1 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:32,879 Tonight's guest is Walter Walter. Welcome to the show. Oh, thank you 2 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,640 for having me pleasure to be here. Well, it's great having Yeah, 3 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:41,480 thanks for coming on water. Please give us a brief bio on yourself. 4 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:51,359 Okay, I'm personally love the outdoors and I've always been outdoors fishing, hunting, 5 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,519 target shooting, campaign anything that is possible to do outdoor. I'm a 6 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:06,200 forty six year old male and leaving Nevada at the moment, and yes, 7 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,960 enjoy the outdoor. Yeah, speaking of your love the outdoors, from what 8 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:14,840 I understand, you like the mountain climb. With that in mind, what's 9 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:20,240 the biggest tallest mountain you've ever climbed? Oh that's a great question. Yes, 10 00:02:20,479 --> 00:02:24,039 Um, Actually the biggest ever I ever done is here in Nevada. 11 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:31,719 It's called Red Rock Canyon and there was an eighteen peach climb. I would 12 00:02:31,759 --> 00:02:39,360 say about twenty six hundred feet. Beautiful mountain, beautiful rocks, and for 13 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:46,520 people who knows Red Rock in Nevada, they will certainly appreciate the climbing. 14 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:51,159 I mean, it's amazing. Oh, I'm sure it is amazing. Never 15 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,360 did have the guts the mountain climb. I'm sure, it's a blast though, 16 00:02:54,479 --> 00:02:59,599 hitious, hidious is. It really can make you call query your fears 17 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:07,639 and your limits and put you onto a more understanding of yourself. That's a 18 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:15,199 really deep I mean, in turn, discover of yourself for sure. Well, 19 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:17,319 I can see how that would be the case you do something like that. 20 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:21,280 It's going to bring you closer to yourself, and I'm sure you're going 21 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:24,599 to learn all sorts of things about yourself you didn't know before. Yes, 22 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,280 exactly, that's right. You grew up in Italy, Walter. Have you 23 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:37,439 heard about any dog mean encounters that have happened there? So in Italy there 24 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:44,080 is those stories and those legends. Not as much as maybe a US most 25 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:50,080 more in the past, I would say, but yes, there are those 26 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:59,000 those legends. They honestly talking. I never believed before my encounter, and 27 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:04,319 I've been stoken by wolf is in Italy while I was going mushroom unting. 28 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:13,120 I've been seen all kinds of animals in the in the worlds in Italy and 29 00:04:13,199 --> 00:04:18,120 as well in US. But yeah, there are those stories, and like 30 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:24,000 I said before, I never believe it. But something made me rethink my 31 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:29,399 story recently, and you know, you know what we're talking about, which 32 00:04:29,439 --> 00:04:33,759 we go on seeing with you. Dog men are everywhere, so it shouldn't 33 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:38,639 come as a surprise that you have legends of them there. But I'm wondering, 34 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,199 how do you say the word dog men in Italian? Okay, in 35 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:49,240 Italian we say it's a little longer walk. So we see lupo manaro. 36 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:59,720 Now, the lupo manaro worlds come from lupo which means wolf and manaro, 37 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:05,199 which in Italia has actually a very very low usage, so don't people don't 38 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:11,600 use this word much, but means that this wharf fits a man eater. 39 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:19,319 So it's kind of a very creepy creature that looks pretty much like what we 40 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:27,600 describe they are in US as a dog man, and it is really mean 41 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,079 and it is really dangerous for what they say in Italy because in Italy or 42 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,600 in let's say, in Europe in general, when those creatures have been seen 43 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,800 or somebody has an encounter, most of the time on the old story, 44 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:48,600 those people never come back from the woods. There was attacked by those creatures. 45 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:56,120 So it there's not many testimony about it, stories of courts that we 46 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,639 hear. They are for sure now, not like in US we have more 47 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:06,079 testimony than in Europe. But I will say yes, kind of a different 48 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,000 topic in Europe than in USUS is more open. People like to talk about 49 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,120 it more. They're not afraid of say stories. That's why I'm in the 50 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:23,439 show actually, because after my encounter these, for three days I didn't even 51 00:06:23,439 --> 00:06:28,000 talk with my family about it because I was like, my show, what 52 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,439 I see, wasn't you know something different? I have to share these? 53 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,759 I was really I was in a kind of shock, after much shock, 54 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:42,839 let's say. But between one of my friends, I find your name and 55 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:46,079 he told me, why don't you reach out and share your story because he 56 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,639 has stories too, And I say, well, you know what, maybe 57 00:06:49,639 --> 00:06:55,120 I'll do well here. I am, well, I'm glad he told you 58 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,480 about me. In that legend that you're telling us about, that's pretty ominous 59 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:03,240 the way it described dogmen over there are there that many cases of missing persons 60 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:10,839 in Italy. I cannot really answer you that because I'm missing from Italy for 61 00:07:11,519 --> 00:07:14,560 much of years. Right now, I'm living in you ask for about sixteen 62 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,240 years. I've always been missing because I travel all over the world. I've 63 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:24,120 been in Australia, I've been in the Caribbean Island. I've been pretty much 64 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,279 all over my job boys allow me to travel all over the face, so 65 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:34,759 I'm missing a little bit that kind of contact with my country in some way. 66 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:41,040 So I cannot really answer that, Oh, that's all right down the 67 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,639 roote. Some time you might find out about the missing person's cases there. 68 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,519 But yeah, it's no big deal that you don't know right now. He 69 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:51,480 told us about all the traveling you've done around the world. Has your encounter 70 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:55,959 had white sweeping effects on how you view the world around you? Now, 71 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:03,800 yes it did. Let's say that this changes you in a way. It 72 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:11,120 changes you in a way because I'm always being skeptical of supernatural and all those 73 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:16,000 kinds of things or different animals or creatures. I've always be skeptical because, 74 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:18,879 like I said, I never had an encounter. I never see anything weird, 75 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,759 and I've been outdoor a lot of time. So when you when you 76 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,920 are at this point, then you feel yourself secure in the outdoor, Like 77 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:33,440 I have no problems leaping outdoor at night, being in a camp, to 78 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:39,480 being a sleeping anchor to a rock when I was climbing. So I mean 79 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,679 here for me was a very low fuctor, and he's still a very low 80 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:50,840 fuctor in many things. But as today, honestly talking after my encounter, 81 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,879 if you ask me to go set at camp at night what I was, 82 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,840 I will tell you know I'm not. I'm not going to do it along. 83 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,559 The only way I'm going to do it if it's I'm going down there 84 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,919 with my R fifteen, then I will be protect with a friend or two 85 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:13,159 then know how to use weapons. But I would not do that along in 86 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:18,519 a million years. Well for more reason than one. It's always a good 87 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,399 idea to have someone with you if you head out until the woods or the 88 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:26,200 wilderness anyway, so I'm glad to hear that you do that. If you've 89 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,200 had a dog meet encounter would like to speak with me about it, whether 90 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,440 I'm private or on the show, please go to dog meant Encounters dot com 91 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:37,200 and submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting and would like to 92 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,519 be a guest on one of my two bigfoot shows, please go to my 93 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:45,559 Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let me know. All right, Walter, please 94 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,080 tell us about your encounter. Now, give us every last detail that comes 95 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:56,559 to mind. Okay, So I went to this new area, which I 96 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,919 never been before fishing. So I planned the trip. I had like I 97 00:10:01,039 --> 00:10:07,440 usually do, so getting all my gears, getting my maps set up in 98 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:13,639 the area, and yeah, start in the journey early morning. You'll take 99 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:18,519 my car six o'clock from home, starting in the early morning of a beautiful 100 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:26,879 Sunday morning here in Nevada and heading to Lake Mohave, which is beautiful water 101 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:35,240 reservoir in the Colorado River. Crystal clear water, surrounded by nature called Nevada. 102 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,600 So there's not many trees. It is a beautiful area, I'm but 103 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:43,919 very rocky, very remote from civilization. I would say at least one hour 104 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:50,879 drive from the closest little village. So beautiful place. So I headed to 105 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:58,120 this place and I arrived around I would say seven seven fifteen plats of minus 106 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,320 and the start to sit up my roads, my hipman, my gears. 107 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:07,080 So I like to fish for carp. So carp here in the US is 108 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,960 not a great challenging fee for many people, but I like it because they 109 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,519 get beach for me catching big fish. Is there is the trio. So 110 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:24,360 I head into this place, setting a camp up then because it's already getting 111 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:30,399 a little warmer in the morning, and yes, um, this beautiful beach 112 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:37,759 surrounded around this lake Lake More Harbd. And uh, there is a couple 113 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:41,440 of people next to me, a couple of ladies that they camp as well, 114 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:46,519 at about I would say, about two hundred yards from my camp. 115 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:50,440 So I'm there. We know I'm all alone. There's these people as well, 116 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,600 so the people that the beach is not super full. Let's say that 117 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,440 there is me and there is those people. So setting on I camp, 118 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:03,279 I start fishing. I have my dog with me, which is a little 119 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,799 I would say, kind of my Italian gray mixed, pretty skiny dog, 120 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,879 very very very aware or very thing that's around you at all the time. 121 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:18,639 If there is anything they're going on, he will know it before me all 122 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,879 the time. So for me it's a great help when I go around in 123 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:30,519 the woods or outdoor or it's always nice to have a dog. So at 124 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,159 this point, so I'm they're fishing. So I set my roads in the 125 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:39,240 water and I'm just relaxing, light up my cigar in my chair. Beautiful 126 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,639 the feet in the water, and I'm like, oh, I'm in parts. 127 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:50,279 So um. At one point, you see my dog, I think 128 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:56,039 a little weird. So he came next to me, and he's starting me 129 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,639 with his body and he's pointing in a direction with his stale up so and 130 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:05,320 I don't know what he does that. Sometimes it is because it's his coyotes 131 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:11,799 or is he any other animals around, And he usually does a little cry 132 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:18,159 sound like you know, like a dog can't do. And instead this money 133 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:22,879 was just next to me and pointing and a direction and no sound, nothing 134 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:26,000 whatsoever. And I looked at him and saying, what's going on? You 135 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:30,240 know, what's going on? And then I look up to the direction that 136 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:37,519 he was looking and I'm like just stuck with my eyes on this team, 137 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:45,600 on this uh animal or whatever. He was all about a hundred yards from 138 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:50,799 where I was in top of our rocky hill. So I know very well, 139 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:54,919 Di zeal. So I know very well because I've been there before and 140 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,039 I checked the area before my fishing to be been online. I go that, 141 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,960 heell, it's clear, there's nothing on top. There's no bush, 142 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:11,039 there's no trees, there's nothing. Now I see this, I would rather 143 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:18,919 say six foot tall ball of hair, like a gigantic amount of air and 144 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,840 long hair. I would say at least they was flying with the little breeze 145 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,679 of the morning in the air, and there was at least ten inch long 146 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:35,600 hair, light colored, not black, I would say, on light brown. 147 00:14:37,159 --> 00:14:41,879 And this thing was just standing over there, and my dog was looking 148 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:46,960 straight at into as I was, and he did not make a sound, 149 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,600 he did not cry, he did not try to go over and see what 150 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:56,519 was Sometimes he started to step over there, anything of any animal that he 151 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:01,919 see, and he was just acting different. I was actually acting very sharp 152 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,879 too, because I'm like, Okay, this is not a mountain lion, 153 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,080 because I know how they look. This is not a bullreaue which we have 154 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,960 in the area. Bullo is the donkey, the wild donkey that we have 155 00:15:16,039 --> 00:15:22,320 in the area, wasn't That's not a coyote. So there's no bird in 156 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:30,960 this area. So I'm like, what is dead? So it's very weird 157 00:15:31,039 --> 00:15:35,919 when you see an anymore and or any kind of creature and you cannot point 158 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,840 on what it is. And I never have that feeling in my life, 159 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:46,039 but that morning, I have that feeling that I'm looking at something that is 160 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:52,679 not of this world for what I see. So even now actually talking about 161 00:15:52,720 --> 00:16:00,039 I still have goose bump every time I'm talking about this creature or this animal 162 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,600 or his dog. Man. Now that I know what it is, I 163 00:16:04,759 --> 00:16:15,200 get these chills all over my body because it was unexplained sight. So something 164 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,600 they'll look at you that you know he's there. And what I noticed because 165 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,320 the moment that I look at this this team, I thought there was a 166 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:30,600 long time, but they actually entire the entire vision or the me looking at 167 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,559 the animal. I don't think he lasts more than three to four second, 168 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:41,679 but he was so intense that I almost feel like I lost the track of 169 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,679 time. You know. It's like I looked at him, he looked at 170 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,600 me. My dog was looking at it. And the funny things and when 171 00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:56,639 all these things happened, those two ladies that I mentioned before, there wasn't 172 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:02,399 about sixty to seventy pr from this thing, and they have two little dogs 173 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:08,920 rhunning on the beach, and this team was looking moving his head right and 174 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:11,720 left, so he was looking at me, he was looking at them, 175 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,519 was looking at me, was looking at them, just his head. He 176 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,039 was moving. But I could not picture the head. I could not picture 177 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,640 any particular about the head. The only thing that I remember very well, 178 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,839 and I see it very well, was the protuberance that he has between the 179 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:36,160 shoulders, very large shoulders I will say at least five to six foot large 180 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,359 shoulders, like almost like a big bodybuilder, I would say even more. 181 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,319 And there was hair flying in the little breeze that we had that morning, 182 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:56,279 and this giant like a hump on the back of his shoulder. So the 183 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:02,319 ladies did not notice this creature over there theres either. The jobs was lurking 184 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,920 around the beach and playing around. I was the only one seeing it. 185 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:15,279 And like I said, I don't get scared, but in that moment, 186 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:22,400 I was scared. I feel something inside me that says, this is way 187 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:26,279 over what you can do to protect yourself if this thing is charging at us 188 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:30,119 or anything like that. I don't know if I can't protect anybody in this 189 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:36,880 nature of myself either. So it was a moment that scares me. Actual. 190 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:44,519 Yeah. Now going through the description of the scripture, so um, 191 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,480 like I said, was light hares or black brown, nothing nothing, nothing 192 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:55,519 dark, nothing black. I could not see the head. I could only 193 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:00,480 see the shape that moves because this big hamp in the back of we showed 194 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,640 that it was actually kind of cover in the sun that was coming out from 195 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:15,240 behind him, and I see the two skinny legs in the back, and 196 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,759 I see the two more in the front. So but he was not standing. 197 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:25,279 He was on four legs. But I can definitely say that the back 198 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:33,640 legs they were super skinny, very skinny, almost like inappropriate to sit below 199 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:41,359 such a large body. It was like almost like m no balance, you 200 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,799 know, and when nature makes something it's usually as a balance. This thing 201 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:49,559 was not balanced properly. The top was too big that they showed that there 202 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:55,440 was to be compared to the legs or to what was supporting this giant body. 203 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,160 Now, the front legs, I cannot really see much. There was 204 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:04,160 really air him more maybe than the background, but I cannot really see exactly 205 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:10,880 how they look because he at the deposition he was on it, his body 206 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:15,839 was basically almost like sitting on those rocks. I wouldn't say exactly seating, 207 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:22,279 but almost like crutching down. So then at one point, of course, 208 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:25,720 I put the leash de lesh on my dog because I'm wanting to stay with 209 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:29,640 me and I wanting to go in any direction of this future. While I 210 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,079 post took in the leash and I wasn't touching him. Um, I remember 211 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,839 I look back up and I see him purning, so purning really fast, 212 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:47,400 really fast, like um, like he was scared or lucky he get I 213 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,559 don't know, he wants to get away from us. So I see him 214 00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:56,799 turning and just crawled down fast, as I would say. I have this 215 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,000 in my mind since the first time him I speak about this encounter, so 216 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:07,680 I almost feel like he was so fast like a dirt bike was going downhill. 217 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,400 So I see this creature jumping down those rocks as fast as I can 218 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,119 see him turning. It was already down on the backside on the rocks, 219 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,480 so I cannot see him anymore. Just disappeared from my view behind the ledge 220 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:27,440 of the rocks, and I see the dust basically coming out behind it the 221 00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:32,599 box. So when I see all this dust flying in the air, I'm 222 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,599 like, man, that tells me that what I see was there. It's 223 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,279 not just me imagining anything. This thing was there. I see the dust 224 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:47,440 now in the air of this creature running downhill behind those rocks. So my 225 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:53,359 dog continued to see looking in that direction. A touched to me and look, 226 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,839 I'm looking at the ladies like to see if they even, you know, 227 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,480 realize what was and of just sixty sixty feet behind their prom sixty yards, 228 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,079 I would say, behind there, and know they were talking. There 229 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,680 was loud. There was having a loud conversation with each other, you know, 230 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:14,319 maybe a few drinks, you know how it goes. When people started 231 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:21,640 talking, especially ladies. And I was looking at that in the direction of 232 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,279 those rocks. Its completely sided and completely immobilized because I don't know what to 233 00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:30,599 do here, And I was scared away for their little dogs because they were 234 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:37,319 just humming around the entire beach, and I think this creature maybe was paying 235 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,720 for them, because that's my only thinking of why this thing was over there, 236 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,960 or was there for hunting us? Was there far in the dogs? 237 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:51,839 Those are my questions. So I can't really answer this questions, but I 238 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,920 know that the thing was there and I cannot describe it. So I when 239 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,640 I see him going and I see the dust and he was gone, I 240 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,599 keep looking in the same direction for another at least three or four minutes, 241 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,240 to be sure that this thing was gone and was not coming back at us 242 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:15,720 in another direction. So then my dog went quiet and he started to relax, 243 00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:19,319 and so I see he still was still down to his legs instead of 244 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,960 up and my dog has a has a short tail because when he born, 245 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,960 he didn't born with the entire tail, so I only have a piece of 246 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:32,160 his tail and his stay was back down in a sad position. When dog 247 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:36,720 usually have a tail between the legs, we say it's because they're afraid, 248 00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:41,440 and they said or they see something that they can explain, and that's exactly 249 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,759 what happened to him. He was still he was still scared. So I 250 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:49,920 picked him up a little by making more you know, quill and you know, 251 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,519 and he started to relax, but he was still keeping looking at that 252 00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:59,799 they are. You know, he was still there because he could definitely feel 253 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:04,079 more than me that this this creature was keep riding or whenever he went. 254 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,200 Dogs can hear much longer than we woman to do, so I know he 255 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:17,680 was still feeling it. So another confirmation for me because I was so shocked 256 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:23,519 that I might did I see what I seem like? Ask questioning myself because 257 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:33,279 you know, what was that? So it was pretty intense. It sure 258 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,200 sounds like it was. Did having your encounter as such a beautiful place turn 259 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:42,759 to your love of the outdoors to at least a small degree? Yes, 260 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,400 I would say yes, because if I go out there again, which I 261 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:53,079 planned to do, like I did when I went back to research, I 262 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,960 always carry a weab over me. You know, ne Bada is a free 263 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,079 carry state, so I carry my with me now that there's a rule that 264 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,720 you can carry in parts as well, so I will not go empty ended. 265 00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:08,480 Yeah, so I we'll definitely do that and take my phone with me 266 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:12,160 all the time, just in case I can feel I can do anything. 267 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,160 But yeah, so we'll go there with different thoughts, even in the daylight. 268 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:21,440 Because actually that's what happened to me. You know, some people I 269 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:25,799 hear after my research. I went to the internet and I look at videos. 270 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:32,480 I actually listed a few of your interviews about the dog man encounter, 271 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:40,359 and I see things with a different eye, and I'm for sure after the 272 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:44,799 day, now I can decline myself into our research. I'm going to be 273 00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:48,720 a dog man research. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm already thinking of 274 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,720 what I can do. I'm already thinking about going back to that area and 275 00:25:53,599 --> 00:26:00,440 research more. Ask the people around, ask for shure the village people about, 276 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,200 and see if there's nothing coming up or anything can come up from those 277 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,200 stories. You know, if anybody ever see it. If anybody have an 278 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:14,519 encounter or testimony, how will research? How will research? For sure? 279 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,880 It changed me in two ways. Yes, because I'm gonna be a little 280 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:26,640 more aware when I'm outdoor, and I'm gonna be for sure listening to my 281 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:33,319 dog more or whatever he does, because they foreshort know and feel and see 282 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:41,640 better than we do. So Yes, for sure. One more description that 283 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,720 I have to say is, I remember I pulled you in the first time 284 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:51,720 we met, about the three days after, you know, about the three 285 00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:56,559 days after when I start to realize that I see that creature. I realized 286 00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,559 it in my brain. I finally can come true and say yes. And 287 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,880 what I see was what I see And I told to my family. I 288 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:12,359 told them about it, and everybody was like really really supporting or it. 289 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,839 It was like, you know, I involved if you see it, you 290 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,960 know we know that you always out there's something weird. We know what's something 291 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:26,559 weird because I can't really describe and see and be very very precise of recognizing 292 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:32,880 any animal in the woods or hugdor I'm pretty keen on them, snakes, 293 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,599 reptiles or any kind of animal. I can't really know what they are and 294 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,759 it's my patience to study animals. Whenever I go in the world, I 295 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:44,960 know, I want to know what's out there. I want to see them. 296 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,920 I want to you know, I want to have an experience. And 297 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:56,119 so once I came up with the idea of going back there and looking for 298 00:27:57,079 --> 00:28:03,839 science, for anything from clue, for anything that the animal could leave a 299 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,880 trace of itself. I don't know, hair, a footstep or you know, 300 00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:15,319 footprint or anything like that. So a three days eight later, I 301 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:21,400 jump back in my car, take my dog with me, take all my 302 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,720 protection my dog, and head to the place again. So while I was 303 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,000 driving down there, already I had that feeling like back to my spine, 304 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:36,480 you know, like this goosebox, this kind of weirdness. More I was 305 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:40,119 getting close to the area, more I was feeling it. But I'm like, 306 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,000 okay, well let's go. It's another It's it's today. You're protected, 307 00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:48,279 you haven't got you You just got to look for traces and whatever. 308 00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:52,640 So I went to the place. I parked in the same spot, and 309 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:59,079 I just walked towards the little hill when I see these animal so I realized 310 00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:04,079 that the hill physically one hundred yards ninety nine ninety eight yards from when I 311 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,759 was scared. So how do I know that? But I know that because 312 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:14,799 I'm ring my scope. You know, the scope for a hunting have radicals, 313 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:18,680 and the radicals when you will do long long shooting range like I do, 314 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:25,519 they have a way to measure distance and objects at a distance. So 315 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,680 I'm like to telescope from from my car to the hill and try to figure 316 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,720 it out the height of these creatures. So how tall that thing was? 317 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,920 I want to know exactly how tall that thing was? And I come up 318 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,559 with exactly six foot something, six foot maybe and a half. I cannot 319 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,119 really go to the inch, but I can tell you that that thing was 320 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,160 six foot and he was not standing. He was on his full pot. 321 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:57,400 So I can only imagine how that thing can be if he lift himself on 322 00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:06,000 two legs, that's going to be a nine foot are easily. So um 323 00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:11,440 kind of a big animal. And so I measured that, and I was 324 00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,400 shocked myself, and I was like, okay, so I saw what I 325 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,400 saw, and that's what the size was. So I'm sure now I have 326 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,720 no clue that there was the size, And I was surprised how close it 327 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:27,319 actually was for me but was closer to the two ladies. The two ladies 328 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:32,119 there was basically under this hill was there was. If that thing would have 329 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:37,200 run and wanted to hunt their dogs or those people, they he would have 330 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:45,599 surely surely get to them in a manner of seconds. So I went to 331 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,640 the hill. I walked to the hill, and as as as I get 332 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,680 to the hill, I'm seeing those rocks, and I'm a climber like we 333 00:30:52,759 --> 00:31:00,640 were, like I was telling you before, So I know it's not easy 334 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:07,160 for somebody to grab onto those rocks. To any other animals that I know, 335 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,839 they can rob to those rocks and actually climb on top of the little 336 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:17,319 stone hill. So I know that from the front was not going to be 337 00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:21,200 a case. I could have done it with my climbing shoes, but it 338 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,160 could have been tough. It's it's it's kind of a very very high grade 339 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:33,240 climb. It's not a long clime. It's probably about fourteen feet high fifteen 340 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,960 feet high, but not doable. So I went to the back where he 341 00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:44,680 actually ran away from it. And even from the back to be able to 342 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:48,799 go on top of this rock, it would have been a challenge for any 343 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,920 humor, for any person with a suit for anybody they can maybe try to 344 00:31:53,079 --> 00:32:00,079 emulate anything like that. That is now our way to describe when you have 345 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,200 does encounter. Yes, you want to be sure of what you see. 346 00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:10,519 He wasn't another animal. So for me to prove that was actually to go 347 00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:15,240 to the place and see how this animal could have gone on top of those 348 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:17,759 rocks, you know. So, like I said, I went in the 349 00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:22,519 back, and even from the back, it was going to be a challenge 350 00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:28,000 for any kind of human or or any kind of maybe a good go over 351 00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,039 there, but even good good they jump on rocks and they do all this 352 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:34,839 stuff. But it was just too steep, you know. It was almost 353 00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,599 a climbing degree. You can actually climb that place if you are acquirement. 354 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,279 That's what I would look forward to climb, to make a challenge. So 355 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,440 I'm like, where is this animal going on top of these things? There's 356 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,720 no way they can go up in that thing he made jump over there. 357 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,079 That's what my conclusion was, I see, is this thing actually jump top 358 00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:59,359 of that thing? He can actually jump fifteen feet hind in the air, 359 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:05,799 Because that's how it looks to me. Now thinking about when this animal turns 360 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,680 back on me and run away, So I say, okay, why did 361 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,440 I see the dusk coming up? Why did I This is just rocks. 362 00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:21,160 So I managed to go on behind the rocks on the better side, easier 363 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,200 way to go up, and I actually climb on top of this thing, 364 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:30,599 and I don't see any mark or any footprints because it's pure rock. And 365 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,279 you know, in Nevada it never rains, so we don't see rains sometimes 366 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,519 for six months seven months, so the place is try dry, dry, 367 00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:45,599 dry, so the only thing you can see is dusk. And I'll look 368 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,519 around, look around from the top of this rock, and I did not 369 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,359 see anything that looks like a mark or anything that he couldn't lived in any 370 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,559 of the of the sand it was below the rock. Was a little bit 371 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:05,240 of sad. So before I come down, I actually looked from the lock 372 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:08,880 towards my car and I'm like, wow, speak could have seen anything I 373 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,360 was doing from here. Who knows how long it was there for he was 374 00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:19,920 finding on us or whatever, until he probably realized that I saw him looking 375 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,960 at us. So that was my feeling and my conclusion of the top of 376 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,480 the lock. So then I came down to the lock, back down to 377 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,480 the ground, and I look, and I look at where do I see 378 00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:37,400 this dust? Fline over? And now I know what I see. What 379 00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:40,280 I see was actually not even dust. It was all the same below this 380 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:46,559 rock. And you know this fine, fine, Let's say that when it's 381 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:51,199 raining, if it's training, that would be marked. But since the mark 382 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,280 is so dry, so what happened here in the summer and the longer monster 383 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:00,239 doesn't rain, it turns into dust. So that's what the dust that I 384 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,320 see when he ran away. So I went over there and I checked his 385 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,159 dust as well to see if I can spot a food mark, a footprint 386 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,400 or anything. Nothing. Nothing, unfortunately, I count see any And I 387 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,960 was looking for air or for anything or for you know, espreim that he 388 00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:24,400 could have believed. Nothing there was looking weird, nothing there was looking off, 389 00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:31,039 you know. So unfortunately didn't find anything. But I tried to walk 390 00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:37,000 towards the side of the mountain that he probably was running into. He was 391 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:43,559 it's like a dry creek that it's basically called a wash. His money's reading 392 00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,400 a lot. That's when the water washed out to the reservoir, to the 393 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:52,440 Lake Mohave. So he probably choose that pot to run away from us. 394 00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:59,199 And go wherever he wanted to go. But there could have been a pot 395 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,639 that could be a place. The only problem is that even there couldn't find 396 00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:07,079 any footsprints because it's full of small stones like river stones, so that's not 397 00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:13,880 much to live on a river stone. So while I was walking there, 398 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:17,320 I thought I was gonna walk a little further, but then I didn't want 399 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:23,280 to because too much bushies around on both sides of this wash, and I 400 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,679 don't want to be in a spot where I can be ambushed quickly from the 401 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:34,920 bush from anything that is around, especially my dog. So I'm like, 402 00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:38,000 no, I'm not gonna walk that wash. I'm not gonna take that pot. 403 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,960 I'm alone, so I'm not gonna do it. Maybe come back with 404 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,920 somebody with friends, and then we can maybe follow the wash and see where 405 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,559 it takes if we find anything. But I didn't feel to do it alone 406 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:57,079 that day. I have to creep coming up my back again, that feeling 407 00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:02,199 of goosebumps behind my back being there where he was, you know, I 408 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,239 was like, Okay, this is his territory. I don't want to invade 409 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,559 his territory because maybe that's what animal do you know, they may protecting their 410 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,639 territory. Had I don't want to be part of that right now. I'm 411 00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:19,880 not prepared. I'm alone. So I came back. I head back from 412 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,239 that place, straight to my car, stayed there for a few moments. 413 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,159 You know, it's looking around. Was nobody in that morning? Was there 414 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:32,639 almost the same time I get there was about eight o'clock thirty. There was 415 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,360 nobody in the area. So I just saying, you know about that, 416 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,199 let's head home for now. But it was a break trooth for me, 417 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,119 So it was not that easy to be back there and honestly telling you feeling 418 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:52,920 completely sure of myself. I was feeling a little bit weird. I had 419 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,599 that you know, those hair in the back of my head sometimes standing it 420 00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,119 up, and I'm like, I don't know if I'll be here any longer. 421 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,800 Alone. I don't blame me for getting cold feet. I'm impressed the 422 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,840 fact that you went back out there and took a good look around. Yeah, 423 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,920 alone, I should have breathed somebody, you should have. But everything 424 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,599 went fine, So no harm, no foul. Did you decide to research 425 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,320 dogman because you want to prove their existence to the world, Walter Er, 426 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,679 because you want to learn more about them. Well, I would say boats. 427 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,840 I would say boat. I want to know myself more about and I 428 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,360 want to know. I want I want to know what they're doing. But 429 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:40,679 they leave what they eat, how they reproduce. I mean, uh, 430 00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:46,119 there's a wild study here. There's no registration on anything, on papers or 431 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,159 nobody ever, you know. I mean there's people that encountered them, but 432 00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:55,960 nobody ever found a body. Nobody ever killed one. Or maybe I see 433 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,639 a video that somebody say that they may kill one. But even that the 434 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:06,519 body's gone, there's no enough proof. So why not why not just go 435 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,599 deep on this thing and figure it out what's going on? So I think 436 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:15,039 once you experience it yourself, it's like it is opened a door to that 437 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:21,360 word. It's opening that door. It says, well, I'm here, 438 00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:24,559 you see me, and now what right now? I want to learn more. 439 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,239 I can't just close that door and forget about it. Now. It's 440 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,880 not me. I'm a very curious urts on and want something weird happened. 441 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,360 I want to know what's going on. I'm definitely gonna be became a researcher. 442 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,800 You would see my thing somewhere. I'm not a guy to do social 443 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,039 media, So that's not gonna be anything that I would do. But if 444 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:54,800 I have to pare with somebody or open a research in this area, I 445 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,400 would be more than happy to do that. It would be more than happy 446 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,719 to do that. You're a good man, Walter. Whatever direction you decide 447 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,760 to take this, I wish nothing but the best of luck. I don't 448 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,519 know how you would do it, but do you have any desire to warn 449 00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:14,000 people in that area about it being around? Yeah? What I will do? 450 00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:17,639 Like I said before, I will definitely go to the village that is. 451 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,400 I would say the name of the village just because I don't want to 452 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,760 make like um because you know how things get in America. Sometimes they go 453 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,400 crazy. If you know, the people just go and float the area out. 454 00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:35,800 I don't want anything like that to happen to this little quiet village. 455 00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:42,559 But I would definitely go there myself alone or with a friend and just maybe 456 00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,119 interview people. Let's see, you know, ask a few questions around you. 457 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,960 I'll go to the local bar and see you Ever guys ever here is 458 00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:55,519 you know weird stories? Any huntsman here or anybody that hunting or goes out 459 00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,440 or have any you know, it's just starting from zero and see what's coming 460 00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:05,599 up that It's in the back of my mind and I'm planning to do it 461 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,519 as soon as I have a little bit of time. I'm planning to do 462 00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:12,320 it. I don't want to do he's want to far away from from now 463 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,679 because my sighting was shortly time, you know, was about was the seventh 464 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,119 of Yeah, I'm seventh of Ape if I'm not wrong, yea, that 465 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:28,639 was the day, and you know, I want to keep it fresh, 466 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,280 so I want to see what's going on right now, maybe see if I 467 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:43,239 can find somebody that knows about some stories encounter right now. If that thing 468 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,480 is there, I'm thinking, then I'm probably not the only one seeing it. 469 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,039 He's probably been seen by somebody else. That's my plan. Oh, 470 00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:55,960 I'm sure you're right. I'm sure other people around there there you have seen 471 00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:01,880 it. How big is Lake Mohave water, Well, Lake Mohabit. It's 472 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,000 pretty big. It's not as big as giant as Lake Mead, which is 473 00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:09,559 his little brother, her piece is we can call it the brother of meat, 474 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,320 but it's a big reservoir. Not exactly knowing owt about the size right 475 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,599 now, I will have to google it, but it's a big, big 476 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,880 reservoir that the coastline is pretty big. Let's say that from side to side 477 00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:29,920 from where I was to the older side, it's about five mile large. 478 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,840 So it's a big water reservoir. It's part of the Colorado Rivers. So 479 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,920 if you want to know more, you can definitely google it. Then take 480 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,840 a look at the area and I can definitely nation the area where I was 481 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:50,320 on. The area was on is basically Lake Mohave and it's called nine Miles 482 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,719 Beach. It's called nine Miles Beach, not because it's the nine Miles Beach, 483 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,639 but because to get the beach you need to drive nine miles on a 484 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:06,199 dirt or basically was was before was a telephone line. So that's why they 485 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,920 built these roads to go all the way down to the Moabi water. It's 486 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,199 a very remote a desert, all the desert to only see a few bushes 487 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:22,920 around, very dusty, very rocky. Coyotes are the main animals down there, 488 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:30,760 the prenators, turtles, whereas borrows which are the darkies. Lots of 489 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:37,039 birds, peoples, a lot of quadi animals. But yes, you are 490 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:38,639 in the middle of the desert. You have a lot of water in front 491 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:44,360 of you, but the rest is desert. So it's a great area. 492 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,239 Now in the area now that I remember, I mentioned it once and I 493 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:55,039 know because I researched after my encounter in the area there is it's called the 494 00:43:55,159 --> 00:44:01,679 Mohadi Reservation, and it's very close when I have the encounter. It's part 495 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:10,719 of the park and there is a more hobby cemetery at about less than a 496 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:20,639 mile to where I work. So reading about those dog men and ski walkers, 497 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,400 I read about ski walkers, they look pretty much I mean, I 498 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,599 don't know if I can call it the same creature, but it looks pretty 499 00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:35,519 much the same. And they know that the Indian tribes described those skin walkers, 500 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:44,320 and they are usually described them as a course or because they've been lands 501 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,639 piecefol landed and being Kurds, or because some very bad crimes between I don't 502 00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:53,840 know, at the time of the West civilization and Indians or whatever happened in 503 00:44:54,039 --> 00:45:05,159 those remote areas and Indian cemetery brooks are usually very possible to have a look 504 00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:13,840 at those scheme walkers or dogments. So that could be a related fuckt about 505 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,920 my encounter. You're right, it just might be related. It's hard to 506 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,920 say, and it does make you wonder. He said it was on all 507 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,679 fours when you saw it, and that it had a hump on its back. 508 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,079 Did it look to you like the top of its hump was higher than 509 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:35,039 its ears? Yeah? Or where I'm looking, Yes, because I could 510 00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:39,199 not see his ears, and I could not see his face because of the 511 00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:45,960 sum position was actually in an handle that I couldn't was not illuminating his face. 512 00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:52,039 So um, I cannot describe that. But yes, the hump was 513 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:59,280 over his head. He was a MP. I would say, almost if 514 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,960 you look like camel, you know, the camel hamp something like that. 515 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:08,400 And those giant shoulders, I mean, those giant shoulders are in my in 516 00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:12,440 my mind, the armp and the giant shoulders. I see this thing. 517 00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:17,079 It's like, what but what he's dead? I mean, it's mussive, 518 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:22,880 it's it's it's I describe it. If I had to describe it one word, 519 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,679 what I see That thing was a beast. That think was not an 520 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,599 anything. That thing was a beast. YEA sounds like that's a great way 521 00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:36,840 to describe it. Did the overall impression you got of it make it seem 522 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:44,519 like it was healthy or somewhat sickly. No, that thing was far away 523 00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:47,880 from being sick. That thing was in good shape. What it tells me 524 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,519 that it was in good shape is that I think the air, the air, 525 00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:59,000 the way it was looking almost like like I see, the color was 526 00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:04,880 like round, and they was long, so they was long and healthy hair. 527 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,679 You know. It was a lot of air and there was long Like 528 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,079 I said, they must have been a ten inch. When you have kind 529 00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:15,199 of long hair and they blow in the wind, that's that's the effect that 530 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,159 I see over there. It was this kind of breeze pushing from the right 531 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,920 side on his hair. And the color, you know, it was it 532 00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:28,519 was this this brownish almost like burned by the sun, you know, when 533 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,719 like a surfer hair, let's say, you know, burned by the sun. 534 00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:35,599 That means that this future, it's in a desert, so it can't 535 00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:38,960 be dark, you know, because all the future they lived in those deserts 536 00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:45,199 and they are like color. They can't have dark hair is because they're gonna 537 00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:47,320 be too warm in the summer. The summer here can't get to one hundred 538 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:52,719 and twenty hundred and twenty two sometimes in the middle of the day, so 539 00:47:53,559 --> 00:48:00,159 they probably by nature or buy whenever they have a different coration on their air. 540 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,400 I will assume myself that if I dog man lives in the bushes or 541 00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:09,119 in a green hurry up, surrounded by trees, surrounded by shade all day, 542 00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:16,480 probably is that would be darker. It's almost like maybe gay war lighter 543 00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:22,199 because of the sun exposure. Being always in the sun. Yeah, being 544 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:28,000 always in the sun. You know, it turned the air or everybody lighter. 545 00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,280 You know, if you go to the beach every day. You know, 546 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,800 I'm kind of a blog guy. If I go to the beach every 547 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,400 day or in the sun every day, my hair turns a little more lifer 548 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:42,000 than you. So that's what I was thinking. Why is this thing that 549 00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:45,880 has not the color of everybody seeing me? Because I'm here stories on the 550 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,679 web and I'm reading and you know, I'm researching right now, and everybody's 551 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,639 talking about this dark black hair, and I'm black. Man. That was 552 00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:00,440 that thing has nothing black? That thing was blood. Thing was hairy, 553 00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:06,440 very hairy, but nothing black. It would go a little darker to his 554 00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:09,840 legs, But I cannot really confirm that because I did not put too much 555 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,440 of a potential in his leg like I say, my counter was very short. 556 00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:19,039 I didn't look at that creature no longer than three four set of max 557 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,960 max. So I cannot really tell nine pards. It's not that far. 558 00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,559 In the middle of the day, you know, you can see pretty much 559 00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:32,639 well. But in those moments when you see something in your mind is doesn't 560 00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:37,800 really look to look really well. In particular, I think you are mostly 561 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,199 shocked and your mind is like they're realizing, what are you looking at? 562 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,159 You know, it's too much going on. That's three four sec I know, 563 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,719 if I explain myself good, But sometimes the mind that cannot really go 564 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,400 at the same speed that you wanted to go because it's like not enough time. 565 00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:02,039 But I can't remember the color very very well. It is pretted in 566 00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:06,800 my mind, the shoulder, the hump, and this air food tweeting in 567 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:14,559 the breeze, looking almost like what anybody can look like that I would say, 568 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,599 the same color of can be a cougar, you know, like like 569 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,639 that we have I mean in the badom. Now of course they have short 570 00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:29,239 hair. They don't have long hair. Yes, the same color, that 571 00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:36,239 kind of gold brown, you know. And I heared people describing tales long 572 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,000 tails or airy tales. But I did not see a tail of this thing 573 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:45,000 when he turns, when it turns and run away from here. So when 574 00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:52,119 he turns and move away in the neck contact rock, I could not see 575 00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,599 anything. He was super fast. Like I said, this thing was fast 576 00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:02,639 and I could describe I was fast as a cat. So imagine putting the 577 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,960 nerves and the action of a cat onto a wharf. This team was fast 578 00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:15,719 onto a wharf. Then on steroids mixed with a human. That's what what's 579 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,760 that's what the nix the old mix that I come out with. It will 580 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,239 it will describe this future that was a mixture of a of a man features 581 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,480 and a wharf feature. That thing was was who had both in the same 582 00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:37,519 DNA. I think the way he was moving, you know, when he 583 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:43,880 moves back and disappeared, it was like wow, I was blowing away. 584 00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:49,239 I still happy time I think about it. I'm still having this picture so 585 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,440 clear in my mind, you know, so clear that I saw it yesterday, 586 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,639 and I believe it's gonna be the same way in a year. I 587 00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,400 don't think I would ever forgot that. Oh, I'm sure you won't. 588 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,079 Yeah, I don't know how you could if you'd like to be able to 589 00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:07,239 listen to the show without ads and have full access to bonus content. That's 590 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,400 an option. To find out how, please go to dog Me and Encounters 591 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,719 dot com Forward Slash podcast. After seeing something like that, though, Walter, 592 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,960 why in the world did you stay? Why didn't you leave immediately? 593 00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:25,519 That's the funny part about it. Why did I stay? Why did I 594 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:31,280 leave? Because I was not even believing did I see it? I was 595 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:37,039 still in a shock state. I was like, I don't even want to 596 00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,199 think about what would have happened, you know what I mean. I was 597 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:45,480 like, I don't know, So why did I stay? Because I did 598 00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:49,920 not figure it out. I did not realize yet. Why a mind didn't. 599 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,320 It doesn't make you realize what I see was there? I like I 600 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,559 say, I think about this as a self protection of myself. That says 601 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,360 nothing was there, That was just a glare, that was just an imagination. 602 00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:10,880 I wasn't really processing that the animal was on the hill. Later on, 603 00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:15,880 when I was looking my back, and then I was like, why 604 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,079 am I keeping looking my back? I see that that thing was there, 605 00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:22,800 and I'm afraid because, like I say, I'm never afraid. I'm a 606 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,480 guy, I really can't go through hella back and just think it's like taking 607 00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:31,360 a walk on the park. But I feel weird that they you know, 608 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:37,400 But I couldn't call it fear yet. The fear came three days after That's 609 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:44,000 when I started to realize and I'm like, wow, I'll go back down 610 00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:47,400 there. But now I'm realizing what I happened that, I'm starting to realize 611 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,920 that that thing was over there looking at me, looking at us, those 612 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,400 two ladies at the dogs. He was fine, he was looking what he 613 00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:01,000 was doing. He was maybe waiting for a portunity to unleash on us. 614 00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:07,280 Who knows. So I'm like, I figured out later I have. It 615 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,400 takes me a wild process all this stuff. I was kind of kind of 616 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,639 a shock. I didn't even want to believe in myself if I was wi 617 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,760 now that didn't happen, That didn't happen after that, almost as a self 618 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:27,360 phoned beacing state of mind. Let's call it like that. People respond in 619 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,920 strange ways when they have dogged me an encounter. So it's not just you. 620 00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:34,760 What's about time for us to get out if you're water, But before 621 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:42,840 we do, do you have any clothing? Comments you'd like to share number 622 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:50,440 seven and those animals are in some way related Because I read something about these 623 00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:54,679 number seven on the seven being on the seven. I don't know that they 624 00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:00,000 was the seven and that being shot, So I don't know if that is 625 00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:06,639 anything co related to that. I'm always been a final number seven. My 626 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:13,119 day of bird is seventy six. I'm kind of surrounded by seven in all 627 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,159 my life, so I don't know if that is any connection. Well, 628 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,119 I'm not too sure there's anything to that. It might just be an old 629 00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:24,840 wives tale about dog man. There might be something to it, but I 630 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,559 don't know. I think the odds are on the side if they're not being 631 00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:31,800 anything to it, But who knows. I guess we'll never know. But 632 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,719 having said that, I want to thank you so much for coming on ensuring 633 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,480 the details of that experience with this water. I really appreciate it. Oh, 634 00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:43,360 it was a great pleasure to share. It was a great pleasure. 635 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,440 You are a great ost. Well, thank you, sir, it's been 636 00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:51,360 great having you on. Thanks again so much for your time, and have 637 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:52,039 a great night.