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Using free speech to free minds.
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As the clock strikes thirteen, we
gather once more. You're an airstrip one.

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I'm Gardner Goldsmith, filling in for
David Knight on the David Knight Show.

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Welcome one and all on this twenty
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our Lord, twenty twenty three.
We've got lots to discuss Thursday. As

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Douglas Adams might have said, I
never could get the handle of Thursday's Well,

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we're gonna get a handle of it
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Thank you for joining us. Well, it's great to have you along for

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I'm Gardner Goldsmith, sitting in for David

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Yeah, they just make it worse, as Radio Birdman would say,

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or they're getting close to we'll find
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we'll also talk about Gaza and the
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and I discussed this on my program
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that could be coming well. Also, we'll also give you a follow up

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after something I discussed last night in
the program. This Gaza and the ghastly

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state of Ethics. I will give
you a follow up to a little something

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that I mentioned. They're combined here
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because I mentioned that this man Douglas
Murray, who's a British writer, British

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commentator, was on with Pierce Morgan
as the host. I think the show

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is called Uncensored over in the UK, and they had Sank Junger or Unger

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or Uger from the Young Turks,
the inaptly named, very very poorly named

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program that unfortunately reminds people of the
Armenian genocide. And I don't think I've

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ever found an opportunity to agree with
Sank Junger. And again I'm not trying

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to pick a side on the Israeli
Gaza issue, but I've always found that

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over the past few months here a
lot of the pro deep State or conservatives,

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the very pro Israel Zionist State of
Zion of Israel supporters, often will

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not discuss or are not aware of, maybe perhaps both, many major aspects

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in the history of the establishment of
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done in encroaching into Palestine and has
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there, including holding many of them
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Douglas Murray got into it with Saint
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folks were commenting on Twitter slash x
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Turks. I mean, it was
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a bit of a different opinion about
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minute video last night. I went
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night on my program we went extended
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I went through this, and I'd
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i'd like to get your thoughts on
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fair to Douglas Murray and you think
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the things that you might have heard
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talk about Gaza and the ghastly state
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as the King Charles must say,
the ghostly state of ethics, yes says,

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which one of my houses is empty
today? Oh that's all right.

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Climate change doesn't get affected by that, because of course we all know it's

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a canad pip Cheerio carry on with
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follow up as well about Deborah Burkes. In fact, I'm going to push

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that up in the program to get
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first probably half hour of the show. And I want to get your thoughts

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or as they might have said,
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for lett me be mice elf.
All right, so let's get into some

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of the major stories. What's going
to be the first one, Well,

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for that we get to turn back
to England, not necessarily to the King,

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but we can just take a couple
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off of that, and add two
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of confusion coming out of California from
the Kinks, Confused. I like this

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videos as Ray Davies plays his guitar, supposedly mouths to the song but of

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course drops the guitar. It's just
it's pretty funny. It's a great little

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video state of confusion, and boy, what a terrific band. Uh.

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Sort of very much along the lines
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loving the Kinks and wishing that the
Davies brothers would get back together again.

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They were the form runners of the
Oasis Brothers. Right. Well, here's

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the story out of California, and
Red State covers this fairly well. I

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got to discuss this last night on
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streaming Monday through Friday, starting at
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everybody. Yeah, We're brought to
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dropping bombs of truth all the time, and also brought to you by Nicki

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Haley. Who's on the board of
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making Nicki rich? That's right,
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Awesome, So here's the story out
of California from Red State. I do

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have some quibbles with this, but
I want to let Ward Clark open things

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up. Word Clock and whoever the
editor was. They tell us this California

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to find stores without gender neutral toy
sections. So stores that don't create according

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to the dictates of the politicians what
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their stores will be fined, which, as I mentioned on my program last

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night, that's called fascism. Yes, that's fascism. It is the mix

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of business, corporate interests, and
government. Sometimes government plays favorites with those

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corporations. The corporations give the feedback
loop of helping the government and institute their

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policies through the so called marketplace,
which is no longer a marketplace, or

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the government will punish those businesses,
find them so called regulate them. Isn't

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that a wonderful euphemism? If only
the mafia could use those terms. Hey,

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boss, I went over the other
day and I went down to Parcheesi's

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cheese shop. Yeah. Yeah,
and you know I told him, I

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said, I said, hey,
hey, you don't do what we're gonna

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what we want you to do.
We're gonna threaten you. Oh listen,

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Vinnie, Vinnie kid, I know
you knew here. Yeah, Boss,

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I did what you said. No, no, not quite, not quite.

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We're adopting a new way of doing
things, a new way. That's

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right. It's like that Band of
Horrors saying about the new way. Well,

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what's the new way? Boss?
The new way is something you might

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have seen in oh, I don't
know, Nazi Germany. It's national socialism,

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national socialism. Yeah, it's sort
of like this fascist combination of like,

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you know, the government just dominates
everything. In this case, we're

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going to go to Italy and talk
about Mussolini. His idea of getting the

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government involved with everything had to do
with what he called fascism. It was

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the old Roman fascis. When you
combine them, they're stronger. Of course,

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the thing combining them is the central
authority with its central plans, which

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is always really dumb. But for
us it's okay because we're the mob.

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Hey, boss, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's right, Vinny.

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So here's the deal. We're no
longer using terms like point guns that you

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threaten, you man handle, you
rob from you. No, no,

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no, we got terms that they
use in government. These are the sorts

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of things that Edward Brenets would have
written about and his book Propaganda. Oh

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you know, you sound a little
bit like Anthony Fauci, Senator Paul I

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resent your implication. What oh sorry, sorry, I just I just bounced

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away to the Senate there for a
minute when I was testifying in line through

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my teeth. But anyway, Uh
yeah, so we hear in the mafia

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are using new terms like, oh, you know, regulate, regulate.

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That's right. It's the same thing
as tell somebody to do what you want

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them to do, or you're gonna
break them down and shut them down.

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But it sounds nice. Edward Barnetes, You know, Brenees is not like

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a sauce that you get on a
sandwich or something. Brene's sauce. Well,

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it's a sauce of a sort.
It's a horse of a different color.

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Oh that's great, boss. Yeah, let's see how this regulation stuff

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is doing in California. Ah,
I hear California is doing really great.

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Boss. Yeah, for the mafia, it is all right. Here we

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go. That's your little excursion.
Here's the story from Red State. It

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seems like scarcely a day goes by
without news of more California lunacy. Now

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it's toys. No more toys,
as the burgermeister meister Berger would say,

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and if he was Rainbow, he'd
say, toys for gender neutral I command

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it. Now it's toys, writes
Red State. The government of the state

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of California, having solved every other
problem vexing the people of that state,

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is set now to find read that
punish. Good job, mister Ward,

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good job Red State. I dig
what you're going with. I do have

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some quibbles though, so called regulate
stores that is shoe carrying woke gender neutral

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toys. So what I think is
pretty darn funny here, okay, is

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that for many of the youngest kids, they're not even they can't even tell

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the difference. It's the parents,
right, They're like, yeah, the

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kids will be attracted to what they
want. They're not going to be reading

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labels. And I don't know about
you, but I could always tell the

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difference between the boys section and the
girls section. I didn't go to the

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girls section. I'm going to walk
through the girls section to get my plan

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under the apes action figures in the
boys section next to the Tanka trucks.

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But here's the story, originally from
Fox News. Red State quotes California stores

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with more than five hundred employees.
And by the way, I covered this

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when this first past. I wrote
about this for MRCTV. So when I

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saw this, the alarm bells came
to me and they said, hey,

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buddy, remember this one, and
I thought, oh, yeah, it's

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coming January first. I wrote about
it, Thank you, MRCTV team,

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and I didn't even mention everybody.
You can find my work for MRCTV at

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mrctv dot org. Check out what
the whole team does there. It's the

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Media Research Center in their thirty seventh
year of battling left wing bias in the

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pop media. California stores, writes
Fox News, with more than five hundred

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employees, will soon be fined for
not having a gender neutral toys section once

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a new state law kicks in January. First. The bill signed in twenty

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twenty one by Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom. I wonder if he did that at

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that beastrow the French laundry while he
shut down everybody and hung out with people

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instead for his birthday when he shouldn't
have according to his own dictats. You

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know, the Mafia's what's good for
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Newsom will four stores that sell childcare
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dollars fine should the store fail to
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for kids twelve years old and under. What they ought to do is like

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put a bunch of like really ugly
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toilet paper rolls, you know,
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that, just let you know,
like, ah, here's a just second,

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see if anybody buys it us our
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childcare item according to the legislation text. Literally the government is talking about what

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is a childcare item? That is
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get into the major facet for me, and I'll discuss, of course what

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might be the major facet to other
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them are very vexing, but one
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term lesson constitutionally functionally. The other
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comes to things like the Frankfurt School
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of the Fabian Socialists. A childcare
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Sacramento, the state capital of California, is any product designed or intend by

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the manufacturer to facilitate sleep, relaxation, or the feeding of children, or

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to help children with sucking or teething. Traditional boys and girls sections won't be

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outlawed. Well, isn't that magnanimous
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be banned by the government, but
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So you politicians in Sacramento, following
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Assemblyman Scott Wiener, the guy,
as I mentioned, let's go into the

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Fabian Socialist mess up the family aspect
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this bill as well as many others. He also is one of the people

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who from in San Francisco. You've
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and stuff like that. He also
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which is in that direction. Just
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maybe that direction for you. He
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a statute that allows any child who
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sort of state or federal medical care
help like Medicaid, to run away from

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the family, to leave the family
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state run agency for kids and ask
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ask to be separated from the parents, ask for his so called liberation

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from the parents. Even if the
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anything, and even before the child
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can get hooked up with a state
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opportunity for the child to start getting
body mutilation, to then address the child's

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gender identity problem, as they say, to give that child so called gender

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identity care while the parents are fighting
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Scott Wiener is like. Okay.
He also was behind a bill that they

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passed in California that makes California a
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from other states in the Union who
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they don't have to extradite a return
that runaway underage kids if they've come to

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California for reasons of gender identity.
Seriously, that is Scott Wiener. Those

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are the mindsets of the people now
telling other people who risk their money,

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risk their time, risk their opportunities
to do other things, to open up

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toy stores, whether it's big corporations
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whatever it might be, right,
and now they're telling them, not

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only we are categorizing the stuff you're
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to sell the stuff. But of
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is what government on every level does, whether it's licensing, which is massively,

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massively unethical to say, well,
you know, you can't participate in

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the peaceful activity of offering something to
someone else who can take it or leave

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it, and competing against others to
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your product or service. You can't
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Because somehow, when we get elected, we think we magically represent,

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as Rousseau might have said, the
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somehow infallible. Meanwhile, Rousseau did
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all, which was actually individuals,
you determining what you found valuable and laying

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down your money for that, so
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valuable. Other people could see it
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way the free market, and then
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there's some profit over there. I'll
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it seems like people like that.
More so, you're servicing, as Adam

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Smith said, through the invisible hand
to help yourself, you're actually servicing other

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people and their needs because they're showing
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have that in California toy stores.
They can't have that in so many aspects

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of our lives. They can't label
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want to. Meanwhile, the FDA
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information. Meanwhile, the government officials
appointed by Donald Trump and others like Joe

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Biden later on, are hiding information
and lying to us explicitly, while other

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branches of the government are working to
suppress our information and silence us using our

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own money. If you're not familiar
with my work over at MRCTV, David

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Night has mentioned this. I've mentioned
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always at least once a month,
as sailed by NewsGuard. NewsGuard a combination

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creation many years ago by people at
Microsoft and others funded we discovered thanks to

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the Twitter files exposure, funded by
money that came from something called the Portman

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Murphy Countering Foreign Propaganda Act, which
was floated around in twenty sixteen as they

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tried to gin up this fear of
Russia. It was put into the twenty

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sixteen National Defense Authorization Act because of
course everything has to get thrown in there.

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You just got to throw it in
like you know, some stew it's

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mostly poison, and Barack Obama signed
it. It gave seventy five million dollars

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per year for two years to media
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we're fighting on the farign propaganda.
Some of that money went to NewsGuard.

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I have spent hours responding to Newsguards. I won't call them entreaties, I'll

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call them missives, notes of annoyance
to tell us that they're going to downgrade

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MRCTV on their list of websites where
people might want to go to advertise and

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they have massive sway because they're carried
on many Microsoft search engines and stuff on

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what is it bing or whatever that
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Right if you're using Edge browser,
right, you have an option,

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I think if you want to use
that. NewsGuard is big and they would

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hurt MRCTV. And the only problems
with the stories for them they just didn't

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take the time to click my hyperlinks
and actually see where I cited the information

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because I don't want to embarrass myself
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Duh, it's amazing, you know. It's like, hey, if you

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want longevity in something and you want
to deal honestly with people, maybe the

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honest thing might be the first thing
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give people information and they can compare
and refer and then that will give you

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the longevity, just like any product. So these people don't want to open

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their own shops in California. They
don't want to compete. Maybe there is

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a market for this. No,
instead they're promoting this cultural Marxism. Find

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a new David all the time,
and you will be the supposed protector of

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the little guy, and there's always
going to be a new minority, a

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new victim. As I said,
anybody who tuned in to any of those

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awful, just insufferable Oprah Winfrey shows
almost every day, they were celebrating how

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they overcame their victimhood while actually promoting
the idea that they were victims and getting

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more people to think, oh,
maybe I'm a victim. It was the

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culture of victimology writ large. It
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the way that she made her money, appealing to people who say, oh,

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yes, I do am a victim, and then that leads into politics

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because the cultural Marxists take advantage of
that and they always say, just like

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Marx tried to say, he was
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Meanwhile, he was getting his money
from Engels's father's textile plant while he

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was writing saying that the Industrial Revolution
and plants like that were evil. That's

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where he was getting his money to
write the Communist Manifesto. Unbelievable. It's

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just the hypocrisy is amazing. So
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they want to do this. Now, let's go to the constitutional side of

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things just very quickly. If I'm
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try to bring up this very important
functional side of things, and this California

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story is a great leap point to
offer information about all these things, whether

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it be about licensing and the economic
moral problem. If you are in a

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state and they're licensing, let's say
they wanted to license interior designers. Seriously,

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they wanted to license interior designers.
What that does is it gives the

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interior designers, who already have businesses
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able to pay the fees and exclude
lower price competition. That then harms poorer

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people. Poorer people can't get the
service now Previously, if there weren't licensing,

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if there weren't all these regulations,
they might not be able to get

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the top notch service from the person
who's been there the longest and can charge

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the most as the greatest skills.
But they might have been able to get

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something hair stylists, barbers, whatever. And it's not up to the state

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to protect you from your own decisions. First of all, that's incredibly arrogant,

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and second of all, the arrogance
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state. This is why I am
a voluntarist I'm an agorist, or some

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might call a Christian anarchist. I
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ruler. And if you're going to
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for the canard of so called self
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when they say that you're living in
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because self governance is you governing yourself, not falling prey to the dictats

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of the tyranny. And the majority, even if it's siphoned through is so

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called representative democratic republic and a constitution, because as we've seen, the constitution

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hasn't really protected many people. It's
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I'll say it that way. And
also the politicians swear ohes to it and

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they really don't seem to care,
do they. In addition to that,

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if we look at it technically logically
abductive logic, if we look at the

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empirical and we look at the inductive
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can see that the constitution was something
I never signed and you never signed.

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And the people who signed the constitution
and adopted it, they can't do that

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for us we never gave them our
acquiescence and permission to do something on our

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behalf. And if we did,
mathematically it would be impossible because representation through

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a political system is impossible because the
police only operates through force. That is

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the difference between a government and a
private business institution. If everything were voluntary,

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it wouldn't be a state because you
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do what you want. So this
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unlicensed hairstylists anything like that, in
order to even engage in something that some

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people think, well, there might
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an ear and you know, cause
blood, something like that. Again,

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even if you think that that is
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in order for you to get that
police action to go in and inspect

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that person and tell him, now, you must do this, you must

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do that, you must do this, you must do that, rather than

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letting the market decide. And if
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follow and have to do something else, like everything else, like a talk

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show. If you don't like it, you'll go someplace else. If you

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like it, you'll promote it.
You'll say, hey, i've heard something

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I enjoy, right, I like
the personality this person, I like the

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audience that sort of thing. Well, just like that. Instead, government

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engages in not just forcing that person
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the government says to the politicians,
but it also now forces somebody else who's

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not even part of it, might
not be even interested in going to a

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barber like me, I don't have
to go to barber's to have to know,

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pay for the policing of that.
That too, is immoral. It's

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an immoral imposition done through the state, supposedly under self governance. Well,

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the person who's now being taxed to
pay for the police system to handle this

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or the inspection of these toy stores, what does he care. He should

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be left alone to decide where and
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time, his money, and his
thoughts. So this is a big deal.

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Finally, when we look at the
constitution, because this story from Red

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State exposes a very important point.
This supposedly applies to stores with more than

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five hundred employees, right, and
I remember that, So it's not just

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the single person. I remember when
I wrote that. That's right. So

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if you look at the US Constitution, there is a great lesson that can

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be drawn from this to round off
this simple story from California, which is

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not so simple. It's an impediment, it's an imposition, and it's immoral.

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We'll talk about morality in Gaza and
Douglas Murray in just a minute.

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But the Constitution has within it what
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you look at the lockdowns that were
imposed by state legislatures and governors thanks to

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Donald Trump's ridiculous, completely unconstitutional,
so called executive order of an emergency on

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March thirteenth, twenty twenty, for
something that was labeled a pandemic which was

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not a pandemic. The case rates
were heightened because of faulty PCR tests that

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they ginned up to many many cycles
and would have found it positive for anything

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that they were looking for. The
death rate was ginned up because the federal

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government, as Debor Burks admitted at
the White House in April of twenty twenty,

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they were literally paying and USA Today
confirmed this. I have a hyperlinked

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NewsGuard. It's hyperlinked in many of
my articles, so you can find it.

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USA Today said, yes, they
do incentivize to the tune in some

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cases of thirty thousand dollars per patient
if the hospital puts them on ventilators,

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and of course lists a death as
death from COVID, not just with a

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faulty PCR test. Possibly, so
any numbers that people are looking at regarding

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the death numbers in any nation state
are unreliable. No one will ever know

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how many people died from the cowl
bunka virus, right, And even the

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virus was not actually identified based on
coxpostulates. It was put together based on

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computer algorithms in a lab. That's
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with all those problems, let's just
think about this. The lockdowns telling people

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you are essential, you are not
essential. We're going to stop you from

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engaging in your business. The United
States Constitution, and again i'm an anim

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kiss, I think the constitution.
If they could get closer to the constitution,

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that would be great. Decentralization would
be great. Fewer command and control

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from central authority ideas harm fewer people
if there were mistakes, and they're easier

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to escape if you've got a decentralized
system. If they high talked about this

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00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:22.440
a great deal. The information problem
is inherent in all centralized systems. So

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if you've got dispersed information, let
the people that are closer to the information

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make the decisions with it. And
it's not even my choice to let them.

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They have the freedom and the right
to be able to do that.

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That's the point. You don't impose
your will on others. That's the simple

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moral predicate. But the contract Clause
of the Federal Constitution. And I would

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rather have the Articles of Confederation or
even perhaps a monarchy because then I would

420
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.800
know who my enemy was. But
or no government my preference. That would

421
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be my great choice, like the
Brehon laws system in Ireland. But the

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Constitution has what's called the contract clause, which prohibits any state legislation or governor

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from imposing basically any state government from
imposing from breaching the fulfillment of a pre

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agreed to private contract. So if
there is a business agreement, say you

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are supposed to deliver your pizzas someplace
for a pizza party on Saturday. You've

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got a contract, You've got employees, You've got agreements with the employees where

427
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they don't have to wear masks.
It was never part of the agreement.

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00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.480
They don't have to not come in
and work from home. That was not

429
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:36.280
part of the agreement. Those impositions
from any state would be contrary to the

430
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:45.440
contract clause just like this one is
just like this one. That's the state

431
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:52.159
of confusion, very very very sad. Now, let's talk a little bit

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about economics, because as these people
impose their impositions, getting harder and harder

433
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:07.159
and harder to do business, thanks
to of course, not just Joe Biden,

434
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:12.840
but also Donald Trump with his two
trillion dollar Cares Act in twenty twenty,

435
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:16.880
the PPP giving money to all sorts
of people. I wrote a piece

436
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:24.480
about this for MRCTV. Yes,
not just theaters and Jared Kushner, friends

437
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:30.440
of Jared Kushner, that sort of
thing, but also bands like the Smashing

438
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:38.000
Pumpkins and I believe nickelback because they
couldn't go on tour. Okay, So

439
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:45.559
the government imposes these impositions to go
stay into Canada, to go into Mexico.

440
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.199
You got to be jabbed. The
Canadians do this to come into the

441
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.559
United States. They do this for
truckers. They shut down the supply lines,

442
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:58.440
making prices skyrocket, even as they're
increasing the money supply by trillions of

443
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:02.960
dollars and decreasing the buying power of
every unit of money that is out there.

444
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.039
The inflation and the money supply is
inflation. The price increases are what

445
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:12.639
the journalists typically call inflation. That's
not the inflation. You might call it

446
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:20.679
price inflation, but that's resultant of
the inflation which causes many many errant investments

447
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:25.079
malinvestment. It causes people to take
risks that they normally wouldn't take to expect

448
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:29.480
that their business is going to be
booming in the future, so they invest

449
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.239
in new things like R and D, new employees, and then as people

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00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.079
on the consumer side start to see
their prices skyrocket, they pull back their

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00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.039
spending. And the people who now
invested in all this stuff have it sitting

452
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:45.000
fallow. So they've got to liquidate
it a as they said at the end

453
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:51.039
of The Wizard of Oz, you
liquidated or a very resourceful Those resources have

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00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.360
to be brought down in price to
a price that more closely reflects the resources.

455
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:59.599
We're going through the process now as
jobs are being cut all over the

456
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:05.320
place, including as I mentioned,
for MRCTV, the toy the second largest

457
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:12.039
toy maker in the world, Hasbro. Hasbro just cut one hundred workers.

458
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:20.199
GM got rid of half of its
buick dealerships recently fifty percent of its buick

459
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:25.920
dealerships because the buick dealerships protested being
forced to have to take evs, which

460
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.840
of course are subsidized by the federal
government. Let's talk about money right now,

461
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.639
my friends, and turn to our
friends, the fake band. You

462
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:47.880
know them, You gotta love them. Stop wasted that you knew what you

463
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:57.599
knew what I need? Oh maybe
you don't do have to come by that

464
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:19.079
out there, tell you have somebody
can't beat it? Or does the government

465
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.960
think that we are fools and clowns. Well, let's let's take the positive

466
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.840
side. Let's go the high road
and turn their political frowns upside down.

467
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.360
Everyone. Well, we got to
give you some bad news first, So

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00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:36.880
let's get to the national debt.
This comes from just the News, and

469
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:44.480
here is their report. The national
debt has jumped more than six trillion dollars

470
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:50.360
from Biden's first term compared to slightly
over three trillion during the same timeframe of

471
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.679
Trump's term. Now, some people
might think that, oh, well,

472
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:57.639
this shows us that Trump is so
much better. No, it doesn't necessarily

473
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:02.559
show you that because Trump helped put
everybody on this railroad track and set the

474
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:09.239
locomotive going. The US national debt
has increased twice as fast under President Joe

475
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:15.840
Biden as of December twenty twenty three
compared to former President Donald Trump. According

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00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:21.400
to data released by the Congressional Budget
Office the CBO, the national debt has

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00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:25.400
grown by more than six trillion during
Biden's first term, compared to slightly over

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00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:30.320
three trillion. Sorry, I should
be like doctor Evil trillion dollars during the

479
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:36.880
same timeframe during Trump's term in office. Biden took office on January twenty,

480
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:39.400
twenty twenty one. Oh and what
a day that was, wasn't it?

481
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:45.199
When the national debt stood at twenty
seven point seven trillion. Today, the

482
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.960
national total debt is close to thirty
four trillion. And by the way,

483
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:54.840
they are accruing almost a trillion dollars
in debt servicing. That's interest on the

484
00:41:54.960 --> 00:42:01.199
debt every quarter. Now, Ah, that's awesome. What keeps growing goverment

485
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:06.079
and debt? That's nothing like the
Land of the Free and that self government.

486
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:10.840
Ah, you're born into dead slavery. Hello, freedom child, Okay,

487
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.280
it's like freedom fries. Just rename
it. It makes it completely different.

488
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.920
Today, the total national debt is
close to thirty four trillion dollars.

489
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.840
Oh man, Okay. The CBO
projected that the deficit would average two trillion

490
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.800
dollars for fiscal year twenty twenty four. That's the deficit bringing the national debt

491
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:36.519
to thirty six trillion dollars on October
first, twenty twenty four, which is

492
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.320
the end of the US government's twenty
twenty four fiscal year. If it makes

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00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:45.480
it that long, I probably will. Former President Donald have got the best

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00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:50.480
debt. Donald Trump took office on
January twentieth, twenty seventeen, when the

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00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.760
national debt stood at nineteen point nine
trillion. At the end of December twenty

496
00:42:53.840 --> 00:43:00.440
nineteen, the national debt grew to
slightly over twenty three trillion. So,

497
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:04.800
just to give you from some perspective, those numbers, of course are big,

498
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.840
massive numbers. The total national debt
close to thirty four trillion dollars.

499
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:14.239
When Biden took office, it stood
at twenty seven point seven trillion. Okay,

500
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.639
I think we all pretty much get
Yeah, it's growing, it's growing

501
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.840
big time. What about the face
of this, Well, let me give

502
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.880
you one example here. As I
go into my Twitter feed. This comes

503
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:32.599
from Fox News. I saw this
last night and I thought I would offer

504
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:38.519
this to you because it gives you
a face. It gives you an idea

505
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:44.960
of what some people are facing,
the face of a person who's facing possibly

506
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.920
no longer being able to do what
she wanted to do for and has been

507
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:53.239
doing for thirty some years. So
let me give this to you from Fox

508
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:58.679
News. It's about a woman who's
a baker in Minnesota. So let's check

509
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:07.440
it out from Fox. Here's the
story. Great supposed to celebrate its thirtieth

510
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.559
anniversary this week, but instead it
is closing its doors over the rising cost

511
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:15.320
of doing business, and the owner
is now pleading for donations to keep her

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00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:20.480
bakery afloat. Tammy Cabrera is the
owner of Muddy Paws Cheesecake and she joins

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00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.639
me, Now, Tammy, I'm
sorry this has happening to you. What

514
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:29.320
was the final straw for you?
Well, good morning. And with the

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00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:34.440
combination of the last two years of
the ingredient prices rising and supplies like boxes,

516
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:38.800
deliveries, things like that, and
that combined with debt coming into the

517
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:43.519
last two years, it came to
a point where I just couldn't straddle both

518
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:47.000
the debt and the high ingredient prices. So those of us in the bakery

519
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.880
world, we work on really small
margins as it is, and then when

520
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:57.239
you add prices that raise that rise
really quickly or greatly, it's hard to

521
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:00.840
Uh, it's hard to do business. Let's look at some numb prices for

522
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:05.480
key baking ingredients like eggs, milk, sugar, flour, butter have all

523
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:10.360
increased at least fifteen percent since December
of twenty twenty. In your thirty years

524
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:15.400
in business, Tammy, have you
ever seen price hikes like this on your

525
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:23.800
ingredients? I have not. They're
well, let's just put my face on

526
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:28.880
there, rather than there are two
to five times higher and what they've ever

527
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:34.400
been seen price hikes like this on
your ingredients? I have not. They're

528
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.280
asked them if they're two to five
times higher than what they've ever been for

529
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.800
us, And the simple answer might
be to raise your prices. But you

530
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:45.199
can only raise your prices so much
for you lose customers or you're not competitive,

531
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.480
So you get stuck in that middle
part. And when you have debt

532
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:53.719
like we do, going into that, we just can't move forward without hell

533
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.400
yeah. I mean, how much
of that increase to your point can you

534
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.239
ultimately pass on to the customers?
Is it five percent? Is a ten

535
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.119
percent? Like what number can you
do without driving those customers away? Tammy?

536
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:12.559
Yeah? I would say like five
percent is probably the greatest I can

537
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.599
go. Our customers are also our
friends. Like when you're in business for

538
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.159
thirty years, you're part of people's
weddings and birthdays and stories and you get

539
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.000
to know them, and they come
in and they come in every celebration and

540
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:27.880
we get to know them. So
I want to be walking that fine line

541
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.119
of making it where they can still
get cheesecake, but then also that we

542
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.360
can stay in business. And you
are just one of many small businesses struggling.

543
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:39.559
Does it feel like the system just
doesn't support small businesses right now?

544
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:45.320
And if so, why, Like
who do you blame? Yeah? I

545
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:51.199
believe it's my not just bakeries or
food providers, but other small businesses are

546
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:55.800
facing high prices in all different ways. I don't know exactly where the blame

547
00:46:55.920 --> 00:47:00.840
falls, but I do feel like
we fall through the cracks and in receiving

548
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:06.719
help, you know, And it'd
be nice if if cities would help in

549
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:12.320
lots of ways, like maybe advertising
and and I don't I'm not really sure

550
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.679
if all the ways they can help
it. I do feel like there's there's

551
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:19.480
room for that. So there's unfortunately
a bit of a problem. See,

552
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:24.000
that's the thing. As as Harry
Brown used to say, government is good

553
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:28.519
at doing two things. I think
it's three. You said, breaking your

554
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.159
legs and then providing crutches for you
and saying, see, if it weren't

555
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.440
for me, you wouldn't be able
to walk around. That's really three things.

556
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:43.719
And I think there's another one,
which is expecting you to be grateful.

557
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.679
So she's she's, well, can't
the government help? No, No,

558
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.400
that's that's not that's not the right
idea because in trying to help this

559
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:59.079
woman, what would the government be
doing. They'd be using money from other

560
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:05.239
people, right, future generations probably
if there's debt. So what she's doing

561
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.960
here is saying I'm being harmed by
government. Then they're saying, well,

562
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.159
couldn't there be an answer? The
answer is get government out of it.

563
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:23.760
Right. Let's take an opportunity to
talk a little bit about the minimum wage.

564
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:29.719
There's a very interesting story from Fast
Company that shows us just how much

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00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:37.000
people seem to love fascism by dictating
how much someone's work is worth to a

566
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:42.079
consumer. And there's a lesson in
this for economics that is very important.

567
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:47.599
A lot of people think that the
employer is the boss, the consumer is

568
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:52.679
the boss. The consumer actually is
the employer. The consumer is the one

569
00:48:52.719 --> 00:49:00.199
who employs the typically seen, traditionally
seen employer and that employer's employee staff.

570
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:06.760
And we're all free to decide.
We should be what we want to buy,

571
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.800
what we want don't want to buy. If we don't want to help

572
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:13.559
this woman with her advertising, we
shouldn't be forced to do so. That

573
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:19.760
just compiles more immorality on the already
larger problem of getting things to her.

574
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.760
The supply chain, as I mentioned, becoming more expensive. Minimum wage increases

575
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:30.239
for twenty twenty four is this in
your state, my friends? Starting January

576
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.760
first? Some workers in twenty two
states will see a raise next week on

577
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:40.719
January first, I see. And
then what will happen? Are their jobs

578
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:46.239
really worth it? What will the
consumer do? As she says, there

579
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:52.920
are certain things that the consumers just
won't buy. They'll either find alternatives or

580
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:59.760
they just will do without. In
total, an estimated nine point nine million

581
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:06.639
work will see additional wages thanks to
the increased rate, equating to six point

582
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:12.960
ninety five billion dollars in wages,
according to an analysis from the Economic Policy

583
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:17.239
Institute. Now, some people would
say, oh, that's great, people

584
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:22.920
making six point ninety five billion dollars
more, right, But I'm sure you

585
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:27.400
know, and you could tell this
to a class sometime and get up in

586
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:32.360
front of the class and teach that's
six point ninety five billion dollars that is

587
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:38.679
being redirected from other options. As
Frederick Bastia said, it is the broken

588
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:43.920
window fallacy what is seen and what
has not seen. Opportunity cost the term

589
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:49.599
in economics, of course, where
you're now having an opportunity to spend your

590
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.280
money that you could have saved by
buying something for less on something else.

591
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:58.639
You can't spend it on something else. You can't employ that other person now.

592
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.920
And if it's going to go up, why go up by this much?

593
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:06.360
Why not go up even more?
Why not make it sixty billion more

594
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.119
in wages? Why won't that be
helpful? Isn't that going to be better?

595
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:16.159
Perhaps it's because it makes labor too
expensive. That's a major factor in

596
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:23.519
the production process. All your factors
of manufacturing have to be considered, which

597
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:29.800
is one of the reasons why just
like ancient cave men used to use tools

598
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.280
without even designing them, but just
sort of figuring out that a lever might

599
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.119
help one guy push something or lever
it away, or an inclined prane.

600
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:44.039
Incline plane would let one guy lift
something up that used to take two guys,

601
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:47.800
because now it's covering more distance.
Rather than going perpendicularly up, you're

602
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:53.239
going at an angle, so there's
more distance, but a smaller unit of

603
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:59.920
smaller units of force inside each measure
of distance, so it's easier for one

604
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:01.840
and do it. You've now freed
up somebody. Some people would say,

605
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.400
oh, that means that the second
guy is unemployed. The second guy is

606
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:08.519
free to be more productive. That's
the point. We don't want to work

607
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:12.679
harder for what we want to get. We want to work less for what

608
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:19.519
we want to get. And that's
something that even ancient people did. As

609
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.320
I said, they didn't burden themselves
by having pregnant women go on the hunt.

610
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They had division of labor. Even
in caveman days, old guys weren't

611
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.599
out there on the hunt. They
were back in the caves skinning, and

612
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.159
as they did what they did best, they had division of labor they could

613
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:38.920
then do early bartering. Bartering becomes
difficult when you have third parties, fourth

614
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.400
parties and so on. You have
to keep going around trying to figure out

615
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:45.360
who wants what and who might take
what, so you have to go to

616
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:51.320
extra parties. So people often find
something that is commonly valued by many people.

617
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:52.480
They start to recognize, well,
you know what, most people like

618
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:55.639
this, and they will trade to
get stores of that and then use that

619
00:52:55.719 --> 00:53:00.880
as their unit of currency, which
is the creation of money. It's not

620
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:06.000
dictated to us by kings. Right. So here we've got the idea that

621
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:09.800
first the government or the government granted
monopoly, can issue the money. And

622
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:15.280
of course in order to let the
government keep playing favorites with people, to

623
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:21.800
pander to them, like giving money
to Solindra and Protera, the EV battery

624
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:25.159
manufacturer that was so loved by Jennifer
grant Holm when she was governor of Michigan.

625
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:31.360
All those pandering things, airports,
highway funds, school funds, medicare,

626
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:36.480
medicaid funds, whatever interest group it
might be, right, or even

627
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:42.519
the funds to police toy stores now
in California, those funds have got to

628
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:46.840
be generated somehow, and people will
resist if their tax be on a certain

629
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:52.280
point. So states engage in borrowing. They float bonds, and someone's got

630
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:58.079
to buy them. Well, that
typically is the Federal Reserve or branches of

631
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:02.440
the government themselves. Strangely enough,
they'll do that. So the Federal Reserve

632
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:08.320
creates new money and buys the bonds. When those bonds have to be paid

633
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:13.800
off, the Feds have to issue
new bonds to pay off the old bonds,

634
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and the Fed will buy the new
bonds. So it's a giant Ponzi

635
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:21.239
scheme. It's a giant shell game, you might say, and it all

636
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:24.679
is part of doing this sort of
thing. In this case, we see

637
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:31.000
the fascism mandating that the businesses extract
six point nine to five billion dollars from

638
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:36.039
consumers. If consumers are willing to
pay it, maybe they won't. And

639
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:40.159
it's just a terrible thing that's being
done to so many potential employees because people

640
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:45.239
on the low end won't have skills
that will match what the consumers are willing

641
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.639
to pay, so they'll either lose
their jobs or they'll never be hired.

642
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:54.440
Those opportunities now are lost. As
Frederick Bastias said in his Broken Window Fallacy

643
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:59.800
essay, the parable of the broken
window, when a politician was saying,

644
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:04.800
well, look that broken window,
that's actually a benefit. That storm broke

645
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.079
that window. But that'll give work
to the glazier, Isn't that fantastic?

646
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:14.599
Basia said, All you're doing is
redirecting the flow of that usable capital from

647
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.280
where the person who earned it might
have wanted to spend it to better his

648
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:21.400
life. Now he's going to spend
it just to repair the window, just

649
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:24.679
to remain where he was before.
He's not progressing, he's not increasing his

650
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:31.920
living standard, he's just maintaining.
And you're losing sight of the person who

651
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:36.840
could have received that in that new
business. That's what government does. It

652
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:40.800
is by its nature breaking your windows, and that's axiomatic. You can't escape

653
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:45.400
that. And so these decisions should
be made based on productivity and whether the

654
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:53.079
employees are providing something to consumers.
And they always demonize the employer. Should

655
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:58.360
should the consumer be demonized? Should
people be going out and protesting and saying

656
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:01.480
we want the consumer um to pay
more? How dare you be money grubbing

657
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:05.800
consumers? Trying to save well,
that's all the employers trying to do is

658
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:08.519
trying to provide the best product of
people. And if he can't provide a

659
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:14.039
good wage to the employees, there'll
be another business that'll crop up, especially

660
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:20.559
if consumers have extra money left over
to spend on another business. Let's see

661
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:25.000
what's happening in another country right now
as we look at economics a little bit

662
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:30.239
more. Let's see what happens when
you get central banks, whether it's a

663
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.920
central government issuing the money like the
Roman government. They used to call the

664
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:39.239
coins in shaved silver off the coins, reissue new, reissue the old coins,

665
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:43.400
claiming they were worth just as much, and then use the money that

666
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.960
they shaved off to help pay their
debts. As they had their giant hegemonic

667
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:52.920
empire expanded all the way up into
the United Kingdom. So let's talk about

668
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:58.239
I guess they never made it to
Wales. They got repelled by the Welsh

669
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.800
barbarians. Very interesting, it's very
good to Edgar Rice Burrows novel I Am

670
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:07.159
a Barbarian talking about being from that
area and going down and fighting in Rome.

671
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:13.519
But let's talk about the extension of
the Roman Empire a little bit right

672
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:19.320
now, central banking and where they
might be going in a nation state just

673
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:59.719
north of here where I am in
New Hampshire. What's there? How about

674
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:06.320
that Declaration of Rights and Freedoms in
Canada. Yeah, justin Trudeau really respected

675
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:09.880
that you engaged in his emergency before
they even voted on it. And by

676
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:15.719
the way, there's one last vestige
of the British government that's supposed to supposed

677
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.239
to have a final say as to
whether or not they can engage in an

678
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:25.079
emergency and even emergency orders under Trudeau. Even then, the emergency orders that

679
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:30.480
they passed after their Charter of Rights
and Freedoms in Canada, it contradicts with

680
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:35.280
the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
For example, in Canada, you're supposed

681
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.840
to, according to their Charter of
Rights and Freedoms that was revised in the

682
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:44.760
eighties, you're supposed to be able
to travel from province to province unmolested by

683
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:50.360
the government. Guess what Trudeau and
some of the provincial governors did. Yeah,

684
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:55.280
that's right. And central troops just
like I mentioned yesterday on the David

685
00:58:55.360 --> 00:59:00.360
Night Show and I've mentioned on my
show, in the US Constitution, Article

686
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:04.880
four, Section four allows for the
militia to be called up by the federal

687
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:09.480
government if a state legislature or a
governor has asked for the militia to come

688
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:16.480
in to help preserve their so called
constitutional government from invasion or violence. And

689
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:21.000
Greg Abbott has done that, and
now the governor of Arizona, a Democrat,

690
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:24.440
has also done that, and Biden's
not responding. In Canada, the

691
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:30.760
provincial governors are supposed to be the
ones who they have to ask for the

692
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:37.559
federal soldiers military to come in before
those soldiers in military can come in.

693
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:43.119
So it's quite interesting. It's analogous
to the United States Constitution. Let's talk

694
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:50.039
about what's going on in Canada.
As politicians in Canada creep closer to universal

695
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:55.679
basic income and they get closer to
CBDC. Here's professor Pete saint Oje.

696
00:59:55.840 --> 01:00:02.159
Pete Saint Ange has done excellent work
and he's been an advisor for the Heritage

697
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:07.760
Foundation of all things, and he's
probably one of their strongest free real free

698
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:12.559
market type people at Heritage. Heritage
isn't bad, but I much prefer the

699
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:19.199
mesas institute. Heritage is a much
more sort of almost rhinos sometimes now used

700
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.119
to be a little bit more openly
towards freedom. But Pete Saint one great

701
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:27.599
on his economics, and he's done
a wonderful job on Twitter slash x expanding

702
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:34.679
his profile. Even has an advertiser. As he talks about where Canada is

703
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:39.719
going, they're creeping. It's the
Canadian creep towards CBDC and universal basic income.

704
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:44.480
Let's see what he has to say. Universal basic income is coming to

705
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:49.440
Canada. Will the US be next? I've been warning of a UBI universal

706
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:52.920
basic income for a while now,
since that is where we are in the

707
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:57.719
Fall of Rome sequence. Recently,
Canada's left wing liberals proposed just such a

708
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:02.400
scheme, dub THEE quote guarante key
libable basic income. Lest one think it's

709
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:07.000
just the liberals who've gone mad.
Canada's Conservative Party deputy leader then spoke warmly

710
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:12.519
of it, saying Conservatives should quote
own it, so in all likelihood it's

711
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.320
coming. First off, what is
a UBI. The idea is to give

712
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:20.400
everybody just enough to get by,
whether or not they work. A typical

713
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:23.679
number might be one thousand dollars per
month. Supporters claim people will still work,

714
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:28.639
which is hilarious. More on that
moment, and many Conservatives such as

715
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:32.159
the Deputy Leader, have been suckered
with promises that it will replace the existing

716
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:37.320
welfare state, which of course is
a lie. New welfare schemes are often

717
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:42.320
sold that way, including the EITC
here in the US, which was sold

718
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.119
as a negative income tax that would
replace welfare as we know it, but

719
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:49.719
of course that never happened. The
extra chillions just went on top. Because

720
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.800
it turns out that handing free money
is like salting a soup. It's easy

721
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:57.760
to add, it's very very hard
to take away. Beyond the bait and

722
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:02.400
switch. Why is a UBI soldad
Probably because the cost is raid the treasury

723
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:07.800
level, so perhaps three trillion dollars
per year in the US, but mostly

724
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:14.480
because it would radically expand our growing
army of permanently unemployed count surfing parasites who

725
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:17.400
do little work beyond voting for more
welfare. To see why, I consider

726
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:23.000
two similar phenomena today, unemployment,
benefits and pensions. Two years ago,

727
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:28.519
the New York Times put out a
major time use survey, finding that while

728
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:32.400
full time workers spend five hours a
day at work, unemployed people on benefits

729
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:37.320
spend just thirty minutes a day looking
for work. So how do they spend

730
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:40.159
the other four and a half hours
watching TV, napping, surfing the internet,

731
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:44.880
playing games, and hanging out with
their girlfriend. So that's a ninety

732
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:50.159
percent drop in work. We've got
similar numbers from retirement. Once Americans hit

733
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:54.199
that magic sixty five line, the
Bureau of Labor Statistics tallied up the number

734
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:59.599
of seniors working. That came out
to eight percent working full time, seven

735
01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:04.679
percent working part time, which compares
to sixty three percent of the general population.

736
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:08.280
So in that case, it's an
eighty percent drop. Beyond the extortionate

737
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:13.760
taxes on the few who still would
work, the main victims would be the

738
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:17.320
young will be bribed out of entry
level jobs, ushered into a life of

739
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:22.079
quasi poverty, doing nothing, having
nothing, and complaining about it on TikTok.

740
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:27.559
So What's next? Brought to you
by unchained vote buying has been popular

741
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.800
since at least the Roman Empire,
who put the bread in bread and circuses,

742
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:36.039
and it's driven the country to ruin
since at least the Roman Empire.

743
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:40.800
But the political calculus is irresistible,
all those millions of juicy votes. The

744
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:45.719
COVID was at the test case in
Canada and in many other countries and the

745
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:49.639
next recession, you can be sure
they will push it hard here in America.

746
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:53.360
As for long suffering Canadians, it
looks like it will get worse before

747
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:58.519
it gets better. Okay, we'll
be watching, thank you, Pete Saint

748
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:01.639
Are. And so the Twitter verse
had some pretty good comments here. Just

749
01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:08.480
want to mention they do note that
Canada is not implementing a universal basic income

750
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:12.440
yet, and they just point this
out. This isn't really contradictory to what

751
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:16.159
Peter sat Hans just said. One
senator and one MP have bills that instruct

752
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:20.400
the Finance Minister to develop a framework
report on UBI. That is correct.

753
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:26.880
Neither bill mentions a specific dollar amount
nor directly implements UBI, but they are

754
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.320
getting closer. And it's extremely important
to keep it in mind, of course,

755
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:35.559
because Canada is such a fantastic nation
state. The government there is so

756
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:41.800
awesome that. Let's not forget.
They celebrated a Waffen SS trooper. All

757
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:45.920
right, that's great. That's just
awesome stuff, isn't it. Oh and

758
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:53.360
they did that while also, yeah, that's right in the house they had

759
01:04:56.079 --> 01:05:01.119
vlaut of the little mere Zelinski there
is right there hanging out because you know,

760
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:11.119
the Nazis of the Azov Battalion and
the Slovada Party, like ole Tiani

761
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:17.559
Bach, with whom John McCain and
Lindsey Graham met. Joe Biden. There

762
01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:25.079
were pictures of him shaking hands with
Olechni Bac. He was mentioned in that

763
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:33.760
conversation between Jeffrey piet and Victoria Neulan
in that f the EU that infamous twenty

764
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:39.000
fourteen f the EU recording that was
gotten from their cell phones as they were

765
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:44.679
putting together the government that the United
States and NATO and the Atlantic Council wanted

766
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:48.280
put in after the United States was
involved with the overthrow of the Ukrainian government

767
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:53.639
in twenty thirteen in the Minon coup. Isn't that great? That's what a

768
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:59.119
what a just cheery all away.
You can't go wrong, boy, you

769
01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:01.199
want some fun, just go up
to Canada. That will remind you of

770
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:04.320
the good old days. And yes, a lot of people don't know that

771
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:09.880
Canada is still actually part of the
British Empire. That's why in order to

772
01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:13.800
institute the emergency thing they have to
go with I can't remember what it's called,

773
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:17.960
something like the Royalty in Council or
something like that, or the King

774
01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:25.199
or the Queen in Council and it's
a representative from the British British government who

775
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:30.440
is part of the Canadian government and
they have to get final approval from this

776
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:33.119
person. It's really weird. But
even then, even if they get the

777
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:38.760
final approval to go with emergencies,
which justin Trudeau didn't even wait. He

778
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.199
just sent those horses out to trample
people like you saw from Rebel News,

779
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:47.000
you know, trampling a seventy six
year old Native Native Indian Canadian woman.

780
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:53.199
Yeah, that sort of thing,
Trampa pummeling, hitting one of the Rebel

781
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:58.000
News reporters and you can see the
welt on her leg later. He just

782
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:00.880
went and did it. He didn't
even wait for for the Canadian Parliament to

783
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:03.679
approve it. Maybe that was because
they were too busy, you know,

784
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:10.119
thinking about making their plans to bring
in Vladimir Zelenski and a Nazi. You

785
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:13.440
know, that's nont know, you
know, I'm just thinking about that.

786
01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:15.480
But hey, you know, we
have to remember he was just following orders.

787
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:20.039
Right. Well, let's keep that
in mind as we turn right now

788
01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:27.800
to a follow up to something that
we got to discuss yesterday with James Beauvard,

789
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:31.760
and I'll mention again just real quick
if you get the opportunity. By

790
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:35.559
the way, oh, thank you
everyone for your really nice comments about the

791
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:41.320
conversation with James Bouvard on yesterday's David
Night Show. I'm Gardner Goldsmith filling in

792
01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:45.079
for David, and yesterday I had
my friend, a man that used to

793
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.360
be just one of my heroes.
Now he's one of my friends. Over

794
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:50.559
the past, you know, twenty
years or so, I've got to know

795
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:56.679
James Bouvard, a great writer for
freedom. His new book is Last Rights,

796
01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:59.920
sort of the follow up to Lost
Rights that was published about ten years

797
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.840
go. As you looked at the
results of the Patriot Act, the growth

798
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:09.159
of the FBI, things like so
called civil asset forfeiture, the war on

799
01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:14.440
drugs, which is incredibly immoral and
unconstitutional. I've got a lot of bookmarks

800
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:16.039
in here. I got to ask
them a lot of good questions, I

801
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:20.239
thought, hopefully, and thanks for
your responses. You know. I wanted

802
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:25.319
to try to pick sections that I
thought people might say, oh wow,

803
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:28.960
you know that's really and there's even
more there, but you're limited for time.

804
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.000
So I thought we did a pretty
good job, and I hope you'll

805
01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:36.079
get that. It's published by the
Libertarian Institute, and they've also just published

806
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:41.760
a new book by Tom Woods and
it's called Diary of a Psychosis and it's

807
01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:45.159
of course about the lockdown mentality,
the jab mentality and all that stuff.

808
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:49.720
And so now I want to turn
to our friend Glenn Jacobs, because James

809
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:56.039
and I both discussed what Glenn posted
on Twitter slash x yesterday. Glenn,

810
01:08:56.079 --> 01:09:00.399
of course used to live up in
New Hampshire, former pro wrestler as the

811
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.000
character Kane, has been in this
house numerous times and had to stoop through

812
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:08.880
the doorway because he's so huge.
And I remember one time we walked down

813
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:12.960
to get pizza down at this little
store down in our town and he just

814
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:15.600
he's so huge. He can't escape
his own physicality. It's not just that

815
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:19.760
he's a celebrity, but it's that, you know, his body is so

816
01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:25.119
big. Even if he tried to
hide his identity, people would be looking

817
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:29.439
at him. You know, it
must be a weird existence. It's very

818
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:30.439
strange. I guess. I guess
you get used to it. You don't

819
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:35.039
know anything different after a while,
but very odd. It's different. But

820
01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:41.279
he posted this and I'll read it
to you in case you're listening, he

821
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:47.760
says Burks. Deborah Burks came to
Knoxville in September of twenty twenty. In

822
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:53.199
a private meeting, she told us
that bars and restaurants should be closed.

823
01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:58.439
She admitted the data didn't support it, but said it was necessary to send

824
01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:03.000
a message about the seriousness of the
virus. That's marketing, not science.

825
01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:08.920
And of course, up in Canada
the restricted travel between the provinces. But

826
01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:13.439
I did not discuss, and James
and I did not discuss yesterday on the

827
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:21.239
program. The post that inspired Glenn
to post that information about that private meeting

828
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:27.800
or closed door government official meeting,
because Glenn is now the mayor of Knox

829
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:33.880
County in Tennessee. This came from
Kevin Bass. Kevin Bass is an outspoken

830
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:40.960
guy whose motto is lived not by
lies, the sultsanitsan line. He's been

831
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:45.319
on Tucker Carlson's show, He's been
published in Newsweek, and he's been speaking

832
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:48.199
up about Deborah Burks and what is
in her book. Now, we've heard

833
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:53.720
about these things before, so I
just want to give you another little echo,

834
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:59.039
little reminder to carry this information with
us and hopefully people won't forget this

835
01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:02.600
stuff. As Tom Woods publishes his
book, time goes by, just like

836
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:06.439
nine to eleven, things start to
recede in the past. The wrongdoers.

837
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:11.000
Should they get away with this sort
of stuff? How do we call them

838
01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:15.680
to task? How do we keep
the fire going? Well? At least

839
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.960
we can talk about it right,
At least we can keep telling the truth.

840
01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:24.199
Do not live but live not by
lies? Well, Kevin Bass,

841
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:29.800
and hats off to Kevin, says
Deborah Burks from her memoir, explaining how

842
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:35.000
quote two weeks to Flatten the Curve
was just marketing for harsh, months long

843
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:43.520
lockdowns that she was already planning.
Quote on Monday and Tuesday, March ninth

844
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:48.840
and tenth, twenty twenty, we
worked simultaneously to develop the Flatten the Curve

845
01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:54.760
guidance I hoped to present to the
Vice President at week's end. Let's just

846
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:59.319
pause there and mention that that was
the exact wrong thing to do, precisely

847
01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:02.840
wrong. And it runs even if
it were, even if it had been

848
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:12.640
right, it runs counter to freedom
on two levels. First, the areas

849
01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:15.319
where you run into conflict, where
people start to argue about what the health

850
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:23.399
policy policy should be are public tax
funded areas. They combine everybody and it

851
01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:29.079
causes what's called the tragedy of the
commons, where everyone has different or slightly

852
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:31.880
different opinions. Maybe some people might
agree, but most people will disagree about

853
01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:38.000
exactly how that government tax funded resource
is going to be utilized or should be

854
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:43.359
utilized. Right, you can't reveal
your preferences through the market because you're forced

855
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:48.039
to pay for it, So everybody
it causes dissension and argumentation. That to

856
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:54.159
me is not unity. That's being
forced together in a corral. That's like

857
01:12:54.199 --> 01:13:00.640
putting hungry rats together in a box
and seeing what happens. That's the state.

858
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:03.880
They put you in the box.
They wanted to put everybody in their

859
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:11.119
homes. As Jay Batikaria, who
wrote the introduction the forward to Tom Woods's

860
01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:15.640
new book, Diary of a Psychosis, also published by the Libertarian Institute,

861
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:18.520
my friend Sheldon Richmond one of the
people who started Scott Horton on the Board.

862
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:27.760
He also helped start it. The
idea of shutting things down and locking

863
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:32.119
people down, putting them in their
homes. The people like Jay Batikaria and

864
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:38.000
the Great Barrington Signers Great Barrington Declaration
Signers said no that's the wrong way to

865
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:45.000
do it. You don't rely on
unreliable jabs to get endemic status some sort

866
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:48.199
of what you think is heard immunity. You're not going to get heard immunity

867
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:55.760
through so called vaccinations jabs because first, there's a time factor on First,

868
01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:59.760
there's a question on how effective they
are, and then if you are giving

869
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:02.319
peace people a false notion of security, they're now out there and could be

870
01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:08.159
contagious. What did we hear?
We heard, Well, this is amazing.

871
01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:12.239
For the first time, we're actually
finding that in people's noses they have

872
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:16.680
just as much of the viral material
after they've been jabbed. Yeah, that's

873
01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:23.399
because they weren't working, and we're
finding for the first time asymptomatic spread.

874
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:27.159
Oh you mean maybe people are getting
symptoms after they got jabbed because the jabs

875
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:30.479
aren't working, so they're getting sick. Maybe there's also a problem with the

876
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:36.000
jabs themselves. Maybe that's actually the
bigger problem long term, and if you

877
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:41.520
actually just allowed people to deal with
what you say is this incredibly deadly virus

878
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:47.000
which had a ninety four point six
percent survival rate across all age quintiles combined

879
01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:55.640
and a near zero rate for people
under eighteen. Maybe if you had just

880
01:14:55.720 --> 01:15:00.680
allowed, as the people at the
Great Barrington Declaration had signed, and the

881
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:04.399
healthy people. Maybe if you had
just just said I'm not going to mess

882
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:08.880
with people not even allowed. Maybe
if you had just gotten out of it

883
01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:15.680
and let people decide for themselves,
suggested that healthy people go out get their

884
01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:20.840
natural immunity by acquiring the virus and
building up their long term cells for viral

885
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:29.399
intervention, their T cells, then
maybe you could then see the elderly and

886
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:33.239
more frail people who were at home
come out, and you would have heard

887
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:40.680
immunity and a lower chance of those
frail people contracting the virus. Maybe that

888
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:45.399
would be it. But you didn't
do it that way. You said we've

889
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.399
got to flatten the curve. Beforehand, you said the hospitals were going to

890
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:55.640
be overrun. You lied and told
people the hospitals were overrun when people were

891
01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:59.920
going out with cameras and finding no, they weren't. When hospital orderlies,

892
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:06.720
nurses, and doctors were doing flash
dances and line dances, flashbob routines that

893
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.920
clearly had to have been choreographed,
where they get the time I thought they

894
01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:15.399
were dealing with all these dying patients, when in fact, if you look

895
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:21.319
at and compare the flu deaths to
the so called COVID deaths, it's almost

896
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:28.399
as if COVID was a label that
they put on the seasonal flu. The

897
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:31.640
other problem with the vaccines is not
just whether or not they're reliable, but

898
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:38.479
it's the timeframe in which people get
the vaccines and how long the vaccines work.

899
01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:42.239
You have two temporal factors there.
One is how long will they work

900
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.800
to go backwards? We don't know. And of course with these we saw

901
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:50.920
week after week they kept saying,
well, you know, it turns out,

902
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:59.439
as the former head of the CDC
Wolenski, told us, well yeah,

903
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:01.640
now we can't really say that they're
reliable in any way that they fight

904
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:06.680
anything. Of course not. And
then there's the time factor of when are

905
01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:14.279
people getting these shots? Right,
So some people might get the shots and

906
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:18.359
then later are they now still immune? How about people who got it six

907
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:23.920
months later? Should they be the
only ones allowed out in the future once

908
01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:30.039
their immunity wears off? And even
now the federal government, as Russell brand

909
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:32.119
Is mentioned on his show and I
mentioned it on my show in Liberty Conspiracy,

910
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:36.560
they're putting out PSAs telling people that
natural immunity doesn't last. That is

911
01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:42.079
the thing that lasts. That's the
point. So we'll go back to Deborah

912
01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:46.680
Burks and her lies, literally admitting
in her memoir on Monday and Tuesday,

913
01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:51.159
March ninth and tenth of twenty twenty, we worked simultaneously to develop the Flatten

914
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:56.640
the curve guidance I hope to present
to the Vice President at week's end,

915
01:17:56.840 --> 01:18:00.760
which was the exact wrong thing to
do. Getting buy in on the simple

916
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:06.840
mitigation measures every American could take was
just the first step leading to longer and

917
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:15.159
more aggressive interventions. We had to
make these palatable to the administration by avoiding

918
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:20.840
the obvious appearance of a full Italian
lockdown. No sooner had we convinced the

919
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:27.199
Trump administration to implement our version of
a two week shutdown than I was trying

920
01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:30.479
to figure out how to extend it. Yes, were you telling people about

921
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:34.800
that, Debra. Fifteen days to
slow the spread was a start, but

922
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:40.119
I knew it would be just that
I didn't have the numbers in front of

923
01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:44.159
me yet to make the case for
extending it longer. But I had two

924
01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:48.159
weeks to get them. Well,
you weren't going to get those numbers because

925
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:54.479
they weren't real. And Glenn Jacobs
pointed out in the meeting that they weren't

926
01:18:54.520 --> 01:19:00.199
real, and you said, well, yeah, we know that. It's

927
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:04.199
marketing, as Glenn said, not
science. It's fear mongering might be a

928
01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:10.560
better word. And of course the
final point is if one wants to look

929
01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:15.319
at the nexus between freedom, health, so called public health, and the

930
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:18.640
government. As David has said and
as I have said, there is no

931
01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:23.960
such thing as public health. There's
no such thing as public safety or public

932
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:30.439
security. That's the state telling you
that your security can be sacrificed for what

933
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:33.479
they say is the good of all. That's the state telling every individual.

934
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:38.960
You are always an individual. You
don't blend into some gelatinous mass when you're

935
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:42.359
out amongst people in this area or
that area, or you're part of this

936
01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:46.600
demographic group or that demographic group,
or whatever the politicians want to fascistly and

937
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:53.560
facetiously tell you you are part of. You are an individual. There is

938
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:59.840
only individual health and the idea that
the government can then impose its will on

939
01:20:00.239 --> 01:20:04.159
you, whether it's by taking your
money, or taking your opportunities, or

940
01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:09.119
forcing un to stay inside, taking
your other liberties. So called for the

941
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:15.520
protection of the public health means that
every individual who remains an individual is always

942
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:20.000
a target for the government, which
then undercuts the very logic of the government

943
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:25.600
saying that they're working for so called
public health, because if everyone can be

944
01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:30.600
a potential victim, that means that
the agent of threat is actually the state,

945
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:35.880
the government that claims that for everyone, everyone can be a potential victim.

946
01:20:36.399 --> 01:20:41.119
That's a qed. It's a non
starter. Logically, Aristotle could have

947
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:44.720
talked about that. You could get
this in a sixth grade logic class,

948
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:47.640
but politicians don't seem to get it. They love to put that rhetoric out

949
01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:50.880
there. They love to promote well, it's for the public. It's just

950
01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:57.920
like the Marxist neo Marxist cultural Marxist
idea of always finding the little guy,

951
01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:01.760
because hidden behind their mess is well, if you don't agree with this,

952
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:08.039
you are oppositional, you are a
danger. The Karens out there in politics

953
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:11.640
are going to call the cops if
you walk in your dog without a mask.

954
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:16.439
The little guy has to be protected, that person who's frail and invalid.

955
01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:21.840
They've got to be protected by force, not choice. And this is

956
01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:28.640
the final point that I'll make as
a free market proponent, I try to

957
01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:34.279
stress the importance of private property and
individual choice revealing preferences. We don't know

958
01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:40.159
how much security people want when it
comes to viruses unless we let them choose.

959
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:43.680
And the only way that we can
let them choose is to let them

960
01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:48.199
control their property and their interactions.
So the less often you have these public

961
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:55.319
places where everybody's opinions are thrown together
into the tragedy of the commons, the

962
01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:59.600
smaller these areas of political control,
the better it is. And if you

963
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.199
can pay or away even those small
areas of political control. If you go

964
01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:08.159
to private property, then you get
real individuals choosing. Do I want to

965
01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:11.920
go into that shop? I wonder
what they're like, what's their security protocol?

966
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:15.439
How much information do I have on
the threat? As people see other

967
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:19.479
people interacting and what happens to them, they start to say, well,

968
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:25.199
do I want to go into that
home? What's it like? Do I

969
01:22:25.239 --> 01:22:28.319
want to stay in that hotel?
What are the locks on the doors like?

970
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:31.079
What's their cleanliness like? Do I
want to eat at that restaurant?

971
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:35.399
What's their reputation? Like? Have
I been invited to a party, what's

972
01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:42.520
that person like, do I go
to this private school, what's their policy

973
01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:46.159
like? Do they protect kids?
Do they have gender neutral bathrooms? Right,

974
01:22:46.600 --> 01:22:51.600
not imposed on everybody, but choices, toy stores, what's in the

975
01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:58.520
toy store, revealing preferences rising and
falling based on what you're offering. If

976
01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:02.560
you had private property rather than government
run areas, then people could say,

977
01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:06.640
this is my viral security protocol.
This is what it's like. Do you

978
01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:09.960
want to commemen? Do you not
want to comme in? You can actually

979
01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:13.520
ask, And if you're not asking, you're not that interested. That's not

980
01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:15.880
my fault. I shouldn't be charged
with that. That's up to you.

981
01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:21.520
The more often you have these voluntary
areas of interaction, the more often you

982
01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:27.640
can see the results of people's own
choices. And every time someone leaves one

983
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:31.840
of those private arrangements, those private
situations, they can then enter into a

984
01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:38.279
new one. And every time that
happens, you see the manifestation of everyone's

985
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:43.960
interests. Those security protocols are brought
up. But with government as one size

986
01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:47.520
fits all, you can't have variation, you can't have experimentation. That's exactly

987
01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:56.000
what Deborah Birks was pushing. And
now let's hear from Naomi Wolf. Good

988
01:23:56.079 --> 01:24:01.520
job Glenn Jacobs getting that information out. Here's Naomi Wolf, who's grown tremendously.

989
01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:06.199
As I mentioned when we were talking
with James Boulevard yesterday, James and

990
01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:11.119
I were both at a Free State
Project conference here in New Hampshire. I

991
01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:14.680
think it was a year. After
I was speaking, Glenn was speaking,

992
01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:18.039
Naomi Wolf and James Bovard came up, they were guests, and had a

993
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:21.880
great conversation with both of them,
and Naomi was, you know, she

994
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:26.600
was very very much on the feminist
issues, that sort of thing that were

995
01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:30.319
maybe typical sort of feminist things,
very much in favor of free speech and

996
01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:33.399
that sort of stuff, but she
had not really dug down into some of

997
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:39.840
the agendas of the leftists and the
cloaks that they wore supposedly supporting freedom when

998
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:45.399
they were actually for statism, in
trying to portray people in a gaslight way

999
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:48.239
who might oppose the growth of the
state, trying to portray them as against

1000
01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:53.279
the little guy, when actually they
were not in favor of the little guy,

1001
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:56.760
those people who promoted the state.
Well, Naomi Wolf posts this,

1002
01:24:57.479 --> 01:25:02.560
She says stunning admission repost from Eric
Hartman. She says, yeah, okay,

1003
01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:08.680
we really weren't thinking about what would
happen after we helped to load those

1004
01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:15.119
people into those box cars. Of
course she's reminiscing bringing back thoughts about criticism

1005
01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:20.079
of Nazi Germany. Of course,
very appropriate here. The public health mindset

1006
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:25.640
is very narrow. She said,
that's because public health doesn't care about the

1007
01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:30.439
individual and only cares about the state. I want to go to this original

1008
01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:38.640
post as we see Francis Collins,
who was caught secretly communicating with Anthony Fauci

1009
01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:45.000
on how they would counter Jay Batikaria
and the others from the Great Barrington Declaration

1010
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:50.199
who were giving what was solid traditional
medical advice and proved to have been correct.

1011
01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:57.039
Do the regular idea of leaving people
free to associate with each other,

1012
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:01.640
let the healthy people do what they
want, suggests that the more frail stay

1013
01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:05.920
inside until you get to a number
of people who've contracted the virus, have

1014
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:11.640
been healthy and now have natural immunity. Let's see what Francis Collins. This

1015
01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:15.960
is, of course years now after
he wrote secret messages to Anthony Fauci,

1016
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:20.000
but we discovered them, thank you. Let's see what Eric Hartman has to

1017
01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:28.760
say, And here is Francis Collins, what a guy, as a guy

1018
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:32.239
living inside the Beltway, feeling the
sense of crisis, trying to decide what

1019
01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:35.840
to do in some situation room in
the White House with people who had data

1020
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:42.760
that was incomplete. We weren't really
thinking about what that would mean to wilk

1021
01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:47.359
and his family in Minnesota, a
thousand miles away from where the virus was

1022
01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:53.319
hitting so hard. We weren't really
considering the consequences in communities that were not

1023
01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:59.359
New York City or some other big
city. The public health people we talked

1024
01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:01.000
about this early, and this really
important point. If you're a public health

1025
01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:06.359
person and you're trying to make a
decision, you have this very narrow view

1026
01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:11.880
of what the right decision is,
and that is something that will save a

1027
01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:18.439
life, doesn't matter what else happened. So you attach infinite value to stopping

1028
01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:23.880
the disease and saving a life.
You attach a zero value to whether this

1029
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:28.800
actually totally disrupts people's lives, ruins
the economy, and has many kids kept

1030
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:32.079
out of school in a way that
they never quite require collateral damage. So

1031
01:27:32.119 --> 01:27:36.119
there, yeah, collateral damage.
This is a public health mindset, and

1032
01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:41.600
I think a lot of us involved
in trying to make those recommendations had that

1033
01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:45.840
mindset and that was really unfortunate.
It's another mistake. Okay, all right,

1034
01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:53.800
as a guy that collateral damage attitude. That's going to feed into our

1035
01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:59.720
topic for the last hour, and
that is going to be Douglas Murray and

1036
01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:03.640
the callous attitude. The term,
well, it's war. I don't think

1037
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:10.720
you understand innocent people get killed in
war. No. Actually, the traditional

1038
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:15.119
rules of war with the Capitol w
as it is written in the US Constitution,

1039
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:23.880
are that you don't kill civilians.
There isn't a term collateral damage in

1040
01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:28.039
the traditional view of war. And
yes there were exceptions that cropped up,

1041
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:31.960
but that was supposedly the deal in
war. The people who signed on the

1042
01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:36.319
fight for the monarchs people got hired, the knights, the soldiers, They

1043
01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:41.800
were the ones who put themselves at
risk, and innocent people were supposed to

1044
01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:45.279
be left out of it because it
was state on state. People like Francis

1045
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:54.319
Collins represent a new kind of war
criminal, liars, cheaters after the facts

1046
01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:58.279
excusing it, well, it's public
health. Just like I said, you

1047
01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:01.439
can be sacrificed, and they reverse
it, they flip it to say,

1048
01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:05.479
well, if we can just save
one life, Well, what you're doing

1049
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:11.199
is you are creating a situation where
people who might want to handle their own

1050
01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:15.199
lives can't be allowed to do so
you're destroying lives. That's what you're doing.

1051
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:21.960
And moreover, even if his decisions
were right, even if all these

1052
01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:27.520
decisions might have actually been the right
way to go, which we knew right

1053
01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:30.359
at the start, they weren't.
That's one of the reasons why why NewsGuard

1054
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:34.600
was going after us at MRCTV,
because I was publishing stuff at the start

1055
01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:40.600
of the pandemic so called that ran
counter so they were trying to silence us.

1056
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:45.039
MRCTV got shut off of YouTube often
had to come back. Luckily they

1057
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:51.439
have teams of lawyers working for them, and you know, we weren't going

1058
01:29:51.520 --> 01:30:00.319
to change our perspective on these things. So Francis Collins represent sense, not

1059
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:08.039
just bad decision making, but the
immoral idea that there can be a government

1060
01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:14.399
decision maker because the only way that
government decision makers get their money is by

1061
01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:18.560
forcing people to pay for it.
So all of it, all of it

1062
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:27.880
stems from immorality. So when we
talk about Francis Collins, I'm reminded of

1063
01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:31.000
something. I'd like to give this
to you. Some folks asked me a

1064
01:30:31.039 --> 01:30:35.560
little while ago, and this might
seem a little tangential, but some folks

1065
01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:38.880
asked me a little while ago,
Hey, Guard, why don't you talk

1066
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:41.079
about your fiction stuff? And so, oh, yeah, you know,

1067
01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:43.760
I don't do that. So there's
some fiction over at Amazon. And the

1068
01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:47.840
first novella that I got published is
called Byte, and in it, at

1069
01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:56.560
the back of it there's a short
story and it's called Sigil. I'd like

1070
01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:00.119
to read this to you. Let
me know what you think. What can

1071
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:08.039
I express about this strange phenomenon that
will not inspire within you merely a subtle

1072
01:31:08.079 --> 01:31:14.399
sense of disquiet, rather than utter, uncontrollable dread. To you, the

1073
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:19.199
tale I intend to recount will seem
a trifle, the most ordinary of occurrences,

1074
01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:25.880
dismissable as a simple twist of fate, or the combination of average circumstances,

1075
01:31:26.079 --> 01:31:30.279
as seen through an old man's paranoid
dementia. But to me, the

1076
01:31:30.319 --> 01:31:35.239
witness of these preternatural events, it
is a story so horrific as to implicate

1077
01:31:35.279 --> 01:31:43.159
the devil himself in my lonely and
solitary existence here in New England. I

1078
01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:47.800
have endeavored to trouble no one.
The pale and silent snows of winter blanket

1079
01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:56.000
my surroundings, delivering peace and tranquility
to my once tormented soul. They bring

1080
01:31:56.039 --> 01:32:00.239
to mind the deep, arboreal stillness
of my homeland, where a man might

1081
01:32:00.279 --> 01:32:06.239
walk for miles and encounter no one. His companions, mute and unmoving,

1082
01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:13.399
would consist of the majestic furs and
brooding oaks, and the crisp air would

1083
01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:17.920
fill his lungs and caress his skin. Invigorated and enlivened, he would march

1084
01:32:17.960 --> 01:32:21.600
with a bounce to his step,
planting his boots in the snow, and

1085
01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:27.840
delighting in the crunch of one against
the other. I can recall with vivid

1086
01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:32.199
clarity the varied colors of the wood, the deep green of the pines and

1087
01:32:32.239 --> 01:32:38.560
the pearly white of the snow,
the somber browns of the shadow filled valleys,

1088
01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:44.319
and the ghostly gray of my own
breath billowing into the air. The

1089
01:32:44.359 --> 01:32:48.840
frosted canopy had its own wonderful presence, and I encountered it like a subject

1090
01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:56.439
does his king, with heartfelt and
profound reverence. Many years have passed since

1091
01:32:56.520 --> 01:33:00.800
then, the days and trying times, accruing like layers of tarnish on silver.

1092
01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:05.800
But the brilliance of those memories remains
of a time when I was young

1093
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:13.239
and vital, standing alongside my friends
in a great and noble struggle. Tragically,

1094
01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:17.199
almost all of them are gone,
now buried beneath those knee deep snows,

1095
01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:24.439
their pale bones turning to dust in
unremarkable graves. It is all too

1096
01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:29.000
clear that I cannot return to see
them. But I do have my memories.

1097
01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:34.119
Although my loneliness is sometimes profound,
I can relive those halcyon days by

1098
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:42.359
exercising my mind and thumbing through my
careworn diary. My recollections from that time

1099
01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:47.199
are set down in some one hundred
and eighty pages in an almost unintelligible script,

1100
01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:53.960
written with an uncooperative fountain pen over
the course of three years. The

1101
01:33:53.960 --> 01:33:59.720
sheets themselves are yellowing and delicate,
like centuries old vellum, and bound in

1102
01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:04.800
a brown leather cover embossed with the
glorious seal of my people. It may

1103
01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:10.159
seem to you that all these images
are rather sedate and bucolic. A cottage

1104
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:15.359
in the woods, the drifting snow, a cherished diary. Had I not

1105
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:18.520
experienced what I have, I might
be inclined to agree, But such a

1106
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:25.800
judgment could not be further from the
truth. Think me mad if you must.

1107
01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:30.640
But it is these very underpinnings of
my ordinary world that have conspired to

1108
01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:38.760
drive me to paroxysms of fear,
the sort of chilled terror that is unvanquishable

1109
01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:45.000
and unrelenting. Winter evenings here can
be very cold, the air can numb

1110
01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:50.000
one's skin, and great harm can
be dult the delicate constitution of an old

1111
01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:58.319
man. I therefore wisely retire early, retreating to my familiar rocker by the

1112
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:04.079
fire, where I wrap myself in
homespun Yankee blankets and contemplate the leaping flames,

1113
01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:10.680
how lively they are, at times, rising up as if to engulf

1114
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:15.399
my entire world. Their lambent orange
glow is more than sufficient to illuminate the

1115
01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:21.760
cottage. The pop and crackle the
only sounds in the haunting night. On

1116
01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:27.920
my lap rests my diary, a
tiny looking glass to days gone by.

1117
01:35:28.840 --> 01:35:33.600
As I scan the pages and remember, a curious sensation of warmth or spreads

1118
01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:41.119
my aged form, bringing with it
contentedness and lethargy. The scribbled words speak

1119
01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:46.600
clearly to me from long ago,
telling those familiar stories I hold so dear,

1120
01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:51.239
and I cannot help but feel a
pang of emotion upon reading them.

1121
01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:59.479
Occasionally I am even driven to weep. Perhaps it was the salt water coalescing

1122
01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:04.239
in my eyes, or a manifestation
of my failing sight. But three nights

1123
01:36:04.279 --> 01:36:13.399
ago, as I felt slumber coming
on, something most peculiar occurred. The

1124
01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:18.159
fire was slowly dying, its light
retreating to the interior of the wood,

1125
01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:24.920
and I sat content in my warm
and comfortable chair. I had been fighting

1126
01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:30.720
off drowsiness with an ever weakening resolve, hoping to finish a particular chapter written

1127
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:34.039
in nineteen forty two. Had I
been a younger man, perhaps I would

1128
01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:39.479
have stayed awake, listening to the
howl of the frigid wind. But as

1129
01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:44.399
it happened, my head began to
nod, my chin to rest on my

1130
01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:50.159
shrunken chest, and my eyes to
close. It was then, when I

1131
01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:57.079
was most susceptible, that it happened. As I tried to remain awake a

1132
01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:02.159
moment longer, the letters on the
page I mean to move, shifting ever

1133
01:37:02.239 --> 01:37:08.039
so slightly. I dazedly blinked and
came back to myself. But the odd

1134
01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:13.479
moment had passed, and there being
nothing remarkable to see, my eyes quickly

1135
01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:18.079
lost their focus. I proceeded to
fall into a deep, uninterrupted sleep.

1136
01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:25.560
This sequence of events occurred on the
night following as well, in precisely the

1137
01:37:25.640 --> 01:37:30.880
same manner, under entirely similar circumstances. The fire had expired, the room

1138
01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:38.119
had grown dim, and the grieving
furies wailed like tormented souls outside my little

1139
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:44.439
cabin. But what my eyes beheld
this time, as I retained that final

1140
01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:48.199
bit of self awareness, made me
jerk awkwardly to life. The ink had

1141
01:37:48.199 --> 01:37:55.319
blurred and moved as surely as I
breathed, and most unholy of all,

1142
01:37:56.079 --> 01:38:00.920
a word had appeared, dared at
the faded script on the page. But

1143
01:38:01.359 --> 01:38:06.399
like quicksilver, the message was gone. I was left with only an impression

1144
01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:15.079
of what had been a fleeting impartation
of something horrid and unspeakable. The diary

1145
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:18.920
invited further investigation, but I could
not bring myself to read it. To

1146
01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:25.520
read what I knew to be the
simple recollections of a young man, I

1147
01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:30.520
shivered convulsively, and suddenly aware of
my age and solitude, I sought the

1148
01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:34.600
refuge of my bed. When I
awoke this morning, all memory of that

1149
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:40.439
uncanny experience had vanished from my mind. The day was bright and sparkling with

1150
01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:45.680
possibilities, and although I first drifted
about absent mindedly, as if there were

1151
01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:51.800
something important that required my attention,
I quickly shed my listlessness in favor of

1152
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:57.479
a stroll through the woods, and
some late afternoon hours spent collecting fuel for

1153
01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:02.880
the fire. I returned to the
cottage tired but contented, and recalled with

1154
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:10.159
a smile. Those days I had
exhausted myself in the service of my country,

1155
01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:14.439
marching back and forth along the stark, frozen perimeter of our camp.

1156
01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:18.960
A hot meal of beef stew and
a touch of sherry to rekindle my heart,

1157
01:39:19.039 --> 01:39:25.199
and I was ready to recline by
the hearth. My belly was full

1158
01:39:25.239 --> 01:39:30.119
and my spirits were high. But
as I settled into the old rocker with

1159
01:39:30.159 --> 01:39:35.920
my diary in hand, a strange
sense of unease seized upon me. It

1160
01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:42.159
was slow to comprehend, building ever
so gradually, but it probably existed.

1161
01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:46.760
Nonetheless, the twilight and the glow
of the fire reminded me of something,

1162
01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:54.920
something from the previous night that I
should have recalled, but could not like

1163
01:39:54.960 --> 01:40:01.760
a half forgotten dream. It was
a word, a word. I must

1164
01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:05.399
have slipped into an uneasy sleep,
then, for when I opened my eyes

1165
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:12.079
some time later, the fire had
died outside. The pale face of the

1166
01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:16.479
moon shone just over the blackened tips
of the trees, and it cast strange

1167
01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:23.520
shadows on the floor. Perhaps I
was still in a dream like days,

1168
01:40:23.600 --> 01:40:29.359
But looking at those other worldly designs, I felt a peculiar chill grip me,

1169
01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:33.640
as if something most foul had found
deliverance from the grave and touched me

1170
01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:38.880
with its cold and lifeless hand.
I rose, gripping my diary to my

1171
01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:42.800
chest, and hastened toward my bed, where I thought I might find peace.

1172
01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:48.079
I moved stiffly, without much grace, my thin legs weak and unsteady,

1173
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:53.039
Coming to rest upon the mattress,
I laid my diary down on the

1174
01:40:53.119 --> 01:40:57.800
night table and slipped beneath the covers. I shut my eyes and for some

1175
01:40:57.880 --> 01:41:05.239
time sought the intoxicating neck of sleep. It remained elusive. The moon rose

1176
01:41:05.319 --> 01:41:10.960
higher, and my unease grew.
I felt that the letters in my diary

1177
01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:15.079
had tried to tell me something I
knew. It was a warning, a

1178
01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:18.560
premonition, of the future. Of
that, I was certain, but the

1179
01:41:18.640 --> 01:41:25.319
meaning remained unclear. I sat up, propped against the pillows, a weak,

1180
01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:30.439
frightened old man, staring into the
gloom. My body lay before me,

1181
01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:35.720
spent and emaciated, covered by blankets, as if by a death shroud,

1182
01:41:36.119 --> 01:41:44.119
repulsing me, reminding me of them. Confused, I turned away.

1183
01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:48.119
I tried to avert my gaze,
but my eyes fixed on the blanched flooring

1184
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:56.520
of the room as I listened more
closely to the howls beyond the walls.

1185
01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:08.319
The howls tormented souls, and I
understood the moonlight shining garishly through the twisted

1186
01:42:08.359 --> 01:42:14.119
limbs of the denuded forest, slid
slowly across the old planking of the floor,

1187
01:42:15.039 --> 01:42:19.199
and in the swirling grain of the
faded pine. I saw their faces,

1188
01:42:20.279 --> 01:42:27.600
twisted and tortured, screaming at me
like inhuman beasts, their mouths tearing

1189
01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:32.880
apart, eyes bursting with fear.
They were the faces of the past,

1190
01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:41.199
the faces of the camp, and
I had seen them all before I fell

1191
01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:45.119
asleep. I ventured one last look
at my diary, at the cursed black

1192
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:50.399
insignia emblazoned on its cover, and
I knew the word I had read.

1193
01:42:51.720 --> 01:43:00.840
I closed my eyes. The word
was hell. So that's for you.

1194
01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:06.640
Francis Collins, hope you enjoyed it. That's for you. Soldiers who go

1195
01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:14.600
out and commit war crimes. That's
for you. Former Waffen SS trooper.

1196
01:43:15.079 --> 01:43:20.119
May you ask for forgiveness for your
soul. That's for you. Anthony Fauci,

1197
01:43:20.760 --> 01:43:29.319
Donald Trump, Eco Health Alliance,
Paul Zazak, that's for you.

1198
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:38.840
Even US soldiers to be reminded and
perhaps a less forceful tone. Please remember

1199
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:46.439
when you're sent to Afghanistan, and
GERALDO. Rivera interviews you, like Lieutenant

1200
01:43:46.520 --> 01:43:54.239
Christian or Christmas Brian Christmas twenty years
ago in the poppy fields of Afghanistan,

1201
01:43:55.640 --> 01:44:00.119
you took an oath. You took
an oath to the US Constitution, and

1202
01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:04.399
it doesn't allow that. It doesn't
allow any soldiers to be stationed outside the

1203
01:44:04.479 --> 01:44:13.520
United States unless there's a declaration of
war with a capital W, war with

1204
01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:18.920
a capital W. It has rules. The Constitution has rules. I'm an

1205
01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:24.880
anarchist. I never signed the Constitution. But you who enter the government offices,

1206
01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:30.359
you swear oaths, and you flout
those o's all the time. You

1207
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:36.920
use them like toilet paper. You
coerce. You push people around, you

1208
01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:51.560
become fascists. Someday you must answer
for this, save yourself. Let's hop

1209
01:44:51.560 --> 01:44:56.079
into rockfinchat thank you for being there, one and all. I'm Gardner Golsmith

1210
01:44:56.119 --> 01:45:00.000
filling in for David Knight and I
want to thank uh. Let's see oh

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01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:04.279
over Greg Talent gave a tip over
at Rock Finn. Thank you, Greg.

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01:45:04.359 --> 01:45:09.960
Appreciate it, really really appreciate it, especially because I'm filling in for

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01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:13.159
David. But in a way I'm
also filling in for Tony because Tony's ill

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01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:16.239
today. So Tony Ardeburn of Wise
Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange was going to

1215
01:45:16.319 --> 01:45:19.600
be here, but you just can't
do it. So I said, you

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01:45:19.600 --> 01:45:23.079
know what, we were texting this
morning. I said, yeah, I'll

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01:45:23.439 --> 01:45:26.479
love to be there with the audience. It be terrific. It's a great

1218
01:45:26.479 --> 01:45:30.359
opportunity for me and hopefully we get
to share some good info. So feel

1219
01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:33.600
free to offer your comments in rock
Fin and rumble Chat, and of course

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01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:39.119
share hit the thumbs up, share
this with as many people as you can.

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01:45:40.079 --> 01:45:45.479
And Harps from Australia, Hello,
Harps, you know what I'm talking

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01:45:45.479 --> 01:45:48.840
about, big time Harps. Harps
knows more about the United States Constitution as

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01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:55.880
a guy coming from Australia than most
American politicians, I'd say ninety nine percent

1224
01:45:55.920 --> 01:46:00.000
of them. It's amazing. Harps, thank you very much, he said.

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01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:04.479
Guard means business over at Rockvin so
right, and Brian dev McCartney to

1226
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:09.479
two viewers in one says, oh, wondering where Tony was. Yeah,

1227
01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:12.880
Tony texted this morning, says he
just he's too sick, can't do it.

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01:46:13.159 --> 01:46:15.840
So and Tony is such a good
guy. And Stephen Caspar thank you,

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01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:21.319
Steven, appreciate it. Michael Palmroy
prayer signs for Tony. Absolutely,

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01:46:21.319 --> 01:46:27.119
everybody. Let's pray for good things
to happen to Tony getting better and and

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01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:30.600
thanks again for being so welcoming to
me. I really really appreciate it.

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01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:36.720
Uh, I'm looking at rumble chat
now. Stelts Patriot says, Guard,

1233
01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:44.279
you better watch how much you read. Joe Biden might plagiarize you or maybe

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01:46:44.359 --> 01:46:47.479
be the head of Harvard is gay
now that she has not come out strong

1235
01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:51.079
enough in favor of the Zionist state
of Israel. Now they can knock her

1236
01:46:51.119 --> 01:46:58.960
out of that position for plagiarism and
paraphrasing. So many people right, so

1237
01:46:58.960 --> 01:47:01.359
so true. Doug log over at
Rumble, thank you so much, go

1238
01:47:01.439 --> 01:47:05.039
Guard, go give him hell,
thank you so much. And Grammy for

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01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:12.079
God says feel better, Tony and
uh and Owen sixty one says Guard makes

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01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:17.399
a killer smash burger. Thanks me, I appreciate it. Thank you all

1241
01:47:17.520 --> 01:47:20.720
for being so much. Fun boy, It's great. I remember, you

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01:47:20.720 --> 01:47:23.840
know, while I'm filling in for
David, I do I do want to

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01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:26.439
mention again, not too much.
You try to find like the right number

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01:47:26.439 --> 01:47:30.760
of times to mention it. But
go to the David Knight Davidnightshow dot Com.

1245
01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:34.039
Find out about the store David Knight's
Show store. You can support David

1246
01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:41.000
Knight on on a subscribe star and
of course you can contribute right now anytime

1247
01:47:41.560 --> 01:47:44.000
if you're if you're watching, if
you like what's going on, you like

1248
01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:45.720
the people who are sort of the
support team, and you know, big

1249
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:50.000
fans of David and love what he
does. He is the Apex. Head

1250
01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:54.159
over to Rumble of Rockfinn and you
could drop a donation there, just like

1251
01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:58.359
we saw over at Rockfinn just a
little while ago, which was incredibly generous

1252
01:47:58.359 --> 01:48:01.159
and very very nice of great talent
to do so so let me thank you

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01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:06.520
all, and now I do want
to turn actually back to rockfin in just

1254
01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:11.359
a couple of minutes. Let me
give you a quick update about what's going

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01:48:11.399 --> 01:48:15.520
on with Elon Musk and free speech. You talk about Joe Biden plagiarism.

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01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:19.359
Yes, indeed he did plagiarize Neil
Kinnick. He also got caught for plagiarism

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01:48:19.359 --> 01:48:24.399
in law school. And yeah,
now he's president of the United States,

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01:48:24.479 --> 01:48:29.119
so I think we can see that
being President of the United States is in

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01:48:29.199 --> 01:48:32.800
no way a reflection of someone's character
being good. That's for darn sure.

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01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:38.399
So here's what's going on in the
EU, everybody, and I'll take my

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01:48:38.479 --> 01:48:42.000
lovely mug off the screen a little, make it a little smaller and show

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01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:47.079
you this. This comes from article
nineteen Digital Services Act Infringement in the EU.

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01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:50.399
Now, this story came out over
a week ago, but I missed

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01:48:50.399 --> 01:48:54.880
it, so I apologize I didn't
see it. I better allow all those

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01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:59.359
cookies. Good. Yeah, so
Elon Musk is coming up to it right

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01:48:59.359 --> 01:49:02.560
now, folks. On December eighteenth, or on eighteen December, as they'd

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01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:10.800
say in Europe, the European Union
formally opened infringement proceedings into social media platform

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01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:15.239
X formerly known as Twitter, over
potential breaches of a number of provisions of

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01:49:15.279 --> 01:49:19.800
the Digital Services Act. Now remember
they've got a bit of a variation of

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01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:28.000
this now that they've opened up the
Online Online Security Act or Online Safety Act,

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01:49:28.039 --> 01:49:31.960
which is an expansion of OFFCOM in
the UK. Even though Britain has

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01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:36.800
supposedly disconnected from the EU and it's
taking forever and it's not really disconnected through

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01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:44.239
defense arrangements and things like that,
the British government has this thing called OFFCOM,

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01:49:44.560 --> 01:49:51.239
and OFFCOM is basically a panel of
bureaucrats that supposedly come from the telecommunications

1275
01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:58.119
over the air industry for news and
broadcasting, and they can just arbitrarily decide

1276
01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:03.000
that some broadcaster has breached their standards
of conduct, whatever that might be,

1277
01:50:03.039 --> 01:50:09.479
for so called malinformation or misinformation.
And so rather than going through it surretitiously

1278
01:50:09.560 --> 01:50:14.079
through things like the Portmand Murphy Act
and back doors to Facebook and the FBI

1279
01:50:14.239 --> 01:50:19.199
paying Twitter three million dollars to suppress
our statements about elections or the Cowabunga virus

1280
01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:23.479
or the jabs, rather than doing
it that way, they just overtly at

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01:50:23.479 --> 01:50:27.880
offcom say well you broadcasters. You're
gonna be fined now, sort of like

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01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:32.800
the FCC essentially, you know,
incredibly fascist, incredibly immoral and telling people

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01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:35.239
this is how you're going to run
your business. Right, Yeah, I

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01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:41.119
think we've seen it. It's manifested
everything from toy stores to broadcasters. Okay,

1285
01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:44.520
they claim, well it's the public
airwaves. No they're not the public

1286
01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:46.199
airwaves. Of course, then you're
causing the tragedy of the commons. Maybe

1287
01:50:46.239 --> 01:50:50.079
some people want swearing on online,
how much swaring, how many per hours?

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01:50:50.159 --> 01:50:53.640
We don't know. We have to
let the market decide that. It's

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01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:56.720
sort of like when they want to
put labels on records. You wouldn't see

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01:50:56.760 --> 01:51:00.720
Stephen King and I mentioned him before, claiming that the government should run books

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01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:03.399
because there's a limited amount of paper
products that you can put out at any

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01:51:03.399 --> 01:51:08.000
given time without cutting down all the
trees. And yet they claim that because

1293
01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:13.520
the broadcast spectrum is limited, somehow
the government's got to control that. You

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01:51:13.560 --> 01:51:16.159
could apply the same logic to books
and papers right when you didn't have the

1295
01:51:16.199 --> 01:51:21.640
electronic medium of publishing. But they
try to do this now with electronics electronic

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01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:26.520
publishing, and they're doing this in
England now with this online safety thing,

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01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:32.319
which is now taking the offcon principle
and applying it to any platform that is

1298
01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:38.319
online and Internet service providers. Liz
Warren wants to do the same thing in

1299
01:51:38.359 --> 01:51:42.479
the United States and she's teaming up
with none other wank wank. Yes,

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01:51:42.720 --> 01:51:47.000
very exciting then with Lindsey Graham,
and they literally want to force people who

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01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:53.159
are going to be opening up websites
that have larger numbers of people visiting them.

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01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:55.359
How that's going to happen, I
don't know. They're going to have

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01:51:55.359 --> 01:52:00.359
to get licensed by the government,
just like the FCC will dole allow or

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01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:04.520
not doll out licenses to people because
they've got the power. So over in

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01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:10.239
the EU, they've got their equivalent
to this, which is their Digital Services

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01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:15.279
Act. Because the EU originally was
started as a supposed free market, free

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01:52:15.319 --> 01:52:20.720
exchange pulling down the tariffs between the
nation state's idea and what happened it became

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01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:27.760
a bureaucracy, a mechanism of government
control. So they say they're going to

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01:52:27.800 --> 01:52:31.720
be opening their proceedings over potential breaches
of a number of provisions of the Digital

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01:52:31.800 --> 01:52:39.920
Services Act. Article nineteen of the
Act supports robust enforcement of the DSA and

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01:52:39.960 --> 01:52:45.680
the Commission's efforts to so called ensure
that X fully complies with its obligations because

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01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:48.960
they just call them obligations now,
they make that up. They say,

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01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:55.359
well, you've got obligations now,
No, they're impositions. An obligation is

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01:52:55.359 --> 01:52:59.680
something I take on myself and I
recognize morally, and imposition is a threat.

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01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:02.199
Ah, regulations, back to the
mafia. Well, let's go to

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01:53:02.479 --> 01:53:06.880
the Expose and see what else they
have to say about this. Patricia Harridy

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01:53:06.920 --> 01:53:12.840
wrote on December twentieth. Right here, Ah, there's that woman Vanderland who

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01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:16.079
was in secret communications with the head
of Pfizer as they were getting ready to

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01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:21.479
buy all their EU jabs. You
know, afterwards they found out thanks to

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01:53:23.239 --> 01:53:30.039
that Dutch EU parliament member mister Russ, that miss Small or was it Jennine

1321
01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:34.920
Smalls or Burtree Smalls and said that
they we didn't know what was going to

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01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:40.520
work or not because we had to
move by the speed of science. The

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01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:45.279
speed of science. Oh, that's
a nice, nice euphemism for fascist purchase

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01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:49.239
of our drug and make billions of
dollars. I get it here. It

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01:53:49.279 --> 01:53:54.199
is from the Expose. It's Expose
hyphen News if you're looking for it.

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01:53:54.520 --> 01:53:59.840
The European Union has vowed to permanently
shut down X if Elon Musk doesn't immediately

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01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:03.720
and alternative media from the platform.
What does that mean, Well, perhaps

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01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:10.000
info Wars and others. They mentioned
aj Alex here Alex Jones is calling for

1329
01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:14.119
US to defend Musk and seems to
think that the unelected body has launched this

1330
01:54:14.239 --> 01:54:17.279
plan to silence Americans ahead of the
twenty twenty four election. Well, perhaps

1331
01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:21.520
he's right and says this amounts to
a foreign coup. Well, you know,

1332
01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:26.800
okay, maybe maybe not. They
have him quoted there. On Monday,

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01:54:26.840 --> 01:54:31.079
the EU announced it was launching the
formal infringement proceedings against X over a

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01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:38.319
recently implemented law intended to crack down
on independent media. The announcement of the

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01:54:38.359 --> 01:54:44.000
probe comes weeks after X formerly Twitter, was asked to provide assurances that it

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01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:48.760
was complying with the terms of the
European Bloc's Digital Services Act. Under the

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01:54:48.880 --> 01:54:54.920
law, the threat, which came
into effect in August, a company can

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01:54:54.960 --> 01:55:00.960
be fined up to six percent of
its annual global income for or or being

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01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:04.359
banned or be banned from operating in
the EU. If it is found to

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01:55:04.439 --> 01:55:11.439
have breached the sweeping legislation. And
they have copies of the legislation right there

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01:55:11.439 --> 01:55:14.479
if you want to see it,
and here it is there. Quote today

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01:55:14.520 --> 01:55:19.920
we open farm all infringement proceedings against
X X X X Terry Breton, the

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01:55:19.960 --> 01:55:28.119
EU commissioner. It's amazing. You
know X can only survive by voluntary payments

1344
01:55:28.199 --> 01:55:31.720
now that the FBI is not giving
them millions of dollars. Right, how

1345
01:55:31.840 --> 01:55:38.680
is Terry Breton paid this EU commissioner? He's responsible for this. Oh,

1346
01:55:38.680 --> 01:55:43.479
that's right off the backs of other
people. Breton added that the move had

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01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:48.520
been taken in response to a suspective
breach of obligations to counter and ego content

1348
01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:55.920
and disinformation, suspected breach of transparency
obligations. You think they're going to invade

1349
01:55:56.159 --> 01:56:00.119
Elon Musk's house, you know,
come in like Brazil, drilled down through

1350
01:56:00.199 --> 01:56:04.000
the through the ceiling, burst through
the door and take him away. Or

1351
01:56:04.039 --> 01:56:09.159
maybe that'll be someone whose letter is
just a couple letters away from Musk.

1352
01:56:09.239 --> 01:56:13.479
They'll invade somebody's house. His last
name will be Tusk, because that's the

1353
01:56:13.560 --> 01:56:17.159
way it started in Brazil. A
fly landing on the typewriter for the for

1354
01:56:17.199 --> 01:56:21.239
the warrant and not even warrant the
order to go after people go after this

1355
01:56:21.279 --> 01:56:29.199
guy named Tuttle, and they went
after a guy named Buttle instead. Whoops,

1356
01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:36.560
oh Man, Terry Gilliam showing the
evil and the unworkable craziness at the

1357
01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:43.000
same time, the absurdity of evil
amazing. You know, thinking about the

1358
01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:48.439
EU, I'm wondering, do you
think they'll suppress independent voices like David Knight

1359
01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:56.720
like this? You think they'll stop
Rockvin and Rumble the way Rumble is being

1360
01:56:56.760 --> 01:57:02.520
stopped in Brazil? And why we
know that people who are real big at

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01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:11.000
Rumble are people like Glenn Greenwald,
Russell Brand redacted, Kim Iverson, Jimmy

1362
01:57:11.039 --> 01:57:18.600
Dore. Strangely, curiously, they're
all people who have exposed the jabs.

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01:57:19.600 --> 01:57:27.920
They're all people who have opposed the
who. They're all people who have called

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01:57:27.920 --> 01:57:33.119
for decentralization or returned to smaller governments
and more freedom, privacy and free speech.

1365
01:57:34.880 --> 01:57:41.079
Isn't that curious? Even left wingers
like Glenn Greenwald and form left wingers,

1366
01:57:41.279 --> 01:57:45.960
and still in many cases left wingers
like Russell Brand, Jimmy Dore,

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01:57:46.520 --> 01:57:50.760
left wing stand up comedian he wants
universal healthcare, perhaps will learn even on

1368
01:57:50.800 --> 01:57:55.960
that part that you don't want that. We've seen what the trappings of universal

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01:57:55.960 --> 01:58:00.319
healthcare do when they're calling for controlling
your healthcare through jazz and lockdowns and things.

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01:58:00.359 --> 01:58:03.439
And I don't see how you're gonna
be able to separate those. But

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01:58:04.520 --> 01:58:11.439
they have been very outspoken about war. You think this website will be shut

1372
01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:17.560
down from tweeting if the EU has
its way, The website called antiwar dot

1373
01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:24.760
com. How about the Libertarian Institute
where Scott Horton was very, very involved,

1374
01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:29.119
and he's been very involved in antiwar
just you know, people like us

1375
01:58:29.920 --> 01:58:34.000
pushing for peace. Right. Well, here is a little bit of what

1376
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:44.000
I mentioned earlier about Douglas Murray's attitude
and the attitude of the very people who

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01:58:44.039 --> 01:58:53.039
helped promote Hamas to run the Palestinian
State, so called the Palestinian Corral in

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01:58:53.119 --> 01:59:00.680
Gaza, where they have had an
ever decreasing size for the people to live

1379
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:06.359
as Israel has moved further and further
north, bulldozed homes, brought in their

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01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:12.920
new developments, and corralled people.
As Norman Finkelstein has said, there are

1381
01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:18.359
some people under eighteen who have never
even left Gaza. They've never left.

1382
01:59:20.520 --> 01:59:28.000
Benjamin net Nyahu, who openly on
more than one occasion has supported Hamas to

1383
01:59:28.119 --> 01:59:30.880
lead Gaza because he knew and has
said that they would be oppositional and not

1384
01:59:31.039 --> 01:59:36.600
open to negotiation, which would then
give the leadership of Israel a so called

1385
01:59:36.760 --> 01:59:44.680
justification for engaging in more military conflict
with Hamas. Net Nyahu says he's looking

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01:59:44.720 --> 01:59:51.800
for countries to absorb Palestinians from Gaza. They treat them like products, like

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01:59:53.039 --> 01:59:58.119
things just to be moved around.
You just move them anywhere you want.

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01:59:59.319 --> 02:00:04.159
This is from the two twenty sixth
I think it's worth reiteration. Israeli Prime

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02:00:04.199 --> 02:00:11.560
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at a meeting
of his Likud party on Monday that he's

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02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:16.119
working to bring about the expulsion of
Palestinians from Gaza and looking for countries willing

1391
02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:23.680
to quote absorb them. Quote.
Our problem is countries that are ready to

1392
02:00:23.800 --> 02:00:28.159
absorb them. Well, who are
you to say to tell other nation states

1393
02:00:28.199 --> 02:00:32.880
and the people within them that they
should absorb anybody? How about leaving people

1394
02:00:32.920 --> 02:00:39.079
alone? All that's right. You
can't distinguish between the hostage takers and the

1395
02:00:39.119 --> 02:00:45.319
hostages you killed three hostages, and
there were Israelis who were being returned and

1396
02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:51.000
trying to escape, I should say, and you also shot on October seventh,

1397
02:00:51.119 --> 02:00:55.600
shot people you thought were Hamas fighters
and they turned out to be some

1398
02:00:55.680 --> 02:01:01.520
of your own soldiers and civilians,
Israeli civilians. You told civilians within Gaza

1399
02:01:01.560 --> 02:01:06.079
to go south and then started bombing
that area. Many of the things that

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02:01:06.119 --> 02:01:12.439
you're claiming about targeting people are undercut
by the fact that you're not using so

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02:01:12.560 --> 02:01:15.800
called smart bombs, and even with
the smart bombs, you're killing civilians.

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02:01:15.039 --> 02:01:21.479
What is this idea of collateral damage
that Francis Collins fatuously mentions as if,

1403
02:01:21.479 --> 02:01:24.880
well, it's just part of the
thing. It's for the public, public

1404
02:01:24.880 --> 02:01:31.479
health, public defense. Maybe there's
a different way theodoric of York. How

1405
02:01:31.479 --> 02:01:38.359
about this net Yahoo vows to expand
operations in Gaza, says war isn't close

1406
02:01:38.439 --> 02:01:45.600
to finished. Want to take a
moment to give you the opportunity to hear

1407
02:01:48.600 --> 02:01:56.319
something that I did last night,
and you'll find it on Rockfinn. I'd

1408
02:01:56.319 --> 02:01:59.079
love to get your opinions about it, because now I want to turn to

1409
02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:10.840
Douglas Murray and his appearance on this
show called uncensored as I flick a couple

1410
02:02:10.920 --> 02:02:16.239
buttons here. We'll get to that
in just a moment. The first thing

1411
02:02:16.279 --> 02:02:21.159
I want to do is I want
to play for you, perhaps a little

1412
02:02:21.199 --> 02:02:30.000
something that you might enjoy from the
David Knight Show. And it is,

1413
02:02:30.239 --> 02:02:39.800
yes, still a holiday theme.
It's a holiday promotion of his fantastic record.

1414
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Here it is. I'm delighted to
present something born from my love for

1415
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music in the Christmas season. Christmas
Night is a perfect companiment for anything from

1416
02:02:55.159 --> 02:03:06.479
family gatherings, but ament is a
peaceful reflection. I hope us to provide

1417
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a fresh take for the soundtrack of
Christmas. This collection of twenty instrumental songs

1418
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brings new life to timeless Christmas classics
with original orchestrations alongside lesser known, yet

1419
02:03:31.840 --> 02:03:51.920
equally enchanting carols. For the listeners
of The David Knight Show, this is

1420
02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:59.039
more than music as part of our
shared journey, Christmas Night is available at

1421
02:03:59.039 --> 02:04:02.039
The David Night Show. May it
bring a little extra joy and peace to

1422
02:04:02.159 --> 02:04:16.399
your Christmas season. Thank you for
your unwavering support and for joining me in

1423
02:04:16.479 --> 02:04:26.720
this new musical adventure. Very Christmas
to all and all, A good Christmas

1424
02:04:26.800 --> 02:04:31.520
Night. Wonderful stuff. And you
know, I love listening to it because

1425
02:04:31.880 --> 02:04:41.720
the music in it shows such dexterity
and such a facility with musicianship. It

1426
02:04:41.920 --> 02:04:47.760
just is absolutely remarkable. And I
have to say it's nice because now that

1427
02:04:47.800 --> 02:04:51.199
I've gotten older, I think the
same thing about writing. I think the

1428
02:04:51.239 --> 02:04:58.079
same thing about watching films and so
on. It allows me to think about

1429
02:04:58.239 --> 02:05:05.119
and remember the people behind the music. I really find it just wonderful.

1430
02:05:05.159 --> 02:05:09.800
So I think about David, his
his musicianship, his ability to be able

1431
02:05:09.840 --> 02:05:15.039
to use the programs and uh,
you know, play play instruments himself.

1432
02:05:15.319 --> 02:05:18.800
It's just it's amazing, just amazing
stuff. I absolutely love it, So

1433
02:05:19.119 --> 02:05:23.920
check it out. I wanted to
make sure that I talked about that as

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02:05:23.920 --> 02:05:26.600
I fill in. I'm Gardner Goldsmith
by the way. Uh, you know,

1435
02:05:26.640 --> 02:05:29.800
you talk about the issues. You
forget to mention yourself sometimes Gardener goals.

1436
02:05:29.800 --> 02:05:31.920
But nice to have you here.
Everyone. Some of you might know

1437
02:05:32.000 --> 02:05:35.840
my work for MRC TV. That's
probably where I get. You know,

1438
02:05:35.920 --> 02:05:39.920
most of the people who might you
know, recognize some of my pieces or

1439
02:05:40.039 --> 02:05:43.840
videos or something like that. Occasionally
you bump into somebody at the town dump.

1440
02:05:43.880 --> 02:05:45.960
There's a guy who was like,
hey, I watch a video like

1441
02:05:45.000 --> 02:05:47.119
god, dude, good to see
him. Man, So we talk.

1442
02:05:47.239 --> 02:05:50.840
He's great and so it's fun.
You make a nice connection, whether it's

1443
02:05:50.880 --> 02:05:54.520
you know, person in person or
over the internet, and then you hope

1444
02:05:54.520 --> 02:05:57.600
you can make more connections by meeting
some of the great people in the chat

1445
02:05:57.640 --> 02:06:00.199
and so on. It the David
Knights Show, the Rock Finn that in

1446
02:06:00.279 --> 02:06:03.319
particular, very very close, really
wonderful people, and so many people go

1447
02:06:03.399 --> 02:06:08.600
off and do their own work for
freedom. So thanks everybody. It's a

1448
02:06:08.600 --> 02:06:11.920
wonderful family, just like the David
Knight family. So thank you. You

1449
02:06:11.960 --> 02:06:15.640
find my mrsc TV work again Liberty
Conspiracy Monday through Friday, starting at six

1450
02:06:16.079 --> 02:06:19.159
for at least an hour and a
half every night on Rumble and Rockfinn.

1451
02:06:19.239 --> 02:06:21.960
And if you do want to follow
me on Twitter, love to get some

1452
02:06:23.000 --> 02:06:25.760
more people back, you know,
back in my Twitter thing. If you

1453
02:06:25.760 --> 02:06:29.279
want to contact me on the backside, do so. That's awkwardly stated.

1454
02:06:29.720 --> 02:06:32.920
It's at guard Goldsmith. It's gar
D Goldsmith, So check it out.

1455
02:06:32.920 --> 02:06:36.880
And yeah, I always forget to
mention the fiction, but I've got some

1456
02:06:38.039 --> 02:06:41.600
novels coming out, as I mentioned
was it yesterday. There's one novel that

1457
02:06:41.640 --> 02:06:45.039
didn't come out yet because I declined
the contract as they wanted me to go

1458
02:06:45.399 --> 02:06:48.520
by a pseudonym so it would separate
me from my political work. And I

1459
02:06:48.560 --> 02:06:50.399
was like, why would I want
to do that. My parents brought me

1460
02:06:50.479 --> 02:06:55.159
up with these principles. I've expanded
on my education, have worked hard for

1461
02:06:55.199 --> 02:06:59.000
this, and I fight for freedom. I'm not afraid to, you know,

1462
02:06:59.279 --> 02:07:03.680
to put my fings under my name. So you can find find three

1463
02:07:03.720 --> 02:07:06.399
novella's out there. One of them, I do want to warn you one

1464
02:07:06.439 --> 02:07:12.119
of them, called Fishing, has
some extreme violence in it, so be

1465
02:07:12.279 --> 02:07:16.399
very very careful. Don't give it
to like a teenager under sixteen or so

1466
02:07:16.600 --> 02:07:21.399
seventeen, Please beware of that.
So okay, well, talking about extreme

1467
02:07:21.479 --> 02:07:26.399
violence, let's now go for a
theme. Let's hear from Edwin Starr.

1468
02:07:32.399 --> 02:08:05.199
Yeah, absolute, yeah, y'all
you got it, Edwin Star, well

1469
02:08:05.239 --> 02:08:11.119
done. What a voice? Huh
boy, that guy's got some voice.

1470
02:08:11.760 --> 02:08:16.199
Yeah. Well, they tried to
fight. Many of those people who were

1471
02:08:16.199 --> 02:08:22.920
opposed to the Vietnam so called war
later never declared war. They tried,

1472
02:08:24.119 --> 02:08:26.840
they worked hard. Now I'd like
to show you something that I got to

1473
02:08:26.880 --> 02:08:31.960
do last night on my program on
Liberty Conspiracy, and it has to do

1474
02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:35.359
with this guy, Douglas Murray.
I promised the audience that I would discuss

1475
02:08:35.399 --> 02:08:39.479
it. I also mentioned it here
on David Knight's show, and so I'd

1476
02:08:39.560 --> 02:08:43.800
like to give this to you as
I fill in for David Tony rdburn and

1477
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again, please visit Davidknight dot gold
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02:09:03.119 --> 02:09:11.880
more people sign into the wolf Pack
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1482
02:09:11.000 --> 02:09:16.880
the leverage that Tony can have to
buy things at a discount. It's very

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very smart, and he even has
lower shipping than most shippers when you're buying

1484
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silver gold, I mean by easily, you know, by five bucks six

1485
02:09:26.199 --> 02:09:31.800
bucks per package. It's amazing.
I want to turn to what I got

1486
02:09:31.800 --> 02:09:37.199
to do last night on Liberty Conspiracy, which is analyzed this idea of collateral

1487
02:09:37.279 --> 02:09:48.199
damage. Well, it's just war
and overlooking many important points about the relationship

1488
02:09:48.319 --> 02:09:54.359
between Western powers, putting the state
of Israel. There the difference between being

1489
02:09:54.520 --> 02:10:03.319
anti state and anti Semitic. Palestinians
are Semitic peoples, Hasidic Jews in New

1490
02:10:03.399 --> 02:10:07.079
York. As I mentioned, Jerry
Nadler, of all people is mentioning,

1491
02:10:07.279 --> 02:10:11.159
Uh, maybe in the United States, you don't want to put forward a

1492
02:10:11.199 --> 02:10:18.439
resolution that says being anti Zionist,
opposed to state policies is being anti Semitic.

1493
02:10:22.319 --> 02:10:26.239
And if one is going to do
that, then of course one is

1494
02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:35.119
going to tie all these civilians who
might not even agree with Israeli policies in

1495
02:10:35.159 --> 02:10:41.159
the same way that many of the
people who like the Times Square Bomber associate

1496
02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:46.520
US policies with the civilians, because
so many Americans buy into the same canard

1497
02:10:46.840 --> 02:10:50.399
that the government is US. No, it's not especially right now. It's

1498
02:10:50.399 --> 02:10:56.920
a bunch of military industrial complex interests
involved with making tons and tons of money

1499
02:10:56.079 --> 02:11:01.880
as the United States tries to continue
expanding it's bankrupt influence around the world in

1500
02:11:01.920 --> 02:11:07.680
places like Ukraine in the Middle East. So I got to discuss this with

1501
02:11:07.000 --> 02:11:13.239
regard to one aspect of this,
one facet of it, and I tried

1502
02:11:13.279 --> 02:11:18.760
to be as fair as possible.
Douglas Murray appearing against of all people,

1503
02:11:20.039 --> 02:11:22.600
Sank Younger, and I come in
on that story that I just mentioned about

1504
02:11:22.640 --> 02:11:28.119
net Yahoo absorbing the Palestinians. This
is from last night's Liberty Conspiracy show.

1505
02:11:28.560 --> 02:11:35.399
Side of those people there, the
partial genocide of those people there and moving

1506
02:11:35.399 --> 02:11:39.640
the rest of them out, or
the genocide of them and the subjugation of

1507
02:11:39.680 --> 02:11:43.439
all the rest as Israel moves in
and takes over. Net Yahoo said the

1508
02:11:43.439 --> 02:11:50.239
world is quote already discussing the possibilities
of voluntary immigration, and pointed to comments

1509
02:11:50.279 --> 02:11:56.680
from former US Ambassador to the UN
Nikki Haley, who is currently running for

1510
02:11:56.760 --> 02:12:03.000
the twenty twenty four Republican presidential nomination. I think she's running on. Isn't

1511
02:12:03.000 --> 02:12:07.399
her platform give Lockheed more money?
I think that was her platform. Netanyahu

1512
02:12:07.479 --> 02:12:11.399
said that a team must be set
up to quote ensure that those who want

1513
02:12:11.439 --> 02:12:16.479
to leave Gaza to a third country, because who wouldn't want to leave Gaza?

1514
02:12:16.399 --> 02:12:22.439
Now that, of course Israel is
making a death zone that they'd be

1515
02:12:22.119 --> 02:12:26.079
allowed to do. So it needs
to be settled. Oh, I see,

1516
02:12:26.079 --> 02:12:30.760
So everybody else has a responsibility to
settle the problem you're freaking creating.

1517
02:12:30.960 --> 02:12:33.760
I get it, I get it. Benjamin that's classic. As you say,

1518
02:12:33.840 --> 02:12:39.199
of course right here from December twenty
sixth, expanding operations in Gaza,

1519
02:12:39.880 --> 02:12:43.920
there will not be a square edge
of that place that is not under Israeli

1520
02:12:43.960 --> 02:12:46.479
control when this is done, and
Joe Biden is supporting it, Well,

1521
02:12:46.479 --> 02:12:50.439
you know, we've got rules,
Jack Kirby, We've got rules in the

1522
02:12:50.520 --> 02:12:54.880
way things are supposed to operate.
Yeah, they've broken the rules over and

1523
02:12:54.920 --> 02:12:56.439
over again. They're not abiding by
your rules, and you keep giving them

1524
02:12:56.439 --> 02:13:00.000
weapons. Are you going to stop? Well, you know, we've got

1525
02:13:00.199 --> 02:13:03.439
some rules, so they should abide
by those things as we keep giving them

1526
02:13:03.439 --> 02:13:05.880
all the weapons. That's kind of
not an answer there, John, Oh

1527
02:13:07.560 --> 02:13:15.119
gee, you're right, I get
it. Now let's turn to this Piers

1528
02:13:15.199 --> 02:13:22.640
Morgan, Douglas Murray and Piers Morgan
and Sink younger sink Ouger. Now I

1529
02:13:22.720 --> 02:13:28.439
have been critical of Sink. I
don't agree with most every position of this

1530
02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:35.760
man. However, his points are
valid, his points are well stated,

1531
02:13:37.159 --> 02:13:41.880
and for a long time he holds
his temper as he is assailed personally.

1532
02:13:43.279 --> 02:13:48.119
His character is assailed over and over
and over again. Now I've questioned his

1533
02:13:48.239 --> 02:13:52.520
character by going by the name the
Young Turks and the Armenian genocide and things

1534
02:13:52.560 --> 02:13:58.640
like that, right, and I
don't like his collectivist philosophy. I believe

1535
02:13:58.680 --> 02:14:01.239
that sometimes he is a show.
I don't know whether he's got CIA money

1536
02:14:01.279 --> 02:14:05.279
whatever, I don't know. I
do believe he got a lot of money

1537
02:14:05.319 --> 02:14:09.199
from Soros. I think that was
the case, and I think they blew

1538
02:14:09.239 --> 02:14:11.520
through a lot of that money.
I'll tell you who I do admire.

1539
02:14:11.640 --> 02:14:18.000
Who's no longer with Young Turks.
That's Jimmy Dore. Jimmy Dor I think

1540
02:14:18.039 --> 02:14:22.279
still talks with Sank, but he
doesn't doesn't. I don't think he got

1541
02:14:22.319 --> 02:14:24.640
along with them for numerous reasons.
So he left, started his own thing,

1542
02:14:24.760 --> 02:14:28.520
stand up comic, and has been
remarkable on the peace front, talking

1543
02:14:28.520 --> 02:14:33.039
about the Jabs, got damaged by
one of the Jabs, talking about Ukraine,

1544
02:14:33.079 --> 02:14:35.720
talking about Israel, Hamas getting some
of the best people on you could

1545
02:14:35.760 --> 02:14:43.159
ever imagine, just outstanding. I
mean we're talking Glenn Greenwald level analysis of

1546
02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:46.720
the news resources, calling in good
people to report, just excellent. That's

1547
02:14:46.760 --> 02:14:52.399
where I discovered Max Blumenthal. So
many great people, right, Russell Brand

1548
02:14:52.479 --> 02:14:56.319
doing the same thing right. So
I do want to hand it to Sank

1549
02:14:56.359 --> 02:15:01.920
young younger Ouger for holding it together
here, for and providing information as he

1550
02:15:03.119 --> 02:15:09.119
was assailed by Douglas Murray and Douglas
Murray's wonderful flourishes of the English language and

1551
02:15:09.199 --> 02:15:16.680
his his spiteful approach here and also
early on as he got interrupted while Douglas

1552
02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:22.920
Murray was not interrupted in the beginning
of this What is it an uncensored show?

1553
02:15:24.399 --> 02:15:28.399
The Uncensored Show with Piers Morgan.
Okay, so this is a British

1554
02:15:28.439 --> 02:15:35.079
show. Pierce has a sketchy background
himself. We know that, and you

1555
02:15:35.119 --> 02:15:37.119
know he loves to get his attention. He's been through good, he's been

1556
02:15:37.159 --> 02:15:41.920
through bad. He has positives,
he has negatives. So he mismanaged a

1557
02:15:41.960 --> 02:15:46.239
few things at the start. Did
a little better. Let's check this out,

1558
02:15:46.239 --> 02:15:48.439
everybody. We're gonna pause this.
I want to go through some of

1559
02:15:48.479 --> 02:15:52.800
these points here and again. Let's
check this out. Watch this. Here

1560
02:15:52.800 --> 02:15:58.439
we go Douglas Murray and Jenkie Hugar
on bitly opposing sides of a debate on

1561
02:15:58.520 --> 02:16:03.439
Israel's Warren Gaza. Millions have watched
them passionately articulate their cases on this show,

1562
02:16:03.800 --> 02:16:05.920
but never together. So tonight,
on our final show of the year,

1563
02:16:07.239 --> 02:16:11.960
we've provided these two big brains to
debate the big outstanding questions on this

1564
02:16:11.119 --> 02:16:16.800
conflict, and as the war end, will Israel faced with percussions for scale

1565
02:16:16.800 --> 02:16:20.159
of its response to October the seventh, as it committed war crimes. What

1566
02:16:20.279 --> 02:16:24.079
is the future if any, for
Hamas, for Gaza, and for the

1567
02:16:24.079 --> 02:16:30.199
prospects of a true Palestinian state?
Most importantly, how do we get to

1568
02:16:30.279 --> 02:16:33.239
peace? Well, I'm now joined
by the author of the War on the

1569
02:16:33.239 --> 02:16:35.760
West, done this Murray, and
by Young Turns founder and Democratic presidential challenger

1570
02:16:37.079 --> 02:16:39.799
Jenk. You go, welcome to
both of these. So I've interviewed you

1571
02:16:39.840 --> 02:16:43.600
both a lot in this war,
but not together. And Jenk, I

1572
02:16:43.600 --> 02:16:46.600
know you felt the other night when
you were debating other people didn't really get

1573
02:16:46.600 --> 02:16:50.719
into a debate. And I think
that's fair enough. And what I'd like

1574
02:16:50.799 --> 02:16:54.280
today really is to be almost a
referee, if you're right between you two,

1575
02:16:54.360 --> 02:16:56.920
to articulate your views and to see
if we can reach any points of

1576
02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:01.719
consensus. So in that spirit,
let me start with you, Douglas.

1577
02:17:01.799 --> 02:17:07.319
And I think you're back in Israel, Is that right? Yes? I

1578
02:17:07.319 --> 02:17:11.000
mean Israel tonight? Yeah, today
it was a sea of other stories have

1579
02:17:11.040 --> 02:17:15.559
come out of the last few days
which have been concerning I think for anyone

1580
02:17:15.559 --> 02:17:20.680
who like me believes that Israel has
not just a moral duty to defend itself,

1581
02:17:20.719 --> 02:17:24.440
but has a fundamental right to do
so, after what has over the

1582
02:17:24.440 --> 02:17:28.840
seventh and I said that clearly from
the start, It's always been for me

1583
02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:33.600
the issue of proportionality. All right, I want to pause it there,

1584
02:17:33.639 --> 02:17:39.360
everybody, and just mention once more, there is no Israel in an anthropomorphic

1585
02:17:39.479 --> 02:17:48.680
sense. Israel, the state the
police has no rights. The individuals have

1586
02:17:48.879 --> 02:17:54.920
rights to defend themselves and voluntarily come
up with their own arrangements for protection.

1587
02:17:54.520 --> 02:17:58.559
This is just basic, axiomatic,
fundamental philosophy. You can't get around this.

1588
02:18:01.159 --> 02:18:05.200
A state has no rights. State
only exists by crushing the rights of

1589
02:18:05.239 --> 02:18:11.079
the people from whom it takes the
money, thereby inpinging their ability to defend

1590
02:18:11.120 --> 02:18:16.799
themselves and dictating that their defense will
then be blended in and argued about,

1591
02:18:18.079 --> 02:18:22.440
rather than them making their own decisions. And they use the excuse of well,

1592
02:18:22.040 --> 02:18:26.159
you've got to be preyed upon in
order to defend everybody. Just like

1593
02:18:26.200 --> 02:18:31.520
we talk about with public health,
your rights can be sacrificed for the larger

1594
02:18:31.559 --> 02:18:39.319
majority, which means every individual can
be sacrificed for their determination of the larger

1595
02:18:39.319 --> 02:18:41.559
majority within the state. Whoever can
get the power of the state. That's

1596
02:18:41.559 --> 02:18:46.559
why everybody wants to get power of
the state. The very existence of the

1597
02:18:46.559 --> 02:18:54.559
state of Israel is an affront to
freedom. No state has a right to

1598
02:18:54.639 --> 02:19:00.760
defend itsself. Just keep that in
mind. And by the way, any

1599
02:19:00.799 --> 02:19:05.440
of the soldiers who are out there
using weapons that were provided to them by

1600
02:19:05.520 --> 02:19:09.920
a tax money, they don't have
a right to use those weapons either.

1601
02:19:11.280 --> 02:19:16.040
They have a right to defend themselves
personally. But if they're sent out with

1602
02:19:16.200 --> 02:19:20.479
fuel or food or clothing or anything
that was gotten through the criminal means of

1603
02:19:20.639 --> 02:19:26.799
thievery from individuals forced to pay for
it, that's immoral. They shouldn't have

1604
02:19:26.879 --> 02:19:28.799
those things. They have no right
to use them in any way whatsoever.

1605
02:19:28.840 --> 02:19:33.159
They are the receivers of stolen goods, period. You can't argue about it.

1606
02:19:33.760 --> 02:19:39.120
They are. Just because the state
might acquiesce to giving them something doesn't

1607
02:19:39.159 --> 02:19:45.239
mean that it's okay, that it's
acceptable. Here's more, and here's Morgan

1608
02:19:45.319 --> 02:19:48.120
is making a good point. It's
the level of response here as far as

1609
02:19:48.440 --> 02:19:56.000
from their viewpoint, state versus hamas
state, something Douglas Murray doesn't seem to

1610
02:19:56.040 --> 02:20:01.399
remember about the origins of Hamas becoming
the leadership state. And it seems that

1611
02:20:01.479 --> 02:20:05.000
in the last few days there's been
a number of incidents which really question whether

1612
02:20:05.280 --> 02:20:11.040
Israel is being precise as it says
it is or indiscriminate. And I would

1613
02:20:11.040 --> 02:20:16.120
cite the killing of the three hostages. I would cite the killing of the

1614
02:20:16.159 --> 02:20:18.520
two women outside the Catholic church.
I would cite the President of the United

1615
02:20:18.559 --> 02:20:24.559
States saying that they're using indiscriminate bombing
and so on. Do you, Douglas,

1616
02:20:24.639 --> 02:20:31.799
notwithstanding your full throttle support of Israel, does anything that's been happening make

1617
02:20:31.879 --> 02:20:37.479
you think Israel needs to execute this
war differently? No? And I think

1618
02:20:37.479 --> 02:20:41.920
that most of the people who think
they know how to execute this war have

1619
02:20:41.000 --> 02:20:43.879
never executed a war. And did
most people who think they know how the

1620
02:20:43.920 --> 02:20:48.719
idea should be running this conflict have
never been near a conflict. I mean

1621
02:20:48.840 --> 02:20:50.840
Israel. Tonight, I was in
Gaza again. Okay, so let's pause

1622
02:20:50.879 --> 02:20:56.760
it there again as that eat my
jelly beans. No, and I think

1623
02:20:56.799 --> 02:21:01.360
anyone who disagrees with me has no
concept of the way works. So,

1624
02:21:01.520 --> 02:21:07.399
in other words, contrary to every
tradition of freaking warfare going back to medieval

1625
02:21:07.479 --> 02:21:16.280
days, mister British Douglas Murray,
where you don't kill civilians and you don't

1626
02:21:16.600 --> 02:21:26.280
take hostages. You're claiming that in
order to take out Hamas, you think

1627
02:21:26.280 --> 02:21:33.520
it's okay to go completely opposite of
the rules of war. And many of

1628
02:21:33.520 --> 02:21:37.120
those are inside the Geneva conventions.
But this great journalist doesn't seem to bring

1629
02:21:37.159 --> 02:21:41.799
that up. Sorry, Douglas,
I know I said I wasn't going to

1630
02:21:41.840 --> 02:21:46.120
get intents. I'll get a little
intense, just a softerminder, Douglas,

1631
02:21:46.120 --> 02:21:52.000
A softer minder. We'll continue and
yesterday. And the examples that you give,

1632
02:21:52.159 --> 02:21:54.920
by the way, Pears, I
don't see why they show any need

1633
02:21:56.000 --> 02:21:58.280
to prosecute the war itself. Differently, I mean, just to take one

1634
02:21:58.319 --> 02:22:03.840
of them. The first example you
give the absolutely tragic, awful shooting of

1635
02:22:03.879 --> 02:22:07.959
these three hostages as they were coming
out. But you know, some of

1636
02:22:09.040 --> 02:22:11.040
the spin that's been put on that
in the world, apart from the glee

1637
02:22:11.040 --> 02:22:16.479
of course of Isabel's enemies, can't
help expressing some of the spin on that

1638
02:22:16.639 --> 02:22:18.479
is almost as if it shows the
idea, if it's a sort of so

1639
02:22:18.680 --> 02:22:24.920
brutal that it even kills Hamaz hostages
who are Israeli. I just think this

1640
02:22:24.959 --> 02:22:28.280
is another example of the international media
and others just having this astounding lack of

1641
02:22:28.319 --> 02:22:33.799
empathy for the Israeli people. Can
you imagine what it was like for those

1642
02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:37.520
soldiers who are in Gaza, knowing
that at any point there are snipers,

1643
02:22:37.639 --> 02:22:45.079
there are booby traps everywhere, people
coming out of tunnels they've built at British

1644
02:22:45.079 --> 02:22:48.000
and American taxpayer expenses and attacking them. Can you imagine what it was like

1645
02:22:48.079 --> 02:22:54.920
for the soldiers who, in that
terrible moment, made the life changing mistake

1646
02:22:56.520 --> 02:23:01.079
of shooting three people who turned out
to be Hamas hostages. Why would they

1647
02:23:01.639 --> 02:23:07.600
on that? Why would they shoot
anyone who was shirtless and waiving an SOS

1648
02:23:09.040 --> 02:23:13.559
flag? I mean, why would
whoever they were hostages or whether they thought

1649
02:23:13.559 --> 02:23:18.639
they were Palestinians, why would anyone
shoot anyone who comes out like that?

1650
02:23:18.639 --> 02:23:22.440
That's my point. That'll that'll be
a matter for the inquiry into it.

1651
02:23:22.639 --> 02:23:26.799
But look, it's hardly as if
they'd have wanted to have done that.

1652
02:23:28.280 --> 02:23:31.920
What this demonstrates is, in this
incredibly close conflict, in a heavily built

1653
02:23:31.959 --> 02:23:37.520
up area, people coming out from
all sides, firing, shooting, detonating.

1654
02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:41.479
People make mistakes, of course they
do. That's just a human reality

1655
02:23:41.520 --> 02:23:45.840
of war. Horrible as it is, I don't think it shows in any

1656
02:23:45.879 --> 02:23:48.799
way that Israel is prosecuting this war
wrongly. As for the main issue of

1657
02:23:48.799 --> 02:23:52.440
the war, the main issue of
the war is to destroy him As.

1658
02:23:52.840 --> 02:23:56.520
No Israeli have left or right or
center believes anymore are for October seventh.

1659
02:23:56.600 --> 02:24:03.159
They can live beside her mass As
has been given the statement of Gaza.

1660
02:24:03.280 --> 02:24:05.440
It's given it in two thousand and
six, voted in, then killed their

1661
02:24:05.440 --> 02:24:11.280
fellow Palestinians in a coup, killed
Fatah rivals, and they've run all right.

1662
02:24:11.319 --> 02:24:18.120
So let's pause it right there again. Douglas Murray never mentions during this

1663
02:24:18.280 --> 02:24:26.399
twenty two almost twenty three minute exchange
that Benjamin Netanyaho himself and the government of

1664
02:24:26.399 --> 02:24:33.079
the United States supported Hamas, and
in particular net Ya, who on record

1665
02:24:33.200 --> 02:24:39.280
more than once said that it was
important to support Hamas because they would not

1666
02:24:39.520 --> 02:24:43.799
negotiate, and then they would be
an oppositional force. Rather than negotiating.

1667
02:24:45.200 --> 02:24:50.559
They would want to make sure that
Israel wouldn't expand anymore, and that by

1668
02:24:50.959 --> 02:24:56.079
having the oppositional force in there,
they could then say that they weren't negotiating

1669
02:24:56.120 --> 02:25:01.639
with Hamas wasn't open to them,
they were cold, they were death to

1670
02:25:01.680 --> 02:25:07.440
their entreaties, and therefore they had
to take violent action against Hamas. He

1671
02:25:07.600 --> 02:25:13.040
set it up for more violence.
Literally, you can extrapolate that logic and

1672
02:25:13.200 --> 02:25:20.959
know you can know that Benjamin net
Yahoo and his supporters knowingly tried to put

1673
02:25:22.000 --> 02:25:28.040
Hamas in aware of the fact that
they were increasing the risk of innocent Israelis

1674
02:25:28.079 --> 02:25:35.959
getting killed by Hamas by more tit
for tat fighting rather than negotiation. He

1675
02:25:35.479 --> 02:25:41.120
took that role. He pushed that. The United States government pushed it.

1676
02:25:41.680 --> 02:25:48.319
The United States government again is not
calling for the extradition of the leaders of

1677
02:25:48.319 --> 02:25:54.559
Hamas from Cutter. What's going on
there, I don't understand, And I'm

1678
02:25:54.559 --> 02:25:58.559
going to go back a little bit. I was considering as this was rolling,

1679
02:25:58.559 --> 02:26:01.879
I was like, I just want
to let Sank make his points,

1680
02:26:01.040 --> 02:26:03.959
But I do think it's important for
me to bring up a couple other points.

1681
02:26:05.120 --> 02:26:09.120
If we go back to about three
point fifty here three thirty. Let

1682
02:26:09.120 --> 02:26:13.280
me go back to about three thirty
in this Listen to what he says here

1683
02:26:13.879 --> 02:26:18.719
go back to about three twenty.
What he says, here's everywhere people coming

1684
02:26:18.760 --> 02:26:22.520
out of tunnels. They've been booby
traps everywhere, people coming out of tunnels.

1685
02:26:22.559 --> 02:26:28.399
That's the first point, logically speaking, If this place is so densely

1686
02:26:28.440 --> 02:26:33.399
populated as we have heard that it
is, which it is five miles by

1687
02:26:33.399 --> 02:26:37.520
twenty five miles, as as the
Israelis have continued year after year, decade

1688
02:26:37.559 --> 02:26:41.680
after decade, encroaching and croaching,
whether it's through military occupation, whatever it

1689
02:26:41.760 --> 02:26:48.920
is, bulldozing old homes, raising
up the new districts for Israelis, right,

1690
02:26:48.799 --> 02:26:54.120
all those things. First of all, if they're like that, how

1691
02:26:54.120 --> 02:27:03.280
could they booby trapped all these places
so quickly and still think that the innocent

1692
02:27:03.319 --> 02:27:07.479
people walking around are going to get
around? How could they function? Did

1693
02:27:07.479 --> 02:27:09.399
they do it that quickly? Could
they make the booby traps that quickly?

1694
02:27:09.559 --> 02:27:15.079
Do they care the Hamas care about
the civilians? I don't know. That's

1695
02:27:15.120 --> 02:27:18.600
just a question as far as the
geographics and the logistics of it. How

1696
02:27:18.639 --> 02:27:24.799
could people move if there were booby
traps everywhere? Right, that's one thing.

1697
02:27:26.680 --> 02:27:33.760
So I question how much booby trapping
the Hamas fighters have been able to

1698
02:27:33.799 --> 02:27:37.559
do I don't know. Maybe they
could get the stuff out there quickly,

1699
02:27:37.840 --> 02:27:41.079
but it couldn't have been around there
all the time. Booby traps all over

1700
02:27:41.079 --> 02:27:46.840
the place. People couldn't function.
What would you do, right If you've

1701
02:27:46.879 --> 02:27:50.840
got IEDs on the streets when it's
civilian time, people will be blowing up

1702
02:27:50.879 --> 02:27:54.319
all over the place. How does
that work? The second thing is if

1703
02:27:54.319 --> 02:27:58.159
they were doing it in preparation,
Well, the Israeli troops have been on

1704
02:27:58.360 --> 02:28:05.639
every streak there manhandling people, taking
people away, women and children, over

1705
02:28:05.680 --> 02:28:11.000
and over again every day. You
saw footage of how they block a guy

1706
02:28:11.440 --> 02:28:13.959
from even allowing his son in law
to come into his house. They have

1707
02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:18.520
a gate in front of the dude's
front steps because he's right on the edge

1708
02:28:18.520 --> 02:28:24.040
of this zone. The Israeli troopers
are all over the place. They're like

1709
02:28:24.079 --> 02:28:30.440
the stormtroopers from Star Wars, so
they don't have the white outfits. So

1710
02:28:30.520 --> 02:28:35.639
if that's the case, is it
possible that a gorilla group under their noses

1711
02:28:35.000 --> 02:28:39.040
could booby trap the whole city so
much and then they don't discover it until

1712
02:28:39.120 --> 02:28:45.079
now that they're going and bombing buildings
everywhere and telling people to evacuate to the

1713
02:28:45.120 --> 02:28:48.879
south which they then bomb again.
None of this this doesn't make any sense.

1714
02:28:50.159 --> 02:28:52.440
And this is a guy who says
he's been on the ground there.

1715
02:28:54.120 --> 02:28:58.360
Of course he's in Israel hanging out
in a hotel. Now, I'm just

1716
02:28:58.399 --> 02:29:03.680
saying that it makes it very different
cult to believe what he's saying if you

1717
02:29:03.760 --> 02:29:07.000
start to logically think about it.
And maybe I'm missing a few things on

1718
02:29:07.040 --> 02:29:13.079
the logical process on this because I
don't know enough about the operations of gorilla

1719
02:29:13.079 --> 02:29:16.639
fighters on the ground. Maybe I
just don't know, but there seems to

1720
02:29:16.680 --> 02:29:22.280
be a problem here for his claim
that there are booby traps everywhere? Is

1721
02:29:22.319 --> 02:29:28.079
that why they got a carpet bomb
everything? Are the booby traps actually unexploded

1722
02:29:28.120 --> 02:29:33.639
IEDs? Are they cluster ammunition that
the United States gave to Israel and Ukraine.

1723
02:29:37.200 --> 02:29:41.440
It's ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. And
the final bit, I want to

1724
02:29:41.479 --> 02:29:43.760
play just this little bit again.
Here we go build a British and American

1725
02:29:43.799 --> 02:29:48.479
taxpayer expenses and attacking them. Can
you imagine what it was like for the

1726
02:29:48.559 --> 02:29:56.159
soldiers who, in that terrible moment, made the life changing mistake of shooting

1727
02:29:56.239 --> 02:30:00.520
three people who turned out to be
Hamaz hostages. Would be on that.

1728
02:30:00.959 --> 02:30:07.520
Why would they shoot anyone who was
shirtless and waiving an SOS flag. I

1729
02:30:07.520 --> 02:30:11.760
mean, why would you heard the
question and you heard his ridiculously fatuous answer.

1730
02:30:13.360 --> 02:30:16.239
Now I want to give you other
information and we'll come back to this

1731
02:30:16.399 --> 02:30:18.399
video in just a minute. You
remember how I said, if you use

1732
02:30:18.479 --> 02:30:22.879
the logic of well, it's just
war, as we saw on CBS news,

1733
02:30:22.879 --> 02:30:26.360
oh yes, these things happen.
No, that's the passive voice.

1734
02:30:26.559 --> 02:30:33.559
People killed other people, agents of
the state who got their weapons off of

1735
02:30:33.639 --> 02:30:37.399
threatening taxpayers to cough up the money
for it and claim that they were getting

1736
02:30:37.440 --> 02:30:43.559
their defense for them. They engaged
in killing innocent civilians who paid the taxes

1737
02:30:43.600 --> 02:30:48.639
to pay for the guns, that
killed themselves. That's the IDF. Of

1738
02:30:48.639 --> 02:30:52.319
course, that's every state if they
turned the guns against their own civilians.

1739
02:30:54.559 --> 02:30:58.159
This case seems to excuse it to
say, well, it's just war.

1740
02:30:58.479 --> 02:31:01.680
Same thing with killing of the civilians
in Gaza. Right, it's just it's

1741
02:31:01.760 --> 02:31:07.280
war. Again. The rules of
war are that you don't kill civilians,

1742
02:31:07.799 --> 02:31:15.879
right, you don't rape women.
Now, gozzans killed civilians. The rape

1743
02:31:15.920 --> 02:31:22.719
accusations a little fuzzy. Not sure
about that stuff. Killing definitely killing after

1744
02:31:22.360 --> 02:31:28.520
Israeli forces killed numerous of them after
they killed after Israeli back back, back

1745
02:31:28.559 --> 02:31:33.879
back in time. Right. Okay, But again the argument is if the

1746
02:31:33.120 --> 02:31:37.799
Israelis can make the argument, well, we're going in to rescue hostages.

1747
02:31:39.600 --> 02:31:41.520
Well, as I said, if
you want a little bit of evidence here,

1748
02:31:41.639 --> 02:31:46.959
let's turn to Al Jazeera just to
make this point plain. I've mentioned

1749
02:31:46.000 --> 02:31:50.200
in a number of times, but
I haven't shown you the information. Jailed

1750
02:31:50.280 --> 02:32:01.159
without charge how Israel holds thousands of
Palestinian prisoners. This from the twenty ninth

1751
02:32:01.159 --> 02:32:09.040
of November twenty twenty three. As
Palestinian prisoners were being released last week,

1752
02:32:09.000 --> 02:32:16.920
Israel imposed a ban on celebrations by
their family members. Oh I don't remember

1753
02:32:16.959 --> 02:32:24.319
Douglas Murray, mentioning that expressions of
joy, National Security Minister Adamar ben Gevir

1754
02:32:24.559 --> 02:32:35.239
said our equivalent of backing terrorism.
Israel has presented imprisoned Palestinians as terrorists and

1755
02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:43.399
has subjected many of the detainees to
abuse. But of the three hundred three

1756
02:32:43.479 --> 02:32:52.040
hundred Palestinian women and children whom Israel
has identified for potential release as part of

1757
02:32:52.079 --> 02:32:58.799
the humanitarian pause between Israel and Hamas, nearly eighty percent were not even for

1758
02:33:00.000 --> 02:33:05.280
normally charged. Like I said,
some have been held over a year,

1759
02:33:07.399 --> 02:33:15.879
not charged, badly mistreated. An
overwhelming majority of Palestinian prisoners were arrested under

1760
02:33:15.920 --> 02:33:24.840
a quasi judicial process known as administrative
detention, under which Palestinians are initially jailed

1761
02:33:24.959 --> 02:33:31.079
for six months. Their detentions can
then be repeatedly extended for an indefinite period

1762
02:33:31.440 --> 02:33:37.360
without charge or trial. Oh,
Barack Obama likes that idea. You wanted

1763
02:33:37.360 --> 02:33:43.000
to do that to us. Most
Palestinians, including children, are tried in

1764
02:33:43.120 --> 02:33:50.559
military courts and handed lengthy sentences in
what critics call sham military trials because in

1765
02:33:50.639 --> 02:33:58.399
many cases, Palestinians are deprived of
defense, lawyers and due process. Douglas,

1766
02:33:58.479 --> 02:34:01.680
what happened to you Western tradition?
You're so proud of England and Britain

1767
02:34:03.159 --> 02:34:07.719
in comparison, Death of the West? Was that the name of your book,

1768
02:34:07.760 --> 02:34:13.479
Douglas, Death of the What?
In comparison? Israeli citizens are tried

1769
02:34:13.520 --> 02:34:18.600
in civil courts, highlighting the two
tier justice system that discriminates against Palestinians.

1770
02:34:18.879 --> 02:34:24.159
Here's a look at the treatment of
Palestinian prisoners, how Israel has weaponized administrative

1771
02:34:24.200 --> 02:34:31.040
detention and why many Palestinians are forced
to go through Israeli military courts. Look

1772
02:34:31.079 --> 02:34:35.879
at that Israel is holding at least
two thousand and seventy Palestinian detainees without being

1773
02:34:35.959 --> 02:34:41.000
charged or allowed to stand trial.
The detainees, including women and children,

1774
02:34:41.200 --> 02:34:48.760
can be held by the military for
renewable periods based on secret evidence that neither

1775
02:34:48.840 --> 02:34:56.840
the detainee nor their lawyer is allowed
to see. It shows you the rise

1776
02:34:56.920 --> 02:35:01.120
towards twenty twenty three. Gee,
I wonder why Hamas might have been getting

1777
02:35:01.159 --> 02:35:05.959
more and more agitated. That doesn't
excuse the violence. It just says,

1778
02:35:07.159 --> 02:35:11.840
hmm, I wonder if there's another
force at work here. Who's on the

1779
02:35:11.879 --> 02:35:16.079
list? The vast majority of the
Palestinians two hundred thirty three prisoners out of

1780
02:35:16.120 --> 02:35:22.079
three hundred on Israel's release list have
not been formally charged and were held as

1781
02:35:22.120 --> 02:35:28.200
administrative detainees. An overwhelming majority of
them are children. The youngest is fourteen,

1782
02:35:28.959 --> 02:35:33.079
who was probably thirteen when he was
brought in. Almost three quarters of

1783
02:35:33.120 --> 02:35:39.159
them are from the occupied West Bank, which has seen a surge of arrests

1784
02:35:39.360 --> 02:35:43.719
since the start of Israel's war on
Gaza on October seventh. The West Bank

1785
02:35:43.760 --> 02:35:50.000
and occupied East Jerusalem had already seen
a spike in Israeli raids this year even

1786
02:35:50.079 --> 02:35:54.520
before the war. The longest serving
prisoner among the three hundred has been held

1787
02:35:54.760 --> 02:36:01.639
for one hundred and two months or
eight and a half years. Well,

1788
02:36:01.520 --> 02:36:03.920
I just send it to Guantanamo.
I might want to change the scenery and

1789
02:36:03.959 --> 02:36:07.479
then you know, Ron DeSantis can
come visit and then later say I didn't

1790
02:36:07.520 --> 02:36:13.280
see a thing. I know nothing. Let's get back to Douglas Murray and

1791
02:36:13.399 --> 02:36:20.879
let's sink offer us more information.
I hope this is valuable for you.

1792
02:36:20.959 --> 02:36:24.760
I hope it's providing you something.
Whoever they were, it's ready hostage,

1793
02:36:24.959 --> 02:36:28.920
whether they thought they were Palestinians.
Why would anyone sure shoot anyone who comes

1794
02:36:28.920 --> 02:36:33.159
out like that. That's my point. So again I'll just make that point.

1795
02:36:33.200 --> 02:36:37.760
If the Israelis can make the claim
that they can kill innocent people because

1796
02:36:37.760 --> 02:36:41.079
they're rescuing hostages, this is you
got to make sure that I make this

1797
02:36:41.159 --> 02:36:45.120
point. This is a very very
important point. I want to reiterate it.

1798
02:36:45.239 --> 02:36:48.600
I've done it a few times.
If the Israelis can make that argument,

1799
02:36:48.799 --> 02:36:54.040
then Hamas can make the equal argument
looking at what the Israelis have done,

1800
02:36:54.239 --> 02:36:58.639
holding those people hostage that way with
no trial whatsoever, easily easily make

1801
02:36:58.680 --> 02:37:05.360
that our does Douglas Murray even acknowledge
that. No, that'll be a matter

1802
02:37:05.440 --> 02:37:09.120
for the inquiry into it. But
you know, look, it's hardly as

1803
02:37:09.159 --> 02:37:13.959
if they'd have wanted to have done
that. What this demonstrates is in this

1804
02:37:13.120 --> 02:37:18.799
incredibly close conflict, in a heavily
built up area, for people coming out

1805
02:37:18.879 --> 02:37:24.120
from all sides, firing, shooting, detonating, people make mistakes. Of

1806
02:37:24.120 --> 02:37:26.879
course they do. That's just a
human reality of war. Horrible as it

1807
02:37:26.959 --> 02:37:31.639
is, I don't think it shows
in any way that Israel is prosecuting this

1808
02:37:31.760 --> 02:37:33.719
war wrongly. As for the main
issue of the war, the main issue

1809
02:37:33.760 --> 02:37:37.879
of the war is to destroy Himaz. No Israeli have left or right or

1810
02:37:37.959 --> 02:37:43.639
center believes anymore. After October seventh, they can live beside herms Hajamaz has

1811
02:37:43.760 --> 02:37:48.040
been given the statelet of Gaza.
It's given it in two thousand and six,

1812
02:37:48.200 --> 02:37:52.360
voted in, then killed their fellow
Palestinians in a coup, killed Fatah

1813
02:37:52.559 --> 02:37:58.840
rivals, and they've run the Gaza
for almost eighteen years now, and they've

1814
02:37:58.840 --> 02:38:03.479
produced the new general generation of people
whose main aim in life it seems,

1815
02:38:03.520 --> 02:38:07.600
according to their textbooks and their classes, is to regard Jews as enemies who

1816
02:38:07.600 --> 02:38:11.879
should be killed. This is just
an unbelievable waste, a waste of life

1817
02:38:11.879 --> 02:38:16.000
on every side, but apart from
anything else, a waste of those Palestinian

1818
02:38:16.040 --> 02:38:18.760
lives of children who grew up under
Hamas's rule, if you can call it

1819
02:38:18.840 --> 02:38:26.760
that, who have been indoctrinated into
becoming sociopaths by a psychopathic terror organization Hamaz

1820
02:38:28.000 --> 02:38:33.360
okay, So let's pause it there
again. He says they've been indoctrinated into

1821
02:38:33.399 --> 02:38:39.239
becoming psychopathic. Let me just ask
you again, as you know, they

1822
02:38:39.280 --> 02:38:45.520
can't come and go from that place. They can't just enter and leave,

1823
02:38:46.440 --> 02:38:52.879
as we saw Aaron Mante's father mentioned, and also Norman Finkelstein mentioned, many

1824
02:38:52.879 --> 02:38:56.840
of those people who have lived there, if they're under twenty, they have

1825
02:38:56.959 --> 02:39:03.559
never been outside those gates. Claim
that it's Homosa's fault that these people are

1826
02:39:03.600 --> 02:39:11.319
somehow getting hypnotized and brainwashed to dislike
the Israelis that have corralled them and held

1827
02:39:11.360 --> 02:39:16.879
them in and continued to press in
on them. That defies any sort of

1828
02:39:16.879 --> 02:39:24.760
believability. Oh oh, they would
love is the Israel otherwise it's those terrible

1829
02:39:24.840 --> 02:39:28.440
leaders in Hamas that Benjamin de Yeah, I wanted to make sure we're still

1830
02:39:28.440 --> 02:39:35.520
in there, that the US government
gave money to, you know, to

1831
02:39:35.639 --> 02:39:41.959
leave a preposition dangling again, logical
inconsistency, evidentiary, very very strained,

1832
02:39:41.360 --> 02:39:46.360
really really bad. All right,
Jick, you've been listening to that.

1833
02:39:48.120 --> 02:39:52.040
Is there anything that Douglas said that
you agree with? No, nothing,

1834
02:39:52.239 --> 02:39:56.879
not even about the way the Massas
has presided over Gaza in the last eighteen

1835
02:39:56.959 --> 02:40:01.639
years. Yeah. So that's a
weapon of mass distraction. It's Israel doing

1836
02:40:01.680 --> 02:40:09.600
genocide on the Palestinians right now.
And there's idea of soldiers singing and in

1837
02:40:09.760 --> 02:40:13.000
video that the IDF has confirmed about
how they're going to wipe out the seat

1838
02:40:13.040 --> 02:40:18.079
of Amalik. That is a verse
in the Old Hebrew Bible that talks about

1839
02:40:18.120 --> 02:40:24.239
exterminating Almalik. So they're talking about
genocide against Palestinians. Benjamin Netania, who

1840
02:40:24.319 --> 02:40:31.639
has also talked about wiping out Amalik. These are open calls for genocide.

1841
02:40:33.040 --> 02:40:37.000
What I find stunning, you know, douglas mention is stunning lack of empathy.

1842
02:40:37.319 --> 02:40:41.239
There's twenty thousand dead people in Palestine
right now, in Gaza. Over

1843
02:40:41.280 --> 02:40:46.719
eight thousand of them are children.
When thirty six Israeli children were killed by

1844
02:40:46.799 --> 02:40:52.879
Hamas, the world cried out and
I was broken hearted over it, thirty

1845
02:40:52.920 --> 02:40:58.719
six poor kids dead in Israel.
Now there's over eight thousand dead kids in

1846
02:40:58.799 --> 02:41:03.959
God. You want to talk about
a stunning lack of empathy, six four

1847
02:41:05.079 --> 02:41:11.879
hundred women slaughtered in Gaza. You
want to talk about terrorism, They're dropping

1848
02:41:11.120 --> 02:41:16.879
unguided bombs, two thousand pound bombs. Every one of those bombs is an

1849
02:41:18.040 --> 02:41:24.200
act of terrorism, and the stunning
lack of empathy towards Palestinian lives is disgusting.

1850
02:41:24.520 --> 02:41:28.600
But I want to be clear it
is not shared by all Israelis.

1851
02:41:28.879 --> 02:41:33.040
The dad of one of the hostages
who was killed went on Israeli television and

1852
02:41:33.079 --> 02:41:37.000
said stop killing them, and he
didn't mean the hostages, he meant the

1853
02:41:37.000 --> 02:41:41.440
Palestinians. I was jumping. But
before I go back to Dunas, resp

1854
02:41:43.680 --> 02:41:46.680
yeah, I will let you reported
that on this issue of genocide. Do

1855
02:41:46.719 --> 02:41:52.280
you accept a massive whole raise on
debts when it comes to israel Is genocide.

1856
02:41:52.319 --> 02:41:56.840
They want to eradicate Israel and kill
as many Jews as they can,

1857
02:41:56.879 --> 02:42:01.879
and there'd be no secretive things.
Yeah, so this is really important.

1858
02:42:01.200 --> 02:42:05.719
So I have no sympathy for Hamas, so I am not interested in defending

1859
02:42:05.760 --> 02:42:11.079
Hamas. I think that's nothing but
a distraction because right now they're not fighting

1860
02:42:11.120 --> 02:42:18.479
Hamas, they're just killing Palestinians barely. No, no, wait a minute,

1861
02:42:18.840 --> 02:42:22.440
barely. But let's go to your
main point. Okay. So the

1862
02:42:22.479 --> 02:42:26.559
main point is, well, Hamas
threatens X, Y, and z and

1863
02:42:26.719 --> 02:42:30.840
has killed twelve hundred people on October
seven. So that is why we have

1864
02:42:30.920 --> 02:42:35.879
to all worry about what Hammas might
might might might do. Hold on,

1865
02:42:37.520 --> 02:42:41.959
let they finish the point. Let
me finish the point at what they might

1866
02:42:43.120 --> 02:42:46.040
might might do if they had infinite
power, the kind of power that Israel

1867
02:42:46.079 --> 02:42:52.239
has. Meanwhile, Israel is actually
doing the genocide, is actually preventing a

1868
02:42:52.360 --> 02:42:54.920
Palestinian state, as saying you are
not allowed to exist, and if you

1869
02:42:56.120 --> 02:43:00.600
dare try to exist, we'll kill
it. If you're children and women,

1870
02:43:00.760 --> 02:43:05.520
all right, Douglas respond to that
several things. First of all, anyone

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02:43:05.520 --> 02:43:09.479
who uses the term genocide in this
context simply doesn't know what they're talking about.

1872
02:43:09.520 --> 02:43:13.079
A wisdom, a levelent actor.
I don't know if mister Week has

1873
02:43:13.120 --> 02:43:16.239
traveled at all in his life,
how far he's traveled, how many conflicts

1874
02:43:16.280 --> 02:43:20.399
he's seen, But I'd have guessed
none. And you clearly know nothing about

1875
02:43:20.399 --> 02:43:24.959
this particular conflict, and you've obviously
seen none of it. The genocide that

1876
02:43:24.000 --> 02:43:30.639
you describe is such a smear and
a libel against the Jewish state. If

1877
02:43:31.159 --> 02:43:33.520
Israel wanted to commit genocide, I'm
sure it could, but it doesn't.

1878
02:43:33.600 --> 02:43:39.079
It doesn't remotely want to. And
people like you and other pro Palestinian propagandists

1879
02:43:39.159 --> 02:43:43.840
have spent years claiming that Israel as
committing genocide in the gas And by the

1880
02:43:43.840 --> 02:43:46.159
way, the weirdest thing about this
claim is that the population of the gas

1881
02:43:46.200 --> 02:43:50.719
that has grown by a million in
the last fifteen or so years. So

1882
02:43:52.799 --> 02:43:56.959
I just had to posit there,
everybody, because when you hear him say

1883
02:43:56.040 --> 02:44:03.799
the population has grown, that's a
total non non factor that has nothing to

1884
02:44:03.840 --> 02:44:09.200
do with it. It doesn't say
how much more would have grown the what

1885
02:44:09.239 --> 02:44:13.239
the slaughter rate and the arrest rate
was due to the IDF, the so

1886
02:44:13.280 --> 02:44:20.639
called Israeli Defense Forces and over on
Rumble Geesebusters makes a great point IDF equals

1887
02:44:20.639 --> 02:44:28.920
IOF israel Offensive forces and Risha m. Says, Oh, Birdhouse says yeah.

1888
02:44:28.000 --> 02:44:33.479
Risha em says watched another short documentary
on ex female IDF saying how they

1889
02:44:33.520 --> 02:44:39.479
would put cigarettes out on kids,
shoot kids, take pics of the dead

1890
02:44:39.520 --> 02:44:43.600
bodies. Just awful stuff. Yes, some people are speaking out, very

1891
02:44:43.799 --> 02:44:50.440
very good stuff, very important.
Taylor Saunders in Rockfin says Douglas is an

1892
02:44:50.479 --> 02:44:56.959
idiot and has issues. His eye
movements indicate he has a psychopathic He is

1893
02:44:56.000 --> 02:45:03.799
a psychopathic fool. Well, I
certainly think that by his statements, he

1894
02:45:03.920 --> 02:45:09.440
seems to be much more inclined in
absolving people of aggressive actions by using terms

1895
02:45:09.479 --> 02:45:13.920
like well, it's war and then
just ending it there. He also seems

1896
02:45:15.079 --> 02:45:22.079
very inclined to insult the people rather
than the statements which sank Younger actually was

1897
02:45:22.120 --> 02:45:26.639
talking about the statements and the lack
of empathy. And I also will point

1898
02:45:26.680 --> 02:45:31.360
out that Piers Morgan allowed Douglas Murray
to speak a lot more and gave him

1899
02:45:31.440 --> 02:45:35.440
much softer. Although he did bring
back some good points, he didn't interrupt

1900
02:45:35.520 --> 02:45:39.440
and start arguing the way that he
was arguing with sank very very quickly.

1901
02:45:39.760 --> 02:45:41.879
But we'll continue here we go.
So, if Israel was trying to carry

1902
02:45:41.879 --> 02:45:48.000
out of genocide. It's either the
worst perpetrator of genocide ever or uniquely poor

1903
02:45:48.079 --> 02:45:52.280
at performing that task. None of
the stats support that ridiculous claim. It's

1904
02:45:52.280 --> 02:45:54.840
such a weird smear and the libel
of Israel. Secondly, of course,

1905
02:45:54.840 --> 02:45:58.159
you've just raffled off Hama's figures,
as every one of your kind always does.

1906
02:45:58.440 --> 02:46:03.079
Thirdly, said that the world a
world cried you said, You said

1907
02:46:03.120 --> 02:46:07.000
that the people like you who cover
for the Palestinian extremists. Thirdly, you

1908
02:46:07.040 --> 02:46:11.680
said that the world cried out for
the thirty six is really dead children.

1909
02:46:11.959 --> 02:46:15.719
No, they didn't, and you
know that very well. You know that

1910
02:46:15.959 --> 02:46:20.559
very well. If you put up
a poster to a missing dog in any

1911
02:46:20.600 --> 02:46:26.159
Western city, that poster stays up
in city after city. In America,

1912
02:46:26.520 --> 02:46:31.200
posters of abducted Jewish children, including
a ten month year old baby, were

1913
02:46:31.239 --> 02:46:35.079
put up and were ripped down by
people who have been indoctrinated into hate of

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02:46:35.200 --> 02:46:39.479
Jews. Nobody would rip down the
poster of a missing dog, But from

1915
02:46:39.639 --> 02:46:46.520
Dublin to Berkeley, they ripped down
posters of abducted Jewish children. So no,

1916
02:46:46.559 --> 02:46:52.520
I don't think there was. We
let's make two other very quick points.

1917
02:46:52.840 --> 02:46:56.000
Firstly, you said what Hamas might
do, as if it was some

1918
02:46:56.120 --> 02:47:00.600
kind of hypothetical. Hamas showed what
they do, what they wants to do.

1919
02:47:00.680 --> 02:47:03.280
It showed it on October seventh,
and it's leadership, as I'm sure

1920
02:47:03.319 --> 02:47:09.280
you very well know, said that
they would like to repeat that again and

1921
02:47:09.360 --> 02:47:13.920
again until they have got rid of
every juke. So I don't know I

1922
02:47:13.959 --> 02:47:18.079
would trust Hamas's word on that rather
than your interpretation of what do you think

1923
02:47:18.120 --> 02:47:22.520
they mean when they say that?
And you're so, why is it again?

1924
02:47:22.639 --> 02:47:30.639
Why is it that Benjamin and Yahoo
supported Hamas? It's conflict, there

1925
02:47:30.719 --> 02:47:37.200
isn't it. Sank doesn't bring that
up, But we'll continue and your generous

1926
02:47:37.360 --> 02:47:41.719
interpretation of what you think that means. And finally, as for preventing a

1927
02:47:41.760 --> 02:47:46.840
Palestinian state, it is nonsense that
the Israelis have prevented a Palestinian state.

1928
02:47:46.959 --> 02:47:52.959
They gave the Gazans Palestinian state in
two thousand and five. They gave them

1929
02:47:54.000 --> 02:47:58.639
a Palestinian state in two thousand and
five when every Jewish person was ripped from

1930
02:47:58.639 --> 02:48:03.000
their homes in the Gaza by IDF
soldiers. And so let's see if we

1931
02:48:03.040 --> 02:48:11.559
can figure this out. Then the
Israeli nation has grown year after year.

1932
02:48:11.639 --> 02:48:16.159
It has not contracted. They gave
in two thousand and five, two thousand

1933
02:48:16.159 --> 02:48:20.159
and six, they gave Hamas political
control of an ever diminishing land mass,

1934
02:48:20.719 --> 02:48:28.319
with people being pushed further and further
closer together. And that's a sacrifice by

1935
02:48:28.479 --> 02:48:33.200
Israel. Oh, Okay, the
Palestinian people were given a state, and

1936
02:48:33.280 --> 02:48:37.600
what did they do? They voted
in Hamaz, who then killed their fellow

1937
02:48:37.600 --> 02:48:41.799
Palestinians, never had another election,
and used all the billions of dollars of

1938
02:48:41.879 --> 02:48:46.360
taxpayer funds from the US, UK
and Europe to build terror tunnels and to

1939
02:48:46.479 --> 02:48:50.440
enrich themselves so they could live the
life of luxury and kata again and again

1940
02:48:50.719 --> 02:48:54.920
there again, I'll say, has
he called for them to be brought out

1941
02:48:54.920 --> 02:49:01.159
of Cutter? Has he complained that
the United States government has not asked for

1942
02:49:01.280 --> 02:49:05.959
extradition for these terrorists. If they're
supposedly terrorists, if they're the leaders,

1943
02:49:05.280 --> 02:49:09.040
why don't they tell Cutter to extradite
them, bring them to England, put

1944
02:49:09.079 --> 02:49:15.280
them on trial? Right eason,
there is not a Palestinian state is because

1945
02:49:15.360 --> 02:49:18.840
the Palestinian leadership doesn't want one,
Okay, do want one? In nineteen

1946
02:49:20.719 --> 02:49:24.319
preferred war and it doesn't want one. Now, we put one point to

1947
02:49:24.319 --> 02:49:26.920
you, raised by Queen Rani of
Jordan in a new piece for I think

1948
02:49:26.920 --> 02:49:31.559
it was a Washington Post. In
just over two months, you said Israel's

1949
02:49:31.559 --> 02:49:35.920
turn Gaza into a healthscape. At
least eight thousand children have died, more

1950
02:49:35.959 --> 02:49:43.520
than the death tolls of Pearl Harbor
September eleventh and Hurricane Katrina combined. These

1951
02:49:43.600 --> 02:49:48.840
are gigantic and horrendous numbers of children
being killed. Do you not have any

1952
02:49:48.920 --> 02:49:52.319
commands about the number of children que
being killed? I mean, does it

1953
02:49:52.319 --> 02:49:56.799
a lot suggest that Israel hear?
I want to quit. I want to

1954
02:49:56.799 --> 02:50:00.440
hear Queen Raniah talking about this as
much as I want to hear Queen Camilla

1955
02:50:00.879 --> 02:50:05.040
or Megan Markle. I mean,
it's pathetic. Queen Rania is holding onto

1956
02:50:05.079 --> 02:50:09.440
her own possession of position in Jordan. The only piece of advice she has

1957
02:50:09.479 --> 02:50:15.319
for anyone is how to marry a
king. Queen Rania herself is just playing

1958
02:50:15.360 --> 02:50:18.719
a very nasty political game. If
she cared at all, and I would

1959
02:50:18.760 --> 02:50:22.159
pose this to all the states in
the region, if Jordan cared at all

1960
02:50:22.239 --> 02:50:26.079
for the Palestinian people, they would
take them in. They would take them

1961
02:50:26.120 --> 02:50:30.920
in let me want them. There
you go again, just treating the people

1962
02:50:31.479 --> 02:50:35.719
as if well, they can just
be moved around, and it's perfectly fine

1963
02:50:35.000 --> 02:50:39.079
that they be pushed around, moved
around, as they have been slowly pushed

1964
02:50:39.120 --> 02:50:43.719
and pushed and pushed every year,
every few years by the Israelis, new

1965
02:50:43.760 --> 02:50:50.680
bulldozers, new settlements. Always we
keep hearing about him every few years.

1966
02:50:50.799 --> 02:50:54.959
And instead of actually addressing the point, he attacks the woman's character and says,

1967
02:50:56.040 --> 02:50:58.159
oh, I don't want to pay
attention to what she says, Well,

1968
02:50:58.200 --> 02:51:03.000
how about what she claimed? If
you would like to dispute that rather

1969
02:51:03.079 --> 02:51:07.280
than calling her names, that might
be worthwhile and constructive. But you don't.

1970
02:51:07.440 --> 02:51:09.159
Egyptians wanted them, They take them
in, but they don't you know

1971
02:51:09.200 --> 02:51:13.479
why, because every country that takes
in the Palestinians gets terror. It happened

1972
02:51:13.479 --> 02:51:18.120
in Does it matter? Why or
why not? Are you going to ascribe

1973
02:51:18.120 --> 02:51:22.159
motors for why they should or shouldn't
take people in? How about no,

1974
02:51:24.040 --> 02:51:30.600
how about your neighborhood Egypt. It
happened in Jordan, it happened in Syria,

1975
02:51:30.760 --> 02:51:33.879
it happened in Lebanon, it happened
in Tunisia, on and on.

1976
02:51:33.120 --> 02:51:37.520
That's why these people don't really care
about their fellow Muslims. They just care

1977
02:51:37.559 --> 02:51:41.040
about hating Jews, all right,
Jack, your response, Yeah, So

1978
02:51:41.440 --> 02:51:46.200
you asked if he cared about eight
thousand dead babies and his answer was no.

1979
02:51:48.440 --> 02:51:52.959
Queen Ranya bothers me so complete non
answer because he doesn't care. He

1980
02:51:54.000 --> 02:51:58.120
doesn't think the Palestinians' lives are worth
anything. You just call them all terrorized.

1981
02:51:58.159 --> 02:52:01.760
You can put that on and this
is what they do. So hold

1982
02:52:01.799 --> 02:52:03.239
on, I let you talk for
a long time. So why don't you

1983
02:52:03.239 --> 02:52:07.760
shut up for a second. So, uh, we've got all these dead

1984
02:52:07.840 --> 02:52:13.280
babies. We've got all of these
dead babies that this monster doesn't care about.

1985
02:52:13.479 --> 02:52:16.079
He says, keep bombing them.
A former intelligence officer said in the

1986
02:52:16.159 --> 02:52:22.639
Israeli press they're using AI in a
program called the Gospel, where he said,

1987
02:52:22.639 --> 02:52:28.760
it's basically a mass assassination factory,
and we could all see it with

1988
02:52:28.799 --> 02:52:31.319
our own eyes, and you could
do all the propaganda you want. No

1989
02:52:31.360 --> 02:52:35.360
one believes your nonsense. We see
all the dead women, we see all

1990
02:52:35.399 --> 02:52:41.200
the dead children. Now, Israel
has killed twenty times the number of civilians

1991
02:52:41.360 --> 02:52:46.159
that Hamas killed. So what I
want Hamas in charge of Israel never never.

1992
02:52:46.360 --> 02:52:48.399
I don't trust them and I don't
believe that they would be benign.

1993
02:52:48.879 --> 02:52:52.239
So all of this propaganda about oh
like oh, people don't mind himas,

1994
02:52:52.319 --> 02:52:56.799
No, we mind Hamas, we
mind we terribly what happened on October seventh.

1995
02:52:58.000 --> 02:53:01.680
And I'm now shown you different Israelis
that have said that it's a problem

1996
02:53:01.879 --> 02:53:07.200
and I want peace and security for
both Israel and Palestine. And this does

1997
02:53:07.239 --> 02:53:11.920
not get Israel any peace or security. But when you ask the other side,

1998
02:53:11.159 --> 02:53:16.840
do you mind tens of thousands of
civilians that have been murdered, incinerated,

1999
02:53:16.879 --> 02:53:22.040
alive, body parts picked out a
rubble, little babies killed over and

2000
02:53:22.120 --> 02:53:28.000
over again in what is even though
there's really prime ministers replying to as alma

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luk meaning an extermination of the Palestine
people. And I must clarify the difference

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between a genocide and a holocaust.
A genocide is when you target a specific

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people and kill a lot of civilians. Serbniza, where six thousand people were

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killed, was considered a genocide,
So it doesn't mean you try to murder

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every single person on that race.
That is a holocaust. Before we go

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to Douglas, check one question.
You want to get rid of a mass

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two, as does Douglas as do
I. If you don't do it the

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way that Israel is currently doing it, given that they live amongst the population,

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how else do you do it?
Yeah, there's an excellent way to

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do it, and there's the right
way to do it. So let me

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explain. So war this guy talks
about, Oh I love war. I

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go to all the conflict zones.
So by watching it and ruling on for

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more death, I know something about
conflict. You know nothing. So here's

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what reality is. War gets you
moral war, but peace actually works.

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So when Israel did a peace deal
with Egypt, not only were the Egyptians

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state, but the Israelis became safer. That peace deal has held for decade

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after a decade, So how do
you do a peace deal in this case?

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What you do is you make you
do the two state solution now,

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and you do it with the Paladian
authority in the West Bank. And if

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you then have a Palainian state,
the Palasadian authority would have the credibility to

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drive out Hamas from Gaza. That
is a realistic plan for both peace,

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security for Israel and the Palestinians,
and driving out Harmas. The idea that

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you're going to kill two hundred thousand
more civilians. Let me and it's going

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to drive Let under answer that.
Let's lead unrespond the first of all,

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First of all, I mean your
other guests. I mean, I don't

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know what kind of a creature here
is. He's a kind of low grade

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thug. As far as I can
see, he's listened to nothing. I've

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said, yeah, thing, I'll
tell you. I'll tell you. No,

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it's not at all, it's not
that at all. I just think

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you're very I think you're just a
very low rent racist. But anyway,

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let me just get onto it.
You say, you say, first of

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all, you say I don't care
about the death Palestinian children. Yes,

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I do care. I care very
deeply about it. But I also know

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that the responsibility for their deaths lies
on Hamaz, which has misgoverned their society

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for the last sixteen years and now
has been leading the country into being in

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a war with Israel. So yet, all right, so you probably have

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seen that many many times. What
I think is interesting is this is like

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somebody from the United States government accusing
people that have been stuck on an Indian

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reservation of being angry at the United
States government and the leaders of the Indian

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Reservation whom the US government has subsidized
to be the leaders of the Indian Reservation

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somehow mismanaging things inside the Indian Reservation
even though the US government wasn't allowing resources

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and controlled all those resources inside the
Indian Reservation. That's what I see from

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Douglas Murray. That's what I see. And I want to compliment again sank

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Unger or sank Junger or whatever.
Sorry I keep mispronouncing his name for doing

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a stand up job holding his call
for quite a while. And what was

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interesting was this guy Murray kept tweaking
him and needling him, interrupting him with

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little sounds and breathing and finally sayings
like we just shut up, let me

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talk. And then the guy opens
up like, oh, you're very courteous,

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aren't you, after repeatedly interrupting Saint
Junger. Just incredible, just incredible.

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It's a gas lighting technique. It's
one hundred percent gas lighting, which

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is the same thing as his rhetoric. Israel has to be able to engage

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in the slaughter of innocent people in
order to protect innocent people. Get it.

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And if you don't like that,
then you must be in favor of

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the slaughter of innocent people. Get
So there you go, everybody. I

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hope that was okay. I thought
it was worth playing the whole segment from

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my show last night, because you
know, I wanted to get that out

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there. Sometimes story might dominate for
an hour in an interview with someone who

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has a new book, or you
know, someone with some great expertise on

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a subject. Maybe they've traveled somewhere, they've been working in a field and

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it's so interesting. So I hope
you didn't mind me putting that information out

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there, drawing out the experience from
last night's prog and doing that sort of

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mimic of that amount of time for
that particular subject for what we did.

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You know, oftentimes on a talk
show or a news show, you might

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spend ten twenty minutes on a subject
to dig into it, get some more

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information the next day, maybe reveal
some more ask the opinions of the viewers.

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And this one went a little extended
on my own on this because I

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wanted to show that to people.
And then I got to read some of

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the comments and we did some more
as I closed off the program, So

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as we close off the David Night
program, first, I want to go

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into the Rock finchat because as I've
been here on the side, I want

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to thank everyone so much. Greg
Talent contributed to the program early in the

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show, and then Tornator contributed as
well, and he said, thank you

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for doing double duty this week.
While David is away, podcasters like you

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are living the dream for us in
the audience. I'm just glad my occupation

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gives me multiple hours to receive my
download of Truth every day so I can

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vicariously live the dream with you.
Although I can't start my own podcast for

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various reasons, I do make memes
on occasion that I'd like to share with

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you somehow. Well. Thank you
Tornator and contact me on the backside of

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Twitter. It's at guard Goldsmith and
that would be great. That would be

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awesome. And Jason Barker again,
great contribution Jason over at Rock Finn.

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Thank you, Thank you, Jason. He says, thanks Guard, you

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rock well, you rock too,
Jason. I love you man. You

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guys are just great people, just
awesome people in the David Knight audience and

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David Knight and his family as well, and there were some amazing observations with

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inside both of the chats. I
want to acknowledge Narrowway Narrowgate Ministry for coming

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up with so many great Biblical references, and also some people comparing their thoughts

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about sank And again, yeah,
I had a lot of mixed feelings about

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him. I still do. But
you know, when when someone says the

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right thing, or someone consistently like
Russell Brands, somebody said, you know,

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why are you promoting Russell Brand?
I just want to mention know,

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Russell Brand had a change of heart, he had to overcome his addiction problems,

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and he had done some really,
really terrible things in the past.

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So you say to yourself, do
you give a person like that a chance?

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Well, he consistently shows me in
over and over again. He's not

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yet a Christian, although now he's
reading the Bible. They're doing a Bible

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study on his show, and I
don't think it's fatuous. He's really interested

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in these sorts of things, and
I think part of the reason that he's

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so interested in and this part of
his nature, but I think also this

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exploration of the greater power and now
he's reading the Bible. I'm not saying

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he's necessarily going to become a Christian, but it reveals a change of heart

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as he became sober and changed his
life and apologize for those things that he

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did in the past, profusely apologized. And you know, you can't change

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those pasts, but if you can
show consistently that you've had a change in

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heart with your behavior. I don't
think he's a cutout. I don't think

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he's you know, controlled opposition or
anything like that. I think he's honest

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and straight up. He gave up
a lot in his life, and so

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I'm gonna let his behavior continue talking
and showing me if he's covering these stories

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in these ways. Maybe I'll disagree, you know, once in a while,

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but I keep getting great information from
Russell Brandt, so I give him

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a chance. And I love the
people that are redacted. They're also fantastic,

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and I like Glenn Greenwald, has
some disagreements with him. Jimmy Door

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same thing. So you know,
give give folks a chance, try to

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be as positive as it can.
And boy, I wish I could get

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to all the comments. David will
be back on Monday, everyone, and

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I really appreciate the comments in there. People wondering when David's going to be

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coming back, and also the contributions
as well, and yeah, I really

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appreciate you being with me here on
the program. I'll conclude with yeah,

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of course, a little bit of
something extra from David as we say good

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night, good you got that,
good afternoon, whatever time zone you might

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be calling your home, and we'll
go with a little something from David and

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the family, which is I think
a pretty nice one. Check this out,

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we'll say fairly well. Thank you
so much for being one great group

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of people supporting the David Knight Show. Get Better Tony Rdeburn, remember Wise

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I'll see you tonight on Liberty Conspiracy,

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on Rockfinn Rumble and on Twitter It's
at guard Goldsmith JRD. And again,

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thank you so much for welcoming me. Hope you did a good job for

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you today, David and the gang, and take care everybody. Thank you

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so much, God bless. Whether
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