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If your Kindle have the Kindle just search for Great 18 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.039 Detectors of Old Time Radio and the Kindle Store. Well, now it's time 19 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:16.360 for today's episode of Dragnet. The original air date June the eighth of nineteen 20 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:29.960 fifty and the Tunnel is the big smart guy. The story you're about to 21 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:34.520 hear is true, only the names have been changed to protect the innocent. 22 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:49.400 Dragnet. You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned to homicide detail. A woman 23 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.919 has been shot to death. The apparent motive robbery. The killer is still 24 00:02:53.960 --> 00:03:08.280 at large. Your job find him. Dragnet the documented drama of an actual 25 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:13.639 crime. For the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police 26 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.240 Department, you will travel step by step on the side of the law through 27 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:22.520 an actual case transcribed from official police files, from beginning to end, from 28 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:25.800 crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force in action. 29 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:34.439 It was Friday, March sixteenth, was damp in Los Angeles. We're working 30 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:38.159 the night watch out a homicide. My partner's Ben Romero, the boss's Thad 31 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.560 Brown, Cheap of Detectives. My name is Friday. It was eleven forty 32 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:47.319 five pm when we got to where we'd parked our car second in May. 33 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:52.000 A couple of drops on the windshiel, yeah, ohe it holds off. 34 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.520 I was thinking of going up to see the Cubs and Bars play an exhibition 35 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:58.840 game tomorrow. I guess maybe now a long you might be lucky. What's 36 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:05.080 within a man's sake to get the video? It's a slow knife. Yeah, 37 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:11.400 might not beat him. My night March seventeenth in it oh yeah, 38 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:19.120 sixteen through a color station all units. He was connedy of one O two 39 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:26.360 South Virgil two eleven and shooting Coude three had one All units Virgil two eleven 40 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:36.240 and Shooting CO three Unit thirteen. Happy Saint Patrick's Day, eleven fifty eight 41 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:41.120 pm. We arrived at one O two South Virgin the bottom of hotel four 42 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:45.399 story building. Sergeant Shimer medicine the lobby and informed us if the shooting took 43 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:48.199 place at eleven forty pm in room four thirty two, occupied by mister and 44 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:53.839 Missus Theodore V. Benham. Missus Benham was the victim. We went up 45 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:57.279 to the fourth floor where Officer McCready was stationed outside the room. An he 46 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:00.959 wasn'ness is only Benham says it was a thief. Are you talking to people 47 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.439 on the spot? And then I'm sorry anything? They're all in their rooms. 48 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.360 Any other way out of here? A stairway in the rearly, it's 49 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:11.600 the roof. I took a look. Nothing up there. Where's benim across 50 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:15.560 the hall line down? Coxes with him? Okay's look at the body. 51 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:21.319 We went into the room, a dreary place with a single light hanging from 52 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:26.199 the center of the ceiling. The carpet was faded and worn in spots. 53 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.360 On the north side where a closet in the bathroom. Against the east wall 54 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:32.639 was a dresser. Across the room was a double bed, and at the 55 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:35.879 foot of the bed window looking out over the roofs of adjoining buildings and the 56 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:40.920 marque of a movie house down the street. A steamer trunk was in the 57 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:45.120 corner, and a straight backed chair was next to the door. The mirror 58 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:47.959 of the dresser was smashed, and on the dresser at Gideon Bible on the 59 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:51.839 bed was the body of a woman's sprawled face down. There were several splotches 60 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:56.319 of blood on her coat. From the chair was a thirty two twenty Revolver, 61 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:59.560 which McReady said belonged to Benham, the husband of the murdered woman. 62 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:01.759 We asked McCready to put in a call to the crime lab and we went 63 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:06.040 across the hall to question Benham. This is an awful shock. I'm not 64 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:11.839 feeling well. I'm under doctor's care, hemophilia. Awful shock. Sit down, 65 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:17.160 please, yeah, I don't know what it'll do to me. I 66 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:20.720 should be in the sanitarium right now. Most thing you're taking care of Lincoln 67 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:25.079 Sanitarium and Eagle Rock. Could you tell us what happened tonight? What? 68 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:30.360 Yes, we my wife and I went out to the Sycamore Cafe over in 69 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:34.079 Alvarado. What time was that, Oh about nine point thirty, had a 70 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.959 couple of drinks and something to eat, and listened to a piano player. 71 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:41.279 Then came home. I unlocked the door and Elizabeth when in first, went 72 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:44.279 over to the dresser. I just walked over to her when a man stepped 73 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.480 out of the closet in the back of us. He had a gun. 74 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.920 Can you describe him? I don't know, I don't know. Did you 75 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:53.480 see his face? No? He had a blue bandann over his face, 76 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.920 and he had a cap on a blue and white check. Did you notice 77 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:00.600 his clothes? No, no, I didn't anything else. He seemed very 78 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:04.480 nervous and he wasn't holding the gun still. My wife was opening a person. 79 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.639 I said, well, I haven't got very much, but I'll give 80 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:11.199 you what we had, and he fired and hit Elizabeth. I put my 81 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.319 gun from my overcoat and started shooting. Are you in the habit of getting 82 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:17.279 a gun? No? No, no, I'd noticed suspicious looking men followed 83 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.959 me late least I bought one. Is this the gun here? Yes? 84 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:26.120 And then what happened? Well, if I had all the bullets, I 85 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:29.800 don't know how I missed the room small He kept moving around all the time, 86 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:33.319 but I guess I did miss. Then he ran out of the room. 87 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:36.680 How old would you say? This? Man? Oh, Sorr, 88 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:41.240 I haven't the fast idea. I'll see you a minute, sergeant. Sure, 89 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.079 we'll be back, mister Benham, this has been an awful shock to 90 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:50.319 me. In her eyes, wife fell but creed. He told us that 91 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:55.319 Sergeant Shimmer had found a woman in the Nevada hotel next door who might know 92 00:07:55.439 --> 00:08:00.000 something. When next door in question missus Caroline Cromwell, resident of the hotel. 93 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:03.879 She occupied room four fifteen on the top floor. She told us that 94 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:05.920 about twenty seconds after she heard the shots, she looked out the door of 95 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.480 her room and saw a man come down the back stairs, which leads to 96 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:13.560 the roof of the hotel, and entered room four oh two. She'd seen 97 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:18.480 the man several times and was positive of her identification. Sergeant Shimer said the 98 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:22.319 man was registered as Jack Morrison, who went to room four oh two. 99 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:35.360 Right again, what's that, police officer? What do you want? I'd 100 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.159 like to ask a couple of questions. I was going to bed. We'd 101 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:43.399 like to talk to you. Won't take very long, all right? What 102 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:48.039 do you want to know? How long you've been in your room? About 103 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:52.720 ten minutes? W Where were you to the movie? Which one right down 104 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.720 the street? Why are you asking me all these questions? You've been drinking? 105 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:00.519 Hello? Not much? Man? If we look right a little, 106 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.120 I was out all the time. I didn't know nothing about a shooting. 107 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.240 And you won't mind. If we're looking around, you won't find nothing here. 108 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:16.720 He's all the clothes you've got. Yeah, it's your coat. Yeah, 109 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.840 yeah, you're wearing this tonight? Were you no, it's only coat 110 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.039 in the closet. What'd you do with the coat you were wearing? Guess 111 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:31.480 I was wearing that one. Just spill it? What the bottle of whiskey 112 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.879 it broke? How I know? You got a hole here in the sleeve. 113 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.440 What do you do with a broken bottle? Through the way where? 114 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.159 I don't know? On the street, yo, I thought of something. 115 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:50.159 Shirt stuck down between the wall and the back then looks like blood on it? 116 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:58.480 Is this yours? Where's the shirt you wore tonight? Take off your 117 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.559 pajama top? Why take it off? All right? But I didn't have 118 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:11.679 nothing to do without shooting next door? What happened here? Guy shot at 119 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:16.519 me? Who? I don't know. I bought a bottom, had a 120 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.440 couple of drinks, and went to the movie for a little while away from 121 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.840 the bed place. I came out of the movie because I was getting dizzy, 122 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.639 and I went up on the roof here to get some There. While 123 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.240 I was standing there, guy ran across the roof and shot at me. 124 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.720 What looked like I don't know. He came from the roof of the hotel 125 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.480 next door and ran into this place. How big was he? It was 126 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:41.919 dark. I couldn't see. What'd you do? Well? After I was 127 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.120 sure he was gone, I came down. I was gonna have my arm 128 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:52.720 fixed in the morning. Let her get your clothes on. Why you got 129 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:54.679 a pretty bad arm. You better have it fixed up. We'll take you 130 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.720 to George Street Receiving Hospital. It's all right. I don't have to go 131 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:05.200 there anything. Ben No, you got king shit? No ant better wear 132 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:09.159 your pajama top. Then, oh, here's something. What'd you say? 133 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.440 Your name is Jack Marts. Here's a card I found the close. It 134 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:20.679 says Tommy Kane report for work Joe's Cafe at lock March First. Who's Tommy 135 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:30.320 Kane? That's me? Where you're from? Elgin, Illinois? Why'd you 136 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:35.720 leave Elgin? No work? I've been bumming around you. Ever been arrested? 137 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.799 I was picked up in a vague charge. Mon here. Yeah, 138 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.879 I don't know why you guys are bothering with me. When somebody gets shot, 139 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:50.840 we bother. We took King to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, where they 140 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.320 found that a muscle in his upper right arm had been severed and the right 141 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.000 side of his chest was bruised. Before taking him to ward, thirteen hundred 142 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.559 General Hospital for free of the treatment. We took him back to the roof 143 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:07.840 of the Nevada Hotel. He's still trying to rain. Yeah. Well, 144 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.159 where were you standing when he got shot at? King? Right over there? 145 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:15.639 I was leaning against the bricks. And where'd the man come from? 146 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.200 Out of that door in the other roof, the roof of the Bartlet Hotel. 147 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.120 Yeah? Was he running when he shot at you? Yeah? Yeah, 148 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.679 he was? Where'd you run? Right across here where we are? 149 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:30.600 And then he went through this door here into the Nevada Hotel. Do you 150 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.360 notice anything unusual about him? Why? His face was covered with a handkerchief 151 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.559 and he wore a checked cat But you said before it was too dark. 152 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:39.240 Well, I could see that. I mean you know, I could see 153 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:43.120 that. I couldn't see his face. And you were standing over there with 154 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:54.600 the fairly yeah about yeah about here? Yeah, that's it. M all 155 00:12:54.679 --> 00:13:01.639 right, let's get over the roof of the Bartle a little high. Can 156 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:13.679 I help you over? Come? On? Ben? Have you ever been 157 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:20.799 in this hotel before? King? No? Everything all right with grany? 158 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.000 Yeah, crime labs here checking the murder room. Bet him awake? I 159 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:33.440 think so, mister Benham. Yes, man, if we come in course, 160 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:39.279 Now have you ever seen this man before? Let me see? Can 161 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.919 you stand over there in the light? They are as I'm as good as 162 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:48.720 they used to be. Move over there. How's that that's better? Just 163 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:54.240 the man who shot your wife? No, that's not the man. We 164 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:58.679 left instructions for another car to take Theodore Benham to Lincoln Sanitarium. An Eagle 165 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:05.399 Rhoy we took Caine toward thirteen hundred General Hospital. Two forty two am we 166 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:09.159 arrived back at the Bartlett Hotel, where police chemist Ray Pinker had finished his 167 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.159 examination. Three slugs thirty eight caliber and five slugs thirty two to twenty were 168 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.120 found in the mattress in the walls, all on the same side of the 169 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.120 room. On the floor of the room we found a piece of white cloth 170 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:24.080 and some brown threads. Ray Pinker returned to the crime lab while Ben and 171 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.440 I made in search of both hotels, the incinerators, the alley in all 172 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.440 likely places for the missing thirty eight was not found. Three forty eight am. 173 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.000 Ben went to the record bureau to check on any possible criminal record Kane 174 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.080 might have had. I went to the crime lab to see what Ray pinker 175 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:45.559 had found nothing on in this one that's been a clean miss, and nothing 176 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:50.120 on these four thirty two twenties. Where'd you find those? The thirty eight 177 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:54.320 out of the window frame thirty two twenties were in the south and east walls. 178 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.480 How about the others here? Well, in these two thirty eight slugs, 179 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.840 I found my minute portions of thread. They compare with the dress and 180 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:05.399 coat. Want of the deceis? Ye bet? I checked Kane's record, 181 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:09.080 He told the true nothing more than a bag jar. Huh. I was 182 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.000 just gonna those threads on two of the thirty eight slugs and on one of 183 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.679 the thirty two twenties, same time threads and the same kind of thirty two 184 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.840 twenty. That's a good venom yure. Yeah, did you check the cloth 185 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.159 yet? Well, right now, venom must have been shooting off a while. 186 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:28.799 Where'd you find that thirty two twenty slug? Right the floor under the 187 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:35.960 bed hasn't done any of the other thirty two twenties. Yeah, this piece 188 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.159 of cloth matches the shirt about the coat and those threads got only a couple 189 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:48.440 of threads that might match. Let me have a coat? Maybe right better 190 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:50.639 have been him? Take another look at Cane. Huh yeah, I guess 191 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:52.159 so. I could give you a cup of coffee, how about you as 192 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:58.759 soon as we get finished. How about it? Right? You gotta make 193 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:06.320 it? Yeah, I match now, that's it. Huh oh. One 194 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.759 more thing? Yeah, fresh stains on the carpet that room? What kind 195 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:17.320 whisky? March eighteenth, we picked up Benham at Lincoln Sanitarium and drove him 196 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.960 to the General Hospital. Three times. He asked us to stop someplace so 197 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:22.759 he could have a drink. We told him to have to wait. We 198 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:29.759 arrived at Ward thirteen hundred and one, and Caine was brought out. Take 199 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.240 a good look, mister Benham. No that isn't the man, I'm sure 200 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.320 of it. Kane. Tie this handkerchief over your face. No, this 201 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:42.639 way, that's right. I'll put on this cap Caine. I'll stand over 202 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:52.080 there, please a little further. That's good, all right, mister ben 203 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:56.120 You know his eyes and ford look a little familiar. But I don't know. 204 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.559 All my nerves are all shot. I can't be positive. I'm a 205 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:06.599 sick man, all right, King, I wish I could help you. 206 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:11.880 Boys. Come along, please, you don't have to take me back to 207 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:14.920 the sanatory, and just take me to a street car. I'll make it 208 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:18.400 all right. Well, yeah, did I see you a minute? Sure? 209 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.799 Yeah. Did you notice anything when you first brought Cane out of the 210 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:29.960 ward? No, you must have been closing the door. Yeah, I 211 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:44.960 was that man Venom. He winked at him. You are listening to drag 212 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:55.680 Net the case history of a police investigation. We took Venom back to his 213 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:59.200 sanitarium. On the way, he asked if he could be excused from testifying 214 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:02.440 at the ind question preliminary hearing. We told him it couldn't be done. 215 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.480 Seven pm, Ben and I returned to the General Hospital and took Keen into 216 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:10.640 a small room adjoining the prison ward. After three hours of interrogation, he 217 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:17.920 stuck to his story. Cigarette came, thanks, he's all right, hurt's 218 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:25.000 little. Now when you guys going home, when we get a straight story. 219 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:26.480 I've been telling you all. I know. Yeah, you've been telling 220 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:30.240 it's the same story for two days. But it doesn't hold water. What 221 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:32.200 do you mean, how do you account for the fact that parts of your 222 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:34.079 clothing were found in that room? I told you before. You must have 223 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.039 made a mistake. No, no, it's no mistake. Mister Benham's starting 224 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:41.039 to think you recognized? Why do you wink at you? He didn't wink 225 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:44.599 at me. We got somebody here who saw him, and he seems to 226 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.160 think whoever did the shooting didn't take the gun. When we drove him back 227 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:49.720 to Santa Charami, he asked us if we found it yet, and thinks 228 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:55.319 we will. How long has Benham lived in LA? A long time? 229 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.240 How long? Why do you want to know how long he's lived? Here? 230 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:02.599 Is a dead woman? Really his wife? Well? Certainly she's his 231 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.200 wife? What where's he been since the shooting in the sanitarium? An eagle 232 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.119 rock? What's the matter with him? Nemophilia? You know what that is? 233 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:14.680 No? You sure that was his wife? Positive? She wasn't a 234 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:17.920 stool pigeon? Stool pigeon? Where'd you get that? At you? You 235 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:21.359 guys never saw her before? Never? You never heard of her? Kane? 236 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:26.759 What's eating you? Did you check on her? We always do, 237 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.799 don't make mistakes on anything like that. Do you look? She was a 238 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:33.279 pretty nice woman from all we could find out, happily emerged for thirty years. 239 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:38.960 Something's wrong? What Kane? What's wrong? Yeah? What beden him? 240 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:41.880 Say about? We told you? He says, you look a little 241 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:44.680 bit like the man. Do you say anything else? He winked at you, 242 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.039 Cane. Why she wasn't a bad looking woman, wasn't she? Kane? 243 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:56.440 All right now, how about it? You guys swear that was his 244 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.799 wife? Yeah, okay, I'll tell you where the thirty eight is. 245 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.960 Where a mattress on the roof of the Nevada Hotel. Ven Him cut a 246 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:06.400 hole in it that day. He told me to hide the gun there after 247 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:08.480 shooting. All right, let's have a look. I don't want anybody to 248 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:12.079 know I'm telling you of this. Why. Venam's a real smart guy. 249 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.160 He's got a gang. He's in on it as much as I am. 250 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:19.319 Yeah, he double crossed me. He tried to kill me. I'm going 251 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:26.920 to jail. He's going with me, maybe he will. Caine told us 252 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.079 that he had known Benham for about two months. During that time, Benham 253 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:32.839 helped him along by giving him a couple of dollars every once in a while. 254 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:36.599 On March eleventh, Benham got Cain a room in the Nevada Hotel and 255 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:40.359 gave him twenty dollars to buy a gun, which Cain did. On March 256 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:42.960 fifteenth, he gave Kan a blue bandanna and a checkered cap. On March 257 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:47.440 sixteenth, he told Kane that he'd been sent by a gang in Chicago to 258 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:49.880 kill a woman who was a stool pigeon. He promised Kan one hundred dollars 259 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:53.640 for his help. Early that evening, Benham told Kane how to enter their 260 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.119 room and where to hide when they came home. Benham stood with the door. 261 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:00.279 Kane stepped out of the closet and after a few words, shot the 262 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.880 woman. As he moved toward the bed, Benham started shooting at him. 263 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.720 Caine ran from the room and hid the gun and the mattress on the roof, 264 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:10.279 and then went to his room and flushed the cap and bandana down the 265 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:14.599 drain. Eleven fifteen pm, Ben and I found a gun where Cain said 266 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:18.480 it would be thirty eight Special Detective Colt Revolver two winch Berrel number three eight 267 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:23.000 one three two seven eleven fifty two PM. We checked and found no evidence 268 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:27.400 that Benham belonged to any kind of a gang. March nineteenth nine am, 269 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:30.720 Ben and I reported into homicide and picked up Captain Steed and we went over 270 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.960 to doctor Wagner to learn his autopsy report. It showed that the deceased had 271 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.079 been shot three times. Two thirty eight slugs and one thirty two twenty were 272 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:44.319 recovered from the victim's body. They were initial for evidence. Eight pm, 273 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:47.640 Captain Steve ben and I went to the sanitarium and told Benham that there were 274 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:49.480 a few angles we wanted to clear up before the inquest. Next morning. 275 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:53.319 Benham got dressed and we drove back to the bottle of hotel was rained. 276 00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:59.559 I'm still trying to remember what happened. I was very shot that night. 277 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.440 Yeah, I suppose you were. Sometimes my memory comes back for a little 278 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.680 bit the red line. Yeah, I see. You know, the man 279 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:10.319 who did the shooting knew you lived in room four thirty two, and he 280 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:14.079 knew you'd be gone that night. How do you suppose he figured that out? 281 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:15.960 Well? I like been noticing that a lot of men had been following 282 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.640 me suspiciously from man until back to Sergeant Friday, didn't nice Argee? Yeah, 283 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:23.559 that's right, must have been one of them. You have to give 284 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.279 money to characters on the street so much they might follow you. That must 285 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:30.079 be it. Many times I used to do that. I'd be nice toly 286 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.200 try to make friends. Do you remember any of them. Yeah, yeah, 287 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:38.440 I do. There was for men Dorsey, Jolly Swanson and fun name 288 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:45.279 name Laine Kine. Yeah, then that's a king. There you are there, 289 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:52.279 you are the young manuflquency in the hospital thing. I believe that's Kine. 290 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:56.240 Are you sure? Quite sure he's the burglar? What makes you think 291 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:59.720 he was a burglar or what else would he be? He didn't rifle an 292 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:02.720 he or is he stealing anything? Did? He must have got there just 293 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:07.039 before us. Did you have anything important there? Oh? Yes, some 294 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:12.720 insurance policies and your wife. Yeah how much? Well one policy for fourth 295 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:19.839 cosm two for twenty five hundred years. Who's the beneficiary? Right? I 296 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:26.400 am. We took Ben him up the room four thirty two where he got 297 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:30.000 out the insurance policies on his wife and showed them to us. Then Captain 298 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:34.000 Steed asked him to reenact the shooting. Benham acted as the killer. I 299 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:38.839 played Benham and Ben acted as his wife. Well, the man was over 300 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:41.079 here in the closet. My wife and I came in that door, and 301 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:45.039 then my wife went over to the dress room. Oh over here, you 302 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.079 turned on the light, oh yeah, and then I closed the door went 303 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:52.279 over behind her like this, she was closer to the bed. Yeah, 304 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:56.920 yeah, well you standing next to her? Yeah, do you start to 305 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.519 take off your coach. I was just going to when this this man stepped 306 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:06.200 out of this closet here how far? Oh? Here? Yeah? Yeah 307 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:08.279 right here? None. Well he had the gun, they said, and 308 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:11.920 asked how much money we had. Elizabeth said, we didn't have much from 309 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:17.799 here. Yeah, but but but she turned around. Yeah that's it what 310 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:21.559 happened then? Well then I said, I haven't got very much, but 311 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.839 I'll give you what we have started shooting. Yeah, but you said before 312 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:26.839 that your wife started looking in her purse. Yeah, that's what she did. 313 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.960 I forgot and that made him think she was going after a gun. 314 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.720 How do you know, Well, I suppose that's what he thought. He 315 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.559 shot, and Elizabeth fell on the bed. I pulled out my gun and 316 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.319 started shooting, and the man right out the door. And that's all. 317 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:45.039 That's exactly what happened. Huh, just as I remember it. Will I 318 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:49.880 help you not very much? What's the matter? Well, if you were 319 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.000 standing where I am, there'd be bullet holes on that side of the little 320 00:24:53.000 --> 00:25:00.839 there, wouldn't you. They're all on this side. See I got it. 321 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.200 Come with me where you're going on the roof for I want to show 322 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.920 you something. Yeah, it's raining. There are two umbrellas in the ties 323 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:08.160 it. I'll get them. Why do you want to go up there? 324 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:12.839 I think I know where that gun might be hidden. I bet it's there 325 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:17.599 here. You take this umbrella, we'll take this one, Captain. Let's 326 00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:37.279 go. I bet it's up there. We'll find you. You got your 327 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:44.960 wife's like ben, Yeah, should be around here somewhere. What's the mattress? 328 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.240 My wife used to take sun baths on it? Where would it be? 329 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:51.599 But just about here? I don't see any Sure it's up here. 330 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:53.680 I bet it's on the next room. Didn't you say can't live in that 331 00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:59.880 hotel? He probably won't do any flash light over there, behind an ell 332 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:03.880 of a chap there, Yeah, there, it's here. We have to 333 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:06.440 climb over this part. But to get on the other roof. Watch the 334 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:18.279 gap. It's pretty slippery. Okay, yeas slipping. Okay, mh this 335 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:26.079 mat is here. That's it. Take a look all right, No, 336 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:30.920 nothing here? Did you look all around there? Did you look in the 337 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.880 corners? No, that would be a good place to hide a gun. 338 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.039 Don't you think and let me see. It might be a hole cut in 339 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:45.880 one of them. H maybe the other corner. Now maybe this one. 340 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:56.319 Yeah, you see the matches have been cut. No, no, it's 341 00:26:56.359 --> 00:27:07.720 got to be here by h Yeah. Here, I know it can I'll 342 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:15.400 find it. I'll find it. Go away, you see, I'll get 343 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:22.240 it. I know it can't. I'll fight you would, I'll get it. 344 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:33.599 I'll get it. He's getting wet, Jill. We got the thirty 345 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:38.279 eighteen. Told us about it. You're ready to talk. Yeah, insurance 346 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:45.240 that why you did it? Yeah, I'm a sick man. Let's go 347 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:56.519 about him on your peak. All right. They played that ball game the 348 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:02.960 other day. Yeah, who won? Fired? Sure do dag? Baseball 349 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:07.880 must be a real nice business. Yeah. Fans only yell, but they 350 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:18.799 never do it. Let's that kill the empire. The story you have just 351 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.680 heard was true, only the names were changed to protect the innocence. On 352 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.200 July, second trial was held in Superior Court, Department eighty nine, City 353 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.200 and County of Los Angeles, State of California. In a moment the results 354 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:41.559 of that trial, Thomas Kane was convicted of second degree murder and received a 355 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.519 term as prescribed by law. Theodore V. 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Here we see a guy planning and watching a nine thousand 372 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:26.000 dollars plan and proves in the process that he's not quite as smart. And 373 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:33.960 many programs would say things like you can't outsmart the FBI, you just can't 374 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:38.079 defeat the police. Here, though, they opt to instead just show somebody 375 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:42.839 try, and they get the message across just as effectively, if not more 376 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:48.440 so. Now, what oddity about this episode for listeners who were born in 377 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:55.640 the last sixty years ago? Is this idea of going to see the Pirates 378 00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:00.880 and the Cobs play in an excavation game in Los Angeles. Important thing to 379 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:07.359 remember was that at this point, the LA did not have its own major 380 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.799 league team. In fact, in nineteen fifty if you wanted to see Major 381 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.839 League baseball and you were west of Saint Louis, you were pretty much out 382 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:23.599 of lock. Major League Baseball wouldn't come to Los Angeles until nineteen fifty eight. 383 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:30.920 Los Angeles played host to at least one and occasionally two minor league teams. 384 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.880 There was the Los Angeles Angels, and another minor league team that played 385 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:41.960 there was the Hallleywood Stars. The Angels played at Wrigley Field, and yes, 386 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:47.519 there was a Wrigley Field in Los Angeles, and it had more parking 387 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:52.640 available than the Wrigley Field in Chicago. In fact, it's still it has 388 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:59.880 more parking than the current Wrigley Field situation. And it was not only the 389 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:05.400 home for minor league baseball, it was where Hollywood went to film baseball movies. 390 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.000 They filmed the Pride of the Yankees there, along with the original Angels 391 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:15.039 in the Outfield movie from nineteen fifty two, and of course the Home Run 392 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:20.559 Derby series from the early sixties. There was also an episode of The Twilight 393 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.279 Zone that was filmed there, as well as an episode of The Monsters. 394 00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:29.000 I know I'm getting a little off topic, but it came up in my 395 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:34.200 research, and Wrigley Field in Los Angeles is on the list now of places 396 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.119 I would love to go and visit if I got a time machine. But 397 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:43.920 yeah, teams could definitely come through and play exhibition games on the West Coast, 398 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:50.359 just as they play exhibition games in Florida and Arizona as part of spring 399 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:54.640 training. But Major League Baseball was still about eight years away from coming west. 400 00:32:55.039 --> 00:33:01.160 And then we do have a comment here from Hia, who says, 401 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:07.559 Hi, it's Hia Simpkin. My boyfriend and I both love dragnetting your Dragonnet 402 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.400 shows. I have a couple questions about the mission scene. What is the 403 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:17.920 song played when everyone goes marching off to launch. The answer is that it 404 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:24.359 was Onward Christian Soldiers, and it was a song where the words were written 405 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:35.200 by the Anglican priest Sobbing bearing Gold in eighteen sixty five, and the music 406 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:44.079 was written by Arthur Sullivan of Gilbert and Sullivan in eighteen seventy one. It's 407 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:50.440 commonly associated with the Salvation Army as their professional hymn, and having it played 408 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.400 there at the end of a service does kind of evoke the Salvation Army. 409 00:33:54.039 --> 00:34:00.319 But in a more practical sense, the song had the virtue under the then 410 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:07.079 copyright laws. In effect, a song would only be in copyright for a 411 00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:12.159 total of fifty six years, so that one came into the public domain in 412 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:16.199 nineteen twenty seven, so the music could be used without paying any sort of 413 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:23.039 royalty. The second question is this next one may be a dumb question, 414 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:28.440 since I don't know much about Christianity. Why does the preacher call everyone brother? 415 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.000 And sister. I know Catholics call monks and nuns that, but whether 416 00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:35.400 the mission is Catholic or not, this can't be the case since Friday and 417 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.559 Romero aren't monks at all. Thank you for your show. It's a great 418 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.599 way to start the week. Well, hi, it's been quite a while 419 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:50.800 since they mentioned their outfits now, Seriously, that is a good question. 420 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:59.960 There are various different approaches to how people are addressed in various Christian denominations. 421 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:07.960 Some will use a phrase brother or sister to relate to all Christians, or 422 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:14.880 they'll use it to relate to all people as brothers and sisters. There is 423 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:21.039 an important thing to say about Dragnet in the nineteen fifties and when it comes 424 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:28.480 to the way that it rites and portrays Protestant missions and ministers. And certainly 425 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:34.199 there was definitely no sort of ill will intended, but there really wasn't any 426 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:40.639 apparent research, and so the way that they're written is just very court kind 427 00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:47.119 of cheesy and in a way that's really clunky. It wasn't actually all that 428 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:52.400 bad last week, but it is something that you will hear throughout the series, 429 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:59.000 where for whatever reason it was just not as well researched, and it 430 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.920 may have been because because there were assumptions about the audience of the time that 431 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:07.800 you were dealing with a nation where perhaps majority Protestant, and so they would 432 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:13.000 actually know how an actual Protestant minister would sound. So I wasn't really thought 433 00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:16.639 of as a big deal. And of course it wasn't just Dragnet. You'll 434 00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:22.239 find in a lot of shows and movies that there are kind of very basic, 435 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:28.440 stereotypical pictures that are painted and I think that did become a bit of 436 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:32.519 an issue for the Salvation Army, and in nineteen fifty eight they launched their 437 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:42.039 own radio series, Heartbeat Theater. The series highlighted the Salvation Army's role as 438 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:47.320 a provider of community relief and social services and there are efforts to help people 439 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.360 throughout the community to highlight the sort of work they did, and it was 440 00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.880 a very good series that actually continue to run into the nineteen eighties. But 441 00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.679 in short, with Dragnet, you'll get a lot of grain looks at how 442 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:07.880 things were in the nineteen fifties and so many areas, but I would say 443 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:14.039 that that one area where you probably don't really get a feel for how people 444 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:20.199 are like or were like as when the show goes into portraying rescue missions and 445 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.239 Protestant ministries as they just tend to go for the more hoky and like I 446 00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:29.920 said, last week wasn't the biggest example of that, but there are others, 447 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:35.599 so consider your self advice. All right. Another listener comment, Michelle 448 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.880 comments, I love the details you give us in the commentary before and at 449 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.920 the end of each show. Thank you for all your research and enthusiasm. 450 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:52.559 And then Douglas says, your followers may be interested to know they can download 451 00:37:52.639 --> 00:38:00.880 almost every radio show ever produced for free at archive dot org. Thanks Douglas, 452 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:08.440 and you can certainly download most of those who are that are available at 453 00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:13.920 archive dot org, though a few of the more obscure series you'll have to 454 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.079 search elsewhere for all right, Well, that will do it for today. 455 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:25.199 We will be back tomorrow with our sixteen hundredth episode special It's Edmund O'Brien you 456 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.679 won't want to miss it, and then join us on Monday for the Saint. 457 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.719 Next Saturday, we'll be back with another episode of drag Net. In 458 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:38.079 the meantime, sendra comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net. Follow 459 00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:43.239 us on Twitter at Radio Detectives and become one of our friends on Facebook, 460 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.679 Facebook dot com Slash Radio Detectives and from Boise, Idaho, this is your 461 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.639 host, Adam Grahamson and all