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And where Fucking Back? Lapsed Fan
Wrestling Podcast WWF Madison Square Garden, January

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twenty third, nineteen eighty four.
In the first WWF title win of Hulk

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Hogan Boss Uh, there was something, you know, because it's been a

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while, really, you know,
we we've we haven't done a traditional lapsed

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fan show. There is a death
toll. We forgot to toll the bell.

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It's not like it doesn't toll enough
on this MSG card. Oh my

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god, I know. Seriously,
they're fucking It's like someone, someone is

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very someone is very concerned about order
being retained. Twenty five percent of MSG

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shows in this era were this sound
ding ding ding. I wish it was

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that thing, but it was more
like ding ding ding ding ding ding ding

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ding. Like someone's like, just
like, come on, we need order.

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Who have we lost? We have
seventeen accounted for, accounted for because

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they're are problem only some referees that
I didn't know, well I got,

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I got, I got Dick Lutz, I got Dick Howard Finkel, Referee

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Santos Ramos, Gorilla, Monsoon,
Pat Patterson, Mister Fuji, Chief j

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Strongbow, Salvator, BelOMO, Paul
Orndorf Roddy Piper, Lou Albano, Boston's

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own Dana Carpenter, yep, the
Iron Chic, Renee Goula, Jimmy Snooka,

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Rocky Johnson, and that's rough.
That is rough, rough, rough,

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And and whoever that guy is in
a sweater that always walks the wrestlers

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back and forth at MSG who we
have yet to have a member of the

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Solar system step up and identify by
the way he's like the uh uh,

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like the Doug Dillinger of Matt Garden. So we opened with one of the

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most eighty sounds possible to comment,
screaming before you, before anything happens.

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There are a couple things that I
found that I think might be of value.

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There isn't there. In an article
in the Wrestler magazine dated January of

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nineteen eighty four, there is an
article that says, so, this says

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before he won the championship, mind
you, is Hulk Hogan afraid to be

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champion? Somebody had been denied press
credentials. Right, Fans think of Hulk

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Hogan as the best wrestler in the
world never to have won a major title.

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Why the way? The answer to
that question is kind of yes,

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he's actually petrified of being champion.
Why has the prize eluded him? There

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are plenty of excuses, we've all
We've heard them all before. Now,

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however, it's time the fans started
looking at the facts. We're afraid that

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won't be pleasant. It was the
fans who brought Hulk Hogan back to the

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AWA. They signed petitions begging their
hero to return, though it meant he

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wouldn't get a title shot. A
champion. Nick Bokwago had apparently seen to

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that. Hogan nonetheless answered the fans
please. Everyone felt this made him a

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hero. There were a few.
I just signed a letter for my favorite

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hero to return after they got rid
of the steak and cheese. That's true.

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There were a few who didn't quite
agree with that. They felt Hogan

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was hiding behind the fans to camouflage
is real fear. After examining the record

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book, it's not easy to refute
them. Bobby Heenan was the first one

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to announce the theory. Hogan,
he proclaimed, is afraid to be champion.

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He came back to the AWA despite
the fact that he believes he won't

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get a title shot. Now,
as Nick Bockwinkle's manager. I can assure

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you Hogan hasn't been blacklisted from title
competition. He just says these things so

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he doesn't have to wrestle for the
title. Nobody will blame him when he

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doesn't go for the top prize.
Instead, he'll blame Nick and come off

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looking like a hero. It's always
easier being a hero for something you didn't

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do. Wow, something you did. Why hasn't anyone asked why Hogan came

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back even though he doesn't think he
can get a title shot. Now we

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know about the fans wanting him here, Well, there are fans all over

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the country who I'm gonna jump to
page sixty two. I just I can't

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imagine the politics behind this article.
Oh yeah, and they're exciting. Heenan

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is like the truth tailor, not
realizing Heenan's coming right in the door behind

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him. Yeah, exactly. Who
want to see him? Fans in every

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part of the country would like to
see him wrestle for one world title or

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another. Fans would pay to see
him wrestle for the title. Promoters drool

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at the thought of a Hulk Hogan
challenge. But in all the areas he's

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been in He's wrestled for a world
title fewer times than any other top challenger.

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What's the reason? If you ask
me, the reason is obvious.

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The man is scared. He's terrified
of the responsibilities and unique difficulties of being

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a world champion. Is it a
coincidence that wherever he goes he always complains

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the champion is avoiding him or is
he always hiding behind excuses? Unquote That

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was all Heenan's quotes. Considering that
Heenan has hated Hogan for years, it

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would be easy to dismiss those accusations, Yet the record books bear him out.

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Wow, Hogan has had relatively few
title shots. He did return to

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the AWA despite his contention that he'd
he'd be frozen out of a title shot.

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While one can admire his loyalty to
the fans, it was not the

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most intelligent move a professional good bank. The first thing a pro athlete learns

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to do is disregard sentiment. Many
Matt Starrs wish might wish to help out

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the fans, but they almost realize
their first responsibility is to their careers.

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The most important facet of their responsibility
is to realize their ambition to become a

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world champion. All other considerations are
secondary. That's why Hogan's decision to return

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to the ABA surprised even his friends. Maybe he doesn't want to be champion,

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said Rick Martell, a close friend
of Hogan's. Were they close at

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all? Ever, No, they're
just baby faces. At the same time,

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if he and Buck Winkle were freezing
mouth of the title picture, I'd

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leave the area. Look, I
love the AWA, I love the fans,

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and I love the arenas. At
the same time, I have to

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think of my career. All wrestlers
think the way compelled to all our professions.

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We don't have much time. We
have to get as far as we

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can as soon as possible. When
Heenan started saying Hulk was afraid of being

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champion, I thought it was the
usual Heenan nonsense. Now that I think

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about it, I'm not so sure. Look, it's no crime to admit

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to be ambitious. He doesn't want
to be champion, that's his decision.

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Still getting into fields with mister Saito
and Crush a Blackwell someone doesn't make much

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sense as someone who also wants the
HbA championship. Wow, No one's clicking

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in a place for me, what
the story that Verne didn't put the strap

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on him because they couldn't come to
an agreement about splitting Japanese royalties. So

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Vern perhaps knowing that Hogan's splitting,
you know, puts in a phone call

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to get a story done about the
reason Hogan never won the belt is because

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he didn't want it, because he's
a coward. Yep. I'm just trying

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to gain things out. Remember when
Vince Junior takes over, he bans anything

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but the official in house magazine from
being ringside taking pictures, and there are

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you know, seems like a dozen
publications that that was a lifeblood for that

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access in those photos. He also
takes away what we could think of his

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sort of season passes for the first
two rows of the garden, so that

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you don't see these same old adult
wrestling fans anymore. You start to see

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kids in the front row and celebs
and the media, the wrestling media as

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it was back then, try to
clap back by offering more favorable coverage to

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the nwa AWA in any non WWF
office through bill Apter. That's why Meltzer

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mentioned after in the same breath as
that Minneapolis columnist that he didn't take too

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seriously when he said he interviewed help
in the locker room after this event.

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Has has apter ever like I mean, has he ever talked about, you

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know, people lobbying for stories for
he has? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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he has. He's he's never gotten
into any kind of juicy details.

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Always so political. Yeah, I
mean, you're talking to a worker when

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you talk to that. Yeah,
I'm she's a nice guy, but he's

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working. You know, it's he's
he's much closer to one of the boys

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than he is a reporter. You
know, he's a worker. Yeah,

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and he's you know, it's a
very unique industry that that he was a

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part of there where it was like, you're not exactly pr but you're not

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exactly journalism, but the regional promoters
that don't have national exposure need you to

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spotlight their talent to sell tickets.
It just helps. It helps undeniably,

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and it helps the wrestlers to get
in the magazine. One of the big

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things at the nineteen eighty three NWA
convention when Vince basically you know, is

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chewed out by Ollie Anderson for the
moves he was making it in Ohio and

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then Vince and his father walk out
of the convention was a cover of an

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aftermag that had Jerry Lawler coverage of
Jerry Lawler defeating Andre the Giant in Memphis.

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I think the cover something like the
Midget that defeated Andre the Giant,

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Oh my God, and that was
kind of seen as I think it was

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Vince Senior. Maybe it wasn't this
convention, maybe it was a prior convention,

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but Vince Senior was decrying this as
kind of like the downfall of our

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industry. When you know a guy
that one one area promoter is building up

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is just you know, total teflon, undefeatable monster that can have that narrative

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just you know, pulled out from
under him because someone in another territory got

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Andre to come in and lose a
match and it's covered in the magazines.

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So uh yeah, you know you
got to keep a relationship with After if

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nothing else than to kill something that
might disrut your territory. I'm not unhappy

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the Hulk isn't the going for it. At the same time, I do

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find it odd one might expect Hogan
to be angry when confronted with Heenan's accusations.

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Instead, instead, he's uncharacteristically quiet. During the interview, he looked

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down at his hands that either fell
loosely or clenched until the knuckles turned white.

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Yeah, I thought about what he
said, Hogan began, and maybe

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he's not all wrong. I left
the ABA and discussed at not being given

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a fair shot at the title,
and I came back on the fan signed

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petitions asking for my return. That
was very flattering and deeply appreciated. I

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could have just thanked them and explained
why I couldn't return. Instead, I

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came back. That's not what That's
not what they tell you to do when

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you become professional wrestler. You know, common wisdom says I should go for

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the top prize no matter what what
you know what I don't. I don't

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do that. I don't know why. I don't think I'm afraid to be

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world champion. I want to win
win a title very badly. But why

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don't I want to win it badly
enough? That's a question only Hulk Hogan

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can answer for himself. Is he
afraid to be world champion? Is he

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want? Is he warring with Crusher
Blackwell and mister Saido to keep himself out

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of the championship picture. If he
ever wishes to be world champion, he'd

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better ask answer those questions fast.
So amazing, I gotta tell you too.

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And in the midst of this so
next to this this article, there

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can say guaranteed, Oh my god, guaranteed medically proven effective all oral drugs

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time released. Isn't the whole point
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Brother? Exactly? That's a concerning
comment in and of itself. There's this

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is okay, this is bizarre.
They don't really say what. They don't

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say what the fuck this is?
They have seven different diet plans, okay.

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They don't say what the pink speckled

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four yellow slash like there're all colors. They don't say what they do.

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Unbelievable. Imagine the warehouse these were
sitting in in nineteen eighty five, Like

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these four someone probably found like a
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forty six, and we're like,
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these into They look good to me. Would just model makes them? Uh?

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Maybe they're just weight control tablets that
you can go as far back as

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you can find any wrestling magazine,
decades and decades and decades back, and

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they all bespeak the reality that you
just illustrated by reading that first ad,

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that when you get right down to
the brass tacks, the bare bones,

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the lowest common denominator form of marketing
which appears in wrestling magazines, it's it's

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the story of the twentieth century in
this country. Why aren't you ripped?

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That's right? What the fuck are
you? Are you getting fat? Why

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aren't you ripped? Right? Folks, there's not much more to say than

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that. You can explain just about
everything that's happened in the culture from that

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notion. I don't understand this there's
a doctor doctor as should be doctor ass

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makes his patience several inches taller.
Yes, I don't know how fine.

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It's fine. I mean, and
it's so bluriy if you are short statute,

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regardless of your age. Oh I
see he sells stilts. No,

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it's like I mean, I have
a drawing of a guy who's like stretching,

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as if that's going to help him
elongate. Oh man, the fuck?

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Uh you can. Also they have
an advertisement for to buy birth certificates,

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diplomas, and wills two for two
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can get a photo idea and hear
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if we just use our dollars and
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and Treasury, presented by this magazine. That's all it says. Man,

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that's tremendous. I love it.
Thanks for that. That really yep.

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That's that's the things lost to history
of the politics of Hogan, going from

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a w A to WWF. So
we open the show with just a love

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montage. I mean I just had
to like pause it. It's so wonderful.

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Why is it wonderful? Let people
know. It's like because you've got

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these these beautiful, warm orange yellows
and Red's neon like they're glowing. It's

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like it's like ah, and like
lasers and shit, and it's just so

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great and the music is just so
amazingly cheesy. It's ah. The MSG

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Network opening, it's got the Twin
towers there, it's got the Empire State

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Building, it's got kind of like
the skeleton of MSG and lasers, like

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you said, yep. They show
the Rangers, the Knicks boxing pole vaulting,

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and then Bob Becklan and Green Trunks
holding up the belt to live in

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a time when you could just you
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level pro athletes and no one's batter
than I. Yep. And you can

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hear Fink kind of introducing, you
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this this opening montage, and there
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Grilman Soon has a whole voiceover thing, and I got that for you,

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ugh. Madison Square Yard Network presents
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such a such a stupid theme,
but it's so wonderful if you don't feel

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something when you hear that we can't
be friends and like they got the fucking

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I always love this. I always
am a fan. When to help accent

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the theme, someone is playing a
xylophone. Yeah in the notes, like

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you can hear it, king,
King, King, Let's go. It's

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just so fucking great. I mean, you're eating a TV dinner watching this

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and it's okay. Yes, it
doesn't mean you're like you know, like

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you know you you and he's like
you and your family are eating you know,

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dinners that you've microwaved, microwaved and
they're in plastic containers and you just

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you're all ripping off the cellophane and
and preparing to watch wrestling on on the

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MSG network. There's a pretty funny
comment I saw about how like we pine

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for the days when when going to
the mall could get you cancer. Oh,

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and I'm like, uh yeah,
true, that small price to pay.

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As far as I'm concerned, I
agree. And so put yourself in

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that. Put yourself, you know, in front of that TV, dinner

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with the tray on a Monday night
in nineteen eighty four January, nowhere to

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go. I mean, it's fucking
freezing outside, yep, but there's matches

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at the garden. The garden's hot, and you better believe you have the

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live bird's eye view. Yep.
People like you know, I imagine the

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families and queens and you talk about
what it used to be better. Yeah,

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it used to be better, and
we're breaking it down. We're breaking

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down frame by frame. Yes,
we're explaining precisely why we're pointing to the

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production elements we're pointing and because also
too, you know, it's these things

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and that that encouraged togetherness. That's
exactly right. These are all positive things.

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Yeah, these aren't divisive things.
These things don't put people into into

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tribal corners, you know anyway,
written in beautiful cursive with yellow golden brown

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coloring by the and then if all
those add copy there that did that,

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you heard Gorilla mon soon read and
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I just was taken back by it. They even showed a clip of a

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dog show and a hint of things
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to that distant ring shot from up
in the rafters at MSG that we all

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know, that establishing shot, if
you will, And Gorilla welcomes us ringside

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with Pat Patterson, who's on the
call for another exciting amount of action here

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at MSG and the color commentary slot. And you know, you can hear

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that din sound like you know when
a when a microphone is half plugged into

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an AMP. And they pitched to
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w w F logo. It hadn't
been bronzed and shined yet yet. I

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only wish, I only wish this
tape had the commercials. Yeah, I

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would have just made it extra perfect. Gorilla says, we're gonna lead off

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with a super duper match, which
of course means it won't be as uh

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luis rivea out of Puerto Rico to
battle ring veteran Tony Garia in our opening

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contest. Yeah, and uh,
Patterson says as the following it should be

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a very scientific match. And I'll
tell you one thing monsoon, this is

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one night I've been waiting for for
a long time. This should be very,

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very exciting. It's a classic night. You're wrong, just not this

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match. Well, pat Uh,
you couldn't have looked forward to it for

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that long. Hogan only been with
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the show. Uh Patterson, that
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had Hogan in mind, right,
he's kind of showing his hand there,

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netn't. But I was actually pretty
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they were ready to kind of like
make this happening an occasion. Like sure

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knew they were going to launch something
big. It was not like a yeah,

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we're gonna try and and and we'll
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belt. But now it's almost like
they predicted every single thing that was about

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to fall into place. They were
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so as it regards to Helkamania,
like it's like they really, I mean

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it's it's I guess in a way, it's just the way you got to

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plan out these things. When you're
taking a massive risk like this, you've

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got to really treat it like there's
no going back. You know, you're

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not testing somebody out, You're not
looking to see if this is going to

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work, like you're going to make
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So Garia steps up to the apron
with no music and the Beldings and Fink

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gets the MSG mic falling from the
ceiling welcomes everyone Tonight's All Star Card of

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professional Wrestling. Yes, this is
way before they were shying away from the

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term professional wrestling, as you've heard
in several bites in Part one. Yeah,

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these matches are sanctioned by the Way
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Athletic Comission, with officials judges Abe
Coleman, Paula Mora, and Jack Gibbons.

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What are these judges for It's a
great question. They're never referenced ever

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again at all. I mean are
they commissioners? Like, why do you

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call them judges, I mean,
what are they doing? What are here?

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Maybe longtime MSG fans were accustomed to
some kind of rule book that was

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never activated from like twenty years before, where they actually did kind of pretend

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to have judges and attendance just in
case. Maybe they also it was the

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State Athletic and Entertainment Commission, to
be clear, attending position Richard Ostrico,

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time keeper Fred Abatello, ting Ting, referee Santos Ramos and introduces himself,

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and there's another ting ting Ting and
the opening contest is scheduled for one fall,

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twenty minute time limit. We get
a great glimpse of how a garden

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card used to start in that era. It's kind of like people are filing

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in. It's chill. No one
thinks this match is going to be huge,

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and people are totally happy with that. They're happy with exchanges of holds

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in the early going. Yeap,
yes, you know, yes from Puerto

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Rico. As soon as think says
that, some guy in the audience goes,

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yeah, it's one guy to thirty
one, Jose Luis Rivera Rivera and

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they get the Curse of Chiron.
Back then, that kind of really elegant.

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Yes, person from wrestling you one
graphics. Whenever they put the graphic

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up kind of makes that noise almost
like by hitting the chiron, you add

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like a white noise to the broadcast. Crazy how that happens the graphics up.

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I'm gonna turn on an electric toothbrush. What is like all of a

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sudden, the power is gonna go
out in Madison's garden because they put up

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a chiron. And by the way, just to be clear, I would

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take it back in a second,
Yes, I would take television looking and

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sounding like this again in a second. Hey, hey, I'm Moffin.

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Could just gotta do me a favor? All right, We're gonna do a

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graphic. I'm the tele Oh Jesus
Christ, I know, I know.

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Can you please do me a favor? And look, just stay by the

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fuses and the you know, like
the powers and stuff because the broadless new

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technology. Frank, I just tell
I know, I know, I'm fucking

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nervous, yere, because you've got
a higher union. This guy from like

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Ayatzi has no clue would hold to
put the plug in. You gotta be

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by a practice. You've gotta be
by a practice, Frank, can't we

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just pop someone's tires to make sure
they come back red, white and blue

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ropes. Great garden crowd shop might
goes up after Fink makes his announcements.

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In Patterson says Korea is well respect
by wrestling fans Gia from awkward Australia.

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I believe it is how you can
say that again? Yeah, you know,

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unbeknownst to most wrestling fans, Tony
his parents are former US Senator John

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Kerry and Dennis Stamp. Although I
did I did hear that that Stamp disowned

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Geria because Garia was booked more.
That's a lot of stamps to get it

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all the way over from New Zealand. He was booked more. Monsion says

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that Tony Greea is still out there
for a partner. In Patterson says Tito

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would make a great partner. I'm
surprised Patterson didn't volunteer. Exactly, Garria

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vers Rivera to kick things off.
They get a handshake, see with Louis

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at this point, Yeah, he
is, I think, all right,

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so he's not really looking for he's
not looking for a partner. Loui's working

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in marketing for Titan. I think
at this point we're about to ding ding

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circle. Garea sweeps and shoots Low
and they lock up to the rope.

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Clean break. Crowd applauds that little
Monsoon says he's surprised to see l R

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sign a contract to fight with Tony. Oh, to see Luis Rivera sign

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a contract to fight Korea tonight.
The two, I don't know because he

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doesn't think he's up to snuff.
There's a standing switch and Kara snatches the

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arm and takes over. Rivera does
a head scissor. Great little kip up

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there and Grea with a a hammer
lock standing and that's reversed as well as

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Rivera scoops the leg. Kara kicks
off of that entanglement, and we have

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ourselves a stalemate in MSG. Yeah
a lot of that, yeah, yeah,

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yeah right. This is before.
This is before you took breaks to

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make the crowd appload for you.
Yeah right, like fucking cries like you

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do these fucking you know. Grappling
is like, oh, like, oh,

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this guy actually learned how to wrestle. We need the fans to celebrate

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grapplings. Shane graps, this guy
really knows. This guy could really handle

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himself in a fight. Even though
ninety percent of the things they just exchange

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just would never be executed in a
real amateur match or jiu jitsu match.

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Ever, if you tried to fucking
you know, and if you tried to

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pull the ship in a fight,
you get killed, absolutely murdered on the

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sidewalk, Like, no one's gonna
wait for you to reverse a fucking hammer

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lock, you know, into another
one, Like no, it's not gonna

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happen. You're dead. Oh.
He he threw his leg over the arm

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at the crew of the elbow and
then spun around on his back and came

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back up to the wrist lock.
You see. That's that's that's uh,

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that's ringmanship. If you can entangle
your leg in the arm, you are

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a chain grappler. That's right.
So girl Monson says, you can't wait

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for the mid EVNU tonight. So
they're pumping it from the right. In

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the the beginning, Patterson talks about
that sense of electricity in the air that

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night, jam packed overflow crowd.
They welcomed the folks watching and felt forum

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in the closed circuit. And that's, by the way, really why all

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of these MSG cards were produced as
television shows, Because they had to have

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production elements ready in case they sold. Every seat in the garden had to

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open up felt for him and put
a live broadcast up there. That's wild.

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So it always made sense to set
up for live broadcast at the garden

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for that reason, even if it
wasn't going to be on television, which

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it almost always was MSG HBO in
the seventies. I mean, I invite

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you to consider a world where you
could watch every MSG show on HBO coast

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to coast in the seventies. It
was very limited availability HBO at the time,

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but it existed. It was there
for the taking if you could find

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a way to get it. For
early ladies, they even started going on

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USA Network before they got into you
know, full time agreement with them for

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All American in eighty three. Yep. Unbelievable. So there's a headlock takeover

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in the head scissors, the crowd
starts moving a bit of these exchanges.

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Subdued crowd at this point is a
Grilline says the referee looks like Tiger Jackson,

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the midget wrestler. Patterson says,
one of the smallest midgets he's ever

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seen is Tiger Jackson. He is
so funny. He'll be an action later.

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But I mean, and and the
way they talk to about about the

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Dwarf wrestlers is just, oh my
god, it's so it's so different time.

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Yep, different time. It's like
they're base, they're they're they're they're

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all. They're. What they're saying
right there, is that, Yeah,

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the reason you're going to watch these
people is because they're funny, because they're

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because they're short, and they they
look stupid. Well they work a style

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designed to make you cackle and laugh
at them. Right well, I mean,

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you know, I I think that
they're because they're doing these moves that

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that you know, larger people do, and it's like, you know,

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it just I hate to say it
looks goofy, but it looks goofy,

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and it's almost like, I know, I know that that's what they were

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there for. I know that that
was the time period, but it's kind

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of like I wish they did stuff
that was more maybe made them look better.

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Yeah, story to Segrata Ground zero
ninety seven. Yeah, get the

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people go and realize these guys can
do some remarkable things do there their size

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differential, but girls as Tito is
up for his match tonight, so they're

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looking forward to that as well.
I see title on the line. Yeah,

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yeah, I would think that.
I would think I'd look forward to

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it, and then it happened that
it happened. Push off Luis Rivera with

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a tackle and a crossbody gets one
lock up in a great arm trag by

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Tony Gria As Monsoon says, he
catches the other guy's momentum at just the

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right time on those arm drags.
Pat it's important because otherwise your opponent,

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he explained to us, could come
right down on you when you're executing the

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arm drag and break your neck.
That's very true. And I thought about

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that. Yeah, And Patterson goes
in and shares, how you know,

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Tony Korea does the makes it look
easy, Tony. It makes it look

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so easy. How many times?
And I've talked to kids, you know,

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wrestling fans, and they feel,
oh, I ma back into an

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arm drag. It looks easy.
It's not you. It's a lot of

402
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:19.880
things you think you can do sometimes. And you know, you watch a

403
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:22.960
ice capada, you watch any kind
of artist sport, you know, well

404
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:25.839
I'll have to do is hit a
ball. We don't try to do it

405
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.559
a ball. It's covering ninety miles
an hour. Interesting. The first thing

406
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.000
he thought of it was the ice
capades, I know, which is actually

407
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:38.440
very much closer to what pro wrestling
is and than pro baseball. Yeah,

408
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.240
that's very true, it didn't say. Another tricky part of the arm drag

409
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.119
is what happens if your opponent doesn't
do all of the work for you by

410
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.759
jumping in the air or pretending that
he was taken over by your Yeah,

411
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.799
I know, they don't. You
know, it's funny. They talk about

412
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.319
Tony Karea making it look easier than
it is, but they don't talk about

413
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.680
Rivera making it look easier than He's
the one that deserves the credit. A

414
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:05.319
couple of tackles, Korea goes back
to the arm trag. Patterson says,

415
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.119
you watch the ice capage like he
just played there. Rivera tries to slam

416
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.039
out of the arm bar of Tony
Greia, but you better believe Garia holds

417
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.480
on and rolls on through. Then
they say, mister Wonderful is with us

418
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.319
tonight. This will be the debut
of Paula Worendorf in Madison Square Garden,

419
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.359
and they say he will be something
to be reckoned with his first appearance here

420
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.599
tackle Sidestep would have thought, you
know, given given the history that Orndorf

421
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:30.359
and Hogan would have, it's kind
of amazing that that he debuts in the

422
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.960
same show Hogan wins the championships.
They set it up, They set it

423
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.960
up for the comeback. Hogan's first
MSGU title defenses Orndorf, and they have

424
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.680
I didn't know that, but I'm
thinking later on. I'm not even thinking

425
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:44.960
about like right away. I'm thinking
about later on, But well, I

426
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:46.559
didn't know that. Yeah, it
was. It was kind of like a

427
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:51.759
deal where they brought Orndorf in in
like mid to late eighty three, and

428
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.200
they they jobbed him out at first. You know, they used to do

429
00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:00.680
the thing where you record someone losing
to prove that they you know, wouldn't

430
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.359
wouldn't put up a fit about it, for one thing. But then also

431
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.599
you always have that tape in the
vault to play. You don't play the

432
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.400
match of him losing, but you
play it if he leaves the territory without

433
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.960
proper notice or if you just feel
like he pissed you off. So that

434
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.119
was kind of Paul Orndorf in eighty
three while he was in the company,

435
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.799
was still kind of getting an orientation
to things in that regard. Yeah,

436
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:30.200
let's see it was uh January,
let's see here, all right, So

437
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:31.960
he goes to Japan right after winning
the title, as we talked about.

438
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.720
Now, let's see February. Pretty
sure it's Orndorf. Let's let's doubly confirm

439
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:43.720
that. Okay, Saint Lewis taping, Saint Louis taping Boston, Philly,

440
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.400
New York City MSG yep. Hogan
defeeds Orndorf by count out twelve to twenty

441
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:52.119
four, and then he rematches Chic
in Pittsburgh, and then he faces masked

442
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.240
Superstar in Los Angeles. Then we
go, so Hogan's on the road,

443
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.000
all right, So tackling a sidestep
Luis verdaz An O'Connor roll for two.

444
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.079
When Tony Karia acts like he almost
had me there, they replay it.

445
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:08.280
So they have replay capability here in
eighty four. I'm listen, this is

446
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:13.679
I mean, I never remember them
doing this at all. It like takes

447
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:15.800
over the whole screen. It's not
a double feature picture, right, It's

448
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.679
not like a replay where you can
see the live action. Like I just

449
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:24.679
don't recall them ever doing that on
on shows before, Like they don't show

450
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:29.280
replays at the end of matches,
right, show the highlights and stuff,

451
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:34.199
but not opening montage of the original
coliseum videos right right, you know when

452
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.480
you get like replays of certain like
kind of the big action, but never

453
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.360
never in the midst of a of
a match that was like a that was

454
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:46.000
a mid nineties or early nineties thing
that when they developed that. So I

455
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:50.119
was shocked. Yep, we get
a bit of that, and Moncion says

456
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.719
he didn't lean back far enough,
didn't arch that back far enough. Did

457
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.360
Luis Rivera on the O'Connor roll to
get the victory? So that's that's a

458
00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:01.280
demerit there. Ga Garia cartwheels away
from Luis Rivera's monkey flip attempt and Patterson

459
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.039
notices that there's really no punching and
kicking in this one. It's really a

460
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:09.000
scientific affair. As Patterson says,
he I did see a lot of guys

461
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:15.840
in uh, you know, white
lab coats at ringside science going on,

462
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:20.280
including George A. Horian. This
is too like Hogan coming back in eighty

463
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.039
three. That's where he's gonna really, I'm sure he Knews a Horian in

464
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.320
eighty two and eighty one when he
was in there. But let's not forget

465
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.760
that sweet spot where Hogan's back.
Hogan is, Hogan's a Horrian, still

466
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.000
the guy they're still taping in Allentown, And yeah, that bond is formed

467
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.679
and he becomes his his primary care
physician. We're we've got let me tell

468
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:45.360
you this at this right now is
when it becomes Halloween every day because the

469
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:46.800
boys are getting their candle. Oh
my god, you better believe it.

470
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.719
And yeah, we don't know a
lot about how Jerrem mcdivo got Wholk Coogan

471
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.239
testifying in Zahrian's trial, where whereas
Piper and everybody else had to But it

472
00:35:55.320 --> 00:36:00.599
had something to do with the fact
that Hogan had a bonafide patient relationship with

473
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.840
ZAHOI and where it wasn't just like
ever example, these guys, he wasn't

474
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.559
their doctor. He just sent him
roids in the mail. I'll say this,

475
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.679
We don't need to know why,
correct or how. We don't need

476
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:17.039
to know how u McDivitt got Hogan
out of testifying. We just need to

477
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.280
know that it happened, all right, and that archives if you're curious by

478
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.400
the way the Trial of George's Life. Yes, indeed, Patterson notices,

479
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.159
Yeah, like I said, no
punching kiss Einfeld episode. I don't know

480
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.960
if we said that will mean it's
probably Garia back down and backs down,

481
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:37.400
and Luisa Vera thinks, uh,
he's going to drop kick the top of

482
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.159
his head, and it's kind of
ugly because he just raises him. It's

483
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.039
actually, you know, I don't. I don't. It's one of the

484
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.199
mistakes that I did that. Actually
I don't mind, because yeah, this

485
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:50.840
was back when they could handle an
entering mistake. They would just react as

486
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.880
you would if someone miss trying to
attack you, yep. Whereas now it's

487
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.639
like, oh my god, if
we don't hit that spot, then I

488
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:59.400
forgot the next one. I only
know them in order. I can't do

489
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.840
them in any other Not all the
wrestlers are like that. There's some guys

490
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.840
that can, you know, call
it just fine, but most of them

491
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:07.639
will bump on a miss drop kick. They will do it. You know,

492
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:13.880
I hate that's a shame. So
Garia Snapmare for two Monsoon says,

493
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.880
well, he's not hooking the lig
or anything. He's not gonna get in

494
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:17.960
there. I think I can hear
someone tapping a pen on the desk during

495
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:22.159
the course of the broadcast. It
hasn't been a gorilla's nervous tick. Maybe

496
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.239
I bet I'm goner whip reverse Luisa
Vera to the middle rope comes flying off

497
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.159
with a cross body, but Gia
slyly rolls through the crossbody on top of

498
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:35.599
Rivera for the one, the two, and yes the three. Tony Gia

499
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.320
defeats Jose Luis Rivera and the opening
contest of this January twenty third, nineteen

500
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:44.840
eighty four shot at MSG six minutes
forty six seconds. Ladies and gentlemen,

501
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:49.119
Patterson's very pleased with the technique on
display there from Geria. And you gotta

502
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.199
love the bell sounding with no music. Guy just standing around after winning your

503
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.480
match. He just won, he
won, And that said, his presence

504
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.559
is all you need. He doesn't
throw his arms up. There's not a

505
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.360
big produced celebration. He just kind
of walks around the rainlink. All right,

506
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:05.800
job well done, playing around with
a waistband of his trunks. You

507
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:09.559
know a time of the Fall seven
forty eight. I think they said sorry

508
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:16.679
with fucking weird shaped body. Awkward
Australian one of the strange holdovers from you

509
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:21.639
know, the era where state athletic
commissions would regulate wrestling like boxing is.

510
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.760
They're required to read out the time
of the bout to the attendant, to

511
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:30.400
those in attendance, and there's a
handshake between Rivera and Garia, and we

512
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.800
can see those fucking billboards and the
rafters of the garden. Ah. Nothing

513
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.840
like a distant michelobe logo to get
me in the right head space. I

514
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:44.480
know, I know, I mean, what happened. Well, now we

515
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:49.440
just need motion, we need we
need scream. So you know, it's

516
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:57.039
just not that we need screen.
That's right. I forgot. We gotta

517
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:01.800
have screen. We gotta have scream
as well, ice cream, all of

518
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:07.639
that. So so yes, we
then, for that matter, we need

519
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.239
green screen. We'll be back.
And I think, by the way,

520
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.400
if you listen closely, I'm pretty
sure you can hear Garrilla go shit,

521
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:19.119
you forgot something to come back.
The Invaders are in light blue jackets with

522
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:24.320
navy masks. You know, I
get that they're the I get that the

523
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.760
that the Invaders, you know,
they're they're high flyers and stuff. But

524
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:34.199
I don't I don't think that it's
a good I I really had a hard

525
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:42.960
time, you know, justifying the
invaders because you think of invasion as a

526
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.960
forcible entry, which is like,
that's not a thing that I like.

527
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:52.719
But we're supposed to cheer for the
invaders. Just doesn't really work for me,

528
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.480
you know. That's what Trump would
call him today, by the way.

529
00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:00.760
Yeah, so they come out,
there's the guy in the brown suit

530
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.679
that we always want to identify,
parting the Kurt and leading the invaders to

531
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.119
the Ring of the garden. Mix
of cheers and booz of course, a

532
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.000
lot of Puerto Rican fans and attendance. They vault over the top rope or

533
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:15.039
for Jeff bart Field presiding, and
here we come their opponents. Bart That's

534
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:21.880
what they said. I don't know
them, mister Fuji and Tiger Chung Lee.

535
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.639
Yes, holding the Japanese flag high
from Osaka at two fifty three.

536
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.960
The Samuran, the samurai warrior.
I've never heard mister Fuji called the samurai

537
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:34.800
warrior. I must not be paying
close up attention. Totally a samurai,

538
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:40.559
he's studied samurai. Oh absolutely.
Meanwhile, not waving the Japanese flag because

539
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:45.079
he's from Korea and Korea and they
say that is Tiger Chung Lee with his

540
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.639
kendo stick. Shouldn't they hate each
other? I mean, don't Korean see

541
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.159
Japanese hate each other thing? At
least that's the way it was in Ricky

542
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:57.440
Dozan. Yeah, absolutely both in
black robes. When they say the opponents

543
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:00.639
hail from perto Rico, that gets
a pop. The invaders facing mister Fuji

544
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.800
and Tiger Chungley Patterson says the invaders
will do a switch and get away with

545
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.840
it because they look so similar.
So watch for that. We get our

546
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.199
ting ting ting once you rea cans
look alike? Is that what he's saying?

547
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.480
If they have the same masks on
guess, I guess that's truemall.

548
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.960
Yeah, fun fact, most people
look the same if you put the same

549
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:23.159
masks on them. Monsoon does note
that the number two is small though the

550
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:28.800
number one initially, but it's becoming
more difficult as the weeks going. It's

551
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.079
weird that that happens with Monsoon,
because you know, when I do number

552
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.480
two instead of number one, it's
usually bigger than numbers. Gorilla can attest

553
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.320
to that he resembles that remark.
As a matter of fact, indeed,

554
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:42.159
he definitely resembles the number two and
the shit he took before going ringside to

555
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:47.639
call them his ritual five pm shit
in the garden the New York Post.

556
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:54.360
Ye, it's usually about a forty
five minute affair. Forty five minutes he's

557
00:41:54.400 --> 00:42:00.840
in there, absolutely discussed, you
know, just fucking it's that kind you

558
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.880
know, when you're in a public
bathroom and you hear it and you're like,

559
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.800
oh, fuck, I gotta get
out of you. We're gonna get

560
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:19.519
through this. Tom Arnold has fucking
boss and powers. But yeah, you

561
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.880
know, there's like there're those it's
social weird thing, like, there are

562
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:24.920
those people. There are those men
who go to the bathroom and they just

563
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:31.400
fucking let loose with every fucking sound
they can when they're sitting down, and

564
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.320
it's just like, like, just
have the decency to wait for the guy

565
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.880
in the next doll to begin rustling
and putting his belt on to let loose.

566
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:43.159
He let it out gradually, like
you know, there's a way you

567
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.800
can control it to a degree,
But man, there's some guys just want

568
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.440
to fucking you know what I do
when I'm in a pinch boss in that

569
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:54.199
situation. Yes, I cough,
that's good, I cough over my,

570
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:59.880
my shitting asshole. That's right,
you're fucking you know, the the the

571
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:07.039
fucking cheek flapping, you know,
I mean the cheap, the cheap flap.

572
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.920
The cheek flapping explodes like fucking Sea
four coming out your as try to

573
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:16.239
say it's good ship now, good
ship now. So it's becoming more difficult

574
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:19.519
to tell the difference between the Invaders. Must be talked to his horion at

575
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.920
work again god uh Fuji the ominous
salt ceremony before the matchup, and Monsoon

576
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:27.320
says, I'm sure the first five
rows of Ringside have had their quota of

577
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.639
salt for the next five months.
Yeah, and that's before Fuji threw it

578
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:37.599
in the air. Uh. Everyone
checked their cholesterol before you come. Absolutely

579
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:45.840
what rather blood sugar levels? Guerrilla
we talk about that. So yes,

580
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.119
Tiger Chung Lee and Invader one lock
up. That that's Jose Gonzalez, by

581
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.000
the way, the murderer of Blues. Chung Ley smiles after the lock up,

582
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.639
and Patterson says, you can't trust
that smile. So that that's the

583
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:59.440
stereotype A live and well yeap uh. Invader one of the sun set flip

584
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.679
but the shoulder unhooked as a Monsoon
points out, So it's a failed attempt.

585
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:08.159
Boss. What does Roberto Soto and
thirty five pounds of Wendy's food have

586
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:25.360
in common? I don't know.
They're both in Vader's number two. God,

587
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:30.639
I missed the opportunity to come up
with shit like that. Oh my

588
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:39.360
god, hold on number two bathrooms
Right there, sir, here's the keys.

589
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:43.920
I'm gonna call it stumble and cheese. I'm just gonna go ahead and

590
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:49.840
call a fire department. Now tagged
to invader. Two quick tags over and

591
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.280
over. Makes no sense, they
I mean, just to me, to

592
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:57.440
me this, actually, it seems
like you would be counterproductive. They jump

593
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.880
over the rope, they tag,
They jump over the rope right second passes

594
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.960
between tags, and like, to
me, you're you're you're spending more gas

595
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:07.360
doing this then you would, if
you know, you just kind of like

596
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:12.599
like nobody's resting during this moment.
Everyone you just keep fucking jumping up and

597
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.960
down, back and forth. That's
one of the biggest absurdities in wrestling that

598
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:21.000
like masks as guys knowing what they're
doing is quick tags. It's so stupid.

599
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:22.559
It makes no fucking sense. What
are you talking about? The guy

600
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:28.639
you quick tag did nothing like he
didn't do anything right, right, So

601
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:30.440
why did it matter that he got
in there fresh when he just left?

602
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.719
Also, you know what, I
what I think would be a better idea

603
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:39.079
is you tag, you get your
five seconds, right, do a double

604
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:44.559
team move, then tag again.
You got another five seconds. Like that

605
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:46.800
to me would be make sense.
Keep doing double team moves. But these

606
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:50.639
are just this is just stupid.
Yeah, yeah, that's true. If

607
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.159
if if a guy's holding an arm
and you come down in an arm,

608
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.039
that makes sense. Yeah, but
that's still not a quick tag thing.

609
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.719
Like why did you need a fresh
guy to twist the arm and leave and

610
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.119
then just come back? Why did
the old Why does the guy who's not

611
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:05.440
fresh twist the arm, go in
the airpron and come back in the ring?

612
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.880
What's the point of that? I
mean, you know, you could

613
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:09.760
just do the double team in the
five seconds you have without the tag,

614
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.400
can't you? Maybe maybe not,
Maybe that's a decus, maybe that's a

615
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.199
Q. So, yeah, they
do that, and Patterson says there's a

616
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:23.639
lot of times, uh, it's
I don't know what. He says,

617
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:27.199
something about how that that's an advisable
thing to do. They do it like

618
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:29.639
eight times, and they're leaping into
the ring over the top, over and

619
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.960
over again, and they cut to
Fuji totally nonplussed by this display by the

620
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:36.079
invaders. They're jumping off the mat
like it's lava, you know, Like,

621
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:39.199
yeah, they're bouncing off of the
thing, and Patterson assures us that

622
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:45.960
mister Fuji is indeed upset as grillhamnsoon
calls Tiger Chung Lee chunger. As he

623
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.199
picks up in Vader two and two
rolls out of the corner, he calls

624
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.960
him chunger several times. I didn't
even hear that, and then I'm both

625
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:55.760
upset at myself from hearing me,
but also I'm glad I didn't hear it.

626
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.280
Tact to Fuji, Patterson calls him
one of the meanest men in wrestling.

627
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:04.599
This man lovesishment. Yeah, they
I mean Gerrilla lifts off the devious

628
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:09.880
natures of of of mister Fuji,
dangerous individual master of the martial arts.

629
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:15.440
Can hurt you so many ways.
Some of them permanent, well that's what

630
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:22.199
he enjoys, so awesome, so
goofy, so campy. Some of them

631
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.480
permanent, Okay, whatever that means. So you say, like he could.

632
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:29.679
He's gonna kill you, like that's
what he means. Yeah, compromise

633
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:31.800
you to a permanent end, as
John Cena once said about Osama bin Laden.

634
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.679
Yes, he's been compromised to a
permanent what if fun? Does that

635
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.920
mean? Can his marine stance?
He does? We can't say we killed

636
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.480
them. You're gonna say exactly what
it was. He's been compromised. You

637
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.119
can't say. We can't say kill
on on TVPG. You can't say hospital.

638
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:51.840
You definitely can't say killed medical facility. And I'll say this, say,

639
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.639
uh, someone bin Laden has been
compromised, taken to a medical facility,

640
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:01.400
and uh, further compromise to a
permanent nature. Right, and he

641
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:08.599
got his teeth knocked down his throat
instead of saying he got punched. So

642
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:14.320
Fuji breaks a smile and a has
a right hand and shot in right to

643
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.679
the gut. And I mean,
could you tell which invader was which?

644
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:21.079
No? I had to rely on
the announcers for the most gorilla. No,

645
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.119
I don't know. He's looking at
some visual queue. I guess maybe

646
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.840
they got numbers on their boots.
I like. And Fuji gets hit in

647
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.920
the gut with a right hand and
somehow he sells getting punched in the stomach,

648
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.840
not by double doubling over, but
flying in the air and taking a

649
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.360
flat back bump. Total decleading for
a punch in the stomach. I see

650
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.800
no problem. Czars. Invader one
jumps in and under the ring three times.

651
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.199
I guess to distract the ref.
There's not even a double team going

652
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.400
on. He's going he's going into
the ring, out of the ring,

653
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:46.679
in the ring, out of the
ring, and no one is in his

654
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:51.320
half of the ring while he's doing
this. He's he I don't like the

655
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.119
Invaders. It looks like when one
of the WW video games glitches. Yes,

656
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:58.760
yes, number two ducks chopping a
cross body one two in an arm

657
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:00.960
drag is Pat Patterson's lapffing his ass
off at the pissed off look on mister

658
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:05.280
Fuji's face. I mean, Fuji's
face is money. It always has been,

659
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:08.840
absolutely always has hair is frizzy during
a match. Oh and like especially

660
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:13.920
here where he's got his this weird
kind of you know, he's got this

661
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:21.840
this very very like just not like
his hair is very it's very bad right

662
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:25.280
now. Okay, it's not healthy, No, it's not It's not a

663
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:29.559
healthy head of hair, that's true. Tiger Chungley gets the tag in and

664
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:31.679
there's a tag to Invader Wan to
tackle the ropes by the way sagging like

665
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.960
hell, oh my god, they're
so loose, mounting around like crazy.

666
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.440
When these guys hit the map,
you know what to you know what.

667
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:44.360
I noticed this for for a match
later on, but it kind of affects

668
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:51.039
the whole show. Just the sound
of metal every every time they fucking move,

669
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:54.920
Like there's so much metal hitting metal
under the ring. You know,

670
00:49:55.159 --> 00:50:02.079
it's so awesome. It's like it's
like it feels like they're on a fucking

671
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:08.400
rickety bridge fall apart at any moment. Yeah, it's made of it's made

672
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:13.719
of rusty metal. You know,
it screws that haven't been screwed in all

673
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.559
the way. Yeah, like under
there, it looks like a carnival ride

674
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:22.559
exactly. Like it's just safe,
like exactly. You know, I get

675
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:24.159
that you checked it last week,
but did you really check it. I'm

676
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:28.760
looking at the guy who checked it
and it was the same sweatpants he's been

677
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:35.000
wearing all week. So a quick
arm drag by number two. By the

678
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.559
way, you were convinced these guys
knew what they were doing, even though

679
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.559
everything they did was ludicrous. I
know that was magical to me. That

680
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:44.559
is that is the thing, like
you know because I'll tell you what it's

681
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.559
because the announcers said that. Yes, announcers would say they know what they're

682
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:51.920
doing. And so you believe it
because and they said it in a steady

683
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:53.320
tone of voice. They didn't sound
like they're trying to sell you something.

684
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:59.960
And because back then it was like
they had credibility. The announcers had credible

685
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.960
and so you believe them. Such
a key thing. That's amazing because now

686
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.360
they're reading ad copy and they're worried
about time cues and and you know,

687
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.440
they do what they have to do
in the job today, but it's like

688
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:14.039
they're like cheerleaders and they're sort of
like they're there to add it like energy

689
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:19.039
to the broadcast when it's not necessarily
happening in the ring. They they need

690
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:23.800
to provide it in a different way, like they they need to be that

691
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.480
extra element that you know, it's
like it's great to be in a match,

692
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:32.519
to be at a wrestling event live, of course, but you lose,

693
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.079
you're supposed to lose something because you
don't hear the commentators. You know

694
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:42.239
you need that team to sell it. You know, so many, so

695
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.760
many matches, what was it?
It was a yeah, Wrestling at thirteen

696
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.239
And I didn't even know it until
we went through it because that when we

697
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:53.920
after we went through Wrestling at thirteen, I had heard Brett on Austin's podcast

698
00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:05.079
back then, and Brett and Austin
talked about how important Vince Lawler and Jr.

699
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:08.599
Were to make that match great.
Yes, of course, and it's

700
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:13.679
like and then we did it when
we did the Journey. I remember going

701
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:17.199
hearing it and like, holy shit, they really do like that, they

702
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:22.920
really make it, they take it
to that next level, and it's not

703
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:29.119
like that anymore. I mean,
and again it really comes down to credibility

704
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:36.480
and no one fucking believes you know, when they started doing I think when

705
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:38.559
I mean, it all happened when
when they get rid of JR. When

706
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:42.920
you get rid of JR. And
you put Michael Cole in his place,

707
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:50.599
who really at that time nobody,
nobody liked and nobody you know, he

708
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:54.880
couldn't match JR. It's just like
they spent years trying to find someone for

709
00:52:54.920 --> 00:53:00.559
that seat. Yep, and it's
just like you it didn't officially groom someone

710
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:05.880
to be that guy, and so
you don't have they have, They have

711
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.360
yet to build back that credibility.
And there is no one really left of

712
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:13.039
the vintage that had those instincts,
the pre Vince instincts. There is,

713
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.920
but there's there is a dearth of
people you could bring in that learned wrestling

714
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:22.639
announcing in a territorial system where being
able to present it as credible was job

715
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:28.920
number one. And while Jr.
You know, morphed himself beautifully to satisfy

716
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.400
what the Monday Night Wars called for
in terms of enthusiasm on the headset,

717
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:37.920
he still knew when to sprinkle in
that Gordon Soley level of the leveling the

718
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.840
call, you know, the the
the tenor of the call, right,

719
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.960
And yeah, that's why we love
him. And that's why it doesn't seemly

720
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.360
anyone's done anywhere near as well as
he has, right, because no one

721
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:52.239
has that has I don't think anyone
has that bag of instincts to dip into

722
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.199
when it comes to like, all
right now, any switch gears. Now,

723
00:53:55.239 --> 00:54:00.239
I'm not selling anything, now,
I am commentating. You know,

724
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.079
So he go to a boxing show
like for Better or worse like until the

725
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:05.440
main events in the ring, everyone's
acting bored out of their mind. The

726
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.280
announcers, the judges, the fans
even in something. I mean there's they're

727
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.199
watching the action, but it's just
sort of like there's like a quiet buzz

728
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.599
of like, Okay, we're all
here, we're underway. Actions happening,

729
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:17.599
sports as are happening, and maybe
one day this kid will be something.

730
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.760
But it's not like we have to
speak. It's not like it's on the

731
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:27.639
announcers to make things sound energetic.
It either is or it isn't. Yeah,

732
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:31.400
so they're a pretty ugly headlock takeover
tempt by Invader number one as Tiger

733
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:36.719
Chungley doesn't really budge and backs off
like he dodged something. Instead, mister

734
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:38.480
Fuji chokes number one the tag rope
from the apron Number one, not even

735
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:42.079
trying to grab with his hands to
bry it off, just standing there with

736
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:47.480
his hands by his side with a
rope around his neck. Ceesus Christ Fuji

737
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:51.519
comes up with the hayak chop and
a body slam, then does his headbut

738
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:54.719
falling to the crotch of Invader number
one and he bows with the face you

739
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:59.239
know the face, they get that
tight shote. You can see it right

740
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.119
now. Ah, the head is
slightly tilted, you know. Ah,

741
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:09.440
my yocal fua. That's exactly correct. By But by the way, Ringside

742
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:13.639
all adults. So while Vince's policy
is about to be implemented, it hadn't.

743
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:15.800
I think it just had happened.
It was in the Observer that we

744
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:21.360
read from like April eighty three that
Vince was instituting the clear out the Ringsiders

745
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.079
policy. No we need to have
children. We don't. We're not going

746
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:28.119
to have these fucking grandma's anymore.
Right, It's all like thirty forty year

747
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.880
old guys. For the most part, we were I'm tired of having the

748
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:34.119
grandma's right, right, I need
to have drinking beers, you know.

749
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.159
Yeah, yet listen, I'm not
going to have you know, Grandma Ethel

750
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:40.880
sitting you know, ringside, waiting
for Brunos San Martino to come out.

751
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.599
Oh, by the way, the
exit sign on the hard camera side for

752
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:50.599
your comfort, Yes, oh,
on that hard camera. Tiger Tunnley shoots

753
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:52.360
him, shoots in a sidekick.
Grill Monson says, it helps to know

754
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:58.000
the difference between a bristlock and a
wristwatch when You're the referee backdrop by Tiger

755
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:00.360
Chun Lee. He covers for two
and like I said that, Matt also

756
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.840
has kind of a low boom sound
to it in addition to the rattle,

757
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.559
like a low yes yes. Fuji
with the Trapeziess hold one of his favorites.

758
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:12.519
It's one of those that it's one
of those where's like, I you

759
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.679
know, I know, I know
what's it's like, this hurts. This

760
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:21.360
actually really does hurt because it's not
the kind of ring that you you know,

761
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:25.719
it's not a fucking Jim matt All. You probably better off getting slammed

762
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:30.639
on concrete. Fuji suplex is invader
nicely and a second tries blocked and number

763
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.719
one scores with the suplex of his
own. Monsoon says, the suplex is

764
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.800
so dangerous. If you don't time
it right in that instance and you turn

765
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:39.800
your man loose, you get the
worst of it. So every move wrestlers

766
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:44.360
do apparently can backfire on you,
which is pretty cool psychology. Yeah,

767
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:45.920
I don't mind it, but you
should. I mean, you know,

768
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:51.400
I think that that that actually makes
every move seem a little more uh uh

769
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:54.320
again credible. Yeah, you know
It's like, yeah, that would be

770
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:59.679
nice if Seth hurt himself on a
top rope superplex in a falcon arrow one

771
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:02.320
time. Instead of always being a
clean execution that hurts the other guy.

772
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:06.320
I would love it if he hurt
himself and didn't come back to stuff.

773
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:14.440
Fuji goes off top and he's launched
Gorilla press slams, and then Inventter number

774
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:15.880
two comes in a house of fire. Tiger Chunk Lee goes inside out of

775
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:21.079
the corner. He's a regular raced
evens out there hell on wheels. Was

776
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:25.000
Tiger Chung Lee who in the play
for you when he was doing the uh

777
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:34.039
uh the trapezius hold. This is
what they they bring. Patterson brings up

778
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:37.559
the subject of masks. Now we're
talking about masks. You know, you

779
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:44.920
know they always called you gorilla.
Yes, let's let's start a fight now,

780
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:51.519
Fuji going to work. Look at
those fingers digging in there. I

781
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:53.639
know you were always happen when somebody
ended you a banana, You got that

782
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:57.400
right. I had a lot of
them thrown at me over the years.

783
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:02.159
Right here Madison Square Garden. I
got a hold off on that. Yeah,

784
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.159
but that no, But we're talking
about the ones that were thrown at

785
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.440
you, Gorilla, No one one's
waiting for you in the dressing room,

786
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:17.199
the ones that you caught and ate
either such weird sense of humor between those

787
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:22.039
two so so weird. Uh So
Number two keeps cooking irish whipping a backdrop,

788
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:28.320
and then Tiger Chung Lee comes alive
with a side of supplex and absolutely

789
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.159
drops in Vader two on his fucking
head like it's my god, all of

790
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.159
a sudden, it's correct one hall, but that only gets a one count.

791
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.519
Gorilla says that would that could terminate
your career right there? Throw it

792
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.760
at your contract exactly, And he's
not talking about the move, we realize

793
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.840
Gorilla is pointing to Vince Junior when
he says that, ah, would you

794
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:49.239
with the gut brand Suplex gets too? Is Number one makes the safe?

795
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:51.760
Number one does it again and leaps
over the ropes and then right back onto

796
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.519
the apron, over and over again
they do before that when when after that

797
00:58:54.639 --> 00:59:01.320
move they uh. At some point
the food and and Chungley are are posing

798
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:07.599
and Gorilla is not not a fan
of that. The Claus come at home

799
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:13.840
in the living room when you're watching
the replay. Okay, thanks gorilla,

800
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.800
would you with a nerve hold on? Number one on the hop gets chopped

801
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:22.239
down by Fuji so On pat Patterson's
were splendent, crunchy brown blonde hair visible

802
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:25.039
in the foreground at the bottom of
your screen. Oh my god, you

803
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:32.079
know you can't hof was it's it's
that it's that blonde that you hair spray.

804
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:36.519
You're well, and you're kind of
like, is it is it yellow?

805
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:42.239
Because he's been around so many cigarettes, right, it is it naturally

806
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.440
that blonde? That color? Is
that gross color? Lots of weird smells

807
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:50.280
in Thereva Or two breaks free from
a bear hug and tries to make a

808
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:52.480
tag but doesn't make it, as
Monsoon says, it's, you know,

809
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:58.760
tough peripheral vision and it's tough to
breathe with a mask on. And Monsoon

810
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:00.760
said he's glad he never had to, uh, you know where a mask

811
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:02.880
and get used to that. He
thinks it'd be difficult for him, and

812
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:06.840
Patterson says he never had to hide
my beautiful face. But there we go,

813
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.880
Fuji doing a nerve hold and it
looks like he's actually doing it Invader

814
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:14.480
two's lower back. They sneak at
tag in a Fuji, Monsoon says,

815
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:17.679
did you expect him to say he's
here? He? Oh, yeah,

816
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:25.000
okay, So the ref confronts Fuji
for you know, like a sneaky tack

817
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:30.760
where the ref is suspecting that it's
the guy's entering illegally, and Monsoon says,

818
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:36.280
did you expect him to say I'm
here illegally? Well, gorilla depends

819
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:39.239
what you mean. So Patterson says
he knows he was always happy with the

820
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:46.840
banana thing. Yep, tremendous kidney
area beating grilla, Monsoon tells us by

821
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:51.440
actually was saying with tremendous kidney beans
is what he was saying. Camera number

822
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.280
five picking up the close up of
Fuji grabbing number two's love handles a month

823
01:00:54.320 --> 01:01:04.960
Soon tells us grabbing his fucking plantain. Invader in one Invader one in with

824
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:07.440
chops and a drop kick. Fuji
takes a pump and makes a tag Irish

825
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:09.159
whip in a chop and Tiger Chung
Lee no sells and smiles through it is

826
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:14.119
there's a corner to corner Irish whip
and Vader Number one hits the buckle middle

827
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:17.039
rope leaps into a cross body on
Tiger Chung Lee, who catches him and

828
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:22.400
drops him with the Manhattan drop.
Fuji Yes holding the tag rope, turns

829
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.000
to the crowd and bows and smiles
looking for applause reference. Distracted by Invader

830
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:30.119
number two and they double team the
invader Irish Whip number one ducks dropkick,

831
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:34.119
floors Tiger Chung Lee corner to corner. He misses the splash in the corner

832
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.239
and collapses. Does Invader number one. There's a cover, but it only

833
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.800
gets one tagged to Invader number two. No pop whatsoever. A lot of

834
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:44.039
these fucking one counts in this show. I know I've noticed in this match,

835
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:47.719
in particular with on a dropkick and
a jackknife cradle nothing. These guys

836
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.039
continue kicking out. At one Invader
number one comes in sits down. It's

837
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:54.639
probably because they are calling spots and
they confuse. Yet one with number one.

838
01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:59.559
Number one comes in, sits down
to the knee of Tiger Chung Lee's

839
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:01.320
number one, who holds it in
place. Quick tags back and forth.

840
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:05.840
He splashes the leg of Tiger Chung
Lee. Another tag. The crowd's up,

841
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:07.920
so they do it again, and
they do it again. The crowd's

842
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:13.920
kind of getting into them splashing Tiger
Chung's legs Lee over Tiger Chung Lee's leg

843
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:16.400
over and over again. It's so
stupid and it looks like they go for

844
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:20.639
the spinning toe hold, but Tiger
Chunley kicks off. He comes up limping

845
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:22.519
number two with an ankle pick and
grape lines the leg. Fuji comes into

846
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.880
the leg dive and they do the
same thing to Fuji's like, all right,

847
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:29.599
they do the same fucking thing they
do is splashing, working the legs

848
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:31.599
with the fucking you know what,
I'll tell you what. The last thing

849
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:36.480
I'd want to do is use my
belly on a fucking knee. Right.

850
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:39.840
Hurt, hurt my stomach. I've
knocked the right out of myself. So

851
01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:44.639
an abominal stretch applied by Invader number
one on mister Fuji. As pat Patterson

852
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.320
tells his Fuji OANs a lot of
rice fields in Japan. Oh yeah here

853
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:52.000
listen. Yeah, because he's a
wealthy guy, very well good man in

854
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:58.800
Japan holds a lot of rice field
and has a lot of people working for

855
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:02.760
him. Did I have the bell
ring? Yeah? Maybe a rice field.

856
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:07.920
That's the Patterson lost in translation where
he takes plural words and makes them

857
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:12.440
singular and takes plural words and does
the first vice versa. And then Tiger

858
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.400
chung Ley gets in and almost gets
abdominal stretched in his own right. Gril

859
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:17.599
Monsoon, though criticizing if he hasn't
hooked as he locks it out. And

860
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:24.440
now Gril Monsoon calls him mister Chunger. Oh god, mister Chunger, Miss

861
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:28.280
Chunger, a boss, get rid
of the sea. And you've got a

862
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:31.760
name for Vader too. Also you've
also got a name for what Gorilla is

863
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:35.840
feeling. Right now, Fuji comes
in blind sides in Vader one with the

864
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.280
referee distracted, and you better believe
Gridle Monsoon calls it a what yeh?

865
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:43.719
What do they call him? Pearl
harbor? Job, pearl harbor? Right

866
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:45.639
right, Vader one slides under the
leg and makes the tag. Monsoon says.

867
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:52.280
The ref is asking Fuji something.
Maybe he's where do you get your

868
01:03:52.320 --> 01:04:00.960
soy sauce or something, because he
don't always go on like oh uh oh,

869
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:04.159
Gorilla, that's you asking the question. I know it's because you got

870
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:09.360
sushi on your fucking plate right now, not thinking about tomorrow's dinner. I

871
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:13.039
can't, I can't, it's so
fat. Did you have what Gorilla mon

872
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.559
Soon said last night on wrestling,
He should about mister Fuji, where'd you

873
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:23.800
get your soy sauce? Oh?
Ship, guys in hard hats recap the

874
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:28.440
msg ship right, and we should
you know, we should do guys,

875
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:31.159
we should go to the garden next
month, all right, and we'll ask

876
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:42.000
mister Fuji whever soy sauce is pretty
much awesome? Like that's like Steve Austin

877
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:45.199
in the sportatorium. Hey, hey, Fuji, where'd you get your damn

878
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:50.719
soy sauce? On? Fresh out
of college having a beer with his buddy

879
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:55.920
from the long Shoreman's Union. Remember
the fuck he was doing, laughing at

880
01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:02.519
his own joke with his You know
that that big gaping left. So yes,

881
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:04.679
they don't have it hooked properly.
Of course, they don't have it

882
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:09.239
hooked properly. The commonal stretch,
they say, Tito Santana, we do

883
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:12.360
it perfectly with his long legs and
arms. Oh my god, So that's

884
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:14.920
what you know. Apparently to do
a proper abdominal stretch you need to have

885
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:17.519
long legs and arms. These arms
and legs are too short for that kind

886
01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:20.719
of hold, they say. Pier
four brawl breaks out, double whip into

887
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:25.320
each other. Go Tiger Chungley and
mister Fuji do a big pop. They

888
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:29.239
do kind of that rowboat submission where
you kind of grab the legs and make

889
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:33.199
like a star and row them on
the on the on the mat. They

890
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:36.440
do the bell sounds and everyone's cheering, and Monsoon says, do we have

891
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:42.800
a disqualification? The time ran out
for? What? What he is qualified

892
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:45.840
for? Ref's just looking at the
invaders sitting on the mat holding the legs

893
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:48.400
of their opponents, and they both
jump up in the air like frogs for

894
01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:54.119
some reason. There's the guy in
the sweater again not identified, and twenty

895
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:57.960
minute time limit has expired. It's
not a submission. In fact, this

896
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:00.880
match ruled a draw. Who the
fuck? No, actually, you know

897
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:04.719
what, the dog and drew this
crowd. It was not a draw at

898
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:10.719
all. What fucking what? Who
said that this should go twenty minutes?

899
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:13.880
I don't know, man, I
don't know what the psychology would have been,

900
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:21.679
so like, oh, this this
match was so lethargic and so dreadful.

901
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:25.880
I think it was that bad geezh. I hated it. I hate

902
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:28.679
I was so fucking bored. They
were on the move the whole time,

903
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.280
the only Yeah, but I didn't
care. Well, yeah, that's that's

904
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:34.599
true. And so it just was
so fucking dull for me, and I'm

905
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:38.199
like, okay, can we get
you know, I was like, can

906
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:42.079
we get to like the next match
and stuff, because I just did not

907
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.239
care about this one at all and
I thought it was just so dull,

908
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:47.599
even though they're doing all this weird
wacky jumping, flip and flopping shit.

909
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:51.440
Break about they do a break that
come back strong Bow and mass Superstar are

910
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:54.719
in the ring and then they go
to break again. They would do this

911
01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:57.840
a lot where they would just come
back for like ten seconds and then go

912
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:00.280
to another break. Right, it's
so weird that they would do that.

913
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:02.880
I never really I didn't get it, Like, why bother coming back?

914
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:06.000
Just do an extra long fucking commercial
break. Yeah, that just happened a

915
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:09.159
lot with live TV shows. It
happens with football too. You know.

916
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:11.880
They come back and they showed like
two minutes of things, they go to

917
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:15.719
another break. There must be like
a consideration for hitting the exact top of

918
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:17.280
the hour or something. Depends though, it depends on what it is.

919
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.079
Though. It's like, you know, they do do that sometimes, but

920
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:28.480
usually there's like a an on like
an on field reason that it happened,

921
01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:30.639
Like it's never usually just like we
don't. They don't ever come back and

922
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:34.119
like, hey we're back and way
back again. No, not with the

923
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:38.639
game going on. But you wonder
why they even come back if nothing is

924
01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:43.559
worth broadcasting yet you know that's what's
kind of weird, right, So they

925
01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:45.000
go to it, they put the
graphic up and ding ding ding, So

926
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.800
it's Mass Superstar versus Chief j Strongbow. But of course, as we talked

927
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:53.519
about in Part one, very interesting
time for Mass Superstar Bill Eity at this

928
01:07:53.599 --> 01:08:00.840
point having been in consideration potentially to
be the transitional champion between Backman and Hulk

929
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:08.039
Cogan instead of the Iron Cheek and
here because you imagine, I don't think

930
01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:12.280
I really contemplated this, but Demolition
Acts being former world champion, well yeah,

931
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:15.079
I mean he probably never would have
become Demolition Acts if he had a

932
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:18.399
WWF title run. True, although
then again the Iron Cheeks he could become

933
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:21.840
a tag team wrestler, tight team
champion, absolutely true, absolutely true.

934
01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:26.720
And so here is a Billity.
He's speaking to James Romero on the Wrestling

935
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:30.960
shoot interviews YouTube page about what he
heard about his name being in the mix.

936
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:38.600
The story that I got was that
I didn't have the amateur background,

937
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:45.560
therefore someone who had an amateur background
had to beat him. M So,

938
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:51.000
I mean, it is professional wrestling, it's not amateur wrestling. So that's

939
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:55.439
what I was told. But that
was that was brought up, yes,

940
01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:05.479
by Vince Senior. And then it
was told that the individual that was involved

941
01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:10.319
in it didn't want to lose as
somebody who didn't have an amateur background.

942
01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:15.239
So this centers the chic individual that
was involved in it. It's a lot

943
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:21.479
easier to just say Bob Backland Bill, I don't know what that's about it.

944
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:26.800
Well, you know, I'll tell
you. He's sounding. He sounds

945
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:32.199
creepily like like Dory Funk Jr.
Yeah, he does similar vocal quality.

946
01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:36.359
So we have Jay Strongbow. He
looks like such a hack at this point,

947
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:41.000
Oh my, such a lackey allowed
to still go out there in trunks.

948
01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:45.920
What I mean he singlet just embarrassing. It's embarrassing to see this this

949
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:51.560
what is he like fifty at this
point, He's a fucking what a loser.

950
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:58.199
This fucking guy red mask on the
mass Superstar and here's this is what

951
01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:03.039
h Gorilla. Well, here's Gorilla
talking about Chief j Strongbow and how exciting

952
01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:09.119
this match is going to be.
Just another excited match here at Madison Square

953
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:12.600
Garden on this all star jam pack
car, topel rings and we're underway.

954
01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:16.840
Chief really got his work cut out
long tonight. But boy, he could

955
01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:20.720
take anybody on any given at night. Guaranteed He's got the speed, the

956
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:25.880
agility and not hard and to know
how and rings savvy, which is so

957
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:30.960
important. It was like these guys
were trying to pop themselves with these Seriously,

958
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:35.000
he's Vince Senior like lieutenants that were
allowed to have jobs, you know,

959
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:40.199
right, They're just trying to like
talk about mister fucking you know,

960
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:44.960
Grandpa's strong Bow out. You know
who can do all who has all the

961
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:50.359
agility and the fucking the tomahawk logo
and his purple singlet know how and wherewithal

962
01:10:50.600 --> 01:11:00.399
and right and uh barbausol And that's
good. Monthson says, you were looking

963
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:03.760
at years of experience on that face
of Strongbow, the troubles of the world

964
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:12.680
that'sed on the face of the troubles
of the fans, the face of j

965
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:16.800
Strongbow, Kay strong Bow looking like
a Simpson's character in real life really is

966
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:20.720
Oh my god, it kind of
looks like that. There's that sad,

967
01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:26.279
drunken most turn there. Who's the
easiest pro wrestler to drop for the Simpsons

968
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:30.279
chief J Strongbow Ja strongbow exactly.
We see Patterson take off his headset for

969
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:32.199
some reason. There must be some
technical difficulties as a strong boo goes to

970
01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:35.359
the headlock tackle and another headlock.
Patterson back on the air now is a

971
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:40.359
strong bow with a baseball slide underneath
the legs of mass Superstar. See that

972
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:42.520
was impressive for an old man of
that age. I'm how old? Can

973
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:45.800
I figure how old he actually was? Because I take a look he I'm

974
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:49.640
sure he's not his his prime was
this mid seventies, so yeah, but

975
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:53.680
he looked I mean, he looks
ancient at this point. He really does,

976
01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:57.640
you know, like his body is
just all wrinkled and disheveled and shit.

977
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:00.439
Kinda I kind of like the idea. I'd like these guys due to

978
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:04.079
loyalty and due to their proximity of
the territory getting booked in the garden,

979
01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:08.399
even though when they go home they
look like every other slob at the VFW.

980
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:11.760
But they still, you know,
every Saturday, once a month,

981
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:15.239
they still can get in the the
oldsmobile and motor up and drive to the

982
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:18.159
biggest arena in the world and get
that rush one more time from the crowd

983
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:21.119
because they don't care what he looks
like. He's Chief J Strongbow. You

984
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:26.159
know, fifty six was almost funny
that he's yeah fat, you know,

985
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:29.960
right, fifty years old, Chief
J Strongbow. At this point, I

986
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.640
would that's older than I would have
guessed actually from Nutley, New Jersey.

987
01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:39.640
Right, So Patterson guarantees a Jay
strong Bow will go for that mask,

988
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:43.479
try to rip it off Superstar Mass
Superstar drops down to a cradle for the

989
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:47.800
one too. J Strongbow's breast is
popping out, his tit is showing his

990
01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:54.520
tit, Chief J Strongbow having a
wardrobe. Malfund. Patterson says, he's

991
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:58.960
won eck of a wrestler, take
that h out eck of a wrestler of

992
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:02.479
a wrestler. And then a Mass
Superstar gets free and ducks ducks under the

993
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:06.560
rope like a coward, and Patterson
says, thousands of people ask him who

994
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:10.600
is under that mask? Here?
Here? I got this one for you,

995
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:16.079
because this is just fucking amazing.
I would love to see the mask

996
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:23.159
come off you and about twenty three
thousand others here tonight. There's thousands and

997
01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:26.199
thousands of people that ask me all
the time, who do you think the

998
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:30.760
mask superstyle? I guess this is
good of anyone. I don't know.

999
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:34.960
I could guess a lot of things, but guessing is not telling the truth.

1000
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:41.560
I thought I knew it one time, but I was way out trauma

1001
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:45.960
off the most pass. What the
fuck is going on? What the fuck

1002
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.079
it? I don't know who it
is, but I thought I knew one

1003
01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:49.800
time, and I knew that was
wrong. It doesn't even say we thought

1004
01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:55.840
it was. This is fucking it's
so embarrassed to say that's right here.

1005
01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:59.199
It keeps, it gets better.
It's the big chop o, big one

1006
01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:02.640
of us. All right. Back
to the side headlock. They tell me

1007
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:06.800
that when he's in the locker room
after a match, he will turn his

1008
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:13.199
back to whivers around him, the
mask off real fast and put him into

1009
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:15.439
a mask on and going to Charlotte. Winter's got a very light one that

1010
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:20.720
he wears. Yep, like a
cheese cloth type thing goes Gorilla dad a

1011
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:29.039
cheesecloth off type thing. Oh my
god, was he with Pat Patterson?

1012
01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:33.960
Know what mass superstar does in the
shower. Anyway, Gorilla goes, oh,

1013
01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:35.880
and that reminds me, I gotta
go tick out my I gotta go

1014
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:41.840
look at my cheddar. Yeah,
count it with a visor on. Count

1015
01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:45.199
the cheddar. Well, I'm eating
cheddar. Oh my god, truly amazing.

1016
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:56.680
Fucking Gorilla Monson sitting in this dark
fucking room, all right, with

1017
01:14:56.880 --> 01:15:01.600
one overhead light. He's counting money. He's counting cheddar, and he's slicing

1018
01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:06.560
cheddar and putting on a rich cracker. All right, he counts cheddar,

1019
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:18.079
he slices cheddar. Gino Morella tremendous. Cant wait for the Brian Solomon book.

1020
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.520
By the way, the guy who
book is going to do a monsoon

1021
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:25.760
one, and he's he's been putting
out some quotes from like Gorilla's wife.

1022
01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:30.560
Oh oh much, man, I
can't wait. Oh god, he loves

1023
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:44.119
that gobba gul sandwich. I thought
gobble gobba goole sandwich. All right,

1024
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.439
there's an over the shoulder shot of
a photographer and we're getting that international coverage,

1025
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.279
we're told, and rightly so it's
a big night, of course.

1026
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:56.720
And then uh, let's see Chief
day Strongbow drops mass Superstar with a chop

1027
01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:00.319
and grabs for the mask. They
like that in the bill. But masked

1028
01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:03.840
Superstar slips under the rope. One
of the Commissioner's springs right out of his

1029
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:06.239
seat because he thinks it's about to
get Harry down there. Yeah right,

1030
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:11.119
And what a look at that MSG
floor all brown? Oh my god,

1031
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:15.239
it's so gross. No pretense there, baby, that's just the floor that

1032
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.119
is just you know, there is
God, every every substance known to man.

1033
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:24.560
Eighty four Are you kidding me?
I've been soaked into that cement floor.

1034
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:29.439
Just let's just start with cigarette ashes, right, Oh, absolutely in

1035
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:30.840
the garden in eighty four because I
don't see anyone smoking him. Maybe you

1036
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:35.560
couldn't. I'm probably not. I
don't know, like were they. I

1037
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:40.800
don't know what the The whole idea
of smoky arena is, right right anyway?

1038
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:45.159
Maybe maybe that was why Vince used
to say derogatorily that the other organizations

1039
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:49.520
ran in smoke field arena is because
they didn't allow smoking a MSG. So

1040
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:56.960
Patterson says he's got a right to
be hot, so why should he be

1041
01:16:56.960 --> 01:17:00.720
able to go for a mask.
He's he's basically sticking up from Superstar here

1042
01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:03.159
and that you know, there's no
real basis for Ja Strongbow to be attacking

1043
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:06.720
the mask of the man he says. You know, for example, he's

1044
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:12.199
not gonna pull uh, Mass Superstar
isn't gonna pull Jay Strongbow's tights off.

1045
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:17.760
Unfortunately he doesn't say that. Then
Mass Superstar barks and you can hear Id's

1046
01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:20.720
voice. You know, yeah,
that sounds like that sounds like act saying

1047
01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:25.479
I'm gonna break your neck. And
then Strongbow doing the war dance with his

1048
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:29.680
stupid shaped head, and they're with
it in the crowd. They like it.

1049
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:33.880
They like the war dance. Thank
you, uh Italian chief Ja Strongbow

1050
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:40.840
for doing war dance. Arpa is
fresh from pulling slots for six hours,

1051
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:45.840
that's right, and he's his his
wife's back home making some real cutlets.

1052
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:51.239
I do kind of like red sauce
dinners in Jersey. After regarding the show,

1053
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:56.560
you know, that's a Monday night. When he comes home. What

1054
01:17:56.720 --> 01:17:59.640
he wants, you know, his
wife's in bed, but you know what

1055
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.319
he demands is that when he comes
home, he's got you know, he's

1056
01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:09.199
got a veal cutlet some some some
linguini with marinara, you know, homemade

1057
01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:13.279
marinara, and some garlic bread you
know that he can reheat for quickly in

1058
01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:17.239
the oven. It wants, all
right, like garlic bread, beer,

1059
01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:21.479
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, exactly. He

1060
01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:27.720
loves his schlitz and uh and uh
you know, and then also you know

1061
01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:31.800
he likes to eat just some some
raw tomatoes too. I don't understand why

1062
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:39.560
people have n't figured out by now
that the laps fan is about what the

1063
01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:45.720
kitchen looks like after the matches,
That's what it's about. Or getting food

1064
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:47.840
in the hotel room. I want
to know, right, I want to

1065
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:51.680
know exactly. I want to know
what. I want to imagine what these

1066
01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:59.640
guys eat when they get home.
Okay, the most important part, so

1067
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.119
good, the most important party,
you know, like Vince going to Jimmy

1068
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:06.560
Weston or whatever it was. Yeah, I mean it's tremendous. You know,

1069
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:14.720
Kevin Nash going to Peter Luger's first
go up to sushi and like you

1070
01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:18.159
know, Shinjuku, Oh fucking went
to Peter Lugers. You know, on

1071
01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:25.399
sat down you got a fucking h
New York strip. Yeah, I'll figure

1072
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:30.199
one in Rome. You know,
I'm digging into this. One of the

1073
01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:33.039
best stakes I've ever had. I
look up and what's right there picture James

1074
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:40.840
Kahn. Yeah, like this is
life, you know, that's what it

1075
01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:45.439
is. The crowds with it.
As the war dance kicks off, boots

1076
01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:50.600
caught kick lift by Chief Day,
strong Bow drops the mask, Superstar Strongbo

1077
01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:55.520
goes for the mask again. Uh
as Superstar elbows the ribs to get out

1078
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:59.600
of that predicament. And now he's
slugging away at Strongbow and Strongbow doing the

1079
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:02.359
Warriors. He's doing that Indian blood
getting the hot. They say on commentary,

1080
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:06.319
it's basically you know the original hulking
up here. Yeah, from Chief

1081
01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:10.279
j chops a knee, a whip, and a sleeper is applied to a

1082
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:13.439
big pop by Strongbow. At this
point, mass Superstar drops to his knees,

1083
01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:17.239
push off Larryet and Strongbow being pro
he is in stet of flat backing.

1084
01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:20.000
He just turns around like you would
wrestling your brother in the living room

1085
01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:25.840
and falls down him on the mat. Right, So, yeah, works,

1086
01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:28.680
what a clothes line. He caught
him with cover one, two three,

1087
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:31.079
and it's over. Just like that
he hit him in the esophagus area.

1088
01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:38.000
We're told Mass Superstar pins the other
tribal chief. I'll tell you for

1089
01:20:38.039 --> 01:20:41.600
someone in consideration to be the transitional
WWF World Champion, he certainly got his

1090
01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:45.199
ass beat until he hit one move
in this one seven to twenty six,

1091
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:48.119
Mass Superstar defeats Chief Cha Strongbow,
and Strongbow's out of the ring, headed

1092
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:50.720
in the wrong direction, doesn't know
where he is, they say. And

1093
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:56.800
I personally want to identify every single
person at ringside, of course, who

1094
01:20:56.880 --> 01:20:59.479
they know, are, when they
how often they came, what their story

1095
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:01.880
is, to know all the details
and need to know again, I want

1096
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:05.119
to know what they would usually eat
when they came home from from the well,

1097
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:08.920
they're probably the side, but they
might have. They might have,

1098
01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:11.520
but you know, you never know. Maybe they went home and they had

1099
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:15.039
like uh, you know, they
maybe maybe every Sunday they make like uh,

1100
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:18.239
I don't know, fried chicken or
something, and that's there. That's

1101
01:21:18.279 --> 01:21:21.439
there, you know, late night
Monday snack when they come home from the

1102
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:27.600
matches, take a break, we
come back. There's a free s frame

1103
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:31.079
of Thank God a Crossbody by Josey
Luis Rivera, and that says wrestling.

1104
01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:34.600
Yeah, you're ready. Do you
want to learn more about wrestling? I

1105
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:42.399
wanted information or wanting something from the
World Wrestling Federation right there, wrestling wanting

1106
01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:48.760
something from the World Wrestling Entertainment.
Okay, I would like a double cheeseburger

1107
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:59.840
po box one five three eight,
hit oh six eight free six. So

1108
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:06.239
weird want something? Uh uh?
I'm like, I like, uh,

1109
01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:14.079
can you guys send me a like
a thing of ziploc bags? Please?

1110
01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:18.039
Could you send me a dildo?
Sure, I've got those, I've got

1111
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:20.800
plenty of those. But you know, in terms of why they would do

1112
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:25.079
this, I'm almost positive it was
to build up mailing lists for the magazine

1113
01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:28.800
in the merchandise catalog. Sure that
makes sense. Uh so, pop Robin

1114
01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:30.680
Putsky is he's next on our television
screens. We cut to the back and

1115
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:35.279
there is still he old sergeant Slaughter, yes, but looking like he's looking

1116
01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:39.079
like his g I Joe figure more
than he ever has. Oh yeah,

1117
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:43.399
yeah, he's a drill sergeant man
he he uh. You know the other

1118
01:22:43.479 --> 01:22:45.520
matches that I've seen from this era
usually is wearing that fucking white T shirt

1119
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:49.319
looking like a fucking idiot, right, But here he actually looks like and

1120
01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:55.800
he's and he's he's not as fat
as he would be by the end of

1121
01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:59.760
the decade, So he looks really
much a lot like his his g I

1122
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:01.840
Joe figure. Yeah, you can
see where they drew the inspiration from.

1123
01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:05.159
He comes after the Marine Corps him
even though he was still a heel and

1124
01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:13.279
man those blue brick walls backstage that
you'd kept at MSG, I wish where

1125
01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:15.800
those were. I mean, I
guess I know where they were, but

1126
01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:21.439
like to know the exact spot where
those right where those were gidden blesses himself

1127
01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:27.119
before getting slapped back by Vince Senior, like, I don't know where I

1128
01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:30.640
don't know where that entrance was.
Yeah, you know, I loved one

1129
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:36.800
of my favorite things was because you
know, those back hallways were were things

1130
01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:41.359
that they didn't renovate when they did
all that big stuff, you know,

1131
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:45.960
whenever, like a decade ago,
and so a lot of those those wings

1132
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:51.319
that aren't open to the public are
all just still older, and they had

1133
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:56.119
like older posters and stuff like that
on the walls. Amazing. So we

1134
01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:58.840
get a low angle shot looking up
at Slaughter making his way to the ring

1135
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:01.479
of produced entrance. Here for for
the sergeant whistle hanging out of his mouth,

1136
01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:04.159
tough ombre, we're told from the
US Marine Corps. You know,

1137
01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:09.359
he's the drill sergeant from Full Metal
Jacket. So he right, he's well

1138
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:15.960
full Miller Jacket hadn't come out yet, what oh eighty seven. Where did

1139
01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.359
they get this character from, Oh, Gomer Pyle. Yeah, maybe it

1140
01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:21.560
was Gomer Pile. Maybe that's the
big insult. No. I was thought,

1141
01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:25.600
okay, that really fucks in my
mind then, because I always wondered

1142
01:24:25.640 --> 01:24:29.239
why they would make a US Marine
Corps drill sergeant a heel, Like,

1143
01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:32.239
to me, that's like a babyface. Yeah. Yeah, he's a hard

1144
01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:34.640
ass, But I don't understand why
he'd be a heel out of the gate.

1145
01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:40.319
I mean, I guess Slaughter indicates
he's kind of a abuse of power

1146
01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:43.079
kind of commandant. But yeah,
I don't know. I wonder how that

1147
01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:47.199
all came about. That's a very
interesting point. Yeah, so Monsoon says

1148
01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:49.720
that they have some signs or putski
some for Gomer Pile. That was the

1149
01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:54.520
big taunting chant to Slaughter at the
time. Of course, Ruffy Jack Lutz

1150
01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:58.600
presiding twenty minute time limit two hundred
and ninety six pounds from South Carolina,

1151
01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:02.159
Sergeant sla Her and he's got the
brown stash with the brown hat. M.

1152
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:10.520
They comment on the protruding chin,
hilarious shot of the ref on laughter

1153
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:15.399
glasses, Oh his reflection, like
he reflects off his glasses like it's actually

1154
01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:18.359
cool shot. And yeah, just
said laughters, I forgot the S.

1155
01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:24.359
So there we go water slought.
Oh my god, oh my god,

1156
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:27.359
it is slot, like, well
take the S out of slots. And

1157
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:30.640
yeah, once we found out how
long he actually served in the military,

1158
01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:39.520
yeah, exactly laughter, he is
sergeant laughter here. But they do you

1159
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:42.600
know, I noticed from the beginning
of the match, like when Putsky comes

1160
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:45.000
in, like he's just so fucking
small. Now yeah, then when he

1161
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:47.640
was in like in like the set, I remember, like the the Bruno

1162
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:51.840
shows that watch, and how fucking
massive he is. Because I think of

1163
01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:58.000
this, and even later I think
of even like the like eighty six uh

1164
01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:03.319
Putsky, who was just like almost
tiny, you know, with bit muscular

1165
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:08.560
but tiny. But it's just like
he's just so fucking small. And they

1166
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:11.640
even bring up that, you know
he was he was a fatty and he

1167
01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:15.560
lost weight. I guess here they
are. I haven't Putsky certainly looks it

1168
01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:24.359
trim shape and ready for this batchup. Can you remember back pat five or

1169
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:28.439
six years ago when I haven't Putsky
first came to the World Wrestling Federation to

1170
01:26:28.720 --> 01:26:31.840
weighed some three hundred pounds. Oh, he was huge. Look at the

1171
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:39.119
reflection, beautiful camera work there in
the glasses of sergeants water. Yeah.

1172
01:26:39.319 --> 01:26:44.479
At one time Putsky weighed over three
pounds. And for him to lose that

1173
01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:47.319
much weight and you look that great, that's a lot of work, a

1174
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:53.760
lot of determination, a lot of
determination. They love, they love commenting

1175
01:26:53.800 --> 01:26:57.279
on loss of size is like a
totally cool thing, and it probably was

1176
01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:00.199
for him. I mean, it
probably did start to make sense to him

1177
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:01.560
down a little bit. That's a
lot of bulk to carry around. It's

1178
01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:05.840
gonna kill you, man. But
he was a powerlifter though. It wasn't

1179
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:10.960
like he was like fat, clearly
he was yeah, yeah, right.

1180
01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:14.520
I think he's probably one of the
first guys to go whole hog on the

1181
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:16.640
juice in New York. I look
at him, and look at fucking j

1182
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:19.600
Strongbow, you know, I know, I know, take your pick,

1183
01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:23.920
Well, what what career path do
you want to travel? You know,

1184
01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:26.880
and and and he's also so you
know, I was looking at him like

1185
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.399
he's so fucking short. He looks
like, but he's actually my height Putsky

1186
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:35.760
height. But it was I guess
I never realized how fucking huge Slaughter is,

1187
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:40.760
big big man, so tall.
Yeah he was. He was tantamountam

1188
01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:44.079
Hogan is ridiculously tall, and they
were pretty much eye to eye. Yeah

1189
01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:46.960
true. I never really you know, I never really put that together.

1190
01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:50.520
So the bell sounds and Putsky's going
totally nuts, like he's swatting flies with

1191
01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:55.079
his punches and slots, pokes him
in the eye and retreats to the apron,

1192
01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:59.880
and you have Ivan Putsky fighting like
there's something wrong with him. Slaughter

1193
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:03.439
stops and flexes and his arm and
sells that his arm hurts to even flex

1194
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:10.720
because of all the damage h Putski
with his sinewy flex job that he does.

1195
01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:15.119
Monsion says, you don't get that
way waiting for the bus, And

1196
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:19.880
I said, what what? Yeah, no, I mean he makes a

1197
01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:23.239
very good point. I'm surprised you're
waiting for the bus to get to the

1198
01:28:23.279 --> 01:28:27.600
gym. Well maybe, but you
can still don't get that way by waiting.

1199
01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:32.119
Proper diet is so important to look
like that. And Patterson's got the

1200
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:38.760
recipe, doesn't he? Oh oh
my god, if you wanted to know

1201
01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:41.920
that it was all about food,
here, listen to this Buttski. At

1202
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:46.520
one time we'll sit there and he'll
eat a dozen raw eggs, raw onions,

1203
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:54.960
raw onion. Why this is Monday
night, raw onion. One thing

1204
01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:59.239
he likes to eat is rock garlic. Oh unfortunately, I could attest to

1205
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:02.600
that. Oh yeah, a lot
of time, you could be a model.

1206
01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:05.840
Way you smell garlic is the outputsk
must be here on the corner somewhere

1207
01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:16.479
interesting. So raw eggs, I'm
with him. I'm with him on that.

1208
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:19.600
I get it, you know,
I know that straight protein, you

1209
01:29:19.680 --> 01:29:25.920
know, but raw onion, like
what are you eating like an apple?

1210
01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:29.680
Like just sucking chomping it? Like
what cook it? Like it? Like

1211
01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:31.720
it did not make you ripped to
cook it? Could you put in a

1212
01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:38.079
salad? Like? What are you
get a raw onion for? You know?

1213
01:29:38.479 --> 01:29:40.960
And what are you eating raw garlic? I mean, I know garlic's

1214
01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:43.359
supposed to be good for you and
stuff, and it is, but like

1215
01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:49.600
what the fuck? Like? Oh
so gross? And there's when they're busting

1216
01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:54.520
your balls and WWF and the Sarah
on commentaries, because you're like a constant,

1217
01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:57.479
you know, You're like a guy
they see every time, and he's

1218
01:29:57.560 --> 01:30:00.840
always right, and he's fucking he
always got comes to the locker room.

1219
01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:05.079
He's got a carton of eggs,
he's got you know, a beige uh

1220
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:13.560
grocery store bag of of fucking onions. And then and then like a you

1221
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:16.520
know, a bulb of garlic as
well. He fucking walks into the into

1222
01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:23.479
the locker room with his ship.
They didn't mention Colbasa, which is suspect

1223
01:30:23.560 --> 01:30:28.600
to say the least. So Patterson
says, Ivan, what about the pigs

1224
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:34.119
and the you know and guonkies?
Yeah? Yeah, come on, man,

1225
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:42.479
where's all the good stuff with Hordish? Patterson says, Ivan Putsky really

1226
01:30:42.520 --> 01:30:47.520
explodes when he gets hot. He
said it, he said it a couple

1227
01:30:47.680 --> 01:31:00.439
uh, Larry, Oh my god, he explodes. To be clear,

1228
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:06.359
Time Life, Time, Live,
Hed Time. Last Fan presents a compilation

1229
01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:15.960
for the Ages wrestlers coming Ivan Putski
exactly. That would be my first guess.

1230
01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:21.920
It sounds exactly like him. How
do you come in a Polish accent?

1231
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:29.279
I guess that's the question, isn't
it. I'm trying to think of

1232
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:33.960
any fucking polish words. I'm just
kidding, he says, barogi. Okay,

1233
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:40.600
all right, does the Mexican say
taco? What the fuck does a

1234
01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:45.239
does? Gender? Mahaal scream tiki
massala as he empties out his fucking tear.

1235
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:55.520
Fucking think a fucking hose gender Mahal
fucking I was gonna sathing bad but

1236
01:31:55.560 --> 01:32:02.560
anyway, okay, lock ups and
breaks between Putskin slaughter lock up. Putsky

1237
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:04.880
shoves him out of the corner and
catches him charging up with a big slam.

1238
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:13.640
Putsky grabs his side lock and cranks
the I'll give him me the scoop

1239
01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:15.439
slam. That was a good slam
by by Oh yeah, good power moves

1240
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:20.520
on display Ski. They called him
perk Ski almost did Patterson. That would

1241
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:29.239
be Scott Putsky. H Putsky grabs
a side headlock and cranks. Gives him

1242
01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:30.960
a chance to flex the chest or
he smart hold for him to incorporate.

1243
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:38.000
Indeed. Putsky then screams polish power
out to the people. M We mentioned

1244
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:49.920
the keel before, didn't we?
Putsky did several main events of the Kill

1245
01:32:49.960 --> 01:33:03.399
bossa auditorium so much uh sour crowd, Oh yes, yes, just tons

1246
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:12.039
of you know, and smoked meats, all right, very very very smoke

1247
01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:15.680
ship all right. So Patterson says, Putsky has a beer every now and

1248
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:20.479
then. It loves to sing.
Let's go to use lifestyle profile here living

1249
01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:30.800
Putsky seriously. One of his favorite
hobbies is to row down the river sick.

1250
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:39.760
Did you know? Gola? One
of his favorite hobby rowing. He

1251
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:45.359
loves the rowing, loves the row. Which row? Which row is that?

1252
01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:46.840
Bear? Patterson? Which row is
it? Fifth row? Sixth row?

1253
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:51.520
What is it? Sold to the
rafters? What is it? And

1254
01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:55.880
he says he loves to sing as
well. Yeah, so uh push off

1255
01:33:55.920 --> 01:33:59.920
over the top and they collide and
Slaughter with a tremendous head over heels pump.

1256
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:01.319
He hits the canvas, back flips
and ends up through the ropes on

1257
01:34:01.359 --> 01:34:03.880
the floor. I tell you,
can I tell you something that I realized

1258
01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:13.119
watching this bumps we I don't think
Sergeant Slaughter got nearly enough credit for for

1259
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:17.119
his bumps. He absolutely interested on
spectacular bumps. He like, he does

1260
01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:23.880
so many of his trademark bumps in
this match, and he's just he's spectacular,

1261
01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:29.439
that's correct. Like this is a
big guy who who who who does

1262
01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:38.279
very very agile maneuvers, like selling
moves. It's really incredible, and I

1263
01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:42.600
don't think he got nearly enough credit
for that. He used to like land

1264
01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:45.800
them his back, do a backflip
and have his feet go through the bottom

1265
01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:49.319
and middle rope right and he on
the floor on his feet right and like

1266
01:34:49.520 --> 01:34:51.920
and this he does the two things, the two bumps that I love when

1267
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:55.880
he goes into the corner and he
bounces back. And there's the other one

1268
01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:59.159
at the end of the match where
he fucking does the same thing, runs

1269
01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:02.319
you know, body first into the
buckles and he he goes out of the

1270
01:35:02.439 --> 01:35:10.159
ring slaughter, seriously wonderful. Cut
to a guy with the old man hat

1271
01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:14.239
and the crowd just watching the jacks. That's a newsboy from the nineteen twenties

1272
01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:18.640
and never got outed. So the
fuck this boy fucking he's ready to as

1273
01:35:18.680 --> 01:35:21.199
soon as as soon as the matches
of the rover, he's got to go

1274
01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:27.000
on shift. Talking about the twenty
two twenty three inch biceps of Ivan Putsky

1275
01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:30.279
can't be twenty four now that HULLL. Cogan's in the territory. Yeah,

1276
01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:31.840
I respect you, mister Putsky,
but when you say your brother, I'm

1277
01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:34.720
the only one who got twenty four
inch pythons? Dude? What's up of

1278
01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:40.079
the circum versions? Dude? You
know what? What's up with a sir

1279
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:42.880
kizzle? Dude? Right? All
right? I think we've got to talk

1280
01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:45.920
about the idea of the k fabe
language, Terry, is that we can

1281
01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:47.880
understand what you're saying. You just
add is to it. You can't just

1282
01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:53.079
say circumference is, sir kizzle.
That doesn't get me there? Well,

1283
01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:55.319
brother, I mean, if you
can't, But I guess here's the thing,

1284
01:35:55.439 --> 01:35:59.079
dude, If you can't get there, maybe it's your fault. Right,

1285
01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:01.800
Maybe she just wasn't meant bey.
Maybe this place isn't big enough for

1286
01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:09.960
the both of us. Maybe maybe
Brother, that that hulk Hogan is is

1287
01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:23.319
the champ. Is the chisel?
Is the chisel? I'm the ww chisel

1288
01:36:23.359 --> 01:36:27.800
brother, all right? And I
just think that the O I think I

1289
01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:30.800
think, you know, honestly,
the best thing you can do, I

1290
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:34.640
think for your career and for my
career is if you kept losing weight,

1291
01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:45.319
thing smaller. Maybe you have twelve
inch pizzles. Brother Monson says that he

1292
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:49.199
has supple ears, so he's never
got he's saying he does. So we

1293
01:36:49.279 --> 01:36:53.399
never got that califlower. I'm saying, yeah, God, yeah, you

1294
01:36:53.479 --> 01:36:57.279
never got an ear of cauliflower in
your life. It's gonna say he never.

1295
01:36:57.439 --> 01:37:00.680
He stays far away from cauliflower.
The last thing he wants to have

1296
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:05.720
it on this person. There's a
quote for the ages he stays fought,

1297
01:37:06.159 --> 01:37:11.600
all right, labsman trivia, who
is JP talking about when he said this?

1298
01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:15.800
He stays far away from cauliflower and
the last thing he wants is to

1299
01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:19.600
have it on his person. That's
what's called money. That's what's called money,

1300
01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:24.800
ladies and gentlemen. That's what's called
what you think is stupid about the

1301
01:37:24.840 --> 01:37:27.760
podcast, but explains why we're going
on ten years and no one in a

1302
01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:30.520
few others are. That's right.
So a slaughter lifts and hits an atomic

1303
01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:33.880
drop, and grill monsoon calls out
the Seattica nerve as being impacted there,

1304
01:37:38.279 --> 01:37:42.119
of course, I mean what else
would be well, I have in Putsky's

1305
01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:45.439
initials were IP. No one ever
confused him with intellectual property. We can

1306
01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:49.640
say that for sure. It looks
he's missing a tooth too. It one

1307
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:57.119
cutaway. There is somebody I'll tell
you I can every time and not that

1308
01:37:57.199 --> 01:38:00.720
we've seen it often, but every
time we've seen Putsky in this era,

1309
01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:05.000
there is somebody he reminds me of
and I cannot place it. I cannot

1310
01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:11.720
place it because like with the with
the very tight curly hair and like his

1311
01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:16.079
face, like there's somebody who reminds
me of and I I really cannot place

1312
01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:21.479
it. Yeah, Oh my god, I think I know who you're talking

1313
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:25.119
about. I think of, like
I'm trying to think of like all the

1314
01:38:25.199 --> 01:38:27.760
people from this kind of era who
have that tight curly hair, and I

1315
01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:30.880
can't. It's like I don't,
I don't and who It's so crazy.

1316
01:38:31.840 --> 01:38:36.479
I see his face and that it
goes away right exactly that guy and that

1317
01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:42.800
now I'm seeing Jim Belushi, like
no, or Joe Piscopo or someone right,

1318
01:38:43.560 --> 01:38:49.119
I don't know, round that round
like like he's got a fucking like

1319
01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:51.119
a helmet. You know, he's
got a helmet of hair, is what

1320
01:38:51.199 --> 01:38:54.439
He's got got to know. Solar
System's got to know who we're talking about.

1321
01:38:54.479 --> 01:38:59.800
Somebody. There's gonna be somebody like
I don't know if they're necessarily muscular,

1322
01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:02.880
but like there's somebody he honestly,
like I had Paul Servino in my

1323
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:05.279
mind for like a split second,
like, no, it's not Paul Sorvino.

1324
01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:10.279
Maybe it's the guy with no chin
from ninety Day Fiance maybe. So

1325
01:39:10.520 --> 01:39:13.239
uh. Slaughter does a front backbreaker, gets a one, and then he

1326
01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:17.800
goes soaring as Ivan Putsky bench pressed
him on the kickout. So you know,

1327
01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:24.880
Slaughter goes like a cruiserweight getting kicked
out from seriously seriously, and then

1328
01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:28.159
Slaughter lifts Putsky and rams him into
the corner and then hits another backbreaker for

1329
01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:30.520
two. Putsky blocks an attempt to
send him into the corner and send Slaughter

1330
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:34.840
in instead. Slaughter, Yep,
he came to He came to New York

1331
01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:38.520
to do a couple of things,
all right. Yeah, he came to

1332
01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:43.359
what you mentioned, the aforementioned spectacular
bumps flying all over the garden. He

1333
01:39:43.479 --> 01:39:47.159
came to protrude his chin and bring
some some Marine Corps drill sergeant Ethic to

1334
01:39:47.239 --> 01:39:51.800
the table. He came to get
a victory. But most importantly, yes,

1335
01:39:53.279 --> 01:39:56.479
he came bearing the tip end of
a razor blade, did he not?

1336
01:39:56.800 --> 01:40:02.079
Right? That's right? He he
he likes his forehead because the fans

1337
01:40:02.159 --> 01:40:08.279
demanded it, right, Okay,
he couldn't look at himself in the mirror.

1338
01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:12.479
If he wasn't seeing a Crimson mask. He cut himself. He cut

1339
01:40:12.600 --> 01:40:19.880
himself open, because that's how you
get that one extra fan to walk through

1340
01:40:20.439 --> 01:40:26.680
the turnstile. So he pours hot
and squinting as hard as he can to

1341
01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:30.880
get that blood floor. I mean, it looks like he's pouring hot tomato

1342
01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:33.680
soup. Actually the fucking color,
it's so weird. Now you have Gorilla's

1343
01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:39.960
attention. Uh, months, does
Gorilla Monsoon belong in like a Campbell's commercial?

1344
01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:45.920
You know, you know, you
know, so you know he would

1345
01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:47.800
cook in the kitchen, right,
he's cooking in the kitchen, and and

1346
01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:51.359
he's making for a bit. But
every time he hears a fucking Campbell's commercial,

1347
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:55.560
he like runs in. It's my
favorite, my favorite. I wants

1348
01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:59.399
to watch the fucking Campbell's commercials.
Yeah, but since his Putsky is still

1349
01:40:59.399 --> 01:41:02.159
in the corner, so I thought
it's funny for some reason. Uh.

1350
01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:06.399
And then Putsky lets a big punt
go and Slaughter leaps and hammocks on that

1351
01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:11.399
top rope like we wanted to.
Yes, he does with the right whip.

1352
01:41:11.479 --> 01:41:15.479
Sergeant Slaughter takes it headfirst, bounces
backwards and lands flat in his face

1353
01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:18.760
on the canvas. You know,
the bump I do slaughters up crowds up

1354
01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:25.319
simple the whip is reversed to the
corner and Slaughter nails nails up Putsky with

1355
01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:27.479
a with a falling lariat. What
war are you gonna say? There?

1356
01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:38.640
It's just it's a he's I I
really, I just never realized how how

1357
01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:43.640
spectacular Slaughter was. I don't know
why this match made me really, I

1358
01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:45.760
think a boot can't match for the
Patterson tribute. Yeah fucking kidding me.

1359
01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:48.720
He's doing the same thing. Hell
on wheels, like yeah, like he

1360
01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:56.720
just he's he's crazy. It's he's
crazy quick and again he just his his

1361
01:41:56.920 --> 01:42:00.279
bumps are just spectator selling makes you
feel like it's really going down, you

1362
01:42:00.359 --> 01:42:03.079
know, right, a higher level
of intensity. And it's funny because it's

1363
01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:08.520
because what Wo adds to that.
I would think that a guy of his

1364
01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:14.000
size selling like that would would come
across as goofy. But what works for

1365
01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:21.079
him is that you know it it
it. It makes it more real,

1366
01:42:21.199 --> 01:42:25.920
It makes it feel more intense.
It doesn't come across as goofy, doesn't

1367
01:42:25.960 --> 01:42:28.560
make it doesn't make him in the
match like Goofy. It makes his opponent

1368
01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:32.920
look like a fucking super right exactly, it's exactly fine. Balance, you

1369
01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:38.880
get a strike and he did it. Then there's a let's see, Slaughter

1370
01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:42.399
lifts uh A Putsky, but he
lands on him with a cross body and

1371
01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:46.000
that gets two for Ivan Putsky Irish
whip. Putsky ducks and nails the Polish

1372
01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:48.359
hammer, that big finisher of his
that he hits the ropes and does a

1373
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:53.159
shoulder block, and it's at this
point Slaughter leaps over the fucking crowd goes

1374
01:42:53.359 --> 01:42:57.920
bonkers hammer. Well, not on
the sledgehammer. Slaughter leaps over the ropes

1375
01:42:57.960 --> 01:43:00.640
and on the way down. This
is so fucking brilliant. You know in

1376
01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:04.960
ninety nine, was it ninety nine
when Vince got thrown out of the ring

1377
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:09.399
by China and Ron snapped his neck
under the bottom rope. Yeah, yeah,

1378
01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:12.119
it's like a horrendous thing. You
always are taught in wrestling school to

1379
01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:15.600
make sure that when you go over
the top rope that your your head isn't

1380
01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:17.399
underneath the bottom rope, because if
it is, when the rest of your

1381
01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:19.920
body comes down to the floor,
your neck's gonna snap under that rope.

1382
01:43:20.760 --> 01:43:25.319
And Slaughter does Big Bossman does that
in ninety two. Yes he does,

1383
01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:30.119
that's right, and Slaughter didn't get
the memo. No, because he finds

1384
01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:34.560
a way to fall in such a
controlled way that when he lands his chin,

1385
01:43:34.960 --> 01:43:39.159
his massive chin, right, the
protruding chin that they always talked about,

1386
01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:44.680
is trapped under the bottom rope as
he lands. I mean, this

1387
01:43:44.760 --> 01:43:47.239
guy's this guy's operating on a different
level. He really is. These little

1388
01:43:47.319 --> 01:43:53.399
small touches, these little details,
you know, there's there's something to be

1389
01:43:53.520 --> 01:43:57.439
sent for sergeants. Slaughter. Oh
absolutely, I've I've really struggled over the

1390
01:43:57.560 --> 01:44:00.760
years as to whether he's he's a
Hall of Famer or not. And it's

1391
01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:03.399
this stuff. You know, it's
actually watching him in action that as opposed

1392
01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:08.680
to looking at his his accomplishments on
paper, that that puts you across the

1393
01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:13.079
finish line his matches are, you
know, because you can appreciate just the

1394
01:44:13.399 --> 01:44:17.079
that he he really is working at
a different level in terms of things,

1395
01:44:17.079 --> 01:44:21.079
because like you know, heels of
his size weren't selling like this. It's

1396
01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:25.279
really it makes him stand out in
a lot of ways, and you can

1397
01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:29.479
see why he would be on the
short list when Vince needed somebody to you

1398
01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:31.960
know, get wrestling seven on the
rails in a way that make Hogan look

1399
01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:35.239
good. Yeah, and he's he's
not on the Hall of Fame, is

1400
01:44:35.279 --> 01:44:40.680
he. Yeah? I don't know. I was thinking of the Observer Hall

1401
01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:43.800
of Fame, but I don't know. I don't think he is. I

1402
01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:45.359
don't think he is. EI there, they're always in, they're always fighting,

1403
01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:50.560
you know, because he's he's he's
so transactional around. Oh yeah,

1404
01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:55.880
yeah, I can't picture him on
the modern Hall of Fame stage, like

1405
01:44:55.960 --> 01:44:59.479
in an arena. That's right,
that's right. It was. It was

1406
01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:03.039
a wrestling in twenty all right,
So gets his chin caught in the bottom

1407
01:45:03.119 --> 01:45:08.119
rope and stands there like he's hanging
by his own chin. And then in

1408
01:45:08.239 --> 01:45:10.960
the Observer Hall of Fame he did
make it. It was a question for

1409
01:45:11.119 --> 01:45:14.279
years, what year did he go
in? Twenty twenty three? Last year?

1410
01:45:14.359 --> 01:45:15.800
Oh, it was just last year. I forgot about that. Yep.

1411
01:45:16.359 --> 01:45:21.600
I remember considering him before he was
in to the apron both go Slaughterstorn

1412
01:45:21.640 --> 01:45:26.439
refs the thrown hands, the referees
counting as they're punching and they're exchanging and

1413
01:45:26.479 --> 01:45:29.359
there's a chop in. Sergeant Slaughter
spills back into the ring, but the

1414
01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:31.439
referee waves the match off and the
bell sounds. I'm not sure what that's

1415
01:45:31.439 --> 01:45:35.199
about. I don't understand how this
worked, but anyway, they don't really

1416
01:45:35.239 --> 01:45:40.000
give you any explanation either. They
continue slugging it out as the bell rings

1417
01:45:40.039 --> 01:45:43.319
and there's an Irish whip and Slaughter
takes the huge front sternham bump over the

1418
01:45:43.319 --> 01:45:46.279
top rope to the floor that you
mentioned, yep, and then he climbs

1419
01:45:46.359 --> 01:45:49.520
back in. He's trying to kill
Putsky and starts hauling off, and Putsky's

1420
01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:53.720
throwing back, and the bell is
still sounding, so it's like a big

1421
01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:57.319
peer or six brawl between these two. Referee Dick Lutz is sort of ice

1422
01:45:57.359 --> 01:45:59.880
skating and they're trying to break these
two up as Putsky shoves them off and

1423
01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:01.720
tie up in the corner, and
Let's gets between them and admonishes Potski,

1424
01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:04.760
and I think it's the ring.
The bell is still ting ting tinging at

1425
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:08.760
eleven twenty nine, the result of
a count out the winner Sergeant Slaughter,

1426
01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:12.800
So I guess the raft was counting
both out on the apron and because Slaughter

1427
01:46:13.279 --> 01:46:15.319
fell into the ring before the count
of Tanny wins, I don't understand how

1428
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:18.640
who counts out on the apron.
That's not a count out. That's what

1429
01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:25.159
throws you off the most. Absolutely
yeah, right, so very bizarre.

1430
01:46:25.319 --> 01:46:30.800
And then they had a break to
come back monsoon, says Junior. Oklinda

1431
01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:33.920
is going to be interviewing Paul or
Endorff, and here we go. Do

1432
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:39.920
you have anything before I play it? Because this is fucking mondy It hilarious.

1433
01:46:40.399 --> 01:46:43.880
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we
had Super Sunday yesterday in Tampa,

1434
01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:46.800
Florida, the home town of it. Wasn't Super Sunday a year before in

1435
01:46:46.880 --> 01:46:51.960
Awa Minneapolis. Wow. Anyway,
young man, mister wonderful Paul Orndorf,

1436
01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:57.399
just moments from now Salvatory Balomo,
the great one from Italy, one on

1437
01:46:57.560 --> 01:47:00.359
one for you, mister Wonderbulnt right. Let me tell you right now,

1438
01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:01.840
Bolomo. I hope everybody's out there. I hope all you are. Tell

1439
01:47:01.840 --> 01:47:05.039
your friends are out there. I
hope everybody's a New York out there listening

1440
01:47:05.079 --> 01:47:08.960
to what I'm getting ready to tell
you. You know more than that spaghetti

1441
01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:11.760
either to me, as far as
I'm concerned, I'm gonna show you what

1442
01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:14.600
mister wonderful can do. I'm gonna
promise you people out there. You know,

1443
01:47:14.680 --> 01:47:16.720
once I say that I'm gonna do
something, and damn well gets done.

1444
01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:19.520
And when I get in that ring
tonight belowmo, you will feel what

1445
01:47:19.640 --> 01:47:24.039
the pile driver does to you.
Everybody around here, you just wait a

1446
01:47:24.119 --> 01:47:27.920
minute. Everybody around here that I
FACETI a lady have all bit the dust.

1447
01:47:28.199 --> 01:47:30.399
When are they gonna give me some
competention around here? Huh? It's

1448
01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:33.000
coming. And all dude, you
know something. You don't like me,

1449
01:47:33.079 --> 01:47:35.520
and I don't like you, and
we know that that's what's good about it,

1450
01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:40.520
right or wrong. You just like
everybody else because I'm better than everybody

1451
01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:44.119
else. I'm better than all those
eight to fivers out there that make fives

1452
01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:46.479
six hundred dollars a week. They
almost work for the garbage department. That's

1453
01:47:46.520 --> 01:47:49.119
not bad, bunny, and all
due research it is to me. I'll

1454
01:47:49.159 --> 01:47:53.960
make that in two minutes. Out
there playing around with the soul called BelOMO,

1455
01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:57.399
we w see, we are gonna
see where I pressed for time.

1456
01:47:57.479 --> 01:48:00.159
I am sorry, mister wonderful Paul. You will take the pile driver.

1457
01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:03.520
You can bank all it. Matter
of fact, bet all your Italian friends

1458
01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:06.560
out there on it. I thank
you very much. He is mister waterful.

1459
01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:11.039
Paul Arndar two hundred and sixty some
odd pounds out of Tampa, Florida

1460
01:48:11.399 --> 01:48:15.199
moments from now, Salvatory Blomo.
You won't want them, said now to

1461
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:20.640
guerrilla Monson for the action. Wow. I first all, we're looking at

1462
01:48:20.720 --> 01:48:28.000
Gene Okerland's first garden show as well. Ah, Paulowdorf hilarious, okay,

1463
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:36.720
absolute hilarious. And uh I also
Paulowendorff, he always nothing always happened.

1464
01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:40.399
I mean, I'm used to it
by now, but earlier on, when

1465
01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:44.479
I was a kid, his voice
was so much deeper than I thought it

1466
01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:47.640
would be based on how he looked. He said, such a deep voice,

1467
01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:53.960
and I just was always motherfucker man, real deal. Yeah, theater

1468
01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:56.720
in the locker room, because you
could beat that ass yep. Just ask

1469
01:48:56.840 --> 01:49:01.119
Vader brother what a golden too.
When you see Gene full Talk's earpiece,

1470
01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:05.439
yellow WWF logo and the mic flag, Yeah, gray steel mash on,

1471
01:49:05.479 --> 01:49:10.880
that little mic piece bobbing above the
flag, locker room, yellow walls behind

1472
01:49:10.960 --> 01:49:14.640
him. Take me there, let
me look around. Let me that's the

1473
01:49:14.680 --> 01:49:18.279
fucking money right there. I'm into
a sleeping bag. It's unbelievable. So

1474
01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:23.479
we cut two of all people,
Rowdy Roddy Piper leading Paula Orndorf through the

1475
01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:26.079
curtain. Yes, when Piper first
came into the WWF, he was a

1476
01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:30.640
manager, love it, not exclusively, but he managed him and David Chultz

1477
01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:33.279
and two guys who didn't need anyone
to talk for them. I know,

1478
01:49:33.520 --> 01:49:38.479
that's funny. Piper with a kilt
and that silver plate thing hanging over it

1479
01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:40.880
leads or Dwarf to the ring.
BelOMO in the ring, of course.

1480
01:49:40.880 --> 01:49:43.880
Blomo a mainstay in the territory forever
and ever. And he had some other

1481
01:49:44.079 --> 01:49:48.079
like office roll too, I think, with his white ring jacket and there's

1482
01:49:48.119 --> 01:49:51.800
sort of a frilly center to Roddy
Piper's shirt. He's in a he's in

1483
01:49:51.880 --> 01:49:56.920
regalia here to say the least.
Yes, Indeed, Howard Finker introduces the

1484
01:49:56.960 --> 01:49:59.720
manager outside the ring to a chorus
of booze. Piper looks around. I'll

1485
01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:03.840
call he's not that wild eyed Piper
quite yet. He's very methodical. I

1486
01:50:03.920 --> 01:50:09.840
mean, he's he definitely has his
moments in this in this uh this match.

1487
01:50:09.920 --> 01:50:13.840
But yeah, one to fallow twenty
minute time limit from Italy two hundred

1488
01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:16.319
thirty nine pounds. Sal Blomo and
then Paulo and Dorff is still on the

1489
01:50:16.359 --> 01:50:19.800
floor while the introductions is going on, convening with Piper making his MSG debut.

1490
01:50:19.840 --> 01:50:24.239
They renounced from Tampa, Florida.
Paulo en Dworff, I'm reducing business.

1491
01:50:24.720 --> 01:50:29.199
Monsoon notes he surprised Piper didn't bring
bagpipes out. As Paulo d'orf faces

1492
01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.199
the crowd and does the up yours, Piper comes in extendses his hand to

1493
01:50:31.239 --> 01:50:35.239
sal BelOMO. Piper questioning the knee
brace of Blomo, arguing the referee about

1494
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:40.000
the gear on sal Blomo. Yeah, check the leg, he screams to

1495
01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:43.159
the ref. God, I know
he does. He fucking says that tang

1496
01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:48.399
ing ting, check the leg and
the bell must sound thirteen times per match.

1497
01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:54.000
It's like he had no Seriously,
he's got a like this. There's

1498
01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:57.920
something in his knee pad. I
think that that that Piper saw. Yeah,

1499
01:50:58.479 --> 01:51:01.359
it was uh buffalo mozzarella, let's
say, or he's got a meat

1500
01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:05.800
ball in his Uh you called him
a spaghetti eater. I mean, come

1501
01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:09.079
on, now, we all eat
spaghetti. What that's supposed to mean?

1502
01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:13.399
Spaghetti eater? Be weird? If
he wasn't a spaghetti Yeah, it'd be

1503
01:51:13.399 --> 01:51:15.399
weird if he was Italian and was
not a spaghetti e if he was anybody,

1504
01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:20.640
it wasn't right exactly, but fucking
like, that's that's an insulting I'm

1505
01:51:20.720 --> 01:51:23.840
fine with that. Call me a
spaghetti eater, please, I get it,

1506
01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:25.760
Paul. There's a lot of Italians
in the audience, and you're in

1507
01:51:25.800 --> 01:51:28.800
New York. I get it.
So uh ar Dwarf is barking at the

1508
01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:31.319
announcers. Never liked you to screaming
at Patters, and Patterson goes, who

1509
01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:34.800
cares. Patterson's still working, by
the way, we read some of those

1510
01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:36.840
results, you know, when they
go out to California. He's still putting

1511
01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:40.479
the tights on at this point.
Yeah, Patterson says, I'd like to

1512
01:51:40.479 --> 01:51:42.039
be in the ring with him to
see if he likes me or not.

1513
01:51:43.159 --> 01:51:46.880
Pat Yeah, uh Paula and Dwarf
and uh a, Roddy Piper bail like

1514
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:49.520
fuck this. As the booze ranged
down in, the announcer states because of

1515
01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:55.680
the knee bras that they're skipping town
and it's so fucking like the stalling it

1516
01:51:55.920 --> 01:51:59.960
it gets annoying after a while.
It's so long before he gets into the

1517
01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:02.399
fucking ring to fight like a while
man. So they said they should have

1518
01:52:02.399 --> 01:52:04.920
been counted out by now. As
Pollmerwarff barks at the camera, picks him

1519
01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:09.159
up and wants a Salabalomo back in
a neutral corner. And they take forever,

1520
01:52:09.279 --> 01:52:12.359
like you said, even for a
Piper to take on Dwarf's robe of

1521
01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:15.600
man. The days when a guy
who looked like sal Blomo could get regular

1522
01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:18.039
work in the wrestling business, That's
all I'm saying. Pallon Dorf again leaves

1523
01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:23.840
the ring until Bloma gets to a
nutral corner. I heard that Salo had

1524
01:52:23.880 --> 01:52:26.640
like half lasagna waiting for him.
He had, he had, he had

1525
01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:30.399
to leave. He'd get on a
subway so he could fucking and he was

1526
01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:32.600
like, ah, ship, I
gotta finish my lasagna when I get home,

1527
01:52:33.239 --> 01:52:40.640
he says. Ship. He says
a ship about it. So Piper

1528
01:52:40.720 --> 01:52:45.079
peels off the robe of pisign.
He had fucking like he had a whole

1529
01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:47.279
pan, like a full lasagna pan. He was just like eating it with

1530
01:52:47.319 --> 01:52:56.800
a spoon. Okay, sal below
me, piece of shit, cell blowney,

1531
01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:03.520
so below me. So Piper peels
off the robe. On the steps,

1532
01:53:04.119 --> 01:53:10.560
Italy is counting him down. Orf
gets in the ref's face and Belomo's

1533
01:53:10.560 --> 01:53:14.039
distracted by Piper, and it's at
that point that Pollowon Dworff strikes and goes

1534
01:53:14.039 --> 01:53:17.720
off with sledgehammers and another Pearl Harbor
job by Grilla. Monsoon swear to God,

1535
01:53:19.079 --> 01:53:23.479
like three or four Pearl Harbor jobs
every show is, at least this

1536
01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:26.760
time it is in a Japanese heel
doing it. That's what it's right,

1537
01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:30.239
that's what it's bad. So Worndworff
does the leaping pointed elbow and Blomo flopping

1538
01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:34.680
around like a fish taking the abuse. Monsoon says, the long psych job

1539
01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:39.199
paid off here for Paul Orndorf as
he hits a big lift in a slam

1540
01:53:39.279 --> 01:53:42.159
into the matte cover. Monsoon insists
at the show, calling it not the

1541
01:53:42.239 --> 01:53:45.720
Matt Boss but the Matt Cover.
I prefer canvas. But he's not there

1542
01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:49.720
yet. Piper screaming in sal Blomo's
faces He's being tortured. One heck of

1543
01:53:49.800 --> 01:53:56.680
a boy in there the gap ye, Patterson says, one heck of a

1544
01:53:56.760 --> 01:54:00.720
boy in there of Seal Blomo.
Then Orndorf gigs and knee in the face

1545
01:54:00.760 --> 01:54:04.000
of bloom On the ropes and Piper
basically goes nose to nose with him shaking

1546
01:54:04.039 --> 01:54:06.960
his hair like he used to do, you know, shake the hair when

1547
01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:12.439
you talk for the benefit of the
people in the in the nosebleeds Irish whipman,

1548
01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:15.560
Paullen Dwarf. It's a high backdrop. My god, did blow over

1549
01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:18.039
an airtime, Yes he did.
I'm surprised with that much lasagna in him.

1550
01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:28.720
Unbelievable. I ate the ten feet
high up in there. He ate

1551
01:54:28.960 --> 01:54:33.439
the ten feet high it was it
was lasagna or mackerel. I'm not that's

1552
01:54:33.479 --> 01:54:46.000
funny. Cifly we got up that. That's really funny, pirst of all

1553
01:54:46.399 --> 01:54:53.680
eight to ten feet in the air. Yeah, so orn Dwarf is only

1554
01:54:53.800 --> 01:54:59.000
six feet okay, Like he didn't
get up that high. Maybe eight feet

1555
01:54:59.159 --> 01:55:02.000
maybe he got up feet above,
but that's still that's really high. What

1556
01:55:02.119 --> 01:55:12.640
do you think about it? From
Paul Parlette Orndorf who then cover who then

1557
01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:16.319
covers Blomo for a two count with
Piper Bark and that was three and then

1558
01:55:16.600 --> 01:55:21.439
Orndorf lifts lifts up Blomo and Blomo
counters with a cross body block. It's

1559
01:55:21.439 --> 01:55:24.920
a nice one, too, Ordorff. They'll right back on him with stumps

1560
01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:27.880
to the head corner of the corner
website stepped. Ordorf hits the post shoulder

1561
01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:30.079
first on the charge, clutching his
elbow. Big pop. He's selling it,

1562
01:55:30.319 --> 01:55:33.920
his arms going limp as Blomo does
a bit of a mule kick from

1563
01:55:33.920 --> 01:55:38.479
his knees and then a drop kick, and Ordorff takes a bump and they

1564
01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:41.000
go off in the garden. They
like to see this. They want to

1565
01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:45.119
believe in sal Blomo. Boss,
I mean, you know you want to

1566
01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:48.119
believe in a baby face. I'll
say that was salvatory sincere, an attempt

1567
01:55:48.159 --> 01:55:50.840
to bring sal Balomo back. I
think so. Probably might have been.

1568
01:55:53.079 --> 01:55:56.520
Then paul O'dworff misses an elbow and
they're standing now in the building into peters

1569
01:55:56.560 --> 01:56:00.479
at least as Blomo starts from bringing
out that bad that damaged arm. Feels

1570
01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:03.520
like you didn't have to worry about
sweet and crowd noise bullshit back then.

1571
01:56:03.600 --> 01:56:05.960
Boss. If you heard a pop
on television, it's because the people were

1572
01:56:06.039 --> 01:56:11.640
up. Yep, yep, oh
smoking mirrors. Baaloma with an arm ringer,

1573
01:56:11.680 --> 01:56:15.119
but Orndorff gets a kick in and
a knee lift, and then Baaloma

1574
01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:18.439
with a kind of the disarmour slapped
on basically the becane charm bar. Yeah,

1575
01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:23.319
sits down on the elbow, but
Paul or Dwarf powers with the right

1576
01:56:23.359 --> 01:56:25.960
hand, gets out of there.
Blomo fires back in order or for an

1577
01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:29.600
arm dragon rolls through, and Piper's
pointing to his own head for the hair

1578
01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:32.600
pole, going ah. He's not
saying hair pole, He's going ah.

1579
01:56:35.039 --> 01:56:38.279
And then I'm pretty sure the cameras
catch him say you son of a bitch.

1580
01:56:38.359 --> 01:56:42.119
Ah. But I love that Piper
pounding on the canvas Orndorff with a

1581
01:56:42.159 --> 01:56:45.680
nice Northern lights half backdrop, but
al almost snatches the head scissors and transition,

1582
01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:49.279
and Piper continuing to make noises like
almost like a like a deaf person

1583
01:56:49.319 --> 01:56:53.840
would make noises. You know,
I was able to put together these.

1584
01:56:53.960 --> 01:56:58.600
Get on him, Get on him, don't give him no dice, finish

1585
01:56:58.720 --> 01:57:03.000
him, all right, all right
that I was here with Paul, and

1586
01:57:03.039 --> 01:57:06.359
Dorf moves in for a belloy to
back suplex, almost a saido suplex,

1587
01:57:06.439 --> 01:57:11.239
tough landing for Blomo. Not quite
sure he cared how hard he dropped Bolomo

1588
01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:14.199
in that exchange. Bloma then launches
a heart is launched hard through the ropes

1589
01:57:14.239 --> 01:57:16.439
to the floor and Piper's hovering with
his arms spread over Bolomo on the outside

1590
01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:21.960
and Polwen Dwarf knocks Blomo down into
Roddy Piper and Ordorf then slams blomo heart

1591
01:57:21.960 --> 01:57:27.840
on the concrete outside the ring,
and Pat Patterson lets out a guttural noise

1592
01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:33.199
at the impact. There Gorilla calls
Blomo a gamer. Sure, okay,

1593
01:57:35.239 --> 01:57:41.560
everyone uh, everyone at ringside in
this tight claustrophobic ring side, you know,

1594
01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:45.399
it's it's like there's like two inches
between the apron and the front row,

1595
01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:48.600
so it's so narrow, it's so
real, it's so gritty, it's

1596
01:57:48.600 --> 01:57:54.479
so like you know, instead of
like it's so like antiseptic. Now it's

1597
01:57:54.560 --> 01:57:57.880
like the space between the first row
and the apron, it's always the same.

1598
01:57:57.960 --> 01:58:01.600
It's always perfectly measured. It's it's
always perfectly architect did it looks like

1599
01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:09.000
a toy set, you know?
Anyway, back in Ordroff lifts with a

1600
01:58:09.039 --> 01:58:12.960
great delayed vertical souplex planting. Sal
Balomo floats over to the latter rope press

1601
01:58:13.079 --> 01:58:15.680
to get two and they put over
the heart and fight of sal Blomo,

1602
01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:17.800
who starts throwing from his knees,
but Paulo and Dwarff stands on him.

1603
01:58:18.439 --> 01:58:23.359
Blomo kicking up from his back but
with another slam and Piper applods that and

1604
01:58:23.479 --> 01:58:26.199
he climbs the top rope. Paulo
Dwarf misses a big knee drop off the

1605
01:58:26.279 --> 01:58:29.800
ropes. Blomo comes throwing like a
drunkard, hits a double leg pick up.

1606
01:58:29.920 --> 01:58:32.159
The Italian blood is hot. We're
told it's the Indian blood. For

1607
01:58:32.239 --> 01:58:38.239
Jenny Strongbow, it's the Italian It's
kind of the same thing. Blomo kind

1608
01:58:38.239 --> 01:58:41.159
of does this headbut thing to Paulo
and Dwarf's groin, pushing his legs out,

1609
01:58:41.600 --> 01:58:44.720
and then he does a tackle then
and then a cartwheel. Sal Bloma

1610
01:58:44.760 --> 01:58:47.880
does a cartwheel away from the body
of Paulo and Dwarf. The attack of

1611
01:58:47.960 --> 01:58:53.560
Worndorf Brodor Dwarf still catches him with
a huge power slam he does. He

1612
01:58:53.680 --> 01:58:56.479
lifts Blomo's head on two. He
doesn't want the three count. He doesn't

1613
01:58:56.479 --> 01:59:00.560
want the three count with that.
I fucking I thought that was bad hooks

1614
01:59:00.600 --> 01:59:04.479
him up big delay because it wasn't
like you know what what I thought made

1615
01:59:04.479 --> 01:59:11.359
a bad ass was because the because
it wasn't like he'd had it easy just

1616
01:59:11.439 --> 01:59:14.279
then from below, you know,
beating up Blomo. It was right,

1617
01:59:14.840 --> 01:59:17.560
he had just snuck in a power
slam. Yeah. Yeah, he just

1618
01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:20.800
kind of grabbed it, grabbed it
from the jaws of defeat, and then

1619
01:59:20.840 --> 01:59:25.840
he lifts him and it spikes him
tough with a leaping pile driver from ball

1620
01:59:25.880 --> 01:59:29.039
Orendorf. That may be one of
the best pow drives I've ever seen.

1621
01:59:29.560 --> 01:59:32.399
Yeah, absolutely, I thought the
same thing. It was brilliant, like

1622
01:59:32.520 --> 01:59:35.680
the Yeah, that's the kind of
way you come into a territory right there.

1623
01:59:36.279 --> 01:59:39.920
Seriously, you know, convinced the
people that you hit harder, your

1624
01:59:39.960 --> 01:59:44.640
move's land stronger. One two three, Orn Dwarf beats below Mo and Pat

1625
01:59:44.640 --> 01:59:46.680
Patterson says he gives an E for
effort to Salvator. I'm not quite sure

1626
01:59:46.680 --> 01:59:49.479
he knows what an E means in
the eighth or f grade scheme, but

1627
01:59:49.560 --> 01:59:53.760
that's what he said. Piper comes
in, they embrace, they rush to

1628
01:59:53.800 --> 01:59:57.439
break things up and h and then
they go to break they come back and

1629
01:59:58.319 --> 02:00:00.399
sell with his arms on the referee, Shoal is collapsing like you can't even

1630
02:00:00.600 --> 02:00:05.079
stand After that, he's hurting,
devastating finisher and they go to another break

1631
02:00:05.079 --> 02:00:08.359
and now they come back. The
Intercontinental title is on the line. Now

1632
02:00:08.439 --> 02:00:13.279
Boss here at regular Garden. Tito
Santana, the Pistol Firebird, as Grillaman

1633
02:00:13.359 --> 02:00:15.439
soon calls him, I haven't heard
him, comes out with the red ring

1634
02:00:15.520 --> 02:00:19.479
jacket with Santana written across the shoulders
and add steps down Morocco, the Intercontinental

1635
02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:24.119
title holder and a red hoodie.
You fucking hoodie like he's Kurt Angler or

1636
02:00:24.199 --> 02:00:27.720
something. With your man, Captain
Loue Albano. There we go, he

1637
02:00:27.840 --> 02:00:33.680
guiding light, the fountain of this
information fuck fuck fuck thing introduces Captain Lewis

1638
02:00:33.720 --> 02:00:38.600
Albano with the cheek pierced Albano hamming
it up for the people. And that

1639
02:00:38.760 --> 02:00:42.520
was before he came out. Tito
Santana looking like Baba Booie from The Stern

1640
02:00:42.560 --> 02:00:48.720
Show. By the way, it's
got to him and Morocco put together,

1641
02:00:48.800 --> 02:00:54.239
look like Bobby Yeah right. Shot
of that green icy title with the eagle

1642
02:00:54.279 --> 02:01:00.319
on its face looks like fucking like
the cheapest title belt ever made. Two

1643
02:01:00.439 --> 02:01:03.000
forty four, te Coula Mexico,
which doesn't exist, gets a nice pop.

1644
02:01:03.119 --> 02:01:10.439
The city does not exist. Tequila
Mexico Morocco beach two out of forty

1645
02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:12.359
seven pounds. He was the champ, but didn't wear the belt out to

1646
02:01:12.399 --> 02:01:14.640
the ring. Curiously enough, it
was already at ringside on the table.

1647
02:01:14.880 --> 02:01:18.279
Yeah, and then they cut to
some twenty something who has the Morocco red

1648
02:01:18.319 --> 02:01:21.520
hoodie on with the cutoff arms and
a shirt under it. It's very excited

1649
02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:25.840
to get that screen time. Oh
yeah, hamming it up. And then

1650
02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:30.279
Pat Patterson Cistito is a great athlete
and a former football player, of course,

1651
02:01:30.399 --> 02:01:31.640
so we under way here Tito and
Morocco for the icy strap. Of

1652
02:01:31.720 --> 02:01:34.840
course, Titore somewhere in the South. The Jr just had an orgasm.

1653
02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:40.000
Gart Tito would go on a former
West Texas boy. That's where he met

1654
02:01:40.079 --> 02:01:42.520
Terry Funk played a big role in
Lapsed Funk. As a matter of fact,

1655
02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:45.800
we heard from him on that front. Would go on to win the

1656
02:01:45.840 --> 02:01:48.800
belt from Don Morocco in the Boston
Garden. Not here in MSG. But

1657
02:01:48.880 --> 02:01:53.119
this is sort of like a precursor
to that Morocco with a beard. Interesting,

1658
02:01:53.640 --> 02:01:56.720
Yeah, I've never seen that before
and close cropped, but it's there.

1659
02:01:58.960 --> 02:02:02.119
Gorilla makes a comment that he must
have lost a bet or something or

1660
02:02:02.279 --> 02:02:06.399
that the coming up, and you
know what the fuck was that? I

1661
02:02:06.479 --> 02:02:12.039
guess you grew a beard for the
centennial. I don't know the centennial in

1662
02:02:12.159 --> 02:02:15.680
nineteen seventy six, right, it's
it's over, Like, what's centential you

1663
02:02:15.760 --> 02:02:18.319
talking about talking about? I don't
know, maybe one hundred years since the

1664
02:02:18.359 --> 02:02:24.000
Hawaiian statehood. It wasn't. But
no, I don't get it. The

1665
02:02:24.159 --> 02:02:28.520
centennial. And then Jesus, look
that bad gorilla. God, you lose

1666
02:02:28.560 --> 02:02:31.399
a bet to have that beard like
everyone had back then. Like, what

1667
02:02:31.439 --> 02:02:33.239
are you talking about? I think, I think it's a good it's a

1668
02:02:33.279 --> 02:02:36.920
good beard. Actually I got unkempt
at all. No, it looks good.

1669
02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:41.920
I actually was like I thought he
should have worn the beard more often.

1670
02:02:42.319 --> 02:02:45.960
Yeah. So the lock up is
intense wide base for both as they

1671
02:02:46.000 --> 02:02:50.000
struggles a position tight cut away to
Loue Albano looking around at rings, I

1672
02:02:50.079 --> 02:02:53.159
think of when I when I when
I see a lock up like that,

1673
02:02:53.600 --> 02:02:59.920
I immediately think of the fact that
you're supposed to make it look intense without

1674
02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:02.560
being intense, right, And it's
like, oh my God, Like I

1675
02:03:02.600 --> 02:03:06.000
don't even know how they do that
because they look like they are in it.

1676
02:03:06.439 --> 02:03:12.720
Titanic struggle. In it, Monsoon
points out that little Bano was in

1677
02:03:12.760 --> 02:03:15.840
Tito's corner, which is wrong.
Then we see him move to the far

1678
02:03:15.960 --> 02:03:18.439
side. Oh, actually, that
wasn't wrong. It was Albano didn't realize

1679
02:03:18.439 --> 02:03:20.800
what side of the ring he should
be on. Oh that makes sense,

1680
02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:25.720
an he waddles around. Pat Patterson
says, a great psychology is what's important,

1681
02:03:25.760 --> 02:03:29.119
and that's what Tito Santana has and
nothing is fucking exposing the business there

1682
02:03:29.159 --> 02:03:31.960
back Oh my god, first actual
reference to the whole broadcast at this point,

1683
02:03:32.000 --> 02:03:34.960
from Grilla Monsoon to Hulk Hogan.
They talked about how historic the night's

1684
02:03:34.960 --> 02:03:38.279
going to be and how electric it
is, but they never say Hulk's name

1685
02:03:38.399 --> 02:03:42.359
until yeah, four matches in well, because okay, can I tell you

1686
02:03:42.439 --> 02:03:44.880
something too. By the way,
this is because they mentioned the whole and

1687
02:03:44.880 --> 02:03:46.920
they also talk about backline as well. But yeah, listen, I'm gonna

1688
02:03:46.920 --> 02:03:54.119
play the clip here. But listen, listen. I maybe maybe I it

1689
02:03:54.199 --> 02:03:58.840
doesn't maybe he says something else,
but I'm pretty sure that he says and

1690
02:03:58.920 --> 02:04:02.600
this is for the Icy title because
it's said it in the the the graphic,

1691
02:04:03.520 --> 02:04:10.880
But he says that the only title
match that's happening is the world title

1692
02:04:10.920 --> 02:04:15.680
match listen. Only one title that's
at stake here tonight and a match to

1693
02:04:15.760 --> 02:04:20.000
come up shortly. The newly krown
We're ar Wrestling Federation Champion, the Iron

1694
02:04:20.119 --> 02:04:25.159
Chic this morning an icy title match. During an icy title match, he

1695
02:04:25.199 --> 02:04:29.399
says, there's only one title at
s take oh boy put his belt on

1696
02:04:29.479 --> 02:04:36.720
the line against Holk Hogan. Holy
pandemonium will break loose tonight. Ped Madison

1697
02:04:36.760 --> 02:04:41.119
square guard sure will, I'll tell
you. Blass is very upset. The

1698
02:04:41.239 --> 02:04:44.640
Shek is upset. They thought him
going They were gonna meet Bob Backvin,

1699
02:04:44.880 --> 02:04:47.960
but obviously Bob Beckman is not capable
to step in the ring and go for

1700
02:04:48.039 --> 02:04:53.000
the championship. He is hurt.
The doctor suggests as he should not wrestle,

1701
02:04:53.520 --> 02:04:57.479
so therefore he is not going to
be here, and Glassy and the

1702
02:04:57.600 --> 02:05:03.439
Sheik are very very upset. Absolutely
indeed, and Monsoon says hull Commania will

1703
02:05:03.479 --> 02:05:10.359
break out here tonight, so everyone
knows to stay tuned. Yes, Chavanni

1704
02:05:10.359 --> 02:05:14.479
giving away the fully title win.
Basically, Julkamania will break out in hives.

1705
02:05:15.720 --> 02:05:18.239
It remains to be seen. So
Santana loads with forearms headlock, takeover

1706
02:05:18.439 --> 02:05:21.680
Patterson says, Santana will ask wrestlers
please watch my match. I want to

1707
02:05:21.720 --> 02:05:26.560
know what mistakes I'm making backstage.
Oh my god, Santana's cranking headlock on

1708
02:05:26.600 --> 02:05:30.119
the canvas. Pretty sure? Okay, Tino, Okay, fine, I

1709
02:05:30.199 --> 02:05:33.079
get it. I'm gonna go home. But nobody wants to watch your math

1710
02:05:33.159 --> 02:05:36.560
family. But I'm gonna watch you
do another headlock takeover instead. One wants

1711
02:05:36.600 --> 02:05:40.920
to go home and eat his lasagna. But no, watch your fucking bullshit

1712
02:05:41.000 --> 02:05:43.920
match. I'm pretty sure I hear
a light Tito sucks chant. He did

1713
02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:49.279
have some kind of anti New York
like kind of like really annoying. I

1714
02:05:49.319 --> 02:05:51.720
don't know he was. He was. He was generally loved, but there's

1715
02:05:51.760 --> 02:05:55.920
something about his style against a Morocco
where he comes off too much of a

1716
02:05:56.000 --> 02:05:58.479
goodie two shoes exactly. He's a
goodie two shoes. And he also,

1717
02:05:58.600 --> 02:06:00.840
I mean listen at this point.
I mean, actually, I'd say most

1718
02:06:00.840 --> 02:06:08.600
of his career he looks like a
dufus. He's gotta he's got his haircuts.

1719
02:06:09.319 --> 02:06:14.000
The only haircut that I ever really
liked that he had was actually his

1720
02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:17.680
Almatador haircut. You know, that
was the only haircut that worked. Other

1721
02:06:17.760 --> 02:06:24.640
than that, he looks like a
moron, but big, bushy, fucking

1722
02:06:24.800 --> 02:06:30.319
mob Yeah, he's bobbing hair.
I was gonna yeah. And then that

1723
02:06:30.520 --> 02:06:35.079
like you know in the uh,
the the later eighties and the early nineties

1724
02:06:35.119 --> 02:06:41.199
with that fucking that bushy you know, metal rocker hair. Oh yeah,

1725
02:06:41.199 --> 02:06:43.680
he had full ladies hair, no
doubt. If that's not your taste,

1726
02:06:43.720 --> 02:06:47.000
then it's not. It's just like
he looks just weird, like he just

1727
02:06:47.600 --> 02:06:51.439
he looks like a guy who's trying
to be relevant kind of you know,

1728
02:06:53.399 --> 02:06:57.000
comes off like a tryhard like And
I always liked Titos Santana. I think

1729
02:06:57.000 --> 02:07:01.279
he's great, and but like,
dude, you're not You're not You're definitely

1730
02:07:01.319 --> 02:07:05.119
not a guy who knows what cool
is interesting? Okay, Like he's just

1731
02:07:05.239 --> 02:07:10.479
not your thing. Just you gotta
be you and be a dufus. Santana

1732
02:07:10.520 --> 02:07:13.920
slams, and Morocco's headed too the
mat or the matt cover as Monsoon calls

1733
02:07:13.960 --> 02:07:16.920
it again another headlock takeover that actually
gets too as Pat Patterson says Tito's mom

1734
02:07:16.960 --> 02:07:20.000
and his dad and his brothers are
actually in attendance. Tonight says he met

1735
02:07:20.479 --> 02:07:24.359
Tito's uncles and his aunts and took
pictures and he has pictures that they have

1736
02:07:24.479 --> 02:07:27.359
pictures of Tito and their wallet,
and they're very proud of him. Tito

1737
02:07:27.439 --> 02:07:30.319
drops a knee, gets too working
Morocco on the mat forever. It seems

1738
02:07:30.359 --> 02:07:34.079
like God, this fucking headlock sweet
Atari and Budweiser logos. If you're just

1739
02:07:34.159 --> 02:07:36.840
if you want some distractions there up
in the marquee. I think he.

1740
02:07:38.000 --> 02:07:41.840
I think he actually is trying out
to be the our headlock gimmick. Yeah,

1741
02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:44.680
I think so. They talked about
like the holy fucking does he like?

1742
02:07:44.760 --> 02:07:46.239
They break up the hold and they
go back to the headlock. What

1743
02:07:46.319 --> 02:07:48.600
does the msg? Marquis says,
coming up soon? Up there in the

1744
02:07:48.680 --> 02:07:51.960
lit sign. This is probably where
Patterson got it from Ice Capades. There

1745
02:07:53.039 --> 02:07:58.680
we gods. Morocco then stands up
in the headlock and grabs Santana's knee pad

1746
02:07:58.720 --> 02:08:01.279
and lifts him with a big side
backbreaker. Very cool the way he slowly

1747
02:08:01.359 --> 02:08:05.319
methodically got in a position to deliver
that. Morocco with trouble getting to his

1748
02:08:05.359 --> 02:08:09.119
footing. As Santana sweeps the leg, he yanks to Morocco up off the

1749
02:08:09.199 --> 02:08:13.399
ropes and does another headlog takeover,
cranking and arching to get to yes stick

1750
02:08:13.520 --> 02:08:18.439
Lutz presiding. Here is Tito Santana's
grimacing and breathing like crazy, forcing Morocco's

1751
02:08:18.439 --> 02:08:20.720
shoulders to the mat for a series
of one twos, Albano looking like he's

1752
02:08:20.760 --> 02:08:24.479
a statue at ringside. I mean, do nothing. I know, it's

1753
02:08:24.600 --> 02:08:28.359
honestly, it's like the you know, you rarely ever see him do nothing?

1754
02:08:28.640 --> 02:08:33.600
What a monsoon column? Uh well, oh yeah, here I got

1755
02:08:33.640 --> 02:08:43.199
that for you. Oh oh wait
a minute, what where is it?

1756
02:08:43.560 --> 02:08:48.319
I haven't the greatest Oh wait,
I'm in the wrong match. Here there

1757
02:08:48.359 --> 02:08:52.720
we go, my bad. Look
at the look on that face. The

1758
02:08:52.840 --> 02:08:58.479
greatest walking advertisement for birth control I've
ever seen in my entire life. I

1759
02:08:58.560 --> 02:09:03.920
think that's what you'd call Vince.
Now he's probably part of it. Back

1760
02:09:03.039 --> 02:09:07.840
up Santana, ringing that headlock out
putting more. I bet Gorilla was was

1761
02:09:07.920 --> 02:09:13.199
part of the trafficking back in the
day. He was the one that who

1762
02:09:13.319 --> 02:09:18.760
called him. I think remember Emily
Fineberg said in the trial that she called

1763
02:09:18.800 --> 02:09:22.399
Gorilla and he was like sympathetic towards
her, but it was it was it

1764
02:09:22.520 --> 02:09:26.720
her, and I'm thinking I think
it was I believe I believe it was

1765
02:09:26.800 --> 02:09:33.760
Rida Marie. It was Rida chatteredon
any of I believe any of them could

1766
02:09:33.800 --> 02:09:37.600
have been sympathetic, because that's what
Vince told him to be putting more.

1767
02:09:37.960 --> 02:09:41.119
Tito was putting more to this headlock
than anything you've ever seen. Yes,

1768
02:09:41.279 --> 02:09:46.960
I know, he rolls to a
lateral press for two and it's so annoying.

1769
02:09:46.079 --> 02:09:48.840
Well, it reminds me to ever
tell the story before about how one

1770
02:09:48.880 --> 02:09:52.039
of my good friends in elementary school
we were horsing around at a school function

1771
02:09:52.479 --> 02:09:54.880
on some blue gym mats and he
put a headlock on me and I couldn't

1772
02:09:54.920 --> 02:10:01.119
get out, really such a traumatic
memory. So he was crank cranking,

1773
02:10:01.520 --> 02:10:05.399
and I was just I just wanted
to break it. I didn't want to

1774
02:10:05.479 --> 02:10:07.960
do anything but break the headlock.
And he had me down, and I

1775
02:10:07.079 --> 02:10:11.760
just remember that the vice like feeling
on my ears, and how hot my

1776
02:10:11.920 --> 02:10:16.319
head got, pull my head out
from the from the vice grip he had

1777
02:10:16.399 --> 02:10:18.760
on me, and just how like
defeated. I felt that I basically had

1778
02:10:18.800 --> 02:10:22.880
to beg him to let it go
instead of finding a way out. I

1779
02:10:22.079 --> 02:10:24.399
just I still remember that, and
for some reason, when I saw this

1780
02:10:24.520 --> 02:10:28.960
match the bone to bone, the
temple, to the to the forearm bone

1781
02:10:28.039 --> 02:10:31.960
or whatever it was came back to
me, So there's you know that kind

1782
02:10:31.960 --> 02:10:35.039
of stuff. It made me feel
very claustrophobic in the fact when I couldn't,

1783
02:10:35.840 --> 02:10:39.840
I really can't get out. It
freaked me out. Get out and

1784
02:10:39.119 --> 02:10:43.920
what you do? Cry? Right, And I was like seven crossed my

1785
02:10:43.000 --> 02:10:46.840
mind just to cry. You know, maybe that'll work because I'm I'm stuck

1786
02:10:46.920 --> 02:10:50.600
here exactly. I could be listen, I could be stuck here forever,

1787
02:10:52.079 --> 02:10:56.039
yep, until I die in this
guy's arm, until you die while getting

1788
02:10:56.039 --> 02:10:58.880
restless. Sounds like some booze breaking
out. Morocco stands, laces the leg

1789
02:11:00.039 --> 02:11:03.600
side Russian La sweep you break out
the booze. This fucking match. Morocco

1790
02:11:03.680 --> 02:11:07.359
working this almost like a face.
It seems like, honestly, yeah,

1791
02:11:07.560 --> 02:11:09.319
Morocco the elbows Santana in the back
of the head and does a running power

1792
02:11:09.359 --> 02:11:11.680
slam out of the corner, nicely
done by Don Morocco. That gets to

1793
02:11:13.079 --> 02:11:16.800
Tito fights up, slugging away drops
Morocco does them stomps. Albano gets in

1794
02:11:16.840 --> 02:11:20.159
the ring and Tito goes after him. Albano, of course standing and then

1795
02:11:20.239 --> 02:11:24.159
flies into the ropes like he's trying
to tie himself up. It fails,

1796
02:11:24.800 --> 02:11:28.520
sloppy, it bounces and hits the
floor to the corner. Tito sores for

1797
02:11:28.600 --> 02:11:33.199
an elbow smash and lands on nothing, hitting the bottom rope instead. As

1798
02:11:33.279 --> 02:11:37.800
Morocco gets out of the way,
pat Patterson can't believe that Albano entered the

1799
02:11:37.840 --> 02:11:41.359
ring and it wasn't a disc immediate
disqualification. What does he think he is?

1800
02:11:41.479 --> 02:11:48.960
Fucking Peter Fauk and all the he
does think that Morocco goes to the

1801
02:11:48.159 --> 02:11:52.159
middle rope up to the top,
Tito cuts him off. Morocco's punching him,

1802
02:11:52.359 --> 02:11:56.920
and Tito answers, and the bell
sounds as Don Morocco pulls Tito and

1803
02:11:58.039 --> 02:12:01.399
they both spill through the ropes to
the floor. And of course, back

1804
02:12:01.479 --> 02:12:05.359
then you kept slugging after the bell
sounded. Of course a disqualification, so

1805
02:12:05.439 --> 02:12:07.560
the fans didn't really notice that they
got a screwjob finished. And it's this

1806
02:12:07.840 --> 02:12:13.359
still a knockdown, drag out fight. Santana rams Morocco's head into the post

1807
02:12:13.399 --> 02:12:16.039
and the ringside table in front of
Pat Patterson, and then Morocco kicks Tito.

1808
02:12:16.119 --> 02:12:20.239
Santana and the nuts and takes off
with his belt. Microphone drops from

1809
02:12:20.239 --> 02:12:24.279
the ceiling. I really don't understand
what the fuck happened here, Bud,

1810
02:12:24.239 --> 02:12:26.399
Like a double DQ. It just
got out of hand. I know,

1811
02:12:26.520 --> 02:12:31.159
I don't understand, but like,
why there's such weird referee calls in this

1812
02:12:31.399 --> 02:12:35.800
in this show. Yeah, I
don't understand what Morocco. I understand what

1813
02:12:35.840 --> 02:12:39.840
Tito did to get disqualified, right, I want to say what each of

1814
02:12:39.880 --> 02:12:41.600
them did to give qualified? Honestco, I mean, fucking hell, Bano

1815
02:12:41.600 --> 02:12:43.920
got in the ring, So if
you're to do a DQ, it should

1816
02:12:43.960 --> 02:12:46.159
have been then yeah, I mean
who cares, right, I mean Morocco

1817
02:12:46.199 --> 02:12:50.800
loses by DQ, that's that's the
move. But the mike drops, then

1818
02:12:50.840 --> 02:12:52.479
it lifts again. Uh, let's
just talking a finger explaining things. And

1819
02:12:52.520 --> 02:12:56.119
in sixteen oh three, Fink announced
that the referees disqualified both men a double

1820
02:12:56.159 --> 02:12:58.239
DQ, and monsoon to straight up
says, what you just said, I

1821
02:12:58.279 --> 02:13:03.279
don't understand it. Yeah, maybe
we'll get an explanation later. So it's

1822
02:13:03.279 --> 02:13:05.600
almost like there's a chance that Dick
Lutz fucked up what he was telling.

1823
02:13:07.600 --> 02:13:11.680
What he was telling Fink to announce
is the thing? Now another example of

1824
02:13:13.079 --> 02:13:16.960
just the enterprising Solar system, best
listeners and podcasting, and our homie Zach

1825
02:13:16.079 --> 02:13:18.680
just keeps coming with this wonderful idea
of like, hey, if I know

1826
02:13:18.720 --> 02:13:22.439
what show you guys are doing,
let me see if I can't deploy a

1827
02:13:22.479 --> 02:13:26.880
little cheddar for the benefit of everybody. Overrun cameo, oh boy, it's

1828
02:13:26.960 --> 02:13:28.800
how we got Tito's views on Terry
Funk into the lapsed Funk. It's how

1829
02:13:28.840 --> 02:13:33.479
we got mikey Ripreck's anecdote about Terry
Funk kind of in a sad later period

1830
02:13:33.479 --> 02:13:37.119
of his career when he wasn't necessarily
remembering things he was saying and doing.

1831
02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:41.199
And here Zach delivers once again.
Out of the clear blue sky, Bless

1832
02:13:41.279 --> 02:13:46.560
the man. Wonderful listener. Tito
Santana asked for memories of this night in

1833
02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:54.239
nineteen eighty four, and I'm not
going to say he didn't disappoint. This

1834
02:13:54.920 --> 02:14:03.600
is w E Hall of Famer Tito
Santana given a shout out to Jack asked

1835
02:14:03.640 --> 02:14:11.039
of me by Zach Volk. You
asked me if I have any recollection of

1836
02:14:11.199 --> 02:14:16.840
when I wrestled down Morocco and Hulk
Hogan won the title in nineteen eighty four.

1837
02:14:18.000 --> 02:14:22.880
In Medicine Square Garden, and I
really don't remember much of that night.

1838
02:14:22.680 --> 02:14:28.439
I do remember that everybody knew that
we were going to start something special.

1839
02:14:28.520 --> 02:14:31.680
There was a lot of changes going
to be taking place in the WWF,

1840
02:14:33.159 --> 02:14:37.840
Tito Santana was going to be the
new IC title champion, and on

1841
02:14:37.199 --> 02:14:41.359
and on and on. It was
a great night at Medicine Square Garden.

1842
02:14:41.600 --> 02:14:48.199
I had a great match. I
believe if I either beat Don Morocco or

1843
02:14:48.439 --> 02:14:52.439
he still had the title, because
I did. I did beat him in

1844
02:14:52.560 --> 02:14:58.800
the Boston Garden. So that's all
I remember. But Jack, I want

1845
02:14:58.840 --> 02:15:05.680
to thank you for being a Tito
Santana fan, and without you, none

1846
02:15:05.720 --> 02:15:11.039
of us would be who we are. Thank you again. I guess where

1847
02:15:11.079 --> 02:15:16.119
the problem is. What he's saying. Tremendous stuff Tito with bringing the heat.

1848
02:15:18.159 --> 02:15:20.279
Thanks for looking up the match,
Tito. Thanks yeah, thanks for

1849
02:15:20.439 --> 02:15:24.439
you know, it's all available on
YouTube or you know, pecock if you

1850
02:15:24.560 --> 02:15:33.319
want to go. I wasn't expecting
the pacock there. Well done. They

1851
02:15:33.399 --> 02:15:37.199
take a break to come back.
Geane oakerland Is with Tito. Only one

1852
02:15:37.239 --> 02:15:39.880
thought that should not have been over. It wasn't I had you where I

1853
02:15:39.960 --> 02:15:41.439
wanted you I know I had the
man beat. I don't understand why the

1854
02:15:41.560 --> 02:15:46.319
refereng that. Bell Jean says the
consensus of the broadcast teams that perhaps Don

1855
02:15:46.439 --> 02:15:50.039
Rocco automatically was just qualified because Loue
Albano was in there, and Santana says,

1856
02:15:50.039 --> 02:15:54.079
I don't want that until to happen. I want a pin in the

1857
02:15:54.119 --> 02:15:56.479
middle of the ring. Somebody should
lock him up and keep him out.

1858
02:15:56.840 --> 02:15:58.840
That is Albano. Of course,
Tito's intennis. I'm the champion as far

1859
02:15:58.840 --> 02:16:01.960
as concerned, brother, and Oakland
has to cut him off. So there's

1860
02:16:01.960 --> 02:16:07.000
an ariba from Tito Santana. Yes, come on that front. Janie Oakland

1861
02:16:07.159 --> 02:16:09.640
says, there's no way I see
a double dis qualification. Pardon me.

1862
02:16:09.920 --> 02:16:13.000
Grim Monsoon said that. So they
they walked that back pretty quickly. Yeah,

1863
02:16:13.239 --> 02:16:16.359
yeah, I mean, I don't
know what the fuck happened there.

1864
02:16:16.199 --> 02:16:20.039
All's our next. Oh. I
feel very enlightened by what Tito. He

1865
02:16:20.159 --> 02:16:24.600
provided so much more context. Context
of that. You take a look at

1866
02:16:24.600 --> 02:16:26.560
the match, you know, then
you probably would have remembered, right if

1867
02:16:26.600 --> 02:16:30.359
there was a fucked up finish or
something. Maybe a little bit of the

1868
02:16:30.359 --> 02:16:33.120
effort there. That's better than Ricky
Stembo give me a twenty minute tour of

1869
02:16:33.159 --> 02:16:37.440
his basement when I asked him about
shooting the dragon vignettes when he came in,

1870
02:16:37.000 --> 02:16:41.559
I guess enchilados are very good.
Yeah, it's nowhere in that that

1871
02:16:41.719 --> 02:16:46.760
category. Not many are. I
think calls our next match a very special

1872
02:16:46.760 --> 02:16:50.639
attraction for the most outstanding midget wrestlers
in the world. Two undre three falls,

1873
02:16:50.680 --> 02:16:54.520
best thirty minute time limit from Boston
hundred and fifteen pounds. Dana Carpenter.

1874
02:16:54.639 --> 02:16:58.040
Is that Dana Rosenblatt. Dana Carpenter
Carpenter. There are a lot of

1875
02:16:58.159 --> 02:17:03.479
Carpenter's named Dan, so not Dana
Herssey either, Right. Montreal won twenty

1876
02:17:03.520 --> 02:17:07.000
five. It's punch Oh boy,
they have punchos in Montreal. I think

1877
02:17:07.040 --> 02:17:09.719
he's the wrong, wrong part of
the North America. Yeah, and the

1878
02:17:09.799 --> 02:17:13.360
opposition is comprised from the Isle of
Haiti hundred pounds Haiti kid, and from

1879
02:17:13.440 --> 02:17:18.280
Jacksonville, Florida Tiger Jackson at eighty
two pounds ladies, and believable little nos

1880
02:17:18.360 --> 02:17:22.680
fat too looking dude seriously is Monson
says, it looks like Tiger Jackson's dad

1881
02:17:22.760 --> 02:17:26.440
is referring the matchup and he says, these guys are worth a price of

1882
02:17:26.479 --> 02:17:28.840
admission, and if I wasn't here, I would buy a ticket. Monson

1883
02:17:28.840 --> 02:17:31.959
says Jackson looks like a miniature skull
Murphy God, rest of soul and old

1884
02:17:33.239 --> 02:17:35.319
school. Heal, Yeah, here's
here's the talk. I mean. Also,

1885
02:17:35.520 --> 02:17:41.479
you know Gorilla talks about calls him
Dan Carpenter, Damn Carpenter. If

1886
02:17:41.520 --> 02:17:45.799
he gets any bigger, pat he'll
have to find a job. Yeah.

1887
02:17:46.200 --> 02:17:50.000
Uh, he is a midget,
but he's a little big for the other

1888
02:17:50.079 --> 02:17:52.840
guy. Yes, he is.
I always, like you mentioned, I

1889
02:17:52.840 --> 02:18:01.360
always enjoy watching the midget right,
the painting very fun. Oh my god.

1890
02:18:01.559 --> 02:18:05.719
Okay, Dan, okay, Dan, you suck the charisma out of

1891
02:18:05.799 --> 02:18:11.000
him any faster, Dan Carpenter,
where's the bathroom? You know? Where's

1892
02:18:11.479 --> 02:18:22.600
Dan Coppinger? Is is this the
WWF wrestler or is this the shop steward.

1893
02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:28.120
Dan Carpenter sounds like the treasurer of
the local Dan Carpenter. I'd like

1894
02:18:28.200 --> 02:18:31.040
to you, thank you, thank
you everyone for coming to this meeting tonight.

1895
02:18:31.040 --> 02:18:35.079
I'd like to, you know,
introduce the president of the Elks Club.

1896
02:18:35.200 --> 02:18:39.639
This is Dan Coppenter. Yeah,
it's funny. Dan Carpenter is in

1897
02:18:39.680 --> 02:18:43.000
the iron workers union, but Dan, iron workers in the Carpenter's Union.

1898
02:18:50.000 --> 02:18:54.600
You're correct, it's that fucking cast
bitch t lf ax, Get fucked,

1899
02:18:54.959 --> 02:18:58.200
Get fucked. In twenty twenty four, Dan Coppinger, Haiti Kid and Tiger

1900
02:18:58.280 --> 02:19:01.799
Jackson, Ristina Arbitter and Poncho Boy, So Tiger his pants a Pancho,

1901
02:19:03.159 --> 02:19:05.399
They shriek and laugh, not quick
enough getting his pants off. Grilla months

1902
02:19:05.399 --> 02:19:11.920
Soon says, all this is just
rough man. Tiger Jackson and Dana Carpenter

1903
02:19:11.120 --> 02:19:13.639
starting the match up. Pat Patter
says, isn't he cute? I'm like,

1904
02:19:13.719 --> 02:19:18.239
oh boy, Tiger and Pancho mix
it up. No hair to grab

1905
02:19:18.280 --> 02:19:20.520
it, by the way on the
bald head of Tiger Jackson and comedy though

1906
02:19:20.719 --> 02:19:24.600
to tackle, Puncho goes down monkey
flip. At that point, Puncho with

1907
02:19:24.600 --> 02:19:28.280
the arm bar slapping Tiger's bald head, and girl Montsuon says, Pancho didn't

1908
02:19:28.319 --> 02:19:33.760
miss too many meials. Tiger backflips
from a snap mare. He's definitely got

1909
02:19:33.840 --> 02:19:37.600
a pouch for a belly for sure, and drop kicks Poncho down. Flying

1910
02:19:37.600 --> 02:19:41.959
Head Scissor and the crowd pops replay. They replay the drop kick in the

1911
02:19:41.959 --> 02:19:46.040
head scissors there from Tiger Jackson,
Tiger with a head stand into a head

1912
02:19:46.040 --> 02:19:50.120
scissor, and then Poncho extracts himself
and twist Tiger like a top on his

1913
02:19:50.200 --> 02:19:54.680
head, spins him like a top
on the canvas. Does Patterson pop's big

1914
02:19:54.719 --> 02:19:58.159
As Tiger comes up in the leaps, Haiti comes in with the series of

1915
02:19:58.239 --> 02:20:01.600
dropkicks, does a backdrop on Dana. Dana leap frogs over the backdrop,

1916
02:20:01.639 --> 02:20:03.719
and Haiti drop kick from behind the
floor. Listen to Patterson later on.

1917
02:20:03.840 --> 02:20:11.360
This is from later on, but
listen to him. It's great, that's

1918
02:20:11.360 --> 02:20:15.559
great, pat Yeah, it's really
funny. It's funny to see someone do

1919
02:20:15.680 --> 02:20:18.840
that dropkick from behind by Haiti kid
to Dana. Carpentry goes to the floor

1920
02:20:20.120 --> 02:20:22.040
long way down for these little guys. Grilla points out to the concrete concrete,

1921
02:20:22.799 --> 02:20:26.280
and then a tiger for no reason
comes collapsing over the top rope and

1922
02:20:26.319 --> 02:20:28.680
Haiti with a full nelson on Dana
Carpenter and Pancho nails his own partner.

1923
02:20:28.760 --> 02:20:33.360
But I hope these guys, like
you know, after the matches and after

1924
02:20:33.399 --> 02:20:37.639
the nights, I hope to god
they would go back to one of their

1925
02:20:37.719 --> 02:20:43.360
houses or something or apartments or whatever, and just like bitch and and just

1926
02:20:43.479 --> 02:20:50.000
talk about how fucking idiotic the the
the the taller folk are. Yeah,

1927
02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:54.280
exactly. I hope they talked as
much about them as I mean, because

1928
02:20:54.360 --> 02:21:00.280
like motherfuckers, like they're just so
it's so condescending. It's so you know,

1929
02:21:00.479 --> 02:21:03.319
I mean, I get it,
this is the time period. I'm

1930
02:21:03.680 --> 02:21:09.319
not, but it's like even so, you know, you'd wish people had

1931
02:21:09.360 --> 02:21:13.280
a little more about anything like this, you know, any any sort of

1932
02:21:13.319 --> 02:21:20.200
situation with someone that's quote unquote different. Now they call them micro brawlers.

1933
02:21:20.280 --> 02:21:22.319
Now it's a micro all the time. They call them micro brawlers. Well,

1934
02:21:22.479 --> 02:21:26.680
yeah, there's like a reality show
on Discovery right now micro they call

1935
02:21:26.319 --> 02:21:31.799
uh, you know, they call
the bigger folk macro macro brawl. Well,

1936
02:21:31.799 --> 02:21:35.920
it depends if they're trying to predict
interest rates or not. Haiti with

1937
02:21:35.920 --> 02:21:39.719
a full Nelson on Dana Carpenter Pancho, Nils's own partner. That's always a

1938
02:21:39.719 --> 02:21:41.719
great prat fall spot for the Minis. Tiger comes in with the big mismatch

1939
02:21:41.719 --> 02:21:45.840
in Dana Carpenter and Danta tags out
to Poncho. Pancho slams, Tiger covers

1940
02:21:45.920 --> 02:21:48.479
him for one refrolls over the ref's
head and go the whole thing where the

1941
02:21:48.520 --> 02:21:52.920
ref is praying with his hands,
and that the guys stopped throwing each other

1942
02:21:54.040 --> 02:21:58.399
onto him. A Santos romos is
the referee punto with the hiptos. Tiger

1943
02:21:58.479 --> 02:22:00.959
goes to the middle rope like they
like that. They like when he goes

1944
02:22:01.000 --> 02:22:03.719
up top. That was like when
a mini climbs the ropes and he has

1945
02:22:03.719 --> 02:22:07.840
the sunset flip stacks him up one, two, three. Uh Dania lands

1946
02:22:07.840 --> 02:22:09.239
on the ref's head, kicking out. But first of all, it goes

1947
02:22:09.280 --> 02:22:13.120
to Tiger Jackson and the no one. No one told me it was a

1948
02:22:13.200 --> 02:22:15.559
two out of three falls match and
they said that at the beginning. Yeah

1949
02:22:15.559 --> 02:22:18.120
they did. Fortunately, I was
braced for it. Go to break,

1950
02:22:18.159 --> 02:22:20.479
they come back, Katie and Puncho
mixing it up, and then they go

1951
02:22:20.520 --> 02:22:22.520
to another break. And then when
they come back, Haiti is no selling

1952
02:22:22.559 --> 02:22:26.040
him to the buckle. Uh as
his of course because you know it's a

1953
02:22:26.079 --> 02:22:30.879
hard head, right, because he's
he's he's from an island, a tropical

1954
02:22:30.959 --> 02:22:33.200
climate. Yeah, so those who
come from an island have a thicker skull,

1955
02:22:33.280 --> 02:22:39.799
which insinuates a smaller brain. But
here's here's a fucking gorilla Monsoon with

1956
02:22:39.959 --> 02:22:48.159
his racist stereotype. I got his
head hard, don't it's not the way

1957
02:22:48.239 --> 02:22:58.360
to get him. He loves that. He loves that also, I mean,

1958
02:22:58.680 --> 02:23:01.280
you know, gorilla, you know
he is getting his head smashed into

1959
02:23:01.360 --> 02:23:07.360
a pillow. I know. The
weirder thing is when guys do get hurt

1960
02:23:07.440 --> 02:23:11.479
doing that. To me? Is
the problem tacked to Dana Carpenter, who's

1961
02:23:11.479 --> 02:23:15.040
holding that tag rope man, but
it's like too short. He's pulling it

1962
02:23:15.159 --> 02:23:18.079
tout, you know, yeah,
and the thing goes flinging when he lets

1963
02:23:18.120 --> 02:23:20.799
it go because he's pulling it that
hard. Interesting souplex by Haiti Katy whips

1964
02:23:20.840 --> 02:23:24.000
him around kind of off to the
side, and as he lifts him,

1965
02:23:24.440 --> 02:23:28.079
then there's a pigpile on the referees
back. The ref comes up all indignant

1966
02:23:28.079 --> 02:23:31.000
about it, and then there's a
four way crisscross spot for you. This

1967
02:23:31.239 --> 02:23:35.959
was because it's like it's like you
got three guys going one way, I

1968
02:23:37.040 --> 02:23:41.879
mean, Haiti kid going the other
way. And needless to say, that's

1969
02:23:41.920 --> 02:23:50.040
the one that intrigued Pat Patterson.
I'm sorry to do it, so uh

1970
02:23:50.280 --> 02:23:54.799
Haiti Kin ends up in the middle
of this crisscross directing traffic, essentially surprising

1971
02:23:54.920 --> 02:23:58.879
swallow his whistle like the guy in
crosty, and then he says look up,

1972
02:24:00.040 --> 02:24:01.360
and then he snatches one in an
airplane spin, and then Poncha cuts

1973
02:24:01.399 --> 02:24:03.879
him off, and Dana lands on
a Haiti kid. I guess that gets

1974
02:24:03.879 --> 02:24:07.959
a two that Haiti's now on top
somehow, and uh yeah, this was

1975
02:24:09.159 --> 02:24:16.319
This was so fucking bizarre because like
the like the referee doesn't know what to

1976
02:24:16.399 --> 02:24:20.120
do, he doesn't know what to
do here, and there's like confusion and

1977
02:24:22.040 --> 02:24:24.639
and all of a sudden, Haiti
kid is on Haiti kid is on top

1978
02:24:24.799 --> 02:24:31.360
of Carpenter. Carpenter has done nothing, has not received any move at all

1979
02:24:31.040 --> 02:24:37.639
to qualify him to be pinned,
and the referee comes over, right,

1980
02:24:37.719 --> 02:24:41.559
the referee like comes over. It's
like, uh one, two and he

1981
02:24:41.680 --> 02:24:50.079
holds it up and then okay three, amazing like slaps three anyway, God

1982
02:24:50.159 --> 02:24:52.879
help us, he slaps three.
I don't know Dana Carpenter's grabbing the rope.

1983
02:24:54.680 --> 02:24:58.559
I don't know what the fuck happened
here, but there was obviously some

1984
02:24:58.959 --> 02:25:03.520
big miscommunication talk about the fucking trivia
question. What match came before Hogan beat

1985
02:25:03.559 --> 02:25:07.520
the chic Ah Right, Jesus Christ, this is it? So now it's

1986
02:25:07.520 --> 02:25:09.959
split one fall of fee piece and
Monson says the ref obviously must have gotten

1987
02:25:09.959 --> 02:25:13.159
whacked in the head when they were
on top of them. There they go

1988
02:25:13.239 --> 02:25:18.159
to break, they come back and
there's like no announcement or anything. Think

1989
02:25:18.280 --> 02:25:22.520
is in the ring to and it's
like over. So yep, there's something

1990
02:25:22.680 --> 02:25:26.000
something went long or something. He
ended this match during commercial break and that

1991
02:25:26.159 --> 02:25:30.639
is that. So I'm not even
sure. Let's see if the results say

1992
02:25:30.639 --> 02:25:35.319
who won. Yeah, it shows
Haiti Kid and Tiger Jackson beating Dana Carbon

1993
02:25:35.360 --> 02:25:37.840
turn punch your boy. Uh six
fifty three, two falls to one,

1994
02:25:37.879 --> 02:25:41.239
Okay, so that was that was
two falls to one, two falls.

1995
02:25:41.319 --> 02:25:45.440
Yeah, they wouldn't have they do
the announcement into the announcement of the winner.

1996
02:25:46.920 --> 02:25:50.280
Well, it's why we're here.
To Geno Courland. Yeah, the

1997
02:25:50.360 --> 02:25:54.239
Iotola Freddy Blassie in his head,
dressed and the rest of his career just

1998
02:25:54.319 --> 02:25:56.799
moments away. Listen to what he
says too. He says, this is

1999
02:25:56.920 --> 02:26:01.879
Gorilla and we're going to play for
you. Like hearing rilamon Soon saying ww

2000
02:26:01.120 --> 02:26:07.600
Champion Iron cheek is such a weird
thing. Let's rustin fans, Let's go

2001
02:26:07.639 --> 02:26:13.120
to gene Okerland in the interview area
with the fabulous fred Pleassi and the WWF

2002
02:26:13.239 --> 02:26:20.840
champion, the Iron Chic. All
right from Medison Square Garden, Ladies and

2003
02:26:20.959 --> 02:26:24.200
gentlemen, ayatola, Freddie Blasi,
you are living now a lifelong dream right

2004
02:26:24.280 --> 02:26:28.280
now in your stable, the world's
heavyweight champion, the iron Cheek. But

2005
02:26:28.920 --> 02:26:33.479
the test of his career just moments
away here at Medison Square Guarden. In

2006
02:26:33.600 --> 02:26:37.200
other words, they pulled the ninety
six er honors here. We were trained

2007
02:26:37.360 --> 02:26:39.440
prepared for Bob Becklan. They snuck
his pencil and that geek in on us.

2008
02:26:39.600 --> 02:26:43.079
Well, I guarantee his size means
no difference, nothing to us,

2009
02:26:43.280 --> 02:26:48.360
because I've been having the iron cheek
training and sporing with Fuller six foot nine,

2010
02:26:48.440 --> 02:26:52.239
six foot ten, and I guarantee
you the camel clutch has worked on

2011
02:26:52.360 --> 02:26:54.840
him, and I know it'll work
on Hulk Hogan. All right, let

2012
02:26:54.920 --> 02:26:58.399
me talk to the man who is
currently the rating World Wrestling Federation Champion.

2013
02:27:00.040 --> 02:27:03.959
Am I ran the iron cheek are
doubly the step is testd up your short

2014
02:27:05.040 --> 02:27:18.360
career as the world champion salam Fat
made mischister, I know you speak English,

2015
02:27:18.440 --> 02:27:22.319
chic Please, okay, you know
what I said. I said,

2016
02:27:22.360 --> 02:27:28.840
I think in this country a lot
of perasas people is. There's no Andrell

2017
02:27:28.959 --> 02:27:35.040
Olympic champin I'm the world class a
you champion, now I'm the champlain,

2018
02:27:37.319 --> 02:27:41.760
and there's a fair and square in
the medicine surregarden. No. The reason

2019
02:27:41.840 --> 02:27:46.520
I say you people perasa is because
you go bring that animal Hogan for no

2020
02:27:46.719 --> 02:27:54.000
reason, because I never met the
girl. Shouldar rested me, that punk

2021
02:27:54.399 --> 02:28:01.440
Bob Buckling again, No, mister
Hogan, your gentleman, Fred Blasi,

2022
02:28:01.520 --> 02:28:05.959
I'm sorry, tileman. I apologize
right out of time and right out of

2023
02:28:05.040 --> 02:28:11.600
time, out the world. Wrong, unbelievable man. Now, well,

2024
02:28:11.680 --> 02:28:13.239
Hogian does the same thing. We
takes those breaths in between. Yeah,

2025
02:28:13.280 --> 02:28:18.360
but this doesn't sound as like as
as troubling Abord. Yeah, yeah,

2026
02:28:18.440 --> 02:28:22.239
it sounds very painful. Something's going
on there. A couple of interviews,

2027
02:28:22.239 --> 02:28:24.799
Sheik was able to do Wild Champion
in Fred Lassie's book, he does us

2028
02:28:24.840 --> 02:28:30.639
the service of translating them from the
FARSI uh Chik says, I just called

2029
02:28:30.680 --> 02:28:33.760
home a couple of days ago.
I talked to Iatolahomony and I talked to

2030
02:28:33.879 --> 02:28:39.639
all the family. He talked to
Theola. I heard big celebration into Horan

2031
02:28:39.719 --> 02:28:43.639
Iran. He used to say,
Iran like orange range. Everybody happy.

2032
02:28:43.760 --> 02:28:46.239
Everybody know I deserve to get that
gold, especially I have the best manager

2033
02:28:46.280 --> 02:28:50.600
in this country, Iahtola Blassie.
I heard the Iatola Hominy, and all

2034
02:28:50.639 --> 02:28:52.319
the Iranian people, Muslim people in
America, in the Middle East, in

2035
02:28:52.440 --> 02:28:56.040
Asia, all the Muslims are happy
about me. Everybody, no intelligent people

2036
02:28:56.079 --> 02:28:58.760
went to library they read about the
chikh. I was the best. I

2037
02:28:58.920 --> 02:29:03.440
was the amateur. Now I'm the
best of professional wrestling, toughest roughest sport

2038
02:29:03.680 --> 02:29:05.639
in the world. I have to
say God blessed to my manager Iatola Blessi

2039
02:29:05.920 --> 02:29:13.920
and Iyatola Hominy. Unbelievable. So
such a such a fleeting opportunity for Kaso

2040
02:29:13.040 --> 02:29:18.760
Viziri to feel like the top guy
in the sport, and the any documentary

2041
02:29:18.760 --> 02:29:20.680
that was done in him that we've
referenced, including an interview with Brad Bluccian,

2042
02:29:22.680 --> 02:29:24.600
really caught chic. I think in
a time where he was just too

2043
02:29:24.680 --> 02:29:28.760
old to be shiky baby right,
he didn't have it in him right to

2044
02:29:28.879 --> 02:29:33.799
go totally nuts and live the gimmick. Plus he presumably was on less substances,

2045
02:29:33.879 --> 02:29:37.319
so there wasn't that element taking over
his psyche and his instincts. And

2046
02:29:37.399 --> 02:29:41.639
he's kind of calm and serene sitting
in his living room doing this interview.

2047
02:29:41.719 --> 02:29:43.639
His wife does an interview for the
for the documentary, and it really is,

2048
02:29:45.479 --> 02:29:48.120
it really is a chic that I
think is almost being forced to be

2049
02:29:48.159 --> 02:29:50.360
a little more contemplative than he ever
would have taken the time to have been

2050
02:29:50.760 --> 02:29:54.520
when he was still running hard as
you know, the Howard Stern guest era.

2051
02:29:56.200 --> 02:29:58.680
Yeah, for the man, right. So I figured, before we

2052
02:29:58.959 --> 02:30:01.879
go to him doing the honors and
see him as WWF champion for the last

2053
02:30:01.920 --> 02:30:05.079
time, and of course it was
a short, fleeting reign for the Ironsy,

2054
02:30:05.520 --> 02:30:09.840
we'll play a few clips from that
documentary that kind of crystallize how he

2055
02:30:09.959 --> 02:30:15.719
was feeling throughout the the duration of
things. Here's him talking about Bob Backland.

2056
02:30:16.040 --> 02:30:20.360
When Vince took over and made to
ww what it is today, he

2057
02:30:20.799 --> 02:30:24.600
decided that Bob was no longer to
be the champion. Bob by Krim was

2058
02:30:24.639 --> 02:30:31.959
a good champoint, but people get
tired about him. Don't see that.

2059
02:30:31.399 --> 02:30:35.559
The change, Well, the place
needed to be shaken up, and you

2060
02:30:35.639 --> 02:30:39.920
had five years of plain white milk
toast, you know, topping, great

2061
02:30:39.959 --> 02:30:46.520
wrestler, but not attraction. White
milk toast. That's Bob Backland. What

2062
02:30:46.719 --> 02:30:50.280
is plain white milk toast? I
think you try to say white bread,

2063
02:30:50.639 --> 02:30:54.600
baby face, but he said toast
instead. Well, my white milk toast

2064
02:30:54.719 --> 02:30:58.760
is actually a thing, is it
really? Yeah, it's toasted milk.

2065
02:31:00.479 --> 02:31:03.440
It's toasted in milk. Yeah,
it's a piece of toast in milk.

2066
02:31:03.719 --> 02:31:09.319
I think it's a Scandinavian thing.
I don't know. Milk toast, Okay,

2067
02:31:09.840 --> 02:31:13.799
breakfast dish is and we toasted bread
in warm milk, typically with sugar

2068
02:31:13.879 --> 02:31:18.239
and butter, salt, pepper,
paprika, cinnamon, cocoa, raisins,

2069
02:31:18.319 --> 02:31:22.280
or others may be added. In
the New England region the United States,

2070
02:31:22.319 --> 02:31:26.479
milk toast refers to toast that has
been dipped in a milk based white sauce.

2071
02:31:30.280 --> 02:31:33.520
So there you go. That's what
they head in the Northeast. Milk

2072
02:31:33.600 --> 02:31:37.680
toast, Oh my god. Of
course. Milk toast is also a term

2073
02:31:37.719 --> 02:31:41.600
when you spell at m I l
q u e, which means t o

2074
02:31:41.680 --> 02:31:43.680
a s T, which means,
you know, just plain plain Jane Vanilla

2075
02:31:43.799 --> 02:31:50.680
boring, purposely boring, okay kind
of thing. But I now so as

2076
02:31:50.719 --> 02:31:58.760
anyway, argument that milk was this
is bizarre. But maybe I'll make milk

2077
02:31:58.799 --> 02:32:01.280
toast for breakfast. It sounds good. Let me know it goes all right,

2078
02:32:01.840 --> 02:32:07.559
So she gets the win. He
knew he had the title match,

2079
02:32:07.040 --> 02:32:13.040
and he didn't know how it was
going to end his wife. But no,

2080
02:32:13.319 --> 02:32:18.319
I didn't know. Surprise miss Sir
mcvin come told me my wife didn't

2081
02:32:18.360 --> 02:32:26.920
know. A surprise every mold everybody. I was sitting in the front row

2082
02:32:28.680 --> 02:32:31.840
and they said that he won,
and he put the hand in the air,

2083
02:32:31.680 --> 02:32:39.399
and I was numb. I was
like, no way. They did

2084
02:32:39.479 --> 02:32:43.120
not tell the family wow, that
she was going to get the belt and

2085
02:32:43.159 --> 02:32:43.879
the towel is going to hit the
ring, And as we talked about,

2086
02:32:43.879 --> 02:32:54.399
I think the referee was even necessarily
clued in. She can victory Corner as

2087
02:32:54.559 --> 02:32:58.920
w w F champion. Let's go
down very much, Robert, Welcome it

2088
02:32:58.040 --> 02:33:03.360
once again to Victor Corner. This
week's special guests are the newly crowned World

2089
02:33:03.399 --> 02:33:11.120
Wrestling Federations heavyweight champion and his manager
and mentor the Ayatola blasting iron cheek all

2090
02:33:11.200 --> 02:33:15.040
the world, all the reading world. The Victory magazine wants to know what's

2091
02:33:15.079 --> 02:33:18.239
your reaction, what your thoughts are, what your feelings are? Analogy want

2092
02:33:18.280 --> 02:33:20.440
the belt and what the reaction in
Iran has been. Well, I leave

2093
02:33:20.479 --> 02:33:24.120
it to the Iranian people because I
know Iran is one of old country in

2094
02:33:24.159 --> 02:33:30.479
the Vault and they know the Iran
by two think oil and wrestling long long

2095
02:33:30.559 --> 02:33:33.639
soon ago wrestling come from Perishia.
The old one was the nuname is Iran.

2096
02:33:35.079 --> 02:33:37.479
I don't have to talk about myself
to the Iranian people. All the

2097
02:33:37.559 --> 02:33:43.479
Iranian people know the hotro Vasity Olympic
Champain, you Champain, and I've been

2098
02:33:43.559 --> 02:33:46.719
to the Bold Game. I've been
to the game. I've been to the

2099
02:33:46.840 --> 02:33:50.479
Moscow Game, I've been to the
all over. Now I'm the Vault having

2100
02:33:50.559 --> 02:33:56.840
a Champain in the United State of
America. And between the all the champain,

2101
02:33:56.000 --> 02:34:01.719
all the tough people in the Vault, a special Bob all America people

2102
02:34:01.799 --> 02:34:05.600
that been the library that read about
Iran and not about the Orange Sheik,

2103
02:34:05.879 --> 02:34:09.760
one of the toughest, roughest wrestler
in the world. That's because I have

2104
02:34:09.959 --> 02:34:13.000
that goal. I have before many
goals, but this goat is the most

2105
02:34:13.079 --> 02:34:18.680
important that all of them, because
profession wrestling is the toughestest sport in the

2106
02:34:18.760 --> 02:34:22.440
volt is an all pleasure for the
Iranian people, Muslim people, all the

2107
02:34:22.600 --> 02:34:28.239
nation in the middle is all the
Iranian people in the America. Salama lekom

2108
02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:35.079
had Matahmesham talama's lukarab Bamaayata, Hamisham, Razukara, Hamidnam no Irana, Mishus

2109
02:34:35.559 --> 02:34:43.879
Maxustati, now Cote Mari, the
orang shik, Salamleku and Masala Maleku.

2110
02:34:43.120 --> 02:34:48.159
Thank you very much. Now back
to ringside probing insights there courtesy Robert de

2111
02:34:48.200 --> 02:34:52.719
Bord in the short lived Victory Corner
segment which we heard hoging on as well

2112
02:34:52.760 --> 02:34:56.639
as that's the segment Vince says the
ominous things about nineteen eighty four and the

2113
02:34:56.760 --> 02:35:01.680
change that would be afoot. Here's
the Iron Cheek as champion. There are

2114
02:35:01.040 --> 02:35:07.799
precious few moments like this. He
wrestles Tito Santana and the Philly Spectrum Wow,

2115
02:35:07.360 --> 02:35:11.760
between beating back Lin and losing to
Hogan. It's like that that Teddy

2116
02:35:11.799 --> 02:35:16.159
Beassi title defense in the Boston Garden
in eighty eight that we have to accept

2117
02:35:16.200 --> 02:35:18.799
and come to terms with. He's
got the belt on his waist, he's

2118
02:35:18.799 --> 02:35:22.639
presented his champion, and here he
wrestles Tito Santana. Really his one shot

2119
02:35:22.440 --> 02:35:26.559
to go out there and leave with
the belt. He's definitely his. But

2120
02:35:26.639 --> 02:35:31.000
he's gonna have his hands full tonight
for the newly crowned World Wrestling Federation.

2121
02:35:31.399 --> 02:35:35.559
Have your right champion. The iron
Sheep his head makes his way down.

2122
02:35:35.760 --> 02:35:45.280
Well, here he comes, and
the band from Iran coming forth from the

2123
02:35:45.840 --> 02:35:48.799
wrestling Road area, and you can
hear the crowds. That's fun to the

2124
02:35:48.920 --> 02:36:01.319
new World Wrestling Freederation champion. Probably
Saint Kit not to bless us with a

2125
02:36:01.360 --> 02:36:07.319
co made new flag tonight. Kick
probably would have gotten ripped off in a

2126
02:36:07.440 --> 02:36:31.559
video with it crowd on it spreed
Holler at USA, then Rightley Shaw Wesley

2127
02:36:31.680 --> 02:36:37.280
timesas next contest is schedule for one
call to a one hour time limit,

2128
02:36:37.840 --> 02:36:46.440
and it is for the World Wrestling
Federation Heavyweight Championship. Introducing first according to

2129
02:36:46.639 --> 02:36:54.440
my left the challenger from Tokula,
Mexico waigh two hundred and twenty six times,

2130
02:36:56.360 --> 02:37:11.719
Taketa Santana and ladies and gentlemen,
don t heaven Iran weighing two hundred

2131
02:37:11.959 --> 02:37:26.479
fifty six pounds, the World Wrestling
Betteration Heavyweight Champion the Iron sheet and there

2132
02:37:26.680 --> 02:37:31.719
was the ring intro for the one
time that that is wild. Iron defended

2133
02:37:31.760 --> 02:37:37.200
the championship that is wild, of
course, heading into the loss January twenty

2134
02:37:37.239 --> 02:37:39.840
third, ninet eighty four to Hulk
Hogan and Madison Square Garden. Sitting down

2135
02:37:39.879 --> 02:37:45.000
for the A and E documentary,
Iron Cheek reflected on his loss of the

2136
02:37:45.079 --> 02:37:52.680
championship after such a tantalizingly short reign. My shagana to me, toultro dun,

2137
02:37:54.479 --> 02:38:00.360
who's the bed to hold? Then
this is him talking about over and

2138
02:38:00.479 --> 02:38:09.440
gunya making the proposition. I s
gotta to me cultural done? Who to

2139
02:38:09.520 --> 02:38:13.559
a hole? The burn got to
him and said, if you break hul

2140
02:38:13.639 --> 02:38:16.520
Cogan's leg, I'll give you a
one hundred grand. But I came out

2141
02:38:16.600 --> 02:38:20.760
spinning and turning twenty different directions and
got up on the apron and I pointed

2142
02:38:20.879 --> 02:38:24.000
at the sheep browk lock ability,
and I came in and ripped the shirt

2143
02:38:24.040 --> 02:38:28.200
off. It was already there.
Because I'm going through this, I'm like,

2144
02:38:28.280 --> 02:38:33.840
oh my gosh, this is gonna
be huge lightning bolt a right.

2145
02:38:33.200 --> 02:38:37.639
It had been so established the camel
clutch with the iron sheet that once he

2146
02:38:37.799 --> 02:38:45.120
put it on you nobody got out. No Matick. I knew if I

2147
02:38:45.280 --> 02:38:48.360
broke the hole the place we were
upped, and it was already over.

2148
02:38:48.399 --> 02:38:50.920
Once I got the camera clutch and
back into the turn bubble. The only

2149
02:38:50.959 --> 02:38:56.440
thing we have to do was drop
the leg on it. Understands. See

2150
02:38:56.479 --> 02:39:13.200
you get around for sure. The
fact that he had to lose the belt

2151
02:39:13.319 --> 02:39:18.680
to hold Cogan, it was like
hamorrhy gene, a blood vessel. It

2152
02:39:18.840 --> 02:39:28.920
was so painful. I'm alan and
should have had longer. I'll make him

2153
02:39:28.399 --> 02:39:33.600
to you be really be a star. We thought me. Oh, no

2154
02:39:33.760 --> 02:39:39.600
Hull Hogan to be a star without
me, No Hul Cogan to be a

2155
02:39:39.719 --> 02:39:45.559
star. Wow. Chic and the
Blasty Book contributed this. I don't know

2156
02:39:45.760 --> 02:39:48.840
about that. I know, I
know it's it's foolish, it's but what

2157
02:39:48.959 --> 02:39:52.120
he's saying is not that he was
uniquely positioned to be the guy to get

2158
02:39:52.159 --> 02:39:56.280
Hogan over, but rather, if
he had decided to take Urn's offer,

2159
02:39:56.360 --> 02:40:00.280
Hulk Cochin would not have become a
star. If it can't, I mean

2160
02:40:00.719 --> 02:40:11.799
leg I mean, here's the thing
though, I just don't understand if if

2161
02:40:11.840 --> 02:40:16.360
someone's gonna break my leg, even
if I'm in a wrestling match, I

2162
02:40:16.479 --> 02:40:18.600
feel someone like going a little too
far. I mean, I'm fucking getting

2163
02:40:18.639 --> 02:40:20.959
out of there. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't mean you can pull it

2164
02:40:20.000 --> 02:40:22.600
off, right, I guess,
I guess it doesn't. But I mean

2165
02:40:24.559 --> 02:40:26.239
it doesn't mean she could do it. Yeah, it doesn't mean right right,

2166
02:40:26.440 --> 02:40:30.879
like you know, I mean,
because she knew how to win an

2167
02:40:30.879 --> 02:40:33.040
amateur wrestling match, doesn't mean he
knows how to break anything right. Also,

2168
02:40:33.200 --> 02:40:37.680
it doesn't mean yes, he's he's
strong and and you know he has

2169
02:40:37.719 --> 02:40:43.840
that amateur background, but it doesn't
mean he can out you know, Hogan's

2170
02:40:43.879 --> 02:40:50.760
still taller, bigger, and I
you know, and I just don't think,

2171
02:40:52.399 --> 02:40:56.959
you know, the only way he
could have done that would have been

2172
02:40:56.200 --> 02:41:01.159
in a move like like the coke, like the the Boston Crab when he

2173
02:41:01.200 --> 02:41:07.079
had when he's in there, Because
besides that, there's no way he could

2174
02:41:07.799 --> 02:41:13.799
he could find a way to do
it that isn't completely obvious. I think

2175
02:41:13.879 --> 02:41:16.680
obvious in a way that Hogan could
prevent it. You mean, exactly,

2176
02:41:16.200 --> 02:41:20.520
He's gonna fucking walk away and just
say fuck this. That's kind of a

2177
02:41:20.559 --> 02:41:24.840
fantasy, isn't it. But what
he could do is probably Pinhogan, you

2178
02:41:24.959 --> 02:41:26.920
know, and tie him up in
a way that he couldn't kick out.

2179
02:41:28.120 --> 02:41:33.159
That could happen. It's happened before, brother, exactly. No, woul

2180
02:41:33.479 --> 02:41:37.520
no, it never happened before.
Brother. We're you talking about what Well,

2181
02:41:37.559 --> 02:41:39.639
we'll get more to the leg break
here in just a moment. But

2182
02:41:39.840 --> 02:41:43.319
uh encapsulated the dynamic was Chic and
Blasty's book contributing this passage. There was

2183
02:41:43.360 --> 02:41:46.319
an arounding newspaper in Los Angeles that
put my picture on the cover with a

2184
02:41:46.360 --> 02:41:50.559
belt in the eyetola, Fred Blassie. I showed the newspaper on TV and

2185
02:41:50.600 --> 02:41:54.079
everybody. I told everybody it was
the newspaper from toront Iran, and I

2186
02:41:54.159 --> 02:41:56.520
said that if no American can stop
me, I'm going to take the belt

2187
02:41:56.559 --> 02:41:58.680
with me back to the Middle East. I had the most heat and word

2188
02:41:58.719 --> 02:42:01.719
wresting Federation history. Somebody called the
office and said, if the she comes

2189
02:42:01.719 --> 02:42:03.600
to Albany, New York, we're
going to shoot him. And Vince Senior,

2190
02:42:03.639 --> 02:42:05.520
God bless him, said I want
you to cancel. Don't worry.

2191
02:42:05.559 --> 02:42:09.239
I take care of you money wise, so I did what mister McMahon told

2192
02:42:09.239 --> 02:42:11.680
me. I knew I was supposed
to lose the championship to Hull Cogan on

2193
02:42:11.719 --> 02:42:13.479
juney twenty third, nineteen eighty four. But then Vern Gunna called me and

2194
02:42:13.479 --> 02:42:16.159
said, give me a favor.
Don't drop the belt to that Hollywood bleached

2195
02:42:16.200 --> 02:42:20.239
blonde GRABBRONI hel Cogin. I'm sure
that's exactly how Vern put it. By

2196
02:42:20.280 --> 02:42:24.399
the way, when you wrestle him, break his leg, take the belt,

2197
02:42:24.639 --> 02:42:26.840
then come back to me in Minnesota. Remember you, dumb flam a

2198
02:42:28.000 --> 02:42:30.920
bench. I was your coach.
I'll give you one hundred thousand dollars.

2199
02:42:30.959 --> 02:42:33.600
We'll book you a lower our territory
as the real champion, I said,

2200
02:42:33.639 --> 02:42:35.760
coach, I'll let you know after
twenty four hours. But mcmahonn Senior was

2201
02:42:35.840 --> 02:42:39.479
very good to me, and I
believe in the Islamic religion and I cannot

2202
02:42:39.479 --> 02:42:41.280
cut the hand that feeds me.
Maybe one hour before my match with Hogan,

2203
02:42:41.319 --> 02:42:45.200
I take mister McMahon Senior and Junior
in the private locker room of Madison

2204
02:42:45.239 --> 02:42:48.319
Square Garden and explain everything, and
they both kiss and hug me and then

2205
02:42:48.319 --> 02:42:50.040
told me she you good. Man, I went into the ring and had

2206
02:42:50.040 --> 02:42:52.719
a fast match. When you lose
a championship in a fast match, you

2207
02:42:52.719 --> 02:42:56.319
can still keep your heat. People
think it was just an accident. After

2208
02:42:56.360 --> 02:42:58.799
the match was oh, but that's
now you get your ass beat son.

2209
02:43:00.239 --> 02:43:01.959
Yeah. After the match was over, the McMahons were very happy. Vince

2210
02:43:03.000 --> 02:43:05.799
Senior hugged me again and said good
match. Then Hogan shakes my hand and

2211
02:43:05.840 --> 02:43:07.280
said, thank you very much.
I owe you one. But then he

2212
02:43:07.360 --> 02:43:11.239
forgot that he owes me something.
But no problem. I did not double

2213
02:43:11.280 --> 02:43:16.280
cross the company anything. Now what
did he o? You? Like?

2214
02:43:16.360 --> 02:43:18.280
What? He would the old do
a job in WCW when everyone was getting

2215
02:43:18.319 --> 02:43:22.440
a money to do nothing. After
Hogan came in in ninety four, I

2216
02:43:22.479 --> 02:43:26.079
was gonna do fucking He either drop
the belt back to you like in a

2217
02:43:26.159 --> 02:43:30.399
month, like what? What's what? What is? The reason he started

2218
02:43:30.440 --> 02:43:33.200
saying that was because Hogan didn't answer
his phone calls when he was looking for

2219
02:43:33.319 --> 02:43:39.399
job in WW. That's why he
started going nuts on Hogan. So I

2220
02:43:39.399 --> 02:43:41.680
don't know. I mean, you
know, fucking there's a spot in the

2221
02:43:41.760 --> 02:43:45.239
card for Landy Pofo. There's a
spot in the card for you know,

2222
02:43:45.520 --> 02:43:50.559
just any hang around al Green for
Christ's sakes, anybody, and he thought

2223
02:43:50.600 --> 02:43:52.680
he could have he should have been
he should be collecting. Of course he

2224
02:43:52.840 --> 02:43:58.840
was fucking bombed on crack, but
that wasn't necessarily a disqualifier at that era.

2225
02:44:00.120 --> 02:44:03.799
Wcwe there. So what exactly you
said, Crook? He was there?

2226
02:44:05.639 --> 02:44:11.159
Huh? Host issues who? Then
Senior opened the curtain for Hulkgan as

2227
02:44:11.159 --> 02:44:13.799
he left the dressing room to win
the title from the Iron Cheek. It

2228
02:44:13.920 --> 02:44:16.000
may have been the old Man's last
official act. Less than four months after

2229
02:44:16.079 --> 02:44:18.680
the match, he died. He
got to see the beginning of hull Comania,

2230
02:44:18.719 --> 02:44:22.200
but never lived to witness everything his
son did to change the business.

2231
02:44:22.280 --> 02:44:26.040
This is now. I think Blassie
talking. Vince Junior likes to say that

2232
02:44:26.159 --> 02:44:28.360
if his father knew what the company
would become, he'd turnover in his grave.

2233
02:44:28.600 --> 02:44:31.799
But I think that the old Man
would have also been pleased that Vince

2234
02:44:31.799 --> 02:44:35.159
became the greatest promoter of all time. With the names coming into the World

2235
02:44:35.159 --> 02:44:37.840
Wrestling Federation Paul Mister Wonderful Loorndorf,
the Junkyard Dog, Reignhammer, Valentine,

2236
02:44:37.879 --> 02:44:41.440
Johnny's Sun, but a hell of
a lot nicer, Vince had an all

2237
02:44:41.479 --> 02:44:43.520
star team. The difference between him
and the other promoters was that he understood

2238
02:44:43.680 --> 02:44:46.120
what to do with it. For
example, he knew that the Iron Cheek

2239
02:44:46.120 --> 02:44:48.680
and Sergeant Slaughter had trained for the
business together and were good friends. That

2240
02:44:48.840 --> 02:44:52.040
meant that if they got into the
ring, they'd trust each other and put

2241
02:44:52.079 --> 02:44:54.600
on a great show. At the
time, though Slaughter was a heel playing

2242
02:44:54.600 --> 02:44:56.680
a psychotic former drill instructor, Vince
looked at the situation, made a few

2243
02:44:56.680 --> 02:45:01.000
alterations and came up with a feud
so emotional that it was able to headline

2244
02:45:01.000 --> 02:45:07.120
Madison Square Garden even when Hogan wasn't
around. So that is the perspective from

2245
02:45:07.200 --> 02:45:11.520
Fred Blastie's book The leg Break Story. Okay, it would be one thing

2246
02:45:11.600 --> 02:45:13.520
if everyone stuck to their story and
there were contradictions. But the problem is

2247
02:45:13.600 --> 02:45:18.200
there's contradictions within the same person's telling
of the story. We've heard several times

2248
02:45:18.280 --> 02:45:22.159
now. Hulk Hogan just represents straight
up that the story is the truth,

2249
02:45:22.239 --> 02:45:24.639
including in that clip for me,
and he mentioned it in his book,

2250
02:45:24.719 --> 02:45:26.760
mentions it in interviews. Let's go
to what he told Chris Jericho about it.

2251
02:45:31.319 --> 02:45:35.200
It's true Iron Sheet broke in with
Vern yeah, and so he calls

2252
02:45:35.239 --> 02:45:39.200
iron sheet on the backside and you
know, getting the Sheik's intellectual brain and

2253
02:45:39.319 --> 02:45:43.520
tells the Sheek how mad he's getting
screwed over and just be bottling for the

2254
02:45:43.559 --> 02:45:46.760
belt. He should keep the ball
for two or three, four five years,

2255
02:45:46.879 --> 02:45:50.200
just like Batlan did, and he
shouldn't drop it to this guy that's

2256
02:45:50.239 --> 02:45:52.319
not a real athlete, that he's
not a real wrestler, and he'll just

2257
02:45:52.399 --> 02:45:56.719
break his leg. This sky will
go away, and you know, they

2258
02:45:56.760 --> 02:45:58.959
won't have any choice but to keep
the belt on you. What are they

2259
02:45:58.959 --> 02:46:01.200
going to do break Hole Cogan's leg, you don't keep the belt on you.

2260
02:46:01.879 --> 02:46:03.799
You know, let's shoot, it's
all work. We're it'll work.

2261
02:46:05.000 --> 02:46:11.040
Yeah, So sink thank God had
enough conscience of mind to tell Vince about

2262
02:46:11.079 --> 02:46:15.079
it, you know, because he
you know, I guess he wanted to

2263
02:46:15.120 --> 02:46:16.120
work in New York more and he's
wanted to go back to work for vern

2264
02:46:16.200 --> 02:46:20.360
of course, and so you know
that was a true story vern Off,

2265
02:46:22.559 --> 02:46:26.159
which wouldn't be the first time.
It wouldn't be the first time I had

2266
02:46:26.239 --> 02:46:30.920
my leg bro interesting stuff. So
it's kind of weird. He says,

2267
02:46:31.559 --> 02:46:33.719
they're not gonna take the belt off. You if you break holl Cogan's leg,

2268
02:46:33.799 --> 02:46:35.440
that's a way to extend your title
run. Yeah, Yet at the

2269
02:46:35.440 --> 02:46:39.680
same time, he's talking about how
he didn't want to go back to Minneapolis.

2270
02:46:39.879 --> 02:46:43.159
So I don't get this part of
the story where she goes back to

2271
02:46:43.239 --> 02:46:46.520
Minneapolis. If he's going to do
this because he wants to extend his WWF

2272
02:46:46.559 --> 02:46:50.000
title run, He's not going anywhere
if he's the champion, right, So

2273
02:46:50.120 --> 02:46:52.600
that kind of that kind of falls
apart a little bit unless he goes back

2274
02:46:52.719 --> 02:46:58.280
with the belt. Well, yeah, I guess. I guess he'll consider

2275
02:46:58.479 --> 02:47:01.399
himself the champion even if they strip
him, pulls a flare, and he

2276
02:47:01.520 --> 02:47:03.920
takes the strap with him to Minneapolis. Yeah, well it didn't happen.

2277
02:47:05.159 --> 02:47:07.440
And you know what else didn't happen. Hull Cogan repeating the same story over

2278
02:47:07.440 --> 02:47:09.920
again. It's true, it's true. He just told Chris Jericho that know,

2279
02:47:11.000 --> 02:47:13.760
in certain terms here he is.
When he did the Voice Versus talk

2280
02:47:13.799 --> 02:47:16.680
show with Michael Schavello, he's the
one that said he was. I mean,

2281
02:47:16.760 --> 02:47:20.760
he said vern Gany because when I
was in the AWA in Minnesota,

2282
02:47:22.200 --> 02:47:24.680
there's been a tugger war with Vernon
I and when Vince McMahon came, Vince

2283
02:47:24.760 --> 02:47:30.200
Junior flew into Minnesota. We talked
and we made a deal. About four

2284
02:47:30.280 --> 02:47:31.959
or five in the morning. We
shook hands and I was going to go

2285
02:47:31.040 --> 02:47:35.479
back to New York and tear the
place down, you know, And when

2286
02:47:35.520 --> 02:47:39.120
I left, vere Ghani was very
upset. No one's ever done this in

2287
02:47:39.200 --> 02:47:43.440
the wrestling business. No one's ever
just walked out, which isn't true.

2288
02:47:43.079 --> 02:47:46.040
But vern Gania goes, oh my
gosh, no one's ever done this,

2289
02:47:46.200 --> 02:47:52.760
And so the sheet tells us after
the match, after it's all over,

2290
02:47:52.440 --> 02:47:56.799
you know, when everything is done, you know that vere Gany had offered

2291
02:47:56.840 --> 02:48:01.639
him one hundred thousand dollars to break
my leg. But that's the story from

2292
02:48:01.680 --> 02:48:03.319
the Sheik. So whether it's true
or not, I don't know. It's

2293
02:48:03.360 --> 02:48:09.440
the Sheik story. So now he
doesn't know if it's true or not.

2294
02:48:09.600 --> 02:48:15.680
Well, I mean, brother,
I'll tell you it was true at the

2295
02:48:15.719 --> 02:48:18.799
time, dude, Right, it's
true at the time. But you know,

2296
02:48:20.040 --> 02:48:31.120
sometimes you learn new layers of truth, and I guess case clothes then

2297
02:48:31.239 --> 02:48:35.840
yeah, you learn the new layers
of truth, right, right, Hulk

2298
02:48:39.479 --> 02:48:48.559
brother, what is Greg Gadna think
talking to sports Kidia podcast of course,

2299
02:48:48.600 --> 02:48:52.000
the Son of Erne and when words
started trickling out there that you know she

2300
02:48:52.280 --> 02:48:56.159
was telling this story. Uh,
this is what Greg had to say when

2301
02:48:56.159 --> 02:48:58.319
he found out about it. Now
you want to talk about prevarication, you

2302
02:48:58.360 --> 02:49:01.200
want to talk about trying to have
it both ways. I'm ready for this.

2303
02:49:01.360 --> 02:49:03.719
I don't need to play two different
great guy and he interviews to get

2304
02:49:03.719 --> 02:49:07.040
two different stories. I just need
to play one a couple more for you

2305
02:49:07.200 --> 02:49:11.760
real quick. Is there any truth
to the fact that Vern got Outford a

2306
02:49:11.920 --> 02:49:18.079
hundred thousand dollars to the Iron Sheet
to bring No Chic made that thing up

2307
02:49:18.159 --> 02:49:20.040
there? He said, I heard
it. I don't know, a couple

2308
02:49:20.079 --> 02:49:22.319
of months ago. My brother and
I were watching, So you got to

2309
02:49:22.319 --> 02:49:26.840
watch this thing on YouTube. I
never know he said it. Somebody had

2310
02:49:26.879 --> 02:49:30.799
told me and I said, that
was never said. Vern never did that.

2311
02:49:31.159 --> 02:49:37.559
Yeah, Iron Chic he you know, he trained with us and Verne

2312
02:49:37.600 --> 02:49:43.159
got him started. Verne supported him
through the Olympics and everything, and he

2313
02:49:43.440 --> 02:49:52.040
was he was so naive to the
sport that it was. It was it

2314
02:49:52.200 --> 02:49:56.600
was, he wasn't catching on.
My mom gave him the name the Iron

2315
02:49:56.680 --> 02:50:05.319
Cheek. Oh nice. Yeah,
and then the Iranian thing was going on,

2316
02:50:05.479 --> 02:50:07.559
and Vince wanted summery and Verne sent
him up there, and you know,

2317
02:50:07.840 --> 02:50:11.520
his style up there would work.
It wasn't working in the a w

2318
02:50:11.680 --> 02:50:15.440
A because he couldn't work very good. It was different than a board.

2319
02:50:15.799 --> 02:50:20.799
Yeah, and he started he's swinging
those person clubs though. He was phenomenal

2320
02:50:20.879 --> 02:50:26.200
with those. But you know,
he got himself. He never would drink,

2321
02:50:26.239 --> 02:50:30.559
and all of a sudden he's drinking
and he's doing the drugs and he

2322
02:50:31.079 --> 02:50:33.639
with that. I mean, we
couldn't do it. He was phenomenal with

2323
02:50:33.719 --> 02:50:37.479
that. I was unbelievably in shape. He was, and he was a

2324
02:50:37.520 --> 02:50:43.159
great amateur wrestler. His style didn't
work in the a w A, but

2325
02:50:43.239 --> 02:50:48.079
it worked very well for him in
New York. Yeah, I've heard that

2326
02:50:48.639 --> 02:50:52.639
people have asked me that, and
I was unless Verne put him in the

2327
02:50:52.719 --> 02:50:56.559
back room somewhere and said. I
never heard vern say that. He never

2328
02:50:56.639 --> 02:51:01.239
told any of us that I asked
him, you know, but he was

2329
02:51:01.360 --> 02:51:03.760
in the dementia stages, so I
don't know if you would remember, but

2330
02:51:03.840 --> 02:51:11.479
he said no. Yeah, interesting
little qualifier at the end there. And

2331
02:51:11.520 --> 02:51:15.879
I'll tell you I ever, I
tell you too that actually I had that.

2332
02:51:16.079 --> 02:51:20.559
We actually originally thought of that.
We actually created the w WE before

2333
02:51:20.600 --> 02:51:24.120
they did. Yeah, this is
the We were the first of the Montreal

2334
02:51:24.159 --> 02:51:26.399
Double Cross, first ones. Well
tell you that we were the first ones

2335
02:51:26.479 --> 02:51:31.399
to come up with the wars.
The entertainment like that was our We did

2336
02:51:31.440 --> 02:51:33.639
sports entertainment before anybody else did.
Yeah, we're going to rename it a

2337
02:51:35.040 --> 02:51:41.760
e A right Actors Equity Association,
right exactly, So very strange at the

2338
02:51:41.879 --> 02:51:45.559
very end, he had to say
he never told me that. Yeah,

2339
02:51:46.000 --> 02:51:48.520
well you know him in a back
room somewhere, you know, Vern,

2340
02:51:48.719 --> 02:51:52.360
Vern didn't tell me that. Well, he's your dad. Yeah, Vern

2341
02:51:52.440 --> 02:51:56.920
didn't tell me that, mister Gagney
never told me, right exactly. I'm

2342
02:51:56.959 --> 02:52:03.399
telling you right now, you never
call me dad. You gotta earn dad.

2343
02:52:03.479 --> 02:52:11.559
Privileges chic. How are you cheek
all bust of us? Stuck gone

2344
02:52:11.600 --> 02:52:16.319
yon blah blah. Uh. Listen, I'll tell you what I got a

2345
02:52:16.360 --> 02:52:20.120
proposal for you. You know,
I think it's a it's a beneficial thing

2346
02:52:20.200 --> 02:52:24.360
for both of us. What I'm
going to do is, I'm going to

2347
02:52:24.440 --> 02:52:33.559
offer you a million dollars dollars,
okay, a million dollars to break Hulk

2348
02:52:33.639 --> 02:52:39.399
Hogan's leg in that championship match.
A million dollars, one hundred thousand,

2349
02:52:41.040 --> 02:52:46.239
but I'm going to keep ninety percent
of it. That's good. I will

2350
02:52:46.319 --> 02:52:56.319
offer you six hundred million dollars,
but I will keep five hundred ninety nine

2351
02:52:56.440 --> 02:53:01.479
million, nine hundred nine nine thousand
or niney nine. So you'd be the

2352
02:53:01.559 --> 02:53:05.879
judge. You tell me, You
tell me why. It seems like Greg

2353
02:53:05.959 --> 02:53:07.719
had to add that at the end
there about how Vernon never told it.

2354
02:53:07.959 --> 02:53:11.000
I mean, what do you think
do you think do you think Vernon would

2355
02:53:11.079 --> 02:53:18.719
do that? I think I think
he would. I don't think he would

2356
02:53:18.799 --> 02:53:20.959
say it directly. I think there
might be a way to get get that

2357
02:53:22.239 --> 02:53:26.600
message to I'll say, you know, you know, you know, first

2358
02:53:26.639 --> 02:53:35.319
of all, I want to say
congratulations a mean champion they're cause cause really

2359
02:53:35.719 --> 02:53:39.639
you know, it's well earned,
you know, and well deserved. And

2360
02:53:39.760 --> 02:53:43.200
I'll tell you you know, I
know you're going in there with Hogan and

2361
02:53:43.639 --> 02:53:48.239
uh, I just want to say, you know, it'd be a shame,

2362
02:53:48.879 --> 02:53:52.440
it'd be a if some of them
were to happen, although maybe it

2363
02:53:52.440 --> 02:53:58.319
wouldn't be a shame really because you'd
keep that belt, you know, isn't

2364
02:53:58.360 --> 02:54:03.200
that right? He married a nice
Minnesota woman. You know, if something

2365
02:54:03.239 --> 02:54:07.680
happened to Hogan and then all of
a sudden, you know, you came

2366
02:54:09.680 --> 02:54:13.399
in Minneapolis with the belt, that
would have been that'd be something, wouldn't

2367
02:54:13.399 --> 02:54:18.559
it. You know what would Junior
say about that? See? See she

2368
02:54:18.799 --> 02:54:24.840
did the time honored thing, Brett
Hart, wouldn't That's right? Unbelievable.

2369
02:54:26.079 --> 02:54:28.319
Well, it's time for the match. What do you say? I'm ready?

2370
02:54:28.639 --> 02:54:33.959
First we go to Jean with Ayatola
Freddy blast in the head dress test

2371
02:54:33.000 --> 02:54:37.200
of his career just moments away,
and you played the whole interview, which

2372
02:54:37.239 --> 02:54:39.879
is great. In other words,
they pulled a ninety six er on us.

2373
02:54:41.159 --> 02:54:41.799
Last said, if you know what
that means? To tell me?

2374
02:54:43.360 --> 02:54:46.000
Yeah, I don't know what the
fucking ninety six or is it has something

2375
02:54:46.079 --> 02:54:50.319
to do with like my mom the
old ninety six er. It says here

2376
02:54:50.440 --> 02:54:52.719
it is an obscene cut of beef
delivered to your table with a challenge one

2377
02:54:52.760 --> 02:54:56.319
person finished sitting. The whole table
eats for free. So it's like a

2378
02:54:58.200 --> 02:55:01.799
oh great, we we have this
chance for the whole table to eat for

2379
02:55:01.879 --> 02:55:03.959
free. But no one's ever gonna
eat the whole thing. I think it

2380
02:55:03.040 --> 02:55:07.440
was dramatized in the John Candy movie
The Great Outdoors. Oh okay, he

2381
02:55:07.479 --> 02:55:13.000
gets brought this huge steak and everyone
everyone cheers on him to eat the whole

2382
02:55:13.079 --> 02:55:15.479
thing so that the whole table can
eat free. But the whole trick is

2383
02:55:15.520 --> 02:55:18.319
no one ever finishes it, so
everyone always ends up pain. Okay,

2384
02:55:18.440 --> 02:55:26.200
So I guess that's what he means. So aren' cheek with the title and

2385
02:55:26.680 --> 02:55:33.879
a red cafe on his head?
And uh, here he comes. They

2386
02:55:33.959 --> 02:55:37.159
dissolved the chic already in the ring
after that promo, So not only does

2387
02:55:37.200 --> 02:55:41.239
it come out first, he's already
in the ring transports as if a fair

2388
02:55:41.360 --> 02:55:46.479
deal monsoon. The fact that the
champion doesn't even get the respect of being

2389
02:55:46.920 --> 02:55:52.399
of being shown the entryway, come
on, I agree, this is Yeah,

2390
02:55:52.440 --> 02:55:56.639
the stack is stacked. I mean, we know it's rigged in favor

2391
02:55:56.719 --> 02:56:00.959
of all cooked. We all know
wrestling's fake to begin with, but come

2392
02:56:01.040 --> 02:56:03.319
on, does the champion have to
come out first and not even be given

2393
02:56:03.680 --> 02:56:09.760
the respect of what being viewed walking
to the ring. You have to make

2394
02:56:09.799 --> 02:56:13.920
it that clear that you're that this
is going to be Hogan's night, that

2395
02:56:13.040 --> 02:56:16.639
you don't even pay attention to the
details of the champion should be entering.

2396
02:56:16.760 --> 02:56:24.319
Second, I believe what we have
here is a conspiracy against the Iron Chic,

2397
02:56:24.040 --> 02:56:30.239
the current WWE champion. And I
think the fact that we uh that

2398
02:56:30.360 --> 02:56:33.879
this is happening, that we need
to have a third party candidate in the

2399
02:56:35.120 --> 02:56:39.520
ww presidency because look, there's no
secret that American foreign policy for decades has

2400
02:56:39.559 --> 02:56:46.719
been to use covert CIA operations to
unseat democratically elected governments in Iran. As

2401
02:56:46.799 --> 02:56:52.959
a former Navy seal, I believe
that as a report Reform Party candidate,

2402
02:56:54.520 --> 02:57:05.319
I should be the next president of
the WWE. Anything Awesome on Soon says

2403
02:57:05.360 --> 02:57:07.879
it all. He says of Iron
Sheek, He'll have his hands full tonight.

2404
02:57:07.959 --> 02:57:11.799
His whole Comdia has got a crazy
here in New York. Dean the

2405
02:57:11.879 --> 02:57:16.600
number one contender for the World Wrestling
Federation. And there it is. We'll

2406
02:57:16.680 --> 02:57:20.079
never forget this cut away to Hogan. Oh yeah, and here, listen,

2407
02:57:20.200 --> 02:57:22.559
I got this whole thing ready for
you. Is there anything you got

2408
02:57:22.600 --> 02:57:24.760
to say before I play this?
Well, you know, he's almost in

2409
02:57:24.840 --> 02:57:28.559
prayer backstage looking down. Read American
Maid T shirt on It's this American Maid

2410
02:57:28.600 --> 02:57:33.520
in white letters, he's pacing in
place and the music hits there he is,

2411
02:57:35.680 --> 02:57:43.920
oh, comedia, Oh, I
mean let me do business up ready

2412
02:57:45.000 --> 02:57:52.399
for like this thing on fire?
He isn't ormish, the father on her

2413
02:57:52.479 --> 02:58:13.719
feet panteumonia, he work harder and
senior himself holding the curtin I have another.

2414
02:58:15.520 --> 02:58:20.239
And h Arnold Scolan's back there too, Bob Becklan's manager. It's weird,

2415
02:58:20.280 --> 02:58:22.440
as in the Observer that Skulling had
been let go in the end of

2416
02:58:22.479 --> 02:58:26.399
eighty three. But there he is. Wow, it's weird, and he

2417
02:58:26.479 --> 02:58:30.719
comes fired out does the holster,
pointing at the balcony everything you He's enormous.

2418
02:58:31.280 --> 02:58:33.799
I mean you gotta understand, like
you can feel it. This is

2419
02:58:35.000 --> 02:58:43.520
it's absolutely absurd, how how loud
these fans are, and the way how

2420
02:58:43.600 --> 02:58:48.920
hungry they are ye yep, like
they need this. The way it comes

2421
02:58:48.959 --> 02:58:52.520
together so suddenly and so intensely,
it's almost like it's almost like when an

2422
02:58:52.600 --> 02:58:56.879
underdog starts like excelling in the playoffs. It's like, right, oh my

2423
02:58:56.959 --> 02:58:58.959
god, this is going to be
the season that these guys. Is this

2424
02:58:58.079 --> 02:59:01.479
really the team right that's going to
win it all? And Hogan having just

2425
02:59:01.520 --> 02:59:07.280
showed up in WWF in December twenty
third December twenty seventh to tape a show

2426
02:59:07.319 --> 02:59:09.959
that didn't hear until the first of
January in a market that not everybody even

2427
02:59:09.959 --> 02:59:15.399
saw the show. So he's like
two weeks old to most people watching WWAF

2428
02:59:15.440 --> 02:59:18.680
at the time, it's about to
blow through the doors and just take the

2429
02:59:18.719 --> 02:59:20.360
ballot. Who he was, like, I mean he was, yeah,

2430
02:59:22.120 --> 02:59:24.719
he was obviously well known, like
people you know, oh yeah, no,

2431
02:59:26.000 --> 02:59:28.040
And yeah, that's not to say
he didn't get a huge response,

2432
02:59:28.079 --> 02:59:31.559
but it's almost like the guy's really
going to take the WAF title this fast,

2433
02:59:31.840 --> 02:59:33.159
you know what I mean, that's
what the shaka is. It's yeah,

2434
02:59:33.399 --> 02:59:35.399
right, it's not getting to know
him, it's that they're really going

2435
02:59:35.479 --> 02:59:39.079
to put the strap on him this
quickly. Because people still didn't know that

2436
02:59:39.159 --> 02:59:43.000
Vince Junior had taking control that that
you know, Vince Senior was just kind

2437
02:59:43.040 --> 02:59:46.799
of there in a ceremonial role.
You see him open the curtain for Hogan

2438
02:59:46.840 --> 02:59:48.319
as he comes out, and by
the last time we saw Vince Senior on

2439
02:59:48.399 --> 02:59:52.559
TV, I'm almost certain of it. And that's so fucking poetic. I

2440
02:59:52.600 --> 02:59:56.319
can't even begin to talk about that. As Vince Senior died in May of

2441
02:59:56.399 --> 03:00:01.159
nineteen eighty four. Absolutely, like
Jesus, you know, he's he's literally

2442
03:00:01.879 --> 03:00:05.399
he's opening the door, leaving Vincentior
the past and he's yeah, yep,

2443
03:00:05.879 --> 03:00:07.479
and the review and he's opening the
door to the future. It's absolutely the

2444
03:00:07.559 --> 03:00:15.319
case. And uh, you know
he just anyone can stick it up their

2445
03:00:15.360 --> 03:00:18.319
ass who suggests that the best way
to do it is to get the guy

2446
03:00:18.360 --> 03:00:20.680
to come in red hot and win
the belt. That's what Cody should have

2447
03:00:20.760 --> 03:00:24.840
done, you know, the fucking
formula. Don't pretend that is not exactly

2448
03:00:24.920 --> 03:00:26.280
what they did with the Hult that
it's exactly what you do when you really

2449
03:00:26.360 --> 03:00:28.840
mean it, when you try to
push somebody as the top guy. And

2450
03:00:28.920 --> 03:00:31.360
if you do anything less than that, we know that you don't really mean

2451
03:00:31.399 --> 03:00:35.559
it. Yep. So here he
comes, hits the ring pointing to the

2452
03:00:35.600 --> 03:00:39.159
Balcony's up on the apron I or
the Tiger. As he enters the square

2453
03:00:39.239 --> 03:00:41.799
circle, rips the shirt off,
bright yellow trunks, signaling with the crowd.

2454
03:00:43.239 --> 03:00:46.319
Chic throws and up yours to the
audience. Does thing, introduces Blassie

2455
03:00:46.319 --> 03:00:50.600
and the main event one hour time
limit thenis beach And when they say that

2456
03:00:50.680 --> 03:00:54.840
they explode. Listen to this.
Listen to this, introducing first a good

2457
03:00:54.959 --> 03:01:18.079
charger from Venas Peaks, California.
Why are you bringing the bell so many

2458
03:01:18.120 --> 03:01:26.479
fucking times? Incredible? You there
will never be a time ever again that

2459
03:01:26.840 --> 03:01:35.760
wrestling fans are that hungry for something. Yeah, someone, It's just never

2460
03:01:35.799 --> 03:01:43.319
gonna happen again. Like that.
Truly phenomenal, It really all it's set

2461
03:01:43.360 --> 03:01:46.639
in motion. It's it's almost too
much to bear the significance of it for

2462
03:01:46.760 --> 03:01:52.000
the business. Hogan signaling the strap
around his waist, pointing around his opponent

2463
03:01:52.040 --> 03:01:54.680
two fifty eight to run to a
cord a chorus of Booze Tehran. They

2464
03:01:54.719 --> 03:02:00.479
say the iron sheet, you know
anyone else is like also kind of poetic

2465
03:02:00.719 --> 03:02:07.520
too. What's that about this match? Is that Hogan is facing a Fred

2466
03:02:07.600 --> 03:02:11.840
Blassie protege? Wow? Yeah,
they an make a hey about that.

2467
03:02:13.520 --> 03:02:16.079
No, well you wouldn't want to
because you don't want to bring up Hogan

2468
03:02:16.120 --> 03:02:18.399
being there in the in the past. That's true, you know. Otherwise

2469
03:02:18.559 --> 03:02:24.000
you know the Andre thing doesn't mean
anything great point, but you know,

2470
03:02:24.360 --> 03:02:28.120
as people who did know it is, it is poetic sign Chic is a

2471
03:02:28.200 --> 03:02:33.719
freak and there's many USA flags waving
all around the place. Hogan's slapping hands,

2472
03:02:33.760 --> 03:02:37.520
He's ready, Yeah, here we
go. The Iron Cheek defends the

2473
03:02:37.559 --> 03:02:41.840
World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Championship against Hulk
Hogan January twenty third, nineteen eighty four,

2474
03:02:41.159 --> 03:02:46.719
Madison Square Garden, Chic pacing still
in his robe as Hogan rocking back

2475
03:02:46.760 --> 03:02:52.319
and forth and uh ready to lock
up and he slugs him from behind,

2476
03:02:52.479 --> 03:02:56.239
does the Iron Cheek Hogan? Oh
sorry, Hog? Oh Hogan, Yeah,

2477
03:02:56.280 --> 03:02:58.559
Hogan, Pearl Harbor is the chic
he does. He's so rare to

2478
03:02:58.639 --> 03:03:03.079
go for it. The fans go
nuts for it. Crowd wants a guy

2479
03:03:03.200 --> 03:03:07.239
who can't wait to bust out of
the gates like a bull. And he

2480
03:03:07.360 --> 03:03:09.559
goes off on the sheek as he's
trying to take his robe off, goes

2481
03:03:09.600 --> 03:03:11.239
off chomping at the bit. And
that's the thing about this Hogan, that's

2482
03:03:11.239 --> 03:03:15.719
the thing about the Hogan that captured
the imagination. He wasn't a cartoon character

2483
03:03:15.879 --> 03:03:20.399
with with foolish, you know,
kind of corny looking matches. He was

2484
03:03:20.920 --> 03:03:24.520
an ass kicker, right he was. Heel does what he just did to

2485
03:03:24.639 --> 03:03:28.040
Chic. He was he was a
you know, he was an eighty style

2486
03:03:28.159 --> 03:03:31.920
ass kicker. You know where it
was. It was big and and and

2487
03:03:33.280 --> 03:03:35.479
and bombastic. But you know he's
still doing stuff. I mean, look

2488
03:03:35.479 --> 03:03:39.319
at the whole the whole first part
of it is him doing that. I've

2489
03:03:39.399 --> 03:03:43.200
never seen this whole match before.
Now this was it. This is the

2490
03:03:43.239 --> 03:03:46.360
first time I watched this whole match. Yeah, I've obviously seen that finish

2491
03:03:46.360 --> 03:03:52.040
about a gazillion times, but you
know he not only attacks Chik from behind,

2492
03:03:52.760 --> 03:03:56.799
but he also clothesline Cheek with his
own jacket. Wow. And they

2493
03:03:56.920 --> 03:04:01.280
love it. They love that a
guy is coming out there turning the tides

2494
03:04:01.360 --> 03:04:05.440
by using heel tactics against the heel. That's always what they've loved to suggest

2495
03:04:05.479 --> 03:04:09.840
that Steve Austin is this huge departure
from Hulk Cogan is such bullshit. I

2496
03:04:09.879 --> 03:04:13.879
mean it's it's it's the same thing, but just jacked up. Yeah,

2497
03:04:13.319 --> 03:04:16.840
you know, yeah, jacked up
in terms of the ranch, in terms

2498
03:04:16.879 --> 03:04:20.840
of the in terms of the well, in terms of the the anti authority

2499
03:04:22.680 --> 03:04:24.479
of it. You know, freak
of it, right, you know,

2500
03:04:24.120 --> 03:04:26.840
you know you wouldn't see Hulk Hogan. I mean you would see Hulk Hogan

2501
03:04:28.319 --> 03:04:31.440
go after referees, but you wouldn't
do it see it as casually as Steve

2502
03:04:31.479 --> 03:04:33.319
Austin would, right, you know, and officials, yeah, Hulk would

2503
03:04:33.520 --> 03:04:39.600
help would be victimized by the the
evil powers, you know, putting him

2504
03:04:39.600 --> 03:04:41.879
into compromising positions, but he wouldn't
attack those evil powers, you know,

2505
03:04:41.959 --> 03:04:46.600
like Steve Austin attacked Vince McMahon.
Right. So he's jumping at the bit

2506
03:04:46.639 --> 03:04:48.520
and he gets after it, whipped
to the corner, big blow, hits

2507
03:04:48.559 --> 03:04:50.639
Cheek in the face, and Chek
falls trying to peel the roebuff. Simultaneously,

2508
03:04:52.079 --> 03:04:54.600
Hogan whips chic in with the robe
still on and hits a clothes line.

2509
03:04:54.959 --> 03:04:58.280
She goes down, and then he
drags him down with the thing still

2510
03:04:58.319 --> 03:05:01.079
on his throat. You know,
he's an animal, the robe on his

2511
03:05:01.159 --> 03:05:05.079
throat, He's an animal. He
says that. That's what fucking Patterson says

2512
03:05:05.120 --> 03:05:15.920
right here A long time. He's
got it now, and I'm by the

2513
03:05:15.959 --> 03:05:18.440
way. I know he's so excited. It's great because that was why Pat

2514
03:05:18.479 --> 03:05:22.479
Patterson was a great booker. That's
why pat Patterson was such a great idea

2515
03:05:22.559 --> 03:05:26.159
man, because he knows what it's
like to get as excited as the wrestling

2516
03:05:26.239 --> 03:05:31.200
fan does about matches. That he's
not in yep, and that is a

2517
03:05:31.319 --> 03:05:35.159
very rare quality in somebody. Dick
LUTs the referee gets the robe away,

2518
03:05:35.319 --> 03:05:41.040
finally out of the mix. Hogan
then heaves chake up and throws some right

2519
03:05:41.120 --> 03:05:43.159
hands. Awesome violence here from the
Holkster. It really is. It's really

2520
03:05:43.239 --> 03:05:46.840
spectacular. Rich wip. Hogan hits
a lariat that drops him basically an exi

2521
03:05:46.879 --> 03:05:50.680
boomba was he and then almost I
thought he was going for a leg drop,

2522
03:05:50.719 --> 03:05:54.879
but he's a flying Brodie kneed the
face and then Hogan takes a pause

2523
03:05:54.879 --> 03:06:00.200
and they're pumping their fists going nuts. Hogan rakes the eyes double goo was

2524
03:06:00.200 --> 03:06:01.600
a lift she got by his throat
for the people to look at, and

2525
03:06:01.680 --> 03:06:07.000
drops him down to the canvas and
ceremoniously Patterson puts over how powerful and how

2526
03:06:07.040 --> 03:06:11.000
he can move for such a big
man and says he's actually uh spitting on

2527
03:06:11.120 --> 03:06:16.600
the chic. He declares at one
point awesome yep whip big boot and iron

2528
03:06:16.680 --> 03:06:22.920
cheek takes the delayed timber bump to
the canvas. Hogan covers one too,

2529
03:06:22.000 --> 03:06:26.559
not enough. The boot isn't enough. It's one. That's one, thank

2530
03:06:26.600 --> 03:06:31.000
you, Yes one unbelievable as Monson
sis he didn't hook the leg even in

2531
03:06:31.040 --> 03:06:35.000
a match this momentous where looking at
that fucking bullshit in there about the hook

2532
03:06:35.040 --> 03:06:41.559
in the leg? Oh brother one
chicky dude. Well, brother, I

2533
03:06:41.600 --> 03:06:43.600
can't thank you enough for putting me
over dude. I mean, it's such

2534
03:06:43.600 --> 03:06:46.680
an honor. But I got a
question, dude, Dude iron shizzl.

2535
03:06:46.760 --> 03:06:54.079
I want to tye dag bro hiz
dude, brother, man, I'm such

2536
03:06:54.719 --> 03:06:58.719
I gotta tell you, dude,
I am. I am deeply honored that

2537
03:06:58.639 --> 03:07:01.159
you know, brother, you know
you did. You did the honors.

2538
03:07:01.239 --> 03:07:05.399
Dude. I'm honored that you did
the honors. But you know, I

2539
03:07:05.440 --> 03:07:09.000
ask you know someone, I ask
you, brother. I don't know if

2540
03:07:09.040 --> 03:07:13.600
you want to, you know,
just one. I just got one question,

2541
03:07:13.760 --> 03:07:18.639
brother. You know I gave you
the boot, Dude, I gave

2542
03:07:18.639 --> 03:07:22.440
you the boot. I know that
wasn't the finished brother. I wasn't expecting,

2543
03:07:22.399 --> 03:07:28.959
you know, for you to lay
down for for that, but you

2544
03:07:28.040 --> 03:07:33.959
know he kicked out a one,
brother, like, you know what's up

2545
03:07:33.040 --> 03:07:37.079
with that? You know, do
what? What's the diz? Brother?

2546
03:07:37.280 --> 03:07:41.239
We both know how the finish is
going and what's the point of that little

2547
03:07:41.760 --> 03:07:43.719
moment there where you kind of take
a little bit of the steam off one

2548
03:07:43.760 --> 03:07:46.760
of my key moves. Dude.
I mean, let's be honest, brother,

2549
03:07:46.200 --> 03:07:48.639
I'm you know, the boot's one
of my big moves. Brother,

2550
03:07:50.239 --> 03:07:52.879
And you know, and all of
a sudden, you know, you're kicking

2551
03:07:52.879 --> 03:07:58.799
out a one and I'm wondering.
Yeah, I'm I'm wondering exactly you know

2552
03:07:58.879 --> 03:08:01.879
here I am. I'm supposed to
you. You know, this gave me

2553
03:08:01.959 --> 03:08:05.920
the torch, brother, you know, and you passed it to me,

2554
03:08:05.799 --> 03:08:07.799
and I'm thinking, wow, you
know, this is a great thing.

2555
03:08:07.879 --> 03:08:13.079
But at the same time, you
know, there's like now, already,

2556
03:08:13.319 --> 03:08:18.079
even less than twenty four hours into
my first title reign, there's already a

2557
03:08:18.200 --> 03:08:24.399
chink in the armor, right,
So, I mean, I don't know.

2558
03:08:24.520 --> 03:08:28.680
I just can I ask you a
question, Shiki? Did Vern pay

2559
03:08:28.719 --> 03:08:31.319
you to kick out at one?
Brother? Brother? I just I got

2560
03:08:31.360 --> 03:08:35.799
a no, dude, how much
did Vern pay you to kick out at

2561
03:08:35.799 --> 03:08:39.559
one? Yeah that's how you say
it, accusatorally? How much? Yet?

2562
03:08:39.879 --> 03:08:43.479
How much was it? Dude?
And don't fuck with me. Don't

2563
03:08:43.520 --> 03:08:48.360
fuck with me, chiky, because
I want to know exactly how much Vern

2564
03:08:48.440 --> 03:08:56.159
paid you, dude. Yep,
or who wait, wait was it Matt

2565
03:08:56.200 --> 03:09:03.040
Suita? Dude? Can that pay
you off? Brother? What the fuck's

2566
03:09:03.079 --> 03:09:07.200
going on? Dude? You gotta
come clean right now, shiki or we're

2567
03:09:07.239 --> 03:09:16.799
gonna have real fucking priss albums,
brother, Absolutely amazing. So yeah,

2568
03:09:16.360 --> 03:09:20.760
long and short of it is,
she kicks out at one yes, and

2569
03:09:20.879 --> 03:09:22.479
then they come back up. Whip
Hogan hits another axie boom ba and then

2570
03:09:22.520 --> 03:09:26.719
a big elbow drop on the sheic
Hogan covers. He gets two that time.

2571
03:09:26.280 --> 03:09:28.760
You knows, actually it's not an
axie boom by as much as as

2572
03:09:28.799 --> 03:09:33.360
an l B boom boy. Corner
to corner. Whip Hogan, though,

2573
03:09:33.479 --> 03:09:37.559
misses the back elbow charge and lands
on his knee and falls to his knees,

2574
03:09:37.799 --> 03:09:41.079
and she in the spiked boots starts
putting the stomps on Hogan. You

2575
03:09:41.120 --> 03:09:43.479
can tell the crowd just so feverish, yep, so feverish, like,

2576
03:09:43.559 --> 03:09:48.799
come on, keep that momentum hunt. And then she turns to him like

2577
03:09:50.319 --> 03:09:54.079
thirty years old, hul Cogan at
this point unbelievable, thirty years old,

2578
03:09:54.479 --> 03:09:56.920
so much ahead of him, and
then she kind of turns to the people

2579
03:09:56.959 --> 03:10:00.600
almost like panicked, and how loud
it is like stuf, I can't,

2580
03:10:01.159 --> 03:10:03.239
I can't get out of my own
head right now. You're being so loud

2581
03:10:03.280 --> 03:10:05.600
like a deer in the headlights.
Moment for the Chic Cheek strikes, hits

2582
03:10:05.639 --> 03:10:09.799
a back break around, Hogan gets
two, and Hogan does the big push

2583
03:10:09.840 --> 03:10:13.920
off on the kickout to a knee
and the hul cup position goes Hulk Hogan

2584
03:10:13.280 --> 03:10:18.280
Chic stomping away, but it works. It's not really a hull cup yet.

2585
03:10:18.360 --> 03:10:20.200
He hasn't really made that a key
part of his repertoire and the way

2586
03:10:20.280 --> 03:10:26.040
he become accustomed to. Chik then
loads the boot by tapping his toe on

2587
03:10:26.120 --> 03:10:28.239
the canvas. I don't know what
the fuck that does. Like he's got

2588
03:10:28.280 --> 03:10:31.200
something in the back of the boot
and when he taps it, it goes

2589
03:10:31.239 --> 03:10:33.559
to the free he bought pumps or
something, Yeah, exactly, probably a

2590
03:10:35.920 --> 03:10:41.879
rolled steel. So he taps his
toe on the canvas and then uses that

2591
03:10:41.959 --> 03:10:46.760
loaded boot to dig it into Hogan's
back double leg takedown. As the Shek

2592
03:10:46.840 --> 03:10:50.799
turns over Hull Cogan and the Boston
Crab, He's got him over. Gorilla

2593
03:10:50.879 --> 03:10:54.840
Man soon says yeah, he does
Gorilla yep, big bass in his voice

2594
03:10:54.840 --> 03:11:01.479
from Gorilla here as a chic cranks
and then hulk Cogan does a push up

2595
03:11:01.559 --> 03:11:05.120
to break that hold because he fucking
pushes out all power. She falls forward

2596
03:11:05.520 --> 03:11:09.159
and then Iron Cheek does a cut
red souplex, taking the Hulk over.

2597
03:11:09.600 --> 03:11:13.719
Do you think Dick Lutz has any
fucking idea? How important? I would

2598
03:11:13.719 --> 03:11:16.959
think so, But no, I
would think so in a way as far

2599
03:11:16.959 --> 03:11:20.479
as on the night, But how
transformati would be the business? Now?

2600
03:11:22.000 --> 03:11:26.879
He looks like someone who's just waity
to just go home, right, Fortunately

2601
03:11:26.959 --> 03:11:31.920
so is hul Cogan. He's got
a turkey sandwich waiting at home. You

2602
03:11:33.000 --> 03:11:37.520
know he bought it. He bought
it, yes, the day before in

2603
03:11:37.639 --> 03:11:43.840
preparation. Well, I gotter get
some sandwich for tomorrow. Got the match's

2604
03:11:43.920 --> 03:11:48.799
gotta go and I go late,
so I don't want to have to come

2605
03:11:48.879 --> 03:11:52.680
home and make food, right,
I gotta get that. So I wanted

2606
03:11:52.680 --> 03:11:58.159
to buy a sandwich the day before, you know, already made up,

2607
03:11:58.520 --> 03:12:00.959
you know, and you know I
know, oh that it's you know,

2608
03:12:01.120 --> 03:12:03.840
most people don't you know, post
people don't like when you got the lettuce

2609
03:12:03.879 --> 03:12:07.000
and you got all the things up
there, you because they said they say

2610
03:12:07.559 --> 03:12:11.600
they say it gets soggy, but
you know, I don't mind. The

2611
03:12:11.680 --> 03:12:18.879
soggy goes down easier, you know, thank God for that. So kids,

2612
03:12:18.920 --> 03:12:20.760
a gut wrench gets too. If
I'm still hungry, what I do,

2613
03:12:20.920 --> 03:12:26.000
what I will do afterwards, is
that I'll, uh, I'll microwave

2614
03:12:26.120 --> 03:12:35.120
myself some some scrambled eggs in a
measuring cup and the other gross things you

2615
03:12:35.200 --> 03:12:39.479
do, Dick, So gut wrench
suplex by the Sheik. He gets too,

2616
03:12:39.639 --> 03:12:43.280
They say, Hogan, way,
I cooked frozen meat is in the

2617
03:12:43.360 --> 03:12:50.360
microwave as well, my microwave frozen
burger. You know, he gets the

2618
03:12:50.440 --> 03:12:58.159
job done, you know, no
problem, you know, but and then

2619
03:12:58.360 --> 03:13:01.600
uh, you know, go to
sleep and wake up and do it all

2620
03:13:01.639 --> 03:13:07.360
over again. Lapsed Dick kroll over
the years after Hogan wins the Bell God

2621
03:13:07.399 --> 03:13:09.840
run Twoplex by chik one too.
They say, Hulk's three hundred and five

2622
03:13:09.879 --> 03:13:13.760
pounds now and she keeps stomping away
sets in the camel clutch and Hogan,

2623
03:13:13.840 --> 03:13:18.559
with his back fully arched, is
in trouble. Hush falls over the crowd.

2624
03:13:18.559 --> 03:13:20.719
They've just seen him beat Backland unexpectedly
with it. Yeah, he can

2625
03:13:20.760 --> 03:13:24.600
just gonna be the next thing.
It's brilliant that this was a thing.

2626
03:13:24.000 --> 03:13:28.680
Patterson go nuts about how no one's
been able to escape this, and this

2627
03:13:28.799 --> 03:13:31.799
is what he did to Backland.
Monson says, only the immense power of

2628
03:13:31.799 --> 03:13:35.639
the Hult could save him, and
Hulk begins to convulse. I gotta say

2629
03:13:35.719 --> 03:13:43.479
too. You know, Hogan,
to his credit, always like he always

2630
03:13:43.520 --> 03:13:46.440
sold the camel clutch better than most
people. A lot of people would end

2631
03:13:46.520 --> 03:13:50.680
up on their knees, right,
you know, and so there wouldn't be

2632
03:13:50.719 --> 03:13:54.159
as much pull, but Hogan always, you know, he always arched his

2633
03:13:54.319 --> 03:13:58.239
back. Yep, and that really
makes it hurt. I mean, really,

2634
03:13:58.639 --> 03:14:01.200
you're really putting yourself and she his
hands at that point. Yeah,

2635
03:14:01.280 --> 03:14:03.639
exactly, Like, yeah, all
he has to do is pull a little

2636
03:14:03.760 --> 03:14:07.600
harder in one direction, and you
know you're in trouble. Yep. Absolutely,

2637
03:14:09.360 --> 03:14:11.079
So Hogan convulses, gets to his
knees and they explode. They explode

2638
03:14:11.079 --> 03:14:16.639
when they realize that Hulk Hogan is
not going to fall to the cable clutch

2639
03:14:16.760 --> 03:14:18.440
like Backland did. He is going
to be the guy to get out of

2640
03:14:18.479 --> 03:14:22.680
it. And then he blowed at
this realization. Hogan stands with Chic on

2641
03:14:22.760 --> 03:14:26.920
his back, desperately clinging the hulk. Do you want to describe it?

2642
03:14:26.000 --> 03:14:28.600
Do you want to hear it?
It's up to you. I want to

2643
03:14:28.639 --> 03:14:35.120
hear it, all right. He's
stony to say he's going to reach Stoney

2644
03:14:35.120 --> 03:14:39.840
inside. Put a little something extra. Look at his power and his way

2645
03:14:39.920 --> 03:14:45.520
up. He's very tough as these
That takes the effect the words from the

2646
03:14:45.600 --> 03:14:52.000
hole. Houlk Hogan now stands up
for the second reps the int a cough

2647
03:14:52.079 --> 03:14:58.360
part of our call. Fans are
calling wild and I'm so excited. How

2648
03:14:58.399 --> 03:15:03.280
DoD he go as he got up? Well, we gotta come to buck.

2649
03:15:03.440 --> 03:15:28.920
I got a bust for the coming
dude. We have we have a

2650
03:15:30.000 --> 03:15:37.079
little chucker. There's one bodde whys
a coo chick? History Day anptions for

2651
03:15:37.360 --> 03:16:09.399
batter on the fire Coper Welcome radio
is here. What is the John in

2652
03:16:11.399 --> 03:16:16.360
the time of the fall? Five
minutes thirty seconds? But what about this

2653
03:16:16.600 --> 03:16:24.719
fount and who looks like by my
son heavy like chapping on the head,

2654
03:16:26.000 --> 03:16:39.319
clo Holt holding how you turk asbout
on their feet? Has halcopedia has taken

2655
03:16:39.399 --> 03:16:46.799
over? Wow, It's unbelievable.
I mean there from the moment, from

2656
03:16:46.840 --> 03:16:56.040
the moment that he drops the leg
There is a constant level yes of roar

2657
03:16:56.520 --> 03:17:01.159
from the crowd that doesn't end.
You've never a pop like this, No,

2658
03:17:01.559 --> 03:17:07.120
I mean screaming through the technology's ability
to capture it, rising above the

2659
03:17:07.399 --> 03:17:15.559
sound technology almost just to create this
murmur sound. It's unbelievable how loud this

2660
03:17:15.719 --> 03:17:18.200
crowd is. Ogan falls to his
knees in celebration. Dick Lutz Handsom the

2661
03:17:18.239 --> 03:17:22.600
title and he hoists it in a
moment replayed over and over and over again.

2662
03:17:24.360 --> 03:17:28.319
Went in to the crowd. Unbelievable. Holkomania is here. Couldn't have

2663
03:17:28.360 --> 03:17:31.000
put it more succinctly and better.
Such a simple match, such a simple

2664
03:17:31.040 --> 03:17:33.879
piece of business. It's all the
fans really ask for at the end of

2665
03:17:33.920 --> 03:17:39.959
the day. It's true, straightforward
and they get it and pretty amazing.

2666
03:17:41.639 --> 03:17:45.479
As Lutz straps the belt on the
Hulkster, the graphic comes up. New

2667
03:17:45.600 --> 03:17:50.440
ww F heavyweight champion Grilla Monsoon asks
us to stay with him. Wrestling fans,

2668
03:17:50.799 --> 03:17:54.159
imagine the buzz and living rooms during
this commercial break. My god,

2669
03:17:54.239 --> 03:17:58.799
you imagine kids fucking running around,
facing back and forth, jumping, jumping

2670
03:18:00.159 --> 03:18:03.319
couch, doing body slams to their
brother. You know exactly. Oh,

2671
03:18:05.879 --> 03:18:07.600
they come back and she get is
being hustled to the back by a bunch

2672
03:18:07.639 --> 03:18:11.840
of suits, and Monsoon says he
took another vicious pounding. I guess she

2673
03:18:11.000 --> 03:18:16.239
attacked Hogan during the break as well, and Hogan sent him backing. Hogan's

2674
03:18:16.239 --> 03:18:18.719
still looking ready to fight out there
with the belt on, signaling to all

2675
03:18:18.799 --> 03:18:20.239
sides of the ring, pumping them
up that he is now the champ.

2676
03:18:20.280 --> 03:18:24.920
We take another break, and when
we come back, Ginoku Linda's with the

2677
03:18:24.000 --> 03:18:28.079
new WWF champion, and here we
go. You ready, I got this

2678
03:18:28.159 --> 03:18:33.120
one. This is not a legendary
moments. It's that yep. It's a

2679
03:18:33.200 --> 03:18:37.280
scene that we've seen a million times. Uh, champagne and everything, all

2680
03:18:37.399 --> 03:18:41.040
right, it's a flute, peddlam
and pandamonium. Here back in the locker

2681
03:18:41.120 --> 03:18:46.799
rooms at Madison Square Garden, she
looking up here with a brand new WARLD

2682
03:18:46.840 --> 03:18:50.719
Wrestley Federation CHAMPI had, old Cogan, you got proof of the thousands and

2683
03:18:50.920 --> 03:18:56.600
thousands of fans not only here tonight
the Madison Square Garden, but throughout the

2684
03:18:56.680 --> 03:19:01.079
wrestling, warns me Tay Cruiser to
himself. I asked, what's full of

2685
03:19:01.079 --> 03:19:03.319
whole w ws? Just stand behind
the Holster, and I told her about

2686
03:19:03.319 --> 03:19:07.360
trying home to the USA. You
know something of me, Jean. It's

2687
03:19:07.440 --> 03:19:09.959
the dream of a lifetime, Daddy, when you know something I can't imagine.

2688
03:19:11.000 --> 03:19:13.200
This is like going to the mountaintop
a thousand times offer. I feel

2689
03:19:13.239 --> 03:19:16.920
the energy, how coming he is
running worldwide? It just turns beyond me,

2690
03:19:18.040 --> 03:19:22.479
Gene. I felt everyone held those
twenty five thirty plus thousand people with

2691
03:19:22.639 --> 03:19:26.040
me standing behind me all the way
and it felt great. Well you have

2692
03:19:26.159 --> 03:19:28.920
a rived, Holko, I have
you've never seen anything? It's beautiful,

2693
03:19:28.959 --> 03:19:31.639
is me? Ge This fell just
part of yours suit. It's everybody out

2694
03:19:31.680 --> 03:19:43.280
there's no oh Andre the giant congratulating. Hell, no heavyweight in the world.

2695
03:19:45.520 --> 03:19:48.040
That's nice of you. I'm very
proud of you. I'm going for

2696
03:19:48.159 --> 03:19:58.639
the listener who I've been very how
are you here? Very good? Many

2697
03:20:01.600 --> 03:20:11.200
from what they had the garden with
the new heavyweight champion. You're gonna be

2698
03:20:11.360 --> 03:20:20.559
kidding, be Rocky Johnson here.
All the baby faces celebrating backstage with the

2699
03:20:20.600 --> 03:20:22.479
Holts are not all but but a
handful. And man, does he get

2700
03:20:22.520 --> 03:20:28.600
the champagne in his eyes? He
gave it open his eyes they're like closed.

2701
03:20:28.000 --> 03:20:31.479
Yeah, I think they had a
little fun with it. You could

2702
03:20:31.479 --> 03:20:37.559
tell that a Rocky caught Gene by
surprise with his with his champagne shower.

2703
03:20:39.520 --> 03:20:45.440
But it's pretty it's a pretty remarkable
scene. It's it's a legitimate celebratory environment.

2704
03:20:45.559 --> 03:20:50.079
Backstage business is really about to pick
up to a level that that they

2705
03:20:50.200 --> 03:20:54.600
they really couldn't have anticipated, and
the fact that Rocky Johnson is among them

2706
03:20:54.120 --> 03:20:58.040
does take us just quickly to Rocky's
book as he recalls what it was like

2707
03:20:58.200 --> 03:21:05.079
for for Hogan to come and take
the championship and kind of where what position

2708
03:21:05.159 --> 03:21:09.959
it put him in, as you
know, one of the lead babyfaces in

2709
03:21:09.040 --> 03:21:16.280
the organization that was more bought into
by Vince Senior than Vince Junior. Wasn't

2710
03:21:16.319 --> 03:21:20.120
long before the Samoans were taking the
belts. Pardon me not the Samoans.

2711
03:21:20.920 --> 03:21:24.200
They lost the belts to Donnis and
Murdoch, didn't they Yeah, yeah,

2712
03:21:24.719 --> 03:21:28.879
Johnson and Atlas, So they're just
coming into the territory. Did to thrown

2713
03:21:28.959 --> 03:21:33.120
those guys, He writes in his
book as Rocky Johnson, I was in

2714
03:21:33.159 --> 03:21:35.600
Madison Square Garden for two consecutive months, during which time the WUF title changed

2715
03:21:35.639 --> 03:21:39.239
hands. First title change took place
December twenty six, eighty three, when

2716
03:21:39.280 --> 03:21:41.399
Backlan dropped the belt to Chic.
McMahon's plans were to put strap on Hogan,

2717
03:21:41.440 --> 03:21:43.520
but he didn't want to put Hogan
against Backland, so he used the

2718
03:21:43.559 --> 03:21:46.719
Sheikh as the transitional champion. After
they gave Sheikh the news, he came

2719
03:21:46.719 --> 03:21:50.200
back to the dressing room and told
me all the while looking at the floor

2720
03:21:50.239 --> 03:21:52.360
and shaking his head, why is
he only giving it to me for one

2721
03:21:52.399 --> 03:21:54.360
month? I said, I don't
know. Go ask him. They're giving

2722
03:21:54.399 --> 03:21:56.559
it to you, They're not giving
it to me. Now. This is

2723
03:21:56.760 --> 03:21:58.479
such bullshit because she did not know
when he won the belt that night that

2724
03:21:58.840 --> 03:22:01.600
he was going to lose it in
just a month, and he definitely didn't

2725
03:22:01.600 --> 03:22:03.600
know what was going to be against
Hogan, who hadn't even come into the

2726
03:22:03.760 --> 03:22:07.000
company yet. Sheik was missing the
big picture. Johnson says it was a

2727
03:22:07.079 --> 03:22:09.120
huge honor just to hold it for
a short time and to be able to

2728
03:22:09.159 --> 03:22:11.920
say you had been the WAF heavyweight
Champion. How many guys can say that?

2729
03:22:13.360 --> 03:22:15.719
I know, I can't funny thing
about it was. It was supposed

2730
03:22:15.760 --> 03:22:18.000
to be a secret until his match
with Backlan was over. But the Sheik

2731
03:22:18.040 --> 03:22:20.959
told everybody because he was upset.
I heard him tell everyone in the dressing

2732
03:22:20.000 --> 03:22:22.719
room, I'm only keeping it for
one month. It was common practice in

2733
03:22:22.719 --> 03:22:26.000
the WAF for McMahon to keep everyone
everything close to the vest. He didn't

2734
03:22:26.000 --> 03:22:28.799
tell us anything, it didn't directly
pertain to us. Well month later,

2735
03:22:30.000 --> 03:22:31.799
January twenty third, nineteen eighty four, in the garden, Hulkgan took the

2736
03:22:31.840 --> 03:22:35.559
belt from the Iron Cheek. This
was a surprise. Nobody, even the

2737
03:22:35.639 --> 03:22:41.079
Sheikh said anything about it beforehand.
What however, we knew something was up

2738
03:22:41.120 --> 03:22:45.120
because they had cases of champagne stacked
in the dressing room. After the match,

2739
03:22:45.159 --> 03:22:48.239
they brought the cameras in and poured
champagne over Hogan's head, Ladies and

2740
03:22:48.280 --> 03:22:50.360
gentlemen, the new World Wrestling Federation
Champion. In those days, the main

2741
03:22:50.399 --> 03:22:52.760
event went on before the semifinal.
On that night, I was in the

2742
03:22:52.799 --> 03:22:56.280
semifinal as we'll get to with Andre
the Giant and Tony Atlases, my tag

2743
03:22:56.319 --> 03:23:01.600
team partners against the Wild Samoans Office
Seek in Samulakwahi. They had the celebration

2744
03:23:01.719 --> 03:23:05.840
for Hogan in the dressing room before
we went to the ring, and that

2745
03:23:05.040 --> 03:23:09.799
is the recollections there of the guy
who actually closes the show, right,

2746
03:23:09.360 --> 03:23:15.120
yeah, right, two matches after
Hogan wins the championship, which was kind

2747
03:23:15.159 --> 03:23:16.479
of the design for the Garden.
They wanted to get the main event out

2748
03:23:18.040 --> 03:23:22.319
so they could then use the intermission
right after the main event to give people

2749
03:23:22.319 --> 03:23:24.959
a chance to buy tickets to the
next Garden show when they were at their

2750
03:23:24.040 --> 03:23:28.120
peak. That was the the idea. Plus, they would you know,

2751
03:23:28.159 --> 03:23:33.520
people that wanted to leave earlier or
earlier could feel a blig you know,

2752
03:23:33.040 --> 03:23:37.479
cleared to do so at that hour. But yeah, it's it's something they're

2753
03:23:37.479 --> 03:23:41.079
clearly planning the flag there or the
seed for a Hogan andre program. You

2754
03:23:41.120 --> 03:23:45.159
know, that's classic WWF. They
start out as friends, right yep,

2755
03:23:45.959 --> 03:23:48.440
and eventually the jealousy would start to
pump through. Ivan Putski's in the scene

2756
03:23:48.440 --> 03:23:52.479
as well. Yeah, it's super
Monday, Juno declares the Garden with the

2757
03:23:52.559 --> 03:23:56.879
new heavyweight champion. Back to the
ring, Thinks says this contest following to

2758
03:23:58.200 --> 03:24:03.840
h I would like to just take
a moment here because yes, I also

2759
03:24:03.000 --> 03:24:15.280
have a copy of the WWE program
Oh Beautiful magazine, and in it there

2760
03:24:15.440 --> 03:24:18.600
is an article. This is from
What's the thing that doesn't give me a

2761
03:24:18.879 --> 03:24:22.360
date. But this is after he
right after he won the title, and

2762
03:24:24.479 --> 03:24:30.000
there's actually a moment where Blassy they
talk about the relationship for a moment.

2763
03:24:30.719 --> 03:24:33.159
I think it's hilarious because they put
it in this magazine, like the the

2764
03:24:33.280 --> 03:24:37.840
lesser magazine. Oh, you know, the one you can only get at

2765
03:24:37.879 --> 03:24:39.520
the place, so not everyone had
access to this one. But here we

2766
03:24:39.600 --> 03:24:46.159
go. The incredible hul Cogan finally
realizes championship goal, the Hulkster to thrones

2767
03:24:46.200 --> 03:24:52.920
the Iron Cheek. After only twenty
eight days, Hull Hogan has finally realized

2768
03:24:52.959 --> 03:25:00.639
and lived up to his billing as
the People's Champion. Yes, whoa whoa

2769
03:25:00.639 --> 03:25:05.760
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa not to

2770
03:25:05.879 --> 03:25:11.600
mention the World Wrestling Entertainments Champion.
The three hundred and three pound grappler from

2771
03:25:11.639 --> 03:25:16.479
Venice Beach, California, became only
the ninth man in more than twenty years

2772
03:25:16.600 --> 03:25:20.479
of World Roasting entertainment history to capture
the prestigious title from the Iron Cheek before

2773
03:25:20.479 --> 03:25:24.799
a capacity crowd at New York's Madison
Square Garden on January twenty third, nineteen

2774
03:25:24.920 --> 03:25:30.040
eighty four. That victory, a
hard fought battle in which Hogan displayed his

2775
03:25:30.159 --> 03:25:35.760
tremendous skills and awesome power and strength, squelched numerous beliefs and labels tattooed to

2776
03:25:35.840 --> 03:25:39.920
Hogan which had accumulated over the past
three years. Prior to the New York

2777
03:25:39.000 --> 03:25:43.520
Bout, many wrestling observers and fans
thought of Hogan could never win the big

2778
03:25:43.639 --> 03:25:50.680
match, the championship caliber battles,
but Hogan put that notion to rest by

2779
03:25:50.840 --> 03:25:54.319
ending the Iron Cheeks title reign at
twenty eight days, the shortest the third

2780
03:25:54.399 --> 03:26:00.879
shortest span in world wrestling entertainment history. Only Stan Stasia at nine days and

2781
03:26:01.000 --> 03:26:05.440
Ivan Cooloft twenty one days held the
title for a shorter amount of time.

2782
03:26:05.079 --> 03:26:09.479
Ironically, Hogan's victory over the Iron
Cheek added more meaning to the w B

2783
03:26:09.639 --> 03:26:13.799
title. First, Hogan was a
last minute replacement to former w B champ

2784
03:26:13.879 --> 03:26:18.159
Bob Backland. Backland was unable to
fulfill his commitment due to a neck injury

2785
03:26:18.280 --> 03:26:22.799
suffered prior to December sixth, nineteen
eighty three against the Iranian strong Man.

2786
03:26:22.559 --> 03:26:28.520
Secondly, Hogan's signature for the match
pitted him against his former manager Freddie Blasi

2787
03:26:30.079 --> 03:26:35.399
more than three years ago. Blasi
covered the six foot eight inch blonde haired

2788
03:26:35.399 --> 03:26:39.280
wrestler, and Blassi guided Hogan to
the number one contenders position in less than

2789
03:26:39.319 --> 03:26:46.719
one year. The mutual admiration and
appreciation, however, between wrestler and manager,

2790
03:26:46.799 --> 03:26:52.360
quickly dissipated, and Hogan ventured west
to the Midwest, where he became

2791
03:26:52.440 --> 03:26:58.600
one of wrestling's top attractions and well
liked wrestlers. So when the opportunity arose

2792
03:26:58.639 --> 03:27:01.239
for Hogan to venture back to to
WB circles, the Holkser jumped to the

2793
03:27:01.280 --> 03:27:07.399
opportunity of settling the score against his
foreign manager, and indeed he did.

2794
03:27:07.239 --> 03:27:11.760
Now, I just hope this victory
for the World Wrestling Entertainment title will quiet

2795
03:27:11.840 --> 03:27:16.719
those pessimists, Hogan said after defeating
the Iron Chic, especially Blassie. The

2796
03:27:16.879 --> 03:27:22.319
man mismanaged me before, and this
victory is especially sweet. I'm very happy

2797
03:27:22.360 --> 03:27:26.920
to have burst his championship bubble after
just a short time. Now I'm the

2798
03:27:28.000 --> 03:27:33.840
people's champion. Meanwhile, the usually
boisterous Blassie appeared to be at a loss

2799
03:27:33.879 --> 03:27:37.479
for words following the defeat, with
the Iron Cheek at his side. Blassie,

2800
03:27:37.719 --> 03:27:43.280
you began the conversation in an uncharacteristically
low tone of voice. However,

2801
03:27:43.360 --> 03:27:48.360
when his previous relationship with Hogan was
mentioned, Blassi quickly exploded into a tire

2802
03:27:48.440 --> 03:27:52.719
rade. I took Holk Hogan and
made them money is today. I found

2803
03:27:52.799 --> 03:27:56.079
him and discovered him in Venice Beach, California. At that time, he

2804
03:27:56.360 --> 03:28:01.360
was just a bodybelder on a weightlifter, and we had a very weak brain.

2805
03:28:01.959 --> 03:28:05.639
I took him, babied him like
a mother hand would dude her chickens.

2806
03:28:05.920 --> 03:28:11.399
And then to have this vulture turn
on me. I despise Hulk Hogan.

2807
03:28:11.799 --> 03:28:15.239
I wouldn't even wipe my feet on
him. But I guarantee you that

2808
03:28:15.360 --> 03:28:20.440
I will unleash power that you've never
seen before, not just with my man

2809
03:28:20.559 --> 03:28:24.840
may iron cheek, but all my
men will stock Hulk Hogan. I will

2810
03:28:24.920 --> 03:28:30.200
destroy Vermann like hul Cogan. I
guarantee it. The World Wrestling Entertainment title

2811
03:28:30.319 --> 03:28:33.239
means more to me than life itself. I shall have it back again.

2812
03:28:33.760 --> 03:28:39.079
I shall have it. In the
meantime, Hogan will continue to bask in

2813
03:28:39.120 --> 03:28:43.879
the glory in which few men have
enjoyed. It's good to be back before

2814
03:28:43.959 --> 03:28:48.399
my fans in the worldlesting entertainment.
And to win the title after only my

2815
03:28:48.520 --> 03:28:52.559
first match back, well, that's
something that I will always remember and cherish.

2816
03:28:54.079 --> 03:28:56.319
I'll take on anybody that wants to
take this belt away from the People's

2817
03:28:56.399 --> 03:29:01.000
Champion, but anyone that wants his
time bad enough, like the Iron Chic

2818
03:29:01.040 --> 03:29:07.319
and Blassy will have to deal with
the Holster spoken like a true champion.

2819
03:29:07.319 --> 03:29:11.000
That's awesome, boss, thanks for
pulling that up. Yeah. Next to

2820
03:29:11.079 --> 03:29:16.440
it is a order form for the
WWE tote bag. They better believe it.

2821
03:29:16.559 --> 03:29:20.719
Much more of that to come.
Yes, that's amazing. Yeah,

2822
03:29:20.760 --> 03:29:26.040
that's definitely definitely a sneaky little thing
that programmed they would they would publish next

2823
03:29:26.079 --> 03:29:28.879
to the main magazine. Unbelievable.
Yeah, great stuff too. It only

2824
03:29:28.959 --> 03:29:33.159
get it in the uh in the
arena when you when you went to shows

2825
03:29:33.280 --> 03:29:35.799
live show. Yeah, it's like
the thing you would buy on the way

2826
03:29:35.840 --> 03:29:39.840
into the building. Yep. Amazing, amazing coverage and amazing thoughts there from

2827
03:29:39.840 --> 03:29:41.639
Freddy Blassie. With immediate plans they
will go around the horn a little bit.

2828
03:29:43.079 --> 03:29:46.440
Yeap, Hogan and cheek after this
they had imagined of course in there.

2829
03:29:46.639 --> 03:29:50.479
Yep, great stuff. So to
close out the msg card, we

2830
03:29:50.559 --> 03:29:52.639
go back to the ring. Fing
says, this contest will be followed with

2831
03:29:52.719 --> 03:29:56.520
one other bout for you wondering renego
Ley at two thirty six, Jimmy snook

2832
03:29:56.559 --> 03:30:00.559
and how poetic because we talked about
who Vince could have went with. It

2833
03:30:00.719 --> 03:30:01.639
was Snucker, it was Hogan?
Or was Kerry von Eric? Right?

2834
03:30:01.840 --> 03:30:07.040
Yep, and snuck a salt.
He snuck as my favorite Snucker. Oh

2835
03:30:07.239 --> 03:30:09.239
yes, here's what he says in
his book. Back in the day,

2836
03:30:09.399 --> 03:30:13.159
Vinnie would cut loose with us.
Vinnie Senior, he was not like a

2837
03:30:13.200 --> 03:30:16.000
boss watching over us. He was
good to us all but vin Senior imagined

2838
03:30:16.040 --> 03:30:18.559
me on top. And then it
became clear, first with Bob Backland and

2839
03:30:18.600 --> 03:30:20.799
shortly after that with Hulk Hogan,
that I was not going to be winning

2840
03:30:20.840 --> 03:30:24.879
the belt. I remember right after
Rocky three, Vinie wanted Hogan to be

2841
03:30:24.920 --> 03:30:26.639
the top star. I still get
along with Hogan and respect the Breda for

2842
03:30:26.719 --> 03:30:30.079
everything that he has done, but
he rubbed me the wrong way at first,

2843
03:30:30.399 --> 03:30:31.040
early on, when he was trying
to make a name for himself,

2844
03:30:31.079 --> 03:30:33.280
we were wrestling at a show in
Los Angeles and he got pissed at me.

2845
03:30:33.479 --> 03:30:37.360
We were a tag team facing Cowboy
Bob Orton and Don Morocco. As

2846
03:30:37.399 --> 03:30:39.159
you know, Donn and I have
been wrestling each other for years, so

2847
03:30:39.159 --> 03:30:41.600
we knew how to get heat well. Hogan was posing in the ring.

2848
03:30:41.680 --> 03:30:43.799
We were popping the crowd, just
as we had been doing for years.

2849
03:30:43.879 --> 03:30:46.200
Hogan was stunned, you could see
it in his face. Don and I

2850
03:30:46.360 --> 03:30:50.120
just went at it and left Bob
and Hulk in the ring together. The

2851
03:30:50.200 --> 03:30:52.280
gimmick was we continued our fight in
the locker room after the match. I

2852
03:30:52.360 --> 03:30:56.280
remember Hogan came into the locker room
pissed off. He charged in said he

2853
03:30:56.319 --> 03:31:00.360
didn't want me to take on Bob
Orton anymore. I guess he and want

2854
03:31:00.440 --> 03:31:03.000
me to get over in any of
his matches. I just remember saying to

2855
03:31:03.120 --> 03:31:05.760
him, are you talking to this
piece of ass? Are you talking to

2856
03:31:05.879 --> 03:31:09.879
this piece of ass? I was
so insulved. I don't think he knows

2857
03:31:09.920 --> 03:31:13.319
a piece of ass means. I
was so insulted by what he said my

2858
03:31:13.399 --> 03:31:16.079
eyes were bulging out of my head. He eventually walked away and that was

2859
03:31:16.120 --> 03:31:18.520
it. We got along after that, but I know that might have screwed

2860
03:31:18.559 --> 03:31:22.600
me. As the months went by, I felt as if I was being

2861
03:31:22.719 --> 03:31:28.399
buried. Oh well, plus you
murdered Nancy Argentino and and you know,

2862
03:31:28.920 --> 03:31:35.000
were high all the time and constantly
causing headaches. From a drug possession perspective,

2863
03:31:35.079 --> 03:31:39.399
there was that yeah, yeah,
rehab problem. You're not you weren't

2864
03:31:39.440 --> 03:31:45.639
you weren't ready, so tough.
Yeah, But he ends up interestingly cornering

2865
03:31:45.680 --> 03:31:48.520
Hogan's team in the first brussel Mania, so not too far from Vince Junior's

2866
03:31:48.559 --> 03:31:52.600
plans, and on the cover of
the very first Victory magazine, the very

2867
03:31:52.639 --> 03:31:56.719
first WF magazine that a Vince Junior
published, and snook a one Wrestler of

2868
03:31:56.719 --> 03:32:01.360
the Year for nineteen eighty three.
Wow. Going into eighty four, it

2869
03:32:01.479 --> 03:32:03.799
was a big ups for him.
Remember we did that the very first All

2870
03:32:03.840 --> 03:32:09.440
American Christmas Show. Yes, that's
a big about Jimmy Snooker having the banner

2871
03:32:09.559 --> 03:32:13.319
year and everything. So yep,
A what a fascinating thing that is.

2872
03:32:13.360 --> 03:32:18.000
Because Hogan still isn't quite in yet, so they're taking you through the roster

2873
03:32:18.159 --> 03:32:22.479
of guys that they were featuring right
before Hogan came in. Anyway, pat

2874
03:32:22.479 --> 03:32:24.879
Patterson said, I didn't get to
want I don't even want to talk.

2875
03:32:24.239 --> 03:32:28.239
I was into this so much the
last match and Snuka does the piece.

2876
03:32:28.440 --> 03:32:30.840
We see the snook A piece hands
foam fingers in the crowd. So there's

2877
03:32:30.879 --> 03:32:33.959
some merch for the Superfly on sale. Patterson says, you talk about a

2878
03:32:33.000 --> 03:32:35.680
spectacular night. I will never forget. They do a great job buzzing,

2879
03:32:37.079 --> 03:32:41.159
like totally do about the match afterwards. Now in the ring, is that

2880
03:32:41.200 --> 03:32:46.239
Renee Gulay or is that Bernard Hill
from the Lord of the Rings? It

2881
03:32:46.360 --> 03:32:50.840
is Bernard Hill. Yes, Gallet
hit Snooker from behind for the bell and

2882
03:32:50.920 --> 03:32:52.879
hits them, slapped him with the
chest whip at a back elbow. Halkimania

2883
03:32:52.959 --> 03:32:56.319
just went crazy here in the Big
Apple, Monsoon says, So they're just

2884
03:32:56.360 --> 03:32:58.719
talking about Hogan right over Snooker's match
exactly. I mean, how much more

2885
03:32:58.760 --> 03:33:03.520
can you berry fucking Jimmy my instruments
talking about how just getting some It might

2886
03:33:03.559 --> 03:33:07.600
be some champagne left. Hopefully by
the time I get back there Snooga,

2887
03:33:07.639 --> 03:33:11.120
turns things around, hits a hip
toss and sends Guley flying. Galley gets

2888
03:33:11.159 --> 03:33:15.159
him down and puts basically the iron
claw on Jimmy Sticker. He really does.

2889
03:33:15.239 --> 03:33:18.120
It's the fucking iron claw. As
Monsoon continues to marvel at Hulk Hogan

2890
03:33:18.120 --> 03:33:20.120
and getting out of the Campbell clutch, and he says, you think the

2891
03:33:20.120 --> 03:33:22.959
people of New York are ready for
the Hulk, And Patterson says, I

2892
03:33:22.000 --> 03:33:24.879
believe hul Cogan is ready for them, and Girtlea. Monsoon says the entire

2893
03:33:24.879 --> 03:33:31.000
wrestling world will be suffering from Hulkamania. I'm sure especially in Minnesota. Yeah,

2894
03:33:31.639 --> 03:33:35.639
Patterson says, just being being arrested
myself, I know what it's like

2895
03:33:35.719 --> 03:33:37.239
to be in there, and oh
my, many times I wanted to be

2896
03:33:37.239 --> 03:33:39.799
in there just to feel the excitement. You can't describe it. So he's

2897
03:33:39.840 --> 03:33:43.000
he's, he still doesn't. Galley, with a quick kneelift, sends super

2898
03:33:43.040 --> 03:33:46.799
Fly Down or the Fly as Monsoon
would call him Irish whip Ducks. He

2899
03:33:46.840 --> 03:33:50.280
drops Goolay with a chop and a
head butt, does Jimmy Snooker. The

2900
03:33:50.319 --> 03:33:52.440
crowd thinned out a bit. It
sounds like, or at least they're just

2901
03:33:52.520 --> 03:33:54.600
not total. I'm sure they're fucking
I mean, it's a weird. It's

2902
03:33:54.680 --> 03:33:58.920
weird. I understand there what they're
why they do what they do. But

2903
03:33:58.479 --> 03:34:03.920
don't you think people would want to
buy the tickets after the show? And

2904
03:34:03.159 --> 03:34:05.959
two if they if Hogan wins,
like if the main event happens. Yeah,

2905
03:34:05.959 --> 03:34:09.360
I think it's like it's a question
of if you're gonna leave, like

2906
03:34:09.680 --> 03:34:13.159
do you really want to tack on
another like do you want to get home

2907
03:34:13.200 --> 03:34:16.000
that much later? You know,
if you have to wait the last match

2908
03:34:16.040 --> 03:34:18.319
to buy the tickets, then Jesus, how long do you have to wait

2909
03:34:18.440 --> 03:34:22.879
before you get home? Yeah?
All right, I guess I think that's

2910
03:34:22.920 --> 03:34:26.479
what they're thinking. So drop down
snook up with two leap frogs, does

2911
03:34:26.520 --> 03:34:30.399
the chop, puts down gulet,
climbs the top rope, pits across body.

2912
03:34:30.440 --> 03:34:33.040
One, two, three, And
you've never seen Jimmy Snooker leave a

2913
03:34:33.120 --> 03:34:35.479
ring faster in his life. Oh, he's so fucking over it. Immediately

2914
03:34:35.520 --> 03:34:39.840
bounces out of the ring and up
the aisle with no celebration, not there

2915
03:34:39.879 --> 03:34:45.000
for the announcement. He's gone,
he's done. He knows that his lunch

2916
03:34:45.040 --> 03:34:50.760
has been eaten. Yep to the
parents of Hulk Hogan back the stage with

2917
03:34:50.840 --> 03:34:56.079
Jenie England. The Hogans, they're
not the balay Is, they're the Hogans.

2918
03:34:56.479 --> 03:35:01.719
It's Pete and it's uh Ruth,
Ruth, Ruth and Pete Hogan.

2919
03:35:01.000 --> 03:35:05.559
Do we have sound? Oh?
Yes we do. Uh and I guess

2920
03:35:05.760 --> 03:35:07.959
so, I guess what they're trying
to make us believe on WWE television is

2921
03:35:09.000 --> 03:35:15.959
that Ruth and Pete Hogan named their
son Hulk. Yes, we are being

2922
03:35:15.959 --> 03:35:18.360
asked to believe that that's correct.
Gott, I'll tell you something, Girlamut

2923
03:35:18.399 --> 03:35:24.000
said that Pat Patterson the party has
not many swan Iota, I want to

2924
03:35:24.040 --> 03:35:28.319
make an introduce introduction if I may. Ruth and Pete Hogan, the parents

2925
03:35:28.399 --> 03:35:33.079
of the incredible Hulk Hogan here celebrating. I'm gonna get your mom first.

2926
03:35:33.159 --> 03:35:35.719
Excuse me. What are your thoughts
right now? Missus Hogan, your son

2927
03:35:35.959 --> 03:35:39.760
the new world Champion. I'm so
excited. I don't know what to say

2928
03:35:41.120 --> 03:35:43.559
except I know my son is dedicated. I tell you he's been wonderful for

2929
03:35:43.680 --> 03:35:46.120
the sport, and the sport's wonderful
to him. But I'll tell you,

2930
03:35:46.200 --> 03:35:50.559
I don't think he could have got
to where he got tonight in front of

2931
03:35:50.600 --> 03:35:54.200
this packed house at Madison Square Garden
without parents. Pete, I know your

2932
03:35:54.280 --> 03:35:58.879
breeding as I am. You didn't
get any champagne on you though yet.

2933
03:35:58.360 --> 03:36:05.760
Yeah? What about your son the
new World Wrestling Federation champion, the consummate

2934
03:36:05.840 --> 03:36:11.719
athlete. Well, we're very proud
of him, very dedicated and real professional.

2935
03:36:13.719 --> 03:36:16.799
You gotta be proud of a mom
and dad knows amazing. Peton and

2936
03:36:16.840 --> 03:36:18.639
Ruth are the people that trained me
from the day I could toddle man,

2937
03:36:18.840 --> 03:36:22.840
and they're the ones that sent me
and made these twenty fourth platforms. This

2938
03:36:22.040 --> 03:36:26.159
is Peach Belt and Roosevelt, and
we're gonna stand behind it all the way.

2939
03:36:26.239 --> 03:36:30.239
Daddy, It's USA in hall Comania, run a wild Oh the party,

2940
03:36:30.360 --> 03:36:33.680
lady said, gentleman is going on. There is your new champion of

2941
03:36:33.719 --> 03:36:37.319
the world, the incredible Hulk Hogan, kissing that coveted belt. Come back

2942
03:36:37.360 --> 03:36:41.920
to Pat Patterson and go run them
on food. And when Hogan starts going

2943
03:36:43.000 --> 03:36:45.360
off, Ruth has a smile on
her face, like, oh, here

2944
03:36:45.440 --> 03:36:50.040
he goes again? Did did did
he say? As soon as I a

2945
03:36:50.159 --> 03:36:54.719
tunnel toddle? I think he said
tuttle? Okay, as a toddler,

2946
03:36:54.280 --> 03:36:58.600
I guess still doesn't make much sense. Well, and well, you know,

2947
03:36:58.719 --> 03:37:00.559
Ruth has a smile on her face. It's like, Oh, here

2948
03:37:00.639 --> 03:37:03.520
goes the stick. Pete is standing
there looking like a hostage the whole time.

2949
03:37:03.760 --> 03:37:07.479
Oh, He's miserable, no clue
it to say, hates his life.

2950
03:37:07.719 --> 03:37:09.840
Hulk kisses the strap on his shoulder
and hugs his pin there. Does

2951
03:37:09.959 --> 03:37:13.680
not know why he's there, doesn't
know why he exists, does not know

2952
03:37:13.760 --> 03:37:16.399
why he's going to deal with this
shit. This Helt says in his second

2953
03:37:16.440 --> 03:37:18.680
book. My dad would was a
pipe fitter. He was great at it.

2954
03:37:18.799 --> 03:37:22.879
I remember he did big jobs installing
trainage systems for the malls and high

2955
03:37:22.959 --> 03:37:24.479
rises being built in Mark, Tampa. Not doing big jobs, brother,

2956
03:37:24.639 --> 03:37:28.959
that's right, unlike his son did
big jobs. After a few years,

2957
03:37:28.959 --> 03:37:31.600
he was promoted a foreman. When
the road was all dug up and they

2958
03:37:31.639 --> 03:37:33.280
were laying big six foot pipes and
messing up traffic, he'd be the guy

2959
03:37:33.440 --> 03:37:37.159
standing in the sun with his arms
folded overseeing all that work and then jumping

2960
03:37:37.200 --> 03:37:39.600
in to do it himself when it
wasn't coming out just right. He wasn't

2961
03:37:39.600 --> 03:37:41.200
a real big guy, maybe five
foot eleven, but he was real strong,

2962
03:37:41.239 --> 03:37:43.680
with strong hands and a good grip. That seemed to be common among

2963
03:37:43.719 --> 03:37:48.360
them ballet of men. Going back
to my grandfather. My mom was a

2964
03:37:48.399 --> 03:37:50.479
housewife, so that's all the money
we ever had, but it never seemed

2965
03:37:50.479 --> 03:37:54.000
to me that we didn't have much
money. Everything seemed normal. Heck,

2966
03:37:54.000 --> 03:37:56.959
every Friday, my mom would pull
out these little frozen minute steaks for dinner,

2967
03:37:58.159 --> 03:38:01.239
so every Friday we'd get to eat
steak. Life was good, Life

2968
03:38:01.639 --> 03:38:05.799
was simple. The bolet is meet
the Ballets, Yes, meet the Hogan's.

2969
03:38:05.959 --> 03:38:09.920
Definitely not the kind of a family
that a Hulk was able to replicate.

2970
03:38:09.440 --> 03:38:11.760
No, not at all his own
life, But kind of nice that

2971
03:38:11.840 --> 03:38:16.159
his parents were on hand. It's
kind of it's a dimension of Hulk Cogan

2972
03:38:16.200 --> 03:38:18.520
that I wouldn't have expected them to
want to show. Yes, while we

2973
03:38:18.600 --> 03:38:20.920
were supposed to love Hulk Cogan,
it's just like, you know, someone

2974
03:38:22.040 --> 03:38:26.840
seeking virtue and saving Bob Backland and
dispatching the the evil Chik. He was

2975
03:38:26.840 --> 03:38:30.639
supposed to be a little larger than
life than somebody who's just who's a son,

2976
03:38:30.920 --> 03:38:33.520
you know what I mean? Yeah, right, So I was surprised

2977
03:38:33.559 --> 03:38:37.280
to see them there. But I
think the only time that Hogan's parents have

2978
03:38:37.319 --> 03:38:43.079
bet on wrestling TV. I know. Yeah, fascinating stuff. So back

2979
03:38:43.159 --> 03:38:46.000
to the ring quickly to end the
card as the Samoans are out off Us

2980
03:38:46.000 --> 03:38:48.920
Cicca, the father, of course
of Roman reigns and Samoula, the future

2981
03:38:48.959 --> 03:38:54.360
samu of the Headshrinkers Rocky Johnson and
Tony Atlas has mentioned where the WWF Tag

2982
03:38:54.399 --> 03:38:58.200
team champions at the time. Offha
gets on the mic speaking a bunch as

2983
03:38:58.239 --> 03:39:01.319
they cut to oh my god,
so weird Rocky, Andre and Atlas on

2984
03:39:01.399 --> 03:39:07.200
their way to the ring, and
Andre's got that goofy smile that he has.

2985
03:39:07.200 --> 03:39:16.639
I'm happy to be here, totally
doms and square, the the the

2986
03:39:16.920 --> 03:39:26.520
and whether it's a piece of pizza, the hot dog rub fender like that

2987
03:39:26.680 --> 03:39:31.280
matters, Like that's irrelevant detail.
So they it's a great shot back there.

2988
03:39:31.440 --> 03:39:35.559
You know, they did the same
locker room backstage shot on the way

2989
03:39:35.600 --> 03:39:37.319
to the ring that he did for
Hogan. And you can see our old

2990
03:39:37.319 --> 03:39:39.280
skulling back there, smoking cigar with
a smile on his face. Must have

2991
03:39:39.360 --> 03:39:43.879
been thrilled. The whole inner circle
must have been so thrilled at how that

2992
03:39:43.959 --> 03:39:48.399
Hogan thing went off like it actually
is. It's everything we could have hoped

2993
03:39:48.399 --> 03:39:50.719
for and more. Final the end
of the evening, Funk tells us a

2994
03:39:50.840 --> 03:39:56.879
funk Fink, they show a great
drawing of a sign of Andre in the

2995
03:39:56.920 --> 03:40:01.200
audience. Someone's been where Andre's here, it's as and yeah, eight hundred

2996
03:40:01.200 --> 03:40:07.000
and seventy seven combined pounds are the
Samoans and the tag champs nearly a whole

2997
03:40:07.120 --> 03:40:11.559
fucking ton of weight? Absolutely all
right, a build actually at least build

2998
03:40:11.600 --> 03:40:15.200
weight, build weight. Yeah,
and do they ring the bell between the

2999
03:40:15.280 --> 03:40:18.120
introduction of each and every member of
the three man baby face team? Yes,

3000
03:40:18.159 --> 03:40:22.200
they do? Oh god fucking like, what is wrong with this timekeeper?

3001
03:40:22.799 --> 03:40:24.520
So they close things out Andre the
Giant, Rocky Johnson, and Tony

3002
03:40:24.559 --> 03:40:28.520
Atlas versus the Samoans. Uh girl, Monsoon says, everyone is just about

3003
03:40:28.520 --> 03:40:31.799
all screamed out and hollered out,
just in case you wonder why it's so

3004
03:40:31.920 --> 03:40:37.239
quiet in here. As the pandemonium
took place tonight one follow a curfew,

3005
03:40:37.360 --> 03:40:41.559
remember if this went too late per
New York did Athletic Comission rules, they

3006
03:40:41.559 --> 03:40:46.799
shut the show down. Wow,
and Gorilla says there's no way one ref

3007
03:40:46.920 --> 03:40:48.319
will maintain order in this lineup.
Okay, well just fuck it then,

3008
03:40:48.520 --> 03:40:54.639
you know, yeah exactly, ref
Santos counting out all three Samoans until Samu

3009
03:40:54.200 --> 03:41:00.639
is in there. Uh. Monsoon
calls out Atlas and his new red,

3010
03:41:00.719 --> 03:41:05.719
white and blue tights. So everyone's
trying to get in the s a action.

3011
03:41:05.559 --> 03:41:09.760
Monsoon asks, I think Andre got
any champagne before they get to the

3012
03:41:09.840 --> 03:41:13.399
ring, And yes, they say
no, but they'll sure he'll have some

3013
03:41:13.559 --> 03:41:16.879
later. I bet he will.
They talk about he had some, or

3014
03:41:16.399 --> 03:41:20.639
he had some during he has he
do he has some right now? I

3015
03:41:20.719 --> 03:41:22.600
bet you. And they talk about
Andre traveling three hundred and seven days a

3016
03:41:22.680 --> 03:41:28.280
year on an airplane. Well when
did he wrestle? Exactly? Atlas and

3017
03:41:28.280 --> 03:41:31.319
Samu start off the matchup they talk
about coming up every twentieth Doctor d David

3018
03:41:31.360 --> 03:41:35.639
Schultz comes to the Garden for the
first time with Piper to team up against

3019
03:41:35.639 --> 03:41:39.120
the invaders, Atlas with a crossbody
on Samu for two tight shots of off

3020
03:41:39.159 --> 03:41:43.840
his mug. Of course, of
course you gotta have offer. Monsoon asks,

3021
03:41:43.840 --> 03:41:46.040
how would you like to meet that
in a dark alley or any alley

3022
03:41:46.120 --> 03:41:48.719
for that matter. To the corner. Andre puts his hand up, but

3023
03:41:48.760 --> 03:41:52.600
they tag Rocky inside of Ali.
Honestly, you fucking take our you know,

3024
03:41:52.680 --> 03:41:56.079
it could be could be Vegas,
you know, in broad daylight.

3025
03:41:56.760 --> 03:42:01.840
That's even more terrifying somehow, liking
a shadow by hind like a casino where

3026
03:42:01.879 --> 03:42:05.200
no one goes out back like where
the loading dock is a looking at you.

3027
03:42:07.040 --> 03:42:09.040
Then Andre gets a chop in from
the apron criss cross, Rocky stops.

3028
03:42:09.120 --> 03:42:13.479
Samu keeps going and gets all pissed
off when he sees Rocky stand there

3029
03:42:13.559 --> 03:42:16.680
chilling, and he keeps hitting the
ropes. That was really funny. Actually

3030
03:42:16.760 --> 03:42:18.399
there was a fight moment cut to
Andre with a smile for the ages on

3031
03:42:18.479 --> 03:42:24.239
that ring apron and those tight shots
were something hilts back. Then Samuela Samuela

3032
03:42:24.079 --> 03:42:28.520
lock up Rocky to the Samoan's corner
ducks and Samu hits Sika by mistake and

3033
03:42:28.600 --> 03:42:31.239
Noga knocker. Samu goes flying.
Yeah, I guess Simoonan's with the hard

3034
03:42:31.280 --> 03:42:35.799
head thing. I guess if you
hit Yeah, if you hit a Samoan

3035
03:42:35.879 --> 03:42:37.680
with a Samoan head, then I
guess it does hurt them. I guess

3036
03:42:37.799 --> 03:42:41.879
it's so stupid. Tony Outlass comes
in and puts h Samu against the ropes

3037
03:42:43.200 --> 03:42:46.959
and then lets him out, and
then uh off A covers the camera lens

3038
03:42:46.040 --> 03:42:50.360
with his hand for some reason,
it's big paw in the frame. Uh

3039
03:42:50.440 --> 03:42:52.360
yeah, you think it was just
fucking with the uh anythink so they're all

3040
03:42:52.399 --> 03:42:56.680
having fun. They know no one
cares about the match. Samu tries to

3041
03:42:56.680 --> 03:42:58.440
full nilson on Tony Atlas, but
Atlas bump butts out of the position.

3042
03:42:58.520 --> 03:43:03.319
Then Andre he shouts and he sends
Samu into Andre's fist and then tags him

3043
03:43:03.319 --> 03:43:07.040
in. Andre and the Blue tights
and boots. Era comes with a whip

3044
03:43:07.079 --> 03:43:09.959
and a drop down and Samu cracks
Andre in the back of the head.

3045
03:43:09.159 --> 03:43:13.319
Andre's falls to a knee, and
then Offa comes in and they both head

3046
03:43:13.360 --> 03:43:16.680
butt the back of Andre's head.
Monsoon calls the refout for doing nothing on

3047
03:43:16.760 --> 03:43:18.959
this double team. Sika gets in
there and they keep headbutting Andre. Suddenly

3048
03:43:18.959 --> 03:43:22.959
he stops selling. He snatches Cicca
smashes him with the head butt of his

3049
03:43:22.040 --> 03:43:26.159
own. Nice tight camera shot of
that. As Sika collapses and Grilla,

3050
03:43:26.200 --> 03:43:30.040
Monsoon says, welcome to the world
of pro wrestling. Andre snatches them nogg

3051
03:43:30.079 --> 03:43:33.159
and knocker. Samu whipped off big
Boot, so Andre still doing the big

3052
03:43:33.200 --> 03:43:37.040
Boot even though Logan's in down.
Samu goes flying Andre then sits on him

3053
03:43:37.239 --> 03:43:43.920
basically the bootleg drop combination Brother Yeah
Yep, and convulses underneath does a Samu,

3054
03:43:43.040 --> 03:43:46.239
but he gets pinned for the one, the two, and the three.

3055
03:43:46.360 --> 03:43:48.959
Andre the Giant, Rocky Johnson and
Tony Atlas defeed off Asika and Samula

3056
03:43:50.319 --> 03:43:54.959
five minutes and twenty nine seconds to
close out a most historic night at Madison

3057
03:43:54.200 --> 03:43:58.799
Square Garden. Bit of a Pure
six breaks out. Afterwards, Fink scrambles

3058
03:43:58.840 --> 03:44:03.959
in to announce the outcome. There's
a mile pop. They exit take a

3059
03:44:03.000 --> 03:44:07.799
break back. Monsoon, wrapping up, talks about an unbelievable night history once

3060
03:44:07.799 --> 03:44:09.760
again made as Hulk Cogan strips the
iron cheek of the title. They show

3061
03:44:09.799 --> 03:44:13.239
the fans filing out of the building
and you can see the red seats that

3062
03:44:13.280 --> 03:44:16.559
they were sitting in. Patterson says, I will never forget that night of

3063
03:44:16.559 --> 03:44:18.879
wrestling. I've seen a lot in
my mind, but I will never forget

3064
03:44:18.959 --> 03:44:20.600
that one. Lights go up in
the garden. You can see all the

3065
03:44:20.680 --> 03:44:24.959
seats now, and Monsoon says,
he came in here so fired up that

3066
03:44:24.159 --> 03:44:28.319
three hundred and five pounds of fury
turned loose. No stopping him. He

3067
03:44:28.399 --> 03:44:31.360
was like a bull in a China
closet, and he showed that phenomenal power

3068
03:44:31.399 --> 03:44:33.079
he has getting up out of the
camel clutch. It's just too much tonight

3069
03:44:33.360 --> 03:44:37.959
for the iron cheek, as Pat
Patterson says January twenty third, nineteen eighty

3070
03:44:37.000 --> 03:44:41.239
three, is that I'll never forget. Yeah, as in ninety eighty four,

3071
03:44:41.319 --> 03:44:46.879
of course, but Monsoon says well, Pat nineteen eighty four has brought

3072
03:44:46.000 --> 03:44:50.520
fantastic things the way professional wrestling,
and the best is being brought to you

3073
03:44:50.600 --> 03:44:54.879
here by the World Wrestling Federation.
Well, folks, that wraps it up

3074
03:44:54.920 --> 03:44:58.200
for tonight. Klang Klang Klang.
Hit that music, yep, and it

3075
03:44:58.319 --> 03:45:01.120
ends with a still shot of Hogan
and it moves as Hogan rises in the

3076
03:45:01.200 --> 03:45:05.680
camel clutch and registers the victory.
We get a nice honor roll of people

3077
03:45:05.760 --> 03:45:15.239
involved in producing the show, not
the least of which was a mention of

3078
03:45:15.319 --> 03:45:20.680
the folks that they used to basically
produce the whole thing. What was the

3079
03:45:20.799 --> 03:45:26.120
name of that company? CORPYATD for
Madison Square Garden and the Hughes Television Network.

3080
03:45:26.159 --> 03:45:30.799
This has been a presentation of Madison
Square Garden Productions Incorporated over Madison Square

3081
03:45:30.879 --> 03:45:37.120
Garden cable vision through the facilities of
the Hues Television Network. And they replay

3082
03:45:37.159 --> 03:45:41.079
the finish to music and fade out
as Hulk clutches that pin to launch hull

3083
03:45:41.120 --> 03:45:48.079
Comania into the stratosphere. Boss.
We close with a look at what this

3084
03:45:48.280 --> 03:45:52.840
victory said in motion from a merchandising
perspective. Shortly after this, the WWF

3085
03:45:52.879 --> 03:45:56.799
had a deal with Bantam Books where
they came out with these basically these photo

3086
03:45:56.879 --> 03:46:01.440
books. I can just picture salivating
over. This is a stocking stuffer as

3087
03:46:01.440 --> 03:46:05.600
a child, for instance, and
it just features an essay by a quick

3088
03:46:05.639 --> 03:46:09.719
short essay by Hulk Hogan and a
quick synopsis of what led up to this

3089
03:46:09.840 --> 03:46:13.000
moment that we've spent all this time
talking about here in the lapsed fan forty

3090
03:46:13.079 --> 03:46:16.159
years later, and I wish we
could ride off into Hulkymania by you reading

3091
03:46:16.200 --> 03:46:22.559
from Hulkamania, the Official Biography of
Hulk Hogan. The World of the Entertainment

3092
03:46:22.600 --> 03:46:26.680
presents hull Camania, The Official Biography
of Hulk Hogan, lavishly illustrated throughout,

3093
03:46:26.920 --> 03:46:37.440
includes an exclusive introduction by Hulk Hogan, Hulkomania man and I'm sorry, photographs

3094
03:46:37.479 --> 03:46:45.479
by wait a minute, uh,
photographs by Steve Taylor, and who handed

3095
03:46:45.520 --> 03:46:52.239
Hulk the business card in the awa? Is the Steve Taylor correct? Oh?

3096
03:46:52.280 --> 03:46:58.680
And look the Abantam Books has has
offices and awkward just for Tony Garia.

3097
03:47:00.399 --> 03:47:05.719
How's that so nice? Hulkamania,
man, it's the greatest. Hok

3098
03:47:05.719 --> 03:47:11.000
Comedia is something special. There's nothing
like it. It's all of us together.

3099
03:47:11.559 --> 03:47:15.520
You know, we all share in
ho comania excitement. We made Hokomania.

3100
03:47:15.920 --> 03:47:20.239
Without you fans, there wouldn't be
any whole Comania. When ho Comania

3101
03:47:20.319 --> 03:47:22.959
takes hold. Jesus fucking Christ,
how many times you get effe I can

3102
03:47:24.000 --> 03:47:26.559
say Hullkomania. When hok Comania takes
hold. I got all fired up,

3103
03:47:26.959 --> 03:47:31.120
super charged man, ready for anything. Hulkamania has helped me in the ring.

3104
03:47:31.440 --> 03:47:35.520
It's my support. It gives me
extra power, it makes me want

3105
03:47:35.600 --> 03:47:41.040
to win for everybody behind me.
The hulk Comania spirit. Man, We've

3106
03:47:41.159 --> 03:47:45.520
got it and we'll keep it.
This book is dedicated to the true spirit

3107
03:47:45.559 --> 03:47:48.559
of hul Comania. Sure there are
other books around that claim to me about

3108
03:47:48.680 --> 03:47:52.719
me and hull Comania, but this
is the only one that has my approval

3109
03:47:52.959 --> 03:47:56.840
and the official stamp of the Worldless
and Entertainment, So it's the only one

3110
03:47:56.879 --> 03:48:03.760
that really is part of Hulkamania.
Over closely with the editors to make sure

3111
03:48:03.799 --> 03:48:11.280
that this book gets everybody into Hulkamania
sounds like a cult. That's a good

3112
03:48:11.319 --> 03:48:16.760
point. It's got the whole comedia
excitement in words and pictures. It's like

3113
03:48:16.920 --> 03:48:22.920
me, honest and American maid.
I wanted to bring I wanted it to

3114
03:48:22.000 --> 03:48:26.600
bring me and hulk Comania alive,
and it does. Man, I can

3115
03:48:26.719 --> 03:48:30.479
vouch for that. You've got the
word of the Hulkster. That's not all,

3116
03:48:31.079 --> 03:48:33.719
since we're all part of Hulkamania.
The book's really about all of us

3117
03:48:35.000 --> 03:48:37.920
and how we got it a along. It's been a great time. You've

3118
03:48:37.959 --> 03:48:41.159
been with me all the way.
You never let me down. Man,

3119
03:48:41.159 --> 03:48:46.200
I'm thinking about it gets me so
excited, so high I want to explode.

3120
03:48:46.639 --> 03:48:50.120
It gets me stirred up like a
tiger. Uk Comedia pumps me up,

3121
03:48:50.559 --> 03:48:54.319
gets me going, you know,
it makes me feel indestructible. I

3122
03:48:54.440 --> 03:48:58.600
need that fired up feeling in the
ring. That's because the competition in the

3123
03:48:58.639 --> 03:49:01.879
world of sting entertainment the best,
the toughest, the most skilled anywhere.

3124
03:49:03.239 --> 03:49:05.680
I'm between the ropes with some of
the finest athletes in the world, so

3125
03:49:05.840 --> 03:49:09.840
I've always got to be at my
best. I'm going to train hard,

3126
03:49:09.719 --> 03:49:13.520
stay my toes, I keep my
guard up and most of all, keep

3127
03:49:13.600 --> 03:49:18.520
the faith with all of you fans. That's why whul Camania is so important

3128
03:49:18.520 --> 03:49:22.200
to me. As you read this
book and look at the photographs, you'll

3129
03:49:22.239 --> 03:49:26.600
follow my career in the ring.
You'll see how Hulcomania started and built up

3130
03:49:26.639 --> 03:49:31.520
to what it is today. All
the photographs are official Worldlessly Entertainment. No

3131
03:49:31.680 --> 03:49:35.360
other book has them. And I'm
sure that the book tells my story straight.

3132
03:49:35.680 --> 03:49:37.920
It's accurate, man, the way
I wanted it to be. There's

3133
03:49:37.959 --> 03:49:43.879
been some great times, moments all
remember, like WrestleMania and breaking the Camel

3134
03:49:43.959 --> 03:49:46.440
clutch and taking the belt from the
Iron Chic. You may not like him,

3135
03:49:46.440 --> 03:49:50.120
but he's a great wrestler. And
then they're all my friends, my

3136
03:49:50.280 --> 03:49:54.079
brothers and sisters in the Ring,
Cindy Lauper, Wendy Richer, Superfly,

3137
03:49:54.280 --> 03:50:00.959
Jimmy Snooka, Mister t and Captain
and Captain Elis Albano brother. We've were

3138
03:50:01.120 --> 03:50:05.559
together forever because we're all so close
in hulll co Mania. I wanted you

3139
03:50:05.639 --> 03:50:07.920
to know how I feel about it, what I think. I want to

3140
03:50:09.040 --> 03:50:11.159
let you into my head, my
heart, how I go to the top

3141
03:50:11.239 --> 03:50:15.799
of the World's Thing entertainment. Championship, how I go to the top,

3142
03:50:16.040 --> 03:50:20.200
and what the World sing Entertainment Championship
bell means to me. I've shared my

3143
03:50:20.319 --> 03:50:22.520
thoughts with the editors that they could
share them with you. I wouldn't do

3144
03:50:22.600 --> 03:50:28.040
it for anything but a book authorized
by the world's entertainment. It's the only

3145
03:50:28.120 --> 03:50:31.920
way to tell a story of Hulk
Hogan. I want everybody to know what

3146
03:50:33.120 --> 03:50:37.000
we stand for. The power of
hul Comania. Let's go for it,

3147
03:50:37.319 --> 03:50:43.280
Jesus Christ, that is what ended
up happening Hulk Hogan. They went for

3148
03:50:43.440 --> 03:50:48.520
it, and they started January twenty
third, nineteen eighty four, forty years

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ago, a very fitting tribute to
a very special night and one that I

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don't know kind of us put our
asses in the seats we're sitting in right

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now, I would, for sure, so would that documented it on the

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shelf. Let's go forward and we'll
see you next time on that fucking cast.