clinging the hulk. Do you want to describe it?
Do you want to hear it? It's up to you. I want to
hear it, all right. He's stony to say he's going to reach Stoney
inside. Put a little something extra. Look at his power and his way
up. He's very tough as these That takes the effect the words from the
hole. Houlk Hogan now stands up for the second reps the int a cough
part of our call. Fans are calling wild and I'm so excited. How
DoD he go as he got up? Well, we gotta come to buck.
I got a bust for the coming dude. We have we have a
little chucker. There's one bodde whys a coo chick? History Day anptions for
batter on the fire Coper Welcome radio is here. What is the John in
the time of the fall? Five minutes thirty seconds? But what about this
fount and who looks like by my son heavy like chapping on the head,
clo Holt holding how you turk asbout on their feet? Has halcopedia has taken
over? Wow, It's unbelievable. I mean there from the moment, from
the moment that he drops the leg There is a constant level yes of roar
from the crowd that doesn't end. You've never a pop like this, No,
I mean screaming through the technology's ability to capture it, rising above the
sound technology almost just to create this murmur sound. It's unbelievable how loud this
crowd is. Ogan falls to his knees in celebration. Dick Lutz Handsom the
title and he hoists it in a moment replayed over and over and over again.
Went in to the crowd. Unbelievable. Holkomania is here. Couldn't have
put it more succinctly and better. Such a simple match, such a simple
piece of business. It's all the fans really ask for at the end of
the day. It's true, straightforward and they get it and pretty amazing.
As Lutz straps the belt on the Hulkster, the graphic comes up. New
ww F heavyweight champion Grilla Monsoon asks us to stay with him. Wrestling fans,
imagine the buzz and living rooms during this commercial break. My god,
you imagine kids fucking running around, facing back and forth, jumping, jumping
couch, doing body slams to their brother. You know exactly. Oh,
they come back and she get is being hustled to the back by a bunch
of suits, and Monsoon says he took another vicious pounding. I guess she
attacked Hogan during the break as well, and Hogan sent him backing. Hogan's
still looking ready to fight out there with the belt on, signaling to all
sides of the ring, pumping them up that he is now the champ.
We take another break, and when we come back, Ginoku Linda's with the
new WWF champion, and here we go. You ready, I got this
one. This is not a legendary moments. It's that yep. It's a
scene that we've seen a million times. Uh, champagne and everything, all
right, it's a flute, peddlam and pandamonium. Here back in the locker
rooms at Madison Square Garden, she looking up here with a brand new WARLD
Wrestley Federation CHAMPI had, old Cogan, you got proof of the thousands and
thousands of fans not only here tonight the Madison Square Garden, but throughout the
wrestling, warns me Tay Cruiser to himself. I asked, what's full of
whole w ws? Just stand behind the Holster, and I told her about
trying home to the USA. You know something of me, Jean. It's
the dream of a lifetime, Daddy, when you know something I can't imagine.
This is like going to the mountaintop a thousand times offer. I feel
the energy, how coming he is running worldwide? It just turns beyond me,
Gene. I felt everyone held those twenty five thirty plus thousand people with
me standing behind me all the way and it felt great. Well you have
a rived, Holko, I have you've never seen anything? It's beautiful,
is me? Ge This fell just part of yours suit. It's everybody out
there's no oh Andre the giant congratulating. Hell, no heavyweight in the world.
That's nice of you. I'm very proud of you. I'm going for
the listener who I've been very how are you here? Very good? Many
from what they had the garden with the new heavyweight champion. You're gonna be
kidding, be Rocky Johnson here. All the baby faces celebrating backstage with the
Holts are not all but but a handful. And man, does he get
the champagne in his eyes? He gave it open his eyes they're like closed.
Yeah, I think they had a little fun with it. You could
tell that a Rocky caught Gene by surprise with his with his champagne shower.
But it's pretty it's a pretty remarkable scene. It's it's a legitimate celebratory environment.
Backstage business is really about to pick up to a level that that they
they really couldn't have anticipated, and the fact that Rocky Johnson is among them
does take us just quickly to Rocky's book as he recalls what it was like
for for Hogan to come and take the championship and kind of where what position
it put him in, as you know, one of the lead babyfaces in
the organization that was more bought into by Vince Senior than Vince Junior. Wasn't
long before the Samoans were taking the belts. Pardon me not the Samoans.
They lost the belts to Donnis and Murdoch, didn't they Yeah, yeah,
Johnson and Atlas, So they're just coming into the territory. Did to thrown
those guys, He writes in his book as Rocky Johnson, I was in
Madison Square Garden for two consecutive months, during which time the WUF title changed
hands. First title change took place December twenty six, eighty three, when
Backlan dropped the belt to Chic. McMahon's plans were to put strap on Hogan,
but he didn't want to put Hogan against Backland, so he used the
Sheikh as the transitional champion. After they gave Sheikh the news, he came
back to the dressing room and told me all the while looking at the floor
and shaking his head, why is he only giving it to me for one
month? I said, I don't know. Go ask him. They're giving
it to you, They're not giving it to me. Now. This is
such bullshit because she did not know when he won the belt that night that
he was going to lose it in just a month, and he definitely didn't
know what was going to be against Hogan, who hadn't even come into the
company yet. Sheik was missing the big picture. Johnson says it was a
huge honor just to hold it for a short time and to be able to
say you had been the WAF heavyweight Champion. How many guys can say that?
I know, I can't funny thing about it was. It was supposed
to be a secret until his match with Backlan was over. But the Sheik
told everybody because he was upset. I heard him tell everyone in the dressing
room, I'm only keeping it for one month. It was common practice in
the WAF for McMahon to keep everyone everything close to the vest. He didn't
tell us anything, it didn't directly pertain to us. Well month later,
January twenty third, nineteen eighty four, in the garden, Hulkgan took the
belt from the Iron Cheek. This was a surprise. Nobody, even the
Sheikh said anything about it beforehand. What however, we knew something was up
because they had cases of champagne stacked in the dressing room. After the match,
they brought the cameras in and poured champagne over Hogan's head, Ladies and
gentlemen, the new World Wrestling Federation Champion. In those days, the main
event went on before the semifinal. On that night, I was in the
semifinal as we'll get to with Andre the Giant and Tony Atlases, my tag
team partners against the Wild Samoans Office Seek in Samulakwahi. They had the celebration
for Hogan in the dressing room before we went to the ring, and that
is the recollections there of the guy who actually closes the show, right,
yeah, right, two matches after Hogan wins the championship, which was kind
of the design for the Garden. They wanted to get the main event out
so they could then use the intermission right after the main event to give people
a chance to buy tickets to the next Garden show when they were at their
peak. That was the the idea. Plus, they would you know,
people that wanted to leave earlier or earlier could feel a blig you know,
cleared to do so at that hour. But yeah, it's it's something they're
clearly planning the flag there or the seed for a Hogan andre program. You
know, that's classic WWF. They start out as friends, right yep,
and eventually the jealousy would start to pump through. Ivan Putski's in the scene
as well. Yeah, it's super Monday, Juno declares the Garden with the
new heavyweight champion. Back to the ring, Thinks says this contest following to
h I would like to just take a moment here because yes, I also
have a copy of the WWE program Oh Beautiful magazine, and in it there
is an article. This is from What's the thing that doesn't give me a
date. But this is after he right after he won the title, and
there's actually a moment where Blassy they talk about the relationship for a moment.
I think it's hilarious because they put it in this magazine, like the the
lesser magazine. Oh, you know, the one you can only get at
the place, so not everyone had access to this one. But here we
go. The incredible hul Cogan finally realizes championship goal, the Hulkster to thrones
the Iron Cheek. After only twenty eight days, Hull Hogan has finally realized
and lived up to his billing as the People's Champion. Yes, whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa not to
mention the World Wrestling Entertainments Champion. The three hundred and three pound grappler from
Venice Beach, California, became only the ninth man in more than twenty years
of World Roasting entertainment history to capture the prestigious title from the Iron Cheek before
a capacity crowd at New York's Madison Square Garden on January twenty third, nineteen
eighty four. That victory, a hard fought battle in which Hogan displayed his
tremendous skills and awesome power and strength, squelched numerous beliefs and labels tattooed to
Hogan which had accumulated over the past three years. Prior to the New York
Bout, many wrestling observers and fans thought of Hogan could never win the big
match, the championship caliber battles, but Hogan put that notion to rest by
ending the Iron Cheeks title reign at twenty eight days, the shortest the third
shortest span in world wrestling entertainment history. Only Stan Stasia at nine days and
Ivan Cooloft twenty one days held the title for a shorter amount of time.
Ironically, Hogan's victory over the Iron Cheek added more meaning to the w B
title. First, Hogan was a last minute replacement to former w B champ
Bob Backland. Backland was unable to fulfill his commitment due to a neck injury
suffered prior to December sixth, nineteen eighty three against the Iranian strong Man.
Secondly, Hogan's signature for the match pitted him against his former manager Freddie Blasi
more than three years ago. Blasi covered the six foot eight inch blonde haired
wrestler, and Blassi guided Hogan to the number one contenders position in less than
one year. The mutual admiration and appreciation, however, between wrestler and manager,
quickly dissipated, and Hogan ventured west to the Midwest, where he became
one of wrestling's top attractions and well liked wrestlers. So when the opportunity arose
for Hogan to venture back to to WB circles, the Holkser jumped to the
opportunity of settling the score against his foreign manager, and indeed he did.
Now, I just hope this victory for the World Wrestling Entertainment title will quiet
those pessimists, Hogan said after defeating the Iron Chic, especially Blassie. The
man mismanaged me before, and this victory is especially sweet. I'm very happy
to have burst his championship bubble after just a short time. Now I'm the
people's champion. Meanwhile, the usually boisterous Blassie appeared to be at a loss
for words following the defeat, with the Iron Cheek at his side. Blassie,
you began the conversation in an uncharacteristically low tone of voice. However,
when his previous relationship with Hogan was mentioned, Blassi quickly exploded into a tire
rade. I took Holk Hogan and made them money is today. I found
him and discovered him in Venice Beach, California. At that time, he
was just a bodybelder on a weightlifter, and we had a very weak brain.
I took him, babied him like a mother hand would dude her chickens.
And then to have this vulture turn on me. I despise Hulk Hogan.
I wouldn't even wipe my feet on him. But I guarantee you that
I will unleash power that you've never seen before, not just with my man
may iron cheek, but all my men will stock Hulk Hogan. I will
destroy Vermann like hul Cogan. I guarantee it. The World Wrestling Entertainment title
means more to me than life itself. I shall have it back again.
I shall have it. In the meantime, Hogan will continue to bask in
the glory in which few men have enjoyed. It's good to be back before
my fans in the worldlesting entertainment. And to win the title after only my
first match back, well, that's something that I will always remember and cherish.
I'll take on anybody that wants to take this belt away from the People's
Champion, but anyone that wants his time bad enough, like the Iron Chic
and Blassy will have to deal with the Holster spoken like a true champion.
That's awesome, boss, thanks for pulling that up. Yeah. Next to
it is a order form for the WWE tote bag. They better believe it.
Much more of that to come. Yes, that's amazing. Yeah,
that's definitely definitely a sneaky little thing that programmed they would they would publish next
to the main magazine. Unbelievable. Yeah, great stuff too. It only
get it in the uh in the arena when you when you went to shows
live show. Yeah, it's like the thing you would buy on the way
into the building. Yep. Amazing, amazing coverage and amazing thoughts there from
Freddy Blassie. With immediate plans they will go around the horn a little bit.
Yeap, Hogan and cheek after this they had imagined of course in there.
Yep, great stuff. So to close out the msg card, we
go back to the ring. Fing says, this contest will be followed with
one other bout for you wondering renego Ley at two thirty six, Jimmy snook
and how poetic because we talked about who Vince could have went with. It
was Snucker, it was Hogan? Or was Kerry von Eric? Right?
Yep, and snuck a salt. He snuck as my favorite Snucker. Oh
yes, here's what he says in his book. Back in the day,
Vinnie would cut loose with us. Vinnie Senior, he was not like a
boss watching over us. He was good to us all but vin Senior imagined
me on top. And then it became clear, first with Bob Backland and
shortly after that with Hulk Hogan, that I was not going to be winning
the belt. I remember right after Rocky three, Vinie wanted Hogan to be
the top star. I still get along with Hogan and respect the Breda for
everything that he has done, but he rubbed me the wrong way at first,
early on, when he was trying to make a name for himself,
we were wrestling at a show in Los Angeles and he got pissed at me.
We were a tag team facing Cowboy Bob Orton and Don Morocco. As
you know, Donn and I have been wrestling each other for years, so
we knew how to get heat well. Hogan was posing in the ring.
We were popping the crowd, just as we had been doing for years.
Hogan was stunned, you could see it in his face. Don and I
just went at it and left Bob and Hulk in the ring together. The
gimmick was we continued our fight in the locker room after the match. I
remember Hogan came into the locker room pissed off. He charged in said he
didn't want me to take on Bob Orton anymore. I guess he and want
me to get over in any of his matches. I just remember saying to
him, are you talking to this piece of ass? Are you talking to
this piece of ass? I was so insulved. I don't think he knows
a piece of ass means. I was so insulted by what he said my
eyes were bulging out of my head. He eventually walked away and that was
it. We got along after that, but I know that might have screwed
me. As the months went by, I felt as if I was being
buried. Oh well, plus you murdered Nancy Argentino and and you know,
were high all the time and constantly causing headaches. From a drug possession perspective,
there was that yeah, yeah, rehab problem. You're not you weren't
you weren't ready, so tough. Yeah, But he ends up interestingly cornering
Hogan's team in the first brussel Mania, so not too far from Vince Junior's
plans, and on the cover of the very first Victory magazine, the very
first WF magazine that a Vince Junior published, and snook a one Wrestler of
the Year for nineteen eighty three. Wow. Going into eighty four, it
was a big ups for him. Remember we did that the very first All
American Christmas Show. Yes, that's a big about Jimmy Snooker having the banner
year and everything. So yep, A what a fascinating thing that is.
Because Hogan still isn't quite in yet, so they're taking you through the roster
of guys that they were featuring right before Hogan came in. Anyway, pat
Patterson said, I didn't get to want I don't even want to talk.
I was into this so much the last match and Snuka does the piece.
We see the snook A piece hands foam fingers in the crowd. So there's
some merch for the Superfly on sale. Patterson says, you talk about a
spectacular night. I will never forget. They do a great job buzzing,
like totally do about the match afterwards. Now in the ring, is that
Renee Gulay or is that Bernard Hill from the Lord of the Rings? It
is Bernard Hill. Yes, Gallet hit Snooker from behind for the bell and
hits them, slapped him with the chest whip at a back elbow. Halkimania
just went crazy here in the Big Apple, Monsoon says, So they're just
talking about Hogan right over Snooker's match exactly. I mean, how much more
can you berry fucking Jimmy my instruments talking about how just getting some It might
be some champagne left. Hopefully by the time I get back there Snooga,
turns things around, hits a hip toss and sends Guley flying. Galley gets
him down and puts basically the iron claw on Jimmy Sticker. He really does.
It's the fucking iron claw. As Monsoon continues to marvel at Hulk Hogan
and getting out of the Campbell clutch, and he says, you think the
people of New York are ready for the Hulk, And Patterson says, I
believe hul Cogan is ready for them, and Girtlea. Monsoon says the entire
wrestling world will be suffering from Hulkamania. I'm sure especially in Minnesota. Yeah,
Patterson says, just being being arrested myself, I know what it's like
to be in there, and oh my, many times I wanted to be
in there just to feel the excitement. You can't describe it. So he's
he's, he still doesn't. Galley, with a quick kneelift, sends super
Fly Down or the Fly as Monsoon would call him Irish whip Ducks. He
drops Goolay with a chop and a head butt, does Jimmy Snooker. The
crowd thinned out a bit. It sounds like, or at least they're just
not total. I'm sure they're fucking I mean, it's a weird. It's
weird. I understand there what they're why they do what they do. But
don't you think people would want to buy the tickets after the show? And
two if they if Hogan wins, like if the main event happens. Yeah,
I think it's like it's a question of if you're gonna leave, like
do you really want to tack on another like do you want to get home
that much later? You know, if you have to wait the last match
to buy the tickets, then Jesus, how long do you have to wait
before you get home? Yeah? All right, I guess I think that's
what they're thinking. So drop down snook up with two leap frogs, does
the chop, puts down gulet, climbs the top rope, pits across body.
One, two, three, And you've never seen Jimmy Snooker leave a
ring faster in his life. Oh, he's so fucking over it. Immediately
bounces out of the ring and up the aisle with no celebration, not there
for the announcement. He's gone, he's done. He knows that his lunch
has been eaten. Yep to the parents of Hulk Hogan back the stage with
Jenie England. The Hogans, they're not the balay Is, they're the Hogans.
It's Pete and it's uh Ruth, Ruth, Ruth and Pete Hogan.
Do we have sound? Oh? Yes we do. Uh and I guess
so, I guess what they're trying to make us believe on WWE television is
that Ruth and Pete Hogan named their son Hulk. Yes, we are being
asked to believe that that's correct. Gott, I'll tell you something, Girlamut
said that Pat Patterson the party has not many swan Iota, I want to
make an introduce introduction if I may. Ruth and Pete Hogan, the parents
of the incredible Hulk Hogan here celebrating. I'm gonna get your mom first.
Excuse me. What are your thoughts right now? Missus Hogan, your son
the new world Champion. I'm so excited. I don't know what to say
except I know my son is dedicated. I tell you he's been wonderful for
the sport, and the sport's wonderful to him. But I'll tell you,
I don't think he could have got to where he got tonight in front of
this packed house at Madison Square Garden without parents. Pete, I know your
breeding as I am. You didn't get any champagne on you though yet.
Yeah? What about your son the new World Wrestling Federation champion, the consummate
athlete. Well, we're very proud of him, very dedicated and real professional.
You gotta be proud of a mom and dad knows amazing. Peton and
Ruth are the people that trained me from the day I could toddle man,
and they're the ones that sent me and made these twenty fourth platforms. This
is Peach Belt and Roosevelt, and we're gonna stand behind it all the way.
Daddy, It's USA in hall Comania, run a wild Oh the party,
lady said, gentleman is going on. There is your new champion of
the world, the incredible Hulk Hogan, kissing that coveted belt. Come back
to Pat Patterson and go run them on food. And when Hogan starts going
off, Ruth has a smile on her face, like, oh, here
he goes again? Did did did he say? As soon as I a
tunnel toddle? I think he said tuttle? Okay, as a toddler,
I guess still doesn't make much sense. Well, and well, you know,
Ruth has a smile on her face. It's like, Oh, here
goes the stick. Pete is standing there looking like a hostage the whole time.
Oh, He's miserable, no clue it to say, hates his life.
Hulk kisses the strap on his shoulder and hugs his pin there. Does
not know why he's there, doesn't know why he exists, does not know
why he's going to deal with this shit. This Helt says in his second
book. My dad would was a pipe fitter. He was great at it.
I remember he did big jobs installing trainage systems for the malls and high
rises being built in Mark, Tampa. Not doing big jobs, brother,
that's right, unlike his son did big jobs. After a few years,
he was promoted a foreman. When the road was all dug up and they
were laying big six foot pipes and messing up traffic, he'd be the guy
standing in the sun with his arms folded overseeing all that work and then jumping
in to do it himself when it wasn't coming out just right. He wasn't
a real big guy, maybe five foot eleven, but he was real strong,
with strong hands and a good grip. That seemed to be common among
them ballet of men. Going back to my grandfather. My mom was a
housewife, so that's all the money we ever had, but it never seemed
to me that we didn't have much money. Everything seemed normal. Heck,
every Friday, my mom would pull out these little frozen minute steaks for dinner,
so every Friday we'd get to eat steak. Life was good, Life
was simple. The bolet is meet the Ballets, Yes, meet the Hogan's.
Definitely not the kind of a family that a Hulk was able to replicate.
No, not at all his own life, But kind of nice that
his parents were on hand. It's kind of it's a dimension of Hulk Cogan
that I wouldn't have expected them to want to show. Yes, while we
were supposed to love Hulk Cogan, it's just like, you know, someone
seeking virtue and saving Bob Backland and dispatching the the evil Chik. He was
supposed to be a little larger than life than somebody who's just who's a son,
you know what I mean? Yeah, right, So I was surprised
to see them there. But I think the only time that Hogan's parents have
bet on wrestling TV. I know. Yeah, fascinating stuff. So back
to the ring quickly to end the card as the Samoans are out off Us
Cicca, the father, of course of Roman reigns and Samoula, the future
samu of the Headshrinkers Rocky Johnson and Tony Atlas has mentioned where the WWF Tag
team champions at the time. Offha gets on the mic speaking a bunch as
they cut to oh my god, so weird Rocky, Andre and Atlas on
their way to the ring, and Andre's got that goofy smile that he has.
I'm happy to be here, totally doms and square, the the the
and whether it's a piece of pizza, the hot dog rub fender like that
matters, Like that's irrelevant detail. So they it's a great shot back there.
You know, they did the same locker room backstage shot on the way
to the ring that he did for Hogan. And you can see our old
skulling back there, smoking cigar with a smile on his face. Must have
been thrilled. The whole inner circle must have been so thrilled at how that
Hogan thing went off like it actually is. It's everything we could have hoped
for and more. Final the end of the evening, Funk tells us a
funk Fink, they show a great drawing of a sign of Andre in the
audience. Someone's been where Andre's here, it's as and yeah, eight hundred
and seventy seven combined pounds are the Samoans and the tag champs nearly a whole
fucking ton of weight? Absolutely all right, a build actually at least build
weight, build weight. Yeah, and do they ring the bell between the
introduction of each and every member of the three man baby face team? Yes,
they do? Oh god fucking like, what is wrong with this timekeeper?
So they close things out Andre the Giant, Rocky Johnson, and Tony
Atlas versus the Samoans. Uh girl, Monsoon says, everyone is just about
all screamed out and hollered out, just in case you wonder why it's so
quiet in here. As the pandemonium took place tonight one follow a curfew,
remember if this went too late per New York did Athletic Comission rules, they
shut the show down. Wow, and Gorilla says there's no way one ref
will maintain order in this lineup. Okay, well just fuck it then,
you know, yeah exactly, ref Santos counting out all three Samoans until Samu
is in there. Uh. Monsoon calls out Atlas and his new red,
white and blue tights. So everyone's trying to get in the s a action.
Monsoon asks, I think Andre got any champagne before they get to the
ring, And yes, they say no, but they'll sure he'll have some
later. I bet he will. They talk about he had some, or
he had some during he has he do he has some right now? I
bet you. And they talk about Andre traveling three hundred and seven days a
year on an airplane. Well when did he wrestle? Exactly? Atlas and
Samu start off the matchup they talk about coming up every twentieth Doctor d David
Schultz comes to the Garden for the first time with Piper to team up against
the invaders, Atlas with a crossbody on Samu for two tight shots of off
his mug. Of course, of course you gotta have offer. Monsoon asks,
how would you like to meet that in a dark alley or any alley
for that matter. To the corner. Andre puts his hand up, but
they tag Rocky inside of Ali. Honestly, you fucking take our you know,
it could be could be Vegas, you know, in broad daylight.
That's even more terrifying somehow, liking a shadow by hind like a casino where
no one goes out back like where the loading dock is a looking at you.
Then Andre gets a chop in from the apron criss cross, Rocky stops.
Samu keeps going and gets all pissed off when he sees Rocky stand there
chilling, and he keeps hitting the ropes. That was really funny. Actually
there was a fight moment cut to Andre with a smile for the ages on
that ring apron and those tight shots were something hilts back. Then Samuela Samuela
lock up Rocky to the Samoan's corner ducks and Samu hits Sika by mistake and
Noga knocker. Samu goes flying. Yeah, I guess Simoonan's with the hard
head thing. I guess if you hit Yeah, if you hit a Samoan
with a Samoan head, then I guess it does hurt them. I guess
it's so stupid. Tony Outlass comes in and puts h Samu against the ropes
and then lets him out, and then uh off A covers the camera lens
with his hand for some reason, it's big paw in the frame. Uh
yeah, you think it was just fucking with the uh anythink so they're all
having fun. They know no one cares about the match. Samu tries to
full nilson on Tony Atlas, but Atlas bump butts out of the position.
Then Andre he shouts and he sends Samu into Andre's fist and then tags him
in. Andre and the Blue tights and boots. Era comes with a whip
and a drop down and Samu cracks Andre in the back of the head.
Andre's falls to a knee, and then Offa comes in and they both head
butt the back of Andre's head. Monsoon calls the refout for doing nothing on
this double team. Sika gets in there and they keep headbutting Andre. Suddenly
he stops selling. He snatches Cicca smashes him with the head butt of his
own. Nice tight camera shot of that. As Sika collapses and Grilla,
Monsoon says, welcome to the world of pro wrestling. Andre snatches them nogg
and knocker. Samu whipped off big Boot, so Andre still doing the big
Boot even though Logan's in down. Samu goes flying Andre then sits on him
basically the bootleg drop combination Brother Yeah Yep, and convulses underneath does a Samu,
but he gets pinned for the one, the two, and the three.
Andre the Giant, Rocky Johnson and Tony Atlas defeed off Asika and Samula
five minutes and twenty nine seconds to close out a most historic night at Madison
Square Garden. Bit of a Pure six breaks out. Afterwards, Fink scrambles
in to announce the outcome. There's a mile pop. They exit take a
break back. Monsoon, wrapping up, talks about an unbelievable night history once
again made as Hulk Cogan strips the iron cheek of the title. They show
the fans filing out of the building and you can see the red seats that
they were sitting in. Patterson says, I will never forget that night of
wrestling. I've seen a lot in my mind, but I will never forget
that one. Lights go up in the garden. You can see all the
seats now, and Monsoon says, he came in here so fired up that
three hundred and five pounds of fury turned loose. No stopping him. He
was like a bull in a China closet, and he showed that phenomenal power
he has getting up out of the camel clutch. It's just too much tonight
for the iron cheek, as Pat Patterson says January twenty third, nineteen eighty
three, is that I'll never forget. Yeah, as in ninety eighty four,
of course, but Monsoon says well, Pat nineteen eighty four has brought
fantastic things the way professional wrestling, and the best is being brought to you
here by the World Wrestling Federation. Well, folks, that wraps it up
for tonight. Klang Klang Klang. Hit that music, yep, and it
ends with a still shot of Hogan and it moves as Hogan rises in the
camel clutch and registers the victory. We get a nice honor roll of people
involved in producing the show, not the least of which was a mention of
the folks that they used to basically produce the whole thing. What was the
name of that company? CORPYATD for Madison Square Garden and the Hughes Television Network.
This has been a presentation of Madison Square Garden Productions Incorporated over Madison Square
Garden cable vision through the facilities of the Hues Television Network. And they replay
the finish to music and fade out as Hulk clutches that pin to launch hull
Comania into the stratosphere. Boss. We close with a look at what this
victory said in motion from a merchandising perspective. Shortly after this, the WWF
had a deal with Bantam Books where they came out with these basically these photo
books. I can just picture salivating over. This is a stocking stuffer as
a child, for instance, and it just features an essay by a quick
short essay by Hulk Hogan and a quick synopsis of what led up to this
moment that we've spent all this time talking about here in the lapsed fan forty
years later, and I wish we could ride off into Hulkymania by you reading
from Hulkamania, the Official Biography of Hulk Hogan. The World of the Entertainment
presents hull Camania, The Official Biography of Hulk Hogan, lavishly illustrated throughout,
includes an exclusive introduction by Hulk Hogan, Hulkomania man and I'm sorry, photographs
by wait a minute, uh, photographs by Steve Taylor, and who handed
Hulk the business card in the awa? Is the Steve Taylor correct? Oh?
And look the Abantam Books has has offices and awkward just for Tony Garia.
How's that so nice? Hulkamania, man, it's the greatest. Hok
Comedia is something special. There's nothing like it. It's all of us together.
You know, we all share in ho comania excitement. We made Hokomania.
Without you fans, there wouldn't be any whole Comania. When ho Comania
takes hold. Jesus fucking Christ, how many times you get effe I can
say Hullkomania. When hok Comania takes hold. I got all fired up,
super charged man, ready for anything. Hulkamania has helped me in the ring.
It's my support. It gives me extra power, it makes me want
to win for everybody behind me. The hulk Comania spirit. Man, We've
got it and we'll keep it. This book is dedicated to the true spirit
of hul Comania. Sure there are other books around that claim to me about
me and hull Comania, but this is the only one that has my approval
and the official stamp of the Worldless and Entertainment, So it's the only one
that really is part of Hulkamania. Over closely with the editors to make sure
that this book gets everybody into Hulkamania sounds like a cult. That's a good
point. It's got the whole comedia excitement in words and pictures. It's like
me, honest and American maid. I wanted to bring I wanted it to
bring me and hulk Comania alive, and it does. Man, I can
vouch for that. You've got the word of the Hulkster. That's not all,
since we're all part of Hulkamania. The book's really about all of us
and how we got it a along. It's been a great time. You've
been with me all the way. You never let me down. Man,
I'm thinking about it gets me so excited, so high I want to explode.
It gets me stirred up like a tiger. Uk Comedia pumps me up,
gets me going, you know, it makes me feel indestructible. I
need that fired up feeling in the ring. That's because the competition in the
world of sting entertainment the best, the toughest, the most skilled anywhere.
I'm between the ropes with some of the finest athletes in the world, so
I've always got to be at my best. I'm going to train hard,
stay my toes, I keep my guard up and most of all, keep
the faith with all of you fans. That's why whul Camania is so important
to me. As you read this book and look at the photographs, you'll
follow my career in the ring. You'll see how Hulcomania started and built up
to what it is today. All the photographs are official Worldlessly Entertainment. No
other book has them. And I'm sure that the book tells my story straight.
It's accurate, man, the way I wanted it to be. There's
been some great times, moments all remember, like WrestleMania and breaking the Camel
clutch and taking the belt from the Iron Chic. You may not like him,
but he's a great wrestler. And then they're all my friends, my
brothers and sisters in the Ring, Cindy Lauper, Wendy Richer, Superfly,
Jimmy Snooka, Mister t and Captain and Captain Elis Albano brother. We've were
together forever because we're all so close in hulll co Mania. I wanted you
to know how I feel about it, what I think. I want to
let you into my head, my heart, how I go to the top
of the World's Thing entertainment. Championship, how I go to the top,
and what the World sing Entertainment Championship bell means to me. I've shared my
thoughts with the editors that they could share them with you. I wouldn't do
it for anything but a book authorized by the world's entertainment. It's the only
way to tell a story of Hulk Hogan. I want everybody to know what
we stand for. The power of hul Comania. Let's go for it,
Jesus Christ, that is what ended up happening Hulk Hogan. They went for
it, and they started January twenty third, nineteen eighty four, forty years
ago, a very fitting tribute to a very special night and one that I
don't know kind of us put our asses in the seats we're sitting in right
now, I would, for sure, so would that documented it on the
shelf. Let's go forward and we'll see you next time on that fucking cast.