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Hi. My name is Tom Welling. I played Clark Kent on Smallville and

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you are listening to Always hold on
to Smallville. Welcome to Always hold on

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to Smallville. In this podcast,
we talk about each and every episode of

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the Young Superman Show. They're from
two thousand and one to twenty eleven on

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the WB and the CW. I'm
your host Sack More and I'm joined by

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b and Light's Last and Nick Ryan. Kept your guessing there, same Nick

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Ryan. We were back a week
later. We have reassembled. It's been

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a good week. Yeah, I
mean the weather's still nice, so we're

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still outside and we were back to
talking. No, really, I really,

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we have so many it's so great. We have so many messages,

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yes, that you have to break
into two parts. Right, It's like

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it's like the Hobbit, there's so
much material you gotta break into three part

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parts. But yes, we're back
to talking about Milbag number twelve, Part

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two, Part two, so let's
just you know, we'll jump right into

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it. But again, if you
have questions you want to ask us,

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email us these reviews on Apple podcasts
and other podcast platforms, comments and whatnot.

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Send us messages like we're killing all
the we go through them, we

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read them all. They're all very
appreciated, and we're here to rebost them

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for you. So let's jump back
into the mailbag, starting with an email

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from Randon Lyttle again uh, the
creator of the always onto Smallville tally board.

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Yes for always on too Smallville categories
since an email season rankings, So

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this is the fun one, Okay, Hi, Zach, I know you're

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always talking about which is your favorite
versus your least favorite seasons of the show.

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I personally love the first four seasons
and the ninth season, but you

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seem to have a hard time to
siding. I decided to do you with

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solid it went through the episodes of
the podcast so far analyze your episode letter

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scores to come up with hard numbers
that you can definitively say what your favorite

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season is, at least up through
season eight. I signed each letter a

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number. Anything in the A range
is A four, B as A three,

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C as A two, and D
as a one. I told up

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the numbers for each episode of each
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the number of episodes in the season. First of all, let me just

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say, Brandon, thank you for
all that hardwork. That sounds like a

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lot of work. Can I really
appreciate you doing it? So math doesn't

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lie. So here is your official
ranking of the seasons based off the scores

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you have given on the podcast,
from last to first and again. This

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is seasons one through eight. Number
eight, Season six average two point seven

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to two. Number seven, season
seven average two point seven to five.

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Number six, Season four average two
point seven to seven. Well, I

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track with all that. This is
like if you ask me on the top

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of my head, I'd say,
you know what those are? The bottom

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three Seasons six is probably the bottom, and then seven and then four,

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Like I could tell you that off
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when it starts to get interesting,
right, I think I still track with

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this. Number five, season eight
average two point eighty six. Okay,

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on board there. Now gets a
little complicated because I've been telling a lot

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of people Season three the most.
Number four Season three average three point zero.

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Episodes like Whisper and Magnetic in there
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the top of my head, those
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Well, I know you don't know, Nick Plants what else from season

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three? What when you think of
season three, like, oh, that's

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a bad one. Those two came
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those are the ones that I would
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Well everybody does except for me.
Apparently we give really surprisingly high school.

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Oh Resurrection isn't that good? Oh? Yeah? I also wonder if

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because of those episodes, you haven't
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haven't really settled on how low low
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they might be a little bit lower
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more generous as time went on.
Yeah, despite how native I might sound

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on some episodes, I do feel
I think fun enoughs the whole time,

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like a minus. Yeah, So
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So maybe that explained season three.
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season number three, Season five average
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that because when the show ended,
if you as him, what's your favorite

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season of? Like season five,
I guess because you got Aqua, Cyborc,

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Mortal Hiden. I mean some fantastic
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more now than I did Vengeance.
I mean there's some great vessel, right,

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I mean there's some great stuff in
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Number two, Season two three point
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Season one average three point two three
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point. I mean season one again, you're starting the podcast out, you

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know, I'm very excited about I
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it represented it and I think that's
the show when it's purest for really young

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Clark can't growing up in small Mill. So that's always gonna hold a special

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place in my heart as the first
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of when I think of bad episodes, I think about like craving Drone,

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Reaper our season two, anything like
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like I can think off the top
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off more bad episodes of seasons one
and two than a can of three.

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So I'm just you go look at
my scores and season three again, I

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reassessed this our interesting scores. But
the thing that jumps out to me,

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though it's looking good for Arrow,
we're not gonna talk about small al Viero

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Dona Justice Ultimate Edition, that's true. Gotta wait for the ultimate edition.

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So you were certainly correct in saying
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Love the show. Thanks for all
the hard work you dude, put out

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fresh episodes. They're so fun to
listen to. Brandon LTA, well,

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thanks again, Brandon. You're hella
stats guys on here, Corey Moore,

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DJ Towina, both of them have
done fantastic work for us, and Brandy

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to right up there with him.
Those guys now because they just some great

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statistics, like I love this.
I'm like Brad Pitt and you're like Jonah

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Hill. No fense, No,
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that he's supposed to be playing.
You know, Paul deep Atesta, the

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real life person. That's cool,
but real life Jonah Hill, huh,

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you know, not the place I
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didn't say I was the A's manager. Art out next emails from Corey Moore

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uh titled Roulette How dos act just
like Chloe? I too put my friends

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through the gauntlet of tests when they
loose their way, like this one time,

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my friend we will call him Jack. He started to root for the

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Texas Rangers. So I sent this
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a sleepy pill. Jack had to
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to see another coffin with the nameplate
of his good friend Vance on it.

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But I'm I'm not that evil.
The coffin was empty. I decided to

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send a vicious dog after Jack when
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fan. Still no progress. That's
when I thought a good car crash would

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do him some good. This obviously
wasn't working because Jack started to talk about

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how he disowned the Houston Rockets for
the San Antonio Spurs. It was time

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to bring out the big guns and
drain his bank account. But not part

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of my plan. Rick Brian McDougall
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a chair in the same red dress. Gunshots ring out only to be blanks,

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and I thought this has gone far
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heat and turn the mirrors around to
Jack. He obviously seen the er of

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his ways, and we'll go back
to ruining for the Astros, Texans and

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Rockets. That was a close one. Ahaa, Roulette gets a heater from

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me. My favorite scene is at
the end when Oliver tells Clerk he looks

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ridiculous in that long coat. Up, up and away more stories our Jack

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and Vance, will speA, Zach
and Lance and Rick Brian mcgogle. That's

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that's an amazing I'm gonna call you
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life now, Nick, that's fantastic. Actually, the McDougall's actually a name

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that I've heard, but from thanks, I don't know. I don't know

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if I follow all that, Corey, but appreciate your as usual, all

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right, And we have a follow
up email from Corey saying apologies Roulette.

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Hey, I just wanted to send
a quick apology to Nick. Oh look

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at that. I didn't even uh. In my roulente email, I wrote

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that I set a girl referring to
Nick to give you a sleeping peal if

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offended him or the group. I'm
sorry. I was just feeling silly and

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have nothing but respect for you and
your fence. Well, thank you,

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Corey. I did not take any
offense. It was a story. I

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didn't even know that was you.
I didn't know until the end of I

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thought I thought Rick McDougall gave the
jacket sleeping Yeah, exactly. No,

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it was all fun and games,
and really I appreciate you always reach it

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out again. We don't plan on
who reads what. Yeah. Sometimes it's

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just great synchronicity here, all right. Next up is a Facebook message from

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Katie Parker. We kind of went
back and forth a little bit because she

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sent me a special gift of a
very special note. But here's our Facebook

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correspond It's Hi, Zach, I
really love the podcast and wanted to ask

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you you have a po box.
I have something I wanted to send you

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but didn't know if that was a
possibility. Hope you're doing well, keep

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it up the great work. We
answer, and she says, awesome things

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for responding. I think it's something
you will like, or at least I

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hope. My fiance was cleaning out
some of his parents' old things and found

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something I think you will like that
is comic related. And I'm thinking myself,

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what is this going to be?
And it's a DC cover Girls.

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It's DC cover Girl's Edition. It's
some cover artwork of all the women of

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DC Comics. Wonder Woman's on the
cover, Big Alex Rosin and he a

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woman, and it's fantastic. It's
like a big table a coffee table book

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if you will soft back a coffee
table book and send me a great note.

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I'm gonna read it here, yeap
Hi Zach. I just wanted to

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write and say thank you for all
you do. I really love listening to

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It's given me a lot of joy. And I used to watch Smallville as

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a kid in high school and was
obsessed with it. I was late to

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the game. I don't entirely remember
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it was a rerun of an earlier
episode, like season five or six,

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and I immediately begged my parents to
buy all the seasons available on DVD.

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I think I watched all of smallvill
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my friends and I were absolutely in
love with Mavela. We even made t

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shirts and go over to each other's
houses and watch every Thursday night and then

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Friday when they moved it. Both
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of our shirtless Oliver plus one.
Am I right? I maybe have remained

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in college now. My best friend
watch all of Smavele with me my freshman's

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sophomore at college, Cakeemunage that Lance
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all of it with my fiancee David. I kind of forced him to watch

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it with me at first, but
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We were recently cleaning some things up
from David's late parents and found this book.

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He wanted to give it to someone
who would appreciate it rather than just

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doniate it, and you came to
mind, ten seasons is a lot to

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cover for a podcast. The fact
that you're still plugging away at it gives

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me so much joy. You're so
close to being finished. Thank you again

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for all your efforts and keep being
awesome. Happy Holidays, Katie Parker.

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Thank you, Katie. And then
condoles is David for your your parents,

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thank you for finding a good home
for their belongings. And I'm glad I

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was one of those good homes.
And I church and appreciate this presence.

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So I'm looking looking forward to going
through it. I haven't flipped through it

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all yet, but I didn't even
that book existed, so which is rare.

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I obviously like, is this gonna
be like the Superman DVDs? I

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get over No, but that's fantastic. I am proud to say I did

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not have that already. It's something
I was unaware of and it's it's a

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beautiful book. And thank you for
all the very kind words about the podcast

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and for the gift. So thank
you Katie and David both. All right,

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next, we have a Spotify message
from me Itting Candor personally enjoyed.

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Sorry like a week behind, just
got on this episode, and I really

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loving the season so far. I
enjoyed knowing more about Darrell and his hardship

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with Zod. I love Zod this
season. You remember that episode, Lance,

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Candor, Yeah, I think I
liked it better than I remembered it.

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We were we've been so hard on
Julian Sands Jarrel. Yes, and

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it's not that the fact that the
actor is fast as we have so oft

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and it's legitimately, like, oh
man, he was. He was pretty

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good the actor, Like, we
got a legit guy so much better than

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they just put Tom Welligan like old
age may probably save money to Actually they

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only share that one scene until he
could have done it. It looks just

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like your father anyway. Thanks for
that comment. Yeah, I do also

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enjoy z OD this season. Nick, you don't know this, but General

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Zacho's up in the flash in season
nine. He's a younger clone from this

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from the bottled City of Candor at
least smaveles. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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H. I actually did a bottle
should watching what you get. That's

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actually it's a small version of it, but it's an orb that has a

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bunch of Candorians in it. Anyway, thanks for that message, and yeah,

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I would. And we'll see where
he stands when the season is over,

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because I'm in in the in the
episode coverages of this recruiting in the

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middle of season nine. But I
rank that third after Likes and Lionel as

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the best villains of the show.
All right, Now we have a Facebook

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Messenger message from Tommy Coleman Jr.
Hello, Zach, I want to thank

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you for your podcast. I only
recently started it. I gave Talkvilla chance

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and loved many aspects of it,
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off it as a casual listener for
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the podcast and how you had one
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there is. So I've started that
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or two and finishing up season three. In the early seasons, you joke

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about you joke around about not finishing
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hoping you don't actually spend a decade
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become in fact the case. I
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love the podcast, your point of
views, the tally counts, the guests,

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lance is hands down my favorite.
Cost with you sometimes yeah sorry yeah,

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shared inside and theories as I do, as well as teaching me so

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much knowledge and introducing new fun theories
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episode one. I was ten when
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seasons. Then I hung around for
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the series live on TV, but
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times in the decade since it ended. It's a huge comfort show of mine.

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Much like you, I mirrored my
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show. That is just another reason
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the podcast. I'm sorry for long
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knowing that. As you are nearing
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after starting that there are still new
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Again, thank you for your hard
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Smallville. No, thanks to that
that message. I again, I'm very

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happy that top Pille has generated more
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You're one of them, so so
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let's see twenty twenty five. I
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but it's true. Here we are. Yeah, I really spied baby,

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seven when I was gonna whin it, was I gonna quite Oh? No,

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it's been amazing. Well, you
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yea, as you're well aware.
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but yet a whole week in the
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I uh, I did notice,
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both of you guys, you both
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one was I was getting started,
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reappeared or came up out of nowhere
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around. That's correct. Yeah.
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could you like if we had a
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of this podcast? Yeah, and
like like ourselves right now, I would

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talk to like, you know,
to ourselves back there. It's like,

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you're gonna you're gonna be on a
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gonna have Jeff John's on your podcast. What would what would you What would

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your reaction have been? I'm like, well, how long am I gonna

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you know, I try to keep
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Tom Wallie told me I seem very
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and I gotta say, like,
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John's and Sam Whipper, like because
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things, So I feel like I
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a good guy. So they're like, okay, you know it's a little

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lesson to like excreus. Can I
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like, I don't want to do
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would be so easy. Yeah,
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hey, do you think you can
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the conventions? But now no,
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tell Nick your story about you trying
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No, we're good. Well,
first of all, Rick Gonzalez,

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Who's wild? Do you watch Arrow? Yeah? How much Arrow? Have

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you watched? That's a good question, more than I think? I yeah,

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probably more seasons than how much?
How much always the one the Arrow?

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dropped when uh legends to Tomorrow?
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the hockey mask? Yes, okay, okay, so I thought he was

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from the TMT universe and Michaels what
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convention recently and got a bump in
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it's super cool. It's great,
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ours. We're locked in, as
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Always hold on to Arrow podcasts.
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over Lance. Try to get a
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it. If it's too raw,
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rough patch on the show right now, so so it just makes it funnier

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that, like, I got ghosted
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listen Always onto Arrow, you can
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and the listeners. So go check
out Always on the Arrow, Always Onto

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Family podcast. It's true, did
you ever become Greenland? We don't have

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time for that. That's talk about
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ring, but that's never that's the
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get there. That's a legitimate question
for this guy. I know, all

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right, but trust we will get
there, y'all. Well, thanks again

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Tommy for your email. Speaking of
Arrow should be oh not playing guys,

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that's awesome, all right. I
got a Facebook message from Alex Howe been

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listening to your podcast and you missed
a movie plot on the episode Spirit.

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It's the Stir of Echoes pretty much
with Kevin Bacon. Is it? Mm

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hmmm? Like Sixth Sense that was
like came around the same time. I

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don't. I don't know. Is
there promised starve eCos? I don't even

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remember, so I don't know,
Alex. I'll do some research on that.

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If you're right, I'll update the
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there's Sturbacos, there's Sixth Sense.
I think I'm getting them all confused.

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I'm not getting hollow Man. Yeah, hello man. Oh that was a

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creepy movie. I remember watching it
as a kid. I'll have to I'll

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go watch a troiler for Terra Becos
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If that's uh, if that's a
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carry right, I don't not really
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But anyway, thanks to that message, Alex, I will look into it.

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Oh, can do it? All
right? I got another Facebook message

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from Brandon little uh is it little
Life? At some point yeah, he'll

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say his name a lot. We
might have been saying it wrong. Sorry,

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sorry, sorry, man, We're
covering both bases, yes, says

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hey Zach. I just listened to
your review of Pandora. Every time that

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that word comes up, we have
to say it that way. It's we're

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contracted. Yeah, that's why I
was kind of confused because I don't remember

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that part. They get the guy
that directed The True Lives, he directed

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those Avatar movies. What oh wait, big d. I thought he wasn't,

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but I guess I thought you were
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doing it. No, that's legitimately
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movie. Excellent movie, and I
have that game on the Super Nintendo as

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well. Anyway, just listen to
your review of Pandora, and I have

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to say that, while you point
out a lot of plot holes, the

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most unbelievable thing in the entire episode
is the timeline on the construction of Zod's

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tower. Never mind the crazy idea
that they can change the color of the

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sun. I work in construction,
and there is no way that that thing

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is getting built A no joke.
Permitting alone in a large urban setting like

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Metropolis would take over a year,
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and then actually constructing the thing.
Maybe it would have made more sense for

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Lowis to be transported a thousand years
into the future when the thing would have

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actually been complete. That's good,
Brandon, I mean that's when the ring

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was supposed to take her. Yeah, that episode is just a fail,

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Like I have not ripped in if
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remember not liking it at the time. I was like maybe I like it

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again. No, no, no, it's just so poorly thought out.

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It's like, hey, guys,
I know we're let's go back into the

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finale. I'm like, no one's
to go back there. Nobody liked Doomsday,

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you know. And you'll get there, Nick, I'll get there,

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y'all. There it is. Every
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Fortunately, I am. That's good
though, Brandon. Thanks. I

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like I said, I I'm really
glad they didn't make that the point of

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the finale again, like oh,
it's all gonna do happen again, but

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in a different way, like you
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what, we're not doing that.
Yeah, that never makes it. The

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Red Sun Lance, right, that
bothered you right, Yeah, it was

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dumb. It's like, wait,
why do they get powers on the Red

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Sun? Doesn't make sense? Don't
make no sense? Hey, thank you

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Brendon. All right, we have
an email from Aaron Fredgan. It's titled

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small bll. Hey, there's Zach
Lance, Nick and the entire always hold

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on to Smallville crew. I've listened
to every episode you've put out and I'm

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a huge fan. Absolutely love the
work you guys do and how at the

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end of the day it's usually a
conversation between friends about something they love and

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occasionally hated a little bit. Helloel, this is random, but I think

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my favorite episode you ever put out
was right after that infamous first trailer for

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Titans came out, and every few
minutes one of you would just go Batman.

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You guys had me laughing so hard
with that one. I also thought

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it was so cool that Zach made
it into the Talkville podcast, The Ultimate

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Smallvel Rewatch Podcast, Second Ultimate Rewatch
Podcast. Well, are you self tied

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up old Ultimate or is it actually
there's Well did they self titled them?

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See, that's what I mean.
So they're probably the Ultimate because they self

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tited. But we we know what
we know, we know what the real

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deal is. Yes, I call
that because they call it. Okay,

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that's fine, real ones. No. I had somewhat a unique journey into

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small watching Smallville. As someone who
grew up in the nineties, I was

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an avid fan of The Batman,
Superman, Batman Beyond, and Justin League

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animated shows, which remain for me
the different definite versions of most of these

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characters. Oh oh, definitive versions
of most of these characters. When Smallville

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started, I was curious, but
for whatever reason, I just really never

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got into it. Eventually, Arrow
and the Flash came around, which I

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really enjoyed until I did it.
I'd like to see, you know,

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we all have everybody same story.
I'd see the inevitable comparisons to Smallville for

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various character but without contexts, a
lot of those older designs didn't look great

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to me. That, combined with
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finale, led me to still not
check it checking it out, even as

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someone who loves comic books and comic
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There's a worldwide pandemic and suddenly I
found myself with some extra time on

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my hands. I thought, what
the hell, I'm gonna finally check out

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Smallville, and I loved it.
Yes, some of the Kryptonite uses border

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on ridiculous, looking at you tattoos
and car fuel plus one. Yes,

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the Clark and Lana saga wore itself
out several seasons before the show allowed it

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to finally end. And yes,
some of the effects and designs are a

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little dated by today's standards, but
there's still so much to love about the

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show. The Rosetta episode was the
first one that really knocked my socks off

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and showed me how special the show
could be. The funny thing is,

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because I had heard so many people
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not ever really in costume, I
was really, actually, really pleasantly surprised

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by it. I thought it was
an awesome culmination of ten seasons of development,

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and because going in I didn't think
he donned his costume at all,

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the little bit we did get felt
like a bonus. Of course, it

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was fantastic to have Rosenbaum back on
as well, even with the weird memory

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wipe at the end. Even though
I used to love the arrow and Flash,

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I think Smallville was consistently stronger over
ten seasons that either of those two

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shows were by their respective fourth seasons. Though interesting, once I finished the

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show, I was eager to find
some sort of conversation about the show other

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than me rambling about it to my
wife who only saw the odd episode here

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or there, lol. And I
was thrilled to stumble upon your podcasts.

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Anyway. I just wanted to share
my experience with you because I always find

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it interesting hearing how other people got
into Smallville whenever you ask them or when

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they write in for the mail bag
episodes. I was lucky enough to experience

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the birth of my first child in
the past your lie, congrats, congratulations

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and what didn't you know it?
We named him Clark. That's awesome.

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Keep up the amazing work. It
is deeply appreciated by all of us nerds

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out there. Aaron f Well,
thanks Aaron. That's a great email.

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And yeah, that's why I asked
that question for guestsmen on the show,

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and enjoy these emails and stories by
the guy in the show, because there

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are many ways to Smallville. You
know. It's interesting to hear your thoughts

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about the finale, like it was
like a BTUs not when you were watching

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this for ten years. Yes,
you know when you're when you're visiting the

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show in a short amount of time
and different. Yeah, if you're waiting

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for something week after week and year
after year and you're building towards something like

406
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.000
if you're there like you know from
the from day one, night one like

407
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:42.599
me h, when you get to
the finale, it's different. You don't

408
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:48.359
feel cheated. Yeah, so yeah, but that shows the different perspectives when

409
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:51.319
people come to the different times and
Aaron the flash? Yeah, Nick,

410
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.000
was the season three for you?
With the flash? I think it's everybody

411
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.480
except for me because I went through
it all up. I sold you through

412
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.759
it. How's Batwoman? I haven't
gotten there yet? Yeah, so I

413
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:07.000
thought I haven't gotten there. We'll
get there, y'all. How's that for

414
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:12.359
you? What's about the next started? Though? Excellent? Oh was?

415
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.400
It? Couldn't recommend it any harder
if I tried, you know what?

416
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:23.680
John, John, boy boy?
I'm sad all right? Next to have

417
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:30.000
an email from Stephen Phillips Season nine
already Zach and Friends. Hey, hey

418
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.960
all, just wanted to say that
I'm really enjoying the season nine recap.

419
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.640
I've watched seasons one through seven several
times, but eight to ten only once,

420
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.319
so it has been a nice refresh. As I watched along with y'all,

421
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.640
I forgot how great Zod is.
With the series coming to a close,

422
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:51.279
I'm so stoked to have Lionel to
return. Spoiler, that's your own

423
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:55.319
fault. Yeah, I remember really
loving when he came back and peaked for

424
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.279
him. This segment is called small
Talking with Zach Moore and this is you

425
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:03.720
know, just kind of like rapid
flare quich, this is this is a

426
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.799
rosenbomb is why don't you ask me
like rosamam would ask? Okay, okay,

427
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:14.039
so Zach, any prospects for another
guest like Sam w like maybe like

428
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:18.119
what be for for example, probably
Jeff John's. Oh come on, man,

429
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.519
come on, Jeff John's for sure
you've just heard and the planet is

430
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.119
room to come back? And season
ten for Booster Really, yeah, you

431
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.279
would know that if you listen to
the show. So then if I watch

432
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.720
it all, can I be on
that episode by then? No, dang,

433
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.519
there's only one other person who's going
to be on that that's I'm trying

434
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.519
to work it out. Yeah,
okay, it's not you and it's not

435
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.720
even Lances, not even me.
Plans suggested you don't know who is because

436
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:42.720
you don't listen to the show.
That's all. I was like, good

437
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:51.000
for exact in Lance anyway. Next, still looking to do Always Home the

438
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:55.039
Heroes. I feel like I have
to after mentioning it fifty times on the

439
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.680
podcast, So those DVDs are just
sitting on the shlf waiting to be open.

440
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:03.039
Okay, And finally, can you
recommend a good Star Trek rewatch podcast.

441
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.839
Rewatch podcast is tough because it's not
the same as what we did on

442
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.920
track film with Standard Orbit. We
did a more subject by subject thing.

443
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.279
But I will say mission log,
mission log I enjoy a lot uh.

444
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.599
And that's on the that is on
actually affiliate with Trek FM that they're a

445
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:25.319
separate thing from the rodden Berry Foundation
whatever they call it that. But it's

446
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:33.319
pretty thoughtful but still fun and entertaining. Looks at Star Trek and I listened

447
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.119
all the way through T O,
S and t G and then they I

448
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:38.960
just just got so busy with the
podcast and enjoying own Star Trek podcast,

449
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.640
and so I just kind of fell
off. I do want to get back

450
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.680
on it and listen because a friend
of mine, Normal Wao who Norm.

451
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.559
We were shout out to Norm.
We were on standar Robite together briefly.

452
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.119
Norm went on to Mission Log later. I actually haven't heard his episodes because

453
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.400
he came on during e Space nine, but that that's a really good that

454
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.240
that's a very thoughtful but also fun
star Trek or Watch podcasts, so that

455
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.119
would be the one I recommend Mission
Log. Okay, cool? What about

456
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:11.200
the ORB that's not rewatch podcast?
Once again? I guess I'm back on

457
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.920
this once again. Thank you and
your friends for this awesome podcast. The

458
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.319
amoutter of thought and effort truly shows. It's nice to hear passionate fans have

459
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.359
thoughtful dialogue on a show that was
special to us for many reasons, many

460
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.759
reasons. If I truly understand the
rating scale, I'll give this podcast top

461
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.680
marks of three point one four roses
that have been heated up by bombs Steve.

462
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.720
Thanks Steve. I appreciate that,
and hopefully those are some fun answers

463
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:40.200
to your question. So I don't
like seek out interviews because, like like

464
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:44.920
I just mentioned, I'm intimidated by
them, but when opportunities with in the

465
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.880
self, especially when I have friends
with a friend like Johnley Brody who can

466
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.440
help make that connection and we all
become friends. That that's a fun thing.

467
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.680
So be able to lookout for maybe
more things like that, and then

468
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.640
the podcast is over, I'll be
looking for content. So I just I'm

469
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.160
just I'm so afraid rejection. I'm
afraid to ask them when they say no

470
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:06.039
to something, so it happens,
all right. Next, we have a

471
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:12.599
Spotify message from Panther Benjamin titled Superman
Legacy Casting Part three. That's wrong.

472
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.519
Last, yeah, yeah, loving
all the content y'all made number two on

473
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.599
my podcast Spotify rap nice beating out
Talkville. Interestingly enough, that's right.

474
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.240
Our spent listening while I'm oh,
well, five star podcast. I love,

475
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:31.119
I love doing your worker outside stuff. Listening to podcasts you really kind

476
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:35.160
of makes the time go by faster. Well, thanks Panther, Benjamin,

477
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.759
Pathers, whichever your name is.
Our average length is much lotty than talk

478
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:43.519
Field, so that's probably why we're
higher than them on here. That and

479
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:50.400
we're better, right, I mean
yes. Now we have an email from

480
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.559
Alana Beuring, new fan. Hey, guys, new subscriber here. I

481
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:59.839
found your podcast after I decided to
dive into Smallville rewatch recently after visiting my

482
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:02.839
more on that later. I've been
a huge fan of Superman ever since I

483
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.440
was a kid. I'm one of
the few who always been Team Superman.

484
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:12.519
I too discovered Smallville around my high
school years when the show was airing Born

485
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.920
in eighty four while watching Buffy,
another favorite. I even have a cat

486
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:21.680
named Buffy. My preference for cal
El. My brother teases me for calling

487
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.079
him this, but this is his
real name. Has been a point of

488
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:30.119
debate between myself. Has been a
point of debate between myself and my brother.

489
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.920
He is a staunchy batman. See
what I what I did there,

490
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:40.279
But I will not be swayed.
Christopher Weeve, Dean Cain and Lois and

491
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:46.839
Clark, Tom and even Brandon and
then swoon Henry Cavell. Yes, I'm

492
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.400
a cliche. I do not care. Come at me, bro anyway.

493
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.799
I recently visited my brother in northern
Vermont, where weed is legal, and

494
00:33:54.839 --> 00:34:02.680
we were hanging out one night after
clear and we were hanging out one night

495
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.839
after eating gummies, and he put
on Smallville. He was in a much

496
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.280
further season than I had seen.
I think I only made it as far

497
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:15.480
as season five or six before giving
up, so he put on the first

498
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.440
season. It didn't take me long
to start flipping out. Remember I am

499
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.679
very very stone at this point.
Did I somehow in quotes? Did I

500
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:28.280
somehow forget or just not remember the
not so subtle Gabe some text between Clark

501
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:31.840
and Lex, I mean it has
to be deliberate, right, or oh,

502
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:37.760
just kiss already and out the cow
eyes again. Flex, you're just

503
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:43.079
so desperate. Oh, don't worry
about Lana, Clark, here comes your

504
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:49.840
real girlfriend in walks the shiniest dome
as Lex enters stage sunlight and bee lines

505
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.559
for his bay. That's right,
Lex called Clark to save you, save

506
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.679
your future husband Clark and so on. That was the thing, like Clex,

507
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:01.159
that was the thing back in the
message charges, back in the day,

508
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.760
like all the looks and the exchanges, especially in the Records Night episode,

509
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:07.960
Like and I think we even joke
about on the commentary because there's a

510
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.840
shot of like Clark in this trench
coat and Lex like kind of checks him

511
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:15.199
out like it's supposed to say,
like why is he wearing these clothes?

512
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:21.199
But it kind of the ways shot
and plate it's like Hey, any returning

513
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.119
home, I continue my rewatch.
It made it to season two, and

514
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.840
it's not as nearly fun without my
brother about to share my thoughts with or

515
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:31.719
the gummies. He's made it through
season ten. This man must be sainted

516
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:38.239
immediately post haste and is all small
built out. So I hunted out a

517
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:45.880
podcast or seven yours was is the
best? So here I am on episode

518
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.679
one oh, season one, episode
seventeen, looking forward to your insights.

519
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.000
I hope you start to remark on
the intex repressed sexual tension between Lex and

520
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:58.920
Clark, because I mean, it's
just there. I feel like we may

521
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:00.320
have made a few jokes over the
years of it, but I don't think

522
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:06.480
we do want it too much.
Yeah, just so you know. Oh

523
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.079
and I'm keeping my own tallies.
I called him the sexual Tension Awards.

524
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:15.559
You can guess what's on them.
Times Lex stares long Oh. Times Lex

525
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:20.239
stares longly at Clark. Times Clark. Lex is jealous, salty about a

526
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:23.719
relationship the other is in times they
call each other's name in intense moments.

527
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:29.039
Times they have saved each other.
It's always Clark saving, of course.

528
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.199
AnyWho. Sorry for the ramble I've
caught a cold and can do nothing but

529
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:36.800
laid in bed and watch Smallville or
play PlayStation while listen to your podcast.

530
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:46.079
All my well wishes always hold on
to something owls Again, everybody has been

531
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.119
respective on the show, right,
No, but thanks a lot. I

532
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.400
appreciate that. I appreciate that,
you know, so do you go by

533
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.840
Lana? I never thought that.
Yeah, it's like a lot of could

534
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.320
be. Yeah, like like if
like if they do a Superman Homecoming movie,

535
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:05.800
Lance, he'd have a friend named
a Lot on the whole movie.

536
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:13.280
Like that was a dumb twist,
like like she did not have to be

537
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.639
Mary Jane or she should have just
been Mary Jane the whole Like, hey,

538
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:20.599
show, you know, you know
what I'm saying, strange, like

539
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.199
unnecessary. It's like Superman Low's thing. It's like, can we just can

540
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.760
character just be who they are without
all these like yeah we got you earn

541
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:37.280
starvro blofeld Conudians sing Robin anyway.
No, thanks that, you know,

542
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:42.280
And I'm sorry if I disappointed with
my lack of commentary on the I was

543
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.559
just so fixated on the Clark and
Cloye stuff. Yeah that is fair,

544
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:50.559
that is definitely true. No,
but that was totally there though, though

545
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.719
you're absolutely right it is, You're
not the only person who saw that.

546
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:59.840
I guarantee it. Oh right,
Next, we have a five star Apple

547
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:04.159
podcast review from Eric Cown. He's
been on our Smavel season eleven episodes.

548
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:06.599
We are going to wrap those up
pretty soon, by the way. Uh,

549
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.400
he's gotten back to reading them,
and we're gonna I think we have

550
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:13.280
three four arcs left to do,
so we'll kind of cover those Smuvel Season

551
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.519
lit of comics and then I'll probably
cover them again. The podcast is over,

552
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:20.719
just in chronological order, but but
we'll see, We'll see. So

553
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.360
he says, great podcast, and
I'm not just saying that because they did

554
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:29.000
a few episodes. L O L
what other podcast feature seasons one to eleven?

555
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.599
There you go. He also runs
the Small Lit Season eleven facebook page.

556
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:36.159
That's how we got connected back in
the day. So have you read

557
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:37.880
the Smavel season eleven with comics?
Nick? I have not anything, but

558
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.159
I owned them, and I think
I gifted to you. I already had

559
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.199
them, so I think I gave
away in a podcast. I think that's

560
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:49.880
yeah, thank you, though,
you're somebody has to thank Nick. Somebody

561
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.960
out there. Next, we have
another five star Apple Podcasts for you from

562
00:38:53.039 --> 00:39:00.840
Brandon and Little Yeah or Little let
us Know Yeah, it says best podcast.

563
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.199
This is a fantastic podcast. I
enjoy it so much. I've listened

564
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.920
to everything twice. Fun to listen
to at work and during the late nights

565
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.320
with a new baby. So do
you guys ever re listen to podcasts?

566
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:16.079
Yes? Yes, been a while. Yeah, specific episodes of things that

567
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:21.480
I've really enjoyed or like I wanted
to listen to again. But mostly just

568
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.280
like things that I really enjoyed are
things that were really funny or fun It

569
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:28.960
is fun to uh, especially when
you forgot everything you said one like oh

570
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.039
man I said that four years ago
or what? Also? I found that

571
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:36.960
like if I because sometimes well a
lot I'm always listening. I'm usually doing

572
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.840
something else, I mean either driving
or busy work or something. Right,

573
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.159
I'm listening to a podcast. That's
what's good about podcasts are like you can

574
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.000
multitask just sit there, although sometimes
it's nicely the long daming a sitire and

575
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:50.400
listen to this podcast I was looking
forward to. But I've found that if

576
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.519
I'm doing something that requires a lot
more attention and I'm kind of like half

577
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:57.920
whistling then like if I'm done,
maybe like and then a couple of days,

578
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.639
I'm like, if you want to
listen to that, because it's just

579
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.760
kind of set second so anyway,
but no, it just fun to re

580
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.719
listen to stuff, and that's that's
that's what's fun. Like, I'm gonna

581
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:07.599
have this when this is all said
and done, hundreds of episodes to just

582
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.159
kind of go back and chronicle tenures
in my life, much like the show

583
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.360
itself. Yeah, so, Nick, did you know it was the same

584
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.679
age as Clark kid right then?
That would make me just a couple of

585
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.400
years younger. Yeah, I remember
when Chloe blew up, You're like,

586
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.280
you're right, she's gonna be low
less Lane. Did you know that they

587
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:27.960
confirmed that? Though no, I
didn't. Yes, I know, I

588
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.840
didn't know. Uh, but on
Talkville Alan Miles the Courage of the show,

589
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:37.599
we're on uh in season three and
Rosemont asked them. So it was

590
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.320
like a fan theory that the return
Chloe lows it is not true And I

591
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.000
was like, oh, yeah,
no, we thought about that. Uh.

592
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.599
DC Comics was giving us trouble having
access to the character lost Lane,

593
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:51.679
so we discussed maybe Lois would be
Chloe and she'd have like a synonym and

594
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:53.559
all that. So they discussed it. It would have been good because it

595
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.639
would have been like a pend.
Well, everything was setting. I mean,

596
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.559
they'll literally do that in season three. There's literally she uses like I'm

597
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:00.960
saying, like, that's the setup
was all there. That's why we're all

598
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:02.320
like, oh, they're gonna do
it, and then low it shows up.

599
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.760
But anyway, I just feltso vindicated. All right, and we have

600
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:10.119
another five star review from twilight Zone
zero zero one on Apple Podcasts. Is

601
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:15.840
it a Bird? No, It's
the Blur Superman without Superman. This is

602
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.000
a definite guide to the young early
two thousands. The show is a lighthearted

603
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:23.400
but informative look at the series which
was a part of many geek growing up.

604
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:30.440
Strong recommend well thanks twlide Zone zero
zero one. If you like the

605
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.039
Twilight Zone, you probably like the
twid Zone podcast with him on a lot.

606
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:35.480
Good friends with the host there,
Tom. We did some collaboration.

607
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It's currently on his advent calendar for
twenty twenty three. That was fun every

608
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:43.519
other day And I hope you've heard
of the twid Zone podcast. If your

609
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:45.519
name is twide Zone zero zero one. You haven't go check it out.

610
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.440
Twilight Poem's really good as well.
Are a different vibe over there, but

611
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:53.920
definitely just just as fun. Thanks
for that review. Smallvale Season nine on

612
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Blu ray and DVD. Between two
worlds you sent me here to fulfill.

613
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:07.679
Between two lives tvOS and fake laws. One hero must decide his destiny.

614
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.480
You have no idea which up against
this? Now season nine sores with amazing

615
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:20.119
extras that take you into the heart
of the Justice Society of America. Small

616
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Pill season nine on Blu Ray and
DVD. September seventh. You got an

617
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:30.079
email from Forrest. Yes, nis, Hey Forest, we met Forrest way

618
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:34.960
back at wizard World Austin. Yeah, twenty nineteen, right before the world

619
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:38.360
did before times. Yeah, all
right, So he sends an email candor

620
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:40.599
coverage for the mail bag. He
send us a couple of emails. One

621
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.719
requires an actual personal response, which
I feel bad it. Yeah, that

622
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.119
has been that long. Actually,
to be fair, you've seen some of

623
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.440
the dates of these emails and someone
else someone is relatively recent. So Forrest,

624
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.519
if you're listening to this, I
would have emailed you by now already.

625
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.840
So I'm sorry. I don't want
to be one of those. I've

626
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.639
been on the other end of those. I'm decidedly be hanging. But this

627
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.159
is your other email, and it
says, Hi, Zach, I typically

628
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.559
respond to your episode coverage by debriefing
allowed a load in my car or at

629
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:13.440
home after the show, but I'm
finally writing. I wanted to toss in

630
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:19.239
something about Candor use Candor. At
first, I was like, am I

631
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:24.159
been saying wrong? Candor? Y'all
spoke about how crushing it was the Clark

632
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:28.320
miss Jell during his brief time on
Earth. I agree it was devastating,

633
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.760
especially in a long line of losses
for our belove of kal El. Superman

634
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:34.559
is usually defined by the death of
Jonathan, but in Smallville, r.

635
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:38.800
Clark is haunted by many deaths.
This one felt cheap and a bigger blow.

636
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.719
Then they made it seem like you
said, he just bounces back seemingly

637
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:45.559
without impact the next week. I
think it was a great idea that was

638
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:52.880
executed poorly typical Smallville, right.
However, I've long thought about the sweet

639
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:57.559
parallel between Candor and progeny and Candor. Chloee tells Joel all about his son

640
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.719
when Clark is too late in parallel
Clark, which is the one who tells

641
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.280
me more a Sullivan all about Chloe
before she slips back into her catatonic state

642
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.480
when Chloe is too late and progeny. I'm certainly not accusing the writers of

643
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.960
production of designing this parallel, but
I think it is a beautiful side effects

644
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.360
set of bookends for us inside fans. As a cherished podcast host often quotes,

645
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.239
it's like poetry rhymes. It's not
poetry, they rhyme. That's the

646
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.599
actual quote. It's all like,
it's all taking. It's like, Houston,

647
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.480
we have a problem with I'm your
father. It's like poetry there.

648
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:29.320
Ye, And yes I did think
about that a progeny, but that's a

649
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.519
terrible episode, so I tried to
like one of That is one of the

650
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.559
worst episodes in the show. Total
continuity, disregard, complete waste of Linda

651
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:43.599
Carter, just just nonsense. Anyway, I not a thought on Candor.

652
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.239
I'm not sure it would have been
a good call to have Joel alongside Clark

653
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.679
all season, but your coverage,
maybe wonder would have been like if this

654
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.159
Charrelle had survived beyond the episode,
if he admitted it to salvation, it

655
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.679
would have up the stakes for Clark
even more, and choosing to send the

656
00:44:54.679 --> 00:45:00.880
Candorians away and even later surviving the
departure himself, he would have also had

657
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.599
to send Jorell away. It's almost
parallel to Joel sending him away as a

658
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.400
baby. Again, I'm not sure
having Joel as some recurring guests would have

659
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:09.559
made sense, but they could have
figured out a way to make it work

660
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:15.440
and still have him share more with
Clark about Rypton better counter the future version

661
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.519
angry controlling Joel we grew up on
in season two and three, et cetera.

662
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.000
I'll be curious what you think,
Hello from the Tiny Green Bottle City

663
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.039
Forest. I like that a lot. Actually, I like him having to

664
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.400
send his like maybe his mom would
have been there too, he had to

665
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.719
send them away as ing parailel.
I think that's something more for like an

666
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.840
adult Superman though, because like,
I would like that more if he was

667
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.159
like I had been Superman for like
ten years and his parents are even for

668
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.760
them back Becau's not even really Superman
yet, so reminds you of on the

669
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:43.119
super Man seventy eight comics. Though, over Joel and Laura are still alive.

670
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.840
In the Bottled City of I guess
it turns out they lived in Candor

671
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.840
Superman the movie because Brainiac kind him. I like that though, I kind

672
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:52.199
of like, does would that be
weird if like they were still alive?

673
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:55.719
These are clones though, So that's
the loophole to me. Yeah. The

674
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.239
weird thing about the Superman seventy eight
this is a combic based off the Crystal

675
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.119
re movies Nick came out recently.
The weird thing about that is like,

676
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.400
oh, so that they never died. Yeah, since these are clones,

677
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.280
I'm like, I kind of like
that idea for us. They could have

678
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.639
done something with that. I like
where you're going with that. So and

679
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:13.440
then having the if you knew who
was never going to see him again,

680
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.639
you know, because he didn't think
what that'd be interesting? Yeah? Like

681
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:22.760
that? Like that all right?
Next we have an email from Joshua M's

682
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.599
title love the podcast. Hey,
Zach, Lance, Nick and all the

683
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.039
other co hosts. I love the
podcast. I heard about it when Zach

684
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:36.519
was on Talkville. There. It
is the ultimate smovel rewatch podcast. I've

685
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.199
always been a Superman fan. My
dad showed me the movies growing up,

686
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:43.039
and my brother and I both dressed
as Superman for Halloween one year. I

687
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:46.599
didn't discover Smallville until I'd graduated from
college. I never had TV when when

688
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.880
in college, so I had to
go to the beach and go hiking to

689
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:52.760
hide my time. That's cool,
though, I'd be better off if I

690
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.159
didn't have TV when I was in
college. It's true. Did I mention

691
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:58.679
I went to college in Hawaii?
Well that makes sense. Oh, okay,

692
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.639
that makes sense. I got home
from college and my younger brother introduced

693
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:06.320
me to it. It was the
summer between the seasons three and four.

694
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.599
It's the nextest point of the show. It really is. WB was showing

695
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:13.000
reruns of season three at the time, and I really liked it. Well,

696
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.519
Philip Beginnis. People ask me what
that is, and like, that's

697
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.719
what it is. Yeah, I'm
beginning a small ABC family started showing reruns

698
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.800
and that's how I got caught up. The only reason that I really remember

699
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.519
watching Current was season four. My
brother and a couple of our friends would

700
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.000
get together, order pizza and watch
together. I remember us being really excited

701
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:35.480
about Run and all of the flash
references. I got Jay, Garrett,

702
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.199
Barry Allen, Wally West, whoever
you are, they never said, Wow,

703
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.519
he's part because they were making Flash
remember that Flash Wee that came out

704
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.920
over the two thousands. That's why. That's why he couldn't have Yeah,

705
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.719
Okay, they're gonna make a movie. Nick, they didn't do it.

706
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.360
That's my joke there. They they
locked this character from Smallville because of a

707
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.400
movie that was never made. Much
like we beat on Arrow, We'll get

708
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:57.960
there, y'all, Well you did
already we did, Nick, We'll get

709
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.239
there, y'all, I'll get there. He'll get there. At some point,

710
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.679
I kind of got out of watching
TV after that, was more into

711
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.400
hanging out with friends and then met
my wife. I finally reconnected with the

712
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.679
show when I went to fan X
in two thousand and eight eighteen. That's

713
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.360
Salt Lake City, so we were
not at that. No. I was

714
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.280
thinking, well, what was the
one that pandemic? Yeah, not gonna

715
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:22.679
call anything that amore. Nope,
make sure you're part of the fandomic.

716
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:28.559
Yeah. Unfortunately I wasn't able to
attend Rosenbaum Welling panel, but I watched

717
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.760
it on YouTube and decided I needed
to finish the show. Luckily it was

718
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:35.719
on Hulu by then. Hold on
Hulu, I barreled through it, and

719
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.800
here I am. I have an
ad for the tally Board, an ageless

720
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:44.199
aka exploding baby episode. This plot
is similar to the plot of Jack,

721
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.639
but of course Robin Williams doesn't explode
at the end, but he does age

722
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:51.639
quickly. I've thought about this because
I love Jack. I know people are

723
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.360
like that movie sucks. I love
that movie. Like maybe I saw it

724
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:57.920
at the right age. I was
a kid, related it as a teacher.

725
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:05.639
That's right. Yeah, Bill Cosb
is in it. Oh my goodness,

726
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:10.920
Wise everything has to be ruined.
Next thing, you're gonna tell me

727
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.760
several Smavel Madcasters committed felonies. No, I love a Jack, but I

728
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.239
don't think that applies because like that, that kid is around for like two

729
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:24.480
days. He blows up. So
you've seen Jack. Yeah, it was

730
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:28.000
a long time ago. So it's
directed by Francis for a Copple, I

731
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.800
think from The Godfather and Diane Lane
Martha kint Is. His mom had second

732
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:36.599
Robin. I love rob So yeah, I said that. I just said

733
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:43.760
that. You said you love that
Robin Williams. What, Okay? I

734
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:45.960
follow you. Now, that's a
great movie. I just it's one of

735
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.159
those things where like it's before the
Internet. You just exist. You're in

736
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:49.840
the world and you're like, oh
yeah, and then you go out there

737
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:51.800
like oh no, no, no, everyone thinks that sucks, like whoa

738
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.360
hold on? Hold on anyway,
But no, I'm not gonna cop that

739
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.880
for the for those reasons, and
that makes sense to you all my reasonings.

740
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.159
I always leave it up with the
guests. I'm agree with you on

741
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:06.079
this. Yeah we agree. All
right, Well that's the first thing you've

742
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:10.199
agreed with me on a while.
We're on the same side of the table.

743
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:15.079
Now we're still the round table.
I mean it's a week later.

744
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:20.480
Yeah, totally, totally at the
same spot. He goes on to say,

745
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.119
I always wondered, with all of
his this kryptonite lying around and giving

746
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:30.239
people powers, why don't we have
medior infecting animals. Why didn't the tear

747
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:35.559
and glow green and eat amy apps. That's such a funny sentence, No,

748
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.559
Bigfoot. I see it as a
missed opportunity for a fun one,

749
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:44.159
one off episode about all these cryptids
growing up in small film. I I

750
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:46.719
love Kryptosology. I would have loved
that, and I feel like one of

751
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:51.559
the novels I think it's the one
called dragon has a guide turned like a

752
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:55.960
dinosaur. Awesome, So I understand
it. Clark makes it uh uh lead

753
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.159
armor like a full like night suit
of armor. Anyway, That's that's my

754
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.360
understanding. Okay, but no budget
would be the reason, but that would

755
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.480
have been fantastic and really lean into
the X Files elements so small that I

756
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.800
always enjoy so that the great call
Great caller, Josh, Yeah, you

757
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:15.280
guys talk a lot about small towns. I grew up in Albuquerque, which

758
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.000
is the largest in our state,
but served a mission for my church in

759
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.719
rural Idaho. I find it funny
that the writers. I find it funny

760
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.079
what the writers think a small town
is. I think the biggest town around

761
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:31.159
was Idaho Falls, and they was
like twenty thousand people. So it's funny

762
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:35.280
to me when they say it's a
small town. It's fun to hear the

763
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:39.280
references to co ops and having to
go into town for tractor parts. Farmers

764
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:44.480
would have to go into Idaho Falls
if for some parts, because there was

765
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.480
dealership there. The co op would
have some things, but not everything.

766
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:51.199
Thanks for the podcast. I'm currently
watching season eight and I'm on season five

767
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:53.760
of your pod and I've loved your
coverage of Crisis on Infinite Earths. It

768
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:58.199
was fun listening to your predictions already
knowing the other that was that was the

769
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:02.280
fun times. Did you listen knows
Nick? No, you were you watching

770
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:07.199
Pricelin for Nurse at the time,
Yes, and no. I was like

771
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:12.119
I was doing the Twitter watch,
like watching all the the clips from you

772
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.360
are the worst kind of fan I
am not. I am a fan,

773
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:20.440
but not a dedicated fan. That
much is certain. You're you're you're a

774
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.559
die easy fan. Yeah. I
also never read any of the comics,

775
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.960
so I love to hear your insights
based on the comics. Thanks. Ps.

776
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.000
I dressed up as Lex Luthor for
Halloween one year. Shaving your head

777
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.320
is not fun. I get it. Michael seven years shoot my head.

778
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.599
Josh sedus a picture too. Also, I'll post it on the mill Bag

779
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.599
photo gallery. Yea with him and
his Lex that's good. And yeah,

780
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:43.920
we are going to cover the I
know I talked some season eleven stuff,

781
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:45.639
Eric, you know, like I
said, we'd done something we're going to

782
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:47.320
finish. But also there's some smovel
comics that came out at the time of

783
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:51.079
the show. We are going to
cover those those smuvel comics, and I'm,

784
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:52.719
you know, kind of shocked that
there's only like a dozen issues or

785
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.920
something. It didn't last. But
anyway, there you go. Should I

786
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.159
go ahead and do his podcast reviews
since the same person? No, okay,

787
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:10.280
that's such a dumb question. All
right, I don't know what happened

788
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:16.280
there. All right. Now we
have a five star review from Oh from

789
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:22.599
Josh EM's Same guys, let's awesome
podcasts. I love how they talk about

790
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.519
the show. I have never read
any Superman comics, but so it's so

791
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:34.039
fun to hear their insight. Oh
that's what he meant. I thought even

792
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.400
something at the end of the email
I talk about novel comics was asking us,

793
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:42.360
Yeah, yeah, read everything by
Jeff John's that's my that's my comic

794
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:46.199
close personal friend of the show.
Thanks Josh for the the very nice email

795
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:53.840
and then also the review. Yes, stupid question you asked. Stupid question.

796
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.400
All I got an email from Rocky. It says readings from East Texas.

797
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:07.519
Shout out to Texas, tex Forever, tis forever you watch Friday Night

798
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:13.840
Lights Nick just one or two episodes, guys, it was I watched it

799
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:17.199
because they were our rival I didn't
watch it because their band was our rivals.

800
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:22.039
What do you mean, wasn't it? Oh, Austin High School.

801
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:24.360
Austin High School was the band of
the band show in the movie, not

802
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:30.519
the show. It's a movie.
You watch the show, you watch two

803
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:35.440
episodes you thought of, Well,
hold on, just congratulations, bro,

804
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:40.079
you just played yourself. Wait,
I watched two episodes. This there's a

805
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:44.320
movie and a show in a book. Yes, in a real school.

806
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:47.840
There's a book about a real town, a real school. I never watched

807
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.320
the movie, but I did watch
at least two episodes of the show.

808
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:53.480
Okay, well the band and then
you refused to watch the rest because the

809
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.039
the band that you didn't like was
in the movie that you didn't even know

810
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.639
existed. Yeah, it's amazing.
Yeah, and well one of them,

811
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:05.159
so this is a plus. This
is so Yeah, Austin High School was

812
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:07.559
was Permian's band in the movie,
and then the school they played in the

813
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:12.559
final, Dallas Carter's band was will
Ridge. Oh why didn't we get to

814
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.400
be one of those bands? They
didn't ask us? Yeah, no,

815
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:20.960
right, all right. Greetings from
East Texas. Hello Zach and whoever is

816
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:27.000
on the next Mailbag episode with you
l O L. I only recently found

817
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.199
the show, and it is quite
the journey. It's actually thanks to Talkville

818
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:35.639
shout out to the Ultimate Smable rewatch
podcast. Back in the summer of this

819
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:37.800
year, twenty twenty three, I
found smovel on Hulu. I'm having a

820
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.880
rough year and long for the nostalgia
and good memories. I had watched the

821
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:45.920
show live when it ran, so
I started rewatching it. Then I saw

822
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.599
Tom Willing and micro Rosebomb were doing
a rewatch podcast, and I binged that

823
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.840
in doing so heard you on the
show. So when I caught up on

824
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:55.039
the current episodes on there, I'd
switched to your show since you have made

825
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:59.760
it way further. My history was
Smable was I watched the first seven seasons,

826
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:04.360
Slide didn't watch. Malana came back
when they killed leg. Slana left

827
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:06.760
the same episode. I also left
and never came back. I mean,

828
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:13.199
you know that I can argue with
that. Although that's an episode, terrible

829
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:15.000
episode, uh, one of the
most fun podcasts we did. Lance.

830
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:20.599
It's true me Roca Trucks and all
you guys giving out bees. I'm like,

831
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:23.480
hello, am I taken crazy pills? That's that's how I feel.

832
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:25.840
Most of the time. So now
you know how it feels. Welcome to

833
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:29.639
my life. Yost. That's for
Friday night lights snick. Do you know

834
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:36.599
that? I don't know anymore.
That's remember the Titans. You've seen that,

835
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:39.039
right, I've seen that one because
I really literally tell you to leave.

836
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:43.679
You had well, well, you
had to watch it in a health

837
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.239
class. What's her name, missus, the one who did pals. We'll

838
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:52.280
talk after this. Miss Slack called
nine to eleven nine to one one,

839
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.159
and it really bothered me. I
was like, that's not what it's called.

840
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:58.559
Well, she's also said other things. I was in her she was

841
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.480
she was an Oprah though I was
in her class the year of nine to

842
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:05.360
eleven, yeah and so, and
she would always talk about nine to one

843
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.280
one. I was like, stop
making what happen. It's not going to

844
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:10.400
happen. We should we should have
known then. All right, back to

845
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:15.400
the email. This time I completed
all ten seasons binging and on Hulu.

846
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:17.199
I was hoping that my kids,
especially my ten year old, like it

847
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.800
as much as me, but he
kept saying things like you still watching on

848
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:23.719
the horror show? If all this
bad stuff happens to the people in this

849
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:28.519
town. Why doesn't everybody move?
Both my kids stream in pain when they

850
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.880
hear somebody say me lol. But
in there the fence. I was watching

851
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:37.280
around three episodes daily during my rewatch
binge. I started your podcast where ours

852
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:40.079
on my rewatch was at the start
of season seven. I have now finished

853
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:44.360
my rewatch and then caught up on
the current season nine run at your podcast.

854
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.920
I can't wait for the comic Con
episode, which is a Warrior,

855
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:52.039
specifically for the scene where the guests
Kid with Powers and Chloe fly out of

856
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.679
the talent apartment and it is in
Metropolis's not small though, I don't remember

857
00:57:55.719 --> 00:58:01.599
that. That's I'm gonna be so
mad. Someone forgot where Koy lives,

858
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:05.280
so I was like, well,
surely she lives here, right she works

859
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:07.719
here? Oh of course, I
know you will rip it the shrep.

860
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:12.440
I remember loving that episode. Oh
man. Since I'm caught up, I

861
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.280
have went back and just listened to
certain episodes from the early years, the

862
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.800
pilot, the season finale, the
premieres, season pass. I plan to

863
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:22.880
listen to your show and talk feel
concurrently when they start season four, so

864
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.199
I will get their takes and your
takes at the same time. For the

865
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:29.480
possible worst season of the show.
I used to think I was like you

866
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:34.400
once, although after completing my rewatch, I now firendly think it's season ten.

867
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:38.559
Ooh, I think season ten is
really terrible. When Michael returns to

868
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:43.320
the finale, it makes you realize
how bad it was and how good he

869
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:46.079
is. This email is already long, so I will say my questions,

870
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:51.119
but I love the show as a
fellow Texan. I feel like I'm a

871
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.400
good company and can't wait to finish
the show with you that I found you

872
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:58.760
Well, that's his next emails from
the Same Guy Show. You just go

873
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:00.639
ahead and read it. No profession. Yes, such a stupid uestion.

874
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:09.360
Greetings from East Texas, Part two. Questions and thoughts to ponder. I'm

875
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:13.960
a Klana fan in This Smallville Earth
the one, p. Sixty seven,

876
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.199
it has always made more sense to
me that Clark ends up with Lana.

877
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:20.639
I know this is going to be
a hot take for Zach. It seems

878
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:24.400
the longer the podcast goes, his
detaste for Lana grows. I know later

879
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:30.360
they finally made Clark and Lewis end
up working ending up together work. The

880
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:34.440
first five year plan of the show
was not the case. But I'm veering

881
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:38.559
off course now after rewatching the show. At the end of Requiem, Clark

882
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:42.639
vows to find a way for Lana
and him to be together, and he

883
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:45.840
never does, except he literally had
away in his possession at the time.

884
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:49.400
He had a legion ring. He
could have went back and stopped Lana from

885
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.960
getting the procedure. He could have
stopped the attack at the wedding. He

886
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:55.800
could have went back and stopped Brainiac
from taking Lana over in the first place,

887
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:04.400
and also stopping Lex from finding the
orb explaining people what that is.

888
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.400
It's a sort of a podcast about
deep says nine that Zach and I listened

889
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:15.360
to and got frustrated with. But
I just like how they say those two

890
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:22.599
words. Of course, this is
all hindsight, good fun fan writing after

891
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:27.039
this fool rewatch, even as Lana
and Clark as a Lana and Clark shipper,

892
01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:30.159
I don't think she should have come
back in season eight. I only

893
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:34.000
said that because Clark himself said he
was going to find a way to be

894
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.039
with her again. Now moving on
to Chloe. When it comes to Chloe,

895
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:40.119
I think I had the reverse opinion
of her, as you my first

896
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:43.840
watch of the show. I didn't
like Chloe at all. I kept waiting

897
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:45.400
for her to get killed off every
season. I was like, Wow,

898
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:51.320
Chloe is still here. I had
the same lot of blinders on as Clark.

899
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.559
I guess this time watching it all
the way through, I didn't feel

900
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:57.800
that way. In fact, I
thought during season four and season six,

901
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:01.559
especially that there should have been time
where Clark and her could have dated and

902
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:07.159
either they both realized they were better
friends or she becomes los lol or dots

903
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:12.960
was confirmed. No, he has
an lol, I know I don't,

904
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.400
or dies to bring him back with
her meteor power lol. It makes more

905
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:21.840
sense watching it throughout this time,
especially after she finds out his secret and

906
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.719
doesn't have to lie and he doesn't
have to lie to her anymore. On

907
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:30.480
the geographic location of Smallville to Metropolis, it has always bothered me as much

908
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:34.440
as has bothered you that the distance
always changes. I live about two hours

909
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.320
from Dallas, and you can only
see the skyline from about twenty minutes from

910
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:40.440
the city. There are people that
work in Dallas and live here, but

911
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:44.360
they usually stay in Dallas and only
come back to East Texas when they're off

912
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.760
on the weekend. They don't commute
every day. So even in the first

913
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:52.079
season when they showed Metropolis from the
windmill in the Coandemus Preachius, I was

914
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:55.639
like, oh, no, what
are they doing. I always thought Metropolis

915
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.880
was on the East Coast. I
didn't think it was New York. I

916
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.639
thought Gotham City was New York City, but then I heard Gotham would be

917
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:07.360
closer to Chicago with all the mob
activity. But they really do even move

918
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.440
it as the show goes on.
I like to rationalize, along with the

919
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:15.280
Veritas ratcon, that someone like Brainiac
or other another villain or hero like the

920
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:20.760
Flash is messing with the timeline,
causing Smallville Mendela effects or Butterfly effects as

921
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.480
they change things, usually small things
like continuity errors and ages, but sometimes

922
01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:29.039
they mess up something big and the
Veritas window is created. Well, let's

923
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.000
get go on forever. I better
end this love the show or appreciate the

924
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.679
work y'all do, and I can't
wait to finish this journey with y'all even

925
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.760
through season ten. Well, that
that is the prevalain theory, that Brainiac

926
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:40.760
came back in time and apocalypse,
and that that's why season eight is the

927
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:44.480
way it is. With I'm like, fine, sure they've never said that,

928
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:46.840
but we're going with that. Also, you have a similar thing with

929
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:52.400
talk about Worland tropols. Where is
star City. It's sometimes Inland, sometimes

930
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:55.440
it's like on the East coast,
West coast. It should be on the

931
01:02:55.440 --> 01:03:00.440
West coast, it should be Seattle
is essentially what Star City is in the

932
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:04.440
comic books, but like it's all
over the place in arrow like in the

933
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:08.639
maps and stuff. So all right, and now we have an Apple podcast

934
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:14.760
five star review for Rocky eleven.
I found some new podcast friends. Found

935
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:19.000
this podcast through rewatching Smallville on Hulu
in August of twenty twenty three. I

936
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.400
started in season seven since that's where
I was in my rewatch. I love

937
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:25.760
the banter between the guest host and
Zach. I love that we also don't

938
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:30.280
agree on different aspects of the show, but all love the show overall.

939
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.199
Keep up the good work because we
still have a season and a half to

940
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:38.559
go. Lol. Thanks Rocky again, very long, thoughtful emails and a

941
01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:42.679
great review. I love the banter
too. You know, when I first

942
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:44.840
started back in the day, we
talked about this lance. I was like,

943
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.480
well, I'm gonna ask you to
be on every episode A big ask,

944
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:49.599
so like, I'll just road table
call. I don't know, Nick

945
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:52.000
will probably do it. Yeah.
We quickly got a good stable of people,

946
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:54.639
people that we hadn't known, and
then we as things expanded. You

947
01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:59.719
know, we've really expanded our our
network of friends and fellow podcasters here and

948
01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:01.679
it's been part of the real podcast. Is the fringe you make along the

949
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:03.800
way, That's what I say,
the trench you make and lose along the

950
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:08.840
way? Am I right? Yeah? But uh yeah, thank you for

951
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:14.039
the review. We have a couple
of Reddit comments because I actually made a

952
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:17.559
post on Reddit. I rarely do
this. I made a Reddit account specifically

953
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:23.119
always on the Smallville, always moveled
one s, so I could just post

954
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:25.800
episodes and I did it for a
while and I just stopped and whatever.

955
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:29.239
But when talkill happen, there's always
buzz about it. And now I come

956
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.079
up a lot on Reddit. So
that's why I'm like, you know,

957
01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:35.320
I very occasionally comment like, oh
hey, thanks check out the show this

958
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:38.840
to that I did, I made
a post about like, hey, we're

959
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:41.400
gonna be maybe not coming up if
you had any questions whatever, then read

960
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:44.599
it like took it down for like
self, proselytizing. I was like,

961
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:47.679
what anyway, I did get a
couple of comments in before I got taking

962
01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:53.159
down, and those of these are
from Mean Choice twenty two to sixty seven.

963
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:58.119
What is your all time top ten
favorite Smallville characters, ranking based on

964
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:02.199
likability and writing. We don't all
have to go thinking about it. I

965
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:05.199
thought about this a little bit.
I would definitely say Lionels number one,

966
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:15.840
lex Is number two a few years
ago, said Chloe. But I mean

967
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.760
Clark number three is not gonna to
be in top three. Those are those

968
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:23.760
are my top three? Okay,
So outside of that, Jonathan and Martha,

969
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:30.480
Okay. Five I gotta say Chloe
because for what she met for so

970
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:40.800
many years. To me, Chloe, Let's say Alicia, Team Alicia because

971
01:05:42.119 --> 01:06:02.920
I will not be messed. Eight
did the alternate versions of Lionel tests?

972
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:08.599
I love tests? Actually test is
great? Nine mm hmm. I guess

973
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:11.800
it's it's one of two. One
of two are left. It would be

974
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:14.880
my guest for you somebody from the
Justice League. I haven't decided which one.

975
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:18.760
Akaman stay super Bro. Yeah.
I was gonna say it's either him

976
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:21.880
or it's either him or Oliver Bart. He's just not enough, he's in

977
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:25.280
Run and then he's kind of a
Justice, and then he's like nothing in

978
01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:30.079
Doomsday, and then Achaman actually had
some some stuff to do in Aqwall Injustice

979
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:32.480
and Patriot, he's in Honesty like
he's around, and then all of her

980
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:35.840
Unfortunately, the longer he was there, the more stock he was dropped.

981
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:40.039
That's and that's that's why I knew
Lois wouldn't be wouldn't make your list,

982
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:44.079
because for most of the show she
was not lowess. Right, thank you,

983
01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:45.920
I'm sorry again, Like if if
if Ergan Renan showed up play a

984
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:49.119
Little Lames, He's Night nineteen.
But you know what, there's four,

985
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:55.000
five, six, and seven where
she's a muffin pelding college dropout to coat

986
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:59.559
Legs Luthor. So those are my
top ten Smubble characters. So all right,

987
01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:01.559
I'm really thought that's a fun question. I really thought about that before.

988
01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:09.480
Then finally Gus Stinks says this,
love you, Zach and what y'all

989
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:12.840
have done with your podcast universe is
incredible. Shout out to all the other

990
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:17.320
podcasts out there. I'm impressed with
some of the adult themes that Smallville tackled.

991
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:21.719
For example, Perry White's manipulative suicide
attack or the episodes dealing with child

992
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:27.119
abuse. Comparatively, it seems like
the aeroverse shied away from such heavy themes.

993
01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:30.320
I'm curious about your thoughts as to
why this may be. Given how

994
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:32.840
much more violent the Aero verse was, it seemed like they stayed within safer

995
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:36.800
lanes thematically. Now that is interesting. That is interesting. Let's talk with

996
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:40.719
this for a second. I'm glad
this is this is a nice final thing

997
01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:43.960
to chew on. As you wrap
up here, you look at small Vie

998
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:45.159
like, oh, it's like it's
like the Lighter Show, and it's like

999
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:56.679
theme that sounds familiar. But I
don't know what he's going for. But

1000
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.400
I do think we have stuff like
Ryan in there, like in his episode,

1001
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:03.719
and as much as of Miss as
it was the subterranean thing, they

1002
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:09.400
tried to tackle something like the complete
miss but they were like hey, immigration,

1003
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:12.199
and you know, I'm like okay, wow, like like mirgroant workers

1004
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:14.760
on farms, like damn okay.
So you think about that and you think,

1005
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:16.760
okay, they covered some some some
good stuff that Oh yeah, I

1006
01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:20.920
mean the like I think about uh, fragile, the girl and her stepdad,

1007
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:24.479
the glass parts, stuff like that, right, usually with kids,

1008
01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:26.560
I guess as what I'm thinking of, Actually all those kids did, right,

1009
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.800
I mean the Arrow you know,
oh it's dark, gritty show,

1010
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:32.079
right, And I feel like they
were kind of in the first couple of

1011
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:35.359
seasons they like were almost around that
way. But then you think of the

1012
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:38.960
gun control episode and like this is
why, so what are your thoughts on?

1013
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:42.680
Well, my thoughts are he's right
to in a certain extent because it

1014
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.880
did tackle topics in the aero votes
like overall, like not just Arrow but

1015
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:47.960
other shows. But unfortunately, a
lot of the times they just kind of

1016
01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:51.680
botch them, and like the gun
control episode for example, like the infamous

1017
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:57.039
one. I don't think Flash ever
tackled anything heavy ever in that it's nine

1018
01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:00.279
years Supergirl tried some things, but
it didn't. It didn't work out.

1019
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:03.119
Like they tried like the political times
that we were living in at the time.

1020
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:09.159
They tried to make their statement on
some of the z on xenophobia,

1021
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:11.399
right, They they tackled a lot
of that type of stuff. Some of

1022
01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:14.359
it worked, some of it didn't. They had good storylines, you know

1023
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:19.720
in season two with with Uh with
Alex and Maggie Sawrier and I thought that

1024
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:24.840
whole line of of of Alex coming
out and dealing with them like a being

1025
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:27.199
in a relationship. I thought all
of that was great. I love Maggie

1026
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:30.079
and I and I and still to
this day hate that she was only the

1027
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:34.039
season on the show. For one
season that was that really well. I

1028
01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:36.279
really liked her and I thought she
was I thought she was a great addition

1029
01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:42.000
to the show. And so they
they did do some things. But at

1030
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.319
the same time, do I think
that overall, I think that you know,

1031
01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:48.399
the company and the company above was
just like y'all could have some you

1032
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:50.600
know, like with Special with Arrow, y'all could be violent and edgy and

1033
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:53.640
certain things, but we're not going
to tackle certain things. We're just not

1034
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:59.000
going to touch it. He should
be And then like and and Kevin and

1035
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:00.439
I have talked about this on the
show before, like there's no way that

1036
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:04.319
that network was going to let them
do that. And even the stuff that

1037
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:10.079
they've trust that they tried to do
with Oliver being you know, as liberals

1038
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:12.960
as he possibly can for that show, there's certain things like when he's his

1039
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.640
policies as mayor and just some of
his actions, especially in their earlier seasons,

1040
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.359
like the things that he's going out
and crossing the people off of the

1041
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:21.159
list. For some of the things
that they're doing, it's in it's in

1042
01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:26.079
character for Oliver Queen to take those
people down. But as far as like

1043
01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:31.000
having special episodes or having narrative stances
on certain things, they didn't really try

1044
01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:34.880
a whole lot. They did a
little bit, but not as much as

1045
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:39.840
they probably could have or should have. Supergirl probably tried the hardest out of

1046
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:45.399
all the trash Flash didn't do anything. I will say though. Stargirl though,

1047
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.039
has very similar to Small Villain how
it handled some of these things.

1048
01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:51.079
So it's handled, it's handled death, it's handled because again their kids.

1049
01:10:51.079 --> 01:10:56.720
But again, you know, if
to paraphrase what Jeff was talking about on

1050
01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:00.159
a Nail's episode, yes, Jeff
John's mister John's was talking about in the

1051
01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:04.680
episode, like Small, Stargirls is
very much a spiritual successor to small in

1052
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:08.439
the sense it takes place in a
small town. It's kids in high school

1053
01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:11.720
dealing with a lot of these little
type of things, and so there's there's

1054
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:16.039
some parallels to, you know,
what they were doing on that show to

1055
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:19.199
what Smallville was doing. So that
show kind of takes up the mental in

1056
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:29.000
that regard always is awesome. First
episode, Yeah, oh why not?

1057
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:32.960
Why not? Stargo's awesome. It
is every bit the celebration of DC that

1058
01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:39.439
people think other things were also.
I think Black Lightning. Black Lightning also

1059
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:43.479
actually tackles that stuff. But then
they get lost in the sauce. Would

1060
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:45.600
you say, yes, they do? They do after like the first season?

1061
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:48.239
Yeah, so again, and I
think like the shows that do these,

1062
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:51.039
like Arrow first two seasons, they
kind of tried and did it and

1063
01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:55.640
didn't really mess with it afterwards.
Supergirl tried the hardest but it didn't really

1064
01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:00.159
work out. Flash didn't do anything. Stargirls pretty good at it, black

1065
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.159
Lightning was good after the first two
and a half seasons or so. So

1066
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:05.199
there's there's there's stuff in there.
I don't know if I will go as

1067
01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:08.920
far as saying that small Will did
it better. I will say that smug

1068
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:12.039
Will probably did it more. Yeah
more, I agree with that. Yeah,

1069
01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:15.319
but I think it probably all comes
around bounces out well. They didn't

1070
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.439
have like well eventually I guess they
did. But the era versus all the

1071
01:12:17.479 --> 01:12:20.239
superhero teams, there's plenty of story
potential there. Smalls like what do you

1072
01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:23.960
do this week? Yeah, I
don't know, if you're like a border

1073
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:26.760
crisis, yeah for example. Yeah, so it's a little different. Yeah,

1074
01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:30.199
different circumstances. But that is interesting
though. Yeah. No, thanks

1075
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:33.560
for bringing that up. There you
go. That is mail Bag number twelve,

1076
01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:38.560
Part two. So good to see
you guys another week. Yep,

1077
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.039
a week later from when we did
the last one. Do you guys have

1078
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:48.159
a good New Year's Yes? It
was great. Yeah. Yeah, the

1079
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:54.840
first episode comes out after New Year's
two. Yeah, it's still tracks.

1080
01:12:57.399 --> 01:13:00.079
Man. People like, what are
you talking about? Oh, this has

1081
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:03.800
been great. We'll do it again
in between seasons nine and ten. Yeah,

1082
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:08.279
well, as long as you guys
keep sending in mail be great,

1083
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:10.039
Like we love that. I love
doing this. I don't know about you

1084
01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:13.159
guys. No, this is fun. It's a good way to hang out

1085
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:15.119
and catch up too. And I
know, I know, I kind of

1086
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:16.960
laugh it off and stuff. Really, I really do appreciate all the everybody

1087
01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:20.920
finding me through Talkville and saying that
we're the best want and that kind of

1088
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:26.079
thing like that. That means a
lot because I really appreciate reviews, emails,

1089
01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:29.359
messages and just know that all everything
you send to us is read and

1090
01:13:29.399 --> 01:13:31.520
everything is appreciated. So continue to
do that and we'll continue to have these

1091
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:38.279
mailbag episodes. We'll be back all
together from mail Bag number thirteen after after

1092
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:41.119
season nine, between season nine and
TENS coverage. But until then, Lance,

1093
01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:43.920
where can people find you out there? They can find me at Sir

1094
01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.359
Lance Laster on all of my social
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1095
01:13:46.359 --> 01:13:49.920
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1096
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:54.560
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1097
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:57.439
All right, what about you?
Nick? All right? And I'm also

1098
01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:00.199
on Twitter at Nick Ryan. I'm
not really on it as much as often,

1099
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:05.359
but you can really do find me
on Instagram that's at Nickryan dot jpg

1100
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like a jpeg. All right,
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1101
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