1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:10,359 This is the art of wrestling with professional wrestler called Cabanda. All right, 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,480 how are you doing? Come on in, sit down, relax, You're 3 00:00:14,519 --> 00:00:19,280 about to listen to the art of wrestling. A professional wrestling podcast. It's 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,559 a life podcast. It's a personal journal. It's an entryway into the minds 5 00:00:22,559 --> 00:00:26,160 that holds the hearts and lives of the people involved the world of professional wrestling. 6 00:00:26,839 --> 00:00:30,519 I am your host. My name is Cold Cabana. I'm a podcaster, 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:36,079 I'm a dog owner, I'm a video game player streaming it. Nonetheless, 8 00:00:36,439 --> 00:00:39,560 most importantly, though, I am a professional wrestler, and I am 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:45,840 coming to you live from my studio apartment in Chicago, Illinois. 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And when this batch started, I had Chavo Guerrero 28 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:12,840 on the show to promote me being on The Young Rock. Chavo Guerrero was 29 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:16,759 the stunt coordinator on The Young Rock. The Young Rock just had its season 30 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:23,240 two finale. Check it out on Hulu or Peacock my episode season two, 31 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:29,520 episode eight titled Corpus Christie it will live there forever, and cross your fingers 32 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,960 that maybe we can sneak on a season three season three. They just granted 33 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,960 season three, so it will be happening. Maybe let the people know it. 34 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:40,120 The young rock that you want to see the Brooklyn Brawler in season three, 35 00:02:40,439 --> 00:02:46,199 I know, I do. Oh head over to Australia again for seven 36 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,120 weeks. What a life. So fun, So fun to have Vicky Guerrero 37 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,400 on the show. Vicki the mouthpiece, the manager for Nyla Rose. These 38 00:02:55,439 --> 00:03:00,520 two are perfect for each other. So fun to see them backstage being friends. 39 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:05,240 So fun to see them backstage being friends, making a connection. And 40 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:08,439 Vicky has made a connection with a lot of people over the years through wrestling. 41 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:13,240 Obviously Eddie and the Guerrero family, obviously a lot of the wrestlers in 42 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,800 WWE and now AW but also the fans. She's a very true person. 43 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:20,919 I've gotten to know Vicky, and I'm so happy that I've gotten to know 44 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:23,719 Vicki. I think it's made me a better person. And I'm happy that 45 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,719 she has come on the show today and she gets to tell her story She's 46 00:03:28,759 --> 00:03:31,520 got a podcast, the Excuse Me Podcast, and Vicky's been a guest on 47 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:37,400 many podcasts before. But I like the way that my dumb brain works and 48 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:40,240 that I see a story in my head, and so for me, it's 49 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:46,439 fun to go through the story of these wrestling personalities and to ask the questions 50 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:50,400 that come into my brain on the spot. There's never any notes. I 51 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:53,680 do some research, but not not too much crazy research. I just it's 52 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:58,960 almost a form of improv comedy. Like I listen, I wonder to myself, 53 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:01,280 what are the things that I'm thinking and wondering, And then because I 54 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:04,400 have a platform in a podcast, I get to say them, I get 55 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,159 to ask them, and they get to be part of the conversation that I 56 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,319 have with my guests. So very fun for Vicky. Check out podcast Rick 57 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,079 Flair. Rick Flair is the first episode of season three. Yes, Rick 58 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,079 Flair owes Kerry Silkin a lot of money. He will never pay him for 59 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,759 that. It does make me upset, but I do understand he's in the 60 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:30,399 zeitgeist of professional wrestling and people like listening to him. He's got a lot 61 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:34,199 of weird things and fun things to say, and I'm sure Vicky and him 62 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:38,040 have a really fun convo. But this isn't about Vicky and Rick. This 63 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:41,399 is about me and Vicky. So we're gonna get to that in a bit. 64 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:45,800 As for me, for years, you sat here and you would hear 65 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,240 about my past weekends, and I would talk about all of the wrestling that 66 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:55,600 I'm doing and my experiences and my matches and the places that I traveled. 67 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,399 And as I say that, that's kind of all starting to slow down. 68 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,959 As I had a birthday, I've hit forty two years old. But this 69 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,040 weekend I was in both Hazelton, Pennsylvania, and Atlanta, Georgia, and 70 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:12,959 then I flew to Los Angeles, not for wrestling. I sadly my uncle 71 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,199 passed away, which makes you also do a lot of thinking. But as 72 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:20,199 I say to myself, it's time to slow down a little bit, save 73 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:25,759 your body. You're not getting any younger. The calls keep coming, and 74 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:30,879 I still enjoy going and doing wrestling. So I had a real fun experience 75 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:36,279 this weekend. Jonathan Gresham is helping start a movement and basically British wrestling coming 76 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:41,160 to this American scene. And you know, twelve years ago, there wasn't 77 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:46,360 a thing called Fight TV or IWTV or High Spots TV, and those are 78 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:51,040 part of the wrestling scene now and they're popular, especially Fight TV. Michael 79 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,959 Webber did such a great job in building Fight TV. I was there at 80 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Ring of Honor when you could tell he was onto something. It was trying 81 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,399 to make it happen, and now I'd like to think it's happened. And 82 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,920 so a group like Modern Age Grappling or Terminus that Gresham is helping run has 83 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,199 this kind of platform to put wrestling on and so I was proud to be 84 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,839 part of that experience on Sunday. And I'm going to go back there at 85 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,079 the end of the month on June thirtieth, and I'm going to keep myself 86 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:24,040 in the wrestling world, including aw still signed, still there. I'm like 87 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,120 Dennis Stamp just waiting for the call. But until then, I will continue 88 00:06:28,519 --> 00:06:32,879 a positive forward push with whatever I'm doing, and that of course includes this 89 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:39,680 podcast and this talk with Vicky Guerrero before we get into it. 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You seemed when so I just did your 113 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:31,240 podcast and this will come out a little later than when I was recorded, 114 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,559 but for the sake of now as in real time as we're talking, and 115 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,039 you seem so excited to um to look at to do some research about this 116 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:43,000 this boy with down syndrome, who was so as he's a man to be 117 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,279 honest. Oh really, yeah, it was so excited to say, excuse 118 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,720 me over and over again with you. Oh, I'm gonna just harass him 119 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:52,279 my fault. I mean, I'm gonna follow him and harass him every day 120 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:54,360 and I should make his day. Yes, I think you should excuse me 121 00:08:54,440 --> 00:09:00,639 bomb him in your DMS and oh yeah, it's his life will be a 122 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,240 tortures from now on. Good good. And with that, I've noticed, 123 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:13,480 so I've noticed that you have like really taken on the internet world, if 124 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:16,840 that makes sense. What's were not encouraged? Um, you've dove right in, 125 00:09:16,919 --> 00:09:20,279 like you're you're into it. Yeah, Well, you know, I 126 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:24,080 learned like through the last three years that when I was depending on other people 127 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,320 to get projects done for me, they weren't following through. And I was 128 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,600 so upset and angry, and I was just like the only wanted to be 129 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:35,240 mad at myself because I should be overseeing all that, because I put too 130 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:39,480 much trust in other people. So I just took on the whole job of 131 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,840 hustling, you know, and putting my content out there and making videos and 132 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,720 I mean not sleep much, but I get the job done. You said, 133 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:52,399 you said these projects, So like I think that was kind of my 134 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,840 where my brain is going, is you wanted to dive into these things I 135 00:09:56,879 --> 00:10:00,559 do. I love it, really, I mean, you know and why 136 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:05,279 and how and well I guess, okay, So I having news like I 137 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:11,399 guess a mentor because you you have a trailblazed reputation of your podcast that if 138 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,759 I don't work my brand, you know, with my audience out there, 139 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,519 then no one's going to hear from me. So I saw the importance of 140 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,679 how social media is free, you know, and I keeps it to my 141 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,039 advantage. And I've noticed that, you know, when you post and you 142 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,759 have content and you're interactive with the fans, it kind of spreads the word. 143 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,879 And when I don't, it's very quiet in social media. So um, 144 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,399 but I love I love giving my fans what they want, you know, 145 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,240 like if there's a funny thing I do at home, or you like 146 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:46,879 my TikTok videos or my Twitch. I have a lot of fun doing that. 147 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:50,840 It's just trying. Like I told you when you were on my show 148 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:54,720 that it's hard to manage your time, especially without a travel schedule, and 149 00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:58,440 it's kind of a difficult thing sometimes because when we're on the road, we 150 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,360 just want to seepen, you know, because we got back in a room 151 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:05,639 like you're twelve or one. But I like it a lot, especially bringing 152 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,759 guests to my audience on the podcast. When the fans said, well, 153 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,399 I really love that you know guests, I didn't know that about him or 154 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:16,159 her. It made me feel good because they get to know something personal about 155 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,200 our wrestling industry. You said it gets really quiet, which I found very 156 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,559 interesting that statement, because it's true right, It's so true, like if 157 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,480 I'm not onto TV or whatever and I don't post anything, you know, 158 00:11:30,639 --> 00:11:33,679 But on the flip side, like you know, social media could be so 159 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:37,600 dangerous and when it comes, it comes, and when it comes negative or 160 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,559 like we freak out. Is there? Yeah? Have you had that balance 161 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,000 in your head of discussion? Yeah, because I mean, of course, 162 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,679 naturally we look at our likes and our followers, because that's you know that 163 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,799 you're doing a good job when you have that number increase. I've learned the 164 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,080 hard way that when I've expressed my political views or made a comment about somebody 165 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,240 that's going on in the world, the fans can either love you or hate 166 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:03,320 you. And I it's kind of a sad situation because of who we are. 167 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:07,960 We're kind of silenced by what we feel and think, and it's kind 168 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:13,039 of discouraging to me. But I've learned to just kind of go around that 169 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,879 and just focus on the entertainment side. You know, what my character's doing. 170 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,000 You know, if I'm on like you said, if I'm on Dynamite, 171 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,720 which is very you know, far in between, or with Dark you 172 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:26,000 know, I try and take advantage of those moments and bring my audience, 173 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:30,279 you know, to know that something good happened, you know, with my 174 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,759 work. But uh yeah, the fans or they can love us or hate 175 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,919 us, and when they when they hate us, it's a long day because 176 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:41,879 you're trying to um, trying to like reprove yourself again, like hey, 177 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:45,000 I'm not such a bad person. I just have an opinion like you do, 178 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,279 you know. But and when it's a great day, you get all 179 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:48,840 the likes and there's followers, You're like, well that was a nice day. 180 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:54,440 I can go to bed now. Um, Okay. So I was 181 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:58,799 really curious because when I was thinking, like, oh, I'm glad to 182 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:03,320 have Vicki on and right, like and you admit, you tell me this 183 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,759 if this is true or not, I'm sure with that territory comes like Eddie 184 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,559 questions, right, And I was kind of curious, not necessarily answers, 185 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:16,120 but like your anxiety of like going into something like this, like do I 186 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:18,600 have to talk about this? Does it bring up like emotions? Like do 187 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,519 those emotions come up for you? No? I mean I always you know, 188 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,120 Eddie's always going to be part of my past, you know, and 189 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,360 part of my life because without his legacy and me being able to perform with 190 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,360 him in WWE. I didn't have that. I wouldn't have had that start 191 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:41,720 without him. And so to have been married to him and have my family 192 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:45,080 with him and the girls, and how that legacy follow me with a get 193 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,240 Attle name, I'm very fortunate because then I don't take that lightly and I 194 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:52,759 am very humbled about it. So when the fans want to talk about that, 195 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:56,879 I feel good about it. Yeah so, but you know when people 196 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,799 can you know, put a negative twist on it, you know, or 197 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,039 you know, I can't believe that they just gave you a job, you 198 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:05,559 know at w B because you were Eddie's wife. I had to prove myself 199 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,399 and a lot of fans don't see that if I was, if I was 200 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,720 a shit, they were gonna, you know, Vincent man, I would 201 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,000 have said, you know, thank you very much. You know, you 202 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,399 need to go home now. You know. That was the reality. But 203 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,320 I did love the industry and I loved the performance side of it, and 204 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,159 it was a family, you know. So I was working with all my 205 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,240 friends, so I wasn't really nervous or anything. I just wanted to make 206 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,279 them proud as well and show them that I was going to give one hundred 207 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,720 percent in whatever I was doing, whether it was a food fight or making 208 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,440 out a guy, or firing or firing someone. I was having a great 209 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,320 time, right right. But the mentality of here we are twenty years later 210 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,360 about that relationship or whatever, just going into these kind of things, it's 211 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,759 all you know, that doesn't weigh on you, right. I think what 212 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,720 weighs on me, coult is that I'm remarried now. You know, I 213 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:58,879 got married, you know, twelve years after Eddie passed. And my husband 214 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,480 is not a wrestling fan, you know, he has his own life. 215 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,480 And but the fans can be really cruel when I post something about us, 216 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:09,639 and they have to understand that I'm not forgetting Eddie and I'm not not loving 217 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,799 him. I just I still have a life to live, and I still 218 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,679 have so much in me that I want to share with someone because I'm want 219 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:18,000 to be by myself. You know, my kids are out of the house, 220 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:22,960 and I don't want to be like in this you know house, there's 221 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,600 no one around me. And I found a man that loves me, and 222 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:30,200 he loves what I do, and he's trying to learn about the industry. 223 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,480 And I have to have a lot of patience with him, you know, 224 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,840 when he asked questions about this or that. But um, yeah, I 225 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:39,279 think that's the worst part is when fans want to attack, you know, 226 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,919 my current husband, when he's just the innocent one. Yes, I don't 227 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,039 want to like encourage it, like does he he doesn't? Does he have 228 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,840 so? Does he? I don't want to say does he have social media? 229 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:52,000 But like he does? Oh and do they do that on that? 230 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:54,759 Huh? Yes, they bullied him a little bit, you know, but 231 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,360 he's you know, he's a mature man, like he has his own career, 232 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,159 you know. And it's really great because when we're home, it's just 233 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,840 Vicky and Chris, you know, it's just us, and he really tries 234 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:11,399 to separate that because he knows I come from the road kind of burned out, 235 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:14,320 you know, becomes stress and tired. So we have a boat, 236 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:17,600 we like to go fishing, and we like to work on our farms. 237 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:21,279 So it's it's really a cool thing that he kind of knows how to shut 238 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,279 it off and just focus on us. But it's really hard when the fans 239 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,080 are just like you, you're not Eddie Guerrero. Well, and he just 240 00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:30,879 hees what do I say to this, like can I say what I feel? 241 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:33,799 And I'm like no, just don't give it power, don't give it 242 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,519 thought. Now, he's good at it. He's just deletes, right or 243 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:41,360 mutes are blocks, yeah, which which I've learned to do. And that's 244 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:44,720 a lot about there's two different I mean, we've learned in wrestling, there's 245 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,559 two different people who can handle social media, and luckily he's one of the 246 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:51,759 Yeah, but you know, blocking gives them power. I mean I only 247 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,799 mute now, Yeah, I don't block. Yeah, that's true, only 248 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:56,519 mute. I don't want them to have that power. They can talk all 249 00:16:56,519 --> 00:17:00,919 the shit they want and I will never see it. But it's hard, 250 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,559 it's it's hard. I mean I'm still I have a heart. Like the 251 00:17:04,759 --> 00:17:07,799 bean person was attacking me. Yeah, I just I want to tell them 252 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:11,759 off. I want to give them a whole paragraph of what it's like a 253 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:17,559 true villainous Yeah that he comes out exactly. But yeah, I've learned to 254 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,440 just kind of just delete it or just you know, leave it alone. 255 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,920 Hey, the shows are ad free over on Patreon. Let's take a quick 256 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,559 ad break. We'll be right back. Okay, you made a statement that 257 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,440 just like whenever I hear it, it just hits this thing in my mind, 258 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,039 which is like, we come from all different places and we're all different 259 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:37,559 people. And you said we I work on my farm, which you know, 260 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,839 I'm like a city Chicago boy. So it's so crazy when we just 261 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:47,240 talk with different wrestlers and they have different, completely different lives than all of 262 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,240 us. Yeah, you have a farm. Yeah, we moved into the 263 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:53,319 country. I live in Houston, so we moved about an hour two hours 264 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,960 out and we've always wanted that, you know, that was something. We're 265 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,079 close to the water, so we can be in our boat weekends, and 266 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,640 we're just really simple. You know. I love to put a thermis of 267 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,200 a beer and we go on the boat and fish and just cruise the bay 268 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:11,880 and um, and I love the quiet time. You know that. I 269 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:17,599 have three acres and we're building a chicken coop and getting a duck pond, 270 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,200 and I have two dogs and I want five more, and I just I 271 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:23,279 love it. And all the snakes, I don't welcome them, but I'm 272 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:32,400 really good at killing them. Now a big hole just right down the middle. 273 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,880 Does Jake give you any advice? No, he didn't like snakes. 274 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,920 You know that, right, I don't know. I mean he used it. 275 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,559 He used a gimmick because it made him money. But he said he 276 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:45,799 couldn't stand the snakes. But I hate snakes, Like I don't know why 277 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:51,960 God in his loving heart made such a horrible creature, because I mean, 278 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:55,880 we have coral snakes around our house. We have rattle snakes and even like 279 00:18:56,039 --> 00:18:59,119 good snakes that we're supposed to keep around. And my neighbors are like you 280 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,119 sho identify by them before you kill him, Like like, hell I am, 281 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,799 I'm gonna, you know, see if this one snake is gonna be 282 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:08,319 good or bad. I have dogs and Lasianne wanted them is to be in 283 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,559 my house, right, Yeah? They could be what people have snakes as 284 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:15,880 pets. Yeah, I don't know, all right, yeah, okay did 285 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:22,440 you so? Okay, so let's talk about uh childhood growing up? Um 286 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:26,799 did you grow up? You had told me you were Mexican. Yes, 287 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:33,559 I am Mexican cult No, my mom's French and my dad was Mexican French. 288 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:38,480 Yes yeah, oh wow. Yeah? And where did you grow up? 289 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:41,640 And I'll passo Texas Okay. Um, I was in the city. 290 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,240 We were very much city kids. Um. Adaml Passo, Texas. Did 291 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:48,839 your dad come over from Mexico? Um, his family did, so he 292 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,000 was born here. So, um, my mom and dad men in high 293 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:57,480 school and they didn't stay married very long, but through various step parents and 294 00:19:57,599 --> 00:20:02,279 the changing of parents, I have five younger brothers. And so I was 295 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:06,960 the only girl. And I was into cheerleading and dance and I was a 296 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,599 percussionist in the college band in high school. And um, I had a 297 00:20:10,599 --> 00:20:12,839 pretty great life. You know, cushionist in the college band in high school. 298 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,480 Yeah, in high school. Yeah, a drum line, A drummer, 299 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:19,880 yeah, I sure was. Yeah, a xylophone. That was the 300 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,039 only instrument in band that interests me because there was cute guys. Okay. 301 00:20:25,079 --> 00:20:29,400 I was all about the football players and the band, and I was good. 302 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,079 I was a flag girl, like anything that was fun to do and 303 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,799 entertainment. I love to perform. So getting into the wrestling world, it 304 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,119 was They're like, oh my god, how are you going to do this? 305 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,640 And I'm like, it's it's fine. You've never seen me drum line, 306 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,359 So oh so did you were you moving around a lodder? Because it's 307 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,480 interest your your parents did they have they have you in high school. Yes, 308 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:57,200 they did. My mom was really young, but you know she uh, 309 00:20:57,319 --> 00:21:00,599 she had a lot of kids, and so she divorced and then remarried, 310 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:06,160 and my dad remarried and had kids and we stayed in all Passo for 311 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,400 all my childhood. So I went to Clinton High School and it was a 312 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,160 very small class of like sixty two, and it was it was great. 313 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,640 You know, everyone knew everyone, and I loved my childhood. My stepdad, 314 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,359 John's one who really raised me, and he was just great. He 315 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,119 encouraged me to go to college and do good and stay away from the cops. 316 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,880 And you know, if you get in trouble, I'll be there, 317 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:33,359 you know. So that was good or bad sometimes. And there's a lot 318 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,960 of kids. Like was it just kids running around at all time? Yeah, 319 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,839 you know back then, you know, it's gonna be funny. We 320 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,680 didn't have cell phones. You know, I'm fifty three, you know, 321 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:45,440 I graduated eighty six, So there was no cell phones. You know, 322 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,480 when the street lights came on, that's when you came in. You knew 323 00:21:49,519 --> 00:21:52,960 where my brothers were because their bikes were in front of their friends houses. 324 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,799 We didn't lock our doors. I mean the neighbors sat out at night and 325 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,680 my parents would drink with the other neighbors and we'd have fireworks in our cul 326 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:04,480 de sack. Really good childhood, you know. I mean I didn't get 327 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,079 into the back crowd. You know, my brothers did, so I was 328 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,880 the good child. And so my brother's always resented me. Well, my 329 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,880 younger brother, I'm really close with him. He's a year younger, and 330 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,119 he got in trouble and my dad John loved me because I was the only 331 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,480 girl. So I got away with everything that I could, and so there 332 00:22:21,519 --> 00:22:26,599 was always that battle of the siblings. And no farming, No, no, 333 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,240 why why am I stuck on farming? I just I love to rescue 334 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:34,240 dogs, and I just we have the property now, and my neighbors have 335 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:40,279 cows and horses and goats, and I'm not too advanced in that whole area 336 00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:42,400 of like big animals. So I'm like, I'll I'll keep it small and 337 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:47,720 chickens and goats and you know, maybe a goat, but ducks and dogs 338 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,519 I can handle. Did you grow up with animals? Yeah, we had 339 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:53,079 a lot of dogs and cats, and uh, we actually raised chickens at 340 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,079 one point, but my dad gave him away to our FA team in high 341 00:22:57,079 --> 00:23:02,720 school, so it was in My friends had grew cotton and they picked the 342 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:06,839 con on weekends and they had the big tractors. So I always had agriculture 343 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,960 around me and I like to help out, so it always stayed in my 344 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,799 blood. And where do you go to college? You tip? Oh? 345 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,440 Nice? Yeah? I went there for a year and then found the union, 346 00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:19,200 and I thought it was so great that could be on a scholarship and 347 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,640 party every day until I got kicked out because I wasn't going to class. 348 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:26,839 What's the union? It's where everyone met where. Yeah, that's where you 349 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,559 know, the pool tables in the bar. I'm like, wow, school 350 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,519 is so much fun. And I learned the hard way that you know, 351 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:37,400 I lost my scholarship. But then after Eddie passed, I went back to 352 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,160 college and got my bachelor's degree in medical administration. So what had you been 353 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,720 going for a first? Just business? It was just you know, you 354 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:48,079 didn't know what you're going to do, so you always take the business route. 355 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,680 And so I assume people that always go back like hadn't weight on you 356 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,920 your whole life. It did, Yeah, it did. Because when Eddie 357 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,720 and I were having our girls It was agreed that I would stay home while 358 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:02,720 Eddie toured, and I was okay with that because I saw how long he 359 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:04,799 was going to be on the road, and I didn't want someone else raising 360 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,799 my kids. You know, that was important to me that I was going 361 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,480 to be home and be there for them while Eddie was touring, and then 362 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,279 when he would come home. You know, then I made I made the 363 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:17,799 home ready, you know, that we could all spend time together, and 364 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:21,359 everything was right for Eddie to enjoy the girls, you know, whether school 365 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,119 events or something I planned. It was a planner to get him to make 366 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,799 all the events. I thought you were going to say, I wanted our 367 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,920 kids to go to college. I tried, so I wanted to leave by 368 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,920 example. I well, you know, I wish they would have. I 369 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,240 mean I did ask them to go, but you know, out at the 370 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,519 same time, I told them, you know, if you're going to waste 371 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:45,039 your money, then don't go because you were oh, I mean, it 372 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:49,720 was expensive and they both you know, they're smart girls. But even college. 373 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,480 You know, I think at that time, when I was young, 374 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,039 I wasn't ready for it. You know, the discipline of studying and doing 375 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:00,759 papers and being in class. I was interested in make money, you know, 376 00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,440 and having a job and paying for my car, and that's what I 377 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:07,240 like to do. And then I was a dancer for a minor baseball team 378 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,519 in al Paso, so that's where Eddie would go and watch me all the 379 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,480 time. And then I was getting ready to trial for the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. 380 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:18,720 And two weeks earlier, I was getting ready to get the road trip 381 00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:22,160 and go to Dallas and I found out I was pregnant by Eddie. Oh 382 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,160 yeah, so I was like, dude, you're gonna love me now? 383 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,640 Is there any resentment? And you're heard for that looking kind of looking back 384 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,960 after all of these yeah, I mean you know that. I mean, 385 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:34,119 you know, I talked to Rebel all the time. I had her on 386 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,559 my show, and she was a Dallas Calboy cheerleader and I've always I've loved 387 00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:42,119 that group. Dallas Cowboys is my team, you know, so when I 388 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,920 see them, you know, I would have been great. But I got 389 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,200 two beautiful kids out of it and a family and traveled the world and lived 390 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,920 this life. Yeah, so the good you know, it wasn't really a 391 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,160 bad thing, but you know, life was great to me after that, 392 00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,799 so it was all good. I know this story, this has probably been 393 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:04,559 told on a million podcasts, but you how did you guys meet? I 394 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,039 don't know, we've been on a blind date, okay. Yeah. I 395 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,680 was such a bit when I you know, when I was dating in high 396 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,519 school or it was after high school, okay, yeah, I was graduate 397 00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:18,640 eighty six. My best friend knew Eddie's best friend, and they're like, 398 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,960 hey, you know, we want to get y'all together and see if y'all 399 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,119 would you know, want a date or just meet. And I was like, 400 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,160 oh my gosh, if he's gonna be like a drag or anything like, 401 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,640 just we'll meet and then if it's if he's bad, then we'll just 402 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,039 bounce and go to another club, you know. And so we got together, 403 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,119 and of course Eddie was late like two hours, and I was already 404 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:42,960 dancing. Yeah, Mexican time, literally Mexican time, and I think I 405 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,400 was already dancing with other guys. I was like, I'm not waiting around 406 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,319 for him, you know. And I we couldn't drink back then. We're 407 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:52,440 still under age, so you know, all we want to do is me 408 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,799 and my girlfriend's go go dance and Eddie showed up, and my girlfriend Tina, 409 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,799 she was just like, oh, what do you think, like just 410 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,079 kind of gave me his eyes, and I'm like, I thought he was 411 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,519 the most beautiful man that was walked the earth. Because when I was in 412 00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:10,960 high school, we were in the kind of a country atmosphere. So the 413 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,240 guys were very clean shaven, short haircuts, you know, off the collar. 414 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,480 Um had had their button up shirt, you know, very strict dress 415 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,839 code. And when Eddie walked in, his hair was like passed his shoulders. 416 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,839 And he had muscles like my friends never had muscles. I didn't know 417 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,640 what they were. And he had like the tightest jeans and cowboy boots and 418 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,480 I was like, oh my god, Like he's gorgeous. Yeah he was. 419 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:41,039 Yeah, and so he said and he was he was going to, 420 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,000 uh, I'm gonna go walk around the club and I'm like fine, whatever, 421 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,240 and um he came back around and goes, okay, can we dance? 422 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,480 And we dance? And I were is that, like I'm gonna see, 423 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,079 like okay, he was out. He was sculping out the club. 424 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,400 You can't can't work a worker, yeah, you know, but he was 425 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,240 just actually said he was nervous he didn't know like where to start or to 426 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,400 ask me to, you know, dance or just start talking. Of course, 427 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,160 you can't talk in a club because it's so loud, you know. 428 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,880 But we danced and I broke her for you that night because I was supposed 429 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,440 to be home by like two o'clock. Lights on the street came out, 430 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:19,559 yeah and me and we sat in the parking lot to like maybe four or 431 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:23,039 four thirty in the morning, talking and just fell in love with him. 432 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,000 So funny story. When I got home, I was panicking because I was 433 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,759 like, oh my god, my car's gonna be taken away. I'm gonna 434 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,559 I'm gonna be in so much trouble. Well, when I went to bed, 435 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:37,000 no one was up, so I parked my car like kind of off 436 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,519 from the house. I could just walk to the house. And next morning 437 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:42,960 they're like, hey, you know, what time do you get home? 438 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,119 And I was like, I had to be honest because it was gonna come 439 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:48,920 out sooner or later. I'm like, you know, I was late. 440 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,480 Well, my mom started asking me, well, who would you mean. 441 00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:53,000 I said, I met this great guy. He's so cute, Mom, 442 00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:56,759 Like he had muscles, like the best muscles ever. In the long hair, 443 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,640 like, I'm just in love with him, and she goes, well, 444 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,039 what's his name? And I said that's something guerrero and he's like a 445 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,440 wrestler and I was like, and I can't stand wrestling, but he was 446 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,519 really cute. And she was, well, I know the Guerreros from Alpaso, 447 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,839 right, And I was like, yeah, I guess his family's in 448 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,720 wrestling or something. She goes, your grandfather used to make his dad's wrestling 449 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:23,240 robe and boots, and you and Eddie's playing the playpen when when we would 450 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,839 have him, you know, their babysitting in the kids. So Eddie's dad 451 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:30,480 brought him to be in the playpan while my grandfather was fitting him for robes 452 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:34,599 and trying on his boots. That's amazing. So it's just been a funny 453 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,200 story that how my friends thought that they were doing a blind dape and reality 454 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,680 we already met. It was a second plan. Yeah, yeah, really 455 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:47,599 really cool story. The shows are ad free over on Patreon right now. 456 00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:51,519 We're going to take a quick ad break and we'll be right back. You 457 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,920 said you didn't like wrestling. I guess that's the question, right. Yeah. 458 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,119 I hated it, well because you know it was part of the culture 459 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,279 there, right, yeah, oh absolutely, but you know what Household of 460 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,000 Brothers. Wrestling was on all the time, and I'd be, oh my 461 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:06,960 god, can we watch something else? You know, I want wanted to 462 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,079 watch figure skating or cheerlean or whatever. But if it's on all the time, 463 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:12,599 it never was just like fine, I just want to watch the TV. 464 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,599 It's just a guy sport. That was just ridiculous, like didn't interest 465 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,400 me, okay, And then um we dated for three years and going to 466 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,440 the matches and being around Eddie's mom. Tell me about the first the first 467 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,640 time you go to a match. I don't know what the hell was going 468 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:33,440 on. Where it was at the Colosseum. His dad promoted Gory Guerrero promoted 469 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,880 in Alpasso, okay, and his dad brought all the wrestlers in the Von 470 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,920 Eric's um. He brought in Roddy Piper like it was huge, which is 471 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,319 better than going to one word. There's sixty people. Yea really yeah. 472 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,319 And his whole family, like his sister, took tickets. His mom was 473 00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:53,960 in the concession. It was a very big business for the family. And 474 00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,880 you went with him or went with some girlfriends. No, I went with 475 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,440 him. We brought one of my brothers with us, and so I can 476 00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,240 have someone to sit with. Cosettie was in the back and Eddie was very 477 00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:10,640 protective of the business, which I now I respect that because he was didn't 478 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,160 want to give me all the secrets of what was going on. But I 479 00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:15,960 didn't. I didn't understand why. You know, I knew there was a 480 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,599 winner and a loser, but I didn't understand all the theatrics, and you 481 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,119 know, I thought the moves were really cool and stuff, but I had 482 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,440 a lot of questions. I don't understand what the purpose of this is except 483 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,319 that there's a winner and a loser. And there was like guys in cute 484 00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:33,240 shorts, and I knew the von Eicks, so to see the von Ers 485 00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:36,480 went oh my god, like they're so you know, they're they're so great 486 00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:40,640 and I know who they are. But then I thought, well, I 487 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,640 mean, are they are? They give me worth you know, having a 488 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,119 crush on But you know, it was just funny because I meet them and 489 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,839 I'm like, oh, it's nice to meet you. But then Rye Piper 490 00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:51,000 and you know, these other wrestlers, I'm like, oh, hi, 491 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,799 now, I'm like, what a fool you are, because these were legends. 492 00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:56,799 You know. I was just like the girlfriend. There's just like being 493 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,720 there with Eddie just to hold his hand. Yeah, And was he a 494 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:05,720 star that day or was he? No? He worked, Um, he 495 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:07,680 worked the back, you know, he was helping his dad. No, 496 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,599 he was in the back, you know, um, probably in guerrilla, 497 00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:15,839 getting the guys ready town and when they're up and he set up the ring, 498 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:19,000 broke it down, you know, helped his dad with whatever was going 499 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:20,720 on. I think he would want to take you to the one he was 500 00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,680 wrestling at right. Well, eventually he was starting to wrestle in what is 501 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,599 which is like across the border from a Passo and um, and so going 502 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,279 to those matches were crazy. I mean, just an atmosphere of you know, 503 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,599 of course he had a following because he was a good at all and 504 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,680 meeting all the wrestlers there, and I was going every Thursday or Sunday, 505 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:46,519 and so I was getting very familiar with who the wrestlers were, and um, 506 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,799 watching Eddie you know, prepare and he'd work out and you know, 507 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,920 we'd drive over there, and then I started kind of asking more questions, 508 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,519 like well, how's this guy bleeding all of a sudden, like, you 509 00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:00,920 know, how how is you know this guy so sweet bay stage? But 510 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,880 then he's such an asshole in the ring, you know. And he was 511 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,519 just like in time, you will know. That's all he would tell me 512 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:08,839 because he didn't want us to break up. And then I was going to 513 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:16,759 go and tell everything. I know. Yeah, and what was your like 514 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,680 did you make I guess what was your position at the wrestling shows? Was 515 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,519 it? Did you make some friends with some other girlfriends or no? If 516 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:29,880 anything? Eddie's mom taught me everything that I know today. You sat with 517 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,119 her a lot many times because Eddie would train in the backyard. They had 518 00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:36,240 a wrestling ring, and his dad, when he was alive, would sit 519 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:40,079 on the lawn chair and train Eddie and his friends for hours and hours. 520 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,200 I mean, his dad put them through a whole training regime. What was 521 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,599 he like casually sitting back in a launch chair in the shape in the shape 522 00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:51,559 and they were in the sun working out. I mean they worked out for 523 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:53,880 a long time. But they had a table in the living room that looked 524 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,400 down to the ring, and I would sit there and and his mom had 525 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,960 very frank conversations with me about what it's going to be like to see Eddie 526 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,640 and what is because I hadn't gone yet, and she's like, I want 527 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,239 to prepare you. You know. There's gonna be women they're gonna want to 528 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,119 be with Eddie. There's gonna be women that are gonna hang out by his 529 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,719 car when he gets back to his car. There's gonna be people that don't 530 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,679 like you because you walk in with Eddie. And then you're gonna meet some 531 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,760 great people in the wrestling industry. And when I got pregnant, she already 532 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,440 knew, like because she were really close. So when we were hanging out, 533 00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:31,360 she was like, are you okay? You know? And I was 534 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,840 like, yeah, why you know? And then I think, like a 535 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,280 few weeks later I found out that I was pregnant. She's like, I 536 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,440 knew you're pregnant, you know. And she goes, and now we're gonna 537 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,519 have a very serious conversation. And she was a good Christian lady, and 538 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,920 you know, and she just very frank with me. She goes, I 539 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,119 wish I had someone to help me when I was you know, your age, 540 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,679 And she told me all the pros and cons of being a wrestling wife 541 00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:58,280 and being a girlfriend. And now you have a baby that you're gonna bring 542 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,480 into this world that's gonna not gonna be very friendly to you. You're going 543 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:05,400 to be raising the baby all by yourself. Eddie maybe with you, but 544 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,159 he's never gonna be home because he's on the road. Is that the first 545 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:14,440 time you had you heard that or had that realization? No, that was 546 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,079 she made me. Really, she was the one who made me realize what 547 00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:21,519 I was getting into. And she's like, you can either have this baby 548 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,840 and not be with Eddie and not have the stress of him never being home, 549 00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:30,440 or you're gonna love him so much that you're willing to accept all the 550 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:34,639 bad for the love that you have for him. And did you did you 551 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,800 go home to your family, like did you take time to like think of 552 00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:42,679 about that or um? I mean, of course it was in my mind. 553 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,159 But I was in love with Eddie, you know, I mean we 554 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,880 dated for almost three and a half years. He was my everything. And 555 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,519 you know what's funny is that he would the girls were always at his house, 556 00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:54,599 Like on the door they had wrought iron because his mom had to have 557 00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:59,480 wrought iron because the fans would trying always you know, iron like rot iron 558 00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:02,800 fans around on their house. Yeah, I'll passo because we have gags. 559 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,519 You had wrought iron because it would protect your front door. No one could 560 00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,800 get into your windows or break in, like bars on the windows. So 561 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,800 you know, sometimes Eddie and I would come home and there'd be a girl 562 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,760 like ringing the doorbell, and he'd be like, oh, hey, so 563 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,559 and so he had a lot of girlfriends, let me tell you, Like 564 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:23,000 he was a jiggalow, you know. And of course it stopped when we 565 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,679 were dating, but you know, girls still they knew where we lived, 566 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,199 you know, And so I knew kind of what she was telling me. 567 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,920 You know, I need to prepare if I'm gonna love Eddie, it's gonna 568 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,239 be for everything that this restling life is going to bring me. And there 569 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,360 were some really hard times, you know, but I always had her to 570 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,800 go to and talk to. And she was like, you know, the 571 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,880 wife is going to be the single parent and she's gonna make all the decisions 572 00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:51,280 and you're gonna run the whole house while you know, Eddie's on the road. 573 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,960 And I thought, wow, that's really cool, Like I'm gonna have 574 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,880 control of everything and having kids and being alone. It was a really hard 575 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,840 life. It was also good too, and we had provided a living for 576 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,960 us, and I mean that's a full time job obviously. Yeah, it 577 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,280 was what sucked, is it? You know Eddie would call and he'd be 578 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,679 like him and die malinko and you know Cris ban Wana. They would be 579 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,760 like a dinner and they went to some fancy restaurant they had like a car 580 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,559 service and he's like, what are you doing. Well, Shaw's throwing up 581 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,639 right now and Sharon has the shits of diarrhea. So I'm cleaning that up 582 00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:28,639 and I have to change sheets and he's like, okay, well I'll touch 583 00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,840 you, like yeah, so but he was good about it. You know, 584 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,599 do you have like in those moments thinking back while that's I know it's 585 00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:39,400 like a big long time, but do you have like moments of remembering like 586 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,480 there, I want not I want to do something else, but like I 587 00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:49,880 know, there's I don't know that Dallas, you know it was there those 588 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,480 times, or the Dallas Cowboy cheerleader or drumming, or even starting a small 589 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,840 business or like not doing a podcast, but whatever the equivalent of was back 590 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,559 then. I mean, I think in the moment when I was married, 591 00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:04,480 and you know, we went through a lot of hard times with Eddie's addictions 592 00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:07,840 and alcoholism. Um, there were times that I did wish that I didn't 593 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,800 have this life because it was hard and I was handling a lot of things 594 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,280 on my own. But if the whole big picture, I loved wrestling. 595 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,719 That was my That was a big love for me because I learned to respect 596 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,519 it and it was a way that it supported our family. And Eddie was 597 00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:27,920 very good at it, so to see how when he would perform, I 598 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,119 was very proud of him and I love to watch him, and you know, 599 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,199 and it was a great life. But yeah, there's always that, 600 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,679 you know, like when you're home for like two weeks and Eddie's and you 601 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,400 know, overseas and you can't talk to him because we didn't have cell phones 602 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,800 and stuff. Then you couldn't talk to him until he reached a hotel that 603 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,440 you had a landline. Um. Yeah, you know, I didn't have 604 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,079 a lot of friends because they didn't understand our schedule or our life. And 605 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,079 my friends, you know, had different lives. They were single and you 606 00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:57,000 know, did their own things. So and I had kids already, So 607 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000 yeah, there is a difference of you know, living and lifestyles. But 608 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,360 I don't regret because I was a good mom. I you know, I 609 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,360 took care of them and they were healthy and they were very active in school. 610 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,920 So I was proud that I could be there for everything. The shows 611 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,920 are ad free over on Patreon. Let's take a quick ad break right now, 612 00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:19,599 and we'll be right back. So you had said that you were on 613 00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:23,679 TV with I don't know the storylines exactly. Yeah, it was the dominant 614 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:30,480 child custody case Eddie against Ray at WWE, and so that was in two 615 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:32,840 thousand started in two thousand and four, and then they kind of worked it 616 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,199 a little bit and then started getting bigger and bigger, and then of course 617 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,039 Vince, you know, it was bringing the kids in and the wives and 618 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:43,960 let's make this real shit over here, you know. And that was your 619 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,159 first was that your first time doing anything? Very first time, and that 620 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,239 was very I don't I didn't like to be in front of the camera because 621 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,719 that's not what I ever did you know professionally was what you knew? Yeah, 622 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,840 and you know, and Eddie was just like, we just want you 623 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,800 to have just a small cam backstage. I'm going to yell at you whatever 624 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,599 the thing was and was scary as it. You know. They would say, 625 00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:08,880 Okay, we need the girls to cry at this queue, you know, 626 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:10,840 and I was like, well, that's not going to happen. Like 627 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,880 they can't. That's too much pressure. Man. My girls were like pros. 628 00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,559 They're like just start crying. I'm like, oh my god, who 629 00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:21,679 are you Were they excited to do that at the time. Oh, they 630 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,639 loved it. They loved and they paid them, you know, so they 631 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:29,440 thought they're already making living. Yeah, but um, well were they Well 632 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,840 I guess they were probably running around backstage in general before that, right, 633 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,480 Yeah. All the kids back there, you know at that age, you 634 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,599 know, like Dominic and my girls and all the other rests who lost kids 635 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:44,519 were do they make Chris ben Wat's kids were there, you know. So 636 00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:46,960 I mean it's like this club they had and we really never took care of 637 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,719 them. Backstage. They had their whole they had their own little click and 638 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,400 they kind of went off and did their own thing, and um it would 639 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,760 see them like in the corridors, you know, running around and people would 640 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,039 give them like popcorn from the concession stand, and so they really had a 641 00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:06,440 good a good time backstage. But when they we started bringing in Dominic, 642 00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:08,639 you know, he had the main part of the storyline and he was just 643 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,880 a natural. Really he did a good job. But then we had Angie 644 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,639 who was raised wife and we had raised other daughter, and you know, 645 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,199 we just kind of went blindfolded into it. And um, but I loved 646 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,119 it too. Did you feel any any pressure? Yeah, because if I 647 00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:29,119 did something wrong, I had to go home with Eddie and like hear it, 648 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,159 because Eddie is such a perfectionist. You know, I told myself, 649 00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:35,880 I don't want this to be in the way of our marriage because I don't 650 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,599 need this stress. Like if you want to find someone else to play your 651 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:42,119 wife or do that, you know, I'm okay with that. And um, 652 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,840 you know, because Eddie had a lot of you know, other storylines 653 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,800 with other women, so that was very like, it's just another storyline to 654 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,800 me, because no, it wouldn't be realness. They actually see you, 655 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,360 you know with the child custody case. And um, I said okay, 656 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,519 And I loved it. I mean, they gave me, you know, 657 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,119 lines to memorize and I was, you know, the camera went on, 658 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:04,480 I was, I was good at it, you know, I wasn't nervous. 659 00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:07,440 They weren't nervous. Yeah, I wasn't, you know, I just 660 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,159 in the leading up to it, Yeah, I mean, it's just, 661 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,840 you know, Eddie was there. We all joke. You know. They 662 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,159 made me feel very comfortable. I knew Vince really well, so they kind 663 00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,400 of just you know, we kind of knew what was going on. Of 664 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,760 course, now going live for the pay per view itself, you know, 665 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,280 and then having to go out there and run out to throw Eddie off the 666 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,559 ladder and running out there, it wasn't just walking. That was very overwhelming 667 00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:36,880 to me. That was I was like, I'm going to trip over my 668 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,280 heels and get get in the ring, and I had like so many seconds 669 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,440 to get to the ladder to stop Eddie. That was very I don't think 670 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,199 I slept a few nights before that. But it worked out great, you 671 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,079 know, and everyone was just having a good time, so it was good. 672 00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:58,280 And then so the transition to then Eddie's past, can you kind of 673 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,760 tell me that story? Yeah, Yeah, Eddie passed in two thousand and 674 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,559 five in November, and so I inducted him to the Hall of Fame in 675 00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:09,840 two thousand and six, and uh, I did that, and time kind 676 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,800 of went by with maybe like six or seven months and then uh, Johnny's 677 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,760 called. You know, hey kid, you know how they going look like 678 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,960 you have an impression of Johnny? How can you not? I know, 679 00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:23,719 of course obvious and um he was you know, checking, He always checked 680 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,599 on us and hey, you want to come out and like do some you 681 00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:30,519 know work for us, you know, for the shows and just a little 682 00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:34,760 bit you know here and there. So I mean, but who's Uh is 683 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,800 that just a random call from Johnny A's or do you think like looking back, 684 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,280 do you think they were brewing it around or had you said, hey, 685 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,079 I'm kinda like I don't know what to do with my life or anything 686 00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,639 or um, it wasn't ever spoken like what am I gonna do? Um? 687 00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:50,840 You know, we were we were taking care of by Wiebe and you 688 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,880 know, he took care of the kids. You know, that was the 689 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,199 main thing. You know, set up a college fund and that was really 690 00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:59,119 helpful. Um, you know, we were we were okay, you know 691 00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:00,960 where I didn't need to look for a job, you know, and I 692 00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,400 was going to go back to school, you know, that was one of 693 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,159 my plans. But I'm sure It was a conversation because they want to keep 694 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,960 Eddie the storyline a little bit longer because with this passing, of course, 695 00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:14,639 that would bring some more viewers. You know, it's all about the ratings, 696 00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:16,559 and you bring Eddie's name and the ratings shot up, you know, 697 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,119 so many points or whatever it was. And they said, just come to 698 00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:23,199 the you know, come to the shows maybe for two months. Let's work 699 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,360 with you know, Jericho and you know ben Wa Batista, and let's do 700 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,039 some stuff just to you know, keep Eddie's legacy going. And with you 701 00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:35,960 being there, I'll make it really personal and we know you can memorize lines, 702 00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:38,000 and you know, you were really great with the camera, so let's 703 00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:40,159 try it. I said, you know, so, I said, two 704 00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:44,519 months. That's good. Yeah. I mean my question is like it's just 705 00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:47,199 like Twitter, right, like we can look at that both ways, right, 706 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,880 Like we can look at that like oh, they're using Eddie's name, 707 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,119 but you can also look like fuck like when you say it like that, 708 00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:55,159 like let's keep his legacy alive. That's how that works. Yeah, that's 709 00:44:55,159 --> 00:45:02,239 how it was. But the bash and I got on social media and people 710 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,679 talking to me walking into the arena. They were so cruel to me because, 711 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,920 oh, you're only there because you're Eddie's wife. Yes, I was 712 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:15,599 Eddie's wife, and you know they're using me. But at the same time, 713 00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:20,320 you know, I could earn a paycheck to support myself and the girls, 714 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,239 and so it was a very you know, it was a lot of 715 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,960 like up and down for me because I didn't want to insult the industry because 716 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:31,199 I love the wrestling industry and I didn't want to bring any disrespect to it. 717 00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:35,920 But if I was able to do this job and they were happy with 718 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,039 it and every and everything was going away as planned, then damn, I'm 719 00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:43,199 going to do this, you know. And I liked it. But it 720 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,639 was only for two months, you know, because I had the girls at 721 00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:47,599 home, so I had family watched the girls. I was traveling once a 722 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:52,440 week, and things started really getting good, you know, where they were 723 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,320 talking about you know, being a manager or you could you know, go 724 00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,280 with edge And when things started taking off where they were using me anymore, 725 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,079 and I was on TV all the time and Vince was like, can we 726 00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:05,679 try this with you? You know, you want to do this, and 727 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,840 it just took off and I was loving it, and they're like are you 728 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,000 okay? And I'm like, yeah, it's good. You know, two 729 00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:14,320 months will be over in no time. Well, then I was offered a 730 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,360 contract let's try a year, and then Edge came into the picture, and 731 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,199 then I was doing you know, the manager stuff for Ron SmackDown, and 732 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,599 I was like a little kid. I was like, oh my gosh, 733 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,760 I'm actually doing this. So I loved it. Do you remember a time 734 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,320 when you were when it clicked, Like when you're like when it clicked, 735 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,239 I don't know when you're like, oh fuck, I am good at this. 736 00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:37,800 Um, I don't think. I think I was so worried about what 737 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,880 I had to do each night that I wasn't enjoying the journey. It's probably 738 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,320 maybe like five years. Five years. Yeah, that was like, oh 739 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,239 maybe three months or three who weeks? Well, because you know, I 740 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,519 wasn't asked to do access either with WWE, or I wasn't involved in a 741 00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:55,960 lot of the main like WrestleMania moments and stuff. It was still the guys 742 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,360 that were doing it. But when they started using me in fans or she's 743 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,320 saying, oh my god, I love your character, like you're such a 744 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,679 bitch, you know, like you're irritating me with your excuse me, you 745 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,639 know, and all it just started. I started accepting that I do have 746 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,960 a place here and I love it and I'm going to do my best at 747 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,440 it. So it took a long time for me to realize for me that 748 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,679 you know, I was doing a good a good thing, and excuse me 749 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,320 came from real life. I can only assume, Oh yeah, I forgot 750 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,880 a promo one night, I actually forgot my lines. Vince changed my promo 751 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,079 like three or four times, maybe five, within like forty five minutes going 752 00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:37,519 live, and I was in a wheelchair. I was doing the gimmick of 753 00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:40,480 the wheelchair and Teddy Long was pushing me. We were in Gorilla and they 754 00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:44,480 gave me my first promo and I got it done. I was ready to 755 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,639 go, oh no, there's revision. They bring me another one. After 756 00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:51,000 the fourth one, Teddy Long goes, You're gonna fuck this up, aren't 757 00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:52,440 you? And I was like, yeah, I think tonight it's going to 758 00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:57,039 be a good night to do that. Because he saw I was overwhelmed. 759 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,440 I mean, my promos were almost two pages. I mean, it was 760 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,639 just so much to do. So I mean, that's your filler word for 761 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,719 I don't know what's happening, right, Yeah, but was that a filler 762 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,400 word at home with the kids? No? No, I never gets it 763 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,039 at home. Okay, No, I assume maybe that was no. I 764 00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:15,320 mean, and I forgot my promo And so the fans are very smart. 765 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,480 In the front row, I'm on stage, I'm looking like a deer, 766 00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:22,639 like I'm trying to like search for wherever I would begin, and they were 767 00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:25,000 so cruelers fans like throwing fingers at me, and they were like, just 768 00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:29,960 tell me horrible things like we told you don't belong here, you forgot your 769 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,920 lines, go home. And I just yelled out, excuse me, like 770 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:37,519 at my bitchy voice, and they roared like they got really mad that I 771 00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:40,039 said something back and I said it again. And then when I went back 772 00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:43,639 to Gorilla, I finished it. It was a horrible I mean, it 773 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,679 was the worst job I've ever done. And I went back to Gorilla and 774 00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:50,719 their writers are like, we're gonna try that next week. I think we 775 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,760 have something here, and so it worked. That's also nice that in wrestling, 776 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,199 like for me, as an agent or a coach or whatever, I 777 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,880 can sit back and be like that's a thing, and you wouldn't even know, 778 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,320 right, you were just out there. But you know there's people outside 779 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,519 of you and outside of your body who can pinpoint the things that will hit. 780 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,360 And so they would write excuse me at the very beginning and just for 781 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,039 me to start with that. And then I when I left, you know, 782 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,079 I created that. So I trademarked it really quick and yeah, business 783 00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:27,840 and marketing. Yeah, and so it's lasted. Gosh, it's almost man, 784 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,400 it's like seventeen years later. I'm still using it. Yeah. Hey, 785 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,679 the shows are ad free over on Patreon. Let's take a quick ad 786 00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:38,239 break. We'll be right back. You and Nila are together now? Yes, 787 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:44,840 and how's that relationship? I love Lila Sometimes I just look at her 788 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,440 like who are you? Because I mean, especially her Twitter interaction when I 789 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,800 read her tweets. She's so creative and funny and I love her to pieces 790 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:58,320 like we just grew to have a great respect for each other. We wish 791 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,800 that I in aw I love being there, I love the company. I 792 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,559 just wish I could be more of my character there, you know, because 793 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,679 there's so many promos I could see at that moment that I want to do 794 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:14,400 and either time short or I'm not utilized in that same way. So we 795 00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:16,079 talk about that, you know, you know, I'm sorry, you know, 796 00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:19,320 we can't use you more. You know, I'm sorry you didn't get 797 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,079 to do your promo because I would ask, you know, my agent, 798 00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:22,679 like, can't do a promo tonight? You know. So that's like the 799 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:28,840 most frustrating thing. But that aside working with her and seeing how she's just 800 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,760 breaking these barriers, you know, with her the truth in her lifestyle and 801 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,079 who she is. I'm really proud to stand next to her and just say 802 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,440 this is my friend. That's great, Yeah, of course, and it's 803 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,360 fun for you. I'd imagine to continue that life you get like, you 804 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,719 know, like aw is great because it's just like oh if you know, 805 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,559 once a week on the road and so it's like we can live our real 806 00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:51,519 lives. We can farm if we want to, but then we can, 807 00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:53,679 you know, we can get a sprinkle of what the lifestyle is. Right. 808 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,599 Yeah. When I saw that when I went to ABE for a couple 809 00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:01,440 of appearances and they're telling me their skeed Joel and was talking to Tony and 810 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,559 he's like, yeah, we only just work once a week, and we 811 00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,079 were in Jacksonville during the time during COVID, and he's like, you'll come 812 00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:10,079 out like every two weeks and we'll spend like four days here. And I'm 813 00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:15,800 like, yes, I've never heard of this schedule before. This is crazy, 814 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,480 and so that attracted me and I respect the schedule. And Tony's so 815 00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:24,320 great with shuttling us like to the arena. Like in WW you have your 816 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,440 own rental car and get yourself there and on time, you know, and 817 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,719 then take yourself to the next city. So that lifestyle was very different to 818 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:37,079 come here and see how how um we're so spoiled we really are. And 819 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,599 when the kids, you know, argue, you know, they complain, 820 00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:43,280 I'm like, oh, you need to stop there, because you have no 821 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,760 idea how bad this could be. Well, wrestling has always changed and evolved, 822 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,519 yeah, and this is this is this is the next step of like, 823 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,960 yeah, getting the guy, the guys and the girls and whatever, 824 00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:58,800 trying to you know, getting them to shuttle to blazes and having their hotels 825 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,360 ready for them. Like like we've evolved. It's wrestling has left the the 826 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,360 warez fields and it's it's really arenas and some capacities and yeah, I mean, 827 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,920 you know, a lot of kids didn't realize it in WWE. You 828 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,679 know, they only paid for your air to get to work and your hotel 829 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:21,719 and rental cars where your own responsibility and food, you know, Tony kahan 830 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,880 is I mean he provides food for us sometimes at the hotels. That's such 831 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,840 a respectful thing that he shows to us, not only as his wrestlers, 832 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,360 but as human beings, like hey, I'm going to feed you tonight. 833 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,480 So I don't take that lightly, the little thing, but it goes along 834 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,079 way absolutely. So you know how he you know, has taken care of 835 00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:45,400 us is speaks volumes of the heart that he has and how grateful we should 836 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,360 be to be in this company. Yeah. Well, I appreciate all your 837 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:52,400 success. I appreciate it everything you've done and you do. And I think 838 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:58,239 it's still so cool that you're you're you're still doing it, you're having fun, 839 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,840 You're such a positive person. It's so great positivity. I don't know 840 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:07,719 if that came to you. I don't know where does that We'll leave with 841 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,920 that, like, where does that mentality? Because I really appreciate and enjoy 842 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:15,679 your positivity. Thank you. I think after Eddie's passing, I really learned 843 00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:20,639 how life was very precious and how it could change overnight. And so we 844 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,760 have a choice of how we're gonna live our day. And I have a 845 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,400 lot of stuff, personal stuff that goes on, you know, when we 846 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,159 get home and I have to leave at the door because our days are long 847 00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:31,920 at work, and we have a choice to either make the best of our 848 00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:36,840 day or we can make it a shitty day. And I choose the good 849 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,960 day. Yeah, so I believe in it. Yeah, awesome, Thanks 850 00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:47,960 Cale, I appreciate it you. 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This 893 00:56:45,079 --> 00:57:07,360 has been the art of wrestling. Colcabana, I'm Colecabana. Thanks. But 894 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:14,559 what's scary people? No, guys, you guys, Oh my room? 895 00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:24,679 Oh okay, so don't worry about it. They do a lot of interviews, 896 00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:37,320 not really either. He's doing something. It's TV and c Yeah, 897 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:43,639 TV sounds like gold be a great time to do it. But then quiet, 898 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:49,960 yeah, that's how I feel, and like I feel like an hour 899 00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:53,960 gap or whatever. It is. Still it's hard to find even though we 900 00:57:54,039 --> 00:58:00,400 have all the time of the world, we've been right forget it general. 901 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:19,400 That's a cool LAMI zoom it's a stable in the podcast, that's what it's 902 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,000 zoom. But I mean that what's a different zoom. It's called yeah, 903 00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:28,559 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um Yeah, it's like a known 904 00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:34,039 audio recorder. Okay, I just put it's just to know how much time 905 00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:39,079 I've been doing. Okay, Hi, Vicky, let's get some levels on 906 00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:43,880 you. Testing one, two, three testing. That's good. I don't 907 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,880 know what did you have for breakfast this morning? I had a meal of 908 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:52,440 a meal prepping of chicken, sausage and eggs and a slice of bacon. 909 00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:55,280 Very nice. Okay, I think that's good. Um, you got a 910 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,440 meal, You got a your own meal prepping or I did it. But 911 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,800 I went to have fit live foods. I'm under Bryce's training. I went 912 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,360 there in Orlando and got a whole bunch of meals for the road, and 913 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,920 they're pretty good. Okay, I'm not I don't hate them. Okay. 914 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,559 Him some probiotic that's disgusting. Like I thought I was gonna throw up all 915 00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:15,920 over my room in this morning. He's like, it's gonna taste bad. 916 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,599 I'm like, how bad can it be? Right? I put it with 917 00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:22,280 water. I'm gonna bitch at him today powder I need to put something else 918 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,519 in there. So yeah, he's trying to keep all my sugars down and 919 00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:29,519 everything. I wish I had someone looking after me, like Oh that's all 920 00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:32,079 right, all right, I'm gonna get you to talk in this microphone the 921 00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:37,239 whole time, and that's our conversation. Here we are on another beautiful day 922 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:37,559 of aw wrestling,