1 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,039 What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season two, episode thirty 2 00:00:21,519 --> 00:00:26,280 of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck Mockler. William Updyke is joining us 3 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:31,199 as well. Adam Ouslin still under the weather? Are you not talking? 4 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:37,159 As I was? Will's do my bit. Adam Oslin is usually with us. 5 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,439 He's still under the weather. He did want us to tell everyone this 6 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,600 is a direct quote from Adam. My efficiency and my eventual return will be 7 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,159 like Kawhide dropping forty one. So that's good to hear. Believe it when 8 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:55,000 I see it man and Will's will skeptical. We hope everyone's doing well. 9 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:58,880 This Sunday evening. We're gonna be talking the Clippers eight and three over the 10 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,400 last night as we generally, We're gonna be talking Clippers last eleven games. 11 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,680 How that's looked. Really, also want to ask, like how badly that 12 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,560 Nuggets lost poisoned our brains from this season of course, the one where Reggie 13 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,439 DJ went off. We're gonna talk Norman Zoo's great stretches of play. There 14 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:23,799 is a fantastic new nickname for Norm plus uh the regular starters instead of Terrence 15 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:29,719 Man that we need to go over and then we're gonna pre Powel Rangers. 16 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,439 Shit, it is not, but we're putting that on the list as well. 17 00:01:34,599 --> 00:01:42,439 Powell Rangers is man. This is again wish Adam was here for this. 18 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,519 H Powell Rangers also a great nickname. They were talking the back to 19 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,719 back Portland, which has some key one key, very key person out and 20 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,680 then a couple of other guys questionable. Oh no, the game against the 21 00:01:55,799 --> 00:01:59,359 Kings. But first, if you listen to our last episode, people hated 22 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,840 it. We have a new guest on to talk to. We brought Jillian 23 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:09,319 Zucker on to talk. Everyone's well, how are you doing before we get 24 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:14,000 into the Clippers talk. I'm doing good. Yeah, relaxing, restorative weekend. 25 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,199 I'm ready to, you know, pretend to do work this week and 26 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,400 then I'm I'm heading on a little vacate. So I'm feeling good. I'm 27 00:02:20,439 --> 00:02:23,120 hoping the clips keep me in a good mood coming into this holiday season, 28 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,759 because you never know, they can really do you dirty, as they did 29 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:30,719 one year versus the MAVs in a Christmas that my family is still going to 30 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,000 talk about. No, you're back off to Montana, right, Yeah, 31 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,719 that's correct. There we go. Fantastic well, let's get into it. 32 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:46,159 Clippers eight and three over their last eleven. Is the taste of that you 33 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:49,599 mentioned the Clippers being able to let us down sometimes? Is the taste of 34 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:58,000 that Nuggets loss gone for you? Are we past that? Because that poisoned 35 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,240 my brain a bit. I was shot. I wasn't shocked, but it 36 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,759 was all those things where it was like, oh shit, okay say this. 37 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:13,000 Worried about this, I would say some It's it's starting to the point 38 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,960 where like that is starting to fade. You know, you've bathed, You've 39 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,439 bathed the skunked dog in tomato sauce, whatever you gotta do. You're you're 40 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:23,560 cooking it up like a little marin ea uh. And it still kind of 41 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:25,159 stinks, but it's you know, it's a lot better. It's your dog 42 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:30,960 again and the Clippers, the Clippers are definitely looking a lot better. It's 43 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,919 just that Nuggets want just hurt so much because it's like just the encapsulation of 44 00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:40,199 sort of everything in an overarching sense that's kind of been wrong with this team 45 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,199 really in the two and three era. And so I'm not gonna harp on 46 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,840 it anymore. We've talked about it, and we've talked about it enough. 47 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,280 The Clippers have looked a lot better. I was. I was thoroughly impressed 48 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,960 with the way that they were able to like really put their foot on the 49 00:03:54,039 --> 00:04:00,280 throats of the Jazz in Utah in a road game when once again we all 50 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:04,199 a backcourt pairing that hasn't worked. We thought we had completely moved away from 51 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,719 it, which was successful, and then for some reason we moved back to 52 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:12,000 it, and lo and behold, it wasn't that successful. But just through 53 00:04:13,159 --> 00:04:17,160 just through sheer like hard effort and will on the defensive end and just some 54 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,959 really great offense, we were able to come out of that one. And 55 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,680 I talked a little bit with Adam. I still had some concerns of some 56 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,439 issues with the game. But long story short, that stench of the Nuggets 57 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,639 loss is starting to wear off. This is starting to feel like a much 58 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,279 more real eight and three. You know, when we talked about this, 59 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,319 Okay, when we talked about it earlier, it's like, you know, 60 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,120 you look at the quality of the wins, maybe not the best, but 61 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:43,360 now they've put together a couple of good ones and this Utah one. Look, 62 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,720 I get that Utah isn't tearing up in the standings. It's a hard 63 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:50,639 team, that's a hard road game. Okay, we've been there for since 64 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,800 twenty seventeen or something like that, a really really long time, a really 65 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,319 really long time, so that one was to me, was good to see 66 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:06,319 and obviously not as impressive standings wise, you know, playoff ability wise as 67 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,519 the Nuggets game. But the Nuggets game, I did feel a lot of 68 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:15,639 stuff kind of to go right in our ways. Some of some was earned 69 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,240 and some you know, some things a little bit broke our way. But 70 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:21,399 it's starting to feel more and more real that this team is pulling it together 71 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:25,800 and I'm in a much better place with where they are. I'm still not 72 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,800 you asked me last episode, and I know people were furious about this, 73 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:31,079 but like you do, I think that this is like a championship team. 74 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:34,639 I'm still not there yet yet. But do you want a time stamp it? 75 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,399 Because that was the key component of the last episode. Yeah, as 76 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,079 of December tenth, Like, I'm not there yet, but this team is 77 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,959 looking the best that it's looked so far, and it is seeming like we're 78 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,360 gonna be able to make this work. Despite some there are some kind of 79 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,560 weird things that we have to work around in the roster. Yes, we're 80 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,079 going to talk about I got a text from Joseph Fryer Award, former Clipper 81 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,720 podcast great who had a bold take over the next twenty games. We're gonna 82 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:05,079 talk a Clipper podcaster, just joking. I hope you hear this thoughts today. 83 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:12,759 I hope Joseph is doing well. I think I one thing that helps 84 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:18,800 me deal with the the Nuggets loss is that people were worried about Kawhi Leonard 85 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:23,680 for some reason. Okay, that's this one has never made sense to me 86 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:27,959 all season long. I feel like this has been that we've talked a little 87 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,360 bit about. I think it's troubling that they've lost the majority of the games 88 00:06:31,399 --> 00:06:34,959 with I mean up until this stretch with Kawhi and Paul George playing together. 89 00:06:35,079 --> 00:06:40,959 That to me is concerning. I think there's like there's more questions in the 90 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,000 play style than the players, if that makes sense, absolutely, because that, 91 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,160 yeah, I said it on I think it was one of the early 92 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,360 double dips with Adam that we do on AM five seventy. If you're here 93 00:06:51,399 --> 00:06:54,319 to the show, we're gonna go on after the game. I'm talking about 94 00:06:54,399 --> 00:06:58,519 a little bit where I was like, well, I still shows up to 95 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,399 those. Adam still shows up to them. His actual job, his actual 96 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,120 job. Some people got priorities. I guess the man is sick. He's 97 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:13,439 ordering fu uh send some fun Adam's way if you're in Burbank. I basically 98 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,079 said, like, let's not all be surprised when Kawhi Leonard starts playing really 99 00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:20,079 well and the Clippers follow suit, like the man is the engine of this 100 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:26,360 team. The last game from I felt like from the second bucket that Kawhi 101 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:30,519 got against the Jazz that it was just like, okay, good luck everybody 102 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:35,040 else trying to do anything tonight, because Kawhi looked determined, like this is 103 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:41,120 what we need to see from Kawhi. He's been fantastic. Over what do 104 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:45,879 you say that the performance was? Stathan asked. Stathan ask he was Would 105 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,480 you call him the beekeeper? Sure, he is the beekeeper of the Clippers. 106 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,879 Did you wait, did you see the beekeeper? No? I haven't 107 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:54,959 yet. But isn't Utah to be hype state? I don't know. It 108 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:01,959 is the bee hype state because everyone is so productive like bees is reason not 109 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:07,399 very good Kawhi over the last five games twenty seven to six and four with 110 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,600 forty points the other night. He's looking phenomenal. James Harden also looking more 111 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:18,160 comfortable. Are you surprised over the last five games he's averaging two steals Harden? 112 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,560 Yeah, No, He's an active hands guy. Look, I'm not 113 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,800 gonna I'm not gonna cape for Harden's defense and say that it's like great anything. 114 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,600 But he has at times been, you know, an elite post defender, 115 00:08:31,639 --> 00:08:33,639 and he's very active hands that can swing both ways. You know, 116 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,799 you can like that can turn into a foul prone game where you're really in 117 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,879 trouble. But he did during when he was still in the MVP conversation, 118 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,159 he was you know, top of the league in deflections most of those years. 119 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:48,120 So this isn't like, this isn't brand new. Is when I'm sortal, 120 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,559 you know, you worry about obviously you worry about the fouls. But 121 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,759 other than that, No, it's great. Yeah, still good, It's 122 00:08:56,759 --> 00:08:58,879 still good. I'm just saying it's like not coming out of nowhere. I 123 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:03,960 guess sure fair Yeah, nineteen four and eight over these last five games, 124 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:09,919 Tylu had a great quote about him in justin Russo his substack is really good. 125 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:13,840 He's using Harden like Lebron, he said, I think using him a 126 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,320 lot like Lebron in Cleveland. Just a great passer at the elbow, lou 127 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:22,360 said when asked what has made the Clippers offense so potent when Harden is operating 128 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,399 as a ball handler and playmaker, specifically in these elbow sets, he said, 129 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:28,840 then having Kawhi and PG just working off pinned downs, rip screens and 130 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,679 seeing if the defense messes it up and kind of get those guys shots. 131 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,279 He's been really good at the elbows, and it's true. James Harden also 132 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,480 made fun of Justin Russo for being short. Did you see that exchange? 133 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,519 I did, Yeah, that was good stuff. Justin Rousso handled it well. 134 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,720 But Harden was basically like he can see over people, so he knows 135 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:52,559 what to make these passes. Commented that Justin Rousso probably couldn't see over those 136 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:58,919 people and then left, which was great. But the hardened thing, he's 137 00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:05,240 not taking as many shots, but that's good, Like that's gonna. He's 138 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,039 running things so well as the driver of the offense that it's like, let's 139 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,120 keep on this pace. This is wonderful stuff from James Harden and so far. 140 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,080 Yeah, he's also been and I talked about this a little bit with 141 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,200 Adam, but he has been a huge key of Zubots having this insane strategy. 142 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:26,639 Yeah, we're talking about He's a huge benefit of James handling the ball. 143 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:30,120 Great pick and roll partner. Zoo talk post game about how much they've 144 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:33,559 been working on that before every before every game, after every practice. Just 145 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,960 the two of them are running through like their pick and roll coverages, what 146 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,639 they want to do, what they're going for, how to react when the 147 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,519 defense counters. So that is really really encouraging. But yeah, we can 148 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,360 talk about this some more later, but uh, yeah, I'm loving the 149 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,279 stuff from Harden. I think in terms of his shots, I want to 150 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,919 see him be aggressive. I don't want to see him turn down anything, 151 00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:58,159 but to me, obviously should be quiet and Paul George with the Lion's share 152 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,519 of the actual field goal attempts, I'm fine with him being the third or 153 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:05,440 fourth most, depending on how many looks Norm is kidding where that's a good 154 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,799 call. Yeah, especially if Waite Norm's been playing, and how white Norm's 155 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,879 been playing in a lineup with James Harden specifically, sometimes you gotta ride that 156 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:18,720 that norm heater. That can happen, but it's great to see the starters 157 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:22,480 continuing to be really good together. That lineup change came, you know, 158 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,679 a couple of games like whatever, whatever. But we're here now, a 159 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,759 gatting eight and three over the last eleven. So Joseph ryt Ward texts me 160 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:33,240 kind of a bold take in the middle of the Utah Jazz game. He 161 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:39,320 thinks the Clippers are going fourteen and six over their next twenty pull up the 162 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,879 schedule. He pull up the schedule by the Clippers. Can we share a 163 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:43,679 screen on here? Do we figure out how to do that? Yet? 164 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Try? There's a button at the bottom. You're watching this on YouTube or 165 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,399 listening to this. I don't know that we'll cut this out. We you 166 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,639 know, sometimes we're messing around on here. All right, hold on, 167 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,879 got it? Hey, there we go, look at us using technology. 168 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:03,080 Oh if I ride the normy, I absolutely am. So here we go. 169 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:07,080 We got the jazz which he counted in this. Okay, including the 170 00:12:07,159 --> 00:12:09,919 jazz game, the Clippers go fourteen and six. So there, I like 171 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:15,320 it. There, let's look at the so the way I mean, Trailblazers. 172 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,639 I don't want to pencil anything in here. Also, gender Ayton's or 173 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,720 not. Jeremy Grant's out of that game, So there's probably a dumb where 174 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,720 we seeing the losses. Where do you think the six losses can come from? 175 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:39,200 Here? I'm thinking so, I think I think New Year's Day. 176 00:12:39,919 --> 00:12:43,279 I think January first. We can maybe chalk that as we have no idea 177 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,840 what's going to happen the New Year's Day game. I think that's fair. 178 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:50,679 It's a weird time. It's an evening game though. Oh that's true evening 179 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,440 game if it was new and I'd say lost for sure. Okay, so 180 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,200 I'm thinking we for sure drop at least one of the suns. We lose 181 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:05,639 to the Pelican I think we drop one to the Timberwolves. We're playing. 182 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:09,240 The Timberwolves defense right now is the only half court defense better than the Clippers. 183 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:15,279 But their stats are like they're shitting on everyone in the half court defense. 184 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:20,240 It's crazy. Did I say timber Wolves? Yes, Okay, yeah, 185 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,200 we lose to the Timberwolves. I think we lose a revenge game to 186 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:30,159 the Mavericks. I think we lose to the Boston Celtics. I'm not guaranteeing 187 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,320 any of these. I'm just saying, if this is, if this is, 188 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,840 this is fourteen and six, I'm saying, these are ones that I 189 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,799 could pencil in that I could see a loss in and not in a way 190 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,840 where I'm like pissed about that totally. If the process is good, It's 191 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,039 like it's like we say a lot. If the process is good and we 192 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,480 lose, it's hard to be too upset sometimes, and then I think we 193 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,080 drop one of either the Kings or Warriors game. Yeah, I think the 194 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,000 Bay Area. I think, yeah, that those Wealth or the Pacers or 195 00:13:56,039 --> 00:14:01,399 the Pacers game. I don't know, but that Pacers is going to be 196 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,240 depending how dude, that Pacers game is going to be a really good game, 197 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:09,039 depending how I like those los. I mean, I don't like those 198 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,120 losses, but I like thinking about where these losses might come from, which 199 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:16,320 is nice. If we get and none of those, I would be you 200 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,039 know, like I said, none of those, I would be like pissed 201 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,879 about, you know what I mean, Like I you know, getting blown 202 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:24,799 out. I suppose would be one thing. But a lot of those teams 203 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:28,240 that I mentioned are quality teams all above the Clippers and the standings. It'd 204 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:35,480 be understandable, Yes, it would saying it's a foregone conclusion. But yeah, 205 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:37,360 but I read I first saw it, I was like, I don't 206 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:41,440 know, fourteen and six. But now that we took us short look at 207 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:48,200 the schedule, doable, very doable. It's a real important next twenty games 208 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,600 because as good as they've been in this last eleven, still still eleven to 209 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,799 ten, but a lot of good habits being built. So shout out Joseph 210 00:14:56,879 --> 00:15:00,879 I. Ward for the confidence, love the optimism, love the optimus. 211 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:03,519 But anything else you want to talk about before we break and dive into this. 212 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,840 These two fantastic normal lineup names we have uh and and zoo stretch. 213 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:13,600 Uh no, no, let's hit him with an AD break. Let's hit 214 00:15:13,639 --> 00:15:16,200 him with an AD break. Someone on Twitter who did not like the last 215 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,600 episode said that they were like, I didn't like the last episode and the 216 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:22,519 ads were loud for the first time for me, and I was like, 217 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,919 this is why we put the disclaimer in. People make fun of the disclaimer, 218 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:30,559 but then one day you you made me thank us. You'll thank us 219 00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:33,080 when you don't get tonight. As from listening to ads to out all the 220 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,080 time for the hours that you listen to this podcast, Yeah, so if 221 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,360 that has been your case, go ahead and turn it down. We're gonna 222 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,519 be talking Norman Zoo. They're great stretches of players the Clippers have absolutely needed 223 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,200 coming up. We got ads coming up in three two. What all right? 224 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:54,080 Welcome back into Clips and Dip your favorite Clippers podcast. It's me Charles 225 00:15:54,159 --> 00:16:00,279 Mockler, or it's me William up the here with Charles Brethren. Adam Oslin 226 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:04,480 rip. We hope to see him soon. But we're talking about we're talking 227 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,080 about Zoo playing one of the best stretches of his career, as well as 228 00:16:08,159 --> 00:16:11,200 Norm in some of these closing lineups and just playing with the starters in general. 229 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,720 Got some great nicknames for that. Let's start with the Norm stuff, 230 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,960 Chuck, where are we at with Norm? What about Norm? What about 231 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:22,399 Norm? Uh? So we have to give a shout out to I saw 232 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,840 this on l a Clippers film Twitter first and then they divols that Shannon Moscoso. 233 00:16:27,919 --> 00:16:32,000 I believe, I hope I pronounced that right. Thought of this light 234 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,039 up, which is Norm Powell uh. And then Tarat excuse me out Terrence, 235 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,320 it's Norm Harden pg Kawai Zoo. So Norm of the Core four Norm 236 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:45,159 Core Norm Core is a great name for this light up, however good However, 237 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,960 Powell Rangers I'm also really on board with. So we know which one 238 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:59,519 out of Powell Rangers. Uh, but the this lineup has been incredible for 239 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:02,519 the last ten games. They've only gotten twenty seven minutes together. So it 240 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:06,359 is some small sample sized theater, but one hundred and twenty three point seven 241 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,079 offensive rating, eighty five defensive rating for a thirty eight point zero net rating. 242 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:17,920 It's been used in the short bursts. We've seen the spacing, even 243 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,039 when things were still getting figured out, When Harden was first on the team 244 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:23,039 and Norm was out there with the starters, it was like, oh shit, 245 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,720 okay, there's something's getting churned up here in a good way. This 246 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,880 to me feels like the closest thing we've seen to a Oh this is so 247 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,200 clearly a playoff lineup. This is going to do some damage of the playoffs 248 00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:41,839 in the two one three era. This is like the most Maybe it's because 249 00:17:42,039 --> 00:17:47,799 we were we wanted you know, wingstop so bad or something like that, 250 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,039 but we wanted to see some playoff ready lineups. This is a playoff ready 251 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:55,640 lineup. This is going to do some damage for the Clippers, it is, 252 00:17:55,759 --> 00:17:57,319 and I'm really excited to see We're gonna talk a little bit more about 253 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,319 him later, but I'm excited to see how his sort of adapts to this, 254 00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:03,960 because we know, the biggest thing with his tenure, while he's established 255 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:08,119 himself as a starter has been is he in those closing lineups. So I'm 256 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,480 hoping that, you know, with Harden on the floor with him, that 257 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:15,519 can increase his offense to a point where Tyloo feels that he provides enough value 258 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:19,359 on that end of the floor that his defense obviously is enough to carry everything 259 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:26,160 on the other side. But norm has just been so good and this is 260 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,160 the first season that we'll have, hopefully you know, knocking on all the 261 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,680 wood right now, fully healthy with him, which is something else. And 262 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:36,680 it's also this is just an aside and not to be a wet blanket on 263 00:18:36,759 --> 00:18:40,480 this whole parade, but like, at what point do we start to worry 264 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:47,039 about the Clippers only playing eight guys? I mean, like eight or nine? 265 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:49,720 You know, I could see nine once Tice for turns. I mean, 266 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:55,519 like it's still it is a tight rotation. Is a tight rotation, 267 00:18:56,039 --> 00:19:00,400 not that it isn't necessitated by the talent. But I mean I am just 268 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,759 broadly wondering at what point do we are we concerned about the longevity of that. 269 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,799 I well, I mean, you know me, I will be thinking 270 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:11,839 about March, so I'm concerned about it right now. No, I think 271 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:17,319 that is one hundred percent something to think about with this team, because it's 272 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,839 that there are it's a bit of an older team. There was some good 273 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,759 news. I don't know how much this helps, but Brandon Boston Jr. 274 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,920 Is healthy, which is good. He's playing tonight. Maybe he might get 275 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,559 someone. I don't know. You're not wrong. There needs to be some 276 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:36,440 spelling happening, and maybe they're just waiting to figure stuff out more. But 277 00:19:36,599 --> 00:19:41,440 I think that is a fair thing and worry about yet. But the other 278 00:19:41,319 --> 00:19:44,640 question that it begs, and sorry, then we can get back on track 279 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,920 with what we were actually talking about, positivity. The other question that it 280 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:52,799 begs is that, Okay, so what is this eight man rotation when one 281 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,680 of or both of Kawhi and Paul George Rout. We haven't had to had 282 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,200 to address that issue so far this season, Goby bro I don't see it 283 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,559 being something that doesn't have to be addressed at some point during the rest of 284 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,440 the season. You slack Kobe in right at the four, you put a 285 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:11,720 mirror at the three things. It's exactly the same. No, I I 286 00:20:12,839 --> 00:20:17,279 agree. I think these are things. If Adam were here, he would 287 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:19,759 have a really positive thing to say about the process and how they would get 288 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:22,920 that figured out. And let's just pretend I believe in it. I'm sorry 289 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,799 saying that. It's a question. You know, I'm asking the hard hitting 290 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:33,039 questions. All right, But let's get back to this wonderful death lineup that 291 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:40,640 we have here. Now I'm thinking about who's gonna play these minutes. But 292 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,680 back to the good stuff, man, Let's come back to the good stuffs. 293 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,559 Some more about the Powell Rangers, Uh, the power. It's just 294 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:53,400 it's good basketball, and I wish The thing that's tough is I don't Terrence 295 00:20:53,480 --> 00:21:00,000 made what two threes last game, which is fantastic given how things have gone 296 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:02,519 on. Yes, he was two for five, so we're still getting chops 297 00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:06,720 up. People are still giving him that space. This lineup is gonna be 298 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,559 I know this sounds weird. I think it'll be even better weirdly when Terrence 299 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,079 Man starts shooting well. Even though he's not part of this lineup because I 300 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:18,400 think when the starters, when he starts hitting these things, and then you 301 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:22,480 have the opposing team trying to play a little more catchup, and then you 302 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:26,480 bring Normanto this equation, then the Clippers are kind of then I think this 303 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:30,839 lineup is truly on stop like when this Yeah, putting this team out ahead 304 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,799 to kind of get more of a lead is gonna be cool to see. 305 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,559 I think give too much free endorsement to our buddy justin Russive. But he 306 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:44,680 also brought up a sat He episode. He crunched the numbers on Terrence's sort 307 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,240 of starts with the Clippers, and apparently this is a regular pattern where through 308 00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:52,960 about the first twenty games of the season he shoots like sub thirty percent. 309 00:21:53,000 --> 00:22:00,079 I believe it's around twenty twenty percent, and then the following sixty two games 310 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:06,240 he's right around forty percent. So that's you know, like that's where that 311 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,640 average is coming from. So hopefully this is like that. Hopefully this is 312 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,319 a real trend and a true thing that we can sort of depend on. 313 00:22:14,839 --> 00:22:19,119 I have kind of been wondering with Terrence, especially with some of the aggressiveness, 314 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:26,319 if there aren't still some growing pains with him in this lineup because contextually, 315 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,200 right we look at this Terrence Man was supposed to be in the starting 316 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,200 lineup in October, right, he was supposed to be in the starting lineup 317 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,640 in October. He had an ankle injury only thing that kept him out of 318 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,720 the starting lineup. Then they had to work him back in. Of course 319 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,680 this was pre hardened trade. And then they do that and he's still not 320 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:45,160 in the starting lineup, and then he later finds himself inserted. And all 321 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,119 I'm saying is that, like the man is forced to take a U turn, 322 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:52,440 like the guy drives in so many circles. I don't really know exactly 323 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,039 how he's supposed to, you know, have his coordinates right after only a 324 00:22:56,079 --> 00:23:00,119 few games under this new lineup with him in the starting lineup, but does 325 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,160 seem like he's getting it figured out. And as he does that, the 326 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,799 unit is just going to get even more space, Like I can't I mean, 327 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:10,559 unless you went even smaller, there's no way that you could possibly put 328 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,519 more space out on the floor for the Clippers. And I think defensively, 329 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,079 you know, if Zoo can continue this stretch of play and hopefully we don't 330 00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:21,359 see him with like sort of the accumulated slow down that he sometimes gets gets 331 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,039 a play. This is very I could see this very much as the death 332 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,559 line up very much. That's a great I yeah, the Terrence thing, 333 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,200 he had a quote recently where he was like, I kind of finally feel 334 00:23:32,319 --> 00:23:37,680 back to one hundred percent. So I definitely think there's something there the Zoo 335 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:41,720 stretch right now because what makes the slight up so nice. Part of it 336 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,680 is that the the front court of Norman Harden is it. You know, 337 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:51,960 obviously the back defensively back court excuse me, of Norman Harden isn't the best 338 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:56,279 defensively just with Norm out there. So having Zoo playing this good of defense 339 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,440 is really helping the slide up out. There's a stat floating around on Twitter 340 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:06,519 that Ivitza Zubots is number one in rim points saved per seventy five minutes in 341 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,359 the entire NBA, which is great. Uh. The other thing that is 342 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,319 nice. One thing, yeah, one thing that I think could be even 343 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:18,319 better with this is when the team gets a little bit better defensively on the 344 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:25,319 second effort, because I think sometimes we see Zoo with an insane defensive possession 345 00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:29,119 on the first action or like the first thing right around the rim, and 346 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,279 then he's obviously out of position, because that's what happens in the course of 347 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,400 defending someone you don't you know, you can't cover everything, and then we're 348 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,599 not seeing we're not seeing somebody else either snag the rebound or be there to 349 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,400 stop the second attempt. And I think once the team gets in sync enough 350 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,559 to get to that point, then you're talking about an even better defense. 351 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:52,039 And I think we were, what like, we're kissing the top five in 352 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,319 the last in the last stretch of games. I believe we're like I only 353 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,359 like six. There's something I don't have the number right in front of me. 354 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,559 I'll pull it up. But uh, you know, I think that 355 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,240 that gets even better whence everybody can kind of get on the same board. 356 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:08,000 And I think this trust coming from Tylou right having Zoo being closing forty two 357 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:14,799 minutes the other night, damn completely has to change how other players on the 358 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:17,400 court trust in him as well, you know what I mean. It's one 359 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:19,759 thing even if you play with a guy, like if you know that a 360 00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:23,000 coach doesn't trust him to be in closing lineups. You know, when things 361 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,400 get tight, how are you supposed to trust him? I don't know, 362 00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:30,519 Like I mean, that's just how I feel like from a coworker perspective, 363 00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:33,039 you know what I mean? This guy, this guy always drops the ball. 364 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,160 But hey, you and him are going to be on this project. 365 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,440 Big devil coming up, y'all got it, buddy. The Clippers are officially 366 00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:44,839 fifth and defensive rating of one hundred and ten point six. That's fantastic. 367 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:48,279 Uh so more than kissing it if you catch my drift for that fifth spot 368 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:55,559 defensive rating, Zoo's numbers making out with it. Zoo's numbers so far the 369 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,200 season with one eight point four defensive rating for the Clippers with Zubot on one 370 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,720 thirteen point two with him off one thirteen point two. Not you know, 371 00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:10,720 a horrendous defensive rating, but one, wait, is a lot better to 372 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:17,519 see elite. There's a thing opponents also have seen thirty you know, just 373 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,559 just right under thirty one percent of their total field goals attempts covet the rim 374 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:26,319 against the Clippers, which is the eighth fewest in the league, which is 375 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,119 great. Since the seventeenth however, that's down to twenty eight point eight percent, 376 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:34,960 which is top five when it comes to just preventing rim attempts in general. 377 00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:40,960 So it sounds like they're kissing the top five in this particular stat They 378 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,240 are kissing the top Is this a new phrase? I don't know if I 379 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,559 like kissing the top five as a phrase, but I think all fine. 380 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:55,759 I think it may forever unfortunately, but this is so good to see. 381 00:26:55,839 --> 00:27:00,440 We're not like team. The pick and roll defense for this team is peaking. 382 00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:06,039 It's just great to see if if teams aren't gonna feel good going into 383 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:10,279 the paint, like go ahead, shoot it up, like we have two 384 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,680 elite wing defenders who can defend you out on the paint too, Like the 385 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:18,799 work that Zoo's putting in down low. Paul George and Kui have had a 386 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,480 bigger defensive responsibility and we've seen them play really well on that end. Yeah, 387 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:26,519 but they're getting help, thankfully because Zoo's doing so much downlow too, 388 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:30,240 which is awesome. Like it's all it's starting to coalesce. It's starting to 389 00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:37,079 go up into the right right now for the Clippers defense, and it's good 390 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:40,319 to see. I hope we get more stuff just on how good this this 391 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,400 Clippers defense has been what more stuff like uiens or you want to see some 392 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,480 more numbers, more film breakdown for people who know more than I do. 393 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,599 That's all we all, it's all we ever hoped for. We need to 394 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:56,839 be trial for the show. But yeah, these two guys having this start 395 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,400 to the season, even with the the xcame losing streak and the you know, 396 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,960 one game over five hundred and whatever, these guys have been indispensable for 397 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:14,240 the Clippers. And I this is there's there's not a trade in my head 398 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,319 right now that I think I'm comfortable with with how the Clippers are trending right 399 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,960 now. Not to say that like this, you know, the way we're 400 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:29,079 playing as of December tenth, five seventeen PM, that I don't think one 401 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,200 will have. But if we keep trending like this, everyone's working really well 402 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:34,319 together. We're seeing guys understand their jobs, something you talk about a lot, 403 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,920 and it is an issue with this two and three team of like what 404 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:41,200 is our jobs? Like that was a big issue with Doc and things like 405 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:44,440 that. But I don't know if there's a trade right now that I would 406 00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:49,880 entertain, maybe to get some more time for a couple extra guys or something 407 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,920 like that. But I don't think. I don't Jeremy Grant, I'm the 408 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:59,480 cheap maybe the contracts that pushes tents out of a staring line up, though 409 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,920 I don't know it. And I think Terrence has got like I think they 410 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,480 probably want Terrence right. No, but is there a trade you can think 411 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:14,599 of? Like, isn't that good at donuts? It's that they're overrated. 412 00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:18,880 He's persona non grata anymore. Yeah, he's got to check in when he 413 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,720 with the Voodoo donut guy. Is there a trade you could see, like 414 00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:27,480 I want to see this play out more the slow starts rough, but there's 415 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:32,240 not a there's not an instant trade that's like there it is that that's what 416 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,799 makes us more of contenders. I don't think people know how I feel about 417 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:42,119 a Kousma trade. Yeah, I I guess just like some more veteran wing 418 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,319 death. But I don't know what you're PJ. Tucker, like, what 419 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:49,680 you're really getting that for, you know, like I can think of like 420 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,680 some higher tier guy names. I don't know. It's all kind of big 421 00:29:53,799 --> 00:30:00,599 swiggy. Yeah. I think you gotta wait until the deadline to do anything 422 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,559 like that. And for me. For me, another thing, and I've 423 00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:07,039 said this since he went out, is like it just depends on what the 424 00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:12,640 timeline is for Plumbley as well, because no Plumbley has changed has changed things 425 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,839 a little bit for me. And maybe that doesn't even mean a trade, 426 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,480 but it does mean we are going to need something else roster wise. I 427 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,720 think, in addition to Daniel Tice, you don't think it's Droyd Deadward. 428 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,839 You don't think it's hip Light left the league covered up to the clips. 429 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,119 How old is he? I don't know. I don't know. Let me 430 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,799 look, I did combat that. I don't think Duyd Deadman uh would have 431 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:40,920 joined the he's thirty four. I would have Bloyd the the G League Clippers 432 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,759 if he didn't have some ink late that he would play for the l A 433 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:49,400 Clippers, right, Yeah, I mean, let's you just say loves the 434 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,359 game. I like that, But yeah, I don't know. We'll talk 435 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,240 more trade stuff with Adams. He just wanted a free Jim, I just 436 00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:59,960 want to run man, want a couple of T shirts, Jersey want to 437 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,039 Uh, We'll talk more with Adam. I think Adam would probably be on 438 00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:08,720 the page of no trade right now either, or he'd take the gun out 439 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:12,960 and completely yell about recent trade. Or but yeah, we gotta keep everybody. 440 00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:18,279 We got to keep everybody right now, things are going too well despite 441 00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:21,480 being eleven and ten. Anything else, any other random players you want to 442 00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:26,839 give a shout out to you, Brandon Boston Junior just had a nasty poster. 443 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,920 Dunks returned to the G League, which is cool. Oh, that's 444 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,160 awesome. I don't know if we've talked about this yet on the show, 445 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,599 but I want to give a shout out to Bones. He has not been 446 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,079 playing. Yeah, he has not been playing, and I okay, so 447 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:45,640 I know that some of his shot selection was an issue in Denver. I 448 00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:51,039 don't know if there was ever like a locker room or personality issue, and 449 00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,319 that's like sort of what motivated the trade. But the guy has been a 450 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,880 complete pro, even in the wake of being taken completely out of the rotation 451 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,640 and publicly being stated that he is really no longer in the rotation right one 452 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,359 of the most active guys on the bench. He always seems really engaged with 453 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,680 the games. He's inner like, he's interacting and talking with his teammates all 454 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,799 the time. I know that he's not playing and I know that, you 455 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,440 know, with the hard and trade, where he stands at all in this 456 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,000 rotation is constantly going to be influx, if not nonexistent, But damn it, 457 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,160 I'm I'm just happy with, at least from appearances wise, how it 458 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,640 seems he's been handling this whole thing like a true professional, and it gives 459 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,799 me a lot of hope for what he can look like when he is rightfully. 460 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,400 I think rightfully so return to this lineup. It's just a little bit 461 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,519 weird with the players that we currently have on contract, but man, bones 462 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720 love you can't wait to see you back on the court, and just love 463 00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:50,880 that you still seem to be given it your all, even though you know 464 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,960 you're kind of you're not in the best of the situations. Yes, totally, 465 00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:58,039 tuk. I second everything you just said. Shout up. My norm 466 00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,240 stand account is tweeting right now. Why did we sign here? Why did 467 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:07,279 God? Why didn't we Vito this train? Dude, I texted the group 468 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,599 chat. I don't think we'll we'll fully go into it, but like I 469 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,000 don't know if we've talked about it early on the show, we've alluded to 470 00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:19,599 it a little bit. When Carl was on these RUSS stands are God damn 471 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,279 dude, Like what are we doing this for? Like I just love that 472 00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:27,880 the accounts talk about like talk about it, like they're involved in the player 473 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,119 interactions, like this isn't what we signed up for when we came here, 474 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,680 Like what the fuck are you dying about? Dude? When we got here? 475 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,519 What we got here? I expected a lot of things. People are 476 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,359 just photo shopping. And here's the thing too, here's I guess we are 477 00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,720 gonna talk about a little bit. Here's my thing. Russell Westbrook Fayenal basketball 478 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:53,839 player, Hall of Fame basketball player, like a man who has done questionable 479 00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:59,640 yes, yes, almost everything you can do at the professional level in the 480 00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:09,079 NBA. RUSS Westbrook is no playing tournament neither sure very true like these this 481 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:15,639 mentality is so weird. They're just they're just posting photoshops of him on every 482 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,639 team jersey and they're just like, what if he went here? What if 483 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,159 he went to the Suns? What if he went here? What if he 484 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,920 went here? Like get over it, help him get a ring. He's 485 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,559 still playing, He's still playing. He's still playing there like six, we 486 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,840 didn't come here and his field goal percentage like his field goal percentages up, 487 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,559 his point per games like his points per gamer up. He's settling into this 488 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,199 role as I mean, I think the team would have known that he was 489 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,400 able to do that, and I'm sure there were conversations before he signed here 490 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,960 in the summer, like, hey, we have some inkling that we might 491 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,280 be able to get another guy sacrifice that he I'm gonna random call one sec 492 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,800 just damp Will might be being robbed right now over the phone. That's terrifying 493 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,079 chaos here at Clips and Dip. Now, I guess I'm talking to no 494 00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:08,440 one right now. If you're watching this over on YouTube dot com Slash at 495 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,639 Clippers podcast, thank you for watching me as kind of vamp right now while 496 00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:19,119 Will take some mysterious call. We're talking Russell Westbrook stands who don't give a 497 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,639 shit about the Clippers. That's as I think what annoys me the most is 498 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:29,079 that they don't care about the Clippers, which is kind of the whole point. 499 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,559 And you should care about the Clippers because that's the team that Russell Westbrook 500 00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:35,559 is on. So if the Clippers are playing well, that means that Russell 501 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,559 Westbrook has a better chance at a ring and then maybe you can go outside 502 00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:45,320 or do whatever you're gonna do. Will is back. Did you give did 503 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,760 you give them your social did? What do they need? Is it a 504 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:53,079 long lost brother? No? I I thought that it was going to be 505 00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:58,559 something important. It wasn't. What was it? It was just about some 506 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,719 medications I have to pick. Well, there you go, shout out the 507 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,840 Hey, another underrated aspect of this Clippers team, the pharmacists. Let's get 508 00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,360 take anything you want to say about Russ Stands. I basically just said that 509 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,440 they're stupid and I don't like the rust Stands. I don't care about the 510 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,199 Clippers who are like and like, let's make the Clippers worse so Russ can 511 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:22,280 get more minutes. Yeah, I don't know, man, man, maybe 512 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,519 just ease up. You know. To break fandom doesn't always have to be 513 00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:30,719 insanity, you know. And I say that as someone who's fandom borders on 514 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,400 insanity. But you know what, I try to keep it in check, 515 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,800 and I try to not talk about the team as though I'm a part of 516 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,199 it or a player, as if you because I'm because I'm not. Hey, 517 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,639 a lot of interest, a lot of interest, but yet to be 518 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,480 part of the team. I did put out they are the Clippers are hiring 519 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:57,800 a like director of AI and Emerging technologies. Mum, that's why I had 520 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,960 it of the ring for that. Yeah, I'll talk to my head and 521 00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:05,079 I think it's I think it's like two hundred and twenty a year. Just 522 00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:09,239 what if we made the basketball is invisible? It seems like it would help 523 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,920 us. You know, other team throws a pass balls invisible, something to 524 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:17,519 it, something to it? All right, coming up, we're gonna be 525 00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:22,440 talking the kind of weird back to back that's happening on Monday and Tuesday, 526 00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:27,159 and then oh yeah, we have a fun end of year thing. We're 527 00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:29,079 gonna do what should be a good time. We got ads coming up. 528 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,880 Go ahead and turn it down if they've been too loud for you. Ads 529 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,840 coming up the backpack review with three two one. All right, we are 530 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:42,920 back talking the Clippers back back to back. We are back talking Clippers back 531 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,039 to back, Blazers tomorrow Kings on Tuesday, Will which one of these are 532 00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:52,599 you more concerned about? What do you mean this serious question about? At 533 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:57,760 all? Did it take you to come up with this question? So Mason 534 00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:02,079 and Musa are out bar overs Portland, LUSA has some hip sort of which 535 00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:07,280 sucks. Uh, Brandon Bustin junior available? Do we think everyone else plays 536 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,960 them both of these games? Do they kawhi pg keep this thing going? 537 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,719 They're not hurt. If the quote was if they're not hurt, they're gonna 538 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:21,840 play, then I guess they continue it. I guess they could take a 539 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:28,480 break. Look what I want to see is I want to see an early 540 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,559 lead and great performance from Kahi Paul George in this Portland game. And then 541 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:37,559 I want to see the bench do what we do as well as we know 542 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,320 they can do. Yeah, and and maintain and hopefully even build upon a 543 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,400 lead, and we get some sort of they get the appearance for the game. 544 00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:51,599 But I'm I'm hoping that and this is my hope on all of these 545 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,880 games against your Portland's or your Spurs, but that we don't see a lot 546 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,400 of them in the second half. That's on a back on like on a 547 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,159 back to back. I think if you can keep the minutes low, I 548 00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,719 think it's doable. I think it's doable. Yeah, yeah, especially so 549 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:15,920 Portland. DeAndre Ayton was out verse the MAVs with knee soreness. He's questionable 550 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,119 Brogden is questionable with a knee issue. Jeremy Grant is out because he's still 551 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:24,199 in concussion protocol. I didn't see where he got a concussion, but yikes, 552 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,920 that shit's gotta hurt having had a concussion, not from professional basketball, 553 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,599 it really hurt. But so the Blazers are eleventh in defensive rating, which 554 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,159 kind of blew my mind when I saw that. But with DeAndre Ayton not 555 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,360 there, excuse me. With Jeremy Grant out eight and not one hundred percent, 556 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:50,320 Brognon not one hundred percent, I'm leaving towards your quasi prediction. I 557 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,119 think we might see some great first half performances from Quie and Peg and then 558 00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:59,400 hopefully we see like Brandon Boston Junior gets back for a little bit, or 559 00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:05,320 like Mirror gets some road or something like that. The King's Game. That's 560 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,480 gonna be a bud I want to see. I want to see, uh, 561 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:16,639 bones Brandon Terrence if the if the Clippers are up forty, Terrence will 562 00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:22,119 be in. Uh so you said sorry, it was it was bones Brandon 563 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:30,440 Terrence. Kobe Zoo oh oh man, I don't know that sure that that 564 00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:36,119 is? That's the A five wag you that is. That is certainly a 565 00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:40,679 lineup for Clippers basketball. Kobe Brown looking pretty good at that last little stint. 566 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,679 He's looking pretty good. They called me crazy, Actually, no one 567 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,559 really called me that crazy. I think. Uh. Second game is against 568 00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:54,320 the Kings. We beat them after that that horrible Nuggets loss, which is 569 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,880 funny that game, that Nuggets loss was so bad we somehow didn't even let 570 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,840 the game hype us up. We're getting the Kings. They were on the 571 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,760 second night of a back to back, which I believe we're getting them again 572 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,880 on the second night of a backpack. Yeah, but it's invalidated if we're 573 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,079 also on the second nud of a back to back. No advantage there, 574 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,760 that's true, there's the advantus there. I hate the NBA schedule. So 575 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,920 last time we played, we won points in the paid sixty to forty eight, 576 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,679 which is great, But we also only turned the ball over four times, 577 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:30,440 which that has to be the fewest amount of time so far this season. 578 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,239 I hope we can continue that. And zoo On Simonis was really nice. 579 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,559 Zoo held them to one of nine shooting, and simonas could not stop 580 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:43,239 Abaza Zubots. So I think we might see some of that not a rim 581 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,400 protector. I think we see some of that early lead on Zoo stuff, 582 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,039 a little bit if quiet PG if one of them for some reason doesn't have 583 00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:53,000 it going. Yeah, when you're not Claus who will be your friend? 584 00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:57,400 He'll help you carry on, all right, I'll see you later. I 585 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,039 don't even know what that is in reference to what is lean on me? 586 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:07,000 Oh right, classic Surprised people don't make more jokes based on that song. 587 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:14,800 Oh. Harrison Barnes also was on Kawhi last game that did not go well 588 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,119 for the Kings, So I hope there's more of that and this King. 589 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,719 We know the starters, or we've seen the starters be very good. They 590 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,280 really only had a little bit of a hiccup just recently. So the Kings 591 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,840 are gonna be looking for a little bit of revenge from this one. John 592 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:37,280 Jared Fox had forty and they lost last time. So there's gonna be a 593 00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,760 there's gonna be the legs I think are weirdly gonna be the most important thing 594 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:47,679 of this game, depending how these this King's team comes firing out and not 595 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,599 playing yeah and not playing James Hard and Russell Westbrook together, if we do 596 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,599 that we'll probably lose the game. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, we 597 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,360 need to stop tie still does it sometimes and it makes no damn sense. 598 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:05,199 Maybe this is the time. Maybe this time it works. Are you seeing 599 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,800 two wins out of this? Are we sweeping this back to back? Does 600 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,639 the wind streak go to five? I bet it goes to four. I 601 00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:22,800 don't know if the Clippers go to and oh on these I feel like the 602 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,320 stink from Denver is pretty near gone. Stay from Denver's God would feel good 603 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,880 going unto the game against the Warriors, which they have three and this is 604 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,519 the first two of a three and four nights, which is a little tough. 605 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,119 So you're you're saying, do you think it's Do you think they get 606 00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:43,159 these two wins? Yeah? I think they got it? Hell yeah, 607 00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,639 all right there we go probably gonna get it. Play they gotta go what 608 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:52,079 sixteen and five, sixteen and four, fourteen and six, fourteen and six? 609 00:43:52,440 --> 00:44:00,199 Right right right? They doable, very doable. We're gonna have cap 610 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,440 so that you're just gonna talk about what happened at that game on Clippers Talk. 611 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,360 Adam's job that pays him money, so he takes this one off, 612 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:15,199 which makes sense. We have so bad about it. We do have a 613 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,519 fun thing to talk about. We've been talking about this give no quarter thing, 614 00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,760 uh, where we're gonna like take a quarter and we're all gonna donate 615 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,440 it to ourselves. Each one of us is gonna donate a quarter. Yeah, 616 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,400 every quarter the Clippers lose, yes, which we're up to like eight 617 00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:37,719 twenty five now each So with the holidays it's me I know, but we're 618 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,719 gonna just donate all of it to a charity at the end of the season 619 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,920 on behalf of clips and dips. So if you would like to suggest a 620 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,960 charity for us to donate this too, go ahead and add us at Clippers 621 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,639 Pod real answers only. I guess I'm just gonna caveat that. We're not 622 00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:57,760 gonna give to your venmo. We're not gonna give you your PayPal. Yeah, 623 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,440 we don't support the Dragon Fund. Come on, be real, we 624 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,800 will not support the Dragon fun. We're not going to donate anything to the 625 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:12,039 Ligmacorp. Okay, but yeah, we're gonna donate. We did Path last 626 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:15,119 year. When we we used to do stuff with locked own, we would 627 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:19,760 donate the Path, which is a wonderful organization here in l A will anything 628 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,599 else now wrong? Ubard Center take our money. I haven't. I don't 629 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:27,320 even know why I'm still giving them checks. My thetns are off the charts. 630 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,840 What's dangerously low? Wait is low? Thetings bad or as high? 631 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:36,920 Low is bad? Low is bad? I think so good. I don't 632 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,159 know, No, Thetans are bad. All right, We're gonna get into 633 00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:45,239 all of this on Scientology and Dip, which is our other podcast that we 634 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:53,599 do. Uh will anything you want to send these dedicated, wonderful uh good 635 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,360 Clippers fans? Uh? You know all this this holiday evening? Yeah, 636 00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:02,840 als will start a poll which is better norm core lineup for the Powell Rangers. 637 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,800 Other than that, I mean, look, the Clippers are looking a 638 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,760 lot better. I know, last time we did a full episode, things 639 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,119 were stay, things were still a little down despite a winning Denver. I 640 00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:17,519 think this team is you know, this team, I think deservedly so is 641 00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:22,280 approved team right, and so far, at least in this last stretch of 642 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,199 play, they are in fact proving that they are proving that they are contenders. 643 00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:30,239 Let's just hope that that continues. I see no reason why it can't, 644 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,039 you know, giving health and the way that things are starting to work 645 00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:38,639 out from both an on core perspective from the rotation perspective, and yeah, 646 00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:42,280 let's let's hope that this. In these next couple of games, we see 647 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,079 the offense continue to evolve, we see less of the ball sticking ISO hero 648 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:52,599 ball stuff, and this team continues to look more more congealed. Yes, 649 00:46:52,760 --> 00:47:00,440 that's the word I'm looking for, not congealed. Yeah, yeah, cozy. 650 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,360 Any any C word you want to use for being really close together and 651 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,679 comfortable. I guess kissing. Yeah there. We hope they're kissing the top 652 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,000 five soon. If they go fourteen and six, they'll be kissing the top 653 00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:19,360 five. I hate that. So we're gonna do a tripod. Adam is 654 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,639 going to be better at some point. He had fun the other day. 655 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,800 We hope that's okay for him. I had a bunch of ice cream today. 656 00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:34,320 Probably we're gonna do a full trypod. Hopefully sometime this week. We'll 657 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,079 have the double dips for you tomorrow and Tuesday. Reviews. Help us out. 658 00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,800 Hit us up with a review of O on iTunes, and yeah, 659 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,199 I don't think subscribe to us on YouTube. Leave it, give us a 660 00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:46,679 little thumbs up, maybe a little comment, let us know that you're there, 661 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,800 Let's know what you want to let us know what you want to see 662 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,920 more of. Let us let us know when when when you have some availability 663 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,119 and we can stream all stream together. Let us know your availability. Send 664 00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,360 us to your the send us the address of your employer, and let us 665 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,840 know what dates you have you are working and what time and we don't we'll 666 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,320 try to stream around that and we know what they don't like, which, 667 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,599 yeah, we know what they don't like. Anyway, here's everyone have a 668 00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:17,239 wonderful evening. Uh, the clippers are, they're doing the right things. 669 00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:22,280 We'll be back with you soon. At as always, let's go clips