WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:16.440 Hello, everyone. You are listening to a brand new giant bomb podcast. 2 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:21.600 That's right, this is a podcast that is called Jeff Jeff's Bizarre Adventure. 3 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:30.039 Is it a good name? Who knows? We'll find out if it wasn't 4 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:34.280 immediately apparent of what this is about. What's wrong with you? You need 5 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:38.640 to probably get something checked out. I am your hostin Wi Hussein currently and 6 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:44.960 we are joined by I'm gonna introduce the known quantities. First, we've got 7 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:49.079 Jeff back a lot of Jeff Jeff's Bizarre Adventure fame. How you d Hello? 8 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:55.359 How are you? It's Jeff. We've got Lucy James. And then 9 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:59.600 we've got the one and only you know him, you love him. It's 10 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:04.280 ipatch Wolf, superipatch Wolf aka John. How you doing, man? I'm 11 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:07.959 good. I can promise you that there are definitely people who do not love 12 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:15.799 me. Oh okay, well, no one here will see how it goes. 13 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:19.079 Of course, if you don't know John, not to put you on 14 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.120 the spot. But obviously we know you. We've been talking with you a 15 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.319 bunch of times. You've been on a bunch of games, but things which 16 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.239 were amazing and I we're all huge fans of the stuff that you do. 17 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:34.000 But for people who might not know what you do, can you tell us 18 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:37.920 who you are what you're up to. Well, I basically I make YouTube 19 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.120 videos and I put them online and it's mainly just about it used to be 20 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:46.840 like very animated incident, but now it's kind of just like whatever I find 21 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:51.319 interesting. I recent did a video about Garfield, which at some point also 22 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:56.239 kind of turned into being about like I guess, depression and mental health. 23 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.760 And I don't know how that gradient slided one from from one to the other, 24 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:07.079 it sure did, And yeah, it's it's really awesome and very strange 25 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:13.280 to be doing a Joe Joe's Bizarre Adventure podcast with Giant Bomb. Not quite 26 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:17.719 sure the path I took to get here, but I'm I'm pretty happy about 27 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:22.680 it. So yeah, yeah, same. I mean, like for a 28 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:24.560 little bit behind the scenes and maybe Jeff you can talk about this like we 29 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:30.039 we were back in the when we were kind of like spit balling ideas for 30 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:32.439 new Giant Bomb stuff that we could bring in. I think like we were 31 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:37.080 like we need to do something with by Patch Wolves, Pipe Patch Wolf. 32 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:42.159 Yeah, it just because like we're massive fans and it turned out to be 33 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.280 way easier than we expected, and then we like sat down over a bunch 34 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:49.560 of meetings and just came up with the idea for this podcast. Right. 35 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:53.039 It was it was a situation where we knew we had to get to the 36 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:58.080 end of this place where we're collaborating in a meaningful way, and it was 37 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.080 like, Hey, if it's going to come down to me actually watching an 38 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:06.039 entire anime series makes this happen, then that's what we're going to do. 39 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:09.400 And here we are, and it couldn't be happier. So for people who 40 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:15.800 may be longtime fans of Giant Bomb and consumed a lot of content, you 41 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.800 will naturally know that anime is something that kind of simmers in the Giant Bomb 42 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:23.560 community, and it kind of also and in terms of content coverage is kind 43 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.560 of simmering there as well. The biggest thing that a lot of people will 44 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.599 know is All Systems Goku, which is something that we are all huge fans 45 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:34.560 off. Well, John and I definitely are fans off. I don't think 46 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.479 Lucy and Jeff have seen an episode of dragon Ball in their lives, but 47 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.439 hey, I've seen a couple when I was a kid, But my dad 48 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:45.719 got rid of Cartoon Networks of WHOA, Yeah, how do you do that? 49 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:51.240 Just canceled. It just canceled. He was like no, he was 50 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.919 like, I'm not letting anime take another one. He watched one episode of 51 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:59.280 watched one episode of dragon Ball. It's just like, not not from my 52 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:04.520 children, No ban this zick filth. So with that in mind, we 53 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:09.560 decided, what if we did something in that vein but for something else, 54 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:14.199 another series that is perhaps a little more wild and weirder, And then brought 55 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:18.439 in two people who are one not super into anime and too definitely haven't seen 56 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:24.680 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and did it, So show about that, and that is 57 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:28.639 what you're currently listening to. So for an overview or where we're at in 58 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:32.319 terms of experience, John, what's your experience with Jojo? I mean, 59 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:40.879 I've I've consumed nearly all of Jojo. I've been reading it for oh, 60 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:45.360 probably close to a decade now, I've watched all the anime, currently in 61 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:49.360 the middle of part six. I don't even want to give too much details 62 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:57.199 about my specific feelings about Jojo because I think just unraveling what this show is 63 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.480 and the directions it goes is going to be a huge part of the joy 64 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:08.560 of this podcast, and I really don't want to spoil a thing. I'm 65 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:12.120 so I am. Everyone knows her, or like people that know me. 66 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:16.639 I'm a big anime boy. Jojo is one of my blind spots in that 67 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:21.800 I've definitely seen a bunch of it, but never start to finish. Jojo 68 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:25.959 has always been and I've read bits pieces of it. I've always just been 69 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.920 like, what's going on? What you know? Check in with Jojo? 70 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.040 Watching episode Hero there? See watch a scene Hero there. I've never watched 71 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:38.160 it start to finish, so I have some awareness of it, but my 72 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:44.160 anime literacy is high. My Jojo literacy is low, Lucy, I've never 73 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:50.040 seen it before doing the homework for this episode. I am aware of the 74 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:55.480 memes in particular, there's a big trend on TikTok why people do the jojo 75 00:05:55.600 --> 00:06:00.480 like lean and I'm obviously aware of the to be continued because there was a 76 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.839 time in the UK office where we did a lot of those. We started 77 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:10.959 to even make some. But other than that, I mean like the Weirdly 78 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:14.959 enough, there's an actual part of my Twitch streams which involves that to be 79 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.759 continued meme where people who are watching can redeem points and at any moment it 80 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:23.519 starts the roundabout moment, and we'll do the zoom as well, and so 81 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:27.199 like I have to manually zoom it though, so like people wait for me 82 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.160 to fight like a hard dog souls boss and then redeem it and you can 83 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.560 start hearing the notes of roundabout coming. So in the middle of it, 84 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:38.040 I have to be like, shit, Jeff, where you're at with it? 85 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:43.800 Oh? Okay, So I don't I don't know. I mean, 86 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:51.120 I don't know anything I know, so I would just by doing what I 87 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:57.079 do, I'm probably ahead of the majority of people in the sort of zeyegeist 88 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:02.000 of like the anime energy. Like I feel like I just absorb that information 89 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:06.680 through osmosis just being involved in video games for so long. But when it 90 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:13.160 comes down to like the hard truth of it all, aside from like and 91 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:17.160 and most people don't even consider like an Eon Flux to be like traditional anime, 92 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.040 I guess like that was That's the only cartoon that I've seen, the 93 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:26.079 whole thing of that is not a typical you know, sort of like American 94 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:32.759 cartoon you're talking about. No, I'm talking about the the MTV cartoon gotcha. 95 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:38.680 So outside of that, you've never watched like an anime like Beginning to 96 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:44.720 end before. I've never never seen a Kira. I've never seen Uh. 97 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.439 Yeah, I'm not gasping because that's a bad thing. I'm gasping because I'm 98 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:54.920 excited, Like, yeah, I'm just this touch yeah versus, this is 99 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:59.399 incredible. I'm so excited. So growing up when I so when I was 100 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:05.279 in college, Adult Swim like was just starting on Cartoon Network, and I 101 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.839 was like big aquitine guy. I loved all that stuff. Saturdays is when 102 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:13.160 they did, like the tsunami thing, when they would do anime, and 103 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:18.560 I just it just didn't speak to me. I assumed it wasn't for me. 104 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.120 It just didn't like there was no like peering into that for me. 105 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:26.920 For whatever reason, I you know, probably was playing video games, you 106 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.560 know, needed time for that too. So yeah, I have a huge 107 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:35.759 blind spot for that. That said, now that I'm three episodes sinst the 108 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:41.279 Joe Joe's I understand immediately the language it's speaking, not Japanese. I'm saying 109 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.320 these sort of like cues and the sort of like you know, the notions, 110 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.679 and I come to realize, like, oh, this is I'm reading 111 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:56.960 a comic book through a cartoon with like the way it sort of like encapsulates 112 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.480 cliffhangers and that little logo like this is very much episodic comic book. So 113 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:07.080 I'm ingesting it. I know what I'm doing, and it feels very natural 114 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:11.679 in a way I wasn't expecting for sure. Having Jojo as your first start 115 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:16.519 to finish anime is the equivalent of drinking squash without diluting it first. So 116 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:20.320 I am very very excited to see what kind of journey that takes you on. 117 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.879 In terms of formatting of this podcast, we're playing it fairly loose and 118 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.720 you might find it's a bit scatter shot for a little bit were our approach 119 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.000 was let's just sit down and have a conversation about this stuff. So we 120 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.080 do have kind of an idea of the structure. We want to do a 121 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.120 recap and then give our general thoughts along the way, but it might evolve 122 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.559 over time. So if you're listening to this and you like it, or 123 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.120 if there's something that you like something you dislike, just let us know in 124 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.399 the comments, or if you have any tips or tweaks you want us to 125 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.840 make and we'll read that stuff, and there's no promises that we will take 126 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.360 it on board, because you know, this is our show. We do 127 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.120 what we want. But yeah, we hey bet you start your own God 128 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:07.840 damn Joe Joe. Well we just say three, like we were going to 129 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:13.879 watch three episodes per yes, podcast episodes, So three episodes per per podcast 130 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:18.480 episode is the current plan. And as it stands, we're committing to season 131 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:24.320 one of the show, and depending on how it goes from there, we 132 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:26.600 will either come back. If you like it a lot and it does Gangbusters 133 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:30.720 and everyone's like, please bring it back the Joe Joe Show. We need 134 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.480 more ipertual. If we need more Lucy and Jeff talking about this stuff, 135 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:37.039 then we'll do it. If it's like and we also got working, like 136 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.519 the elephant is, the room is in the room is. We're all busy. 137 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:46.039 John makes amazing videos that take a lot of time and effort and research 138 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.200 and require physical and mental energy. We'll all have gay jobs as well. 139 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.559 There are various other things, and so we have to balance a lot of 140 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.639 things to make it work. But you've got one season from us at the 141 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:00.840 very least, and we encourage you to watch along and you know, be 142 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.519 careful about spoiling stuff in the future and the comments, because it's going to 143 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.759 be hopefully a bunch of people that decided to come on the journey with us. 144 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.159 So with that in mind, I'm going to kick it over the John 145 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.120 who's going to be our guide the Bizarre Advent World of Jojo. Yeah, 146 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:20.320 so I think I think before we like dive into the first thing, I 147 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.320 just want to have like a very I guess Jeff, I had a question 148 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:28.159 for you. When do you think that the comic this started? Oh, 149 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:35.559 that's a that's a good question. Is this is a good question because Joe 150 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.000 to me, I thought it was Actually I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna 151 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.399 say anything, going Okay, I don't know why I'm basing this on nothing. 152 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.279 I have a feeling there's a bit of a gap between the cartoon and 153 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.519 the comic. I have no idea basing that on. I would say early 154 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:52.759 two thousands, So you think the comics started in the early two thousands. 155 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.600 Yeah, the first chapter of the comic was released in nineteen eighty seven, 156 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:07.639 so it's course that makes more sense to me. Yes, Okay, this 157 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.480 this series is old and it's still going like, so are you saying that 158 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:16.639 therefore I am old because I was born before nineteen eighties. We're really starting 159 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:22.679 this off on a bed. I am also calling myself old. Yeah, 160 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.960 I'm the same age as Jojo, so oh nice ye, which is interesting. 161 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:30.159 I am slightly older, doesn't It doesn't matter how much? How okay, 162 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:35.759 I feel like, okay, I'm ethereal and do not age. It's 163 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.720 true. But yeah, this is a really interesting one to start out on 164 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:45.200 because, like, JoJo's influenced so much, Like this is going to be 165 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.039 the kind of thing where I think you guys will watch other things and be 166 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.720 like, oh wait, they're they're doing the Jojo thing. And that's one 167 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:58.960 of the reasons it's so fun and it's very unique. As I'm sure the 168 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:03.960 three of you have have gathered so far, it's like there's there's nothing else 169 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.480 really like Joe Joe's And a lot of that is even just down to the 170 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.120 just tone of it. But I guess, like I am just really curious 171 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.639 to get a very general like feeling or impression. How are you guys feeling 172 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:24.799 after three episodes? Who wants to go first? I'll let you guys should 173 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.159 go first. I feel like Jeff has wanted to say than me. I 174 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:33.360 like have a bigger anime knowledge than certainly Jeff, but definitely not on the 175 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.799 level of John and Tam. But like I was really into it. I 176 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.320 was very sad when I had to stop, because like, I don't want 177 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:43.000 to watch a ton of it in one girl, because I'll forget you. 178 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:48.159 So I'm like giving it to myself piecemeil. It's also one of the weirdest 179 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:50.840 things I've ever loved. But it's so and I think TAM's message wait, 180 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:56.559 let me let me read tamanized exchange from last night. When I was watching 181 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:01.039 it, I was on my side of it. I was putting off watching 182 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.080 it for as long as possible because I knew that once I started, I 183 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:07.320 was going to have such a lovely time with it again. And I did 184 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.440 that yesterday, and I was like, the same way I was, like, 185 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:13.200 I remember watching this for the first time, and it hits in the 186 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.919 same way as it did when I first watched it. So I had a 187 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.840 couple of white clothes at this point, Like this is about six pm. 188 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:26.039 I texted Chaw's done Jojo time to achieve replied enjoy me. Half an hour 189 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:33.080 later, what the fuck is this guy's problem? Then later on just finished 190 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:37.080 episode one, I thought we were all joking about round about, but I 191 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:41.799 guess not. And then the next the next stuff I talk about it was 192 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:46.799 like from episode two onwards. But I I immediately just have like such a 193 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.320 watching the first episode, I had such a dislike of Deo, but I 194 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:56.960 didn't have a complete love of Jojo yet. We could talk about like you 195 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:00.440 know, characters and stuff, but I feel, I don't know, I 196 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:07.440 still I I can't get over Joe Joe star fucking Dio Brando. The names 197 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.559 were the first thing that like, what are these names? What are the 198 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.879 names? But the fact that it's said were England only. Starting with the 199 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:20.600 names, yeah, like now I expect anything. The fact that it's said 200 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:26.519 in England in like the eighteen hundreds, I was not anticipating at all. 201 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:28.559 And then it's just the way that it kind of seems to be this sort 202 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:33.000 of weird slice of life, you know, coming of age thing, and 203 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.399 you know, you have the protagonists, then you have this guy who comes 204 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:37.679 along just to fuck up his life, and then it I can't remember this 205 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.919 was like episode one or not, but just like then it goes into insane 206 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.720 fight sequences and just over the top, and I love that you're getting though 207 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.840 their internal monologues. And then as soon as I saw that mask, I 208 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.679 was like, oh, yeah, it's gonna go someplaces. So I was 209 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:58.600 really enjoying it. It's going to be vampires from episode I had no idea 210 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:03.879 what that scores. But then part of me was like, oh, you 211 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.639 know, in my head not to go to the comic and the Gym Carey 212 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.200 movie. But I was like, yeah, that mask is gonna it's gonna 213 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:14.679 suck some shut up. But it's hard to distill your thoughts about it in 214 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:18.080 just like such a general way, but I dug it. It has this 215 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.600 real zany quality and I think maybe zany is the word I'm reaching for because 216 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:25.399 I've been playing a lot of yakers are recently, so I'm very much in 217 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:30.200 this frame where I just want things to be earnest and silly, which is 218 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.759 what I think. Yeah, because it is and what I yeah, And 219 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.960 like, you know, the lead character is also a complete himbo, which 220 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:44.240 I adore, so yeah, it's it's ticking a lot of he is an 221 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:53.759 absolute himbo. And we'll talk about the muscles Layer, but like I'm digging 222 00:16:53.799 --> 00:17:00.279 it. It's ticking a lot of boxes to me, a so so yes. 223 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:03.879 I the reason to go back why I thought it was maybe earlier two 224 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:07.640 thousands was because all of a sudden, this vampirical angle enters the show and 225 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:11.599 I'm like, oh, this was when vampires were hot. Do you think 226 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.480 it was a Twilight thing? No, but like it's just part of the 227 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.079 zeitgeist in a way where you're like, oh, this is just a vampire 228 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:27.559 thing, Brando aldert ear exactly. They all belong to this same era time. 229 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:32.759 I love the idea of having like the famous vampires of that era and 230 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:38.720 having like Culin and Blade and then just fucking Deod, just people like who 231 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:44.559 the fuck is that animated guy? Look, the show's fucking weird, and 232 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.480 it's weird because it and I don't know if this is all anime. It 233 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.039 gets categorized into this into these sort of like slots, but like there are 234 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:59.240 no emotional middle grounds. It is always one extreme or another, and that 235 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:04.079 is like it makes it so strange to watch because these people have their highest 236 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:08.759 highs and lowest lows in the in a matter of twenty seconds. This is 237 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:17.119 like it's a turn based cartoon where like people take turns, exchanging these like 238 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:23.559 wildly dramatic moments, but they're fucking standing right in front of each other and 239 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:26.519 they're just sort of like letting time pass. And it's like, no, 240 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:30.920 motherfucker, you can. You can slice someone's head off right now, Just 241 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:36.039 move, just do it. Stop standing still. Genuinely love How long I've 242 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.000 been into anime, which is most of my life, and I have never 243 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:47.799 heard the words turn based cartoons. That's what it is. Fantastic, it's 244 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:52.440 like and so much time passes. The first two episodes cover seven years. 245 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:57.400 Seven years go by, and everyone Joe Joe's like, odd, oh, 246 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:02.400 the Deo is bast this son of a bitch. What he's like, I've 247 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:06.839 been waiting for seven years to fuck your world up. I'm waiting patiently like 248 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:11.720 a psychopath. Why is everyone so big? I mean, he's got some 249 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:15.119 he's got some bad ideas, But I mean, is he a bad guy? 250 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:21.880 I mean yeah, Deo is a is empirically an evil. I feel 251 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:27.799 like he's judgment personally, the first stone kind of thing. You know. 252 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:32.559 Well, look, yes, fine, I get okay, don't I don't 253 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:33.759 know where you're going with that. But like, let me, let me, 254 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:37.640 let me stretch this one out a little bit. So Dio's father, 255 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:42.480 right, the Brando Dio is that? Yeah? Right, Dario Dario brand 256 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:48.920 I'm sorry, Dario Dio. Brando is their last name. Yeah, Dario 257 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:55.160 Brando. Dio's dad, the guy with like four teeth and he's always crazy 258 00:19:55.240 --> 00:20:02.960 screaming. Right. What explained to me why Dio all of a sudden is 259 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:11.319 like, yo, every like I am devoting my life to destroying JoJo's life 260 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.839 just because of like I don't get them. Like to me, his motivation 261 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:22.000 is very hazy, So I don't think his motivation is like to destroy JoJo's 262 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.000 life off the bat, I think his motivation is to inherit the Joe Star 263 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:32.640 fortune, and Jojo is like an obstacle in that, so he's just collateral 264 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:37.680 damage to kind of like get to the recap part of the episode. So 265 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:41.720 the first episode is called Dio the Invader, and it's set in England in 266 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:48.559 eighteen sixty eight. And the important part is right from the outset is we're 267 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:52.960 introduced to a bunch of characters, including Dario Brando. And is it George 268 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:57.880 Joe Star, Yeah, I think George George yah, yeah, and there's 269 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:03.240 been a carriage cry and the Joe stars are in a rough spot. You 270 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:07.720 can hear like a baby crying and Dario is there with his wife. And 271 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:12.759 Dario is there just basically robbing these rich people. There's rich aristocrats, like 272 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:17.279 he's seen them crash and he's like, time to time to get mine. 273 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:21.960 Yeah, He's like, so from the outset, you know what kind of 274 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:30.680 people the Brandos are, at least from the father's side. And George, 275 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:37.119 being slightly naive, which might come up in his lineage, is thinks that 276 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:45.039 Dario is trying to help them and save them and just decides to pledge a 277 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:51.119 like an oath of taking care of the Brandos for this, for this in 278 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:56.000 a misunderstanding, he completely misinterprets the situation. I mean, yeah, he 279 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.920 wakes up and he's being looted practically well, the ring is being slid off 280 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:03.920 his finger. He's like, well, this could only be positive. Yeah, 281 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:07.759 He's like, looks like you're trying to rescue me. Uh no, 282 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:15.319 you're getting robbed. So that's what's happening. My favorite thing is in this 283 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.400 thing is one of the things that I love in Jojo currently is the evil 284 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:26.000 people look obviously evil, like the most evil, like you look as face 285 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.400 and you're like, you're an evil person. It's the same with deal as 286 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:33.839 well. But like and then the naive and the good people look very good 287 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:37.519 looking if you're very innocent looking. I mean when we get to Arena, 288 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:44.759 like just the pure purity just radiates off. But then you've got Dario's dad 289 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.559 and it's like, what can we do, what can we do to make 290 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.920 it clear that this guy is an absolute scumbag. I do just love how 291 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:57.200 hard this episode goes on making Deo a bad guy. Like there's not even 292 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:03.039 a hint of gray. It's just from the moment he steps off the wagon 293 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:11.000 and so he as step off. That's incorrect, it's actually incorrect. And 294 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:17.799 he bounces and yeah, he prans, he like springs out. He explodes 295 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:23.079 into the world from so and when he lands, there's like circular dust that 296 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:30.240 like somehow forms underneath him. And like you said, they waste no time 297 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:37.759 before he's motherfucking upper cutting a dog in the face. And and that's a 298 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.599 dog being JoJo's JoJo's dog. Why is Danny? That's the thing that I 299 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:47.880 don't guess. It's a nice English Danny, come home, Danny. To 300 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:49.720 be fair. I do enjoy when animals have human names. I think it's 301 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.599 very sweet. But Danny, Danny the dog is a new one for me. 302 00:23:55.039 --> 00:24:03.240 My dog is called Montgomery, Great, tiny little for a Jack Russell. 303 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:11.519 So the important thing there is from that first opening scene is George says 304 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:14.839 to Deal, the Joe Stars will never forget our debt to you, so 305 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:19.160 effectively the Joe Stars are indebted to the Brandos. And then twelve years later, 306 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:26.359 Joe Joe's out there playing with with his dog Danny, and Dario is 307 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.240 sick, and we get seen where Dario reveals his sick and we're introduced to 308 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:36.000 Deal as a character as well, and then they spend a bit of time 309 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:41.119 showing the contrast between their lives. So we see Jojo living in luxury and 310 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.119 he's spoiled and he's wolfing down his food and all that kind of business, 311 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:52.799 and meanwhile Deal is like just impoverished from the streets. He beats someone in 312 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.759 chess and then gets his ass swooped for it, and that's the kind of 313 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:03.039 contrast between these two characters and their lives. And then the other thing that 314 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:10.759 they show off is Joe Joe's kind of morals, I guess or his his 315 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:15.960 ideologies. Were introduced to a character called Arina, and who's as Lucy mentioned, 316 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.759 this pure maiden and you know, she's very pretty and she's being bullied 317 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:25.480 by a bunch of obviously evil people. Again you can say it ne'er du 318 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:27.680 wells. Yeah, near duels. I didn't want to. I didn't want 319 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:32.599 to get that that profane so soon. But let's get it out, ne'er 320 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:37.279 duels. But like they not only did they steal the doll, they go 321 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.680 like, oh, let's let's take its closing. Let's look at this new 322 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.480 Dollincy if it's like the real thing. I was like, oh my god, 323 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:52.160 they're kind of like the clockwork orange ye in a way. Yeah with 324 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:56.920 that hat too, those hats they wear. So she's so so she's being 325 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:03.279 like bullied by these near to wills and having her like doll taken away, 326 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:11.240 and we're introduced to JoJo's idea. He literally comes sprinting from the distance and 327 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.680 is like, iowall fight for you. He has no clue who she is. 328 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.119 It's just seems a lady being bullied by a couple of lads, and 329 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:23.400 he's so introduced like he will blindly Geojo will blindly fight for idealism. He's 330 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:30.079 chivalrous and key phrase here, he wants to be a true gentleman. And 331 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:37.440 we get some very on the nose exposition about what those two characters are like. 332 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.359 So I guess this is a good opportunity to say, like, how 333 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.039 did you feel about that kind of exposition and the way it kind of delivers 334 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:49.519 character because in Western media you might get that over the course of an entire 335 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.279 season, right, like you learned by the end of the season, you're 336 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.079 like, oh, I understand his character, whereas this is Jojo. It's 337 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.599 like up front, these are these characters are saying exactly who they are. 338 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:06.519 Yeah, I know, I mean I like that kind of way of storytelling, 339 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.640 like showing you know, how they react to a situation or the way 340 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:12.480 they behave towards other people. Like I always enjoy that, like when I'm 341 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.880 watching a film something, because it means you kind of get a deeper appreciation 342 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.960 of who that character is and stuff, and just like, yeah, I 343 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.839 like the fact that I feel like I know them, but it also means 344 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.839 and like not just because of what you guys were saying, earlier because we 345 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.200 were talking about Deo and I was like, what's this problem. Jeff said, 346 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.640 he is the true embodiment of evil. But it's like you only see 347 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.720 them within that context, and there is a wider context that we are not 348 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:42.200 getting because we're just seeing how they're reacting and behaving in those particular moments. 349 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.599 So for me, I'm also interested to see. Yeah, we saw some 350 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:51.000 backstory, but there's I feel with Deo especially, there are some missing things 351 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:55.079 that we haven't quite got to the bottom of. But I think in terms 352 00:27:55.119 --> 00:28:00.279 of like in terms of setting up an introduction, moving the story alongs you 353 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:06.400 kind of get to those moments where Deo and Jojo are kind of squaring off 354 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:11.440 against each other. I think it's a very good vehicle for it. Yeah, 355 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.319 So continuing this, we're getting to the bit where he explodes out of 356 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.319 the carriage. The other important thing is Deal is a Deal's dad. Dario 357 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:23.839 is basically about to die and he's like, here's this letter. Take it 358 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.039 to Deal. Take this to the Joe Star mansion. When I'm dead, 359 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.720 they owe me. And he's like, you, I think that you can 360 00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:36.279 become the richest man on the planet or some shit like that, and then 361 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:41.680 we get the kind of the summation of what this series is about, which 362 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.960 is a tale of two youths and a stone mask that alters their fates. 363 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:49.079 And then we get to the bit where we talked about earlier where they where 364 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.960 Deal arrives at the Joe Star mansion and kicks it dog in the face. 365 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:57.759 So John back to you, Yeah, yeah, I really that moment where 366 00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:03.759 Deo steps out of out of the carrots No bounds out of the carriage and 367 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:11.319 he glares at Jojo and the camera punches in with this massive musical cue and 368 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.759 the literal kana for like glare and ominous appearance. I wonder, I wondered 369 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:21.960 what that meant. It kind of means. It's like it's one of those 370 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.119 like it's kind of Japanese word that I don't think literally has like a proper 371 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:30.119 English translation, but it's like the feeling of evil or like something bad about 372 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.680 to have it happen, and that that appeared that we're going to be seeing 373 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:41.000 a lot of that. But yeah, and straight away I I kind of 374 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.480 fell in love with the show in that moment because I was like, this 375 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:52.000 is so ridiculously dramatic and insane and I've never really experienced anything like this like 376 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.039 in or out of anime, and I was I was sold. This was 377 00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.920 the moment that sold me. That's what's amazing. I'm not like I've never 378 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:06.839 had this, Like I've never no program has tried to do this to me. 379 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:15.599 Where you watch a thing and you're like, no, I really enjoy 380 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:22.559 it already. I mean the strategy in which exposition is delivered. You talk 381 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:30.039 about it earlier, you know, when the Western entertainment, right is always 382 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.039 like the thing you hear all the time in like scriptwriting and stuff like that 383 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:40.839 is like never directly describe how someone's feeling. You have to show it right, 384 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.160 You have to like demonstrate it. All that philosophy is thrown out the 385 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.279 window. And this in the way that they tell these stories, like you 386 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:53.839 said, like people have internal monologues and you hear that there's a narrator who 387 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.400 he fills in even more blanks when there's just like I don't know, an 388 00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.880 establishing shot for a second, and you're just like you're like, oh wow, 389 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:06.559 nothing is being left to guess. You're sort of getting everything you need 390 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.480 and it kind of really uh, you know, it flies in the face 391 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.480 of like everything that I consider to be like the quote unquote right way to 392 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.799 tell a story. Of course, there's no real right way, but I 393 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.079 just love that. I love the idea of like, Nope, this is 394 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:27.000 how it's going to operate, and this is how these details and these character 395 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.880 traits and all this sort of stuff is being disseminated. I think that's it's 396 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.200 wild to me, like I've never seen that. I mean, maybe, 397 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:38.160 you know, maybe there's more of that in a lot of the comics and 398 00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.799 graphic novels I read, where they don't necessarily have that time. But there's 399 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:47.119 also a lot of times where comics will take an arc and be like, 400 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.400 yo, we have to we have to explain to you why this person is 401 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:55.240 so jacked up because all this stuff happened to them in the past. So 402 00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.559 uh yeah, I mean, just to see how far you get in three 403 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.000 episodes where you start and where you end at the end of episode three is 404 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:09.759 just like you couldn't do that unless you speedline mainlined the ex position in the 405 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:15.079 way that this show does. Yeah, totally, and zem I think the 406 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:21.119 comic actually moves a little bit slower at this point. They've kind of accelerated 407 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:22.720 a lot for these first three episodes, but I think that's kind of the 408 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:28.839 right move because I think one thing that's kind of interesting here is like Iraqi, 409 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.599 the guy who like writes Jojo this is his This is like he's done 410 00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:36.079 a couple of things before this, like this isn't his first story. But 411 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:40.160 you can really see him learn how to write stories and how to write characters 412 00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:45.279 over the course of this show. And that's one of the reasons I think 413 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.119 it's so fascinating. Like, say, you have Deo and you have Jonathan, 414 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.279 good and evil. They're just so simple, that's what they are, 415 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.200 and every moment of the show is screaming that at you. As time goes 416 00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.480 on, he kind of begins to write like subtler characters, some of some 417 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.640 of whom are like a little more gray and some of whom it's still always 418 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:08.720 very dramatic, but it's it's interesting him kind of watch and like it's interesting 419 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:15.680 watching learning those like storytelling lessons, m for sure. So the next thing 420 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:21.759 that happens after he kicks the dog, which it doesn't really explain why he 421 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.599 kicks the dog other than he notices the connection between the dog and Jojo being 422 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:30.359 happy, and is that that moment is just used to show that Dio's hair 423 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:35.559 to ruin JoJo's life, and he starts by kicking the thing that he in 424 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.920 that moment shows the most affection for, which is the dog. And it's 425 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:45.759 just like this one's evil. Yeah, here you go. You're knocking you 426 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.000 over the head with it. I think at one point he's like, oh, 427 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.359 I'm sorry, I think lunges at me. Yeah, when people, 428 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.240 when people are like, oh, like, what the hell happened? I 429 00:33:54.279 --> 00:34:00.720 think it's when George comes out. He switches. Yeah, he switches to 430 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.559 his like I'm I'm a nice person, fake and fake routine. And it's 431 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.519 like it was an instinct. You know. The dog lunged at me and 432 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:12.599 everyone else, even JoJo's like, I guess, so, Jos, I 433 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.920 guess my friendship dog did deserve that. Yeah, this dog that I've known 434 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.760 my entire life, I guess it does lunge at people. I've never seen 435 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:27.320 it happen before. And this new guy who's very evil looking wanted fantastic. 436 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.840 Without getting into spoilers at all, I will say that dogs have kind of 437 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:40.400 like a a rough time throughout JoJo's And is that a pun like it like, 438 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.360 trust me, it doesn't stop there. Like people have asked Iraqi like, 439 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:50.800 what what's the deal with like just dogs not getting on very well in 440 00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.239 your comics, and his response was, well, dogs are great, So 441 00:34:53.320 --> 00:35:00.639 if there's a bad guy, of course he's going to be mean to dogs. 442 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:05.719 It goes back to that like simple storytelling conceit that you mentioned earlier. 443 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:10.119 Right away. This is early Iraqi ways like good evil clearly like defined and 444 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.639 using that kind of simplicity. There's nothing like there's no easier way to tend 445 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:21.639 to like have people dislike a character and then have them do something to an 446 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:25.920 animal that everyone loves, Like kicking a dog is a very quick way to 447 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.800 make someone unlikable, and it seems like employs it a lot in this. 448 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.679 Yeah. So after that, we get a shot of the stone mask on 449 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:42.760 the wall, which is something that is brief but we'll come back to later 450 00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:46.440 on. And then we also get some information about the two characters. George 451 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:52.440 points out that both Jojo and Dio lost their mothers and they're both roughly the 452 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:58.079 same age. He says something like both your mom's are dead. That means 453 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.800 you're going to get alarm. Yeah, you're good news news here, guys, 454 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.519 they will say. When when it goes to that shot of the mask 455 00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.800 on the wall, I was like, who put that there? That's not 456 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.599 a good place for that, is it? Like interior design? Interior design, 457 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:17.559 Lucy, Yeah, no, the SIMS player. Lucy was like, 458 00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:22.079 I would move that, I would put it in a better place, put 459 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.920 the room together. Yeah, it doesn't spark joy in this current position. 460 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.800 So from that point on we just get a lot of deal making. JoJo's 461 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:38.199 life incredibly difficult, which culminates in a kind of brawl out in the in 462 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:42.840 the field, just a couple of dudes being lads, lads being you know 463 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:46.320 what they do. They do the step brothers bit in the beginning of this. 464 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:52.280 They just have to have it out once up front, really to establish 465 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.800 boundaries. They start there there at their Victorian era fight club, I believe, 466 00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:01.119 Yeah, because JoJo's not supposed to fight him, like Dio specifically asks 467 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:05.800 to be Yeah, he requests in well he's he like this is straight up 468 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.840 like a moment out of wrestling right where it's like someone is there's a clear 469 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:14.320 a fight has been scheduled, but then someone else is just standing at the 470 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.119 Titan Tron and it's like, oh no, oh my god, it's Deo. 471 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:22.719 It's Deo. Oh my god. And then they fight and Deo shows 472 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:28.199 off his what he calls his like booth of boxing, which is a very 473 00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.280 strange I'd never I don't know what that means, but I was like, 474 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:35.400 okay, he's got a style of boxing. But the important part is he 475 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.559 punches him and then jams his thumb in his eye. So what I love 476 00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:44.360 about this bit is like, that's exactly what happens. But he punches him, 477 00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:49.440 knocks Jojo into the air, then he thinks to himself and now time 478 00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:53.039 for the good old thumb in the eye train while time is distorting, and 479 00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.960 then jams his thumb into the eye. And this is something I love about 480 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.119 anime because like a lot of it's based on mange. They can really play 481 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.840 around with time because when you're reading a comic, time obviously doesn't pass the 482 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:08.000 same way, and so they can have things like you know, someone punching 483 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:13.000 someone and what should be a really quick instant be like they can just fit 484 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.639 all this dialogue and it feels normal, but then when they have to put 485 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:21.000 that into motion into anime, it feels really strange and dramatic, and I 486 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.119 kind of love it, you know, like it's it's so much fun. 487 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:29.199 But yeah, he really kicks JoJo's ass. Yeah, he whoops his ass 488 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:32.360 pretty badly, and like Jojo always seems like is known for being a good 489 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.400 fighter because everyone's like those muscles cheering yeah and cheering him on and stuff like 490 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.199 that. And then he gets his ass whooped, he gets thumbed in the 491 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:45.280 eyes, and then, to add insult to injury, Deal describes it as 492 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:52.719 a defensive boxing style, absolutely brutal. And if that wasn't enough, he 493 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.079 tells all of JoJo's mates, I'll teach it to you, but don't tell 494 00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:00.519 Jojo because Jojo can't keep a secret. And it's like it's like this keeps 495 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:07.320 us It's like every every word that comes out of his mouth is so unnecessarily 496 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:13.800 cruel, and it's just it's brilliant. He really does go like it's almost 497 00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:16.760 like he's improving being mean. He's like, yeah, and none of you 498 00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:22.880 guys tell Jojo because you know what, that guy can't keep a fucking secret. 499 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.960 Yeah, that's why he is the king of yes ending bullying. But 500 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.960 yeah, he's just constantly at it and then like it cuts to like his 501 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:36.280 internal monologue Deals, and he talks about how loneliness will make a man hollow 502 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:42.039 and how Deo wants to steal JoJo's life, and then everyone and it works 503 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:46.480 because from that point on everyone calls Jojo Jojo the squealer. It's crazy. 504 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:50.800 It's like, I love that idea that, like the thing that ruins your 505 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:55.280 reputation is, Hey, that guy can't keep a secret. This guy's stays 506 00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.639 with you. But like the thing is, like, these are people who 507 00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.280 have known Jojo their entire life, presumably, and they would have a good 508 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.119 knowledge of whether Jojo can keep a secret or not. All it takes is 509 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:08.800 for Deal to come along and be like, no, he's He's a rat, 510 00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:13.639 and everyone just turns on him, which says a lot about either his 511 00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.559 JoJo's friends or the power that Deal has. Maybe both, I don't know. 512 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.880 In the meantime, while Jojo is being ostracized from his friend's circle, 513 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:29.360 he gets closer with Arina Pendleton, who is the girl he rescued earlier, 514 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:35.119 and she starts to become a source of happiness for him, which naturally means 515 00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.840 Deal has to fuck that up. And how does this happen. He kind 516 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:47.079 of forces himself on her, assaults her effectively, and he points out the 517 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:52.639 fact that her Arena and Jojo haven't kissed, and by kissing Arena, he's 518 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:58.920 stolen JoJo's first kiss between them, which is like fucked up on so many 519 00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:04.920 different levels. So petulant. It's like, yeah, there's something very like 520 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.159 like there's something just genuinely awful about it, because he does like force a 521 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:14.239 kiss from her, But there's also something so weirdly playground about it. Yeah 522 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.119 what I mean, because it's like, now you can't have your first kiss 523 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:22.400 anymore. It's child logic, yea in a cruel man like It's total it's 524 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:27.039 so it's so weird. There's one thing I wanted to bring up really quickly 525 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:34.679 because oh my gosh. Uh in during the time where they're really doing a 526 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:40.800 bit of montage of like the the falling in Love with the Arena and Joejoe, 527 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:46.800 my man is rolling around on the grass like I don't know what. 528 00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:53.519 There is some animation where he's just rolling around like a little like baby idiot. 529 00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:59.559 It is unbelievable, Like I feel like, you know, the only 530 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:00.719 thing I had going into this show was like, Yo, there's a lot 531 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:07.159 of memes out of this show because there's some goofy shit and now I cannot 532 00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.639 watch this without that filter on of being like, oh, should I just 533 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:15.119 record that? Real? Cuche just do that real Like I'm just looking for 534 00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.159 all the things that are right for the picking and him rolling around in the 535 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:24.800 meadow being in love is just a we've all been there. Yeah, just 536 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:30.840 recorded and then twitter with m f W when I'm in love. There you 537 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.480 go when you when you said like him rolling around in the grass, I 538 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:38.440 thought you're going to bring up like grass stains terrible to I was like that, 539 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:42.880 that's where I was going. He's clearly wearing some sort of valor, 540 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:46.440 which wouldn't go well with that of course. So the next thing that we 541 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:52.360 see is following the forced kiss, we finally get the first instance of Deo 542 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.800 cracking a bit, and it's at the hands of Erina. So I love 543 00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:00.440 this bit. I think this is incredible, so cool, because I feel 544 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:05.039 like the kind of lamest thing they could do with Aarona just being like, 545 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.079 oh no, a boy wronged me. But I love that She's like, 546 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.639 no, fuck you, I'm gonna I'm gonna get this guy back, and 547 00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:17.199 so she starts, she dives into the river and starts drinking dirty water in 548 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:22.119 order to wash Dio's kiss out, and it gets them. It breaks the 549 00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:34.880 dude really big man. Yeah, that is their first sign of I guess, 550 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:39.159 not vulnerability, but ego. That's where we learn that ego is his 551 00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:44.760 vulnerability and when you damage it. And because that's her being like, you 552 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:49.679 disgusted me so much that I'm going to fill my mouth with mud water just 553 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.280 to get that the taste of you out, and you're like, Okay, 554 00:43:52.280 --> 00:44:00.519 this guy's this gets fucking He's a narcissist basically. Then next scene, we 555 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:04.800 have a moment where we see Jojo and Arena kind of meat, but she 556 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.840 runs away because she's obviously got the memory of what happened with Deo earlier. 557 00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:15.880 And then conveniently, there's a group of lads, some near Duellers nearby who 558 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:20.360 are maniacally laughed and just say, we don't want to overuse the word like 559 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:24.920 I know, we want to get on iTunes. Okay, there's still like 560 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:32.519 a kind of like this podcast of course. Of course, so Jojo learns 561 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:39.039 from them why Arena ran away, and immediately runs back to the mansion and 562 00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:45.599 we got we get our first ever shout of deal, which happens a lot 563 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:52.039 in this series. And Dio's response is, I wouldn't use my name lightly 564 00:44:52.079 --> 00:45:01.280 if I were you where he that name? I was like, does that 565 00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:07.559 actor's voice not hurt because he's doing a lot of so now that you boy, 566 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.960 our deal is voiced or Jojo, not Jojo, I'm talking about Deo. 567 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.800 Deo is voiced by Takihito Koyasu, who I want to I know JoJo's 568 00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:22.360 voice actor is also very like prolific, but Koyasu son is one of my 569 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:28.039 favorite anime voice actors. He's and I just really he's increase. He's iconic, 570 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.400 He's he's really amazing at the kind of like effeminate anime villain who's like, 571 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:35.960 you know, someone will try and punch him and he'll catch the guy's 572 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:42.159 fist and he'll be like, oh so he's a if you if you want 573 00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.800 to kind of like quick overview of some of the roles that obviously this won't 574 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:49.079 mean much to you, but for people who who have some anime knowledge, 575 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:54.400 He's Dicere in Rama Sakamoto in New Hockey Show. He's in He's two characters 576 00:45:54.400 --> 00:46:00.159 in New y Hockey Show. He's also Kiddo, which is amazing because will 577 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:05.159 come back to it why later. He's Pandora in Yugyo Gartenmorrow in Yu Yasha, 578 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:12.719 Admiral Al Kiji in One Piece Shinska Takasugi in Gin Tama, and my 579 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:19.360 favorite role he is Kura Rio in yak Japan, which is a anime about 580 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:23.000 making bread and in that In that it's it's one of the funniest animals I've 581 00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:29.079 ever seen. In that, he plays a secondary character called Kiddo, which 582 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.280 is an American high school student, which goes back to his role in Uyu 583 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:37.960 Hokey Show. But he's he's iconic, he's prolific, he's amazing, and 584 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:45.360 he's easily one of the standout parts of Jojo. So he after telling Jojo 585 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:52.480 not to use his name lightly, Jojo kind of resolves to kind of not 586 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.559 spend his life in Deal's shadow. He finally kind of breaks and decides that 587 00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:00.320 he wants to fight for Arena's honor and Dio mean, well, we get 588 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:05.760 his monologue and his his goal is, I want to pull for rights Jojo, 589 00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.599 So I want to show him that he could never beat me in a 590 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:15.679 fight or in life, which is very broad objective. That very broad objective. 591 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:21.360 Yeah, go on, now, I was just gonna say because we 592 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.719 were kind of reaching the end of episode one here and I feel like there 593 00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:27.559 was one of the other things that I just wanted to surface, just to 594 00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.599 touch on for a second before we fast forward. What is it seven eight 595 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:35.039 years into the future with the start of episode two? The dad? The 596 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:39.480 dad? Uh? In this first episode, you know, time passes where 597 00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:45.800 they're all living in this like massive estate and Jojo can help him, like 598 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.760 he everything he does. His dad's just like you're a fucking reject. Uh, 599 00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:52.280 you know, deal, look at deal. He's all proper. He's 600 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.280 like a look at deal. Deal is not even my blood. He's just 601 00:47:54.320 --> 00:48:00.159 this adopted Look at the way he's holding yeah, look at that and food 602 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.639 in his mouth without missing it and dropping it right. He's like, listened 603 00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.880 to me Jojo watch Deo like and he's like, what was the thing at 604 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:15.159 the dinner table where Jojo like maybe spilled some wine and slams his fist on 605 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.599 the table that's a white tablecloth. So I I see it from both sides. 606 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:23.119 I know, why is my pattern just about fucking laundry today. By 607 00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:29.400 the way, I need to move on the brain. So I don't know, 608 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.559 I just I could not get around. It was pissing me off. 609 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:38.519 How uh you know? The dad was not. He like he instantly was 610 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:43.639 like, guess what, Jojo do you is my favorite now he's the new 611 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.119 son. He's my new son. I hate you, I love him, 612 00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:51.880 And it's just it was bizarre to me how quickly that happened, and the 613 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.119 events of two and three episode you're like, oh, okay, I guess 614 00:48:54.199 --> 00:49:00.159 Jojo sort of overall that, but yeah, that really set up for even 615 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:05.960 more of like a very complex, paternal weird thing that they had going on. 616 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:08.000 So I think sure, one thing that kind of comes into it later 617 00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:14.880 for Dio is like one of the most dangerous things about Deo as a villain, 618 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:19.760 like more so than the crazy superpowers he is yet to develop, is 619 00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:25.119 the idea that he's just really charismatic and that anyone he meets kind of nearly 620 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:30.199 falls under nearly a kind of spell. And that's a lot of how he 621 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.840 is destroying Jojo in this first episode and one of the reasons I think he's 622 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.480 so fun to watch because it's like it's like you said, there are time 623 00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.320 about like he doesn't just want to beat Jojo in a fight, he wants 624 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:45.920 to destroy him in life. And there's something that is so ridiculous but kind 625 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:52.719 of fantastic about that, Like it's like crazy theater. You know. It's 626 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.280 good to have a goal, you know. Yeah, yeah, I'm going 627 00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.400 to add it destroy someone in the fight and life to my notion board for 628 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:05.760 goals of twenty twenty. Absolutely I could say, like if anyone, just 629 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:07.320 to our listeners, if anyone ever pisses you off, like, don't just 630 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:12.000 resolve to beat them physically, but like take away who they are, Like 631 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:17.199 yeah, yea, their favor artly destroyer. So this is the This is 632 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:23.360 where we finally have a fight between Jojo and Deo proper like a with steaks 633 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:28.480 instead of just a kind of like you know, just a quick brawl to 634 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:32.480 prove who's who's a better fighter. And in this fight, Jojo starts getting 635 00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:39.599 a bit dirty and he starts beating Deal pretty badly, and Deal realizes he's 636 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:45.880 getting his ass whooped, and it's kind of like a tables turned moment. 637 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:51.719 And during this fight, a bit of Deal's blood splashes onto the mask that's 638 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.800 on the wall, and it falls, and very briefly we get to see 639 00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:00.199 that it ejects some sort of curved spikes from around the edges, but they 640 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:07.760 quickly retract when George Joe Star the Dad appears and chastises Joe Joe for attacking 641 00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:15.599 deal while he was down, which is just like, no, my favorite 642 00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:23.679 son, Like all three of them, like they see, like the mask 643 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:28.599 is all is like for a second, they're like, you, guys, 644 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.800 in my note, you guys just don't want to not want to deal with 645 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.840 that right now, like that was his family drama we have gone on in 646 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:38.840 my in my notes, I've written, note his dad is a fucking weapon, 647 00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:45.559 which is true. So true, George is a weapon, and they're 648 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:49.639 I mean, like if it wasn't clear, the rivalry is properly in full 649 00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:54.239 swing there. Meanwhile, outside next scene, a servant is burning a bunch 650 00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:58.840 of things and briefly goes, oh, this is a strange box. I 651 00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.679 don't know what this is. Maybe one of the other servants chucked this out 652 00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:05.519 here. No worries, I'll just chuck this in the furnace and shut the 653 00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.920 door and burn it while it's burning. You suddenly see the door of the 654 00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:17.960 furnace start to bang and move, and it's revealed that inside the box was 655 00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:24.800 Danny the dog, JoJo's beloved companion. Deal in the next scene says, 656 00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:29.119 he might have beat me in the fight, but I ultimately got one over 657 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:32.760 on him, said Deo, feeling a bit hurt about losing the fight, 658 00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:43.639 kills JoJo's dog. Yeah, in the most inefficient way. That's what you're 659 00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:47.199 mad about. I didn't think that that's where your complaint would go. Yeah, 660 00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:51.880 just because he I mean, I realized, like he's such a he's 661 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.320 such a bastard. But it's like, I don't know it. Also, 662 00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:59.079 it also wasn't very obvious. He was like, I mean, I guess 663 00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.519 for us it was our but he had to be like, yeah, I'm 664 00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:07.440 the one who killed his dog, and I went about it not really overthought 665 00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.159 process, like I don't I don't know. I mean, later on, 666 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:14.880 you know that he's got the poison hookup? Why didn't he Just I hate 667 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:21.599 that I'm saying this. This is assume he develops the poison hook up in 668 00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:24.679 the seven years between this episode. Good point. Yeah, he's he's not 669 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:29.119 like a fifteen year old boy being like, Yo, you need anything, 670 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.400 hook up? I got it. And also if the dog is poison like, 671 00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:37.079 there's some there can be some yeah, lack of clarity as to how 672 00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:43.079 that dog died and what's the when it comes to Jojo anyway you excuse to 673 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:46.960 get It's like, oh, a burglar must have broken and not taken anything, 674 00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:52.559 but then start this dog at a bus. So I legitimately I will 675 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.760 do that with Michelle sometimes if I eat like something in the apartment that's hers, 676 00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.920 I'd be like Michelle, I think someone broke into the apartment and when 677 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.119 into the fridge and didn't take anything. But ain't that bar you were saving? 678 00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.840 And I'll still be like John and I'll try and hooker and be like, 679 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:16.159 we just both have to get over this together. I'm gonna start I'm 680 00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:22.880 gonna start doing that as well. So Neil reflects on the fight after revealing 681 00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:28.519 they killed the dog and says something here that kind of reveals a little more 682 00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:32.920 about JoJo's power. I guess. And it's a It's a common shown in 683 00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:40.599 jump style, anime style trop or character attribute. Many many protagonists have it 684 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:45.559 in the world of anime, and it's Jojo is the type of person who 685 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:52.039 gets stronger the more you beat him. So that's a common actual like Goku 686 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:54.320 is a saying and sayings things are every time they lose a fight, they 687 00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:59.679 get exponentially stronger. So it's in Dragon Ball, it's in My Hero. 688 00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.280 It's one piece and pretty much everything, but that's who he is. Deo 689 00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:08.480 meanwhile, is admits that anger is what makes him vulnerable, and then we 690 00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:15.000 get a seven year time skip, and the final shot of the first episode 691 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:20.800 is the mask hanging on the wall as it zooms in, and we get 692 00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:25.000 the first ending theme, which is Roundabout by Yes, which, according to 693 00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:31.280 the anime's director, was one of the many songs that Jojo create Iraqi listened 694 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:36.719 to when he wrote the original manga, which is why we used in the 695 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.320 in the show. I thought he was just going to say was a banger, 696 00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:44.920 because I mean, while that was when I heard that, I was 697 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.599 like, I had my ears like a double take. They were like, 698 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.719 I know this song very well. Depending on this podcast goes on, you 699 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:58.159 might get that a couple of times. Yeah, okay, because I mean 700 00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:02.599 and then well, there's someone's character name in episode two or three from that 701 00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:07.400 same sort of cloth cut from that cloth, and I'm just like, okay, 702 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:10.960 well there's this going on. That reveal I got from Lucy in this 703 00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:16.400 three or caps messages, It's like, but we'll get it. I'm looking 704 00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:20.840 name is what again? Oh, don't get don't get recorded about him? 705 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.280 I was looking up. Oh go on if yes. I never actually acknowledged 706 00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:30.559 the fact that they are like the credit they well they have there's a deleted 707 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.840 Facebook There's a deleted Facebook post which starts that just says what the fuck is 708 00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:37.440 anime? No, it says hello to our friends in Japan. But I 709 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.119 clicked on it and they and they and they got rid of it. But 710 00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:45.159 the other one, Oh was it a video? I'm not watching it. 711 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:50.239 Yeah, I'm not watching it. Seems that they there's one later from that 712 00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:53.760 band. I think it's sound Garden. I think Soundgarden do it? Oh 713 00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.199 yeah, And there's a really good Twitter from then being like, hey, 714 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:07.719 it's cool to see we have so many new fans. Not too sure what 715 00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:13.480 this is, but it's great, you know. So the thing is like, 716 00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:15.880 it's worth like this is. That's the end of episode one, and 717 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:17.440 the recaps for the second and third episode. We'll go much quicker now that 718 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:22.559 we've got the establishment. I mean there was worth a cover. Yeah, 719 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:24.719 it's worth reflecting. I mean, John, you can speak to You spoke 720 00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.599 a bit to it, but you can speak more to it. But like 721 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:32.119 the influence of Jojo, or the power that Jojo has on culture is it 722 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:38.280 can't be understated. Like in terms of manga, it's massively anime is massively 723 00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:45.280 influential. But there are like communities that have been buoyed by the fashion and 724 00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.800 the music, like the kind of Iraqi would go out he did like illustrations 725 00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:53.320 for I think, I think Gucci and other major fashion labels, like he 726 00:57:54.760 --> 00:58:00.079 like, I cannot stress him much. This man is a national treasure in 727 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:04.360 Japan and just adored by everyone. Weirdly, Van Piric as well. He 728 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.679 doesn't age. He still looks like he's in his mid twenties. Wait a 729 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:14.440 minute, Yeah, and also like I like, one of the things that 730 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.599 we see more and more is burnout in in mangaka, Like the people who 731 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:22.320 create these things, like it's for someone who has been going for as long 732 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.199 as Jojo has. It's wilder. The output is insane. It's wild. 733 00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:32.360 Yeah, it's it's incredible, Like he is one of those like legendary or 734 00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:38.079 creators and authors that I think if if it wasn't already, I think would 735 00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:43.239 should get recognized beyond just in Japan as a manga creator, like in terms 736 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:50.119 of writing and creating content as human beings. I feel like he's he's noteworthy 737 00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.519 and Jojo is noteworthy because of that. I'm sorry, do you expect me 738 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:58.800 to believe that this man is sixty one does not look that way? Crazy? 739 00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.199 I looked into that too. Yeah, amazing, He's like the strauss 740 00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:07.320 Zelnick of manga. I mean it kind of makes sense when you when you 741 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:14.159 understand the reveal, like we touched yeah, but yeah, so that was 742 00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:19.840 episode one. Dio the Invader really living up to the title of the episode 743 00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.920 and like, you know, just as like an end and not on episode 744 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:28.440 one. JoJo's is silly and it is really over dramatic and kind of breaks 745 00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:30.920 all kinds of rules. But like the first time I watched this, when 746 00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:35.840 Jojo started beating the shit out of Deo, I was like pumped. I 747 00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:37.280 was like getting best and I was like get them, get them, you 748 00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:42.400 know, And I think for as silly as the show is, I think 749 00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:45.840 like it can get you like that, and like much more so later on, 750 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:49.119 but there is a kind of sincerity that I think we'll get more into 751 00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:52.119 later. But yeah, I think this is a great first episode. Yeah, 752 00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:55.519 fantastic. Yeah, I think it's it's like as far as pilots go, 753 00:59:55.920 --> 01:00:00.480 if we're speaking on like western side, it is the perfect incap sulation 754 01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:02.599 of what this show is. And I feel like, you know, you 755 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:06.440 get some anime that are like, I'll give it four episodes and you'll get 756 01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:08.960 a vibe for how how whether you'll like it or not. No Jojoy is 757 01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:12.599 like, watch that first episode if you like it. I think if someone 758 01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:17.119 hated this, I couldn't imagine myself being like, you know, I think 759 01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:21.400 like, oh, there's there's a vibe to this show that's just not for 760 01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:24.960 you. And then the second episode starts and it's seven years later and we're 761 01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:31.719 playing rugby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very much rugby. Yeah, 762 01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:37.320 there is some sort of weird amalgamation because like he passes forward rugby, you 763 01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.519 pass, he checks it, he chucks it. Does he chuck it back? 764 01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:45.440 Yeah, because he's sprinting towards the goalposts and then yeah, he chucks 765 01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:49.800 it back. But also it's just like the fact that it's not American football 766 01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.360 because he gets tackled and it's like it's not immediately over. He's like he's 767 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:59.679 still standing. He will keep going towards the Yeah. So episode two is 768 01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:07.679 called Letter from the Past. Lucy and Jeff were you when the text appeared 769 01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.480 seven years later? Were you guys taken aback by that at all? Yeah? 770 01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:15.159 I was like, I was like, oh, I think I messed 771 01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:17.440 up. I wanted to make sure I was watching the right ship and I'm 772 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:22.519 like, no, this this makes sense. And then they're like seemingly buddies 773 01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:28.639 because they win the game. They look they like shake hands and clap and 774 01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:31.639 they're like great pass, good try. Like I'm like, okay, I 775 01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:36.719 don't buy this at all. I like, what's happening. The episode one 776 01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:39.199 ends and they're at each other's throats and now they're best buddies. Seven years 777 01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:45.199 has gone by. Are we to assume they somehow patched up their relationship and 778 01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:49.079 they're just friends now in college or whatever the hell it is. Yeah, 779 01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.400 I was. I was definitely like, oh, we're going places right out 780 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.079 of the gate. I don't think. I don't think I was surprised because 781 01:01:55.079 --> 01:02:00.079 I was like my passing knowledge of Jojo is them as grown ups, and 782 01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:05.199 I didn't. I don't. I assumed I was surprised that the first episode 783 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:08.920 was them as kids, so I was. I was more like, just 784 01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:13.159 intrigued. Is to see, you know, the missing years of the relationship 785 01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:17.519 this The episode begins by establishing that we're in London's East End in nineteen or 786 01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:21.760 eighteen eighty eight, and it's seven years later. We'll have a lot to 787 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:24.039 say about the East End of London. What was the name of that street 788 01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:30.320 again? Set, are you guys genuinely which I need? There's no such 789 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:31.920 street as Ogu Street. I did. I think? I did google it 790 01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:37.599 and I did find anything. But the interesting thing for me was like, 791 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:42.159 it's also like Jack the Ripper torments the women of London. It's like, 792 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.639 okay, some good context. Yeah, that's don't don't you worry, Tam. 793 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:51.559 That will become very relevant. I also was like, that seems needless 794 01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:57.960 to bring up needed don't be attaching yourself to Jack the Ripper. Just I 795 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:00.960 just want to stick a marker in this moment that will come back to you 796 01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:06.840 in a later episode. We'll call it a spring Hill Jack marker. But 797 01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:12.880 so Jojo, it also says Jojo and Deal would unleash a new horror to 798 01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.920 the world, and as it does, it shows the mask. We've taken 799 01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:21.880 a moment to talk about OP one, which is this is the first time 800 01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:27.199 we're properly seeing the opening credits for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. The song is by 801 01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:32.559 Hiroaki Tommy Tommy Naga of the Japanese brass rock band Bluff, and it's called 802 01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:39.519 Sonochin no Sadam, which is is written by Shako Fujibayashi and composed by Kohe 803 01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:47.280 Tanaka and arranged by Kawatani. The title Sonachi no Sadam translates to destiny of 804 01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:52.400 that blood or destiny of the blood. That's a literal translation, but like 805 01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:55.960 non literally it's like the destiny of the bloodline, which is I believe that's 806 01:03:55.960 --> 01:04:00.079 correct anyway, which I'm sure you can figure out what that means. Yeah, 807 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:04.199 this is my studio Kamikaze Doga, and this, to me is one 808 01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:09.920 of the best opis of all times. It's incredible and it's not even the 809 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:13.119 best Jojo will be. Yeah, yeah, it is stunning. What did 810 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:15.199 you guys think about the opening credits? I thought it was neat. I 811 01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:20.119 thought, I you know, I guess. Like for me, I assumed 812 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:27.119 the nuances of comic books where each comic is a different cover and there's variants 813 01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:29.440 and stuff like that, and I was like, Okay, so what they're 814 01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:33.599 doing is there's just a brand new opening title sequence, and maybe this will 815 01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:36.519 be a brand I was like, oh, I bet they might do a 816 01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:42.119 brand new one, new one every episode the way we're going here. Uh 817 01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:44.079 yeah, there, you know, I guess. But like for me, 818 01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:45.400 I wasn't really surprised. It's just sort of like, all right, yeah, 819 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:47.639 this makes sense, like let's let's let's see this. Let's see what 820 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:50.440 they do. I like that it's a different animation style. It's it's got 821 01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:54.920 its own vibe. It was cool. Yeah, it looks about like three 822 01:04:54.960 --> 01:05:00.119 D. Then like yeah animation. I'm I'm yet to be convinced if it's 823 01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:05.000 going in like my intro theme Hall of Fame, But I did. I 824 01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:10.000 did enjoy the opening. I do like that Weekends. Could we get some 825 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:14.039 some samples from your intro theme Hall of Fame? I'm curious what Okay, 826 01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:20.000 sopranos, oh, I mean talking about I was talking about anime, but 827 01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:28.320 talking it up to anything there is the My Hero Academia one where I think 828 01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:34.000 it's like from the first season or like part two season one, and then 829 01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:42.960 also just lost any I mean, I mean everything about that opening does what 830 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:47.199 it needs to well, especially especially the rendering error that they never ever fixed 831 01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:51.119 that I have never been able to not see. There is an error in 832 01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:55.760 it. It's there, it's it's yeah, what is it? Is it? 833 01:05:55.800 --> 01:06:00.960 Like? I think I lost? I tweeted about an image of it. 834 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.880 Yeah, I can't believe Sopranos is on that list for you, Lucy 835 01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:14.480 dude, never in New Jersey, like but this song song, Yeah, 836 01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:16.079 I think I think that. I think one of the best intros in the 837 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:24.039 last decade is Stranger Things. I think sence and the I think that's amazing. 838 01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:26.920 And what we do in the Shadows I think is very good too. 839 01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:33.000 That shows so good. I just watched the Jackie Daytona episode. I went 840 01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:38.000 to a bar the other day and they played that song and everyone kind of 841 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:45.079 whips. Yeah, it's great, great, Oh my god. Yeah, 842 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:51.559 I just dropped the picture of the lost rendering error sad realization. I just 843 01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:55.239 saw my reply to that. Is it an error or is it? Or 844 01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:57.960 does it hint that there are flaws in what we're being led to believe. 845 01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:03.039 Think about it, what what is the what's the error? I don't see 846 01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:11.400 it on the s And it's like looks a bit yeah, crunchy. Yeah, 847 01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:15.280 yeah, interesting and you only ready to see it because it zooms very 848 01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:19.679 close. Yeah. So returning to Jojo, Jojo is now in London and 849 01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:28.320 he's buff. He's not he was getting there before, so now he's like 850 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:33.559 swollen. Yeah. This starts what I'm gonna call the very complicated and interesting 851 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:44.519 relationship between Jojoe's bizarre adventure and the male form. And hey, he loves 852 01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:48.599 drawing muscles and it's going to stay that way for a while. M hm. 853 01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:55.599 He likes drawing detailed muscles. So you know you know that picture that 854 01:07:55.679 --> 01:08:00.559 went viral of like the giga chad, Yeah, like the the big chin 855 01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:05.320 lads, super muscular guy. Yeah, that is that is probably like on 856 01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:10.239 the low end for for Jojo. I could just see I could see Jeff 857 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.800 and John just going Google. Yeah. Well yeah, because well there's only 858 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:20.079 two very online people here. Chat is quite something. That's a person all 859 01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:26.520 right. Yeah, looks he looks sharp in a weird way. Yeah, 860 01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:32.239 you never want to run into him. So as we see he's playing rugby, 861 01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:39.800 and they describe Jojo again in his in his elderly years or older years 862 01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:46.399 as mild mannered, one hundred and ninety five centimeter giant. That's it, 863 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:54.119 which is uh, six foot four basically good, but interesting that they went 864 01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:58.840 for sent to me is there. So he gets tackled as he's trying to 865 01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:01.800 make the game winning run. He powers through, showing that he's more powerful 866 01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:08.960 as a person now, and he passes the ball to Dio, who scores 867 01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:14.600 the tray, and Jojo and Dio embrace their buddies, and we learned that 868 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:19.560 Dio has been adopted. But when it cuts to JoJo's internal monologue, Jojo 869 01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:23.800 admits that he still can't see him as a true brother. I love it. 870 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:27.840 I love it because it's a tonal shift of like we did it well. 871 01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.640 I can never could have cut it without your pass. And then like 872 01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:34.560 the bo you motherfucker, but I will never trust you. And then is 873 01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:38.159 like Jojo, you're like a brother to me. And then like you know 874 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:42.640 the cards like that, I'm going to fucking kill It's like I love the 875 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:47.640 tonal shifts. Yes, so they still outwardly they are friends and brothers now, 876 01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:51.800 but internally the same rival recent exists and they've both got each other like 877 01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:58.199 pegged. Yeah, yeah exactly, And Joe Deo outright states that he wants 878 01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:02.119 to Joe Star fortune and we see that George Joe Star is sick. He 879 01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:05.239 got a cold, and it's like I thought it was a normal cold, 880 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:11.720 but it's escalated. The dad is still doing that fucking Deal is number one 881 01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:17.800 son thing? Uh, and Deo does He's like, Deal, you're really 882 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:23.479 cool. I think you're amazing, and Deal responds by doing very evil anime 883 01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:28.199 face in response, which is like, how is no one looking at that 884 01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.319 and being like something like that? Maybe they just think that's that's just his 885 01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:34.199 face. You know, he's got like a resting bitch face, but he's 886 01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:39.239 got resting evil animals animal face. I love. The dad was like whoa 887 01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:41.920 wait, what what did you do with your face? And he was like, 888 01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:46.680 what happened with your face? Those shadows? Why did you angle your 889 01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:54.319 face downwards like that was like no, because you're all red now anyways, 890 01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:59.800 I'm dying, so you guys get out. Then it cuts to Jojo experimenting 891 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:02.199 with the mask. Yeah, he's trying to figure it out. He like 892 01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:06.359 drops blood on it and the spikes appear, and then we learned that it 893 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:10.239 belonged to his mom. So that's why he's trying to figure out, which 894 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:14.119 very weird is my moons a mask? Yeah, I actually only picked up 895 01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:15.439 that detail this time around. I was like, huh, yeah, I 896 01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:19.439 wonder was George's mom an interestingly, Yeah, I thought it would come up 897 01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:24.760 later, but I don't know if that's the case. I love like, 898 01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:30.640 if you wrote down the specific things that happen in everything in JoJo's up till 899 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.439 now, without like the tone or the way they happen, it could be 900 01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:39.199 like just a periodic drama, like a very normal periodic drama, and you 901 01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:45.359 don't necessarily see the fact that we're heading to vampire territory. Yeah it really, 902 01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:47.760 I really didn't. I really didn't see that one coming. Well, 903 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:50.800 even even even with the mask with like the little fangs, I was like, 904 01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:55.000 it's just a nice mess. Yeah, that's the first giveaway. But 905 01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:58.760 you know where I could go, like people rich people always got weird shit 906 01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:04.680 in there and there mansion as well as we'll come to learn later on Jojo. 907 01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:12.319 While experimenting with the mask discovers a letter that has the words Dario brand 908 01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:17.640 written on them. Meanwhile, Dio is taking up some medicine to their dad 909 01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:24.840 George, and there's a series I love this. There's a series of quick 910 01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:31.600 flashes to show the whole process of him acquiring the medicine from a shady person 911 01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:38.039 while he's while he's dressed as a joker from PERSONA five like that. I 912 01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:43.079 love that as a way to of like exposition, to basically catch you up 913 01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:45.920 to where that from. What did you guys think about that? Well? 914 01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:50.680 My my big question was like I don't understand the medicine. Why is it? 915 01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:58.640 Is it like folded in that's medicine from the late eighteen hundred, like 916 01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:02.039 crumbles all the medicine like herbs and shit. I hung on that too. 917 01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:04.520 I was like, that's weird. What is that? It's like a little 918 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:09.880 little weird bandage medicine or something. It doesn't matter, I guess ultimately, 919 01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:15.239 Yeah, but I love that ship. That flashback stuff was like such a 920 01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:18.800 cool way to do it. I love But it's all those panels, it's 921 01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:24.199 the path, it's just paneling right, like uh yeah that you know. 922 01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:29.520 I feel like it's I feel like, Okay, so this is how it's 923 01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:31.199 going to be for a lot of stuff. You see it play out more, 924 01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:35.039 you know, with the end of two and three, and it's it's 925 01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:39.119 effective, like you can't it's undeniably off. Like I think kind of one 926 01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:42.560 of the fun things about anime is like, because the characters are so details 927 01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:44.640 a lot of the time, they can't get away as like with as much 928 01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.800 animation as like simpler stuff. And I really like it when they get creative 929 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:53.640 with like just using very like minimal imagery and doing it well. There's a 930 01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:58.000 bit in this show called flcl where two characters are having a conversation while playing 931 01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:00.960 with a camera, and every like five or six seconds they're taking a photo 932 01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:05.039 and all that's on screen is the polaroid of the photo they take while they're 933 01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:10.279 talking, and it's just really like creative and cool and weird, and bits 934 01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:13.600 like this kind of remind me of stuff like that. That that is I 935 01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:19.159 think a lot of the creative framing on a page like that you get from 936 01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:24.119 some comics where they I feel like every you know, I'm and I'm talking 937 01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:27.640 more like the episodic ones where like you read the book and there's maybe one 938 01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:32.039 or two pages that have like wildly ambitious paneling, right where like they'll just 939 01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:35.840 do something super strange, whether it's like in a spot where like they tell 940 01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:41.960 that story they tell those ten minutes or whatever it is through these really oddly 941 01:14:42.119 --> 01:14:47.239 abstract shapes and whatever, and the and that extends through this like they are 942 01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:53.439 doing that in this cartoon, which I think is so dope, and you 943 01:14:53.479 --> 01:15:00.279 know, I love that ship. So Jojo confronts and based knows says that 944 01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:04.439 he's found a letter to him from Dario, who says he's dying from the 945 01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:10.439 same symptoms as his as their dad is now dying from George's dying from Jojo 946 01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:15.039 grabs a medicine and Deo tries to kind of salvage the situation a bit by 947 01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:18.640 saying, if you doubt that medicine, you doubt our friendship, and our 948 01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:25.560 friendship will be lost, which is such a bummer. Deal couldn't give a 949 01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:30.359 flying about their relationship and they're poor. JoJo's like, yeah, Jojo being 950 01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:35.680 as naive as they come, is like he like feels he that hits him. 951 01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:40.600 But then he also kind of plays his move in the chess game where 952 01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:44.720 he's like, swear on your on the honor of your real father, Dario, 953 01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:47.079 and if you can do that, you will he will put the medicine 954 01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:51.119 back and forget that all this happened. And Jojo is basically counting on Deal's 955 01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:56.039 prior preventing him from swearing on the honor of his father because his father was 956 01:15:56.199 --> 01:16:01.359 a deadbeat nobody. So Deal obviously can't do it, and he attacks Jojo, 957 01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:06.279 basically proving that he's up to no good. He goes for the thumb 958 01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:15.199 in the eye again, which I love one move from seven years ago. 959 01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:21.560 Jojo fights back and throws his ass off that fucking landing area down below, 960 01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:27.000 and then Deo basically is like, I'm gonna despite being discovered. He's like, 961 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.159 I'm going to figure this out and I'm gonna finish this plan. It's 962 01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:33.479 weird because in the next scene, Jojo speaks to Jordan's like, I'm off 963 01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:36.960 to London, which is probably something you shouldn't do, given that you've just 964 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:43.479 outed that your adopted brother is attempting to poison your Dad's been a little murdery 965 01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:46.279 lately. But I gotta get out of I really I need to test this. 966 01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:49.960 Yes, yeah, he does. He does say something like, oh, 967 01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:54.920 only take medicine from these doctors. That he does do the least amount 968 01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:58.720 of effort to sort of you know, protect him while he's gone. Yeah, 969 01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:02.000 does bail. But I guess he feels like if he just outright said 970 01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:08.239 like, oh, you know your adopted son's trying to kill you, he 971 01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:11.000 needs like he obviously needs to go and get more proof of proof and whatever. 972 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:14.479 That's what he's going to do it. But like, yeah, if 973 01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:18.680 George, we've established shitty father, imagine like it wouldn't have it wouldn't be 974 01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:23.239 you know, narratively as interesting if George just like believed him. So he 975 01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:28.359 needs to go out and obviously the call of ogre Street is too strong. 976 01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:31.760 Yeah, he does. As Jeff mentioned that, he does say like, 977 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:35.640 hey, only take medicine from these servants. And my favorite thing is it 978 01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:42.479 cuts to that one other servant who's like, what the fuck is he the 979 01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:46.760 one who doesn't want to go up the stairs. Though maybe I think it's 980 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:49.279 just one of those random jokes that they check. Oh yeah, it's just 981 01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:51.600 like, well fuck me. I guess I like, it's like, what 982 01:17:53.079 --> 01:17:57.720 I shouldn't have stood on this fucking side of the room. But yeah, 983 01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:01.319 so he's off. Jojo dressed as show goes off to London. She dresses 984 01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:09.359 buff Sherlock goes off to London. Dio meanwhile, I was like, I'm 985 01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:13.039 going to use the mask which I saw react to the blood of many years 986 01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:15.960 ago, and I'm going to use that to kill Jojo by having it puncture 987 01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:20.319 his brain. Yeah, in Deo is kind of a sequence of impractical murders. 988 01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:25.199 I think he's really up to game since the old Dog on fire. 989 01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:30.880 I was gonna say, Dio's kind of doing some real road Runner esque vibes. 990 01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:38.760 Yeah, this is big white road Runner. This this fight. It 991 01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:43.439 comes to two days later and Jogos like ship the university couldn't figure out the 992 01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:47.800 medicine, so he thinks he realizes of Asian origin, which is an interesting 993 01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:51.079 leap to make, and then he's like, well, where do all the 994 01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:56.479 Asians hang out with the dangerous poison? He's like, Ogre Street, the 995 01:18:56.520 --> 01:19:00.319 most dangerous part of London where Asian medicine is sold. For why Ogu Street 996 01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.920 there must I wonder if there's anything, I mean, how do you make 997 01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:09.399 a street sound evil? I guess I don't know. Ogre doesn't sound super 998 01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:12.359 evil to me, But I mean he does get jumped like thirty seconds. 999 01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:15.640 I mean, to be fair, this was pre Shrek, which I feel 1000 01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:19.399 influenced. How we how we see Ogres a lot. So in Ogre Street 1001 01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:23.199 he's attacked by three rubbers and he fights them off. He does some cool 1002 01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:27.640 shit like catch a knife in his hand. He threatens to kick a dude 1003 01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:31.800 in the dick by comparing his foot to a sledge hammer, which is at 1004 01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:38.840 a pretty hardcore. Please, we can't forget the cat that's eating the cat 1005 01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:43.279 puppy, puppy. Yeah, that's how bad Ogre Street is. Cats are 1006 01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:48.560 eating then, yeah. Yeah, it's come to another in the second in 1007 01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:54.239 the dogs being mistreated in Yeah yeah. Should we keep a running counts? 1008 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:57.359 I mean, it's going to get pretty pressing, but we could. Yeah, 1009 01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.840 alright, we're only a three. Jo Jojo also proceeds to fight anime 1010 01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:10.680 odd job who's got razor huts, and wins by taking the razor hat to 1011 01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:15.319 the arm and overcoming the fear of and pain of doing that with his force 1012 01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:19.640 of will. The man in the hat asks why Jojo held back on hurting 1013 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:24.600 him. Jojo retaliates, but it doesn't actually hurt him, and Jojo explains 1014 01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:30.039 that he knows the man has a family and he doesn't want to cause them 1015 01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:39.560 grief, which is earnest Jimbo, I just love, like, how unnecessary 1016 01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:45.359 that dude's like pizza cutter hat was and shit was so unnecessary. It's got 1017 01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:50.720 three circular blades on it, three circular blades that wrap around the entire perimeter 1018 01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:56.560 of it. Not to mention, it flew around by itself and did a 1019 01:20:56.680 --> 01:21:01.760 dance in the air. Well you right this more, it did some ship 1020 01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:06.680 by itself, even to the surprise of perhaps the owner of said he was 1021 01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:10.279 just sort of like, oh, do whatever it wants today. I don't 1022 01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:14.039 know, Jeff, just just wait till the Nazi cyborgs start showing up. 1023 01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:17.399 Yeah, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, last one, I promise. 1024 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:23.159 The man as a response to this text, a real liking to Jojo 1025 01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:26.399 and calls him, okay, a true gentleman. This is my favorite bit. 1026 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:30.279 The entire resolution of this conflict is one of the one of the street 1027 01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:38.279 tufts being like this guy is so fucking cool, Like we love cool guys. 1028 01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:42.119 We're cool guys. You're a cool guy. Why are we fighting? 1029 01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:47.399 Everyone knows on Ogre Street that you can survive if you're just a cool dude. 1030 01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:54.119 Like we said, big himbo energy happening in this fight, so he 1031 01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:59.640 offers to help him track down the kind of origins of the medicine. Interesting 1032 01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:04.319 bit is the anime Odd Jobs says a name that in the crunchy Roll version 1033 01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:10.920 isn't subtitled. It's a name that's revealed later, but you can pick up 1034 01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:15.479 on it. It is, you know, the character's name. It's the 1035 01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.439 one that we talk about talked about earlier and is and comes later. But 1036 01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:25.800 he's actually mentioned here for the first time, and the subbing just does not 1037 01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:28.199 say it, just skips over it, unless I missed it, but I 1038 01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:31.640 was listening with now. I think it was in episode three when they say, 1039 01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:35.880 yeah, that's the first time they mentioned that name. But the character, 1040 01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:43.960 the Odd Job Lad, does say it. So three days pass after 1041 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:46.760 that and Deo is basically like, God, I hope JoJo's dead, but 1042 01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:53.880 he's also succumbing to alcoholism like his dad, deal is quickly, so he's 1043 01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:56.640 like God damn. He's like, God damn, I hope Jojo is dead, 1044 01:22:56.640 --> 01:23:00.399 but also I cannot stop drinking. What's going on? They just punching 1045 01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:04.439 on a bottle. It's just like this old thing again. Yeah, just 1046 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:10.399 like my dad, right, And then oh gosh, yeah, I thought 1047 01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:14.479 that was I mean, he became an alcoholic in fourteen frames. So I 1048 01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:18.800 don't know, I don't know what to say. So Deo decides he's going 1049 01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:23.119 to use the mask as a test on some random dudes to try to jump 1050 01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:26.560 him before he tries it on Jojo, And during the fight, the mask 1051 01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:30.199 attaches itself onto one of the thug's faces and he dies, and Deo's like, 1052 01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:33.600 oh, I guess it's just a boring toy for torturers. But then 1053 01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:45.199 the house, yeah, that blows to JoJo's mom, which is some implications 1054 01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:50.079 about JoJo's mom based on that, Deo learns very quickly is way more than 1055 01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:57.960 that. As the dead Lad returns as some sort of monstrous demon. He's 1056 01:23:58.079 --> 01:24:01.720 super powerful because he just whoops Deo's ass real quick and launches him across the 1057 01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:08.399 street, and he doesn't seem to feel pain. And the Lad gets up 1058 01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:15.640 close and sticks his fingers through Deal's skin and starts drawing his blood, restoring 1059 01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:23.239 his own youth, which just looked so Latexi and upset. I feel like 1060 01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:29.079 that bid in particular is a real tonal shift even from everything else so far 1061 01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:32.039 ahead. How did you guys, Like, was that like a moment for 1062 01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:38.520 you guys? So if I could be completely transparent. The biggest maybe thing 1063 01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:44.800 that had kept me from really diving deep into anime maybe in my late after 1064 01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:47.560 post college years, was like I was kind of a baby about it. 1065 01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:53.039 And I don't like gore at all, Like Gore upsets me. I like 1066 01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:59.039 campy gore, like evil dead shit, but I don't like brutal. Like 1067 01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:02.880 I just there's stuff if I don't like I like resident Evil, that's all 1068 01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:06.760 fine and good, but like there's certain can't explain it. There's something about 1069 01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:11.560 some anime gore that I've seen, like Gifts of or whatever. I'm just 1070 01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:14.479 like, I don't want that. There's a certain I'll be honest of anime 1071 01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:20.000 gore from like a lot of late eighties stuff that is just very it's very 1072 01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:25.319 grizzly and like it's not there's no kemp, it's not you're not watching Mortal 1073 01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:30.119 Kombat Fatalities. You're watching right, pretty Nazi stuff. Yeah, And I 1074 01:25:30.199 --> 01:25:33.800 worried that this might have that, and I kind of like just sort of 1075 01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:39.199 got into it something that you wouldn't see in RESIP. I'm like, this 1076 01:25:39.239 --> 01:25:41.640 is cool. Yeah, I'm like this is cool. You're doing it the 1077 01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:45.520 way I'm cool with it. So so yeah, But as to how I 1078 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:47.279 felt, like, yes, this was definitely a turning point where I was 1079 01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:50.279 like, Okay, his fingers are in his neck, They're not just the 1080 01:25:50.359 --> 01:25:53.920 reason, not just grabbing his neck. We're doing this now, and this 1081 01:25:53.960 --> 01:25:58.800 show has gone from maybe like a real loose pg. Thirteen to a definitively 1082 01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:03.000 very hard are and it felt the right. Yeah, it was how did 1083 01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:05.680 you feel about it? It was a turning pot for me because there are 1084 01:26:05.720 --> 01:26:12.880 obviously the undertones of just the dog stuff, like particularly dog getting burned alive 1085 01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:16.000 and like some thumb in the eye stuff is just like you know what, 1086 01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:19.199 it just it just feels a little uncomfy. And then I got to this 1087 01:26:19.239 --> 01:26:21.640 moment I was like, oh, Okay, we're just we're going into it. 1088 01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:26.159 We're doing the horror thing, We're doing the gore thing. I also 1089 01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:29.279 I also thought like, in terms of vampire fiction, I thought the way 1090 01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:32.760 that he drained the life force was really really cool, Like it's not just 1091 01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:35.479 like the bite on the neck and sucking the blood out. It's not even 1092 01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:41.359 if you think about the way then I'm referencing the nineteen ninety nine classic The 1093 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:44.560 Mummy here, But if you think about the way Emotep sucks the life force 1094 01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:46.800 out of people, it's just stand in front of them and open his mouth. 1095 01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:51.880 But the fact that like he gets under the skin and I yeah, 1096 01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:57.079 and the way that in the way that deer like he's all viscerara and stuff, 1097 01:26:57.079 --> 01:26:59.840 it's yeah. I thought it was really cool like that moment a lot. 1098 01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:03.560 And if it wasn't clear enough that these are vampires, the mask has 1099 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:08.640 turned this lad into a vampire. Deal is saved when the sun rises and 1100 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:11.880 the man burns up and he's like, God, damn, this sucks. 1101 01:27:13.399 --> 01:27:16.439 And at that moment we start to get the first few notes of Roundabout beginning 1102 01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:21.640 to play, as Deal returns home to find Jojo there with evidence of his 1103 01:27:21.720 --> 01:27:26.119 plan, and then the full song kicks in, and I thought that was 1104 01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:30.520 fucking cool. I thought I liked that one better because it was like the 1105 01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:32.880 little guitar picking for a little bit and then you'd change scene and then a 1106 01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:34.840 little bit more, and then it just went into it and I was like, 1107 01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:38.279 oh, Pell yeah, I feel more. I feel pumped. It 1108 01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:42.840 never gets old. It never gets old, like even all the memes I've 1109 01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:45.279 seen of roundabout it. Just I love it. It makes me laugh every 1110 01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:55.399 time. So that was episode two, A Letter from the Past. Episode 1111 01:27:55.399 --> 01:28:01.920 three, Youth with Deal. Basically the names like what is it? I 1112 01:28:01.960 --> 01:28:04.720 mean, Deo the Invader makes sense to me, but like a lett from 1113 01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:10.239 the Past, all right, and then Youth with Deo, Yeah, make 1114 01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:14.119 sinse at the end at the end, yeah, okay, yeah, but 1115 01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:17.960 I but I agree with Lucy, Like this third title was definitely the sort 1116 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:21.640 of biggest, you know, creative leap that they kind of did with that 1117 01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:26.800 titling, for sure. So it picks up pretty much where we left up. 1118 01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:30.560 Deal realizes he's been caught, but he's like fucking on a fight Jojo 1119 01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:33.520 anyway. JoJo's like, I've got an antido and I gave it to Dad 1120 01:28:33.560 --> 01:28:39.239 already, so sucks to be you, buddy. And then JoJo's like, 1121 01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:43.600 I'm heartbroken. I can't believe you've done this. I can't believe my favorite 1122 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:49.000 son, Deal betrayed me. Yeah. So Deo's like okay. So they're 1123 01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:54.960 basically like about to arrest Deo and Deo's like, Jojo one last favor, 1124 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:58.119 Please just give me the times. Oh, he's about to turn him in. 1125 01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:01.359 Basically Jo's deal like, please give me the time to turn myself in. 1126 01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:09.640 And then because ploy it's so obvious and if it wasn't obvious, it 1127 01:29:09.640 --> 01:29:13.680 cuts the deal's internal monologue and he's like, fuck, I can't believe Jojo 1128 01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:16.880 made it out of the slums, and I'm gonna instead stab him in the 1129 01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:20.000 back. And while he's doing that, forming in the plan, he's trying 1130 01:29:20.039 --> 01:29:23.199 to get sympathy and he's like, oh, man, I grew up poor 1131 01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:26.119 and Shi was real rough for me. I'm sorry I did this. I 1132 01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:31.800 just want to make amends. And from the shadows a man is like, 1133 01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:36.039 don't trust him, Deal, and then he flicks a match to light his 1134 01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:45.079 face and reveals himself as Robert e. O Speedwagon, the Meddler. I'm 1135 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:49.840 not, like, you know, the meddler. Yeah, I feel like 1136 01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:56.039 that's why maybe in the subs they didn't put his name in the last exactly 1137 01:29:56.199 --> 01:30:01.920 what intro moment. I yeah, I'm still really I'm still reeling from it, 1138 01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:06.920 the fact that his name is fucking Robert EO Speedwagon. Like, so 1139 01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:12.520 for people who don't know that is, of course Ario Speedwagon, the musical 1140 01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:17.840 group which which again I guess I know I keep saying, we have we 1141 01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:23.920 have now we have Deo and Rio Speedwagon, Dio Bean, Monnie James, 1142 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:28.560 Dio Andri speed So I see what I definitely I mean the first time I 1143 01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:31.119 saw Deo, that's the thing I thought. And then other things popped up 1144 01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:33.399 and I was like, okay, we I can do this. I could 1145 01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:39.439 do we can we can do this all day like that's fine, which really 1146 01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:43.840 should have better informed my guest for when the comics came out, like Robert 1147 01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:47.960 Robert Eo Speedwagon has the same energy as one of my favorite accounts is like 1148 01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:51.840 Bad Fortnite Names and Bad Destiny two names, and there is one that I 1149 01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:56.920 will never be able to forget, and that's John Fortnite Kennedy and Robert Eo 1150 01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:02.520 Speedwagon. That's the same five. Yeah, I've seen Sonic d Hedgehog, 1151 01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:06.000 which is one of my favorites because it's like one piece if I that's pretty 1152 01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:11.600 good will of the That's what I like. But here we have him Orio 1153 01:31:11.680 --> 01:31:15.039 Speedwagon. Robert Eo Speedwagon has returned with Jojo from London. And he's like, 1154 01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:19.279 listen, I was raised in Squalor, I can sniff out. I 1155 01:31:19.399 --> 01:31:24.560 love this bit because he's like, okay, Jojo, me and you cool 1156 01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:30.800 guys. This guy worst. He's like, I have grown up around some 1157 01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:33.359 awful people. I can sniff out a bad dude, let me tell you. 1158 01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:36.720 And he literally says, I sniff out bad dudes. Deo stinks of 1159 01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:41.199 being a wicked man. It's like, okay, okay, we get it. 1160 01:31:41.479 --> 01:31:45.359 So like it's nice to have someone who's just immediately like this guy's bad, 1161 01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:46.960 right, Like does everyone know that this guy is bad? Because currently 1162 01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:51.720 Deo is surrounded by people who are unclear about whether he's bad or not, 1163 01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:57.720 Like George doesn't know it, and Jojo is naive enough to be tricked by 1164 01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:01.119 him the moment he's like, oh, please ease. So like Orio Speedwagon 1165 01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:04.600 is like fuck this guy and fun everything about him, and you're like, 1166 01:32:04.680 --> 01:32:09.199 finally good, someone who's can clearly like pin the tail on the donkey, 1167 01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:14.439 and he like keeps going. He's like, this dude isn't just bad. 1168 01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.279 He was born bad. He was this is he didn't become like this. 1169 01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:20.760 He was liked it from the beginning, and then he goes to the curt 1170 01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:28.319 and behind him and pulls out the man who sold sold the poison. That 1171 01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:33.079 exact he's there. He's been hiding, he's been behind the curt. Yeah, 1172 01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:39.720 And at that exact moment, George appears and is like, what the 1173 01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:43.079 hell is going on? He's heard everything that's happened, and it's like it 1174 01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:46.359 goes from like it goes. It reminds me of a Spanish like soap opera 1175 01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:49.479 moment that like, not an actual Spanish swap opera, but the way it's 1176 01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:55.000 presented on like a American sitcom like Days of Our Lives and Friends, where 1177 01:32:55.000 --> 01:33:00.279 it's like hamming it up and it's that kind of moment. This is very 1178 01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:04.680 much a soap opera, the sipius the soap operas. Yeah, for sure 1179 01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:09.079 it is, yeah, and I love it for that. And then the 1180 01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:12.880 poison guy based it cuts to his his internal monologue and he's like, Deo 1181 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:15.199 is not going to get captured. He was born with the devil's luck. 1182 01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:19.039 And one of the things they point out is that the three marks on his 1183 01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:27.680 ears as well. But he's like this, that's a devil's mark of some 1184 01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:31.039 sort. And then Deo does this little thing they drop in there and never 1185 01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:35.880 comes up again, never come back. They're just like, wait, I'm 1186 01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:40.720 sorry I Google because I was like, it's three miles on an ear, 1187 01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:44.640 like an actual thing, and you know, consensus, No, except for 1188 01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:47.560 the fact that's Sweary tweeted I have three miles on my ear. Then that 1189 01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:57.960 same position Deo that kind of tracks that he bought with the Devil's luck. 1190 01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:03.359 Yeah, Deo Leo from there continues his what is me act and asks Jojo 1191 01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:09.199 to be the one that coffs him. They're surrounded by police, like I 1192 01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:13.880 was actually going to stab your last time, but this time, which is 1193 01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:18.600 really appreciated. And as he's as he makes that, Deo starts talking internally 1194 01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:23.720 about throwing away humanity and he does it externally, right, he's actually saying 1195 01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:27.920 it out loud where he's like, I've moved beyond humanity and I'm throwing it 1196 01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:30.600 away. And then as he does that, he pulls out the curved knife 1197 01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:36.319 from earlier and makes a stabbing motion and you hear, you hear what looks 1198 01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:42.560 like Jojo be stabbed, but it isn't. Jojo. That Dad has finally 1199 01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:46.279 done something and thrown himself in front of the knife and been right. That's 1200 01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:58.720 right on his deathbed two weeks prior now moving at the speed of the knife, 1201 01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:01.840 and Joe Jo it was I guess he really did. It was a 1202 01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:10.159 good reveal, good reveal. Deal wipes the blood on the mask and as 1203 01:35:10.199 --> 01:35:13.600 he's doing that, he's like shot out of the he puts the mask on 1204 01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:18.279 and all the cops opened fire or someone opens fire. Some cops. The 1205 01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:21.720 cops open fire. Yeah, and he's shot out of the window and is 1206 01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:28.800 seemingly dead. And then in their dying moments, the dad gives Jojo a 1207 01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:32.760 ring that belonged to his mum, and one of the melodramatic cops decides this 1208 01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:36.760 is his moment to have his origin story. Yeah. He's like, God, 1209 01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:40.039 damn, I could have stopped all this, and you're like, all 1210 01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:44.479 right, cop. So little cop is like, I regret not banishing Deo 1211 01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:49.199 Dario brand and you would get some history and someone basic Dario tried to pawn 1212 01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:55.199 the matching ring a long time ago, and that was Dario who stole it 1213 01:35:55.239 --> 01:36:01.399 from them at the beginning of episode one. Isn't it so interesting the choice 1214 01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:05.640 to like turn that into all it was probably I don't know, three minutes, 1215 01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:10.439 right, whereas like every a lot of other things, they're just like, 1216 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:13.000 yo, let's panel this out, like let's just go like bomb bomb 1217 01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:15.000 mom. You know, I just thought I found that to be interesting. 1218 01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:18.239 I guess because that is the opening scene in the pilot where like you see 1219 01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:24.560 the looting thing and there is an attention to detail on that specific story plot 1220 01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:27.800 where you're like, all right, okay, this maybe makes sense to flesh 1221 01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:31.960 that a little more with with Dario. Yeah, so what happened was Dario 1222 01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:38.680 stole it from them, But George doesn't dub him in and like basically doesn't 1223 01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:42.319 press charges. Instead, he gives him the ring and says like, take 1224 01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:45.479 this ring, it swarth a lot of money, leave the criminal life behind. 1225 01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:50.239 And then George basically asks Jojo to take pity on Deo as they're dying 1226 01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:58.439 and bury deal with his with Dario. And then there's a moment where the 1227 01:36:58.520 --> 01:37:02.079 cop is like, will never find someone as kind as George show Star ever 1228 01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:06.560 again, And then it cuts to Speedwagon The Speedwagons like, Sir Joe Star 1229 01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:11.680 has passed his noble spirit to his son Jonathan, and it has become his 1230 01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:15.399 iron, will, his pride, and will create his future. So basically 1231 01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:21.039 being like George's or George's spirit or being cool. Dude is now in his 1232 01:37:21.079 --> 01:37:27.479 son and he's screaming it. Yeah, he's like, yeah, right, 1233 01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:32.079 there are everyone. Everyone in the area has heard what's happening here. Basically. 1234 01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:39.279 Speedwagon then turns to see that Deo's body is gone, but the mask 1235 01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:44.239 is still there. And then no, there's no moment for like intrigue to 1236 01:37:44.439 --> 01:37:48.039 even begin to enter your mind, because immediately one of the cops has the 1237 01:37:48.039 --> 01:37:54.479 top of his head sliced off, and Deo returns as a monstrous vampire. 1238 01:37:55.840 --> 01:37:58.520 The way the way he cut that head off was pretty secular. Yeah, 1239 01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:01.199 it was pretty cool. It was very much Yeah. Actually reminded me of 1240 01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:08.720 that Ari seven moment. Yeah, where Jack Baker uses the shovel on the 1241 01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:15.079 Yeah, it's that exact same thing. And so like Deo is, he's 1242 01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:18.279 like Spider Man up on the wall and then he drops down and in and 1243 01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:23.680 Jojoe is about to shoot him, but he ain't got the guts to shoot 1244 01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:28.880 him, so Speedwagon pops him right in the face, Like Speedwagon got no 1245 01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:32.359 problem doing it. And there's a cool shot where it's like Jojo with the 1246 01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:34.840 gun, but he's not able to shoot him and right next to him, 1247 01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:39.039 real close to Speedwagon, and it's a really cool pose that they've got going 1248 01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:43.840 on together. And it doesn't The shot does nothing, like he's shopped to 1249 01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:46.720 the head and does nothing. Deal just leaps into the dramatically and talks about 1250 01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:51.520 how his marvelous new power come from came from the masque and George Joe Starr's 1251 01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:55.640 blood, and then he just starts sucking the life out of one of the 1252 01:38:55.680 --> 01:39:00.800 officers and he quickly injures Speedwagon. There's all so a moment where we get 1253 01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:06.640 one of Deal's iconic noises. I don't know if we describe him as noises 1254 01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:11.279 or phrases. They start off as noises, but then they become phrases and 1255 01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:15.920 the noises yah, which is one that will come up again in the future. 1256 01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:20.319 JoJo's like this, I'm gonna fight him, but Speedwagons like, don't 1257 01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:24.840 do it, bro, this you're gonna get messed up. The cool guys 1258 01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:27.199 we're dropping like flies. We need you. It's like, yeah, we 1259 01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:30.399 need we just lost, Yeah, we lost George. We're down to two 1260 01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:33.119 of us. The cop had his moment. He was not, in fact 1261 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:36.640 a cool guy. He did not, he did not press charges. But 1262 01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:41.079 JoJo's like, I feel responsible for what happened, and I'm gonna, I'm 1263 01:39:41.119 --> 01:39:45.000 gonna, I'm gonna fight this, and JoJo's like. Jojo gets himself prepared 1264 01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:48.039 to fight by saying like Deal's not human anymore and even if he was his 1265 01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:53.119 brother at one point, Deal needs to die, and then speedwagons basically like 1266 01:39:53.159 --> 01:39:57.479 this dude is immoral. Don't don't fight him. The fight begins and we 1267 01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:03.840 get the second iconic Deal phrase, which is hingjacku hingjacko, which is translates 1268 01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:11.159 to so weak, and then Jojo, which is it. It comes up 1269 01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:15.560 a lot in this. It's gonna be a thing. Yeah this. Deo's 1270 01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:18.479 noises and phrases are a big part of the fandom. My favorite, my 1271 01:40:18.520 --> 01:40:24.840 favorite ones coming up. Yeah, yeah, I don't know which one you're 1272 01:40:24.880 --> 01:40:28.439 talking about because there's so many, but you can say it when when when 1273 01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:32.600 you when it comes. So, JoJo's injured during the fight and he hides 1274 01:40:33.479 --> 01:40:39.239 not very well. Deo sniffs him out. Yes, he's a big fellow. 1275 01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:46.600 He's one hundred and ninety five centimeters. Deo literally sniffs him out and 1276 01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:49.680 he finds him hiding behind the curtain and there's like a pool of blood from 1277 01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:54.000 coming behind the curtain and he like very arrogantly walks over and it's like, 1278 01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:57.279 bitch, you thought you could hide behind her. And then he pulls a 1279 01:40:57.359 --> 01:41:00.920 curtain aside, but he's met with just any ruption of flames because this was 1280 01:41:01.119 --> 01:41:06.640 JoJo's plan. He's hiding behind the thing waiting with fire with Speedwagon. And 1281 01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:12.000 then Jojo quickly throws Speedwagon to safety and just just like run, so he 1282 01:41:12.039 --> 01:41:18.720 throws him out of the mansion, absolutely yeats Speedwagon wild. It's called spatial 1283 01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:25.680 spatial creative license. Becas is now completely out there, like things are about 1284 01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:29.399 to get weird. Yeah, and then Jojo is like inviting Deal up to 1285 01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:33.039 the landing to come and fight. He's basically egging him on. He's using 1286 01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:40.319 himself as bait to take the distract Deal away from Speedwagon, and Deo climbs 1287 01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:46.119 up a wall by putting his feet through the wall like he's just walking up 1288 01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:50.640 a wall forcefully, and it is the coolest shit. And I'm guessing this 1289 01:41:50.720 --> 01:41:56.600 is the phrase that you're that you're talking about, yeah, which is do 1290 01:41:56.640 --> 01:41:59.720 you want to say it or I'm not going to try and do the actual 1291 01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:01.319 way he says it, because I feel like this has been going quite well 1292 01:42:01.319 --> 01:42:04.199 and I don't want to ruin it. Yeah, but yeah, when says 1293 01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:08.960 Muda, Muda, muda, or useless, useless, useless, or like 1294 01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:14.720 pathetic, pathetic, pathetic, it's it's just it's so stupid, but such 1295 01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:20.119 a perfect the phrase. Yeah, it happens a lot, and if he 1296 01:42:20.279 --> 01:42:27.279 the character he voices, this voice actor of voices in Japan. He there's 1297 01:42:27.279 --> 01:42:31.600 a scene where he goes up to a cook who's like failed the task and 1298 01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:34.560 is like, it looks like he's consoling him by whispering in his hair, 1299 01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:38.399 and everyone's like, oh, he's consoling him, and it cuts to him 1300 01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:42.720 and he's whisperings in his air, which is just trash, trash, trash, 1301 01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:45.039 trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, trash. So people 1302 01:42:45.079 --> 01:42:48.079 have linked this kind of style to him as a voice actor and they use 1303 01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:53.600 it whenever they can. But Muda is an iconic one. So by then 1304 01:42:53.680 --> 01:42:58.239 the fire has engulfed the mansion and we see a really poetic shot of like 1305 01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.279 George who's like laid out on the table, born dead, just burning up 1306 01:43:00.319 --> 01:43:04.760 in the fire, and Jojo as he's like trying to maneuver around. Deal 1307 01:43:04.880 --> 01:43:11.079 also gives him this whole touching eulogy, which was kind of fun. And 1308 01:43:11.920 --> 01:43:16.439 then during the fight there we get another Hinjaku hinjaku, and as that happens, 1309 01:43:16.520 --> 01:43:20.560 Jojo kind of flashes back to their youth and remembers all the shitty things 1310 01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:24.119 that Deal's done to him, and he's like, I'm gonna end this. 1311 01:43:25.439 --> 01:43:29.600 And then they're on a roof by now and Speedwagon starts to see what Jojo 1312 01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:32.840 is up to. He's basically drawing the fight out so that the flames burn 1313 01:43:32.960 --> 01:43:36.119 up as much of the house as possible, so I can get as hot 1314 01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:43.079 as possible so that Deo can't regenerate when he's in the fire. And then 1315 01:43:43.239 --> 01:43:45.840 once he feels like he's reached that point, Jojo throws himself at Deal and 1316 01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:49.199 they both plunge back into the fire. He's like, I'm going to sacrifice 1317 01:43:49.239 --> 01:43:57.119 my life to take out Deal, but DM Deo hits him with a goodbye 1318 01:43:57.279 --> 01:44:02.800 Jojo and like plunges his arm I'm into the wall and basically secures his position 1319 01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:08.760 incredible arm strength holding up his entire body and he's like he is stuck in 1320 01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:14.600 like foam core. It is so, but they're goodbye good It doesn't say 1321 01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:19.520 good bye his goodbye Jojo, he's my favorite. Yeah. So they so, 1322 01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:25.760 just for context, they're falling through a sort of like rectagonal like pit 1323 01:44:26.479 --> 01:44:30.520 Rectagonal is not a word. Rectangular is the word. Sure, yes, 1324 01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:36.439 thank you, thank you. I'm also taking creative freedom with English with shapes, 1325 01:44:38.279 --> 01:44:42.840 with shapes like it is insane that they fall for like four miles. 1326 01:44:43.079 --> 01:44:45.800 Yeah. Well, I mean, Jeff, you've clearly you've clearly not been 1327 01:44:45.880 --> 01:44:48.840 in any English manners. Yeah, we've all got him. No, Yeah, 1328 01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:53.680 well, like they have this sort of you know, valley within them. 1329 01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:59.600 I love that. I just love that they talk and talk and talk. 1330 01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:02.479 It's that time dilation that John mentioned earlier. Yes, without a doubt. 1331 01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:09.880 Yeah, and it's fantastic. So they're falling and as they're falling, 1332 01:45:09.920 --> 01:45:12.920 deals like I respect your guts to Jojo, and he's like, but I 1333 01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:16.439 am beyond human now, I'm immortal, and I will rule this world that 1334 01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:20.560 the Joel Stars with the power that the Joe Stars have given me. But 1335 01:45:21.399 --> 01:45:24.840 JoJo's got this blade, it's like the end of the blade that he was 1336 01:45:24.960 --> 01:45:29.159 using to fight with earlier. And he stabs that into the wall and regains 1337 01:45:29.199 --> 01:45:33.199 his footing. From there, he leaves up, and as he's leaping up, 1338 01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:40.079 he takes his belt off and then wraps it around Deals on one handed 1339 01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:44.840 and announces, Deo, I'm back, which is an incredible moment. And 1340 01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:50.960 then Jojo stabs Deal in the side, which makes him go yeah, which 1341 01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:57.359 is a fantastic nice and then with a crushed arm, Deal is still Jojo 1342 01:45:57.479 --> 01:46:00.760 is still holding on and Deal promises that basically, even if they fall into 1343 01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:04.479 the fire, he will find a way out and he will come back. 1344 01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:10.560 As they're falling, Jojo basically screams to his dad to help him one last 1345 01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:13.840 time. He's doing the like Dad from beyond the grave, give me, 1346 01:46:14.079 --> 01:46:16.159 give me some good luck. And what don't you know it? It happens. 1347 01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:23.319 Jojo kicks off the wall and that positions them both to land above the 1348 01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:29.359 statue of the Joe Star Family Guardian, which is an angel, and in 1349 01:46:29.479 --> 01:46:35.800 doing that, he impales Deal through his torso and Deo realizes again that the 1350 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:43.680 more you beat Jojo, the tougher he gets that statue always there. I 1351 01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:45.680 mean, who cares, right, But like I feel like that was maybe 1352 01:46:45.680 --> 01:46:49.199 it is. I think it's like, the more you hurt Jojo, the 1353 01:46:49.239 --> 01:46:58.520 more his ancestors very specifically placed a statue will get you, yeah, to 1354 01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:02.479 an advantageous position, Joe Star. It's a very uh, you know, 1355 01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:08.520 centrally located statue too, But you feel like you would have in the vein 1356 01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:11.079 of how this show's sort of been, where they might have like shown you 1357 01:47:11.159 --> 01:47:16.479 it in in a meaningful way where his ancestors are like maybe a little to 1358 01:47:16.520 --> 01:47:24.359 the left, yeah, building the manner like so it shows it shows a 1359 01:47:24.720 --> 01:47:29.000 deal fully impelled on it, and Deal's final words are, this wasn't supposed 1360 01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:33.880 to be my life. Everybody has that happened, yeah in it and he's 1361 01:47:33.920 --> 01:47:39.640 like burns up and Jojo is thrown out of the mansion conveniently, like he's 1362 01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:43.079 thrown the exact distance from whatever the fuck they are in the mansion with the 1363 01:47:43.199 --> 01:47:47.319 thing. He's thrown out of the mansion and right next to speedwagon perfect nailed 1364 01:47:47.359 --> 01:47:54.239 it and Speedwagons like shouts that Jojo has won, thus bringing the clothes to 1365 01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:59.920 wait. The third there was a post credit for that one, Yeah, 1366 01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:04.880 yeah, to watch Lucy, do you want to reveal to jalal so, 1367 01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:11.840 Like the post credit sequence is that goes the camera pans over the rubble and 1368 01:48:11.920 --> 01:48:15.399 the eyes of Deal awaken. But he's like all he's all covered in, 1369 01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:24.039 he's like his skin is like ashy graze. Deal is not gone. Deal 1370 01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:27.840 is still very much a threat. Okay, so I have to go and 1371 01:48:27.880 --> 01:48:30.319 watch that last what is it fifteen whatever it is? Yeah, it's very 1372 01:48:30.319 --> 01:48:33.239 sure. Do they do like stingers at the end of every episode or just 1373 01:48:33.279 --> 01:48:38.039 this one now it's just for the future, They usually so with anime, 1374 01:48:38.159 --> 01:48:42.079 generally they do like a preview for the next episode, okay, and then 1375 01:48:42.159 --> 01:48:45.680 some shows have like a post credit stinger or some sort. So it's generally 1376 01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:49.520 worth skipping to the end of the ending theme to see if. In most 1377 01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:54.439 anima, Okay, I'll be sure to do that next time. But okay, 1378 01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:56.760 yeah, I mean I guess I kind of figured all part of me 1379 01:48:56.840 --> 01:49:00.279 up until just the second. Also assume that, like maybe we're just doing 1380 01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:04.359 little arcs, like little you know, the end of the book. Yeah, 1381 01:49:04.399 --> 01:49:06.720 like the comic book Brain, you know, now, who else is 1382 01:49:06.760 --> 01:49:13.640 going to come in reck JoJo's life? We've got I mean, someone Deo 1383 01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:15.119 came in, you know, I thought, as fast as he came in, 1384 01:49:15.439 --> 01:49:17.800 as fast as he would go out. I don't know. No, 1385 01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:24.479 you may see some more from Deo brand. Very just I'm not gonna lie. 1386 01:49:25.199 --> 01:49:29.720 I really like this. I really like it. It's it's it's I 1387 01:49:29.720 --> 01:49:33.319 don't love this face right now, Like you know, if I brought this 1388 01:49:33.439 --> 01:49:38.720 in and you guys were like, what the fuck is this? And I 1389 01:49:38.840 --> 01:49:41.439 know there's a certain elements of that, but yeah, I'm glad that it's 1390 01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:45.840 hitting. Yeah, yeah, you know, A part of me is also 1391 01:49:45.920 --> 01:49:49.359 like, oh, I don't know, I don't have a close personal friend 1392 01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:53.399 who would probably enjoy it, Like I know, I just love that we 1393 01:49:53.479 --> 01:49:57.039 are all in the same sort of like little club with it together, you 1394 01:49:57.079 --> 01:50:00.800 know. Yeah, so that makes me feel great deal of joy. But 1395 01:50:00.880 --> 01:50:04.359 yeah, I'm very much into this thing, and I like Lucy, I 1396 01:50:04.399 --> 01:50:08.800 had to stop myself from going to number four. It's fun. You see, 1397 01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:11.880 what did you think of it? I loved it. I'm just I 1398 01:50:11.960 --> 01:50:15.520 said the point. Now it's like, well, some of the pieces at 1399 01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:19.600 least are on the board I understand, or at least I think I understand 1400 01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:23.159 bits of the world. And now I'm just like I want to know more 1401 01:50:23.199 --> 01:50:26.279 about like what Joejoe is going to do after is you're going to rebuild. 1402 01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:31.960 I need to know more about Robert eo Speedwagon because International Man of Mystery Slash 1403 01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:41.560 the the Middler. He does have a wonka vibe. I think John, 1404 01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:45.760 I think it's fair to say that you both have. John, you correct 1405 01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:47.840 me if I'm wrong. You have a zero percent chance of guessing where this 1406 01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:53.720 is going. Like, Okay, something I really wanted to ask, especially 1407 01:50:54.039 --> 01:50:58.680 Lucy and Jeff. Where do you guys think this is going? This comic 1408 01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:05.239 has been running for like thirty years. What do you think happens? I 1409 01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:12.119 mean, you did give me a bit of a I did. I did, 1410 01:51:13.439 --> 01:51:19.079 so I have to I can't unno that. But you know, like 1411 01:51:19.399 --> 01:51:21.359 in the same reaction I had where I was like, oh, they're doing 1412 01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:26.720 vampire's cool. He was a vampire cool, you know, I knowing that 1413 01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:30.119 now, I just feel like it might just be Monster of the Week sort 1414 01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:33.600 of stuff where they just do everything and everything, uh anything and everything. 1415 01:51:33.640 --> 01:51:40.680 Rather but yeah, I look, how no one can make an educated guess 1416 01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:45.680 based off the suggest Say it's Jonathan Joe Star traveling the globe solving monster problems. 1417 01:51:47.359 --> 01:51:51.560 Yeah, I mean, you know as sure? Yeah, I mean, 1418 01:51:51.600 --> 01:51:56.239 if it's a bizarre adventure, like we gotta stay bizarre and we gotta 1419 01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:59.720 can you know, he's not gonna like open up an accounting agency, like 1420 01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:02.640 he's gonna you know, he's gonna be bizarre. He's gonna do things. 1421 01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:15.199 Yeah, he sucks up your taxes every time. But Lucy so gleaning from 1422 01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:20.560 you know, we obviously had the call about Jack the Ripper you mentioned earlier, 1423 01:52:20.640 --> 01:52:26.439 Nazis. I am feeling that like Dio wants to take over the world. 1424 01:52:26.479 --> 01:52:30.520 I feel like he maybe just has a hand in evil events and Joe 1425 01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:33.960 Joe comes along and tries to stop him. But in a way I kind 1426 01:52:33.960 --> 01:52:38.479 of see it also is like you know how Sandman does that where it's like, 1427 01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:43.960 oh, technically everything is because of the endless like dream and death and 1428 01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:47.800 stuff. I feel like they just happen to get involved in shit. But 1429 01:52:47.960 --> 01:52:54.439 also the fact that, like the theme song is about bloodlines and I and 1430 01:52:54.600 --> 01:52:59.359 that ring, the ring getting sold. I don't know, I feel like 1431 01:52:59.359 --> 01:53:03.640 there's more. I don't know if it's a Van helsingy type thing. You 1432 01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:09.119 think it's an assassin's creed Templar bloodline, Yeah, like a bloodline of like 1433 01:53:09.159 --> 01:53:14.159 you have to kill you know, once in every generation a Slayer has chosen, 1434 01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:18.239 you know, kind of thing. I don't know, go through time. 1435 01:53:18.760 --> 01:53:23.600 They'll have to go through time at some point. I feel like we'll 1436 01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:28.359 have to just do that. We'll see, We'll just see, we will 1437 01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:32.039 see, because we'll be back for another one of these episodes of Jeff Jeff's 1438 01:53:32.039 --> 01:53:38.279 Bizarre Adventure. I love that we've placed the entire like the naming of this 1439 01:53:38.319 --> 01:53:43.079 show entirely, but this is this is your first animal but it's but if 1440 01:53:43.119 --> 01:53:45.920 you're in this, you're just as much in the same spot as I am. 1441 01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.479 Like yeah, but technically, like Lucy said, this is your first 1442 01:53:47.600 --> 01:53:50.960 ever anime. You know, I'm not subject, Jeff. If you had 1443 01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:58.239 the time, I would love if you watched at some point during the recording 1444 01:53:58.239 --> 01:54:02.359 of this the first episode of Cowboy Bebop, just to see I would compares 1445 01:54:02.520 --> 01:54:08.399 to JoJo's Yeah, because I feel like if you watch Cowboy bebo Yeah and 1446 01:54:08.520 --> 01:54:15.840 JoJo's that's a real good like spectrum and then everything like you know, that 1447 01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:19.039 will give you the two extremes of kind of what anime can be. And 1448 01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:24.880 I think that's a good one. Okay as well, Yeah, yeah, 1449 01:54:24.920 --> 01:54:29.439 twenty minutes, don't get confused with the don't watch it, don't watch it. 1450 01:54:29.680 --> 01:54:30.800 No, I know, I even I don't. I am in no 1451 01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:33.680 way involved in anime whatsoever, and I know not to watch that show. 1452 01:54:35.279 --> 01:54:39.439 So that's what I love about this too, is that it's super digestible. 1453 01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:44.279 These are twenty three minute little morsels than that, because like you get if 1454 01:54:44.279 --> 01:54:47.920 you if you're skipping the opening credits all quite long. Let's let's not go 1455 01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:51.479 crazy and skip the opening. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, 1456 01:54:51.600 --> 01:54:57.119 you know some people, Yeah, No, I honestly like I love that, 1457 01:54:57.239 --> 01:55:00.640 you know. I love the how digestible everything is. Though, Yeah, 1458 01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:03.720 I'm sacked. So for next week, the homework is to watch episode 1459 01:55:03.720 --> 01:55:10.760 four or five and six Overdrive the Dark Nights and tomorrow's Courage. If you're 1460 01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:15.439 listening at home, you're encouraged to do the same and watch along, and 1461 01:55:15.479 --> 01:55:20.319 then we'll regroup for the next episode of Jeff Jeff's Bizarre Adventure and talk about 1462 01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:26.520 some of the happenings in the world of Jojo. In the meantime, make 1463 01:55:26.560 --> 01:55:30.039 sure you do the usual promotional stuff, you know, hit up the podcast 1464 01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:34.359 feeds of choice and up vote and all that kind of business, and make 1465 01:55:34.359 --> 01:55:39.800 sure that you're subscribed on giant bomb dot com. Fork over some money if 1466 01:55:39.800 --> 01:55:44.199 you can. And in the meantime, John, where can people find you 1467 01:55:44.279 --> 01:55:46.760 and is there anything that you want to push people towards. You can find 1468 01:55:46.760 --> 01:55:50.439 me pretty much just google super ipatch Wolf and there I am. And I 1469 01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:56.399 also host the Let's Fight a Bass video game podcast, which is very good 1470 01:55:56.479 --> 01:55:59.159 and I highly recommend you check it out. It's always meaty as well, 1471 01:55:59.199 --> 01:56:00.720 So if you know, you have a lot of fans of me eke video 1472 01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:04.840 game podcast here, so that's another one to add to your list. Lucy, 1473 01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:10.319 I'm Twitter, Twitch, game Spot, and I'm Lucy James Games. 1474 01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:15.520 I'm pretty much everything Jeff, and I'm at Jeff Beckler pretty much everywhere, 1475 01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:19.960 yep. And I'm at more h on Twitter and Twitter and that kind of 1476 01:56:20.000 --> 01:56:25.600 business. And uh yeah, we'll see you next week. Oh yeah. Georgooda