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April fifth, right around seven pm
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April the sixth, nine am in
Brisbe, Australia. Simon will be joining

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I'm Rusty I haven't done an interview on

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about a week. So here we
go. Our guest joining us tonight,

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as we said, from Brisbane,
Australia, and we've actually I went back

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and look, we've been chatting for
a year now and it's finally great to

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meet them in person and have a
conversation. Please help me. Welcome Simon,

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Simon. How are you doing today, sir, Hey, George.

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It's great to meet you, and
it's great to actually talk with you after

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doing the emails for probably about a
year now. It's an honor and I'm

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very I'm very conscious of the of
the responsibility of you know, all the

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listeners out there who are who are
using their precious time to listen to this

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interview. So hopefully there's something in
my personal journey that that resonates with some

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of the listeners listeners out there,
like we're all on this pathway to discovering

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the truth about the reality of what
we were the world we live in.

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And I think there's some fellowship as
well in this process. We need each

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other. We need to give each
other encouragement and we need confirmation as well.

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You'll have realizations and you want to
share that with someone to go,

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do you see what I'm seeing and
sort of and build that fire, you

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know, yeah, grow great point
all around. And you know, I've

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learned something from every single you know, individual that's come on this podcast,

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and just from having a brief conversation
before we hit the record button. I

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expect to learn quite a bit from
you as well before we do get started

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into our deep dive into your journey
to the truth and flat Earth. Go

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ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. Yeah, certainly. Okay. So

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I'm fifty three. I'm trained as
an electrical engineer and I've worked as an

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engineer for a number of years,
but I've changed my career path quite a

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few times. I've done English teaching
in South Korea for four and a half

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years, and I work prior to
that, worked as an engineer up and

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down the coast of Australia. I've
worked in Switzerland. I've traveled to many

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different countries India, Japan, Germany, South Africa, New Zealand many times.

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And I've done about fifteen years working
at the local university as a lab

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tech for the engineering faculty. So
that's kind of my career experience. I'm

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the eldest of three. I grew
up in Yupom, which is a small

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town near Rockampton. So Brisbane is
the time zone. But I live in

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a small city called Rockampton, about
a population of eighty thousand. We're known

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as the cattle city of Central Queensland. You can look it up. And

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I'm single. I was married,
but I don't think I had relationship skills,

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so I'm back to being single again. But I don't have any kids.

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I think if I had kids,
I would have done everything possible to

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make that work. So I was
raised by a philosopher. My dad's a

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philosopher, so that kind of creeps
into my thinking. I do believe in

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God, and I recently had an
understanding of how Jesus fits into my life,

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which I've shared with George. So
so, George third person, Sorry,

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so do you know who? What
I realized at that time? Excuse

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my nerves stumbling up a few words
there. Yeah, So I like gardening.

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I've got lots of banana trees here, and my dad used to grow

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banana trees as a kid as well. The flying foxes get into them.

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Just throwing some random stuff out there. I've recently got my driver my rider's

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driver's license from a motorcycles. That's
a big achievement. And now I'm sort

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of sending retired. I do your
door dash. You got have probably a

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DoorDash over there, so Ian some
money from that. And I've got a

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couple of housemates. That's awesome.
And I'd like to ask a few questions

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just on the brief things that you
mentioned there in your introduction. What was

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South Korea like and what what did
you take away from South Korea? A

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great question. Look, I absolutely
love the country. I miss it not

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all the time, but I think
about it quite frequently. The food,

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You've got to try Korean food,
you know, it's I mean, I

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love all Asian food, but Korean
food it's just so delicious. I'm sure

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everyone knows about Korean barbecue for example. They're very friendly people. If they

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if you meet them through teaching,
you know, if you have an adult

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class, I'll invite you to the
home or want to show you around the

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city. They're extremely friendly. I
just love them. Yeah, my father

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was a huge Kim Chief fan.
Kimsey, that's right, that's an aquality

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taste. I wasn't a huge fan
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said, I wasn't a big fan
of it. It's an acquired taste,

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but that is it. It's definitely
healthy though, if you can stomach it,

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and then it's interesting. I've done
a lot of podcast on my The

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Fact Hunter about Switzerland and you know, you've got cern over there, You've

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got the World Economic Forum, the
banking headquarters for Yeah, you've got Geneva,

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and a lot of people say,
you know, London is really the

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capital of the banking world, but
the Bank of International Settlements where everything you

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know meets it ahead, is in
Man. I'm blanking on the city,

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but that's in Switzerland as well.
What was your takeaway of Switzerland? Oh?

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Look, geographically just a magnificent country. What Australia Shellia is pretty much

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a flat country. We've got heels
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like the Snow Mountains where people go
to do skiing, but by and large

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it's a flat country. So you
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vertical dimensioned the mountains, the valleys. It's just so spectacular. I think

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Swiss are very proud of their heritage. I got introduced to other other things,

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like I used to like techno music, so I first discovered that in

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Switzerland. I had my first mobile
fine in Switzerlandland. I used to roll

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a blade there. Yeah, it's
There's one thing about Swiss is that you

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could they're very proud of their heritage, I guess, yeah, and they

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have a strong sense of identity.
Sure, yeah, absolutely. And one

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thing I always you know, I
traveled through Europe for a while there,

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all the way from Croatia, Hungary, Austria, Germany, that whole area

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up there, and for Americans to
see the way they utilize transportation. I've

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never been to Australia, so I'm
not sure how big public transportation is there,

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but most of Europe really moves around
on public transportation, and people remark

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about how advanced it is compared to
especially here in the United States, where

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you see, you know, every
day there seems to be a news story

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coming from New York City where someone
is assaulted or even killed in the subway.

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How could you comment on the public
transportation system over there and how it

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differs from the rest of the world. He raise a very good point,

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like the trains would run exactly on
time. They're very Laura Biding I experienced

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the same thing in Korea. They
had a very good public transport system as

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well. Korea was nine for their
internet as well. I mean it was

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holly developed from twenty years ago.
Even Yeah, I just keep thinking about

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how beautiful the country was, and
they would build everything extremely well, like

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all the houses and all the apartment
buildings would have nuclear bomb shelters. Really,

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I think they had a big fear
of nuclear war. I remember the

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big heavy steel concrete doors that were
that were down in the basement area for

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example. That's interesting the country that
is the neutral country and never really been

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involved in a war. That's interesting
to know that they had the Oh yeah,

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every male has keeps their weapons.
They trained in the military and they

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have the weapons at home ready to
go. So good luck invading that country,

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you know. And it's funny Switzerland, that's one thing most people don't

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know. It's I think it's a
law that you have to maintain a weapon

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in that country if you're male.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's

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a And one of those little known
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philosopher, and in many aspects,
I think philosophy encourages critical thinking. Did

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your father have a big influence on
your critical thinking skills. Good question.

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When I think about my dad's influence, I remember being very young, about

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eight or nine years old, and
I was suddenly realized that that the I

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thought about the concept of death,
and it really scared me. And I

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think that that's when Dad told me
about God and it gave me a lot

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of peace. And philosophy allows me. It allows me to process the experiences

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I have in life and find peace. And you know, I can get

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philosophical about things, so so it
certainly help. It's been very helpful in

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my life. There's something else that's
got to mention, and it's just slip

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on line that's annoying. That's that's
a goodt you made, though, because

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I recalled being younger too and the
thought of death. I think the first

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real big thing was I remember,
I think in nineteen seventy nine, nineteen

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eighty and Wars got killed. He
was the president of Egypt at the time,

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and that was a big deal.
But the one thing that really got

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me as a young person I might
have been a young teenager was the move

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bombing in Philadelphia. It was these
it was a group they called themselves a

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Black Liberation organization and the mayor dropped
a bomb on the roof and it caught

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fire and all these people were burned
alive inside. And as a young person,

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when you see these events like that, it is borderline traumatizing because you

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know, I talked to people who
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years old when nine to eleven happened, and that impacted them very deeply.

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Even as an adult during wake Go
watching you know, April nineteenth ninety three,

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watching that building burn and knowing that
there was people in there, it

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is very traumatic and it does make
you question, you know, the afterlife

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if you will, and these it's
sad that these type of events have to

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happen for us to you know,
maybe I should get closer to God,

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right, hmmm. That's the second
thing I was going to mention was critical

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thinking. I feel. I think
that I'm pretty much a very emotional person.

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I think of Italians and how expressive
and emotional they can get. They

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get very passionate. They talk about
I'm not Italian. My milneages from Scotland

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and Holland. Those are the two
roots of my ancestry. But I found

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that a lifetime of doing engineering and
as a lab tech. That helped me

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with my critical thinking, so it
really gave me a lot of balance to

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my emotional nature. I can sit
there and analogze things logically and rationally,

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and and we've got some good caveats
now into the meat of the main topic

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here. You know you mentioned nine
to eleven. Yes, I remember being

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in Korea and the big television there
and watching the plans crash into the building.

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Uh. Those are moments you will
just never forget. They just stand

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out so clearly. I remember when
Princess Diana died in the tunnel when he

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was she was getting chased by the
paparazzi, and there was a whole bunch

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of conspiracy theory about that that came
out years later. You talk about Waco.

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I also remember that event too,
So so these events so like I

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think everyone knows about them. It's
just amazing. Now something made me think

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about this whole, the whole vaccine
thing, like we all need to talk

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about it, right, I mean, that's that's the big one. And

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I don't know if you were going
to lead into that at some point directly,

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but U I think that's where critical
thinking helped me. So I'm trained

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as an engineer. What that means
is that you can't just throw a solution

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at a problem. You'll blow up
a lot of equipment, you waste money,

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you could probably even cause injury,
you know, electrocution whatever. Because

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I'm trained in an electrical field,
and I just instinctively, you know,

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when I heard about the emergency youth
authorization, I thought, hang on,

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let's think about this. Logically,
most vaccines take at least ten years of

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testing, right, and they're very
very careful before they roll out, unless,

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of course, you listen to the
audiobook by the Kennedy guy. He

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talks about see now names of my
real week point here, Yeah, Robert,

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Robert F. Kennedy Junior. I
think, great, yeah, yeah,

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yeah. I got halfway through that
and I just could the stomach anymore.

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Because I'm a very empathetic person and
I'm very good at visualization, I

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just couldn't get any get through anything
for more of it. But the point

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is that I thought, no,
you can't just throw out in most of

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you authorization and then it's going to
work. That's Russian roulette. So because

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I was trained as an engineer,
I just put the brakes on that.

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But we were there was a blitzkrig
style approach to rolling out this attack on

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human race, and I could sense
it for what it was, and fortunately

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for me, I stopped watching television. The TV. My dad used to

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call the TV the idiot boox.
And it's interesting that you got this idea

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of TV program I always thinking about
programmers in computer programming, so we call

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TV show also a TV program.
And essentially it's it's subconsciously programming your mind,

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so whate you whatever you look at. It's like those three monkeys,

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and I'm jumping around over the place. But he and evil seeing evil speak

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no evil, and so you've really
got to be careful about what you look

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at and what you listen to because
it just goes straight into your sub consciousness

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and it forms the base of your
understanding for your reality. And instead I'm

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kicking in the philosopher overdrive now.
But I think these analogies do make sense

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because there's that engineering aspect to it
as well. And there's that really creepy

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guy who talks about hacking the human
body. Well he does essentially look at

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the human body as just a biological
machine. And I can understand that analogy

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from an engineering perspective, but I
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biological level, that's true, but
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I know that the term spiritual gets
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But what I'm talking about is the
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that's what inhabits the space within our
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don't mind, but there's something I
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It's a huge topic, and that
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us, you know, except maybe
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bananas growing on my tree and cute
cats and stuff like this, it's it's

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about separating us from the creator.
So there's all this sort of there's all

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this there's so much going on right
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look upon our body as a physical
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temple to the Holy Spirit. And
we need to maintain that temple so that

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the Holy Spirit is willing to inhabit
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that? That gives us the blessings
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empathy, hope, joy, intelligence, the capacity to see beauty in

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this world. Now, if we
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We no longer make it a hospitable
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keeps us connection with God. Now
the temple is violated through drugs, chemicals,

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and I hope no one gets too
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personal opinion is tattoos do damage your
body as well. But that's a personal

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opinion. I'm not only attack anybody
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my personal thoughts. So we were
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that our mental and physical space to
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with God, because that's really the
only thing that's getting us through on our

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own. Really, honestly, George, I'm a little bit dumb, even

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though I'm in trainer as an engineer. I've got a high score. I've

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got a very good score at university
high school. Sorry, I've done some

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really stupid things in my life and
it made me realize that I need to

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have God there. God, I
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to survive. So that's a bit
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put out there. But this vaccine, for example, I mean I've been

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a big Alex Jones fans for a
long long time, and I know your

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opinion, I know your thoughts on
Alex Jones and and I'm not really debating

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that, but it has been a
delivery mechanism for a lot of information that

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I have processed in my mind.
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alone, I think it would be
I think there's a danger in glorifying evil

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too much. When I say glorifying, I mean focusing just on evil all

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the time and emotionally reacting to evil
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is you're actually empowering evil. And
that suits, that suits the purpose of

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Satan just fine, right absolutely,
And there is that's a distruction, right

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yep, yep. And I think
we touched on on the Creator all the

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times. Sorry no no, I
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touched on that briefly before we hit
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big difference between cognizant of something,
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it twenty four seven three sixty five, because that, like you said,

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it empowers evil, but it also
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There you go, So that's stealing
your joy. You see see how

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the enemy works. The enemy working
on us all the time. Absolutely,

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But if you're aware of it,
and if this I'm a big believer in

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humility, I say, humble yourself
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on pride. You can do what
you want, you know everything, you

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don't need anyone. Da da da
da da da da. And then look

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what happens down down the road.
You're in a lot of trouble. I

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say, pride comes before the fall. That's right. And so I'm a

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big believer in humility. You've got
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And so I don't mean to turn
this into a sermon or something,

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but now you're on a roll.
You're doing trendous job, you know,

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sharing your your thoughts and your you
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spoke about before we hit the record
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to you know, they say practice
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a podcast. We do talk about
the evils of the world. And pride

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is something that they have put out
in the forefront. Probably over the last

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ten to twelve years. They have
really been pushing pride and about me,

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about the individual, about you.
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not just saying particular generation z.
I'm just saying we're to time. I

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guess that's the proper word to use. That we're in a time where it's

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about us, the selfie. You
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we focus on ourselves and it goes
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you know, pride before the fall. So we do need more humility in

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this time. The thing, one
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is the full inversion. So division. You can see division at work in

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nearly every society now divided on on
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ab our blood is red, you'll
bleed red. You know, we've got

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so much in common. But but
if we but we'll always find something different.

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We can always argue about something.
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just division. So we've got division
on race, age, religion. Religion

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is an easy one to pick on
politics, diet, what's the shape of

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this world? We're living in?
Stuff like this And I've got this cap,

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a one nation cap. Now I'm
not a political person, but I

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just picked it up. It's that's
basically the mega version. Uh. You

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know America got maga make make a
great America great again. Well that's that's

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Australia's equivalent to that, that mindset, which is one nation. But but

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see the division is the opposite to
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want everything broken up. Now that's
something I remember seeing down at Port Arthur

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and we talked about that, I
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in Port Arthur. So this country
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which were the which were prisoners,
excess prisoners from England. Uh, and

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they were sending to America. And
then America basically gained its independence of the

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American Civil War, not civil war, sorry, war of independence. What's

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it called, George the independence for
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yeah, so then sending its convicts
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the camps there, the Stone Camps
prisons. Sorry, they showed a picture

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of how the prison was structured and
every prisoner was in their own cubicle facing

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a central point where the gods would
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prisoner could talk to each other.
So there was total division there, and

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that's how you you weaken the power
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you can in the other one is
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you take the natural order of things
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Again, this is this is something
that may trigger people. I never knew

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this term until a few years ago, but it is my heartfelt opinion that

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the man is the spiritual head of
the home. And why I say that

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is because he's there to protect the
home from the enemy, right, He's

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there to protect it from other men
and from and above that, you've got

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Jesus and then God and that's the
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that doesn't mean that man is superior
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their roles are different. The woman
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that is to nurture children. I
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And if you don't have love,
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in your heart. You will have
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life. Because this is something I've
experienced personally, right, So I'm not

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hating on my mom I'm not blaming
my mom. This is a practical reality

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and you can try and fulfill that
with relationships. And you're wondering why everyone

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seems to let you down, it's
because you're trying to fill a black hole

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and abysin inside you that could have
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So women are extremely important. I
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the home. It's like this the
center of a spoked wheel. If you

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don't have that there, the spokes
don't have anything to connect to, and

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a man is outside protecting that area. He's the guardian of the home,

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you know. He's the one that
you know the teenaged order dresses very in

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a provocative way or say darling,
I love you. But if you go

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out that way, boys is going
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you need to be ready for that. And I'm not trying to control you.

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But it's my job to give you
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can make better decisions. So it's
a shame that men have been painted there

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as this draconian oligarchs patriarchal oligarchs are
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people. I don't believe that's the
truth. You met very good. You

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made a very good point that I
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is I think in this time,
maybe over the last twenty, maybe even

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thirty years, where parents are more
worried about being their children friends than assuming

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the proper role of a parent.
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go back to military analogies. They
move people around every three or four years

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just so you don't develop a friendship
within the ranks, because there has to

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be a role, there has to
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are is something that we don't see
as much of, and it comes off

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of just you know, at look
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I don't know if it's because there's
so many people growing up in broken homes

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or people again are more worried about
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it's discipline or just common interactions with
people here locally, there's no politeness.

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I simon, and when I was
fourteen years old, if I was anywhere,

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if I was church about as a
restaurant, if I didn't say sir

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or ma'am, I was going to
get it from my dad. That just

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doesn't exist anymore. Mmmm. So
yeah, so that's just all that's just

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all work of the enemy. And
the thing is that being a truther is

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that you're in a position where you
where you can see where things coming from.

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You're no longer blind. You know, you know, you know the

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en. We're on a battlefielder here, okay, and you know the you

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know the psyche of the enemy,
and you know who, and you know

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where your strength and your wisdom and
everything else is coming from. So you

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knew that the two principal players on
this battlefield are you know who they are?

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Sorry, one of my hands off
the screen. And I think that's

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that's what we need. You can't
afford to be ignorant anymore. That's not

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ignorance, really isn't an option.
And I think that ties in, that's

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a nice caveat into the big sub
which hope we don't run out of time

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as the whole the flatter thing and
people saying, well, why does it

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matter? But it matters because you
need to because it's part of the truth,

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and you need to know the truth
in order to navigate through this war

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zone. And that doesn't mean that
you're in conflict yourself personally. I use

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the word navigate, So just like
in a ship, you don't have to

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crash onto the rocks. You see
where the rocks are, you see where

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the shallows are, because you've got
the cartography, the maps, and you

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navigate through all these dangers. So
this is very essential information. But what

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I noticed is that again I use
the term enemy, the enemy. What

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they do is what it does,
and what they do is they paint truth

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seekers and anyone speaking the truth with
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It's quite slanderous, actually, and
they try to associate someone who's sending

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up with a truth with something that
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It's quite a clever trick, you
know, like you know these terms,

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all the isms that they it's it's
almost like a knee jerk reaction. As

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soon as someone tries to point out
an issue, you get labeled with something.

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And it's such an effective tool to
shut people, shut people down,

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and and people will just wall off. Okay, well we won't dig into

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that any further. And again that's
another excellent lead in because you think about

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it, from an early age,
we're told what reality is, you know,

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that's the education system. And you
know, I've worked in the education

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system. I've got my career.
I worked as an English teacher in South

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Korea for four and a half years. I was a lab tech at university

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for fifteen years. I've worked in
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why don't they ever teach us anything
about our personal health, maintaining our

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personal health, how to find peace, how to negotiate with people, how

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to deal with people who are mentally
unstable or or just upset, how to

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deal with yourself when you're upset.
It's not always about everyone else, it's

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also ourselves. Why don't they teach
us life skills because they don't want us

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to be strong and self aware,
you know, they train us to be

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pieces of machinery. They just go
into a machine and produce unit X or

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Unit Y until we were out and
we're broken, and then we're just replaced.

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That's right. I think Rockefeller was
the one who said, I don't

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want a nation of thinkers, I
want a nation of war workers. Oh

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saying it being and saying you're a
critical think is probably the most threatening thing

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that you can be in terms of
those that want to maintain the status quo.

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You know, think about it.
It's all about the question. Yeah,

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the answers out there, but the
financewers. You've got to ask the

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question. The power is in the
question. If you can figure out what

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that question is, you can just
unlock and disassemble a whole bunch of stuff,

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you know. And if you don't
know what the question is, just

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say why why do I have to
wear this mask? I wore that mask

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for probably a week and I just
said, I can't breathe through this stupid

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thing. This is crazy. Yeah, and I can see you wear glasses.

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There's nothing more frustrating than wearing that
thing. Your glasses get off,

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fugged up. It's a mess.
Yeah. Yeah, I had to start

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doing. I prided myself and my
ability to see things, and probably from

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a few years ago. To start
wearing glasses is a lifetime of sitting in

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front of a computer. Means you've
got IRSI and one joint and you start

408
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:10.599
need to wear glasses, you know. So look again, I'm conscious of

409
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:15.000
all the listeners to this show,
and whatever I say, please, you

410
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:16.920
know, if you want, just
take it with a pinch of salt.

411
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:21.480
I'm not trying to I am not
trying to change anyone. I'm not trying

412
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.960
to influence anyone. This is just
my personal thoughts. I ultimately I believe

413
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:31.239
in don't do power over people,
don't cause harm, respect people. I

414
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:36.199
honestly believe that we have freedom of
choice. We were given freedom to choose

415
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.159
what we want to do, and
that's why all these things are happening in

416
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:43.280
this world is because we have freedom
of choice. But what we don't have

417
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:49.559
is freedom from the consequences of those
choices that's locked in. Those are the

418
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:53.280
rules. That's the bedrock of this
reality that we existing and that was created

419
00:35:53.280 --> 00:36:01.840
by our creator. So it really
is appropriate to figure out what those rules

420
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.719
are. You know that then you
can that leads to smarter decision making.

421
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:13.239
Absolutely. You know. The first
email I got from me, like I

422
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.519
said, was about a year ago, and you had mentioned that there was

423
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:23.079
a YouTuber divergent that made you start
noticing the truth right in front of you,

424
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:28.480
and you put in I Guess flat
Earth into the podcast search and you

425
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.199
found us. But it's interesting going
back and reading it. You said it

426
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:37.280
was obvious yesterday morning looking at the
sunrise, How could the sun rays be

427
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:42.400
shining down at such different angles if
it's supposed to be so far away,

428
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.360
and you said, even using trigonometry, it's easy to see that the sun

429
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.400
is actually much smaller than our known
world, and it is sitting just above

430
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:57.760
the clouds. And it is when
you finally break through the matrix and all

431
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:01.320
the things that we're told and we
start believing what we're seeing versus what we're

432
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:09.599
told. It's a pretty amazing thing. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah,

433
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:13.000
that's something I think about all the
time. And I'll be lying and

434
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:15.960
lying in my bed or just doing
something and I'm just sort of thinking in

435
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.079
the back of mind, just turning
this idea over in my mind over and

436
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:25.679
over again. And the first time
I remember watching the Divergent videos, it

437
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.440
just popped up my YouTube feed for
some reason. I think they've got an

438
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.760
AI algorithm, and the AI knows
you better than you know yourself sometimes.

439
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.280
And the first time I saw it, it was too much. It was

440
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:44.840
just too it was just too different
to my understanding of what reality was.

441
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.000
And I almost had to take a
step back. And then a period of

442
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.280
time passed and then I went back
in and had a look at it,

443
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:59.320
and I started thinking about what the
guy was saying now I think he's he's

444
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:06.519
not particularly religious, he's probably probably
eight years. But again it's a delivery

445
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.440
mechanism. So this is where the
engineering kicks. And you just look at

446
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:16.440
the information and you go, does
this information make sense? And I was

447
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:22.800
just sketching out something on my notebook
the other day actually looking at some information.

448
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:29.719
Some data points, like the diameter
of the Sun is one point roughly

449
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:34.760
one point four million kilometers, now, of course being Australia US kilometers not

450
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:39.519
miles, so please excuse that in
diameter. The Earth is about twelve point

451
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:45.599
seven thousand kilometers in diameter, but
the two are separated by Let me try

452
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.920
and get this number around one hundred
and forty nine nearly one hundred and fifty

453
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:54.119
million kilometers. Now, if you
scale that as though the diameter of the

454
00:38:54.199 --> 00:39:00.440
Earth is just a unit of one, then the Sun is eighteen times bigger.

455
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:07.280
And the Sun is still eleven nearly
twelve thousand earth units away. So

456
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:15.239
that means that the the angle of
the Sun's rays the steepest angle apart from

457
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:21.320
Australian that's zero degrees. Okay,
if it's directly coming in the steepest angle,

458
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.960
get this is point zero zero zero
zero zero zero one two degrees.

459
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.440
Okay, you see how many zeros
are there. I mean, it's just

460
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:37.679
about parallel. Okay. Now,
if you're standing there and you're looking at

461
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.239
the sunrise and sunset whatever, and
the sun rays are literally coming out at

462
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:46.760
every different angle, well that's not
that's not point zero zero zero zero zero

463
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:54.079
zero one two degrees is it's it's
just impossible. The only way that sun

464
00:39:54.079 --> 00:40:00.360
could produce angles of light are those
different directions if it was the sitting right

465
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:04.760
behind the cloud, like right behind
it. As you pull that sun back

466
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:10.400
further and further away, like,
let's try and do this. Okay,

467
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.840
it's on video, so it's probably
not going to translate through a podcast.

468
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:20.760
And I've got my job olive leaf
extract tablets and a little round circle thing.

469
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.119
Now, as I pull it further
away, yes, okay, only

470
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:29.199
the parallel light is going to come
past those clouds. But as you bring

471
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.079
it up closer and closer, yeah, those sun rays are going to be

472
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:37.079
pointing more more at more extreme angles
around the cloud. It's just so obvious.

473
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.639
You know, that's way of the
biggest one. But then you look

474
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:50.119
at the horizon line and the clouds
don't bend around the horizon, right,

475
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:57.360
if there's curvature, Like I was
a big science fiction fan, and there's

476
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.800
this idea of a I forget what
it's called. It's like a physical construction

477
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:06.119
of a giant ring, like the
computer game Halo, which I'm an ex

478
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.559
game. I used to love playing
Halo. There were Halo rings and on

479
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:14.320
inside of the ring were mountains and
seas and rivers, so fantastic, and

480
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:20.039
you could see the clouds bending around
the inside curvature of the ring, and

481
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.360
there's this artificial sun or a real
sun in the center of the ring.

482
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.360
Well, the same would be the
case if we were sitting on a globe.

483
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.559
Those clouds would be bending as they
go around the globe. But they

484
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:36.360
don't. They taper off to a
pin almost a pinpoint where it's just basically

485
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:40.239
a white line. If you get
enough altitude you can see you're gonna be

486
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.000
on top of a mountain or a
hill that actually see this, and it's

487
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.559
completely straight. The horizon line has
no band to it as far as you

488
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.679
can see and look a lot of
these things have been already touched on probably

489
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:58.199
a million times by other flat earthers
in the community. Now, there's one

490
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:05.639
guy that I follow on Facebook and
he does some great videos, uh you

491
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:13.199
know, the the flight paths for
example, and he'll actually show why does

492
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:17.480
this plane go above this Green Island
or Iceland before it comes back down to

493
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.559
somewhere in Europe? And he'll say, before you guys, have a go

494
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.440
at met because I'm used showing you
on a flat map. Here's a globe

495
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.719
and you get this thing which is
like a bendable ruler, but it's a

496
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.800
straight ruler, so it can bend. But I mean wraps at round in

497
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:36.280
CoA c. It's still below this
island, So why would you go around

498
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.079
the island like that? Just wasting
aviation fuel? Yeah, and I thought

499
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:45.400
that too because I traveled a lot
internationally in the military, and on those

500
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.480
long flights you had, they always
had the map showing your current and I'm

501
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.679
like, why are we not going
straight across? Why are we doing this

502
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:58.159
curve? None of it made any
sense, But it's it's the Again.

503
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.679
I preach so many things. People
say, well, how do we fix

504
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:06.039
this? How do we fix this? I honestly believe it starts with the

505
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:10.199
education system. It needs to be, especially here in America. It has

506
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:15.599
to be completely rebuilt, and it
should be even below the state. It

507
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:21.719
should be community based education, and
many of the things that you mentioned earlier

508
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:25.360
should be included gardening. But again, those are things that the controllers see

509
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:30.960
is dangerous and they just want us
thirteen years. At the city of Baltimore,

510
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:35.639
forty five minutes from me, there's
so many people who graduate thirteen years

511
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:40.519
of school and they can't read.
It's just really sad. Yeah, that's

512
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:44.559
right. So what's the point of
what's the real point of the education system

513
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:51.239
is to disable us actually, and
to incapacitate us and fill our head out

514
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.800
with stuff that's just useless information.
Most of it's useless and not a mass

515
00:43:54.840 --> 00:44:00.280
that I studied was incredible. Now, I don't use any masks for multiplied

516
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:06.079
divide when I'm figuring out going to
do my tax return and how much money

517
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:10.400
I've earned, and I just do
that on a spreadsheet. Anyway, there's

518
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.920
a there's an expression, and again
I'm at the resk of defending a whole

519
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.800
swathe of people. I heard this
expression that the priests would use, which

520
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.480
was get them when they're six,
and you've got them for life. So

521
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:29.000
if they can introduce their belief system. And this is a bit close to

522
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.679
home, so I'm got a bit
careful here, But the idea of getting

523
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:39.599
getting this constructive information into a person's
mind and their formative years, it's very,

524
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:45.280
very hard for them to separate that
out because it's in the bedrock of

525
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:50.960
their subconscious. So you planted this
stuff in right at the very early stage

526
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.639
of their life, and they can't
actually break free from that after that.

527
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:59.800
So yeah, it does keep coming
back to the education system. And I

528
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:07.599
know you've talked about homeschooling with other
guests on the show, and I think

529
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.280
we only we only need a few
people to to hold society together, just

530
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.199
a handful, just to keep the
power stations going and keep everything going.

531
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:21.480
We're at a point now where technology
is allowed allowed us a lot of us

532
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.920
really to be kind of not really
very very useful, and we can still

533
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:31.760
get food and shelter and everything else
as long as there's a handful. Unfortunately,

534
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.000
though, you know you've heard this
useless eaters termed by Bill Gates.

535
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:45.000
Uh. This, guys, they're
they're really they really need to get back

536
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.760
to reality, you know, like, guys, get out of your mansions

537
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:51.679
and start working for a living you
know, go and do get your hands

538
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:57.960
dirty some gardening. There's a lot
to be said for reconnecting with nature,

539
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.000
and we're getting re in touch with
reality. I think they've got this,

540
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:06.400
They've got this God syndrome thing happening. They sort of think that they're God's

541
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.679
and I've heard that that Lucifer Satan
says that we can all be God's.

542
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:15.239
Well, but wasn't that the whole
core issue Satan. Satan basically said,

543
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:16.119
well, I want to be a
God too, and God say no,

544
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:21.079
you can't, there's only one,
and so he got thrown out of heaven.

545
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:25.360
But Satan hasn't given up on that, on that that mindset, and

546
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:29.960
that's what that's where pride comes in. Oh, you can do everything yourself,

547
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.079
you don't need anyone because you're a
god, aren't you? And then

548
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.519
you see all this this horrible destructive
behavior coming out of it because once you

549
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:43.920
remove again I'm getting getting a preachure
here, But once you remove God out,

550
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:49.119
what what would you expect except hell? You know, why would it

551
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:53.119
be good? You're gonna You're gonna
have hell on earth. And that's what

552
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:58.440
they're pushing toward, right, They
really are oh exactly. Yeah, I'll

553
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.320
make my kingdom here. Then that's
fine, that's it, That's exactly it.

554
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.760
How did how did flat earth change
your life? You know, people

555
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.199
come on and for some people they
got it and understood it moved on.

556
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:14.599
For some people, like myself,
it was a bit of a struggle and

557
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:20.960
reprogramming and accepting different things. How
did it affect you once you understood that

558
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.679
we were on a flat plane with
the antarctica, you know, encircling us

559
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:30.079
versus we live on a ball hurtling
through space. Yeah, yeah, look,

560
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:36.480
great question. And I know how
other people responded. They've been quite

561
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:43.119
stunned at the realization. Almost feel
sad. I didn't have this major,

562
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:46.440
you know, two weeks some just
blowing away moment because I was like Geesez,

563
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:50.119
I wonder what that would have felt
like, but I was I was

564
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.639
just like, as you said,
I shared that moment with you when I

565
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.480
was in another city driving along and
I saw the clouds and I realized I

566
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.840
had to pull over for a moment
and just look at it and just con

567
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:07.840
and played significance of it. And
I still do that even now. It's

568
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:21.760
still quite wondrous to me. And
so there wasn't one big stunning personal transformation

569
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.880
moment. It's more like, oh, okay, And then I applied that

570
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:30.679
up grade to my understanding on everything
that I knew, and I could upgrade

571
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:35.800
everything. I could upgrade all the
knowledge and see things with a clearer perspective,

572
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:39.039
you know. Like example, why
the rockets keep bending before they try

573
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:43.800
to escape Earth, Well, because
they can't escape Earth. They just go

574
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:45.840
up and then they bend over and
they land somewhere else, you know,

575
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:52.320
or they crash into the frament like
like elon musk rockets. They keep hitting

576
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.440
it, you know, and I
go, oh, yeah, that looks

577
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.800
like waves and yeah, so I
can't understand it because there's water on top

578
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:05.920
of it. It's just like doing
that and yeah. So the other aspect

579
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.960
of that is that I'm kind of
a bit of a hermit, so I

580
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:14.119
don't really have any much of a
social group. It's probably why I'm so

581
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:20.760
nervous doing this interview actually, so
I didn't really have many people. It

582
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:29.000
didn't really impact on me socially.
And also some of the mind that people

583
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:35.800
can be quite cruel when you present
them with an idea or a perspective or

584
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:38.599
opinion that differs to their own.
And this is great because I wanted to

585
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:44.079
touch on this. We are so
driven to be part of the group,

586
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.800
like this is the hurt mentality.
We do it. We do it because

587
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:53.719
we need to feel safe and secure, right, And of course anyone that

588
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:59.320
doesn't conform to that is a threat
to the herd, which is why there

589
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:02.239
was so much towards anyone who wasn't
getting the jab or putting their mask on

590
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:07.119
or whatever. We were treated as
a threat to the herd. So there's

591
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.880
that whole conformity thing. And I've
always been aware of that, which is

592
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:15.239
why I've tended to keep my opinions
to myself. And I've been used to

593
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:21.840
doing that. But I at the
same time, I like to make oblique

594
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.719
comments or sort of indirect comments about
things rather than taking things head on.

595
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.119
And I'll say things like, just
you know, it's just amazing how we're

596
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:35.000
spending at one thousand miles per hour. For some reason, it's easier to

597
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.880
remember than in kilometers per hour.
You know, one thousand, six hundred

598
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:44.519
and sixty six kilometers per hour.
How does clouds hold the geosynchronous position perfectly

599
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.559
still when there's no win? Those
clouds don't move. It's amazing. I

600
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:52.360
actually said this to the guy once
who's he knew everything. I was a

601
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:53.880
very intelligent guy, so I just
you know, it's amazing. I think,

602
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.159
oh, yeah, that's the force
of gravity, you know, and

603
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:02.079
electrical something something, and yeah,
that makes no sense at all. But

604
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:07.719
I'm not going to argue with you. It's sort of like, if I

605
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:15.159
use the political example, the reason
for all the problems in the world is

606
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.199
because of Trump, right, I
mean we know that, you know,

607
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:21.880
Trump is the reason why everything is
wrong with the world. That's right,

608
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:27.679
you know that's right. So I'm
not necessarily pro jump, right, I'm

609
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.639
Australian. What has it got to
do with me. It's got nothing to

610
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:31.760
do with me, right, Although
I do tend to lean towards I think

611
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:35.719
the selection is going to have some
big impacts around the world, for sure.

612
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.960
But see now I've lost my thread. What was I saying? I

613
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:49.480
think this is the cam trials George, Oh my good. Yeah, they've

614
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.159
been spreading here like crazy. We've
had rain all week long, this is

615
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.519
and then we had an earthquake today. I think this is the second earthquake

616
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:59.239
that I ever felt on the East
Coast. And I mean I was in

617
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:01.800
the military movement around, but it's
very rare for us to have an earthquake

618
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:06.320
here on the East coast. And
this afternoon, I think it was a

619
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.880
four point eight hit New Jersey,
which is right next to us, and

620
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:15.000
a little further up north where we
live. My sisters and friends they felt

621
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:16.800
it. We found it a little
bit here. But again, we are

622
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:21.960
really and I'll ask you this,
how much of this do you think is

623
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.840
actually whether it be harp or other
things like Operation Popeye that they used in

624
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.920
Vietnam to plant the cloud seeds and
to forest rain, how much of the

625
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:36.199
weather and earthquakes and these things are
manipulated? And obviously we know they have

626
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.239
technology much more advanced than what we
know of, But sticking with the weather

627
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:45.239
and earthquake theme, how much of
that do you think is controlled? Yeah?

628
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:49.239
Look, great question. This is
my mindset? Is this. I

629
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.280
keep an open mind on everything.
That doesn't mean I'm tolerant of everything.

630
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:57.480
I'm talking about information and I just
wait, You've got to have patience,

631
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.239
Just got to wait. Keep an
open mind, don't block information, don't

632
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:05.079
prematurely filter out information, keep it
in mind, and let the chips fall

633
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.199
where they may. It's like it's
jigsaw puzzle. It's a massive jig so

634
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.960
puzzle and you've just got to allow
the pieces to just slowly drop into place

635
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.039
and be patient. So I have
a definitely open open mind on that.

636
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:22.000
This is termed plausible deniability. So
I think that is a fantastic way,

637
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:27.880
and I use that word in a
rather ludicrous application of that word. This

638
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:37.280
is not fantastic way of conducting warfare
is where the warfare and geo warfare because

639
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:38.639
you, oh, well, it's
got nothing to do with us. Whereas

640
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:42.679
if someone drops a bomb, well, if you find the serial code on

641
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.280
it, you can you can find
out where it was manufactured. Right.

642
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:47.800
I'm not an person, but that
was my understanding is you can do it

643
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:52.119
forensics on it and identify where it
came from. Absolutely. So yeah,

644
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.880
it's like it's like that Maui thing, you know, like, oh,

645
00:53:54.880 --> 00:54:00.880
there were just fives and you know
it's an electrical fault. Okay, amazing

646
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:04.239
how the aluminium on those cars melted
and yet the trees right next to it

647
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.239
and not burnt down. I remember
seeing it the first time, and jeesuz,

648
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.920
that was horrifying, you know,
because I could see the truth of

649
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:14.000
it, like there was I had
no filter. My head was not in

650
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.079
the sand, okay, like the
Ostrich sticks its head in the sand.

651
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:22.559
So I could see it for what
it was directly, and I almost had

652
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:28.559
to take I almost reeled in shock
because it hit me to the core that

653
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:31.480
the evil of it, you know, it just it was just so it

654
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:36.079
just throcked me, you know,
so I had to take a step back.

655
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:39.320
And you mentioned that before. We've
got to keep a balance on that,

656
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:44.800
otherwise it can overwhelm us. And
I think ultimately that's one of the

657
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.320
goals of the enemy is to disturb
you and Rocky, to create a disturbance

658
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:52.840
in your psyche, you know.
And I don't want to bounce around,

659
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.599
but something I meant to ask you
earlier, And forgive me for not answering

660
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.679
or asking you at that point.
But you know, back in twenty twenty

661
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:05.679
twenty one, et cetera, I
felt like when I was doing my radio

662
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:07.480
show, I was on three times
a week, meant much of my time

663
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:15.000
was spent talking about the tyranny that
was going on in Australia. How did

664
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:19.079
you, Oh yeah, how was
it for you? Again? When you

665
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:23.519
think of countries like New Zealand and
Canada and Australia. Prior to twenty twenty,

666
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:29.159
I didn't think of those places as
like these tyrannical strongholds, and I

667
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:31.079
was amazed. Well even here,
we had a lot of it here in

668
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:35.840
the States. But well, from
your first person point of view, what

669
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:39.000
was it like watching churches get shut
down and all the things that you saw

670
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:44.480
firsthand? Fantastic question, George.
I'm glad you asked, sir. And

671
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:49.400
look, I've been jump around all
over the place too. Well. Lucky

672
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.920
for me, I lived in central
queens and Rock Camps and Queensland were probably

673
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:58.719
the probably the nicest in terms of
lockdowns. It's a horrifying thought when you

674
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:04.320
realize hang on with a lucky and
then suddenly Victoria or Melbourne Victoria. So

675
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.639
Melbourne is the capital city of Victoria
and I'm in the state of Queensland.

676
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:13.199
Uh. It's known as the benchmark
for lockdowns. The only the only other

677
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:15.119
place that comes close to it or
equal to it would have been China.

678
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:22.679
So we're competing with China in terms
of draconian power. It's just stunning.

679
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:30.000
And I remember the seeing the news
when the construction workers were demonstrating and we're

680
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:35.480
extremely passive obedient when we follow the
rules. We're proud to follow the rules.

681
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:40.000
Uh So that was an indication that
a lot of people down there could

682
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:45.639
see this is a major issue because
if you did lockdown everything, they could

683
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:50.960
see that are going to be destroyed. Businesses were going to be broken,

684
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.079
and it's going to it's going to
damage economy. They could see that.

685
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:59.639
Because these guys are tradees, they
deal with reality all the time, so

686
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:02.760
they could immediately understand the consequences of
this, and that's why they protested.

687
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:07.440
Of course, the police can I
know, to find interesting as the Victorian

688
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:13.159
police have the inverted pentagram on there
on their badge, so it's the upside

689
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.920
down pentagram. You have a look
at it and do a fact check on

690
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:20.000
that. But I believe that's the
case, and I always thought, jeez,

691
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.079
that's a bit of a giveaway,
isn't it. That was quite disturbing,

692
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:28.679
but they definitely crushed it. I
remember the dramatic scenes when people were

693
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.000
sitting in the park just relaxing and
a police car would just drive straight out

694
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:37.559
onto the park and right up next
to someone relaxing there, and with the

695
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:40.719
and chase them off the park,
and people had to stay in the home.

696
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:44.840
One person could leave the home to
talk to the nearest shop, which

697
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:49.360
was you know, Cohl's or wlworst. All the corner stores had to be

698
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.559
locked down. Only the big companies
could keep their shops open. Right,

699
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:58.559
they were treated as essential services,
but any small business was not an essential

700
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:01.480
service. Do you know what I
heard is that the Victorian government now is

701
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:07.559
basically bankrupt. It costs some it
was thirty one million or thirty one billion

702
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:13.920
dollars to do three years of lockdowns. They just they wiped out all the

703
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:20.880
middle businesses after the So that's their
revenue, right. They need businesses for

704
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.679
tax revenue. They need income owners
to pay tax revenue. So they basically

705
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:30.360
picked put their legs off, and
they wonder why they broke unless, of

706
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:35.480
course it's all orchestrated that way,
who knows. Once they lifted the gates

707
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:38.880
the lockdowns were released, I think
a couple of million people left Victoria to

708
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:44.480
move to New South Wales and Queensland, and it's caused a housing crisis.

709
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:49.519
Now. Who've got people living in
their cars. People were booted out of

710
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:53.239
their homes, long term tenants,
rents were basically at least doubled, if

711
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:58.159
not more. They had to buy
a house that went through the roof.

712
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:05.360
Very lucky that I am a homeowner. So it's put tremendous pressure. So

713
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:08.559
all these people left Victoria out of
disgust for the Victorian government destroying their lives.

714
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:14.280
And then the tsunamis humanity, you
know, you hear about you hear

715
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:16.159
about the border issue in America,
you know, because because I know,

716
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:22.760
I listened to these things, but
we had our own ship tired of humanity

717
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:30.760
within the country, you know,
and it destabilizes everything. So I don't

718
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:34.440
want to be curus of being over
dramatic or melodramatic, but I try to

719
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.840
call a spade a spade. That's
how the expression goes. And it put

720
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:45.559
tremendous pressure on people, you know. And so for me personally, I

721
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:50.960
was extremely fortunate. I managed to
go to work every day. Everyone else

722
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:52.599
did the work from home thing,
but being a labcheck, how am I

723
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:57.880
supposed to do any work without going
to my lab? And I loved it.

724
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:02.079
It was peaceful. Even the funniest
thing is that the bird sort,

725
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:05.760
okay, so this is ours now, right, and they were just sort

726
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:09.400
of started reclaiming the area. And
I remember getting swooped by crows walking up

727
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:13.840
to buy a can of soft drink
from the the vending machine. And it's

728
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:15.039
never happened to me before in my
life, and I thought, okay,

729
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:22.119
so the crows are just assumed that
we've all gone and they're reclaiming the territory.

730
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:28.360
I managed to dodge getting the vaccination. I didn't get direct pressure to

731
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:32.400
take a vaccination, but they wouldn't
give me a work vehicle to drive to

732
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:37.079
other campuses because they said, you
must have your vaccination certificates. Well,

733
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.840
yeah, you don't want to.
It just seemed like you're seeing straight out.

734
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:46.800
Sorry, I said, you don't
want to give the car COVID No,

735
01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:52.400
no, absolutely not. So we're
all going to work, yeah yeah,

736
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:54.239
and where your mask while you're by
yourself and your cart? You're right,

737
01:00:54.639 --> 01:01:00.559
But so that they wanted me to
drive to other camps to run labs,

738
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:04.719
but they wouldn't lend me the car
because they didn't have the papers.

739
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.639
You know. It's like a scene
straight out of Nazi Germany. You know,

740
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:13.079
where are your papers? You know? And it was a huge rigmarole.

741
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:15.639
I told the head of school and
the head of school talk to people

742
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:20.239
in culture or human resources, and
they said, no, you don't need

743
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:23.199
a certificate for that, and the
head of admin and said, no,

744
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:25.760
yes you do. I mean they
were on a complete power trip. Okay,

745
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.360
And then it went back to the
Health and safety, and the Health

746
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:35.199
and secty said no, you don't
need papers to drive a work vehicle within

747
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:39.840
the state. And finally I got
the work vehicle. But I get the

748
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:49.079
feeling that there are a lot of
people who enjoy the power trip in terms

749
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.159
of enforcing the law. And this
is something I wanted to mention was the

750
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:58.599
moment I realized that we basically live
in an open prison, so we work

751
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:04.079
and pay for our own prison cells. That's our home. Everyone is a

752
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:07.000
jail keeper. They're all watching you
and checking up on you, and you're

753
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:10.760
checking up on them. And you'd
be surprised how many people go around look

754
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.960
at what you're doing and go,
oh, that's illegal. I'll have my

755
01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:19.239
neighbors all the time telling me,
oh, that plant is an invasive species,

756
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:21.679
that you can't have that in your
guy. Oh, I didn't even

757
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:23.719
know. I don't know much about
plants. I'll pull that out right away,

758
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:29.079
although I'll be checking your house to
see if there's any building code infractions.

759
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:30.639
I'm a live a sixty year old
house, you know, I'm a

760
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:34.039
peasant. I've been working my whole
life and this is the only home I

761
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:38.199
could afford to buy. So yeah, everyone's a jail keeper and everyone's a

762
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:45.639
prisoner. And that's how we self
maintain the prison system, and those in

763
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:51.639
charge don't have to really do any
work. We do the work for them.

764
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.280
And getting back to this head of
admin, she was just one of

765
01:02:54.320 --> 01:03:01.519
those not getting paid by the government, but happy to to enforce. I

766
01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:07.599
perceived it wasn't even in legislation.
She just perceived that as being the rule.

767
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:10.480
So she was happy to roll that
out and everyone would have complied until

768
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:15.360
they encountered me because I have,
as my dad said, opposition defiance disorder.

769
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:22.000
I just said, no, odd, yeah, yeah, yeah,

770
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:23.360
You've got to know what your issues
are, right, that's right. And

771
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:27.360
I'm sure there's a medicine for that
too. Go to Pfizer dot com.

772
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.519
I'm sure they can treat you absolutely. You know, I do a bit

773
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:35.440
of I think I'm a bit of
a troll online, you know, And

774
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:38.760
I'll see a video where someone behaves
very badly online and I'll just write a

775
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:45.559
comment. This one was totally brought
to you by Pfizer. Actually that that

776
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:47.920
brings him back to another realized.
The realization I want to share with you,

777
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:59.360
George, is that I'm convinced that
these vaccines somehow are blocking our action

778
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:03.079
with the creat It's getting right into
the internal workings of our mind. Now,

779
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:08.360
whether you believe it or not.
Some people say that our perennial gland

780
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:15.280
is our third eye. Apparently there
are optical nerve senses that face inwards in

781
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:18.480
that pineal gland, and that's where
our dreams come from. That's what you're

782
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:23.920
seeing when you have dreams. I'm
not the exponentius an opinion throat and the

783
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:28.079
rubbish pin if you want, it's
okay, but if that can be filled

784
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:31.440
with rubbish like fluoride from our water
and other chemicals whatever. I've talked to

785
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.920
people who say they don't dream when
they sleep, and that just blows my

786
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:40.840
mind, because I love my dreams. You know, Yeah, I dream

787
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:44.760
almost every night, and I think
that also. Sorry, I dream almost

788
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:51.119
every night. I love my dreams. My dreams are fantastic. I feel

789
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:54.960
like I have I have real experience. In my dream, I've worked up

790
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:58.079
in tears sometimes. You know,
I had a dream where I felt that

791
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.679
I found my true love, a
woman that I love in my dream.

792
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.719
Maybe it's always going to be in
my dream, knowing my luck, but

793
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:13.639
you know, very significant to me
and I honestly, when I look at

794
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:17.000
behavior, I feel like people are
more angry, you know, like car

795
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.559
squab, people will be angry.
Right, you know, maybe he knew

796
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:26.880
something. I think they know what
they're doing. I think they are It

797
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:29.880
is a war against God. They're
trying to break that connection with our creator,

798
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:33.599
and they know how to do it
by corrupting our body, using fear

799
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:41.000
as the mechanism to make us obey. And apparently fear shuts down all capacity

800
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:45.480
to think logically and rationally. Yeah, you become a logical and irrational with

801
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:51.840
when you're dominated by fear. That's
right, and that again military analogy.

802
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:57.719
But training, and you need to
train yourself because when things kick in,

803
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:01.280
you know, they say fight or
flight. But even here on the homestead,

804
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:05.920
we continuously train on trains that work. Wrong word to use. But

805
01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:09.480
all right, if you say,
hey, I have a Ham radio,

806
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:14.000
that doesn't mean you're able to operate
it and use it properly. Just because

807
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:15.239
you have a medical kid doesn't mean
it's good to go. When's the last

808
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:20.519
time you checked it expired? So
these are the type of things that people

809
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:30.039
need to make sure of, hmm, exactly. I honestly, I'm still

810
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:33.079
quite dependent on the system. Yeah, I don't think I could live off

811
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:38.920
anonymous and sweep the title leave.
So apparently you can use those in stuf

812
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:46.320
fries yep, yep. But it
doesn't mean I can't still indulge in gardening

813
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:48.920
like I've heard. I've heard,
I don't know whether roomors or true.

814
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:53.199
The government's trying to crack down on
people growing things in around backyard, you

815
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:56.079
know. I mean, these guys
are really getting out of control, and

816
01:06:56.119 --> 01:07:00.440
at some point it's going to be
like I'll see you at the Google you

817
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:06.639
know, my set, see you
at the prison camp. You know.

818
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:14.760
Uh. I guess I'm sort of
a conspiracy theorist, and but I'm also

819
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:20.000
an engineer, and I can see
how Facebook is basically a massive data based

820
01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:25.239
system, and the only reason why
they allow posts about, you know,

821
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:30.599
questioning the government is so that this
is my opinion, right, is that

822
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:35.119
it can It's started harvesting, so
they know your name, they know where

823
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:38.199
you live, and then you put
your opinion on it. Oh, that's

824
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:43.119
terrible what the government's doing. And
that goes straight into the AI system that's

825
01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:47.679
building up a digital version of you. So once they've got a digital version

826
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:54.440
of everyone, that can basically mathematically
model the human race. Uh. And

827
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:57.440
once you've got a model of something
this is control systems by the way.

828
01:07:57.519 --> 01:08:00.840
Once you've got a model system,
a model of something, you can you

829
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:05.079
can you can, then you know
what input to give it to get to

830
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:10.960
get the desired output. And I
think about the movie is that Hollywood has

831
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.679
produced in the past, like Dustin
Hopman and the Outbrak Outbreak movie. Remember

832
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.000
that that's just data harvesting. So
they go, okay, so what are

833
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:20.640
we going to do. Okay,
we're going to wipe them out with the

834
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:23.680
virus. All right, Well,
let's see how they respond. We'll make

835
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:30.520
a movie about it. And that's
also creating fuzziness in the true data,

836
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.640
because when you hear about something happening, go oh that was just in the

837
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:38.760
movie. It's not reality, So
you get fuzziness in your thinking. So

838
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:44.319
I'm a little bit hesitant to draw
too much hardcore data from anything that comes

839
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:46.159
out of Holywood. I'd prefer to
just use my own eyes and my ears

840
01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:50.880
to see what's really happening in front
of me. Talk about jumping over a

841
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:56.279
few points there, No that they're
great points. You get the data harvesting.

842
01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:59.199
Yeah, hey, now they are
all great points. And by the

843
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:03.840
way, it should noted that for
I believe anybody who thinks that the the

844
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:10.399
origin the Facebook origin story, it's
not true. I'll put if you've never

845
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:15.079
heard of life lifelog, which was
created by DARPA and they closed it down

846
01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:21.079
the day before Facebook started. And
again it's all about data harvesting, and

847
01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:27.840
they can track keywords so they know
who's their political enemy and who's on their

848
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.119
side. And I think it will
go. I think it will play into

849
01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:35.399
social credit score as well. Simon
absolutely absolutely. It's they've got our score

850
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:44.039
already figured out for sure. But
I take this, Okay, this is

851
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:49.159
a tricky comment to make, but
I but I acknowledge that we were all

852
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:54.399
created with freedom of We have freedom
of choice, we have free will,

853
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.760
and that was given to all of
us, even the people we don't like,

854
01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:00.800
and that's why these things happen.
Now because we were given free choice,

855
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:08.279
but not freedom from the consequences.
So in my comments online, I'm

856
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:12.880
very I don't go, you know, down with the system or that he

857
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:15.720
needs to be done away with or
they need to be got rid of or

858
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:19.159
whatever, because that's me trying to
do power over someone else as well.

859
01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:25.279
Now that might sound extremely passive and
oh, you know, you're too weak

860
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:29.680
and whatever. I'm not talking about
face to face something. I'm a different

861
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:32.479
person if it's face to face.
If someone's trying to come in and take

862
01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:36.039
over my space or whatever, I
believe that I would do whatever I could

863
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:43.520
to defend myself. And that's those
are my personal boundaries. But I don't

864
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:51.840
try to extend out some sort of
power or influence over my boundaries, you

865
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:55.840
know. And that's why I keep
saying, it's just my opinion. You'll

866
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:59.079
do what you want to do,
and if it resonates with you, grab

867
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.039
it. If it doesn't, you
know, than whatever. You know.

868
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:10.640
Yeah, probably missing all bunch of
things, but it doesn't matter, doesn't

869
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:13.640
really. No, it's been a
great conversation. As we wind down to

870
01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:17.119
the last five or ten minutes,
I had one more question to ask you,

871
01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:20.720
but I can't seem to find it
because I was going to ask you

872
01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:26.600
about the jab or job, but
you already acknowledge that I was going to

873
01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:30.479
ask you've had any luck? I
know you said that you're a hermit,

874
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:33.880
you've got a small circle, But
have you had any luck discussing flat earth

875
01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:43.960
with with like minded people in your
small circle? Yeah? Okay, So

876
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:47.359
I took a big plunge of the
day and just put a reposted a flatter

877
01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:53.960
post onto my feed, my profile
feed. That was a big step for

878
01:11:54.039 --> 01:12:01.720
me. I see things indirectly.
I guess that's my way of planning seeds

879
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:10.600
is by by making observations, you
know, like the clouds not moving even

880
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:15.000
though the earth is spending and stuff
like that. I feel that I'm getting

881
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:23.000
closer and closer to the point of
just being blunt with people. And I

882
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:28.760
say that for a few reasons,
like do you know that there is a

883
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:38.680
war on men at the moment and
masculinity and there's men are the protectors of

884
01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:42.479
society. We're the front line.
That's why men go into war because we're

885
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:47.319
the protective society. So it makes
sense to attack men and manliness and male

886
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:54.239
strength, masculine strength. There's feminine
strength as well. And I'm not an

887
01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:55.960
expert. I don't have kids in
mind, et cetera, et cetera.

888
01:12:56.079 --> 01:13:04.199
But there's definitely a war on there. And I feel like I'm becoming less

889
01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:09.439
tolerant. And that doesn't mean I'm
becoming hateful. I believe we have free

890
01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:14.640
choice, but I feel like I'm
just getting more open about saying yeah,

891
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:17.520
and it's not for me, I
disagree with that or whatever. So back

892
01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:21.039
to the flat air thing. Yeah, look, this is this is the

893
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:25.279
million dollar question, is you know, how can we change the world?

894
01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:30.319
How can we wake everyone up?
And I'm really not sure that how possible?

895
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:34.520
It actually is, Like there this
term NPC a non playable character.

896
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:42.279
Uh, I feel like there are
that they're quite quite a few NPCs out

897
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:46.920
there, people who are just sleepwalking
through life. And I don't really think

898
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:55.279
that they will wake up until they're
at that at the impact point, you

899
01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:58.119
know, like the last few seconds
of their life, the last few minutes

900
01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:00.359
of the life, and then then
suddenly they're way up and then they realize

901
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:06.319
something's not quite right. So you're
either you're either a truth seeker or you're

902
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:11.560
a ho to use this word,
denyer or you're truth denier, and that's

903
01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:14.720
kind of like a default. I
think you just go one way or the

904
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:21.000
other, and it's it's a it's
a lonely part. So I think I

905
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:30.720
think the best thing is to learn
acceptance, accept where you are in life,

906
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:36.920
and and acceptance gives you a lot
of peace. I know that's that's

907
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:44.000
not terribly groundbreaking and earth shattering,
but it seems to be working for me.

908
01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:48.319
It brings things back center central to
me. And I think if we're

909
01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:55.560
a calm and happy then we would
present a good role model to other people.

910
01:14:56.119 --> 01:15:00.920
So when crazy things are happening around
us, I think then we are

911
01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:04.000
going to stand out, like why
is that guy so chill? Why is

912
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:09.880
he so calmp all that lady she's
so killed? Why they always say insightful

913
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:13.199
things are so insight of us,
like they seem to understand. I think

914
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:17.840
it's at that point that we will
it's a very grand statement, but I

915
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:25.159
think we'll discover our purpose in society. We're like, we're almost like this

916
01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:29.119
is horrible. Use is like a
sleeper agent's you know, that's that's all

917
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:31.079
terrorism, right, But but in
our case we are like that. We're

918
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:36.880
like we're like these seeds that are
waiting for the right time to germinate,

919
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:43.000
you know, and when it's when
the time is right, we will germinate

920
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:46.920
and then everybody will see why that
why is Simon here in Rockhampton? What's

921
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:49.840
here? Why? What's his purpose
in life? And then it will come

922
01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:54.079
out And I think, I think, what's waiting for that moment to arrive?

923
01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:57.520
And I don't think we've got long
to wait. Honestly, I feel

924
01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:01.960
like we are right right on the
edge of the press of interesting times and

925
01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:06.439
staying calm and being leading by That's
actually what I was trying to get to

926
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:14.560
earlier with the analogy is with training
when things when it does hit the fan,

927
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:17.479
you expect it, and you're going
to be able to make more logical

928
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:23.720
decisions because, like you said,
trying to make decisions when you're in full

929
01:16:23.720 --> 01:16:27.920
blown panic, normally they don't work
out for you because you need to have

930
01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:31.439
more than one plan to begin with. Number one, you have to have

931
01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:38.199
plan A, B, and C. And especially if again they're attacking males,

932
01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:43.159
you are the leader, you are
the protector. So and especially if

933
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:48.279
you're a Christian and you know you
know there is life after here, you

934
01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:55.239
know our journey here. That should
give you more courage to stand up to

935
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:58.760
to to the evils and all the
wrongs that are going on in our world.

936
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:04.760
Yeah, that's a fascinating I thought. I remember talking to a lady

937
01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:11.600
in Switzerland who was very, very
depressed and down about the loss of her

938
01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:14.479
father, and I said, well, I said, well, who who

939
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:16.159
is your father? Exactly? You
know? And I used the I talked

940
01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:18.640
about the hair on your head and
the nail, and you cut your nail

941
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:20.680
and you don't think, oh,
that's a part of me now on the

942
01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:27.479
in the rubbish. You know,
our bodies were made from the physical elements

943
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:30.840
of the earth and the energy from
the sun. But we have that we

944
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:39.720
have that unmeasurable component to ourselves,
which is which is connected with the creator.

945
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:43.880
That's the bit that's timeless. And
I think that the great lie that

946
01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:48.279
was pulled pulled over us was to
think that we are our physical bodies.

947
01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:51.760
And that's where all this comes into
place. You know, the feeling of

948
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:57.079
being threatened, the fear of growing, oh, the fear of sickness and

949
01:17:57.159 --> 01:18:00.399
death, the need to build up
wealth and own more and more, it

950
01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:05.039
all ties into this idea, Oh
you are this is me right, Oh

951
01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:09.119
my god. I need to have
as many children as possible, and I

952
01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:12.000
need to earn as much money as
I can, and I need to own

953
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.359
more houses. And that person's a
potential threat, and that whole thing is

954
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:19.199
tied into our physical being. But
if you know that this is just this

955
01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:23.840
body was a gift from the Creator, I must treasure I'm as respective.

956
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:27.760
But eventually it's going to be returned
back into the earth the great the bio

957
01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:34.960
recycling engine, and then I will
be reconnected the Creator. Then it takes

958
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:42.199
away a lot of the fear.
And I've heard comments from you and another

959
01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:48.239
guest and that Christians are going to
face the worst kind of harassment when we

960
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:53.960
get to end times. But I
think that that's the soulest. That's the

961
01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:58.119
ultimate test of faith. Do you
really have faith? This is all about

962
01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:02.119
a test of faith because all the
indicators are around you are going to threaten

963
01:19:02.199 --> 01:19:08.000
your idea of what is reality,
challenge your idea what is reality, and

964
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:12.920
threaten everything that you have, and
ultimately it's going to come down to your

965
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.600
faith. Do you have faith or
not? That's how that's our arc that's

966
01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:23.239
going to get us through this flood. Well said, well said, and

967
01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:30.079
it's been a great conversation and it's
finally, you know, to put a

968
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:33.039
face to the name. It's really
great to meet you, and I hope

969
01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:36.039
because I feel like we could talk
for another couple of hours. I'd love

970
01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:40.880
to have you back on maybe sometime
this summer. But as we wrap up,

971
01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:45.279
always like to give my guests the
last words, so please take a

972
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:51.720
couple of moments and address the audience. Okay, Well, I'd like to

973
01:19:51.760 --> 01:20:01.520
thank God for George and his work
is ongoing work, and thank God to

974
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:06.119
the listeners out there as well.
And I'm praying for everyone to have peace,

975
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:14.600
strength and security in their lives and
protection, and may we be guided

976
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:23.359
in our life to be a true
representative of the Creator in however the way

977
01:20:23.359 --> 01:20:28.920
that we need to be. I
just want to pray for that, and

978
01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:35.960
I just want to express my gratitude
at the opportunity to share online with you.

979
01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:41.479
That's it, really no, I
can't thank you enough, and God

980
01:20:41.479 --> 01:20:46.000
bless you and for having the courage
to come on here and share your story

981
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:50.920
and your journey, because it's again
it's hard to sum up in ninety minutes,

982
01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:57.319
all the countries you've been through and
all the experiences you've had, but

983
01:20:57.399 --> 01:21:03.279
you certainly gave us some mense into
your your thoughts and great analysis into everything,

984
01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:10.279
and hopefully your message will give people
courage and hope, as so many

985
01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:13.760
other people that have come you know, been a guest previous to yourself,

986
01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:17.000
have done so again. Thank you. I was glad we're able to nail

987
01:21:17.039 --> 01:21:20.319
this time down again. It's fourteen
hours ahead for Simon, so we were

988
01:21:20.359 --> 01:21:23.920
able to work it out and I
can't thank you enough for joining us.

989
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:29.680
So for Simon, I'm George.
God bless everyone. Have a great weekend.

990
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:33.000
This will actually be airing the day
of the eclipse, so we'll see

991
01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:36.039
what comes of that, and we'll
see everybody next week. God bless you.

992
01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:40.199
Keep your head on a swivel,
and until the next time we meet,

993
01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:45.760
my friends, we will see you. I know it's been a struggle.

994
01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:58.119
I don't know. You've had me
feel the time hell down all the

995
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:09.119
way. God, I know you
feel your smile ain't the same I saw

996
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:17.960
you wall go from. You feel
like you've lost your way. Don't give

997
01:22:18.079 --> 01:22:23.840
up, No, don't give it. Never on this home. Don't let

998
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:30.159
call the primise. It ain't dumb
yet. He's gone up playing Why it's

999
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:40.359
a right time? Got up?
Give me come? Why await God up?

1000
01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:51.840
Give me calling? I can see
the straight beside you. Child's are

1001
01:22:51.960 --> 01:23:00.880
putting up fid Oh you're stronger than
anything. Yeah, you're gonna be all

1002
01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:12.439
right. You're accepting a dead fouled
beautiful. You're shoving ride. Yeah,

1003
01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:21.600
you're live and breathe move, you
can hold your head a pie. Don't

1004
01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:27.960
give up, No, don't give
in, never lose home, don't let

1005
01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:32.039
go on the primise. Men ain't
done yet. This god a plaid.

1006
01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:39.560
Wat's a way down, the God
of Merica. Don't give up. No,

1007
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:45.640
don't give in, never love home, don't let call on the province.

1008
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:51.039
It ain't gonfe It's worth than man. Wat's a way down the god

1009
01:23:51.239 --> 01:24:05.119
up gave call? Why's your place? God? Oh? Yes? What's

1010
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:16.199
the play now? The god TV? Co Oh yeah, got TV.

1011
01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:30.880
Don't give up, No, don't
give in, nevers home? Do they

1012
01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:38.199
go of the primis in and done? Yeah, he's got up playing watch

1013
01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:46.840
dog kind of even coats. Don't
give no dog giving never hol do they

1014
01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:54.640
go of the primes? It ain't
done. Love's worth living in watch and

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