WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:10.160 Billy Cunning in the Great American and welcome is war his first day afternon A 2 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:14.039 the tri State they have a little bit of falling autumn weather and then the 3 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:17.679 may is a good thing. Redg baseball off today, which is also a 4 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:21.160 good thing. We're going to kind of reconor to all issues and play in 5 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:25.120 Chicago over the weekend. There's nothing better than the weekend in Chicago at Wrigular 6 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:28.039 Field when the REGs are beating the Cubs three straight. At least that's the 7 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:31.399 plan. But until then, we're continuing to be in jury watch when it 8 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:34.840 comes to Donald John Trump and whether or not the jury in New York City 9 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:39.000 is going to convict him of a numerous felonies without the defense council knowing which 10 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:42.439 felonies what he's on trial for. Plus, we have a report out of 11 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:47.200 Boston, Massachusetts, where the mayor has issued instructions to the police not to 12 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:53.000 arrest individuals. She went out to prosecute individuals on shoplifting or driving without a 13 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:56.840 license all other property offenses. So it's quite sad. But until then, 14 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:00.600 Rob Sanders, Kent County Prosecutor, welcome again to the Bill Cunning Show and 15 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.879 Rob first of all, you must have hundreds or thousands of cases that you 16 00:01:03.959 --> 00:01:08.959 prosecute every year in Kent County, and you kind of quarter the resources of 17 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:15.439 the Kent County Prosecutor's office to prioritize those defendants that should be prosecuted and others 18 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:19.799 that should not be prosecuted. Could you imagine if there was a charge in 19 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:26.159 Kenton County that's some Kentucky official a misfiled a report and booked something as a 20 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:30.439 legal fees when it might have been an extortion attempt of a porn star to 21 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:34.439 pay her off to keep her quiet. And I would think as a felony 22 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:41.120 prosecutor, paperwork mistakes on forums filed in Frankfort is not a high priority unless 23 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:44.079 you're a New York City Democrat, in which case it is going to maybe 24 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:48.159 keep the next president from running for office because so many would be angry at 25 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.599 him if he's a convicted felon. So can you tell the American people as 26 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:57.239 a line prosecutor, you spend your time in the intestines of Kenton County deciding 27 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.519 when to prosecute a felony and when not to go to felony? What is 28 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:05.400 that judgment? How do you operate it well. Willie, I think, 29 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:10.039 is the chief law enforcement officer for Kenton County. It's not my job to 30 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:15.479 influence the outcome of federal elections, especially not the presidential election. It's my 31 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:19.199 job to keep the people Kent County safe, to make the safest place in 32 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:22.759 Kentucky where you can live, work, or raise a family. It's really 33 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:27.120 not my job to try and disqualify someone from running for a national office. 34 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.400 Nor is it my job to try and incarcerate them or even just tie up 35 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:35.680 their time so they can't be out on the campaign trail looking for votes and 36 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:38.800 raising money and doing things that presidential candidates have to do to be successful in 37 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:44.759 this country. That's something that's really beyond comprehension as far as I'm concerned. 38 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:49.879 Given the limited time, manpower, and resources that are allotted to prosecutors, 39 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:53.759 not just in Kentucky but everywhere in this country, it seems to me that 40 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:59.599 the citizens of New York City would be much better served if their district attorney 41 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:04.960 was spending his time keeping crime to a minimum, locking up those dangerous individuals 42 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:09.080 that pose a threat to the public safety, and really spend less time worrying 43 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:15.240 about the classification or label or title that somebody puts on a business filing that 44 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:20.159 they did in fact file and you know, pays the taxes that were in 45 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:24.240 fact due and everything else that they're required to do. But we're squabbling over 46 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:30.919 what someone classified on expense as. And that's what this case more or less 47 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:35.719 boils down to. Technically speaking. However, when you start bringing in all 48 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:40.400 the political complications that go on in the behind the scenes motivations of the individual 49 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:46.879 making the charging decision in this case, certainly it's a lot more complicated than 50 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:49.400 that, but certainly nothing that I ever intended to do. You know, 51 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.360 Joe Biden was in Kent and kind of gave speech on the shore of the 52 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.759 Ohio River. I'm sure we could have looked at his expense reports see if 53 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:01.199 maybe he mislabeled his ice cream cone as something other than a political stunt, 54 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:05.240 because we know that every politician goes to Greaters to try and get their thirty 55 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:10.919 seconds of photo ops when they're in Cincinnati. Maybe he labeled that as something 56 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:15.360 other than a political expense, is a lunch expense or something, and maybe 57 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.160 we should indict that as a felony. But no, that's not anything we're 58 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:19.639 going to do. That's not my job. That's not the job of any 59 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:26.079 district attorney, not in this country. I downloaded the jury instructions that was 60 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:30.519 online. It's about sixty pages long, single space, and this morning Judge 61 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:35.279 Murshawan read a large section of that jury instruction. It would take a person 62 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:39.879 with juris doctor to agree with great understanding to go the ins and outs of 63 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:44.680 what they were saying, especially when the jury instruction the defense did not have 64 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:48.639 an opportunity to upon witnesses to refute the jury instruction. The jury instruction also 65 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:53.079 said you don't have to be unanimous if you find the myster mean it was 66 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:57.879 misfiling a report labeling something is a legal expense when it was an NDA that 67 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:01.920 you in order to get to a felony level violate federal election law or tax 68 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:06.839 law or New York state election laws, which is corruptly influencing an election. 69 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:12.600 And so he also said that the jurors don't have to be unanimous and determining 70 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:15.560 whether it was an FEC violation, a tax law violation, or New York 71 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:20.360 state election law violation. And almost all of the legal so called experts, 72 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:26.480 including CNN's Eliehony, who makes more sense than most, saying this is a 73 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:31.720 novel approach in criminal law when the jury does not have to find unanimously any 74 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:35.480 of those three ladders that make it to a felony. And they're saying this 75 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:40.199 is a new area of law in which jurors don't have to be unanimous to 76 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:44.920 find the defendant guilty and might send Donald Trump to prison for five years now. 77 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.240 I don't know if you've read many of the jury instructions. Another mistake, 78 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:51.920 which was critical is that Judge Merschaan did not give each juror a copy 79 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:56.279 of the jury instructions to take with them into the jury room. He had 80 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:00.480 to take laborious pains to read a large section of the jury instruction instead of 81 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:04.120 saying, ladies and gentlemen, here are the jury instructions. Everybody gets a 82 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:10.240 copy. Go deliberate. Wouldn't it be much better if the defense knew what 83 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:14.160 they were defending against, and secondly, much better if the judge would simply 84 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:18.879 give them the jury instructions. Willie, I'll tell you what I am baffled 85 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:21.639 it the way New York. I don't know if this is just in this 86 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:26.079 one Judge's courtroom or is this how the whole state does it. I have 87 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:30.000 all kinds of questions about New York courtroom procedure, but this trial has been 88 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:33.040 scary enough that I don't want to accept the foot in the state of New 89 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:36.759 York to find the answers to these questions, because Lord knows, I don't 90 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:41.920 want to be stuck facing the same kind of situation that Donald Trump's in, 91 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.800 where you have to give your closing argument and then the judge reads the jury 92 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:48.839 instructions. So I tried hundreds of cases in my career, Willy, and 93 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:55.000 in every single one, the judge reads the jury instructions. Every juror gets 94 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.959 their own copy of the injury instructions. They get to take them back into 95 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.439 the jury room with them so they can see what the elements of the offenses 96 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:04.319 are that they are voting on guilty or not guilty. But the judge gives 97 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:08.800 the instructions, and then you give your closing arguments, so you can argue. 98 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.639 In fact, that probably the most important part of a closing argument, 99 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.439 aside from convincing the jury of your side of the case, probably the most 100 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:19.920 important part of the closing argument is helping the jurors understand the jury instructions, 101 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:24.720 which, even in sometimes what appear to be the simplest of cases, can 102 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:28.959 be very, very complicated when there's lesser included offenses, there's alternate theories, 103 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:32.240 there's affirmative defenses, These things can go on. I mean some that I've 104 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.519 done have looked like small novels in terms of how many pages of jury instructions 105 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:41.399 are involved. And if this judge isn't giving them a copy of these instructions, 106 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.519 there's no way they're going to remember all these nuances when they go back 107 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:47.399 and all the was that an and? Or was that an? Ore? 108 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:51.279 Which ones the less are included of this? Which things do we have to 109 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:55.079 get unanimous? Which ones don't we have to get unanimous? Which is a 110 00:07:55.079 --> 00:08:01.040 whole other topic. I can't imagine how complicated these instructions are, nor can 111 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.680 I imagine how you cannot be unanimous about which law you think Donald Trump broke 112 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.279 in order to find him guilty. That's something that makes my head spin. 113 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:16.639 Also tells me that regardless of what he might be convicted of, if he 114 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.959 is convicted, without a doubt, this case is going to the appellate courts. 115 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.279 Not only is it going to the appellate courts on a state level. 116 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.600 But then if it makes it out of the appellate courts on the state level 117 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.720 with the conviction still intact, you'll see it go to a federal level, 118 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:37.080 because there is all kinds of federal case law on unanimity of jury verdicts when 119 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.519 it comes to criminal cases. So I have all kinds of questions about what's 120 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:46.679 going on up there, Whether this judge is just going rogue and making his 121 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.039 own law, or is this the entire state of New York that does things 122 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.600 I've never heard of in twenty five plus years as an attorney and twenty years 123 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:58.840 as prosecutor. No, what's going on there is not what goes on in 124 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:05.000 the courtroom on a daily basis in most states, certainly not in Kentucky or 125 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.440 any other state I've ever heard of before. This is something that is novel 126 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.399 at best and bizarre at worst that is probably going to take us years to 127 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:20.960 sort out, which really puts just a tailspin on this election that who knows 128 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.759 how this is going to play out. If Donald Trump is convicted, He's 129 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.519 not going to be in prison come election day. This will be appealed and 130 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:33.120 appealed and appealed, and this will probably you know, he'll probably serve out 131 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:37.960 the next term as president before we ever get a final decision on the numerous 132 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:41.200 different legal questions being posed in this case. Have you ever heard of an 133 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.279 element of a crime in which the jurors don't have to unanimously agree. That 134 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:52.720 is a key part of American Jerry Sprunes and Judge Mrshaan told U Shurry that 135 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.919 if for consider it a violation of federal election law, and for consider it 136 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.080 a tax violation, and four other jurors consider it to be a New York 137 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.320 state election law violation, and the others are rejected, that that's okay. 138 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:11.200 There's no unanimous verdict required on the critical element of the case. And even 139 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:15.639 CNN's commentators say, man, I've never heard of that before, But that's 140 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:20.399 passing is due process in New York City with New York City Democrats, which 141 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.879 is absurd. Now, Secondly, I have a memo issued by the Boston 142 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:30.360 County Prosecutor in Boston, Massachusetts. Her name is Rollin. She says to 143 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:35.120 her assistance in the Boston Police, the following crimes will not be accepted by 144 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:41.679 this office subject to prosecution, including shoplifting below one thousand dollars, larceny below 145 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:48.720 one thousand dollars, any disorderly conduct charge, receiving stolen property below one thousand 146 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.360 dollars, driving with a court order, suspended driver's license, breaking and entering 147 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.200 with property damage once in a malicious destruction of property if it's under one thousand 148 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:05.240 dollars, criminal threats, and possession of alcohol, marijuana or possession with intent 149 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:11.159 to distribute marijuana will not be prosecuted. That's Boston, Massachusetts, which is 150 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.759 similar to other democratically controlled large cities. I want to get your reaction. 151 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:24.000 Can you imagine issuing a memo to Kent County Police Covington Police that the following 152 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.360 charges will not be prosecuted by rob Sanders, suspended driver's licenses, thats orderly 153 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:33.840 conduct, shoplifting, larceny, receiving stolen property, want destruction of property, 154 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.799 threats, possession of alcohol, marijuana illegally, possession with intent to distribute None 155 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:45.440 of those are going to be prosecuted. Can you imagine? No, No, 156 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.000 Willie, not at all. Number one, it's not a prosecutor's job 157 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.519 to decide what laws they are going to in effect take off the books or 158 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.360 erase. Prosecutors ought to be enforcing the law as it is passed by the 159 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:00.919 legislature. Of course, prosecutorial discretion is a pro bred on a case by 160 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:05.080 case basis of which cases are more important than other cases, which cases are 161 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.600 more egregious than other cases. That's why we have penalty ranges. You know, 162 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.759 not every class D felony is one year in prison. Some of them 163 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:13.840 are good for five years in prison, other ones are more appropriate for one 164 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:18.519 year in prison. That's where discretion comes into play. It should not be 165 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:24.279 in taking laws off the books and telling police not to charge offenses. If 166 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.639 that prosecutor doesn't want those to be crimes, he or she should go lobby 167 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:33.440 in the legislature and tell the legislature to take those off the books. That's 168 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:37.559 why we have the second branch of government to control what laws are passed, 169 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.399 what laws are erased. That's their job. The first branch of government, 170 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.360 which is where prosecutors lie. Their job is to enforce the law as it's 171 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.320 been duly passed by the legislature. And if you look at these willis quite 172 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.639 frankly, I think, not necessarily racist in its approach, but certainly classiest 173 00:12:54.759 --> 00:13:00.279 in its approach. Because you talk about property damage being less than a thound 174 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:03.639 dollars, Well, that means if I go damage your you know, the 175 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.120 Cunningham mansion out there in Deer Park, I'm sure I could just like break 176 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.120 the doorbell and it'd be a thousand dollars worth of damage. But if you 177 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:13.159 come to the poor part of town, you could break out every window in 178 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.240 somebody's house and not cause a thousand dollars in damage because their house just doesn't 179 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:20.879 worth that much money. It's a lot easier to commit the offenses that they 180 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.799 will prosecute in the nicer parts of town, and what it does is discriminate 181 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.519 against poor people. The same with a lot of these other offenses, like 182 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.679 the drug offenses. Even nobody wants their kids going out and playing in the 183 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:35.960 yard if there's a drug dealer on the corner, and if they're not prosecuting 184 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.320 drug laws, then that's what the poor folks are going to get. You 185 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:41.360 know, the poor folks don't hang out or I'm sorry, the drug dealers 186 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:45.559 don't hang out in the Indian hills of the world. The drug dealers are 187 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.720 down in the poor neighborhoods, and those are the people that have to suffer 188 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.279 the consequences of having criminals right outside their door. So what this da has 189 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:58.960 done is make life worse for the poor folks and her jurisdiction. What she 190 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:03.159 needs to do is the laws it's passed by the legislature and ports it evenly 191 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.840 and ask cour jurors not to discriminate against citizens and her jurisdictions is because they're 192 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:11.639 poor and have these crimes go on outside their door, that it's no less 193 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:16.200 important to a poor person to have a safe place to live than it is 194 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.559 to a rich person live in the nicest neighborhood she's got. And the other 195 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:22.799 issue is Boston police. The head of the union there are demoralized. They're 196 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:28.039 saying, we cannot have the ability to say if some damage to property or 197 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.720 something is tolen, is it nine hundred dollars, is it eleven hundred dollars? 198 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.080 Who do we arrest? Who don't we arrest? And unless there's violence 199 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:39.000 against police, resisting arrest won't be prosecuted either. The police have an attitude 200 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:43.399 now in Boston in many major American cities to stand down, not a big 201 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:48.399 deal, don't chase anybody, don't go into an alley at night, stay 202 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.840 in your police car, respond to a nine to one one call, don't 203 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.879 pick up warrants during the beginning of a shift to go find people because it's 204 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.879 too dangerous. And so you take away the ability of police to be police, 205 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.600 and the judges, and after all we get the government we deserve, 206 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:07.360 Rob Sanders. And right now, in many major American cities, sadly, 207 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:13.120 including Cincinnati, there's massiveless lawlessness taking place, and cops don't feel as if 208 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.440 they're incentivized and backed up by the judges and their political leaders. And in 209 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:22.440 Cincinnati or Boston or Columbus, police are demoralized thinking, Okay, why should 210 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.960 I be a cop and go through what I got to do and put my 211 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:30.279 life at risk to arrest people when the system will not allow any prosecution below 212 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:35.879 property damage of one thousand dollars And kids that have marijuana or alcohol that used 213 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.080 to be okay, citable offense, don't do that again. Now they're not 214 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.240 even arresting anybody in juvenile court. And in Hamilton County we got Judge Kerry 215 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:48.159 Bloom and Juvenile Court who thinks a nine or two in jail of aficious juvenile 216 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:52.799 offender is worse on the offender than it is on the victim. And so 217 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.559 this movement is across the country of decriminalizing crime. Then I hear constantly that 218 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:03.360 the crime going down. No crime's going up, but the arrest are going 219 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.639 down. That's the difficulty. Well, Rob, we got d Willie, 220 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.399 and Covington does Covington. We have a minute remaining, but ken, is 221 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.240 it fair to say that Covington does not have the same view of crime as 222 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:18.879 the city of Cincinnati. Without a doubt, Willie. We have citizens in 223 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.240 Covington and beyond, all over Boon, cann and Campbell County that all support 224 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.320 our police officers. We want the law to be enforced. We don't want 225 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:30.320 the problems that we're seeing in Cincinnati. I saw video on Melissa powers office 226 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.960 Facebook page the other day of a juvenile getting jumped by about six or eight 227 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.799 other juveniles and getting beat down on the ground, punched and kicked in the 228 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:38.879 head while he's on the ground and everybody in there. I don't even think 229 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.399 all of them were caught, but the ones that were all got off with 230 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:45.240 probation. There was no jail time at all for this savage beating on this 231 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:49.080 child. We don't look upon it the same way. In Kentucky, we 232 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:53.039 want laws to be enforced. We want them to be enforced evenly, and 233 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:56.759 for all communities, rich or poor, black or white, any other color, 234 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:02.320 every race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, it doesn't matter. Everybody 235 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:04.799 wants the law enforced evenly. We want to support the men and women that 236 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:08.440 wear the badge and put their lives on the line to enforce those laws. 237 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:12.279 And it's not going to happen in a jurisdiction where whether it's the prosecutor or 238 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:17.039 the mayor or whoever it is, is telling the police that these laws should 239 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.279 not be enforced. The police aren't going to be proactive. Why should they 240 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:22.000 go put their life on the line take a risk every time they make a 241 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.920 traffic stop or approach the suspicious person on the street. Why should they take 242 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:32.839 that risk of either getting disciplined or worse, getting hurt or getting killed by 243 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:37.480 a criminal when that offense that they're going to investigate is something the prosecutor is 244 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:42.079 not going to enforce or the mayor is going to punish them for having enforced 245 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:45.960 the laws, and the police are going to slow down their activity. They're 246 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.599 not going to take unnecessary risks if they know there's no benefit to them or 247 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:53.200 the community, and the voters get the community that they are willing to accept, 248 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.759 and that can be a lawless, dangerous community. If that's the kind 249 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:02.279 of community that the voters are going to push by their ballot box, by 250 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:04.119 which people they put in office, which judges they put on the bench, 251 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:10.640 they're going to suffer the consequences of electing beneficials. Rob Sanders, every great 252 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:15.319 weekend, and may God bless you and God bless America. Rob Sanders, 253 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:17.759 thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. 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