WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:10.359 This is the art of wrestling with professional wrestler called Cabanda. All right, 2 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:14.480 how are you doing? Come on in, sit down, relax, You're 3 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:19.280 about to listen to the art of wrestling. A professional wrestling podcast. It's 4 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:22.559 a life podcast. It's a personal journal. It's an entryway into the minds 5 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:26.160 that holds the hearts and lives of the people involved the world of professional wrestling. 6 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:30.519 I am your host. My name is Cold Cabana. I'm a podcaster, 7 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:36.079 I'm a dog owner, I'm a video game player streaming it. Nonetheless, 8 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:39.560 most importantly, though, I am a professional wrestler, and I am 9 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:45.840 coming to you live from my studio apartment in Chicago, Illinois. 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And when this batch started, I had Chavo Guerrero 28 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:12.840 on the show to promote me being on The Young Rock. Chavo Guerrero was 29 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:16.759 the stunt coordinator on The Young Rock. The Young Rock just had its season 30 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:23.240 two finale. Check it out on Hulu or Peacock my episode season two, 31 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:29.520 episode eight titled Corpus Christie it will live there forever, and cross your fingers 32 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:32.960 that maybe we can sneak on a season three season three. They just granted 33 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:36.960 season three, so it will be happening. Maybe let the people know it. 34 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:40.120 The young rock that you want to see the Brooklyn Brawler in season three, 35 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:46.199 I know, I do. Oh head over to Australia again for seven 36 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:51.120 weeks. What a life. So fun, So fun to have Vicky Guerrero 37 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:55.400 on the show. Vicki the mouthpiece, the manager for Nyla Rose. These 38 00:02:55.439 --> 00:03:00.520 two are perfect for each other. So fun to see them backstage being friends. 39 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:05.240 So fun to see them backstage being friends, making a connection. And 40 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:08.439 Vicky has made a connection with a lot of people over the years through wrestling. 41 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:13.240 Obviously Eddie and the Guerrero family, obviously a lot of the wrestlers in 42 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.800 WWE and now AW but also the fans. She's a very true person. 43 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:20.919 I've gotten to know Vicky, and I'm so happy that I've gotten to know 44 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.719 Vicki. I think it's made me a better person. And I'm happy that 45 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:28.719 she has come on the show today and she gets to tell her story She's 46 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.520 got a podcast, the Excuse Me Podcast, and Vicky's been a guest on 47 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:37.400 many podcasts before. But I like the way that my dumb brain works and 48 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.240 that I see a story in my head, and so for me, it's 49 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:46.439 fun to go through the story of these wrestling personalities and to ask the questions 50 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.400 that come into my brain on the spot. There's never any notes. I 51 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.680 do some research, but not not too much crazy research. I just it's 52 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:58.960 almost a form of improv comedy. Like I listen, I wonder to myself, 53 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.280 what are the things that I'm thinking and wondering, And then because I 54 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.400 have a platform in a podcast, I get to say them, I get 55 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:09.159 to ask them, and they get to be part of the conversation that I 56 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:13.319 have with my guests. So very fun for Vicky. Check out podcast Rick 57 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:17.079 Flair. Rick Flair is the first episode of season three. Yes, Rick 58 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:21.079 Flair owes Kerry Silkin a lot of money. He will never pay him for 59 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:26.759 that. It does make me upset, but I do understand he's in the 60 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:30.399 zeitgeist of professional wrestling and people like listening to him. He's got a lot 61 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:34.199 of weird things and fun things to say, and I'm sure Vicky and him 62 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:38.040 have a really fun convo. But this isn't about Vicky and Rick. This 63 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:41.399 is about me and Vicky. So we're gonna get to that in a bit. 64 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:45.800 As for me, for years, you sat here and you would hear 65 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.240 about my past weekends, and I would talk about all of the wrestling that 66 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:55.600 I'm doing and my experiences and my matches and the places that I traveled. 67 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.399 And as I say that, that's kind of all starting to slow down. 68 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.959 As I had a birthday, I've hit forty two years old. But this 69 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:08.040 weekend I was in both Hazelton, Pennsylvania, and Atlanta, Georgia, and 70 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:12.959 then I flew to Los Angeles, not for wrestling. I sadly my uncle 71 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:16.199 passed away, which makes you also do a lot of thinking. But as 72 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:20.199 I say to myself, it's time to slow down a little bit, save 73 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:25.759 your body. You're not getting any younger. The calls keep coming, and 74 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:30.879 I still enjoy going and doing wrestling. So I had a real fun experience 75 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:36.279 this weekend. Jonathan Gresham is helping start a movement and basically British wrestling coming 76 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:41.160 to this American scene. And you know, twelve years ago, there wasn't 77 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:46.360 a thing called Fight TV or IWTV or High Spots TV, and those are 78 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:51.040 part of the wrestling scene now and they're popular, especially Fight TV. Michael 79 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.959 Webber did such a great job in building Fight TV. I was there at 80 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.720 Ring of Honor when you could tell he was onto something. It was trying 81 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.399 to make it happen, and now I'd like to think it's happened. And 82 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:05.920 so a group like Modern Age Grappling or Terminus that Gresham is helping run has 83 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:11.199 this kind of platform to put wrestling on and so I was proud to be 84 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:14.839 part of that experience on Sunday. And I'm going to go back there at 85 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.079 the end of the month on June thirtieth, and I'm going to keep myself 86 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:24.040 in the wrestling world, including aw still signed, still there. I'm like 87 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:28.120 Dennis Stamp just waiting for the call. But until then, I will continue 88 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:32.879 a positive forward push with whatever I'm doing, and that of course includes this 89 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:39.680 podcast and this talk with Vicky Guerrero before we get into it. 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You seemed when so I just did your 113 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.240 podcast and this will come out a little later than when I was recorded, 114 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:33.559 but for the sake of now as in real time as we're talking, and 115 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:39.039 you seem so excited to um to look at to do some research about this 116 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:43.000 this boy with down syndrome, who was so as he's a man to be 117 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.279 honest. Oh really, yeah, it was so excited to say, excuse 118 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.720 me over and over again with you. Oh, I'm gonna just harass him 119 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.279 my fault. I mean, I'm gonna follow him and harass him every day 120 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:54.360 and I should make his day. Yes, I think you should excuse me 121 00:08:54.440 --> 00:09:00.639 bomb him in your DMS and oh yeah, it's his life will be a 122 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:05.240 tortures from now on. Good good. And with that, I've noticed, 123 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:13.480 so I've noticed that you have like really taken on the internet world, if 124 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.840 that makes sense. What's were not encouraged? Um, you've dove right in, 125 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.279 like you're you're into it. Yeah, Well, you know, I 126 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.080 learned like through the last three years that when I was depending on other people 127 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.320 to get projects done for me, they weren't following through. And I was 128 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.600 so upset and angry, and I was just like the only wanted to be 129 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:35.240 mad at myself because I should be overseeing all that, because I put too 130 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.480 much trust in other people. So I just took on the whole job of 131 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.840 hustling, you know, and putting my content out there and making videos and 132 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:48.720 I mean not sleep much, but I get the job done. You said, 133 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.399 you said these projects, So like I think that was kind of my 134 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.840 where my brain is going, is you wanted to dive into these things I 135 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:00.559 do. I love it, really, I mean, you know and why 136 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:05.279 and how and well I guess, okay, So I having news like I 137 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:11.399 guess a mentor because you you have a trailblazed reputation of your podcast that if 138 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:16.759 I don't work my brand, you know, with my audience out there, 139 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.519 then no one's going to hear from me. So I saw the importance of 140 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.679 how social media is free, you know, and I keeps it to my 141 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:28.039 advantage. And I've noticed that, you know, when you post and you 142 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.759 have content and you're interactive with the fans, it kind of spreads the word. 143 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:35.879 And when I don't, it's very quiet in social media. So um, 144 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.399 but I love I love giving my fans what they want, you know, 145 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:43.240 like if there's a funny thing I do at home, or you like 146 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.879 my TikTok videos or my Twitch. I have a lot of fun doing that. 147 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:50.840 It's just trying. Like I told you when you were on my show 148 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.720 that it's hard to manage your time, especially without a travel schedule, and 149 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.440 it's kind of a difficult thing sometimes because when we're on the road, we 150 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.360 just want to seepen, you know, because we got back in a room 151 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.639 like you're twelve or one. But I like it a lot, especially bringing 152 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.759 guests to my audience on the podcast. When the fans said, well, 153 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.399 I really love that you know guests, I didn't know that about him or 154 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.159 her. It made me feel good because they get to know something personal about 155 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.200 our wrestling industry. You said it gets really quiet, which I found very 156 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.559 interesting that statement, because it's true right, It's so true, like if 157 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:28.480 I'm not onto TV or whatever and I don't post anything, you know, 158 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:33.679 But on the flip side, like you know, social media could be so 159 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.600 dangerous and when it comes, it comes, and when it comes negative or 160 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.559 like we freak out. Is there? Yeah? Have you had that balance 161 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:45.000 in your head of discussion? Yeah, because I mean, of course, 162 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.679 naturally we look at our likes and our followers, because that's you know that 163 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.799 you're doing a good job when you have that number increase. I've learned the 164 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.080 hard way that when I've expressed my political views or made a comment about somebody 165 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.240 that's going on in the world, the fans can either love you or hate 166 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:03.320 you. And I it's kind of a sad situation because of who we are. 167 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.960 We're kind of silenced by what we feel and think, and it's kind 168 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:13.039 of discouraging to me. But I've learned to just kind of go around that 169 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:16.879 and just focus on the entertainment side. You know, what my character's doing. 170 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.000 You know, if I'm on like you said, if I'm on Dynamite, 171 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.720 which is very you know, far in between, or with Dark you 172 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.000 know, I try and take advantage of those moments and bring my audience, 173 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:30.279 you know, to know that something good happened, you know, with my 174 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.759 work. But uh yeah, the fans or they can love us or hate 175 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.919 us, and when they when they hate us, it's a long day because 176 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.879 you're trying to um, trying to like reprove yourself again, like hey, 177 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.000 I'm not such a bad person. I just have an opinion like you do, 178 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:46.279 you know. But and when it's a great day, you get all 179 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.840 the likes and there's followers, You're like, well that was a nice day. 180 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:54.440 I can go to bed now. Um, Okay. So I was 181 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.799 really curious because when I was thinking, like, oh, I'm glad to 182 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:03.320 have Vicki on and right, like and you admit, you tell me this 183 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:05.759 if this is true or not, I'm sure with that territory comes like Eddie 184 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.559 questions, right, And I was kind of curious, not necessarily answers, 185 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:16.120 but like your anxiety of like going into something like this, like do I 186 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.600 have to talk about this? Does it bring up like emotions? Like do 187 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:24.519 those emotions come up for you? No? I mean I always you know, 188 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.120 Eddie's always going to be part of my past, you know, and 189 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.360 part of my life because without his legacy and me being able to perform with 190 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:35.360 him in WWE. I didn't have that. I wouldn't have had that start 191 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:41.720 without him. And so to have been married to him and have my family 192 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:45.080 with him and the girls, and how that legacy follow me with a get 193 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.240 Attle name, I'm very fortunate because then I don't take that lightly and I 194 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:52.759 am very humbled about it. So when the fans want to talk about that, 195 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.879 I feel good about it. Yeah so, but you know when people 196 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:58.799 can you know, put a negative twist on it, you know, or 197 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:01.039 you know, I can't believe that they just gave you a job, you 198 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:05.559 know at w B because you were Eddie's wife. I had to prove myself 199 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:07.399 and a lot of fans don't see that if I was, if I was 200 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:09.720 a shit, they were gonna, you know, Vincent man, I would 201 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.000 have said, you know, thank you very much. You know, you 202 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.399 need to go home now. You know. That was the reality. But 203 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:18.320 I did love the industry and I loved the performance side of it, and 204 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:22.159 it was a family, you know. So I was working with all my 205 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.240 friends, so I wasn't really nervous or anything. I just wanted to make 206 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:30.279 them proud as well and show them that I was going to give one hundred 207 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.720 percent in whatever I was doing, whether it was a food fight or making 208 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:37.440 out a guy, or firing or firing someone. I was having a great 209 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:41.320 time, right right. But the mentality of here we are twenty years later 210 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:46.360 about that relationship or whatever, just going into these kind of things, it's 211 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:50.759 all you know, that doesn't weigh on you, right. I think what 212 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.720 weighs on me, coult is that I'm remarried now. You know, I 213 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.879 got married, you know, twelve years after Eddie passed. And my husband 214 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.480 is not a wrestling fan, you know, he has his own life. 215 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:05.480 And but the fans can be really cruel when I post something about us, 216 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.639 and they have to understand that I'm not forgetting Eddie and I'm not not loving 217 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.799 him. I just I still have a life to live, and I still 218 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.679 have so much in me that I want to share with someone because I'm want 219 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:18.000 to be by myself. You know, my kids are out of the house, 220 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.960 and I don't want to be like in this you know house, there's 221 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:26.600 no one around me. And I found a man that loves me, and 222 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:30.200 he loves what I do, and he's trying to learn about the industry. 223 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:31.480 And I have to have a lot of patience with him, you know, 224 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:35.840 when he asked questions about this or that. But um, yeah, I 225 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.279 think that's the worst part is when fans want to attack, you know, 226 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:41.919 my current husband, when he's just the innocent one. Yes, I don't 227 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.039 want to like encourage it, like does he he doesn't? Does he have 228 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.840 so? Does he? I don't want to say does he have social media? 229 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.000 But like he does? Oh and do they do that on that? 230 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.759 Huh? Yes, they bullied him a little bit, you know, but 231 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.360 he's you know, he's a mature man, like he has his own career, 232 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.159 you know. And it's really great because when we're home, it's just 233 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:07.840 Vicky and Chris, you know, it's just us, and he really tries 234 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.399 to separate that because he knows I come from the road kind of burned out, 235 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:14.320 you know, becomes stress and tired. So we have a boat, 236 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:17.600 we like to go fishing, and we like to work on our farms. 237 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.279 So it's it's really a cool thing that he kind of knows how to shut 238 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:25.279 it off and just focus on us. But it's really hard when the fans 239 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:29.080 are just like you, you're not Eddie Guerrero. Well, and he just 240 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:30.879 hees what do I say to this, like can I say what I feel? 241 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.799 And I'm like no, just don't give it power, don't give it 242 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.519 thought. Now, he's good at it. He's just deletes, right or 243 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.360 mutes are blocks, yeah, which which I've learned to do. And that's 244 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:44.720 a lot about there's two different I mean, we've learned in wrestling, there's 245 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.559 two different people who can handle social media, and luckily he's one of the 246 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:51.759 Yeah, but you know, blocking gives them power. I mean I only 247 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:53.799 mute now, Yeah, I don't block. Yeah, that's true, only 248 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.519 mute. I don't want them to have that power. They can talk all 249 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.919 the shit they want and I will never see it. But it's hard, 250 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.559 it's it's hard. I mean I'm still I have a heart. Like the 251 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.799 bean person was attacking me. Yeah, I just I want to tell them 252 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.759 off. I want to give them a whole paragraph of what it's like a 253 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:17.559 true villainous Yeah that he comes out exactly. But yeah, I've learned to 254 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:19.440 just kind of just delete it or just you know, leave it alone. 255 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:22.920 Hey, the shows are ad free over on Patreon. Let's take a quick 256 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.559 ad break. We'll be right back. Okay, you made a statement that 257 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.440 just like whenever I hear it, it just hits this thing in my mind, 258 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.039 which is like, we come from all different places and we're all different 259 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:37.559 people. And you said we I work on my farm, which you know, 260 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.839 I'm like a city Chicago boy. So it's so crazy when we just 261 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:47.240 talk with different wrestlers and they have different, completely different lives than all of 262 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:51.240 us. Yeah, you have a farm. Yeah, we moved into the 263 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:53.319 country. I live in Houston, so we moved about an hour two hours 264 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:56.960 out and we've always wanted that, you know, that was something. We're 265 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.079 close to the water, so we can be in our boat weekends, and 266 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:04.640 we're just really simple. You know. I love to put a thermis of 267 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.200 a beer and we go on the boat and fish and just cruise the bay 268 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.880 and um, and I love the quiet time. You know that. I 269 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:17.599 have three acres and we're building a chicken coop and getting a duck pond, 270 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:21.200 and I have two dogs and I want five more, and I just I 271 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:23.279 love it. And all the snakes, I don't welcome them, but I'm 272 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:32.400 really good at killing them. Now a big hole just right down the middle. 273 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.880 Does Jake give you any advice? No, he didn't like snakes. 274 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.920 You know that, right, I don't know. I mean he used it. 275 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:42.559 He used a gimmick because it made him money. But he said he 276 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:45.799 couldn't stand the snakes. But I hate snakes, Like I don't know why 277 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:51.960 God in his loving heart made such a horrible creature, because I mean, 278 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:55.880 we have coral snakes around our house. We have rattle snakes and even like 279 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:59.119 good snakes that we're supposed to keep around. And my neighbors are like you 280 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:03.119 sho identify by them before you kill him, Like like, hell I am, 281 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.799 I'm gonna, you know, see if this one snake is gonna be 282 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:08.319 good or bad. I have dogs and Lasianne wanted them is to be in 283 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:12.559 my house, right, Yeah? They could be what people have snakes as 284 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:15.880 pets. Yeah, I don't know, all right, yeah, okay did 285 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:22.440 you so? Okay, so let's talk about uh childhood growing up? Um 286 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:26.799 did you grow up? You had told me you were Mexican. Yes, 287 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:33.559 I am Mexican cult No, my mom's French and my dad was Mexican French. 288 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:38.480 Yes yeah, oh wow. Yeah? And where did you grow up? 289 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.640 And I'll passo Texas Okay. Um, I was in the city. 290 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:45.240 We were very much city kids. Um. Adaml Passo, Texas. Did 291 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.839 your dad come over from Mexico? Um, his family did, so he 292 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.000 was born here. So, um, my mom and dad men in high 293 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:57.480 school and they didn't stay married very long, but through various step parents and 294 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:02.279 the changing of parents, I have five younger brothers. And so I was 295 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:06.960 the only girl. And I was into cheerleading and dance and I was a 296 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:10.599 percussionist in the college band in high school. And um, I had a 297 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:12.839 pretty great life. You know, cushionist in the college band in high school. 298 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:17.480 Yeah, in high school. Yeah, a drum line, A drummer, 299 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:19.880 yeah, I sure was. Yeah, a xylophone. That was the 300 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:25.039 only instrument in band that interests me because there was cute guys. Okay. 301 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:29.400 I was all about the football players and the band, and I was good. 302 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:32.079 I was a flag girl, like anything that was fun to do and 303 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:36.799 entertainment. I love to perform. So getting into the wrestling world, it 304 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:38.119 was They're like, oh my god, how are you going to do this? 305 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:42.640 And I'm like, it's it's fine. You've never seen me drum line, 306 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.359 So oh so did you were you moving around a lodder? Because it's 307 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.480 interest your your parents did they have they have you in high school. Yes, 308 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:57.200 they did. My mom was really young, but you know she uh, 309 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:00.599 she had a lot of kids, and so she divorced and then remarried, 310 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:06.160 and my dad remarried and had kids and we stayed in all Passo for 311 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:10.400 all my childhood. So I went to Clinton High School and it was a 312 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:15.160 very small class of like sixty two, and it was it was great. 313 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.640 You know, everyone knew everyone, and I loved my childhood. My stepdad, 314 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.359 John's one who really raised me, and he was just great. He 315 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.119 encouraged me to go to college and do good and stay away from the cops. 316 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.880 And you know, if you get in trouble, I'll be there, 317 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.359 you know. So that was good or bad sometimes. And there's a lot 318 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.960 of kids. Like was it just kids running around at all time? Yeah, 319 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:38.839 you know back then, you know, it's gonna be funny. We 320 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:41.680 didn't have cell phones. You know, I'm fifty three, you know, 321 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.440 I graduated eighty six, So there was no cell phones. You know, 322 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:49.480 when the street lights came on, that's when you came in. You knew 323 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:52.960 where my brothers were because their bikes were in front of their friends houses. 324 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:56.799 We didn't lock our doors. I mean the neighbors sat out at night and 325 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:00.680 my parents would drink with the other neighbors and we'd have fireworks in our cul 326 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:04.480 de sack. Really good childhood, you know. I mean I didn't get 327 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.079 into the back crowd. You know, my brothers did, so I was 328 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:11.880 the good child. And so my brother's always resented me. Well, my 329 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.880 younger brother, I'm really close with him. He's a year younger, and 330 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.119 he got in trouble and my dad John loved me because I was the only 331 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:21.480 girl. So I got away with everything that I could, and so there 332 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:26.599 was always that battle of the siblings. And no farming, No, no, 333 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.240 why why am I stuck on farming? I just I love to rescue 334 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:34.240 dogs, and I just we have the property now, and my neighbors have 335 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:40.279 cows and horses and goats, and I'm not too advanced in that whole area 336 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:42.400 of like big animals. So I'm like, I'll I'll keep it small and 337 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:47.720 chickens and goats and you know, maybe a goat, but ducks and dogs 338 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:49.519 I can handle. Did you grow up with animals? Yeah, we had 339 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:53.079 a lot of dogs and cats, and uh, we actually raised chickens at 340 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:57.079 one point, but my dad gave him away to our FA team in high 341 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:02.720 school, so it was in My friends had grew cotton and they picked the 342 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:06.839 con on weekends and they had the big tractors. So I always had agriculture 343 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:08.960 around me and I like to help out, so it always stayed in my 344 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:11.799 blood. And where do you go to college? You tip? Oh? 345 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:15.440 Nice? Yeah? I went there for a year and then found the union, 346 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:19.200 and I thought it was so great that could be on a scholarship and 347 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:22.640 party every day until I got kicked out because I wasn't going to class. 348 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:26.839 What's the union? It's where everyone met where. Yeah, that's where you 349 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.559 know, the pool tables in the bar. I'm like, wow, school 350 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.519 is so much fun. And I learned the hard way that you know, 351 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:37.400 I lost my scholarship. But then after Eddie passed, I went back to 352 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:42.160 college and got my bachelor's degree in medical administration. So what had you been 353 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.720 going for a first? Just business? It was just you know, you 354 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.079 didn't know what you're going to do, so you always take the business route. 355 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:52.680 And so I assume people that always go back like hadn't weight on you 356 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.920 your whole life. It did, Yeah, it did. Because when Eddie 357 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:59.720 and I were having our girls It was agreed that I would stay home while 358 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:02.720 Eddie toured, and I was okay with that because I saw how long he 359 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:04.799 was going to be on the road, and I didn't want someone else raising 360 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:07.799 my kids. You know, that was important to me that I was going 361 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.480 to be home and be there for them while Eddie was touring, and then 362 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.279 when he would come home. You know, then I made I made the 363 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:17.799 home ready, you know, that we could all spend time together, and 364 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:21.359 everything was right for Eddie to enjoy the girls, you know, whether school 365 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:25.119 events or something I planned. It was a planner to get him to make 366 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:27.799 all the events. I thought you were going to say, I wanted our 367 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:30.920 kids to go to college. I tried, so I wanted to leave by 368 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:33.920 example. I well, you know, I wish they would have. I 369 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.240 mean I did ask them to go, but you know, out at the 370 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:40.519 same time, I told them, you know, if you're going to waste 371 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:45.039 your money, then don't go because you were oh, I mean, it 372 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:49.720 was expensive and they both you know, they're smart girls. But even college. 373 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.480 You know, I think at that time, when I was young, 374 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.039 I wasn't ready for it. You know, the discipline of studying and doing 375 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.759 papers and being in class. I was interested in make money, you know, 376 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.440 and having a job and paying for my car, and that's what I 377 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.240 like to do. And then I was a dancer for a minor baseball team 378 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:11.519 in al Paso, so that's where Eddie would go and watch me all the 379 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:15.480 time. And then I was getting ready to trial for the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. 380 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.720 And two weeks earlier, I was getting ready to get the road trip 381 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.160 and go to Dallas and I found out I was pregnant by Eddie. Oh 382 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:25.160 yeah, so I was like, dude, you're gonna love me now? 383 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.640 Is there any resentment? And you're heard for that looking kind of looking back 384 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:32.960 after all of these yeah, I mean you know that. I mean, 385 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:34.119 you know, I talked to Rebel all the time. I had her on 386 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.559 my show, and she was a Dallas Calboy cheerleader and I've always I've loved 387 00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:42.119 that group. Dallas Cowboys is my team, you know, so when I 388 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.920 see them, you know, I would have been great. But I got 389 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:51.200 two beautiful kids out of it and a family and traveled the world and lived 390 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.920 this life. Yeah, so the good you know, it wasn't really a 391 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:57.160 bad thing, but you know, life was great to me after that, 392 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.799 so it was all good. I know this story, this has probably been 393 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:04.559 told on a million podcasts, but you how did you guys meet? I 394 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.039 don't know, we've been on a blind date, okay. Yeah. I 395 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:11.680 was such a bit when I you know, when I was dating in high 396 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.519 school or it was after high school, okay, yeah, I was graduate 397 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:18.640 eighty six. My best friend knew Eddie's best friend, and they're like, 398 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:19.960 hey, you know, we want to get y'all together and see if y'all 399 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.119 would you know, want a date or just meet. And I was like, 400 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.160 oh my gosh, if he's gonna be like a drag or anything like, 401 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.640 just we'll meet and then if it's if he's bad, then we'll just 402 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.039 bounce and go to another club, you know. And so we got together, 403 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.119 and of course Eddie was late like two hours, and I was already 404 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:42.960 dancing. Yeah, Mexican time, literally Mexican time, and I think I 405 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.400 was already dancing with other guys. I was like, I'm not waiting around 406 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.319 for him, you know. And I we couldn't drink back then. We're 407 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.440 still under age, so you know, all we want to do is me 408 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:57.799 and my girlfriend's go go dance and Eddie showed up, and my girlfriend Tina, 409 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:00.799 she was just like, oh, what do you think, like just 410 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.079 kind of gave me his eyes, and I'm like, I thought he was 411 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.519 the most beautiful man that was walked the earth. Because when I was in 412 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.960 high school, we were in the kind of a country atmosphere. So the 413 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:15.240 guys were very clean shaven, short haircuts, you know, off the collar. 414 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.480 Um had had their button up shirt, you know, very strict dress 415 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.839 code. And when Eddie walked in, his hair was like passed his shoulders. 416 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.839 And he had muscles like my friends never had muscles. I didn't know 417 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.640 what they were. And he had like the tightest jeans and cowboy boots and 418 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.480 I was like, oh my god, Like he's gorgeous. Yeah he was. 419 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:41.039 Yeah, and so he said and he was he was going to, 420 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.000 uh, I'm gonna go walk around the club and I'm like fine, whatever, 421 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:47.240 and um he came back around and goes, okay, can we dance? 422 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.480 And we dance? And I were is that, like I'm gonna see, 423 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:55.079 like okay, he was out. He was sculping out the club. 424 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:59.400 You can't can't work a worker, yeah, you know, but he was 425 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:03.240 just actually said he was nervous he didn't know like where to start or to 426 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.400 ask me to, you know, dance or just start talking. Of course, 427 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.160 you can't talk in a club because it's so loud, you know. 428 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.880 But we danced and I broke her for you that night because I was supposed 429 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.440 to be home by like two o'clock. Lights on the street came out, 430 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.559 yeah and me and we sat in the parking lot to like maybe four or 431 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.039 four thirty in the morning, talking and just fell in love with him. 432 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:27.000 So funny story. When I got home, I was panicking because I was 433 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.759 like, oh my god, my car's gonna be taken away. I'm gonna 434 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.559 I'm gonna be in so much trouble. Well, when I went to bed, 435 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.000 no one was up, so I parked my car like kind of off 436 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.519 from the house. I could just walk to the house. And next morning 437 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:42.960 they're like, hey, you know, what time do you get home? 438 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:47.119 And I was like, I had to be honest because it was gonna come 439 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:48.920 out sooner or later. I'm like, you know, I was late. 440 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:51.480 Well, my mom started asking me, well, who would you mean. 441 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.000 I said, I met this great guy. He's so cute, Mom, 442 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.759 Like he had muscles, like the best muscles ever. In the long hair, 443 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.640 like, I'm just in love with him, and she goes, well, 444 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.039 what's his name? And I said that's something guerrero and he's like a 445 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.440 wrestler and I was like, and I can't stand wrestling, but he was 446 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.519 really cute. And she was, well, I know the Guerreros from Alpaso, 447 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:12.839 right, And I was like, yeah, I guess his family's in 448 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:17.720 wrestling or something. She goes, your grandfather used to make his dad's wrestling 449 00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:23.240 robe and boots, and you and Eddie's playing the playpen when when we would 450 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.839 have him, you know, their babysitting in the kids. So Eddie's dad 451 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.480 brought him to be in the playpan while my grandfather was fitting him for robes 452 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:34.599 and trying on his boots. That's amazing. So it's just been a funny 453 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:40.200 story that how my friends thought that they were doing a blind dape and reality 454 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.680 we already met. It was a second plan. Yeah, yeah, really 455 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:47.599 really cool story. The shows are ad free over on Patreon right now. 456 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.519 We're going to take a quick ad break and we'll be right back. You 457 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.920 said you didn't like wrestling. I guess that's the question, right. Yeah. 458 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:57.119 I hated it, well because you know it was part of the culture 459 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.279 there, right, yeah, oh absolutely, but you know what Household of 460 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.000 Brothers. Wrestling was on all the time, and I'd be, oh my 461 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.960 god, can we watch something else? You know, I want wanted to 462 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:11.079 watch figure skating or cheerlean or whatever. But if it's on all the time, 463 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.599 it never was just like fine, I just want to watch the TV. 464 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:17.599 It's just a guy sport. That was just ridiculous, like didn't interest 465 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:22.400 me, okay, And then um we dated for three years and going to 466 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.440 the matches and being around Eddie's mom. Tell me about the first the first 467 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.640 time you go to a match. I don't know what the hell was going 468 00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.440 on. Where it was at the Colosseum. His dad promoted Gory Guerrero promoted 469 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.880 in Alpasso, okay, and his dad brought all the wrestlers in the Von 470 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.920 Eric's um. He brought in Roddy Piper like it was huge, which is 471 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:47.319 better than going to one word. There's sixty people. Yea really yeah. 472 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.319 And his whole family, like his sister, took tickets. His mom was 473 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:53.960 in the concession. It was a very big business for the family. And 474 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.880 you went with him or went with some girlfriends. No, I went with 475 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.440 him. We brought one of my brothers with us, and so I can 476 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.240 have someone to sit with. Cosettie was in the back and Eddie was very 477 00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:10.640 protective of the business, which I now I respect that because he was didn't 478 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.160 want to give me all the secrets of what was going on. But I 479 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.960 didn't. I didn't understand why. You know, I knew there was a 480 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.599 winner and a loser, but I didn't understand all the theatrics, and you 481 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.119 know, I thought the moves were really cool and stuff, but I had 482 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.440 a lot of questions. I don't understand what the purpose of this is except 483 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.319 that there's a winner and a loser. And there was like guys in cute 484 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.240 shorts, and I knew the von Eicks, so to see the von Ers 485 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.480 went oh my god, like they're so you know, they're they're so great 486 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:40.640 and I know who they are. But then I thought, well, I 487 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:41.640 mean, are they are? They give me worth you know, having a 488 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.119 crush on But you know, it was just funny because I meet them and 489 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.839 I'm like, oh, it's nice to meet you. But then Rye Piper 490 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.000 and you know, these other wrestlers, I'm like, oh, hi, 491 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.799 now, I'm like, what a fool you are, because these were legends. 492 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:56.799 You know. I was just like the girlfriend. There's just like being 493 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.720 there with Eddie just to hold his hand. Yeah, And was he a 494 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.720 star that day or was he? No? He worked, Um, he 495 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:07.680 worked the back, you know, he was helping his dad. No, 496 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.599 he was in the back, you know, um, probably in guerrilla, 497 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:15.839 getting the guys ready town and when they're up and he set up the ring, 498 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:19.000 broke it down, you know, helped his dad with whatever was going 499 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:20.720 on. I think he would want to take you to the one he was 500 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:23.680 wrestling at right. Well, eventually he was starting to wrestle in what is 501 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:29.599 which is like across the border from a Passo and um, and so going 502 00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:34.279 to those matches were crazy. I mean, just an atmosphere of you know, 503 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.599 of course he had a following because he was a good at all and 504 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:42.680 meeting all the wrestlers there, and I was going every Thursday or Sunday, 505 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.519 and so I was getting very familiar with who the wrestlers were, and um, 506 00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.799 watching Eddie you know, prepare and he'd work out and you know, 507 00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.920 we'd drive over there, and then I started kind of asking more questions, 508 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:58.519 like well, how's this guy bleeding all of a sudden, like, you 509 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.920 know, how how is you know this guy so sweet bay stage? But 510 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:04.880 then he's such an asshole in the ring, you know. And he was 511 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.519 just like in time, you will know. That's all he would tell me 512 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:08.839 because he didn't want us to break up. And then I was going to 513 00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:16.759 go and tell everything. I know. Yeah, and what was your like 514 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:21.680 did you make I guess what was your position at the wrestling shows? Was 515 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:24.519 it? Did you make some friends with some other girlfriends or no? If 516 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:29.880 anything? Eddie's mom taught me everything that I know today. You sat with 517 00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.119 her a lot many times because Eddie would train in the backyard. They had 518 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:36.240 a wrestling ring, and his dad, when he was alive, would sit 519 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:40.079 on the lawn chair and train Eddie and his friends for hours and hours. 520 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:44.200 I mean, his dad put them through a whole training regime. What was 521 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.599 he like casually sitting back in a launch chair in the shape in the shape 522 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:51.559 and they were in the sun working out. I mean they worked out for 523 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.880 a long time. But they had a table in the living room that looked 524 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:59.400 down to the ring, and I would sit there and and his mom had 525 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.960 very frank conversations with me about what it's going to be like to see Eddie 526 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:06.640 and what is because I hadn't gone yet, and she's like, I want 527 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.239 to prepare you. You know. There's gonna be women they're gonna want to 528 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.119 be with Eddie. There's gonna be women that are gonna hang out by his 529 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.719 car when he gets back to his car. There's gonna be people that don't 530 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.679 like you because you walk in with Eddie. And then you're gonna meet some 531 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:23.760 great people in the wrestling industry. And when I got pregnant, she already 532 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:29.440 knew, like because she were really close. So when we were hanging out, 533 00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.360 she was like, are you okay? You know? And I was 534 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.840 like, yeah, why you know? And then I think, like a 535 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.280 few weeks later I found out that I was pregnant. She's like, I 536 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.440 knew you're pregnant, you know. And she goes, and now we're gonna 537 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.519 have a very serious conversation. And she was a good Christian lady, and 538 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.920 you know, and she just very frank with me. She goes, I 539 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:51.119 wish I had someone to help me when I was you know, your age, 540 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.679 And she told me all the pros and cons of being a wrestling wife 541 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.280 and being a girlfriend. And now you have a baby that you're gonna bring 542 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:00.480 into this world that's gonna not gonna be very friendly to you. You're going 543 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:05.400 to be raising the baby all by yourself. Eddie maybe with you, but 544 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:09.159 he's never gonna be home because he's on the road. Is that the first 545 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:14.440 time you had you heard that or had that realization? No, that was 546 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.079 she made me. Really, she was the one who made me realize what 547 00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:21.519 I was getting into. And she's like, you can either have this baby 548 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.840 and not be with Eddie and not have the stress of him never being home, 549 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.440 or you're gonna love him so much that you're willing to accept all the 550 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.639 bad for the love that you have for him. And did you did you 551 00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.800 go home to your family, like did you take time to like think of 552 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.679 about that or um? I mean, of course it was in my mind. 553 00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.159 But I was in love with Eddie, you know, I mean we 554 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.880 dated for almost three and a half years. He was my everything. And 555 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.519 you know what's funny is that he would the girls were always at his house, 556 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.599 Like on the door they had wrought iron because his mom had to have 557 00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:59.480 wrought iron because the fans would trying always you know, iron like rot iron 558 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.800 fans around on their house. Yeah, I'll passo because we have gags. 559 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.519 You had wrought iron because it would protect your front door. No one could 560 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.800 get into your windows or break in, like bars on the windows. So 561 00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:14.800 you know, sometimes Eddie and I would come home and there'd be a girl 562 00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:16.760 like ringing the doorbell, and he'd be like, oh, hey, so 563 00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.559 and so he had a lot of girlfriends, let me tell you, Like 564 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.000 he was a jiggalow, you know. And of course it stopped when we 565 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.679 were dating, but you know, girls still they knew where we lived, 566 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.199 you know, And so I knew kind of what she was telling me. 567 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.920 You know, I need to prepare if I'm gonna love Eddie, it's gonna 568 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.239 be for everything that this restling life is going to bring me. And there 569 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.360 were some really hard times, you know, but I always had her to 570 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:43.800 go to and talk to. And she was like, you know, the 571 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.880 wife is going to be the single parent and she's gonna make all the decisions 572 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.280 and you're gonna run the whole house while you know, Eddie's on the road. 573 00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:52.960 And I thought, wow, that's really cool, Like I'm gonna have 574 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:58.880 control of everything and having kids and being alone. It was a really hard 575 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.840 life. It was also good too, and we had provided a living for 576 00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:06.960 us, and I mean that's a full time job obviously. Yeah, it 577 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:08.280 was what sucked, is it? You know Eddie would call and he'd be 578 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:12.679 like him and die malinko and you know Cris ban Wana. They would be 579 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.760 like a dinner and they went to some fancy restaurant they had like a car 580 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:20.559 service and he's like, what are you doing. Well, Shaw's throwing up 581 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.639 right now and Sharon has the shits of diarrhea. So I'm cleaning that up 582 00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:28.639 and I have to change sheets and he's like, okay, well I'll touch 583 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.840 you, like yeah, so but he was good about it. You know, 584 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:36.599 do you have like in those moments thinking back while that's I know it's 585 00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.400 like a big long time, but do you have like moments of remembering like 586 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.480 there, I want not I want to do something else, but like I 587 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:49.880 know, there's I don't know that Dallas, you know it was there those 588 00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:54.480 times, or the Dallas Cowboy cheerleader or drumming, or even starting a small 589 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.840 business or like not doing a podcast, but whatever the equivalent of was back 590 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:00.559 then. I mean, I think in the moment when I was married, 591 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.480 and you know, we went through a lot of hard times with Eddie's addictions 592 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.840 and alcoholism. Um, there were times that I did wish that I didn't 593 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.800 have this life because it was hard and I was handling a lot of things 594 00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.280 on my own. But if the whole big picture, I loved wrestling. 595 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.719 That was my That was a big love for me because I learned to respect 596 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.519 it and it was a way that it supported our family. And Eddie was 597 00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:27.920 very good at it, so to see how when he would perform, I 598 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.119 was very proud of him and I love to watch him, and you know, 599 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.199 and it was a great life. But yeah, there's always that, 600 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.679 you know, like when you're home for like two weeks and Eddie's and you 601 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.400 know, overseas and you can't talk to him because we didn't have cell phones 602 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:43.800 and stuff. Then you couldn't talk to him until he reached a hotel that 603 00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:46.440 you had a landline. Um. Yeah, you know, I didn't have 604 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:51.079 a lot of friends because they didn't understand our schedule or our life. And 605 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.079 my friends, you know, had different lives. They were single and you 606 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:57.000 know, did their own things. So and I had kids already, So 607 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.000 yeah, there is a difference of you know, living and lifestyles. But 608 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.360 I don't regret because I was a good mom. I you know, I 609 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.360 took care of them and they were healthy and they were very active in school. 610 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.920 So I was proud that I could be there for everything. The shows 611 00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.920 are ad free over on Patreon. Let's take a quick ad break right now, 612 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.599 and we'll be right back. So you had said that you were on 613 00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:23.679 TV with I don't know the storylines exactly. Yeah, it was the dominant 614 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:30.480 child custody case Eddie against Ray at WWE, and so that was in two 615 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:32.840 thousand started in two thousand and four, and then they kind of worked it 616 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.199 a little bit and then started getting bigger and bigger, and then of course 617 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.039 Vince, you know, it was bringing the kids in and the wives and 618 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.960 let's make this real shit over here, you know. And that was your 619 00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:49.159 first was that your first time doing anything? Very first time, and that 620 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.239 was very I don't I didn't like to be in front of the camera because 621 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.719 that's not what I ever did you know professionally was what you knew? Yeah, 622 00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.840 and you know, and Eddie was just like, we just want you 623 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.800 to have just a small cam backstage. I'm going to yell at you whatever 624 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:06.599 the thing was and was scary as it. You know. They would say, 625 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.880 Okay, we need the girls to cry at this queue, you know, 626 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:10.840 and I was like, well, that's not going to happen. Like 627 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.880 they can't. That's too much pressure. Man. My girls were like pros. 628 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.559 They're like just start crying. I'm like, oh my god, who 629 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.679 are you Were they excited to do that at the time. Oh, they 630 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.639 loved it. They loved and they paid them, you know, so they 631 00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:29.440 thought they're already making living. Yeah, but um, well were they Well 632 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.840 I guess they were probably running around backstage in general before that, right, 633 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.480 Yeah. All the kids back there, you know at that age, you 634 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:39.599 know, like Dominic and my girls and all the other rests who lost kids 635 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.519 were do they make Chris ben Wat's kids were there, you know. So 636 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:46.960 I mean it's like this club they had and we really never took care of 637 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.719 them. Backstage. They had their whole they had their own little click and 638 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:53.400 they kind of went off and did their own thing, and um it would 639 00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.760 see them like in the corridors, you know, running around and people would 640 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:01.039 give them like popcorn from the concession stand, and so they really had a 641 00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:06.440 good a good time backstage. But when they we started bringing in Dominic, 642 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.639 you know, he had the main part of the storyline and he was just 643 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.880 a natural. Really he did a good job. But then we had Angie 644 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:17.639 who was raised wife and we had raised other daughter, and you know, 645 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:22.199 we just kind of went blindfolded into it. And um, but I loved 646 00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.119 it too. Did you feel any any pressure? Yeah, because if I 647 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.119 did something wrong, I had to go home with Eddie and like hear it, 648 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.159 because Eddie is such a perfectionist. You know, I told myself, 649 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:35.880 I don't want this to be in the way of our marriage because I don't 650 00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:37.599 need this stress. Like if you want to find someone else to play your 651 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:42.119 wife or do that, you know, I'm okay with that. And um, 652 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.840 you know, because Eddie had a lot of you know, other storylines 653 00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.800 with other women, so that was very like, it's just another storyline to 654 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.800 me, because no, it wouldn't be realness. They actually see you, 655 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.360 you know with the child custody case. And um, I said okay, 656 00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.519 And I loved it. I mean, they gave me, you know, 657 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.119 lines to memorize and I was, you know, the camera went on, 658 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:04.480 I was, I was good at it, you know, I wasn't nervous. 659 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.440 They weren't nervous. Yeah, I wasn't, you know, I just 660 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:12.159 in the leading up to it, Yeah, I mean, it's just, 661 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.840 you know, Eddie was there. We all joke. You know. They 662 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:19.159 made me feel very comfortable. I knew Vince really well, so they kind 663 00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.400 of just you know, we kind of knew what was going on. Of 664 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.760 course, now going live for the pay per view itself, you know, 665 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.280 and then having to go out there and run out to throw Eddie off the 666 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.559 ladder and running out there, it wasn't just walking. That was very overwhelming 667 00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.880 to me. That was I was like, I'm going to trip over my 668 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.280 heels and get get in the ring, and I had like so many seconds 669 00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:44.440 to get to the ladder to stop Eddie. That was very I don't think 670 00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:47.199 I slept a few nights before that. But it worked out great, you 671 00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:52.079 know, and everyone was just having a good time, so it was good. 672 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:58.280 And then so the transition to then Eddie's past, can you kind of 673 00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.760 tell me that story? Yeah, Yeah, Eddie passed in two thousand and 674 00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:05.559 five in November, and so I inducted him to the Hall of Fame in 675 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.840 two thousand and six, and uh, I did that, and time kind 676 00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:14.800 of went by with maybe like six or seven months and then uh, Johnny's 677 00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:16.760 called. You know, hey kid, you know how they going look like 678 00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:20.960 you have an impression of Johnny? How can you not? I know, 679 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.719 of course obvious and um he was you know, checking, He always checked 680 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:27.599 on us and hey, you want to come out and like do some you 681 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.519 know work for us, you know, for the shows and just a little 682 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:34.760 bit you know here and there. So I mean, but who's Uh is 683 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.800 that just a random call from Johnny A's or do you think like looking back, 684 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:39.280 do you think they were brewing it around or had you said, hey, 685 00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:43.079 I'm kinda like I don't know what to do with my life or anything 686 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.639 or um, it wasn't ever spoken like what am I gonna do? Um? 687 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.840 You know, we were we were taking care of by Wiebe and you 688 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:52.880 know, he took care of the kids. You know, that was the 689 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.199 main thing. You know, set up a college fund and that was really 690 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.119 helpful. Um, you know, we were we were okay, you know 691 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:00.960 where I didn't need to look for a job, you know, and I 692 00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.400 was going to go back to school, you know, that was one of 693 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.159 my plans. But I'm sure It was a conversation because they want to keep 694 00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.960 Eddie the storyline a little bit longer because with this passing, of course, 695 00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.639 that would bring some more viewers. You know, it's all about the ratings, 696 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.559 and you bring Eddie's name and the ratings shot up, you know, 697 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:21.119 so many points or whatever it was. And they said, just come to 698 00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:23.199 the you know, come to the shows maybe for two months. Let's work 699 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:28.360 with you know, Jericho and you know ben Wa Batista, and let's do 700 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.039 some stuff just to you know, keep Eddie's legacy going. And with you 701 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.960 being there, I'll make it really personal and we know you can memorize lines, 702 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.000 and you know, you were really great with the camera, so let's 703 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.159 try it. I said, you know, so, I said, two 704 00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.519 months. That's good. Yeah. I mean my question is like it's just 705 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.199 like Twitter, right, like we can look at that both ways, right, 706 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:50.880 Like we can look at that like oh, they're using Eddie's name, 707 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.119 but you can also look like fuck like when you say it like that, 708 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.159 like let's keep his legacy alive. That's how that works. Yeah, that's 709 00:44:55.159 --> 00:45:02.239 how it was. But the bash and I got on social media and people 710 00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:07.679 talking to me walking into the arena. They were so cruel to me because, 711 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.920 oh, you're only there because you're Eddie's wife. Yes, I was 712 00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.599 Eddie's wife, and you know they're using me. But at the same time, 713 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:20.320 you know, I could earn a paycheck to support myself and the girls, 714 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.239 and so it was a very you know, it was a lot of 715 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.960 like up and down for me because I didn't want to insult the industry because 716 00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.199 I love the wrestling industry and I didn't want to bring any disrespect to it. 717 00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:35.920 But if I was able to do this job and they were happy with 718 00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:40.039 it and every and everything was going away as planned, then damn, I'm 719 00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.199 going to do this, you know. And I liked it. But it 720 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.639 was only for two months, you know, because I had the girls at 721 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.599 home, so I had family watched the girls. I was traveling once a 722 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:52.440 week, and things started really getting good, you know, where they were 723 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.320 talking about you know, being a manager or you could you know, go 724 00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.280 with edge And when things started taking off where they were using me anymore, 725 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.079 and I was on TV all the time and Vince was like, can we 726 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:05.679 try this with you? You know, you want to do this, and 727 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:07.840 it just took off and I was loving it, and they're like are you 728 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.000 okay? And I'm like, yeah, it's good. You know, two 729 00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.320 months will be over in no time. Well, then I was offered a 730 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.360 contract let's try a year, and then Edge came into the picture, and 731 00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:22.199 then I was doing you know, the manager stuff for Ron SmackDown, and 732 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.599 I was like a little kid. I was like, oh my gosh, 733 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:29.760 I'm actually doing this. So I loved it. Do you remember a time 734 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.320 when you were when it clicked, Like when you're like when it clicked, 735 00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.239 I don't know when you're like, oh fuck, I am good at this. 736 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:37.800 Um, I don't think. I think I was so worried about what 737 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:42.880 I had to do each night that I wasn't enjoying the journey. It's probably 738 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.320 maybe like five years. Five years. Yeah, that was like, oh 739 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.239 maybe three months or three who weeks? Well, because you know, I 740 00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.519 wasn't asked to do access either with WWE, or I wasn't involved in a 741 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.960 lot of the main like WrestleMania moments and stuff. It was still the guys 742 00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:00.360 that were doing it. But when they started using me in fans or she's 743 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.320 saying, oh my god, I love your character, like you're such a 744 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.679 bitch, you know, like you're irritating me with your excuse me, you 745 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:10.639 know, and all it just started. I started accepting that I do have 746 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:14.960 a place here and I love it and I'm going to do my best at 747 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.440 it. So it took a long time for me to realize for me that 748 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.679 you know, I was doing a good a good thing, and excuse me 749 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.320 came from real life. I can only assume, Oh yeah, I forgot 750 00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:29.880 a promo one night, I actually forgot my lines. Vince changed my promo 751 00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:34.079 like three or four times, maybe five, within like forty five minutes going 752 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.519 live, and I was in a wheelchair. I was doing the gimmick of 753 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.480 the wheelchair and Teddy Long was pushing me. We were in Gorilla and they 754 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:44.480 gave me my first promo and I got it done. I was ready to 755 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.639 go, oh no, there's revision. They bring me another one. After 756 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.000 the fourth one, Teddy Long goes, You're gonna fuck this up, aren't 757 00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:52.440 you? And I was like, yeah, I think tonight it's going to 758 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:57.039 be a good night to do that. Because he saw I was overwhelmed. 759 00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.440 I mean, my promos were almost two pages. I mean, it was 760 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.639 just so much to do. So I mean, that's your filler word for 761 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.719 I don't know what's happening, right, Yeah, but was that a filler 762 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.400 word at home with the kids? No? No, I never gets it 763 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.039 at home. Okay, No, I assume maybe that was no. I 764 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.320 mean, and I forgot my promo And so the fans are very smart. 765 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.480 In the front row, I'm on stage, I'm looking like a deer, 766 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:22.639 like I'm trying to like search for wherever I would begin, and they were 767 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.000 so cruelers fans like throwing fingers at me, and they were like, just 768 00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:29.960 tell me horrible things like we told you don't belong here, you forgot your 769 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.920 lines, go home. And I just yelled out, excuse me, like 770 00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:37.519 at my bitchy voice, and they roared like they got really mad that I 771 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.039 said something back and I said it again. And then when I went back 772 00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:43.639 to Gorilla, I finished it. It was a horrible I mean, it 773 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.679 was the worst job I've ever done. And I went back to Gorilla and 774 00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.719 their writers are like, we're gonna try that next week. I think we 775 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.760 have something here, and so it worked. That's also nice that in wrestling, 776 00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.199 like for me, as an agent or a coach or whatever, I 777 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:01.880 can sit back and be like that's a thing, and you wouldn't even know, 778 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:07.320 right, you were just out there. But you know there's people outside 779 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.519 of you and outside of your body who can pinpoint the things that will hit. 780 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:14.360 And so they would write excuse me at the very beginning and just for 781 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.039 me to start with that. And then I when I left, you know, 782 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.079 I created that. So I trademarked it really quick and yeah, business 783 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.840 and marketing. Yeah, and so it's lasted. Gosh, it's almost man, 784 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.400 it's like seventeen years later. I'm still using it. Yeah. Hey, 785 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:34.679 the shows are ad free over on Patreon. Let's take a quick ad 786 00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.239 break. We'll be right back. You and Nila are together now? Yes, 787 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:44.840 and how's that relationship? I love Lila Sometimes I just look at her 788 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.440 like who are you? Because I mean, especially her Twitter interaction when I 789 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:52.800 read her tweets. She's so creative and funny and I love her to pieces 790 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:58.320 like we just grew to have a great respect for each other. We wish 791 00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:02.800 that I in aw I love being there, I love the company. I 792 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:06.559 just wish I could be more of my character there, you know, because 793 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:08.679 there's so many promos I could see at that moment that I want to do 794 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.400 and either time short or I'm not utilized in that same way. So we 795 00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.079 talk about that, you know, you know, I'm sorry, you know, 796 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:19.320 we can't use you more. You know, I'm sorry you didn't get 797 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:21.079 to do your promo because I would ask, you know, my agent, 798 00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:22.679 like, can't do a promo tonight? You know. So that's like the 799 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:28.840 most frustrating thing. But that aside working with her and seeing how she's just 800 00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.760 breaking these barriers, you know, with her the truth in her lifestyle and 801 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.079 who she is. I'm really proud to stand next to her and just say 802 00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.440 this is my friend. That's great, Yeah, of course, and it's 803 00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:43.360 fun for you. I'd imagine to continue that life you get like, you 804 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.719 know, like aw is great because it's just like oh if you know, 805 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.559 once a week on the road and so it's like we can live our real 806 00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:51.519 lives. We can farm if we want to, but then we can, 807 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:53.679 you know, we can get a sprinkle of what the lifestyle is. Right. 808 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.599 Yeah. When I saw that when I went to ABE for a couple 809 00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.440 of appearances and they're telling me their skeed Joel and was talking to Tony and 810 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:04.559 he's like, yeah, we only just work once a week, and we 811 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.079 were in Jacksonville during the time during COVID, and he's like, you'll come 812 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.079 out like every two weeks and we'll spend like four days here. And I'm 813 00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:15.800 like, yes, I've never heard of this schedule before. This is crazy, 814 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:20.480 and so that attracted me and I respect the schedule. And Tony's so 815 00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:24.320 great with shuttling us like to the arena. Like in WW you have your 816 00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:28.440 own rental car and get yourself there and on time, you know, and 817 00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.719 then take yourself to the next city. So that lifestyle was very different to 818 00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:37.079 come here and see how how um we're so spoiled we really are. And 819 00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.599 when the kids, you know, argue, you know, they complain, 820 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:43.280 I'm like, oh, you need to stop there, because you have no 821 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:47.760 idea how bad this could be. Well, wrestling has always changed and evolved, 822 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:51.519 yeah, and this is this is this is the next step of like, 823 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:53.960 yeah, getting the guy, the guys and the girls and whatever, 824 00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:58.800 trying to you know, getting them to shuttle to blazes and having their hotels 825 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:04.360 ready for them. Like like we've evolved. It's wrestling has left the the 826 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:09.360 warez fields and it's it's really arenas and some capacities and yeah, I mean, 827 00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:12.920 you know, a lot of kids didn't realize it in WWE. You 828 00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:15.679 know, they only paid for your air to get to work and your hotel 829 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:21.719 and rental cars where your own responsibility and food, you know, Tony kahan 830 00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.880 is I mean he provides food for us sometimes at the hotels. That's such 831 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:30.840 a respectful thing that he shows to us, not only as his wrestlers, 832 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:32.360 but as human beings, like hey, I'm going to feed you tonight. 833 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:36.480 So I don't take that lightly, the little thing, but it goes along 834 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.079 way absolutely. So you know how he you know, has taken care of 835 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:45.400 us is speaks volumes of the heart that he has and how grateful we should 836 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.360 be to be in this company. Yeah. Well, I appreciate all your 837 00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:52.400 success. I appreciate it everything you've done and you do. And I think 838 00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:58.239 it's still so cool that you're you're you're still doing it, you're having fun, 839 00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.840 You're such a positive person. It's so great positivity. I don't know 840 00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:07.719 if that came to you. I don't know where does that We'll leave with 841 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.920 that, like, where does that mentality? Because I really appreciate and enjoy 842 00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:15.679 your positivity. Thank you. I think after Eddie's passing, I really learned 843 00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:20.639 how life was very precious and how it could change overnight. And so we 844 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:22.760 have a choice of how we're gonna live our day. And I have a 845 00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:25.400 lot of stuff, personal stuff that goes on, you know, when we 846 00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:30.159 get home and I have to leave at the door because our days are long 847 00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:31.920 at work, and we have a choice to either make the best of our 848 00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:36.840 day or we can make it a shitty day. And I choose the good 849 00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.960 day. Yeah, so I believe in it. Yeah, awesome, Thanks 850 00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:47.960 Cale, I appreciate it you. 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This 893 00:56:45.079 --> 00:57:07.360 has been the art of wrestling. Colcabana, I'm Colecabana. Thanks. But 894 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:14.559 what's scary people? No, guys, you guys, Oh my room? 895 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:24.679 Oh okay, so don't worry about it. They do a lot of interviews, 896 00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:37.320 not really either. He's doing something. It's TV and c Yeah, 897 00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:43.639 TV sounds like gold be a great time to do it. But then quiet, 898 00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:49.960 yeah, that's how I feel, and like I feel like an hour 899 00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.960 gap or whatever. It is. Still it's hard to find even though we 900 00:57:54.039 --> 00:58:00.400 have all the time of the world, we've been right forget it general. 901 00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:19.400 That's a cool LAMI zoom it's a stable in the podcast, that's what it's 902 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:24.000 zoom. But I mean that what's a different zoom. It's called yeah, 903 00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:28.559 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um Yeah, it's like a known 904 00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:34.039 audio recorder. Okay, I just put it's just to know how much time 905 00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:39.079 I've been doing. Okay, Hi, Vicky, let's get some levels on 906 00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:43.880 you. Testing one, two, three testing. That's good. I don't 907 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.880 know what did you have for breakfast this morning? I had a meal of 908 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:52.440 a meal prepping of chicken, sausage and eggs and a slice of bacon. 909 00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.280 Very nice. Okay, I think that's good. Um, you got a 910 00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:59.440 meal, You got a your own meal prepping or I did it. But 911 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.800 I went to have fit live foods. I'm under Bryce's training. I went 912 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:06.360 there in Orlando and got a whole bunch of meals for the road, and 913 00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:07.920 they're pretty good. Okay, I'm not I don't hate them. Okay. 914 00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:13.559 Him some probiotic that's disgusting. Like I thought I was gonna throw up all 915 00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:15.920 over my room in this morning. He's like, it's gonna taste bad. 916 00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:17.599 I'm like, how bad can it be? Right? I put it with 917 00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:22.280 water. I'm gonna bitch at him today powder I need to put something else 918 00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.519 in there. So yeah, he's trying to keep all my sugars down and 919 00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:29.519 everything. I wish I had someone looking after me, like Oh that's all 920 00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.079 right, all right, I'm gonna get you to talk in this microphone the 921 00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:37.239 whole time, and that's our conversation. Here we are on another beautiful day 922 00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:37.559 of aw wrestling,