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Welcome to softcore History. Welcome back
to softcore History. I'm your host for

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the week, Dan d Chester,
and I am joined as always by Jagleman.

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Hey you and Rob Fox. Now, when did you take your vows?

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Yeah? The last time you just
looked different. Oh, I forgot

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to tell you about this. Twenty
nineteen. You took your vowels in twenty

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nineteen. Yeah, you know,
it was a dark year when I entered

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the priesthood. Yeah, you went
to the fucking what do you call it?

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That cemetery? Cemetery. He actually
thought he was getting on the scholastic

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school seminary. Fuck, yeah,
seminary seminary. I knew you had it

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memory what it used to be.
He thought he was getting on the scholastic

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school bus, but it was the
monastics school bus. Four years later,

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we have Monk Dan. I was
thinking about this the other day. I'll

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have to look up what the name
of the book was. But I bought

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this Civil War book, like a
historical fiction novel about this kid who fights

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for the Confederacy in the Civil War. And it's like I read this when

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maybe in like third grade, and
like there's like a guy gets shot in

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the stomach, he's like his friend
and is like bleeding out in horrible that

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book. It took place at the
Battle of Shiloh. Yeah, both have

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read this book. Yeah, Johnny
Tremaine was in the Revolutionary War. I

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also read that What Happened to Your
Hand? Johnny read a lot of alien

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weird books when I was a kid. Of course, you did board in

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the Dinosaurs. I was reading not
Surprise you really. I tell my wife

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all the time. I'm like,
here's what our kid is not going to

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be into cars and dinosaurs because that's
what idiots are into. Cool. I

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was into egypt military men. Call
me idiot all you want, I can

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beat your ass. Yeah. Yeah, that's what that idiot's like. Okay,

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all right, well, speaking of
idiots, this week, I got

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my subject matter from a video game. No way crazy weird. For all

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of you that don't know, Dan
is a fervent ass Creed fan. Big

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ass Creed guy. Yeah, big
ass Creed guy. He's dressed if I

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guess, if you're listening along,
we didn't really know this, but he's

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dressed as a monk. I was
looking for more of a tunic, but

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I couldn't find it a party city, so you went to party City today

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together, Man, I bet there
was fucking I bet there was deals November

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three whatever. I got this on
like a thirty percent discount. Yeah,

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yeah, he easily fucking deals.
You probably could have haggled at party City,

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but no, ended up with a
monk outfit, which still kind of

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works because, as we'll get into
it, these are, of course people

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that would be deceptive monks. Yeah, all monks. All monks are monks

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priests. But first let's do some
house cleaning. Patreon dot com slash softcore

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History two additional episodes every week,
one of which I did two weeks ago

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on the siege of Baghdad, and
we actually briefly discussed the order of the

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assassins we did with the Mongols,
just kind of running train. Yeah,

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the Mongols, it was like a
speed bump on the way to bag Dad.

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For them, it was yeah,
just like, oh what was that?

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So for the main episode, the
Day, I'm gonna dig a little

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deeper into that order of assassins.
But of course, Patreon dot com slash

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of content. Make sure to do
that. Rob what are you doing right

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now? I'm just trying to find
that book. I'm obsessed with it now,

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like I'm on a mission. We've
moved past that so far. You

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can probably stop if you haven't found
it yet. It's over. It actually

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never even happened. I think it
was a fever dream. I was about

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to say, you guys have like
some sort of Mendela effect. Yeah,

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brain going on, because I know
you believe in that Rob Mendela effect.

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Mandela believers you're not wrong. You
slid into a different universe. There's nothing,

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nothing, no stronger of a cognitive
disassociation to that. Like that's what

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this tattoo is. It's like,
no, the entire my entire reality is

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shifted timelines. It doesn't matter which
lighthouse you walk towards, it's always the

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same. Yeah, it must be
way more comforting believing you live in a

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house of mirrors like Christ's like,
oh I think this. It's like it's

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like, not only are you not
wrong, but you're so special slid that

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you can slide universes And it's not
just me. There's a lot of the

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South there. So it's actually,
uh no, actually I'm not mildly embarrassed

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here, I'm actually a god.
What if? What if? What if

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the Rapture actually did happen in two
thousand and like, instead of it being

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Hell and Brimstones, just like you
just got shifted into just a shittier universe

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where it's like, yeah, there's
no cornucopia in the Fruit of the Loom

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logo. Now yeah, sorry,
this is hell God Yeah, awesome.

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Make sure to leave a review again, please, and thank you five stars

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Spotify, Apple. But you know, let's just get to the episode right

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now, get into it. Let's
do this again. This video game Assassin's

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Creed that I've been playing since I
was I don't know, like twelve.

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The first came out when I was
in college, so I was in high

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school. Yeah, it is all
kind of based around this real life order

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of assassins. Is this the one
that the word assassin comes from? The

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hushy sine or whatever. Yeah,
it's because they smoke cash and kill people.

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Yeah kind of cool. Yeah,
kind of cool when it spoil the

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episode up? How is that spoiling
it? It's a big part of like

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later down the line, So the
word assassin actually comes from man or men

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who smoke hashish yeah, yeah,
hussa song. That's just like a fun

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trivia question. Yeah it is.
But you know you can stomp all my

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episode. All right, I'm sorry, I just flex I'm just trying to

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flexic. I couldn't remember Sabinaria I
had to get, and I couldn't remember

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the book I had to Yeah.
Man, I'm glad you pulled out a

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win. Yeah yeah. But also
I am a god whose lives to bechets

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some of course. Now this order
kind of originates from the Nazaris, who

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in six thirty two a d.
There was obviously that original schism over who

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should succeed the prophet Muhammad. This
split the Muslim community into Shiites and Sunnis,

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Nepo babies and merit and crimes yeah
yeah yeah, and socialists, yeah,

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meritocracy and nepos. Yeah yeah.
Then in the ninth century, another

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disagreement over leadership arose among the Shiites. Followers of a leader named Ismael broke

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off into their own sect. This
male's in ten ninety five in his Melee

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prince name Nazar was in line to
rule Cairo in Egypt when he's passed over

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in fIF favor of his younger brother
Niser, briefly seized enruled Alexandria, but

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was soon executed after executed secretly,
no, okay, publicly, I imagine

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very publicly. I don't know if
it was like a trial or like a

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sat hashishanated. This is the group
that dedicates themselves to which we will now

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find out. This man that was
executed, Okay, so he was not

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assassinated himself, but the Order of
the Assassins are all kind of based off

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this man's followers. Okay. So
they were like, we love this guy,

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let's make a secret society so drug
using murderers. They loved him so

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much they had to smoke hash and
kill Yeah, in his name, man,

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we'll get to it. All we
do is drink bread and wine and

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in our God's name. Yeah,
it's really dumb. Yeah, doing hard

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drugs and murdering. Yeah. His
followers fled to Persia, where they found

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their own branch of Ismailism and established
their own line of succession. Male missionary

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Hassan Sabah became the leader of the
Order of Assassins. Nice. So this

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dude, Hassan is kind of the
key figure here. And what year is

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it? He said, ten nineties? This was after to us. So

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Nazer was executed in ten ninety five. Okay, so this is all gonna

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be kind of early twelfth century.
Yeah, okay, so we're ride around

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the First Crusade too, right,
Oh, there's a bunch of crusades going

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on. Yeah. Yeah. Hassan
was a deeply controversial figure, portrayed as

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both a devout religious scholar and the
father of modern terrorism. Oh damn.

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So the assassins kind of started the
whole thing. A lot of people compare

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the order of the assassins to uh, like ground floor isis or oh yeah,

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like al Qaeda, so not very
organized. I kind of feel like

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this guy is definitely not the father
of terrorism. I feel like terrorism is

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old as humanity itself, unless unless
they're talking about like guerrilla terrorism. I

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think that's what they mean, because
like Likerilla, like his war is war,

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not terrorism, Like, but you
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to get accomplished political goals. Right, so you go, right, like

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people have been been doing that thousands
of years before. Fucking yeah, that's

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true. But I think there is
something like there's something about it where it's

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like not a cavalry coming through and
like raiding a town. Yeah, yeah,

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they didn't have enough man for that. Yeah. Yeah, so this

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is yeah, it's like it's like
isis it's like sleepers. They have pickup

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trucks. No pickup trucks, no
talk. Unfortunately, now Hassan, under

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his leadership, the Assassins grew into
influential religious and political power. In the

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process, they at leashed a wave
of murder that terrorized the Middle East for

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centuries. So they really go,
they're bucking from like eleven hundred to thirteen

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hundred. It's a good run.
It's a good two hundred year run.

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Yeah. Anyone that oh about to
ask how big is the actual group?

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Do they ever get like a number
count? No, But eventually it's like

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fifty remote locations that like fifty bases, so somewhere around a couple hundred to

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one thousand, couple thousand people.
Okay, but so like not giant armies.

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Yeah. Just then you say that, well, I guess bag Dad's

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already sacked at this point. But
the population of Bagdad was con sacked.

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This is pre sacked. This is
pre sacked. Oh right, right,

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right right, And but the population
of it was like a million or something.

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Wasn't it. Yeah, Oh we
did that some disjustice, I guess

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on the show too. It would
have been like Bagdad being sacked. Then

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what was the thing you sent?
It was like New York City, La

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San Francisco, Tokyo, any major
city you think of now like combined it.

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Yeah, just being wiped off the
map. Yeah, like every cultural

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epicenter gone, like as far as
like statistically with the percentage of the population

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in the Earth compared to the one
city. So it's just like some Russian

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spilling coffee on the nuke button and
everything launching. Yeah, the cities they're

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still aimed at exactly. So Hassan
would take any of his recruits under his

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wing two nights in the garden.
This is how he kind of locked guys

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down. A lot of kids from
like twelve to twenty. He would find

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either on the streets or you know, if they didn't really have anything going

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on, take them on. This
guy's a father of terrorism. Yeah,

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take him under his utilage. And
it was a big fan of using opium.

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Oh that's strong hoods. Well,
there is hash, but opium are

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for the recruitment nights. Oh that's
like midnight huh. Yeah, So you

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go to the garden with the san
he gets you high on opium. He

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brings in some ladies. You think
he's out there, like, hey,

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it's opium night with the brothers with
the assassins. Come out in the garden,

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Pledge pinning night. You get it. They get you a nice bottle.

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Yeah, right, they're bringing out
the Tito's or the fucking like something

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with a name brand bullet. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like

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yeah, and the rest of the
rest of the semester, it's fucking it's

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forced down your throat and it's well. Yeah, So you're getting sucked up

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on opium. You're hooking up with
probably some prostitutes, some ladies of the

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night, you know, also orphans. You're like, oh, I remember

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you from the alley. You're prostitute
here. Now I'm a murderer here.

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Now, Oh my god, look
how far we've come. Look at us.

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We did it. Look at us. And this is kind of what

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he describes as like a sliver of
heaven, the eventual goal. This is

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like I can open it up for
certain nights and then when you die,

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this is your reward. This is
what you'll kind of come in every night.

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So this is the the origin of
the origins. Yeah, Like he's

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like, I'm gonna show you just
here one two virgins. Imagine this.

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They're definitely vergins. Yeah yeah,
but I imagine if they were right,

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So imagine if they were and there
were seventy more. Yeah, like imagine

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these chicks fucking you. But there
were virgins, So they're much worse at

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it. Yeah, and there's seventy
of the And but you never not you

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never nuh But I mean, you're
twelve years old, some got old man

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in the mountain brings you in to
his garden. Oh, and you have

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nothing going for you, You're just
a street kid. Especially, this sounds

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this just sounds like Jared Letto's house. Yeah. Unsurprisingly, they were painted

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as heretics. The Nazari were hated
by both the Shiai and Sunni Muslims alike.

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They were constantly outnumbered and surrounded by
enemies on all sides. The embattled

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Nazari state did what it needed to
survive. You know, I think it

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says a lot about the fact that
they were doing the right thing if they're

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getting hate from all sides, because
like, hey, if you hate me

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so much, why don't you recruit
better, right, they just recruit.

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Well, you know everyone hates recruiters. Oh they do this all they do

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up in the bag. Oh they're
both giving them opio yeah bag, but

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yeah, why don't you give them
opium night, Maybe you'd be better at

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recruiting. The sect created strongholds in
the mountains of Persia and Syria and trained

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a select group of fighters. For
those who sacrifice themselves, the foota Yin

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were known both for their devotion and
their deadliness. According to some accounts,

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Hassan would ask certain recruits to take
a leap of faith, jumping off high

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platforms or cliffs to their death to
test their devotion. Well, they would

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die, they would die. That
seems like a bad recruitment. Yeah,

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I don't know that that is.
That's certain. There must have been like

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a amount of time with him.
I was about to say, there must

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be like some sort of performance tests
he's doing ahead of time where it's like,

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okay, well these guys are going
cliff cliffs, the leap guy.

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Yeah, this guy, he's good. Put him in the assassin training.

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So this is directly in the video
game now where you jump into it like

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a haystack. Yeah, yeah,
or a thing of flowers didn't in real

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life, he died. He just
died. He just died. Cool.

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But he just wanted to show the
kind of power he had over his recruits.

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Wow, and his men. That's
great. It seems like a really

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piss poor way. If I say
jump, you say how high? You

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say how how how far down?
How far down? You want me to

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take a gainer right now? Oh? Yeah. So Hazan realized he couldn't

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just hold up in caves and the
mountains and grows fallen, so he focused

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on capturing the fortress Alamut in current
day, I ran, okay, get

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your fortune, so that he could
just kind of like hold up in there.

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Yeah, worst case, because the
fortress Alamut was isolated and virtually impregnable

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to outside forces, and it's two
then two hundred year of existence, it

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had never fallen. Unfortunately, at
this time it was already occupied by the

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enemies, the Sologoic Turks. Celdic, I think solojok celijk all right,

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either way, the Turks, Yeah, them Turks, the solo jokes.

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Hassan spent the next two years infiltrating
his followers into Alamont. His followers went

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deep undercover working in the surrounding town
and even got jobs inside the fortress.

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They slowly converted the majority of inhabitants
to follow Hassan, and once it was

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realized that he had the majority of
the castle under his wing, he smuggled

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himself inside and offered to purchase the
castle from its owner. That's a nice

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bargain. We can make you an
off, you can ref you. It's

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like fucking mow Green. Yeah,
because everyone around once he gets in there,

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Yeah, he's like, you know, everyone here works for me.

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Uh. If you don't believe me, hey you uh jump off that cliff.

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See they all they they will do
it. Yeah. It seems like

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a common theme with the last couple
episodes two of Up. I'm gonna offer

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you something. You really should take
it. You should probably take it.

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Take it. It'd be funny.
What the guy should it had done has

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been like, all right, if
they're so devoted to you have have one

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of you guys jump up a cliff
like you say you can. And then

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he does it, and he's like
do another and just keep going until he

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stopped. Just gotta you know,
now you heard a little way. It's

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like a pile of bodies. It's
like, uh, one more. Yeah,

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I don't believe you. I'm not
buying this. Unsurprisingly, the official

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took the offer. Oh he did. Yeah, that was good for him.

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Got a nice little bag of gold
on his way out. Did he

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was fine. Nothing happened to nothing
happened. That guy was smart. Yeah,

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yeah, you know, we were
saying, like, oh, on

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the last one, that guy,
you don't know what you had to do

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or whatever. This guy had the
same situation. He's like playing chess and

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then like but at the end of
like at the end of chess, if

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you get checkmated, you can either
shake the person's hand and go on about

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your life or deny that you're in
checkmate and they get to shoot you in

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the face with a gun. It's
just a pistol. But if you live,

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if you live, then you win. The assassins carried out surgical strikes

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against selected political targets. They trained
to infiltrate, kill, and submit to

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torture and death if necessary. The
medieval faction typically acted in self defense,

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attacked only political and military figures,
but not the larger population. So like

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in the professional no women nook kids. In military and politics, that's it.

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Yeah, I mean that makes sense. Those are the only people that

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have power. Yeah, in the
video games, it's more for the greater

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good that they commit these acts,
right right, assassins. I'm sure they

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want you to want to play the
character in the game, you know,

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But for this, it's more just
self preservation. It's not necessarily for the

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greater good. It's just like,
hey, there are a threat to us.

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We gotta take them out. There's
some politician in town being like,

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why are we letting assassins live in
a fort outside of town? Hey,

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hey, we should get that guy. Yeah him, he needs to go

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for sure. Too many. That's
a great question. Hey, all these

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guys out here doing cartwheels and smoking
hash and murdering captains. Yeah, and

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they keep abjucting street girls out of
the alleys and making them whores and then

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and then street boys and turning them
into it. I mean, it's just

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and there's drugs everywhere, opium.
It's just cartwheels and prostitutes and opium.

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Guys. I'm just saying, yeah, I'm just saying, it's weird that

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guy's dead the next day, so
dead. At times they wouldn't even need

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to kill though, They simply would
break into a target's chamber, leave a

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dagger through a note next to their
bed with message that read, next time

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this goes through your heart. Did
they invent that? They invent the dagger

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note? Yeah, they I think
they are. That's the precursor to the

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bullet on the front step. Yeah. Yeah. It's a nice power play

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though, which is good. I
was next to you, you were asleep.

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That is scary. Yeah. If
couple a knife and a nope,

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I'm leaving town. Yeah, I'm
done. Yeah. I wonder if he

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ever like told them to The leader
was like, man, and just so

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you know, like if you do
get caught and tortured at every like hour,

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you don't say anything, and like
however bad it is, and it's

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just like Heaven's gonna be so much
more rad for you. Yeah, Like

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you're gonna have such a better heaven
than the other guys, Like eighty two

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virgins every hour, every hour,
it's ten more yeah. Stack. The

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Assassins would branch out from Alamut and
form over fifty bases of operation through the

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Middle East. They constantly came at
odds with the soul Juncks. The fortress

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of Shadiz in the modern Iranian providence
of Isfahana or Isfahan was a good example

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of the back and forth struggle.
After successfully converting many of the surrounding towns,

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the assassins seized the fortress and eleven
huns. It remained under their control

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for seven years, during which time
the is mally converts and the region suffered

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under a withern brage of Turkish attacks. So as soon as they get in

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that fortress, they're just getting got
by Turks. Different fourth though, oh

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oh, they took another one.
It's a different forta at least are different

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Turks. So they're trying to branch
out from alamat Alama. At this point

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is just like nobody can go there. Okay, you're not gonna take it.

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You're never gonna take it. Yeah, there's one way in. There's

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so many choke points. There's a
bunch of assassin I get. I mean,

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your best case scenario would just be
starving it out. But those fortues,

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I mean, you're gonna have to
have your army sit there for like

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five years. It's basically, yeah, it's a it's a beehive. Basically,

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you can't go in there. Celtics, by the way, should be

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noted different than automans. Ah,
different Turks. Okay, you know.

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Eleven oh seven, Sultan Muhammad tap
Are launched a concerted effort against is Molly

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strongholds in his territory. The Sultan
personally led a massive force against Shadiz and

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slaughtered the entire garrison. The local
leader of the assassins was skinned alive and

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his head preserved as a grizzly trophy
of the Sultan's victory. Oh they were

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flying. Yeah, man, it's
like it's nice, you know, like

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when you just do the hits.
Yeah, like the standards, you know,

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it's like play the hits, the
flas Yeah, take his head off.

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Yeah, hey man, you flying
flame like a champ. In the

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very same year, they had a
bit of a heat check. Oh well,

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the soul jacks that is. Oh. They made another effort to destroy

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the heart of the assassin powered Oulamut, But like I said, it's pretty

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impregnable. Yeah. Yeah. This
time they sent an army bent on vengeance,

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led by the son of murdered Nazim
al Mulk. Another siege unfolded,

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during which many Ismali's in the surrounding
area were killed. The assassins once again

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managed to break the siege, but
the sultan refused to quit. He sent

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a third army to all of in
eleven o nine. I mean, you

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know, that's just he's a sultan. Yeah, but never here's no yeah

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that and we're getting into sunk cost
fallacies. Yeah yeah, this time the

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siege would last eight years geez,
and devastate the entire region around the fortress.

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You know, sometimes I kind of
think a siege might be good for

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an economy, you know, like, but they're just probably stealing everything,

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So a siege would be good for
the economy outside of the place being sieged.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, siege
no, but yeah, but everything

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else. You know, you gotta
the ring around it. People got to

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grow more food, all this stuff. Also, I'm looking at pictures of

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this and it's just like they just
live on a mountaintop. Oh well that

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makes it difficult. Like it's just
I don't even understand how this was occupied.

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What is it in gammon Thron's veil? Yeah, the veil, Yeah,

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it's it's kind of similar to that. If I was to guess where

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they got their inspiration from, it's
probably this. I'm oh my god,

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that's the des to this. He's
ridiculous. How does anyone live here?

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It doesn't even look it doesn't look
comfortable. No, it really, it

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really doesn't. I can't really why
do they care at this point, It's

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like if they're stuck there, there's
nothing good there. Well, just as

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they're about to break the assassins year
eight, the Sultan dies and his armies

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recalled. They're just like, yeah, we got better things to do.

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I wouldn't say better, because after
the Sultan dies, the soljier Umpire falls

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in the civil war, So they
got to take care of their own,

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right. Yeah, It's like,
we wasted a lot of resources on this,

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like big fucking skycastle full of assassins
for some reason. So they rebuilt

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their fortress with the army, gone
open trade relations with nearby powers, and

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even started to tax the territory under
their control. Yeah okay, so they

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became gangsters, yeah, literal mafia. Yeah, organized crime. I'm sorry,

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because they in a territory they occupied, they took taxes. It makes

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you the mafia, make them the
mafia. What's the difference between that and

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the just ruling government? You know
what? You fucking communists? I'm just

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wait, I'm sorry. Me saying, oh, yeah, you're right.

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You know what, you fucking an
arco capitalist. Yeah, get your fucking

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shit right you Yeah, it's okay. Hassan, the father of the Assassins,

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died peacefully in eleven twenty four.
Of course you did. At Alamut

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died in his castle. That's great, Good for you, Hassan. He

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was followed by a succession of leaders
as the Assassins continued to expand throughout the

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Middle East. Outside of Alamutt,
the greatest center of the Assassin's power was

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in Syria. Yeah, okay.
It was there that the Assassins encountered the

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Crusadan armies of the Christian West.
Were they like an Antioch or something or

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they had bases all up? Yeah, it's probably all around. They're running

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into these folks. They didn't really
have like a central I don't think location

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in Syria, okay. The bizarre
relationship between the Crusaders and Assassins is perhaps

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best exemplified by the alternated friendship and
animosity between the two. Because the Syrian

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Assassins and the Knights Templar were kind
of cut from the same cloth, they

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sound very similar. What did the
Knights Templar get high on Opium and bang

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Horse. Nope, they were both
religiously devoted, They had an inclination for

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violence and extreme secrecy, and both
believe that death in battle led to rewards

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in the afterlife. Oh okay,
isn't actually the Knights Templar the bad guys

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in the first Assassin's creed in all
the assassins creage kind of? Oh okay,

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that's like one of the three lines, like how it's always Gannendorf.

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But they're kind of from our research, they're a little bit more homies than

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enemies for the most part. Yeah, because they're all they're both going against

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the same like kind of Muslim enemies
the same Yeah, like powers in the

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area. Yeah, because they're not
Sunni or she. They're their own,

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their own thing. Yeah, that
actually makes sense. So the many similarities

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spawned a number of wild theories about
the exact nature of the relationship between the

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two groups. Some historians have even
suggested the Templar rule was derived from the

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Assassins, and that their exposure to
the sect was the reason behind the later

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charges of heresy against the Templars.
Oh for them doing their weird shit underground.

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Yeah. So remember we've talked about
this in like previous episodes with the

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Templars, how they I think the
Pope just excommunicated all them. Yeah,

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it's because they were hiding the Holy
Grail and the truth about Jesus bloodline.

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Oh. I think it was just
because they associated with this group. Yeah.

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No, I definitely, it definitely
was not the plot da Vinci code.

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Oh I let's say it's not a
damn brown book. Yeah yeah,

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no, yeah, Okay. However, not always peaceful between the Templars and

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the Assassins. The Assassins turned on
their former allies, uh and murdered Count

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Raymond, the third of Tripoli,
a prominent leader of the Crusaders. Oh.

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I can't even trust an assassin?
Can you trust? These days?

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It's just used to be honest work. It used to be people used to

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be, Yeah, the people used
to have honor. People definitely weren't always

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stabbing each other in the back.
I don't know what ten year window of

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earth people were like. It used
to mean something, Yeah, never did.

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It's always been violent. Yeah,
it's always been absolutely cutthroat. Yeah,

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it's this is the most rules we've
ever had. Yeah, it's a

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mostly blood and ship wall in a
wall. I don't know what to tell

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you. Man. Yeah, it
used to be man, used to be

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a murderer. You put in the
ground and it grew a thing back when

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men were men. He's like stealing
boys and giving them child whose It's like,

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that's a man getting hooked on drugs. It's like, that's a that's

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a man, not like today with
all the kids on drugs. Same as

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it ever was. Yeah, damn
it can't. Perhaps their most famous target

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was the Crusade leader Conrad of You're
gonna have to correct me on this.

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Monte Ferret can't. I'll probably have
to read it. I can't, just

402
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Mont Ferret, Yeah, why not? All right? Sure, if it's

403
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:38,759
French, it's probably who was intercepted
as he walked home from dinner with a

404
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:45,480
bishop in the city of Tyree in
modern day living on tire actually tire,

405
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,640
Yeah, okay, and stad to
death just days before he was scheduled to

406
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,920
be crowned King of Jerusalem in April
of eleven ninety two. Oh that's not

407
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,839
a good. That's not good.
It's funny to me though, that,

408
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,599
Like, was he just at a
restaurant? I guess eleven ninety two just

409
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,880
like going out with this boy.
Yeah, with his bishops like chilling.

410
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:11,519
Yeah, what was like a deli
you're getting? Like do you think that

411
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,240
a street cart back then? The
kebab krt? Yeah, that's definitely they

412
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:18,400
probably did. Yeah, they probably
had street vendors selling foods. Yeah,

413
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,960
yeah, this is how they did
it. They were disguised as monks.

414
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,160
Oh sick, and they murdered the
future king of Jerusalem. Did you pat

415
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:32,960
him down before when he was when
he came in in this shook his penis

416
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,680
as his tradition. Yeah, that's
how we greet each do anything else.

417
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:40,440
Yeah, that's actually that reminds me
of that scene in Munich where they shook

418
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920
each other's penises. Yeah, yeah, good scene. Different film than what

419
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,920
ipp oh that Munich right right,
which seen to me. Both they shout,

420
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:52,039
like all the massad dudes like walk
up, dress his chicks to the

421
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:56,480
I think Palestinian, uh fucking guard
post or whatever, and then just like

422
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,960
whip out their I don't know uzzi's
or whatever the zis. Yeah. Now

423
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:07,960
many believe they were acting as killers
for hire. For one, this is

424
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:14,200
a name you'll you'll know, Richard
the Lionheart. Whoa So they had some

425
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:21,240
like I guess some like diversion in
political suspicion, Like they were like people,

426
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:22,920
they were doing it for their own
reason. But people are like,

427
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,039
oh, that might have been Richard
the lion's heart. But also sometimes you

428
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:30,079
gotta pay to play, like we
need to make some money. Richard Linhart

429
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:32,720
needs to get rid of this feature. King of Jerusalem. Oh you think

430
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:34,880
they took a contract. Yeah,
they were contract killers. Oh okay,

431
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:40,079
why because Richard wanted to be King
of Jerusalem. Richard led the Third Crusade,

432
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,799
which started shortly after uh, not
the Second Crusade in it, but

433
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:52,119
after Jerusalem was retaken. Interesting.
Fuck, I did not know that.

434
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:53,480
That's a twist. It's crazy.
They got all the way down there.

435
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:59,200
How did they fucking get down there? Like, I just how I just

436
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,880
don't understand how land could be occupied
that well back then, I mean,

437
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,279
all you gotta do is keep the
army there. They hold up in castles

438
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:08,440
and yeah, you build fortifications.
Yeah, then you're good to go keep

439
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,799
an eye out. You don't really
need to occupy the surrounding land. Yeah,

440
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:15,559
you just gotta be able to roll
out. Yeah, Like it's not

441
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,799
like uh, you know, you
think about like the US invasion of Iraq,

442
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,559
right, Yeah, we had des
everywhere, right, you know,

443
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,160
like that's what I'm thinking of.
Yeah, yeah, No, so they

444
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,119
just would build like a stab,
they'd establish a settlement or a fortification of

445
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,960
some sort. Yeah, they'd roll
out, collect their taxes and kill you

446
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,920
and if they needed to whatever.
Yeah, that's just crazy though. Still,

447
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000
the sheer amount of like will it
would take to get that done,

448
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,519
it's honestly a pretty impressive undertake.
I mean, when you start talking about

449
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,720
times like this, people are like, oh god, monarchy and stuff,

450
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,119
it's like they fucking earned it,
they are. It's not like it was

451
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,839
easy to do it, right,
Yeah, Like, I mean that's why

452
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,559
it was like that. That's why
it was like that until like what two

453
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,559
hundred fucking years ago, two hundred
and fifty, one hundred, one hundred,

454
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:06,519
like yeah, I mean, oh
no more than hundred's twenty twenty three,

455
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,799
yeah, one hundred and twenty.
Yeah, it's it's we're brand new

456
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:13,880
off that shit. They're one hundred
and twenty years ago. They were absolute

457
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:20,880
monarchs ruling Russia. Nothing's changed there, I suppose uh Germany, uh fucking

458
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:27,359
who has an absolute monarch now?
Probably just Jordan basically. Yeah, I

459
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:30,960
mean it's actually Russia has an autocrat
but not a monarch. Yeah, there's

460
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,319
a there's a lot of places that
have monarchs under the facade of parliament.

461
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,319
Yeah, King Charles. Yeah,
but you know they'd be sick if King

462
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Charles was actually the puppet master just
running everything, or what if he just

463
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,759
like let it charge you, like
I'm taking back my country, dude.

464
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:51,160
Honestly, there would be a not
insignificant amount of people who would be like,

465
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,920
I would guarantee a least I get, I guarantee you at least like

466
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,680
thirty percent. Yep, all for
it. Yep. The assassin's adversaries had

467
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,480
a loss of explaining and their effectiveness
portrayed them as fanatics driven by vision of

468
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:07,960
paradise induced by smoking hashish. Were
they wrong? You know, the truth

469
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:13,440
lies somewhere in the middle. I
feel like if they were walking off a

470
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,920
cliff, and I believe you said
their recruitment night was opium and horse,

471
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000
so I think the middle is dead
center in the middle of that statement,

472
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:30,519
like nailed it. A lot of
this information is kind of secondhand notes,

473
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:36,000
secondhand information from outsiders because and we'll
get to it eventually, but like a

474
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:42,679
lot of their own record keeping was
obviously destroyed by the Mongols. Oh right,

475
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,920
Yeah, and they have like a
really big library in Alamut and they

476
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,920
had a giant amount of like they
were pretty good at keeping that record and

477
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,400
it's all gone interesting but the only
people that really kind of documented what they

478
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:59,880
did were their enemies. And weirdly, Marco Polo. Marco Polo was in

479
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,679
a on this ship Let's go man. He was everywhere he was. He

480
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,199
was thing rolling with the fucking Mongols, wasn't he. He definitely went to

481
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,519
Asia, he was in China.
Isn't that the whole premise of that Netflix

482
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:13,679
show. I never watched it.
He definitely meets I know he. I

483
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:16,360
haven't watched it, but I know
he like meets them, like meets a

484
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:22,639
in the show, meets like a
Mongol or whatever. But I'm pretty sure

485
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,800
he met Genghis. I don't think
he met Gangas because he was in the

486
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,760
show, not in life. Yeah, because he was born in twelve fifty

487
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:34,559
four would have been a little hard. Yeah, twelve fifty four Marco Polo

488
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,679
was. That doesn't line up to
this, then, Well, my assumption

489
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:43,599
is so like a lot of history
back then and certainly further back like our

490
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,920
best accounts of like certain things in
Angels, like fifty or seventy years later.

491
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,320
Yeah, Herodotus was like would write
about things that happened like one hundred,

492
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,480
two hundred years. They would find
probably scattered documents and try to like

493
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:57,679
they were content aggregators basically. Yeah, literally, they were aggregating, right

494
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:00,960
that, and or they would be
or they would put into paper on like

495
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,960
just like the common like the cultural
lore. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

496
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:12,840
yeah, totally. So Marco Polo
and others would circulate their legend,

497
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,119
including claims that they were in thrall
to an old man in the mountain,

498
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:22,159
which was Hussan. Oh that makes
sense. Yeah, it seems well if

499
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:25,320
they say so. Yeah. And
also you know, A, you've probably

500
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,079
got a lot of surviving stuff.
Is anti assassin propaganda? Oh totally.

501
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:35,440
And b it's like we talked about
with the Native Americans and the giants or

502
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,360
whatever. It's just like every time
you retell the story you catching the fish,

503
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,199
it gets bigger. Oh right,
right, right, the exaggeration gets

504
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,760
more. Marco, from his own
word, his own mouth, his own

505
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,800
pen described them as from the ages
of twelve to twenty years, selected from

506
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:57,239
the inhabitants of the surrounding mountains who
showed a disposition for martial exercises and appeared

507
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,079
to possess the quality of daring courage. So what was happening was a bunch

508
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:04,760
of dudes were rolling out from the
castle and being like, that kid's kind

509
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,800
of buff. That kid's kind of
buff. He likes to fight a little

510
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,639
fighting, And it's like, oh
dude, he's got a good ground game.

511
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,000
Yeah, oh man, he can
grapple. Yeah, just like scoping

512
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,519
the dudes, you know, you
go out, Yeah, do a little

513
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:21,400
scout visit. You think they rolled
up in like a visor and a dry

514
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,199
fit assassin polo probably, Yeah,
some Jim shorts. Yeah yeah, the

515
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,920
real fancy ones coming into a helicopter
to impress him. Well, I guess

516
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,599
back then a hang glider or something. Yeah yeah, well we just hang

517
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:36,800
lighting onto my goat farm. Oly, shit, man, I gotta join

518
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:43,159
that there go to method of assassination. Dagger. That's a good that's a

519
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:47,880
good method. Public need to make
a statement. Very cartel, very cartel.

520
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,280
I like that, And they like
that dagger because obviously more blood.

521
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:54,880
Yeah, I mean they wanted to
be as griosome as possible in front of

522
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,199
as many people as possible, because
it sends a message while also accomplishing goal.

523
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,480
And they were the og kind of
suicide bombers. A lot of them

524
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:06,519
knew when they went on missions,
like we're not coming home. Yeah,

525
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:07,880
it's gonna be public, so I'm
gonna get and a lot. If they

526
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,360
killed the guy, they would give
themselves up and just get cut down.

527
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,199
Yeah, they would never be captured, but they would allow themselves to die.

528
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,639
Yeah, the suicide by whatever is
about to kill you. I guess

529
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,000
suicide by cop. Yeah, suicide
by Middle Eastern cop. But yeah,

530
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:27,440
ancient or Middle whatever. Uh,
that's really funny that they're just like,

531
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,159
we got to make a mess.
Yeah, make it messy, make it

532
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:37,079
gross. But they would often pose
as lowly servants, harmless civilians, religious

533
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,880
clerics. They're like, man,
the fucking butler is yoked. Like why

534
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,639
are all of the like bell boys
here like the strongest men I've ever seen.

535
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:52,920
They're all high. They're all high
as shit. I expect that out

536
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,079
of a bell boy. Yeah,
I mean, I guess fair. I

537
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:59,960
wonder like how strong the hash was. I know, like if it's a

538
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:05,800
enough I wonder because like hash is
pash, like that is hash. Like

539
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,960
it hasn't changed a whole lot,
like I think the oil and stuff has.

540
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,280
But like hash is still strong now. But it's the same stuff that

541
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,679
we were getting back then. It's
not like flower, you know, right

542
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,239
right, And so you weren't safe
anywhere. You could be in your bedroom,

543
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,320
your chambers, you could be with
your homie just getting nice dinner.

544
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:25,480
You be coming out of the mosque. Oh they didn't give a fuck.

545
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:29,000
Huh. Just not in the mosque, not in the massua outside. I

546
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:31,199
see, Catholics will do it in
the church. Who was that your episode?

547
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,239
Wasn't it what where guy got assassinated
in the church or something like that?

548
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,639
Oh? Yeah, yeah, that
was the that was the chief.

549
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:45,679
Yeah, yeah, you're making me
leak a spaghetti all over the pew.

550
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:52,639
So the Order and survived two hundred
years of battles against the Turks, the

551
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:58,199
Crusaders, any you know, just
kind of enemy in the Middle East around

552
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:05,039
that time. But they ultimately met
their end or at least as a power,

553
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:08,039
because they do exist today. What
excuse me, they do exist.

554
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:10,199
Cover that later. We're gonna get
to that. We'll get to that.

555
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:15,880
Oh good, good, good good. Explain that please, they were finally

556
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,840
over on and overmatched to Alam by
the Mongols. Of course they were.

557
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:30,360
There is nah t shirt. Remember
the album? Remember the album that No

558
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,639
one will buy that sh Yeah,
that's a real deep cut, real quick.

559
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the fucking Mongols do it though.
They're just like a fucking wave.

685
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Yeah, you can't, can't stop. They're like the fucking like Borg or

686
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some crazy World war Z shit.
Yeah, literally literally World WARSZ shit.

687
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Yep, you could. You just
know you're not safe on the moon twelve

688
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fifty six are a boy? Who
will you? And the soldiers just burn

689
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that bitch to the ground, like
you know what, like ha ha,

690
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Our fortress is impregnable and those like
cut to ten minutes later everyone's dead.

691
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It's like, oh, so you're
trapped in our new oven. We're gonna

692
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just smoke you out of this thing. Yep. Yeah. Its prize library

693
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was burned, destroying much of the
recorded history of the Assassins. The last

694
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:14,280
grand master of the sect, Muhammad, the third son Kershash, was taken

695
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to the Great Cohn's Court in chains
and uh yeah, once it gets back

696
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:22,039
to Mongolia is beaten to death in
front of the court. Oh sweet,

697
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:28,199
that's a long trip. Yeah,
it's a long way to go just to

698
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,840
be all right here he is beat
him up like Pinata Knight. Yeah.

699
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:40,280
Mongol camp pieces of hymn falled out, just little bones of candy. So

700
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:44,920
the Persian branches, they all kind
of crumble and fall. Obviously, the

701
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:50,239
capital's gone, They've lost it.
The Syrian branch of Assassins survived the initial

702
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:57,159
mongol onslaught in twelve sixty. They
allied with the Mamelukes and helped to drive

703
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,679
the Mongols out of Syria. Okay, However, without the power and influence

704
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:07,880
of Alamut, the isolated Assassins had
little chance of survival. Their Mameluke allies

705
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,239
soon turned on them and conquered the
last remaining strongholds in Syria and in the

706
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,320
main period of the Assassin history,
the Mamelukes, of course, being the

707
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:23,599
unsullied Yes yeah, the slave warriors
from Egypt. Yeah yeah. After the

708
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:29,639
destruction of the Assassin centers by the
Mongols, the group scattered wildly, and

709
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:36,599
despite often face and prosecution, managed
to preserve their religion, and according to

710
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:43,159
the Institute of Ismali's Studies in London, today the community still survives and has

711
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:46,159
spread across five continents in thirty countries. How many is Mali Muslims the other

712
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,639
day? So that's I want to
know? Is that? Like that'd be

713
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,519
funny if like that, Like,
so, are these like just like Muslim

714
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:57,400
Mormons? But they start out way
cooler than our Mormons. Yeah, they're

715
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,199
just like the weird third sect right, Well? Is Mormonism the third sect

716
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:06,320
even of Churse, I wouldn't call
it Protestantism, would call them Protestants.

717
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:09,519
Yeah, I guess they kind of
just start on their own ship with the

718
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:14,239
gold tablets and all that. Yeah, have no like it says there's twelve

719
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:19,800
to fifteen million of the assassins.
Small, Okay, Well, are there

720
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,320
are the assassins people that claim that
still rolling around and organized? M Something

721
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,599
you'd have to ask and is Molly
where where are they don't revocated? Are

722
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:31,000
they still mostly in like Persia or
in Iran? I guess they are spread

723
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,519
from South Asia, Africa, Middle
East, Europe, in North America,

724
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:42,639
even Australia. Infiltrated every continent Antarctica. They got one day, they got

725
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:44,800
a base down there. Yeah,
there's just two guys. It makes you

726
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:51,039
wonder so was Obama and as Molly
Muslim. That is the story of the

727
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:58,159
Order of the Assassins. Who's today's
Hitler? Today's Hitler? I mean,

728
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:02,000
there wasn't really a bad guy per
se, but the guy who founded it

729
00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:07,800
was a bad guy. Yeah,
I mean was he we you didn't tell

730
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,719
the story in the way that there
was a protagonist antagonist situation. Yeah,

731
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,119
but like very clearly the guy who
founded it was a piece of shit,

732
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:19,639
like not for you know, mustling
a guy out of a fort, but

733
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,960
just that the hassan, Yeah,
just taking kids and getting him hooked on

734
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,159
drugs, I think. And yeah, it's not even that part really,

735
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:30,440
it's the hey watch this jump?
Yeah, like yeah, that part.

736
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:35,159
Yeah, like cool man, you
did it. It's like, you know,

737
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,440
who's the Hitler of the Godfather.
It's kind of Michael Corleone. Yeah,

738
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:40,400
you know, I guess you don't
like a good anti hero. It's

739
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,679
the anti hero. Yeah, it's
well, I mean I do love Hitler,

740
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,679
So I don't want to. I
don't know, I don't I don't

741
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,440
know if you can qualify him as
an anti hero Hitler. Yeah, yeah,

742
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,679
there's no hero. Well, I
know it means anti, like I

743
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,599
know what anti means, but like
that term's almost been changed. Yeah,

744
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,079
there's something at least slightly redeemable,
but like there's something redeemable about Tony Soprano.

745
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:07,760
There's something redeemable, but there's hardly
anything redeemable about Tony Soprano. But

746
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,719
they're still slip. There's a sliver. It's like, uh, Don Draper,

747
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:15,159
slight sliver of like, Okay,
he has a conscious at least it's

748
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:20,920
just like Walt from Breaking Dad.
I guess he's well then, I mean,

749
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,559
I guess Hillard kind of is an
anti hero in a way, like

750
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:29,239
let's not do this, we don't
need to keep walking down this bit road.

751
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,760
Well it's okay, I'm doing it, so I'm going to keep walking

752
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,800
it. I go for it militarily, very up to snuff. I think

753
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,639
as far as like getting shit done, I guess there's a lot of it's

754
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:46,000
actually that's a whole episode we could
do on who's responsible for the success there?

755
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:52,800
Well that and also just like did
they get really lucky? They might

756
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:58,760
have because a lot of people are
starting to say like like France was just

757
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,559
pure luck. Yeah, could be. Yeah, And my understanding is France

758
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:08,639
just kind of laid down. France
kind of got like okay, let me

759
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:13,719
put let me put it this way. France was that Ben Asker knockout the

760
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,079
knee, the knee to thee.
Yeah, that was kind of what happened.

761
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,960
It's like they got just domed him, or like what happened right right

762
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,320
right because it was like so out
of nowhere, because they were getting ready

763
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,920
to fight and it's like, oh, dude, this is gonna be a

764
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,239
real ass fight. It's gonna be
a good ass fight. And then flying

765
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:36,199
knee kick. Yeah. I feel
like the Nazis were like surprised too,

766
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:39,079
They're like, oh fuck, yeah, we were totally I think Mazda,

767
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:40,960
I'll just get it. He didn't
know he was gonna land, you know,

768
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:45,079
like land it perfectly. Derek Close
has since done it. It was

769
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:50,920
awesome. Do you guys learn anything
today? Yeah? I learned. Midnight's

770
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,760
always been a thing. You know. Blank with the Brothers is a timeless

771
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,079
format. Yeah, Blank with the
Brothers in the Garden. Fraturney has so

772
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,480
so much more in common with terrorism
than I thought, are you kidding me?

773
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:07,000
Like almost every bro activity is so
close to terrorism it's a joke.

774
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,239
Yeah, that's what I learned was
if you took your for journey, went

775
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,079
back in time, and just had
the right strategy, you could take out

776
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,840
giant armies. I'm sorry I went
like hunting earlier this year. Most of

777
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,880
the time I was just in camo
on the back of a truck with a

778
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,920
semi automatic rifle. Yeah, that's
ninety percent of isis yep. Yeah,

779
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:29,519
just rolling around with your boys and
camo and a gun in the back of

780
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:31,239
a truck. That's why the Taliban
hates their lives now, No, because

781
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,400
the fun part is just riding around
in the truck. But there do you

782
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:40,679
take away the shooting of the gun
and the killing it Fucking hunting and terrorism

783
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,679
is the same thing. Like you're
on. Did you consider these guys terrorists

784
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,039
or more just their own thing?
I think they're closer to organized crime than

785
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:59,239
terrorism. Yeah, well there's a
political bent to it, yeah, I

786
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,079
mean, like rism is just the
label enemies give, like opponents of that

787
00:56:02,119 --> 00:56:06,639
group give to those groups too in
a way, Like I mean, I

788
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:12,400
suppose were they so were they primarily
a political force or did they have any

789
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,960
anything else that they did. No, just the sect of religion that was

790
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:23,119
super devote to Uh. I believe
Shiite Muslim believes they're just hardcore she Heites.

791
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:30,159
Okay, huh so they're okay,
so they're radicalists. Yeah yeah,

792
00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:31,440
but that at that time, that's
kind of political. I mean, religion

793
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:36,119
in politics is the same side of
this, that's the same coin. Yeah.

794
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:38,559
Yeah, but then we're never going
after like giant groups of people that

795
00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:43,239
were civilians. It was always just
like political assassination. That's why the fact

796
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,119
that it was political and military it
makes me think like, well they had

797
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:51,760
it was causing terror to civilians,
but very rarely would they touch them.

798
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,280
Yeah, I mean, it's still
it's kind of weird. Right. I

799
00:56:53,559 --> 00:57:00,800
think we could do a whole fucking
thirty minutes on the disinbiguation of like terrorism

800
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:06,039
versus like terrorism as a group versus
terrorism terrorism as a tool used by a

801
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:08,599
group that's not exclusively a terrorist group, right, right, right, there's

802
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:10,719
a lot of different ways to shake
that out. Ye know, people like

803
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,719
to toss around like skates, but
terrorism that's just like war kind of It's

804
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,440
a lot of times, yeah,
like it's it's hard to really get there.

805
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:22,920
Do you just try to shoot web
no shouting to get the blade to

806
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,400
come out on my Oh yeah,
OK, that'dn't sick if you had one.

807
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,280
But it was just like a real
jerry rigged ass, like a butter

808
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:35,159
knif kitchen knife. Yeah, fucking
pops out. No word on whether or

809
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:37,719
not they had those little blades that
came out of there. Did you chopped

810
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:42,400
off finger? Did you dive deep
on that? No? Not really?

811
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,079
I mean obviously the video game is
gonna take its own liberties. Yeah,

812
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:49,559
make the story a little bit more
digestible for people and cooler, yeah,

813
00:57:49,639 --> 00:57:52,639
and give you like a reason the
route for the guy you're playing. Guys,

814
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,760
I think the video game isn't doing
enough because you don't even get to

815
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,519
do Midnight in the video game.
There should be like the entire it should

816
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:06,320
start like NCAA football where you're a
recruit. Yeah, and like you're getting

817
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,239
recruited by Hassan and you gotta like, you know, go to what Opium

818
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:14,320
with the brothers night and like you
gotta play through that. You did say

819
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,679
you have to walk off a cliff
or something, though, don't you some

820
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:20,239
people that he I guess probably didn't
think was as valuable. Would he would

821
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:22,559
ask them to jump off the cliff
and die? No, but I mean,

822
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:23,599
like in the video game, don't
you like jump off a cliff?

823
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:27,400
Oh, there's plenty of locations where
you get to a high point. You

824
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,880
just jump into a stack of hay, A good stack of Hey there always

825
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:37,960
helpful, Yes, breaks your fall
key Matchine if that was like totally true,

826
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:40,599
inaccurate to history, like, all
they would have to do is be

827
00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:44,679
like, all right, we gotta
stop putting the bales of hay, like

828
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,920
right under the roof lines. Guys, stop storing your hay where the assassins

829
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:53,320
can jumpy. It's helping them get
away. Please stop doing this. Yeah.

830
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,559
I just thought it was cool that
it was a real organization and there's

831
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:01,159
some historical base to the video game. Yeah, no, I mean it's

832
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:06,840
great. I wish there were more
games like that. Honestly, there aren't

833
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:09,480
too many. There's some good I
think, like a lot of the historical

834
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,920
games are ones that I don't really
play, which are like set piece kind

835
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,760
of like strategy games that you Yeah, most most history games are like strategy

836
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,599
games. All duty used to be. Yeah, World War two Metal Honor.

837
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,440
Yeah, they don't smoothed away from
that and like modern warfare, but

838
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:30,760
it's hard to yeah, and it's
hard to make a fun and like somewhat

839
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:37,119
accurate game. It feels like anything
before World War One because like like reload

840
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:39,880
time alone exactly. So there's this
game. It's an interesting game, and

841
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,639
I like watching videos of it sometimes, but it's like a civil war multiplayer

842
00:59:44,639 --> 00:59:47,800
first person she called War of Rights, and like it's interesting, but like

843
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,400
you have to get in a line
with a unit. You have to like

844
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,280
have a klan or whatever, you
know, you get it like, and

845
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,400
it's just it's a fucking lot and
anything before that before Gunpowder is just like

846
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,199
a hack and lash game. Like
I've watched some gameplay on those. There's

847
01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:05,519
some something called Rise of Rome if
you've heard of that. I think it's

848
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:12,280
on like PlayStation Xbox like that you
like are invading England or something and fighting

849
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,920
celts and shit. But it's like, I mean, it's like really Arcadie

850
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:22,519
and it's not it's that like Assassin's
Creed, like you can do that like

851
01:00:23,079 --> 01:00:25,639
some fights and stuff like that.
But if you like a full hack and

852
01:00:25,679 --> 01:00:30,360
slash, battle is kind of weird. Yeah, I mean it. I've

853
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,159
had a couple of those battles though, in like the Viking game for Assassin's

854
01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:37,039
Creed, and then they had the
one. I mean they have like naval

855
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:42,280
battles. Oh that's sick. That's
pretty cool. Uh. The video game

856
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,920
I remember the most that's a history
video game is Mario History. Did you

857
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:51,000
ever play that? It's a Mario
Francie. It's a Mario franchised history game

858
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:54,239
where you like surf through time like
so there's a whole surfing element to it,

859
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,760
and you go into like whirlpools and
you end up in like it's the

860
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,840
day that Magnakata is getting You have
to learn about the Magna Carta, and

861
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,280
then you end up back in a
castle. You're trying free Luigi. I

862
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,760
think, yeah, but you have
to with hists Christopher in this house.

863
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:13,519
It was a Super Nintendo game.
It was called like Mario History or like

864
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:16,320
Super Mario History. It is the
weirdest game I've ever played in my life.

865
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,360
Nothing for that, Sorry, No, he was asking what the game

866
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,880
was your Your Mario impression was fantastic
Mario's time Machine. Yes, it's that,

867
01:01:24,159 --> 01:01:28,440
but also the the soprano callback.
Oh, I'm sorry, you do

868
01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:30,800
the joke again. It's okay,
I'll do it again. Damn Dae.

869
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,840
I need to play through this.
We need to get a a ram of

870
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,079
it or something. Yeah, I
don't playing through Mario's time machine. I

871
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,639
wonder if it's floating around in any
of my ship because I have some old

872
01:01:39,719 --> 01:01:43,960
Super Nintendo games floating around. Oh
it was a computer it was on Nintendo,

873
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,880
but it was also a computer game. Yeah it is. Ah is

874
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,480
weird. Is a weird one.
I'm excited that we have Thanksgiving coming up

875
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,679
later this month, and uh,
I think a work might be out of

876
01:01:53,679 --> 01:01:57,880
town, so might have like a
whole week where I can just play video

877
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,679
games. Hell yeah, dude,
So I'm gonna fan this game. I'm

878
01:02:00,679 --> 01:02:04,440
gonna fucking kill some some of the
Caliphate. It's fun to beat a game.

879
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:07,199
You don't ever never have that much
time to die. I know,

880
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,079
I put so many hours into uh
the last one, Valhalla, and just

881
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:14,559
never finished because once you fall off, it's it's all oh yeah, you

882
01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:17,880
gotta stay consistent on some of those. So with that said, make sure

883
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,440
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884
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,440
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885
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886
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:36,920
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887
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