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Molly, you come out and play
you smile day And this is Molly May

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a bad papod another nice stuff with
me, Molly make me yeah hat Molly

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May. And today it feels really
fucking good to be excited. Um.

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I haven't been excited, like genuinely
excited about shit and what seems like,

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um way too long. But I'm
super excited to have our first little Pandy

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Quarantine interview time via the Internet.
Thank you Internet. My dear friend Molly

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and Nicholson is with us today.
UM, and I would like you to

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follow along in your instant gram hymnal
at Amalia Nicholson. We are talking fashion,

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wardrobe, mental health, fucking plus
size joy and taking it to the

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internet. Um. She's a producer, she's a model, she's a creator,

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she's a wine enthusiast. She's a
book reviewer with a tiny mic.

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She is the brain behind the hashtag
you love during our pandemic of hashtag oot

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distancing live from Los Angeles, Amalia
Nicholson, Hi, I guess this isn't

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live, is it? I mean, it's it's live to us because we're

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alive and we're in this moment.
You are Hill show. Oh my go

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God, it's so lovely to hear
your voice. I have missed you a

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lot, I know with that voice. Yeah, And I get to hear

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your voice because I listen to your
podcast, which selfishly is the main reason

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I need it to continue forever so
that I can just hear you. Thank

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you, thank you, and thank
you for being on. Before we jump

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in today with the you know the
what I can't take off this week and

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what our song of the week is, I wanted to acknowledge Amalia is a

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dear friend of mine and we have
witnessed great trauma in our city of Minneapolis

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since the murder of George Floyd,
and I want to take a moment and

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Amalia, honor your work on the
front lines of the Internet in sharing your

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information and resources, and also acknowledge
the state of the of the world that

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we are in. Um. I
know that you are from South Minneapolis and

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have lived here your whole life,
but recently made a move to la this

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past year for work. And before
we dive headfirst into our closet, I

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wanted to check in on your heart
and and see how you are. Yeah,

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oh the heart, baby. You
know, if we had had this

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conversation, which I don't think we
would have because how could we. If

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we had had this conversation two three
weeks ago, I think we would have

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had a very different conversation. I
grew up in Whittier, which is the

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neighborhood you saw get looted then whatever, you know, like whatever that can

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means. Really, if you see
a kmart get with windows busted in,

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when you've been harassed by police outside
of that kmart before in your life,

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you don't see you don't feel personally
too bad about it. If I'm being

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very honest about my experience. Yeah, but uh, you know, it

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was a really bizarre, extremely weird, surreal time. I joked that,

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like, you don't really expect the
first year you've ever moved away from home

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to be the year a global pandemic
and like a race war starts and it's

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not really a race war, but
you know it's it's it's like not what

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you expect at all, And so
it was devastating, and I think I'm

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not I guess I didn't realize I
was this kind of person, but I'm

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I guess it makes sense. I'm
the kind of person who can't just sit

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back I had to do whatever I
could with whatever I had, and being

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in Los Angeles meant that I was
glued to my phone and doing whatever I

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could to share whatever I had.
I you know, that includes like I'm

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fortunately, you know, I'm I
still have a job, and so that

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means donating money and asking you know, those to donate money, and sharing

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resources in other ways and hopefully making
a difference, even the tiniest bite.

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I don't know. Hopefully I did, but if not, that's okay too.

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I'm just really happy to see that
everyone sort of sort of on the

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other side of a really scary time
and now I just want to make sure

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that everyone is strong enough to keep
the work going because we're seeing we're seeing

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people dip out and that's not going
to work. But yeah, yeah,

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I want to thank you for sharing
that, um and I know that it

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is. It's so hard to be
away from home in times of great trauma,

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and what you have done in taking
your resources and also sharing your experiences

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as a black woman on Instagram has
been eye opening. You know, when

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you're sharing your interactions, I was
like, I I didn't know, and

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you know, it's a moment of
well, I should have known because this

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is our fucking world. But I
also want to point people to your page

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because you have so many amazing resources
up about you know, black beauty brands

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and books that you should read.
And I've learned so much from you and

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even you being across the country,
you've been my my, my go to

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of even you know, there's a
food shelf and it's in my community,

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but Molly has got it share um
and the Internet in this way has been

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an amazing connector in this time.
So I just I wanted to thank you,

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UM, and I honor you,
and I love you. I love

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you, and I think you know, I'm glad you're I'm glad it's helped

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you, and I'm glad it's helped
other people. And I hope that anyone

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who's listening which choose us to check
me out on the internet, you know.

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You know, I think one thing
that I've been thinking a lot about

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is I've gotten you know, a
lot of you followers over the past three

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weeks. And they were they were
people who would have never followed me when

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I was talking about being plus size
or what I was wearing or whatever.

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And that's that's fine. I think
It's an interesting thing to have people come

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to me now that they're being told
they need to diverse the side of feed

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and amplify melanated voices and all of
that. And I'm so happy to have

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new people who are interested in what
I have to say. But it's it's

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also weird, right because it's like, all I'm doing is sharing what I

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already have and what I've already been
doing. The books I read are the

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books they've already been. The books
that I'm sharing on Instagram are just books

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I've already owned. It's not because
I'm trying to better anyone else. You

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know. The films I'm going to
recommend, or the stories about my life

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and my experience of police with police
brutality, our stories I've already had.

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It's just I'm open to sharing them
as people are open to listening to them.

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But I think it's as people,
especially white people, choose to follow

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new accounts and diversify what they see, which I think is phenomenal and so

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important. I think we also have
to remember that, like the creators behind

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those Instagram accounts are just people,
and so my experience as a black woman

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is one thousand percent different. From
the experience of any other black woman and

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same with that. You know,
so follow a lot of black people,

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you know, follow a lot of
every kind of person because we're all different

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and we all have different perspectives,
and like, I'm just sharing what feels

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authentic to me. Yeah, thank
you so much for doing that, And

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I hope it is my greatest hope
that these followers stick around for the plus

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sized fashion. I don't know if
you can hear, but Rosie the dog

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is at the door and she is
very like, yes, follow Amalia.

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She is whining scratching on the door. But they better fucking stick around because

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your closet is one of my all
time favorites. And that leads me to

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what I can't take off this week? Do you want to go first?

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You want me to go first?
I the wind just opened my closet door.

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Oh my god, Oh no,
it's it's my boyfriend. I need

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to go away. That was scary, scary. I'm in my closet,

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speaking of my closet because it's quiet, and I thought the wind opened the

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door, and I got scared,
and then it just was a man.

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It's a man I lived with,
but he was not invited the boyfriend,

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the dog. Why can't they just
leave me alone? Can't away from me

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circumstances. Uh, it feels so
good to giggle with you. Yeah,

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I can. I can share what
I can't take off. Yeah. Um.

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So at the beginning of Quarkar Quarkar, I everyone was like, oh

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my god, you need sweatpants,
and I was like, yeah, for

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sure, And I bought some sweatpants. But I live in LA and like

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it gets hot here very quickly.
And I decided that nightgowns are gonna be

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my sing now. And I started
looking on what's they called the Vermont County

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Country Store, Yeah, the Vermont
Country Store, and they sell like eighty

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dollars nightgowns, and I was like, no, I can't. But fun

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fact H and M sells things that
are supposed to be used as regular dresses.

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But I would never wear them outside
of my home. They are wonderful

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nightgowns. Yeah. So now I
just look like a little ghost lady who's

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haunting the halls of my own home
in these like very oversized Chloe grounds own.

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Is it like a sorry, yeah
one? You know, they're they're

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so like spaghetti strapped hense dressed very
flowy. Um. One of them is

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like an off the shoulder number with
spilowy sleeves and floral prints. And my

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boyfriend thinks they look like a curtain, but I think I look like,

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um, a widow who is trying
to haunt her home. I love them.

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They are the best thing about them
is they're like from the straight sizeline.

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They're like all like an extra large
or an extra large, and they're

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gigantic and I love it. It's
fabulous. And I'm not like, I'm

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not an in between me like,
I'm very much a plus sized person.

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I like I wear like a twenty
two to twenty four, Like these are

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highly recommended. Keep her eye at
H and M Yeah, H and M.

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It's it's wonderful. What that's like. Think I'm that a listen.

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I will say this right now.
I have said. This is I very

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first see in any sort of fashion
blogging back in like two thousand and ten.

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If you don't go into straight sized
stores and try stuff on, you're

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doing yourself a disservice because it's just
it's a free for all. Nothing makes

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any sense. I have. I'm
looking at like a reformation tank up By

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the way, we're not talking about
reformation anymore. But like whatever, I

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have this tankop from them. It's
a side large or I'm like, okay,

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it works for me, Like you
have to try les. Yeah,

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I haven't gone in a store and
tried anything on for a long fucking time

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for the obvious reasons of you know, they're usually not plus friendly. The

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last time I feel like, the
last time I actually tried on something in

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store was with you. You introduced
me to Big Bud Press. I'm so

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obsessed, Thank you so much.
It's also another example of trying shit on

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in the store because sizing is so
fucked up, So like I am a

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five X in their pants and I'm
usually like twenty and if I go to

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another store that will translate to a
three X. Yeah, I can't even

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wear their clothes, but you have
you have all that really cute tight I

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shit, Oh yeah, the strikey
T shirts do hit. But yeah,

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the like structured pants are like a
hard path. But yeah, you know,

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everything is made differently. It is
what it is. Yeah, and

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some there's some stuff of theirs that
I've gotten, So the what I can't

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take off this week is basically my
summer wardrobe. They're like a Shartrouse pant

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and they look like a they're like
a canvas, I guess, and then

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there's like a an elastic to the
back U which sounds really fucking horrendous um

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and really ugly, but they're great, um, And they're just like oversized,

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and it's it's hard to find an
oversized fit in plus size, which

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is why I'm so shocked about this
H and M straight size nightgown situation,

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which I'm gonna do immediately after we're
yeah, um. But sometimes in Big

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Bud there's like a different canvas material
that has more structure, and it's again

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this goes back to like knowing your
measurements and reading the fucking size charts on

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on shit. But I've since shopped
online with Big Bud and what I they're

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size inclusive in terms that they carry
everything from straight size up to like I

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think five x X but yeah,
five X to them. Um. But

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I like how they have different models
for different sizes, so I can shop

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their entire online experience through five X
only looking at five X models or looking

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at size four. You know.
Yeah, I think that's like a very

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cool new trend with I haven't seen
it with a lot of brands. I

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feel like Good American does it,
and a couple of others that are like

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and even they like they'll show you
it like close on a size two and

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a size fourteen, which is like
not enough, but it's I want smart

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moved, I want like a big
bellied model. Huh yeah, I love

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so excited, you know, I
fucking love them. Um And I got

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another pair and like a like a
rusty pumpkin um that I just feel like,

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you know, they're one of those
pants that I can cuff up and

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where with a T shirt or I
can like put on a mule and wear

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it with a blazer. So it's
a nice cross functional piece, these pants

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with good I love, we need. I feel like all pieces need to

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be cross functional. Yeah, maybe
not all A lot um. I'm dying

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to know what your song of the
week is. I feel like you will

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know what mine is. I actually
don't think i'll know what yours is,

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and I have to I have to
remember what it's called. Hold on.

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Oh no, okay, So here's
the deal, guys. I am a

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very complex woman and I'm not gonna
find any more. Maybe well, I'm

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a very complicated woman. I have
a lot of diverse taste. I you

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know, can listen to any like
I've listened to every genre of music in

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my entire life, and like blah
blah blah whatever. Very educated. But

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the song I can't stop listening to
right now is it's called like the Yodel

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Song and it's on the Trolls to
movie soundtrack. Okay, first of all,

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you are I have a niece and
nephew, and so you'd think I

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watched Trolls because of that, but
that is not true. Yeah, the

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first time I watched the Trolls movie
was with a friend while drinking wine.

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And I love that movie so much
that my nephew, who's like six and

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thinks, he's like whatever about it
now, He's like if he sees me,

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he's like, you want to go
watch Trolls, Aunty, and like,

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thanks for doing me a solid kid, Like he thinks I can't watch

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it by myself. And so when
the new Trolls movie came out, uh,

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we facetimes with the kids and watch
shit and it was great. Um,

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but that song on the soundtrack is
a banger. It's so good and

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like Anderson Pack is all over the
soundtrack. It's great. Wow, but

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it's just like it's called like the
yodel song, and it's just like yodeling

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mixed with like like dub step chaos. It's like definitely for like children with

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too much energy, who needs to
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like it a lot. I haven't. I haven't checked out trolls too yet,

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but I know your love for trolls
runs deep. Um, especially regarding

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the trolls oreos with glitter. You
know, the glitter was a scam.

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I wondered. I wanted it to
be better, but I you know,

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I'm I'm happy with what I can
get in the trolls universe. I love

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it. Did you have trolls as
a kid. I'm sure I had like

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one or two, but they were
I think they're kind of creepy. Yeah,

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like the dolls with the belly button. I think it's weird. Yeah.

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I never I like the modern one. I mean, I'm sure they're

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making them again, because there's a
fucking trolls movie. Um. I didn't

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even realize. I am. Yeah, they're very different. They're very different

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from the old school trolls. They
will be incredibly different. Um, Yeah,

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they were clothes. There's no jam
in the belly. Okay, Uh,

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yeah, they're evolved. You know, I only had a m I

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never had an actual troll doll.
But when I would go to the dentist.

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Um, you know, I'm from
a super small town, and so

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when we would go to the dentist, would get a treat of McDonald's afterwards.

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And the only troll that I had
was a happy Meal troll and it's

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basic, just like you know,
a nude piece of plastic. Yeah,

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I have UH. When things are
really bad in Minneapolis, I have a

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neighbor of who I also work with
more friends. She brought me UM some

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things helped me relax, which I
won't name. But he also brought me

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a happy Meal with two tools toys, so I also have. I also

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told from McDonald what a great friend
we loved her. Um. My song

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of the week is a song that
I hold very near and dear to my

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heart when I think of you,
UM and our sweet friend Emily, and

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that is um the Earth, the
air, and the fire of the water.

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UM. And I can't believe I
lucked it up on Spotify today.

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UM the Proper band, I don't
know if we call them. The band

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is Labanna, Levana or Lebana.
Yeah, it's Labana. It's just like

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it's what you would expect to find
um in a coffee shop in Stockholm,

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Wisconsin during a festival at midnight.
Um Like Okay. So I feel like

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when I really started getting to know
you was right when pen fifteen came out

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on Hulu and yeah we you.
Emily and I were planning a photo shoot

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together and the end of our planning
session just turned into us basically creating this

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almost like sance. It was like
a sance like atmosphere where we just sang

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that song over and over, like
with our palms. We are adult women,

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by the way, it's just sitting
on a living room floor with our

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palms connected and eyes shut, going
do you see the fire the watery yea.

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I think you also have to remember
we after we also left Emily's apartment

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and went multiple places and just started
singing it there, like in an art

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gallery as you do, where other
people were the art. We just sang

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it. Yeah, really emotional.
It's a great song. It's a great

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song, and I think I need
to listen to it more. Yeah,

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then I need to yodel more.
That's really great. Um, I want

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to know. Yeah, those are
chaotic choices. Well, what's really great

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is there gonna go We have like
a progressive Spotify playlist, So these two

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are now gonna go back to back
and I'm really excited about that mood journey

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that is going to be very rough. Um, tell me what has brought

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you joy this week? Oh?
Um, joy? Let's see what's that?

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Um shit? Oh god, you
know what I took. I'm on

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PTO right now, tell you.
Yeah, Like I just decided that,

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like I'm gonna do what my heart
wants me to do, and like I

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have a stack of books I'm supposed
to read, and like, yeah,

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I'll maybe I'll learn how to read
through osmosis someday. But right now,

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I'm just watching Married at First Sight
in ninety Day Fiance a lot and it

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feels feeling good. Yeah, um
yeah, And maybe I'll take a shower

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today Wolfee. Maybe not. Yeah, but it's just like no pressure situations

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or what's what's going to bring me
joy right now? I think? Yeah,

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I love that. Yeah, I
love that. Um. What brought

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me joined this week was, uh, you saw this on the internet and

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it was just really fucking awesome and
everything that I love about the Internet,

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and reminded me how the Internet can
be such a source of giggles. Um.

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So there was a uh like an
online auction going on for a homemade

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um acab rug. Um you don't
know what it means all cops are bastards?

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Um? Or does it right?
That's this is where this is gonna

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go. Um, you know,
and it's just like, I'm a white

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woman. I had to google what
acab meant and I'm like, okay,

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yeah, fuck yeah acab um.
And the comments were really loved it basically

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went um, you know, this
woman said all cops are not bad in

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a very you know, like all
lives matter momentum. And then someone else

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commented, don't worry, that's not
what it stands for. And then the

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conversation continued to be like, well
what does it stand for then, because

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you know that's what I've heard and
and people need to be careful um.

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And then everyone was just like,
it means all cats are beautiful. And

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the final bid on this homemade rug
where the you know, the money was

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going to a local nonprofit um was
four hundred and seventy five bucks, and

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the winning bid was just like,
I fucking love cats, Like it was

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so good. It was it was
like a roast of positivity and I don't

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I don't think it's so good.
Not a roast, but it was like

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so light. You know, we
needed that little moment on the internet.

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I think we did. And you
know what it was like, it was

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like how to deal with trolls in
the funniest, the bad kind of trolls,

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not a good time. The it
was like how to deal with them

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in the best way possible where it's
just like it's like, it was so

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funny, and the artist Crystal Quinn
is just like unbelievably talented and I highly

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recommend checking it out because it is
death kiss funny. I hope it lives

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on forever. Oh yeah, I
want to now dive into your wardrobe.

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I feel good and warmed up and
giggly and fucking thank you. You are

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such a true inspiration of mine and
such a great example of celebrating our bodies

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through our wardrobe. And I want
to know kind of where your exploration and

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passion for fashion inside your body began. M I mean, I don't,

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I don't know, like I've never
not been this way. I think it

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kind of goes back to what I
like. It's I don't know, because

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it's just who I am, right
Like, I apparently growing up with someone

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who wanted to lay out my outfit
for the next day. And then that

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transformed into, oh, I need
my Delia's and girlfriend's la catalog so I

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can figure out what I want to
wear, and then that turned into making

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sure my sims look truly good all
the time. And then, you know,

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as soon as I was able to, you know, and then and

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my mom was always very thrifty and
we would go to like Discount Stars and

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figure out what to wear. And
um, but you know, as your

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body changes and you get older and
your you know, your plus size,

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you don't have the options as much. And you know, I think I

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just, um, I didn't care. I don't know. I just would

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wear like band T shirts and I
had hot pink hair and like would like

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remember there's these really great pictures of
me in like middle school with like jeans

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and I sewed like pink fabric into
the sides, so my jeans were really

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big because I couldn't before I couldn't
fit into Jinko jeans. It would just

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be skinny jeans on me. So
you know, I figured out my own

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way to do it. It's a
look. Um. So it's just always

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been this way, I think.
And um, as like the years have

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gone on, it's gotten easier to
access the types of clothes I authentically want

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to wear and like to wear because
they're being made. Um. But you

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know, it's again, it's like
the idea of celebrating my body. It's

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like or like a plus I've body. It's like I don't know, I

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just know I dressed better than a
lot of people who aren't fat. So

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like you should look at it.
I guess fucking this is over. That

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is it you did? It's looking
like I'm very on top, dude.

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Yes, I've been, Like I
my friend Liz and I started a fashion

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tumbler back in twenty ten when that
wasn't a thing, right, Like I'm

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friends with like Gabby and Nicolette and
like Kelly and like all these girls who

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have been doing this for so so
long. Um and and they're amazing and

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they're like total inspirations to me,
and I don't want to do what they

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do because so they're killing it like
Gabby is killing it. Gabby Fresh.

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For those who don't know Gabby on
a first name basis, she is.

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She's like the beacon celebrity of plus
sized fashion. All hail Gabby. Yeah,

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yeah, she's the reason fat girls
wear bikinis. She literally was like,

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I'll wear a bikini right now,
and then it turned into like let's

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let's let's let Gabby make her own
line and like that is the reason there

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are fat bikinis now. Um,
so you know I did that a little

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while and so it's always been a
part of me. It's not so much

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like it wasn't so much a goal
of like what my internet presence was leading

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up to now necessarily um that is
until you know, not for the distancing,

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I guess, but um yeah,
I don't know. I just like

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pictures of what I wear. How
it did? Um, how did oot

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distancing start? And what does it
mean? Yeah? How did this our

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econo? Man? I think this
kind of goes back like I am learning

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more about myself in that when faced
with crippling anxiety and fear, I don't

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let myself stop too much. I
sort of am like if I don't pay

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attention to how scared. I am. I won't be scared anymore. So

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I stay really really dizzy, and
so like with all the stuff in Minneapolis

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and like wanting to spring into action
once the pandemic kind of became a very

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real reality, especially if someone in
Los Angeles. I was really freaked out.

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I have really severe asthma, and
so like leaving the house is not

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an option, like really it's it's
like we're in lockdown, and I don't

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really know when I'm not going to
be in lockdown because people are crazy and

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think they deserve to go to brunch
right now. So I can't. I

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don't understand. I don't get it. I don't get it at all.

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And so I was through like laying
around and I was like, what is

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gonna like you inspire me? And
like what can I do? And like

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how can I like put something positive
out into the world, because I was

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it was doom scrolling every day,
like it was just like everyone's just posting

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over and over, like all these
conspiracy theories are like here's why you need

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to wear a mask, Here's why
you shouldn't wear a mask, Here's here's

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how many people are gonna die by
February third or whatever, and I'm like

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its February fifteenth. Were talking about
like so it's just like its chaos,

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and so I was like, Okay, how do we find a way to

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encourage people to stay home? And
like how do we talk about distance social

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distancing and not quarantine but like kind
of. And I was like texting with

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our friend Alex and I was like, what if we did like daily outfit

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challenges and she was like, I
just want to wear my ath leisure and

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I was like respect. And the
next way I woke up and I was

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like, I'm just gonna try it, and I texted like you and Emily

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and I was like, Okay,
we're gonna try to sing if you want.

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And it's gonna be called outfit of
the distancing and that comes from UM.

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In the fashion blogger instagrammy community,
there's a term hashtag oot D,

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which stands for Outfit of the Day. And so I was like, oh,

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that's easy. Outside of the distancing, you just add instancing. I

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don't know how to think distancing without
a D. So perfect, you just

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add it to the d's special together, Um, you just together. What

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OOT distancing UM did for me was
so I have always been a huge advocate

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of no one has a good day
in sweatpants. Um. But when it

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was day in and day out of
and we were like, we were releasing

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a new a brand new net news
section of our website at this time,

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and so I was just like getting
up straight to my desk and it was

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very much I'm working in my pajamas, which are just underwear sometimes the sweatpants.

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UM. And then you know,
feeling off my game and I'm like,

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what the fuck am I off my
game? It's oh, it's because

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I'm not wearing clothes. Um.
And when you sent this this text,

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this email of this challenge, UM, you had themes to it initially,

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right like what are what are you
going to wear when you flatten the curve?

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That's what it was. Yeah,
that was the first one. Yeah.

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Yeah, because it was like I
didn't want it to just be totally

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random. I didn't want because you
know what, I didn't want to see

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people wearing footpants. I was like, I want to give someone a challenge

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because I don't want to see that. Yeah, And it gave us a

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reason to get dressed. And in
this I learned something about myself. It

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was like I have always thought,
you know, oh, I'm getting dressed

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for myself and it's a form of
self expression. And then I'm just like,

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or do I get fucking dressed for
the internet? What have I?

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And I had like this moment of
who am I when I'm not dressed up?

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Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, it was like this,

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and then the second that I put
on actual denim or put thought into what

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I was wearing, it was like
an immediate readiness. Yeah, yeah,

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it's I It's been interesting. Like
when I first started it, I was

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so into it. I was so
ready and I was like, Okay,

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I'm gonna took another outfit photo.
It's gonna be great. And I felt

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all of that, and then I
went through a really serious mental health crisis,

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and I don't remember exactly when.
It's been a few weeks since I've

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sort of come out the other side
of it, but like, to be

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really frank and honest, like I
had to have like an emergency psychiatric call

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where I was like, I need
antidepressions as soon as humanly possible because I

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can't keep doing this. Like this
has been so hard. I hate it.

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I hate being stuck at home.
I hate being afraid of everyone.

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I hate being afraid of getting sick. I just I reached this point where

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I was like, I don't like
this. I don't like this life of

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quarantine and I'm not happy, and
like my mental health is really suffering,

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and the correlation of like I need
to get back on my antidepressants, which

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I had meaned myself off of like
in January often timing, and then the

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like my ability to get dressed,
like is directly correlated, right, And

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so it is really obvious that like
doing something as simple as putting on a

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piece of clothing that brings you joy, doing something as simple as putting on

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an outfit that brings you joy is
a sign of where you're at mentally,

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but also like what your desires are
for yourself, I think, yeah,

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wow, Yeah, there are a
lot of levels to what you just said,

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and I'm like, on every fucking
one of them. A first off,

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I commend you on the courage to
reach back out and to you know,

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know the signs for yourself to getting
that help. I have had to

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reach out again um to my therapist
during this time, and it's I'm glad

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that I have that option. I
realized I'm very privileged to have that option.

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And in the other vein of that, there were so many years where

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I neglected those signs in myself,
and like you said, the days where

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I can't get out of bed and
I can't get dressed, I would just

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be like, this is an off
day. But you know, like sometimes

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it would last three days, and
that's that's depression. It's a part of

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how depression manifests itself for me.
Anyway, well done on that. And

436
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I'm a big fan of jobs.
I'm just I'd like to be very honest.

437
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:07.920
I am Wow. I just love
my antidepressant. Yeah yeah, yeah,

438
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it for me, it helps me. Um, it's like a little

439
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:19.960
bit of a safety net. Um. So my my antidepressants also helped me

440
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curb my panic attacks. M yeah. So it's just like a little bit

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of I'm in control because I took
that pill today, um, and it's

442
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there to help me. Um.
I am not broken. Um, but

443
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I'm gonna take this thing that helps
me feel better. And you know,

444
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it's all about if it helps me
feel better, and if I can fucking

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get dressed in a cool fucking outfit, then it's you know worth it to

446
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me, right, totally I want
to know your thoughts on because OOT distancing,

447
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you know when you started it,
and this is one of the cool

448
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:09.719
things things about the Internet is it
took off without you sending challenges every day

449
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or like every week, and now
people are still using that hashtag of OOT

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distancing, and it's you know,
spread beyond just your friend group, and

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it's a way that people are celebrating
their wardrobe and still getting up and still

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showing up to their work from home
or even just showing up to read a

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book on their couch, but kind
of getting back into that into the the

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day to day and the what's the
word I'm looking for, the routine of

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the day. It's it's taken off
a bit. What's been the coolest thing

456
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that you've seen unfold with it?
So I have two thoughts on that I'll

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start with. I'll start with the
coolest and I don't actually know, but

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I think the coolest thing has been
seeing people in other parts of the world

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using it. I also think it's
been really cool. I think something that

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happens a lot in plus size fashion, in plus size fashion blogging is that

461
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:29.719
it's so sequestered from like quote unquote
mainstream and so for a hashtag to transcend

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that, it's really cool to me. I see people plus and straight size

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00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:40.039
using it, which I love.
I think that's like, that's awesome.

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I think everyone who has a body
on the Internet deserves to show what they

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want to show and be celebrated for
it. I don't care what it is

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or what you put in it,
like what you wear, like if you

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want to use that hashtag, it's
yours. And I love that. And

468
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.480
I also think it's cool about a
hashtag. I'm like, you know,

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it's interesting. Some people kind of
came to me about this, but I

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think it's cool about a hashtag.
Is like I don't need the credit,

471
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:13.440
Like it's a hashtag. Those aren't
created to have ownership. You're not supposed

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to say hashtag outfite of the distancing
by a Molly and Nicholson. No,

473
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:23.920
that's that's not what that's for.
Like this is just like organic and and

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I don't need that credit. And
I think that that's really cool that like

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it has surpassed anything I've done because
like whatever, like no one's monetizing that.

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Like maybe if it was like somehow, you know, a brand was

477
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.519
using it and making billions of dollars. Opposite, i'd be salty and maybe

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00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.360
we'd have a different conversation. But
like, this is about community building and

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about encouraging something good, So I
think that's awesome. The weirdest thing know

480
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about it has been like creating something
two months ago, three months ago now

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that I don't want to see anymore. Uh. It's not that I don't

482
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like, I don't. I don't
want to see an alpha photo right now.

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I don't want to see UM.
Right now is not the time for

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for selfies to me in a lot
of ways, UM, And I don't.

485
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:19.039
I don't mean that in like a
steadfast way, Like if someone wants

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to post an alpha photo right now, they're one thousand percent allowed to do

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that. And I I, you
know, I enjoy seeing people UM.

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But you know, because I subscribe
to the just like overall hashtag. I

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see people in my you know,
timeline, and I see the people that

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are just they're they're acting as if
their lives has gone on completely unchanged since

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the beginning of quarantine and since you
know, George Floyd's murder and UM,

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and that's hard. But I think
the difficult part of creating something that's UM

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so like equal to anybody who wants
to use it, is that you also

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have to accept that, like people
who aren't necessarily aligned with your political beliefs

495
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:06.199
are allowed to use that thing too
and not. Okay, I mean,

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00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.880
I'm happy to see that it's still
being used and people are still finding ways

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00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:15.559
to feel good. Um, I
just hope it also means that they're distancing

498
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.440
at the bare minium and if not
trying to dismantle the systems, that a

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00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:29.480
process would also be nice. Well, ma'am, I am here for you.

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Well done. Um, I didn't
even think about the way that it

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would come into your feed. Does
it come into your feed more regularly because

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00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:49.639
you started it? Is there like
a weird I don't think Instagram cares who

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00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:53.400
started it, which is fine,
Yeah, I don't. I don't see

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00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:58.199
it's too often. I follow enough
people that I don't. I don't see

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00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.039
that hashtag all that often. So
I actually haven't checked on it in a

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00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:06.119
while because it just hasn't felt like
the right time. Um, it feels

507
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.559
like it's the right time for outfit
of the revolution. Maybe you know,

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00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:16.239
I am she's doing it. You
are great as starting revolutions, Amalia.

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00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.280
Yeah, I didn't you know what
the best part is. The outfit of

510
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:28.119
the revolution is a nightgown form H
and nab Wow Wow from from homemade Jinko

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00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:38.559
flares to H and M Nightgowns of
the Revolution exactly. I am proud of

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00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:45.840
you, and I love you,
and I think that you are smart and

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00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:54.199
hilarious and I want the whole world
to follow you because your your brilliance and

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00:46:54.280 --> 00:47:00.960
your brain is I'm so lucky to
get to know what I'm person but also,

515
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:06.320
like your Instagram is pretty fucking good
too, So God, I just

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00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.039
feel like I'm an idiot on the
internet. So that's thanks to here.

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00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:13.119
But like, really only follow if
you're prepared for me to talk about controls

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00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.440
who've like honestly, that's where we're
headed once this we've all done. Like

519
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:24.119
also and maybe King of the Hill. Fucking love you so much, Thank

520
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:30.840
you so much for coming on your
dear dear love and the world is so

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00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.400
lucky to have you. I'm lucky
to have you in my world, so

522
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:40.480
thank you for inviting me to be
here. And if you got this far

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00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:45.440
in the pod, I'm impressed as
book and really grateful to have you listening.

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00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.199
If you want to know more information
about me or the show, check

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out the show page on Matriarch dm
dot com, where we host all of

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the what I Can't Take off,
our progressive Spotify playlist from the songs of

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the week, and obviously they remind
Dr Wood to follow for the week,

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00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:06.440
all in a nice little fucking Matriarch
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made by Ben Karen Like I'll never
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