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Welcome everybody here, we go Happy
Tuesday. I'd almost forgot, as is

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often the case, and I'm sure
others can relate. I kept thinking it

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was Monday earlier. But Happy Tuesday, everybody, welcome back. Hope everybody

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had a good Memorial Day weekend.
This is Matt Connerton, Leachton. We

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are live from the studios of wm
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I am not alone Monday. Jenny
is at the newsdesk Monday. Well not

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quiet, that is that is when
Monday. Because I'm here, it does,

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it does, absolutely yes, and
joining us on the couch making his

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return to the program. Republican candidate
for the presidency, Steve Laffy is here.

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Hello, great to be with you
guys. A lot of fun,

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great show, good music, Thank
you, Thank you. Yeah you like

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the uh yeah, the uh for
everything. Yeah. For anyone who's we

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appreciate that. Now for anyone who's
wondering that is a new Um what I

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opened with that's a parody project is
the YouTuber Congress sucks the money down.

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Yes, as is uh that is
how that is how it works in the

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in the big leagues of politics,
that's for sure. But welcome back,

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everybody, and I do oh wow, we've got a busy chat room already.

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Well listen, so Steve Laughy is
here with us, and we're gonna

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talk about Jenny said, you wanted
to talk about healthcare, which, um,

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particularly Yeah, well that's one of
the things that um, you know,

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we had an extensive discussion last time
you were here, but we didn't

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that that was something we didn't get
into. And I'm curious because i mean,

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you know, you made a couple
of references to healthcare, but we

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didn't get a chance to really get
into it. So curious to hear your

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your thoughts. And Jenny has been
doing some activism on that very subject,

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as I'm sure you know too.
So uh so it's wonderful to have her

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here for this as well. And
you can be with us if you'd like

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I do see Jenny, You're in
the chat room. I'm everywhere. Say

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yeah, shalom peezz Also easyg joins
us, says happy Taco Tuesday. Isaac

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Banks from Greensboro, North Carolina.
Also Miriam Banish joins us, Crystal our

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friend from the Great state of Illinois. And Joe Friday says Aloha gentleman,

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Aloha to uh. To Joe Friday, Helloha, Yes, yes so again.

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Six zo three two five zero six
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you would like to discuss anything with
us today, If you have any questions

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for our guest Steve Laughy and um. Yeah. This is your second time

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on the show and you've been busy. It sounds like you've been picking up

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some media appearances. You just got
done. You were across the street and

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you did did the local stuff with
the patch with yeah Tony, Tony who

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does the New Hampshire rood Island stuff. And then before that I was live

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on Newsmax today for the fifth for
the fifth time. Oh no, kidding,

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um, and we're talking about the
debt ceiling and the disaster of both

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parties my party too, but anyway
we can talk about that too, the

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deat ceiling and how bizarre it is. Well, yeah, you had sent

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me a m an article and you
said you had messaged me that you wanted

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to talk about healthcare. I couldn't
find anything on your website about what your

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position is or what your plans are
in relation to national healthcare. Could you

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give us a picture of what that
looks like? Yes, um, there

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isn't. There is a lot,
not at the very first page. But

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I've talked a lot about healthcare over
the years, so there's a lot of

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videos and stuff and not that you
need to go back in find it.

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But yes, the big we have
a at least a trillion dollar extra spending

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problem in healthcare over any other industrialized
country. We spend eighteen percent of gross

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domestic product on healthcare in our country, and it is and the average country

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takes Switzerland is twelve or eleven.
And what is it about? One is

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the one seventh of our GDP.
Yeah, it's eighteen percent. It's it's

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it's ridiculously high. And an extra
six percent is a trillion dollars. And

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that trillion dollars comes about because of
a lot of things. We can get

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into anyone you want to, sure, but one would simply be if you

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want to take them piece by piece, won't it be? The patent system

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and the large lobbying efforts of large
drug companies based in America who use America

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as their giant cash cow for the
rest of the world. People listening to

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the show paid on average twelve ice
what anybody in Germany pays for the same

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drug. Twice I mean, I
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twice well even Isn't that why some
people go to Canada for their prescriptive course

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and and and of course has been
talking about this for years, that people

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should be able to buy their drugs, as I believe they should anywhere they

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should, they could get them,
but we as Americans should not. I

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mean, the biggest lobby are in
America is visor three hundred million dollars plus

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per year spent on lobbying to people
that don't have term limits. Many of

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the people in Congress go to work
for companies like this. When they get

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out and the staffers do it's a
whole insidious piece of corruption. So this

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needs to change. If I were
president, we would have to There's a

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lot of things we have to do, but one would simply be that we're

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not doing that anymore. That that
that we're not making Americans pay twice as

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much. How are you fixing it? So? The pharmaceutical companies from what

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let me just keep up without the
flow here. The pharmaceutical companies here,

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you're saying they get a corner on
the market with their patents and they charge

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Americans more money than other people.
Am I getting that? Well, not

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a corner in the market. A
patent is a corner on the market.

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What they do with patents is extend
patents from many many years past what the

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law says, by waiting to the
end and then showing them that there's another

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use for it, even though they
already know there's another use for it.

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Then they extend the patent and keep
the price up rather than letting it go

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off pattent. We have to stop
that. That has to be a vote

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of Congress, both houses. Again, no more executive orders, by the

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way, like, let's stop the
executive order thing from from the world,

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because it's just like they get revoked
after the guy goes or whatever happens.

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So that's number one. We have
to have a better patent system. People

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need to be rewarded for coming up
with new drugs, obviously, otherwise people

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would I'm sorry, I just want
to understand a little bit better. There's

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a medication that I'm on that is
the patent is owned by the company,

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and the company is actually not located
in the United States, but they have

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the patent ownership in the United States. So as you can imagine, it

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makes it practically impossible for people to
be able to get the medication because of

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exorbitant pricing, and they don't get
to make enough money, so they don't

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want to make it for everybody.
They make it in the money. They

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make it in the form that gives
them the most money. So like the

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form that I take is such a
low dose, they don't make a profit,

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so they don't make it. So
I have to go through a compounding

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pharmacy, and insurance companies get a
pass on paying for compounding meads, How

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can you fix that pattern system for
me that that medication becomes more affordable and

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more available to me on that one
medication, I don't know. I mean,

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I don't think anybody knows one medication. Now I'm saying the patent what

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do we do to that? We
have to fix the patent system so that

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it lasts a certain amount of years. And with a patent system, otherwise,

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we wouldn't have people if there was
no patent system, who would develop

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a new drug? Right? So
I think most people would agree that we

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a patent system. But my problem
with the patent system. We look through

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drugs and you just read through what
happens. By the way, I mean,

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pick a drug one that everybody knows
about viagraph for example, that one

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was extended. I don't know anything
one people hear about, right, So

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so that's one problem with healthcare.
It's just one problem that needs to be

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dealt with in your particular case.
I don't know the right answer for your

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particular drug, Steve, can I
ask you, is this why? Um?

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Because I'll often hear people say,
uh, you know, you should

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be able to get generic versions of
these drugs, which would make them cheaper.

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Is the patent system, the way
it is what prevents that from happening.

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But after some things go off patent, they go to generic drug makers.

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You got big one's called Tiva located
in Israel, one of the biggest

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generic drug makers in the world.
They look for things to go off pat

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and they make them and then then
the price drops specipitously, which is should

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after after the company has had the
ability to make a lot of money.

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Because remember we don't hear about the
drugs that don't that don't make it.

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I mean to give Fiser or anybody
credit, like Eli Lily, any company.

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They try a lot of things and
they lose money like a bad like

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a bad movie. Right, So
like water World, right the day right,

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you spend three hundred million dollars,
you sell ten million dollars. You

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had a big loss. So to
recoup their losses, they get to charge

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you know what they want. Now, whether insurance companies do or don't accept

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this particular drug, that's a whole
another story. But the patent thing has

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to be made so it doesn't get
extended in my humble opinion, it's a

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very different opinion than any republic you
get to talk to because but but that's

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what I think. Has you want
to give it a finite annual this many

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years and then twelve if it's we
could I mean again, I'm not the

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expert to argue whether it should be
twelve years or nine years something like that.

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Yeah, yeah, and then now
the other So the other problem would

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be an issue for Congress to deal
with that the President should put forth in

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a lore is that we're not paying
more than list prices in industrial realized countries

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or any countries. I mean,
and that way you're drug not particularly yours.

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Again, but people's drug course would
drop precipitously and the ones in Germany

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would have to go up a little
bit. Remember that they wouldn't make these

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drugs if they didn't make some money, right, right? But why are

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we double and I make the world
up double. Sometimes it's three times as

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much, sometimes it's the same amount. But you can look at the list

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prices in Canada, list prices of
the same drug, same patent drug,

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not generic drug, same drug sold
in industrialized I'm not talking about something off

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the shelf and Argentina. I'm talking
about Germany, France, United Kingdom,

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Canada. People, we know people, we trade with those kind of countries,

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So that has to be changed.
When that can get changed, we're

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gonna have We're gonna have a lowering
for the United States residents on their prescription

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drugs. Now, that doesn't answer
your question about what to do about getting

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them to make my drug in a
way that's going to help me. That's

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not the answer to your question.
That's an answer to another question. How

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do we lower generally drug prices?
Now? Well, yeah, there's another

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part of this whole system, and
that is I believe that the way this

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has to change is that right now
we go see a doctor, right and

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what happens a lot is that due
to the changes and lures in two thousand

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and six, Where before two thousand
and six or so, it was very

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very hard for any of these TV
commercials to mention drugs they had to put

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in. Now you think that,
wow, how can they what do they

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have to put in before? Because
now they say the side effect is that

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it kills you. Oh yeah,
there's a whole there's a whole ache exactly.

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But it was way more than that, they couldn't even advertise. I

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believe that was the right. I
believe that allowing drug companies to advertise these

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drugs. Jenny says that all the
time. Yeah, yeah, how hardly

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do I agree? When you talk
to doctors people, Now, here's what

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happens. People come in and not
everybody, but I'm trying to be not

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too general. People come and say
I need that purple pill I think I

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have. If you notice, by
the way, the advertisements, and this

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is not to make fun of someone
has this real element, real ailment that

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but notice it's not it's not generally. These drug commercials are not for things

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that affect millions and millions of people
that you know, everybody. There's sort

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of like esoteric drug problems. Yeah, again, they're very bad if someone

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has them, I want someone to
be cured. But they're driving up all

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these questions for doctors. They're driving
people into doctors to ask for it.

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Interesting. Second, doctors don't get
paid to get people better, so they

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just give people drugs. That's not
true by any stretch of the imagination.

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Come on, now, Nope,
doctor, your your regular doctor doesn't get

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paid if you get better, does
he? Well, I get your saying.

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I just maybe the way you're saying
it, the way you're saying he

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wants to get you better. Don't
get me wrong, I'm not saying thank

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you. It was the way you
put it right. But they don't get

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paid. I love my provider.
Okay, A doctor right now or hospital

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does not generally get paid at the
end of the year by saying, hey,

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you know what you had? Make
up the numbers. A hundred patients

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come in and wow, this patient
lost this much weight and is off this

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particular drug. This person started on
lippertur and you got a mof liperatour because

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they started eating notemeal. I'm I'm
being very hyperboliicia. Whatever right this person

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did that. They don't get paid
at the end of the year by like,

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wow, what a great job you
did with these people. See,

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I get what you're saying there.
Yeah, so we need a system that

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they do in other words, or
more that they do, or that's how

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people will react to incentives. I
mean, I'm come from the investment banking

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world, and I could give you
story after story how we changed things at

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my firm, Morgan Keegan, and
how we made people not made people.

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We incentivize certain things to the things
that we wanted. We didn't want people

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to do commissions anymore than nineteen nineties. Too many stock jockeys, too many

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people just calling on the phone saying
by the stock because they get paid time

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you bought a stock. We wanted
wealth management. We wanted people just to

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get paid on the assets. We
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we incentivized analysts who were paid on
commissions. The guys who said, who

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say, we incentivize them just to
outperform the stock market with just the ones

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they called outperformed and guess what better
stock picks. They made more money.

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We gathered more assets with a product. But we incentivize what we wanted and

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we got it. Not to get
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in America is the ability so that
let's put it this way, and this

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is not to make fun of people, but we have a really unhealthy person

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and he's forty years old and for
whatever reason, he's drinking a gallon of

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beer a day and I'm just I'm
making it. But we want him not

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to do that, right, But
we don't want him just to go in

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and say at the age of fifty. I've been you know, I've been

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caring around too much weight, I've
been drinking and my srosses deliver and I

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need a newliver, and I need
to unique. We can't be doing that

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any longer. That's just we need
that person to try to get better.

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Yeah, people do want to get
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want to be healthy. People don't
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And don't get me started on sugar
and all that kind of stuff,

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but I will. So we need
a system where we can take people and

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say, yes, you can be
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there and right now, Joe,
you're forty two, you're really unhealthy.

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You're actual warily a four hundred thousand
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insurance company. I mean the fact
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be there. But we want that
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two hundred thousand dollar problem, not
by them, you know, not by

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them being healthy, by rewarding them
with programs that make them healthy, by

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doctors being incentive that. Hey,
you know what, Joe came in a

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couple of years ago. He's doing
pretty well, like he's not perfect.

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He didn't get to be an NFL
running back at the end of the whole

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thing, but now he's doing better. We need a system that rewards these

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kind of incentives. We don't have
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systems built into healthcare. For example, I'm rewarded with points when I go

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to the YMCA and I can turn
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a cash value for meeting my step
requirements and it's starting to happen. No,

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no, a little bit, a
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my doctor rewards me often by not
by I mean, speaking from my perspective,

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I'm rewarded by my doctor when he
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into the office again for six months
versus six weeks. I'm rewarded by my

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doctor when he looks at my lab
work and says, wow, look at

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your triglycerides a seventy five. Your
cholesterol is great. Don't change your thing.

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That For me, that's a reward. And I understand you're talking about

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this reward system, but I really
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level. Well, we have a
problem in America. Would you agree.

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Our healthcare system is broken. People
do not get appropriate healthcare right now,

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appropriate healthcare when they get it,
don't get it. I mean, that's

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a big topic, but we don't. Why is it a big topic,

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Well, because a lot of people
get very very good healthcare. Health Care

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in some senses can be very very
good until you have a cancer diagnosis,

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lose your job, and lose that
healthcare. So yeah, that's what happens.

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Well, I have a daughter and
I've seen five to eight million dollars

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of bills across my desk. I
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For eight years. I've been that
lady right there. I got you.

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She lived at the children's hospital for
two and a half years. I took

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over homeschooling the kids. That's why
you haven't heard from me. But why

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should you have that kind of bill? Shouldn't that shouldn't the child be entitled

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as a basic human being to have
basic human right of healthcare and be entitled

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if she needs this IV she needs
this chemo, she needs that treatment,

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that she should simply get it.
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as a family agree with the doctor
this is the course of treatment, and

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nobody gets in the way and says
whether they're going to approve prior up whatever.

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It's simply you, the patient,
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that care gets done. And this
medical system is simply paid through one centralized

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system in a national healthcare scheme.
And then you're going to have healthcare at

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twenty four percent of GDP. No. Actually, I would argue with you

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that you would actually see a reduction
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Without systems, you get rid of
all of the insurance bureaucracy. I know

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one provider that could instantly get rid
of one job because she has a sole

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employee that does nothing but denials from
Anthem, just Anthem. That's how bad

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the denials are, the paperwork that
insurance companies force our doctors and providers to

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go through, the hoops that we
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lymphidema patients can't get compression on their
leg unless they have an ulcar, costing

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way more money. If we invested
in our healthcare system, that every human

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being was entitled to the healthcare that
is available in this great nation of ours,

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we should have USA Care, We
should have America Care where every human

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being in America can go to a
healthcare facility with cancer and get full on

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treatment. I have a friend that
just had to negotiate a three thousand dollars

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a month chemo co pay. I'm
sure you've seen co pays. Even with

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a good insurance. You probably has
a government official. You probably had a

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heck of a lot more insurance than
the average Joe. You know, Mary

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who has a TV shows, can
only buy six vials of insulin even at

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the reducted price, because it's still
over two hundred dollars a month for seven.

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So we're still rationing. Well,
I want to go sorry, I

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want I want to stop there,
and I want to how you do I

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want to know what you don't.
I don't. I don't think we should

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have natural health insurance like that,
where which we would just get it and

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get it and get it. I
don't think that's worked anywhere. If you

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look at the United Kingdom as a
great example, you will see that wealthy

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people opted out of the national health
insurance in the UK. The people left

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behind have don't have as good health
in cares, and the rich people have

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much better. That's what happens.
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Netherlands. I was quite impressed at
the availability and I was extremely impress at

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the care that my state for breast
cancer male patient has gotten. And he's

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still alive today because he has not
been denied a single solitary treatment medication nothing.

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Doctor said, you need it,
you get it. Let's let's get

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it. I want to know how
America gives better healthcare to everybody. Okay,

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well hang on, that's what I
was just trying to. I get

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excited. I saw, no,
you can get it. We'll circle back,

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but we do have a call.
Shannon is on the line. High

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Shannon, Hello, good afternoon.
Hello. Um. One thing I wanted

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to say is that when you are
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to enroll AH for the prescription plans
it's affordable to you, and where your

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drugs are on the formulary, because
if your drugs aren't on that formulary,

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you have to call the doctors off
or authorization. Yes there's another pain.

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Oh there's always foods. Yeah,
yeah, absolutely, Uh what else?

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I don't know what else else?
Well, I've had a bad weekend.

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Well sorry, sorry to hear that, shandam thank you all right, but

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no, um, it's not it's
who you are. To me, it

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seems like it's who you are and
the insurance you have mm hmm. And

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I don't know, it's a wealthy
these people who have to think about I

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don't know, make a little fund, you know, the pay it forward,

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want to pay medical stuff forward and
put money into um what am I

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trying to say? Just put money
into uh agencies? Or no, don't

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do that because it'll end up in
someone to fuck itt um. Oh yeah,

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sh no, we we we take
you, We take your point,

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and we appreciate the call. And
well we'll see what else Steve has to

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sale the subject. Well, and
hi, Jenny, Hi, how are

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you? I'm sorry, we're all
good. No, we're all good.

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Thanks all right, thanks, thanks
for all right bye. I think Jenny

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has some good points. I think
one of the points though from this call

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or it just makes me realize that
we need to start in this country for

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things that we actually do agree upon. And I think the vast majority of

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people. You'll never get Republicans to
go for nastural health insurance, you'll never

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get Democrats to do blah blah blah. But we do agree that our large

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drug companies have far too much power
in Washington. So let's start there.

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And I think the thing about prescription
drugs, I've never met anybody to say,

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oh, no, I disagree with
that we should pay more than German.

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I mean, so there's things that
we can start that are lots and

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lots of money. The only way
you can have sort of everybody insured program,

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whatever you want to call it,
would be that if we cap what

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we spend as a country at a
certain percentage. We can't have it at

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twenty percent. We would already broke
just on the other it on today's numbers,

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though you're not basing it on what
the numbers would look like under a

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system that did get rid of insurance
companies and did put it between the like

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when you talk to people, all
right, they say Medicare. People on

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Medicare love their Medicare, right,
No, you don't think so, I

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don't know. I may I talk
to health insurance Medicare the actual people who

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actually have medic the Medicare insurance and
setup which I am stuck on a disadvantage

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plan. Um. They usually say
they like it because they don't get denied

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access to things doctor says they needed. Can they pay for it though they

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pay extra money for all these things. And there's Medicare avantage plans which are

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and some of them are about outcomes. So yes, there are some parts

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of the system that are working better
than others. My point, it would

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just be very honest about it,
unless you're gonna cap how much we spend

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on healthcare in this country. If
you want everybody to be insured and they

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don't have to do anything but be
insured, they don't have to get better,

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you you're gonna but we've already busted
the system. Oh that's a dangerous

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Pandora's box there, sir. If
they don't want to get better, if

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they don't try to get better,
oh my goodness. So I don't have

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a death panel here. No,
that's that's what I'm saying. No,

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I'm not I'm not creating. I'm
saying if they don't get if they don't

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try, if we do what qualifies
that though, well, working with doctors

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to do what needs to be done
to you want doctors to be in charge

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of this this cancel button that says
Nope, not trying enough. I'm not

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saying, but can we agree in
the United States of America when we spend

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eighteen percent of gross domestic product on
our healthcare, six percentage points more than

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says Switzerland, a trillion dollars more. That something needs to change. Yeah,

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we need to get rid of insurance
companies. The vast majority of this

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money you keep in talking about would
go away under what I'm saying, because

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we would not have to deal with
umpteen billing agencies and wrong code crap.

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We would have a system in which
doctor says patient needs x, X,

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goes to medicare and says, YEP, patient needs X. It's paid,

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patient gets what they need. We
go on about our day. Patient is

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getting better. They're not waiting to
get approval or a prior authorization. My

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doctor's not spending six hours on the
phone trying to get that prior authorization.

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My other provider doesn't have to have
an entire employee just to deal with one

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insurance. There's so much money that
you're talking about that is all tied up

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in this horrific billing system that does
its best when it denies people the most.

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The only people that benefit under today's
system are rich, well the average

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would I mean, I just disagree
with that. I mean, if you

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work for the state government of Rhode, and you have a very good health

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insurance and you're not rich until you
get cancer and lose your job and hence

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lose your insurance. I was an
EMT, I owned a house, I

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had property, I had multiple jobs. I was even a volunteer for local

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ems. I got breast cancer,
my second cancer. Life fell apart.

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I lost the house, I lost
the land. I lost my health insurance.

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Why because they couldn't work anymore.
So what you're saying doesn't work the

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moment somebody gets sick. Tell me
what happens to your employee that works under

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your great insurance system when they're me
and they get cancer and they lose that

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great job. Yeah, I mean, I meant I want to hear this

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answer. Well, the answer is
that we have a very imperfect system,

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that's for sure. That's not an
answer. No, it is the answer.

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The other answer. No, No, I gave you ahead. No.

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No. What is the answer for
the course that we spent on health

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insurance today in America versus other industrialized
countries. Well, we could do more

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of a Netherlands type style plan where
people pay flat rate, that's their insurance.

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That's ever. In fact, people
are there. Pay a flat rate,

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and it's not just their health insurance, it's also their personal insurance,

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because you have to have personal insurance
in that country. If you hit somebody

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with your bicycle, they have to
be able to sue you. Like,

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that's real, real over there.
They pay this one flat fee and they

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get access. The doctor calls them
the prescriptions to the pharmacy. The pharmacy

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delivers them one hundred percent access,
no denial, no tie up. No,

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I'm waiting six weeks to start chemo
because my insurance says it's not medically

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necessary under your system. It's wonderful
to have that great policy as long as

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I work for you. But when
I get the cancer and I lose the

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job, I lose that great insurance
and I don't get to work for you

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anymore, and I have no health
care left. Well see if I mean,

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I think I think you would acknowledge
a lot a lot of people do

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fall through the crack. No,
no, and yes, And that's why

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if we have a system, will
we find the people who listen. We're

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not going to make it perfect overnight. Yeah at all. I think we

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all agree again and then we can
argue back and forth and this issue back

412
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and forth forever. That's what people
do. It's not really what I'm interested

413
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in arguing back and forth and things
they're not going to get solved. That's

414
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not my interest. My interest in
things that we can solve and solve quickly.

415
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Yeah, and one of them is
simply prescription drugs. We can solve

416
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that problem. We can solve the
cost of prescription drugs grammatically for people who

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take prescription drugs, and we can
solve the problem of the patent issue so

418
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:55,759
things go to generic faster quickly.
There's other stuff I mean, I mean,

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I'm not into argue with completely different, completely different I want to build

420
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on what you just said. I
remember, years ago, we used to

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be able to go to Walmart and
get the four dollar prescription, right,

422
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:11,279
the generic of something you could afford
it. Why did that change? Why

423
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is it now everybody's spending thirty dollars
for the same antibiotic that used to be

424
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generic on the four dollar list.
What happened? No, if it was

425
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generic on the fourder list, I
don't know. I mean, good,

426
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,599
our rex is a good thing to
use in different ways to get things down.

427
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But I do know that many,
many drugs that should be generic have

428
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remained on patent because big drug companies
lobby to Congress so bad, so hard,

429
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with so much money, that they
find other ways to keep them from

430
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,759
becoming generic. It's a big problem. Yeah, that's a that's a giant

431
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,160
problem. And healthcare course today with
drugs, that's probably the most powerful lobby

432
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,799
in washing. It is the most
powerful. Absolutely, it is the most

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powerful. And now again to get
at something to do with healthcare tangentially,

434
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,079
we really have to make sure that
people have term limits at serving Congress and

435
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:03,839
these and their staff, and that
people cannot go lobby after they work in

436
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,279
Congress. They can't do this anymore
because it's a well they love to do

437
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:10,519
that here in conquered that's all they
do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

438
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,920
yeah, well, I mean you
can. It's it's you know, on

439
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,039
politics, you can kind of fail
upward and that you can. Yeah,

440
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,759
you can lose an election and then
go get a bigger right, I'd be

441
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:23,200
happy, but yes, no,
you're right. It's just these are really

442
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,720
hard problems. And listen, I
have six children, and I've seen two

443
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:33,599
really tough illnesses and six children that
are unrelated, non hereditary that have gone

444
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:34,799
on for years. One went on
for ten years. It was solved.

445
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,640
I'm very appreciative with the good doctors. This is not an anti doctor thing.

446
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Oh, of course, the ones
at the children's hospital with my daughter

447
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:48,640
eighteen, came down with neuroblastomer still
has it stage four. Supposed to given

448
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,039
six months to live. Twice.
She lived at the hospital two hundred nights

449
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:55,599
a year. I started homeschool and
little children. She was given one day

450
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,359
to live once one day. She's
still with us. She just graduated from

451
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:02,480
grad school, still has cancer.
Getting married Saturday. Wow. So I

452
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,799
totally understand. I mean, listen, the empathy level of you go to

453
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:08,720
the children's hospital, even if you
just go like I go, not you

454
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:13,119
live there like my beautiful wife live
there, live there. Yeah yeah,

455
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,759
sit outside a radiation room for twenty
five days. Try try try doing that

456
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,079
and bring in rush. You know, I don't know if you know radiation

457
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,440
rooms. They don't have nurses going
every time because they can't get all the

458
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,599
radiation. You can do it once
or twice. So my wife sat outside

459
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:29,400
a radiation room for I don't know
a couple of weeks, and my daughter,

460
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:31,599
Sarah Grace Laughy was in the radiation
room, and when you had to

461
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:35,279
have food, she ran in,
gave her the food, and ran out.

462
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:39,279
It's really true. But on the
flip side, really caring doctors,

463
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:45,039
really beautiful nurses, not physically,
I mean whatever, a beautiful insight,

464
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,839
just like really people who care.
So we're not talking about like no one

465
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,359
cares about healthcare whatever, we're What
we're talking about is a system that we

466
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:57,680
built up the course level to such
a level we can't do it anymore.

467
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,759
We have all the we have all
these other things that we've wasted money on

468
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,839
totally from George Bush to today.
Wasted so much money with Donald Trump,

469
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:07,960
eight trillion dollars of disaster, and
now we're looking at thirty two trillion dollars

470
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,160
a debt twenty four trillion that we
borrow from the public, and now the

471
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,599
rubber meets the road, the financial
crisis is happening again. Not to get

472
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:17,839
off healthcare. This is what I
really know about. This is this is

473
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:22,519
why I'm running for president. I'm
just a tangentially person who cares about healthcare.

474
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:24,599
I'm not an expert on healthcare.
I can totally agree with it.

475
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,359
I don't have all the answers for
healthcare. I have all the answers for

476
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,839
social security right here to talk about
it. I can't respect, and I

477
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:37,400
don't know, and I just know
that people are really crying out for a

478
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,880
different way to look at doing things. And I think that people are also

479
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,279
crying out if I hear, if
I get one more email from my Republican

480
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:50,759
brethren, they start like this,
there's a lady in Mississippi, what's her

481
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,599
name, that is a representative whatever
who yells at the president, which you

482
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:58,519
shouldn't do. And it starts like
this, the Marxis are taken over to

483
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:02,039
send me money, and I guess
people send her money. Marjorie Green,

484
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Marjorie Green, Marjorie Taylor Green,
Marjorie Taylor Green, totally out of control.

485
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,239
But but Ron, the governor,
Ron de Santa sends me stuff and

486
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,760
it's about I don't want to say
the word Marxist again, but it's basically

487
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,280
the same stuff. Yeah, he's
being attacked within for Ron. I'm like,

488
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:21,840
it's awful that they're feeding into that. Yeah, everybody's feeding into this

489
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,679
attack dog stuff. But that's not
the way it can be. We're gonna

490
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:28,960
have again. One of the things
I promise you if I am the President

491
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:32,480
United States. There will be no
executive orders. Yeah, and you can't

492
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:35,719
get tented into that. I mean, come on, I don't know.

493
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,199
There are situations I get. I
don't think we need I think we have

494
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,880
to do it the old fashioned way. We have to go to Congress with

495
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,519
a bill and say I want you
to pass this bill. We have a

496
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,960
question for you. And I don't
know if the person wants me to identify

497
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,840
who it is us. Somebody in
this ram says, my question is what

498
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,440
about our prescription drugs being made in
China? Oh, this is a huge

499
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,679
problem. And I tell you I've
been talking about this. I've been talking

500
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,039
about China. My movie Fixing America
at Amazon is about China primarily. Yeah,

501
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,800
I've been saying since two thousand and
five publicly this, hundreds of hours

502
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,320
of me saying this, we shouldn't
be trading with China, but specifically too,

503
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,639
because, by the way, there's
never been all the bill of goods

504
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:20,199
people were sold from the year two
thousand on about how giving them a trade

505
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:22,840
deal would make them more of a
democratic republic. Blah blah blah was always

506
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,280
a lie. I said it was
a lie. I was right by the

507
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,159
way, just so you know when
the next presidential candidate comes in and for

508
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:36,159
the listeners before, this is made
in Virginia. This is made I'm pointing

509
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,800
to my tipe. Yes, this
is made in New York by I bet

510
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,199
it for three hundred bucks. This
is made in Seattle. Massocks were made

511
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,360
in Seattle. The shoes were made
a San Antonio shoe company in San Antonio,

512
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:51,079
sas So, I think we should
try to buy things made to America,

513
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,880
but specifically in twenty twenty. The
unfortunate part of the people who represent

514
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,440
our country, Republican and Democrat,
is that they belonged to the talking nation,

515
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:04,000
belonging to the Bill nation. They're
not the kemp Roth people of years

516
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:07,840
ago. They belonged to like Tom
Cotton, for example, he introduced the

517
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,920
bill and went on TV to promote
himself about making pharmaceuticals in America or in

518
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,679
North America or are somewhere close by, right, Yeah, And they talked

519
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:21,760
and talked back when the virus came
and they never did it. And what

520
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,079
they do is they think you the
listener right there, forgot about it.

521
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:28,679
But he didn't or he didn't they
didn't forget, they know, and so

522
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,320
what's happening in Mississippi. We know
for a fact, my wife's nodding,

523
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:37,199
there are specific drugs that you cannot
get for cancer people in Mississippi because there's

524
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:43,199
a shortage because the ingredients come out
of communist China. So that would be

525
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,239
a bill that I would pass.
And by the way, no, this

526
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,840
is the mistake of like bringing semiconductors
back, the bill that Senator Biden put

527
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,760
forth, Senator President Biden put forth
recently about semiconductors and Intel, the ship

528
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,079
bill. It's about the chip bill, the Anti inflation bill, whatever they

529
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:02,639
want to call these things anti inflation. But but but those bills happen when

530
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:07,559
they don't need to happen, when
when we give subsidies to giant companies with

531
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,000
lots of money. Seriously, it
can just be. It could just be

532
00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:16,079
a simple bill that says by twenty
twenty seven, sixty five percent of semiconductors

533
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:22,039
used by the federal government will be
made in North America. Blah blah blah.

534
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:25,360
This is we are the richest country. They will be made here.

535
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:30,920
People will do it. They don't
need subsidies when they have Navidio doesn't need

536
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:34,800
subsidies to kind of open up a
plan here. Neither just micron technology,

537
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,440
but to drugs, we need to
tell we need to pass a lore that

538
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:43,440
says X percentage of these drugs may
either Again I'm not the expert in which

539
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,000
drugs, sure, which ingredients I'm
not, but not all of them,

540
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,920
well all of them general law for
prescription drugs, all of them would be

541
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,360
great. But if it was like
we got ninety percent of it done,

542
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:58,840
whatever, but they were made in
North America, or if not North America

543
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:02,320
in the UK, you know,
in Puerto Rico, which is North America

544
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,320
obviously, but remember Puerto Rico had
lots of these facilities. Yes, I

545
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,000
liked your idea that you said earlier. We were about telling them that they

546
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:15,840
can't charge more here than they're charging
in other countries. And that's a different

547
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,199
thing for the drugs themselves, but
for the ingredients that are made in China

548
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,039
and other places, they need to
be re short now to let people know.

549
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,280
This is what I don't stand about
politicians. The theory of globalization.

550
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,199
We invented after Night after the World
War Two. We invented as Americans because

551
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,519
we didn't have any consumers outside America. And if the Europe didn't recover and

552
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:44,079
wasn't protected by the only navy that
could protect the transport of these wears back

553
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,000
and forth. Then we wouldn't be
able to build these countries and be able

554
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,280
to export to them. So we
did fine. But even twenty years ago,

555
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,639
that was ending globalizations totally dead.
I can tell you when I was

556
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:58,239
at Harvard Business School, for example, and I shouldn't have been admitted at

557
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,920
twenty two. I didn't have any
work experience. Well so, but I

558
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:06,079
remember saying the people when the whole
thing back then was just in time inventory.

559
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:08,000
You might have heard of this out
of yeah, oh yeah. Everybody

560
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:14,320
was going to have faster inventory turns, less accounts receivable so they would have

561
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,480
more short term profits. I remember
raising my hand in Production Operation management class.

562
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,320
The average ages twenty seven. I'm
twenty two, and I raised my

563
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,480
hand and I said something like,
so, Professor Bishop, what if you

564
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:30,960
really need the stuff? Like you
know? And that's exactly what's been happening

565
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,719
with pharmaceutical That's why there are medication
shortages, that's why they were out of

566
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,440
tailant off, that's why we ran
out of children's ivory profit exactly. And

567
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,880
so but here to the answer to
the question is just simply this. Tom

568
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,599
Cotton and his buddies in Washington thought
you forgot about it. And Maria about

569
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:50,800
to Romo on ENDBS or whatever channel
she's on, and the people that see

570
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,440
and Andrew Fox, they in a
half hour news cycle moved to a different

571
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,000
topic and he didn't even pass it. They didn't even try to pass it.

572
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,360
They don't really care. They don't
really care whether you get the drug,

573
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,000
and otherwise they would have passed the
bills. By the way, go

574
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,840
look up times shortages right now.
Yes, I know a friend of mine

575
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:14,360
has a child that needs a particular
medication and they've had to hunt. They

576
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,079
found it once, only in name
brand two hundred bucks. It's happening every

577
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:22,079
everywhere, everywhere, Jenny, and
it's ridiculous. There is no reason for

578
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,760
So why not by law past you
know, we can get together and do

579
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,960
this. A president needs to do
this. This is what has to happen.

580
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Yeah, a president needs to he
needs to get around. He used

581
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,679
to visit Jenny one day and said, Jenny, we disagreeing, blah blah

582
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:34,760
blah, but we agree on this. Help me. And Jenny says,

583
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,719
okay, I'll help you on this. You know, I'll call my congressman

584
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,840
and we'll get that kind of bill
passed and help unify the country a little

585
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,599
bit. I'm still waiting for Trump's
I'm still waiting for Trump's respirators. We

586
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,480
weren't going to have that problem anymore. We were going to build our own,

587
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,519
our own machines, so we would
never run out of events. We're

588
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:57,000
going to have our own events.
That doesn't happen. I think your money

589
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,199
that is all back to normal.
Yeah, I know. They just wait

590
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,119
until you don't not you personally,
and wait till they think people want paying

591
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:07,440
attention. They have no intention of
passing these bills. So we need a

592
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,239
president. And if I'm only able
to change the shooting match so someone actually

593
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,320
does this, I haven't done my
job. We've got to change the nature

594
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,840
of the debate. I know we
talked just about healthcare, but when it

595
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,440
comes to social security, our young
people. Anybody listening to the show who's

596
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,599
under forty or forty or under,
just to make up a number. You

597
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:25,599
make a hundred grand, you make
fifty grand, you make twelve grand.

598
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,079
All you know is on your pay
stub that they took out six percent and

599
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:31,639
you may kind of known, you
should know that an extra six percent was

600
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:36,480
taken up by the employer that would
have gone to you. Right, So

601
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,360
you go visit, you know,
a financial platter. I don't know.

602
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,840
You go wherever. If you're wealthy, you go to somebody. If you're

603
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,280
not wealthy, but that's what the
financial planner looks you and say that's great,

604
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,599
that's great, Joe. Thanks,
you're making fifty grand, you're doing

605
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:50,079
well, you're making one hundred grand, making one hundred and twenty fick whatever.

606
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,639
But we're not going to count social
Security in your retirement. You really

607
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:58,039
won't get it. And you're like
and everybody listening to the show forty and

608
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,960
I'm just like, okay, this
should be like new riot situations. People

609
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,440
should be marching down the street.
You make fifty grand, they took six

610
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:07,480
grand. They never you're never getting
it back. Let's not forget the part

611
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,320
of the way that we got there
is the fact that politicians dipped into money

612
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,679
they didn't belong in. Well,
the money was never set aside, goes

613
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:22,920
back to the lockbox. Yes,
not actually dedicated, never been dedicated.

614
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,599
Uh and and when and when we
started social security? Not we but when

615
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,039
it started, there were fifteen workers
for one retiree. So at Steve Laughy

616
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:35,440
dot com you do see Jenny's a
complete two page preport. Not just my

617
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,880
idea, but Larry kott Lakoff,
the war renown expert on social security,

618
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:42,320
who who we don't agree with that
a lot. I don't agree with a

619
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,519
lot of things. Again, we're
great friends, and I just talked to

620
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:47,360
them, but we agree, and
I adopted his plan because see, I'm

621
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,400
not really an inventor. I'm not
a guy who comes up with a lot

622
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,519
of like I didn't invent like aspirate
or something. Right, I'm a guy

623
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:59,000
who really knows how to adopt best
practices and get really good people to run

624
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:02,119
them. Unlike what's happening today right
where they have been Trump's administration too,

625
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:07,159
there's not really good people running things
who know what they're doing. And I

626
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,360
get people to do that and we
get results. I don't I don't know

627
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,199
that this is the purple fixed thing
here. I don't have personal security system.

628
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:17,440
Yes, I explain it to the
layman, Okay, yeah, I

629
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,000
want. I wanted to ask you
to because I know we talked about this

630
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:22,840
last time. But if you could
refresh our memories, because what you remember

631
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,639
from our previous conversation, what you
describe to me sounded like privatization. It

632
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,599
wasn't, but it wasn't, But
I don't remember. I'll tell you how

633
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:35,960
you explain it. So if so, just very quickly, we have a

634
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:40,480
sixty one trillion dollar problem, nearly
double the national debt, justin SO Security

635
00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:45,079
alone. And that is simply the
amount of money that we are going to

636
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:49,079
collect to pay people versus what we
said we're going to pay them. So

637
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:53,719
it's sixty one trillion dollars in arrears. So that's a real problem. In

638
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,880
fact, that's our biggest problem.
And so the way to solve it is

639
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,719
to tell everybody who's sixty two and
old who's on SO Security, are about

640
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,239
to get it. You got whatever
we said, you're gonna get woo.

641
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,840
Tell everybody else whatever you've got in
your last Social Security letter, you're gonna

642
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:13,719
get that. Then let's move quickly
to the twenty year old who's not in

643
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,800
any programming, just stots a job, twenty two graduates, college eighteen,

644
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:21,079
whatever. Stot's a job. That
person's in another system. They never get

645
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:24,800
into the old system. They put
away ten percent of their money they actually

646
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,360
own it, and that before the
age of sixty two, they die their

647
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,000
ears whatever they have and they will
get it. It's social security is an

648
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,440
extremely sexist thing. And I don't
know why people don't know it. I

649
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,880
don't know why people don't talk about
it. But for example, you have

650
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,360
to be married a certain amount of
years. If if let's just say a

651
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,800
man and a woman get married,
Let's say the woman makes a hundred grand

652
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,079
and the and the and and the
man stays when they have children, but

653
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,039
usually it's the other way around.
But the woman's not working. But they

654
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:55,599
don't be married for four years,
she doesn't get any of these social security

655
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:59,639
of the man. She's been married
for four years, he went out and

656
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,280
made a h grant. He keeps
it all. Huh, that's it.

657
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,480
That's by the way, that's how
it is. Yeah. I remember you

658
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:07,079
talking about it last time, and
I was surprised. I could. There's

659
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:09,320
the way the way Larry cut look
could sit here. You should have him

660
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,760
on, he'll call in, he'll
do twenty of these things. Yeah.

661
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:15,719
But but but what still this very
day, nobody knows that but me and

662
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,719
Larry cut look up. But it
seems crazy. So so in this system,

663
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,039
you get married, just make it. You get married at thirty,

664
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:27,039
you're both thirty. You get married
for four years, you make a hundred

665
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:31,039
he or she makes forty. You
split whatever you're making. It goes into

666
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:35,559
your account. It's one hundred and
forty times points whatever. And then you

667
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:37,840
get divorced. Unfortunately, I dont
wan anybody get the divorce, but they

668
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,480
get it now. It's very easy. You kept half, if she made

669
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,639
more, he made more, whatever. But remember, you don't touch it.

670
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:45,440
I want to get to why,
by the way, you don't touch

671
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,760
it. I want to get to
why it's not privatized. It's extraordinarily important

672
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,760
because what happened in two thousand and
eight was disaster for America, and that's

673
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,519
why people don't have money. But
you go all the way to sixty two

674
00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:01,159
and we stopped. You could have
buy treasury adjusted for inflation, tips,

675
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:06,800
we could buy you annuities, whatever. And now you get to be seventy

676
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:12,599
and now because we invested it properly, not giving it away to somebody else.

677
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,559
It's in an account, it's in
one giant computer. Charles Schwab,

678
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:19,880
Merrill Lynch. Never touch it.
There are no brokers, there's no four

679
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,599
oh one K plan, there's no
privatization. But it's invested in for forty

680
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,559
years in a worldwide basketball stocks,
bonds, blah blah blah blah blah blah

681
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:30,639
blah whatever. Right trees, timber
in New Zealand. The whole thing's very

682
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:34,639
easy to do. It's not hard
to do these days, and now by

683
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,079
any means, by any forty year
period. I wrote a paper about this

684
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:39,920
in nineteen eighty three of Bodeen College. I've been thinking about it for a

685
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,400
long time an economics class. You
have a lot more money. You have

686
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,880
a lot more money than the two
thousand dollars the check says you're going to

687
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,840
get when you turn sixty two.
What are you doing with the fifty year

688
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,360
olds? The fifth's this is the
question. So the fifty year old,

689
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,480
the forty seven, they go into
two program. The fifty year old got

690
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:00,880
a letter from Social Security. When
you get to be sixty two. I'm

691
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,280
just gonna say sixty two now,
because that's the first time you can get

692
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,880
it right. Or full of retirement
age is sixty five, and you're gonna

693
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,920
get eighteen hundred dollars. You're gonna
get that, totally gonna get that.

694
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:14,559
But you go into the new program. Also at fifty, now you only

695
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:20,760
have twelve years in a new program. Theoretically, could you get less.

696
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,599
The answer is yes, theoretically you
could get less. There could be one

697
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:30,719
really horrific twelve year program where everything
in the world goes down. I haven't

698
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,920
seen that twelve years ever happened,
but it could be. Yeah, you

699
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,760
need more time. But my program's
really for the twenty year old. And

700
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,000
here's the thing I want to tell
people. I want to be very there

701
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:44,159
is no other way. If someone
has a better solution than what I have,

702
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:49,599
I'm all in. But I'm relying
on the guy, the number one

703
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:53,639
guy in social security in the world. There's nobody like Larry Kotlikoff who's written

704
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:57,320
more books, more articles, got
his PhD. By the ways, the

705
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,840
left of center guy. We are
by our give it should be on.

706
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,280
He always tells me, Steve,
if you thought about it longer, I

707
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,880
think you'd come up. I said, like, I thought about it,

708
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,480
it's so long. I know twelve. I know you're twelve years older than

709
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:10,760
me, but I can't think about
it any longer. We just disagree,

710
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,000
but See, that's the thing about
this country. We should be able to

711
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,239
people disagree. Yeah, you and
I disagree on certain things. Right now,

712
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,840
it's totally fine. We can drink
a malt milkshake at the end.

713
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,320
Who cares so. But that was
the way everybody did. But we got

714
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,480
I know they don't do it anymore
than But that's what Larry and I do.

715
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:32,360
And that's why I adopted his position. Not because it's popular among Republicans,

716
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:37,800
not because it saves everybody and everybody
gets more. The whole theory where

717
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,800
everybody gets more is always wrong things
to fix something. That's why, by

718
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,199
the way, nobody's gonna sit here
and say I'm gonna fix Social Security without

719
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:50,119
saying something like I said, because
you never fix a collburetor without giving someone

720
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:55,119
money. When you people say save
Green Span in eighty three, I'm gonna

721
00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:00,239
save Social Security. You people say
save You forgot about that guy? Yeah,

722
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,519
he said he fixed it and fixed
at whatever eighty three. He was

723
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:05,519
wrong. He did it anyway.
I could tell you stories to story.

724
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,639
This is what I really actually know
of the boast. So is there a

725
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:14,239
point where a forty seven year old
could get theoretically less than yes, but

726
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,159
I'm not here for everybody. I'm
here for the middle class because that's where

727
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:22,000
I come from. And I'm here
for younger people because we've totally hosed them.

728
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,760
That's all our money for president,
for every one of my programs is

729
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,000
about that. Whether you go to
the Federal Reserve, want to look at

730
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:30,280
it, it's not here. I'm
not here for rich people. The Federal

731
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,239
Reserve is there for rich people.
The Federal Reserve knew that was going to

732
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,079
be inflation. They told you they
didn't know. They lied. Anybody with

733
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,679
a brain knew that was going to
be inflation. Everybody knows what causes inflation.

734
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:45,360
It's money. It's not supply side
shocks. It's not a Ukraine war.

735
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:49,960
Anybody took one economic course and not
everybody did. Has to know that

736
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,679
the economy is made up of government
g I, investment, SE consumption and

737
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,599
exports minus inports, which I have
always been dragging as down because of China.

738
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:06,199
They're dragging out GDP growth down by
one to two percent per year cumulatively

739
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:12,840
for thirty years. So that's what
it is. And so if indeed there's

740
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,880
not any more money, something gives. But if the Fed prints more money.

741
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,320
Nothing gives for a while, and
everybody has a sugar rush. Yeah,

742
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,840
and now the sugar rush is over, and it's really a financial crisis.

743
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,440
And by the way, it's gonna
get a lot worse. The banking

744
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,519
problem is so bad it's gonna get
a lot worse. And by the way,

745
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:38,719
the situation and Jenny would like this, the situation said, well,

746
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,400
I can just tell the situation to
fix the banks is limited purpose banking.

747
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:46,679
We have to break up the banks. Now you're sitting talking to a very

748
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:52,239
conservative guy. We're going to break
up the banks. JP Morgan, the

749
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,000
guy runs it, became a billionaire
doing nothing, nothing but getting better deals

750
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,960
than you could get, nothing but
big lobby and course, nothing but paying

751
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:04,079
giant fines. And I'll give you
another promise. If I am president,

752
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,559
we are never settling a white collar
crime and letting them pay a fine.

753
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:15,559
If I charge you in my Justice
department, charges you with misleading customers,

754
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,880
taking those loans and not selling him
to Finland. Go look at the fines

755
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,559
that JP Morgan is paid since two
thousand and nine. It's a third of

756
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:28,719
their pretax income for like the first
seven years. Jamie Diamond should have been

757
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,679
charged as a CEO and Brooke to
court the guy at Wells Fargo. Here's

758
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,159
what they really did with the banks. Banks five top five banks two thousand

759
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:45,079
and eight have thirty three percent of
American assets today seventy percent. Why yes,

760
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,559
Graham dot Why they made the regulation
so huge? Go look up the

761
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:52,760
articles. I'm sure I know about
it in May and other states, but

762
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,239
I'm in New Hampshire today. You
could probably go find all the articles where

763
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,679
I make up the name Manchester will
and trust. A trust department part of

764
00:52:01,679 --> 00:52:05,960
a local bank had to sell.
They couldn't do the paperwork and stay in

765
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,000
bit. They sold the JP Morgan. They had to sell it. They

766
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:13,760
couldn't. They made the rules so
onerous that they're putting out of out of

767
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,599
there, putting out of business to
local banks. Yeah. What we need,

768
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:20,320
by the way, our banks to
be really small, and the way

769
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,880
it works is going to be this. You come in. Your name is

770
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,559
Jimmy. You live outside in a
farm outside of Banchester and and and the

771
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:29,920
best loan, by the way,
is to someone you know, right,

772
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,480
you know, not repackaging loans and
selling them to Finland. So you come

773
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,119
in. Your father's been a farmer
you're a farmer. You come in and

774
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:39,639
they know they know you. You
want to buy a one hundred acres of

775
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,480
land. You've got twenty thousand dollars
to put down. There's a meeting.

776
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,880
Yeah, that guy. But here's
what we tell you at the bank.

777
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:51,519
This cash mutual funds. By the
way, there's eight thousand cash mutual funds.

778
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:54,360
You may invested them mutual funds,
right, they could be bond mutual

779
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,599
funds. They could be, but
they're all cash. There's no leverage the

780
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,440
mutual fund. Joe might own navidias
different stocks. How many of those went

781
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:08,199
bankrupt in two thousand and eight?
The answer zero. We gave the banks

782
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:13,119
all, well, how many hundreds
of billions of dollars aig all this stuff?

783
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,960
Right, totally unnecessary. By the
way, airlines, don't get me

784
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,159
start our airlines. Oh yeah,
bailed out everybody but a regular American exactly.

785
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,960
And the first time we go after
that student loans, well, we

786
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:29,079
bailed out everybody but the regular person
in two thousand and eight. And for

787
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,280
example, airlines, wasn't that the
year that they were talking about giving money

788
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,880
to us. But then the thing
was, oh, we're afraid they'll just

789
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,800
put it in the bank and they
won't spend I remember that. Yeah,

790
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,760
but there's no need to. Actually, you can't just keep sending money to

791
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,960
Peoplet's call it inflation. But what
I'm saying is that these large oligopolies,

792
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:54,079
kleptocracies, whatever we want to phrase, they're running things. And that's why,

793
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:57,639
by the way, not to get
onto the candidates, why does you

794
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:00,800
think Rod de Santis announces with the
we're just in in the world. It's

795
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:06,440
got the most money and they still
fund it and they still loved it to

796
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:13,039
come out perfect. But so mister
anti woke was very woke because you know

797
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:19,800
his name again too, well,
it's it's de Santisis. But again,

798
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,480
this is all like a script.
The only candidate that's not on a script

799
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:25,159
is me sitting here with you saying
I don't know the answer to every question.

800
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:29,440
I disagree with you on this,
but here's some major things to have

801
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:34,119
to happen for America to thrive again. One would be again Jenny would like

802
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:37,760
this. I'm joking up by the
way. Here, By the way,

803
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:44,679
President Biden's added attacks that people don't
talk about too much. For for large

804
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:50,599
any corporations publicly traded corporations for buying
back stock their own stock to enrich their

805
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:52,400
shareholders in the short term. I
agreed with it. I thought it should

806
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,880
have been more stringent. Whoa,
I'm a Republican. No Republican agrees with

807
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,480
me. I've been talking about this
for years. Yeah, just so you

808
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:01,480
know, this is again what I
really do know some things I don't know.

809
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:07,840
When you buy back stock above book
value, what the stated book as

810
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,840
its mind slide ability, just be
very simple, you're lowering the book value.

811
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,239
But look at American Airlines bailed out
in two thousand and eight. The

812
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,639
CEO, new CEO comes in,
they get that money, people stop flying.

813
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:23,960
Boo boo boop. He buys back
all the stock to enrich himself and

814
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:29,800
the CEOs of the presidents and the
high management people right with the stock options.

815
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,880
He leaves the stock really hasn't gon
up. He's got like fifty billion

816
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,239
dollars. What happens in twenty twenty
they don't have any money. Who bails

817
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,880
them out? Jenny does again.
And what the people have to understand this

818
00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:47,199
one thing that they'll never tell you, but it's so obvious. Jets,

819
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,239
American Airlines, Delta Airlines. They
go broke. The planes still fly.

820
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:59,559
Yeah, they're still investigated and kept
safe by the FAA. They're just the

821
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:04,960
stock holders went to zero. Nothing
about the planes. Nobody takes a hammer

822
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,039
and start smashing the plane. There's
some thought process that we have to save

823
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:15,559
the airline stock price because the planes
won't fly. The planes always fly.

824
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,760
People like Steve Laughy, that's me, go buy them guys who went to

825
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:23,960
go buy the whole company for one
eighth fine, But that's not what happens

826
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:29,280
in America. We spend all this
money bailing out large ceo. So they're

827
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,159
very, very wealthy. By the
way, do you know what the average

828
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:38,760
pay because of this for the CEOs
of corporations in America is now three hundred

829
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,400
times the average worker in their company. It used to be thirty six.

830
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:46,440
Yeah, Now thirty six seems like
a lot. Yeah, three hundred seems

831
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:52,000
like wrong. Yeah. And so
these are the things that happened. The

832
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:57,519
guy makes instead of United Healthcare ad
same thing. By the way, they

833
00:56:57,559 --> 00:57:00,000
announced an eight billion dollar profit in
the first three line. I bet you

834
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:02,599
I don't know the answer for that
particular company, but I bet you that

835
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,280
buying backstock with it not giving it
back to shareholders or lowering party a party

836
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,199
for their shareholders. They were very
proud of how much profit they made on

837
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,440
the backs of dead people. Well, and there's nothing. I mean again,

838
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:16,960
I'm not against them making money,
but buying backstock Joe Biden. President

839
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:22,079
Briden was totally right. My Republican
Party is totally wrong, and I would

840
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:25,400
actually make it more onerous. I
have an honest question for you. Yes,

841
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,760
what do American health insurance companies bring
to the table to make health care

842
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:37,679
better? One? They do bring
the ability to put all the course levels

843
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:40,760
together and see what's happening with all
of their customers and sickness and health.

844
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,159
Right, they do bring. I
mean, there are things that they bring

845
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:47,960
together by being large rather than not
having it at all. Right. So,

846
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:52,840
Two, there is a profit incentive
within these companies, but a lot

847
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,360
of them, by the way,
hospitals, there's nothing. Again, I'm

848
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,559
talking to you. I think you'd
like this, but I really have this

849
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:04,079
real problem with nonprofit fits where CEOs
make more than fifty thousand dollars. Yeah,

850
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:06,960
because these nine profits I hear you. I hear you on that.

851
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:09,920
But health insurance companies, I would
argue, do not do a single thing

852
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:15,440
to improve positive outcomes and healthcare.
Whether they make a profit for themselves certainly

853
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:20,159
doesn't make healthcare better. And whatever
pool you're talking about, I'd rather have

854
00:58:20,199 --> 00:58:23,119
that in the universities where they are
and where our doctors and teaching hospitals,

855
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:27,960
or reviewing charts on the front lines, where they're talking about what's going on

856
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,239
in our society, what we see, what we might need to invest in

857
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:36,280
to keep the public healthy. My
health insurance company literally does not one single

858
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,559
thing to do anything to increase a
positive outcome. They're not ahead of you

859
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:45,239
going, oh, we saw your
cholesterol was this, So hey, come

860
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,760
on, we're going to come and
do something with you. If they don't

861
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:52,760
do any of that, I go
to the doctor, doctor bills the insurance

862
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:58,159
company, insurance company nicol and dimes. My doctor denies things, puts more

863
00:58:58,199 --> 00:59:00,519
of the bill on me, and
then report an eight billion dollar profit in

864
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:05,840
three months. What are they doing
to help American size society be better or

865
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,159
very healthy? I see zero?
I know you see zero. There are

866
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:14,239
things that obviously, there are a
lot of good people who work at all

867
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,920
these different places, who are who
are really trying. They really think I

868
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,360
think the system like you think is
broken. We have different ways to start

869
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,239
fixing it. I would start with
the prescription drugs in the patent system and

870
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,800
then keep moving. I think those
are two things that would unify the country.

871
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:32,519
I would think a lot of care
to every American, so everybody's getting

872
00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:37,360
the appropriate care they need, and
therefore they're less costly on our system because

873
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,559
they're kept better healthy and they have
better access. I gotta, I got,

874
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:45,039
and I won't even I won't.
I won't retort because we've already said

875
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:47,880
it. But but I think,
but I think we all agree Lorian prescription

876
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:51,480
drug prices, it would be a
good thing. By the way, Steve

877
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:54,440
is why, um, because something
I was reading about recently. Uh the

878
00:59:54,639 --> 01:00:00,360
uh so you know we use taxpayer
money to fund fiser and uh sure it

879
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:07,599
was the other Uh listen a lot
of tagger it might have been all I'm

880
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:14,079
not sure a taxpayer money to pay
for these And now those are not going

881
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:17,400
to be distributed free anymore. Apparently, I'm not sure when that starts.

882
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,599
But people are gonna have actually have
to start paying for those. But but

883
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:23,920
we already paid for the development of
those vaccines. And I'm you know,

884
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,599
I'm very grateful, But I don't
know that's a that's that's a very valid

885
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:31,119
it's a very valid point. I
totally get that one. Now I actually

886
01:00:31,159 --> 01:00:37,159
take a step farther. The vaccine
was not a vaccine. And I don't

887
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:39,280
want to argue whether people should I
got vaccinated if you didn't get vaccinated,

888
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,159
it's not even the argument. But
the vaccine wasn't a vaccine. When you

889
01:00:43,159 --> 01:00:47,320
get a polio vaccine, you don't
get polio. This was more of a

890
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:52,960
shot. I have no idea when
they told it was that the shot for

891
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,400
the Chinese virus was going to be
a vaccine. Why the federal government hasn't

892
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,519
going back to I don't understand your
logic and why it's not a vaccine.

893
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,239
Well, a vaccine to me would
mean that you don't get it at all.

894
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,880
No, that but that's not how
vaccines work at all. I thought.

895
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:12,239
I thought, that's not how vaccines
work. For example, um,

896
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,880
you can you can be given the
chicken pox vaccine and years down the road

897
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,159
you go to be a work in
healthcare and they draw tighter on you and

898
01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:22,920
it's not so great, not so
great. So maybe no, No,

899
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,039
I mean, a vaccine can't don't
don't get a vaccine like that can wear

900
01:01:25,079 --> 01:01:29,280
Well, if that's why you get
a shingle shot, which is a vaccine

901
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,960
for chicken pox as an adult age
fifty, which I got. So,

902
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:37,480
but a vaccine like anyway, Well
no, no, here's the thing I

903
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:39,440
want to say. This is the
part that's not that is relevant. Why

904
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:45,039
wouldn't the federal government go back and
say, you told us the efficiency effect

905
01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:51,880
the effectiveness of this particular what's called
vaccine was x and it wasn't. They

906
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,199
never made hard claims. We had
guesses, but it's science. You have

907
01:01:55,239 --> 01:02:01,119
to see how it pans out.
They made high claims that people who got

908
01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:05,840
this shot and got it twice would
not get the Chinese virus, the covid.

909
01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:08,840
They did. People did that,
many, many, many people did

910
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:15,480
reduce the rick of dying from the
disease. That's sort of vaccine is to

911
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:17,400
keep you from dying. No,
that's like a flu shot, a flu

912
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,920
shot. You can get the flu
shot and still end up with a low

913
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:22,800
version of the flu. And that's
why we don't call it a vaccine.

914
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:29,440
It's just a flu shot. It's
it's called a vaccination by your doctor.

915
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,480
No, no, no, a
flu shot is not a vaccination. My

916
01:02:32,599 --> 01:02:36,719
point is that we should go We
should have went back to Defiser and said

917
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:39,599
what you told this didn't turn out
to be true, So what pay us

918
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:42,920
back? Pay us some of it
back. We gave you a lot of

919
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:45,440
I think that the vaccines should be
free to all Americans. I didn't say.

920
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,920
I didn't say shouldn't be free to
all Americans because we funded it.

921
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,840
I didn't say that at all.
That's that's what I'm saying. I'm saying,

922
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:57,000
Defiser, you told those X,
but you delivered. Why. That's

923
01:02:57,039 --> 01:03:00,800
not that's not that's not appropriate.
It's like the doctor says we can do

924
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:05,320
X and it's got a fifty percent
chance of saving you, or it doesn't

925
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,239
work that way. It's science.
You have to you have to put it

926
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:10,920
into into practice and see what it
happens, and monitor outcomes and see where

927
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:15,639
we go. Nobody ever gave any
guarantees that one shot and done. We

928
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:20,119
all hoped it could be. I'll
hoped it could be, but it didn't

929
01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:22,360
turn out that way. The science
didn't. It's science. I mean,

930
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:25,440
it's right. But if you go
back and look at what Fizer said at

931
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:30,320
the beginning, they said this was
really going to work. And doctor Fauci

932
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,360
said, this is really gonna work. It's really gonna be a vaccine,

933
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,519
and you won't get it. Doctor
Fauci said this. We all hoped it.

934
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:42,199
Well, he said it. The
head of our health department said it.

935
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,519
He didn't hope it. We didn't
say. I hope it works.

936
01:03:44,719 --> 01:03:46,800
I always had hope. I never
had like a you can have hope.

937
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,920
I unders telling you what they said. They were wrong. Oh, I

938
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,320
don't know. Well, here we
are. On the other hand, we

939
01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:57,920
lost four million instead of eight million. Could have been maybe less than that

940
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,000
if we didn't have a crazy I
think it. I think it worked out

941
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,000
pretty well. Actually I did.
I agree with I think it should stay

942
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:09,079
free to everybody. Yeah. I'm
not trying to be paid for it,

943
01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:13,079
so we should always get to have
it. Yeah, I just yeah,

944
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:15,840
exactly. I mean that was my
may. I don't underst that may have

945
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,760
been again, we could let's stop
here. That's right, because we started

946
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:24,719
to trial a dual a dual m
RNA vaccine that's covid and flew together.

947
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,400
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. M r and m vaccines were

948
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:34,000
vaccines that they've been studied for way
before. COVID. This disadvancements in breast

949
01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:39,400
cancer that are insanely cool have been. It was being studied before COVID,

950
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,360
and then COVID wrapped up that science, and now they're looking at some some

951
01:04:43,559 --> 01:04:48,199
serious potential benefits of retroducing some of
the more serious or the more common breast

952
01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:51,320
cancers. So I have a lot
of hope in them. Yeah, well

953
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,719
good, We're good. We are
see if we can. You've been very

954
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:59,239
generous with your your time. We're
actually passed the top of we can we

955
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,079
can. Yeah, it it's after
I'm gonna Yeah, you've got to go,

956
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:05,400
um anything. Uh, but can
I just ask you just a quick

957
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,440
question. I don't I haven't heard
you, and maybe we just haven't gotten

958
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,719
any of it. I haven't heard
you really talk about social issues much at

959
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,920
all. Really, I mean,
are you is that something? Not not

960
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,199
that I think you're avoiding any of
that, but but you know, like

961
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,559
de santiss I hear you you kind
of pick on him a little bit,

962
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:29,000
which is fine because I think the
guy's psycho um. But but you know,

963
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:32,280
I kind of get the impression you're
not you're not into that part of

964
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:39,199
it as much as you know you're
looking for practical solutions to America's uh financial

965
01:05:39,199 --> 01:05:43,199
issues and other things. But I
mean tell me because when when I like,

966
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,199
when I'm on your website, it
doesn't seem like you're bogged down in

967
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:49,000
the culture war stuff. I'm not. I just I'm pro life. I

968
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:53,239
was hoping that Roe Versus way would
be overturned. It was leave it up

969
01:05:53,239 --> 01:05:56,400
to the states and just move on. That's where it should be. Always

970
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,400
should have bet the States. I
said after a while that people won't talk

971
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,039
about it as much. I you
know, people go through horrific situations in

972
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:08,119
their own personal lives. But I
happen to be an evangelical Christian and I'm

973
01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:12,119
pro life. But that doesn't mean
like Tim Scott who just announced that whatever

974
01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:15,239
bill they put up my desk the
most stringer, no bills coming to my

975
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,559
desk. It's not coming to my
desk. No one's going to bring a

976
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:20,679
bill like that to my desk.
It was left to the states because it

977
01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:24,360
wasn't in the constitution. I talked
about it. Consist. See the thing

978
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,960
about me, I've said these things
for like twenty years straight. Like I

979
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:33,039
said the same thing about China about
social issues. Whatever the real problem in

980
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:38,199
America today is not that the real
problem in Americas that were out of money.

981
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,159
Yeah, and we're gonna and we're
broke, and everybody seems to be

982
01:06:42,159 --> 01:06:44,960
still running around hoping to be able
to sit down before the game of music

983
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,480
culture starts stops. But it's stopping
now. When I announced a month before

984
01:06:48,679 --> 01:06:53,920
SVB Bank went broke, I said, we're having a financial crisis now twenty

985
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,599
five seconds into my thirty second audio. I know this stuff. It's a

986
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:02,239
Times call for a a lawyer.
Get a lawyer, the Times call for

987
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:08,239
someone with six children who understands a
lot of these issues. Nose is a

988
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:12,239
financial crisis, has lots of empathy
for other people, doesn't want to go

989
01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:15,440
into the whole Marxist thing about democrats. Needs Democrats to move toward what he's

990
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,440
saying, so we can fix this
country some my children, your children,

991
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:24,639
your nieces can have an American dream
like I did. That's why I'm here.

992
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:27,920
That's what like when you when you
say that about like you know,

993
01:07:28,239 --> 01:07:31,239
you don't see much value in calling
Democrats Marxists and what That's that's what I

994
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,280
notice about you that I just think
is kind of different from where a lot

995
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:40,159
of the GOP is now because you
hear like again not to keep going back

996
01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:44,119
to desantist, but I hear desantists. He's constantly talking about the wokeism,

997
01:07:44,199 --> 01:07:46,199
and you know, and he lies, he lies about killing leftism. And

998
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,400
yeah, it's a lie to say
the SVB bank went broke because it was

999
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:55,800
woke. It's a it went broke
because it mismatch assets and liabilities on the

1000
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,760
duration of them. This is this
is like, we have to stop this.

1001
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,719
Yeah, but they raise money.
And that's why, by the way,

1002
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:05,000
I mean again on national defense.
Why do you think Ron de Santis

1003
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:08,400
not to pick on him, why
do you think him well, he's an

1004
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,760
opponent of yours. Why do you
think why why did Tucker Carlson ask him

1005
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:17,720
six questions about Ukraine? Some were
faults like that the year the USS the

1006
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:23,239
Russia's doing better the currencies it wasn't. It was a lie from Tucker Carlson.

1007
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:25,239
It wasn't doing better. But why
do you think he answered as a

1008
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:29,520
territorial dispute because Tucker Carlson thought it
was a territorial dispute because if he agreed

1009
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,000
with Tucker Carlson, he'll raise money. Tucker Carlson's wrong. Your train has

1010
01:08:33,079 --> 01:08:38,439
always been for many, many years
a very important part for Europe, from

1011
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,960
Ivan the Terrible through the Cossacks,
through Catherine the Great, right, so

1012
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,720
the so, so I know this
is what I know. Yeah, and

1013
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:51,199
it's it's an extraordinarily important part for
America today that Russia does not advance because

1014
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:57,039
once they advanced into Ukraine, they
will continue to advance and there'll be much

1015
01:08:57,039 --> 01:09:00,720
more likely in nuclear By the way, Ukrainie people to be free. We

1016
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,800
should help him. We're helping him, and we're not losing any soldiers,

1017
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,680
and we're using mostly used equipment that
we wouldn't use against China. I mean

1018
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,520
not to get into the tactics of
all this stuff, but yeah, but

1019
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,119
wow, to say that's a territory
dispute is Here's the thing about these people

1020
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:19,560
in politics today. He knows that's
wrong. Of course he still says it.

1021
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:24,079
Of Course, that used to disqualify
people from running. It doesn't anymore.

1022
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:28,319
Once Donald Trump got away with saying
whatever he wanted and became president,

1023
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,720
everybody and that's why he becomes the
mini Trump running for presidents. Republicans are

1024
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,119
a bunch of mini Trumps and a
guy named Steve. Laughy, I'm laughy.

1025
01:09:36,079 --> 01:09:39,279
No one's gonna agree with everything I
have to do, I say,

1026
01:09:40,119 --> 01:09:43,199
but I'm here to change the whole
shooting match of the debate if I can

1027
01:09:43,239 --> 01:09:45,479
do it one last time. At
the age of sixty one. Well,

1028
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,960
I still remember all the names of
my high school and elementary school teachers.

1029
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:54,000
Ah, you're only sixty one,
hey, listen, man, we keep

1030
01:09:54,039 --> 01:09:57,000
electing. I mean, jeez,
when we elected Trump, he was the

1031
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,039
oldest president that we'd had, and
then we elected somebody even older and Biden.

1032
01:10:00,359 --> 01:10:03,279
Yeah, so sixty one to me, I'm a spring chicken. You're

1033
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:08,960
a young you you you young whipper
snappers today you all want to be president.

1034
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,800
I don't know. All right,
Well, you're all good people.

1035
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,359
I appreciate you having me on,
and I appreciate the discussion. Yeah,

1036
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,880
I appreciate it. But I have
to say, maybe come back next time

1037
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,039
and not be a dictator who wants
to put your religion into my life,

1038
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:25,119
my womb, my body. I
don't not like women being a second class

1039
01:10:25,159 --> 01:10:28,039
citizen. Women are not second class, Oh they are, but they have

1040
01:10:28,079 --> 01:10:30,439
no control of their own body.
This is an a state's issue. This

1041
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,640
is an a federal issue. This
is a human body. You have no

1042
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:39,039
right to make any decisions about.
And I totally can take your religion and

1043
01:10:39,159 --> 01:10:43,720
keep it in your home, out
of the government. My religion is my

1044
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,079
religion. But I am pro life, and that's how I feel, and

1045
01:10:45,119 --> 01:10:48,560
that's what I'll always be. I'm
pro life. In fact, all Jewish

1046
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,680
people are. We're pro the life
that's here. You save the life that's

1047
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:58,560
here. You do not force a
ten year old child to carry around a

1048
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,680
rapist baby. Oh I didn't.
Oh no, no no, By the

1049
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,600
way, I've always had exceptions for
them. That's an exception. Okay,

1050
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,000
So when a man forces himself,
and maybe it's not exactly rape, it's

1051
01:11:06,079 --> 01:11:10,359
date rape. Is that a line? Is it a line when the fetus

1052
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,159
is dead and the body's not actually
letting the I know a woman to call

1053
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:18,359
herself a walking coffin for two weeks
because their body wouldn't allow an abortion to

1054
01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:21,960
happen, and the government said you
can't have one. They had to take

1055
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,920
her somewhere else in another state.
If you have proper medical care. Proper

1056
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:31,439
medical care is what we're talking about. It's not a little cell dividing a

1057
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,439
greater right to life than than than
a woman who's already here. I'm sorry,

1058
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,359
Oh, I didn't say that that. See, I don't want words

1059
01:11:38,359 --> 01:11:40,079
to be put in my mouth.
I didn't say that. I'm sorry it

1060
01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:43,279
makes you angry, but that my
abusition that has been around for my whole

1061
01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:45,279
life. When I was born,
I had all my rights intact. And

1062
01:11:45,359 --> 01:11:48,800
now as a woman, I'm horrified
that people younger than me do not have

1063
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:56,640
autonomy over their body. That there
are these people men in particular, who's

1064
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,239
no, no, no, there
are a great many women who totally agree

1065
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:01,640
with, including the ladies sitting right
over there. And that's all. Well,

1066
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:04,359
you can keep that in your house, but you can keep it out

1067
01:12:04,359 --> 01:12:08,840
of my exam room. Between me
and my doctor and my family. That's

1068
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,359
out of my care period, end
of it. You may. But it's

1069
01:12:13,359 --> 01:12:15,439
been cited now at the Supreme Court, and it's a matter for the states

1070
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,600
like it should have been. It's
a matter for each individual human and the

1071
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:23,079
government itself should never be a part
of that discussion in any way, shape

1072
01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:26,159
or form, be it federal or
state. Yeah, I disagree, you

1073
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:29,640
can disagree. Well we're yeah,
we're not going to come to agreement matter,

1074
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:32,159
but it's five fifteen. Do you
have time for a call? Yeah?

1075
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:36,199
So okay, my dad's on the
line called last time you were here

1076
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:41,239
too, if I remember correctly,
Hey Dad, Hey guys. UM,

1077
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,479
I'm not going to go into it, but I'm a right to life guy

1078
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:50,239
and I'll debate anybody anytime on that
one. That's distorted thinking and distorted language

1079
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:54,079
in my judgment. But that's not
why I'm calling. I want to say,

1080
01:12:54,119 --> 01:12:59,560
what a great dialogue. And I
do agree with Jenny about trying to

1081
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:05,399
come to a more federalized, quality, pro equality based program now and uh

1082
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:12,319
for for medical medical treatments. I've
watched the insurance companies over the years.

1083
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:15,479
You know, they would give me
or they'll say, after I go jump

1084
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,079
through all these hoops with them on
the phone and send them paperwork in the

1085
01:13:19,079 --> 01:13:25,079
Alpacia departments, they would Okay,
so they come back to me, thank

1086
01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:30,079
you, We're going to give you
six sessions three sessions in. They don't

1087
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:35,760
say I'm doing couples therapy or family
therapy or individual three sessions in. They

1088
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:41,800
don't call me, they don't send
me a letter. They call my client

1089
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,680
or clients and say, we think
you only need one more session and that's

1090
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,479
you know, I mean it's just
and and that's it for them, you

1091
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,359
know, because they can't afford anything, and we can't afford to help them

1092
01:13:51,359 --> 01:13:56,239
at the mental health center. So
just a couple of things I wanted to

1093
01:13:56,279 --> 01:14:00,399
say, Steve, I think you
sent me your mega hat, so I'm

1094
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:06,279
wearing that, you know, I
love your fourth rightness And a couple of

1095
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:13,760
things. You know, Um,
we are in grave financial uh jeopardy in

1096
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,520
this country right now, and politicians
on both sides of the Aisland. I'm

1097
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:21,840
glad you're meant you mentioned Cotton.
Cotton took across you know as a real

1098
01:14:23,119 --> 01:14:26,520
hero, but he doesn't do anything. You're right, he doesn't follow through

1099
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,399
and he's all out from mister Cotton, as so many of these politicians are.

1100
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,840
I mean, Lindsey Graham is still
talking about twenty sixteen like on TV.

1101
01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:40,199
Like what lindsay exactly? I mean, what's exactly? Who puts them

1102
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:45,720
on a show? Anyfore? What's
going on that I have to run?

1103
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,800
But I do appreciate, Oh you
guys doing this. Oh can I just

1104
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:53,119
say one of these things, you
know, because I get go back from

1105
01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:57,880
some some colleagues and a family member
not Matt, but another family member about

1106
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,800
this. But I have been saying
for the last two years, we need

1107
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:08,680
to get free of China and its
manipulation, from the fentanyl to the chips

1108
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,960
and all of that data. We
need to bring those manufacturing jobs and and

1109
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:18,439
technology jobs back to America. Corporations
don't like that, you know, I

1110
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:23,119
don't want to hear that. If
you sign my moving to show some guts

1111
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:25,800
prudence in leadership, I've been saying, I'm with you on that. It's

1112
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,960
good to hear you talking about that, and it's good that you guys had

1113
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,479
a great dialogue today on the radio. Yeah, we're gonna have I don't

1114
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:35,840
agree with everything, but I appreciate
dialogue. That's important. Absolutely calm and

1115
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:41,760
relaxed dialogue. I absolutely and I
learned and I learned from things when I

1116
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,520
like, especially healthcare, talking to
Jenny and her personal situations. I've been

1117
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,439
speaking about China, made a movie
about China. It's on my website what

1118
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,680
I wrote in twenty and eleven.
I didn't come around like Marco Rubio last

1119
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:58,720
month, like there's a warning shot
across our bow. Big giant American corporations

1120
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:04,039
have totally host the American Uh manufacturer
and cities. I'm not nowhere, I'm

1121
01:16:04,079 --> 01:16:09,159
not youngst and we got to bring
these manufacturer in Jack's back and guess what,

1122
01:16:09,279 --> 01:16:13,119
folks, they're coming back anywhere.
Let's lead it. Let's lead because

1123
01:16:13,159 --> 01:16:17,399
every new manufacturing job is four jobs. Yeah. Absolutely, but I've got

1124
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,920
to run to my next thing.
Okay, I got let you go,

1125
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:26,439
everybody, Thank you, great show
today, guys, Thank you all,

1126
01:16:27,039 --> 01:16:29,479
Thank you. Thanks for the call. Thank you, Steve. Did you

1127
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,920
want to plug? Where is that
a public event you're doing. I'm going

1128
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,720
to Goffstown to speak tonight to the
Republican Party. Okay, I don't know

1129
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:39,039
exactly where, but somewhere. Yeah, yeah, I have it somewhere,

1130
01:16:39,119 --> 01:16:41,359
but I gotta go there. And
I got to meet some people before.

1131
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,880
So it's been a good day.
By the way, I love being on

1132
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,880
stuff like this. I love arguing
and yeah, yeah, we appreciate having

1133
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,960
it. I learned more and that's
part of the country. We can't be

1134
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:54,359
a country any longer. Worst anybody
that can talk to me, I only

1135
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,760
we can't have a country where only
hang around with the Republicans. Most of

1136
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,359
my friends are like Learry call look
ups at demo Crab basically right. So,

1137
01:17:00,399 --> 01:17:03,439
I mean I just mentioned him,
but we disagree. I disagree with

1138
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,560
my buddies. Yeah, but we're
trying to make America better. But what's

1139
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,119
happening within my party especially, I
think, is they're not trying to make

1140
01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:16,960
America better. They're placating large donors
when they say stuff so they can get

1141
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:24,359
money. Yeah. Anyway, Steve
laugh, So I did share you into

1142
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,880
the into the chat room, yes, Lafferty, Lafferty laugh laugh. All

1143
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,319
right, Steve's gotta go and we'll
take a break and uh, we'll be

1144
01:17:31,439 --> 01:18:17,800
back. Thanks Steve. Hello,
everybody, welcome back. We are well

1145
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:24,199
in our number two numerow dose of
Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live from

1146
01:18:24,279 --> 01:18:30,279
the studios of WMNHEM in glorious downtown
Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast

1147
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:33,640
ninety seven if you're in Manchester,
and hello to all of our online listeners

1148
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,399
across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt

1149
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:41,319
Connerton dot com for all your live
streaming options, social media links, contact

1150
01:18:41,359 --> 01:18:45,560
in folk show archives, etcetera,
etcetera. Today is Tuesday May thirtieth,

1151
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,840
two thousand, twenty three, and
if you're just joining us. I do

1152
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:53,319
hope you all had a wonderful Memorial
Day weekend. By the way, for

1153
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:58,439
those watching online, let me grab
this quickly here for those watching online,

1154
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,039
and of course I'll describe it for
you if you're not watching obviously, the

1155
01:19:01,159 --> 01:19:05,800
bulk of the audience is listening audio
only. But if you are watching online,

1156
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,680
you can see this wonderful shirt that
that the big guy, the Big

1157
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:15,159
Boss gave me today. Very nice. It says, uh WMNH Radio ninety

1158
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:19,760
five point three FM staff black and
white shirt. Very cool. It's got

1159
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:25,199
an MPTS on the back and h
I just really like this shirt and I

1160
01:19:25,319 --> 01:19:30,680
was very happy to receive this from
the Big Boss, so I just wanted

1161
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:35,920
to publicly thank him for that.
Um and I'll probably wear it tomorrow.

1162
01:19:36,119 --> 01:19:42,319
Actually, yeah, it's a nice
shirt, very cool. H So and

1163
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,760
Jenny had to leave for a moment. She she'll be back. But if

1164
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,000
you'd like to join us on the
program, you can six zo three two

1165
01:19:48,079 --> 01:19:51,800
five six z seven. The studio
line is open six zo three two five

1166
01:19:53,039 --> 01:19:56,119
six zero seven. You can also
text me at six one seven nine one

1167
01:19:56,199 --> 01:20:00,520
seven four four seven six. I'm
on social media at Matt Honorton. You

1168
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,079
can email me Matt at Matt Connerton
dot com, and of course you can

1169
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:06,560
interact endo Pine in the Facebook live
chat and we'll say a lot everybody in

1170
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,760
there in a moment. But the
best thing to do so that we can

1171
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,760
hear and enjoy your dulcet tones is
give us a call at six two five

1172
01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:19,439
six seven, UM, and thank
you again to Steve Laughey for joining us

1173
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,560
today on the program. If you
miss it, of course it will be

1174
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:26,439
in the archive. He was very
generous with his time. He stayed uh

1175
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,199
later than he really could. He's
got a busy schedule, but uh uh

1176
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:33,600
so we we we kept him for
a bit, a bit longer than um

1177
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:38,159
then maybe would be ideal because he's
got other places to be, but no,

1178
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,439
we uh we enjoyed having him on. And up Jenny has returned.

1179
01:20:43,039 --> 01:20:46,119
I was just showing off my new
shirt for the those I love it for

1180
01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:50,119
those watching online on the Facebook.
Yes, very glad about that. Yes,

1181
01:20:50,319 --> 01:20:55,640
yes, we'll say a load everybody
in the Facebook live chat. Let's

1182
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,199
see Kyle Clayton is in the chat
room. Kyle, of course from the

1183
01:20:59,359 --> 01:21:01,960
Morning Show with Peter White. Would
you gin her weekday mornings from seven to

1184
01:21:02,119 --> 01:21:05,520
nine am here on WMNH, with
a replay from two to four pm.

1185
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:10,840
Right before this show, Hello Kyle, they had a great show this morning.

1186
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:15,119
I saw Kyle was on there.
Yes, Yes, Melanie, La

1187
01:21:15,279 --> 01:21:19,199
Liberty is in the chat room.
Melanie says, this is most of these

1188
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:24,840
comments. Of course, they're regarding
our conversation with Steve Laughey. Melanie said,

1189
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,319
Oh wait, this guy's the Bible
thumper that was on a few weeks

1190
01:21:27,399 --> 01:21:30,560
back. I don't know if that's
I don't know if it's fair to categorize

1191
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,720
him as that. Characterizing that way. Well, the thing is, I

1192
01:21:34,079 --> 01:21:38,680
when I hear like he doesn't go
out of his way to talk about it,

1193
01:21:40,279 --> 01:21:42,720
he went out of his way to
let us know that his religion belongs

1194
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,079
in government. I don't think so. When I hear Bible thumper, I

1195
01:21:45,119 --> 01:21:47,399
think of somebody who really goes out
of their way. I mean, it

1196
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,920
came up, It came up because
it came up. But I don't know.

1197
01:21:51,039 --> 01:21:55,640
I think that I think the definition
has evolved over time, and I

1198
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,439
think that you can legitimately call it
a personate Bible thumper. If they want

1199
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,920
their religion to be the law,
that runs your day, understand your life.

1200
01:22:03,119 --> 01:22:09,199
I would not ascribe that to him, but and I do get a

1201
01:22:09,239 --> 01:22:12,880
kick out of it when when that
somehow gets attributed back to Jewish people,

1202
01:22:13,039 --> 01:22:17,760
because that's not true. When what
does well? When the oftentimes people will

1203
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:23,840
try and like kind of almost marry
Christian to Judaism, and they're not one

1204
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:30,600
and the same, especially on the
abortion issue. Jewish people believe in the

1205
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,600
value you are. You are supposed
to do everything you can to preserve the

1206
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:40,239
life that is here, the one
right in front of you, not some

1207
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:45,439
cell dividing or whatever your belief system
might be. They don't believe that God

1208
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:50,520
sticks a magic finger onto the egg
and makes it burst into life. It's

1209
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:55,600
it's about perseverance of life is a
big deal. It's a big thing,

1210
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,039
and you should be preserving the life
that's already here. I'm preaching to the

1211
01:22:59,119 --> 01:23:02,119
choir. I know you feel that
way, But when somebody wants to go

1212
01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:06,600
to that level, wants to bring
their belief system into the laws of our

1213
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:12,760
nation and then make those decisions based
on their religious beliefs, because that's what

1214
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:20,359
it is. Under his religious belief
he sees the fertilized egg as having a

1215
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:29,279
greater right to life than the body
it is within. Yeah, Crystal in

1216
01:23:29,359 --> 01:23:32,399
the chat says our friend from Illinois. Are the pharmaceuticals still working on improving

1217
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:38,399
the COVID vaccine even if it's to
make it like the hepatitis vaccine where you

1218
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:43,520
may need a booster every ten years
or so versus like a year. I

1219
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,840
don't know. I do know though, that I'm going to have to I

1220
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,439
think it's going to be an annual
vaccine probably is what I think it's going

1221
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:57,720
to happen. Fiser is trialing a
dual inoculation that is influenza, the flu

1222
01:23:58,079 --> 01:24:00,520
and COVID. I do know.
I'm gonna have to cut that part out

1223
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:04,640
of the UH because we talked about
it. Now. You have to cut

1224
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,199
it out if you want to put
it on YouTube of the YouTube version,

1225
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:11,800
because then they'll take you down.
They're talking about the truth. There will

1226
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,479
be a separate No, I'm talking
about Well in this case, No,

1227
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,720
I'm talking about the conversation we were
having with Steve where that came up that

1228
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:25,159
section for the YouTube version, I'll
have to take that out because what he

1229
01:24:25,279 --> 01:24:30,720
was saying does not comport with science. What well and YouTube's UH yeah,

1230
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:39,600
guidelines on that got you um some
of Melanie's comments. Melody makes comments in

1231
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,840
the chat room to make it very
hard to talk on the microphone sometimes.

1232
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,399
Isaac Banks joins us in the Facebook
live chat Isaac of course from Greensboro,

1233
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:54,960
North Carolina. Isaac says, Hello, Amazon dot com. Why why is

1234
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:59,279
Isaac Banks plugging Amazon in our chat
room? Hey, they're not paying for

1235
01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:05,279
advertising in bucca. Yeah, my
friend Karen Edmonds from Greensboro, North Carolina

1236
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:10,880
and now she lives in Winston's Salem, North Carolina, and she wants that

1237
01:25:11,119 --> 01:25:17,800
package is earplugs, notebook pads,
DVD of heehaw in Boy George and culture

1238
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:25,640
club book as well for hashtag Karen
Edmonds April Edmonds, please talk to your

1239
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,520
sister. And she was telling me
she wants the package, and she called

1240
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,239
me on the phone yesterday. This
drama in the chat raw and then there's

1241
01:25:33,279 --> 01:25:38,399
a link to Amazon dot com in
there, so I get so Isaac Banks

1242
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:45,159
is trying to communicate this message to
Amazon that this Karen Edmonds wants her package

1243
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:48,760
apparently and is using an our chat
room. Our live chat room is a

1244
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:58,239
conduit for that communication. That is
fascinating all righty, then could somebody bring

1245
01:25:58,279 --> 01:26:00,960
me a chocolate shake? And I
can I throw that out there like a

1246
01:26:01,079 --> 01:26:06,640
chocolate chay Melanie says, Hey,
Matt asked him about evolution. Oh no,

1247
01:26:08,079 --> 01:26:15,359
uh, well not not Uh he
doesn't necessarily unt evangelical, dude,

1248
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:19,359
he believes it to the letter.
Even Pat Robertson, uh does not believe

1249
01:26:19,399 --> 01:26:23,000
in is not a creationist. Did
you know that? Yeah, we've talked

1250
01:26:23,039 --> 01:26:26,640
about that on the show before.
Even Pat Robertson, he says that Young

1251
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:31,520
Earth creationist, Sir naive, hm, um, you'd be surprised you.

1252
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,279
Oh, I shouldn't judge. We
don't know. We would have to ask.

1253
01:26:34,399 --> 01:26:41,159
No. I know I've known many
Christians who believe in evolution um or

1254
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,840
or or some will. You see
her a lot about intelligent design, which

1255
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,159
was sort of compromises. That was
the compromise. That was the compromise.

1256
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,039
Kyle. No, when I say
I think he believes everything, I think

1257
01:26:51,079 --> 01:26:56,199
he believes in like you know nowhere
in the Ark and that's how unicorns died.

1258
01:26:56,279 --> 01:26:59,319
Not necessari I mean a lot of
Christians will tell you, don't don't

1259
01:26:59,359 --> 01:27:02,079
take don't the Old Testament literally.
Actually, I think that's what I was

1260
01:27:02,159 --> 01:27:06,560
told at because you know, my
dad sent that's different, that sent me

1261
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,239
to Catholic school grade two to grade
eight. I think we were I think

1262
01:27:10,279 --> 01:27:13,800
we were kind of I don't know
if we were told overtly, but I

1263
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:18,560
think kind of implicitly it was communicated
to our These are these are stories in

1264
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:25,319
the Old Testament. These aren't necessarily
literal things that occurred. I from what

1265
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:29,680
I recall, the fire and Brimstone
preachers like to go right at the word

1266
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:32,359
well, yeah, I mean yeah, you've got uh yeah. Some some

1267
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,039
people who just take you want to
have your religion. You have your religion,

1268
01:27:36,119 --> 01:27:41,319
have whatever religion you'd like. All
the blessings to you. I'm happy

1269
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,119
for you. Do not put it
in the law that we have to live

1270
01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:46,439
under. Do you not try and
force your religion on everybody else? Can

1271
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:51,039
we learn anything from what goes on
overseas? Can we talk about Afghanistan for

1272
01:27:51,079 --> 01:27:55,920
a second? Archer Flight joins us
in the Chatman says, hello, they're

1273
01:27:55,960 --> 01:28:01,239
hashtag Matt and hashtag Jen. What
did we miss that we perform? Oh?

1274
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,920
We perform on June twenty fifth,
twenty twenty three, at Center City

1275
01:28:06,039 --> 01:28:13,039
Park at downtown Greensboro, North Carolina
is karaoke at four pm to seven pm.

1276
01:28:13,359 --> 01:28:17,600
We will sing and dance true hashtag
Matt and hashtag Jen. We say

1277
01:28:18,119 --> 01:28:25,640
we had a good Memorial Day yesterday, all right. And Ronda Favero,

1278
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:31,079
our friend from California also in the
Facebook live chat, and Melanie says,

1279
01:28:31,119 --> 01:28:34,079
I gotta go Hill Satan. Oh
my goodness, Wow, she's switching.

1280
01:28:34,279 --> 01:28:40,960
Look what's going on there in Vermont? Made a switch religions over good quickly.

1281
01:28:41,159 --> 01:28:43,119
Well, if you'd like to get
in with a call six zo three

1282
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:46,159
two five six z seven six zo
three two five six seven, the studio

1283
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:48,600
line is open. And um.
By the way, I don't think you've

1284
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:53,760
been on the show since you you
went on your trip. I haven't been

1285
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,039
on the show since I came back
from DC. I don't think you have.

1286
01:28:56,399 --> 01:28:59,840
Really no. Wow, that's crazy. And I'm going back to DC

1287
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:02,000
at the end of this month.
Yes, I'm going to be speaking at

1288
01:29:02,079 --> 01:29:06,439
the annual Convention of People's Action.
They're expecting somewhere around I don't know.

1289
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:11,039
I think it was like eight hundred
to one thousand or so folks. So

1290
01:29:11,159 --> 01:29:14,359
I'm looking forward to that. We'll
be talking more about healthcare and a number

1291
01:29:14,399 --> 01:29:16,439
of other things, yes, but
I had the pleasure of traveling to DC,

1292
01:29:17,119 --> 01:29:21,399
and I will tell you that it
was far more than I anticipated.

1293
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,520
When I was asked to speak at
this town hall, I kind of envisioned,

1294
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,720
you know, like a corporate room
at like the Hyatt, you know

1295
01:29:30,279 --> 01:29:35,199
they rent out a room and everybody
does that. I had amazing people taking

1296
01:29:35,239 --> 01:29:38,600
care of me. Let me tell
you, I did not have to worry

1297
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:45,479
about anything. And when they came
to get me, and I don't know

1298
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:46,960
if I'm supposed to say the person's
name out loud or not, but they're

1299
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,000
an amazing individual and I had a
blast hanging around with them for a couple

1300
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,520
of days. It was just awesome. They came and got me to take

1301
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:59,359
me to go speak at the town
hall, and it's like she's pointing over

1302
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,319
to and telling me pointing to where
I need to walk because she's gonna go

1303
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,600
park the car so she's gonna put
me out closer to the building. And

1304
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:11,439
look, it's literally the capital,
like literally the Capital. And we're pulling

1305
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,159
up and I'm looking at her going
I'm speaking in there, like I really

1306
01:30:15,079 --> 01:30:18,319
it was kind of it was overwhelming
in that and I really got nauseous.

1307
01:30:18,399 --> 01:30:21,359
In that moment, I got nervous, but it went amazingly well. I

1308
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:29,000
will say shout out to our great
state. When Senator when Senator Sanders was

1309
01:30:29,119 --> 01:30:31,479
introducing me, he said gen coffee
from Manchester, New Hampshire, and you

1310
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:36,039
could hear a very distinct whoop from
Manchester, New Hampshire. We actually um

1311
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,279
had a New Hampshire right in the
audience, which was really cool. I

1312
01:30:40,359 --> 01:30:44,039
didn't expect that it went really well. There were a lot of there were

1313
01:30:44,119 --> 01:30:47,119
doctors on the there. The panel
was made up of doctors. Myself is

1314
01:30:47,159 --> 01:30:53,199
the patient, Senator Sanders and Representative
Jaia Paul and we're all basically talking about

1315
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:58,560
the same thing about healthcare and why
I think this here's the thing. I

1316
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,760
mean, all these years we hear
about people trying to fix the ACA,

1317
01:31:02,319 --> 01:31:06,159
and we got to wrangle in the
pharmaceutical and we got to wrangle in this

1318
01:31:06,319 --> 01:31:10,600
insurance company, that insurance company.
We'd been doing this for decades and it

1319
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,399
doesn't work. It doesn't make the
system any better. More people every day

1320
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:18,319
are going without care. What we're
doing, throwing good money after bad is

1321
01:31:18,399 --> 01:31:23,520
not going to fix our healthcare problem. Our healthcare problem could be fixed by

1322
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,000
using the system we already have in
place, Medicare, which people who have

1323
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:30,479
Medicare are usually happy with Medicare because
like I wish I had Medicare, I

1324
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:34,000
have an advantage. I don't get
access to the care I could have under

1325
01:31:34,079 --> 01:31:41,720
medicare. But if Medicare was the
agency that paid, and healthcare was open,

1326
01:31:42,039 --> 01:31:45,479
that everybody got the care that they
needed, that nobody's kid was going

1327
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:51,760
without their inhalers, that nobody's kid
is going out without chemo, then everybody

1328
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:56,439
would be entitled to healthcare. The
amount of it costs to run healthcare in

1329
01:31:56,520 --> 01:32:00,279
this country would dramatically decrease if we
get through rid of all of this billing

1330
01:32:00,359 --> 01:32:03,760
and coding, and if medicare.
You know, your doctor submits to Medicare

1331
01:32:04,119 --> 01:32:06,880
and they go, oops, you
missed a code, and they fix it

1332
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:11,680
between each other instead of denied,
and we got to send letters, and

1333
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,199
we got to have another appeal,
and your five appeals in and they're still

1334
01:32:15,239 --> 01:32:18,439
not approving it. Meanwhile, your
cancer is spreading you or your kid is

1335
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:24,319
suffering whatever, all because of this
bureaucracy that costs an enormous amount of money

1336
01:32:24,359 --> 01:32:29,199
and does zero zero to improve healthcare
outcomes. The goal of healthcare is to

1337
01:32:29,319 --> 01:32:33,880
improve have more positive outcomes, have
people live better quality lives, longer lives,

1338
01:32:34,199 --> 01:32:36,760
and be able to enjoy their family, enjoy their life. That's what

1339
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:41,279
we would all want, and it
shouldn't be if you got enough money to

1340
01:32:41,359 --> 01:32:44,560
buy it, because we all pay
for it. You want to talk about

1341
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,039
everybody paying for it. You brought
it up earlier with paying for the development

1342
01:32:47,119 --> 01:32:51,199
of the COVID vaccinations. Well,
where do you think all the money comes

1343
01:32:51,239 --> 01:32:56,199
from that gets granted out or goes
into this where people will say, I

1344
01:32:56,239 --> 01:32:58,800
don't want to pay for other people's
healthcare. What do you think your premiums

1345
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,520
going? Your paying for other people's
healthcare. But right now you're paying for

1346
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:09,800
other people's healthcare and you're lining pockets
of rich CEOs and stockholders. Yeah,

1347
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:14,520
that's how insurance works anyway. That's
what people don't seem to realize. As

1348
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,159
any any kind of insurance, be
it health insurance or any kind of insurance,

1349
01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:21,039
you're all paying for you know,
you value it, You're paying for

1350
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:25,479
everybody. People think I'm paying for
my private insurance, so I'm paying for

1351
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,119
me, And that's not true.
And it's like you said, very good

1352
01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:32,039
example is everybody's insurance. It's like
that, you have homeowners insurance. Some

1353
01:33:32,119 --> 01:33:34,880
of you out there right, you
have homeowners insurance. You all pay your

1354
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:40,159
premiums. Joe down the street has
a house fire and collects on that.

1355
01:33:40,399 --> 01:33:45,520
That's your money. That's that's that's
being paid out to him. They count

1356
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,680
on having a larger pool of good
to pay for the bad. So health

1357
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:54,239
insurance companies want larger pools of healthy
people to pay for the bad. Which

1358
01:33:54,319 --> 01:33:58,720
is why it's associated with our workplaces. It's attached to our workplaces, which

1359
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,800
it's not like that another kind countries. Here in America, healthcare is attached

1360
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:05,439
to your job. So as long
as you're healthy and you got that job

1361
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:10,520
and you're paying those premiums, you're
paying for the sicker people. But the

1362
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:15,840
minute that you become the sicker people, what little you have left gets drained

1363
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,079
out. And then when you eventually
lose your job altogether, you're not a

1364
01:34:19,159 --> 01:34:24,079
burden too men anymore because you weren't
worth it anymore. When you were healthy,

1365
01:34:24,119 --> 01:34:26,680
it was great having you on the
payroll. But now you're sick,

1366
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,239
Oh, we don't want you.
You're gonna cost too much money. It's

1367
01:34:29,279 --> 01:34:32,439
great that you lost your job,
because now you lose your healthcare, you're

1368
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:38,079
one cancer diagnosis away from being somebody
who has no home, no property,

1369
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:42,399
no nothing, you know, because
that's not the way insurance works, especially

1370
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,319
here. It's sick that we'd attach
it to our employment. It really is.

1371
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:51,000
Yeah. I don't I don't think, you know. I mean,

1372
01:34:51,159 --> 01:34:55,000
as far as what our guests today, Steve Laughy had to say about it,

1373
01:34:55,039 --> 01:34:58,079
I mean, you know, I
think we can all agree on what

1374
01:34:58,159 --> 01:35:01,039
he was saying about prescription drugs,
but I don't get the feeling that he's

1375
01:35:01,119 --> 01:35:06,279
really examined the issue much deeper than
that. But it's one thing to talk

1376
01:35:06,279 --> 01:35:10,720
about the patterns, but there's so
much more that goes into what these pharmaceutical

1377
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:15,560
prices are. Yeah, sorry if
I said that wrong. Oh I don't

1378
01:35:15,279 --> 01:35:19,199
sound Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, even my dad,

1379
01:35:19,239 --> 01:35:24,560
who's a conservative, you know,
he supports a single payer healthcare at this

1380
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,720
point, and these patients are getting
ration too care as is now right,

1381
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,760
and I don't want to ration healthcare
in the United States. I want everybody

1382
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,439
to have healthcare. Yeah. That's
why I'm done with trying to fix the

1383
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:39,000
system that's so broken. You can't
fix it. We had a national healthcare

1384
01:35:39,239 --> 01:35:42,800
and everybody got healthcare, lives would
be so much more improved, and the

1385
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:47,640
cost of healthcare would Imagine picking your
healthcare provider based on the quality of their

1386
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:54,800
care instead of the cheaper price.
You know that that that elevates our health

1387
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,279
career in this nation. I'll say
when I went to the town hall,

1388
01:35:58,399 --> 01:36:02,319
I was impressed by the fullness.
The room was full, and I have

1389
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:08,119
hope because people like your dad and
me and other people out there have changed

1390
01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:12,039
their opinions on how to deal with
American healthcare and what we need to do

1391
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:18,199
if we're going to have a healthier
nation. I think he was on an

1392
01:36:18,279 --> 01:36:23,039
interesting one thing he said that was
interesting, but we didn't get a chance

1393
01:36:23,039 --> 01:36:27,560
to really explore it further. Was
you know, he was talking about encouraging

1394
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:32,840
more positive outcomes, and I kind
of felt like he was sort of tilting

1395
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,720
toward a little bit something that I've
I've I've read about over the years.

1396
01:36:38,039 --> 01:36:41,800
A critique, one of the many
critiques of the American healthcare system is that

1397
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:49,840
there's not enough emphasis put on preventative
or preventative care in terms of really encouraging

1398
01:36:50,279 --> 01:36:56,439
people to be healthier and make better
choices. But I also understand too that

1399
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:00,199
it's it's part of it's a it's
an unfortunate part of human nature. Where

1400
01:37:01,119 --> 01:37:08,039
I've always said, you know,
the absolute single easiest thing in the world

1401
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:13,399
to take for granted is your health
and right up until something goes wrong,

1402
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,359
and um, and even and for
some people even after even after something does

1403
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:23,720
go wrong, UM for example.
So I'm not I'm not sure if the

1404
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,560
healthcare system can solve this, because
it might be just a matter of human

1405
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,119
nature. But for example, I
can think of two people right off the

1406
01:37:30,199 --> 01:37:32,640
top of my head, both of
whom people you know, I'm not going

1407
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:36,880
to say who they are, obviously
UM, and both of them people some

1408
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:42,279
of the listeners would know. UM. Definitely. I can think of two

1409
01:37:42,359 --> 01:37:45,840
people I know who have had heart
attacks who continue to smoke cigarettes, one

1410
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:51,600
of them who has had multiple heart
attacks and continues to smoke cigarettes. And

1411
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:57,000
it's UM. So it's very difficult
to get to get people to UM.

1412
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,720
You know, we have and you
know you can see, you know,

1413
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:05,680
we have rising levels of obesity and
diabetes in this country. Yeah, for

1414
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:10,439
all in this nation's cigarette smoking has
gone down dramatical or whatever where it used

1415
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:13,119
to be, it has. But
that being said, what concerns me is

1416
01:38:13,159 --> 01:38:16,239
that if we're going to get into
that, what is the what is the

1417
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:20,640
what is the consequence? I mean, if you're not being healthy about your

1418
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:24,479
lifestyle, what's the consequence? Do
we cut you off from healthcare? Well?

1419
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,720
No, of course not. And
that's that's that's what makes you get

1420
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,479
into That's why it's that's a difficult
problem to solve because I think some of

1421
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,279
that is just there's just an element
of human nature. I'll tell you why

1422
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:39,000
people take health for granted and then
they and then they're stubborn about making changes.

1423
01:38:39,319 --> 01:38:42,600
If we get rid of the insurance
companies and allow doctors to see the

1424
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,760
patients as they should instead of being
lifted limited to fifteen minutes, maybe they

1425
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:49,359
have twenty thirty minutes with the patient
that they actually now have the time to

1426
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:54,359
address and talk to them about lifestyle
changes they can make to live a healthier

1427
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:57,840
life or things that they could do. Doctors are limited to fifteen minutes in

1428
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,880
the room with you if they're lucky, and all the hours of charting that

1429
01:39:01,039 --> 01:39:04,199
they don't even get to go there
with their patients. They're basically rushing.

1430
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,439
Let me listen you heart, Let
Melsten to you along. Let me check

1431
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:11,000
your labs. You know, they
don't get the time to spend to do

1432
01:39:11,159 --> 01:39:14,920
the quality care with the patient that
they could do if we got rid of

1433
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,880
insurance companies. Yeah, I don't. I just think if we got rid

1434
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:25,840
of insurance companies it would be a
huge benefit to everybody. No, I

1435
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:30,479
think so too, except for the
people that are maligning their pockets. Yeah,

1436
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,640
six three two five six seven is
the number? Two call six zo

1437
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,279
three two five six seven. We
have a little bit of time left on

1438
01:39:36,359 --> 01:39:43,159
today's show. We should take a
moment to talk about It's very frustrating subject.

1439
01:39:43,279 --> 01:39:46,880
But we're not out of the woods
yet on the debt limit because now

1440
01:39:47,039 --> 01:39:50,760
so over the weekend, it was
a big step, a positive step.

1441
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:55,680
Of course, a deal was reached. By the way. We didn't get

1442
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,760
a chance to get into that with
Steve, but I almost got the impression

1443
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:05,439
he was like pro default, so
it sounded like that's where he was going.

1444
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,279
I think my head would have exploded
if we'd gone there. On top

1445
01:40:09,319 --> 01:40:12,840
of everything. Yeah, yeah,
I'm almost glad we didn't because even even

1446
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,960
though I disagree, even though I
probably disagree with him on most things.

1447
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:20,479
I do enjoy having him on.
But um, but I credit him for

1448
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:25,600
being able to have the conversations and
talk about parts. I like being able

1449
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,279
to talk from different perspectives. Yeah. Yeah, he didn't shy away from

1450
01:40:29,319 --> 01:40:31,600
it. No, he's very open
to dialogue. Um. He was actually

1451
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,199
suggesting, but I don't think he'll
this was off here, but I don't

1452
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:36,800
think he'll mind if I repeated on
here. On his way out, he

1453
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,319
was suggesting, Uh, you know, he wants to come on again.

1454
01:40:40,359 --> 01:40:44,239
He likes being on the show.
Um, he was suggesting that we have

1455
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,960
Uh my dad wants me to get
to uh and we probably could get him

1456
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:51,560
revec I'm sorry, not revec vec
Rami Swami. I think I'm saying his

1457
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:58,359
last name correctly. And uh,
Steve wants to debate, debate uh vec

1458
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:02,239
Ramiswamy on the show over a particular
topic or just in general. I'm not

1459
01:41:02,399 --> 01:41:05,720
sure we'd have to. We'd have
to see, but it would be interesting,

1460
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:10,439
it might be, it might be
feasible. Um. But uh yeah.

1461
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:14,319
So over the over the weekend,
we we did clear one hurdle with

1462
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:19,319
the debt limit where a deal was
reached. But now we have this problem

1463
01:41:20,079 --> 01:41:29,800
of well of and predictable. Although
we'll see. I'm I'm cautiously optimistic this

1464
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,560
is going to work out. But
the problem we have now is, UM,

1465
01:41:33,119 --> 01:41:39,279
you've got House Republicans who don't like
the deal, and you've got a

1466
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:44,800
Senate Democrats who don't like the deal. And UM, I guess my message

1467
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:48,680
would be to both the uh you
know, the the House Freedom Caucus Republicans

1468
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:56,520
uh in Congress and the progressive wing
of the Democratic Party in the Senate.

1469
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:03,239
Uh, y'all need to uh suck
it up and vote for this. Perfect

1470
01:42:03,359 --> 01:42:09,039
is the enemy of good. Yeah. Uh, I understand both sides have

1471
01:42:09,199 --> 01:42:13,920
things in there they don't like.
Of course you do, UM too bad.

1472
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,800
Uh. The alternative is to push
the self destruct button on the global

1473
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:25,680
economy. I'd rather not, I
understand. Uh. You know, if

1474
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,760
you're a progressive Democrat in the Senate, maybe you don't like some of the

1475
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:34,479
work requirements. Uh. If your
House Freedom Caucus member and the House,

1476
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:41,640
uh, you're frustrated that you didn't
get the original bill that you passed,

1477
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:45,159
which, as I referred to it
last week, would be austerity on steroids.

1478
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:50,199
Uh, I get it. You
know it's not it's not all that

1479
01:42:50,319 --> 01:42:57,399
you wanted. But again, the
alternative is because we're out of time.

1480
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,680
Okay, I don't know, you
know, if if you're going to try

1481
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,119
to hold this up, and and
I understand there there are House Freedom Caucus

1482
01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:09,199
members who would be perfectly fine with
pushing that self destruct button, who are

1483
01:43:09,239 --> 01:43:14,720
actually pro default and uh, and
I think there I don't think there's progressive

1484
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:16,880
Democrats in the Senate who want to
do who would be fine with that,

1485
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:21,880
but they are going to be contributing
to that happening if they don't get on

1486
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,960
board and vote for this. So
uh, you know, uh, Jennet

1487
01:43:27,039 --> 01:43:31,279
Yellen says June fifth, and that
could move again, and you know,

1488
01:43:31,399 --> 01:43:34,199
and some people might say, well, you know, it moved before,

1489
01:43:34,279 --> 01:43:36,880
it could move again. It could
move again, as you know, as

1490
01:43:38,039 --> 01:43:41,439
more numbers coming. No, no, no, Well the thing is,

1491
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:45,399
that's well the problem, here's the
problem. Yeah, it could move again

1492
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,840
and we have more time. It
could also move again and we have less

1493
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:54,000
time because very often when these projections
are made, it turns you know,

1494
01:43:54,239 --> 01:43:58,720
it turns out, oh guess what, uh, tax revenue coming in lower

1495
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,279
than we thought. Looks like we
actually have less time. So that could

1496
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:06,479
happen too. So we're out of
time, guys. So whether you're whether

1497
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:11,399
you've got Senator Mike Lee and the
Senate who's saying, and he's a Republican,

1498
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:15,439
he's gonna intentionally he's talking about intentionally
slowing it down. Of course Vos

1499
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,159
won't happen. Of course it should. I know, like he's gonna try

1500
01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:23,600
and put it. Yeah, good, Yeah we don't. We don't have

1501
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,239
time for this guy. Time to
your games. Yeah, it's not a

1502
01:44:27,319 --> 01:44:30,199
game you're likely going to change,
but a whole lot of the people's will.

1503
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,239
Yeah, so y'all need to just
vote for it. Walking around in

1504
01:44:33,279 --> 01:44:38,319
the suit worth as much as somebody
else's rent. Sorry, it's true,

1505
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:43,439
it's true. So uh so that's
the that's where we are with that.

1506
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:51,479
So uh we could yet kareem into
economic oblivion. I'm cautiously optimistic, but

1507
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:56,199
I'll tell you what, there's already, and sure enough there's you know,

1508
01:44:56,279 --> 01:45:00,920
it's it's rare actually that I have
a moment of sympathy for House Speaker Kevin

1509
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,600
McCarthy, because I really don't have
much respect for the guy at all.

1510
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:11,760
But there are already House Freedom Caucus
members calling for his Ouster, and in

1511
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:15,720
this particular circumstance, I think that's
a shame. Well, you know,

1512
01:45:16,119 --> 01:45:19,319
he wouldn't be in a horrible situation
if he hadn't given away everything. He

1513
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:24,079
gave up so much that there are
three people that are on the Rules Committee

1514
01:45:24,239 --> 01:45:26,720
that are going to vote against him, and they were put on the Rules

1515
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,600
committee in order to win their votes
for the speakership. It looks like Tom

1516
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:34,199
Massey is going to yeah, is
going to go ahead and vote to get

1517
01:45:34,279 --> 01:45:39,319
this to the House floor. So
I think they'll have to get it out

1518
01:45:39,319 --> 01:45:44,079
of the committee and that's supposed to
happen tonight. I'm cautiously optimistic but now,

1519
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,319
but we're not out of the woods
yet with this. But yeah,

1520
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:51,880
these um, all the people who
are complaining that's that that ship is sailed?

1521
01:45:53,239 --> 01:45:56,479
What do I mean, what do
they want? Do they think that

1522
01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:00,199
there's time to go back and renegotiate
this? Come on, there isn't.

1523
01:46:01,399 --> 01:46:04,800
But there's a lot of people that
aren't going to have money, like military

1524
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:10,399
people and yeah, elnerly people are
just gonna have no money for rent or

1525
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:15,800
food or medications. These these these
jerks walking around up there, they're not

1526
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,000
gonna know nothing they got Cadillac Health
Insurance. They're certainly not hurting for meals.

1527
01:46:19,039 --> 01:46:21,560
They get a heck of a cafeteria
in this capital. Let me tell

1528
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:25,399
you, let me say they even
have a subway down there. They got

1529
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:29,640
everything they need. Come right to
their beck and call. They ain't hurting

1530
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,960
for nothing. They don't know anything
about the pain that they're talking about in

1531
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:40,000
inducing to the average American that's gonna
end up hurting because of this. All

1532
01:46:40,079 --> 01:46:42,960
right, well, we gotta we
gotta wrap up. Jenny, Thank you,

1533
01:46:44,039 --> 01:46:46,119
Hi, thank you. Sorry if
I got a little excited, No,

1534
01:46:46,319 --> 01:46:49,880
no, it's all good. It's
a good passionate discussion, good discussion.

1535
01:46:50,159 --> 01:46:54,520
Thank you again, Steve Laughy for
joining us today and his wife Kelly,

1536
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,800
who is here as well. And
um tomorrow on the show, we've

1537
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:01,600
got stand up audio. Ah.
Yes, they're gonna be coming in talking

1538
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:06,560
Joe Perow. They have a show
coming up at the Rex on June third.

1539
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,840
This weekend they're going to be talking
about. And then on Thursday,

1540
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:15,760
you've got Kevin Hammerck going to be
skyping in. Yeah, and then Friday

1541
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,159
is going to be your big day. So you get a good week of

1542
01:47:18,319 --> 01:47:21,880
show, a little short week.
Well, what's Friday? You said,

1543
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:25,119
Friday is going to be a big
day. Fridays you're a big day.

1544
01:47:25,159 --> 01:47:27,399
Oh oh you mean that's my long
day here at the station. Yes,

1545
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,920
yes, here, long day right
right, Friday. Of course I do

1546
01:47:30,039 --> 01:47:33,079
this show and I get to hang
out with Polyc and Mike from Queen City

1547
01:47:33,119 --> 01:47:36,840
Cabinetry and of course DJ Sevon Retrospectrum
Radio with poly C. So yeah,

1548
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,760
Fridays are a lot of fun here. You're pretty chuck full of guests for

1549
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:44,039
the month of June there, yes, yes, well done, well done,

1550
01:47:44,199 --> 01:47:45,640
thank you. All right, we
do have to go. I'm gonna

1551
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:49,319
play a little stand up audio to
play us out, and if you miss

1552
01:47:49,319 --> 01:47:51,560
any part of today's show it we'll
be up in just a little bit at

1553
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:57,640
WMH radio dot org and on my
website Matt Connerton dot com. And that

1554
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,680
is it for us for now.
We gotta go. Palka y'all a little

1555
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:01,079
bit later. Bye everybody, Bye
bye.