Good morning, Mother Sphere Good morning Male Common Sphere Sheath Welcome. Still no
good morning, Mother waits welcome. In this space in which you know we
love to present you projects, people, challenges, adventures, experiences that help
you to cope with this beautiful thing of upbringing, of education, of parenthood,
of motherhood. In the best way and as it could not be less,
today we will present to you a super interesting person and a more interesting
project that may help you encourage you in this beautiful task of initiating our creatures,
initiating or accompanying perhaps our creatures in the wonderful world of reading, today
we welcome to podcast a person that you have already heard, because we have
been able to hear it in the special of the winners of the Inspirate Awards.
But on this occasion we will hear her expounding properly and to get to
know Judith Gallardo a little better. Good afternoon, good afternoon, good morning,
good evening, we already know that this podcast thing can be any time.
Judith Gallardo, creator of genius readers. How are you, Judith,
for I am delighted to chat with you this afternoon, tomorrow night, at
this moment, at this moment. Well, Judith, tell us. Above
all, thank you for stopping by, congratulations, for that wonderful award Be
inspired, for your work, for your project, for genius readers. It
gave us great joy to give as a winner and to be able to reward
all this work all that beautiful project with which you are accompanying so many families.
So that' s the first thing we have to say. No,
the pleasure was me. Besides, I didn' t expect it at all
and when you said genius readers, my partner was recording and in the video
that one that will never come out. I was like saying what, like
they' re like I' m not happy, you know, but it
wasn' t very cool. So nothing, thank you very much. Nothing
immense pleasure and, moreover, much deserved and chosen by the wonderful jury,
first by the public, which was the first phase of the awards, and
then by a super professional jury. So very well- deserved and, of
course, give back the good news to all the people who came to the
final, to all the people who participated in the awards and to all the
people who continue to work and create in your projects, in digital profiles,
creating digital content that is very slave and very hard. And suddenly someone will
recognize him and pat you, for you are very grateful and do not stop
doing so. Don' t stop. I didn' t come there either
I still don' t mean to be cursed by the prizes and to stop
it from happening, it could happen. That' s the way it is.
Sometimes it can get over everything. First, and because I already know
you a little bit and we follow you through networks and you have a great
community, but tell us a little Judith, who you are because you also
have a voice of being very young. In the voice of a young person
we love to catch up with youth, tell us a little bit, who
you are that how you come to create this project and a little bit,
because that is how the initiative arises in you, the anxiety to get into
a forum as genius readers, because to see me, I had always liked
to read and write. So, I' ve always had that interest in
literature and lyrics. I began to study the degree of general linguistics in Barcelona,
which is my hometown, and there I realized that the literature was not
very present, because in the degree of linguistics, in addition, the whole
part of language and language is worked much more. Since then, the literature
was not played in a very extensive way either, but in children' s
literature and good in the end, nor is it played in philology. In
fact, if you look at the projects there are and the subjects, there
is no room for this type of literature. So, like, what'
s forbidden and what' s not talked about gets me even more attention then
I started doing some research on my own about infantile and juvenile literature and I
was super lucky to be able to work in a bookstore specializing in children and
youth. Okay, well, the bookstore was a general, but I was
hired as a child and a youth, and from there I got to know
a little more about this literature. I went on to combine everything I was
learning in the career with that I was more theoretical, with the more part
of the deal, with the people, with the kids, with the families.
I became aware of the needs I had and began to manage reading promotion
activities in this bookshop. On his own initiative, he thought that the bookshop
in space had to be energized a little bit, in the concept of space
in which you sell books, he no longer took anything. Now we have
to do it. The bookstore is a cultural space. At the end and
from there, then, the covid came and I decided that all the workshops
I was doing in libraries or that I was doing also in the bookstore had
to take a step further. And that was my head and keen readers that
is an online bookstore. Right now he specializes in children and youth. And
also, because it' s a habit project to encourage reading, I understand
reading and I' m collaborating with schools, libraries, cultural ones, bookstores
as well. So that' s how I started and so I' m
telling us before that you liked that of course it' s easy to imagine
that the taste for literature comes from always. IT at home has been something
that has encouraged you especially to like literature so much, especially as many recent
parents listen to us, especially with that concern, that concern. My son,
my daughter, will like to read if I like what they did in
your house or what they didn' t do that they have meant that you
like letters so much. See there' s one thing that I think my
generation still has worth, although it' s true that I' m young,
I' m not born, I mean, I' m from the
digital technological age, but in my house there was no mistake either. Me.
I mean, I' ve grown up without a cell phone. I
didn' t have a cell phone until I was thirteen or fourteen. Of
course, technologies are a very powerful tool. We talked about creating content before
Instagram, but also for children it is a very clear source of entertainment and
often competes between quotes with other activities that have less encouragement, not like reading,
for example, that requires more effort and has less direct stimulation. It
is clear that living in that environment already encourages reading rather than living in which
we are now. It' s already a different environment. Still, my
parents didn' t do anything as super special, because I was always that
curious, but it' s true that they fed her more, that is,
as they saw that I was interested right away. They gave me the
library card so I could go get more books. Every week we went to
the library that made four stories on Wednesdays. I think then we called all
the mieescles the accounts of the library and used to pick up and return books.
I was actually taking mileaya because my parents worked and then we were also
going to do homework to the library many afternoons and they were giving me books
to reward me for things I' ve got good grades in the first trimester
four books we go to the bookstore that that is very good and you take
the four books that you want. And of course, I' ve never
been told this book, not this book. I' ve always had as
much freedom in that sense and as they knew I liked them, they were
always looking for things to take me and to continue feeding. That' s
why I bought a typewriter right away because they knew I liked writing. Then
a computer without the Internet so that it could write. Then they fed a
little, but they didn' t force because I already liked it and they
had that ease. Let' s say well, well, it' s
very important and you always talk about not how to do it, how to
encourage it. In fact, it is part of your work, to encourage
the taste for reading and, about you, you will find that question constantly
families who come to IT both in person and through your project from the Internet.
Not exactly to see, and that is many times because the child already
has interest as such. That is, there are characters that encourage reading more
than others. Reading is an activity like very calm, which requires a lot
of concentration. Then there are children whose character is more moved, for example,
they are more attracted to more sports activities or more. It is not
exclusive either, but good that there are characters to encourage more one thing than
the other. Even so, obviously, you can do things to comment on
reading how to read yourself too many times is not to do as great efforts
very rare things either. In the end, sometimes you have to be a
little consistent with what you' re asking for and that there are books at
home that see you read is that they' re things like then there are
other techniques, obviously, there are other ways to do it. Also,
for children who have some kind of difficulty reading, other tools need to be
used, to use other kinds of materials, obviously, but in general,
the most basic thing and what strikes them the most is that the book is
present and sometimes we demand things that adults are not willing to do. And
you think this thing that you said you didn' t have a cell phone
when you were young that right now everyone has a cell phone, there'
s an age right now, there' s controversy about the ages of mobile
access, but in principle, it has more and more people, more mobile
people, and yet they haven' t stopped selling books. I don'
t know if they sell more than before or they don' t sell more
than before, but many books are sold, so it' s true that
new technologies prevent us from reading or don' t see that there is an
interesting thing and now getting the end job of master' s, high school,
high school teachers, and my work is related to academic performance, the
electric Habita and the elector buys. It couldn' t be any other way.
So, just yesterday they were looking I loved very well that I asked
myself I am because just yesterday I was doing an analysis of some statistics And
it turns out that to the kids, to the ones that I have polled,
that they are twelve years old to the first era, that they all
have habit elected more or less worth, that is, principle that the truth,
that it seems that the answers are quite realistic, because then there are
answers I am not interested in anything. In books there is nothing you can
do to make it clear, but it is not that they did it to
look good, but actually, then the others are denoted that there is some
expressive freedom in theory. I want to believe that it is true that the
habit, because it is realistic. So every week they read at least one
or two days for taste, well, for taste or obligation, but books
outside the institute are not mandatory readings. But oddly enough, in the data
of how many books you were given year, you still read two. How
is it possible that if you read so much of the day, you'
ll just finish two books. Not sure, it' s all a hypothesis,
because in the end, because I' m not in their heads or
in their homes, I don' t know, but I think a little
what the motive is, that is, they have books, they buy them
books. Sure, buying books isn' t the same as reading the book.
That is very clear and clear to us is not that sometimes the statistics
of reading habits are made according to the sales of books. And it'
s not very realistic, because you can give away a lot of books and
they' re on the shelf doing dining room decoration. Don' t read
them then there' s a little bit of it going on a little bit.
If you see the statistics of the habit, you think rubbed, there
is a lot of future. But you see after two books have been finished,
three books a year, having read so much. From time to time
to time, and what I can think of, which of course is a
hypothesis like any other, is that you start looking at the book, but
it' s vibrated my whatsapp. I look at it, I stop now
I want to go to the bathroom continuous and face to day, even if
they have dedicated every day I read for a while. It' s been
a while since it wasn' t critical reading, that is, they haven
' t been reading focused on what they' re reading. It' s
a reading like what' s typical when you ask a mom who just had
a little boy who says no. I read when I breastfeed him that it
is a very flattering moment. There' s nothing to do, because you
take advantage of it and read that it' s videos not a bit like
already when I don' t know, I' m not a mother,
but many mothers say it. Well, I take advantage of it while I
know how to read it, but of course it is a reading of the
same kind. It' s a reading that' s not a concentrated reading,
because you' re doing something else and you' re not who I
know. So maybe the book lasts five months, you don' t read
that book in three weeks that you would have read it to yourself if you
' d been concentrating less days reading the book. Then, in the end,
of course, I have my doubts about the habit. Don' t
grow up reading too much, it doesn' t have to mean reading for
real. And there we go into a more complicated thing, because, because
that encouraging reading is not staying with the child reading and that' s it
with going a little further than it is for what it serves you. Reading
is to reflect, to think, to have fun, but it' s
a brain activity. It' s not a thing that happens to you,
and it' s clear, of course, of course. Then, there
we come to the critical, conflicting, painful point of reading comprehension. Yeah,
it' s a clear melon. There' s data there, too.
What I do not know very well or what is not and there is
also much controversy is about whether the studies that gather the evolution of the reading
comprehension in our students, in our country, how they are carried out,
whether they are more or less effective and measure better or worse the famous PISA
tests, which are those that tell us that the reading comprehension is going worse
and that they always bring a flood of controversy also and that, moreover,
just this year, I have seen near the tests that are carried out and
good and you read to the teachers who correct them, because the topic of
the evaluation is my complex. In general, I mean to make a realistic
assessment that really takes into account the diversity of the student body, which is
adapted. I also mean you can' t pass him the same aunt.
It is a child with dyslexia than another who does not have dyslexia, because
perhaps it is not that the reader does not have understanding, perhaps it is
that the presentation of the also is not adapted as he understands the texts.
Or a child who has vision problems you can give the same text because he
or she doesn' t understand it anyway and it' s not an understanding
issue, but they' re playing other factors that make the result altered.
It' s not around there there' s a complexity in general, but
I think that, as a rule, you, when you ask a teacher
if his students understand things, most say no. I mean, there'
s a whole world that knows there' s a problem of reading comprehension.
We can ignore it more, we can ignore it less. But you go
to college and ask him. A university professor you think your students know how
to write well and it' s okay to understand the texts and I wouldn
' t know what percentage, but most will tell you not what. You
don' t go to high school, you ask, and it happens just
like me. It happens to me because I give many talks, for teachers
and also for families. And in the end, the general feeling is that
no one understands it, no one was and a feeling that the children are
finding out what they' re reading then I' m surprised that when they
come out the exams everyone steps on to say it' s true. I
' m good at it. No one is saying clearly, I say oysters
these teachers who they will be, because the ones I find are not.
I' m surprised because I' m telling you later that you' re
really talking to any cloisters is true. It' s a problem. It
' s just that I don' t know that I do exams and sometimes
he answers me wrong because they don' t understand the question. And then
when the footprints come out, not our country, not our perfect, of
course not. Or we hang on to a few things. It is the
covid does not forgive, of course the covid It would be this the topic
of the covid already we are as well for all and the child is fifteen
years old, I bought it in his reader, already made it in primary
and there was no covid I mean to see it has been able to have
a small delay for the covid but at fifteen years old it had to have
reading understanding from before. It is not a question that of the twelve to
whom I sincerely decide no longer with twelve. You' ve got to be
clear by now. I mean, let' s see not then. Yes,
it' s true that evaluations are a little complicated and I don'
t know how realistic they are, but we' re more or less on
the OCB average. Well, that' s good, we' re just
like in the European Union. Yeah, but there are five scores and we
' re in two, which would be, like, a text at basic
levels. Rollo here buys bread, says he buys bread. You know the
moment you add it makes it difficult or abstract, no one knows anything anymore,
which is how dangerous you really don' t understand, I don'
t know a newspaper news or when a political speech. In writing. That
' s where they can really manipulate you, where reading is powerful, that
you understand, that there puts top is basic illiteracy clear and attracts attention,
because precisely we want them to learn to read each time before. And yet,
I do see that much concern in families, in cabbages. There'
s that pressure that kids have to get into elementary school already reading. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, but I don' t know, but
you teach yourself well to read the subject clearly. I think we' re
so focused on what it' s like to decode what it says that then
we forget about everything else, as the child already knows how to read,
see See knows what it says here. The kid reads it to you,
but that' s nothing. It' s actually a very superficial part of
what it' s like to read. And in many talks I give to
families I tell them to read, they' re going to learn, unless
they have some major learning disorder. In general, all children learn to read,
are not going to reach the age of twelve without knowing how to read,
or learn at the age of four or learn at the age of six.
I mean, that' s not it either. Every child has his
rhythm not only depends on biological aspects. Okay, it' s really very
complex, and we only do it on a large scale because we don'
t have teachers to make the classes smaller. Then we have to determine an
age. You' re this age we all teach them en masse, because
so we do. Everything, not reading, math, everything, because it
' s a capacity problem. So if your son at four, one learns,
then girl, at five, he will learn to read what it is
to read he will learn. The problem is that we are not focusing so
much on reading comprehension. You don' t work, that is you don
' t really do a test you' ve understood this text. It is
not to work the reading comprehension at all, because in the end I mean
who does not understand the text will answer the questions. Okay, but you
' re not giving her any technique so they know the next text to understand.
Sure, sure, sure, there' s the thing. Sure.
You' ve got it wrong, you' ve got it right, and
now, when you give me another thing and it' s one thing that
I' m seeing a lot too when, because that' s more with
lectures to your own teacher and teachers of teaching such that they' re studying
and doing this kind of reflection and they themselves don' t tend the text
that you' ve passed on to them. The bibliography is valid, therefore,
because it is true that there is a bibliography to see. Let'
s also be honest. There are articles that are a little encrypted also in
the academic world, in good academic, of course, also mus clearly the
academic world sometimes when you read more bibliographies. It is true that there are
things that are very bureaucratic and hard to understand, because yes, yes,
yes, yes, but if you have a good reading understanding, you have
tools to understand, even if it is the basics of the text and then
you have to look for more concrete things because you don' t understand and
things as basic as not kids. But to see what the text is about,
look for the words that are most repeated. That' s usually the
subject or the synonyms that there are usually being is like the main topic and
from oysters, nobody had ever told them. It doesn' t mean we
don' t equip students with tools so that they know how to correct themselves
and have understanding in the reader and we just complain that they don' t
do well then And besides, as everything is changing so fast that there is
now a lot of vict. In other words, it is being studied that
the difference between reading in digital and reading a paper, for example, that
that is changing the way children, boys and girls themselves read and learn in
the same way, reading on paper or reading in digital is that all that
is being studied now. That is clear, yes, yes, yes,
I think that many times to watch self- criticism is very hard for everyone.
I mean, you' re assuming that you' re doing it,
because everyone does everything like me a priori and I feel like I want to
think that everyone a priori does everything with good intention. Until the opposite is
proven and everyone does it with mani intention, then, the teachers of the
families, all the attempts they make actually make them with good intention, Then
it is very hard that something that you are doing with affection and love realize
that, maybe it is not so well done and, maybe you are wrong
and have to rectify it and have to relearn you, because there is a
time when you already become an adult, you don' t want to learn
anymore. It' s like I don' t want to change my whole
perspective. I mean, I' ve assembled here, for example, because
a teacher, I' ve already assembled here my whole mental structure of how
it' s going to be a class. I' ve been doing the
same kind of class for ten years and it' s really hard to really
say oysters all I' ve done. It' s not really that I
' m lost, because I' m not, but it' s very
hard to assume it' s okay now. I have to change everything,
I have to relearn everything that equals children, these children have no electoral understanding,
because I am doing something wrong? Of course, it' s not
really like that. It' s not that you' re making poplar is
the context has changed, it' s that you have to adapt. But
of course it means there' s something you' re doing wrong, because
things are changing and you don' t or you refuse to make change.
No, I mean, kids right now aren' t as much as they
used to be. It' s not that he' ll suddenly do this
generation' s thing is lost. It' s not like they' re
dumber. Of course, they' re no more fools than they were before.
They are simply in another context and we do not know how to guide
them. We don' t know how to control digitization. We don'
t know how not to ban it, but to control it. We don
' t know how to manage exposure on social media. We do not know
how to encourage reading. We don' t know, and since we don
' t know, it' s going wrong. Your summary, because it
can' t be showing, but it' s going wrong. There are
things that we know to work, of course, of course it is.
There are things that we know work, but we don' t know how
to focus those things in this context and we have to learn and as adults,
sometimes it' s hard to say it. It' s necessary.
I' m listening to you, and I' m thinking about the little
value you' re given. In general, there will be people who love
to read and there will be many people who are listening to us, families,
parents, mothers who already have that habit, like reading, but there
are so many other people and in fact, the other day read on twitter
to someone who was against the esnovism of the literature against that. H is
to see there is the same thing also yes, yes, I agree,
but it hurts in my little heart director, because I cannot help but disagree,
because yes, of course I think that if you read you, you
can develop more skills and more attitudes. But there are many people who feel
that there is no need to read, that it is not necessary, that
it is not necessary and that it is very difficult to convince them, because
they can, indeed, continue their whole life without reading. It is true,
yes, truth is a fact or existence, they can exist, of
course, yes, to see is that I believe that in general yes,
that it is true that there are certain. We have people who think that,
especially in the more academic realm, that there are certain things, that
make you as the best person exactly worth and reading it makes you better person
can be silly, just as if it isn' t you can go wrong
a person can be a person, because it is equally unpleasant, but totally
that doesn' t make you go to heaven for having read. But it
' s true that culture gives you a perspective of the world that you wouldn
' t have without culture, and it' s not just reading worth it
is that it usually happens or doesn' t happen that people who read more
or less, that is we' re no longer in a ranking of is
that I don' t read better it doesn' t usually read or that
read for a little bit worth having that rutinilla. They are also the people
who are most interested, because of plays, for music, for not,
for everything at the same time neither, but who have like that anxiety to
know more things. It' s usually people who are more thoughtful or who
get more involved in debates, who do more things. No, and in
fact it' s not that it' s essential, but it' s
that society needs these people and you can tell when a society is uneducated because
things happen and the dynamics of an uneducated society are generated. So in the
end, I know a career, I always say it in a college career,
it doesn' t make you smarter, but there are things that do
make you smarter, more than anything, because they make you debate yourself,
about the concept you have of things. So, I don' t know
how to have three and a half runs that can happen to you. There
are people who have good, I know a résumé that' s spectacular and
they don' t read anything that' s the same. You talk to
them and you say lend a person what cave has come out of, that
is, this thought so and then you talk to someone who doesn' t
have a career, but who does have as that no more cultural interest,
more to learn things, to read, to be informed, of not necessarily
literature, newspapers, magazines, blogs, of I don' t know fashion
worth and that they have that thing and in the end, you don'
t need it at all, but you need it for everything. I mean,
then many times we complain that we live in a country where I know
and politicians don' t know what it is that we vote for those politicians
ourselves or we have to be aware of the responsibility you have. And I
think statements of reading are useless or I don' t know. Or I
don' t care about politics because I don' t care. Or,
of course, that kind of thing really makes things happen after that, and
we complain about those things, that education is worse, or that there are
other countries that are more technologically developed, or what. And it' s
a little bit, because everything' s got to do with it. Then
I don' t know. I understand that there are readers who give rage.
I understand, but to see in general, there are people who are
angry at everything. In general, I mean to see if it does give
for podcast. I' m sure there' s already a podcast called that.
People remain angry and could of all professions, of all kinds of activities
and truth in literature, or people who talk a lot about literature or good
x characters are within that realm. Sometimes they give rage but of course,
please, the book, the book, The book, Yes, sometimes I
think that the problem many times of these things also happens with music. Or
is that the people who present it to you are not the people who would
have to introduce it to you. That interests me because we' re not
good prescribers. Of course not. I think there are people who are very
good at a matter that if they tell you about that matter, they won
' t hook you up. That happens a lot also with teachers and professionals.
There' s a lot. They' re very good at something,
they' re very good philologists are very good, but they don' t
know there' s one thing you can' t teach, which is like
that. There are no people who have ease when communicating or who have as
passion or you notice it I don' t know. There are things that
hook up that you don' t know very well what it is not these
soft skills that are fashionable in companies, is that they are really very important
in things that no one can teach you. But there are people who have
like a magnetism. No, of course, it' s not the same
thing I' m talking about literature. Arturo Pedro at zero green that the
lord there is a lot of literature and it is true he has interesting articles,
that is to say I am not going in there, but it is
not the same thing that this person presents to you maybe it connects with a
type of person. But even if he talks about children' s literature,
because he doesn' t connect with families, for example, he has an
opinion, they are also literal, of course, accurate. So, in
the end, I think it is also very important to influence reading and I
think that usually it has always had in particular literature, it has always followed
a lot of a profile of a very academic person, very lonely, very
rat. It' s just that the concept of a library rat is because
reading has always been associated with people who, if you had that to be,
is that even in movies, the person who reads is an ugly person,
that is, they never put you the one who' s nerd and
reads in a movie. He' s never the popular one, he'
s never the pretty blonde, he' s not the other one wearing hooks,
he' s been put on gadgets. You know it' s the
concept of yes that' s always that concept that you say what a girl
with glasses and gadgets is like couldn' t be beautiful. I don'
t know a few things, but it' s like that profile. Then
people directly associate with that sometimes. I think we need to now that we
have social networks, that we have a lot of ease to reach out to
others. You need people who know, of course they read and they know
and I felt like that perspective more than a little divulgative, but they do
have like that not and that there is a lot that there are many people
as well as music or not. And in the end, people kind of
hook up, just like there' s fashion and lifestyle. There are a
few hundred not clear, therefore, that there are many of the others that
really hook and slowly break. That' s what you' re reading is
no, it' s just no, no, no, but I think
there' s all the bucktockers now. I think they' re called no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had in a mother space three years
ago, I believe four to Sebastian Moure. I think it' s youtuber
' s reading. I mean, I think it' s an explosion of
influence right now. Well your own Instagram account that there are a lot of
profiles that are emerging and very young people. Besides, because the bucktokers are
very young precisely being in Tiktok. Not perhaps the youtubers, like sebastian,
were older. They' re already in a generation. Maybe it' s
already growing there, but those coming from Tiktok, that' s exploding.
Yes, yes, yes, to see it is true that now, as
you have the ease of social networks that in the end you have as more
diversification and more opportunity for people to see you. Yes, that' s
true, but still, I feel that those people always end up reaching the
people who already understand me. Yeah, I don' t know if it
' s exactly like that, or yes, really. Or I' m
sure there' s someone who didn' t read to see a youtuber and
how he likes it, at the end he hooks up, that is.
I believe in that possibility too, but I feel like in the end it
' s a little bit. Like you' re getting feedback, not like
that. I feel it a lot. When I give talks, I have
started to ask what the parents who have their children do and what they do.
I don' t ask systematically, but when the talk comes very few
people. I' m asking because I' m curious. I think that
' s an interesting fact. They' re always teachers when there are few,
they' re high school teachers, elementary school teachers, teachers of course,
I' m giving a talk that' s going to interest you.
They take notes are pending, but I' m giving a talk to people
who already read clear you understand that it will be enriching for them and that
they sure use those techniques for their children And sure that, but really,
those people if I hadn' t given that talk, I mean, I
' ve given them more tools. But if I hadn' t given that
talk, those kids would have been readers, too. I already understand,
you know, it' s breaking like that barrier. I know, for
example, the theme of exercising or meditation. It' s one thing I
think you' ve done. He' s reached a point where he'
s managed to get a little over that barrier. Even people who usually didn
' t used to be very sportsy or very meditative Now you might hear a
meditation podcast. No, well, I feel like I don' t know
if it' s too much already because of the stress. It' s
also another, but well, the body noise in the MRS. Everything.
In fact, this is what you' re looking at. It comes to
my hair. But someone very close told me recently that they had recommended this
you will love. I had recommended him to read to destress himself very well,
and he was considering reading more, reading. He' s really stressed
out. Hey, despite being the stress, now the solution to ours.
But some girls look, so I know what you want me to say for
something you have to start now. But man, I prefer the book.
Apparently, it doesn' t seem like a hand to the s are politicians,
not the ventions or diazepines that I don' t get the name of
how complicated consumption is. It' s very high. I prefer to have
books received. This for family doctors, stop prescribing lexatines and send us novels
would be great, it would be super cool listen to the labras I love,
yes, not me, because it has come to a point where I
am very bad to make. I mean, there are really things I'
m good at in life and there are things I' m terrible at.
And one of the things that I' m terrible about is selling it is
worth it, that is, I transmit it clearly, to me the talks
are great, because I transmit them with all my knowledge and all my love.
But I always say in all the talks and this book you can find
in any library. I mean aunt pays you something library maybe to do for
excitement, not zero. But it really is that it has come to a
point where I say look, it is that you know it fucks, it
is that what I do, obviously, I like to eat is a mania
that I have, but still the project is that it goes so me.
This project actually sounds ugly to say, it' s very uncommercial, but
I didn' t do it to make money, I mean, I,
in reality everything always and I always put it to myself I' m never
going to leave geniuses and even if I stop giving money, I would keep
doing genius things and I could work on something else. No, but for
me it' s like a lot more important than people read and in the
end I don' t care how you know, I don' t care
how, obviously, if they buy it from me, they do me a
favor things as they are, since I have put here the job of informing
me, of documenting me, of professionalizing me. Obviously, if I recommend
anything, don' t go to Amazona to buy it. Not that I
just made you the comment, but in the end there' s a point
not that I say jo is that, because I wish they would prescribe it
and if they prescribed it the doctors who were the library I would already leave
someone. I mean, in the end I don' t know if he
' d wish people wouldn' t get so stressed out, but also get
caught. The routine of saying hears is that at night it relaxes me more,
reading sleep better than in addition, it is real to sleep before,
that is, sarco the screen and after sleeping it is terrible for the dream,
then oysters look. I realized that when I read at night it relaxes
me and I sleep well, so look. If that' s the formula
and that' s the way to encourage full mail reading. Not anymore,
yeah, it' s gonna be or it' s gonna be. We
go eighty years saying that you eat a book and the technique was that you
sleep bull not being stressed, you want to rest, you see, we
' re wrong, we' re wrong. Listen as a bookmaker, you
' re the way you see evolution. There is also the time now for
children' s and young people' s literature. How to comment, because
there is a lot of talk that there is a boom of children' s
and youth' s books and in the media you can see it. Suddenly
there are writers and writers or some brain of this sector that are getting more
and more names. They' re starting to see each other more. And
the phenomenon of what adult writers when they have grown up suddenly pass on to
children and youth as an editorial decision or move on to this sector that you
deserve as you see it. Yeah, let' s see. I think
there really is a sector of children that sells a lot. Okay, for
example, baby books and books for one to five years. These books are
sold a lot because also the book is often understood as an educational tool,
not as leisure. Okay, well, my son needs to take his pacifier
off, I need to take his diaper off. So, like what I
' m looking for is a little bit to find techniques, shapes, ways,
things to help me do that. How can I explain to you what
language he used then? There the story is used a lot. That'
s why there are so many stories of emotional education, so many stories of
taking off your diaper and sleeping the griefs, the losses, the separations,
it goes as a prescription for doctors doctor' s prescription stories, what to
do, what book to choose. If I' ve gone over x things,
then, in that sense, I do think there' s like a
boom, then there' s like a bum, there' s a considerable
drop, when it' s already reading for leisure. Not then is the
time of obligatory reading when all parents buy books, because children are learning to
read and have to read books, pro learn. But then there' s
a certain bassinet, no more because of the leisure thing. But that'
s also so much illustrated album, so much I actually count more than novel.
What is sold, what is much, many promotions of storytelling, of
storytelling, because they are tales as very educational. So, let' s
see, I think it' s positive. On the one hand, it
is very positive that parents resort to storytelling as an educational tool. I mean,
I think it' s super cool that they consider it and give it
that value they really have, because it' s true that that value exists.
But at the same time I am a little sad that you get lost
with the sense of enjoying a book. I' ve learned nothing from this
book, but I' ve had so much fun. Of course it was
a murder book. There was a detective. I mean nothing has been read,
but I don' t know. No, but it' s because
you have me to do this, better person, no, why you have
to teach me this to manage my emotions, that it' s great that
I have books and I turn to them for this. But I think that
sometimes the same, now that we' re in the boom, we should
also try to encourage authors to make books just for the sake of art,
so that the child takes the book and says oyster that I' ve had
fun, not that they don' t have so much sense of morality.
They' re looking for parents to class mothers. Yes, yes, it
is, on the one hand, I' m glad, but on the
other, I' m afraid that, following this trend, we forget the
meaning also of literature, which is to have a good time and that the
older books, more of an older reader. You miss this sense that I
' m reading because I like to read it myself. I' m having
a good time reading, but, well, we have to start with something.
Then start with the book as an education. Well, little by little
we go little by little space, but yes, yes, because besides encouraging
taste for reading, each one enters for something. But I' m sure
you have a little book or some of those books you started with, and
they probably wouldn' t have any morals, or maybe I' d get
out later, but I didn' t mean to. You don' t
remember what your oyster initiation books are. Yeah, that' s true.
There' s a lot of books I' ve liked, but I think
I always have, like, two. There are two that are, like
me or, the ones that I remember with the most. Now that I
' m older. Okay, well, of course, now that I'
m older, I mean, I remember the memories of childhood, that I
remember them as with a lot of affection. One of these today, her
little sister, I' ll tell you why and the other is Matilda de
Rovaldal, the one about you Little sister is because I, when my brother
was born, I was six years old and it' s just that I
had just learned to read as well as more fluid, as alone without help
already And then I, as I liked to read so much and I felt
that books had there was the knowledge of the world, then I was how
I need you to buy me a story so that I know how to be
older, because now I have a greater responsibility and I' m not prepared.
Okay like, I have to prepare myself, I have to study how
this is going to be. And my mother, she' s like a
child. Well, anyway, then he bought me tea and it' s
fermanita or I read it like I' ve never read a book twice.
I' m not one of those people unless it' s the book,
like I like it so much the same. I read it to myself,
but with a lot of time between once and the other, otherwise I'
ll have the good taste and that' s what I have left. I
' ll keep it in the tintry. I think it' s so cute.
It usually stays the same here. I read some fragment, but it
' s a wake- up call. Normally not, and that book I
remember that I read it to myself anyway, I don' t know it
was like I wanted to memorize all the words of that book for me to
be a catalog sister, anyway and then Matilda' s read it to me
a little bit older and I think it was from those books that you empathize
with so much because in the end, I know, well, we repeat
the same before reading either, that is, when I was little, reading
was also not cly in the eyes of other children. I mean you weren
' t popular and you read it wasn' t what to do in the
yard. Then, when I discovered this character, I thought oysters is that
there are other children, although in this school context in which I find myself,
since there is not much reader, I do not finish empathizing in that
sense with anyone. There are other children who also like to read as much
as I do, and it is not that they are scratches without powers.
You know, Matira guy' s a really cool chick No. So the
idea that it gave me as a change of perspective is not like it helped
me feel better about that part of me that didn' t end up very
well understanding me inside that childish universe. Those two are like I don'
t know what came in the moment. It' s just that many times
books have to come in the moment. It' s true, too.
That' s why you have to have a lot of children and rums that
they can choose there and make mistakes too, sure a book that you didn
' t like at all and suddenly you say I hate it. Yeah,
that' s what you learn a lot from, too. You also learn
a lot, in fact, to write as you learn the most is by
reading very good books, obviously, and by reading very bad books so that
you say stripping why I didn' t like it. Then you start to
see. Of course, when I do this, it' s that bad.
I' m writing it and I don' t realize it, but
Ostras looks, when you read it off oysters it gets really bad. I
don' t mean like that, I learn too. Of course, and
this brings me phenomenally to the point that I wasn' t prepared for the
next problem. As a good reader. You' ve already moved on to
the facet of writer Judith telling us, how that process has been your first
novel, tell us, what it' s called where the link was to
buy it in your store, which I' m sure you had. Yes,
yes, tell us the experience of becoming a writer, as it is
a very great experience. It' s an amazing step. The novel is
called secret language and you can find it, evidently, in genines readers com
and good to see is that it was all very sporadic. I' ve
been writing since I liked to read. I always wrote in parallel as I
read or read and wrote small. I also spent my free time, for
I made things up and I never dared to present manuscripts to the sites at
all, because one thing also that happens to you when you read is that
you compare yourself to other people that you have read and of course you,
the Judith of twenty twenty- two, twenty- three years, twenty-
four does not write as well as Rudurera Omerser of forty. I don'
t want to say let' s see, no, no, we'
re not then, of course, the comparisons are odious and I all I
wrote in the end was like Jordanian that it' s not so well either
I don' t know, and in the end this manuscript I had already
written to send it to a contest of planet and youth literature and I sent
it. I said look girl, what I know is worth I Balantón and
sent it. Obviously, I didn' t win. He won a book,
because as a romantic it has nothing to do with the subject matter is
that of course what to say if they were looking for such books. Evidently,
mine wasn' t because it wasn' t such an eye- catching
genre and nothing happened. But of course, when I didn' t win
I said see. Indeed, she was a chusta. And then I thought,
well, not maybe, it wasn' t the time, maybe,
it wasn' t what they were looking for. Maybe, I don'
t know, maybe it' s not the publisher. Maybe not a thousand
things. And after about ten two years I was in my bookstore, which
at that time was still physical and came out in instagram a maybe you know.
No. This is a bit of publicity, a publishing house called the
consensual one, and it' s from Valencia, which is the city.
I' m good, the community is seeing me now and it' s
the consensual one. He had a wolfcat. I have a cat and it
' s black, just like after the spoiled one and I said oyster if
you imagine me publishing the spoiled one, which is like I' m not
aware of you or how it' s very cool not and it has a
black canton like you alone me saying it' s already you know, the
stars are lining up some things in the end and I' m just self
- convincing this is my friend. I' m not giving internal spirits and
they said they were looking for good, that they were opening up manuscript reception
and it was Christmas and I said that Bonico not life has consented to a
black cat. I know ahead and I sent it and also I sent it
a little hater you know it sends and I answered if you won' t
love me not like that, but like look, if you didn' t
like it. Please, I' d appreciate it if you didn' t
ignore the message and tell me why you didn' t take it because sometimes
I feel a lot of frustration and I need to know. Look what you
' re telling me Look, this book, because I know the subject doesn
' t matter, or I don' t know. I mean, anything
Look, check it out because it' s not well written, anything that
helps me get better, because if I don' t send stuff, and
I' m sending something horrible. You know, and I' m not
aware, because no one' s telling me right away. They answered me
calmly that if we do not tell you, because I what way for God
and nothing. Two or three weeks later I was told that they had taken
it, that is, that they were going to publish me and that my
editor was called hope. I mean, I can' t conscience anymore,
I mean, and he spoke to my mother and he leaves her alone this
logic is that, of course, Mom, I want everything there is nothing.
Already, a year and a half that was published goes for the second
edition. It' s pretty good and I' ve been invited to go
to the Madrid Book Fair. What do you say yes, yes and based
on incredible yes, June 15th, fantastic man. Well, I' m
going, yeah, yeah. That' s good, so I' m
very happy because the truth is that and it' s giving me a lot
of joys the book is, yeah, listen and tell a little bit of
the argument so that our audience will open up appetite there. The book is
a written novel. It' s very short, it reads super fast.
It' s written two voices. On the one hand, the voice of
light, which is the grandmother of the protagonist, who is also quite protagonist,
because she has a voice of her own and or Livia, which is
the granddaughter, then we see the youth more or less of light. We
see a little bit of adulthood as well, but especially Olivia' s youth
in parallel with light is worth it, this is like one of the threads
and the other, in fact, of the girl is that Olivia just died
Grandma. The first page is not a spoiler. And then, in Grandma
' s apartment that' s picking up stuff and stuff, there' s
a book that doesn' t know what it says. That' s why
it' s a secret language. And then, throughout the book, apart
from the concerns of adolescence, his first love, the problems in high school,
the grades and so on, he needs to know how that part of
the grandmother he didn' t know, as the most intimate part of woman,
not the facet of grandmother he gave to her. And then he does
several things to try to decipher And in parallel, let' s see that
it' s the part, that part of adolescence, of the yaya that
actually, because you see that the problems are very similar, but in a
totally different context, then you can go looking like one dance and the other
not. And so it' s interesting. He' s got a point
there of love mystery. Family is also very important. Magic' s out
there, too It' s cool. It' s okay. It'
s okay. It' s okay. It says please, you have to
tie up resourceful readers and buy it, because it can be the debut novel
of reading. For example, you see this one next, a literary star
and you will have in your hands this woman' s first novel so do
not lose it, please, and besides, it will come to the cold
of the book, that is, Madrid, and there I will be undeserving,
please, that this is not the case that you are already in Madrid.
I' m sorry, I' m sorry I' m from Madrid.
I can' t help it, but there' s a lot of
fairs. Now they' re doing all the frisis in the book. Now
it' s all over Spain, everywhere there are fairs. It has started
with Saint Jordi in Barcelona. It' s like it doesn' t open
there the season of fairs and you' ve been just as much of a
fair recently you' re putting it through networks and nothing else. Yes,
please, how cool that is to say to the cinema, that is,
when I made it clear I wrote a bookshop that I also love, whether
I print it you know it, but well, that one seems very cool,
because they also do like lots of activities. You have to give me
a lot of involvement in poetry activities and so on. And when they wrote
to me, they told me you came to your booth. I say clear
apology, I started looking at the authors in the Madrid line these days and
I say, Mother of God, people, but it' s amazing.
But there' s one thing. Besides, it makes a lot of illusion
because I have never gone to the fair in Madrid, and I have never
gone to the fair in Barcelona because it is my city, obviously, to
the Dalencia also because it catches me here and as a bookmaker, it has
gone to many little ones, but to the one in Madrid I have never
taken three days that I say girl we go with everything, it sells with
the suitcase of entry, because the fair of the book gives, but well,
it is using audience and closing because it is a doom. It'
s the doom, but well it' s discount there' s always about
ten percent. I think it' s clear. And it also helped you
sleep. So I mean, it' s a case that that pressure is
actually dead. Sure, an investment. You' re not gonna spend it
on therapy. So, first up to therapy you also have to go,
but there are books. They can be substitutes for many other things and some
yes, yes, yes, so you' re going to smoke. Not
a book is good, not cheaper. Ah you can do calculus here.
It' s cheaper, because not the books. In fact, for everything
all the subject, for everything that moves one leg of the table, because
also a small one. Also some, some are very well placed there because
you say that we have not spoken, because it gives for much, but
there are also very bad books and yes, yes, yes, and there
must also be bad books. Of course, we' ve talked about it,
because you said that' s what you really learn from, and I
totally agree. With you reading bad literature, learn a lot. Yeah,
and that' s how you see what you like what you don' t
like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there' s got to be everything,
there' s got to be everything. And also at the book fair
there are things like that, you have to go through and look. Sure,
and it' s wonderful. I was going to Freda The book is
cool because you' re seeing people you didn' t know were still alive.
It' s true. It' s true, because all of a
sudden you find people and you say what' s good or what' s
good for them. I' m glad you want it. It' s
a very good experience and that' s it. Last year it says horrible
heat. I don' t know. This year depends a little bit on
the season, but immense heat waves. So come prepared nothing and pyric and
a good book. One of the bad guys I' d be to fan
you. Yes, yes, exactly. We' re not going to say,
we' re not going to give examples. That everyone who then decides
anyone has ever fanned me with one. For me it may be chance.
It may be chance Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey. What they can ask you for,
what services you are offering, what they can ask you for right now,
in what kind of workshops, what content you offer right now so that
people who listen to us, have it there at hand and when you need
a little person this low for Dan Ayer, because you go to Judith and
remember genre readers, because look right now. I' m doing good.
I do individual counseling for families, because if they have any doubts, above
all they are more concrete doubts. You don' t have Lexia better,
and I' d like to know what kind of books you recommend. Do
a little follow- up to see how those things progress. You can find
the website information about this type of advice. After a little bit of doing
club geniuses Readers, which is also online for families. It' s like
a kind of home reading club and it' s cool because we have a
platform on which every month I recommend different books depending on the level of the
little one I recommend three books each month, one for each level. And
it also provides activities that you can download at home to do the work of
reading comprehension of those books and to be able to play with those books as
family activities to strengthen understanding while spending a little time with them and enjoying reading.
And in this very club of genius readers there is also a forum where
families can ask any kind of questions about readings, about anything else and I,
therefore, answer them and you can do very cool debates and once a
month we do a group counseling. I' ll hook up 45 minutes if
you can ask me all the questions you want. We have a debate and
this month is super cool because there is also one of the authors of one
of the books, because we also talk about the book and we can connect
the children too, because to ask questions to the author. I think it
' s gonna be really cool. That. On the other hand, the
Club de Genios Lectores. There is also information on the web and then more
topic, it is already more institutional topic, I mean, I do workshops
in schools, both for the teaks, be such workshops to encourage the reader,
of animation, to read both for primary children and that how to talk
to teachers or lists of books in order to complete the library on specific topics,
on dinominization of the reading, the library and so on, and in
this same way I also work with libraries, making children' s reading clubs.
They' ve released a super cool one, which is the family reading
club. And then here in a bookstore, in the library of a polégito,
from here to the side that is called wave, and then the kids
come with the parents and we all comment on the book together and we do
as activities of that reflection, we do children debates with adults and it is
created as a very cool environment. So well, hey it' s about
commenting on the chicken pepe Hey look, for example, listen no, but
it' s very nice because we decided it the POLLOPEP to see that the
chicken Pepe has a lot, has an incredible facio. It' s just,
well, that' s what I' m telling you, jo,
he' s a bentcheller, but it' s like, I didn'
t know him until I was a mother. I understood the power of chicken
pepe Yes, yes, yes, yes, total, total, but yes.
And besides, you can learn a lot of vocabulary. It is a
very striking format, that is to say eye, but I don' t
know it' s cool because if you do as activities involving families, not
my last obsession of these, this last band of genius readers, since the
last year, has been to involve adults, teachers and parents a lot,
because in the end, I, at the beginning, was focusing a lot
on children' s activities that I keep doing them, I keep doing the
nicoles when they call me bo and I don' t care, Barcelona,
Valencia, I don' t care, I move, but in Madrid it
hasn' t done any yet. Uh, now, when it' s
in the first book they' re gonna meet you and then it was all
about shooting no, but I used to do it more for kids. And,
obviously, I enjoy these activities very much and I continue to do them.
But this past year I have been focusing a lot on families and teachers,
because I think that without them it has that adult support, it is
very difficult to achieve real results and to involve them in this type of activities,
to generate spaces where there are people of different ages. It is also
very enriching for children to see that they are working with children who are eight
years old. They have four and what expresses to you the four, which
has like much more spontaneity, but has less reading of nonfluency versus the other
no. And make that kind of debate, that kind of feedback. I
think it works very well. It' s very difficult to do, but
it works very well and the result is as much, I' m more
satisfied, but it' s also harder to sell, because people are real
that sometimes it' s normal, we' re all very busy and sometimes
what we expect with the activities is to rest, that is, the more
clearly less stress it' s like total it' s all going there.
But yes, yesterday they reduce that book, reduce stress with these books.
You' ll see how full it is, for eye is a little.
Like I' m gonna think about it, but it' s kind of
true. If you do remember me and you have given fifty- fifty is
truly sponsored. You can imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey,
but I think that I' ll give it to you, I' ll
leave it there fried for you alone no, but it' s kind of
like that. It is true that sometimes poor jo parents come there all day
working and when looking for an activity, they also think a little look,
because I will take advantage, to leave the child here a horita to learn
and such and I will go to make the purchase or then make it clear
when you try to involve them. Sometimes but I stay, I' m
afraid I am poor, but you' re going to watch worse this with
them we' re going to sleep. I don' t see, no,
you' re gonna punch yourself in boxing Don' t stay here and
you' re gonna relax more. It' s really hard. It is
true that we need more humane days. This as a reflection in general,
not to stress us so much, not to arrive dead at the end of
the day and to have real time to be able to employ it in activities.
So, you know they' re not alone. It' s not
that I have to take advantage of these forty- five minutes, that literal,
which is that maybe those forty- five minutes involved in eight hundred other
things, because to exercise maybe you know and it is to stress totally,
because you know friends, this woman does everything so if you need anything related
to literature, advice Council. Comment, doubt suggestion, because you have it
on Instagram, especially available through its generic reader profile, and there you can
find all the information about his project, his book, his novel, and
he tells us about the workshops when he comes to the fair. I'
m sure he tells it there too, truth and nothing, that it'
s been a pleasure to chat with you, which has been very relaxing.
This I hope for people too, that they have learned something, that they
have entertained and are relaxed. Here' s some milk. They' re
all reading it, too, all of a sudden you can imagine. Hey,
hey, it' d be like they take a picture or something and
burn you. I was thinking about being a generation. Well you then travel
on your cell phone, then I' ll stop moving next door, that
is the photo, first I post and then I can flog. It'
s okay to sleep next door and to read that Coreo. It would be
beautiful, eh man, it would be super nice and I don' t
know how it takes away you label Judith and me and say look, I
relaxed him. True, I mean, it would be beautiful. I wish
they would do it a lot, I would share all maneuvers a folder in
highlight only of that, truth, or there are so many things that can
be done. It would really be super pretty. Yeah, well, nothing.
We stay here with ideas. It' s just that we keep creating.
We haven' t just created, Judith, we don' t have
any previous friends that we' re leaving. I' m sure I'
ll talk another time and I hope to see you at the book fair to
see if I' m lucky and agree with you, because I' d
love to see you around here and give you a super hug surrounded by books.
It has to be and very lucky that it goes very well genius readers
and that it goes very well also with your studies, with all the projects
that you are taking out and above all that a lot of literature is generated
around you, that is what you like. Oh. Thank you very much.
That' s a pretty good shot. It' s been a real
pleasure. Thank you very much, friends. We' re leaving. I
hope you enjoyed it. I will, of course, leave all of Judith
' s project information promised in the program notes and we will hear each other
again in a forthcoming episode. Good morning. Mother, wait and please,
listen to them before I go you' re reading. Now that I'
m reading. I' m reading Eva Baltasar' s mammoth. All right,
all right, well, spectacular recommendation coming up. Yeah, all right,
well, Yudit' s recommendation. I' m reading myself. I
ordered Naomiclane. So there' s double recommendation, recommend women. Besides,
cool how cool or cool I love it. I wasn' t really prepared,
promised. We' re leaving We' ll be back. Ask everyone
goodbye. Bye.